[00:00] Hello aall === luis__ is now known as tigremx [00:17] cod2 [00:17] Join cod2 [00:17] Join #cod2 [00:19] ? [00:20] nabend === luis__ is now known as tigremx [00:36] i have a free space without partition on my drive, how can i install ntfs partition on it under kubuntu 8 without lost of data? [00:38] would anyone be able to tell me if there is a cmd to download madwifi and if so, what it is [00:38] hello all. I am using ubuntu, but I installed kde and am now using it as my windows manager. is there a reason that compiz fusion doesn't seem to be working? [00:39] is tehre something i have to do?> [00:39] tweak: the madwifi driver is pre-installed [00:40] kk...then would u be able to tell me why i'm unable to stop and start the different card interfaces, by anychance...the only thing that i could think of was that i was missing an updated madwifi or somethin [00:42] StevenX: did you enable it from kde? [00:44] What's new in 8.04.1? [00:44] does anybody know the programm called ooVoo? and if, how to run it under linux [00:45] mitsarionas, that's what i'm trying to figure out how to do [00:45] check out kmenu->system->desktop effects [00:47] kaminix: it's just a more recent snapshot of 8.04... just minor updates on whatever packages have been updated [00:48] Ah. Nothing I need to download then. [00:48] you alreaady have it ;) [00:48] even the grub menu is updated to print 8.04.1 [00:49] :) [00:49] thanks mitsarionas, tha got it working [00:49] mitsarionas, quick question, why do I have a ball on my desktop that I can get rid off called the "Adept Notifier"? [00:50] you're welcome [00:50] it will go away when you restart x [00:50] i have a free space without partition on my drive, how can i install ntfs partition on it under kubuntu 8 without lost of data? [00:50] it's just a bug of some sort [00:50] OK. i am going to restart the machien now. thanks for the help. [00:51] i cant view rar files... [00:51] did you install unrar? [00:51] nop [00:51] should i? [00:51] yeah ;) [00:51] okay) [00:52] apt-get install unrar? [00:52] yeah... i think...there's a free and a non-free version [00:52] i think unrar depends on unrar-nonfree [00:52] what is the best solution? [00:53] nonfree i think the free one doesn't open recent rar's iirc [00:53] iirc - what is it? [00:54] if i recall correctly :) [00:54] okay, can i use nonfree for free? [00:55] yeah, it's just not open-source i think... [00:55] how can i install it, tell me please [00:55] and i want save deb file for my friends, is it possible? [00:56] apt-get install unrar (that installs non-free indeed) [00:56] they're kept somewhere [00:56] oh.. i see [00:56] lemme check [00:56] dont go anyway))) i have question for you)) [00:57] /var/cache/apt/archives [00:57] not going away :) [00:58] thanks for path... and rar arcs are open now))) [00:58] ;) [00:58] hola, que tal, [00:58] hola amigo :) [00:59] que tal? soy nuevo en ubuntu, nos sabes como instalar el kopete??? [00:59] !es | beto [00:59] beto: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [00:59] my disk has 140Gbytes of free space without any fylesystem.. i want to create ntfs partition there... how can i do this without data lost? [01:00] entonces e spereerible que hable en ingles o me cambie de canal? === luis__ is now known as tigremx [01:02] !es | beto [01:02] beto: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [01:02] hi. there is this old systemsettings->resolution of mouse problem... [01:02] how do i give myself the right to change the settings of my mouse? [01:03] am tired of doint "kdesu kcmshell mouse" [01:03] or using lmctl... kde has it built-in goddamnit! [01:11] hi everyone [01:12] hi m_tadeu [01:12] whats the story with this new kubuntu release? [01:12] m_tadeu: just 8.04.1 has been released... [01:13] it's very stable and easier to set up application-wise than previous releases , IMO [01:15] where can I find the