[00:01] http://joze100s.wordpress.com/category/samsung/ says it's an arm [00:03] how did you find that i spent the whole night to find that lool === cxo is now known as cruiseoveride === cruiseoveride is now known as cxo [09:59] is there any way to emit fake acpi event by command line? [10:11] guys, is it possible to install Ubuntu 8.04 MID on eee pc? === mdz_ is now known as mdz [10:12] I have EEE PC 701 and it wont boot on Ubuntu MID image? [10:13] I mean I burned the image to CD and using USB cd drive [10:15] it will likely only work on the atom models [10:16] and you should rather use dd and make a binary 1:1 copy of the image to a usb key an boot from that [10:17] i doubt it will "just boot" from an iso you mak of it without modifying bootfiles etc [10:36] but isnt the 700MHz celeron part of McCaslin platform? [10:36] Or so I thought? [10:37] Ogra, how do I make that copy? [10:37] LTSPTNK: Nope. McCaslin is A100 or A110 [10:37] The Intel processors A100 and A110 are x86 architecture low-power microprocessors (code-named Stealey), with a Dothan core derived from the Intel Pentium M, built on a 90 nm process with 512KB L2 cache and 400MHz front side bus (FSB). [10:37] ^^wikipedia [10:37] Note that some other chips can boot a McCaslin environment, but aren't properly McCaslin. The C7-M cannot boot McCaslin. [10:38] and this Celeron is most definatly based on Dothan Core, so it should support all the same features [10:38] Right. McCaslin is Stealey + a matching chipset. [10:38] off course, the whole platform [10:39] anyway then use normal Ubuntu 8.04 normal image and install the fansy looking interface of the MID version? [10:40] Not quite. Some things are compiled differently for lpia, which makes the interface different. [10:40] becouse, we have been researching the usage of EEE PC's in school envinroment, but the Xandros, unfortunately, sucks. [10:41] Ubuntu would be quite good, but while not having good interface for 7" display, it will not be an option [10:41] LTSPTNK: Try using the dd command mentioned earlier to create a USB key with the image, and boot off that. It may work. [10:41] But ubuntu would have working samba, likewise and all other things [10:42] dd= and then, havent used linux more than 9 months, so last time i used dd command I just erased my whole hard drive, while I mentioned to erase USB key which had contained sercert things :D [10:44] LTSPTNK: Hmm. I don't have a better solution for you. You may wish to wait until some other installer becomes available. [10:45] but do U know the options I should use? [10:47] dd if=$(downloaded image file) of=$(device path for USB stick) bs=1024 [10:47] The easiest way to determine the path for your USB stick is to call dmesg | tail immediately after connecting it. [10:47] and path is /media/disk or something else? [10:48] Nope. /dev/sd$(something) [10:48] ohh u mean device path? [10:48] gparted tells it :) [10:48] /dev/sdc [10:49] this is something I love with Linux, U can really get help :) [11:08] persia, btw i think we urgently need a gui for that dd stuff ... i'f i'm not busy with classmate images on the weekend i'll attack that [11:09] ogra: Cool. Thanks,. [11:09] (only needs three gui elements anyway) [11:09] File chooser, File chooser, Status report? [11:10] file chooser for image, puldown menu with detected USB keys and a progress bar [11:10] well, and to buttons "ok" "go" [11:10] *two [11:10] How to differentiate between USB key and other storage? sysfs tree? [11:10] err, "go" "cancel" :) [11:10] hal [11:11] just ask hal for all devices that are tagged removabe, then check if they are usb [11:12] Probably want to display the volume name as well, for those with persistant USB connections to stuff. [11:12] volume name only [11:12] How about auto-unmounting it as well, as nautilus will auto-mount [11:12] i dont want /dev/something exposed to users :) [11:12] I don't like volume name only: I've a couple keys with the same volume name, but track which I connected last. [11:12] (probably in brackets behind the name, but not as default) [11:13] not sure you ever used my cmpc installer ... :) [11:13] That works: cater to both classes of user, with /dev-aware as second-class [11:13] but i would just take the code i use there [11:13] Nope: I don't have a cmpc [11:14] it should roughly work on every celeron with intel graphics (roughly as in you will have probs with wlan etc because thats customized) [11:14] Should the cmpc build work on the SR8, or is it too HW specific to even boot? [11:14] i tried it on the Q1 :) and it worked fine [11:14] at the last sprint [11:14] I'll give it a try this weekend then. [11:15] well, its supposed to go away anyway at some point in favour of the actual UNR build ... but there is a lot code we cn surely reuse or modify for the intrepid pieces we need [11:16] atleast the image booted [11:16] ogra: Where is it? I don't see it on cdimages.u.c, and google isn't playing nice. [11:16] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/classmate/images/hardy/ [11:16] * persia should have guessed :) [11:16] its a bit outdated ... the one i'm working on will be ful lpia [11:17] That's OK. I'm more just curious about it, as some of it may be interesting, and you've added lots of hacks. [11:17] Just put on USB, and boot? [11:19] seems to not work [11:19] it has been in same point for 5 minutes [11:20] #attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 [11:20] and not writing hard disk [11:22] persia, xactly [11:24] what could be problem with this thingie? the SSD hard disk most propably? [11:25] LTSPTNK: Rather assumptions in the installer that you have exactly the right arrangement of hardware. [11:26] asac: Around? [11:26] You could mount the squashfs in loopback and hack it, but it won't install cleanly on your machine because of different device assignment. [11:26] and now one has customized this image for EEE PC? [11:26] ^^no one [11:31] LTSPTNK: There've been a few Eee users in the channel, but I've not seen any specific reports about what customisation is required. [11:32] many of them used atom based devices afaik [11:33] yeah, problem is that here far in the north where Linux was born, everything arrives 6 months later and costs like hell [11:33] so that why I'm having 701 now :( [11:40] any EEE PC users here? [11:44] any advices what should i do with the Image Creator thingies? [11:45] lool: how can i serve you? [11:49] asac: I just wanted to tell you that I ported evolution-rss to xulrunner 1.9's libxul-embedding :) [11:49] lool: hah [11:50] asac: Following yesterday's theory, I applied it on evolution-rss and got it to build then to not crash [11:50] asac: So thanks again :) [11:51] asac: The last xulrunner 1.9 thing I'm more or less tracking is the mbf one [11:51] asac: Do you think you could dig a tree with it? [11:51] asac: I'd love to close this upstream and in hardy [11:52] lool: whats the current state in hardy? [11:52] (to stop having to use and test xulrunner 1.8 apps) [11:52] asac: Current state is we are using an old mbf which is 1.8 [11:52] its manually patched in the package? or not ported at all [11:52] hmm [11:52] It's not ported at all [11:52] didnt you upload something? [11:52] I would prefer a new upstream release of mbf [11:52] No, I tested it [11:52] ok, so you just uploaded to PPA? [11:52] ah [11:52] No [11:53] First, it was around UME release and we had other things in the pipe, and I thought upstream would respond quickly [11:53] Second, the changes were quite intrusive and we didn't have a patch system or anything to track changes [11:53] so doing it downstream would have required many cleanups, adding a patch system then adding the intrusive changes [11:53] lool: ok. I'll look where those bits are and how much i need to reshape them ;) [11:53] asac: Cool [11:53] then push to alioth ;) [11:53] hehe [11:54] asac: I would say the top notch thing for upstream would a git tree derived from their master with the last bits of xulrunner 1.9 support as individual commits [11:55] asac: If you like to look at evolution-rss, it's at svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-evolution/unstable/evolution-rss [11:55] asac: It might be crashing on exit, but I don't care too much about that [11:55] asac: One thing which was different is that the profile path was setup first thing, and this crashes with xulrunner 1.9 [11:55] Moving it later fixed this crash [11:56] lool: yes makes sense [11:56] you cannot use any embedding symbols until GRE is booted [11:56] as they all point to 0x0 [11:56] ;)= [11:57] lool: why does it crash on exit? [11:57] lool: if you use startup_push (not always required), you also need startup_pop on shutdown [11:57] asac: I didn't check whether this was done properly [11:57] ok [11:57] asac: It might be an unrelated crash [11:57] most likely not [11:58] I'll tell you in a sec [11:58] Ah it's not unrelated, sorry [11:58] asac: Oh ok, makes sense for the not booted use of symbols [11:58] asac: Concerning the crash on exit, I'll look at it later, hopefully this afternoon [11:59] It was using startup_push() before my changes already [11:59] I confirmed that disabling the RSS plugin prevents the crash on exit, but I don't know whether it's an historical bug in the rss plugin [11:59] The code has tons and tons of warnings, some scary one [11:59] s [12:00] There's a gtk_moz_embed_pop_startup (); [12:00] in gecko_shutdown() [12:01] #ifdef HAVE_BUGGY_GECKO [12:01] if (2 == render) [12:01] system("killall -SIGTERM evolution"); [12:01] #else [12:01] gecko_shutdown(); [12:01] #endif [12:01] //really find a better way to deal with this// [12:01] //I do not know how to shutdown gecko (gtk_moz_embed_pop_startup) [12:01] //crash in nsCOMPtr_base::assign_with_AddRef [12:01] asac: See what I meant :) [12:02] That's only set if test "x$GECKO" == "xfirefox" fortunately [12:05] fortunately? === Zic is now known as Zic`Angine === Zic`Angine is now known as Zic [12:42] asac: Well at least we're not in that case is what I meant [12:43] ok [12:44] hi [12:44] just heard about the MID...can we embed this system in to smartphone? [12:45] TuxOne: Maybe, if your smartphone is sufficiently powerful, and you have a dialer app. [12:46] hmm [12:46] The target for the recent release was the 4-6" handheld segment, but much of the code may also be used in other applications. [12:47] Does it run as a VM? something similar to j2me? [12:48] It runs on the device directly. There are VM images available for preview on a desktop system. [12:48] could you please send me the link? [12:49] ah...i got it === emgent_ is now known as emgent === asac_ is now known as asac [22:43] bonjour a tous [22:43] je cherche des gadgets avec ubuntu dedans est ce que ca existe ?