[00:00] <lenix_> i hope you understand :P
[00:00] <Forest> imaginator: my firefox doesn't show java though
[00:00] <Fryguy--> lenix_: well you'll have to update /etc/network/interfaces so that eth1 gets an IP, and then you'll have to add a static route to the routing table for it
[00:00] <Cew27> anyone looking for a forum that isnt overcrowded join www.linux-forums.co.uk
[00:00] <imaginator> Forest: ok.  What does ls -l list for the libjavaplugin_oji.so?    Does that path exist?
[00:00] <rizkhan> hi
[00:00] <Forest> imaginator: wait, is the link directly to the libjava thing?
[00:00] <Fryguy--> lenix_: to go alongside the default route to your adsl modem, otherwise you'll be on 2 separate subnets that won't be able to communicate
[00:00] <imaginator> Forest: yes
[00:01] <Forest> imaginator: because currently it is in the /ns7 folder
[00:01] <lenix_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/m1f85472f  .. here is my hosts file
[00:01] <rizkhan> i have a small question regarding ubuntu
[00:01] <rizkhan> if anyone coudl help
[00:01] <Fryguy--> rizkhan: ask a question, don't ask to ask
[00:01] <Forest> imaginator: i'll fix that right now
[00:01] <xhuangzi> rizkhan, Don't ask to to ask
[00:02] <xhuangzi> beat me to it
[00:02] <rizkhan> is there a way to specify if i want to run an applicaiton on cpu2 if have a dual core system
[00:02] <Storrgie> Jack_Sparrow: ever setup raid?
[00:02] <rizkhan> i can compile using -j
[00:02] <Fryguy--> rizkhan: why not just allow linux to manage processes for you?  It's going to do a better job of managing cpu resources than you will
[00:02] <xhuangzi> rizkhan yes
[00:02] <imaginator> rizkhan: the taskset program
[00:02] <s3a> do feature suggestions go into brainstorm or elsewhere?
[00:03] <protractor> no patch/new package for LICQ?
[00:03] <matthew__> how can I change the default program that runs when I insert a Music Player?
[00:03] <lenix_> Fryguy--, please be a bit patient with me, im still all new to the stuff.. here is my /etc/network http://pastebin.com/m54ade14b
[00:03] <Fryguy--> protractor: no
[00:03] <boogieman> sup dudes, i need some little help ..... i have ubuntu 8.04 with the latests wine, i ran utorrent.exe  and it runs ok, (i've been downloading and the stuff is ok), but whenever i ran it, the executable dissapears.... i.e. /home/user/utorrent/utorrent.exe <-- disappears i can no longer find it and firefox does not list ... what could possibly be going on here ?
[00:03] <lenix_> can you tell me what to do exactly ?
[00:03] <pulse00> hi all. very strange problem here: when changing the display mode in the ati control center to "BigDesktop", xorg switches into that mode, also the xorg.conf is changed. but after a restart, my second monitor is simply a clone of the first again.
[00:03] <rizkhan> well .. m running 2 Open dynamic engine apps ..  n the other cpu is idle .. so want to use that
[00:03] <Terabyte> hey, on ssh, how can i search for a file (say i know its called home.php)
[00:03] <EagleScreen> if i compile and install a new gspca driver will it replace the default gspca in Ubuntu??
[00:03] <Fryguy--> lenix_: you'll have to add eth1 to that list, should just be able to do auto eth1
[00:04] <supertanker> How can I put ubuntu on my flash drive?
[00:04] <bazhang> !usb
[00:04] <supertanker> Do I have to restart my computer and run through the installer, or can I just put the live image on it somehow?
[00:04] <Fryguy--> supertanker: http://www.google.com/search?q=how+can+i+put+ubuntu+on+my+flash+drive&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[00:04] <protractor> Fryguy: when it will released?
[00:05] <lukuspukus> matthew__, system - preferences - preferred applications
[00:05] <lenix_> ok Fryguy-- , i added auto eth1 to that file
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> supertanker pendrivelinux.com
[00:05] <Fryguy--> protractor: no idea, this is ubuntu, not #licq, go talk to the developers of the software and see if they are working on it
[00:05] <imaginator> EagleScreen: I'm not sure.  I would think make install might.  You can see in the Makefile for gspca (which IIRC is a camera driver set).
[00:05] <protractor> ok thx
[00:05] <Fryguy--> lenix_: k, now sudo dhclient eth1
[00:05] <Forest> imaginator: it is working, thanks
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> protractor the patch is done just waiting for testing
[00:05] <Eric7> configure: error: pangocairo >= 1.16 is required to build swfdec....
[00:05] <imaginator> Forest: you're welcome :)
[00:05] <boogieman> sup dudes, i need some little help ..... i have ubuntu 8.04 with the latests wine, i ran utorrent.exe  and it runs ok, (i've been downloading and the stuff is ok), but whenever i ran it, the executable dissapears.... i.e. /home/user/utorrent/utorrent.exe <-- disappears i can no longer find it and firefox does not list ... what could possibly be going on here ?  ALSO if i copy it back to the folder, still disappear after runing it...
[00:06] <Eric7> at least i guess im closer
[00:06] <Eric7> lol...
[00:06] <Fryguy--> Eric7: so find/upgrade pangocairo
[00:06] <wgato> i am trying to install from a livecd but the partitioner doesnt see my sata drive (its new not been used before)
[00:06] <supertanker> Thanks Fryguy--
[00:06] <ks3> Terabyte, check out the find command
[00:06] <EagleScreen> is it possible remove the current gspca driver from Ubuntu?
[00:06] <Fryguy--> wgato: does your bios see the drive
[00:06] <Tux2K8> I want to install pidgin 2.4.3 on 7.10 , how do I find what dependencies do I need to install in order for it to work????
[00:07] <ariqs> ok, how do I upgrade just pidgen with apt-get? sudo apt-get update pidgin tries to make me update everything
[00:07] <Fryguy--> Tux2K8: .debs track dependencies for you
[00:07] <Tux2K8> I dont use debs...
[00:07] <rizkhan> cant seem to find taskset ..
[00:07] <Tux2K8> no 2.4.3 deb for 7.10
[00:07] <Fryguy--> ariqs: any reason you don't just update everything
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Tux2K8 it will be uphill battle
[00:07] <supertanker> ariqs: Isn't it upgrade, not update?
[00:07] <Eric7> apt-cache search pangocairo
[00:07] <Eric7> nothing found...
[00:07] <supertanker> ariqs: update iirc updates apt otse;f
[00:07] <Gazingson> hi
[00:07] <wgato> fryguy:  i think so.  the bios on this new mb only lets me change the boot options and hard drive is listed and when i chose it, it reports no OS found
[00:07] <ariqs> yeah, it is upgrade actually, my bad. But that's what I had tried. I just typed it wrong in here.
[00:07] <rizkhan> got it .. thanks fryguy
[00:07] <Eric7> should i search for pango lol?
[00:07] <Fryguy--> Eric7: seriously, use some common sense here, the same thing has happened to you 3x now and you haven't figured out what you need to do yet?
[00:07] <ariqs> Fryguy: I can't possibly download all that nonsense on dialup
[00:07] <supertanker> itself*
[00:08] <Gazingson> how do i download programs made for windows
[00:08] <Gazingson> ?
[00:08] <Fryguy--> !wine | Gazingson
[00:08] <Tux2K8> Jack_Sparrow : well  I dont have any other way to do it.... on 7.10
[00:08] <Terabyte> ks3 only ever seems to find it in the directory where its located
[00:08] <Fryguy--> ariqs: you really should
[00:09] <ariqs> not happening.
[00:09] <Fryguy--> ariqs: anyways, just use apt-get upgdate and then apt-get install pidgin
[00:09] <Eric7> guile-gnome0-gtk - Guile bindings for GTK+, libglade, Pango and ATK?
[00:09] <lenix__> Fryguy--, I got disconnected for a while after I added that line to the interfaces file
[00:09] <lenix__> ;/
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Tux2K8 You wont get it done the way you are trying
[00:09] <ariqs> thanks
[00:09] <ks3> Terabyte, In the directory you run it from? You can tell it where to search... find /path/to/start/search home.php
[00:09] <Tux2K8> Jack_Sparrow:  what ur saying is : no 2.4.3 for 7.10?
[00:09] <imaginator> wgato: you might try seeing in a terminal if dmesg lists your sata drive.  There should also be a way to do that with the live cd too, perhaps via the System menu
[00:10] <Eric7> libpango1.0-dev - Development files for the Pango?
[00:10] <Eric7> sound good?
[00:10] <guillaume> please help someone that has no sound sine last update.. :(
[00:10] <ariqs> Fryguy: is my current configure going be replaced and i'll lose my accounts?
[00:10] <Fryguy--> Eric7: no
[00:10] <Eric7> >.<
[00:10] <Fryguy--> ariqs: no
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Tux2K8 certainly not right away or as soon as the hardy version
[00:10] <quio> Hi.  I am using Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10  The other day when I turned on my Dell d510 laptop my wireless connection would not turn on.  It seems to turn off when the OS boots up.  The only way to get it working is to hit the Fn key and F1.  This however makes the laptop reboot on on boot up the wireless works.  Is there a config file I need to adjust to tell the os to turn on the wireless on boot?
[00:11] <guillaume> I dont understand why the song wont just start
[00:11] <Eric7> python-cairo-dev - Python cairo bindings: development files?
[00:11] <lenix__> should I restart after adding eth1 auto ?
[00:11] <xfls> can someone tell me how to set konversation text charset to cp1251?
[00:12] <Fryguy--> guillaume: probably using wrong sound infrastructre, review your sound configuration and make sure everything is working.  If you are playing back sound as a user, make sure your user is part of the right groups to enable access to the sound device
[00:12] <Fryguy--> Eric7: probably
[00:12] <Eric7> k ^^
[00:13] <ariqs> Fryguy: it says pidgin is already the newest version still
[00:13] <lenix__> I still can't ping 192.168.0.1 , any suggestion ? :S
[00:13] <guillaume> Fryguy: when I do a sound test
[00:13] <guillaume> nothing
[00:13] <Fryguy--> ariqs: then the newest version isn't in hardy yet, you can get it from getdeb.lnet if you want
[00:13] <Fryguy--> guillaume: well you need to resolve that before you go screwing around with media players
[00:13] <imaginator> guillaume: what type of sound card are you using?  does lspci list it?
[00:13] <brandano> ariqs: there was an article on slashdot today saying that the ICQ network has started refusing alternative clients
[00:13] <Fryguy--> guillaume: try using a different mixer device or something
[00:13] <boogieman> sup dudes, i need some little help ..... i have ubuntu 8.04 with the latests wine, i ran utorrent.exe  and it runs ok, (i've been downloading and the stuff is ok), but whenever i ran it, the executable dissapears.... i.e. /home/user/utorrent/utorrent.exe <-- disappears i can no longer find it and firefox does not list ... what could possibly be going on here ?  ALSO if i copy it back to the folder, still disappear after runing it...
[00:14] <joshual> I haven't tried to use synthesizer apps for many years, but I remmember way back when being able to use pretty powerful apps (cakewalk etc) on my now way way old machine (and windows). Now (as then) I have a pretty decent machine for the times, but when I attempt (at least in linux, havent tried in windows (dont have it installed)) to use these types of apps its a pain because i get breaking...
[00:14] <joshual> ...up and sound problems like crackling etc...
[00:14] <Fryguy--> boogieman: how are you running it
[00:14] <guillaume> lol it was working great before hardy
[00:14] <Eric7> checking for PANGO... no configure: error: pangocairo >= 1.16 is required to build swfdec
[00:14] <ariqs> brandano: purposely, or just because they are changing protocols?
[00:14] <Fryguy--> guillaume: yes, and the sound infrastructure completely changed when upgrading to hardy
[00:14] <AMLNXUSR> Can anyone recommend and compiler tool i can use on .tar.bz files?
[00:14] <brandano> purposely, it sems
[00:15] <Eric7> so i guess i need pango dev files?
[00:15] <boogieman> like this http://news.softpedia.com/news/uTorrent-under-Ubuntu-in-3-Easy-Steps-49037.shtml
[00:15] <brandano> But that's me, always expecting the worse from people
[00:15] <boogieman> i created a executable @ the desktop
[00:15] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: a tar.bz2 file is a compressed tarball, you use tar -xjf to decompress it
[00:15] <ariqs> fryguy: getdeb says to remove my current version before installing new version..
[00:15] <imaginator> joshual: that may be a driver issue, unfortunately.  What sound system is the program using?
[00:15] <guillaume> I think that even if the device would not be corectly config the song would still "play"
[00:15] <Fryguy--> ariqs: so then do that
[00:15] <boogieman> but whenever i run it, the executable from the folder disappears
[00:15] <tqc> hello
[00:15] <boogieman> hello
[00:15] <ariqs> fryguy: then I'll lose my account data won't i?
[00:15] <Fryguy--> ariqs: no
[00:15] <joshual> imaginator: apparently most of the ones i want to use are jack
[00:16] <joshual> use jack
[00:16] <BLAHLOL32> how do i format my thumbdrive?
[00:16] <tqc> anyone know how to fix the problem with videos appearing like on negative film?
[00:16] <AMLNXUSR> ok thnx fryguy
[00:16] <quio> Hello everyone.  I am using Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10  The other day when I turned on my Dell d510 laptop my wireless connection would not turn on.  It seems to turn off when the OS boots up.  The only way to get it working is to hit the Fn key and F1.  This however makes the laptop reboot on and when it boots up again the wireless works.  If I shut down and start it up again it is off.  Is there a config file I need to adjust to tell the os to t
[00:16] <quio> urn on the wireless on boot?
[00:16] <alphaman1101> my cd drive is messing up and wont open i dont know why. Is there a command that i can force it to open?
[00:16] <satan_> hello everyone
[00:16] <brandano> ariqs: you should be able to back it up, but in any case I doubt it gets removed with the program?
[00:16] <Fryguy--> tgc: using mplayer?
[00:16] <tqc> mplayer, totem, anything, ubuntu 8.10
[00:16] <imaginator> guillaume: let's start from the bottom up.  First see if the device has a driver attached to it successfully.  You might try dmesg or lspci to look for your sound card.
[00:17] <Fryguy--> ariqs: it will only get removed if you use purge
[00:17] <satan_> any idea why the frequency on my cores scales down by itself, even though i'm using the userspace governor
[00:17] <satan_> could it be overheating? my laptop is super hot
[00:17] <ariqs> k
[00:17] <Fryguy--> satan_: you probably have scaling enabled in your bios
[00:17] <Fryguy--> most modern laptops have it enabled by default to save power and prevent overheating
[00:17] <satan_> Fryguy--: i thought i had to have that enabled?
[00:17] <satan_> oh
[00:17] <tqc> i removed totem-gstreamer, one guy said to me it could help, but nothing happend
[00:17] <rizkhan> my laptop gets too hot when using ubuntu .. its not that hot in windows .. n i cant get the sensors too work
[00:18] <ali_> any1 use bluefish here?
[00:18] <satan_> Fryguy--: so you mean it can do power management without bios support for it?
[00:18] <tqc> strange thing is that i have thumbnails of movies in normal coloures
[00:18] <rizkhan> ali_: i do
[00:18] <Fryguy--> satan_: yes
[00:18] <ali_> can u help me with sometin on it
[00:18] <mroussel> irc://irc.rizon.net/infidel
[00:18] <satan_> Fryguy--: hmm i didnt know that, ok i'll try it, thanks
[00:18] <rizkhan> ali_: just ask
[00:18] <ali_> alrite
[00:18] <brandano> ariqs: actually, yesterday's news: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/02/1331224
[00:19] <Storrgie> anyone use OSS?
[00:19] <ali_> i am not able to view my code in bluefish how can i see how he design of my html code is
[00:19] <Fryguy--> Storrgie: ?
[00:19] <tqc> i've searched the google and forum's to fix that, and nothing
[00:19] <ali_> like in dreamwaver
[00:19] <ALPSINC> hello all
[00:19] <Storrgie> Fryguy--: i dunno how to configute oss to do digital out
[00:19] <ali_> and other programs
[00:19] <Fryguy--> Storrgie: oss is long since deprecated
[00:19] <ALPSINC> how can I get rid of the "mail status" when I log in to my ssh
[00:19] <rizkhan> ali_: there is no preview pane .. ull have to view it using html
[00:19] <Fryguy--> Storrgie: use alsa or pulseaudio instead
[00:19] <ALPSINC> it's rathor annoying >.>
[00:20] <shingalated> Fryguy: Still not working, was I just supposed to add "NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.138 " to the virtual hosts?
[00:20] <ali_> wats do u mean ?
[00:20] <rizkhan> ali_: using any browser
[00:20] <Eric7> checking for GTK... no configure: error: Couldn't find a suitable Gtk version. You need at least version 2.8.0 i know ive asked things like this but what type of gtk is it talking about O.o?
[00:20] <Fryguy--> ALPSINC: check to see if it's in your .bash_profile or .bashrc
[00:20] <ali_> o
[00:20] <ali_> thats doesn't work for me either
[00:20] <Storrgie> Fryguy--: but OSS supports my XFi card
[00:20] <Storrgie> grr
[00:20] <Fryguy--> shingalated: to one of them, yes
[00:20] <ALPSINC> Fryguy--: will check
[00:20] <ali_> i clicked view in borwser and nothign happens
[00:20] <shingalated> when I restart apache it says: [Thu Jul 03 19:18:37 2008] [warn] VirtualHost site1.info:0 overlaps with VirtualHost site2.info:0, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive
[00:20] <imaginator> Eric7: you need a gtk dev package most likely
[00:20] <Eric7> what kind?
[00:20] <mistergibson> anyone know how to *properly* do network bridging ... urls welcome
[00:20] <rizkhan> ali_: what do u mean, no code ?
[00:20] <Fryguy--> Eric7: libgtk-2.0-dev
[00:20] <shingalated> yeah I only added it to site1
[00:20] <ali_> no nothing happens
[00:20] <guillaume> imaginator: I got Intel HD
[00:20] <ali_> firefox doesn't come up
[00:21] <rizkhan> ali_: open the file in browser ..
[00:21] <guillaume> lol, did even knew... it 2year old laptop
[00:21] <guillaume> http://pastebin.org/48361
[00:21] <rizkhan> ali: if html is ok, it wil ldisply
[00:21] <ali_> i can do it myself but in bluefish when i click view in browser it doesn't work
[00:22] <Eric7> k tyvm gtg for now Happy 4th of July ^^
[00:22] <guillaume> well, it's stange but it works now
[00:22] <Fryguy--> shingalated: yes
[00:23] <ALPSINC> Fryguy--: it's not there
[00:23] <ALPSINC> Fryguy--: nor in the system wide ones
[00:23] <AMLNXUSR> "<Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: a tar.bz2 file is a compressed tarball, you use tar -xjf to d"  FryGuy once i decommpress do i still need a compiler to install the app?
[00:23] <shingalated> fryguy: I only had it on one.
[00:23] <Fryguy--> ALPSINC: dunno where it checks then, sorry
[00:23] <graft> are there any well-documented free mp3 decoding libraries (besides libmad0)?
[00:23] <ALPSINC> np
[00:23] <joshual> anyone know if its possible to get jack working on a default ubuntu install?
[00:23] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: depends what's in the tarball lol
[00:23] <rizkhan> ali_: add it to browsers using edit preferences
[00:24] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: and why aren't you just using the ubuntu repositories
[00:24] <ali_> k lemme try
[00:24] <imaginator> guillaume: ok, so we're one step further.  It sees the device.  Obviously it attached too.  That's strange.  Any clue as to why it wasn't working before?
[00:24] <AMLNXUSR> its alsa for my sound drivers
[00:24] <ali_> what tab can i fidn that in
[00:24] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: and what makes you think you need to install a new version of alsa ?
[00:24] <ALPSINC> does anyone else know how to get rid of the mail status when you login?
[00:24] <guillaume> It was on autodetec
[00:24] <AMLNXUSR> cuz i cant get my sound to work
[00:24] <scsi2> Hi guys. Anybody know if I can burn a CD in Ubuntu Live? Can I just take the Live CD out?
[00:24] <Tux2K8> did anyone here successfully upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04???
[00:25] <imaginator> Tux2K8: yes.  I upgraded recently.
[00:25] <wgato> imaginator:  i've looked through dmesg and dont see any mention of sda.  and its not in Computer - File Browser either
[00:25] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: upgrading alsa almost certainly isn't going to help that
[00:25] <xhuangzi> Hm... can you burn CD's with a live CD?
[00:25] <guillaume> I changed for the right one
[00:25] <ph8> i'm looking for a really basic, secure http server to run on a non-standard port and just support PHP - do i need to install full apache?
[00:25] <xhuangzi> Doesn't seem like you could.
[00:25] <AMLNXUSR> so what will?
[00:25] <Fryguy--> ph8: apache, lighthttpd, and nginx are popular choices
[00:25] <AMLNXUSR> iv tried everything i can think of
[00:25] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: well what specifically is the problem, and what have you done to resolve it?
[00:25] <imaginator> wgato: I'm not sure if sata shows up as scsi/sda.  I don't have any sata devices.  are there any disks detected?
[00:25] <ali_> wat r some other webdevelopment prgrams for ubuntu
[00:26] <guillaume> AMLNXUSR
[00:26] <supertanker> Hah
[00:26] <guillaume> i was here for the same thing
[00:26] <guillaume> it's working now
[00:26] <supertanker> I'm trying to fit Xubuntu on a 1GB Flash Drive
[00:26] <Fryguy--> ali_: any reasonable text editor will do a fine job.  I recommend vim for development purposes
[00:26] <PossibleBit> ali_: use gedit, it should have html highlighting.
[00:26] <AMLNXUSR> well like i said no sound .. i played around with the mixer and sound options .. and checked out forums that had some good tips but nothing worked for me
[00:26] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: what sound card do you ahve
[00:26] <ali_> alrite but nay really good and fancy ones liek drweamweaver
[00:27] <AMLNXUSR> soundblasters audigy
[00:27] <Fryguy--> ali_: dreamweaver is awful as an html editor
[00:27] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: which model?
[00:27] <ali_> no!
[00:27] <Fryguy--> audigy? audigy2? audigy4?
[00:27] <ALPSINC> anyone else?
[00:27] <guillaume> AMLNXUSR: did u test the card in system/preference/sound <?^
[00:27] <ali_> well...yea
[00:27] <supertanker> ALPSINC!
[00:27] <PossibleBit> hmm wysiwyg editors, eh?
[00:27] <AMLNXUSR> i think it is zx or zs
[00:27] <Fryguy--> ali_: it spits out terrible, non-valid html that is a maintenance nightmare
[00:27] <ALPSINC> oh noes >....>
[00:27] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: what number?
[00:27] <joshual> i installed ubuntustudio once, not too long ago and it really didnt feel very stable
[00:27] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: 1, 2, or 4?
[00:27] <imaginator> Tux2K8: I had one problem with the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, but I worked it out.  It was from some libraries I installed for XF4VNC in /usr/local/lib conflicting and being used instead of /usr/lib's newer libpixman.
[00:27] <wgato> imaginator:  jsut the CD drive, as far as i can tell.  in the Computer File Browser, it shows CD-Rom and Filesystem
[00:27] <gaintsura> PossibleBit: those are evil
[00:27] <joshual> in comparisson to regular ubuntu
[00:27] <AMLNXUSR> oh
[00:27] <AMLNXUSR> 1
[00:28] <rizkhan> ali: u r looking for wusiwug type of tools ?
[00:28] <imaginator> wgato: is it possible that the drive is defective, or that you have the selector on slave when it should be master or something like that?
[00:28] <ali_> i jus wana confirm u guys had problems with dreamweaver to rite when the design isn't wat its sopouse to be
[00:28] <PossibleBit> ali_: you could try looking at Amaya
[00:28] <PossibleBit> gaintsura: I know
[00:28] <ali_> is it good
[00:28] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: is it configured to be using the digital output by default by any chance?  have you checked in alsamixer?
[00:28] <PossibleBit> I haven't even the slightest clue
[00:28] <EagleScreen> how can i disable Ubuntu default gspca driver?
[00:29] <PossibleBit> since I don't use wysiwyg editors
[00:29] <AMLNXUSR> i have but cant find any digital/analog option
[00:29] <EagleScreen> it is for install another gspca
[00:29] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: it might have some weird name
[00:29] <wgato> imaginator:  its is possible that the drive is bad.  unfortunately i have no way to test it, but it is brand new.  i'll open it up and double check the jumpers
[00:29] <AMLNXUSR> iv turned on and off every option there
[00:29] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: enable all of the views in mixer, it'll be like IECxxx
[00:29] <StevenX> hello all, I am trying out KDE to see how it is, but I can't seem to get compiz-fusion to start on it. Is there anything that I need to do?
[00:29] <AMLNXUSR> k let me try that
[00:29] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: are you using gnome-alsamixer?
[00:30] <keen> is there a common place that programs store their icons or a way to find out where they are?
[00:31] <Fryguy--> keen: /usr/share/icons
[00:31] <xhuangzi> keen, search for .ico
[00:31] <ALPSINC> anyone at all? i just need to know how to disable the mail status thing in terminal (when you login)
[00:31] <Fryguy--> xhuangzi: most icons aren't .ico in linux, they are .xpm and png
[00:31] <keen> i'll do that, thanks
[00:32] <AMLNXUSR> how do i find out if im useing gnome mixer?
[00:32] <khaotik> i was trying to load virtual box on 8.04 and when i try to run it a message said i do not have permissions to access the folder that i stored the virtual hard drive on??
[00:32] <Tux2K8> well im giving a try to the updater ... will update now from 7.10 to 8.04 , cant a afford a clearn fresh install now.... (I have backed up)
[00:32] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: rung gnome-alsamixer from command line
[00:32] <Fryguy--> or just alsamixer and work on the cli version
[00:32] <AMLNXUSR> k
[00:32] <AMLNXUSR> i waasn't doing that b4
[00:33] <khaotik> why do i get that message
[00:33] <AMLNXUSR> nvm i was using alsamixer from cli
[00:33] <iratsu> if i'm string my GPG key on an encrypted filesystem is there any reason for my passphrase to the filesystem to be different from my GPG passphrase?
[00:33] <Fryguy--> khaotik: where did you put the virtual hard drive
[00:33] <AMLNXUSR> iv turned all the available options on
[00:33] <StevenX> can anyone help me get compiz-fusion started on KDE?
[00:33] <Tux2K8> I wonder , I use netbeans 6.1 in 7.10 , should it work as is after the upgrade to 8.04?
[00:33] <Tux2K8> (installed from source)
[00:33] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: you probably have to turn one OFF
[00:34] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: open up an app that plays sound and toggle the buttons until it works
[00:34] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: and make sure your volume isn't muted or something stupid
[00:34] <AMLNXUSR> k let me try
[00:34] <alphaman1101> how can i tell if my laptop cd-rom needs to be replaced
[00:35] <Fryguy--> alphaman1101: if you put a CD in, does it play :)
[00:36] <keen> hmm ok...well i found one of the icons i was looking for....maybe i'm looking in the wrong spot tho.  i'm using awn and songbird had a little black bird icon....i can't find that, anyone know where it would be
[00:36] <keen> i did find the egg icon tho
[00:36] <Fryguy--> keen: you can probably right click on the icon and configure it, and then see where it's currently coming from
[00:37] <genewitch> How do i get out of an xsession in ubuntu gnome so i can install the nVidia drivers?
[00:37] <dominic_> 0.-
[00:37] <hammerz> .cc
[00:37] <dominic_> kill command?
[00:37] <Fryguy--> genewitch: why can't you just install them from withing X?
[00:37] <mistergibson> genewitch: I was able to just install the drivers and restart
[00:37] <tiglionabbit> oh no.  I'm in mid install and I'm getting "buffer I/O error on device sr0" messages on console
[00:37] <keen> Fryguy-- it takes me to my home folder =(...i just wanna keep that icon witha  different theme =(
[00:37] <genewitch> Fryguy--: It says "you have an xsession running, please close and retry
[00:37] <foolz> I have a question - what do I do if I want to connect to a Windows computer on my LAN (running Windows Vista) and I have to use a Windows account without a password to connect? it seems like Ubuntu requires me to enter a password anyway
[00:37] <keen> i'll keep searching
[00:37] <stdin> genewitch: use the ubuntu package
[00:37] <dominic_> D:
[00:37] <knokkels> Fryguy--, : Just looked at dmesg in a terminal, this is what it comes up with: ALSA /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-rt/sound/alsa-driver/usb/usbaudio.c:1345: 3:2:1: usb_set_interface failed
[00:37] <stdin> !nvidia | genewitch
[00:37] <Fryguy--> genewitch: why aren't you installing the nvidia driver from the repository
[00:38] <genewitch> stdin: doesn't work
[00:38] <Xcaliber009> is there a way to download files from the internet on ubuntu server?
[00:38] <mreyebrows> how so?
[00:38] <mreyebrows> did it stop installing half way through or what?
[00:38] <genewitch> Fryguy--: i have a 9600gt, i had to do it from nvidia's site last time
[00:38] <tiglionabbit> what can I do?
[00:38] <rizkhan> Xcaliber009: use wget
[00:38] <Xcaliber009> rizkhan: wget <path>?
[00:38] <genewitch> Also, the synaptic update manager thing said it updated my nvidia kernel source and settings, but when i rebooted i don't have any graphics capability...
[00:39] <Fryguy--> genewitch: anything wrong with these directions: http://adamspotton.com/node/1
[00:39] <mreyebrows> graphic capabilities?
[00:39] <mreyebrows> like compiz?
[00:39] <genewitch> Like 800x600 75hz generic video card
[00:39] <mreyebrows> oh
[00:39] <rizkhan> Xcaliber009: should be /usr/bin
[00:39] <mreyebrows> D:
[00:39] <genewitch> and no nVidia splash screen like i had right before i ran the update manager
[00:39] <mreyebrows> i just remembered
[00:39] <mreyebrows> i have to fix my monitor
[00:39] <mreyebrows> splash screen lol
[00:40] <Tripsev> Any Zenoss users here that can help me?
[00:40] <mreyebrows> i remember when i used to have on
[00:40] <mistergibson> I'm using an nv15 GeForce-GTS with xgl .. compiz and all on nVidia legacy drivers
[00:40] <mistergibson> can't do much more than that, but it works
[00:40] <genewitch> fryguy: i think your link will work
[00:40] <mreyebrows> did you just install the the new nivida card?
[00:40] <AMLNXUSR> no my volume isn't muted.. in my volume contols my audigy 2 is listed and eveyrthing looks to be in order.  but no sound.. is there a music app u recommend?
[00:40] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: quodlibet
[00:40] <mreyebrows> totem ftw
[00:40] <genewitch> mreyebrows: no, and i did it with the nvidia binary a couple of months ago, and it worked great. but i think fryguy's link will help
[00:41] <mreyebrows> binary?
[00:41] <mreyebrows> you mean you compiled it?
[00:41] <Fryguy--> mreyebrows: nvidia drivers are closed source
[00:41] <mreyebrows> D:
[00:41] <mreyebrows> my bad
[00:41] <Fryguy--> mreyebrows: which is why they are on the restricted drivers list instead of being installed by default on ubuntu systems
[00:41] <mreyebrows> i dont really follow graphics card
[00:41] <Fryguy--> mreyebrows: neither do i
[00:42] <mreyebrows> well i feel pretty silly
[00:42] <genewitch> brb, gunna try these directions :-)
[00:42] <mreyebrows> D:
[00:42] <mreyebrows> 4chan is down
[00:42] <mreyebrows> run for the hills
[00:43] <Simulous> hey. Im kinda pulling my hair out here. VLC wont open. when nothing comes up. Its set to open with archive manager, ive remved it via synaptic package manager and reinstalled it. even removed it and installed it via the terminal and still it wont run. Ive also tried "Run Application" and no joy :(
[00:43] <Simulous> well*
[00:43] <Fryguy--> Simulous: try to run it from a terminal and see if it reports any debugging information when you try to run it
[00:43] <mreyebrows> it just wont open?
[00:44] <mreyebrows> no error or anything when you try?
[00:44] <Tripsev> Can anyone assist me with a few Zenoss questions?
[00:44] <Fryguy--> Tripsev: ask a question, don't ask to ask
[00:44] <Simulous> just tried that and terminal window opened for a brief second then closed
[00:44] <Fryguy--> ?
[00:44] <Simulous> Nope nothing
[00:44] <Tripsev> K... Does Zenoss have the ability to remote manage a PC via VNC?
[00:44] <Simulous> no messaged
[00:44] <Fryguy--> Simulous: open the terminal window, and then type vlc
[00:44] <foolz> I haven't been on 4chan in a while - still descending into a depressing pit of high-schoolery?
[00:45] <mreyebrows> you know it :D
[00:45] <Xcaliber009> ok question #2, how do i unzip a zip file? gzip is telling me .zip is an invalid suffix
[00:45] <Fryguy--> gzip is used for .gz files, not .zip files
[00:45] <matti_> hallo - i*m testing Xchat
[00:45] <Fryguy--> use unzip for that
[00:45] <amenado> Xcaliber009-> you try using jar
[00:45] <rizkhan> Xcaliber: unzip
[00:45] <Simulous> GLib-GObject-ERROR **: g_type_plugin_*() invalidly modified type `GtkMenu'  <------ results
[00:45] <Simulous> thanks for help by the way :)
[00:46] <Fryguy--> Simulous: you modified your gtk theme recently?
[00:46] <Simulous> Only used Ubuntu 2 weeks ..
[00:46] <foolz> If I am trying to connect from Ubuntu to a Windows Vista LAN computer account without a password, what do I enter into the password field after bringing up the Vista computer's files with the "connect to server" tab under "places" ?
[00:46] <mreyebrows> Question: how do i change my video cards output frequency
[00:46] <Simulous> Ive done a fair bit of fiddling yes.. compiz and themes ect
[00:46] <Simulous> :D
[00:47] <amenado> Tripsev-> you meant Xen ? you can manage the guest with vnc
[00:47] <mreyebrows> my montior keeps having a fit when i boot up
[00:47] <matti_> this programm is boring - i'm going off
[00:47] <mreyebrows> monitor*
[00:47] <mreyebrows> D:
[00:47] <rizkhan> fools: isnt ur windows passwd workig
[00:47] <Fryguy--> foolz: you need to change a group policy in vista for ntlm authentication for it to work with ubuntu
[00:47] <ali_> wats r some other webdevelopment programs next to bluefish and screem...( i donot like blue fish)
[00:47] <Tripsev> -->foolz Don't you need a password for RDP or VNC to work?
[00:47] <Fryguy--> ali_: use vim
[00:47] <foolz> fryguy--, thanks - what does "ntlm" stand for?
[00:47] <rizkhan> ali_: someone said amaya just a while ago
[00:48] <ali_> i hate that
[00:48] <ali_> its so messed up
[00:48] <Fryguy--> foolz: network lanman, the authentication scheme that smb uses
[00:48] <rizkhan> oh vim is awesome
[00:48] <rizkhan> use gvim istead :P
[00:48] <Fryguy--> http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4434907782.html
[00:48] <Fryguy--> foolz: ^^
[00:48] <foolz> trpsev, I'm not sure that those acronyms stand for (I'm a bit of a newb, sorry) but I don't think I need a password to access the account on another Windows computer
[00:48] <foolz> fryguy--, gotcha
[00:48] <Myrtti> ali_: kompozer
[00:49] <ali_> isn't that a browser?
[00:49] <GSaldana> can someone help me configure exim4 to send/recieve emails?
[00:49] <ali_> or is it a browser and a editor
[00:49] <Fryguy--> rizkhan: why use gvim instead of vim
[00:49] <rizkhan> he hates vim :P
[00:49] <GSaldana> i want to check email using gnus but i cant configure the mail agent
[00:49] <mreyebrows> fryguy
[00:49] <Tripsev> In my experience if you try to create a remote desktop connection to a PC without a password authentication can fail
[00:50] <Fryguy--> rizkhan: vim is nicer because it runs on any machine, easier to remote, and to a lesser extent it takes up less resources and has better interactions with clipboard etc imo
[00:50] <ali_> i can't use vim
[00:50] <Fryguy--> ali_: why not
[00:50] <ali_> i typed it in the terminal and this other stuff in it coems up
[00:50] <ali_> not the program lie kother programs
[00:50] <Fryguy--> ali_: yes, take some time to learn it
[00:50] <rizkhan> Fryguy: u r right .. but as a start gvim is good for ppl coming from windows
[00:50] <ali_> ?
[00:50] <Tripsev> Can Zenoss provide remote management via VNC/RDP?
[00:50] <Myrtti> ali_: try komodo edit?
[00:51] <ali_> how do i use vim?
[00:51] <Fryguy--> ali_: type vim at the terminal and press enter
[00:52] <mannytu> !vim
[00:52] <wgato> hm sata drives dont have jumpers
[00:52] <amenado> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.4_i386.deb
[00:52] <amenado>   404 Not Found  <--luckily am not using samba..but..
[00:52] <mindquake> !html
[00:52] <Tripsev> Can Zenoss provide remote management / support via VNC/RDP?
[00:52] <genewitch> alright, that worked, thanks fryguy
[00:53] <genewitch> Fryguy--: *
[00:53] <amenado> !patience | Tripsev
[00:54] <Tripsev> Understood. Someone finally helping me in #Zenoss.
[00:54] <tiglionabbit> guys, I'm having a tough time installing ubuntu.  When it gets to 56% I start getting messages like "[  742.315909] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 117982"
[00:54] <SeaPhor> Tripsev, take a look here and see if it meets your needs,,, http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=37&Itemid=63
[00:54] <ali_> how do i unhinstall somethign from terminal sudo apt-remove (prgoram)?
[00:54] <Fryguy--> tiglionabbit: have you run a check on the cd to make sure it's good?
[00:55] <Fryguy--> ali_: yes
[00:55] <Fryguy--> ali_: no
[00:55] <Fryguy--> ali_: apt-get remove (program)
[00:55] <ali_> thats wierd?
[00:55] <Fryguy--> ali_: why?  the opposite of apt-get install is apt-get remove
[00:56] <ali_> but "get remove"
[00:56] <Fryguy--> you can type aptitude remove instead if it makes you feel better
[00:56] <mads-> Hi. I just turned my computer on.. And my X configuration is all messed because my screen and gfx driver could not be found..
[00:56] <ali_> sudo means root
[00:56] <ali_> liek adminstrator rite
[00:56] <Fryguy--> ali_: yes
[00:56] <ali_> wat is apt then?
[00:57] <Fryguy--> mads-: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:57] <Fryguy--> ali_: the package management system that ubuntu and other debian-based systems use
[00:57] <mads-> Fryguy--: But Ubuntu can't even find my gfx card anymore.. The driver was installed before, but not anymore :S
[00:57] <ali_> o yea apt
[00:57] <Fryguy--> mads-: so reinstall the driver
[00:57] <amenado> ali_ sudo does not mean root it meant switch to another user and do...
[00:58] <ali_> wat do u mean by switch to another user?
[00:58] <mads-> Fryguy--: It was thru the "Hardware Drivers" I installed it.. And it does appear there anymore
[00:58] <tr-33> does ubuntu have a command line checksum app?
[00:58] <Fryguy--> tr-33: md5
[00:58] <tr-33> Fryguy--, thanks
[00:58] <amenado> ali_ just like what i said, you can have user1 and execute a command as user2
[00:58] <frostburn> tr-33, md5sum
[00:58] <amenado> ali_ more details? man sudo
[00:59] <Terabyte> any reason why i should have this error: http://solong.co.uk/index.php/about       ?
[00:59] <Simulous> really not sure what i need to do. Am i right in saying vlc doesnt like the eye candy adjustments ive made? :)
[00:59] <Fryguy--> Terabyte: you don't have a function called base_url defined.. error message seems pretty obvious... why are you asking in here
[00:59] <Fryguy--> Terabyte: this is #ubuntu, not #iamanoobwithphp
[00:59] <Terabyte> oh
[00:59] <Terabyte> sorry wrong channel
[01:00] <recon69> how do you get openoffice to export to csv?
[01:00] <Terabyte> also its #codeigniter so don't be so quick to insult
[01:01] <Fryguy--> Terabyte: uh, why not be quick to insult, it's a plain and simple error that is easily debuggable and plainly obvious. The fact that you have to ask about it warrants an insult
[01:01] <nalioth> let us be civil
[01:01] <Fryguy--> recon69: save as | csv??
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> Fryguy--: "Check finished: errors found in 1 files!"  -- guess I should burn another one?
[01:01] <nalioth> Fryguy--: we are here to help people, not insult them
[01:01] <pig-wrangler> i take it for a uPnP server to function correctly my router needs uPnP enabled?
[01:01] <Terabyte> fryguy its a function which should be accessible from the page i'm in...
[01:01] <recon69> ﻿Fryguy--: only allows save as PDF or HTML
[01:03] <amenado> pig-wrangler-> what exactly is the issue?
[01:03] <genewitch> How do i make compiz a cube instead of a plane? i need 4 viewports
[01:03] <AMLNXUSR> \
[01:04] <genewitch> nevermind, i got it :-)
[01:04] <genewitch> I set columns to 4 instead of 2. noob stuff, thanks again Fryguy--
[01:04] <pig-wrangler> amenado: mediatomb isnt working just wanted to know if uPnP needs to be enabled on the router is all
[01:05] <recon69> how do i add save as csv to openoffice spreadsheet?
[01:05] <amenado> pig-wrangler-> proly your dsl/router has firewalls ...allow it to port forward the ports used for that applications
[01:06] <SeaPhor> Fryguy--, i have watched you help several ppl with their nvidia cards and would appreciate it if you would help me with mine, when you have the opportunity. I do not use envy and i do not have the restricted drivers enabled, i mainly want your help so i can learn the difference between what i have done wrong and doing it the right way
[01:06] <Cyndre> what should I charge for moving of all data from one computer to another for a client?
[01:06] <magic_ninjai> i got some problems, just got some new 5.1 speakers and in amarok i only get sound from the two front ones
[01:06] <amenado> recon69-> dont you have to basically read the csv file from within calc?
[01:06] <magic_ninjai> when i test multichannel playback i get sound from all 5
[01:07] <amenado> Cyndre-> standard hourly rate :P
[01:08] <recon69> ﻿amenado: not sure what you mean about reading the file, I just want to export a spreadsheet to a csv file. was stunned that its not there by default
[01:08] <Cyndre> amenado: its all screwed up because he had tons of issues and it took 4 times as long to get the data moved
[01:08] <amenado> recon69-> nothing on the save options?
[01:09] <frostburn> Cyndre, first, support channel, second, your standard rate be consistent in the contract, no?
[01:09] <recon69> ﻿amenado: just PDF and html
[01:09] <amenado> Cyndre-> it does not matter, its time + materials..thats how much i would charge if it was me
[01:09] <Cyndre> amenado: no contracat, just told do whatever it takes :), so I dont want to screw him, or myself
[01:10] <Cyndre> amenado: normally $55 an hour, thinking 3 hours for $165
[01:10] <amenado> Cyndre-> well, just watch out if somehow you can not fully recover all the data...
[01:10] <recon69> sorry, was looking in export , save as has csv
[01:10] <r3mix> hey, i downloaded a gtk theme from gnome-look, can someone help me installing it?
[01:10] <GH234WEGD32> WOUIUOIU
[01:11] <amenado> Cyndre-> if it will take you 3 hours, then you charge him the faire amount
[01:11] <mindheavy> every time i put an sd card in my laptop, f-spot autoruns and trys to import everything, every single box in preferences->removable drives and media is unchecked, how else can this be stopped?
[01:12] <legyes> nikin :)
[01:12] <legyes> Jeee, egy magyar
[01:12] <xenoglossia> I'm trying to format my 7.8 GB USB Flash Drive.  I want two partitions (sdg1: FAT32 5.8 GB, sdg2: FAT16 2.0 GB).  Everytime I try to make the second partition in gparted, it always comes out as an "unknown filesystem" and fails to mount.  Sometimes I get a "could not detect filesystem" error.  What am I doing wrong?
[01:12] <Fryguy--> well guys, apparently i'm no longer welcome here. It was a good 21 hour period helping you guys out.  Too bad some people don't want me here.  See you guys later I guess
[01:12] <nikin> legyes :) yes :D sometimes it happns that hungarian people come here
[01:13] <Fryguy--> it looks like nalioth is going to take over answering questions now
[01:13] <amenado> Fryguy---> its okay my friend, just take a breather..enjoy the holidays for now
[01:13] <tr-33> Fryguy--, wait a moment
[01:14] <nalioth> Fryguy--: this is a help channel, not an 'insult the users' channel or a ' i'm a martry - look at me ' channel
[01:14] <nikin> hy... can anyone suggest me a lightweight , highly customizable window manager what can display the window title and buttons on the left side of the window not the top. Being able to theme it would be nice to
[01:14] <tr-33> Fryguy-- could you give me example of md5 from command line? 'md5 ...'
[01:14] <r3mix> can someone help me
[01:15] <magic_ninjai> !sound
[01:15] <wgato> any ideas on why my hd doesnt show up in the partitor?
[01:15] <recon69>  gives Fryguy-- a hug
[01:15] <amenado> tr-33-> md5sum filename
[01:15] <SeaPhor> ohhh, i see Fryguy-- was banned, odd, i've watched him help alot- A-LOT of ppl, i know the ops know what their doing, first-hand lol, and i don't know the reasons, but i hope they re-consider, i've seen too many satisfied ppl that walked away happy
[01:15] <nikin> tr-33: it is md5sum [somefile]
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> !ask | r3mix
[01:15] <Fryguy--> nalioth: why don't you count the number of helpful comments i've made over the past day and contrast that to the 2-lines worth of colorful insults I directed towards one person, who was offtopic and in the wrong channel anway.  A ban was REALLY warranted there?  like I said, have fun helping these people out, i'm obviously not wanted here anymore
[01:15] <SeaPhor> ok
[01:15] <Fryguy--> tr-33: sorry, you'll have to ask someone else
[01:16] <^Ocean^> Are there any Hard drive tools for moving Tracks ?
[01:16] <^Ocean^> Are there any Hard drive tools for moving Tracks, such as the old Norton Disk Doctor ?
[01:16] <mindheavy> every time i put an sd card in my laptop, f-spot autoruns and trys to import everything, every single box in preferences->removable drives and media is unchecked, how else can this be stopped?
[01:16] <tr-33> amenado and nikin, i've tried that. i'm testing it on a file that isn't done downloading and i'm not getting any errors
[01:16] <amenado> nalioth-> i agree with Fryguy, sometimes we get overzealous..give him a break, its holiday anyways..peace out
[01:17] <amenado> tr-33 wait til its done downloading then
[01:17] <xenoglossia> I have noticed, though, that it *sometimes* works if I make the first partition bigger than the second
[01:17] <Odd-rationale> mindheavy: pref --> file management --> media
[01:17] <tr-33> oh, nevermind. they don't match :)
[01:17] <nikin> tr-33 you shouldnt the program just runs to the current end of file... if you want to check integrity with md5 you need a value to compare to
[01:17] <roudaddy> Anyone running 8.04 on a laptop with dual batteries? would like to automagically switch to the second battery before the first goes to zero
[01:18] <tr-33> yea, i have a value to compare it to.
[01:18] <mindheavy> Odd-rationale: i dont have 'file management' under preferences, its 8.04 if that matters
[01:18] <nikin> the easy way is to manualy check if it is the same
[01:18] <AMLNXUSR> FryGuy> is there a way i can get ubuntu to redetect my hardware settings?
[01:18] <wobblywu> was 8.04.1 delayed, or am I just impatient? the release date is today according to the hardy schedule
[01:19] <Odd-rationale> mindheavy: then open a file browser (nautilus) and go to Edit --> preferences --> media
[01:19] <Fryguy--> AMLNXUSR: sorry, I am no longer helping people, I'm not welcome here anymore
[01:19] <mindheavy> Odd-rationale: ah, thank you
[01:19] <crimsun> wobblywu: a bit late, eh?  http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[01:19] <Tripsev> Looking for experienced Zenoss user to aswer some questions...
[01:19] <wobblywu> crimsun, lol I take it all back
[01:20] <wobblywu> crimsun, didn't see it there a few hours back, didn't see an announcement on main just then, 1+1 equaled "delayed" to me -- nevermind :)
[01:20] <erat123> ﻿wobblywu: ha!  i was getting worried when you said that... good ol ubuntu
[01:21] <jm2k> have too many Apache process id's on my local server (laptop). Why?
[01:21] <r3mix> how do i install a theme i downloaded off gnome-look?
[01:21] <amenado> jm2k-> how many are you expecting?
[01:21] <__yy_> jm2k: define "too many"
[01:21] <Fryguy--> nalioth: you going to help any of these people? or do you want me to take care of it for you?
[01:21] <hrlr> Any idea when the 8.04.1 ISO is going to be available for general consumption?
[01:21] <Fryguy--> nalioth: wouldn't want to intrude
[01:21] <jm2k> amenado: just one, i do development from my laptop them upload to server.
