| lool | http://joze100s.wordpress.com/category/samsung/ says it's an arm | 00:01 |
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| amortvigil | how did you find that i spent the whole night to find that lool | 00:03 |
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| jerryfan | is there any way to emit fake acpi event by command line? | 09:59 |
| LTSPTNK | guys, is it possible to install Ubuntu 8.04 MID on eee pc? | 10:11 |
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| LTSPTNK | I have EEE PC 701 and it wont boot on Ubuntu MID image? | 10:12 |
| LTSPTNK | I mean I burned the image to CD and using USB cd drive | 10:13 |
| ogra | it will likely only work on the atom models | 10:15 |
| ogra | and you should rather use dd and make a binary 1:1 copy of the image to a usb key an boot from that | 10:16 |
| ogra | i doubt it will "just boot" from an iso you mak of it without modifying bootfiles etc | 10:17 |
| LTSPTNK | but isnt the 700MHz celeron part of McCaslin platform? | 10:36 |
| LTSPTNK | Or so I thought? | 10:36 |
| LTSPTNK | Ogra, how do I make that copy? | 10:37 |
| persia | LTSPTNK: Nope. McCaslin is A100 or A110 | 10:37 |
| LTSPTNK | The Intel processors A100 and A110 are x86 architecture low-power microprocessors (code-named Stealey), with a Dothan core derived from the Intel Pentium M, built on a 90 nm process with 512KB L2 cache and 400MHz front side bus (FSB). | 10:37 |
| LTSPTNK | ^^wikipedia | 10:37 |
| persia | Note that some other chips can boot a McCaslin environment, but aren't properly McCaslin. The C7-M cannot boot McCaslin. | 10:37 |
| LTSPTNK | and this Celeron is most definatly based on Dothan Core, so it should support all the same features | 10:38 |
| persia | Right. McCaslin is Stealey + a matching chipset. | 10:38 |
| LTSPTNK | off course, the whole platform | 10:38 |
| LTSPTNK | anyway then use normal Ubuntu 8.04 normal image and install the fansy looking interface of the MID version? | 10:39 |
| persia | Not quite. Some things are compiled differently for lpia, which makes the interface different. | 10:40 |
| LTSPTNK | becouse, we have been researching the usage of EEE PC's in school envinroment, but the Xandros, unfortunately, sucks. | 10:40 |
| LTSPTNK | Ubuntu would be quite good, but while not having good interface for 7" display, it will not be an option | 10:41 |
| persia | LTSPTNK: Try using the dd command mentioned earlier to create a USB key with the image, and boot off that. It may work. | 10:41 |
| LTSPTNK | But ubuntu would have working samba, likewise and all other things | 10:41 |
| LTSPTNK | dd= and then, havent used linux more than 9 months, so last time i used dd command I just erased my whole hard drive, while I mentioned to erase USB key which had contained sercert things :D | 10:42 |
| persia | LTSPTNK: Hmm. I don't have a better solution for you. You may wish to wait until some other installer becomes available. | 10:44 |
| LTSPTNK | but do U know the options I should use? | 10:45 |
| persia | dd if=$(downloaded image file) of=$(device path for USB stick) bs=1024 | 10:47 |
| persia | The easiest way to determine the path for your USB stick is to call dmesg | tail immediately after connecting it. | 10:47 |
| LTSPTNK | and path is /media/disk or something else? | 10:47 |
| persia | Nope. /dev/sd$(something) | 10:48 |
| LTSPTNK | ohh u mean device path? | 10:48 |
| LTSPTNK | gparted tells it :) | 10:48 |
| LTSPTNK | /dev/sdc | 10:48 |
| LTSPTNK | this is something I love with Linux, U can really get help :) | 10:49 |
| ogra | persia, btw i think we urgently need a gui for that dd stuff ... i'f i'm not busy with classmate images on the weekend i'll attack that | 11:08 |
| persia | ogra: Cool. Thanks,. | 11:09 |
| ogra | (only needs three gui elements anyway) | 11:09 |
| persia | File chooser, File chooser, Status report? | 11:09 |
| ogra | file chooser for image, puldown menu with detected USB keys and a progress bar | 11:10 |
| ogra | well, and to buttons "ok" "go" | 11:10 |
| ogra | *two | 11:10 |
| persia | How to differentiate between USB key and other storage? sysfs tree? | 11:10 |
| ogra | err, "go" "cancel" :) | 11:10 |
| ogra | hal | 11:10 |
| ogra | just ask hal for all devices that are tagged removabe, then check if they are usb | 11:11 |
