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LaserJockany code hosting people around?01:39
mwhudsonyes01:39
LaserJockmwhudson: do you happen to know if a team changes name if that breaks associated bzr branches?01:40
mwhudsonit breaks the urls, yes 01:41
LaserJockbut in Launchpad the urls get updated?01:41
mwhudsonthe branches themselves are fine of course, but i'm guessing that's not what you really mean01:41
mwhudsonLaserJock: yes01:41
LaserJockno, I mean in Launchpad itself01:41
LaserJockI'm not so concerned about people who have existing branches01:41
mwhudsoneverything in launchpad is resilient to name changes, pretty much01:42
mwhudson(it's almost like there's a database with lots of foreign key references behind everything...)01:42
LaserJockwho'da thunk it?!01:43
mwhudsoni think maybe ppa's break if you change team/person name, i can't remember the details01:43
mwhudsonbut branches are certainly fine01:43
LaserJockyeah, PPAs are a bit interesting01:43
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emgentbarry-away: thanks for reply :)03:36
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gnomefreakanyone here yet? i know its early07:27
Hobbseeno07:28
gnomefreaki have a wiki that isnt able to be edited its a */community/* as far as i know its what was named wiki07:29
gnomefreakhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxFAQ07:29
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beunompt, gooooood morning!  Are you here yet?10:06
mptGoooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!10:30
mptGood morning beuno!10:30
wgrantHello mpt.10:30
beunompt, let me know when you can chat for a bit10:31
mptbeuno, any time10:31
beunompt, I'll hunt you down in a minute then  :)10:31
qballmorning mpt 10:36
* qball needs to trick people into translating his app.10:37
persiaqball: Rule #72 from the handbook of sneaky people: never disclose your motives10:38
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qballdamn couldn't you have said that sooner10:44
qballwhere can  I get that book.10:44
mtaylorBjornT: Bug 74449 "Fix Released"... I don't see it on Edge - do I need to do something to register the upstream tracker? 10:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 74449 in malone "Add support for MySql and PHP bugtracker." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7444910:59
mtaylorhaha10:59
mtaylormy email is quicker than ubott10:59
mtaylormy email is quicker than ubottu10:59
BjornTmtaylor: hmm. looks like that bug isn't fixed after all. i'll look into it.11:05
mtaylor:) thanks11:05
thervejamesh: need any more info?11:22
thervejamesh: this is pretty critical for me :/11:22
BjornTmtaylor: it looks like it works if you specify the long version for the url, e.g. http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=2478811:23
BjornTmtaylor: i'll see if we can get the short version work as well.11:23
mtaylorBjornT: aroo? 11:23
mtaylorBjornT: perhaps we're talking about different areas?11:24
mtaylorI was talking about listing bugs.mysql.com as the upstream bug tracker for a project - and it doesn't seem to be in the list... 11:24
mtaylorbut now I'm really interested in what _you_ are talking about :)11:24
BjornTmtaylor: oh :) i thought that you wanted to link to bugs in that bug tracker from launchpad.11:26
mtaylorwell, that too11:26
mtaylorI think I'm starting to understand that there are two concepts here11:27
BjornTmtaylor: ok. so to link bugs, then you need to use the long version for the url for now. the first time you link to such a bug, the bug tracker will be registered automatically11:27
mtaylorgotcha11:27
* siretart waves to mrevell11:28
BjornTmtaylor: but if you want, you can register the bug tracker at https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/+newbugtracker11:28
mrevellHi siretart!11:28
BjornTmtaylor: choose "PHP Project Bugtracker" as the type11:28
siretartI've just read your mail, and though I'd ping you that I'm already here for some time :)11:29
mrevellsiretart: Great. Give me five minutes to get a cup of tea and I'll ping you.11:30
siretartmrevell: no hurry. I'm currently at work and have a meeting in about an hour, but will be available again later11:31
mrevellsiretart: Cool, when's the best time for you to talk?11:34
therveI've changed my email-address in launchpad, and I can't connect anymore11:35
thervelogin fails with "This account cannot be used."11:35
thervedoes anyone have a clue?11:35
mrevellsiretart: Sorry, machine froze, so I'm not sure if you replied.11:38
siretartnot yet :) - was fetching coffee11:38
mrevellheh :)11:39
siretartI should be more available at 13:30 UTC, the meeting is scheduled to end by 13:00 UTC11:39
lifelesstherve: have you validated the new email ?11:40
thervelifeless: indeed11:40
thervelifeless: I have also tried to reset the password11:40
lifelesstherve: and you are logging in with the new email ?11:40
thervelifeless: both fail11:41
lifelesstherve: and you are logging in with the new email ?11:41
thervelifeless: yes11:41
