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DaveKongso I came to the conclusion that the way to make my network work on my laptop was to switch the cat5 cable for a cat5e I ordered one it arrived and guess what? it works!00:06
DaveKongwhy... I will never know00:07
Zeededlol00:10
Shaba1how do I end a 'man' page in a terminal window?00:35
zoredacheusually hit q00:36
zoredachepress 'h' to get a list of the keyboard shortcuts'00:36
proprietarysuckswhere should I be putting the extracted files from a mouse theme, to have it show up on the list?00:42
arf`proprietarysucks: perhaps in "~/.icons/" or "/usr/share/icons/" ?00:48
proprietarysucksthe mouse theme goes in the icons directory?00:53
proprietarysucksyes the answer is yes01:04
proprietarysucksweird but true01:04
proprietarysucksbbl01:04
Shaba1hey how does one how to stop nm-applet from starting and asking for a password every time01:05
ZeededShabal01:10
Zeeded(Almost positive) One of your Auto-Start app's needs a password.01:10
ZeededSo it prompts you for a passwoor01:11
Zeededpassword*01:11
Shaba1I know its in etc/xdg/autostart01:12
ZeededThen you would have to stop that app from auto-starting01:14
ZeededApplications ---> Settings ---> Settings Manager ---> Autostarted Apps01:14
Shaba1yeah but then I have to enter my wep key every time01:16
Shaba1which is just as bad01:16
Shaba1what is the equivalent of synaptic package manager in xubuntu?01:53
Shaba1I need to add a repository01:53
Shaba1never mind found it01:54
hawthoernehow do i change my mouse cursor02:57
TheSheephawthoerne: settings->setting manager->mouse03:00
hawthoernethanks03:00
hawthoernehow do i install an xfce theme i got off the internet?03:00
TheSheepunpack it to .themes directory in your home directory (create it if it doesn't exist yet)03:01
hawthoernethanks a lot03:02
sponixLatest nvidia drivers from Ubuntu Hardy Installed --> 6500SE onboard, movie playback isn't smooth, anything I can do to help ?03:49
XacarithShot in the dark here. Does any one have pidgin 2.4.2 running?04:29
sponixhow about 2.4.1 ?04:35
sponixhow about 2.4.1 ?04:35
Xacarithwell icq stopped working and the message I got told me to update pidgin04:42
PsynoKhi0same04:45
DrLameHai04:45
pepe_i need help on how to play a dvd movie plz04:45
PsynoKhi0since yesterday04:45
DrLameYou guys are here for the xUbuntu for original xbox?04:45
DrLame=/04:46
PsynoKhi0pepe_: do you have VLC?04:47
XacarithAnd heck if I can ever install stuff like other linux users...04:47
pepe_no04:47
PsynoKhi0try it04:48
pepe_allight04:48
PsynoKhi0this column of lighter pixels is starting to piss me off04:49
PsynoKhi0anyone else getting lighter pixels on the right hand side of their lcd screen?04:52
zoredachenot I04:52
cody-somervilleNo... that seems like a hardware issue to me04:54
DrLame... anyone know anything about Xubuntu ports for xbox?...04:55
PsynoKhi0cody-somerville: it's the very last column doing this, and only on the desktop... I have conky set up as an autostarted app, with own transparent window and there is a similar glitch as it fires up after logging in05:00
risckysilly question for all... anyone have a good resource for using scp? im trying to move a remote file from host a to host b keeping it all "in the cloud"... and my destination username keeps tripping up the source machine05:00
DrLameWhy am I getting the silent treatment? o.O05:01
cody-somervilleDrLame, You aren't getting the silent treatment05:01
cody-somerville:)05:01
DrLamelol, is it just that no one really knows what I'm talking about?05:02
cody-somervilleProbably. I certainly don't know much about Xubuntu ports for xbox and I'm the project lead ;]05:04
cody-somervilleHowever, a quick google search for "xubuntu xbox" returned this: http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu05:04
DrLameYeah, I'm looking at that right now05:04