[01:21] <crimsun> hrlr: it's already available.
[01:22] <nikin> r3mix: extract it to ~/.themes
[01:22] <jm2k> amenado: i have six apache2 process-ids running.
[01:22] <hrlr> crimsun:  The main Ubuntu page doesn't indicate such.
[01:22] <amenado> jm2k-> well apache always starts a few so it can readily serve plenty of users..apache dont want them to be waiting in line for a socket
[01:22] <jm2k> __yy_: i have six apache2 process-ids running.
[01:23] <__yy_> jm2k: you can set how many processes apache keeps around in its config... apache generally uses one process per connection and keeps a pool of running processes around waiting for incoming connections
[01:23] <jm2k> hmm, i realize that but if i'm the only one it needs to serve, why more than one processes?
[01:23] <crimsun> hrlr: try the actual hardy download page.
[01:23] <crimsun> hrlr: i.e., http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[01:24] <amenado> jm2k there is a setting to limit it the number of processes it should spawn, btw, six is not awfully hard on your cpu is it?
[01:24] <__yy_> jm2k: it takes time to spawn a process, having them ready allows apache to respond faster. Like I said, you can configure how many are kept like that in the config
[01:24] <jm2k> __yy_: the processes should die out when no request to local server, right? well i have no browser open but still 6 open apache2 processes.
[01:25] <amenado> jim2k nope, it should not die, its there waiting
[01:25] <__yy> jm2k: no, that's not correct. Apache keeps a pool of waiting processes so that it doesn't have the overhead time of starting a new process when a new connection comes in.
[01:25] <hrlr> crimsun:  Thanks!  :)
[01:25] <__yy> jm2k: if you want it to not do this you need to set the size of this pool to 1
[01:25] <jm2k> if doing development for me on my ubuntu laptop, how many processses do you recommend?
[01:26] <__yy> jm2k: honestly, I don't see anything wrong with 6
[01:26] <amenado> jm2k-> default is okay, you would not lose much resource
[01:26] <__yy> jm2k: they're not using CPU time while they wait, so unless you're desperate for the RAM I don't see why they'd be a problem
[01:26] <lubosz> what is the best method to install the nvidia driver on hardy 64? there was no restricted drivers setup. nvidia-glx-new?
[01:27] <Victor```> nvidia has an amd64 driver for linux?
[01:28] <r3mix> okay, thanks, i installed the theme - now where do i move the theme icons?
[01:28] <jm2k> __yy: basicallly i'm trying to trim out unnecessary processes and finding scripts running that are no longer needed.
[01:28] <lubosz> Victor```: it should ^^
[01:28] <Victor```> i guess they do
[01:28] <jm2k> __yy, amenado: thx
[01:29] <RonLut1> I have a problem: I deleted totem and Installed VLC instead. now when I "Open" files (avi and other) from gmail for example It says me: /tmp/bowling.avi could not be opened, because an unknown error occurred. Try saving to disk first and then opening the file.
[01:29] <^Ocean^> Are there any tools for linux Similar too Norton Disk Doctor ?
[01:30] <{alejandro}> hey who can help me with a pretty technical problem - I'm not booting
[01:30] <__yy> RonLut1: what happens when you try saving to disk first and then opening the file?
[01:30] <__yy> {alejandro}: don't ask to ask, ask. If someone knows the answer they'll respond.
[01:30] <lubosz> Fryguy--: thx
[01:30] <amenado> {alejandro}-> what have you done? is this a new install?
[01:31] <{alejandro}> this is an old install - I think it's freezing up on the pci initialization
[01:31] <{alejandro}> 0000:00:0f.0: controller can't do NCQ turning off CAP_NCQ
[01:31] <magic_ninjai> i get no sound with alsa, could it be that its not installed?
[01:31] <{alejandro}> wait that's the third part
[01:31] <{alejandro}> ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0f.0[B] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[01:31] <{alejandro}> 0000:00:0f.0: controller can't do NCQ turning off CAP_NCQ
[01:31] <{alejandro}> 0000:00:0f.0: controller can't do PMP turning off CAP_PMP
[01:31] <FloodBot1> {alejandro}: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <{alejandro}> it's just three lines
[01:31] <{alejandro}> oh that's a robot sorry
[01:32] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: ALSA is definitely installed by default.
[01:32] <xxor27h> can anybody helps me? i am a newbie ) and i have a problem with deinstalint  programs which was compiled and installed fro sources
[01:32] <xxor27h> *deinstalling
[01:32] <phishy> I'm wondering if there is anyway i can have the exact same sensitivity on a windows install as on a ubuntu install? I havn't used ubuntu since 7.10 and in that version having absolutely no acceleration limited your mouse speed a lot. I'm wondering if maybe there is a way i could increase my mouse sensitivity without having any acceleration at all? ( this way i could play games on linux without finding a new sensitivity :)
[01:32] <{alejandro}> this is on an install I've had for a while - could anyone translate that into what kind of hardware problems I might be having
[01:33] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, after system-->preferences-->sound being set to alsa i get no playback
[01:33] <AMLNXUSR> anyone know how i can get ubuntu to redetect my hardware settings?
[01:33] <__yy> xxor27h: unless the source package provides an uninstaller, you're probably out of luck. You could try going to to source directory and typing 'make uninstall' ... but you'll probably need to track down the installed files manually.
[01:33] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, what kind of hardware settings
[01:33] <ubuntu> hey everybody, I could use some help: installing ubuntu (currently on live) hardy on an intel ich9r fakeraid 0 is giving me trouble, it cant correctly detect the raid0, anybody experience with that?
[01:33] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: you have to remove the pulseaudio package, too, and log out and back in
[01:33] <AMLNXUSR> sound card mainly
[01:33] <{alejandro}> sigh
[01:34] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: or, at the very least, uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Sounds> Enable software sound mixing
[01:34] <_2> 2 [root@dell:~] xcdroast
[01:34] <_2> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:34] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: unless you absolutely need that fakeraid, you're gonna set yourself up for heartbreak and exhaustion in the long run
[01:34] <checkpoint> hi
[01:34] <amenado> {alejandro}-> have you tried to google for those errors?
[01:34] <_2> how to run xcdroast as root without sudo ?
[01:34] <{alejandro}> not yet - just checking if it rang a bell with anyone
[01:35] <jm2k> what is the command to check each process id belongs to which application/files?
[01:35] <ubuntu> ubunubi, well, im kinda used to stuff like this :D its just that everybody seemes to be getting trouble using a intel ich9r and I need to keep my windows installation for now
[01:35] <lubosz> so the nvidia 173.14.09 (Stable since june 16) is not in the repos yet????
[01:35] <lubosz> ?
[01:35] <crimsun> _2: gksu xcdroast
[01:35] <checkpoint> is it possible run under ubuntu , a virtual pc 2007?
[01:35] <__yy> jm2k: ps axu
[01:35] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, already did
[01:35] <amenado> jm2k-> try fuser or lsof
[01:35] <_2> crimsun with out sudo
[01:35] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, it will do this on a restart
[01:35] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, what precisely though do you want it to do?
[01:35] <crimsun> _2: then you'll need to do the xauth magic exporting and importing manually
[01:35] <lubosz> checkpoint: you can use virtualbox or vmware for virtualisation of windows
[01:36] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: already did what?
[01:36] <Victor```> checkpoint: run ubuntu under virtual pc 2007, yes
[01:36] <simplexio> checkpoint: ? ubuntu under vpc or vpc in ubuntu ? and prbably yes , and no
[01:36] <Victor```> run virtual pc 2007 in ubuntu, no
[01:36] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, turned off esd
[01:36] <{alejandro}> hm so I know it's in the PCI BIOS
[01:36] <_2> crimsun i exported DISPLAY=':0'  no help
[01:36] <{alejandro}> I guess
[01:36] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: did you log out and back in?
[01:36] <lubosz> checkpoint: if you want to run your old vpc07 vm, then good look converting the image, or try running the software with wine
[01:36] <checkpoint> lubosz u mean i run vmware windows and inside my wmware i run virutal pc?
[01:36] <Maarekstele> has anyone used Screem before/
[01:36] <lubosz> checkpoint: no
[01:36] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, configuring 5.1 speakers, i get 5.1 sound from ubuntu itself, BUT i get sound from only two speakers with amarok
[01:36] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: (I recommend you remove the pulseaudio package if you want to go the PA-less route)
[01:36] <lubosz> checkpoint: convert the image, and use virtualbox
[01:36] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: can't help ya on getting it to work (i'd assume you'd have to manually upgrade to a kernel that has better ich9r support than the one supplied with ubuntu by default) -- but i'd cough up $50 for a 500gb HD and install directly to that before I'd spend 20+ hours doing that :P ....sadly if you change to a newer dev kernel for ich support your ubuntu installation will be unable to be supported officially
[01:36] <simplexio> btw.. is virtual pc xxxx good?
[01:36] <_2> crimsun what's the command to make xorg permiscuous ?
[01:36] <Victor```> simplexio: yeah
[01:36] <lubosz> checkpoint: or reinstall the vm in vbox ^^
[01:37] <checkpoint> kinda problem it not allowing convert image of vmc
[01:37] <checkpoint> cuz thos machiens are from microsoft learning
[01:37] <checkpoint> mcse 2003
[01:37] <crimsun> _2: xhost, but I strongly discourage you from using it, because it's deprecated.  Use xauth instead.
[01:37] <lubosz> checkpoint: running vpc07 in wine would be no good, cause m$ software runs like $h*t in wine
[01:37] <Victor```> lubosz: i ran office 2k3 in wine just fine
[01:37] <_2> ah yes xhost
[01:37] <_2> thank you.
[01:37] <{alejandro}> amenado do you know how to translate some of this? google isn't that straightforward
[01:37] <jm2k> curious: why do process numeric id's skip, PID's: 1,3,4,5,2003,4080,etc ?
[01:37] <AMLNXUSR> xtknihgt, i have no sound.. i've checked online forums and talked to many people about this but still no sound.. iv tried to configure te alsamister  and played around with the volume controls for 2 days now and still nothing
[01:38] <RonLut1> __yy: it works...
[01:38] <ubuntu> ubunubi, yeah i know the deal with foreign kernels and i wouldnt have a problem with that, btw I tried your suggestion already by installing ubuntu onto a third, nonraid hd i built in, sadly grub has issues trying to start windows up because it obviously cant find it, its on the raid
[01:38] <amenado> {alejandro}-> what type of drive? sata? ide?
[01:38] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, explain please?
[01:38] <simplexio> jm2k: because its serial number that runs from 1->
[01:38] <crimsun> jm2k: they're not "skipping."  In the Ubuntu kernel, they're sequentially incremented.
[01:38] <thetank> is there a way for fspot to download video off my camera instead of just pictures
[01:38] <{alejandro}> so far what I get is that that NCQ has to do with initializing the hard drive and PMP too?
[01:38] <{alejandro}> It's ide
[01:38] <checkpoint> guys what linux distro have inculded vpn,pptp,and cable modem dial ups inside already?
[01:38] <crimsun> magic_ninjai: explain what?
[01:38] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: your motherboard should have either an IDE or SATA port on another controller
[01:39] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: what motherboard?
[01:39] <jm2k> crimson: incremented until next reboot?
[01:39] <Victor```> checkpoint: most linux distros should have that afaik
[01:39] <Victor```> cable modem dialup?
[01:39] <ubuntu> ubunubi, yeah, i attached it to an IDE controller, its a gigabyte p35 dq6 newest bios
[01:39] <checkpoint> well kinda not
[01:39] <jm2k> crimsun: incremented until next reboot?
[01:39] <__yy> RonLut1: what?
[01:39] <crimsun> jm2k: until it reaches the upper signed 32-bit limit.
[01:39] <checkpoint> i have miniport wan ppptp connection to my host
[01:39] <ubuntu> ubunubi, the raid0 is on the same controller i reckon, just sata2
[01:39] <Maarekstele> Victor```: cablemodems should auto connect on their own
[01:39] <checkpoint> and i can not make it in ubunru
[01:39] <JohnRobert> anyone know of a format that's similar to dvd-video (not mpeg2, I'm talking about the video and the menus, subtitles etc) that uses mpeg4? eg - dvd video but with mpeg4 instead of 2.
[01:39] <jm2k> gothca, thx
[01:40] <thetank> is there a way for fspot to download video off my camera instead of just pictures
[01:40] <Victor```> Maarekstele: yeah, he said something about "cable modem dial ups"
[01:40] <simplexio> jm2k: and after max it uses free ones
[01:40] <RonLut1> __yy: when I save it, it does works
[01:40] <magic_ninjai> crimsun, got it thanks
[01:40] <RonLut1> __yy: I mean, VLC is playing the file from desktop...
[01:40] <thetank> or better yet how do I mount usb
[01:40] <simplexio> jm2k: so max is 2^32 precosesssame time
[01:40] <checkpoint> if i run ubuntu in vmware , i get same as i run it on my pc?
[01:40] <checkpoint> is not it ?
[01:40] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, sorry you had misspelled my name so i didn't get notified... but anyway abotu your problem, what sound card do youhave?
[01:40] <Victor```> crimsun: is that even likely?
[01:41] <crimsun> Victor```: yes.
[01:41] <AMLNXUSR> sorry bout that
[01:41] <Victor```> i've had boxes with uptimes of over a year that still had 5-digit pids
[01:41] <{alejandro}> actually it seems like this isn't a good topic for the ubuntu room
[01:41] <{alejandro}> this seems like more of a hardware problem
[01:41] <{alejandro}> just one I don't quite get
[01:41] <__yy> RonLut1: good, go with god.
[01:41] <amenado> {alejandro}-> yeah, its way too deep
[01:41] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: unfortunately looking at the specs for that MB, all your sata ports are run through your southbridge, sadly. looks like you'd have to use your 1 IDE connectino
[01:41] <simplexio> Victor```: lemmee check that
[01:41] <AMLNXUSR> sound blaster audigy 2
[01:41] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, ah ok.  i have this card too. one very common problem is that you need to tell it to switch between analog/digital output
[01:41] <RonLut1> __yy: :\ what?
[01:41] <Victor```> i've never had a 6 or 7 digit pid :)
[01:41] <crimsun> sigh, it helps if I actually said 16-bit instead of 32-bit.
[01:41] <crimsun> anyhow.
[01:42] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, see if it is listed in "asoundconf list"
[01:42] <ubuntu> ubunubi, yup, thats why i need to get this stuff to run anyway, ich9r is a bit of a bitch :/
[01:42] <Victor```> 65535, kernel panic
[01:42] <simplexio> Victor```: uptime 392 and latest pid 25010
[01:42] <AMLNXUSR> how do i get there?
[01:42] <Victor```> then agian
[01:42] <xtknight> im using ich9 works for sata, but havent tried raid yet
[01:42] <Victor```> most boxes with 1yr+ uptimes are just servers
[01:42] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, start a terminal and type that
[01:43] <RonLut1> can some one help me? I have a problem: I deleted totem and Installed VLC instead. now when I "Open" files (avi and other) from gmail for example It says: "/tmp/bowling.avi could not be opened, because an unknown error occurred. Try saving to disk first and then opening the file." When I try to save it and then play, it plays well in VLC....
[01:43] <ubuntu> ubunubi, looks like every thread about ich9r is about the same trouble but nothing is ever resolved :/ i hear 8.10 is planned to support fakeraid? do you know if it does ich9r?
[01:43] <Bora> tech007: are you here? I just installed ubuntu 8.04 on my bigger machine, and i have the same 3d video problem, any help please?
[01:43] <simplexio> yeah.. my ubuntu desktop get reboot every month or so for new kernel
[01:43] <Victor```> if it actually reached the upper limit, wouldn't it just panic
[01:43] <crimsun> Victor```: no, it rolls over.
[01:43] <ubunubi> ubuntu:: i'm not up to date yet on 8.10's plans, sorry
[01:43] <simplexio> Victor```: far as i knoe it loops over and uses free ids
[01:43] <__yy> RonLut1: The error message you got tells you how to fix the problem...
[01:43] <sharperguy> Umm, by any chance does someone have the package network-manager-gnome for edgy eft? (its the latest live-cd i have and i can't get on wifi)
[01:43] <Victor```> hmm
[01:44] <AMLNXUSR> ok yea my audigy is listed in asoundconf list"
[01:44] <Victor```> i thought they would conflict and the kernel would panic
[01:44] <ubuntu> ubunubi, mh.. okay. thanks anyway, if you get any ideas ill be in this channel as Svenstaro
[01:44] <st4nny> help.. can i see from terminal the size of a directory.. and subdirectory?
[01:44] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: have you tried installing dmraid?
[01:44] <Victor```> st4nny: df
[01:44] <Victor```> err
[01:44] <Victor```> du
[01:44] <Svenstaro> of course, thats where the problems occur, ubunubi
[01:44] <st4nny> excuse me for the bad english.. but i'm italian..
[01:45] <xenoglossia> Hi again!  I'm trying to format my 7.8 GB USB Flash Drive.  I want two partitions (sdg1: FAT32 5.8 GB, sdg2: FAT16 2.0 GB).  Everytime I try to make the second partition in gparted, it always comes out as an "unknown filesystem" and fails to mount.  Sometimes I get a "could not detect filesystem" error.  What am I doing wrong?  Oh -- I have also noticed, though, that it *sometimes* works if I make the first partition bigger than
[01:45] <xenoglossia> the second, and I tried fdisk, too.  No luck.   Thanks much!
[01:45] <crimsun> Victor```: if you're alluding to having all 2^16 /active/, yes, you'd get miserable performance long before then.
[01:45] <RonLut1> __yy: saving every file is NOT a fix to the problem. I want to open files. I am sure it some kind of association problem
[01:45] <st4nny> mm df .. of the partition and not of the directory..
[01:45] <Victor```> st4nny: yes, use du
[01:45] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: so does the livecd install using dmraid, then when you reboot grub can't load ubuntu or does it not even get that far?
[01:45] <Claw6> i have a problem : i cannot mount a partition
[01:46] <Bora> is there anyone who can help me out install my graphic card right? I don't get 3d effect when "changing desktop"
[01:46] <__yy> RonLut1: it's an "unknown error" ... "unknown error" is not "association problem"
[01:46] <Victor```> crimsun: wouldn't it be 2^32
[01:46] <Claw6> its called sdb1 how to mount?
[01:46] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, I dont even need dmraid for setting up on the single disks i put in, the problem is that it doesnt find my fakeraid, the installation is okay for singledisks
[01:46] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, my card is listed under 'asoundconf list"
[01:46] <st4nny> mmm wow!! thanks Victor..
[01:47] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, grub doesnt like fakeraids either though it boots single disks
[01:47] <st4nny> i don't know..du.. :)
[01:47] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: and by "it" do you mean the installer or grub after a (seemingly) successful install from a livecd?
[01:47] <Victor```> st4nny: hmm?
[01:47] <thetank> is there a way for fspot to download video off my camera instead of just pictures
[01:47] <lubosz> Victor```: wine is optimized for office, cause a lot of development time has gone into it. but try ie8 :D or anything...msn, the software is just too creepy and not plattform independent
[01:47] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, type gnome-volume-control
[01:48] <crimsun> Victor```: no, 2^15
[01:48] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, click SWitches tab and then switch the analog/digital jack option
[01:48] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, both, grub and installer are quite happy to install on single discs connected to either sata or ide, but if I installed onto my working discs it would kill my fakeraid
[01:48] <RonLut1> __yy: it started after I deleted totem. all the media files can't be opened but all the other files like .doc or .ppt (OO) I can open.... for sure it's a problem of file association....
[01:48] <st4nny> what??
[01:48] <owen1> can u see this? (testing)
[01:48] <crimsun> Victor```: look at /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
[01:48] <RonLut1> owen1: yes.........
[01:48] <owen1> RonLut1: thanks
[01:48] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, for the reference, this is the error I and everybody else gets ERROR: isw device for volume "RAID_0" broken on /dev/sda in RAID set
[01:48] <Svenstaro> "isw_hbfdgdiai_RAID_0"
[01:48] <Svenstaro> ERROR: isw: wrong # of devices in RAID set "isw_hbfdgdiai_RAID_0" [1/2] on
[01:48] <Svenstaro> /dev/sda
[01:48] <FloodBot1> Svenstaro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Bora have you installed ccsm. or you cant enable any effects etc?
[01:49] <Victor```> crimsun: don't have any SSH windows open to linux boxes
[01:49] <checkpoint> omg guys open ur tv channels fast
[01:49] <RonLut1> So, no one can really help me?
[01:49] <Victor```> crimsun: 99999
[01:49] <Victor```> lol?
[01:50] <Victor```> but I'm looking at the binary emulation layer in freebsd
[01:50] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, ok i unchecked the "digital/analog option
[01:50] <Lynet> RonLut1: In firefox preferences, Applications. What application is set to open the files you have problems with?
[01:50] <xenoglossia> Claw6: this didn't work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24863/?  good luck!
[01:50] <sharperguy> anyone know if i can still get deb packages for edgy eft from anywhere, since they've been dropped out of official support?
[01:50] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, does the sound work?
[01:50] <AMLNXUSR> nope
[01:51] <checkpoint> is it good using ssh-server b4 trying connect to the web
[01:51] <Ajax_> Is 8.4.01 out?
[01:51] <checkpoint> ?
[01:51] <crimsun> yes.
[01:51] <crimsun> ^ Ajax_
[01:51] <khajavi> I have installed libmysql++-dev (2.3 version in hardy) but I need newer version(=3.0.0-1) I this here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libmysql++-dev  WHAT is the interpid? cant install this package on hardy?
[01:51] <Ajax_> Is it available through auto-updates?
[01:51] <crimsun> Ajax_: yes.
[01:51] <Pici> Ajax_: All that 8.04.1 is, is updates.
[01:51] <msjdbgjd> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[01:52] <crimsun> khajavi: it's the current development version that will become 8.10.
[01:52] <Ajax_> Pici: K. thanks
[01:52] <Currrls> hey, could anyone give me an idea of the performance of ubuntu off of a live USB compared to running it from the harddrive?
[01:52] <RonLut1> Lynet: "Use movie player (default)"
[01:52] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, ima try to restart my pc and see if that helps brb
[01:52] <Bora> Jack_Sparrow: i can't enable any effect. on my "xorg.conf" i have vesa, but i don't know where to look at xorg.o.log to know which one i need to change vesa to?
[01:52] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: look at this and see if it has any info that's new to you:: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidDebug
[01:52] <Lynet> RonLut1: Try changing it, see if that helps.
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Bora do you know what video card you have in that box
[01:53] <khajavi> crimsun: can I install libmysql++ from interpid to hardy?
[01:53] <Ajax_> Is there a way to have a movie as my desktop background?
[01:53] <rebbecca> hello i am new here i was wondering if you can install programs like you did through windows i am trying to see if i can stay away from windows but my luck is running out please help me to figure out how to install programs
[01:53] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, had a look at that one already, I figured those guys had other problems. My problems are solely related to ich9r it seems :/
[01:53] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/219393 is all about it
[01:53] <Ajax_> Rebbecca: what are you trying to install?
[01:54] <MGrunde> rebbecca, System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> rebbecca open synaptic and search through the list of available and supported apps
[01:54] <Bora> Jack_Sparrow: the motherboard catalog says "intel 945gc a2 chipset"
[01:54] <crimsun> khajavi: not recommended, but you can request a backport to hardy-backports.
[01:54] <rebbecca> ok
[01:54] <RonLut1> Lynet: I don't really know how do I put VLC into it... it only have the option "Use VLC Multimedia Plugin (in Firefox)" or browse for the app..... I don't know how do I find vlc application file
[01:54] <khajavi> I need newer version of libmysql++ that is not in hardy repository, what should I do?
[01:54] <undecim> How do I get sound working in ubuntu server?
[01:54] <rebbecca> i am trying to install bitdefeder and some games that i used on windows but i am not sure if i can use it here
[01:54] <RonLut1> Lynet: and VLC PLUGIN isn't working... I treid already
[01:55] <Claw6> when trying to mount a partition (sudo mount /dev/sda1/) it replay : mount: Konnte /dev/sda1 nicht in /etc/fstab oder /etc/mtab finden
[01:55] <Claw6>  (cant find x in y or z)
[01:55] <Lynet> RonLut1: vlc is /usr/bin/vlc
[01:55] <Claw6> any fix?
[01:55] <checkpoint> guys is it good running ubuntu in vmware?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Bora lspci | grep -i vga
[01:55] <sharperguy> how long should an "e2fsck -f" on a 140GB partition?
[01:55] <sharperguy> take
[01:56] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, it looks like theres hope, philip susi provided some usuable info ill try out, brb
[01:56] <arlan> checkpoint: I've had better luck with VirtualBox
[01:56] <Bora> Jack_Sparrow: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Bora Do you see any way to enable restricted drivers etc
[01:56] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, for some reason HPA is conflicting with ich9r. ill need to reboot
[01:57] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: kk
[01:57] <RonLut1> Lynet: Now works, thanks :) BTW, why most of the videos I watch are smudgy in ubuntu?
[01:58] <Lynet> RonLut1: What do you mean by smudgy?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Bora System..admin..restricted driver manager?
[01:59] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight,  so i tried the analog/digital option and i still have no sound.. anything else i can try?
[02:00] <^Ocean^> how come i no longer have the killall command ?
[02:00] <Bora> Jack_Sparrow: let me change it to intel and see what happens
[02:00] <crimsun> ^Ocean^: is psmisc still installed?
[02:00] <RonLut1> Lynet: http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8449/screenshotvlcmediaplayeui1.png
[02:01] <mangojambo> how do I remove soundcore module ?  sudo rmmod soundcore  is giving me ERROR: Module soundcore is in use by snd
[02:02] <checkpoint> guys how come windows xp sp3 running for me faster , then ubuntu ?
[02:02] <checkpoint> 0_o
[02:02] <MGrunde> mangojambo, you could blacklist the module.
[02:02] <Dante123> I have an amd +3400 cpu (64 bit) with 1gb.....thinking about going 64bit version if Ubuntu Hardy Heron.....any reason I should not?
[02:02] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, i assume the volume is up on PCM, master, and pcm front, and front, and all unmuted?
[02:03] <keen> i just installed a new icon set and after i applied it the forward and back arrows for firefox 3 are missing....anyone know how to fix that?
[02:03] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight yes it is
[02:03] <mangojambo> MGrunde: that is my card: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)  ... is the module snd_hda_intel ?
[02:03] <Dante123> BTW, kids use this computer for surfing the internet, youtube, flash games, and tremulous
[02:03] <mangojambo> MGrunde: lsmod | grep snd give me that ..
[02:03] <Lynet> RonLut1: Ouch. That's some nasty macroblock damage. Do you happen to know which codec that video uses?
[02:03] <ubunubi> dante123: i'd advise against it. getting flash to work on 64 bit is a nightmare if possible at all
[02:04] <|rt|> Dante123: the biggest thing that 64bit brings to the table is larger memory addressing....with only 1gb of ram I don't really see any benifits for you
[02:04] <RonLut1> Lynet: hmmm.... no... but I guess I can check it, somehow..?
[02:04] <Dante123> ﻿ubunubi okay.   Kids will kill me if flash isn't working
[02:04] <RonLut1> Lynet: It's not in all videos... but in a lot of them
[02:05] <AlabamaHit> |rt|:  what about 3 gigs 64 bit benefit there?
[02:05] <Dante123> ﻿|rt| okay thanks...will stick with 32 bit
[02:05] <|rt|> AlabamaHit: not really
[02:05] <Gun_Smoke> Trying to start stunnel4 it dumps with "You should check that you have specified the pid= in you configuration file"   However I don't know with the pid should be.
[02:05] <Lynet> RonLut1: Trying to find some common denominator would help a lot in figuring out what is wrong.
[02:05] <ubunubi> dante123: in addition to |rt|'s comments...unless your running scientific calculation applications that need the extra memory (that you don't have) or specific 64bit software--you'll wind up having to run 32-bit applications on your 64bit OS anyway..so you'll gain nothing but extra work and a headache and broken flash -- for no benefit to yourself
[02:05] <Dante123> ﻿ubunubi:  you've convinced me
[02:06] <AlberTUX_> hello hello
[02:06] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, well it's probably your audio applications, i guess.  Hardy introduced something called pulseaudio that's causing some people problems
[02:06] <spoon_man> so I just tried the Flash 10 beta 2 in Firefox -- and it locked up my system when I went to a Flash-heavy site. had to do a hard reset and downgrade back to 9. bleh.
[02:07] <sharperguy> does anyone know where i could find network-manager-gnome for edgy eft?
[02:07] <ubunubi> spoon_man:: that's what the beta tag is there to warn you about :P
[02:07] <AlberTUX_> anybody knows how to get 8.04.1 updates?
[02:07] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, ok thnx for ur time
[02:07] <AlberTUX_> i on 8.04 server
[02:07] <AlberTUX_> i need to upgrade the dovecot package urgently
[02:07] <AlberTUX_> but i cannot find it on the repos
[02:07] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, you could try going in gstreamer-properties (execute from console) and reporting what you see there...alsa/pulseaudio etc
[02:07] <electro> hi i was wondering if there is any good virus scanner for ubuntu linux, if there is? xP
[02:07] <spoon_man> ubunubi, hehe, I guess. My mouse pointer started skipping around, I close FF, and the system continued to slow until I couldn't do anything. Maybe I didn't install it properly, but still
[02:08] <yoyoned> AlberTUX_: if 8.04 is alredy installed, all you have to do is regular updates
[02:08] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, like what is selected for default output plugin
[02:08] <checkpoint> guys what better osx liopard latest or ubuntu?
[02:08] <AMLNXUSR> let me check
[02:08] <ubunubi> checkpoint:: if you need to ask, probably osx for yourself :P
[02:08] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, works :) now for the resizing and formatting
[02:09] <ozzloy> i go to places -> network -> Windows Network, then i see some windows computers, but clicking on them doesn't actually connect
[02:09] <Pici> checkpoint: They're different.
[02:09] <Gun_Smoke> My stunnel conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/24868/
[02:09] <ozzloy> how do i troubleshoot that?
[02:09] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: goodluck, was lots of good info in that bug report ;)
[02:09] <AlberTUX_> yoyoned: i did a apt-get dist-upgrade and i don't see the dovecot upgrade anywhere
[02:09] <checkpoint> i am just confused ... i dont know what distro of linux to use
[02:09] <checkpoint> ;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[02:09] <|rt|> checkpoint: well that sounds like a flame bait question to me but it depends on what your needs are
[02:09] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, do you still have the url?
[02:09] <ubunubi> yes one sec
[02:09] <Fungusman> Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone knew of any white channels. I'm trying to learn more about security
[02:09] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/219393
[02:09] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: lucky you. i had bookmarked it for later
[02:09] <AMLNXUSR> stknight, next to device it says not supported
[02:09] <xtknight> Fungusman, like whitehat channels?
[02:09] <AlabamaHit> My flash wasnt working on 64 bit but now it is working Fine.......
[02:09] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, thanks :)
[02:09] <Gun_Smoke> checkpoint, You are new to linux correct?
[02:10] <spoon_man> checkpoint, ubuntu is arguably the most straightforward distro, but it also depends on your hardware capabilities
[02:10] <AlberTUX_> is still 1.0.10 and according to the releasenotes it should be 1.0.13
[02:10] <Fungusman> hahaha
[02:10] <Fungusman> Thats what I meant to write
[02:10] <yoyoned> AlberTUX_: if there was an updated dovecot package, you should have it
[02:10] <xtknight> oh lol
[02:10] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, basically im only using linux-hater hardware, next i have to get my xfi to work :D
[02:10] <ozzloy> checkpoint: if you don't know what linux distro to use, you probably want to use ubuntu
[02:10] <checkpoint> gun_smoke : i am but i learned it from videos for abit of time like 1 month
[02:10] <Fungusman> sorry, Ive been losin sleep over an exam
[02:10] <checkpoint> i know the all basics
[02:10] <xtknight> Fungusman, sorryt im not really sure.  try #security if it exists ;)
[02:10] <Fungusman> whitehat
[02:10] <Fungusman> k
[02:10] <Gun_Smoke> checkpoint, you should be fine with ubuntu
[02:10] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: you must have an ATI card as well!
[02:10] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, that's fine.  mine does too.  what about default output
[02:10] <xtknight> plugin
[02:10] <spoon_man> checkpoint, what's your CPU, and how much RAM do you have?
[02:11] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, Sadly, In this case, I happen to be a proud owner of a 8800gtx :P
[02:11] <ozzloy> checkpoint: start with ubuntu and move to something else when you have a reason to
[02:11] <AlberTUX_> yoyoned: i even look it up on the hardy-updates :S
[02:11] <checkpoint> gun_smoke not currect... i need few things. if linux can mkae them so it is good for me
[02:11] <ubunubi> Svenstaro: then i revoke your full linux-hater-hardware card. ati is the clencher
[02:11] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, anyway, thanks for the help :)
[02:11] <ubunubi> best of luck
[02:11] <Svenstaro> ubunubi, i have two screens tho *fingers crossed*
[02:11] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, default output is alsa
[02:12] <Gun_Smoke> checkpoint, what do you need?
[02:12] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, well that sounds fine to me.  how are you testing your audio? can you press test and see what happens>
[02:12] <checkpoint> 1.be able run my internet 2.run vmc files
[02:12] <AMLNXUSR> mp3
[02:12] <extas> hi everyone. when i move things from a external harddrive to my home dir, the files become rwx------, and not rwx r-- r-- as i want. how do i solve that?
[02:13] <AMLNXUSR> when i press test i dont hear anything
[02:13] <checkpoint> extas maybe u should chnage the prmissions 0_o
[02:13] <AMLNXUSR> wait i got something
[02:13] <AMLNXUSR> when i set my device to adc capture/standard pcm playback it seems to work
[02:14] <RonLut1> Lynet: codec is: S-Mpeg 4 v2
[02:14] <clsk> hello
[02:14] <AMLNXUSR> xtknight, but my music i cant hear
[02:14] <AlberTUX_> bug #189616
[02:15] <clsk> I changed my eth0 configuration from static ip to dhcp. I then set a couple of dns servers (manually) and for some reason every few minutes the system resets the old domain server
[02:15] <AlberTUX_> ubottu: did you manage to upgrade to dovecot 1.0.13 ??
[02:15] <evilbooger> Hey.
[02:15] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, type sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:16] <extas> checkpoint yeah i have to change them afterwards.. but problem is that its my sister and she cant change things like that. but ubuntu mounts things auto, and i thought that i maybe could change how it mounts?
[02:16] <clsk> any ideas how to get rid of it?
[02:16] <RonLut1> Lynet: (?)
[02:17] <checkpoint> extas did utry do it from R00t?
[02:17] <evilbooger> I want to double boot Mac and Ubuntu, which bootloader should I use?
[02:17] <checkpoint> login as R00t
[02:17] <bebin> where can i get smartlink 2801 modem driver
[02:17] <Lynet> RonLut1: Ah. That would be MicroSoft's almost-iso-mpeg4-compliant proprietary codec. You might need the win32/win64codec package to playback those properly.
[02:17] <extas> checkpoint change permissions? ofc i did. but she cant do it everytime she wants music from her external drive
[02:18] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, with mplayer you can try "mplayer -ao alsa /path/to/file" to try and play your music
[02:18] <AlberTUX_> anyone knows where to find packa ge 1.0.13-4ubuntu1
[02:18] <AlberTUX_> ?
[02:18] <checkpoint> evilbooger :grub?
[02:18] <evilbooger> yeah grub, or gag
[02:19] <AMLNXUSR> let me try that
[02:19] <checkpoint> i dont know gag
[02:19] <checkpoint> i know grub;p
[02:19] <jameslr> extas: set the umask?
[02:19] <evilbooger> oh
[02:19]  * DIL relaxes as he listens to norwegian radio and learns ubuntu/linux da life
[02:19] <evilbooger> Is it graphical?
[02:19] <extas> jameslr ill try that
[02:19] <bebin> where can i get smartlink 2801 modem driver
[02:19] <checkpoint> hmm  what u mean?
[02:20] <Bora> ohhhhhhh noooooooo: my system couldn't start after modifing "vessa" to "intel" i am running off the ubuntu cd...
[02:20] <evilbooger> Are there pictures or is it just black and white text?
[02:20] <Lynet> RonLut1:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories After adding the repository, install w32codecs (or w64codecs if you use 64bit ubuntu).
[02:20] <spoon_man> evilbooger, it's just a menu
[02:21] <evilbooger> k i'll check it out
[02:22] <Bora> what am i suppose to do now? how can i change the x11/xorg.conf back to vessa while running this live cd now?
[02:22] <jameslr> extas: I'd just set the umask to 022 in the ~/.bashrc. That should fix your problem if I understand your dilemma
[02:22] <Tea4all> Should I get an nvidia or an ati card for my ubuntu. AKA: which driver works better?
[02:22] <jameslr> Tea4all: nvidia
[02:22] <jameslr> ATI driver support is awful imo
[02:22] <Tea4all> Thought so.
[02:22] <ozzloy> Tea4all: have you considered an intel?
[02:22] <Tea4all> No.
[02:23] <ozzloy> they have awesome driver support
[02:23] <RonLut1> Lynet: Thank you very much... searched it in google but didn't find... you found it.... I'll try it now
[02:23] <Tea4all> Any external cards over 512MB?
[02:23] <evilbooger> Should I get GRUB 2, it seems to still be in beta.
[02:23] <extas> jameslr is it possible to set a umask on a directory? because i only need it on ~/music/
[02:23] <ozzloy> Tea4all: i don't know
[02:24] <jameslr> extas: not that I know of
[02:24] <Bora> how can i modify /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.config while running live cd now?
[02:24] <jameslr> extas: if the directory is a separate drive maybe - I think you can set a umask mount option
[02:25] <jameslr> extas: in that case I'd just create a cron job to set the permissions recursively on the music directory and have it run every day or something
[02:26] <extas> jameslr yeah that would solve it
[02:26] <Bora> please guys i'm stuck here in the middle...................................... how can i modify /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.config while running off the ubuntu cd?
[02:26] <RonLut1> Lynet: it still happens :(
[02:26] <jameslr> Bora: gedit the file?
[02:27] <jameslr> Bora: is it mounted read only or something?
[02:27] <Bora> i tried but it says permision denied
[02:27] <jameslr> Bora: if so then try sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/disk
[02:27] <sharperguy> Man does anyone have network-manager-gnome for edgy eft deb package, I need it desperately
[02:28] <l0fls> hey all :)
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: have you looked at getdeb.net?
[02:28] <jameslr> Bora: make sure you get out of the directory before you try that or you'll just get device busy
[02:28] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak: no actually, doubt it would be there
[02:28] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone know if Ubuntu on a Mac Pro needs anything special? I want to wipe windows/osx/bootcamp and install only Ubuntu. Are there any hurdles because its a "Mac"?
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: i'vec seen old packages of some things there.
[02:29] <Lynet> RonLut1: Dang, not really sure what other advise to give you. MSMPEG4 v1/2/3 is unfortunately one of the few video codecs that Linux has trouble with.
[02:29] <RonLut1> Lynet: ok NVM, thanks anyway for your help...
[02:29] <RonLut1> :)
[02:29] <RonLut1> BB
[02:30] <extas> jameslr just thinking.. everytime ubuntu mounts a drive automatically, i suppose there is this script running to set the mounts options somewhere. maybe i could change how it sets up the umask?
[02:30] <Bora> Could not save the file /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[02:30] <extas> jameslr to the drive that is being mounted
[02:30] <jameslr> extas: yeah, there are udev rules you can set I think, but I don't think setting the umask on the source drive will work.
[02:31] <mcquaid> i can burn nothing but coasters since upgrading to hardy recently.  i can burn fine in xp, nothing is wrong with the burner. worked fine in gutsy
[02:31] <ubunubi> mcquaid: are you leaving the speed set tothe default//maximum?
[02:31] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak: It definatly isnt there
[02:31] <mcquaid> i was wondering if it might be due to cd/dvd drives now listed as scsi devices.  is there a way as a test to force the drive back to an ide like it was in gutsy
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: well, there used to be a list on ubuntu.com of downloadable packages, for each distro, but i'm guesssing since 6.10 is no longer supported, that won't be much luck.. why not upgrade to 8.04?
[02:32] <mcquaid> ubunubi, yes max. which was fine in gutsy.  also i even downloaded nero demo just to see and it wont even recognize a blank disc
[02:32] <SeaPhor> Bora, did you sudo it?
[02:32] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak: I'm running the latest live cd i have, trying to fix my computer, i need wifi but cant get WPA
[02:33] <ubunubi> mcquaid: try setting it to the lowest speed just for a test burn
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: well, just put yourself on WEP for a little bit to downloda a new cd?  most routers switch pretty easy
[02:33] <mcquaid> hmm, at this point i'd like to know if there's a way to force it to be recognized as an ide drive (which it is) like it was in gutsy
[02:33] <ariqs> i can't believe that I have 300 megs of important security updates I'm supposed to download. I mean, this is just hte supposedly important stuff. Ridiculous. There are still people stuck with just dialup for friggin sakes
[02:34] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak: Well to be honest i couldnt get it to connect with anything. The interface was so bad it just said ESSID and network password without letting me choose what type of password, or scan for hubs or anything
[02:34] <bobbob1016> sharperguy, I seem to remember wpa being a pain in Edgy
[02:34] <bobbob1016> sharperguy, Try typing wpasupplicant in a terminal, see if that gives you results.
[02:35] <Infinito-> it should be a crime,  a human rights violation to still provide dial up internet connection to people...
[02:35] <Infinito-> :p
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: hmm, i would try downloading the package for either Feisty, or Dapper, see if that works...  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:35] <AlberTUX> anybody has upgraded ubuntu server from 8.04 to 8.04.1 ?
[02:35] <bobbob1016> ariqs, I think that could be 8.04 to 8.04.1, not sure though
[02:35] <SeaPhor> Bora, if you didnt use gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf then it wont let you save it to /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:36] <bobbob1016> Infinito-, Some people are forced to keep dialup, if they are too far for DSL, and don't want cable, or they might be younger and not be in control of the internet connection, IE their parents control what they get.
[02:37] <SchighSchagh> hey guys. anyone know a good soundcard that's well supported in ubuntu?
[02:37] <Currrls> speaking from experience bobbob1016?
[02:37] <Infinito-> yeah, I know, there are several reasons... but still, inhuman :)
[02:38] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak: well ill have to try them all, but more than likely they depend on library versions i dont have
[02:38] <AlberTUX> when are the ubuntu server 8.04.1 updates will be available to download?
[02:38] <xtknight> SchighSchagh, turtle beach montego DDL and sound blaster audigy2 series... (NOT x-fi though)
[02:39] <Infinito-> being young is no excuse... I know 12 year olds that know more about C programming than myself...
[02:39] <Infinito-> ok that's just one 12 year-old, but man he freaks me out!!
[02:39] <SchighSchagh> xtknight thanks. i'll look them up see which i like better :)
[02:39] <evilbooger> lol
[02:40] <evilbooger> GRUB scares me.
[02:40] <bobbob1016> Currrls, No, I can get DSL, I just deal with a lot of elderly people in a retirement home, and some choose dialup since it's cheaper, one lady pays $35 a year and complains when it goes down, and things take a while to download, even though I always explain it's dialup.  They only had the choice for dialup or comcast until recently, and most didn't want to deal with comcast any more than they had to (the community had a c
[02:40] <bobbob1016> ontract)
[02:41] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: I used to help folks in a retirement home before I moved. I know what you mean.
[02:41] <Infinito-> comcast is evil.
[02:42] <evilbooger> Disney is evil.
[02:42] <evilbooger> Comcast is fine.
[02:42] <xtknight> SchighSchagh, i just got the montego.  it's better for music and audio connectivity/etc (not sure if spdif-in is supported in linux or not).  audigy is good for hardware game acceleration, but linux doesnt support that anyway
[02:42] <Bspec> which telinit number makes it restart?
[02:42] <evilbooger> Ok, ca I turn off these comments everytime someone joins>
[02:42] <FelixTheCat> Bspec: 6
[02:42] <Bspec> sweet
[02:43] <wgato> i cant get the livecd installer to see my hard drive (sata, brand new). any suggestions?
[02:43] <SrgSantos54> what up's everybody !!!
[02:43] <CesarRB> hi everybody!
[02:43] <__yy> ps aux
[02:43] <FelixTheCat> wgato: I'd google for your SATA controller (or your mainboard if it's built in).
[02:44] <SrgSantos54> would some mire helping me with finch ?!?
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> wgato I have a command line option that may work for you
[02:44] <wgato> FelixtheCat:  what am i googling to see?
[02:44] <navetz_> can someone please help me, I view my server (website) in firefox but I can ping it and it works. I have a basic LAMP setup for testing, does anyone know what I shuold do?
[02:45] <FelixTheCat> wgato: see if there are any known fixes/drivers/kernel arguments you need to pass.
[02:45] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, I fell bad when I get calls from a guy who kept having issues with spyware on XP, I reinstalled XP twice, he thought it was the machine, and he bought a new one (without asking me first) since he thought it was the computer not his "habits", and he gave me the old one, 2.8ghz, 512 ddr ram, 80 or 160gig hd I forgot, it's a server now...
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> wgato To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add all_generic_ide before the "--"
[02:46] <aib> advanced question: I added APT::Default-Release "hardy"; to /etc/apt/apt.conf and I also added the intrepid main restricted repository to my /etc/apt/sources.list and ran apt-get update ,but when I run `sudo apt-get install -t intrepid hello' it installs the file from the hardy dist, not the intrepid dist
[02:46] <wgato> thanks Felix and Jack, that should keep me busy for a bit
[02:46] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: Most of the folks I helped had some relatively advanced questions; I was surprised.
[02:46] <clsk> erm
[02:47] <spoon_man> bobbob1016, in my experience, a good hosts file can do wonders
[02:47] <clsk> for some reason my /etc/resolv.conf keeps getting overwritten every few minutes
[02:47] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: I never did get a machine handed to me like that, though. heh
[02:47] <spoon_man> but it has to stay updated
[02:47] <clsk> actually it's more like every minute
[02:47] <clsk> I'm trying to set a dns server that I'll be using for a few days, and for some reason it keeps getting reset to the dns server a dhcp servers gives me back home
[02:47] <clsk> any ideas as to why this is happening?
[02:48] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, I showed one woman how to use the mouse, and another guy how to copy DVD's.  But the DVD guy knows just enough to get into trouble, he's had incredimail on there more times than I can count....
[02:48] <killer--tux> can someone plz help me with finch
[02:48] <FelixTheCat> clsk: Are you setting the DNS addresses directly in the text file or through your network settings?
[02:48] <killer--tux> is there a websitefor this ?!? i can find it
[02:49] <myr> hey anyone know if 8.04.1 has been released and where to download it?
[02:49] <GardenHose> does anyone know if newegg charges for regular shipping?
[02:49]  * GardenHose can't remember
[02:49] <clsk> FelixTheCat: I've tried both ways
[02:49] <myr> GardenHose, i think they do
[02:49] <kitche> clsk: dhcp servers will override /etc/resolv.conf you sort of have to force dhclient to use your own dns servers really
[02:49] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: Ugh! I had a few with some pretty heavy spyware infections, but most of them simply needed some help learning how to do stuff.
[02:50] <clsk> kitche: but it's not pulling a dns server from the dhcp server either
[02:50] <clsk> it just keeps getting reset to my dns server at home
[02:51] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: The one I remember the most wanted to learn how to make movies with pictures. He wouldn't use Linux so I taught him Movie Maker.
[02:51] <clsk> it seems like all my information is saved somewhere and whatever it is keeps overwriting /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces
[02:51] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, He was widowed, and he always got spyware, enough said....  There are only so many times you can say "Don't go to any weird sites..."
[02:51] <jgomo3> greetings. alt-tab from emacs freeze the gnome. I have to ctr-alt-f1 and alt-f7 again to return to normality. any body knows about this problem?
[02:52] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: Hah!! Hard to be sensitive when needing to get the point across.
[02:52] <AMLNXUSR> anyone know which app i can use my aim account with?
[02:52] <tr-33> what is a good size for a /var partition?
[02:53] <FelixTheCat> AMLNXUSR: pidgin
[02:53] <FelixTheCat> !pidgin
[02:53] <lordleemo> bobbob1016: i use linux and windows and i love both ive only ever been hit 1 with spyware and was because i let a friend use my computer.? what is wrong with windows
[02:53] <CesarRB> I am looking for some guidance... a week ago after installing some updates the sound died. To test if it was a hardware or software problem I boot from a Kubuntu 7.04 live CD and there was no problem. Btw my pc has Hardy installed. Any ideas?
[02:53] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, I got one woman to buy an everex, but she keeps somehow removing the firefox icon from e17's dock thing, I had to put about 10 icons on there, I said "click the desktop, hit the down arrow twice, the right arrow, down again, then enter, that will open firefox"  "No, didn't work" 5 minutes later, I figured out she was expecting the icon to come back on, and ignoring the firefox windows...  Installing the gnome
[02:53] <bobbob1016>  edition monday
[02:54] <FelixTheCat> tr-33: Depends on what you are using the computer for. If you have a web service or email service, I'd make it about 50% to 60% of the available space.