| persia | Probably want to display the volume name as well, for those with persistant USB connections to stuff. | 11:12 |
| ogra | volume name only | 11:12 |
| persia | How about auto-unmounting it as well, as nautilus will auto-mount | 11:12 |
| ogra | i dont want /dev/something exposed to users :) | 11:12 |
| persia | I don't like volume name only: I've a couple keys with the same volume name, but track which I connected last. | 11:12 |
| ogra | (probably in brackets behind the name, but not as default) | 11:12 |
| ogra | not sure you ever used my cmpc installer ... :) | 11:13 |
| persia | That works: cater to both classes of user, with /dev-aware as second-class | 11:13 |
| ogra | but i would just take the code i use there | 11:13 |
| persia | Nope: I don't have a cmpc | 11:13 |
| ogra | it should roughly work on every celeron with intel graphics (roughly as in you will have probs with wlan etc because thats customized) | 11:14 |
| persia | Should the cmpc build work on the SR8, or is it too HW specific to even boot? | 11:14 |
| ogra | i tried it on the Q1 :) and it worked fine | 11:14 |
| ogra | at the last sprint | 11:14 |
| persia | I'll give it a try this weekend then. | 11:14 |
| ogra | well, its supposed to go away anyway at some point in favour of the actual UNR build ... but there is a lot code we cn surely reuse or modify for the intrepid pieces we need | 11:15 |
| LTSPTNK | atleast the image booted | 11:16 |
| persia | ogra: Where is it? I don't see it on cdimages.u.c, and google isn't playing nice. | 11:16 |
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/classmate/images/hardy/ | 11:16 |
| * persia should have guessed :) | 11:16 | |
| ogra | its a bit outdated ... the one i'm working on will be ful lpia | 11:16 |
| persia | That's OK. I'm more just curious about it, as some of it may be interesting, and you've added lots of hacks. | 11:17 |
| persia | Just put on USB, and boot? | 11:17 |
| LTSPTNK | seems to not work | 11:19 |
| LTSPTNK | it has been in same point for 5 minutes | 11:19 |
| LTSPTNK | #attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 | 11:20 |
| LTSPTNK | and not writing hard disk | 11:20 |
| ogra | persia, xactly | 11:22 |
| LTSPTNK | what could be problem with this thingie? the SSD hard disk most propably? | 11:24 |
| persia | LTSPTNK: Rather assumptions in the installer that you have exactly the right arrangement of hardware. | 11:25 |
| lool | asac: Around? | 11:26 |
| persia | You could mount the squashfs in loopback and hack it, but it won't install cleanly on your machine because of different device assignment. | 11:26 |
| LTSPTNK | and now one has customized this image for EEE PC? | 11:26 |
| LTSPTNK | ^^no one | 11:26 |
| persia | LTSPTNK: There've been a few Eee users in the channel, but I've not seen any specific reports about what customisation is required. | 11:31 |
| ogra | many of them used atom based devices afaik | 11:32 |
| LTSPTNK | yeah, problem is that here far in the north where Linux was born, everything arrives 6 months later and costs like hell | 11:33 |
| LTSPTNK | so that why I'm having 701 now :( | 11:33 |
| LTSPTNK | any EEE PC users here? | 11:40 |
| LTSPTNK | any advices what should i do with the Image Creator thingies? | 11:44 |
| asac | lool: how can i serve you? | 11:45 |
| lool | asac: I just wanted to tell you that I ported evolution-rss to xulrunner 1.9's libxul-embedding :) | 11:49 |
| asac | lool: hah | 11:49 |
| lool | asac: Following yesterday's theory, I applied it on evolution-rss and got it to build then to not crash | 11:50 |
| lool | asac: So thanks again :) | 11:50 |
| lool | asac: The last xulrunner 1.9 thing I'm more or less tracking is the mbf one | 11:51 |
| lool | asac: Do you think you could dig a tree with it? | 11:51 |
| lool | asac: I'd love to close this upstream and in hardy | 11:51 |
| asac | lool: whats the current state in hardy? | 11:52 |
| lool | (to stop having to use and test xulrunner 1.8 apps) | 11:52 |
| lool | asac: Current state is we are using an old mbf which is 1.8 | 11:52 |
| asac | its manually patched in the package? or not ported at all | 11:52 |
| asac | hmm | 11:52 |
| lool | It's not ported at all | 11:52 |
| asac | didnt you upload something? | 11:52 |