DrLamexubuntu.org doesn't mention anything about the live cd working on xbox tho05:05
DrLameThe last version number I can find on xubuntu for xbox seems to be Breezy Badger 5.10....05:08
DrLameWere you able to go to terminal and do "sudo apt-get install wine" in 5.10?05:11
DrLameoooOOOooo05:15
DrLameThis is Xubuntu, isn't it? I think what I'm looking for is xUbuntu....05:15
DrLamewhich seems strange to me that they're different things05:15
PsynoKhi0hmm the lighter pixels actually affect the wallpaper only as far as I can see... weird05:19
PsynoKhi0guess the pic was messed up and I never noticed05:23
Barbanegrawhats up05:33
Barbanegrai have a lot of problems with my borwsere05:33
Barbanegrabrowser05:33
Claw6how to browse windows networks with xubuntu ?05:58
Claw6how to browse windows networks with xubuntu ?06:03
zoredachefusesmb seems to be the most popular tool06:05
zoredacheClaw6: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb06:05
Claw6seems not working06:16
Claw6when using pyneighborhood im getting error : unable to mount06:16
deadlysniper712could I get some help or advice06:33
siggjenprobably not unless you state what you need help or advice for06:36
Claw6well ive done my problem :)06:36
Claw6thx anyway06:36
Claw6works now with pyNBH06:36
siggjen(:06:37
deadlysniper712well I am running xubuntu since ubuntu is to tough on my system06:41
deadlysniper712I just need help getting my ATI drives to work properly06:41
dsmith_deadlysniper712: envy06:44
deadlysniper712so I guess i cant get help from here06:47
owen1shutting down my vaio's lid keeps it on instead of hibernate (usually). any ideas?06:50
dsmith_deadlysniper712: ?06:51
dsmith_you asked about help with ATI drivers..06:51
dsmith_and I gave you a package name 'envy'06:51
dsmith_!envy06:51
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.06:51
dsmith_!envyng06:51
dsmith_!envyng-gtk06:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about envyng-gtk06:52
dsmith_hmmm06:52
dsmith_envy handles your video drivers for you06:52
dsmith_I have had great work with it06:52
deadlysniper712so use synaptic to get it06:53
deadlysniper712!envy06:53
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.06:53
dsmith_yea06:53
dsmith_its in the repos06:53
deadlysniper712ok06:53
dsmith_what ait card or chipset are you using/06:53
dsmith_*ati06:53
deadlysniper712idk06:54
deadlysniper712intel06:54
deadlysniper712i have a Radeon 9000 FireGL06:54
dsmith_envy should work on that06:55
deadlysniper712GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hardware06:55
deadlysniper712A collection of GUI based ALSA utilities for specific sound hardware:06:55
deadlysniper712 echomixer - control tool for Echoaudio soundcards06:55
deadlysniper712 envy24control - control tool for Envy24 (ice1712) based soundcards06:55
deadlysniper712 hdspconf - GUI program to control the Hammerfall HDSP Alsa Settings.06:55
deadlysniper712 hdspmixer - tool to control the advanced routing features of the06:55
deadlysniper712             RME Hammerfall DSP.06:56
deadlysniper712 rmedigicontrol - control tool for RME Digi32 and RME Digi96 soundcards06:56
deadlysniper712this what I got06:56
deadlysniper712alsa tools gui06:56
batcoder-7hmm07:01
batcoder-7i wonder if i should use xubuntu07:01
batcoder-7how much ram does it need anyone here know ?07:01
Claw6i have 51207:02
batcoder-7yes ia m just ucrious how much kernel +x+xfce uses here ?07:03
Claw6well why should you waste ram ?07:04
dsmith_deadlysniper712: ??07:04
dsmith_xubuntu is nice on very low end machines07:04
dsmith_xubuntu will install on 128MB??07:05
batcoder-7i was just looking for a estimate or or number of how much ram it uses07:05
batcoder-7i mean how much more does it use then fluxbox ?07:05
dsmith_not sure07:06
dsmith_i dont care for flux07:06
dsmith_but thats me07:07