[02:54] <FelixTheCat> tr-33: Others may have better answers.
[02:55] <kyncani> CesarRB: you may try booting your older (which sould still be lying there), the updated kernel may have broken your sound
[02:55] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: LOL ... yeah, e17 isn't good for beginners.
[02:55] <matthew__> how do I add plug-ins to tomboy notes? Like, where does the file go?
[02:56] <ubunubi> anyone know a good place to get useful desktop widgets?
[02:56] <CesarRB> ﻿kyncani: I'm a newbie, should I look for the kernel package in the Package Manager and force a downgrade?
[02:56] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, No, she just had problems since she didn't want to get rid of her windows 98 machine, I had to install a lan card, to get her on DSL, then it started scandisking each boot, I said everex.  Her problem is she clicks and drags, not just clicks, like most of them
[02:56] <__yy_> can anyone tell me how to get around this: 'sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440'?
[02:57] <__yy_> Additionaly, can someone explain this braindead restriction?
[02:57] <Lunks> __yy_: I believe you should use visudo to edit it
[02:57] <Lunks> Maybe this is somehow related, but I'm just guessing
[02:57] <__yy_> Lunks: which I can't do, becuase I can't sudo
[02:58] <Lunks> __yy_: If you can't sudo, you couldn't chmod it or chown it
[02:58] <ubunubi> __yy_ :: choose the (recovery) option for your kernel in grub, and tell it to drop you to a command line and issue:: chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers  -- then type :: reboot
[02:58] <__yy_> Lunks: I changed the permissions using sudo, after the permissions were changed sudo gives that error
[02:58] <kyncani> Lunks: boot the livecd, chmod 0440 from it
[02:59] <kyncani> __yy_: boot the livecd, chmod 0440 from it
[02:59] <__yy_> ubunubi: I'm really looking for a way that doesn't require a full power cycle
[02:59] <__yy_> kyncani: see above
[02:59] <ubunubi> __yy_: don't think there is one
[02:59] <matthew__> __yy_: there isn't one
[02:59] <__yy_> and why on earth wouldn't there be?
[02:59] <jgomo3> ﻿greetings. alt-tab from emacs freeze the gnome. I have to ctr-alt-f1 and alt-f7 again to return to normality. any body knows about this problem?
[02:59] <matthew__> __yy_: unless you have enabled the root user
[03:00] <FelixTheCat> bobbob1016: Ah. I know there are ways to handle that so folks with shaky hands don't get the result of accidental dragging when clicking. Just don't know offhand.
[03:00] <matthew__> __yy_: then login as root and change it
[03:00] <Lunks> __yy_: Why did you change it? =P
[03:00] <__yy_> matthew__: I have not, but I will once I fix this...
[03:00]  * FelixTheCat must go. Bye!
[03:00] <ubunubi> __yy_: you're more likely to mess something up fixing it another way. just reboot unless your computer controls your breathing machine or something
[03:00] <Lunks> __yy_: It's good to not broke what's working
[03:00] <matthew__> __yy_: its better to leave root disabled, so its harder to brute force
[03:00] <__yy_> Lunks: because I wanted to change it
[03:00] <__yy_> matthew__: yes, but then I have problems like this
[03:00] <Lunks> __yy_: well, guess it doesn't work. :P
[03:01] <bobbob1016> FelixTheCat, Trackballs, but getting them used to them is the problem.
[03:01] <bsusa> hello
[03:01] <__yy_> Lunks: evidentally
[03:01] <genewitch> what is the gecko package for wine called? wine tries to download and install it, but it isn't working :-)
[03:01] <svenstaro> ubunubi, i think i just owned myself doing the conversion from mb to mib :)
[03:01] <matthew__> __yy_: you don't mess with the sudoers file, you "need" to use visudo, it does some sanity checks and makes sure that sudo will take the sudoers fi;e
[03:01] <ubunubi> svenstaro: 1024*MB=MiB
[03:01] <Lunks> __yy_: I often try to break things myself too, but looks like you learn what you could from your experience: /etc/sudoers should remain 440 so it doesn't break
[03:02] <bsusa> hello does anyone know how to change custom resolutions when running a game from the terminal?
[03:02] <Lunks> bsusa: look for xrandr
[03:02] <Lunks> !xrandr
[03:02] <svenstaro> ubunubi, isnt 1024*MB=GB ?
[03:02] <Lunks> Hmm I believe it works for resolutions, too. :)
[03:02] <ubunubi> svenstaro: GB would be MB/1024..and GiB would be MiB/1024
[03:03] <matthew__> how do I add plug-ins to tomboy notes? Like, where does the file go?
[03:04] <__yy_> Lunks: indeed, what I am saying is that this is a horrible way for something to break
[03:04] <Lunks> __yy_: really awkward, yes
[03:04] <svenstaro> ubunubi, i cant believe it, i actually managed to resize the partition and not kill it using fdsik and ntfsresize
[03:04] <Lunks> __yy_: but you have to realise you changed it for no reason. :P
[03:04] <ubunubi> svenstaro: grats
[03:04] <__yy_> matthew__: evidentially *I* mess with the sudoers file, and think this is a terrible little corner that you can easily mash yourself into
[03:04] <svenstaro> ubunubi, and my raid is fully functioning.. now for installing ubuntu and creating linux partitions
[03:04] <__yy_> Lunks: I changed it to add sudo permissions to a user, I have never heard of visudo until just now
[03:05] <bsusa> thats for dual screens though
[03:05] <matthew__> __yy_: I admit to avoiding using visudo too, its annoying to get it to use a graphical editor instead of vim, but its a real risk to run
[03:06] <Lunks> __yy_: I believe I could edit /etc/sudoers using nano
[03:06] <opus_two> I have kubuntu 8.04.. I was able to see NTFS drives in computer but now permisson denied and cant mount them
[03:06] <__yy_> matthew__: I'm really not following you here... I'm using vim for editing, but the problem is the permissions
[03:06] <tech0007> !ntfs | opus_two
[03:06] <__yy_> Lunks: only if you want to cause yourself pain with such a backwards editor
[03:06] <MrLinux> Hello
[03:07] <cgibin> evening..
[03:07] <Lunks> __yy_: It's simpler than vim for me. :)
[03:07] <cgibin> my system is 32 bit amd i only see the 64
[03:07] <MrLinux> I have a question, If I install Desktop can I remove it and have only server edition ?
[03:07] <cgibin> oh god
[03:07] <__yy_> Lunks: yes, the instructions at the bottom are handy if you don't know what your're dong
[03:08] <Lunks> __yy_: I don't know how to use vim until now and it's been 1 hear or so using Linux, so I guess you can live with it. :D
[03:08] <mjburling> I keep trying to make from the /lib/modules/2.x.x.x/build directory and it keeps giving me the error that it cannot cd to said directory.
[03:08] <Lunks> !patiente | cgibin
[03:08] <Lunks> !patient | cgibin
[03:08] <Lunks> lol
[03:09] <Lunks> !wait | cgibin
[03:09] <Lunks> Hey, what am I looking for? =P
[03:09] <Lunks> !factoids
[03:09] <FloodBot1> Lunks: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <__yy_> Lunks: try switching back and forth between vim and emacs several times a day and then you will truly know how confusing editors can be
[03:09] <tech0007> lol
[03:09] <dsmith_> !snack
[03:10] <mjburling> Any ideas as to why make reports the error that it cannot cd to the build directory?
[03:10] <BCM43> !bot abouse
[03:10] <BCM43> !bot abuse
[03:10] <cgibin> !ubottu
[03:10] <dsmith_> BCM43: nice nick, finally got broadcom drivers working in 8.04
[03:10] <matthew__> !botsnack
[03:10] <cgibin> !ubottu abuse
[03:10] <genewitch> Wine crashes gracefully when it tries to install gecko from within wine, any place where i can download the package and install manually?
[03:11] <matthew__> how do I add plug-ins to tomboy notes? Like, where does the file go?
[03:11] <cgibin> need to find out were is the 32bit ubuntu download for amd
[03:11] <matthew__> cgibin: you use normal 32bit ubuntu
[03:12] <Uplink> my firefox is not playing video :(
[03:12] <genewitch> video or flash, uplink?
[03:12] <cgibin> well this work for 32bit system ubuntu-7.10-server-amd64.iso
[03:12] <Uplink> genewitch, video :(
[03:12] <genewitch> cgibin: uh, that's 64bit
[03:12] <genewitch> and server. and an old version
[03:12] <spoon_man> uh, cgibin, try the website
[03:12] <cgibin> why do i need to install a desktop .. i m trying to install a server not a desktop
[03:13] <Lunks> !patience | cgibin
[03:13] <Lunks> This is what I was looking for. :D
[03:13] <tech0007> cgibin http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[03:13] <matthew__> cgibin: just download the plain server file from the website
[03:13] <BCM43> dsmith_: thanks, this nick is so i know when people mention it in the channel
[03:13] <Uplink> my firefox is not playing video :(
[03:13] <cgibin> matthew__, do you understand about bit
[03:14] <cgibin> damm thing is not design for 64
[03:14] <spoon_man> lol wut
[03:14] <matthew__> cgibin: get the 32bit one then
[03:14] <cgibin> on 64 you can install 32
[03:14] <bsusa> Culd someone please tell what could be the problem if i change resolutions while in the game the game just freezes? Is their any way of chageing the resolution or am i stuck with 640x480?
[03:14] <cgibin> are you that clueless
[03:14] <mjburling> my finger nails hurt
[03:14] <matthew__> cgibin: I know that
[03:14] <cgibin> do you understand i m posting
[03:14] <spoon_man> no
[03:14] <matthew__> cgibin: do you want 32 bit or 64 bit?
[03:15] <cgibin> let me install debian i give up on this ubuntu, jucking the kernel from debian system and making fun of debian, thats just not right
[03:15] <matthew__> cgibin: if you want 32, just get the plain server version from the site
[03:15] <spoon_man> k
[03:15] <bsusa> spoonOman: was that a no to my question?
[03:15] <spoon_man> !res | bsusa
[03:17] <themime> are there any known issues with madwifi drivers and ubuntu?  i can't figure out how to get wifi0 and ath0 to show up in iwconfig. it says once the drivers are loaded it should just appear, but it doesn't.  i know it _can_ work because i used backtrack 3 live cd and it uses the madwifi drivers and it works perfectly. any ideas?
[03:17] <bsusa> spoonOman: its in the game not the desktop resolution. When i change it in the game it tries to change but freezes.
[03:18] <bsusa> spoonOman: the game runs fine on 640x480 but its a low reso
[03:18] <spoon_man> ah
[03:19] <spoon_man> bsusa, what game is it, and are you using wine?
[03:19] <bsusa> Its Conan: The Dark Axe, not the new one
[03:19] <bsusa> im using cedega
[03:20] <F4HT4W> where can i get glib?
[03:20] <bsusa> in wine it doesnt work, only loads half was then stops
[03:20] <matthew__> !tomboy
[03:20] <tech0007> F4HT4W: try 'apt-search cache glib'
[03:20] <matthew__> how do I add plug-ins to tomboy notes?
[03:20] <F4HT4W> thank you
[03:21] <F4HT4W> apt-search didnt work
[03:21] <mjburling> apt-cache search
[03:21] <tech0007> F4HT4W: my bad apt-cache search glib
[03:21] <F4HT4W> ok cool that worked thank you
[03:22] <Flux-D> Can anyone give me the result for uname -r, on desktop and server version of Ubuntu Hardy?
[03:22] <tech0007> Flux-D: im on desktop -> 2.6.24-19-generic
[03:23] <Flux-D> ty
[03:23] <Flux-D> ty tech0007
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> bsusa cedgea and wine both have channels for support
[03:23] <bsusa> oh
[03:23] <prologic> heya all. I have built a simple web server based on BaseHTTPServer using Pyhtnon-2.5: I have a problem with the machine I'm running it on. On my Macbook Air (Intel Core 2 Duo 1.6Ghz 2G RAM) I get ~900 reqs/s. On an Ubuntu 8.04 machine (Python 2.5) AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Quad Code, 4G RAM, I get ~190 req/s. What's going on with my Ubuntu servers and why the performance drag ?
[03:23] <F4HT4W> ok here is my problem.  trying to compile xchat 2.8.6 and the error message is configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[03:24] <bog> is there a way to now if a .exe is going to work with wine on Linux?
[03:24] <Flux-D> F4HT4W, http://vivapinkfloyd.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-to-compile-and-install-xchat-286-on.html
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
[03:24] <Flux-D> F4HT4W, I used that and it worked fine
[03:24] <tech0007> F4HT4W: you need build-essential and devs (ie libglib2.0-dev) i think
[03:24] <bog> thanks!
[03:26] <F4HT4W> thank you Flux-D and tech0007
[03:26] <F4HT4W> i will try those
[03:26] <bsusa> Jack_Sparrow: I cannot enter the #wine channel it says invites only. How can i get in?
[03:26] <bog> the problem is that is not a Microsoft app.. is a app done for windows, a personal app, so .... the only way to know is testing it?
[03:27] <Leefmc> Question: Are there any hurdles if i want to install 100% Ubuntu on my Mac Pro?
[03:27] <tech0007> bsusa: try #winehq
[03:27] <leonedu> hello,everyone.
[03:27] <J_E_K> sup
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bsusa that has never been an issue.. were you in there in the past
[03:27] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> helo people!
[03:28] <Flux-D> sup
[03:28] <bog> #winehq???
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> tech0007 yea.. /join #winehq
[03:28] <bog> cool
[03:28] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> leonedu, r u alone?
[03:28] <leonedu> Yeah.
[03:28] <bsusa> Jack_Sparrow: no never
[03:29] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> me 2
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:29] <leonedu> In fact, I don't know how to use this IRC thing yet.
[03:29] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> honestly, me 2. i'm new in ubuntu
[03:30] <leonedu> Nice to talk to you here.
[03:30] <tech0007> !welcome | leonedu
[03:30] <tech0007> !welcome | ﻿f0xy_p1r4t3s
[03:30] <DIL> not a social contact site though
[03:30] <leonedu> Nice to you all.
[03:31] <mjburling> Anyone have any ideas as to why make keeps returning that it cannot cd to the build directory?
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Flux-D FYI Xchat 2.8.6 is on getdeb packaged for hardy..
[03:31] <Leechzilla> how do I check if my X server is running (xvfb)?
[03:32] <Flux-D> Jack_Sparrow, I know I just wanted to compile my own version
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mjburling a poorly written script for something other than ubuntu or possibly redhat?
[03:32] <mjburling> Hmm.
[03:32] <RAdams> anyone here running a dell latitude, any model? doing a test with alps trackpad and powernowd... the more models it can be tested against, the better the patch to powernowd can be.
[03:32] <mjburling> Possibly.
[03:32] <FlyingWV> Hello, I have a question regarding permissions, if anyone could help
[03:33] <RAdams> !ask | FlyingWV
[03:33] <Storrgie> roar.
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> redbox I have it on a coupe of Dels c610's and 640's
[03:33] <mjburling> Jack_Sparrow: It's definitely written for ubuntu, as far as its quality I cannot speak to that.
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> RAdams sorry typo..
[03:33] <mjburling> But it's been used by many other people with success.
[03:34] <FlyingWV> Ah, sorry, question is this... I'm on a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.04, just installed irssi my IRC client of choice, but it's denying my permission to save the configuration file in my /home folder
[03:34] <RAdams> Jack_Sparrow: not sure if the problem covers those models, you would know better: ever lose trackpad sync and had it start jumping, fail to follow, or block input altogether, especially while under low loads?
[03:35] <soundcyst> is there an app like HandBrake for ubuntu? i want to set up a home media station, but it seems to make more sense financially to get a new ubuntu machine from dell than a used apple G4
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> RAdams no but you can do a search for laptop testing ubuntu and find alot of info
[03:35] <th0r> soundcyst, and what does handbrake do?
[03:35] <ali_> how do i updtae a prgoram to get the latest version
[03:36] <soundcyst> it's dvd-backup/ripping/encoding software
[03:36] <Mesiox> hey guys, do u know where i can get some wifi cracking tools? i have madwifi for my atheros ar5007eg wireless adapter.. any clue?
[03:36] <RAdams> Jack_Sparrow: I've got the problem solved, I think. but i've only tested it on this one dell, and I want to see if the fix is universal
[03:36] <bog> thanks , you're great!
[03:36] <th0r> soundcyst, you might look at brasero for burning, acidrip for ripping, and dvd95 for converting from 9gb to 5gb
[03:36] <ali_> whyis amaya so messed up
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> mjburling what exactly are you trying to compile and do you have a link
[03:36] <soundcyst> oh geez, i'm retarded. handbrake is open source and linux instructions =P
[03:37] <xenoglossia> Hi!  I'm having trouble formatting a 7.8 GB USB flash drive.  I'm a real novice . . . I think there's some problem with a superblock . . . ?  Anyways, I'm trying to make two partitions, but I can't make the second partition in the second half of the flash drive -- I can make the second partition in the first half of the USB drive, but that way, I can't use the other half of the flash drive.  What am I doing wrong?  :)
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> xenoglossia what are you using to format the flash
[03:37] <xenoglossia> gparted
[03:37] <matthew__> Mesiox: aircrack-ng is in the reps, and coWPAtty can be used for breaking WPA using a dictionary. Remember that you should only use this on people who give you consent to  audit their network
[03:37] <xenoglossia> and I've been trying fdisk, too
[03:38] <svenstaro> ubunubi, hopefully i did these bits of math right, sector to cylinder to megabyte to mebibyte conversion, that is :P i usually get bad math grades
[03:38] <leonedu> I think I've found a bug in pidgin. Sometimes, once I enter full of characters in the inputbox, it just crashes down. Does anyone have any ideas about this?
[03:38] <xenoglossia> sorry -- that was weird
[03:38] <ubunubi> svenstaro: you can generally double check your results with online unit calculators
[03:38] <tech0007> xenoglossia: partition the flash using either gparted or fdisk, then format it using mkfs
[03:38] <Mesiox> matthew__: of coarse, but how do i get it?
[03:38] <svenstaro> ubunubi, yeah im using qalculate
[03:39] <matthew__> Mesiox: aircrack-ng or coWPAtty ?
[03:39] <xenoglossia> tech0007: I've been trying that, but every time I format it, Ubuntu can't mount the second partition
[03:39] <Mesiox> aircrack-ng?
[03:39] <Mesiox> matthew__ can it crack any network?
[03:39] <matthew__> Mesiox: not all, but many
[03:39] <Mesiox> matthew__: ahh i c
[03:40] <tech0007> xenoglossia: what filesystem did u put into the flash, and what is the error when uformat
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !piracy
[03:40] <svenstaro> ubunubi, installing ubuntu like this is a major pain though :(
[03:40] <ubunubi> svenstaro: you were past the most major hurdle..just keep your fingers crossed
[03:40] <matthew__> Jack_Sparrow: aircrack-ng is a security auditing tool, not illegal
[03:41] <matthew__> Mesiox: If you are using it to break the law I can't help you
[03:41] <svenstaro> ubunubi, the guide tells me to install ubuntu manually just like i would install gentoo, should i follow that or should i go ahead and try to install the normal way? my paritions are all in place
[03:41] <Leechzilla> When I start an X server with Xvfb, I get this error - _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
[03:41] <StevenX> how can i export a list of installed packages through the terminal
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> matthew__ I do understand and we need to be very careful about how much we support it.  SOmeone involved in legal acitvities is unlikely to need basic help in how to use or set it up
[03:42] <FAHTAW> will this matter?    Warning: The GTK (GUI) frontend will not be built.
[03:42] <ubunubi> svenstaro: you can do a regular install..but when it asks about partitions, tell it you want to do it manually...then tell it how you have them setup, so it doesn't do any partition-hanky-panky for you..then the rest of the install should be okay
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[03:42] <ilowe> StevenX: dpkg --list
[03:42] <matthew__> Jack_Sparrow:  Very true Mesiox: I bet aircrack-ng has its own channel, go there
[03:42] <svenstaro> ubunubi, oky, will try, im just worried because the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto suggest a completely different appraoch
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> matthew__ thanks..
[03:43] <StevenX> ilowe, how can i export that onto a file, instead of just seeing it come up in the terminal window
[03:43] <xenoglossia> Specifically, when I try to mount the flash drive (sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc2 /media/ubuntu), I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24885/
[03:43] <ilowe> StevenX: dpkg --list > myfile.txt
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX did you see the link I brought up on clone
[03:44] <StevenX> !clone
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> type                     dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[03:44] <StevenX> thanks.
[03:44] <RAdams> oh that's a nice tip
[03:44] <tech0007> xenoglossia: did u 'sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc2'
[03:44] <ubunubi> svenstaro: i dont see anything majorly different. it looks like they're issue commands directly to the command line that the ubuntu installer will use -- just to have absolute control over the process -- should be okay if you're careful
[03:44] <matthew__> tomboy notes doesn't seem to be finding my add-in, anyone know what I could be doing wrong?
[03:44] <xenoglossia> tech0007: yes
[03:45] <SchighSchagh> hey guys. anyone know a good soundcard that's well supported in ubuntu?
[03:45] <Storrgie> Could I get some help creating a raid5 array with mdadm?
[03:46] <ilowe> StevenX: depends what you want to use it for YMMV
[03:46] <ubunubi> svenstaro: just make sure NOT to reboot until you've done the manual grub build they suggest
[03:46] <xenoglossia> tech0007: nothing happened
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > SchighSchagh
[03:46] <StevenX> ilowe, I'm moving from ubuntu to kubuntu, and want to make sure that  install all the packages I have on this machine.
[03:46] <StevenX> !clone
[03:46] <tech0007> xenoglossia: paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc'
[03:46] <svenstaro> ubunubi, of course, also ill need to chroot in order to install the dmraid package i reckon
[03:47] <pan03243> noob question how do i mount my windows ntfs drive in console?
[03:47] <ubunubi> pan03243: do you ahve the ntfs-3g package installed?
[03:47] <pan03243> yes
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX Why not just install kubuntu-desktop and set the default where you login
[03:47] <pan03243> im able to mount ntfs
[03:47] <xenoglossia> tech0007: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24888/
[03:47] <svenstaro> ubunubi, its installing.. fingers crossed.
[03:47] <pan03243> but wanting to do it through console
[03:48] <ubunubi> pan03243: sudo mount ntfs-3g /dev/XXX nls=iso8859-1 0 0
[03:48] <xenoglossia> tech0007: I noticed something else weird -- gparted thinks that sdc1 is ext2 and that sdc1 is 3.05 GB used
[03:48] <ali_> wat r some web development programs for ubuntu?
[03:48] <StevenX> Jack_Sparrow, it's not working as nice as I thought it would, so I'm gonan try this way.
[03:48] <xenoglossia> tech0007: sdc1 is empty
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX np
[03:49] <xenoglossia> tech0007: gparted shows sdc2 as filesystem "unknown"
[03:49] <tech0007> xenoglossia: try redoing the partition and format using fdisk only
[03:49] <Leechzilla> How do I start an X server with Xvfb?
[03:49] <acp_> i is there a quivalent command like lsusb to see what kind of webcam im using? I have a built-in web com in my laptop Im using a fujitsu U2900 mmodel
[03:50] <xenoglossia> I've tried that -- still can't mount
[03:50] <xenoglossia> Shoot.  I have to go now.  Thanks much!
[03:50] <tech0007> acp_: lsusb shld list ur webcam if its usb
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> acp_ sudo lshw
[03:51] <Leechzilla> !xvfb
[03:53] <EagleScreen> join /python
[03:53] <EagleScreen> i obtain You need to be identified to join that channel
[03:55] <Bernar> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:55] <bogeyman> what all packages should i dl if i wanna play music etc and also i keep getting a error on this fresh install of 8.04 trying to mount my NTFS drive
[03:55] <Leefmc> Question: Doesn't ubuntu come with the MP3 codec? A friend of mine is getting an error when trying to play an MP3 about a missing codec.  (Specifically, Totem wants an MP3 Decoder..)
[03:55] <o0onullzo0o> ubuntu has no mp3
[03:55] <tech0007> Leefmc: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:55] <bazhang> bogeyman, install ubuntu-restricted-extras from repos and win32codecs from www.medibuntu.org, also get vlc
[03:56] <tech0007> !ntfs | bogeyman
[03:56] <Leefmc> Question: Does Ubuntu have some type of remote desktop? I need to (across the internet) log into his machine to try and figure out his IPod troubles
[03:56] <o0onullzo0o> I meant ubuntu doesnot have mp3 default
[03:56] <Leefmc> tech0007: Does that contain anything for an IPod?
[03:56] <Leefmc> tech0007: Most of his troubles revolve around his ipod not working right.
[03:56] <Leefmc> tech0007: In Rhythmbox that is
[03:56] <o0onullzo0o> what are you going to do with the ipod
[03:56] <tech0007> Leefmc: that package only enables multimedia playback capability
[03:57] <tech0007> Leefmc: and other stuff as well
[03:57] <Leefmc> o0onullzo0o: He wants to put music on it heh.. Rhythmbox isn't letting him. Though i can't say for sure what the situation is, since i can't see it at the moment
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc it cant come with mp3 out of the box
[03:57] <BRIGHTshadow525> How I get flash player running...?
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[03:57] <tiglionabbit> hm.  My cintiq (wacom tablet monitor) isn't working properly in ubuntu.  I followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765915 but it behaves like this guy describes http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5126970&highlight=cintiq#post5126970
[03:57] <Leefmc> o0onullzo0o: I gave him an MP3 i know works, and he dragged it on to his ipod and it didnt work. Though oddly enough, he can play the music on his ipod through Rhythmbox
[03:58] <tech0007> Leefmc: ipod shld work outofthe box in hardy
[03:58] <Leefmc> tech0007: Yea, "should" heh.
[03:58] <tech0007> lol
[03:58] <BRIGHTshadow525> Someone...?
[03:58] <o0onullzo0o> I have no help sry
[03:58] <tech0007> !ask | BRIGHTshadow525
[03:58] <Leefmc> Question: Does Ubuntu have some type of remote desktop? I need to (across the internet) log into his machine to try and figure out his IPod troubles
[03:58] <bazhang> !flash
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc yes...
[03:59] <Firstmate> o.O, Anyone know a good iso burner?
[03:59] <EagleScreen> BRIGHTshadow525 have u install flashplugin-nonfree?
[03:59] <bazhang> BRIGHTshadow525, see above
[03:59] <Firstmate> free perferable.
[03:59] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Term or something please, so i can google :)
[03:59] <bazhang> Firstmate, right click iso burn with cd/dvd creator
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Firstmate right click the iso and write to disk
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> lee one sec.
[03:59] <tech0007> Leefmc: try remote desktop viewer or termianl server client
[03:59] <Storrgie> anyone familair with MDADM?
[03:59] <Firstmate> lol, maybe I asked wrong
[03:59] <sigma_faktor> tiglionabbit: I don't know for the cintiq, but my intuos 3 work perfectly (it's just wrong that the driver is not more easy to install)
[03:59] <willy> Hello, encountered a problem on my notebook; can't get usb /msg hello?
[03:59] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: And it works over the internet right? (ie, a lan is not required?)
[03:59] <Firstmate> Anyone know a good iso bruning program?
[03:59] <Firstmate> burning*
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc rdesktop  http://www.techmongrel.com/29/remote-desktop-ubuntu-710-from-windows/
[04:00] <bazhang> Firstmate, read our responses
[04:00] <Jab> why does ubuntu 8.04 not recogize a realtek network card?
[04:00] <tech0007> Firstmate: brasero's is good
[04:00] <EagleScreen> Firstmate ImgBurn
[04:00] <o0onullzo0o> isoburn
[04:00] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Actually its ubuntu to ubuntu, is remote desktop still the best option?
[04:00] <tech0007> Jab it does on my PC
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Firstmate to create one or burn one, in windows or ubuntu
[04:00] <bazhang> EagleScreen, imgburn? he means ubuntu
[04:00] <Jab> Not on mine.
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc I like it
[04:00] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: K i'll look into it, thank you
[04:01] <EagleScreen> bazhang it works very well in wine :D
[04:01] <Firstmate> Jack_Sparrow, from windows, for ubuntu
[04:01] <tech0007> jab  'dmesg | grep RealTek
[04:01] <o0onullzo0o> why use a emulator eaglescreen
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Firstmate isorecorder
[04:01] <Jab> The setup had troubles with network setup. The card is not renabled.
[04:01] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: all i need is his IP and pass right? (and hoping he has his ports open, cuz that'll be a pain to explain)
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !burniso
[04:01] <EagleScreen> o0onullzo0o why is made it then?
[04:02] <bazhang> EagleScreen, best to offer native solution first
[04:02] <arooni-mobile> i use unison to sync files between my gutsy desktop and gutsy laptop.  i try to sync with unison, but get the error message "Permission denied (publickey,password)." ... the weird thing is when i run the same command i have in crontab (non root user), unison works perfectly well.  additionally i can ssh in fine (without passwords etc) using ssh chasetoys@foo.dyndns.org ; any ideas on how to fix?
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc if behind a router you will need port forwarding no matter what you use
[04:02] <goldsniper> hi
[04:02] <goldsniper> hello
[04:02] <Firstmate> So which is better? Imgburn or isorecorder?
[04:02] <Firstmate> >.>
[04:02] <tech0007> !welcome | goldsniper
[04:02] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: He will, i know. I hope he isn't though :)
[04:02] <EagleScreen> bazhang please tell me a native app as good as imgburn
[04:02] <andy_> brasero is akin to imgburn..i guess
[04:02] <goldsniper> i need help to set up my wireless in my acer travelmate 2400
[04:03] <EagleScreen> goldsniper have you correct driver installed?
[04:03] <bogeyman> got a ? i ran the script option to mount my ntfs partition it worked but i didnt realize to be able to write to them i needed to say yes so im wondering if its possible to undo the mount and redo it over?
[04:03] <tech0007> !info brasero | EagleScreen
[04:03] <bazhang> goldsniper, what chipset; lspci will tell you
[04:03] <BRIGHTshadow525> So.... Flash doesn't work in 8.04?
[04:03] <goldsniper> i did tried to find info in forum but failed
[04:03] <goldsniper> bazhang..wait a sec, ok
[04:03] <tech0007> bogeyman: sudo umount
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> bogeyman If you used diskmounter.. STOP now..
[04:03] <bazhang> goldsniper, only the one line here thanks
[04:03] <bogeyman> well it was the one on the link
[04:04] <o0onullzo0o> flash works, you may have to download the package
[04:04] <EagleScreen> ubottu brasero is less good than imgburn
[04:04] <bogeyman> so what should i do lol im new to ubuntu
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bogeyman What link
[04:04] <bogeyman> !ntfs bogeyman
[04:04] <bogeyman> that link i dunno
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs
[04:04] <tech0007> bogeyman: right click on it and unmount
[04:04] <goldsniper> bazhang : 05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[04:04] <BRIGHTshadow525> o0onullzo0o: I'm confused.... I thought flash didn't work.. If it does.. How...?
[04:04] <bogeyman> not privileged
[04:04] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff goldsniper
[04:05] <goldsniper> bazhang : ok i'll try
[04:05] <goldsniper> thanks
[04:05] <tech0007> bogeyman: open terminal, then 'sudo umount /mountdirectory'
[04:05] <EagleScreen> tech0007 brasero is less good than imgburn
[04:05] <tech0007> EagleScreen: does all what i want, you can take ur pick
[04:06] <mneptok> EagleScreen: Brasero is included in the base distribution, imgburn is not.
[04:06] <bogeyman> how do i find the right letter etc?
[04:06] <accid> ehy
[04:06] <acp_> Hi Jack_Sparrow I just made lshw seem that its not detected can you verify it? I also do a lsusb. output can be seen here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24890/
[04:06] <accid> hey
[04:07] <EagleScreen> ok tech0007 then use it, imgburn gives me features that brasero not, because it i recomend brasero as a burning program ans i recommend imgburn as a GOOD burning program
[04:07] <o0onullzo0o> brightshadow go to youtube, and click on install missing packages
[04:07] <acp_> what Im doing is trying to make my webcam work in gyahci-improve
[04:07] <tech0007> EagleScreen: :)
[04:07] <bogeyman> how do i know which drive letter it is tech0007?
[04:08] <willy> Having a problem using a usb mouse on my notebook with hardy
[04:08] <tech0007> bogeyman: which directory do u see your ntfs partition?
[04:08] <Jab> What bitorrent client is recommended ?
[04:08] <o0onullzo0o> i use deluge
[04:08] <tech0007> bogeyman: u can check using nautilus or 'mount' on terminal
[04:08] <willy> suspect it has something to do with ndiswrapper.
[04:08] <bogeyman> umm under Computer
[04:08] <BRIGHTshadow525> o0onullzo0o: I went to a video and it had a link to install flash player. I went there before already.
[04:09] <bazhang> jab transmission comes by default with hardy
[04:09] <eyyYo> Is there a way to limit upload/download speed for an application? Lets say I want to restrict Firefox download to only 20 kb/s.
[04:09] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: You do need their username and password i assume? (for remote desktop)
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc they set it up on their end.. not their user name and pass
[04:10] <EagleScreen> !info wine | EagleScreen
[04:10] <willy> I installed ndiswrapper from source so as to have wireless access
[04:10] <accid> hmm forget the link to the ubuntu installer
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc system admin rdesktop.. that link I gave is pretty good
[04:10] <Blaqlight> gotta love wireless.
[04:10] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: K, it explains the ubuntu server side of the rdesktop?
[04:10] <o0onullzo0o> opps  sry, have you enabled extra repositories
[04:11] <willy> when I am in live cd mode, the mouse works perfectly
[04:11] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Seems so, thanks
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc I can give you the walkthrough I used for my 74 year old father in law..
[04:12] <willy> when I boot off the hd, I'm forced to use the touchpad. No good
[04:12] <chong> hi; im having problems with skype on x64
[04:13] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Copy paste? Or would you be writing it out? If your writing it out dont worry about it :)
[04:13] <chong> i've gotten it to install, but i get "ALSA lib ../../../src/pcm/pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" errors.
[04:13] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: This is actually a coworker of mine who was gettin beaten by windows and i got him to use ubuntu. It works great for him, aside from his IPod problems.
[04:13] <goldsniper> bazhang : will this work for hardy also?
[04:13] <alan_cool> alo
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc bare facts..   http://paste.ubuntu.com/24891/
[04:14] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:14] <chong> im on hardy btw
[04:14] <BRIGHTshadow525> I'm setting up evolution right now... For the receiving mail part.. I don't know what server to put...
[04:15] <Sa[i]nT> Anyway I can do the media extender thing with Ubuntu that vista does with the xbox360?
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc let me know if that works for you or suggestion you may have
[04:15] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: I'll probably be trying with him this weekend
[04:15] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Mainly though, im stumped over his ipod problems.. sucks heh
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc I am usually around.. cya later
[04:15] <acp_> BRIGHTshadow525: depends on what mail your using for example if your using gmail using pop.gmail.com
[04:15] <CeWe_iMoEt> alooo
[04:16] <pan03243> how do i unmount hdd?
[04:16] <luchador> anyone know why when i try to launch counterstrike source my monitor fades black and i get a frequency out of range error?
[04:16] <pan03243> ntfs hdd?
[04:16] <LimCore> hello friends
[04:16] <LimCore> does ubuntu include an Shut the fuck up, b****! option?
[04:17] <bazhang> LimCore, no cursing
[04:17] <LimCore> in example, now k3b scared me by playing loud some lame sound for "disc recorded successfully"
[04:17] <BRIGHTshadow525> acp_: I'm using gmail. So for the sending part, do I put the same server?
[04:17] <Leechzilla> How do I start an X server with Xvfb?
[04:18] <willy> it's a bugel
[04:18] <acp_> for sending part you have to ask your provider for there smtp
[04:18] <luchador> anyone know why i get the frequency out of range error when i try to launch a game
[04:18] <LimCore> kde sounds, gnome sounds, for user, for root, for other users, xshell, bash, vim, firefox... there is like 20 settings to simply tell Ubuntu to #$%^&*(! (to be quiet).  Isnt there any simplier way?
[04:18] <Sa[i]nT> Anyway I can do the media extender thing with Ubuntu that vista does with the xbox360?
[04:18] <acp_> unless you know your smtp
[04:18] <ubunubi> luchador:: while i can't tell you how to fix it -- something in your settings is changing your monitor's refresh rate when your (3d??) game is launched
[04:19] <spoon_man> Sa[i]nT, have you tried x360MediaServe?
[04:19] <luchador> yeah its not an error from ubuntu ubunubi its an error from my monitor
[04:19] <q_a_z_steve> Can anyone help me make my WUBI install into a full install? I'm running out of room.
[04:20] <ubunubi> luchador:: i'd browse through your games configuration files and see if you can find where it stores it's refresh rate setting. it's trying to tell your monitor to refresh more than it's physically capable of, hence the notice on the screen
[04:20] <LimCore> no such option then?
[04:20] <bazhang> http://wubi-installer.org/support.php q_a_z_steve
[04:21] <willy> No thoughts on my usb mouse-notebook issue?
[04:22] <Sa[i]nT> spoon_man: I'm looking into it.
[04:23] <ubunubi> anyone know if it's possible to run ubuntu with the 2.6.25.10 kernel?
[04:26] <q_a_z_steve> thanks bazhang is there also, by chance, a irc chan? to work through it?
[04:26] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve, let me check hang on a sec
[04:27] <q_a_z_steve> thx
[04:27] <Bora> is there a way to join public rooms on skype? on ubuntu, there is no list of public rooms so how can i enter a public room?
[04:29] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide q_a_z_steve
[04:30] <computer> what is something as good as limewire?
[04:30] <computer> or better
[04:30] <Ahadiel> computer, frostwire
[04:30] <Allothernickstak> frostwire
[04:31] <computer> k thanx
[04:31] <bazhang> !frostwire
[04:33] <arooni-mobile> given directory foo;  how do i get the total size of all files + directories within it?
[04:33] <LimCore> arooni-mobile: du -sh   in console.  or tools in GUI
[04:33] <aurynn> I'm having issues with my Macbook and 8.04, the WiFi is really finicky
[04:33] <LimCore> aurynn: I dunno.. try googling for it perhaps
[04:33] <dfgas> does linux have the memory memory issues on 32bit? the 4gb limit?
[04:33] <aurynn> It's an Atheros chipset, apparently
[04:34] <computer> cool i just found out that its better to do a clean server install then run a virtual system within it :) awesome!
[04:34] <andy_> dfgas, yes
[04:34] <andy_> dfgas, PAE can be enabled on linux better i think, though
[04:34] <andy_> dfgas, linux 32 will still not be able to addres over 3.5gb if you've got 4 gigs, or how much ever your device resources take up
[04:36] <Commie_Cary> are those vase ubuntu speakers good?
[04:36] <Commie_Cary> are those vase ubuntu speakers good?
[04:37] <bogeyman> lol i guess im lost
[04:37] <bogeyman> !ntfs
[04:38] <aurynn> It's really finicky to get it on the network, and it's definitely having problems staying associated
[04:38] <Bora> how to mount a drive that is NTFS
[04:38] <computer> how do i make vlc my default player for frostwire?
[04:38] <Leechzilla> How do I start an X server with Xvfb?
[04:39] <nocive> Bora, sudo ntfs-3d /dev/<drive> <mount point>
[04:39] <nocive> ntfs-3g
[04:40] <svenstaro> ubunubi, screw this :/ ill just use a second internal drive connected to the IDE and use the bios to change the boot
[04:41] <ubunubi> svenstaro: where did things go sour?
[04:41] <bogeyman> YES
[04:41] <bogeyman> finally lol
[04:41] <bogeyman> got my ntfs working :)
[04:41] <svenstaro> ubunubi, when i realized grub needed a primary partition and i couldnt resize the expanded partition windows created
[04:41] <Dev_N00B> oh... thought you got waffles
[04:42] <millertime_018> hey i need some help with emerald
[04:42] <bogeyman> i got waffles also lol
[04:42] <dave_> hey guys
[04:42] <ubunubi> svenstaro: why can't you resize the windows partition?
[04:42] <millertime_018> ive used emerald --replace &disown
[04:42] <millertime_018> but when i restart or anything i have to run it again
[04:42] <bogeyman> anyone know how to get codecs etc to play mp3 and movies?
[04:42] <millertime_018> how can i enter it once and then not have to enter it again?
[04:43] <svenstaro> ubunubi, because im not resizing the system partition or touch it in anyway, i have a backup, but still, i just crashed my data partition and i hope i can recover it
[04:43] <godofwar> I installed wine just a bit ago and did online forum instructions to install world of warcraft...the copying over from windows part at least...but when I try to run the game I get Segmentation fault.
[04:43] <nocive> millertime_018: create a script and add to your startup
[04:43] <millertime_018> ...
[04:43] <bogeyman> !codecs
[04:43] <Commie_Cary> are those vase ubuntu speakers good?!?!?!
[04:44] <millertime_018> nocive: I had to have my computer reset recently and wiped the entire drive. before that i had ubuntu installed and i didn't have to keep entering the code or make a script to add to startup
[04:44] <nocive> millertime_018: are u using compiz-fusion?
[04:44] <millertime_018> nocive: is there any other way?
[04:44] <millertime_018> yea i am using compiz-fusion
[04:44] <nocive> sec
[04:44] <computer> can i download from more than 8 hosts on frostwire?
[04:44] <ber1> i use frostwire to download mp3 files. it downloads them fine, and they work fine in outside players, but i am unable to play the files through frostwires built in player. any ideas?
[04:44] <mneptok> bogeyman: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:45] <Dev_N00B> Does anyone know if the netcell based Raid 0/1/3 card is supported on ubuntu installs where ubuntu is installed on the array as a loop mounted partition?
[04:45] <godofwar> I installed wine just a bit ago and did online forum instructions to install world of warcraft...the copying over from windows part at least...but when I try to run the game I get Segmentation fault.   Anyone know what to do?
[04:45] <bogeyman> is that all ill need?
[04:45] <nocive> millertime_018: have u installed fusion-icon?
[04:45] <mneptok> bogeyman: yes
[04:45] <bogeyman> ty
[04:45] <millertime_018> whats fusion-icon?
[04:45] <nocive> compiz fusion tray icon
[04:45] <millertime_018> nocive: is it in the menu? i think it is
[04:45] <nocive> it also remembers your previous used confs
[04:45] <nocive> thus, selecting emerald as window decorator
[04:46] <computer> ber1, go to tools>options>helper apps
[04:46] <s3a> i have a .exe of all2iso and ur spose to do sumtin to it to make it work in linux (and ya its not solely for windows so im not dealing with a wrong filetype)
[04:46] <nocive> will remember it for following sesssions
[04:46] <s3a> can sum1 help me make it work?
[04:46] <computer> ber1, u have vlc installed?
[04:46] <bogeyman> where can i get vlc at?
[04:46] <millertime_018> what if i disable window decoration in compiz?
[04:46] <ber1> computer yes
[04:46] <nocive> millertime_018: yes, it's in synaptics
[04:46] <mneptok> bogeyman: sudo apt-get install vlc mozilla-plugin-vlc
[04:46] <komputes> bogeyman: Add/Remove
[04:46] <godofwar> anyone know another program like wine that is also free?
[04:47] <s_> how does registering a nick work?
[04:47] <mneptok> s_: /join #freenode
[04:47] <komputes> godofwar: theres always virtualisation
[04:47] <aurynn> I can't say I'm impressed with ubuntu. *shrug*
[04:47] <s3a> uif2iso i meant*
[04:47] <mneptok> s3a: why not just use the native tools?
[04:47] <computer> ber1, go to tools>options>helper apps then change to vlc $URL$ for viodeo player or music player
[04:47] <aaron_> hello
[04:47] <Dev_N00B> I have a PNYS-CURE raid card.  Can I use WUBI to install Ubuntu 8.04 on the RAID 0 array and still  off it?
[04:47] <heart_> whats up room
[04:47] <s3a> mneptok: wat r native tools?
[04:47] <Dev_N00B> PNY S-CURE
[04:47] <mneptok> s3a: what are you trying to do?
[04:48] <bogeyman> damn the restricted is alot of stuff to install lol
[04:48] <heart_> hello
[04:48] <s3a> mneptok: i have .uif cd images and want to make all of them .isos
[04:48] <s_> is there a way to check if a nick is registered? or is it trial and error to see if i find one?
[04:49] <Dev_N00B> *boot off it
[04:49] <mneptok> s_: /join #freenode
[04:49] <ubunubi> s_: you could check bytrying to change to it. if it's registered you won't be able to
[04:49] <mneptok> s3a: proprietary file formats suck. good luck.
[04:49] <aaron_> do you speak spanish?
[04:49] <mneptok> !es > aaron_
[04:49] <titanix88> where does nautilus mount remote samba shares? ( herdy)
[04:49] <s3a> mneptok: all2iso and uif2iso can do it but i cant get either installed
[04:50] <s3a> mneptok: or simply lack the knowledge
[04:50] <svenstaro> ubunubi, do you reckon gentoo would be easier for performing operations like these? ubuntu is all about automation and user friendlyness, but where it fails, so will you. gentoo is about control all the way.
[04:50] <mneptok> s3a: never used either
[04:50] <ftehw> I have a 2ndary internal drive that I was messing with.  I changed the "mount location" and "mount options" (via right-click -> properties) then remounted.  I must have gotten something wrong because now it says it can't mount the drive "mount_point cannot contain the following characters...".  ANy idea how I can go back and fix it?
[04:50] <ubunubi> svenstaro: i dont have experience with gentoo, sorry, i'm the wrong person to ask
[04:50]  * mneptok stares at svenstaro 
[04:50] <s3a> mneptok: k, thx, ill try on a 32 bit comp cuz ive been forcing architecture mayube thats y install fails
[04:50] <komputes> s3a: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+question/9340
[04:50] <Dev_N00B> I have a Raid 0 array on a netcell based pci controller card.  can I install Ubuntu 8.04 on it using WUBI in Windows and still boot off it?
[04:50] <oxeimon> Hi, so I've just built a new computer, and it won't turn on. Can someone direct me to the proper channel to get help for this?
[04:50] <mneptok> svenstaro: his nick has "nubi" in it. recommending Gentoo is just plain mean.
[04:50] <nocive> svenstaro: gentoo has lost itself ...
[04:50] <soul_786> if i just change my nick is that the same as being able to register it if the nick change works?
[04:51] <titanix88> ﻿where does nautilus mount remote samba shares? ( herdy )
[04:51] <mneptok> nocive: it will re-emerge at some point. *laugh*
[04:51] <nocive> lol
[04:51] <ubunubi> soul_786: if you're able to change to to it, you are eligible to register it (or attempt to)
[04:51] <soul_786> unless i reg it?
[04:51] <s3a> komputes: i had alredy seen that and im not looking to burn it but anyway i think i no wat to do now, thx for trying anyway
[04:51] <svenstaro> mneptok, i was not! im just thinking of using gentoo myself because setting up a fakeraid on ubuntu is like trying to eat your own stomach
[04:51] <nocive> i've recently moved from gentoo actually...
[04:52] <mneptok> titanix88: Samba shares get mounted by gvfs
[04:52] <oxeimon> Hi, so I've just built a new computer, and it won't turn on. Can someone direct me to the proper channel to get help for this?
[04:52] <bogeyman> nice vlc works good
[04:52] <bogeyman> im starting to like linux lol
[04:52] <komputes> mneptok: nobody should be recommended to switch to gentoo...d'saw
[04:52] <heart_> hello all
[04:52] <Allothernickstak> i am a linux n00b
[04:52] <mneptok> svenstaro: if you think it will be easier on Gentoo, you need to put the pipe down. ;)
[04:52] <mneptok> d'sau
[04:52] <heart_> i am heart
[04:52] <Allothernickstak> trust me, being a noob with a life is funner than being a real hacker
[04:52] <Dev_N00B> I'll stick to Ubuntu
[04:52] <Itai-Michaelson> whats the name of the package that enable all the funky features 3d effects
[04:53] <nocive> Itai-Michaelson: compiz-fusion
[04:53] <alphabeta> so I'm trying to get my ubuntu install to dualboot with vista, but whenever I try to boot vista from grub the screen just sticks at "Starting up ..."
[04:53] <svenstaro> mneptok, the more technical stuff is a lot easier on gentoo because ubuntu has all those user-friendly stuff in place, for example, you have to shutdown the network manager before you can fully manually configure your network
[04:53] <nocive> flush vista down the toilet
[04:53] <komputes> Dev_N00B: I have some crazy glue remover for that y'know
[04:53] <ubunubi> svenstaro: you might have better luck using the "alternate" install ISO/CD...you'll get more refined access to a command line during the entire install process..if that's what you're wanting
[04:53] <nocive> xD
[04:53] <heart_> vista makes me money
[04:53] <alphabeta> nocive: I'd love to but there is one little program I need it for. only once too :/
[04:53] <titanix88> mneptok: i wanna know where is it connected in the filesystem... so i can copy files using command line.