thervelifeless: and with old too11:41
thervelifeless: both fail11:41
lifelessit could be a cookie issue11:41
lifelesscan you clear all launchpad.net cookies from your browser11:41
therveok I try11:41
spivThere's a bug about changing email addresses breaking accounts atm, IIRC>11:42
lifelessalso, what is your lp account name/new email11:42
lifelessspiv: ah, I hadn't seen that. reference?11:42
spivLooking for it now.11:42
thervelifeless: it doesn't seem to work11:43
spivhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/24449911:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 244499 in launchpad "can't login anymore on launchpad after switching several mail addresses" [Critical,In progress] 11:43
thervelooks like it11:44
lifelesstherve: lets see if I can unwedge this for you11:44
thervelifeless: thomas@canonical.com ?11:44
thervelifeless: thanks a lot11:44
lifelessok, curtis has a script according to the page11:45
lifelesstherve: so, there is a script to fix it, but I know not where it is.11:47
lifelesstherve: starting to look11:47
therveI guess curtis is on the other side of the planet :)11:49
lifelessstub: ping11:50
stublifeless: pong (Dodgy ISP - having real trouble maintaining connections to the other irc server)11:50
lifelessbug 24449911:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 244499 in launchpad "can't login anymore on launchpad after switching several mail addresses" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24449911:50
lifelessstub: do you know where the script is, or do I need to duplicate the investigation to fix therve's login11:51
stubNo idea where 'the script' is11:52
stubIt might just look for an account with valid but no preferred email addresses and set one to preferred.11:53
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kletteHi! We're in the process of switching bugtrackers from sf.net, and launchpad is one of the alternatives. My question is this, are there any scripts out there that takes a xml-dump from sf.net and pushes all of the info to launchpad?12:51
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sorenklette: You generally just ask the launchpad guys to do it.12:54
sorenklette: They've got magic "import project from sf.net" stuff they can invoke.12:55
klettesoren: oh, nice :-)12:56
sorenklette: It is. :)12:56
persiaklette: If nobody offers to do it here soon, post a request on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad12:57
klettepersia: will do. It's not decided yet though. The choice is between hosing a trac-instance on our own servers, or let someone else do all the work (launchpad! ;-))12:59
sorenI think you can ask them to do a test-import.12:59
sorenSo that you can see how it works out and such.13:00
thervelifeless: do you have any news? is there something I can do?13:22
lifelesstherve: sorry, its late here, I got distracted by life ;)13:23
geserwhat does "Duplicated ancestry13:23
thervelifeless: no problem :)13:23
lifelessstub: could you poke at therve's account, 22:23 is not a good time to be doing adhoc sql on prd13:24
geserwhat does "Duplicated ancestry" for an "Failed to upload" error mean?  should it be simply retried in a few hours as the package was moved from universe to multiverse?13:24
wgrantgeser: It's a bug for which I forget the number. Just retry after the next publisher.13:32
wgrantgeser: It occurs when a build is started or finished (I forget which) before the first publisher run after an override.13:32
Hobbseegeser: oh, was that what pitti demoted earlier?13:33
geserHobbsee: yes, xmlgraphics-commons13:34
Hobbseegeser: yeah, i suspected it might, when i asked pitti13:35
Hobbseeoh well.13:35
* Hobbsee tries throwing it back at the buildds.13:35
Hobbseehm, it's built now...13:35
geserHobbsee: that's interesting as that's the same build I got the "Failed to upload" mail for13:38
Hobbseecprov: ?13:39
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geseris it possible to recover "failed to upload" builds from the rejected queue?13:39
glatzormpt, how can I link a ppa to a project? I donÄt find the option in the menus13:40
wgrantgeser: I've only seen it done once.13:40
wgrantAnd that was for OOo, IIRC.13:40
wgrantglatzor: I don't believe you can.13:41
mptglatzor, I don't think you can. Can you give an example of the PPA and project you want to link?13:41
glatzorhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translator-tools/13:41
glatzorhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translator-tools-hackers/+archive13:41
mptglatzor, you could include the URL of the PPA in the project description13:43
glatzorfor sure.13:46
mptglatzor, and conversely, you could include the URL of the project in the PPA description13:47
sinzuitherve: ping13:48
thervesinzui: yes13:50
mptglatzor, reported bug 24518313:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245183 in launchpad "Can't easily link a project and its PPA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24518313:50
Hobbseeprojects don't *have* ppas.13:51