| lool | I would prefer a new upstream release of mbf | 11:52 |
| lool | No, I tested it | 11:52 |
| asac | ok, so you just uploaded to PPA? | 11:52 |
| asac | ah | 11:52 |
| lool | No | 11:52 |
| lool | First, it was around UME release and we had other things in the pipe, and I thought upstream would respond quickly | 11:53 |
| lool | Second, the changes were quite intrusive and we didn't have a patch system or anything to track changes | 11:53 |
| lool | so doing it downstream would have required many cleanups, adding a patch system then adding the intrusive changes | 11:53 |
| asac | lool: ok. I'll look where those bits are and how much i need to reshape them ;) | 11:53 |
| lool | asac: Cool | 11:53 |
| asac | then push to alioth ;) | 11:53 |
| asac | hehe | 11:53 |
| lool | asac: I would say the top notch thing for upstream would a git tree derived from their master with the last bits of xulrunner 1.9 support as individual commits | 11:54 |
| lool | asac: If you like to look at evolution-rss, it's at svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-evolution/unstable/evolution-rss | 11:55 |
| lool | asac: It might be crashing on exit, but I don't care too much about that | 11:55 |
| lool | asac: One thing which was different is that the profile path was setup first thing, and this crashes with xulrunner 1.9 | 11:55 |
| lool | Moving it later fixed this crash | 11:55 |
| asac | lool: yes makes sense | 11:56 |
| asac | you cannot use any embedding symbols until GRE is booted | 11:56 |
| asac | as they all point to 0x0 | 11:56 |
| asac | ;)= | 11:56 |
| asac | lool: why does it crash on exit? | 11:57 |
| asac | lool: if you use startup_push (not always required), you also need startup_pop on shutdown | 11:57 |
| lool | asac: I didn't check whether this was done properly | 11:57 |
| asac | ok | 11:57 |
| lool | asac: It might be an unrelated crash | 11:57 |
| asac | most likely not | 11:57 |
| lool | I'll tell you in a sec | 11:58 |
| lool | Ah it's not unrelated, sorry | 11:58 |
| lool | asac: Oh ok, makes sense for the not booted use of symbols | 11:58 |
| lool | asac: Concerning the crash on exit, I'll look at it later, hopefully this afternoon | 11:58 |
| lool | It was using startup_push() before my changes already | 11:59 |
| lool | I confirmed that disabling the RSS plugin prevents the crash on exit, but I don't know whether it's an historical bug in the rss plugin | 11:59 |
| lool | The code has tons and tons of warnings, some scary one | 11:59 |
| lool | s | 11:59 |
| lool | There's a gtk_moz_embed_pop_startup (); | 12:00 |
| lool | in gecko_shutdown() | 12:00 |
| lool | #ifdef HAVE_BUGGY_GECKO | 12:01 |
| lool | if (2 == render) | 12:01 |
| lool | system("killall -SIGTERM evolution"); | 12:01 |
| lool | #else | 12:01 |
| lool | gecko_shutdown(); | 12:01 |
| lool | #endif | 12:01 |
| lool | //really find a better way to deal with this// | 12:01 |
| lool | //I do not know how to shutdown gecko (gtk_moz_embed_pop_startup) | 12:01 |
| lool | //crash in nsCOMPtr_base::assign_with_AddRef | 12:01 |
| lool | asac: See what I meant :) | 12:01 |
| lool | That's only set if test "x$GECKO" == "xfirefox" fortunately | 12:02 |
| asac | fortunately? | 12:05 |
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| lool | asac: Well at least we're not in that case is what I meant | 12:42 |
| asac | ok | 12:43 |
| TuxOne | hi | 12:44 |
| TuxOne | just heard about the MID...can we embed this system in to smartphone? | 12:44 |
| persia | TuxOne: Maybe, if your smartphone is sufficiently powerful, and you have a dialer app. | 12:45 |
| TuxOne | hmm | 12:46 |
| persia | The target for the recent release was the 4-6" handheld segment, but much of the code may also be used in other applications. | 12:46 |
| TuxOne | Does it run as a VM? something similar to j2me? | 12:47 |
| persia | It runs on the device directly. There are VM images available for preview on a desktop system. | 12:48 |
| TuxOne | could you please send me the link? | 12:48 |
| TuxOne | ah...i got it | 12:49 |
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| RemsSs | bonjour a tous | 22:43 |
| RemsSs | je cherche des gadgets avec ubuntu dedans est ce que ca existe ? | 22:43 |
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