[04:53] <Itai-Michaelson> nocive, aptitude install compiz-fusion?
[04:53] <svenstaro> mneptok, have you ever done a ubuntu fakeraid installation for ich9r? you will try to tear out your eyes
[04:54] <alphabeta> svenstaro: Gentoo's user friendliness went all down the drain once they "fixed" portage by preventing circular dependencies
[04:54] <nocive> Itai-Michaelson: apt-get install compiz-fusion fusion-icon
[04:54] <computer> ber1, got it?
[04:54] <Allothernickstak> is there a chat room to learn more about linux in general than just ubuntu noob questions?
[04:54] <Dev_N00B> I just need to know if I can use WUBI to install ubuntu on my raid 0 drive array on my netcell pci controller
[04:54] <svenstaro> ubunubi, sadly thats a no-go i already tried :/
[04:54] <ftehw> any idea how I can edit the variable "mount_point" for a hdd?
[04:54] <Itai-Michaelson> nocive, whats fusion-icon for?
[04:54] <svenstaro> alphabeta, so its now a bit like slackware? :P
[04:54] <unop> Allothernickstak, ##linux
[04:54] <ubunubi> Allothernickstak: you can try #linux
[04:54] <nocive> gentoo user friendliness? was there ever one?
[04:54] <Allothernickstak> ok thanks
[04:54] <RunKidRun> is this correct, it is illegal to downlaod an mp3 codec, but it is legal  to download realplayer w/ those codecs on linux?
[04:54] <mneptok> svenstaro: thinking Gentoo is more configurable than Ubuntu is like thinking a falling out of a plane will teach you about gravity.
[04:54] <alphabeta> does anyone know how I could get vista to boot? vistas bootloader was overwritten by grub (obviously), and I'd like to keep grub as the master
[04:54] <Allothernickstak> ##linux
[04:55] <Allothernickstak> #linux
[04:55] <RunKidRun> is that right?
[04:55] <nocive> Itai-Michaelson: tray icon for managing your window decorators and window managers
[04:55] <Allothernickstak> which one
[04:55] <bogeyman> what is a godo mp3 player like winamp?
[04:55] <svenstaro> Dev_N00B, definately not, that is, if ubuntu live sees it correclty so will wubi
[04:55] <yoyoned> alphabeta: sometimes the ubunutu installer gets confused when there are more than one windows partition like if there is a restore partition.  Look at the partition it's trying to boot.  it may need changed
[04:55] <bogeyman> good*
[04:55] <Itai-Michaelson> nocive, thanks
[04:55] <nocive> Itai-Michaelson: easily switch between xfce/gnome and compiz-fusion
[04:55] <alphabeta> nocive: portage used to be one of the easiest package management systems I've ever used :/
[04:55] <komputes> mneptok: one final lesson, right?
[04:55] <nocive> true
[04:55] <ftehw> bogeyman: mpd + gmpc.
[04:55] <nocive> it still is
[04:55] <ubunubi> alphabeta: there are a ton of guides for dual booting vista with ubuntu. www.google.com
[04:55] <mneptok> bogeyman: WinAmp, or iTunes?
[04:55] <svenstaro> mneptok, doesnt falling out of a plane teach you about gravity? just in a violent way, and you will have to come up with a solution quickly
[04:55] <alphabeta> yoyoned: It's the right one :/ hd(0,3)
[04:55] <mneptok> komputes: i'm always on the job :)
[04:55] <Dev_N00B> svenstaro, the netcell needs no drivers at all under any os, apparently
[04:55] <titanix88> alphabeta: i tried once : vista->xp->ubuntu. It worked.
[04:55] <nocive> portage is the only good thing left about gentoo
[04:56] <XGas> bogeyman: Try Banshee or Foobar
[04:56] <bogeyman> ill try amarok
[04:56] <Lunks> My mouse is kinda ghostly on Firefox; one minute it's there, suddenly it's gone
[04:56] <bogeyman> i heard someone say amarok si good
[04:56] <mneptok> bogeyman: Amarok is not like WinAmp at *all*
[04:56] <bogeyman> i just want a player lol
[04:56] <yoyoned> alphabeta: that's the 4th partition, not a normal place for vista to live
[04:56] <svenstaro> Dev_N00B, thats good, then its a hardware controller.. a real one. go ahead and try it, you cant break anything with wubi
[04:56] <bogeyman> to play mp3's
[04:56] <nocive> amarok is just plain ugly xD
[04:56] <mneptok> bogeyman: Amarok is more like iTunes. for something like WinAmp, you want XMMS.
[04:56] <alphabeta> ubunubi: tried them all.. (not that they don't all say the same thing).  Haven't found anyone with my problem.. seen BSOD's, and grub boot errors, but never just "Starting up ..." forever
[04:56] <XGas> No
[04:56] <nocive> bogeyman: try audacious or exaile
[04:56] <Allothernickstak> Is #Linux located in the Ubuntu server?
[04:56] <alphabeta> yoyoned: XP was installed first, is now gone. that may be the problem, but im not completely clueless :p
[04:56] <Allothernickstak> im an IRC noob as well.
[04:56] <XGas> Amarok is nothing like iTunes
[04:57] <Dev_N00B> svenstaro, it does Raid 0, Raid 1, Raid 10, Raid 0+1, and XOR Raid 3
[04:57] <svenstaro> Allothernickstak, this isnt a ubuntu irc server, this is freenode, theres all kinds of linux channels on here
[04:57] <Dev_N00B> 34.99 on newegg.  just search for "pny s-cure"
[04:57] <mib_btjb1m> anyone know how to switch back to ubuntu from edubuntu
[04:57] <Dev_N00B> Has 64 MB RAM, too :)
[04:57] <svenstaro> Dev_N00B, well then, go ahead, if its a REAL hardware controller it will work nicely
[04:57] <yoyoned> alphabeta: where is linux installed, does it boot.  Also try hiding the partitions in fromt of vista if they are ntfs or fat
[04:57] <Allothernickstak> so how do i join one, btw this is probably the nicest chat admins i have met so respect to you gjuys .
[04:58] <nocive> an irc noob.. that's something we don't see everyday... :)
[04:58] <ber1> computer - i changed it from xine $URL$ to vlc $URL$ but frostwire still won't play files locally in its embedded media player. any other suggestions?
[04:58] <bazhang> Allothernickstak, /j ##linux
[04:58] <ftehw> where is the variable "mount_point" stored for the hdds?
[04:58] <Allothernickstak> thanks!
[04:58] <svenstaro> Allothernickstak, type this first: /list will give oyu the channels list, then find your channel and type /j #channel  remember the #
[04:58] <drewzf> Hello all
[04:58] <Allothernickstak> be back soon.
[04:58] <bazhang> np
[04:58] <alphabeta> yoyoned: it was XP + Vista, I removed the XP partition and now its 1:boot[ext2] 2: swap 3: extended { 567... where linux lives } 4: vista
[04:59] <drewzf> I've recently upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10, and found that I can't get my nvidia driver to function, a friend of mine is having a similar issue with a ATI card
[04:59] <bogeyman> ok one more ? whats a good burning prog to use on ubuntu?
[04:59] <svenstaro> !testing|drewzf
[04:59] <XGas> drewzf: This is expected, its Alpha version which is still in testing.
[04:59] <alphabeta> yoyoned: been booting linux since, always meant to get around to adding vista to grub but never bothered as I never had the need. until now :(
[04:59] <nocive> bogeyman: brasero
[04:59] <bazhang> alphabeta, fix grub /msg ubottu grub for links
[04:59] <komputes> bogeyman: Brasero
[04:59] <svenstaro> !ubuntu+1|drewzf
[04:59] <XGas> drewzf: NVIDIA still hasn't release the kernel module for kernel version 2.6.26
[05:00] <drewzf> svenstaro, I understand that, but I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing similar issues, and if there was a way to fix it.
[05:00] <XGas> nor does ATI
[05:00] <millertime_018> how do i add compiz fusion icon to the startup programs?
[05:00] <mib_btjb1m> help?
[05:00] <komputes> bogeyman: comes by default on Ubuntu 8.04 -> Apps > Sound & Video > Brasero
[05:00] <nocive> millertime_018: create a new startup application, enter fusion-icon for command name
[05:00] <computer> dont know then, some1 will help, just be patient
[05:00] <drewzf> Ahh, okay, thanks XGas, when will they be releasing, is that known?
[05:00] <svenstaro> drewzf, sure, just download the nvidia drivers manually and let the installer compile modules for your kernel, its actually pretty easy and most of it is automated
[05:01] <XGas> drewzf: "Two weeks"
[05:01] <binar> hi
[05:01] <drewzf> svenstaro, Oh, I've done this before, what packages should I make sure to install before beginning this process?
[05:01] <mib_btjb1m> need some helping switching back from edubuntu when someone gets a moment
[05:01] <bogeyman> what about burning dvd video files?
[05:01] <soul_786> does changing the email password associated with your registered nickname affect its standing in any way?
[05:01] <svenstaro> drewzf, build-essential should do the trick, also kernel-source and headers
[05:01] <bogeyman> i dont see that option there
[05:01] <drewzf> svenstaro, Thanks!
[05:02] <alphabeta> bazhang: I've searched pretty intensively for grub menu.lst vista entries, as far as I can tell I've done it correctly http://pastebin.com/m25611fef
[05:02] <svenstaro> drewzf, remember you might need to manually point the installer to the correct path, you'll be fine
[05:02] <smartnet2> fgdf
[05:02] <ftehw> I found my answer:  To recover from a poorly-formed mount_point variable - http://infobits.org/taxonomy/term/20
[05:03] <done2> hi!!! anyone know a good place to ask about the ubuntu usb system ( udev hal etc...  and all the things that get your new usb device working ) ?
[05:03]  * svenstaro is recovering his data partition which Windows just destroyed
[05:03] <svenstaro> done2, that would be here
[05:04] <cewe_iMoet> oh no!
[05:04] <cewe_iMoet> oh yes no
[05:04] <done2> svenstaro:  sweet!  is there any structured documentation on how ubuntu has setup hal/udev/etc.. ?
[05:04] <bogeyman> i need a burning program that allows me to burn dvd video files anyone can help?
[05:05] <svenstaro> done2, from which viewpoint? are you a dev and you want API documentation?
[05:05] <svenstaro> bogeyman, you mean you want to set up a video dvd from individual files?
[05:05] <waheela_glitched> is there any particular end-user software someone needs for Linux or that would constitute a killer app?
[05:05] <bogeyman> im talking when u rip dvds they go into .vob files
[05:05] <ftehw> curious:  why are many apps installable via apt-get but not Add/Remove Apps?
[05:05] <bazhang> alphabeta, and you are still getting errors from that? is the vista located at (0,3)?
[05:06] <svenstaro> bogeyman, in that case its easy, tried k3b?
[05:06] <ftehw> examples - zsh, mpd
[05:06] <bogeyman> noep but will go get it now
[05:06] <waheela_glitched> nobody?
[05:06] <svenstaro> ftehw, because add/remove the meant to be the noob-version of synaptic, if you want a gui for packages use synaptic , system -> admin > synaptic
[05:06] <ber1> ﻿i use frostwire to download mp3 files. it downloads them fine, and they work fine in outside players, but i am unable to play the files through frostwires built in player. any ideas?
[05:07] <alphabeta> bazhang: unfortunately that's the original :/ also unfortunate, I'm not getting errors but just the boot hangs at Starting up ... (which afaik is a message from grub, not vista).  Yeah vista is located at (0,3)
[05:07] <XGas> waheela_glitched: Errrr, the kernel?
[05:07] <mib_btjb1m> anyone familiar with switching back to ubuntu from edubuntu?
[05:07] <svenstaro> waheela_glitched, for what purpose?
[05:07] <waheela_glitched> XGas, *raises eyebrow* end-user app?
[05:07] <XGas> :P
[05:07] <done2> svenstaro... executive summary?
[05:07] <svenstaro> waheela_glitched, also theres no real killer app for linux because thats not the linux philosophy
[05:07] <ftehw> svenstaro: aha!  thanks.
[05:08] <bogeyman> ahh nice svenstaro thanks
[05:08] <waheela_glitched> svenstaro, then it'll never leave niche.
[05:08] <waheela_glitched> svenstaro, I need a project. I'm bored. I think a true killer end-user app for Linux would be a fun and educational undertaking if nothing else.
[05:08] <ftehw> ubuntu install was super slick, but these n00b filters can get confusing. o.0
[05:08] <svenstaro> done2 huh? I still dont really know what you want, sorry
[05:08] <bazhang> waheela_glitched, this is better conducted in offtopic
[05:08] <waheela_glitched> bazhang, yeah, hasn't been productive. So I'm here. oh well.
[05:08] <alphabeta> waheela_glitched: help out TASpring. I'm kind of addicted
[05:09] <done2> svenstaro:  I've got an incompatible scanner, but instead of taking it back and getting a new one, I would like to use this opportunity to understand how usb devices are detected, paired with drivers/modules and made to function.
[05:09] <svenstaro> waheela_glitched, well.. actually i like it a lot better because in windows you get all these bloated apps full with stuff theyre not supposed to do, in linux you get many apps that all do their thing well. for example im currently developing a 3d benchmark if you want to join in :P but yah its offtopic, sorry
[05:09] <waheela_glitched> svenstaro, bloatedness is avoided by reusing libraries. killer app has nothing to do with bloatedness.
[05:10] <waheela_glitched> use Mac OS X sometime and begin to know what you're talking about.
[05:10] <knoppix> hello
[05:10] <nocive> waheela_glitched: what is a killer app?
[05:10] <waheela_glitched> the best apps for Mac OS X that really make it shine are all under 50 mb
[05:10] <svenstaro> done2 in that case you might want to start low level, kernel level id say, but sorry, im not a driver dev
[05:10] <nocive> is there a killer app for windows?
[05:10] <waheela_glitched> nocive, quite a few.
[05:10] <nocive> explorer.exe?
[05:10] <waheela_glitched> nocive, something that at least a sizeable minority will want to use the OS just for the sake of using that app which is exclusive to it.
[05:10] <bazhang> is there an offtopic channel hereabouts? oh yeah-->#ubuntu-offtopic
[05:10] <nocive> oh... i know that one. I use windows just to use Adobe CS3
[05:10] <knoppix> i'm looking for some help with uninstalling Fedora 9 and installing linux
[05:10] <waheela_glitched> nocive, Office2k7, Games, AutoCad, amongst other things.
[05:11] <nocive> is Adobe CS3 a killer app?
[05:11] <done2> svenstaro:  cool np thanks!
[05:11] <soul_786> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <knoppix> sorry, I mean windows
[05:11] <alphabeta> office2k7 is a complete mess. worst UI ever
[05:11] <svenstaro> waheela_glitched,  i meant functionality bloating, for example a fridge that also makes coffee, but sucky coffee, and also it doesnt get very cool
[05:11] <bazhang> last call for #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:11] <svenstaro> sorry :<
[05:11] <nocive> lol
[05:12] <knoppix> hello guys, can you please advise?
[05:12] <wweasel> Question guys: How can I get a list of all of the users who can login to a system, using the console (not the GUI User Manager).
[05:12] <Lunks> My mouse is kinda ghostly on Firefox; one minute it's there, suddenly it's gone
[05:12] <chalcedony> :)
[05:13] <bogeyman> anyone tried utorrent threw wine does it work well?
[05:13] <soul_786> if you're installing windows on top and want to get rid of fedora...why not clean install?
[05:13] <chalcedony> knoppix: fedora9 IS linux..
[05:13] <hyperair> does the ati catalyst driver support all ati cards or just some?
[05:13] <svenstaro> Lunks, which graphics card? is compiz on?
[05:13] <knoppix> sorry, I mean Windows
[05:13] <svenstaro> bogeyman, yes works just fine
[05:13] <soul_786> yeah knoppix: why not clean instlal windows?
[05:13] <soul_786> install*
[05:13] <chalcedony> SoUkSoU: windows MUST be installed FIRST.. it hates to be anywhere else
[05:13] <knoppix> when I instert the windows CD, it doesn't boot
[05:13] <Lunks> svenstaro: nvidia, yep it's on
[05:13] <bogeyman> good bc i love utorrent lol
[05:13] <nocive> wweasel: cat /etc/passwd | awk -F: '{ print $1 }' -> that will give u all users on your system
[05:13] <knoppix> something about GRUB
[05:13] <soul_786> go to the boot menu or identify the boot sequencein bios
[05:13] <svenstaro> hyperair, just some, not the very old ones, you have to use the open driver for those
[05:14] <soul_786> go into the bios, set your boot sequence to read cd first possibly?
[05:14] <svenstaro> bogeyman, there are very nice torrent apps for linux
[05:14] <svenstaro> Lunks, try to deactivate it then, compiz i mean
[05:14] <bogeyman> ye but y learn a new one plus i need to load all my torrents back up and they are in utorrent :(
[05:14] <nocive> bogeyman: there are tutorials available on how to get utorrent running with wine
[05:14] <bogeyman> im sure just install and run right?
[05:14] <Lunks> svenstaro: still not working
[05:15] <svenstaro> Lunks, is it for all sites?
[05:15] <Utalcn2me> knoppix, at bootup, it aught to ask you to 'hit key to boot from cd rom' for just a quick moment
[05:15] <Lunks> svenstaro: yep
[05:15] <knoppix> what happens is that when I try to boot from the windows CD, it tells me to "press any key to boot from CD" and I do. but then once it starts checking for hardware I can't seem to get to the pont where I can format the harddrives
[05:15] <svenstaro> bogeyman, in that case have fun using utorrent :) just saying there are native alternatives
[05:15] <wweasel> nocive: Thanks!
[05:15] <soul_786> yes, changing the boot sequence just tells the system look to boot FIRST from the cd drives rather than HD thus coming before the GRUB; you wont have to deal with it then
[05:15] <nocive> bogeyman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161 haven't tried it myself, but give it a shot
[05:15] <svenstaro> Lunks, how clean is your ubuntu install? do you get the same problem on live?
[05:15] <itai-michaelson> i have network windows shares automounted on loggon in hardy. it all works well except itasks me for the keyring passwort at boot-up , this will not go well with my client-is there a way to automate the keyring?
[05:16] <soul_786> have you deleted partitions you with to destroy first?
[05:16] <soul_786> wish*
[05:16] <nocive> wweasel: np :)
[05:16] <Lunks> svenstaro: probably I won't as it just started like this today, and I've been using Hardy for a long time now
[05:16] <knoppix> no i haven't deleted partitions
[05:16] <soul_786> if you delete the partitions first
[05:16] <soul_786> you'll be left with an empty space which can then be formatted
[05:17] <knoppix> from what i haave been reading on forums...it have to format the harddrive
[05:17] <svenstaro> Lunks, i wasnt suggesting to clean your system, just curious how old it was, anyway, i reckon you dont get the issue on live then. Tried a new firefox profile?
[05:17] <knoppix> but how do i format the harddrive fom the Fedora console..I'm a noob in linux?
[05:17] <nocive> wweasel: not all users on that list can login
[05:17] <Lunks> svenstaro: Nop
[05:17] <svenstaro> Lunks,  you might wanna try that to sort out if its a plugin / profile issue
[05:17] <wweasel> nocive: Yeah, that's ok. I figured it out :)
[05:18] <bazhang> knoppix, why not get the gparted livecd for that
[05:18] <wweasel> nocive: Thanks for your help!
[05:18] <nocive> ok :)
[05:18] <soul_786> im just as noob to be completely honest... i jsut made the linux switch few days ago but have been using windows for years now
[05:18] <svenstaro> knoppix, you can use parted, its quite cool from the command line
[05:18] <knoppix> baxhang I have the CD, but dont know how to use it
[05:18] <itai-michaelson> knoppix, can you install gparted in fedora? should be "yum install gparted"
[05:18] <Lunks> svenstaro: I will, but it seems like it shouldn't be as I haven't added any plugins today, so I thought it could be something more specific
[05:18] <bazhang> knoppix, boot from it (set in bios to look for cd first)
[05:18] <Utalcn2me> knoppix, you should be able to go into recovery on the wincd if you just want to format the win partition
[05:19] <knoppix> there is no windows partitions...i set the entire HD for Linux
[05:19] <svenstaro> Lunks, might be that your profile just corrupted somehow, just try to find out if its profile or firefoy related
[05:19] <knoppix> when I boot from Parted a see a long list of things,..what do I select?
[05:19] <Utalcn2me> knoppix, sorry, i dont understand what your doing
[05:20] <knoppix> I am Fedora installed on My comp, and the entire HD is fully for Fedora.. there is not windows partition
[05:20] <bazhang> knoppix, you want to dual boot fedora 9 and ubuntu?
[05:21] <knoppix> no no...i want to install widnows
[05:21] <knoppix> get rid of Fedora and install windows
[05:21] <bazhang> knoppix, then install ubuntu after that?
[05:21] <mkquist> knoppix - easier to install windows first
[05:21] <Guest82762> is it possible to host my own website on hardy? free of charge
[05:21] <nocive> i think he just wants to remove all the linux partitions windows can't recognize..
[05:22] <__yy> Guest82762: it's possible to do that with any os
[05:22] <knoppix> yea..have a dual boot of widnows and ubuntu
[05:22] <bazhang> wonders how this relate to ubuntu if that is so
[05:22] <svenstaro> Guest82762, sure, no problem, see the wiki for LAMP
[05:22] <coulix> hello i m using gnome ppp for a modem , im connected with everything except firefox with does not seem to detect the connection
[05:22] <svenstaro> !lamp|Guest82762
[05:22] <bazhang> knoppix, you can use the gparted livecd for that
[05:22] <Utalcn2me> knoppix, i think it would be the best if you removed all partitions and make separate partitiions, maybe a separate home partition for a home partition you could share between the two
[05:22] <Guest82762> i don't have to have the server edition installed to start running lamp?
[05:22] <keta> how do i see what my hard drives are (sda1, sdb2, etc)
[05:23] <bazhang> Guest82762, no
[05:23] <knoppix> how do I get rid of the partitions?
[05:23] <myr> hey does anyone know if 8.04.1 has been released and where it is available for download?
[05:23] <nocive> *sigh*
[05:23] <tj83> keta sudo fdisk -l
[05:23] <nocive> myr, www.ubuntu.org
[05:23] <svenstaro> myr, 8.04.1 is mainly for wubi
[05:24] <bazhang> knoppix, you need to pay attention :)
[05:24] <knoppix> i'm trying
[05:24] <svenstaro> knoppix, are you using parted, fdisk, or gparted?
[05:24] <myr> svenstaro, i thought 8.04.1 was a cumulative bug fix for 8.04
[05:24] <knoppix> I have gparted Live CD
[05:24] <keta> tj83: thanks
[05:24] <bazhang> knoppix, then boot into it
[05:24] <svenstaro> myr, yeah of course some packages got updated
[05:24] <knoppix> when I boot into it there is a long list of things..what do I select?
[05:25] <svenstaro> knoppix, you mean the language settings?
[05:25] <svenstaro> knoppix, ah wait, you mean grub, just press return
[05:25] <bazhang> knoppix, could you be a bit more precise? ie long list of things
[05:25] <svenstaro> bazhang, he means grub i reckon
[05:25] <bazhang> aha grub
[05:25] <knoppix> yes..it says things like Autoconfiguration
[05:25] <knoppix> in paranthesis
[05:25] <svenstaro> knoppix, alright, return will do the trick
[05:26] <knoppix> ok
[05:26] <knoppix> basically I want to get to command line?
[05:26] <dzhosh> does anyone know of a good guide for setting up rtgui for someone who has no familiarity with apache?
[05:26] <svenstaro> knoppix, nope, you will get GUI for everything
[05:26] <keta> when adding a device to fstab, whats the 'proc' column?
[05:27] <knoppix> ok and how do i Proceede?
[05:27] <svenstaro> dzhosh, you will be doing yourself a huge favor by getting used to apache, the gui tools arent really all that helpful
[05:27] <svenstaro> knoppix, you see the gui in front of you now? or the command line?
[05:27] <svenstaro> keta, dont screw with that, that ones for the proc files system
[05:27] <knoppix> gui
[05:28] <jb0t> hello.  i have an install of edgy, and im getting 404's when i try to perform apt-get update.  ive tried numerous variations of sources with no success.
[05:28] <svenstaro> knoppix, goodie, basically everything should be pretty obvious now, you can just select which partitions you want to delete now and then resize the remaining partitions to fit in
[05:28] <dzhosh> svenstaro: all i would need is for it to work well with rtgui, i wont actually need it for anything else... do you still think that is the case?
[05:28] <jb0t> edgy is still supported afaik.  ideas?
[05:29] <knoppix> i'll try it..i'll be back with the results..i'm using koppix to boot cuz i messed things up
[05:29] <svenstaro> dzhosh, ah now i get what you want, you simply want to run a web application on apache?
[05:29] <dzhosh> svenstaro: i am trying to meet the requirements listed here: http://code.google.com/p/rtgui/
[05:29] <svenstaro> jb0t is it?
[05:29] <jb0t> svenstaro: yes, according to wikipedia
[05:30] <Jester45> jb0t: i think it is 7.10 + 18 months
[05:30] <svenstaro> dzhosh, for a torrent interface i can highly recommend torrentflux-br4t
[05:30] <Jester45> jb0t: please pastebin your sources.list
[05:30] <Jester45> !pastebin > jb0t
[05:30] <soul_786> What good web authoring tools are there for website creation and the such? Ive got eclipse for java which works well for me but in terms of actually making some webpages adn the such?
[05:30] <bogeyman> does ubuntu have something auto that changes back the manual dns servers that i need to set
[05:30] <bazhang> jb0t, edgy is eol
[05:31] <bogeyman> bc like every 10 mins i get them reset
[05:31] <jb0t> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Linux#Release_History
[05:31] <dzhosh> svenstaro: are you sure you spelled that right? there are only three google hits and no such package in the repository
[05:31] <Jester45> dzhosh: i recomment rtorrent if you want want a webui
[05:31] <ubunubi> if i pop out my current video card and install a different one, is ubuntu going to freak out and ruin my delicate crafted compizfusion/wow+wine setup?
[05:31] <welkin> can any one tell me if there is any possibilities for reading a mail or chating in terminal???
[05:31] <dzhosh> Jester45: rtgui, which is what i want to set up, is the main webui for rtorrent, but requires a good amount of configuration
[05:31] <svenstaro> dzhosh, http://tf-b4rt.berlios.de/
[05:32] <jb0t> http://pastebin.com/m6dee8124
[05:32] <bazhang> jb0t, it ended last april
[05:32] <soul_786> anyone? good web production software?
[05:32] <itai-michaelson> whats the chinese language ubuntu irc channel?
[05:32] <jb0t> oh cripes. youre right
[05:32] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases jb0t
[05:32] <bogeyman> anyone know of ubuntu resetting to default dns servers like every 10 mins or so bc it keeps doing that and i need it set on a certain dns
[05:32] <jb0t> holy hell
[05:32] <Jester45> jb0t: edgy or feisty?
[05:32] <bazhang> !cn | itai-michaelson
[05:32] <jb0t> edgy.
[05:32] <thunar_> I'm running 8.04. how do I upgrade to the new 8.04.1? I tried dist-upgrade to no avail
[05:33] <itai-michaelson> bazhang, thanks
[05:33] <Jester45> jb0t: yep you need to upgrade
[05:33] <bazhang> np
[05:33] <jb0t> ive tried upgrading before.. it did not go well
[05:33] <soul_786> those are taiwan and hong kong servers what did you expect :P
[05:33] <Jester45> thunar_:  that will work if you have the correct repos
[05:33] <jb0t> by the time i made it to hardy, i had no consoles
[05:33] <svenstaro> thunar_, you dont need to, youre already upgraded
[05:33] <thunar_> ok, thanks
[05:33] <myr> bogeyman, you can edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[05:33] <dzhosh> svenstaro: hmm, this only supports the original bittorrent client, bittornado, transmissoin, and azureus
[05:33] <svenstaro> bogeyman, if you need custom config kill networkmanager
[05:33] <bogeyman> ok what should i edit lol
[05:33] <myr> bogeyman, add a line like prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220;
[05:33] <soul_786> website creation software?
[05:33] <Jester45> jb0t: then dont move up to hardy just go up 1 or 2 releases
[05:33] <jb0t> i ended up doing a fresh install.  that machine was easy.. this one however is full of crap, and will be nightmare
[05:34] <svenstaro> dzhosh, do you really really need rtorrent?
[05:34] <bazhang> soul_786, those are on freenode
[05:34] <nocive> soul_786: don't really know a good one for linux
[05:34] <dzhosh> svenstaro: well, i'll be seeding over 200 torrents, i figured it would be the most stable
[05:34] <bazhang> !html
[05:34] <Jester45> dzhosh: yes that is the downfall of TF its slow because of the clients but this is going into offtopic chatter
[05:35] <nocive> soul_786: haven't seen a real alternative to dreamweaver
[05:35] <nocive> soul_786: u can try bluefish but it sucks in my opinion
[05:35] <Dezine> Is there anyway to get flash to stop crashing Firefox?
[05:35] <storm-zen> I can't get a specific DVD to play in gutsy.  I was thinking about looking for new firmware for the DVD player.  How do I see what DVD hardware I have?
[05:35] <svenstaro> dzhosh, torrentflux is quite good at that, so your call
[05:35] <Jester45> Dezine: use a diffrent flash..
[05:35] <bazhang> Dezine, and still use it? or block it
[05:35] <Jester45> svenstaro: that going into offtopic
[05:35] <bazhang> storm-zen, which dvd
[05:36] <repsol_> Do I need to set up a nfs client in ubuntu?
[05:36] <storm-zen> A touchstone movie, bazhang.
[05:36] <bazhang> storm-zen, nt2?
[05:36] <svenstaro> repsol_, usually you can just mount the nfs shares like you would any other
[05:36] <repsol_> Is there  a seperate package I need?
[05:36] <repsol_> Hmm
[05:36] <storm-zen> bazhang: nt2?  what?
[05:36] <m1r> hello
[05:37] <raziel420> I have a very strange issue, when using any video program, flash applet, java applet, or wine program I loose all sound and get really laggy after exactly 12 minutes, if i qyuit and restart it's fine, for 12 more minutes... any ideas on where to find a fix?
[05:37] <repsol_> I get wrong fs or something like that
[05:37] <bazhang> never mind
[05:37] <soul_786> how do i remove pidgin? i dont think ill ever need it... is it just in add/remove under the applications tab?
[05:37] <myr> soul_786, yep
[05:37] <svenstaro> soul_786, yes it is, but you should think about it, pidgin owns :)
[05:38] <bogeyman> hmm
[05:38] <ubunubi> what's the difference in uninstall/removing from synaptis and add/remove??
[05:38] <soul_786> lol im using xchat for irc...couldnt get it working otherwise for the life of me on pidgin
[05:38] <soul_786> :P
[05:38] <ubunubi> synaptic*
[05:38] <nocive> none :D
[05:38] <Bora> is there any voice chatting for ubuntu? i tried many but none works on yahoo
[05:38] <svenstaro> ubunubi, nothing, just a different interface
[05:38] <svenstaro> Bora, teamspeak, ventrilo work just fine with wine, apart from that skype runs natively
[05:38] <Fa> bora voiceandvideochat.com works
[05:39] <raziel420> add/remove programs has some issues with installing some things because it's not quite as good at dependancy resolving, but otherwise, they are different only in looks
[05:39] <storm-zen> soul_786: Pidgin can be used for IRC, Yahoo, MSN, Jabber, Google... etc... etc...
[05:39] <storm-zen> ( and all at the same time. )
[05:39] <welkin> can any one tell me if there is any possibilities for reading a mail or chating in terminal???
[05:39] <Bora> svenstaro: not much into wine.... skype is good but there is no list of rooms to join
[05:40] <soul_786> yeah I know about all the pidgin features but the laptop this is running on is quite old a t23 and i already have a desktop pc so its not much of a worry to me
[05:40] <storm-zen> Ok.  This is not that hard of a question.  What is the command to list the model of my DVD player?
[05:40] <myr> welkin, chatting on irc?
[05:40] <nocive> welkin: yes, for both
[05:40] <storm-zen> soul_786: try sudo apt-get remove pidgin
[05:40] <soul_786> this laptop is just more experimentation and easing into linux environments
[05:40] <welkin> nocive>>> how to do that???
[05:40] <svenstaro> Bora, actually there is, you got channels, but if youre looking for a server-client solution just use TS2/Ventrilo, its really easy, just install wine and double click the setup :D
[05:41] <nocive> welkin: irc on command line, just install irssi
[05:41] <welkin> myr>> no its like doing everything in terminal
[05:41] <bazhang> lshw storm-zen
[05:41] <m1r> svenstaro: TS2 have its package on ubuntu
[05:41] <nocive> welkin: as for email on the command line, there are numerous command line email clients
[05:41] <storm-zen> thanks, bazhang.  That was too obvious...
[05:41] <svenstaro> mlr, it does? o_O okay
[05:41] <soul_786> Okay well i've got to be off, nice talking and thanks for the help!
[05:41] <tannji> Is there anyone that could walk me though trouble-shooting my sound setup?  (HDA, ALC888)
[05:41] <welkin> nocive>>>so do i need to do apt-get install irssi??
[05:42] <bazhang> tannji, hda intel?
[05:42] <Utalcn2me> welkin, mutt is a fine terminal emailer
[05:42] <nocive> welkin: yes, if you want an irc command line client
[05:42] <Bora> svenstaro: i do have skype installed without the wine... i wish there would be a solution to list skype rooms without the need of wine
[05:42] <tannji> Baz: Realtek ALC888
[05:42] <welkin> nocive>>>k... ill try and tel u...
[05:42] <svenstaro> Bora, aaah wait you got that wrong, you dont need wine to see the skype cahnnels
[05:43] <bazhang> tannji, what have you tried so far?
[05:43] <welkin> utalcn2me>>> can i chat in that??
[05:43] <svenstaro> Bora, next, you need wine for ventrilo but not for teamspeak
[05:43] <esac> am i missing something from nautilus ? I cant browse to fonts:/// and when i try to connect to a bluetooth device it says it cannot open obex://[mac address]
[05:43] <tannji> Baz: I have tried to muddle through installing sound driver and ALSA
[05:43] <Utalcn2me> welkin, chat in your email client??? no
[05:44] <bazhang> tannji, no sound at all?
[05:44] <tannji> None, other than system beep
[05:44] <nocive> welkin: if you also want an email command line client, try pine > apt-get install alpine
[05:44] <bazhang> tannji, pulse not working?
[05:44] <Bora> svenstaro: well the thing is, wine is mostly used to make win progs work on linux and i just wish that there will be all possible progs without the need of windows and wine
[05:44] <raj_> Hi All , I've one ISO file, that i want to convert in hex file using C language , can anyone plz help me
[05:45] <svenstaro> Bora, err.. well there are alternatives which you can use depending on what you need
[05:45] <welkin> nocive>>>k... ill try
[05:45] <bazhang> raj_, whatever for?
[05:45] <nocive> Bora.. I wish for world peace
[05:45] <m1r> nocive: only that ?
[05:45] <tannji> Baz, dont know, no idea how to use pulse
[05:45] <bazhang> tannji, let me get you a link
[05:45] <tannji> Baz, thanks
[05:45] <Bora> svenstaro: i wonder why skype for ubuntu don't list rooms is there a cause of that?
[05:45] <bazhang> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup tannji
[05:45] <raj_> can help me Baz ?
[05:46] <welkin> utalcn2me>>>nocive>>>guys is there any possibilities to do all the works in terminal????
[05:46] <bazhang> raj_, why you want to do that?
[05:46] <svenstaro> Bora, it doesnt? is it an old version?
[05:46] <raj_> i need man
[05:46] <nocive> welkin: yes, u can do pretty much everything in terminal
[05:46] <raziel420> so can anyone help me on my ery odd and very annoying issue?
[05:46] <bazhang> raj_, there may be another way to accomplish whatever it is you are trying-->could you clarify?
[05:47] <Bora> svenstaro: by your knowledge do you thing someone is working on making a new version... if it does i will wait no problem, otherwise i have to search around to find something that list rooms and allow voice chat
[05:47] <bazhang> no 3D games in terminal :)
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[05:47] <FloodBot1> ng0L: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[05:47] <Utalcn2me> welkin, you can even use an internet browser in terminal, although i dont know why you would
[05:47] <welkin> utalcn2me>>>i installed it can u tell me how to do it.....
[05:48] <welkin> utalcn2me>>>i installed it can u tell me how to work on mutt
[05:48] <nocive> bazhang: lol, there's an ASCII version of quake, if I'm not mistaken
[05:48] <raj_> See my Academic project is i want read that ISO file and convert that in to Hex fiel
[05:48] <raj_> fiel
[05:48] <svenstaro> Bora, i still dont know what exactly you want, do you want a p2p voice solution or a server-client based one like teamspeak?
[05:48] <welkin> utalcn2me>>>nocive>> i like terminal than gui..... i love working on it...
[05:48] <ng0L> thanks floodBot
[05:48] <dolags32128> how do i configure conky?
[05:48] <Utalcn2me> welkin, it's been a while, try RTFM or google
[05:48] <welkin> utalcn2me>>>and even tell me how to work on a browser in termianl
[05:48] <ubunubi> welkin: do you prefer walking long distances instead of driving?
[05:48] <ng0L> I was doubt why my browser couldnt load the page
[05:49] <ng0L> it is always connection interrupt while it loading
[05:49] <Bora> svenstaro: i just want to have a button on top of my skype program that i can see list of public rooms and join by clicking on them
[05:49] <nocive> welkin: install links or lynx
[05:49] <Utalcn2me> welkin, install w3m
[05:49] <welkin> ubunbi>>> if it is a pleasent scenery.....
[05:49] <_2> i have heard that on one has ever made a pci modem   only isa modems   is that correct ?
[05:49] <svenstaro> Bora, let me check
[05:49] <Bora> svenstaro: skype for window do include that
[05:49] <nocive> w3m? that 1 i'm not familiar with
[05:49] <nocive> :)
[05:49] <welkin> utalcn2me>>>nocive>> ill try those guys....
[05:50] <ng0L> Bora, are you cambodian?
[05:50] <svenstaro> Bora, you mean skype-live?
[05:51] <_2> ubunbi elinks is nice for console browser too
[05:51] <Bora> svenstaro: skype-live? i don't know what is that? never used it
[05:51] <ng0L> hi
[05:51] <svenstaro> Bora, its the only windows skype function i can see that allows channel-like behaivor
[05:52] <sx66|eee> I need
[05:52] <Jester45> ubunubi: so your saying the gui is driving and cli is walking? well in that case cli is healthier but.. it is often faster to
[05:52] <Sylphid> can someone tell me how i can initiate X11 forwarding in the reverse direction ... ie starting the X client localy and send it to the remote Xserver
[05:52] <ubunubi> Jester45: i said long distances :P in that case walker is never fast..unless you are a world record breaking speed walker
[05:53] <ng0L> svenstaro: Do you know my browser is always interrupted by connection while it loading?
[05:53] <Bora> svenstaro: is't there a site where i can kinda of copy paste public rooms to join by skype
[05:53] <Bora> ng0L: no i'm Iraqi
[05:53] <tannji> Baz:  I do not seem to have an Asound directory to configure....
[05:54] <ng0L> Bora, I think you should check on skype website.
[05:54] <svenstaro> Bora, actually id recommend just using teamspeak and then you'd find a public team speak server
[05:54] <Bora> ng0L: i have but there are none
[05:54] <caluchins> hi there!
[05:54] <myr> fyi: 8.04.1 is what is automatically downloaded now from ubuntu.com
[05:54] <Utalcn2me> Sylphid, i would like to learn howto do that too.  i think you have to open a display value different from your servers,  like display 0:1
[05:55] <Bora> svenstaro: i hope teamspeak does not require wine.. right?
[05:55] <svenstaro> Bora, it doesnt, its in your repo
[05:55] <heart_> hello
[05:55] <Jester45> ubunubi: cli web browsing does suck for the most part but a lot of other things are easier in cli than gui once you learn it. yes new users like the gui and it is good for things but cli also has its place and shouldnt be removed
[05:55] <Jester45> !welcome | heart_
[05:55] <Bora> svenstaro: ok good... thanks for that info...
[05:55] <caluchins> does anybody knows if exist a distro like ubutu but designed for virtualization?
[05:55] <Jester45> welcome back AMLNXUSR
[05:56] <storm-zen> caluchins: In what respect?
[05:56] <svenstaro> Bora, sudo apt-get install teamspeak-client should do the trick
[05:56] <Jester45> caluchins whats wrong with ubuntu and what kind of virtualization
[05:56] <Sylphid> Utalcn2me: I know you can start an Xclient on the remote server via ssh and send it to the local Xserver using the -Y option but i dont know how to initiate it from the remote end
[05:57] <xtknight> caluchins, ubuntu has a xen kernel
[05:57] <WillShears> As in  a server hosting several virtual servers?
[05:57] <bazhang> caluchins, just get an appliance from vmware site
[05:57] <Bora> svenstaro: is teamspeak also available for windows users? or just for ubuntu... and can it be used to login to yahoo or it's stand alone chat
[05:57] <Jester45> caluchins: if your talking about a distro to use inside of the virtual machine than you should have a look at !jeos
[05:57] <xtknight> Bora, teamspeak can be used for windows
[05:57] <Jester45> !jeos
[05:58] <Jester45> Bora: windows can use it but its stand alone chat
[05:58] <Bora> xtknight: with no problem on ubuntu uses voice chat in public rooms right?
[05:58] <svenstaro> Bora, i dont know where the yahoo fits in there but it works well on windows
[05:58] <caluchins> well , the idea is the easy administration using ubuntu as server
[05:58] <xtknight> Bora, i am not sure if ubuntu can work with teamspeak flawlessly.  i would assume so.  skype works wel for me.
[05:58] <orifice> how can I view users in a channel on xchat ?
[05:58] <caluchins> is well tested xen in ubuntu?
[05:58] <orifice> as a sidebar, like IRC ?
[05:58] <Utalcn2me> Sylphid, yea, i would like to be able to use a thin client to log into and run programs on my main server through xorg, that would be cool
[05:58] <ubunubi> xtknight: how do i check what driver(s) my hardware is using?
[05:58] <Jester45> svenstaro: i think its wondering if TS is like pidgin... multiprotcal
[05:59] <xtknight> ubunubi, lshw can tell you under configuration= for a hardware entry
[05:59] <Sylphid> can someone tell me how i can initiate X11 forwarding in the reverse direction ... ie starting the X client locally and send it to the remote Xserver
[05:59] <xtknight> ubunubi, try sudo lshw | less
[05:59] <pan034234> what is mod 4 button on keyboard?
[05:59] <Bora> xtknight: skype works fine for me too, but only problem in listing public rooms...
[05:59] <svenstaro> Jester45, ahh yeah, like a messenger :S
[05:59] <repsol_> /home/repsol 192.168.1/255.255.255.0(rw)
[05:59] <xtknight> Bora, teamspeak should work on ubuntu, i think, or ventrilo...whichever one support slinux
[05:59] <repsol_> does that look right for /etc/exports
[06:00] <svenstaro> Bora, whats the skype windows feature called that you would like to use? i mean the exact term
[06:00] <Jester45> Sylphid: i dont think you can do that without loging into the remote machine and from there loging back into the local machine
[06:00] <xtknight> Sylphid, is "reverse forwarding" what you want?  i think ssh has that
[06:00] <xtknight> ssh -X somethin somethin
[06:00] <xaelius> hi hi....
[06:00] <Jester45> Sylphid: i stand corrected then
[06:01] <Jester45> hello xaelius
[06:01] <Bora> svenstaro: i have never used it on windows... because yahoo always took over.. but my relatives told me that it actually lists public rooms to join and voice chat
[06:01] <xaelius> how are ya?
[06:01] <svenstaro> Sylphid, well.. in both cases you have two x11 servers so its not reverse actually, its just that youre sending your signals, should work well with x11 forwarding and ssh tunnelling
[06:01] <nocive> that's normal forwarding...
[06:01] <AMLNXUSR> anyone-know-how-i-can-get-my-spacebar-to-work-again-it-stopped-for-no-reason?
[06:01] <nicholashubbard> hey guys, I am trying to remotely install ubuntu on a remote server.  For remotely installing centos I know I can do this: kernel /vmlinuz.cent.pxe vnc vncpassword=AgOodPasswrdHere headless ip=192.168.1.100 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=192.168.1.1 \
[06:01] <nicholashubbard> dns=192.168.1.1 hostname=station1.example.com ksdevice=eth0 method=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/os/i386/ \
[06:01] <nicholashubbard> is there anything equivalent for Ubuntu. I really need to try to get this working without getting my datacenter involved.
[06:02] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, well it's weird.. someone had that problem yesterday
[06:02] <bogeyman> does anyone here use newsgroups if so what program can i use?
[06:02] <svenstaro> Bora, okay then i get it, but waht exactly is it that you want to accomplish? just talk to random people on the net?
[06:02] <xtknight> bogeyman, thunderbird i believe
[06:02] <svenstaro> bogeyman, i use thunderbird myself for that
[06:02] <bogeyman> can it load nzb files?
[06:02] <xaelius> when someones got a min...i have a hopefully quick question
[06:02] <Jester45> xaelius: good welcome to #ubuntu
[06:02] <AMLNXUSR> u-think-a-restart-might-fix-it?
[06:02] <svenstaro> nicholashubbard, why do you want an alternative to ubuntu?
[06:02] <xtknight> !install | nicholashubbard
[06:02] <Sylphid> svenstaro: problem is that i cant access the remote server via ssh as it is behind NAT
[06:02] <Bora> svenstaro: yes.. like here, but using voice also
[06:02] <xtknight> !netboot | nicholashubbard
[06:02] <Jester45> AMLNXUSR: maybe but that looks weird
[06:03] <svenstaro> !ask|xaelius
[06:03] <AMLNXUSR> ALso-what-app-would-u-recommend-for-burning-isos?
[06:03] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, brasero
[06:03] <ubunubi> AMLNXUSR: a logout possibly ...earlier my shift/capslock all stopped for no reason, logout fixed it fine
[06:03] <xaelius> arent there some config/control applets for apache?
[06:03] <svenstaro> Sylphid, you mean, NO access at all? not a single port?
[06:03] <nicholashubbard> svenstaro: not trying to move to something else, I want to move to ubuntu
[06:03] <svenstaro> Bora, to friends or just random people?
[06:03] <xtknight> Sylphid, use hamachi VPN
[06:03] <AMLNXUSR> kk-thnx-guys
[06:03] <xtknight> Sylphid, (practically)zero configuration vpn
[06:03] <repsol_> my server is denying my request for nfs any thoughts?
[06:04] <svenstaro> repsol_, did you export the folders in /etc/exports?
[06:04] <repsol_> yes
[06:04] <Bora> svenstaro: random ppl, friends, and individual... now it includes individual
[06:04] <Sylphid> svenstaro: nope .... trying to help a friend out remotely but since hes behind NAT i cant get to him...was hoping he could forward a  terminal to me
[06:04] <xtknight> repsol_, maybe try     sudo /etc/init.d/nfsd reload && sudo /etc/init.d/nfsd restart
[06:04] <Sylphid> svenstaro: but im not sure how to initiate it
[06:04] <nicholashubbard> i have already looked over the netboot stuff that is how I found i could do the initrd and linux kernel from grub likeI can for other OS's. But I'm trying to see what paramaters I can pass to it
[06:04] <repsol_> xtknight, on the server
[06:05] <xtknight> repsol_, yes
[06:05] <pan034234> wat is ctrl+alt+ f8-f12's purpose?
[06:05] <Jester45> xaelius: there are gui configuration tools for apache but they arent that great and you would be better off learning how to manually configure apache. just incase the tools would mess something up you would know how to fix it your self. its not that hard once you know what to do with it. most of the defualts are ok for average servers
[06:05] <svenstaro> Sylphid, vnc is a lot easier to configure for that purpose
[06:05] <afallenhope> what's the command line to view pictures?
[06:05] <Bora> svenstaro: you can also join multiple ppl in a conference.
[06:05] <Jester45> pan034234: nothing unless you have mutlipule X servers for extra terminal there
[06:05] <Sylphid> svenstaro: tried that ... unfortunatly bandwith is an issue
[06:05] <pan034234> oh ok
[06:05] <xaelius> i have configured them manually under windows versions, much different for lin?
[06:06] <Bora> svenstaro: but you must know thier name, to have them voice chat
[06:06] <svenstaro> Bora, in that case i think teamspeak is the best choice, there are many teamspeak servers where many people talk about different things, skype only has live casts which is basically like a radio
[06:06] <Jester45> x servers or*
[06:06] <svenstaro> Sylphid, tightvnc should work very well
[06:06] <repsol_> xtknight, it is a permission issue
[06:06] <svenstaro> afallenhope, "eog picture.png"
[06:06] <xtknight> Sylphid, did you see my message about hamachi
[06:06] <repsol_>  mount request from unknown host 192.168.1.198 for /home/repsol (/home/repsol)
[06:06] <Bora> svenstaro: i will for sure give a try on teamspeak...