changelog? [01:16] It's probably just all the security and bug fixes that have been released since April [01:16] I see [01:16] it's just not usual to make a release based on that [01:17] It saves people that are installing it from having to download a whole bunch of updates [01:17] it's still hardy...just an updated cd image [01:19] I haven't been paying much attention on the updates....was there a big security problem, or something like that? [01:19] There are always updates to various packages [01:28] um... is there a sound recorder app for kde? not with any fancy features, just recording... [01:29] recording line in , mic , or cd or... ? [01:30] mic === timmytron is now known as akatiimmm === akatiimmm is now known as timmytron [01:32] guess it was due to a security vulnerability in openssl...they fixed all ubuntu flavours :) === root is now known as Guest10254 [01:38] ... file a bug report... all I see is forums... [01:38] I guess KDE (4) has its own channel/forum/etc...? === luis__ is now known as tigremx [01:45] http://bugs.kde.org [01:46] http://launchpad.net [01:46] #kubuntu-kde4 [01:48] Thanks for that ... [01:49] Adn for kubuntu philosophy ...? Or feature requests ...? Anythign specific to go to? [01:50] feature requests for Kubuntu in general would go to launchpad.net, for kde would go to bugs.kde.org, do it like you're filing a bug except for severity choose "wishlist" [01:50] anywho, I'm headed to bed. Night === dwidmann is now known as dwidmann|sleepwo [01:53] Thanks, sleepwell === _roconnor is now known as roconnor [01:55] is anyone using Konsole in KDE 4? [02:01] I used it a little bit lasst night [02:02] Fonts apeared italic... === root is now known as Guest74732 [02:25] Hi all, I'm having an issue, trying to change my systemsettings but it won't update the settings. [02:25] It sits there saying its updating and redo=\ [02:26] re-dos it ... I let it sit there overnight to see what would happen and I'm just now getting back to it and its still saying it's updating. [02:27] cara: what settings are you trying to change? [02:32] Hello all [02:32] Does espeak read odt files? [02:32] I am having an issue in doing so. [02:32] espeak -f filename.odt [02:32] Just says "p k" from the audio [02:34] hi just update to 8.04, when I click kmenu...system settings it crashes....any ideas what I can look at to fix? [02:35] I guess not since a test.txt works just fine. [02:35] dsmith_: kde3? or kde4? [02:35] 3 [02:36] alot of apps in lost & found [02:36] I tried renaming .kde but it still persists [02:36] the problem that is [02:37] i was just going to suggest that... :| [02:38] some config file must be broke [02:39] dsmith_: one way to find out if that is true is to add a new user and see if the problem still persists... [02:39] hmmmmmmmm [02:39] mmm [02:39] I have two other users on here [02:39] let me try that [02:39] k [02:41] same problem [02:43] dsmith_: do you have a user that you can delete all files in ~ ? [02:43] why dont i just create a new user? [02:43] you can do that too... [02:44] gtg, good luck! [02:44] can someone please help me, I view my server (website) in firefox but I can ping it and it works. I have a basic LAMP setup for testing, does anyone know what I shuold do? [02:46] ! [02:47] Odd-rationale: same problem on a new user [02:48] navetz_: wrong forum [02:50] Odd-rationale: whats is your command for system settings? [02:51] oh damn I just noticed he left [02:55] hi, I can't get amarok to find .aif files from my iTunes collection when I scan [02:56] the songs play fine if I manually find them [02:56] wrong forum [02:57] try amarok forum [02:57] I've asked there, everyone's asleep [02:57] wait for 4-6 hours [02:57] heh [02:57] I'm setting this PC up for my little bro, gotta drop it off in an hour [02:57] :O [02:58] oh.... [02:58] he won't be happy if his music collection is missing [02:58] I'm switching him over from XP, rather