batcoder-7gmmm07:07
batcoder-7does ubuntu have stuff to do wifi tc more easily ?07:08
batcoder-7i spent so much time setting up a debian with wifi now take to mind it was a very difficult wifi card to setup but damn07:08
owen1dsmith: try debian, or use xubuntu alternate cd to get lean xubuntu.07:14
owen1dsmith: try debian, or use xubuntu alternate cd to get lean xubuntu.08:17
owen1shutting down my vaio's lid keeps it on instead of hibernate (usually). any ideas?08:17
n3urogodhey all...I have somehow lost my xubuntu menu in the top left...can anyone give me a tip on adding it back in? I have tried adding the xfce menu, which both isn't the right one and doesn't work anyways....10:04
n3urogodwoah!!! please people, one at a time....10:07
n3urogod:P10:07
n3urogodwtf...i just upgraded from gutsy to hardy and in the process it has installed gnome instead of xfce?????10:54
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darcywhat do I do when my Add/Remove Applications seems to freeze and take forever to install a program. I left it overnight and had to shut down the computer just to close it out. Now, it is still doing it.14:19
shane__anyone have any idea why add remove would freeze or apear so,mabey could it be internet slow14:35
gynterkHow to set Catalyst Control Center display order17:15
TheSheepgynterk: what's that?17:15
gynterknevermind17:16
gaurdroI don't know,  have you tried searching Ati's website?17:20
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houbysofthi. I've got a question : is the new pidgin in the depositories?? because I have pidgin 2.2.1, and when I check for updates, or if I do "sudo apt-get install pidgin" it tells me that I have the latest version...18:15
zoredacheaccourding to (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/pidgin) you should be seeing 2.4.1 for hardy18:18
houbysoftah. I've got gutsy... so I can't have the new pidgin before I upgrade to hardy?18:32
zoredacheit is linux...  You can have anything, if you are willing to work hard to get it.  But if are asking if you can get it easily from repository then answer is probably no18:33
zoredacheit you know how to build things from source you could get the hardy source package and backport it to gutsy...  It is probably to a simple process though18:34
houbysoftok I'll try18:34
zoredacheis there some reason why you aren't going to hardy?18:34
houbysoftgot an old computer and the update could take 3 years18:35
zoredacheit seems likely that the update will a lot easier then trying to backport18:35
houbysoftmaybe.. I'm downloading the source to pidgin 2.4.1, so I'll try to compile it, then I'll update maybe...18:37
houbysoftbut you know now the tar.gz is downloading at 60 KB/sec... I imagine that the update is big...18:38
zoredacheso start it in the evening and let it run over night18:38
houbysoftmy parents won't permit to leave the computer on all night :P18:39
zoredacheyes, it probably will be about 300-500mb18:39
houbysofthuh18:39
zoredachethe size of the gutsy->hardy update18:39
BuLLen-is it possible to boot xubuntu from a floppy and then like a liveCD?19:55
houbysoftfloppy?19:56
houbysofthow you want to fit 700 MB on a floppy?19:57
zoredachewhat do you mean precisly when you say 'like a livecd'?19:57
houbysoftah w8 maybe I understand now, you want to boot from a floppy and then the floppy to boot the CD?19:57
BuLLen-like you do whit the live CD19:58
BuLLen-yeah, I cant boot from USB or CD. So the only way is floppy19:58
houbysoftI think there are some floppies that can do this, maybe try to google it19:58
BuLLen-Okay19:59
zoredacheI believe it is possible, but it probably isn't easy, or something that is standard19:59
BuLLen-And it says that I need 1,5 GB free space on HDD. Can I use a USB to install it to?19:59