[06:07] <Sylphid> xtknight: oop... sry missed that
[06:07] <svenstaro> repsol_, id suggest googling on how to use nfs in that case, you didnt correclty set the allowed clients to mount it in the exports file
[06:07] <svenstaro> repsol_, remember you need to re-export after youre done
[06:07] <repsol_> I have that is how I ended up here
[06:07] <xtknight> Sylphid, well with hamachi VPN cross platform, free, you can create a tunnel between you and someone else.  basically you guys just join the same group and then you each have your own ips, 5.x.x.x that you connect with.  bypasses NAT
[06:08] <Jester45> bora there are many free public servers but you can run your own if you have a good connection. each client uses something like 8kb/s maybe less if you want total control
[06:08] <svenstaro> ill be off, farewell lads
[06:08] <xtknight> Sylphid, and there's no lag, that i know of
[06:08] <ng0L> how can i uninstall firefox?
[06:08] <afallenhope> svenstaro thanks
[06:09] <xtknight> ng0L, sudo apt-get remove firefox
[06:09] <Bora> svensJester45: iraq and good connection? no way its a dream.... in iraq we use satellite internet... and it's not fast at all
[06:09] <repsol_> can someone give me their working line that shares their home directory in /etc/exports?
[06:09] <ng0L> xtknight: i did but firefox still can use
[06:09] <repsol_> /etc/export
[06:09] <caluchins> thanks a lot guys
[06:10] <myr> yay opera 9.5 final is released!
[06:10] <xtknight> ng0L, try removing firefox-3.0
[06:10] <Jester45> i know this is offtopic but i just want to share with the world that tomarro i get my quad xeon server :) im so happy i dont think i will sleep for a week
[06:11] <ng0L> Cheer it gone
[06:11] <Jester45> ng0L: you can run dpkg -l
[06:11] <Jester45> ng0L: dpkg -l |grep firefox
[06:11] <ng0L> Jester45: what is it for?
[06:11] <Jester45> to get all installed firefox packages listed
[06:12] <shoeunited> Hi there.  Which way to the 64bit version of Hardy for help?
[06:12] <tannji> Baz: you still available?
[06:12] <ng0L> how can install the older version of firefox instead of 3.0
[06:12] <xtknight> ng0L, install firefox-2
[06:13] <Jester45> shoeunited: 64bit help is here
[06:13] <ng0L> xtknight thanks :D
[06:13] <shoeunited> Oh, great.
[06:13] <xtknight> shoeunited, what's up?
[06:14] <shoeunited> Simply stated:  I'm having trouble turning on my bluetooth.  How do I see if it's being detected?
[06:14] <Sylphid> dan, test
[06:14] <openros> Consider in windows if i copy a video file from dvd to sys, if the file is corrupted inbetween the total files gets deleted. But in ubuntu the percentage of the file that was copied plays...
[06:14] <xtknight> shoeunited, what bluetooth device are you using?
[06:15] <openros> how is it... what tech is used in file copy in ubuntu
[06:15] <AMLNXUSR_> anyone-know-why-ubuntu8.04-is-half-the-size-of-7.10..?---does-it-come-with-less-or-something?
[06:15] <shoeunited> My laptop to my phone (data transfer)
[06:15] <Utalcn2me> shoeunited, try dmesg | grep bluetooth
[06:15] <shoeunited> Ok Utalcn2me
[06:15] <xtknight> AMLNXUSR, well it shouldn't be
[06:15] <AMLNXUSR_> its-only-like-600mg
[06:15] <xtknight> openros, well ubuntu's media player , mplayer or vlc, has better support for partial files than windows media player
[06:15] <shoeunited> Nada :/
[06:16] <AMLNXUSR_> scratch-that-600
[06:16] <xtknight> maybe your 7.10 is a dvd
[06:16] <AMLNXUSR_> 400*(
[06:16] <xtknight> oh sounds incomplete to me
[06:16] <shoeunited> dmesg isn't spitting back any bluetooth IDs to me.
[06:16] <AMLNXUSR_> ill-redownload-it
[06:16] <shoeunited> Is it a driver issue between 32bit and 64 bit?
[06:17] <xtknight> shoeunited, is the bluetooth service enabled?
[06:17] <xtknight> shoeunited, probably not.  the linux kernel is very unified, much more so than windows
[06:17] <xtknight> 32/64bit suport is almost guaranteed to be equal
[06:17] <myr> AMLNXUSR, 8.04.1 desktop i386 cd is 694.5mb
[06:17] <openros> but xtknight,  can you tell me some link to learn the implementation details of the file copy methodology in ubuntu
[06:17] <xtknight> openros, ubuntu copies a file by replicating the byte, just like windows
[06:17] <Jester45> openros: you can get the same playback by using mplayer or vlc on windows... but linux filesystems are much better
[06:17] <shoeunited> Alright.  I was seeing some flashplayer issues, so I didn't know if it was affecting hardware as well.
[06:17] <hack> someone know webintelli??
[06:17] <hack> someone know webintelli??
[06:17] <hack> someone know webintelli??
[06:17] <FloodBot1> hack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:17] <aeonbit> I have a suggestion for the future of Banshee, which I consider to be an outstanding product.
[06:17] <AMLNXUSR> oh-ok
[06:18] <openros> but in window, no files will be copied partially na
[06:18] <AMLNXUSR> still-smaller-than-7.10
[06:18] <xtknight> shoeunited, check system->administration->services for bluetooth
[06:18] <openros> only two options in windows 100% or 0%
[06:18] <AMLNXUSR> lol
[06:18] <shoeunited> K
[06:18] <xtknight> openros, hmm i didn't tihnk that was the case
[06:19] <xtknight> openros, well it is still the same.  i guess windows just decides to delete the partial part it has copied.  in that way, it's atomic
[06:19] <shoeunited> Bluetooth management is enabled.
[06:19] <xtknight> shoeunited, can you give us some details on your bluetooth device
[06:19] <openros> I tried with a same video dvd, 1gb
[06:19] <shoeunited> It's built in.  I can grab the specs and put them on pastebin.  It's an acer aspire 4520 notebook though.
[06:20] <xtknight> shoeunited, can you pastebin the output of sudo lshw
[06:20] <hack> hola
[06:20] <shoeunited> alright
[06:20] <shoeunited> Alright, just a moment. :)
[06:22] <shoeunited> xtknight, http://pastebin.com/m3cdfdf35
[06:22] <openro1> ﻿ I tried with a same video dvd, 1gb
[06:22] <openro1> 600mb copied sucessfully and also played till that 600mb in ubuntu... but windows stopped inbetween and deleted the file
[06:22] <softwaretech> Can someone help me get setup a Lexmark printer on Ubuntu?
[06:23] <openro1> so felt amasing to learn about few internals
[06:23] <xtknight> shoeunited, ah i dont see any bluetooth stuff in there.. usually lshw shows everything.  to be honest i dont know much about bluetooth, im sorry
[06:23] <shoeunited> Well, I appreciate the try. :)  But I know it has bluetooth cause the documentation says it's onboard and I got a button.  lol
[06:23] <xtknight> shoeunited, do check out the keyword bluetooth in Synaptic
[06:23] <xtknight> there's bluetoth device scanners and graphical utilities
[06:23] <shoeunited> I did.  They all turn up red.
[06:24] <shoeunited> Er.
[06:24] <shoeunited> To say, none of them worked :/
[06:24] <xtknight> yeah hmm
[06:24] <xtknight> shoeunited, humor me and restart the bluetooth service
[06:24] <Utalcn2me> shoeunited, it might be something silly like having it turned on at bootup, although i doubt it.
[06:24] <xtknight> try reload, and then restart  on sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth
[06:25] <tannji> can anyone help me with pulse audio setup?  seem to have sound according to meters, but no qaudio to headphones or speakers
[06:25] <shoeunited> Well, I'll try restarting the service first.  Then I'll take a peek @ the bios.
[06:25] <shoeunited> It's probably something stupid like turned off on bios. T_T
[06:25] <esac> shoeunited: whats wrong ?
[06:25] <xtknight> shoeunited, you have a bluetooth receiver right?
[06:25] <xtknight> or w/e you need
[06:25] <shoeunited> I got a phone with it.
[06:25] <shoeunited> And a laptop with it.
[06:25] <shoeunited> Am I missing something?
[06:26] <Ademan> does anyone know how to allocate more system ram as VRAM for intel GMA 915 integrated video devices?
[06:26] <esac> shoeunited: bluetooth is enabled on the phone ?
[06:26] <shoeunited> esac, yes
[06:26] <xtknight> shoeunited, i'm missing the model of yuour bluetooth receiver.  we need to find a driver for it, i tink
[06:26] <shoeunited> Hmmm
[06:26] <esac> shoeunited: from terminals, what does 'hcitool scan' show ?
[06:26] <xtknight> shoeunited, like the bluetooth adapter on the laptop.  it might be in lspci
[06:26] <shoeunited> No such device
[06:27] <keta> !lamp
[06:27] <shoeunited> Could I use an ndiswrapper for this?
[06:27] <shoeunited> Getting the drivers isn't very difficult.
[06:27] <esac> shoeunited: then its not finding a driver for your bluetooth receiver on your laptop
[06:27] <knoppix> hello guys
[06:27] <xtknight> shoeunited, ndiswrapper only suports NDIS(network) drivers
[06:27] <shoeunited> Alright. :)
[06:27] <knoppix> thank you for the help before
[06:27] <shoeunited> So. :/
[06:27] <shoeunited> lol
[06:27] <shoeunited> Point me in a direction and I'll start google attacking it. ^_^
[06:28] <esac> shoeunited: most laptops expose the bluetooth receiver as USB to linux. what does 'lsusb' show ?
[06:28] <shoeunited> What kills me is other people saying that the bluetooth works for them fine with Hardy.
[06:28] <esac> shoeunited: mine shows "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0a5c:2110 Broadcom Corp. "
[06:28] <xtknight> shoeunited, with your model?>
[06:29] <jgoo> Right - firefox freezing issue - first, if you have no idea what I am talking about, don't ask me about my plugins - there is only one major cause of the 30-45 second freezes of firefox right? that is the fsync issue?
[06:29] <shoeunited> Lsusb shows 6 items.
[06:29] <xtknight> jgoo, fsync? hmm never heard of it?
[06:29] <shoeunited> there are 3 ports.
[06:29] <jgoo> is this still a widespread issue? I thought it was fixed - Firefox has been unusable for a month now.
[06:29] <Utalcn2me> anyone have a eee pc fully functional here running hardy?
[06:29] <shoeunited> My model is an Acer Aspire 4520
[06:29] <jgoo> xtknight, brave job
[06:29] <esac> shoeunited: pastebin it
[06:29] <shoeunited> Np.
[06:30] <knoppix> so thanks
[06:30] <chuy_max> esac, as the man says, it lists your usb devices
[06:30] <ng0L> jgoo: i have problem with browser on my ubuntu too, but it is not only firefox.
[06:30]  * esac meant to write a script so that you can do "command | /usr/bin/pastebin" but hasnt had a chance
[06:30] <myr> Utalcn2me, i installed hardy on my eee and it worked ok. i then installed eeexubuntu because it runs faster
[06:30] <shoeunited> http://pastebin.com/d1da28423
[06:30] <binskipy2u> anyone tell me what the command is (if its possible) for force install an i386 package on ubuntu x86_64?
[06:30] <esac> chuy_max: ???
[06:30] <chuy_max> esac, lol
[06:30] <xtknight> binskipy2u, add --force-architecture
[06:30] <xtknight> to dpkg
[06:30] <chuy_max> that was dumb, sorry
[06:30] <xtknight> proceed at your own risk
[06:30] <jgoo> So, I am googling around for other possible 'firefox freezing' issues - but I can't believe that it isn't widespread, I have a vanilla install here on two machines, and on both if I open a few too many tabs, or close a few too many, it greys out.
[06:31] <binskipy2u> does it "always work" when you force it?
[06:31] <binskipy2u> i mean, will it at least install
[06:31] <Utalcn2me> myr, i bet compiz doesn't work well on it, does it?
[06:31]  * shoeunited coughs metacity --replace
[06:31] <jgoo> Surely this is on of those fast diagnosis problems, but there is nothing in the /title on this chan, and in the bug report, which I read all of, nothing to suggest any real fix or work around
[06:31] <jgoo> then that idiotic blog post assigning blame to someone else.
[06:31] <xtknight> jgoo, what is the link to the bug report?
[06:32] <jgoo> xtknight, google: firefox fsync bug
[06:32] <myr> Utalcn2me, i'm not really sure; i didn't use hardy for more than a few days. i recall it worked fine though
[06:33] <tannji> anyone able to help me configure pulse audio?
[06:33] <Utalcn2me> myr, i want one, i bet xubuntu would work perfect on it
[06:33] <jgoo> Froze again, this time clicking play on an embedded flash - actually, I saw a post recently 'flash no longer kills firefox on linux' ?
[06:33] <jgoo> adobe have updated flash player? maybe it is flash causing all these freezes, the tab I was just on opened two embedded youtube videos
[06:34] <xtknight> i heard of problems with flash 10
[06:34] <shoeunited> jgoo, what kind of video card are you using?
[06:34] <myr> Utalcn2me, it runs quite nice ;]
[06:34] <Utalcn2me> jgoo, try deleting .mozilla, maybe it's something like that
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> jgoo is this ff3 from ubuntu repos or did you dl it yourself
[06:34] <myr> Utalcn2me, boots around 55 seconds
[06:34] <shoeunited> I've had this problem before.
[06:34] <shoeunited> A few different times.
[06:34] <shoeunited> lol  On different setups.
[06:34] <myr> Utalcn2me, i have the 701 model
[06:34] <jgoo> shoeunited, no idea, ordered PC, got sent something entirely different with vista on it, I just put ubuntu cd in and installed, and everything worked, compiz too, so really I had no cause to know what graphics card I am using... which is quite impressive really
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jgoo is this ff3 from ubuntu repos or did you dl it yourself
[06:35] <jgoo> If only people would stop asking me to fix their broken windows installs now...
[06:35] <ShaqFu2Fu> Hi, I'm trying to install Martian on 64 bit Hardy to get a lucent modem to work. Only problem is when I go to 'make all' it returns an error along the lines of 'gnu/stubs-32.h' no such file or directory. It's a 64/32 bit thing? any ideas on what to get to fix it, if it's possible?
[06:35] <Utalcn2me> myr sounds sweet #}  im holding out for the 1000
[06:35] <shoeunited> One was an Nvidia 6800 (heating issue)  one was an old computer (Compiz issue) and one was a driver issue (get envy)
[06:35] <jgoo> Jack_Sparrow, hrm, the one that was installed with ubuntu (the a1) and then running the updates
[06:35] <Jester45> jgoo: i have the same problem normally with flash videos but sometimes without flash on pages.
[06:36] <jgoo> Utalcn2me, I will try deleting that
[06:36] <jgoo> Jester45, Yeah, sometimes I just have 20 reddit tabs open, or even 2/3 tabs, and it will do it.
[06:36] <jgoo> If I delete .mozilla in future, will I lose all extensions?
[06:36] <shoeunited> Yes.
[06:37] <shoeunited> You'll have to re-get those extensions.
[06:37] <shoeunited> Try getting envy first.
[06:37] <ng0L> shoeunited: how to delete .mozilla?
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jgoo THe problem can easily be in the different extensions
[06:37] <jgoo> ok. I just closed a tab, and it froze again... this could take a while hrm, once it starts, it doesn't stop
[06:37] <xtknight> how did you figure it was the fsync problem?
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> shoeunited Please dont tell people to do that
[06:37] <Jester45> jgoo: but ff3 did fix a ajax update memory leak/cache problem if i let the ajax update go each update was cached.. so after a few days all my memory was gone
[06:37] <shoeunited> Alright.
[06:37] <shoeunited> >.>
[06:37] <jgoo> xtknight, I upgraded, it started freezing, and I read about other people saying it was freezing
[06:37] <Utalcn2me> jgoo, it will be worth it though if it fixes it, i haven't any problems for a while with mine and multiple tabs, flash
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> shoeunited "Envy" is not a good thing to do to your computer
[06:38] <jgoo> never had a problem with firefox and I have been using it since phoenix
[06:38] <xtknight> jgoo, i see.  are you getting the messages like in bug 221009
[06:38] <Zimbo> Hi guys... quick question: Where do I find the settings for my Ethernet card in Ubuntu 8.04?   System->Admin->Network only shows "Wired Connection" and "Point to Point Connection," but not an Ethernet card... even though it's clearly installed and running since I'm using it here. :-)  I want to go and change, e.g., whether it uses a DHCP server or has a fixed IP, etc.
[06:38] <esac> shoeunited: can i ask how you know you have bluetooth on the laptop ?
[06:38] <manguy> what is Envy?
[06:38] <xtknight> [75613.478586] firefox(21767): dirtied inode 4784273 (places.sqlite-stmtjrnl) on dm-2
[06:38] <xtknight> etc??
[06:38] <shoeunited> It's on the box, in the specs, and there's a bluetooth button above they keyboard.
[06:38] <xtknight> !envy | manguy
[06:38] <esac> manguy: Envy is when you desire something that someone else has
[06:38] <Ayabara> I'm trying to get started with c++ today. Anyone got a good IDE to recommend? I use emacs at the moment, but it would be nice to have something that could offer me a bit of free help with code completion and stuff
[06:38] <jgoo> xtknight, ? I think he was running debugging
[06:38] <shoeunited> And before I formatted Vista home Prem.  It had it.
[06:38] <manguy> Thanks
[06:39] <jgoo> xtknight, without that he was just seeing this behaviour
[06:39] <shoeunited> And there's vista drivers.
[06:39] <esac> shoeunited: ok i ask because i was reading that some 4520's dont have it :)
[06:39] <Jester45> Zimbo: run ifconfig in a terminal to show the settings
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> manguy A script that tries to install your drivers,  We reworked a version of it for your repos, but the original can mess you up and keep the real drivers from working
[06:39] <shoeunited> Well, it came to my mind too.  hehe ^_^
[06:39] <Zimbo> Jester45: That works, but surely there's a GUI somewhere to edit the settings?
[06:39] <manguy> Jack_Sparrow: Ack, that's not good
[06:39] <xtknight> jgoo, he was running it from the terminal, i'm not sure if he used debug but that would be the next step is to see if it really is fsync
[06:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[06:40] <esac> shoeunited: a couple of other posts ive read say that bluetooth works out of the box on hardy. do you get the bluetooth icon in your system tray ?
[06:40] <shoeunited> I suppose I could just buy a usb bluetooth adapter from Wal-mart.  Do those work out of the box?
[06:40] <EvilSpork> Hiya... I have a really weird question. I'm running two lcd monitors on an nvidia card with TwinView enabled. If I'm using totem, even if it's just playing an audio file and no video, it somehow causes one or both of my monitors to get fed an impossible signal and blank out. I've actually had the monitor tell me it's getting a 30 fps refresh rate...!!
[06:40] <shoeunited> No I don't.  That's what's killing me. lol
[06:40] <Jester45> Zimbo: system > administration > network tools > device > configure
[06:40] <xtknight> EvilSpork, is tv out enabled in totem or something
[06:40] <EvilSpork> What's up with that? There are no video modes in xorg.conf that would have such wacky parameters.
[06:40] <EvilSpork> Unknown, going to check.
[06:40] <EvilSpork> 30 hz does sound like a TV res...
[06:40] <Jester45> Zimbo: my wording might be off i dont use gnome so im going from memory
[06:41] <esac> shoeunited: when i run 'hcitool scan' it says Scanning ... and then just goes back to a prompt since there are no devices. i know this probably isnt helpful at all :(
[06:41] <EvilSpork> No TV out
[06:41] <welkin> utalcn2me>>> is there any other email clients cause i cant understand how mutt works and i searched in google i cant find any  useful link for tat
[06:41] <cruddpuppet> Can someone help me set up screenlets?
[06:41] <Jester45> EvilSpork: thats a TV frequency :) not resoultion
[06:41] <cruddpuppet> I have been trying all day, and do not know what to do. ;-;
[06:41] <shoeunited> esac, I recieved the same results.
[06:41] <Jester45> !ask | cruddpuppet
[06:41] <Zimbo> Jester45: Thanks, that works on this machine.  On another one "Configure" is greyed out... any idea why that might be?
[06:41] <EvilSpork> Sorry, I know, brainfart
[06:42] <shoeunited> I appreciate the help, and I'll be back.  But I'm going to check if it wasn't turned off in bios. :)
[06:42] <esac> shoeunited: oh, i thought you said it said "no such device" ?
[06:42] <cruddpuppet> How do I install screenlets? Every time I try using one of the screenlet applications, I keep getting ImportErrors from python.
[06:42] <shoeunited> Oh, yes, that one did.
[06:42] <Jester45> Zimbo: is it your loopback? you cant chage settings for that its only a local interface and shouldnt matter
[06:42] <shoeunited> I was thinking of another
[06:42] <esac> oh ok :)
[06:42] <un2him> how do you upgrade to 8.04.1 that just came out?
[06:43] <Utalcn2me> welkin, you configure mutt at the .muttrc, but there are others, although i havent used them - i think someone mentioned pine, or alpine witch is a non-free one
[06:43] <EvilSpork> When the problem occurrs, it persists after totem is closed. My method of getting the video back has been to blindly hit the logout button and switch user, which restarts the x server and gets both back on
[06:43] <dumples> can anyone walk me through installing Compiz?
[06:43] <Zimbo> Jester45: I take it back, even on this machine when I click "Configure" (for Eth0) it says, "The interface does not exist," even though the main dialog is correctly tallying up xmitted bytes/received bytes, etc!
[06:43] <evilbug> un2him- you can just use update manager.
[06:43] <shoeunited> Jack_Sparrow, Sorry didn't mean to butt in.  I'm a bit over the top.  >.>
[06:43] <evilbug> un2him- or the alternative/live cd.
[06:43] <esac> shoeunited: what does "hcitool dev" list ?
[06:43] <welkin> utalcn2me>>> do u know how to configure in .muttrc?
[06:43] <EvilSpork> I don't know if it has anything to do with the two monitors having different res's; both are 1024 high, but one is widescreen and the other's just a 1280x1024
[06:44] <shoeunited> It says Devices:   and then the following line is prompt.
[06:44] <cruddpuppet> How do I install screenlets? Every time I try using one of the screenlet applications, I keep getting ImportErrors from python. ;-;
[06:44] <chuy_max> dumples, I think its installed by default, you have to install the correct drivers if they are not
[06:44] <esac> shoeunited: ok well that confirms that it isnt finding your bluetooth adapter.
[06:44] <bullgard4> un2him: Press System > Administration > Update Manager. That's it. Version .1 is only a CD version.
[06:45] <didymus7777> ok, what is the diffrence, besides the gui install between the server and the desktop ubuntu
[06:45] <shoeunited> Thank you esac :)   I'm gonna make a run to the Bios and see if it wasn't disabled.
[06:45] <Jester45> Zimbo: may be a strange thing but try turning off eth0 then configure... idk it would work but it just seems like somthing you would need to do
[06:45] <esac> shoeunited: good idea :)
[06:45] <Jester45> Zimbo: but thats just a blind guess
[06:45] <un2him> bullgard4: thanks.
[06:45] <Zimbo> Jester45: I guess I'll be gone for a moment then, while I it down -- thanks for the help
[06:45] <Zimbo> while I shut it down
[06:46] <Jester45> didymus7777: i think desktop install uses sudo and server install enables root
[06:46] <Jester45> didymus7777: but i may be wrong i just remeber reading that somewhere
[06:46] <EvilSpork> Server doesn't have root enabled by default
[06:46] <EvilSpork> as far as I know
[06:47] <chuy_max> !root
[06:47] <Utalcn2me> welkin, yes and no, been a while - but there are many examples on google, that you could copy and modify in your own .muttrc - but some are using imap and other wierd examples
[06:47] <welkin> utalcn2me>>> k... thanks....
[06:47] <RAdams> why is update-usplash-theme not able to use the usplash.so files I dropped into /usr/lib/usplash?  "sudo update-usplash-theme dark-ubuntu" returns "update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/lib/usplash/dark-ubuntu.so'." when the file is there with same ownership/permissions as the working default...
[06:48] <myr> thats freakin sweet
[06:48] <jgoo_> What happens when you load a few tabs to try and get firefox to hit the bug you've been seeing?
[06:48] <jgoo_> Segmentation fault
[06:48] <EvilSpork> Well, you can know the root password, if you set it :D
[06:48] <dumples> im trying to get the wobbly windows and such
[06:48] <EvilSpork> sudo passwd root
[06:48] <EvilSpork> but this is not recommended.
[06:48] <dumples> and it isnt working
[06:48] <RAdams> there's no need to set the root password
[06:48] <EvilSpork> Ok, I think I may have my issue figured out. It's a quirk with the nvidia binary driver and how it handles refresh rates, or rather, how it fakes 'em.
[06:48] <RAdams> sudo su if you need to do extended root tasks
[06:49] <ePax> Sudo -i works fine 2
[06:49] <RAdams> that too
[06:49] <enos> !wine
[06:49] <EvilSpork> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.07/README/chapter-07.html#id2546809
[06:49] <EvilSpork> This looks like the answer.
[06:49] <EvilSpork> Gonna test it... brb
[06:49] <RAdams> why is update-usplash-theme not able to use the usplash.so files I dropped into /usr/lib/usplash?  "sudo update-usplash-theme dark-ubuntu" returns "update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/lib/usplash/dark-ubuntu.so'." when the file is there with same ownership/permissions as the working default...
[06:49] <jgoo_> Actually, I have the EXACT same problem on an XP machine, where firefox freezes - the only difference is it obviously doesn't give a visual cue that it has frozen
[06:50] <EvilSpork> Yow! Didn't work!
[06:50] <bullgard4> [GNOME] What is the name of the program which will show the icons of all open programs on the current workspace in the middle of the screen, if you press Alt+Tab?
[06:50] <ePax> !nvidia | EvilSpork
[06:51] <didymus7777> so if root is not inabled in the server addition (i actually like that) then there is really nothing diffrent between the server addition and the desktop?  agian other then the gui.  If someone knowes were I can go to compair the two that would work too. I hate bugging people, But I also hate searching for days
[06:51] <Utalcn2me> dumples, you set up stuff for compiz in your compizconfig-settings-manager - also you need to turn compiz on
[06:52] <ePax> didymus7777: By default on all ubuntus root is not enabled. But you can log in ass user root with sudo -i
[06:52] <RAdams> didymus7777: the server edition has several tweaks to work well in such an environment, and also does not include tools geared more towards desktop uses. for more info, see the ubuntu server wiki or #ubuntu-server
[06:52] <welkin> utalcn2me>>> do u knw how to work in irssi
[06:52] <didymus7777> thank you RAdams
[06:52] <Utalcn2me> dumples, also you might have to set visual setting to extra
[06:53] <RAdams> why is update-usplash-theme not able to use the usplash.so files I dropped into /usr/lib/usplash?  "sudo update-usplash-theme dark-ubuntu" returns "update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/lib/usplash/dark-ubuntu.so'." when the file is there with same ownership/permissions as the working default...
[06:53] <Utalcn2me> welkin, once again irssi uses a .rc file to store your configurations
[06:54] <Jester45> ePax: watch your language :)
[06:54] <welkin> utalcn2me>>> do u knw how to quit it... i cant quit it
[06:54] <ePax> Jester45: -s (;
[06:54] <ubunubi> i'm trying to add my swap partition to fstab...does it need a mountpoint?
[06:54] <Jester45> ubunubi: no make the mount point none
[06:55] <ubunubi> jester: does swap even need an fstab entry?
[06:55] <Jester45> ubunubi: if you want to have it activated after each boot
[06:55] <Utalcn2me> welkin, sorry, it's been a while, and i used to be into it like you are getting into it, im too lazy and old to remember much any more :P  i think you quit with a /bye or something
[06:55] <RAdams> ubunubi:  "none            swap    sw              0       0" by default
[06:55] <welkin> utalcn2me>>> k.. ill try
[06:55] <dumples> it wont let me switch to extra, it starts going into a cosby-like rant about restricted drivers
[06:56] <Utalcn2me> welkin, irssi has a great help file - try /help
[06:56] <brdk_ayat2_metal> aya awe2an eweuh
[06:56] <RAdams> dumples: you need to have a video driver installed capable of supporting compiz effects
[06:56] <ePax> dumples: Did you install your drivers properly? nvidia or ati? is it enabled in restricted drivers?
[06:56] <welkin> utalcn2me>>> it helped.... it works..... finally it quit
[06:57] <Jester45> ubunubi: i dont use swap unless i see my memory getting used up then i make a swapfile.. but i guess i could just set swapiness to 0 if i dont want to use it till the end
[06:57] <ubunubi> Jester45: i have swappiness set to 0. but i need swap space for hibernation i'm told
[06:57] <Jester45> ubunubi: true
[06:58] <Utalcn2me> welkin, keep trying, you will be a command line genius before you know it
[06:58] <dumples> its enabled, im not sure what kind of video driver i have, i got the computer from a friend with a broken windows system on it and decided to install ubuntu, when i opened it up there were spiderwebs and crap all throughout it :( i didnt think to check it out when i had it open
[06:58] <ubunubi> Jester45: so i have swappiness set to 0 so it's not used for real swap space (i think), and 2x RAM for hibernate
[06:58] <welkin> utalcn2me>>> thanks a lot.... i gtg now.. bye....
[06:58] <RAdams> ubunubi, jester45: even if you do not typically use the swap space, it is highly recommended for system stability.
[06:58] <Jester45> ubunubi: hibernation puts all  your ram onto disk (read swap) so that after a reboot it just puts all the swap/ram back into ram
[06:59] <ubunubi> Jester45: nod. that's how i understand it. getting hibernate to work with ati drivers should be fun
[06:59] <ubunubi> about to test it
[06:59] <RAdams> Jester45: it also writes to the head of the active partition as well :)
[06:59] <dumples> So, how would I check my sysyem specs without opening up my computer
[06:59] <Jester45> RAdams: i dont like waiting for my disk to spin up.. and it a 4 drive raid so its a lot of unneeded noise/energy
[06:59] <ubunubi> brb wish me luck
[06:59] <RAdams> jester45: swappiness to 0 is better than no swap at all, for sanity
[06:59] <aliasnexus0> is anyone here savvy with setting up a fusion5 pci card under mythbuntu?
[07:00] <RAdams> !ask | aliasnexus0
[07:00] <Jester45> well im not sane then
[07:00] <RAdams> Jester45: fair enough :)
[07:00] <Jester45> lol
[07:00] <Knome> how long does a ban last??
[07:00] <karasuman> 1247 people?  Wow.
[07:00] <RAdams> has anyone successfully switched usplash themes in hardy?
[07:00] <dumples> ....just realized the sticker on the front, is a "4X AGP nVIdia TNT2 M64 good enough to run it?
[07:01] <Jester45> forever or untill the end of time... what ever comes first
[07:01] <aliasnexus0> well that's fair enough. i have mythbuntu working great with a pvr-150 card, my fusion5 hdtv is giving me issues on the other hand.
[07:01] <Jester45> Knome: im not sure that was a joke
[07:01] <RAdams> dumples: considering I'm running compiz effects on a card 3 generations older than that, probably :)
[07:01] <Knome> Jester45: what?
[07:01] <_NiC> If I use prevu to build backported packages from intrepid for use on hardy, how much trouble might I get when I want to do a dist-upgrade later?
[07:01] <Knome> Jester45: my quit?
[07:02] <dumples> well thats good to know, so how would i find these fabled drivers of lore?
[07:02] <EvilSpork> Blaaaaargh. I've even tried fixing the resolutions/refresh rates from nvidia-settings
[07:02] <RAdams> _NiC: depends on if they're being tracked by dpkg.
[07:02] <Jester45> Knome: i made a stupid joke just ignore me
[07:02] <RAdams> !restricteddrivers | dumples
[07:02] <EvilSpork> the driver still scrambles it!
[07:02] <RAdams> ah screw off bot
[07:02] <_NiC> radams, they will be, I was thinking about doing the compiles on a separate box, and then add those to a local repository for the other servers
[07:02] <RAdams> dumples: Restricted hardware Drivers
[07:02] <Karsynoma> Alright, gents, I seem to be having a bit of a problem. As juvenile as it sounds, I'm having a bit of trouble running the OpenGL-run form of RuneScape, and although their dedicated area of the FAQ does help with resolution, there's another issue.
[07:03] <Knome> Jester45: oh, well i was banned after i exited the channel because my quit message was kiss my a**, in ##linux
[07:03] <myr> my laptop case has a small crack, can i download some software to fix it?
[07:03] <ubunubi> Jester45: sadly didn't work. when i clicked hibernate it waited a bit, then shutdown ,but when i powered on the machine it went through the regular boot process -- suggestions?
[07:03] <EvilSpork> Uh, yeah, check http://jbweld.net/
[07:03] <Jester45> Knome: well that depends on the channel. you might have to talk to a channel op about that
[07:03] <RAdams> _NiC: you should be ok, as the dist-upgrade will have a higher version, but YMMV :)
[07:04] <Utalcn2me> im running compiz using the open ati driver and it works great, although i cant get the raindrop effect to work, i don't have anything to compare it to though
[07:04] <RAdams> has anyone successfully switched usplash themes in hardy?
[07:04] <_NiC> radams: as always.. :-) I would like to have a newer rsyslog for some queuing-support and relp.. hardy has 1.19 and I want 3.16+ :)
[07:04] <Karsynoma> The problem is pretty much this; while the game does load and the graphics do display properly, I have to continuously move the mouse in order to keep the frames moving, otherwise it'll just stop on one frame and not move at all.
[07:05] <Jester45> Utalcn2me: i had the same problem on a radeon 9250 but it works on my x300
[07:05] <unop> Knome, it's upto the channel ops really -- could be an hour, could be a month, forever - depends -- not nice using profanity anywhere on freenode
[07:05] <Karsynoma> The question is, what would cause this to occur in an OpenGL-run Java application?
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> knome You were banned in ubuntu and kubuntu and now you are ban evading
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> ?
[07:05] <Knome> ?
[07:05] <RAdams> !enter | Karsynoma
[07:05] <Utalcn2me> Jester45, im using an ati9200 i think - works anyway
[07:06] <Knome> ive never entered kubuntu
[07:06] <Karsynoma> ubottu: My apologies, I'll rephrase the question.
[07:06] <Karsynoma> Ugh.
[07:06] <_NiC> hehe
[07:06] <Jester45> Utalcn2me: everythign else in compiz worked just not water. can you make the drops with your mouse ? i  coudnt do anything
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> knome It looks like those were both removed already
[07:06] <RAdams> ﻿_NiC: you should be alright... just make sure any and all dependencies updated to satisfy your new packages are tracked through dpkg... it is never safe to assume that just because the primary package you build is tracked in dpkg, that the dependencies are too
[07:06] <Knome> and i talked to someone in ubuntu-ops and i changed my exit message and they unbanned me
[07:06] <Jester45> Utalcn2me: i can give you a screenshot if you would like
[07:07] <Karsynoma> Alright, more important things are going on here, I'll wait until later to get the question answered.
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Knome I was going by ip..
[07:07] <RAdams> Knome: your ban in ##linux needs to be taken up with the admins there
[07:07] <ubunubi> My Hibernation didn't go as planned. It shutdown properly, but powering on my machine went through the normal boot process (Instead of loading the hibernation file back into RAM) -- any suggestions?
[07:07] <_NiC> radams, yeah.
[07:07] <RAdams> Karsynoma: all you have to do is ask the question on one line, to make it easy for us to read. if someone knows, someone will answer.
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Knome that was pici that did that for you
[07:07] <Knome> RAdams: i asked about it in linux-ops but no one said anything yet
[07:07] <Utalcn2me> Jester45, fire works - and maybe some other stuff doesn't work - but no raindrops
[07:07] <_NiC> radams, thanks for your input. :)
[07:08] <RAdams> _NiC: sounds like you're all set. good luck, have fun with that :)
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Knome FYI it is offtopic in here
[07:08] <_NiC> radams, thanks:)
[07:08] <Knome> Jack_Sparrow: i know, i brought it up in linux- but no one said anything and i needed help somewhere
[07:08] <Knome> *linux-ops
[07:08]  * myr has reset peer's connection
[07:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Knome And I am asking nicely to stop..
[07:09] <_NiC> knome, that doesn't make it any more on-topic
[07:09] <bazhang> !ot > Knome
[07:10] <Karsynoma> Alright, the issue is with the new version of RuneScape, the one that is apparently run with OpenGL, for some reason I can load the game itself, but the Java applet requires me to constantly move the mouse around on it to update what's on the screen. The drivers for my ATI card support OpenGL (can't think of one that doesn't), and I can run other OpenGL games with no issue. Any suggestions as to why this would be o
[07:10] <Karsynoma> ccuring?
[07:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang goodnight
[07:10] <bazhang> cya Jack_Sparrow
[07:10] <lat> Why am I getting the following when running aticonfig: "Uninitialised file found, configuring.
[07:10] <lat> Error: Section # expected
[07:10] <lat> aticonfig: parsing the command-line failed.
[07:10] <karasuman> I sort of have a less linux-y question, but if anyone knows about stuff like this and wants to help, I'd appreciate it.  ;)  I don't understand the concept of NP-completeness, even after reading the wikipedia page.
[07:11] <RAdams> Karsynoma: what JRE are you using? what version is it?
[07:11] <Karsynoma> RAdams: I'm using JRE 1.6, the one that shipped with Linux Mint Elyssa/Hardy.
[07:11] <rand0m> this is a total long shot but is it at all possible to resume a bittorrent download that i started in winxp (on my ntfs partition obviously)
[07:11] <rand0m> while running ubuntu
[07:11] <jkoltner> OK, I have two machines that are now working just fine with their Ethernet cards, but "sudo network-admin --configure eth0" just produces the error message, "The interface does not exist...," even though ifconfig certainly shows an eth0 with an assigned IP address, etc.  Anyone know what's going on?
[07:12] <encoded> hellloo
[07:12] <_NiC> rand0m, should be, copy the files and do a rehash. can't hurt. :>
[07:12] <Karsynoma> RAdams: Let me rephrase that, it's version 6. I'm thinking of the plugin.
[07:12] <Jester45> rand0m: yes put the data in your download directory for bittorrent and start it. if your windows  client is set for full allocation set bittorrent to the same, or sparse to sparse. it might help
[07:13] <RAdams> Karsynoma: I would check and see if that version satisfies RuneScape. Sounds like an issue with the JRE if anything. Might want to check the TransGaming forums and their dev team, they've done a lot of work on that and might know.
[07:13] <dumples> How would i install a restricted driver?
[07:13] <ePax> jkoltner: Your comp mught be using ath0 or eth1... type ifconfig to see
[07:13] <RAdams> dumples: check it off, enter your password, grab a cup of coffee, come back, restart
[07:13] <jkoltner> Would anyone be willing to try "sudo network-admin --configure eth0" on their own machine and let me know if they get the same error message or not?  (I'm using 8.04, BTW.)
[07:14] <dumples> Its checked, it just isnt working
[07:14] <jkoltner> ePax: It's using eth0... the first few lines of ifconfig are: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:08:41:b1:91
[07:14] <jkoltner>           inet addr:192.168.2.105  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[07:14] <karasuman> I'll give it a try, jkoltner, unless someone screams "NO DON'T THAT'S DUMB"
[07:14] <jkoltner> Thanks karasuman
[07:14] <dumples> It would be in the hardware drivers section right?
[07:15] <karasuman> unable to look up session information.  sorry. :-/
[07:15] <RAdams> dumples: yes. if it isn't working, then i would google around using your exact card model and see if others had that problem... sometimes you need to tweak xorg or your modules to get it working right.
[07:15] <jkoltner> Hmm.... it seems as though the network tools in 8.04 aren't quite in line with whatever's really going on in Ubuntu networking these days
[07:16] <dumples> would you mind explaining xorg?
[07:16] <ubunubi> can something that asks for a partitions UUID also be referenced with /dev/sdaX ?
[07:16] <dumples> i have no idea what it is
[07:16] <RAdams> ubunubi: depends on what it is
[07:17] <jkoltner> Ah, this is apparently a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/184711
[07:17] <RAdams> !xorg | dumples
[07:17] <jkoltner> Thanks for the confirmation, ubottu
[07:17] <ubunubi> RAdams: i looked up a tutorial on fixing my hibernate issue. it says i have to rebuild my initramfs by creating a initramfs/conf/conf.d/resume  file containing something like "RESUME=UUID=11e49f41-85e5-4889-873e-efc1be92f07d"
[07:18] <ubunubi> RAdams: my swap (in fstab) doesn't have a UUID seemingly set. so i'm wondering if it's okay to reference it via /dev/sda7 instead
[07:18] <jkoltner> Bizarre that these sorts of bugs make it into full releases -- I mean, this seems like the kind of error I could see my grandmother running into... but of course I'm just happy that Ubuntu works in general!
[07:18] <karasuman> it seems like there a lot of bugs that make it into this kind of thing...
[07:18] <unop> RAdams, it should be ok
[07:18] <dumples> thanks, also what is with people putting a ! in front of words?
[07:18] <karasuman> but at least it's the sort of thing that actually affects the people who fix it, so it might get fixed someday :)
[07:18] <karasuman> alternatively, at least you didn't pay for it. :)
[07:18] <Karsynoma> RAdams: The minimum Java requirement to run the game is 1.4.2, so I should be in the clear. If anyone else would care to give it a go, here's a direct link to one of the worlds running this version of the game. No login required, what gets displayed is more or less a compatibility test. As mentioned, the resolution isn't a problem, I've got that working: http://world73.runescape.com/p0,g1
[07:18] <jkoltner> Good point
[07:18] <unop> dumples, that's people asking the bot to tell you about factoids
[07:19] <Karsynoma> RAdams: Thanks for your assistance either way.
[07:19] <karasuman> I just switched to Ubuntu about a month ago because Dell wouldn't let me get my laptop with XP.
[07:19] <RAdams> ubunubi: find the uuid of the drive in question then: sudo vol_id -u /dev/sd{whatever}
[07:19] <karasuman> I can't believe that's what it took!
[07:19] <babola1> SITUATION: 2 Hard disks: /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. sda has default ubuntu partition table. sdb has two partitions: first is ntfs, second is ext2. QUESTION: How do you identify the ntfs partition in the form/convention (hd0,0) ?
[07:19] <karasuman> I'd never go back.
[07:19] <kapace> ﻿k, i just compiled http://www.trunix.org/programlama/os/elf-hl/Documentation/elf/node7.html ,this in ubuntu and it says "bash: ./dltest: Permission denied" and im root
[07:19] <RAdams> Karsynoma: good luck
[07:19] <ubunubi> RAdams: thanks. found it
[07:20] <babola1> kapace: use sudo
[07:20] <kapace> i di
[07:20] <kapace> im root
[07:20] <RAdams> ubunubi: in that case it is fine to use /dev/{whatever}, but uuid is preferred
[07:20] <jkoltner> Karasuman: At least for use at home, the only real app that doesn't exist for Linux is something like Delorme Street Atlas USA.  Other than that I'd be a full-time Ubuntu user.
[07:20] <ubunubi> RAdams: what's the difference? technically speaking?
[07:20] <_NiC> ubunubi, the uuid's will not change, the /dev/* might
[07:20] <karasuman> I still have my PC with XP on it for when I really need it, I guess.  Mostly, that's playing games.
[07:20] <RAdams> ubunubi: uuid doesn't change with the drive's place in the chain
[07:20] <babola1> kapace: check ownership of the directory ./ or use chmod 777 or chown user
[07:21] <ubunubi> RAdams: so the uuid is some type of hash of the partition that makes it truly unique?
[07:21] <kapace> babola1: ok just a sec
[07:21] <RAdams> !uuid | ubunubi
[07:21] <babola1> SITUATION: 2 Hard disks: /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. sda has default ubuntu partition table. sdb has two partitions: first is ntfs, second is ext2. QUESTION: How do you identify the ntfs partition in the form/convention (hd0,0) ?
[07:21] <babola1> !repeat
[07:21] <unop> ubunubi, not a has no -- the uuid is written to the filesystem when it is created
[07:22] <unop> ubunubi, so as long as the filesytem is not formatted again -- it will continue to have the same UUID
[07:22] <unop> hash*
[07:22] <ariqs> I got the spring maps package and I got spring, but I sitll can't play single player games cause it demands I choose a mod and there is no mod to choose
[07:23] <ubunubi> RAdams: someone in a forum post mentions that the UUID of a swap partition can change over time (potentially) ? can you verify/disqualify that?
[07:23] <unop> babola1, second physical disk, first partition -- numbering starts at 0 -- so you get  hd1,0
[07:23] <kapace> babola1: ok did chmod 777 . and checked perms, but still no joy
[07:23] <arooni> (firefox error) /tmp/GHC-Consolidated-Financial-Statements06-07.pdf could not be opened, because an unknown error occurred.  ... why would this happen?
[07:23] <babola1> unop: thanks unop
[07:23] <unop> ubunubi, did you get my last post to you?
[07:23] <kapace> babola1: could it be something to do with libdl
[07:23] <kapace> ?
[07:24] <babola1> kapace: i'm in grub hell right now.. ask someone else.. sorry
[07:24] <kapace> ok
[07:24] <ubunubi> unop: yes, but someone mentioned that swap space is handled different from a regular file system. they didn't state why they think the uuid for their swap changes continuously
[07:25] <RAdams> ubunubi: only if you actually change where the swap is partitioned... some installs use a "tear-up-tear-down" swap, where it never lives on a given partition, it is just created on demand. IMHO, this is a waste of resources and not a stable/sane solution. Long story short: a given partition will retain its UUID until it is reformatted.
[07:26] <ubunubi> radams: k, thanks :) ..now it mentioned i have to recompile/compress this initramfs i have currently decompressed. is there an easy way do to that?
[07:26] <unop> ubunubi, I don't think the assertion is true -- if it were, you'd see a lot of people in here with problems related to that possibility,  i'm not ruling the possibility out, i'm just saying it's quite unlikely
[07:26] <RAdams> ubunubi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[07:27] <ubunubi> unop: radams explanation explains it. if someone doesn't have a defined swap partition, a temporary swap might be created on demand and thus move around
[07:27] <ubunubi> radams: will that ask where i currently have this changed one decompressed?
[07:28] <RAdams> ubunubi: that will recompile the kernel currently in use. what are you trying to do?
[07:29] <ubunubi> radams: i extracted my current initramfs so i could create a file absent (but needed) for hibernation. now that i have my current one extracted, i added the file, now i need the extracted one packed back up, to replace my current packed one
[07:29] <ubunubi> radams: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=781809    following post#1's idea. they just don't explain the steps for the repacking
[07:30] <ubunubi> radams: my initramfs was lacking a /conf/conf.d/resume file telling it where my hibernate image was located (i didn't have swap space when this kernel was compiled)
[07:31] <djzn> I am noticing that my new hard drive which nas "Native Command Queueing" is *HELL* fast on Windows. I checked its properties in the device manager and the "Enable Command Queueing" is TICKED. The chipset is a MCP61 (nvidia). In Linux, the dmesg message said that the NCQ had a depth of 0/31, that is, was not enabled. What's going on?
[07:31] <abhi_>  hi, i am using ubuntu8.04. which has python preinstalled. yesterday i had installed the python by compiling from source. before that python precess was running in background. after installing the new python i am not able applications which depend on python..
[07:31] <arooni> who likes screenlets?  raise your hand!
[07:32] <ubunubi> djzn: NCQ won't give you any noticeable "hella speedup", unless your desktop is funtioning in a super high I/O capacity like a high traffic webserver...NCQ is likely not responsible for any speed difference between windows and your linux install
[07:32] <esac> !ot | arooni
[07:32] <ePax> abhi_: try to install python with synaptic and it will install alll dependencies as well.
[07:33] <derek> Does anyone know of how to go about getting a Broadcom BCM94311 card working in Ubuntu? Jockey recognized it and tried b43, but that didn't work. Neither did Ndiswrapper. Could someone please help?
[07:33] <djzn> ubunubi: hmmm interesting answer!!!
[07:33] <ariqs> I got the spring maps package and I got spring, but I sitll can't play single player games cause it demands I choose a mod and there is no mod to choose
[07:33] <abhi_> ePax, : i have checked the synaptic. it shows python2.5 installed.
[07:33] <ubunubi> ﻿djzn: in fact ncq can cause slight delays when used in a desktop environment with regular desktop file access patterns
[07:33] <mib_nq8a8z> stupid question: what exactly is a release? if all packages are continuously updated, what is the point of a new release?