sinzuitherve: I was told you needed my assistance. Did you change your launchpad contact address and get locked out?13:51
mptHobbsee, ubuntu-translator-tools is a counterexample to that assertion.13:51
thervesinzui: thanks for the assistance, but stub had managed to make it work13:52
sinzuitherve: fab. stub rocks.13:52
thervesinzui: I think he's creating another bug for the problem13:52
sinzuiok, I'll look for that, I have a code fix, but it has not been released yet.13:53
Hobbseempt: that has it's team of developers having a ppa, where the team of developers happens to be the same as the project itself, no?13:53
glatzorthanks mpt 13:53
thervesinzui: ok great13:53
Hobbseempt: (which afaik, is As Good As It Gets (tm) )13:53
thervesinzui: this is a frustrating problem :)13:54
glatzorHobbsee, you always need a team for a project to handle the access to the main bzr branch13:54
mptHobbsee, the PPA is pretty obviously dedicated to that particular project. It *could* be for multiple projects, but it isn't.13:54
stubsinzui: therve's issue doesn't match the comments in the other bug I saw, so I opened a new bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/24518513:54
ubottustub: Error: This bug is private13:54
sinzuistub: it is the same as 24449913:54
Hobbseeglatzor: i guess that's a point.  i wasn't aware that team creation and project creation happened simultaneously, automatically, though.13:55
sinzuistub: I have code ready for review that fixes the problem.13:55
glatzorHobbsee, It doesn't13:56
stubsinzui: The data bug I saw does not match your comments in bug 24449913:56
glatzorHobbsee, but would perhaps also a good idea13:56
mptProjects vs. teams is still a little awkward in Launchpad, I think13:57
Hobbseeglatzor: i was thinking that - but only if the project chose to use code and or ppa.13:57
stubsinzui: Or did the invalid NEW status cause the emailaddress to not be linked to the account?13:57
mpte.g. I reported a bug yesterday about the teams who expect to be able to file bugs on the team rather than on a particular project13:57
sinzuiTrue, I was negligent in updating the bug with what I found yesterday afternoon. Salgado's fix allowed me to see the deeper bug that affected the two users.13:57
sinzuistub: the way in which the email was created mean it did not an account. that was a workflow issue in the code.13:59
stubok. ta.13:59
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pepHey!14:13
pepI have a situation here... :s14:13
pepWe accidentely handed over a team ownership to a random person on launchpad...14:13
intellectronicapep: whoops. can you please file a question. i'll try to make sure that someone attends to it shortly14:17
pepVery well.14:18
LaibschHi, I wonder about the semantics of the "propose for merging" flag14:21
Laibschwho is supposed to act on that (and how)?14:21
LaibschI am asking in particular about the branches scheduled to be merged into https://code.launchpad.net/~subdownloader-developers/subdownloader/trunk14:22
pepI am actually chatting with JendaVancura right now on Jabber (he can't connect to IRC) and the problem is: what used to be the diy-team is now relatively dead, its projects are abandoned. Now, a new team has set itself up and just took over the projects. So the new team in charge is now this one: https://launchpad.net/~spreadubuntu and this old one:https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-diy-team was accidentally handed over to this person that happened to have diy14:22
pepas its nick: https://launchpad.net/~diy :/ But I'm filing a question.14:22
pepintellectronica: mhh, sorry but where do I ask the question at? I can't ask it concenring a team.... :/14:28
intellectronicapep: see the topic :)14:29
pepright, sorry about that :s :)14:29
mptLaibsch, the owner of the destination branch should accept it or decline it14:29
LaibschI am part of the team that owns the branch14:31
mptLaibsch, or anyone who has permission to change the destination branch (in this case, any member of Subdownloader Developers)14:31
LaibschSo, how am I supposed to act?14:31
LaibschI was the one making the request14:31
LaibschShould I chekc out both branches, push from the obsolete to the new branch and after that delete the obsolete branch?14:32
mptLaibsch, if you already have permission to do the merge, you don't need to propose it, unless you were asking for code review or something like that14:32
LaibschI was unsure how this is supposed to work14:32
mptLaibsch, so merge the source into the destination using bzr, then mark the merge as done14:32
mpt(I'm not sure how you do that, because the page doesn't look the same for me since I don't have the same permissions)14:32
mptabentley can probably tell you in more detail14:33
pepThanks for your help intellectronica, I filed question 38094.14:41
pepwho can delete a project? its driver?15:02
andrea-bspep: only a Launchpad administrator15:02
pepI see.15:02
pepthank you...15:03
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pygihey hey folks16:06