zoredacheBuLLen-: if you can't boot from a USB then installing to a USB doesn't seem like it will do much for you20:00
zoredachebut yes, it is possible to install to a usb connected drive20:00
BuLLen-Okay20:00
houbysoftmaybe this will help you, found it on google : http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5034420:01
zoredache!install | BuLLen-20:01
ubottuBuLLen-: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate20:01
arf`BuLLen-: smart boot manager can do what you want20:02
zoredachecheck out those for some ideas20:02
arf`BuLLen-: ie boot on floppy, and from here boot on a liveCD20:02
BuLLen-Okay20:02
arf`BuLLen-: smart boot manager (smb) can be found easily on the web20:02
arf`BuLLen-: sbm20:03
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ZeededI lol'd again21:01
EhPrettyEasyWhy so?21:01
ZeededBecause Scrippt Kiddies come in here and try to down the channel21:05
Zeededand they fail21:05
Zeededand its kinda funny21:05
cody-somervilleinteresting.21:11
TheSheepwe know it sucks ;)21:12
cody-somerville:O21:13
Zeededlol21:19
deadlysniper712could I get some help22:08
cody-somervilleAsk your question22:09
cody-somerville:)22:09
deadlysniper712I am pretty sure that I have download compiz and I cant find it anywhere22:09
deadlysniper712on my system22:10
TheSheep!compiz22:10
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion22:10
deadlysniper712thank you22:11
wrtpeepsdid anyones menu icons change in the update?22:23
cody-somervillewrtpeeps, which update?22:29
TheSheepwrtpeeps: which icon theme?22:29
TheSheepIbelieve the Tangerine icon theme, that used to inherit from Tango, now inherits from gnome only, so the icons are different (and completely unfitting, if you ask me)22:29
TheSheepit's easy to fix though22:30
yemrotif someone has a minuet...22:32
TheSheep!ask22:32
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)22:32
wrtpeepsTheSheep: the default one22:33
yemrotI have in the /media folder, several folders from umnounts gone bad. How do I remove these dead folders as I can't seem to get rid of them.22:33
TheSheepwrtpeeps: 4222:33
wrtpeepsthese look like gnome icons in my menu22:34
TheSheepyemrot: you can start thunar as root and delete them, but they don't do any harm22:34
wrtpeepslike, I have a red/white "ring" for the help thing22:34
TheSheepwrtpeeps: and joystick for games?22:34
wrtpeepsyup22:35
wrtpeepsits the tango theme apparently22:35
TheSheepthat's gnome icon theme22:35
wrtpeepsand these new icons look god awful22:35
wrtpeepssettings>user interface>icon theme says i have Tango enabled22:35
deadlysniper712I need help with getting compiz installed and then finding it on my system22:36
TheSheepwrtpeeps: http://people.freedesktop.org/~jimmac/icons/ <-- these?22:36
wrtpeepsthats the ones22:36
TheSheepthey don't look that bad :/22:37
TheSheepmake sure you have tango-icon-theme installed22:37
TheSheepand possibly tango-icon-theme-extras22:37
ProwelerHey, I just installed xubuntu from an alternate live cd and mounted my second hard-drive!22:37
wrtpeepswonder why it changed22:37
ProwelerJust got one qeustion left, how the hell do I get out of the x-windows and activate the command prompt?22:38
TheSheepwrtpeeps: Oxygen is uglier ;)22:38
TheSheepProweler: alt+ctrl+f122:38
Prowelerdoh! Cheers.22:38
wrtpeeps:)22:38
TheSheepProweler: and go back with alt+ctrl+f722:38
wrtpeepsi'll get used to them22:38
TheSheepwrtpeeps: it should use the tango ones, if it doesn't it's a bug22:38
wrtpeepsthe menu icons arent changing22:39
wrtpeepsno matter what set i choose22:39
wrtpeeps:/22:39
yemrotTheSheep: Thanks that worked. This root thing you speak of, seems pretty powerful, I wonder if it will catch on. Thanks again.22:39
wrtpeepsoh they did22:39
wrtpeepsright click menu did22:39
wrtpeepsthe menu on the bar didnt22:39
wrtpeepsmust have to restart the bars or something for that22:40