[07:33] <djzn> ubunubi: hmmm i see
[07:34] <dezzer> anday
[07:34] <bullgard4> [GNOME] What is the name of the program which will show the icons of all open programs on the current workspace in the middle of the screen, if you press Alt+Tab?
[07:34] <Jester45> mib_nq8a8z: all packages are not continuously updated they are updated when its needed.
[07:34] <nickrud> mib_nq8a8z not all packages are updated after a release.
[07:34] <Blice> Hi. On the LiveCD, I hit esc and it took me to text mode. I'm trying to boot into a simple bash. Right now the screen reads "boot:_", do I just type in init=/bin/bash ?
[07:34] <mib_nq8a8z> so a release is an update of certain packages that are otherwise not updated?
[07:34] <djzn> ubunubi: good to know that.. would you think that Windows has the IDE chipset driver that came with the motherboard... that it could enable in windows, whereas the in-house chipset driver in linux kernel could not be providing that?
[07:35] <nickrud> mib_nq8a8z very few, relative to the number in the release. A release starts with a snapshot of debian unstable, then gets ubuntu's massaging/additions
[07:35] <RAdams> mib_nq8a8z: it's a signficant milestone, and allows a new user to jump into the game with a relatively up to date system. also, some packages are held back until the next release, as they can not be updated until certain dependencies are met. to get a better idea of the methodology of ubuntu's releases, check the roadmaps for the past and future releases to see what they went for/are going for
[07:35] <RAdams> ﻿ubunubi: ﻿find . -print -depth | cpio -ov > tree.cpio is what you want, according to the man page
[07:36] <Jester45> mib_nq8a8z: and when a large package say GNOME gets updated its generally along with a new release because so much stuff needs to be tested and new stuff added. also a new release means new defualt packages/artwork
[07:36] <abhi_> did anyone have any problem with new 8.04? I am frequently facing my system crash upon installing applications..
[07:36] <raj_> type /msg NickServ help
[07:36] <edlang> Hi -- I'm having difficulty using the python-simpleparse package when attempting to parse an EBNF grammar. Does anyone have experience with using the Ubuntu package?
[07:36] <mib_nq8a8z> i see. thanks, everyone
[07:37] <RAdams> abhi_:  we need more details than that. what is crashing? what errors show up in dmesg? does it happen everytime you install something? did you cleanly install 8.04, or was it an upgrade? if it was an upgrade, what did you upgrade from
[07:37] <ubunubi> radams: that gave me an error that doesn't make sense
[07:38] <RAdams> ubunubi: were you in the right directory when you did it? you need to be in your extracted source
[07:38] <ddalton> on hardy, how do we configure static ip address? same as debian? /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:38] <nickrud> ddalton that works fine
[07:39] <RAdams> ubunubi: you might want to read man cpio
[07:39] <ddalton> nickrud: what should a default interfaces file contain? it doesn't have any reference to eth0
[07:39] <ubunubi> RAdams: no, i wasnt (i was further down in the tree), however cd'ing back to /tmp where the extracted /tmp/initramfs is located seems to have run through the process but i don't see where it put the repackaged initramfs
[07:39] <ddalton> but ifconfig somehow gets an ip
[07:40] <RAdams> has anyone successfully changed their usplash in hardy?
[07:40] <RAdams> ddalton: is networkmanager installed/
[07:40] <RAdams> ?
[07:40] <nickrud> ddalton it's blank because NetworkManager is doing that for you. If you configure eth0 in interfaces, NetworkManager will skip eth0
[07:40] <raj_> can any one tell how to register in ##C ?
[07:40] <nickrud> !register | raj_  (most likely)
[07:40] <RAdams> !ot > raj_
[07:41] <luchador> anyone here play counter strike on ubuntu?
[07:41] <ddalton> so, this interfaces file would be fine for a ubuntu box? http://pastebin.com/f38fd3ac2
[07:42] <nickrud> ddalton that's a standard interfaces stuff
[07:42] <Blice> When booting from a livecd, if I'm at the grub promt, what's the kernel line?
[07:42] <RAdams> ok, workrave is pissed at me. might as well sleep before I have to click postpone again. ubunubi, good luck with that. I would recommend reading man cpio, that can be hairy, but it's rewarding when you get it to work :)
[07:43] <jjun> test
[07:43] <ubunubi> radams: thanks
[07:43] <jjun> hi
[07:43] <ddalton> nickrud: so that's no worries with ubuntu?
[07:43] <ddalton> sorry, i use debian just needing to work on a someone else box
[07:43] <Blice> Anyone?
[07:43] <nickrud> ddalton seriously, all the major infrastructure is identical. ubuntu is too smart to mess with basic networking
[07:44] <Frosty|Music> hey .. im new to linux, so bear with me .. how do i force boot into a kernel, bypassing the bootloader?
[07:44] <arooni> rae there can someone please tell me where to go to edit the 'quicksearch' listings for firefox?  these are things that when you type 'g {term}' it searches google for the term.
[07:44] <Frogzoo> Blice: "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=8f249e8e-18a7-467b-860e-d8eb245fe03d "
[07:44] <ddalton> nickrud: ok, good. thanks.
[07:45]  * nickrud generally looks for debian docs for everything but the desktop, anyway
[07:45] <Flannel> arooni: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/smart-keywords.html
[07:45] <nickrud> Frogzoo did you do that from memory?
[07:46] <Frogzoo> nickrud: sure ;)
[07:47] <Blice> Frogzoo: What's with the root= part? Does that change for each disc?
[07:47] <Josdell> Hi everyone, can someone explain t me what the GRUB Error code 23: Problem Parsing number mean?
[07:47] <LetterRip> hi all any suggestions on automating wifi loading? current after startup i have to do = 'sudo modprobe ath_pci' and 'sudo ifconfig ath0 up'
[07:47] <Frosty|Music> how do i boot into another kernel through ssh console??
[07:47] <m1r> Ubuntu 8.04 alternate cd , i dont see OEM install on boot screen ?
[07:48] <bullgard4> [GNOME] What is the name of the program which will show the icons of all open programs on the current workspace in the middle of the screen, if you press Alt+Tab?
[07:48] <Frogzoo> Blice: use a device path ie  root=/dev/sda1
[07:48] <lachlan_> For a user to be able to create a file within a directory, do they need the 'write' permission only?
[07:49] <Blice> Frogzoo: What's the right device path for a liveCD though?
[07:49] <Frosty|Music> ...how do i change default kernel to RT kernel in ubuntu 8.04 64 bit??
[07:49] <nickrud> LetterRip I'm suprised the kernel isn't loading that module automatically, but you can put it in /etc/modules  on a line by itself, and it will be probed at boot. Make sure you have auto ath0 in /etc/network/interfaces, and it should come up automatically
[07:49] <JaRDinero> ..
[07:50] <LetterRip> nickrud, thanks
[07:50] <Frogzoo> Blice: ooh tricky
[07:50] <Josdell> Hi I installed Ubuntu on a USB Stick, but I can't find what the right partition I have to put as root is, can someone help me, I get an error 23, problem parsing number on USB boot
[07:51] <Flannel> m1r: Its either an f4 option or an f6 option.
[07:51] <m1r> Flannel: tnx, i check
[07:51] <benGoz> Can someone help me with Nvidia driver installation?
[07:51] <benGoz> I have a weird problem
[07:51] <Blice> Frogzoo: Very... With an 8.04 livecd, is there a way to see the current kernel line it's using?
[07:52] <Blice> So I can just edit that?
[07:52] <m1r> Flannel: yes , it has moved there :) tnx for help m8
[07:53] <Flannel> Frosty|Music: After installing the real time kernel, you have a few options, savedefault, removing generic, or changing default to 1 instead of 0 (real time will be listed after generic, assuming they always get updated at the same time, it'll always be second)
[07:54] <YourSoul> hallo
[07:54] <sandman> hi..i recently edited my fstab..now i cant access my partitions..and the places menu shows clones for each partition
[07:56] <JerKB> sandman: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?
[07:57] <benGoz> I did a manual install of nvidia drivers because i couldn't get virtual consoles with nvidia-glx, or nvidia-glx-new, and it works great, but i have to reinstall it every time i reboot.
[07:58] <Frosty|Music> flannel, how do i change the default kernel index?  lilo.conf doesn't exist, and neither does /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:58] <Frosty|Music> (/etc/lilo.conf)
[07:58] <Flannel> Frosty|Music: /boot/grub/menu.lst does exist, or at least, assuming you're on Ubuntu
[07:59] <Frosty|Music> i assure you that it does not exist =)
[07:59] <Frosty|Music> its using lilo as bootloader
[07:59] <Frosty|Music> (this is on a virtual server from slicehost)
[07:59] <Flannel> Frosty|Music: Ah, Well, I have no idea how you'd do it with lilo.  I haven't used lilo in ages.
[07:59] <Frosty|Music> problem is i need to find lilo.conf
[07:59] <LetterRip> whoever made the suggestion - thanks it worked; adding ath_pci to modprobe made it work
[08:00] <aldin> hi, is there some OSS app that uses postfix log file and inserts in in to database - so i could manipulate with data querying?
[08:01] <benGoz> @Frosty, have you tried Places -> Search For Files... -> and search for lilo.conf in filesystem?
[08:01] <sandman> my fstab - http://pastebin.com/m392595d5
[08:01] <X3> hey Fryguy managed to install and boot both xp and ubuntu finally
[08:02] <X3> damm stoopid thing I bet windows was getting jealous
[08:02] <sandman> i had 3 fat entries which i deleted as they were resulting in clones...my mount point was /media
[08:02] <luchador> lol
[08:02] <Frosty|Music> i tried "find * lilo.conf
[08:02] <Frosty|Music> (this is all through SSH so no gui)
[08:03] <benGoz> oh...
[08:04] <benGoz> Maybe try locate lilo.conf
[08:04] <Frosty|Music> well ... lemme ask dif question then
[08:04] <Frosty|Music> do you know of any kernels that default to HZ higher than 50?
[08:04] <Frosty|Music> USER_HZ**
[08:05] <luchador> who here uses steam and ubunt
[08:05] <luchador> cmon someone
[08:05] <Frosty|Music> i'm trying to increase preemption from 50 hz to at least 200hz
[08:05] <Frosty|Music> luchador, i do
[08:05] <Garibaldi_nor> Hi there. I have installed swfdec-mozilla to view flash contect. But looks like firefox is in sirup when showing flash movies. Anyone knows why ?
[08:05] <luchador> do you play css?
[08:05] <Frosty|Music> yes
[08:05] <JerKB> sandman: have you unmounted/remounted since editing fstab?
[08:05] <luchador> k frost mind if i pm you
[08:05] <Frosty|Music> no
[08:05] <Frosty|Music> i dont mind
[08:05] <JerKB> you may want to sudo umount -a then sudo mount -a
[08:06] <sandman> yes i clicked the icons from places manu
[08:06] <sandman> *menu
[08:06] <bsusa> hello, is their a program for linux that you can use to restrict the amount of download and upload. For example i set a limit of 10MB and onces it reaches that it wont all me anymore.
[08:07] <sandman> i also typed sudo mount -a
[08:07] <mdbuntu> can i download the ubuntu cd cover artwork to print on the CDs i burn myself?
[08:07] <Schizoid-SPD> i get 22.8 MB/sec transfer speed from a firewire 400 hd, is that to be expected?
[08:07] <pan23423> tar xzvf VMware-server-1.0.6-91891.tar.gz ~/src/VMWare
[08:07] <pan23423> tar: /home/pan/src/VMWare: Not found in archive
[08:07] <pan23423> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[08:07] <pan23423> ?
[08:07] <FloodBot1> pan23423: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:08] <Frosty|Music> okay... how can i change the default kernel or force boot into a specific kernel?
[08:08] <mdbuntu> is the ubuntu cd cover available for download somewhere?
[08:08] <bsusa> any ideas please
[08:08] <plt258> how do i add a destination in the "send to" when i rite click a file. i have 2 options, email (evolution) and bluetooth (obex push). i want to send to folders on my cel phone using bluetooth, but i cant choose the destination, the only choice i have is the phones root.....
[08:08] <fok|zz> i just want to be able to set it up
[08:08] <fok|zz>  ?
[08:08] <Flannel> mdbuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#head-583904bc6e0db1e10f63387f84053c3437681552
[08:09] <pan23423> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24921/plain/
[08:10] <rkd2> ynirc.net
[08:11] <mdbuntu> Flannel: thanks!
[08:11] <pan23423> anyone can help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24921/plain/
[08:12] <dalla> how come after installing ultimate edition 8.04 theres no window  boarders?
[08:12] <Kaja> dalla, nvidia?
[08:12] <snarkster> evening all
[08:13] <dalla> ok my desk top with ati or my lap top
[08:13] <dalla> same problem
[08:13] <DistroJockey> pan23423, does ~/src/VMWare exist before you try to untar?
[08:13] <pan23423> yes
[08:13] <pan23423> it exists
[08:13] <snarkster> what is the minimum amount of memory to run a full ubuntu system?
[08:14] <dalla> i think it has to do with something with emerald theme
[08:14] <m1r> snarkster: 256mb
[08:14] <DistroJockey> pan23423, and if you just run   tar xzvf VMware-server-1.0.6-91891.tar.gz    while cd's into   ~/src/VMWare   ?
[08:14] <DistroJockey> cd'd^
[08:14] <m1r> snarkster: it can be done even with 128 but not recomended
[08:14] <snarkster> m1r: ah thank you that explains why i cant get the live cd to work on that old cisco wifi manager system.
[08:15] <pan23423> i have not tried that yet
[08:15] <snarkster> and what is the maximum memory amount
[08:15] <pan23423> but i can't choose where i want to put it?
[08:15] <pan23423> extract?
[08:15] <pan23423> i have to put it in that dir?
[08:15] <DistroJockey> pan23423, use   ./
[08:15] <Garibaldi_nor> is it any maximum amount of ram in linux ?
[08:15] <m1r> snarkster: how much memory that have ?
[08:15] <pan23423> ok
[08:15] <snarkster> i have heard somewhere that the max memory is 3gb
[08:16] <m1r> snarkster: for 32bit yes, for 64bit 3gb+
[08:16] <Garibaldi_nor> I'v heard unlimited =P
[08:16] <snarkster> m1r the cisco wifi manager current has 128 but it doesnt work. just hangs up as soon as the desktop appears
[08:16] <Garibaldi_nor> ok
[08:16] <DistroJockey> pan23423, ahh, I see what you mean. Yeah, might be easier to copy it to  ~/src/VMWare
[08:17] <pan23423> ok
[08:17] <m1r> snarkster: using livecd ?
[08:17] <snarkster> m1r yup
[08:17] <DistroJockey> pan23423,   ./   = current directory
[08:17] <pan23423> is there a way where i can do it any other way? besides that?
[08:17] <pan23423> current directory is Desktop
[08:17] <pan23423> i downloaded it to desktop
[08:18] <m1r> snarkster: download alternate cd and install from that , then if gnome dont work, try other window manger as openbox, or just go with xubuntu altenratte cd
[08:18] <DistroJockey> pan23423,   tar xzvf ~/Desktop/VMware-server-1.0.6-91891.tar.gz    from   ~/src/VMWare
[08:18] <snarkster> m1r thanx for the info, think ill get more memory. its going to become my mythbox.
[08:19] <dalla> anyone?
[08:19] <Beererde> hi. is there an easy way to install the latest firefox nightly build with apt?
[08:19] <m1r> snarkster: what procesor it got ?
[08:19] <dalla> how do i get emerald to work
[08:19] <snarkster> m1r unsure what exactly it has as I cant run lspci just yet.
[08:20] <dalla> emerald theme
[08:20] <Frosty|Music> anyone know how to set kernel hz?
[08:20] <snarkster> !emerald theme
[08:20] <m1r> snarkster: 500mhz or more ?
[08:20] <snarkster> !compiz
[08:20] <snarkster> m1r yah I belive 1.8 ghx
[08:20] <m1r> snarkster: get 512 ram stick and should be enough for multimedia
[08:20] <snarkster> m1r it did have a version of redhat on it but it was broken
[08:21] <DistroJockey> dalla, you could try running:   emerald --replace
[08:21] <dalla> i did dont do nothing
[08:22] <bullgard4> [GNOME] What is the name of the program which will show the icons of all open programs on the current workspace in the middle of the screen, if you press Alt+Tab?
[08:22] <DistroJockey> dalla, If you using Gnome, try:   metacity --replace
[08:23] <pan23423> answer cd ~/src/VMWare; tar xzvf ~/Desktop/VMware-server-1.0.6-91891.tar.gz
[08:23] <Beererde> hi. is there an easy way to install the latest firefox nightly build with apt?
[08:23] <nickrud> bullgard4 that is part of the window manager, compiz or metacity or whatever
[08:23] <DistroJockey> pan23423, did the job?
[08:24] <dalla> ok now i got some imported how do i switch them
[08:24] <pan23423> yeah
[08:24] <macgyverdgi> ok how do I get adobe flash installed on my ubuntu box and debian box ?
[08:24] <pan23423> ";" separates commands
[08:24] <pan23423> didn't know that
[08:24] <DistroJockey> pan23423, cool :)
[08:24] <jdavie> Hi, I'm having a problem with my USB transfer speed. It will start at around 11M/s, quickly drop to around 4M/s and then slowly drop from there. Any ideas on what could be wrong?
[08:24] <DistroJockey> dalla, some what imported?
[08:25] <nickrud> macgyverdgi sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree for ubuntu, probably same in debian (haven't looked recentlly) , and you should add libflashsupport as well
[08:25] <bullgard4> nickrud: I take it as a subprogram of Metacity. But some subprograms have their own names. I'd like to know this name.
[08:25] <dalla>  emerald them e i have some themes imported how i use them
[08:25] <DistroJockey> dalla, well, your emerald is currently broken, so I guess you don't
[08:25] <nickrud> bullgard4 nope, not a subprogram for metacity. various plugins in compiz give that functionality
[08:25] <dalla> how do u know my emerald b roken
[08:26] <Hiho> Hi everyone, Is it possible to change the system username, like the one to long in with or could I delete the entire one I'm in now and create a new one
[08:26] <DistroJockey> dalla, well, you had to replace it with metacity to see window borders
[08:27] <dalla> how do i fix emerald
[08:27] <DistroJockey> dalla, ok, first try this agin:   emerald --replace
[08:28] <dalla> oh and now i can enable the efects that  \ i had enabled
[08:28] <dalla> that dont work
[08:28] <bullgard4> nickrud: Are you sure that it is a compiz plugin? I do not use Compiz. And GNOME did provide this functionality already before Compiz was borne.
[08:28] <dalla> cus my efects cant be enabled
[08:28] <benGoz> compiz --replace?
[08:28] <benGoz> without the question mark
[08:29] <DistroJockey> dalla, then you need better drivers for your video card
[08:29] <nickrud> bullgard4 metacity and compiz are two different window managers, I was simply mentioning both. metacity is the normal, gnome affiliated window manager, yes
[08:29] <dalla> na thats not it i had it working b4
[08:29] <DistroJockey> dalla, what changed between now and then?
[08:30] <macgyverdgi> ok, now how do I uninstall shockwave flash ?
[08:30] <jdavie> ﻿Hi, I'm having a problem with my USB transfer speed. It will start at around 11M/s, quickly drop to around 4M/s and then slowly drop from there. Any ideas on what could be wrong?
[08:30] <dalla> ok i did compiz and now i can enable efects but no boarders
[08:30] <RaverWild> hello guys. question: sometimes (havent yet got when) i can't play audio files (haavent tried videos) with any player on my latest ubuntu. there is sound - i can play youtube stuff, but no mp3 etc... how to fix this - is there a way to restart the sound? newbie here. restarting the machine fix this.
[08:30] <nickrud> dalla  alt-f2 gtk-window-decorator --replace
[08:30] <dalla> nvm cant
[08:31] <nickrud> macgyverdgi   sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree
[08:31] <dalla> ok i got boarders but cant enable efects
[08:32] <unop> RaverWild, install the w32codecs package from medibuntu
[08:33] <erkanea> hi everyone
[08:34] <dalla> how do i instal laptop vid drivers
[08:35] <ubunubi> When booting, all the boot scripts double echo eveyrthing -- is there a way to fix this?
[08:35] <jdavie> ﻿Hi, I'm having a problem with my USB transfer speed. It will start at around 11M/s, quickly drop to around 4M/s and then slowly drop from there. Any ideas on what could be wrong?
[08:35] <RaverWild> unop,  thanks
[08:36] <Salmus> Hello
[08:36] <dalla> how do i instal laptop vid drivers
[08:36] <Salmus> Hi ! Any brilliant ideea about protecting against syn flood attacks ? I've tried alot of things, no luck
[08:36] <Salmus> Including limiting the time of syn queue
[08:36] <Salmus> my server just hangs
[08:36] <DistroJockey> dalla, more info needed. Like what video chipset it has or atleast the laptop model
[08:37] <ubunubi> salmus:: it's normally the job of your firewall to decent the flood and initiate filtering then
[08:37] <ubunubi> salmus:: detect*
[08:37] <dalla> Extensa 5620-6830
[08:37] <Salmus> ubunubi - I'm using hand make firewall (bash script) any ideeas ?
[08:37] <DistroJockey> ubunubi, what do you mean by double echo?
[08:37] <Salmus> Syn floods can also be spoofed ... my firewall can't do much things
[08:38] <ubunubi> Distrojockey:: Starting Samba Deamons...Starting Samba Daemons...[OK] ...Starting xinted     Starting xinetd   [OK]
[08:38] <ubunubi> DistroJockey: for everything
[08:39] <DistroJockey> ubunubi, ohh, odd
[08:39] <unop> Salmus, what does your "hand-made firewall" actually do?
[08:39] <ubunubi> distrojockey:: it first started when ubuntu notifier suggested i upgrade my kernel...then it bugged me enough i reloaded a backup i had, and haven't reupgraded....now it's started again after updating my initramfs
[08:39] <Salmus> Filtering ports
[08:40] <dalla> Extensa 5620-6830
[08:40] <negge^> ubunubi: you mean you get double lines for everything?
[08:40] <ubunubi> ﻿salmus: sorry that isn't my area of expertise :) i'm not sure what the proprietary method hardware firewalls use to "determine" when there is an attempt DDoS attack
[08:40] <DistroJockey> dalla, ok, looks like you have a  Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
[08:40] <ubunubi> rnegge^:: yes
[08:40] <Schizoid-SPD> i'm a bit concerned about the speed i get with firewire 400, it's only 22.8 MB/sec
[08:40] <unop> Salmus, yes, that's already implied - it's the job of a firewall to do that -- but what exactly is the script doing?
[08:40] <negge^> ubunubi: I have the same problem on my Eee, would like a solution myself
[08:40] <komputer13> Romeo
[08:41] <DistroJockey> ubunubi, negge^ : not familiar with that issue sorry
[08:41] <ubunubi> negge^:: i've narrowed it down the initramfs being built..but not sure what's causing it
[08:41] <invictus> can I ask a quick question regarding Compiz?
[08:41] <negge^> ubunubi: okay. Are you on Hardy?
[08:41] <dalla> ya
[08:41] <ubunubi> negge^::yes
[08:41] <negge^> ubunubi: okay I'm on gutsy so it must be an old problem
[08:41] <negge^> never bothered me that much though
[08:42] <ubunubi> negge^::i'm just worried that it could imply something else is wrong or not running efficiently
[08:42] <ubunubi> negge^:: normally a sign when things aren't doing what they're supposed to :P
[08:42] <DistroJockey> dalla, this thread may be worth a look:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3451249
[08:42] <invictus> Yes/no?
[08:43] <DistroJockey> invictus, sure, as long as it's Ubuntu related :)
[08:43] <macgyverdgi> nickrud: yeah the apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree gave me the file install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz, but I cant get any where with it
[08:44] <unop> ubunubi, does this happen when you manually stop/start a service too?? i.e.  sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[08:44] <invictus> oh it is, i actually just got 8.04 and installed the compiz manager... well the issue is that i can't get "desktop cube" to work... every other plugin seems to be working just fine.
[08:44] <invictus> any suggestions?
[08:44] <ubunubi> unop: no, only when booting
[08:44] <ubunubi> unop: and it's everything loaded while the splash screen is up (after hardware detection)...i just used samba and xinetd as examples
[08:45] <unop> macgyverdgi, that command should have extracted the tarball and installed it for you
[08:45] <DistroJockey> invictus, what is the issue with the cude?
[08:45] <DistroJockey> cube^
[08:45] <invictus> it won't initiate
[08:45] <invictus> i have the triggers set up just right
[08:45] <invictus> so it's not the matter of me not pressing the right buttons... and every other plugin works too... so having hard time pin pointing the issue here
[08:46] <macgyverdgi> nickrud: nope, because I have shockwave flash, witch I want to delete
[08:46] <DistroJockey> !ops BamBoo spam PM's for ASL
[08:46] <macgyverdgi> lol
[08:47] <unop> ubunubi, hmm, well I would try this.  sudo aptitude install -f && sudo aptitude reinstall initscripts
[08:47] <ubunubi> unop:: sure that won't bork my system?
[08:48] <unop> ubunubi, i'm sure it will, even i wouldn't try that :)
[08:48] <ubunubi> unop:: what file determines that processes are called during that portion of the boot process?
[08:49] <unop> ubunubi, process 1  aka  init
[08:49] <ubunubi> unop:: i looked in /etc/init.d and there are no duplicates
[08:49] <ubunubi> unop:: where is the init script located
[08:50] <macgyverdgi> nickrud: u still there ?
[08:50] <unop> ubunubi, my guess is that the  log_progress_msg() function in the initscripts is somehow being called twice for each init script -not sure why (and where)
[08:51] <unop> ubunubi, this command should tell you.  which init
[08:51] <ubunubi> unop: says /sbin/init..but cat'ing that file produces garbage. must not be a text file :PP
[08:52] <unop> heh, indeed
[08:52] <aolaus> hi, I restart ubuntu quite often
[08:52] <aolaus> is there any way to
[08:52] <aolaus> have a configuration file
[08:52] <jbroome> !enter > aolaus
[08:52] <unop> !enter | aolaus
[08:52] <jbroome> too slow!
[08:52] <aolaus> that saves currently open files
[08:53] <ubunubi> brb
[08:53] <aolaus> so I don't have to hunt for all of them?
[08:53] <aolaus> I appreciate the guidance
[08:53] <aolaus> I don't come in here that often
[08:53] <unop> aolaus, stop doing that
[08:53] <joy> 뭡니?
[08:53] <jbroome> !jp | joy
[08:54] <joy> 이챈은자동챈
[08:54] <unop> aolaus, close down all open applications - and you shouldn't have to worry about open files
[08:54] <jbroome> !kr | joy
[08:54] <joy> audojoin..
[08:54] <joy> auto
[08:54] <unop> !ko | joy
[08:55] <jbroome> ahh, ko.
[08:55] <aolaus> I meant to ask, how to save the state of my taskbar
[08:55] <aolaus> so I don't have to go and open all those files again
[08:56] <DistroJockey> aolaus, goto  System - Preferences - Sessions  and then Session Options
[08:57] <DistroJockey> aolaus, and either tick the box for or click the button or both
[08:58] <ubunubi> the double echo was fixed by setting CONCURRENCY=none in  /etc/init.d/rc
[08:58] <DistroJockey> ubunubi, ahh, the default ;)
[08:58] <aolaus> ok, does that work for only applications or will it automatically open documents as well
[08:59] <DistroJockey> aolaus, not too sure, never used it
[08:59] <ubunubi> distrojockey:: i've used concurrency=shell for this kernel and all others for months without the double echo ;P only creating a new initramfs while it is set causes the issue
[09:00] <aolaus> can I like
[09:00] <ubunubi> either through a kernel upgrade or other updating
[09:00] <aolaus> write a shell script or something
[09:00] <aolaus> to do what I want?
[09:00] <DistroJockey> ubunubi, ahh, fair enough, minor bug I guess, might be worth reporting if you can replicate it easily
[09:00] <Viktoras> howdy guys :)
[09:01] <ubunubi> distrojockey:: yeah this is the third time it's begun (different reason, same process invoked). last time i restored from a backup since i wasn't sure what caused it but these 2 times pretty much confirms it for me
[09:01] <obf213> hello, for some reason i am missing the frostwire package is this normal behavior? was it removed from repositories?
[09:01] <DistroJockey> aolaus, sure
[09:01] <DistroJockey> ubunubi, *nods*
[09:01] <Josdell> Hi, has anyone here done a pendrivelinux install? I need to ask some questions, you also need to have used it on different computers with different graphics cards and wireless cards
[09:01] <Viktoras> hi :]
[09:02] <Viktoras> anyone knows if keyboard layouts are fixed in GNOME 2.22.2?
[09:02] <DistroJockey> obf213, not in my repo's and I have all ticked
[09:02] <arlbee> How do I open an .rpm file in Ubuntu 7.10
[09:02] <obf213> DistroJockey, did they provide some kind of replacement?
[09:03] <DistroJockey> Josdell, yes, I have Hardy 8.04 on my 1GB flash drive
[09:03] <DistroJockey> obf213, transmission maybe?
[09:03] <Kartagis> arlbee: you convert it to .deb using alien and dpkg -i package
[09:03] <kholerabbi> 8.04.1 out yet?
[09:03] <Josdell> DistroJockey: have you used it on different computers?
[09:03] <ubunubi> am kinda scared to accept the 2.6.24-19 update. last time it made my boot process hang with an fglrx error :(
[09:03] <DistroJockey> Josdell, a couple, yes
[09:03] <aolaus> nah too much trouble for my purposes
[09:03] <aolaus> but thanks anyway
[09:04] <Kartagis> kholerabbi: no
[09:04] <DistroJockey> aolaus, *nods* :)
[09:04] <aolaus> actually no, it might work
[09:04] <aolaus> have you done it before?
[09:04] <Josdell> DistroJockey: Did it accept all the new hardware quick and fine after every use?
[09:04] <c0nfl|ct>  ora bom dia
[09:04] <kholerabbi> kartagis: ah..
[09:04] <kholerabbi> thanks
[09:04] <DistroJockey> Josdell, yep
[09:04] <Josdell> DistroJockey: Thanks for the info, it is very useful
[09:05] <DistroJockey> Josdell, no problem. I used  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/08/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-via-the-live-cd/
[09:05] <Josdell> DistroJockey: Okay, Thank you bye
[09:05] <Beererde> does someone know why xfs_fsr is missing in my ubuntu?
[09:05] <DistroJockey> Josdell, you're welcome, later
[09:06] <DistroJockey> aolaus, if you were asking me if I have made a script to open documents at startup, the answer is no
[09:07] <DistroJockey> aolaus, but you could have an executable .sh file that has a few lines like  gedit ~/Documents/ somedocument.txt  I guess
[09:08] <aolaus> that's what I'm doing right now
[09:08] <DistroJockey> aolaus, :)
[09:09] <woody86> hey what's up everyone??
[09:10] <DistroJockey> woody86, eth0
[09:10] <woody86> DistroJockey: lol, you're connection's up?
[09:10] <DistroJockey> woody86, aye ;)
[09:11] <bartonello> hello. Could you help how to set umask for one daemon only?
[09:11] <woody86> DistroJockey: well that's always a good sign
[09:11] <DistroJockey> woody86, yep :)
[09:13] <ShaqFu2Fu> can anybody help me 'make' a 32 bit program on 64 bit hardy without getting a 'stubs-32.h no such file or directory error?'
[09:13] <Beererde> does someone know why xfs_fsr is missing in my ubuntu?
[09:13] <DistroJockey> bartonello, umask is for user creation of files and folders only I believe
[09:14] <spoonwizard> hello, I have a problem setting up DNS server, I have done everything the How to has told me to do but when I tell another computer on my network to use my DNS server as his DNS server then it wont work. when I run the dig cbsc.co.za command I see my status is NOERROR.
[09:14] <DistroJockey> spoonwizard, firewall issue maybe?
[09:15] <spoonwizard> that could be but I don't knoe how to tell iptables to let DNS pass... iptables -A -p dns -j ACCEPT?
[09:16] <DistroJockey> spoonwizard, not to sure myself. Maybe look at  ufw  instead
[09:16] <spoonwizard> But if I get that NOERROR thing in my dig command... Does it mean that my DNS is working?
[09:16] <vaxire> Voila
[09:17] <DistroJockey> spoonwizard, firewall is not enabled in Ubuntu by default though, but there are no listenening ports by default either (that's my understanding)
[09:18] <spoonwizard> Then it can't be the firewall since I have not enabled it yet...
[09:18] <vaxire> Je crois que je ne sais pas coller dans le /home car ce n'est qu'un chemin
[09:18] <DistroJockey> spoonwizard, if dig tests from outside, then, yeah, I guess it means it's working
[09:18] <spoonwizard> can you run a dig on cbsc.co.za?
[09:18] <unop> !fr | vaxire
[09:19] <unop> cbsc.co.za.		86400	IN	A	196.211.153.123
[09:19] <unop> spoonwizard, ^^
[09:19] <vaxire> oups
[09:19] <DistroJockey> spoonwizard, yep, looks happy see IP's and names
[09:19] <spoonwizard> yeah, thats what I get aswell... so then its working, but the only problem is now that I have not told my DNS server to use 196.211.153.123...
[09:20] <mitloehn> hello! I just installed another version of ubuntu on a different partition, and now the luks header on my second disk seems to be marked as swap space, and I cannot unlock the luks device anymore. Anyone seen this problem?
[09:21] <spoonwizard> wait!! the outside line is used and then it NAT it to the inside ip of the previous DNS server, now I feel stupid!!!
[09:21] <Snowball> hi
[09:22] <Snowball> I am searching for a nativly english speaking person
[09:22] <spoonwizard> I have to give my new DNS server the same inside IP as the old one or I have to change the NAT path.
[09:22] <DistroJockey> spoonwizard, heh, you know more about that stuff than me if that makes you feel better :)
[09:22] <unop> Snowball, what for?
[09:23] <spoonwizard> lol, no, I am still a newbie with linux...
[09:23] <spoonwizard> g2g cheers people...
[09:23] <DistroJockey> spoonwizard, later :)
[09:23] <Snowball> unop, I need to write a text message to a girl and I want to get rid of wrong grammer
[09:23] <woody86> later spoonwizard
[09:23] <bartonello> ﻿DistroJockey, and what should I do if I want to set umask only for one daemon? May be init-scripts?
[09:24] <unop> Snowball, please join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask the people there - this channel is for ubuntu support only
[09:24] <DistroJockey> bartonello, I'm not really sure. What is the end result you require?
[09:24] <Snowball> ok unop - joined there =)
[09:24] <macpo3> how do I update repositories from the command line to remove an warning message like "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[09:24] <macpo3> "
[09:25] <keegan> hi is there a program on ubuntu like broadcam , that streams live to a an inbuilt webserver
[09:25] <fiction> who a question about fixing my very crashy firefox 3 be appropriate here or better suited to the firefox channel?
[09:25] <unop> macpo3, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out that line
[09:25] <unop> macpo3, sudo $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:26] <bartonello> ﻿DistroJockey, I want my daemon (netams) to create new files and folders with special permissions
[09:27] <DistroJockey> bartonello, ahh, no idea about that sorry. But with that info someone else may have an idea :)
[09:27] <unop> fiction, depends - does firefox crash when you do something specific? or is it random?
[09:27] <fiction> completely random
[09:27] <unop> bartonello, declare umask at the top of your script
[09:27] <fiction> well it appears so
[09:28] <unop> fiction, what version of firefox3 ?
[09:28] <ShaqFu2Fu> Hi, does anybody know how to 'make' a 32 bit program on 64 bit hardy without getting a 'stubs-32.h no such file or directory error?' Is that caused by a missing library?
[09:28] <bartonello> ﻿DistroJockey, thanks anyway)
[09:28] <DistroJockey> bartonello, no problem
[09:29] <fiction> about firefox says just 3.0
[09:29] <ShaqFu2Fu> I've spent the last 6 hours trying to get Martian to run so I can use an Agere winmodem, no joy yet.
[09:29] <unop> ShaqFu2Fu, install the build-essential package
[09:29] <ShaqFu2Fu> oh yeah, I install that from the DVD
[09:29] <unop> bartonello, did you see what i said to you?
[09:29] <ShaqFu2Fu> does that usually fix it, should I remove it and try again?
[09:30] <keegan> hi is there a program on ubuntu like broadcam , that streams live to a an inbuilt webserver
[09:30] <unop> ShaqFu2Fu, well, it doesn't appear to have been installed properly -- its the package that has that particular .h file
[09:30] <ShaqFu2Fu> oh great, thanks for the help! I'll give it another try now.
[09:31] <ubutom> Okaay, I may be nitpicking, but I just played nexuiz and the popup of update manager said new actualizations availabe and I thought: yeah, finally a pidgin update. But there is none... will we have a new version of libpurple this weekend or do I have to use miranda wirh wine until the update finally shows up?
[09:31] <ozcu> Slm
[09:32] <r3dluv> please help me
[09:32] <r3dluv> i'm stuck with configuring mail server
[09:32] <ozcu> Slm
[09:32] <DistroJockey> keegan, maybe videolan ?
[09:32] <ripps> Can anybody here give me some bash scripting advice, or a channel where I can get it.
[09:32] <unop> ripps, whats the question?
[09:33] <keegan> hmm thanks DistroJockey
[09:33] <DistroJockey> keegan, not sure if it will do the job, but it sounds good for streaming
[09:33] <ripps> unop: I'm trying to write a script that'll detect when my notification area is loaded before it will launch pidgin
[09:33] <r3dluv> SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME
[09:34] <jussi01> !caps | r3dluv
[09:34] <bartonello> ﻿unop, I have done it just now. My init-script sets umask, do some work and finally starts the daemon. Permissions are changed, but strange way. I set umask 002, daemon creates files with 664 permission (as i want), but directories with 711 O_o. What I`ve missed? Sorry for my English.
[09:34] <DistroJockey> r3dluv, no need to shout. State the exact problem you are having
[09:34] <LSD|Ninja> pidgin plays funny buggers with the notification area now?
[09:35] <Fredikon> My totem player is stuck in fullscreen..
[09:36] <r3dluv> ok i'm sorry
[09:36] <r3dluv> here is my problem
[09:36] <DistroJockey> Fredikon, no Leave Fullscreen in the top right corner when you move the mouse?
[09:36] <Fredikon> Tried that, it dosen't work
[09:36] <r3dluv> i already have configure my postfix, tpop3d, and imap
[09:36] <unop> ripps,  I'm not sure what the name of the process of the notification-area thingy is -- use ps aux | grep notification  to find out.  but..
[09:37] <unop> ripps, this should do you.    while ! pidof notification-area-daemon; do sleep 1; done ; pidgin &
[09:37] <anipy> i would like to test if ubuntu 8.04 would work with our autoloader tape-drive (tandberg storageloader lto3 1u via lvd-scsi connected). the current installation seems not to recognize the drive. any idea where to start trouble-shooting? hardware-issue is unlikely
[09:37] <r3dluv> but, when i'm trying with squirrelmail, i can't login
[09:37] <r3dluv> squirrelmail said, that the connection was droped by imap server
[09:37] <DistroJockey> Fredikon, double click on the video?
[09:37] <unop> bartonello, how exactly are you creating your files or directories there?
[09:37] <polygon89> hello, every time i suspend, and i resume, it resumes fine but then after a while it freezes, i checked my logs and im getting this: http://pastebin.com/m22713fb3 , what should i report this under?
[09:38] <ripps> unop: there is no notification-area-daemon in 8.04
[09:39] <blame> anything in particular that has to be done in order to upgrade ubuntu from 8,04 to 8,04,1 ?
[09:39] <unop> ripps, i used it as an example - find out what the process is actually called
[09:39] <LSD|Ninja> blame: the update manager should prompt you, it should be fairly painless
[09:39] <ripps> unop: I can't figure out which one it is
[09:39] <polygon89> blame, just run update manager, its nothing major. just regular updates
[09:39] <LSD|Ninja> ripps: what exactly is hte problem you're trying to script around?
[09:39] <unop> ripps,   ps aux | grep -i notification   # how many results do you get returned?
[09:39] <Bogaurd> I'm trying to assemble a raid5 array with mdadm that I've brought over from another system - mdadm won't assemble it because it wasnt built for this host, even when i use the --auto-update-homehost flag... any ideas?
[09:40] <bartonello> ﻿unop, I don`t know, it`s daemon work)
[09:40] <blame> it downloaded some stuff today -- it didn't prompt me for an "upgrade"
[09:40] <polygon89> blame, its not a dist upgrade, its just regular updates. if you  install all available updates then the version number just changes
[09:40] <ripps> unop: nothing
[09:41] <Mr_SpOOn> in which file is the PATH variable set?
[09:41] <unop> bartonello, my guess is that whatever process that is creating directories is requesting that new directories be opened with 711 permissions -- you might like to clarify this with the guys in #bash
[09:42] <r3dluv> anyone who can help me to solve the problem about configuring mail server, please pm with me. thanks
[09:42] <unop> ripps, are you writing a startup script?
[09:42] <blame> polygon89: well after today's updates it does show "DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.04.1" so I gues you're right
[09:43] <Bubulle> r3dluv, ok engage pd with me, no promess though
[09:43] <ripps> unop: pidgin always starts up before the notification area,a nd it fails to started in the system tray. But if it's started after the system tray is loaded, it will start directly as a tray icon.
[09:44] <bartonello> ﻿unop, thanks, i`ll try #bash
[09:44] <ng0L> Hi, Why my ubuntu always cut the connection off whenever i use web browser?
[09:44] <Fredrikon> what browser do you use?
[09:44] <unop> ripps, if it is a startup script you are writing - then this ought to work.  while ! pidof gnome-panel; do sleep 1; done ;  sleep 5 && pidgin &
[09:44] <ng0L> Fredrikon:  firefox
[09:45] <ng0L> Fredrikon: It doesnt matter what browser i use, they're all the same.
[09:45] <armon_> does anyone know how to solve  :     _XGetXCBBuffer: Assertion `((int) ((xcb_req) - (dpy->request)) >= 0)' failed.
[09:45] <unop> ripps, just make sure you disable pidgin from automatically starting up already - by some other means - otherwise you will have two instances of pidgin starting up
[09:45] <ng0L> Fredrikon: I think it is not about sth wrong with browser, but the ubuntu
[09:45] <ng0L> I
[09:45] <Fredrikon> NgOl: yeah, pro b since you can connect with irc
[09:46] <unop> armon_, where do you see this message?
[09:46] <ng0L> Fredrikon: why?
[09:46] <ripps> unop: I plan on replacing it with the script.
[09:46] <armon_> unop, when i am running a GTK+ program  I wrote
[09:47] <unop> ripps, right, that ought to do then
[09:47] <ripps> unop: thanks, I'll check to see if this works with another program I can stop then start to see if it works.
[09:47] <unop> armon_, you should /join #gtk
[09:48] <armon_> unop, there's not many people there~
[09:49] <ripps> unop: it worked with the mixer_applet2. I'll check to see if it works with gnome-panel after reboot.
[09:50] <DistroJockey> armon_, you could try:  http://www.gtkforums.com/
[09:50] <unop> armon_, does the number of people in a channel dictate whether of not you will get the right help?  obviously not, that is the right channel to ask your question - people in here are not developers
[09:50] <armon_> unop, there's not many people there~
[09:50] <armon_> unop, OK~thanks
[09:50] <usr13> Where do we find recent updates?
[09:51] <usr13> What packages were recently updated?
[09:51] <unop> armon_, try gtk+ too
[09:51] <unop> armon_,  #gtk+
[09:51] <armon_> ok
[09:52] <narg> Is there a way to have failed login attempts (over ssh) emailed to an external account?
[09:52] <DistroJockey> usr13, I use the  File - History  menu in Synaptic
[09:52] <usr13> I think I found it:  /var/log/dpkg.log.1
[09:53] <unop> EDocToor, no PMs please -- depends on the type of development
[09:54] <usr13> Maybe not.
[09:54] <usr13> That does not seem to contain current information.
[09:55] <beyta> guys, i use acer laptop.. my laptop have a bluetooth hardware... how to configure the hardware so i can use my blutooth..
[09:55] <pan23423> ls
[09:55] <pan23423> sorry
[09:55] <DistroJockey> usr13, log.1 is the log before the last .log
[09:56] <usr13> DistroJockey: But  2008-06-01 07:35 /var/log/dpkg.log is empty
[09:56] <EDocToor> NO PM's for you ,,, or NO PM's for this channel?
[09:56] <unop> !pm | EDocToor
[09:57] <DistroJockey> usr13, not sure on when the logs get started. May be at boot ?
[09:57] <EDocToor> Oh ,,, JUST you
[09:57] <dr_Willis> many people auto block/ignore pms also.
[09:57] <usr13> DistroJockey: I just did  apt-get update   but did not update anything.
[09:57] <Migraine> lolz
[09:57] <Viktoras> reboot
[09:58] <morbyte> i cant hear flash sound anymore :/ in opera 9.5 and firefox 3.0;  ubuntu hardy, 32bit, adobe flash nonfree...
[09:58] <ripps> unop: gnome-panel was too soon. I think i'll have it start up with the volume mixer. It seems to be one of the last programs to load
[09:58] <Migraine> usr13 what you just did was FUCKING stupid. just unload the kernel module
[09:58] <usr13> Not sure if the user is doing them or not.  (She might be, but I am trying to help her keep it up to date - she is very busy.)
[09:58] <Migraine> in fact, you are stupid
[09:58] <unop> EDocToor, always ask before you PM -- i guess that means it applies to the entire channel
[09:58] <DistroJockey> usr13, sudo apt-get update  = update's the current lists,  sudo apt-get upgrade  (after an update) get's new stuff
[09:58] <unop> !language | Migraine
[09:58] <dr_Willis> !ohmy
[09:58] <usr13> Migraine: What?
[09:59] <Migraine> i love when your mother start telling the history of your birth with "ooops"
[09:59] <EDocToor> Unop,,, np
[09:59] <unop> Migraine, easy - no hostility needed
[09:59] <Migraine> okok
[10:00] <EDocToor> Migraine,, it was funny though
[10:00] <usr13> DistroJockey: But   sudo apt-get upgrade   will do a distributon upgrade.  Right?
[10:00] <usr13> DistroJockey: Not sure if I want to do that yet.
[10:00] <DistroJockey> usr13, nope, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does that
[10:00] <unop> usr13, no, you need sudo do_release_upgrade
[10:00] <usr13> DistroJockey: Oh. Ok.
[10:01] <unop> usr13, it's better to  use do_release_upgrade than apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:01] <Kartagis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4901641 <--- I downloaded a printer driver from mentioned page in this page, however printer's papersize settings are messed up when i send a document. any ideas why?
[10:01] <DistroJockey> unop, is my statement correct. Ahh, I see that mesage
[10:01] <gordonjcp> usr13: "upgrade" upgrades the packages to the newest versions from the repos, "dist-upgrade" does the same but handles dependencies properly
[10:02] <gordonjcp> usr13: "dist-upgrade" is nearly always what you want
[10:02] <usr13> so do_release_upgrade and dist-upgrade
[10:02] <usr13> are not the same?
[10:02] <unop> DistroJockey, well, it is correct in the debian world -- perhaps not so much in ubuntu
[10:03] <unop> usr13, they are not the same thing, but they achieve the same thing - just differently
[10:03] <microwaver> any samba users here?
[10:03] <DistroJockey> unop, ahh.
[10:03] <DistroJockey> microwaver, probably
[10:03] <unop> !upgrade | usr13, DistroJockey
[10:04] <DistroJockey> unop, cheers
[10:04] <Garibaldi_nor> Hi folks! Yesterday I installed Xubuntu 8.0.4. Played around and installed xmms, k3b etc without help! Have also made firefox to play flash things, but still got one more thing to do. Java. Have googled around and tried different things to get this working, but no. Have anyone idea what to do ?
[10:04] <microwaver> DistroJockey, got some beginners questions. (lol you seem to be everywhere)
[10:04] <Garibaldi_nor> Greetings from Norway ;)
[10:04] <DistroJockey> unop, I don't upgrade though :)
[10:04] <gordonjcp> !java | Garibaldi_nor
[10:04] <usr13> Sorry, what I ment to say is:  apt-get upgrade  and apt-get do_release_upgrade  are not the same?  Right?
[10:05] <unop> DistroJockey, let me guess - you always do a fresh install?
[10:05] <DistroJockey> microwaver, heh, ask away :)
[10:05] <gordonjcp> usr13: no
[10:05] <DistroJockey> unop, yep
[10:05] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  i normally just install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package and it sets up most all that stuff. :) it may be 'xubuntu-restricted-extras' in your case
[10:05] <unop> usr13, no ,   apt-get do_release_upgrade  is not even valid
[10:05] <usr13> do_release_upgrade is better option?
[10:05] <Kartagis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4901641 <--- I downloaded a printer driver from mentioned page in this page, however printer's papersize settings are messed up when i send a document. any ideas why?
