| Myrtti | hi, I'd like to file a bug on Launchpad bug thingie about it's inability to sanitize bug reports. Where would it be appropriate? | 00:16 |
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| Myrtti | is it apport bug, launchpad bug report bug or launchpad bug? | 00:17 |
| stdin | Myrtti: against malone I should think | 00:23 |
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| Rinchen | changed date for next mtg | 00:24 |
| kgoetz | hi all. does LP still automatically close bugs? | 01:14 |
| LaserJock | I thought so | 01:15 |
| kgoetz | oh well. :/ thanks for the reply. | 01:16 |
| LaserJock | kgoetz: did you check the syntax? | 01:16 |
| kgoetz | LaserJock: syntax for what? | 01:16 |
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| kgoetz | wtf? | 01:17 |
| kgoetz | i wanted the topic *of* easyubuntu :O | 01:17 |
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| === kgoetz changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Next meeting, all welcome: Thu 10 July 2008, 1800UTC #launchpad-meeting | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Questions and spam reports: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | ||
| LaserJock | https://help.launchpad.net | Questions and spam reports: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Channel logs: | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | man | 01:17 |
| kgoetz | crazyness. | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | ok | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | kgoetz: what do you mean by automatically close bugs? | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | you mean the Incomplete ones, or closing when uploading? | 01:18 |
| kgoetz | LaserJock: it was closing them after 60 days. (incomplete ones?) | 01:18 |
| LaserJock | oh, right | 01:18 |
| LaserJock | I think that was shut of a long time ago | 01:18 |
| LaserJock | I think perhaps it just marks bugs now instead of closing them | 01:19 |
| LaserJock | *but* I could be way off | 01:19 |
| kgoetz | cool. might start using 'incomplete' again *g* | 01:20 |
| LaserJock | well, you don't want to use it for longstanding bugs | 01:20 |
| kgoetz | where can i get help on the 'active' vs 'inactive' team member status? | 01:38 |
| wgrant | kgoetz: Inactive just means they've left the team or expired. | 01:38 |
| wgrant | Why does there need to be help on it? | 01:38 |
| wgrant | It's fairly clear. | 01:38 |
| kgoetz | wgrant: its fairly clear, if you know what 'inactive' is meant to mean. | 01:39 |
| wgrant | Not...active. | 01:39 |
| kgoetz | and when does one go from "not active" to "active"? when awake? when at work? after 666 hours? | 01:40 |
| kgoetz | and vica versa i guess | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | hmm, that is actually a good point | 01:43 |
| wgrant | mpt: ^^ | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | "active" sort of does imply there is a criteria | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | and if you don't meet it you're "inactive" | 01:44 |
| kgoetz | is there a bug open against LP about being unable to remove bugs you commented on from your bugs list? i thought there was one, but i'm unable to find it at the moment. | 01:51 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I wouldl've just gone to the bugs I wanted | 01:52 |
| wgrant | kgoetz: Why not just go to one of the lists that doesn't have the bugs you've commented on? | 01:53 |
| kgoetz | wgrant: not sure i follow you | 01:55 |
| wgrant | kgoetz: If you don't want your commented bugs to be in your bugs list, go to one that doesn't include commented bugs instaed. | 01:55 |
| kgoetz | how does that work with bugs i'm subscribd to and have commented on? | 01:58 |
| kgoetz | tbh this feels rather work-aroundish | 01:58 |
| LaserJock | kgoetz: so go to the list of subscribed bugs | 01:59 |
| LaserJock | kgoetz: does that not work? | 01:59 |
| wgrant | Much like if I don't want a list of all Ubuntu bugs, I won't go to the page which lists all Ubuntu bugs. | 01:59 |
| wgrant | If I don't want all bugs I've commented on, I won't go to the page that displays them. | 02:00 |
| kgoetz | LaserJock: yeah, it does. guess i can ignore the 'all related bugs' link. | 02:02 |
| LaserJock | kgoetz: I do unless I want to see everything | 02:02 |
| kgoetz | LaserJock: i want to see everything thats still relevent ;) | 02:03 |
| kgoetz | afk. company meting ;| | 02:04 |
| LaserJock | you know, package subscription is really broken | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | it's very inconsistent and difficult to work with that a team can be subscribed to a package, but is subscribed to *none* of the bugs | 06:47 |
| Syntux | Hello, is there anyway to send a message to all team members, a team that I own? | 08:26 |
| siretart | mwhudson: is the rule that only svn trunk branches are imported definitive? see question #38158 for background. We would like to track an experimental branch of a project in order to provide test packages in a PPA | 08:35 |
| popey | Is there any way for us to configure launchpad mailing lists to "reply to list" ? | 08:56 |
| wgrant | cprov: Is there any way to see stable updates now? | 09:41 |
| wgrant | cprov: It seems that copies don't even appear on +queue. | 09:41 |
| cprov | wgrant: SRU were already there, what do you mean exactly ? | 09:42 |