TheSheepno idea22:40
yemrot;-)22:42
edvardhey22:58
j1mchi edvard22:58
edvardhey j1mc23:16
edvardkinda quiet here23:16
edvardi heard about the change in leadership with the xubuntu clan and decided to drop in23:17
edvardsay congrats to cody, etc.23:17
edvardmaybe pitch in 2 cents23:18
edvardthe usual23:18
edvardif I were to make a wish list...23:25
edvardgo back to xscreensaver instead of gnome-screensaver23:26
edvard(works better)23:26
edvardgo back to gxine or xfmedia23:26
edvardTotem annoyed me from the beginning23:27
edvardmake mouse cursor changing actually work23:27
edvardthat kind of thing23:28
TheSheepedvard: out of curiosity, what's exactly wrong with the apps you mentioned?23:31
edvardgnome-screensaver, besides carrying gnome baggage, doesn't allow the control that xscreensaver does23:32
edvard(remember, these are just my opinions, grain of salt not included...)23:32
TheSheepedvard: what control do you need exactly?23:32
edvardi can't remember at the moment23:33
TheSheepthat's kind of fuzzy23:33
edvardbut gnome screensaver just lets you pick a screensaver and that's it23:33
edvardxscreensaver has a lot more options23:33
TheSheepmore != better23:33
TheSheepotherwise we would use kde23:33
edvardtrue23:33
edvardugh23:33
edvardbut it allows some configurability that I found useful while remaining slim23:34
TheSheepedvard: be sure to mention it when you remember23:34
TheSheepedvard: gnome screensaver might also have it, just hidden, or it might be provided by the power manager or osme other part23:35
edvardon Xubuntu 7.10 I couldn't get screensavers to even work until I installed xscreensaver and removed the gnome23:35
edvardnope, xscreensaver is not there23:35
edvardperiod23:35
edvardyah my memory is tricky sometimes :)23:35
TheSheepwhat about totem?23:35
edvardI guess i should spare some bile on totem... it's not all that bad23:36
edvardbut I always found it weird to play music with a "movie player"23:36
TheSheepfor me the most annoying thing is that I cannot manually load subtitles from a file23:36
edvardand the lack of a "stop" button may be a great exercise in frugality, but i find it distracting23:37
edvardmm23:37
TheSheepand that's about all, it even recently played movies (badly encoded, I admit) that mplayer couldn't handle23:37
edvardwow23:37
edvardnice23:37
TheSheepsome hdtv23:37
edvardmaybe i'll just install a nice "media player" to keep the categories psychologically separated23:38
edvardstill, as a default, it's a little misleading calling it a "movie player" when folks would be hunting down a music player23:39
edvardand about mouse theme changing...23:39
TheSheepdoesn't xubuntu come with a separate music player? can't remember...23:39
edvardnope, just totem23:39
edvard8.04, that is23:40
edvardthe previous versions used gxine23:40
edvardwhich i found to be ok for general use23:40
TheSheepwell, ubuntu comes with Rhythmbox, so it's really just "movie player" for them, and it's the same package...23:40
edvardmm23:40
TheSheepI only have bad experiences with gxine, both stability-wise and in terms of how broken things it could handle23:41
edvardRhythmbox = Totem?23:41
TheSheepI guess you could have two separate .desktop items, and use "onlyshowin"23:41
TheSheepedvard: no, rhythmbox is itunes-like music player and manager23:41
edvardhm. or "musicplayer.desktop" and "movieplayer.desktop"23:42
edvardoh23:42
edvardyou said it was the same package23:42
TheSheepno23:42
TheSheepI just meant that renaming totem to 'media player' in menu would also affect ubuntu and wouldn't make sense for them23:43
edvardoh, right23:43
edvardok23:43
edvardi was talking about Xubuntu.23:43
edvardsince I heard Cody was taking suggestions23:43
edvardthought I'd hash them through a few folks before I fired off an email23:44
TheSheepit's the same package, so...23:44
edvardright23:44