than re-install for the third time.. [02:58] heh [02:58] right on.... [02:58] thats what I do [02:58] is his ipod new? [02:58] what generation is it? [02:58] Odd-rationale: I'm sorry I was afk [02:59] odd has left [02:59] I've tried rhythmbox too, it detects the files but lists them as Unknown Unknown [02:59] I was trying to change the regional settings [02:59] o [02:59] dang [02:59] well [02:59] dsmith: it's 1st gen iPod nano I think [02:59] wow [02:59] it should have no problems [03:00] my gf had some issues with her new iPod, I had to install some new library [03:00] but that was with Gutsy [03:00] did you look online? [03:00] I was trying to change my regional settings and kde just sits there saying its updating and I let it go on overnight so its been doing it for almost 20 hours [03:00] got that sorted out no probs [03:00] and has not updated anything === kristjan__ is now known as kristjan_ === debian is now known as Guest42427 [03:05] ñ,ñ, [03:05] l,mlll [03:06] nmiikn [03:07] fdhgsfhfs [03:07] dfhdfh [03:07] fdhfd [03:09] #debian-kde [03:16] <[ifr0g]> Hi, Does any one here have problem with ff3 ? [03:17] <[ifr0g]> Mines crashing. [03:19] mines fine maybe they can help at #firefox [03:21] <[ifr0g]> mr---t-, yeah, maybe. but i think i will stick with 2 till i reinstall to 8.04 [03:25] [ifr0g]: i am using 8.04 btw [03:26] <[ifr0g]> yes, couple of my friends said firefox is fine on 6.04 [03:26] <[ifr0g]> 8* [03:26] <[ifr0g]> mr---t-, So, Do you happen to know vlc and tv streaming? [03:27] <[ifr0g]> or* [03:27] no [03:27] <[ifr0g]> k [03:27] never used either [03:28] I use my computer as a computer no dvds or tv [03:28] <[ifr0g]> I was trying to get my vlc to stream a youtube playlist over to my cafe's ip tv. [03:29] <[ifr0g]> mr---t-, k ;) [03:29] others here may know [03:29] <[ifr0g]> mr---t-, So what do you do for a living? [03:29] how do I make my laptop lock when I close the lid? [03:30] <[ifr0g]> yurimxpxman, huh, did you check the power option? [03:30] <[ifr0g]> there is a small batter icon on the kicker. [03:30] [ifr0g]: computer desktop support, but here is a help channel and this is off topic [03:31] <[ifr0g]> mr---t-, Ah, ok :0 [03:32] <[ifr0g]> I guessed no one is chatting, so wont create much disturbance. [03:32] prolly not but I never know [03:33] <[ifr0g]> kazol, Indian ? [03:33] <[ifr0g]> mr---t-, So you are new here? [03:33] yes fairly [03:33] <[ifr0g]> I been here since the kubuntu first release. [03:34] I've only been using linux for about 3 months , I have to work with M$ [03:35] <[ifr0g]> me too, sadly. My work deals with windows servers :( [03:35] Welcome to the Woot Woild of Tux, mr---t- ;) [03:36] I'm lovin it, I learn alot hanging out in here [03:37] hello guys. [03:37] It amazes me how things that are new features in M$ have been in linux for a long time [03:37] How can i make a list of all the packages installed on my computer? [03:37] <[ifr0g]> StevenX, Hi. [03:38] [ifr0g], do you know what command I can use to make a list of the packages installed on my kbuntu box? [03:39] <[ifr0g]> stuq, huh i guess dpkg -l [03:40] [ifr0g], yea, but I want that exported to a list. Like list.txt [03:40] is it possible to launch non-executable files (such as *.jpg) from the konsole so that it opens in the default viewer? [03:40] <[ifr0g]> Is that the list you want ^^ [03:41] <[ifr0g]> what format ? [03:41] [ifr0g]: You prefer Windows over *nix?? [03:41] [ifr0g]: I am faced with everyone using Windows and I simply hate it. [03:41] <[ifr0g]> kazol, Absolutely. [03:42] [ifr0g]: Just curious, why? [03:43] <[ifr0g]> kazol, Windows is not bad. Its just too expensive and closed and unsecure. [03:43] he meant it is BAD)) [03:43] [ifr0g]: It's extremely unstable, impossible to use, and has absolutely no flexibility. [03:44] Those three causes = bad i think [03:44] And don't get me started on the MS-DOS shell.... [03:44] <[ifr0g]> kazol, Unstable, yesh