[03:49] hellooo [03:50] how can i costumize the ThinClient-chrootm with lts.con it won't be recognizef ? [04:45] so, Im googling around and finding mixed response. Wondered if I could get some help here. I started with ubuntu, then installed the edubuntu add-on. How would I go about going back to plain ubuntu? [04:46] this is of course hardy heron [08:51] ogra: are u there, Don't mean to hassle you, was just wondering if the lpia (atom) netbook-remix is ready? [11:20] ogra: Can you please upload: http://www.stgraber.org/download/ubuntu/italc/ [11:20] will do [11:21] fixes the x11vnc issue once and for all and some other things. It's basically exactly what I'd like as 1.0.9 upstream :) [11:21] which we'll surely get soon i bet :) [11:22] I hope so, Tobias just needs to merge some of my patches and release it [14:48] ogra: so I took a look at the classmate, and it came pre-installed with ubuntu 7.10! [14:49] ugh [14:49] how big is the disk ? [14:49] think 4 gigs [14:49] like the asus eeepc [14:50] ah, k [14:50] the noral cmpc has only two [14:50] so if you are lucky you dont have the ompressed install [14:50] it was really quite fast [14:50] yeah no its a regular ubuntu install [14:50] straight from live cd [14:50] the 7.10 image i did wasnt for distribution, but it seems some OEMs didnt respect that [14:51] (which they are free to do with a free image ... but will get users into troule) [14:51] Iĺl have a closer look this evening at what image it is exactlz [14:51] well, if it was installed from libeCD all should be fine [14:51] well, this is a test pc of course.... [14:51] thats ok on the 4G [14:52] but its not got any atom based stuff... so I guess installing your image would be the next step right? [14:52] that way we can compare speed/cpu/ram usage [14:52] right, as soon as i'm done (no ETA, still fiddling) [14:53] hehe ok, I wont ask again, I know its annoying for you === bddebian2 is now known as bddebian [17:31] Hi. Have you tried to use hostnames ( i.e. "[client1]") instead of mac addresses to create thin client special sections in lts.conf ? Can't get it working. [17:34] you need a proper dns server setup in the client network for that ... i'd go with MAC adresses instead of putting that maintenance overhead on me [17:38] Oh. I thought it was sufficient to declare host names in the local server /etc/hosts file and /etc/dhcpd.conf... [17:38] I mean /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf [17:39] you could try to copy the hosts file inot the chroot [17:40] No, then it would be a real overhead to update the chroot every time i change an ip address... [17:52] well, either that or a DNS server :) [17:53] or stick to MACs ... thats why we did that by default, its a pain to maintain a DNS server and all other parts of ltsp were developed with that in mind ... [17:54] but indeed you *can* use one if you want :) [18:12] Well, i thought it would be easier to use hostnames: say you want to install a local printer on a thin client: cups needs an ip address, so you assign it with dhcp. Then back again to mac address with lts.conf. Conclusion: to get a local printer you need to modify at least 3 files (dhcpd.conf, lts.conf, cupsd stuff) using 2 different notations (mac address and ip address). Not really convenient. [18:16] I forgot: i'm supposed to administer 23 Hardy/ltsp servers for a total of approx 450 thin clients. Anything simplifying this task would be appreciated... [18:17] you can have dhcpd automatically create DNS records [18:18] ok, as long as i can use those hostnames in lts.conf... [18:21] then you'll need to have your DHCP server send that DNS server to the client and they will be able to resolve : clientXYZ.your.lan.com and you'll be able to use that in lts.conf [18:21] (you'll need to google that a bit ...) [18:22] Ok, i'm gonna google on this. Thx. [18:23] Not related: thin client manager: works only for first login session on a thin client. Once user logs out (back to ldm screen), x11vnc gently dies in the thin client. Any fix ? [18:29] italc is the new classroom manager since 8.04, we don't maintain tcm anymore [18:38] Pierre-Yann, tcm's vnc part never really worked right, if anyone touches that app again my proposal is to drop the tab completely ... use italc,.. its the future :) [18:41] stgraber, uploaded now btw, sorry for the delay, had a busy day [18:42] ogra: cool, np [18:43] I just upgraded to Intrepid, relatively stable so far [18:43] and I have my sd card reader working !!! :) [18:43] well, mdz had a rough ride :) [18:43] (as you can see on -devel-discuss) [18:43] well, I didn't really upgraded :), I saved my /home and reinstalled [18:43] yep, I saw his mail [18:44] i still have to stick with hardy until the sprint :/ [18:44] I usually reinstall my lappy with Alpha-1 then upgrade all the time until the Alpha-1 of the next release :) [18:47] nvidia/fglrx drivers are broken, I had to patch my fglrx by hand and restart dkms. Other than that, the intel wireless firmwares were missing and I had to install linux-restricted-modules-common by hand. [18:57] stgraber, [18:57] Rejected: [18:57] Not permitted to upload to the RELEASE pocket in a series in the 'CURRENT' state. [18:57] ... [18:58] Distribution: hardy [18:58] sorry, didnt check before uploading [18:58] * ogra does a quickfix [19:00] (changed both hardy occurences to intrepid, please fix accordingly in your package) [19:45] * stgraber wonders why it's hardy in the changelog ... [19:47] ogra: fixed, thanks [19:47] I guess that was because I was using dch on an hardy system, it didn't check the release of the previous change ... [19:48] likely [19:49] hmm, failed on hppa, sparc and ia64 because of a dep problem with qt4. I'll need to ask for a give back once qt is updated there [23:29] hi