TheSheepbut you could add a separate menu entry that would only show in xubuntu, and make the ubuntu menu entry not show...23:44
TheSheepI guess23:44
edvardor just put the extra one in the xubuntu distro only23:45
TheSheepit's kinda funny, because the menu system for new xfce is not even written yet...23:45
edvard?23:45
TheSheepadthat would require a separate package23:45
edvardxfce is getting a new menu?23:45
TheSheepedvard: yes, with sane menu editor and drag and drop and stuff23:45
edvardoh23:45
edvardwow23:45
TheSheepjust nobody started with it yet ;)23:45
edvardi thought the old menu was alright, but hey on to the future, right?23:46
edvardever tried to change mouse cursors on xubuntu?23:46
TheSheepedvard: also, desktop will use thunar, so you will have single click and rubberband selection, etc.23:46
edvardright23:46
edvardthunar is good23:46
edvardcould do with an extra file view though, like a two-pane file manager with tree view on the side.23:47
edvardubuntu handles cursor changes beautifully23:48
TheSheepxubuntu requires logging out23:48
edvardeven that doesn't change it totally though23:48
TheSheepoh?23:48
TheSheepworks for me23:48
edvardyeah23:48
edvardweird23:48
TheSheepedvard: do you have the number of bug report for this?23:49
* edvard slaps forehead23:49
yemrotouch23:49
edvardi never thought to dig up a bug report!23:49
TheSheepthat's generally the first step when reporting problems...23:49
TheSheepit even sometimes contains workarounds or explanations23:50
edvardsee, /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme which is a symlink to your actual theme file23:50
yemrothas anyone used the newer iPod shuffle with gtkpod it doesn't seem to have the correct model listed for the 2 gigs or should I just bypass the initialize the ipod with gtkpod23:50
edvardsomewhere in that chain, xfce makes the changes, but not all components pay attention23:51
edvardI had different cursors depending on when I was hovering synaptic, thunar, or firefox23:51
TheSheepedvard: you will always have different cursor for synaptic23:52
TheSheepedvard: it's run by different user23:52
edvardreally?23:52
edvardoh. that's the problem23:52
edvardok23:52
edvardmy current them is in ~/.icons23:52
TheSheepyou also have different gtk and icon themes for it23:52
edvardwhich makes it non-global, right?23:52
TheSheepyeah23:53
edvardgot it23:53
TheSheepnot sure about firefox though23:53
edvardfixed that.23:53
edvardapparently the mozilla code asks for a x-cursor hash instead of the cursor name23:53
edvardso you make a symlink that points to the name of the cursor instead23:54
edvardold mozilla cursor trick. almost every cursor theme has it.23:54
TheSheepif you described it in the bug report, it could be used in new xubuntu maybe23:55
TheSheepdevelopers generally don't have time to chat on IRC23:55
edvardnaw, that's a cursor theme bug, not a xubuntu bug23:55
edvardright, like i said i just wanted to chew the fat on some ideas before i sent an email to Cody23:56
edvard... and a trip through the bug reports would be a good idea too23:56
edvard;)23:56
TheSheepyeah, generally, pointing to reported problems with apps makes your rants much more professional23:56
edvard:D23:57
edvardoh was i ranting?23:57
edvardapologies all around...23:57
TheSheepI was speaking in general terms23:57
edvardok23:57
TheSheepI remember one discussion about a reason to use xscreensaver instead of gnome-screensaver, and it turned out that the problem wasn't even reported, and was fixed very soon after the report23:59
edvardso i'm thinking installing the cursors to /usr/share/icons and chowning it to root would do the trick for synaptic eh? (and gdm too, as I recall)23:59
edvardyeah my screensaver function was broken in 7.1023:59
TheSheepedvard: yes23:59

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