| wgrant | cprov: Well, one can't see when things move to -updates, or security uploads once s-i-s is used. | 09:43 |
| wgrant | And I'm sure people care more about seeing updates post-release than pre-release. | 09:43 |
| cprov | wgrant: no, s-i-s won't help it. | 09:44 |
| cprov | wgrant: the copies have timestamp in the publishing history, no ? | 09:44 |
| wgrant | cprov: Correct, but there's no way to find what was updated. | 09:45 |
| wgrant | I can find what has happened to package X fine, but I don't know to look for package X. | 09:45 |
| wgrant | Whereas previously everything appeared on -changes, as copying was impossible. | 09:45 |
| cprov | wgrant: uhm, I don't think we have a bug filed about it. | 09:46 |
| wgrant | I guess what is really needed it a feed of BPPs. | 09:46 |
| wgrant | Er, SPPs. | 09:46 |
| cprov | wgrant: it's a good point, users should be able to see the publishing history per suite | 09:46 |
| wgrant | That would be wonderful. | 09:47 |
| wgrant | Shall I file it? | 09:47 |
| bigjools | a feed of history - nice idea | 09:47 |
| cprov | wgrant: yes, please | 09:48 |
| cprov | wgrant: don't get too excited about the 'feeds' right now ;) | 09:48 |
| wgrant | Bug #245434 | 09:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 245434 in soyuz "Need view of publishing history by DistroSeries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245434 | 09:52 |
| cprov | wgrant: thank you! | 09:53 |
| wgrant | No, thank you for not shooting it down. | 09:54 |
| cprov | wgrant: err, i never shoot your bugs down, they are always great ideas :) | 09:56 |
| wgrant | I doubt it. | 09:56 |
| cprov | wgrant: don't, check your reported-bugs list and you will believe me. | 09:58 |
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| wgrant | True. | 10:00 |
| rasker | hello, The Smart Package Manager Team has recently started using Translations as the upstream for out translations. I have imported a couple of user contributed translations. they have been stuck in the queue for a few days. What do I need to do to fix this? | 10:02 |
| rasker | *our | 10:02 |
| rasker | they are stuck at needs review | 10:03 |
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| norsetto | In the mentoring-reception, we have a bzr branch with some stuff in it. Apparently only me, as the admin, has write access to this branch. Is this correct? Can I extend write access to ALL member of the team? | 10:36 |
| wgrant | norsetto: That's not correct. | 10:37 |
| wgrant | All members of a team owning a branch can push to it. | 10:37 |
| rasker | can I get some help with the translation feature? | 10:37 |
| wgrant | rasker: I believe there's a bit of a backlog - maybe wait a couple more days. | 10:38 |
| norsetto | wgrant: members of the team are getting this message when trying to push " bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.UnlockableTransport: Cannot lock: transport is | 10:38 |
| norsetto | read only: <bzrlib.transport.http._pycurl.PyCurlTransport | 10:38 |
| wgrant | Templates only have to be approved like this once - updates to them go through automatically. | 10:38 |
| wgrant | norsetto: bzr launchpad-login | 10:38 |
| wgrant | It doesn't know that user's username, so is using HTTP rather than bzr+ssh. | 10:38 |
| norsetto | wgrant: ok, so its probably a setup error on the member's side | 10:39 |
| rasker | wgrant: actually I think there is an issue with the imported files. These files add languages to a template. Is there any way I can see what problem tranlations is having so I can correct it? | 10:39 |
| wgrant | norsetto: It is. They need to run `bzr launchpad-login <their LP username>` | 10:39 |
| wgrant | rasker: They need to be approved by a human the first time. | 10:39 |
| norsetto | wgrant: ok, thanks, btw do you have any idea how long it takes for a team mailing list to be approved? | 10:40 |
| rasker | wgrant: ok I saw that. I have imported a bunch around the same time and they all got in pretty quick (~1-2days) | 10:40 |
| wgrant | norsetto: It is probably inversely proportional to square of the number of times you poke a ML admin. | 10:40 |
| wgrant | Although it will always happen eventually, it can always be sped up. | 10:40 |
| norsetto | wgrant: well, its the first time I poke, and I submitted the request 1 week ago ... | 10:41 |
| rasker | launchpad is swampped with it's success :) | 10:42 |
| rasker | wgrant: would the human who looks at the translation provide feedback if there was a problem? or would the files just stay in the queue? | 10:43 |
| wgrant | rasker: It would be a very strange design decision to have them left in the queue. | 10:43 |
| wgrant | So I suspect you'll be complained at if somebody finds a problem with it. | 10:44 |
| rasker | wgrant: ok cool, thanks for answering my questions | 10:44 |
| \sh | dear launchpad database admin + webadmin: please forgive the test of py-lp-bugs -> fetch projectlists test... | 10:46 |
| wgrant | \sh: I'll be listening to the news for the explosion in London. | 10:47 |
| \sh | wgrant: hehe | 10:47 |
| wgrant | Though lucas succeeded in mirroring all Ubuntu bugs. | 10:47 |
| norsetto | wgrant: since when are you working for LP? | 10:47 |
| wgrant | norsetto: I'm not. | 10:48 |