[10:05] <kiosk> a
[10:05] <unop> usr13, just do this.   sudo do_release_upgrade
[10:06] <usr13> unop: O
[10:06] <kiosk> ...
[10:06] <Buyydee> After installing openssh_server, do I need to configure it? I want a friend to be able to remotely access some specific folders on my computer, is ssh the best way? I could find a very detailed tutorial how to use ssh clients in the ubuntu wiki, but not about the server...
[10:06] <microwaver> DistroJockey, http://pastebin.com/m2408292c is one of my shares, the other person wants to access it (username on his pc = god assassin but he always gets access denied)
[10:06] <usr13> sudo: do_release_upgrade: command not found
[10:07] <DistroJockey> microwaver, bad username for a start (it has a space in it)
[10:07] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis: Installed xubuntu-restricted-extras, but no luck. Anymore ideas ?
[10:07] <ubunubi> microwaver::i'd start by not using user names with spaces, escape characters, or special ascii codes. they'll only complicate matters
[10:07] <unop> Buyydee, the only configuration you probably need is to allow the ssh server to be accessible from the internet
[10:07] <jhaig> Sorry if this question has been asked already a dozen times.  Will Hardy automatically update to 8.04.1 LTS, which was released today?
[10:07] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  read/follow the !java factoid i guess
[10:07] <usr13> I guess I'll go with  sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:07] <usr13> for now...
[10:07] <microwaver> ubunubi, DistroJockey thought about that, so the fastest solution is letting him make a user on HIS pc without a space?
[10:08] <DistroJockey> microwaver, yep, I think so
[10:08] <Buyydee> unop: Well, my port 21 for ssh is open, is there anything else that has to be done?
[10:08] <unop> usr13, see the upgrade notes that ubottu told you about
[10:08] <Garibaldi_nor> !java
[10:08] <ubunubi> microwaver:: preferably. did you also set him up a samba account/password on your machine?
[10:08] <interactive> how to start ubuntu without gdm, but with some app instead?
[10:09] <usr13> It says:  "The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic openssh-client openssh-server ssl-cert"
[10:09] <usr13> Is that anything to be concerned about?
[10:09] <ubunubi> microwaver:: actually, dont have him change this windows account. it could lead to him being locked out of My Documents Folder
[10:09] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis: Ok thanks, installing sun-java6-jre now from the Multiverse repository
[10:09] <dr_Willis> interactive,  which other app? 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' to change  *dm managers
[10:09] <DistroJockey> usr1
[10:09] <DistroJockey> oops
[10:09] <unop> Buyydee, you mean 22 not 21 righr?
[10:09] <unop> right*
[10:09] <Appiah> I'm experimenting with Terminal Server , I'd like to disable all users in a certain group to run "xterm" . Is there a easy way to do this?
[10:09] <unop> Buyydee, that should be it
[10:09] <interactive> dr_Willis: i hust want to start one app instead of any window manager
[10:09] <microwaver> ubunubi, nope did not yet do that. but I wanted him to make a NEW useer, instead of changing his one now
[10:09] <DistroJockey> usr13, I'd wait a bit before upgrading and try again later
[10:09] <interactive> j*
[10:10] <Buyydee> unop: It's been quite some time since my last port scan, but I think it was 21...
[10:10] <dr_Willis> interactive,  you can easially create a 'Whatever.desktop' file that launches a specific app when you login, instead of gnome or kde or whatever.
[10:10] <unop> Buyydee, 21 is telnet not ssh -- you need port 22 open
[10:10] <ubunubi> microwaver:: did you sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME  and create him a username with no spaces?
[10:11] <usr13> !upgrade
[10:11] <dr_Willis> interactive,  that dosent have a lot to do with 'starting without gdm'   You COULD not use gdm, and edit/make a .xinitrc that launches what you want  and use 'startx' also from the console
[10:11] <Buyydee> unop: 22 isn't open, I just checked. Sorry. How would I change this?
[10:11] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis: Hmmm.. no luck on the instrucions you gave me.. Last time (1year ago) I also had problems with java. But don't remember how... =/
[10:12] <unop> Buyydee, it's open if the sshd is running -- but you probably need to setup port-forwarding for port 22 on your router/firewall
[10:12] <microwaver> ubunubi, Failed to modify password entry for user vzycks
[10:12] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  Its always been a simple apt-get install WHATEVER for me.. I cant even rember the last time i had to worry about java
[10:12] <microwaver> ubunubi, do I need to make the user with exact the same name as on HIS apparatus
[10:12] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis: Ok, but thanks anyway =)
[10:12] <ubunubi> microwaver:: no, not this way
[10:12] <Buyydee> Garibaldi_nor: First off I would disable compiz, there's always problems with Java. Then go trouble-shooting :)
[10:12] <interactive> dr_Willis: ok, here's the problem: i'm configuring a kiosk that will be accessed publicly and i need to prevent users from doing crazy things when (hopefully not) flash app crashes
[10:13] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  you may want to see what 'java --version' or 'java -version' says. and it may be a browser issue.
[10:13] <interactive> they must use only the flash app
[10:13] <Buyydee> unop: I'm in my university's network, I guess that won't work...
[10:13] <Garibaldi_nor> Buyydee: I don't have compiz
[10:13] <DistroJockey> usr13, if you after a way for it to do auto updates at a certain frequency, you can look in  System - Administration - Software Sources  in the  Updates tab
[10:13] <ubunubi> microwaver:: do:: sudo smbpasswd -a smbusername
[10:13] <usr13> DistroJockey: Are you talking about dist-upgrade? or.... just package upgrades?
[10:13] <Buyydee> Garibaldi_nor: Are you sure? It's enabled in ubuntu by default
[10:13] <DistroJockey> usr13, just package
[10:13] <dr_Willis> interactive,  you can set up gdm to auto login, as a specific user, and restart if X crashes. I think theres even some way to make it reset after so long.  Theres also a Firefox Kiosk plugin or 2.
[10:13] <Garibaldi_nor> stian@stian-laptop:~/Desktop$ java -version
[10:13] <Garibaldi_nor> java version "1.6.0"
[10:13] <Garibaldi_nor> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09)
[10:14] <usr13> DistroJockey: I'm doing this via ssh.
[10:14] <Garibaldi_nor> OpenJDK Client VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode, sharing
[10:14] <microwaver> i did but he gave error Failed to modify password entry for user vzycks
[10:14] <DistroJockey> usr13, ohh :(
[10:14] <microwaver> ubunubi, probably bercause I did not create the user :p?
[10:14] <interactive> dr_Willis: uhm, i'll check it out
[10:14] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  looks like you got a java installed. whats not working with it.
[10:14] <usr13> I guess I'll do apt-get upgrade for now.
[10:14] <ubunubi> microwaver::check your pm
[10:15] <Buyydee> unop: How do I get my sshd running? The command isn't enough. Is there any tutorial you know of? I've never used this before...
[10:15] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis: Yes, java is installed, but when I try to log me in on my bank that needs java, it don't find any java installed on my machine..
[10:15] <usr13> What I'm afraid of is that I don't know if a reboot is needed.
[10:16] <ubunubi> usr13:: if it needs a reboot it will prompt you
[10:16] <unop> Buyydee, can you ssh to yourself?   ssh localhost
[10:16] <noobuntu> I installed ubuntu but I have no sound... why is that? It's a normal onboard soundcard of a notebook
[10:16] <usr13> I don't know what state it is in.  Was wanting to look at recent updates, but,   ok, goot
[10:16] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis: https://nettbank.fokus.no/html/index.html?site=FONB&secsystem=ND
[10:16] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  Now at least you have  the actual question. :) heh.
[10:17] <Buyydee> unop: ssh localhost gave me a blinking cursor... nothing happened
[10:17] <usr13> noobuntu: What sound card do you have?
[10:17] <shervin> noobuntu: I had the same problem once, and I found out that there was a silence button on the notebook it self that made the sound mute. When I pushed this button the magic happened
[10:17] <noobuntu> i dont know exatcly ... i try to find out
[10:17] <unop> Buyydee, did you install the openssh-server package??
[10:17] <Buyydee> unop: yes
[10:17] <usr13> noobuntu: Have you done updates yet?
[10:17] <microwaver> ubunubi, check PM
[10:18] <noobuntu> yes all the updates
[10:18] <usr13> noobuntu: Ok, very good.
[10:18] <unop> Buyydee, try this command and try connecting again.   sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[10:18] <DistroJockey> usr13, well, I got openoffice and kernel updates just over 2 hours ago, but the kernel was the same and no reboot was suggested
[10:18] <Guest39360> Uh, hi. I have a quick question. I have an AMD64 processor, and I'm wondering, can I partition out a copy of the 32 bit release and use it for things such as WINE and NTFS reading/writing?
[10:18] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  seems to have same issue here.. and i do have java working on othe rsites
[10:18] <usr13> noobuntu: To find out what sound card chip you have, do lspci
[10:18] <unop> Buyydee, err.   sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[10:18] <kerin> I'm trying to set up RSA authorization for my home server's SSHD (running fluxbuntu, which is i believe gutsy-based.)    I have followed the directions here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AdvancedOpenSSH) to the best of my ability and when I try to connect it still asks me for my password, not my passphrase.  what do i do?
[10:18] <usr13> DistroJockey: Very good. Tnx
[10:19] <DistroJockey> usr13, no problem, you're welcome
[10:19] <Buyydee> unop:  * Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd                           [ OK ]
[10:19] <Oli``> Something bad is happening to my computer - IO performance is awful and every so often, things wont load and currently running apps will stall then crash. Restarting X when it's like that will cause it to stall indefinitely. Hard rebooting fixes it but that's not really a solution =\
[10:19] <unop> Guest39360, depends on which particular directories you want to copy -- things in your home folder ought to be ok, certain configuration files yes but the rest no
[10:19] <unop> Buyydee, ssh localhost
[10:20] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis: Ok, cause I think that the website I sent you needs the latest Java thing. I don't know. But on my other Windows computer it is working fine .. =/
[10:20] <Buyydee> unop: ssh: loccalhost: Name or service not known
[10:20] <Buyydee> unop: nvm :D
[10:20] <Guest39360> Unop: huh?
[10:20] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  thats possible. theres several versions/variations of java out for linux.
[10:20] <unop> Buyydee, watch your fingers
[10:20] <Buyydee> unop: yes, just realised. now blinking cursor again
[10:20] <unop> Guest39360, ahh nvm - i misread
[10:21] <unop> !chroot | Guest39360
[10:21] <icqnumber> forgot the name of the virtual key board, xvkb?
[10:21] <Daremonai> !wifi
[10:21] <icqnumber> !info xvkb
[10:21] <unop> Buyydee, hmm,   ssh -v localhost
[10:21] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  you may want to check and install one of the following. sun-java6-* packages  the 'offical' sun javas
[10:21] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, why ssh for directory access? Why not ftp?
[10:21] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis: hmm, ok. Tried the java test on the java page, and it worked fine. But it said that I had an older version. Can try your advise :)
[10:21] <Guest39360> Okay. I'll try that.
[10:22] <unop> DistroJockey, ftp is dead because it _was_ insecure :)
[10:22] <gordonjcp> DistroJockey: never ever use ftp
[10:22] <ng0L> Hi, I tried to figure How/Why my Ubuntu cut off the connection while i am using web browser and I couldn't find any solution. No matter which browser I use, it still the same. It seemed like it load from page only about 2 3 seconds and it stopped by something. Who can help me to make my browser work with this Ubuntu?
[10:22] <DistroJockey> unop, sftp?
[10:22] <BuFF> is it enough to enable this http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y105/basskozz/Ubuntu/restrictivedrivers.jpg or shoud i install envy ?
[10:22] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: ssh was already installed and leaves me with more options afterwards... and security :)
[10:22] <unop> DistroJockey, sftp requires ssh
[10:22] <Daremonai> my wireless intel pro 3945ABG does not work on ubuntu 8.04, it worked fine on 7.10, I have tried so many things, but to no avail. (I have done what was said in the wifi docs), when i do iwlist scan, it shows the wlan0 but it follows it with an error.
[10:22] <Kartagis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4901641 <--- I downloaded a printer driver from mentioned page in this page, however printer's papersize settings are messed up when i send a document. any ideas why?
[10:22] <DistroJockey> unop, ahh :)
[10:22] <DistroJockey> gordonjcp, noted :)
[10:23] <Buyydee> unop: it stalls at "Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22."
[10:23] <icqnumber> forgot the name of the virtual key board, xvkb?
[10:23] <hangthedj> BuFF, that should work, i wouldn't mess with envy, it usually breaks things.
[10:23] <unop> Buyydee, you running a firewall?
[10:23] <gordonjcp> Buyydee: stop and think for a moment
[10:23] <usr13> If I use alsamixer to mute sound, will it stay muted after reboot?
[10:23] <gordonjcp> Buyydee: why are you trying to ssh to yourself?
[10:23] <noobuntu> ok I found out my problem is that: the sound of the normal notebook speakers is working, but the headphone output does not work. I tried it with 2 diff. earphones
[10:23] <usr13> (I want to reboot, but don't want to wake anyone up over there.)
[10:23] <unop> gordonjcp, to test things out
[10:24] <BuFF> hangthedj: thanks
[10:24] <Buyydee> gordonjcp: troubleshooting
[10:24] <ng0L> Repeat: <ng0L> Hi, I tried to figure How/Why my Ubuntu cut off the connection while i am using web browser and I couldn't find any solution. No matter which browser I use, it still the same. It seemed like it load from page only about 2 3 seconds and it stopped by something. Who can help me to make my browser work with this Ubuntu?
[10:24] <ng0L> Please help me
[10:24] <numen> good morning, i just 15mins ago ran new updates and after it Applications menu started to just show one small white box under it(using hardy with gnome) any tips getting applications menu back? places and system menus are currently working
[10:24] <Buyydee> unop: Not that I know of. I installed firestarter but it's switched off. I don't know if anything is running in the background
[10:24] <Luke771> HI. I opened one plain text file with kompozer  html editor once and now each time I click on an extensionless file, ubuntu tries to open it with kompozer. I tried to ser gedit as default but I couldn't find where to do that
[10:24] <usr13> ng0L: Check to see if "Work offline" is selected.
[10:24] <Luke771> er, I meant Hi, not HI
[10:24] <ng0L> usr13: NOPE
[10:25] <gordonjcp> Buyydee: are you actually running an sshd?
[10:25] <usr13> ng0L: Are you resolving domain names ok?
[10:25] <ng0L> usr13: it working online, and it load the page for 2 or 3 seconds and something interrupted the connection.
[10:25] <hangthedj> Luke771, if you right click on the html file, and choose properties you can change what opens it.
[10:25] <unop> Buyydee, yea, firestarter is a front-end to iptables, use firestarter and open/allow port 22 tcp
[10:25] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[10:25] <lclimber> hello everyone, i am runnning ubuntu on my notebook wich has an intel ich8 family sound card, my problem is that can't get the sound output through hdmi, do you have any ideas?
[10:26] <ng0L> usr13: Every pages, even firefox itself.
[10:26] <AMLNXUSR> can someone tell me the command to install compizconfig?
[10:26] <Guest39360> Okay. I'm reading through this, and I'm not sure exactly what to do. I installed debootstrap . . . do I continue to follow the link you gave me line by line?
[10:26] <usr13> ng0L: Try pinging the domain name.
[10:26] <Luke771> oh THERE it is. Thanks hangthedj
[10:26] <usr13> ng0L: Or, try pinging the nameserver
[10:27] <hangthedj> AMLNXUSR, sudo apt-get install python-compizconfig
[10:27] <unop> Guest39360, try and do what the tutorial tells you to do - pay close attention to the instructions
[10:27] <ng0L> usr13: it working fine either.
[10:27] <AMLNXUSR> ty
[10:27] <lclimber> AMLNXUSR aptitude install simple-ccsm
[10:27] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  i installed the sun jre, and plugin  and ran     sudo sudo update-alternatives --config java             So i am now using a differnt java. :) but i lost that bank url.
[10:27] <unop> !ops | BoltClock (exit message)
[10:28] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  still no good it seems.  What a weird bank site. or course it may be saying somthing differnt now. I cant read german.
[10:28] <Buyydee> unop: When I normally start the firewall from firestarter, the entire internet connection gets blocked, so I guess I'm running on a whitelist mode... But at the moment the firewall should be switched off, according to firestarter - is that enough for our purpose?
[10:29] <ng0L> usr13: My internet is working fine, I can even download if i know the exactly of the link. The problem I am facing is every browser on this ubuntu is interrupted by something after it loading for 2 or 3 seconds.
[10:29] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis: ok. I am trying to update java now..
[10:29] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis: German ? no no no .. Norwegian ;)
[10:29] <sehej> I just upgraded from 7.10 -> 8.04, and now my (usb) mouse isn't working..suggestions?
[10:29] <dr_Willis> Garibaldi_nor,  its all jibberish to me.
[10:29] <usr13> ng0L: That is interesting.  What type of ISP are you using?
[10:29] <Garibaldi_nor> dr_Willis:  hehe
[10:29] <icqnumber> !info xvkbd
[10:29] <ng0L> usr13: DSL
[10:29] <icqnumber> !search
[10:30] <DistroJockey> ng0L, sounds like a hosts file issue to me actually
[10:30] <ng0L> DistroJockey: Do you have any solution?
[10:30] <icqnumber> where can i search for packages?
[10:30] <unop> Buyydee, i guess - you need to make sure sshd is running   sudo netstat -lantp | grep ":22"  -- if it is, you should be able to connect
[10:30] <icqnumber> !xvkbd
[10:30] <ng0L> usr13: If my internet is not working, you wont see me here :D
[10:30] <usr13> ng0L: See if proper nameserver(s) are listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:30] <lclimber> icqnumber synaptic
[10:31] <unop> Buyydee, i gotta go now, i hope you get this sorted
[10:31] <Kartagis> icqnumber: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <DistroJockey> ng0L, can we see a pastebin the following please?:  /etc/hosts
[10:31] <ng0L> usr13: okay wait
[10:31] <doktoreas> wich application is used to make the autorun things for windows inside Ubuntu?
[10:31] <ng0L> DistroJockey: okay
[10:31] <lclimber> doktoreas wine
[10:31]  * Kartagis jumps up and down to be noticed
[10:32] <Buyydee> unop: Yes, as I thought - the connection is blocked, but the blocked events list of firestarter stays empty
[10:32] <icqnumber> do someone know where to find xvkbd package version 2.9 or above?
[10:32] <Panic1> has something changed to the mail notifications in evolution since hardy?  it doesn't work for me anymore
[10:32] <DistroJockey> icqnumber, get-deb.net maybe?
[10:32] <DASPRiD> stop jumping o.0
[10:33] <Guest39360> I'm still not understanding. I'm going through line by line and not getting any sort of significant results. Sorry to be a bother, I know how it is to deal with newbies.
[10:33] <DistroJockey> icqnumber, getdeb.net  sorry
[10:33] <wesley_v> !adeptfix
[10:33] <icqnumber> DistroJockey, ok
[10:34] <ng0L> DistroJockey: I couldnt pastebinit /etc/hosts
[10:34] <doktoreas> lclimber: I mean the application that appear if you put ubuntu livecd in win
[10:34] <x3> is there a way to remove old entries from boot menu e.g old entry is for ubuntu kernel 2.6.24-16 (also generec) but on menu there shows also for kernel 2.6.24-19
[10:34] <DistroJockey> ng0L, why not?
[10:34] <icqnumber> DistroJockey, no results
[10:34] <ng0L> usr13: nameserver 203.176.128.10
[10:34] <ng0L> nameserver 203.176.128.11
[10:34] <DistroJockey> icqnumber, noticed that, sorry
[10:35] <ng0L> DistroJockey: I dunno, can you specific the file name please?
[10:35] <DistroJockey> ng0L, /etc/hosts
[10:35] <icqnumber> DistroJockey, hardy comes with xvkbd 2.8 but it does not support russian language layout
[10:35] <BuFF> can't find an option to change my color as i type in xchat, any ideas ?
[10:35] <lclimber> doktoreas : ohh, try wuby
[10:35] <usr13> ng0L: Try:  http://208.68.18.97/
[10:36] <mic1394> hi
[10:36] <dr_Willis> x3,  the /boot/grub/menu.lst has a 'show how many' option. to only so so many entries.
[10:36] <mic1394> Can anyone help please, I installed vbox guest additions in ubuntu 8.04 but the highest resolution i get is 1024x768 how can i add higher resolutions
[10:36] <dr_Willis> x3, # howmany=all          is the default.
[10:36] <ng0L> usr13: It said waiting, but i know it wont be loaded successfully.
[10:37] <usr13> ng0L: Can you ping that nameserver? 203.176.128.11
[10:37] <officina> where can i find an italian chat support for ubuntu ?
[10:37] <usr13> ng0L: You may just have very slow connection, may be problem with your ISP right now.
[10:37] <TroyMcClure> officina: #ubuntu-it
[10:37] <DistroJockey> icqnumber, found this:  http://homepage3.nifty.com/tsato/xvkbd/
[10:37] <x3> dr_willis so I edit the lst and remove the entries I dont want or what
[10:37] <keule> where can i find german support for ubuntu?
[10:38] <Buyydee> :( My unop left me
[10:38] <officina> troy thank you
[10:38] <TroyMcClure> :D
[10:38] <icqnumber> DistroJockey, i know this page, thank you
[10:38] <ng0L> usr13: I thought so, but When i use the windows i can display any pages i want and it is not slow tough.
[10:39] <dr_Willis> x3,  I normally edit that ONE LINE. and set the # to be 2,   then you rerun 'sudo update-grub'
[10:39] <DistroJockey> icqnumber, no problem, hope it helps
[10:39] <Buyydee> Would it be wise to uninstall iptables?
[10:39] <dr_Willis> x3,  the menu.lst sort of auto-generates from those commented settings when you rerun update-grub
[10:39] <usr13> ng0L: Does your ISP use proxy?
[10:39] <usr13> ng0L: Are you supposed to use proxy server to access internet?
[10:39] <ng0L> usr13: I don't know
[10:40] <doktoreas> thx lclimber
[10:40] <numen> what menubar is gnome on hardy using by default?
[10:40] <usr13> ng0L: Look at the windows machine and see if it is using proxy server.
[10:40] <ng0L> usr13: No it is not.
[10:40] <lclimber> doktoreas, you are welcome, ubuntu hardy included that app on their livecd
[10:40] <usr13> ng0L: Is your DSL pppoe?
[10:40] <x3> dr-willis is there a way to editthat file non command line
[10:40] <ng0L> usr13: YES
[10:41] <dr_Willis> x3,  no idea. I always use a text editor. Its about a 10 sec edit.
[10:41] <usr13> ng0L: Does your DSL modem do the pppoe authentication for you?
[10:41] <x3> kk
[10:41] <x3> let me have a go see if I see logic
[10:41] <ng0L> usr13: Yes
[10:41] <KenSentMe> How can i add an attachment to an Ubuntu wiki page?
[10:42] <usr13> ng0L: Do you use a router between the DSL modem and your PCs?
[10:42] <dr_Willis> x3 change -->      # howmany=all    to   # howmany=2          , save/exit. and rerun 'sudo update-grub'
[10:42] <ng0L> usr13: From modem to a hub and from a hub to router and this pc is access directly to router port
[10:42] <usr13> ng0L: Is it a wired router?
[10:43] <x3> dr-willis thing is I have a dual boot with XP on
[10:43] <x3> I hate to loose that
[10:43] <ng0L> usr13:  Linksys :|
[10:43] <dr_Willis> x3,  that  howmany setting will NOT affect the 'non linux' os entries at all.
[10:43] <dr_Willis> x3,  it may be worth the time to go to the grub homepag. and read up on grub and its config files.
[10:44] <x3> kk gotcha
[10:44] <x3> thx Ill have a bash
[10:44] <dr_Willis> x3,  that setting just affects the # of linux kernel Entries shown..  I dont see much need to have 5+ of the things
[10:44] <usr13> ng0L: So, you have your Ubuntu PC connected to a Linksys router which is connected to a hub, which is connected to DSL modem?
[10:44] <x3> yea silly that old entries dont get removed
[10:44] <usr13> ng0L: Is that correct?
[10:45] <ng0L> usr13:  Yes sir.
[10:45] <dr_Willis> x3,  not really. its doing what makes sence. You still have the old kernels installed. if you removed them.. then they would get removed from the list also.
[10:45] <usr13> Is your windows PC connected to the same router?
[10:45] <x3> ah
[10:45] <usr13> ng0L: Is your windows PC connected to the same router?
[10:45] <x3> so the question now is why have old kernels installed as well
[10:46] <dr_Willis> x3,  incase somthing in the new kernel breaks the system.
[10:46] <x3> do I need to have them?
[10:46] <ng0L> usr13: they are connected to the switch which is connected from the router.
[10:46] <x3> mmmm
[10:46] <usr13> ng0L: You may have an IP conflict.
[10:46] <Buyydee> I'm having problems with connections to my PC. I had iptables unchanged (no rules), then I did this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24945/ and still I can't ssh myself. What could be the problem here?
[10:46] <erUSUL> x3: no you can uninstall old kernels.
[10:46] <usr13> Check to see that you do not have an IP conflict
[10:47] <bitumen2003> Welcome pretender_! You have achieved a new peak of 1305 users for #ubuntu!
[10:47] <x3> k do I use synaptic package manager for that or do I have to fiddle?
[10:47] <ng0L> usr13: all pcs are using manual configuration. This ubuntu also done that.
[10:47] <lisa_> Is there a free program that will help me create a nice DVD menu with a nice background, and then burn the mpeg to a DVD, and have it play like a normal DVD?
[10:47] <pretender_> Can anyone advise me where to find instructions to install E17 on gutsy
[10:47] <usr13> ng0L: Try changing IP address
[10:47] <ng0L> usr13: I was wondering if it is conflict IP too, so I am now using the IP which is difference from the other already.
[10:48] <ng0L> usr13: I did :(
[10:48] <usr13> ng0L: If there is an IP conflict, the Linux machine will back down, the MS Windows machine will not back down.
[10:48] <spsneo> any contributor from India?
[10:48] <usr13> ng0L: Very good.
[10:48] <lisa_> Is there a free program that will help me create a nice DVD menu with a nice background, and then burn the mpeg to a DVD, and have it play like a normal DVD?
[10:49] <ng0L> usr13: Linux still can use internet while it is conflict?
[10:49] <usr13> ng0L: If there is an IP conflict, the Linux machine will back down.
[10:49] <x3> dr-willis is there a cleanup tool to remove old kernels (I would hate to break the whole lot)
[10:50] <dr_Willis> x3,  the package manager can do it.
[10:50] <labalava> hello room
[10:50] <labalava> i have a question
[10:50] <usr13> ng0L: You should arrange your network so that there is no conflict.
[10:50] <dr_Willis> x3,  i rarely worry about them. they dotn take up much space.
[10:50] <usr13> ng0L: Do not try to use same IP for 2 different computers.
[10:50] <labalava> i got a cellphone with bluetooth and would like to connect from my pc ubuntu to my cellphone how can i connect?
[10:51] <x3> ok thx
[10:51] <ng0L> usr13: lets me change to another one now.
[10:51] <labalava> i got a cellphone with bluetooth and would like to connect from my pc ubuntu to my cellphone how can i connect?
[10:51] <usr13> ng0L: Do not set a PC to and IP address that is within the range of the DHCP server pool, (if you have DHCP server turned on - on the router).  etc.
[10:51] <x3> while Im here is there a good video encoder I want to get my dvd's done to divx or avi in linux
[10:52] <gordonjcp> !repeat | labalava
[10:52] <gordonjcp> !mencoder | x3
[10:52] <gordonjcp> bah
[10:52] <ng0L> usr13: my DHCP range is up to 100 to 150.
[10:52] <gordonjcp> x3: try mencoder
[10:52] <erUSUL> !info | dvdrip
[10:52] <x3> lovely
[10:52] <erUSUL> !info dvdrip | x3
[10:52] <x3> dvds are ripped already
[10:52] <usr13> ng0L: So if you use static IP, go below or above that range.
[10:53] <x3> lavely guys
[10:53] <usr13> ng0L: And do not use one that is already in use by another computer.
[10:53] <ng0L> usr13: Yes I did that too.
[10:53]  * x3 buys drinks all around
[10:53] <usr13> ng0L: And do not use one that is already in use by another computer or device.
[10:53] <ng0L> usr13: wait me a minute i need to reboot.
[10:53] <icqnumber> packages.ubuntu.com/ is down is there a mirror
[10:54] <usr13> ng0L: need to reboot what?
[10:54] <usr13> ng0L: The Linux machine?
[10:54] <ng0L> usr13: yes
[10:54] <usr13> ng0L: Why?
[10:54] <ng0L> usr13: I cannot access to network
[10:54] <usr13> ng0L: You shouldn't need to reboot.
[10:54] <ng0L> usr13: how can i open network then?
[10:55] <Buyydee> ﻿I'm having problems with connections to my PC. I had iptables unchanged (no rules), then I did this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24945/ and still I can't ssh myself. sshd is installed, rebooted and running. What could be the problem here?
[10:55] <usr13> ng0L: Just set IP and Default GW and nameserver and should be good to go.
[10:56] <ng0L> usr13: every applications is not openable.
[10:56] <ng0L> usr13: I dunno too
[10:56] <usr13> System -> Administration -> Network
[10:56] <icqnumber> what is about pudgin and icq?
[10:56] <usr13> ng0L: Unlock
[10:56] <icqnumber> !pidgin
[10:56] <usr13> ng0L: Click on Unlock and give password.
[10:57] <x3> kk mencoder and dvd rip on the way
[10:57] <ng0L> usr13: nah, my ubuntu is lagging. it won't be able to open any applications else beside the applications that i already opened.
[10:57] <bartmon> Hey guys! I'm trying to get compiz to work (desktop effects). I have tried reinstalling compiz but I still get this error:
[10:57] <bartmon> /usr/bin/compiz: 406: /usr/local/bin/compiz: not found
[10:57] <usr13> ng0L: Running low on system resources?
[10:57] <Buyydee> ubottu: Well, I wouldn't say ICQ, that's not working from the repositories :)
[10:57] <usr13> ng0L: Close some applications.
[10:57] <Buyydee> ubottu: I know
[10:57] <icqnumber> what is about pidgin and icq? is there an update to enable icq support again?
[10:58] <ng0L> usr13: I am only have x-chat right now
[10:58] <DJones> !icqbug | icqnumber
[10:58] <hyperstream> hey guys- i just brought a new lcd screen and attached it to my pc booted into ubuntu and i cant seem to get it to be the Main display and the current main display to be the OLD display
[10:58] <Buyydee> DJones: Also for Gutsy?
[10:58] <ng0L> usr13: it still not let me open other application.
[10:59] <usr13> ng0L: You can use terminal
[10:59] <usr13> ?
[10:59] <hyperstream> !monitor
[10:59] <ubutom> icqnumber: I'm currently using miranda with wine, not the best solution, but better than nothing... www.miranda-im.org
[10:59] <ng0L> usr13:  tell me how please
[10:59] <ng0L> usr13: oh wait
[10:59] <dr_Willis> hyperstream,  what video cards? what sort of connections we talking aobut?
[10:59] <DJones> Buyydee: I don't know which versions are being updated, I would think that all the ones that are broken will be looked at though
[10:59] <x3> meh any good firewall and antivirus going as well whats the best stuff there?
[10:59] <usr13> sudo ipconfig eth0 192.168.1.91
[11:00] <icqnumber> ubutom, what wine version?
[11:00] <ng0L> usr13: i cannot even open terminal
[11:00] <ubutom> icqnumber: There is also icq2go which can be used within a browser, should help until the fix is there
[11:00] <icqnumber> where is although no wine update 1.0 is out
[11:00] <usr13> ng0L: There is something seriously wrong with your PC.
[11:00] <hyperstream> dr_Willis:  both dvi connections- one is a big square one(crt ??) and the new one is a asus lcd
[11:00] <ubutom> icqnumber: latest from repos
[11:00] <usr13> ng0L: Maybe you DO need to reboot.  I don't know ....
[11:01] <DistroJockey> ng0L, does Ctrl+Alt+F2 work?
[11:01] <hyperstream> dr_Willis:  nvidia 7800
[11:01] <usr13> ng0L: Not sure what you have going on there, but maybe you can reboot and get back to something normal.
[11:01] <LSD|Ninja> Ubuntu still hasn't pushed a fix out for the Pidgin ICQ BS yet?
[11:01] <ubutom> icqnumber: 0.9.59
[11:01] <dr_Willis> hyperstream,  with  my nvidia card. I normally install that nvidia-settings tool. and tell it which one is the primary monitor.
[11:01] <icqnumber> ubutom, then 0.8.59
[11:01] <dr_Willis> hyperstream,  if i dont. then gdm shows up on the other monitor
[11:01] <icqnumber> ubutom, then 0.9.59*, yeh
[11:02] <hyperstream> dr_Willis:  thanks brb
[11:02] <usr13> ng0L: I must go now, maybe someone else can pick up with you.
[11:02] <dr_Willis> hyperstream,  nvidia-settings   is the tool i normally use
[11:02] <usr13> Enjoyed the session.  C U all Later.
[11:03] <hyperstream> dr_Willis: also should network in admin options here in gnome auto start my eth0 ?
[11:03] <dr_Willis> hyperstream,  not sure. i rarely have to mess with networking at all.  Id imagine it should start it.
[11:04] <ng0L> restarted
[11:06] <ng0L_> sorry i am back
[11:07] <ng0L_> usr13: hi
[11:07] <DistroJockey> ng0L_, you be back twice even ;)
[11:07] <hyperstream> brb
[11:08] <ng0L_> DistroJockey: yes :)
[11:08] <ng0L_> DistroJockey: I cannot get my browser work
[11:09] <DistroJockey> ng0L, and IRC works fine?
[11:09] <DistroJockey> oops, ng0L_ ^
[11:09] <ng0L_> DistroJockey: I don't think it is because of my ISP or those browser, but the Ubuntu is the main problem.
[11:09] <ng0L_> DistroJockey: Yes hehehe damn fine:D
[11:10] <DistroJockey> ng0L_, proxy setting in your browser maybe?
[11:10] <doktoreas> anyone knows wich application is umenu?
[11:11] <ng0L_> DistroJockey:  Nope
[11:12] <DistroJockey> ng0L_, bad or no DNS server entry maybe?
[11:12] <jon_mark022> HI!
[11:12] <jon_mark022> hi all Ubu users
[11:12] <ng0L_> DistroJockey: also not
[11:12] <DistroJockey> ng0L_, out of ideas atm sorry :(
[11:12] <ubunubi> yay. 5hours of work and hibernate finally works! woot
[11:13] <jon_mark022> hello ubunubi
[11:13] <ng0L_> DistroJockey: I've been here for 2 days now and none could solve.
[11:13] <ubunubi> sup?
[11:13] <DistroJockey> !yay | ubunubi
[11:14] <ubunubi> anyone else feel compizfusion is more hassle than it's worth?
[11:14] <DistroJockey> ng0L_, yeah, it looks to be a tricky one
[11:14] <ng0L_> DistroJockey: :| if firefox is suck then another browser would work right? but all is the same
[11:15] <bitumen2003> yep screes with dual-monitor so don´t use it
[11:15] <bitumen2003> screes == screws
[11:15] <DistroJockey> ng0L_, the only thing I can think of that would do that is a firewall blocking port 80
[11:15] <ng0L_> DistroJockey: I might need to uninstall every applications are installed.
[11:15] <ubunubi> is there a decent HD benchmark tool easily available?
[11:16] <ng0L_> DistroJockey: If it is blocked, i wouldnt use firefox to download the file, if i know exactly the link.
[11:16] <labalava> hello room i have question can somebody pls help me ! ? i set all my settings for my desktop in ubuntu but the effects and the animation for the windows for open or close what i set dosnt work for example fire or sidekick or wave and kinda things why could it be ? ps:( animations effects are enable )
[11:16] <bazhang> what about wget
[11:16] <DistroJockey> ng0L_, true
[11:17] <ng0L_> bazhang: u r asking me?
[11:17] <DistroJockey> ng0L_, that's why I mentioned DNS. Very odd
[11:17] <bazhang> labalava, for compiz you should ask in #compiz-fusion
[11:17] <labalava> compiz fusion?
[11:17] <bazhang> ng0L_, yes; does wget work
[11:17] <ng0L_> DistroJockey: if DNS is wrong i think i cannot even be here.
[11:18] <ng0L_> bazhang: i haven't try it yet. because i donno the command. Can you tell me?
[11:18] <DistroJockey> ng0L_, depends if you use name.host or 111.111.111.111 for e.g.
[11:18] <MartinvDK> Since I upgraded to hardy, the graphics driver doesn't work at all.. running glxgears at around 20 fps (although it looks more like 1-2 fps). Can anyone help? ATi FireGL 5200
[11:19] <ng0L_> DistroJockey:  i see.
[11:20] <ng0L_> bazhang: i can download with wget :(
[11:20] <ng0L_> bazhang: and it is done the download :D
[11:21] <ng0L_> See? my internet is not kinda slow or not working. but ubuntu itself interrupt my connection while i display the page.
[11:21] <asfalt> hi all , is there a graphical mount tool for ubuntu hardy? searched with apt-cache but nothing caught my attention, want to see if I can add fresh partition via gui
[11:22] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, can you patebin your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  please?
[11:22] <bazhang> ng0L_, you wget'd using http, ftp, or other
[11:22] <asfalt> it's already formatted, just needs to be mounted
[11:22] <ng0L_> bazhang: I did use http
[11:22] <DistroJockey> !pastebin | MartinvDK
[11:23] <icqnumber> ubutom, by the way , kopete works good as expected (icq protocol)
[11:23] <bazhang> ng0L_, this is gutsy or hardy; home network or uni; wired or wireless (got a firewall yea or nay)
[11:23] <ubunubi> asfalt:: you mean you want something to help you configure the new parition in your fstab for automatic mounting?
[11:23] <asfalt> ubunubi precisely :)
[11:24] <MartinvDK> My xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24951/
[11:24] <ng0L_> bazhang: home network :D
[11:24] <ubunubi> asfalt:: download pysdm
[11:24] <ubunubi> asfalt:: it's not perfect...so be careful with it..but if you're not being fancy it'll work
[11:24] <dr_Willis> !info pysdm
[11:24] <bazhang> ng0L_, I had more than that one question
[11:24] <Melgo> I want to remove xubuntu-desktop(yes, almost everything) but apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop just removes a small metapackage, leaving everything intact. How do I get rid of all these applications? I need to fit the system in under a gigabyte.
[11:24] <asfalt> excellent thanks ubunubi
[11:25] <ng0L_> bazhang: I use the wireless router
[11:25] <ubunubi> asfalt:: np
[11:25] <ubunubi> asfalt:: be as careful with it as you would sudo editing fstab!
[11:25] <ng0L_> bazhang: and not a wireless to access internet, I use wire to access to router.
[11:25] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, you could try doing the   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg   after making a backup of  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:25] <MartinvDK> DistroJockey: ok, I'll try that
[11:26] <ng0L_> gutsy or hardy is?
[11:26] <redcrow> MartinvDK, what's the problem?
[11:26] <asfalt> ubunubi hmmm the startling thing is wants to "configure" existing partitions :D
[11:26] <MartinvDK> It's my ATi driver, it appears it doesn't work.. It worked fine in the previous ubuntu, now (in Hardy), it doesn't work
[11:27] <ubunubi> asfalt:: it should only do that for partitions using UUIDs in fstab
[11:27] <ng0L_> brb
[11:27] <redcrow> MartinvDK, dri or resolution?
[11:27] <bazhang> ng0L_, what version of ubuntu and what version of firefox; how many addons in firefox and what are they
[11:27] <bazhang> oy
[11:27] <ubunubi> asfalt:: do all your existing paritions use UUIDs instead of /dev/xxx ?
[11:27] <ghostknife> Is there some way I can make an installation script for ubuntu? We basically want to ship our software as a preinstalled everything. So something puts in the Ubuntu installation CD, then it runs them through the installation with a single click, only prompting for a few basic details like company name, network config, etc.. ?
[11:27] <MartinvDK> I've tried the proprietary drivers fglrx. It's an ATi firegl 5200
[11:28] <asfalt> ubunti let me look at my fstab, i dont think that may be the case
[11:28] <redcrow> Martinp23, but...?
[11:28] <redcrow> MartinvDK, but...?
[11:28] <asfalt> yes they do except for the cdrom
[11:29] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, here's my xorg.conf running with an ATI 9600 pro in Hardy (clean install):  http://pastebin.com/f757bfac0
[11:29]  * delcoyote hi
[11:30] <MartinvDK> DistroJockey: My new xorg looks like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24952/
[11:30] <ubunubi> asfalt:: in that care you have to patch your pysdm
[11:30] <ubunubi> asfalt:: to allow it to process UUIDs
[11:30] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, cool :)
[11:30] <MartinvDK> DistroJockey: is that a Radeon card?
[11:30] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, yep
[11:31] <cellofellow> hello, I have a Everex STEPNote here with VIA Chrome9 video card. It works ok, except the screen resolution is too high. Displayconfig will set it right, but that doesn't effect the login screen.
[11:31] <italy> hello
[11:31] <cellofellow> How do I set the default resolution in Xorg.conf?
[11:31] <cellofellow> (Hardy did something screwy to xorg.conf and how to use it.)
[11:31] <italy> I am italian  student
[11:31] <cellofellow> italy: cool
[11:32] <redcrow> italy, ciao :P
[11:32] <italy> sei italiano
[11:32] <redcrow> si
[11:32] <italy> ?
[11:32] <openuser> hi, does anbody know where can I get vmware via repository or precompiled?, it was in ubuntu repos, but know it isn't
[11:32] <ubunubi> asfalt:: if you really trust me i can give you my patched copy of psydm..i can't remember the patch process. someone walked me through it
[11:32]  * cellofellow needs to set default resolution to 1280x800
[11:32] <Buyydee> ﻿I'm having problems with connections to my PC. I had iptables unchanged (no rules), then I did this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24945/ and still I can't ssh myself. What could be the problem here?
[11:32] <bazhang> !it | italy
[11:33] <redcrow> cellofellow, Modes		"1280x1024"
[11:33] <redcrow> *1280x800, sorry
[11:33] <italy> ok
[11:33] <MartinvDK> (Rebooting)
[11:34] <cellofellow> redcrow: um, wheredo I put that?
[11:34] <redcrow> in Section "Screen", make SubSection "Display"
[11:35] <ubunubi> asfalt:: you still there?
[11:35] <cellofellow> redcrow: like this?
[11:35] <cellofellow>         SubSection "Display"
[11:35] <cellofellow>                 Modes "1280x800"
[11:35] <cellofellow>         EndSub
[11:36] <FloodBot1> cellofellow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <cellofellow> I only pasted 3 lines!!
[11:36] <redcrow> cellofellow, wait a moment
[11:36] <cellofellow> redcrow: ???
[11:36] <cellofellow> ok
[11:37] <redcrow> cellofellow, example: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24953/
[11:37] <openuser> ﻿hi, does anbody know where can I get vmware via repository or precompiled?, it was in ubuntu repos, but know it isn't
[11:37] <redcrow> first resolution in Modes is default
[11:37] <uby> Hi everyone. I suspect my laptop is a zombie. dmesg output: domain 0: span 03 groups: 02 01 domain 1: span 03 groups: 03. Anyone had troubles with gnash? it "eats" 22% of cpu power and boosts fan work. any hints?
[11:37] <cellofellow> ok, thanks
[11:37] <redcrow> cellofellow, ;)
[11:38] <bazhang> openuser, canonical partner repos has vbox now iirc
[11:38] <ubutom> icqnumber: mine doesn't, but I have Kopete 0.12.7
[11:38] <DistroJockey> uby, don't use gnash?
[11:38] <icqnumber> ubutom, same here my works out of the box
[11:39] <ubutom> hhm, strange...
[11:39] <openuser> bazhang: but I cannot use some games with it (on windows xp), because it says the graphic card is not compatible with direct9
[11:39] <icqnumber> ubutom, kopete does not have this issue only oidgun does
[11:39] <icqnumber> pidgin*
[11:39] <uby> DistroJockey, a possibility
[11:40] <DistroJockey> uby, I use  flashplugin-nonfree  usually
[11:41] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=779934 openuser
[11:41] <icqnumber> ubutom, i believe you seted up something wrong
[11:41] <dacorr> Did they manage to get konversation to hide the hostmask in the end?
[11:41] <descentspb> hello!
[11:41] <handymanjack> hi all
[11:41] <ubutom> icqnumber: I installed kopete a while ago and it wasn't updated, I don't really have kde installed on my machine, that could be the problem
[11:41] <uby> DistroJockey, what about my dmesg? any clue?
[11:42] <icqnumber> ubutom,  you do not need to have kde installed for that
[11:42] <ubutom> icqnumber: before kopete licq and pidgin worked
[11:42] <ubutom> now none of them can connect
[11:42] <DistroJockey> uby, nope, never seen that and there is probably not enough context to judge from that
[11:43] <handymanjack> @ubutom icq was updated - u need the newest versions of them
[11:43] <descentspb> can anyone help please with such a problem (not exactly ubuntu-related): I've installed a pptpd server on Ubuntu-server, and gave a pretty much default configuration to it. When i connect to it with the clients, they see the server perfectly, and the server itself sees them perfectly too. But the clients themselves can not even ping each other with the adresses, that the VPN server gave them. How can I resolve it?
[11:43] <pradeep> hi all
[11:43] <cmdblock> helllo everybody
[11:43] <handymanjack> hoi
[11:43] <pradeep> hola
[11:43] <ubutom> handymanjack: Yeah, I know, but I wait for the repos to be updated
[11:43] <Melgo> I want to remove xubuntu-desktop(yes, almost everything) but apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop just removes a small metapackage, leaving everything intact. How do I get rid of all these applications? I need to fit the system in under a gigabyte.
[11:44] <uby> DistroJockey, removed gnash. thanks ;)
[11:44] <DistroJockey> uby, no problem. Better now?
[11:44] <uby> DistroJockey, way better
[11:44] <DistroJockey> uby, cool :) you're welcome :)
[11:44] <moDumass> hey all, um this may be solved or in the working but i click update and get this error "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnspr4-0d_4.7.1+1.9-0ubuntu0.8.04.2_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libnspr4.so', which is also in package libnspr4
[11:44] <moDumass> "
[11:45] <moDumass> any ideas?
[11:45] <RomeReactor> Melgo: so you just want to use Ubuntu in command line?
[11:46] <bazhang> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome Melgo see here how to remove all xubuntu stuff
[11:46] <asfalt> ubunubi is there a way I can mount it in a way that does not come up on desktop?
[11:47] <ubunubi> asfalt:: that i'm not sure about...that drives me crazy also
[11:47] <asfalt> using psydm results in desktop icon for the mounted volume
[11:47] <asfalt> ahh
[11:47] <asfalt> :D
[11:47] <ubunubi> asfalt:: did you get the UUID patch applied?
[11:47] <dr_Willis> thats a gnome setting asfalt  if icons are shown or not.
[11:47] <massmc> Hi, how do I enable samba file sharing for a folder after its installed
[11:47] <asfalt> ubunubi no, i did not, no idea how heh
[11:48] <Melgo> RomeReactor: Not exactly, I'm just fitting this on my OLPC, I'll still have Xorg. I already found a list of packages that I can copy&paste to apt-get remove myself. Now to just get that list into qemu so I can remove them.
[11:48] <asfalt> i just relied on the psydm tool and that added it to fstab
[11:48] <DistroJockey> ubunubi, asfalt : you can set that in  gconf-editor  under  apps - nautilus - desktop
[11:48] <asfalt> DistroJockey ahh thanks
[11:48] <ubunubi> asfalt: if you want i can send you my patched fstab.py (i dont remember the process of patching it someone walked me through it) then UUID partitions/drives will show up okay
[11:48] <DistroJockey> asfalt, you're welcome
[11:48] <pradeep> how do i use wine
[11:48] <moDumass> hmm, any idea why update manager is getting this error?
[11:49] <Melgo> bazhang: thanks, I saw that :D
[11:49] <pradeep> where should i use wine
[11:49] <DistroJockey> !wine | pradeep
[11:49] <moDumass> pradeep, use wine if you want to install windows apps
[11:50] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, welcome back :)
[11:50] <ubunubi> DistroJockey: thanks. good riddens auto-icons!
[11:50] <pradeep> ok
[11:50] <DistroJockey> ubunubi, :) you're welcome
[11:50] <pradeep> thnaks
[11:50] <massmc> !samba
[11:50] <ubunubi> DistroJockey: i hate automagic stuff when it's not amazing apparent how to disable it if one wishes
[11:50] <pradeep> thanks *
[11:51] <DistroJockey> pradeep, you're welcome :)
[11:51] <ganas> hai
[11:51] <DistroJockey> ubunubi, yeah, gconf-editor is not that friendly either :)
[11:51] <tim3> hi all
[11:51] <tim3> ubuntu geeks :)
[11:51] <ubunubi> DistroJockey: it reminds of of my XP registry hacking days...not so bad. atleast it has check boxes instead of octal values
[11:52] <moDumass> hmm, is any one having update manager issues with the E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnspr4-0d_4.7.1+1.9-0ubuntu0.8.04.2_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libnspr4.so', which is also in package libnspr4
[11:52] <moDumass>  replacement package?