pygito further enhance the bugging I've been doing lately, here's a new semi-started specification for Rosetta :)16:06
pygiany feedback or comments more then welcome16:07
pygihttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/translation-workflow-and-notification-system16:07
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thekornhi, I've got a loggerhead related question: is there some url magic to always show the latest version of a file16:42
bdmurraythekorn: I know the answer to that16:48
bdmurraysomewhere ...16:49
thekornbdmurray, cool :) mind to share your knowledge16:49
bdmurrayI'm trying to find where I hid it. ;)16:50
thekorntake your time16:50
bdmurrayI think its bug 18535316:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 185353 in launchpad-bazaar "loggerhead content urls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18535316:52
seb128hello there16:52
seb128I was wondering which people are listing under the "also notified" category16:53
seb128there is a zillion of those for any ubuntu bug16:53
bdmurrayseb128: those are all people who've subscribed to all ubuntu bug reports16:53
bdmurrayquite a few of them are actually deactivated accounts too16:54
persiaI suspect there's some causality involved between clicking the "receive all ubuntu bug reports" button and deactivating the account.16:54
thekornthis reminds me: I always wanted to write a greasemonkey script to make this subscribers list toggleable16:54
bdmurraypersia: I'd imagine!16:55
seb128thekorn: you can toggle it on launchpad no?16:55
thekornseb128, yes but i want to auto hide them16:56
seb128thekorn: the change is persistant on launchpad no?16:56
seb128ie, if you toggle it, it's toggled for all pages you browse16:57
thekornand to be able to toggle per section ('also notified', 'per duplicate',..)16:57
seb128ah ok16:57
seb128well, that was sort of my complain16:57
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seb128what is the point to have a zillion of "also notified" people listed on every ubuntu bug16:57
thekornI#m mostly intrested in direct subscribers,16:57
seb128mpt: ^ do you know if there is a bug or some discussions about that?16:57
mptseb128, yes there is16:58
thekornI dont care about 'also notified', so I would like to hide this category16:58
seb128thekorn: I expect that's the case for most users16:58
seb128that's also what leads to the "you have to scroll to go to the subscribing option since they are after this list"16:58
seb128and the list is over a screen for any ubuntu bug16:59
seb128mpt: ok good, thanks ;-)16:59
mptseb128, bug 24115017:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 241150 in malone "Structural subscription list has become an unwieldy and irreducable feature of bug pages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24115017:00
mptbut I think once we (a) replace the source package info box with a tooltip, and (b) move the "Subscribe yourself" etc from the bottom of the Subscribers list to the top, you won't care nearly so much17:01
seb128mpt: thank you17:01
seb128well, I'm wondering who cares about the "also notified" list17:02
seb128usually people care about direct subscribers and bug contacts for the component17:02
mptI think few people explicitly care about it. But it may act as a subtle disincentive to adding useless comments to a bug report.17:02
thekornbdmurray, re my loggerhead question, I always thought this has still been implemented, but the links shown there do not work17:03
bdmurrayI care about it explicitly fwiw17:03
seb128why?17:04
seb128what information do you get from knowing that this list of people is subscribed to any ubuntu bug?17:04
bdmurrays/care about/am interested in/17:04
bdmurraythekorn: the linkified one works for me now17:04
thekornbdmurray, ok, it works for me too now, but sometimes get a server error,17:07
thekornbut I was looking for a link to the most recent version of a file17:07
seb128who could I bribe to get bug #229040 on the 2.0 list? ;-)17:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 229040 in malone "debdiff shown as html" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22904017:07
bdmurraythekorn: I think it is possible to increment the revision number such that is much higher than the actual revision and get the latest version of the file17:11
mptseb128, bigjools or cprov for a start17:12
bigjoolsvery unlikely to happen :(17:12
seb128not sure if the bug is hard to fix, but I would suggest to default to text rather than html meanwhile, most of attachements are patches and debdiff and so are texts17:12
seb128or could you special case on the filename? *diff = text?17:13
pepIs there a way to see how many people of my team have subscribed to the list?17:14
cprovseb128: can't you make firefox deal correctly with gzip-patch MIME ?17:14
seb128cprov: that's not gziped, those are just diffs17:15
seb128and I don't want to start gziping diffs no ;-)17:15
seb128cprov: right know launchpad sets debdiff as htmls17:15
cprovseb128: wow, that's not soyuz bug them17:16