when its on the internet. Impossible to configure compared to linux. [03:44] I wouldn't even call it a "shell." [03:45] <[ifr0g]> kazol, WIndows how have super shell or something. [03:45] <[ifr0g]> :P [03:45] Yes, I know about it. [03:45] It is still inferior. [03:46] lol.... [03:46] are you guys serious? [03:46] Yes [03:46] I am extremely anti-Microsoft. [03:46] wow... [03:47] <[ifr0g]> kazol, Its not windows thats bad but its methodology behide its creation. [03:47] <[ifr0g]> For example look at reactOS [03:47] It's still not good enough for me. [03:48] windows is not bad at all. not everyone can use linux, and OSx us worthless to most [03:48] Whenever I use Windows, I feel severely deprived. [03:49] As though I have little control over anything. [03:49] Everything is hidden underneath and not viewable to the user. [03:49] And the user is treated like a complete idiot. [03:49] like what? [03:49] <[ifr0g]> Some people dont want to know. [03:49] Ive never had to reboot my linux box [03:49] well no one really cares [03:50] I need to know everything that is going on with the system. [03:50] <[ifr0g]> kazol, Do you care how your car works before you can dirve it ? [03:50] Yes, I am obsessed with technology. [03:50] treating users like complete idiots is generally speaking a good idea [03:50] <[ifr0g]> or mictowave. [03:50] jaakkome: True, else people would be invoking "rm -rf */*" [03:51] oops, I meant /* [03:51] I believe that consumer technology is too "simple" to use. [03:51] most people dont really care how a computer works, they just want to check their mail and watch porn, you dont need linux to do that. windows is designed for the computer illiterate [03:52] <[ifr0g]> excatly ^^ [03:52] of course [03:52] But not all people are computer/technology illiterate. [03:52] majority are though [03:52] For example, developers and sysadmins. [03:53] k... [03:53] is that the majority of PC users? [03:53] no. [03:53] yes and computers are quite complex devices nowadays... I had a decent understanding of how my C64 worked. Now it'd take me years to figure out even the basics of how my video card works. [03:53] <[ifr0g]> :) [03:54] Computer hardware engineering is not an easy occupation. [03:55] The Windows platform isn't flexible at all...for example, I cannot install it to my wifi router (8MB RAM). [03:55] so what? [03:55] Or iPod, pda, etc. [03:55] thats not what it was designed for [03:55] <[ifr0g]> lol [03:56] I cannot choose my desktop environment...KDE/GNOME/xfce/etc. or just a CLI. [03:56] it was designed to be a desktop GUI for the average idiot, not something to load onto your microwave [03:56] I hate using the GUI...it's too slow and has minimal functionality. [03:57] <[ifr0g]> Windows will become the minority preety soon. [03:57] slow? maybe in vista, XP is very fast for me and is very functional. [03:57] and no, windows will always be on top [03:57] Vista's hardware requirements are simply ridiculous. [03:57] i agree [03:57] vista is stupid [03:57] <[ifr0g]> same. [03:57] and bugged [03:57] Of course Windows will always be popular. [03:57] windows is very fast for me to use: I just click the "world of warcraft" icon on my desktop and off I go [03:58] <[ifr0g]> lol :D [03:58] matthew_: why are you baiting people here? [03:58] jaakkome: But very new hardware is needed, and Windows tends to accumilate unneeded files over time. [03:58] baiting is fun [03:58] stop [03:58] this is a support channel for kubuntu [03:58] i just jumped in... [03:58] Hence you see *nix DNS servers running for >10yrs. 24/7. [03:58] if you must, use the offtopic channels [03:59] <[ifr0g]> Opps, did i just start a distro war :o [03:59] <[ifr0g]> OS* [03:59] lol, k, maybe you should go after the fire starters then [03:59] Yes, I believe you did. lol. [03:59] why single me out? [03:59] And I exacerbated it. [03:59] reading further back, that pretty much