| \sh | wgrant: well, 94 page requests + start= + batch=75 is not good for the load on the db servers imho...I'll set the batch size to 300 the next size...that should decrease the load a little...;) | 10:48 |
| \sh | and as always: introducing new features is only doable with pain for others ,-) | 10:49 |
| mpt | Goooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 11:30 |
| mpt | kgoetz, where do you see the word "inactive" anywhere? Can you give an example URL? | 11:30 |
| \sh | phew...fetching the project list works now as expected for py-lp-bugs | 11:31 |
| wgrant | mpt: Only in the portlet on the left. | 11:32 |
| wgrant | Membership: | 11:32 |
| wgrant | 41 active members | 11:32 |
| wgrant | 10 inactive members | 11:32 |
| wgrant | But the body still uses 'active', though not 'inactive'. | 11:33 |
| mpt | kgoetz, I reported bug 245469 based on your question about excluding bug reports you've commented on | 11:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 245469 in malone "+assignedbugs, +subscribedbugs, +reportedbugs, +commentedbugs, +bugs are inflexibly redundant" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245469 | 11:46 |
| mpt | popey, no, and that's by design. Ask your friendly mail client vendor to add a "Reply to List" button. | 11:47 |
| mpt | wgrant, ah, I see. Reported as bug 245472. | 11:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 245472 in launchpad "Team page refers confusingly to "inactive" members" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245472 | 11:54 |
| popey | mpt: kinda knew you'd say that :) | 12:01 |
| popey | fact is it's configurable in mailman, it isn't in launchpad | 12:01 |
| popey | which says to me that mailman has features that launchpad doesn't | 12:01 |
| popey | making it less attractive from a mailman admin pov | 12:01 |
| mpt | Yes, one of the LP developers is one of the mailman core developers | 12:02 |
| lifeless | or in other words | 12:02 |
| lifeless | barry: your public popey aways | 12:02 |
| lifeless | *awaits* | 12:02 |
| mpt | as opposed to a private popey? :-) | 12:02 |
| * persia suspects a dropped comma | 12:04 | |
| popey | Personally i dont mind, I use gods own mail client Mutt, so can cope, but some users just hate it | 12:06 |
| popey | 12:05:59 < Bassetts> in thunderbird do I "Reply All" to send to the list then? because its saying its going to popey with the list in CC | 12:06 |
| popey | ^ it's people like him, users | 12:06 |
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| persia | popey: There's the replytolist plugin for thunderbird... | 12:08 |
| popey | passed that on, thanks persia | 12:09 |
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| andrea-bs | Where ended up the "Help" button which was at the left of every page in launchpad? | 12:15 |
| intellectronica | andrea-bs: in html heaven :) | 12:22 |
| intellectronica | andrea-bs: it is being replaced by a different type of inline help, where appropriate | 12:23 |
| andrea-bs | intellectronica: interesting, thanks | 12:24 |
| andrea-bs | intellectronica: can I propose to put help strings in a public bzr branch so the doc team will be able to access them? | 12:26 |
| intellectronica | andrea-bs: that's a very interesting idea! maybe talk to mrevell-lunch about it? (once he had his lunch - i wouldn't bother with a hungry mrevell) | 12:27 |
| intellectronica | andrea-bs: another option would be to use the translations system somehow | 12:28 |
| andrea-bs | intellectronica: yes, this would be nice :) | 12:28 |
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| mrevell | andrea-bs: Hey, that's a good idea and one we've spoken about previously. | 13:06 |
| mrevell | andrea-bs: I'll speak to some of the other guys on the team about the best way to go about it. | 13:07 |
| andrea-bs | mrevell: great, thanks | 13:07 |
| andrea-bs | mrevell: feel free to ping me if you need ;) | 13:08 |
| mrevell | andrea-bs: Sure, will do. I plan to start work on it next week, so expect to hear from me :) | 13:08 |
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| kblin | hi folks | 15:46 |
| seb128 | hi | 16:15 |
| seb128 | "The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later." is that expect when trying to access the librarian? | 16:16 |
| seb128 | hum, seems to work again now | 16:16 |
| matsubara | seb128, yep, I quick update was done right now :-) | 16:18 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mpt, thanks | 16:18 |
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| Rafik | hello | 21:16 |
| Rafik | any launchpad admin here please ? ^^ | 21:16 |
| klette | Rafik: probably. Just ask you question and see if someone knows the answer or can help you in any other way. If its too confidential to ask on a public chanel, then email is probably the way to go :-) | 21:19 |
| Rafik | Hi klette, thanks | 21:20 |
| Rafik | I think I'll send an email :) | 21:20 |
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| bbommarito | Evening all. | 23:22 |
| Peng | Haha, thanks to that bug, "Launchpad no longer mirrors this branch, because 5 attempts failed.". | 23:28 |
| bbommarito | When you first push a branch to Launchpad, how long does it typically take to scan? | 23:45 |
| Rinchen | normally a minute or two bbommarito | 23:58 |
| Rinchen | at least for updates that's the norm | 23:58 |
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