cprovseb128: I've misread you bug report, that's in malone.17:16
cprovseb128: there is a similar problem with the debdiff generated by launchpad/soyuz, those are gzip-patch and firefox doesn't like to render them by default.17:17
seb128cprov: it suggests opening those rather?17:17
cprovseb128: yes, I open them with the file-roller, but that's annoyingly slow.17:18
cprovwell, not a blocker, life goes on ...17:19
seb128I noticed that too when opening diff.gz17:19
seb128sometimes there are displayed in the browser and sometime not17:19
seb128I should ping asac (the firefox maintainer) about that ;-)17:19
cprovseb128: yes, when it becomes a 'fix this, pretty please, or someone will die' issue ;) 17:20
seb128lot of bugs are not that bad but annoying17:21
cprovtoday we have to feed the soyuz monster properly so it stops eating uploads from dedicated people ...17:21
seb128the debdiff detected as html means you have to add the diff, wait for the page to reload, go to the page to edit the patch, change the type, and do that for every attachement on every bug you work on17:22
seb128soyuz eating uploads? bad soyuz, no cookie today ;-)17:23
cprovseb128: talk to intellectronica or allenap, see what they can do for you.17:24
seb128cprov: oh btw speaking about soyuz, should I do something special when binaries fail to be uploaded for some reasons?17:24
cprovseb128: no, not today ;)17:24
cprovseb128: depends how they failed 17:24
seb128ok, because I got a mail about the amd64 hardy pidgin build which failed to be uploaded today17:24
seb128"DETAIL:  Process 14933 waits for ShareLock on transaction 145257993; blocked by process 14480.17:25
seb128Process 14480 waits for ExclusiveLock on tuple (478,2) of relation 16634 of database 16409; blocked by process 14933.17:25
seb128)"17:25
seb128cprov: ^17:25
cprovseb128: does it weirdly mention ' ShareLock blah bla' ?17:25
cprovseb128: afff17:25
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cprovseb128: I've already reprocessed all failed binaries from today, check LP they should be published already.17:26
seb128cprov: yes, some people mentioned that they tried the update so I figured that somebody fixed it, I was just wondering if I should ping somebody in such cases or if you guys are automatically notified17:27
seb128cprov: thanks for fixing ;-)17:27
cprovseb128: ping me (as usual) I will help you.17:27
seb128alright17:27
seb128ok, I think that's enough launchpad bugs chatting for today, I'll go back to work for a bit and call it a day ;-)17:28
cprovseb128: and yes, my inbox gets stuffed with failure-notifications too.17:28
cprovseb128: good, seya, then.17:28
* seb128 hugs cprov for the good job he's doing on soyuz17:28
* cprov hugs seb128 too17:29
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allenapseb128: bug 229040 should be quite easy to fix; I'll talk to BjornT about it.17:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 229040 in malone "debdiff shown as html" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22904017:40
seb128allenap: thank you17:42
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pepHi, is there an easy way to send an email or message to all members of a launchpad team if the team does not have a mailing list? (being the owner of the team...)18:08
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ScottKIs 30 minutes long enough to wait to assume that if LP doesn't know about my upload, soyuz has eaten it somehow?18:40
cprovScottK: kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu19_source.changes ?18:43
ScottKYes18:43
cprovScottK: eaten, please, upload again.18:43
ScottKThanks.18:43
ScottKcprov: Done.18:44
ScottKcprov: That one made it.  Thanks again.  What happened?18:46
cprovScottK: we having several scripts trying to update the same information at the same time, so they conflict very often and die.18:51
ScottKAh.  Thanks.18:51
cprovScottK: it will be fixed in 2 hours, don't lose your faith in soyuz ;)18:51
ScottKOK.  I won't.  It's generally pretty reliable.18:52
ScottKIt appears no ia64 buildd's are currently running for Intrepid.  Can you look into that here or should I go to #canonical-sysadmin?18:53
ScottKNevermind.18:54
ScottKLooks like it just took longer to wake up.18:54
Rinchen>>> LP Team Meeting in #launchpad-meeting in 2 minutes.18:57
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popeyany news on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/launchpad-users/2008-July/003896.html ?20:48
popeywe have a user trying to check in changes and they are getting the "This account cannot be used" error message20:49
salgadopopey, will be fixed in a couple hours20:50
matsubarapopey, the fix is in the pqm queue20:50
popeythanks20:51
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CWiiOh!22:09
CWiiWhen 1800UTC22:09
CWiiWhen is* :P22:09
geserCWii: it was over 3 hours ago, see the output of "date -u": Thu Jul  3 21:35:23 UTC 200822:35
CWiiYeah.22:35
CWiiI figured that out awhile ago :P22:35
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