[03:49] <werwolf> hellooo
[03:50] <werwolf> how can i costumize the ThinClient-chrootm with lts.con it won't be recognizef  ?
[04:45] <mib_btjb1m> so, Im googling around and finding mixed response. Wondered if I could get some help here. I started with ubuntu, then installed the edubuntu add-on. How would I go about going back to plain ubuntu?
[04:46] <mib_btjb1m> this is of course hardy heron
[08:51] <Nubae> ogra: are u there, Don't mean to hassle you, was just wondering if the lpia (atom) netbook-remix is ready?
[11:20] <stgraber> ogra: Can you please upload: http://www.stgraber.org/download/ubuntu/italc/
[11:20] <ogra> will do
[11:21] <stgraber> fixes the x11vnc issue once and for all and some other things. It's basically exactly what I'd like as 1.0.9 upstream :)
[11:21] <ogra> which we'll surely get soon i bet :)
[11:22] <stgraber> I hope so, Tobias just needs to merge some of my patches and release it
[14:48] <Nubae> ogra: so I took a look at the classmate, and it came pre-installed with ubuntu 7.10!
[14:49] <ogra> ugh
[14:49] <ogra> how big is the disk ?
[14:49] <Nubae> think 4 gigs
[14:49] <Nubae> like the asus eeepc
[14:50] <ogra> ah, k
[14:50] <ogra> the noral cmpc has only two
[14:50] <ogra> so if you are lucky you dont have the ompressed install
[14:50] <Nubae> it was really quite fast
[14:50] <Nubae> yeah no its a regular ubuntu install
[14:50] <Nubae> straight from live cd
[14:50] <ogra> the 7.10 image i did wasnt for distribution, but it seems some OEMs didnt respect that
[14:51] <ogra> (which they are free to do with a free image ... but will get users into troule)
[14:51] <Nubae> Iĺl have a closer look this evening at what image it is exactlz
[14:51] <ogra> well, if it was installed from libeCD all should be fine
[14:51] <Nubae> well, this is a test pc of course....
[14:51] <ogra> thats ok on the 4G
[14:52] <Nubae> but its not got any atom based stuff... so I guess installing your image would be the next step right?
[14:52] <Nubae> that way we can compare speed/cpu/ram usage
[14:52] <ogra> right, as soon as i'm done (no ETA, still fiddling)
[14:53] <Nubae> hehe ok, I wont ask again, I know its annoying for you
[17:31] <Pierre-Yann> Hi. Have you tried to use hostnames ( i.e. "[client1]") instead of mac addresses to create thin client special sections in lts.conf ? Can't get it working.
[17:34] <ogra> you need a proper dns server setup in the client network for that ... i'd go with MAC adresses instead of putting that maintenance overhead on me
[17:38] <Pierre-Yann> Oh. I thought it was sufficient to declare host names in the local server /etc/hosts file and /etc/dhcpd.conf...
[17:38] <Pierre-Yann> I mean /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[17:39] <ogra> you could try to copy the hosts file inot the chroot
[17:40] <Pierre-Yann> No, then it would be a real overhead to update the chroot every time i change an ip address...
[17:52] <ogra> well, either that or a DNS server :)
[17:53] <ogra> or stick to MACs ... thats why we did that by default, its a pain to maintain a DNS server and all other parts of ltsp were developed with that in mind ...
[17:54] <ogra> but indeed you *can* use one if you want :)
[18:12] <Pierre-Yann> Well, i thought it would be easier to use hostnames: say you want to install a local printer on a thin client: cups needs an ip address, so you assign it with dhcp. Then back again to mac address with lts.conf. Conclusion: to get a local printer you need to modify at least 3 files (dhcpd.conf, lts.conf, cupsd stuff) using 2 different notations (mac address and ip address). Not really convenient.
[18:16] <Pierre-Yann> I forgot: i'm supposed to administer 23 Hardy/ltsp servers for a total of approx 450 thin clients. Anything simplifying this task would be appreciated...
[18:17] <stgraber> you can have dhcpd automatically create DNS records
[18:18] <Pierre-Yann> ok, as long as i can use those hostnames in lts.conf...
[18:21] <stgraber> then you'll need to have your DHCP server send that DNS server to the client and they will be able to resolve : clientXYZ.your.lan.com and you'll be able to use that in lts.conf
[18:21] <stgraber> (you'll need to google that a bit ...)
[18:22] <Pierre-Yann> Ok, i'm gonna google on this. Thx.
[18:23] <Pierre-Yann> Not related: thin client manager: works only for first login session on a thin client. Once user logs out (back to ldm screen), x11vnc gently dies in the thin client. Any fix ?
[18:29] <stgraber> italc is the new classroom manager since 8.04, we don't maintain tcm anymore
[18:38] <ogra> Pierre-Yann, tcm's vnc part never really worked right, if anyone touches that app again my proposal is to drop the tab completely ... use italc,.. its the future :)
[18:41] <ogra> stgraber, uploaded now btw, sorry for the delay, had a busy day
[18:42] <stgraber> ogra: cool, np
[18:43] <stgraber> I just upgraded to Intrepid, relatively stable so far
[18:43] <stgraber> and I have my sd card reader working !!! :)
[18:43] <ogra> well, mdz had a rough ride :)
[18:43] <ogra> (as you can see on -devel-discuss)
[18:43] <stgraber> well, I didn't really upgraded :), I saved my /home and reinstalled
[18:43] <stgraber> yep, I saw his mail
[18:44] <ogra> i still have to stick with hardy until the sprint :/
[18:44] <stgraber> I usually reinstall my lappy with Alpha-1 then upgrade all the time until the Alpha-1 of the next release :)
[18:47] <stgraber> nvidia/fglrx drivers are broken, I had to patch my fglrx by hand and restart dkms. Other than that, the intel wireless firmwares were missing and I had to install linux-restricted-modules-common by hand.
[18:57] <ogra> stgraber,
[18:57] <ogra> Rejected:
[18:57] <ogra> Not permitted to upload to the RELEASE pocket in a series in the 'CURRENT' state.
[18:57] <ogra> ...
[18:58] <ogra> Distribution: hardy
[18:58] <ogra> sorry, didnt check before uploading
[18:58]  * ogra does a quickfix
[19:00] <ogra> (changed both hardy occurences to intrepid, please fix accordingly in your package)
[19:45]  * stgraber wonders why it's hardy in the changelog ... 
[19:47] <stgraber> ogra: fixed, thanks
[19:47] <stgraber> I guess that was because I was using dch on an hardy system, it didn't check the release of the previous change ...
[19:48] <ogra> likely
[19:49] <stgraber> hmm, failed on hppa, sparc and ia64 because of a dep problem with qt4. I'll need to ask for a give back once qt is updated there
[23:29] <aidy> hi