applies to everyone involved [03:59] <[ifr0g]> :D ok, guys linux is the winner. Case closed. [03:59] matthew_: wasn't reading back far enough, i apologize for singling you out [04:00] should have just been: [04:00] !offtopic [04:00] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [04:00] :D [04:00] <[ifr0g]> Lets talk about linux :) [04:00] [ifr0g]: I guess that I do agree that linux is only for certain users, as seen from the failure of the Linux PC at Walmart. [04:00] lolk [04:01] <[ifr0g]> :) [04:01] kazol: now you made me get involved. failure? they couldn't keep it on the shelves. [04:01] i want one :( [04:01] Fortunately, user-friendly distros (notably Kubuntu and Ubuntu) are bringing Linux to the masses. [04:01] oh yea. the asus eee is pretty popular too [04:01] <[ifr0g]> lol :D [04:01] although you can get a stripped down version of XP on it... [04:02] kazol: i think part of the gpc's failure with the masses (enthusiasts love the low power little buggers) is that gOS isn't very polished [04:02] I guess so, and many other reasons. [04:02] For example, the average user will not figure out how to install Turbotax or iTunes. [04:02] to upgrade to hardy from gutsy, i just update from adept? [04:03] (Assuming the OS will have Firefox, OpenOffice, Thunderbird, vlc, etc.) [04:03] that would be a down grade [04:03] asobi: yes, there should be a button for that there [04:03] <[ifr0g]> OK, Got to reboot my fresh kernel. brb.. [04:03] sorry misread [04:03] ok. what are possible things that could go wrong after upgrade? [04:03] is there anything i should do beforehand? [04:04] backup [04:04] as always [04:04] asobi: the system might be left unstable [04:04] why unstable? [04:04] asobi: well, the world could end, fire could rain down from the skies, obliterating life as we know it... of course, that would be completely coincidental, but would count as something that went wrong after an upgrade [04:04] in my experience it is really hit and miss [04:04] I have never successfully upgraded but I hear from tons of people who have no problems [04:05] i personally prefer a clean install, and therefore keep my /home on a separate partition [04:05] do i uninstall anything? [04:05] asobi: technically the upgrader should do it all for you [04:05] my home is on a separate partition [04:05] you just cross your fingers [04:05] asobi: then you have a lot less to worry about [04:06] at this point you might want to just wait until the next release though =P [04:06] because if something does go wrong, you can install fresh and you won't have as big a problem getting everything together [04:06] cpk1: why? it's lts [04:06] Ive done it both ways but only the clean install was trouble free [04:06] <[ifr0g]> Did i miss something? [04:06] i have ff3 beta 4 now, would it upgrade auto after update? [04:06] !firefox [04:06] firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins [04:07] cpk1: wait till october? [04:07] that's 2 people who had problems upgrading -_- [04:07] Daisuke_Ido: afaik kubuntu 8.04 isnt lts? [04:07] yea [04:07] well, I had no trouble, if you're taking polls [04:08] how long will it take? [04:08] oh, nm just kde4 remix isnt lts [04:08] neither is LTS, iirc... [04:09] Kubuntu 8.04 features the rock solid KDE 3 and is supported for 18 months (until October 2009). from the site [04:09] oh yeah thats normal [04:09] not lts [04:09] * cpk1 smacks head [04:12] when i upgrade, i just let it run in the background? [04:18] <[ifr0g]> lol, every one is gone to sleep :) [04:18] <[ifr0g]> asobi, well its good to keep a log as you do it bg. [04:21] ZZZZZZZZZ [04:21] kde just died [04:24] I LIKE THE INTERNET [04:24] (and so can you) [04:25] hello everyone [04:31] not much C in the irc 2nite [04:34] I am trying to set up my Epson C84 Stylus with the KDE Print Wizard, but I am lost at the first dialogue :( [04:34] the local printer option is greyed out [04:35] hello. i read that kubuntu 8.04.1 is out and I wonder if the differences are enough to justify updating from 8.04, and if updating will require some fiddling before having it functional (as with wifi, nvidia, etc) [04:36] darkwolf: is the printer plugged in and turned on? [04:37] yep [04:37] okay now all the options are greyed out [04:37] darkwolf: is it a usb printer? [04:37] I will stop messing around with it now... :( [04:38] nope [04:38] parallel port [04:39] I mean, ony my own, any advice would be appreciated :) [04:39] darkwolf: hmm... no idea about those. when i had kde printer troubles, i used the cups interface and i could install the printers with that. try this http://localhost:631/ [04:40] what do you mean by wizard? [04:42] flash works in konqueror but not firefox [04:42] darkwolf: what do you mean bt print wizard , wizard is a windows term [04:42] darkwolf: you should also make sure you have the drivers, in aptitude. [04:42] mr---t-, lol [04:43] sorry mr t [04:43] you get the idea though :) [04:43] I have been nothing but Linux for four months now (except work), but old habits die hard [04:43] this is the first time I have tried to add printer support [04:44] I really meant the question, I have two diferent setup options in my system settings which are you using [04:44] its under system settings [04:45] yes I have two one with an icon and one w/o [04:45] under the computer admin section I select the Printers icon [04:45] now when I open it I get the following error: [04:46] yes? [04:46] darkwolf, set the printing syste [04:47] Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager: Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: /var/run/cups/cups.sock: connection refused (10) [04:47] to cups and check if the deamon is running [04:47] how do I switch the printing system to cups? [04:48] in Printing system settings [04:49] let me reboot, I'll brb [04:50] ehh [04:50] reboot lol [04:50] yeah [04:51] he might have internal fw issues or premission issues. [04:51] onnection refused (10) [04:51] +c [04:51] I d bet the latter [04:53] <[ifr0g]> ZZZZZZZZZ [04:53] okay back [04:53] okay so after I slect CUPs, then what? [04:54] the option is Remote Cups Server (IPP/HTTP), correct? [04:56] .... [04:57] so square 1, how do I install an epson c84 in Kubuntu? it is hooked up and turned on [05:00] darkwolf: first of all linux almost never needs reboots, second are you trying to install through system settings or through system menu? [05:02] darkwolf: ? [05:02] reminds me, I forgot to remind my work buddy about the reboot thing. he keeps rebooting his machine for stupid stuff like changing sources.list [05:04] darkwolf: the reason i ask is because one of the two is full screen and the administator button may be covered by your toolbar, in which case you can't make changes thus greyed out [05:05] o well [05:06] sorry, I'm here [05:06] don't goooooooo [05:06] well the reboot worked this time [05:06] through system settings [05:07] do you now have a working printer [05:07] not yet [05:07] I mean nothing is greyed out [05:07] what do you mean the reboot worked then [05:07] o [05:08] did you see my post about full screen ect [05:08] yeah [05:09] can you see your button? [05:09] nothing is being covered by the toolbar [05:09] u not answering the q [05:09] yeah, I am in administrator mode [05:09] :) [05:09] yes thats what i was getting at [05:10] I see the button, I clicked it and entered my password :) [05:10] right above it says print system currently used; Cups [05:11] * darkwolf is still here :) [05:11] I set mine up through system>printing and thought that way was easier [05:12] hi [05:12] anybody from mexico?? [05:12] !me [05:12] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [05:12] heh :) [05:12] lol [05:13] nuxil...are you mexican?? [05:13] I don't even see that [05:13] kitetsu, ! means not [05:14] kmenu> system> printing [05:14]