[11:52] <DistroJockey> ubunubi, yep :) BTW I still do that XP regedit stuff ;)
[11:52] <moDumass> sorry, didnt mean to paste the whole lot there
[11:53] <MartinvDK> DistroJockey: it's still not working, I'll just experiment a little with it, then return when I give up :P
[11:53] <DistroJockey> !ati | MartinvDK
[11:54] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, good luck
[11:54] <MartinvDK> ah thanks, I'll look at it :D
[11:54] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, but I don't use the binary and get 2800 fps with glxgears
[11:54] <MartinvDK> ok, you use the open source drivers?
[11:54] <DistroJockey> yep
[11:55] <polygon89> hello, for some reason with pidgin, when i get  a new message, the "Pidgin" thing on the taskbar (that lists the open windows) doesnt flash...it works fine on every other computer i try, any idea how i can fix this? it seems to be a ubuntu problem...
[11:55] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, full compiz effects no problem
[11:55] <MartinvDK> DistroJockey: Wow, hmm... the open source drivers are called VESA, right?
[11:56] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, nope, radeon
[11:56] <polygon89> the open source drivers do not provide 3d support however.
[11:56] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, or ati
[11:56] <MartinvDK> hm ok..
[11:56] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, not fglrx
[11:57] <[LMM]Iowahc> hy there, ubuntuforums.com is down?
[11:57] <DistroJockey> .org ?
[11:58] <bazhang> [LMM]Iowahc, load fine here
[11:58] <polygon89> [LMM]Iowahc, no
[11:58] <[LMM]Iowahc> ,org yes sorry ^^
[11:58] <[LMM]Iowahc> ok, then my isp has some probs
[11:58] <DistroJockey> [LMM]Iowahc, http://ubuntuforums.org/
[11:59] <MartinvDK> um, when you set some wrong settings in xorg.conf, when you reboot you get a box with different choices for the graphics driver.. how can I get to those settings when ubuntu is running?
[11:59] <DistroJockey> MartinvDK, hmm, never seen that
[11:59] <MartinvDK> ok
[11:59] <polygon89> he is talking about safe mode
[12:00] <pradeep> yea finally i installed thru wine
[12:00] <pradeep> thanks u all
[12:00] <DistroJockey> polygon89, don't think I have ever seen that either ;)
[12:00] <MartinvDK> I think it was there in feisty, as an 'advanced' button, in the 'propietary drivers settings'
[12:00] <raj_> pradeep  i have one ISO file , i want to read each byte of that ISO file and also i have to convert that ISO file in HEX file, and i want to wright C code for this
[12:00] <PradeepDebata> HI
[12:00] <ubunubi> asfalt: you got everything you need working ?
[12:01] <PradeepDebata> Pradeep:hi
[12:01] <pradeep> hello
[12:01] <apache2conf> hello where i can get ubuntu server 8.04 default apache2 conf ? lamp installed
[12:01] <julian_> i need german help with xubuntu! wich channel?
[12:01] <PradeepDebata> Pradeep:u r from india
[12:01] <raj_>  i have one ISO file , i want to read each byte of that ISO file and also i have to convert that ISO file in to HEX file, and i want to wright C code for this
[12:02] <bazhang> !de
[12:02] <bazhang> julian_, ^^
[12:02] <dr_Willis> raj_,  you may want to clarify tha tquestion. and correct the spelling mistakes..   I also wonder what a 'hex' file actually is.
[12:02] <julian_> very much thank you!
[12:02] <DistroJockey> apache2conf,  I like to use   sudo tasksel   to install LAMP
[12:03] <ubunubi> raj_::ask someone to do your c programming homework is offtopic here sorry
[12:03] <apache2conf> hmm
[12:03] <ubunubi> !offtopic | raj_
[12:03] <bazhang> maybe try ##c
[12:03] <apache2conf> DistroJockey i need only apache2.conf from /etc/apache2
[12:04] <DistroJockey> apache2conf, I can pastebin mine if you like
[12:04] <apache2conf> DistroJockey it would be very nice :)
[12:05] <DistroJockey> apache2conf, http://pastebin.com/f62aed3c2
[12:05] <apache2conf> DistroJockey tnx :)
[12:05] <DistroJockey> apache2conf, no problem, it's unmodified
[12:05] <ubunubi> is it possible to give ext3 partitions labels? tired of 157.8GB media being listed
[12:05] <gnufied> is there anyway to have system wide proxy in Linux? i am aware of Gnome network proxy tool, but it doesn't work for programs that run with superuser priviliges and stuff. for example, cisco vpn client is not using that proxy setting.
[12:05] <apache2conf> DistroJockey nice !
[12:06] <dr_Willis> ubunubi,  use the 'tune2fs
[12:06] <dr_Willis> ubunubi,  use the 'tune2fs' or 'e2label'
[12:06] <ubunubi> dr_willis:: are those safe? wikipedia showed that ext3 doesn't support volume labels -- ??
[12:07] <dr_Willis> ubunubi,  ive neer heard them considered unsafe.  I use them all the time to set my labels.
[12:07] <SliMM> hello
[12:07] <polygon89> ubunubi, no ext3 supports volume labels. i use them
[12:07] <dr_Willis> It would be weird if ext2 supported them ,. and ext3 didetn.
[12:07] <ubunubi> dr_Willis: will e2label support UUIDS naming?
[12:08] <dr_Willis> ubunubi,  you mean changing the uuids ? or what?
[12:08] <MadsRH> ﻿Hi. Does anyone know if there's any progress to the Deviant competition??? ﻿blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/deviantart-theme-competition
[12:08] <SliMM> if I choose to use RSA authentication for ssh, like in this tutorial: http://www.noervig.dk/?p=25
[12:08] <dr_Willis> check its man pages. I just use the command to set my DataDisk Labels normally.
[12:08] <SliMM> where do I have to generate the key? on the client or on the server?
[12:08] <Buyydee> Hey. I can't ping localhost :) Iptables is set up as default, I have vpnc running. I'm using Gutsy x86_64bit. Internet works fine, network as well. Can you help me out?
[12:08] <ubunubi> dr_Willis: i mean, it asks for e2label DEVICE label...and some of my devices are mounted by UUID not by /dev/hdx
[12:09] <bazhang> MadsRH, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-artwork
[12:09] <dr_Willis> ubunubi,  its not one OR the other.. the /dev/device name will work also.
[12:09] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, does your  /etc/hosts  file have  a localhost entry?
[12:09] <dr_Willis> ubunubi,  also i dont think the system sees the label change till a reboot.
[12:09] <the_herby> what is this new version number of ubuntu? 8.04.1 ?
[12:10] <adred> hi, what's the command used to know a partition's ID?
[12:10] <dr_Willis> Service Pack 1 ? :)
[12:10] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: yes, it does
[12:10] <dr_Willis> !uuid | adred
[12:10] <MadsRH> ﻿ bazhang --> Did that - no reply ;-)
[12:10] <DistroJockey> adred, sudo blkid
[12:10] <adred> thanks guys!
[12:11] <alu23> Hi all! I have a problem with XForwarding over ssh. Anyone here to help me?
[12:11] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, well, I'm out of ideas for the moment :)
[12:11] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: I also can't ping 127.0.0.1
[12:11] <Buyydee> ah, that sucks, so many programmes aren't working... Maxima, Mathematica, ssh....
[12:11] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, ifconfig have a  lo  interface?
[12:12] <SliMM> ok, how can I make private/public key pair and use it for ssh?
[12:12] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: no, I'll put it to pastebin, one sec
[12:13] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24959/
[12:13] <ubunubi> dr_Willis: know how to set the label for an ntfs drive also?
[12:14] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, found this bug report, may give you some things to look into:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/83715
[12:16] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: That's *exactly* my problem definition :)
[12:16] <betim> anyone knows any application like tvtime, but that works through X11Forwarding
[12:16] <Jabroni5> I am running Ubuntu 8.04 via. Parallels, in OS X. I have been having trouble finding resolutions that work properly (at all), and full-screen mode seems inoperable. Has anyone else with my configuration experienced the same issues?
[12:16] <DistroJockey> Buyydee,  :) Gotta love Google :)
[12:18] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: Well, you know, I've been stuck with this for half a year now.... I posted several posts in the ubuntu forums from problems that didn't seem to have any connection and no-one had any ideas and then you play Dr. House et voila :) Now just gotta fix it, and I thought it was Lupus all the time :P
[12:18] <bazhang> http://www.simplehelp.net/mac/how-to-increase-the-screen-resolutions-available-to-ubuntu-while-running-in-parallels-for-os-x/ Jabroni5
[12:19] <sarthor> Hi, getting help here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ov51x#Compile but the command (sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-uname -r ) Giving the error [E: Command line option 'r' [from -r] is not known.] how to fix this. and I think it shuld not creat any error
[12:19] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: You should get the last one if you watch Dr. House, otherwise don't bother trying :)
[12:19] <sarthor> using hardy
[12:19] <Jabroni5> ty baz
[12:20] <bazhang> sarthor, no dash after headers
[12:20] <sarthor> ok
[12:20] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, lol, I watch it occasionally, but not sure of the Lupus bit :)
[12:20] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: Now, serious again, I did what the last post in the bugreport told me and added that (to an empty file), now is this file read when I use network-manager?
[12:21] <sarthor> bazhang,  is it ok?? apt-get install build-essential linux-headers uname -r
[12:21] <sarthor> this not working
[12:21] <bazhang> sarthor, you got the link?
[12:21] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, I honestly have no idea, didn't read the report fully
[12:21] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: I'll go and try then
[12:21] <pulse00> hi there. i'm trying to get dual monitor in BigDesktop mode working with an ati card. When applying the BigDesktop setting in the Ati Control Center, the X Server immediately switches to this mode and it works fine, but upon a restart everything is set back to clone mode, although the control center has written some changes in xorg.conf. anyone knows what i'm missing out here ?
[12:21] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, :)
[12:21] <Buyydee> See you soon :)
[12:21] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, good luck
[12:22] <Jabroni5> In reference to resolution issues under Parallels, I would also note that I recently "upgraded" from a mid-range ATI graphics card, to a more recent nVidia model -- any thoughts on whether the drivers used by Ubuntu/Parallels are entirely generic?
[12:22] <sarthor> bazhang, here is the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ov51x#Compile
[12:23] <bazhang> sarthor, you used sudo? the dash is needed it seems (my mistake)
[12:23] <sarthor> i am root there
[12:23] <adred> hi, someone help me how to mount ext3 partition? please try open this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24962/ .i want to mount sda3 partition..
[12:23] <sarthor> bazhang, and i also used sudo
[12:23] <bazhang> sarthor, why are you root
[12:24] <HomesickA> hello all
[12:24] <HomesickA> my query is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=849084
[12:24] <HomesickA> any ideas?
[12:24] <sarthor> bazhang, now i am not root, and i am using sudo also. but the same error
[12:24] <Dedi> sarthor: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:25] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-uname -r seems that is wrong without backticks sarthor
[12:25] <bazhang> oops
[12:25] <DistroJockey> adred, mount permanently?
[12:26] <sarthor> Dedi, notworking
[12:26] <adred> DistroJockey yup
[12:26] <sarthor> bazhang, backticks?
[12:26] <Dedi> sarthor: of course this works now
[12:27] <bazhang> ` <---like that sarthor
[12:27] <DistroJockey> adred, I ain't that good with  /etc/fstab  yet, sorry
[12:27] <adred> DistroJockey, yup. can you help me please. i want to make it as a storage partition
[12:27] <adred> DistroJockey, ok . np
[12:28] <sarthor> Dedi, bazhang i used this apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`    and it says linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic is already the newest version
[12:28] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: Hey, I seriously love you :D All problems I had with ubuntu are gone, they all had that same cause. Just imagine how happy I am at the moment :)
[12:28] <Dedi> sarthor: then everything is fine :)
[12:28] <sarthor> but i need that command to use..
[12:28] <sarthor> how can i use that command.
[12:28] <bazhang> sarthor, then build-essential is all you need :)
[12:28] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, excellent :) Glad to be of help :)
[12:28] <sarthor> coz the howto says like that.. and i am new
[12:28] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: Mathematica: running. wxMaxima: running. 8 Minute startup time of ubuntu: gone. ssh: working
[12:28] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: I seriously owe you :)
[12:28] <Dedi> sarthor: the message you got is not a error message
[12:29] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, just help here where you can :)
[12:29] <alu23> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of the nolisten option for the X server (Kubuntu 7.10)?
[12:30] <sarthor> Dedi, E: Command line option 'r' [from -r] is not known.before i used the command, and it was working..
[12:30] <sarthor> and now i am unable to install my webcam
[12:30] <Buyydee> DistroJockey: I always do :) Thank you again
[12:30] <DistroJockey> Buyydee, you're most welcome
[12:30] <matrix> good morning
[12:31] <Dedi> sarthor: if you cant see that there was a typo and got it explained twice from bazhang then i cant help you either
[12:31] <PradeepDebata> matrix: good afternoon
[12:31] <matrix> hi there
[12:31] <Dedi> sarthor: just go back to windows pls
[12:32] <sarthor> Dedi, Ok. this is my kernel linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic So how to change this sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-uname -r according my kernel?? please help here
[12:32] <matrix> i  been having problems logging in to launchpad i tried to reset it says wrong email but i know it is the right one
[12:32] <matrix> any idea's
[12:33] <adred> hi, help me how to mount ext3 partition pls..here's the link of the fdisk and blkid output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24962/ .i want to mount sda3 partition..
[12:36] <Dr_willis_> adred,  Somthing Similer to --->         UUID="2a7f485a-d578-4890-8324-6de69b215aa7" /media/mountpoint ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:36] <Dr_willis_> in the /etc/fstab file
[12:37] <sobersabre> guys. is there a way to make pidgin work wit icq ?
[12:37] <sobersabre> (there's this icq v.6 protocol around...)
[12:37] <Dr_willis_> sobersabre,  theres a updated pidgin i belive.
[12:37] <sobersabre> Dr_willis_: I haven't seen it...
[12:37] <sobersabre> the latest is from 2nd in July.
[12:37] <sobersabre> and I am still getting that damn error
[12:38] <grp> hello everybody
[12:38] <grp> hola a todos
[12:38] <Stavroulis> hallo
[12:38] <Dr_willis_> sobersabre,  someone asks about ICQ every other hour it seesm in here. :) i havent been paying attention to it.. since i gave up on ICQ some many years ago.
[12:39] <microwaver> quick dumb question ls - l gives the sizes in bytes right?
[12:40] <Janeux> hi every1
[12:40] <Dr_willis_> microwaver,  its customizeable ;) mine shows in k
[12:40] <grp> hi microwaver, yes, I think you are right. There is an option for Ks
[12:40] <Dr_willis_> -rw-r--r--  1 willis willis  30K 2008-06-27 08:34 main.html
[12:40] <microwaver> Dr_willis_, grp  where to adjust it ? :p
[12:40] <lng> hi! what's command name to add vhost?
[12:40] <Dr_willis_> alias ls='ls -hF --color'
[12:41] <Dr_willis_> makes it show -h (human readable sizes) i think by default
[12:41] <microwaver> aha
[12:41] <Janeux> How can I remove from the ubuntu panel the "Places" and "System" menus??
[12:41] <Dr_willis_> so ls -l here is actually 'ls -lhF --color'
[12:41] <microwaver> hmmm so when I put the alias command I can start adjusting it?
[12:41] <Oney> Anyone have a good suggestion for an SSH app for Ubuntu that's similar to WinSCP?
[12:41] <microwaver> Carpe|Diem, welcome fello country man
[12:42] <Dr_willis_> Oney,  most of the file managers can do ssh connections.
[12:42] <Janeux> oney: openssh will work
[12:42] <Oney> Dr_willis_, ?
[12:42] <Carpe|Diem> Hello microwaver  ;) Belgian too?:)
[12:42] <Stavroulis> I'm looking for a LAN instant messenger which runs on Ubuntu and Windows. Could you please help me?
[12:42] <microwaver> Carpe|Diem, Indeed, saw you're a telenet user :P
[12:42] <Janeux> ﻿How can I remove from the ubuntu menu panel the "Places" and "System" menus??
[12:43] <microwaver> Dr_willis_, thanks it's showing a size I can never fit on my key :P
[12:43] <Carpe|Diem> ok microwaver  :p hehehehe so you're flemisch too?
[12:43] <microwaver> Carpe|Diem, Indeed
[12:43] <grp> i don't think you can store that
[12:43] <Carpe|Diem> :)
[12:43] <grp> nothing in the manuals
[12:43] <microwaver> Dr_willis_, it's not showing color tho.
[12:43] <Oney> Janeux, OpenSSH connects out with a simple file browser interface like WinSCP?
[12:44] <DistroJockey> Janeux, right-click the panel and Add  Main Menu, then right-click on Places and remove it
[12:44] <Oney> Or is there something else Dr_willis_?
[12:45] <Janeux> oney: I dont  know
[12:45] <Sa1> hi there
[12:46] <tiewire> my hp dv9000 laptop (hardy) locked up during a terminal server session and I had to power it off to get out.  Now when I press the power button the screen stays black and all I can hear is the fan.  No text on the screen at all.  Any Ideas how to fix?
[12:46] <Sa1> I have a problem after installing gfxboot... I think i installed grub in an incorrect way and one of my windows drives is not mounting... can anybody help?
[12:46] <Kartagis> when I start Printing through System>Administration, it just closes after it starts. when I start it from the console, it gives me 2 screens of errors and dies. i tried uninstalling and re-installing but it still is the same. what to do?
[12:47] <Janeux> distroj: but I just want to remove the place and system options not the panel
[12:47] <grp> tiewire, do you have any other linux live distro cd?
[12:47] <grp> jsut to check that is the hard disk
[12:48] <grp> could it be the power or something else?/
[12:48] <tiewire> The hard disc works fine
[12:48] <grp> i had something similar once, i tried to boot, and the computer was kind of locked
[12:48] <grp> i turned it off again, and it was all fine
[12:48] <kreiszner_> Sal have you looked at your fstab file
[12:48] <Sa1> no
[12:49] <Sa1> i am kinda new to Linux
[12:49] <grp> no worries
[12:49] <grp> well... are you in linux now?
[12:49] <Sa1> but i can follow your instructions
[12:49] <Oney> Janeux, dr_Willis, how do I get OpenSSH? I tried "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" but I got "E: Couldn't find package openssh-server"
[12:49] <Sa1> yes
[12:49] <grp> or in W?
[12:49] <tiewire> This happened to me before as well and it turned out that I had to reset the CMOS by powering up while holding down the insert key
[12:49] <Sa1> I am in Ubuntu
[12:49] <tiewire> Unfortunately, that's not working this time :-(
[12:49] <Sa1> shall i give you my output of fdisk -l
[12:49] <Sa1> ?
[12:50] <grp> tiewire... you can download an image from www.ubuntu.com
[12:50] <grp> and burn it to a CD
[12:50] <grp> you don't need to destroy any data
[12:51] <grp> the CD will boot without modifying your hard disk
[12:51] <Janeux> oney: search in the "synaptic Package Manager" for Openssh
[12:51] <grp> and you can also try to see if you hard disk still have the data
[12:51] <Sa1> kreisner... you there?
[12:51] <kreiszner_> ;Sal yes  and type less /etc/fstab
[12:51] <tiewire> It never gets far enough to boot from cd
[12:51] <Oney> Janeux, did that right before you said it and found it; it said OpenSSH Client was already installed? I went ahead and installed OpenSSH Server...
[12:51] <microwaver> Hello, problems with samba, the windows machine maps my shares but  but the windows machine always comes whining about credentials
[12:51] <Stavroulis> ppl, is there any LAN instant messenger which runs both on Linux and Win?
[12:51] <tiewire> the screen stays black - no bios, no grub, nothing
[12:52] <balkian> Stavroulis, have you tried zeroconf/bonjour?
[12:52] <Sa1> ﻿I have a problem after installing gfxboot... I think i installed grub in an incorrect way and one of my windows drives is not mounting... can any experts help?
[12:52] <microwaver> Stavroulis, quick google : http://www.filedudes.com/Akeni_LAN_Messenger__Instant_Messaging_-download-11597.html
[12:52] <Sa1> this drive has a lot of data of mine which I can afford to lose
[12:52] <saint-takeshi> Stavroulis: Hamachi has some IM features....but it's meant more for VPN stuff
[12:52] <Sa1> kindly help
[12:53] <kreiszner_> Sal yes  and type less /etc/fstab
[12:53] <Stavroulis> thanks guys, i'll check these right now ;)
[12:53] <Janeux> oney: ok, install the server in the machine you want to connect to and then the client in the machine you want to connect from
[12:53] <Sa1> ok sure kreisner
[12:53] <zishan> Hey guys
[12:54] <tiewire> Stavroulis, have you looked at OpenFire from Jive software?
[12:54] <zishan> I just started using Ubuntu... and i have a question which i bet most of you have had
[12:54] <Stavroulis> tiewire: nope
[12:54] <Sa1> ok here's my fstab
[12:54] <Sa1> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[12:54] <Sa1> #
[12:54] <Sa1> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[12:54] <Sa1> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[12:54] <Sa1> # /dev/sda5
[12:54] <Sa1> UUID=a7dcfb96-aead-40d9-85d4-d1f5646be556 /               ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:54] <FloodBot1> Sa1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:54] <balkian> zishan: is that, what's the meaning of life?
[12:54] <zishan> im using a inspiron 1420 and when i run ubuntu... it cannot run my wireless
[12:54] <balkian> *without comma :D
[12:55] <tiewire> It's java based, super easy to setup
[12:55] <Janeux> oney: you can make ssh connections easily from nautilus or browsers as firefox or from the terminal
[12:55] <Oney> Janeux, I need to connect FROM this machine.
[12:55] <Oney> From Ubuntu to my iPhone.
[12:55] <Guest28360> akj
[12:55] <Oney> How can I connect from Firefox?
[12:55] <Janeux> oney: ok, and where do you wanna connect to?
[12:55] <Oney> Janeux, to my iPhone
[12:56] <zishan> the wireless is java based?
[12:56] <saint-takeshi> zishan: have you checked the "restricted drivers" thingy?
[12:57] <Janeux> oney: which ip address the iphone have, how  is it connected to the machine?
[12:57] <kreiszner_> Sal since this is a high trafic area sending large amts of information isn't going to work.
[12:57] <Janeux> oney: just tell you I dont know much about the iphone
[12:57] <proximas> how can i create a directory in emacs dired mode?
[12:57] <kreiszner_> but send me the first line of fdisk -l
[12:57] <Oney> JanC, IP address is 192.168.1.114 and it's not connected to the machine just connected through the same network.
[12:57] <Oney> Janeux, *
[12:57] <Sa1> ok
[12:58] <Oney> Janeux, the iPhone with OpenSSH installed onto it is just like any other wireless device connecting over SSH.
[12:58] <Sa1> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
[12:59] <DistroJockey> microwaver, are you connecting from your Windows PC using credentials that your Ubuntu PC knows about?
[12:59] <monsieurledan> hello! having problems with hostname on ubuntu server. been following http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver-p3 and am getting "-bash: /etc/hostname: Permission denied" when I enter the command sudo echo ctwfiles.ctwnet.local > /etc/hostname
[12:59] <kreiszner_> Sal sorry second line
[12:59] <cemunal> hi
[12:59] <Sa1> :) ok
[12:59] <monsieurledan> I tried working around it by editing /etc/hosts so that the top line reads "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ctwfiles.ctwnet.local" but that hasn't worked either
[13:00] <microwaver> DistroJockey, I rightclick on the share, and connect with the credentials my ubuntuxox knows abouuuuuuuuuuuu
[13:00] <hexdude> hello
[13:00] <Sa1> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[13:00] <Oney> So Janeux, any ideas?
[13:00] <Janeux> oney: so go into your browser and enter ss://iphone_ipaddress
[13:00] <DistroJockey> microwaver, LDAP ?
[13:00] <Janeux> sorry ssh://ip
[13:00] <Oney> ah ok
[13:01] <magnetron> !hi | hexdude
[13:01] <amenado> monsieurledan-> what is the error you are getting?
[13:01] <legend2440> !hostname | monsieurledan
[13:01] <Palme> #ubuntu_de
[13:02] <Oney> Janeux, "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (ssh) isn't associated with any program."
[13:02] <microwaver> DistroJockey, how do you mean?
[13:02] <hexdude> :) does anyone use pidgin? iirc I got an update for it this morning, but pidgin -v shows I don't have the most recent version
[13:02] <monsieurledan> thanks ubottu, but i have no gui :P i'll give it a go. amenado, the error i'm getting is "-bash: /etc/hostname: Permission denied"
[13:02] <Janeux> oney: try in nautilus
[13:02] <saint-takeshi> Oney: try https instead of ssh?
[13:03] <saint-takeshi> Oney: different names for the same thing
[13:03] <amenado> monsieurledan-> paste your /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[13:03] <DistroJockey> microwaver, from windows, I would try and connect using the IP of the host and a local username and password. e.g.  192.168.1.1\username    and then that local account's password
[13:03] <Palme> can anyone say me: where I can download the folder /etc/apache2?
[13:04] <Oney> saint-takeshi, https just gives me page load error. Janeux, I don'
[13:04] <DistroJockey> microwaver, I may be wrong, but worth a try :)
[13:04] <Oney> Janeux, I don't think I have nautilus installed.*
[13:04] <ikonia> Palme: that folder is created when you install apache
[13:04] <saint-takeshi> Oney: no nautilus? are you using gnome?
[13:04] <monsieurledan> i've just run a restart to make sure i've done the right thing...
[13:04] <kito_> aea
[13:05] <Janeux> oney: yes u have, just open you home folder and type ssh://ip in the address bar
[13:05] <Palme> I try it. but they don't create this folder :(
[13:05] <Oney> Sor saint-takeshi & Janeux; new to Linux if you can't tell.
[13:05] <ikonia> Palme: how did you install apache2 ?
[13:05] <Palme> apt-get install apache2
[13:05] <kito_> lol
[13:06] <Janeux> oney:its ok go to "Places" or open any folder you have
[13:06] <xorand> i have a problem with Kate on ubuntu 8.  The console of kate is inactive.  If I type my code in the editor and save the file, I can't use the console window below to issue commands because it's greyed out.  How can I fix this?
[13:06] <ikonia> Palme: and is apache2 installed ?
[13:06] <grp> you probably forgot "sudo apt-get ....
[13:06] <Oney> It's timing out when attempting to login Janeux.
[13:06] <grp> hello Oney
[13:06] <DistroJockey> xorand, Kate doesn't come with Ubuntu
[13:06] <Oney> Janeux, will it prompt for username and password or do I have to include that in the address?
[13:06] <Oney> hey grp.
[13:06] <microwaver> DistroJockey, you mean \\<ip>\<username>
[13:06] <grp> there are many forums for linux, don't worry
[13:07] <Oney> Like ssh://ip/username:passworfd
[13:07] <kito_> kate work on kurumin ng
[13:07] <monsieurledan> right.... i'm now getting the initial boot loading as "Ubuntu 8.04 ctwfiles.ctwnet.local tty1" then ctwfiles.ctwnet.local login: ... so success! however my keyboard apparently isn't working, i can't type anything... rebooting again
[13:07] <xorand> DistroJockey, I know that.  It is in the repo tho
[13:07] <grp> it takes a while, but then you love it
[13:07] <grp> because when you know you can do things
[13:07] <grp> not like in Winblows, that you never can improve your work
[13:07] <DistroJockey> microwaver, no, as a username, use <ip>\<username>
[13:07] <Janeux> oney: the user and password is your default ubuntu user and passw
[13:07] <grp> I personally prefer Ubuntu
[13:07] <Oney> I'm in.
[13:07] <Oney> Janeux, not on the iPhone. :-P
[13:08] <DrLame> If I put a new hdd into my computer, is there any way to take my entire linux hdd and dump it onto the blank hdd keeping linux totally intact?
[13:08] <microwaver> DistroJockey, ah right.
[13:08] <Janeux> oney: ﻿have a look in this website, http://www.fsckin.com/2007/09/23/how-to-mount-your-iphone-filesystem-on-your-desktop-in-ubuntu/
[13:08] <grp> Oney, does it work like a memory stick?
[13:08] <Palme> apache2 is installed
[13:09] <Oney> Yeah it's not letting me create directories in this file browser. :-(
[13:09] <zishan> hey guys, do any of you know how i can get + install bcfwcutter?
[13:09] <saint-takeshi> Oney: that's probably a permissions thing
[13:09] <Palme> normaly it must create this folder, but it doesnt do that
[13:09] <grp> may be is mounted as read-only?
[13:09] <DistroJockey> !broadcom | zishan
[13:10] <microwaver> DistroJockey, tried it too. but credentials could not be deleted
[13:10] <amenado> DrLame-> you can not use the same running system to copy itself bit for bit..use livecd and do a dd of old into new
[13:10] <grp> the new Ubuntu works quite well with Broadcom
[13:10] <XxJeNnYsTyLeZxX> hey guys... i´m jenny from germany.. i have many problems with this system.. because why i can download..things that i want.. like msn messenger or something like that..
[13:10] <xaustenx> is there a way to fix graphics problems (i.e. textures not rendering) even when i have the most current drivers installed for my card?
[13:10] <DrLame> amenado: dd?
[13:10] <perpetualrabbit> Hello people. I desperately need an old "edgy" repository for an old server. I have no time to upgrade it right now, but I need to install netcdf on it.
[13:11] <amenado> DrLame-> disk dump,  man dd please
[13:11] <DrLame> thanks
[13:11] <legend2440> zishan: in synaptic there is package called   bcm43xx-fwcutter
[13:11] <spoonwizard> Hi there, I have a problem with my NAT, I assigned 5 IP addresses to my external NIC and one IP for my internal NIC, The external has the following IP's: 196.211.153.122, 196.211.153.123, 196.211.153.124, 196.211.153.125 and 196.211.153.126. The internal IP is 192.168.0.210, now according to my knowledge you are supposed to be able to ping any of those IP addresses. We have a server on the internal network that uses the IP 192.168.0.12, gateway 19
[13:11] <spoonwizard> 2.168.0.3 and DNS is 10.62.26.20 with a external IP of 196.211.188.125, you will be able to see that if you follow this link http://www.eldocoaches.co.za then click on the link. I have to change that external IP to 196.211.153.125 and then use the linux firewall to NAT it to 192.168.0.12, any help?
[13:11] <DistroJockey> microwaver, I guess it's a samba server issue, of which I know very little about sorry
[13:11] <perpetualrabbit> Why is the edgy repository not simply frozen instead of completely off the face of the earth??
[13:11] <ikonia> Palme: please do "apache2 -v" and show me the output
[13:11] <zishan> I have the latest one, but my WL and Graphics are not working (the enabled box is checked) but i'm not worried about the graphics
[13:11] <microwaver> DistroJockey, no problem
[13:12] <microwaver> DistroJockey, it's a windows thingy I'd say, he always come whining about credentials that can't be deleted
[13:12] <xaustenx> i was just wondering, it's kind of annoying when i'm trying to play Eve and half my ship isn't rendered :P
[13:12] <saint-takeshi> XxJeNnYsTyLeXxX: because MSN messenger isn't available for linux, you have to use a different client such as Pidgin or aMSN
[13:12] <monsieurledan> ha! success! thank you ubottu and amenado! hostname and hostname -f are now outputting the same value as the howto describes.
[13:12] <amenado> monsieurledan-> congrats
[13:12] <microwaver> !credentials
[13:12] <DistroJockey> microwaver, can you give an exact error message? (not seen a can't be deleted one before)
[13:13] <Palme> Ikonia: I have now the folder with this commando: apt-get install --reinstall apache2.2-common
[13:13] <ikonia> Palme: ok, so apache wasn't installed
[13:13] <Palme> but now I need apache2.conf
[13:13] <ikonia> Palme: looks to me like you have deleted /etc/apache2
[13:13] <Palme> yeah
[13:13] <Palme> but now its here
[13:13] <ikonia> Palme: is that what you did ?
[13:13] <microwaver> DistroJockey, existing set of credentials could not e deleted operation could not be completed
[13:13] <Palme> yes
[13:13] <ikonia> Palme: why didn't you saw that then ?
[13:13] <Oney> saint-takeshi, it is, and Janeux, that method worked. =)
[13:14] <jonathan_> moin
[13:14] <monsieurledan> oh, wait, it was legend2440 that called up the hostname procedure from the bot :P cheers!
[13:14] <ikonia> Palme: rather than "I have installed apache and /etc/apache2 is not there"
[13:14] <perpetualrabbit> People, where can I find an edgy repository?
[13:14] <jonathan_> im german
[13:14] <Palme> yeah because it's don't create me this folder
[13:14] <DistroJockey> microwaver, the is from the Windows box
[13:14] <DistroJockey> ?
[13:14] <jonathan_> where you
[13:14] <ikonia> Palme: it did create the folder, you deleted it
[13:14] <Palme> but after this command he did it
[13:14] <Palme> no I deleted it
[13:14] <Palme> and now he create it
[13:14] <tech0007> !de | jonathan_
[13:15] <ikonia> Palme: yes YOU deleted it,
[13:15] <microwaver> DistroJockey, yes indeed, xp one
[13:15] <Janeux> oney: niiice :)
[13:16] <Palme> ikonia: I deleted the folder yesterday. Apache don't work. today I get the folder back. But now I need apache2.conf
[13:16] <ikonia> Palme: you need to re-install apache
[13:17] <ikonia> Palme: open synaptic find the apache2 package and mark for "re-install"
[13:17] <Palme> ok wait I try it
[13:17] <icewaterman> will pidgin 2.4.3 be backported to hardy so that icq works again? or will i have to look for another distro?
[13:17] <DJones> !icqbug | icewaterman
[13:17] <perpetualrabbit> Hello people. I desperately need an old "edgy" repository for an old server. I have no time to upgrade it right now, but I need to install netcdf on it.
[13:17] <perpetualrabbit> Why is the edgy repository not simply frozen instead of completely off the face of the earth??
[13:17] <perpetualrabbit> People, where can I find an edgy repository?
[13:17] <ikonia> icewaterman: it's in process
[13:17] <icewaterman> ah ok
[13:18] <tech0007> !repeat | perpetualrabbit
[13:18] <tzd> icewaterman: if you can't wait install it from source
[13:18] <DistroJockey> microwaver, only thing I found that may help is:  http://www.delphifaq.com/faq/f573.shtml
[13:18] <ikonia> tzd: no
[13:18] <tzd> ikonia: really why not?
[13:18] <perpetualrabbit> !patience
[13:18] <icewaterman> tzd: sad thing is: because of this i have to use windows atm
[13:18] <icewaterman> ...
[13:18] <perpetualrabbit> !patience
[13:18] <ikonia> tzd: is pidgin is linked into things like gnome - breaking the package manager dependencies for pidgin isn't the best idea
[13:19] <tech0007> tzd: try joining #pidgin
[13:19] <tzd> ikonia: hmm but i installed it from source on kubuntu... so was that a bad idea then?
[13:19] <ikonia> tzd: I wouldn't recommend it
[13:20] <Palme> ikonia: where I find sypnatic =/ sry me noob
[13:20] <tzd> ikonia: ah ok.. well as nothing messes up I'll be alright :)
[13:20] <ikonia> Palme: system -> administration menu
[13:20] <microwaver> DistroJockey, thanks, seemed logicakl, but didn't solve problem
[13:20] <ikonia> tzd: it will mess up when you start getting updates from ubuntu that are linked to pidgin dependencies
[13:20] <Palme> ikonia: thx =)
[13:21] <DJones> perpetualrabbit: Ubuntu Edgy reached its end of life in April 2008 after 18 months, maybe thats why you're not picking it up in the normal repositories, you could look at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ to see if that helps
[13:21] <tzd> ikonia: gosh, that's not good at all. Is there an easy way to uninstall it and the used packets?
[13:21] <microwaver> DistroJockey, bye bye network shares :P
[13:22] <DistroJockey> microwaver, that's all I got atm, sorry.
[13:22] <ikonia> tzd: no, as you've overwritten stuff now
[13:22] <microwaver> DistroJockey, But I think they're still in my logon scrips :p
[13:22] <microwaver> DistroJockey, lol, it would all been unnecessary if I had an external hdd with 15 gig :p
[13:22] <Palme> ikonia: same Problem: "Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: No such file or directory"
[13:22] <tzd> ikonia: ah ok, well worst thing that could happen is that i need to reinstall
[13:22] <DistroJockey> microwaver, you could just disconnect drives using the GUI I guess
[13:22] <ikonia> Palme: and you marked it for re-install ?
[13:23] <ikonia> tzd: exactly
[13:23] <Palme> Ikonia: yes
[13:23] <ikonia> Palme: remove the package then
[13:23] <microwaver> DistroJockey,  the net use * delete ;)
[13:23] <ikonia> Palme: then re-install it
[13:23] <ikonia> Palme: or touch an empty file
[13:23] <saint-takeshi> Palme: gksu gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[13:23] <doktoreas> any nsis user for a quick question?
[13:23] <ikonia> doktoreas: just ask it
[13:24] <doktoreas> hi ikonia
[13:24] <zeroC> hi there, what is the console-kit-daemon
[13:24] <zeroC> ?
[13:24] <Palme> saint-takeshi: httpd (no pid file) not running
[13:24] <Palme> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[13:24] <Palme> Unable to open logs
[13:24] <doktoreas> I downloaded the umenu source code from launchpad to add some setup for other application
[13:24] <ikonia> Palme: thats fine
[13:24] <doktoreas> I need just a starting point on it
[13:25] <ikonia> doktoreas: untar it and read the readme
[13:25] <Palme> is that?
[13:25] <DistroJockey> microwaver, may I PM you?
[13:26] <arys> I need help with mdadm (software raid device management). Is there anyone who can help me?
[13:27] <even> anyone here is dev of ufw?
[13:27] <ikonia> arys: ask the question
[13:27] <microwaver> DistroJockey,  sure
[13:27] <tech0007> !ask
[13:27] <doktoreas> ikonia: I have read some tutorial on nsis but don't understand where umenu place the links for set files
[13:27] <iiighost_> nick iiighost
[13:27] <ikonia> doktoreas: read the readme in the tar file
[13:27] <patrik> Hi I'm trying to get OpenSWAN running under ubuntu. But I'm wondering how to get pluto installed. Is there an extra package I need to install?
[13:28] <arys> I already set up raid5 with three hard disks as /dev/md0. I turned on the machine without knowing that 2 of the 3 disks were disconnected. Now the /dev/md0 won't start
[13:28] <arys> When I reconnected the 2 other devices /dev/md0 won't be active anymore
[13:29] <ikonia> arys: yup, so you need to re-add them
[13:29] <arys> What is the safest way to rebuild/reassemble the /dev/md0
[13:29] <doktoreas> ikonia: there's no README file just a INSTRUCTION that gives no hint
[13:29] <ikonia> doktoreas: so what exactly do you want to know
[13:29] <veo-d2> Hello
[13:29] <DASPRiD> hellno
[13:29] <doktoreas> ikonia: adding an other application setup, other then firefox
[13:30] <doktoreas> *another
[13:30] <ikonia> doktoreas: to what ?
[13:30] <DistroJockey> microwaver, guess you aren't registered, So I can't PM.
[13:30] <Palme> ikonia: I have reinstall it. but it doesn't create apache2.conf
[13:30] <arys> ikonia: when i do mdadm --detail --scan it says the device is not active
[13:30] <doktoreas> to be installable from the umenu
[13:30] <pavs> hi, I have ubuntu installed in one of my system, which I customized a great deal to my own liking. i would like to know if it's possible for me to to use this installed system as some kind of image with a live cd so that I can take around and install it in any computer i want from the cd?
[13:30] <Kenny> hello, where do i get drivers for my hardware after installing ubuntu?
[13:30] <ikonia> arys: mdadm --manage /dev/m0 --add /dev/sda1 (for example)
[13:30] <ikonia> arys: that will re-add /dev/sda1
[13:30] <veo-d2> Just a question, did anyone could get a webhosting control panel to work with lighttpd(fast-cgi_php5) with ubuntu server?
[13:30] <arys> ikonia: So when i add it it will not lose data? I will try. Thanks.. Will try now...
[13:31] <ikonia> Palme: remove the pacakge, delete /etc/apache2 then re-install
[13:31] <ikonia> arys: nah, your not "building" an array - your managing an existing array
[13:31] <ikonia> arys: if you built an array - you'd lose the data
[13:31] <patrik> I seem to have no ipsec support in the kernel. How do I add this?
[13:31] <arys> ikonia: ok... will try now
[13:31] <ikonia> arys: the wording is not obvious
[13:31] <arys> ikonia: Thanks..
[13:31] <hunzikea> my kernel list in /boot/grub/menu.lst is not updated automatically anymore, does somebody have an idea why that could be? I had the 2.6.24-19 image installed, but it always booted the 2.6.24-17 kernel
[13:32] <jstrake> Hello, just installed Ubuntu 8.04.  Install went fine.  But need to know how to login as 'root.'
[13:32] <jstrake> Newbie...
[13:32] <patrik> jstrake: sudo -s
[13:33] <patrik> jstrake: and then enter your user password
[13:33] <arys> ikonia:  Update: When I try to manage and add I get this message .... mdadm: cannot get array info for /dev/md0
[13:33] <jstrake> sorry, I'm using the gnome GUI, where do I enter that info?
[13:33] <veo-d2> is there a channel for webserver related question with ubuntu ?
[13:33] <jstrake> (Thanks)
[13:33] <ikonia> arys: you need to start the array as degraded first
[13:33] <DJones> hunzikea: Just a thought, when I get a kernel update, because I've made changes to menu.lst I get an option to keep my own file, or to use the package maintainers version, do you get that? and if so do you retain your own, I made that mistake first time and had to manually update the file for the new kernel
[13:33] <ikonia> arys: or, you could just reboot with the disks connected and it will do it all for you
[13:34] <hunzikea> DJones: possible that that's what happened. can i tell ubuntu to take care of the file again in the future?
[13:34] <arys> ikonia: I already rebooted with all the disks connected.
[13:35] <ikonia> arys: start the array and re-add them then
[13:35] <jstrake> patrik, are you still with me?  I opened the terminal and ...  hold on, checking.
[13:35] <DJones> hunzikea: i ended up just using the package maintainers and modifying as necessary, it ended up as less work, it does have options to merge the files, but does say that its experimental so could cause problems
[13:35] <arys> ikonia: Pardon me but How do you start it? Safely? :-)
[13:36] <hunzikea> DJones: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124598 might help. thanks for your hint
[13:36] <patrik> jstrake: But you don't need to be root for normal GUI stuff
[13:36] <ikonia> arys: try "mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --run"
[13:36] <DJones> hunzikea: your welcome
[13:36] <jstrake> okay, was able to perform sudo -s command.  But didn't solve my problem.
[13:36] <perpetualrabbit> DJones: Thanks, that's where it's at.
[13:36] <arys> ikonia: Ok, will try...
[13:36] <jstrake> I'm not able to copy files into var/www/
[13:37] <jstrake> Tells me I don't have permission...
[13:37] <patrik> jstrake: if you type sudo -s you only become root in the terminal window
[13:37] <arys> ikonia: I get this message: mdadm: failed to run array /dev/md0: Input/output error
[13:38] <jstrake> patrik, Makes sense.  So how do I become root in order to copy files into /www/
[13:38] <jstrake> ?
[13:38] <ikonia> arys: check the disks are all visable - and they are marked as raid-autodetect partitions
[13:38] <ikonia> jstrake: just use sudo
[13:38] <xgermx> can anyone help me set Dolphin as the default file manager in Gnome?
[13:38] <jstrake> okay.  Where do I make that switch?
[13:38] <ikonia> sudo cp source dest
[13:39] <jstrake> patrik, or how do I 'use sudo?'
[13:39] <arys> ikonia:  All three disk are detected as Linux raid autodetect. I used sudo fdisk -l
[13:40] <ikonia> arys: you may have to mark those disks as "fail" then then re-add them, I don't think you should, but you may have to, the IO error is basiclly saying there is not enough disks to start the array
[13:40] <quio> Hello.  I upgraded my ubuntu last night to hardy and now I can't get my wireless to connect.  Can someone lend me a hand in figuring this out?
[13:41] <arys> ikonia:  The problem was that there were data written on one of the disks while the other 2 were disconnected...
[13:42] <ikonia> arys: how did that array start up with only one disk ?
[13:42] <Freeaqingme> I want to recursively delete all .svn folders
[13:42] <Freeaqingme> How do I do that best?
[13:42] <arys> ikonia: I had no idea... Or maybe the system was just writing on the mounted directory?
[13:42] <g33k> hi, any changelog for Ubuntu 8.04.1 ?
[13:43] <ikonia> arys: thats more plauseable, a raid5 array should not start with 1 disk
[13:43] <ikonia> arys: however, I'm afraid I need to leave now
[13:43] <arys> ikonia: Ok thanks for the help...
[13:43] <g33k> does someone have changelog http link for Ubuntu 8.04.1 ?
[13:44] <arys> Question:  Is it safe to create a new md device with 2 of 3 disks in a raid5 setup and then add a new disk?
[13:44] <jstrake> I can't get permission to copy files into /var/www/.  Can't login as root, don't know how to use sudo.  Any suggestions?
[13:44] <psych> hi
[13:45] <tech0007> g33k: try this https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-July/000112.html
[13:45] <quio> Hello.  I updated my system last night to Ubuntu hardy 8.4  Now my wireless won't connect.  I  tried reinstalling the windows drivers but it still won't connect.  Any ideas please?
[13:46] <psych> do ubuntu repositories have the newer flash-player-plugin ?? the one who fixed the bug of nowindow (blank screen) animations ?
[13:46] <tech0007> psych: only in II repo
[13:46] <jtickner1> Hi all
[13:46] <psych> tech0007, how can i know if ive the II repo setted up ?
[13:47] <tech0007> psych: you should not have it, coz its still alpha. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[13:47] <psych> tech0007, hardy heron, stable
[13:48] <g33k> tech0007 thanks for the changelog link
[13:48] <DJones> jstrake: you could try typing "sudo nautilus" in a terminal followed by your user password, and then using that nautilus gui that starts to copy to /var/www/ BUT, beware you could do damage if you move/delete a file by mistake because you're accessing as root, you'd need to close nautilus once you've finished copying so you don't do something as root by mistake afterwards. The safer method would be as ikonia suggested earlier sudo cp /path/to/original
[13:48] <tech0007> psych: if ur willing to try the new flash 10 (beta), download direct from http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/flashplugin-nonfree
[13:49] <psych> tech0007, remove the old one and install this, right
[13:50] <von> Hello
[13:50] <mvinsc> hey... how do i remove frostwire so i can re-install it?
[13:50] <monsieurledan> anyone know why smbpasswd -a would output "Failed to modify password entry for user ctw"? i know for sure i did the password right twice, this log: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/24/%23ubuntu.txt shows <cyka> having it fixed by <danand_> but it took place in a pm :(
[13:50] <berent> how do i install firefox 3 on ubuntu?
[13:51] <nin> hi
[13:51] <matthias___> hi
[13:51] <ObsidianDesire> Have you tried using Synaptic package manager?
[13:51] <tech0007> mvinsc: how did u install it?
[13:51] <nin> by package
[13:51] <mvinsc> the .deb from the frostwire site
[13:51] <nin> عربي ؟
[13:51] <tech0007> berent: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[13:51] <saint-takeshi> berent: you should already have it
[13:51] <monsieurledan> !smbpasswd
[13:51] <von> Some of my CUPS printers are visible in Kate but not in firefox,openoffice,... How to add them?
[13:51] <mvinsc> tech0007: the .deb from the frostwire site
[13:51] <monsieurledan> :(
[13:51] <berent> tech0007 : but that's beta
[13:52] <matthias___> is there anybody who knows about exporting the display to another machine?
[13:52] <saint-takeshi> berent: there isn't a release version of firefox 3 yet
[13:52] <tech0007> mvinsc: sudo dpkg -r frostwire
[13:52] <mvinsc> thanks
[13:52] <tech0007> berent: what version of ubuntu do u have?
[13:53] <saint-takeshi> berent: if you want the new features and shiny, shiny awesomeness, use the beta...it's stable, they've released it for windows and everything
[13:53] <berent> tech0007 : hardy
[13:53] <von> I can't find anything in System Settings -Printers   panel
[13:53] <tech0007> berent: firefox-3.0 is final in hardy
[13:54] <tech0007> berent: read the topic
[13:55] <Flynsarmy> Does aMSN have an inbuilt driver for every webcam or something? Why does webcam work with it when it doesn't work with camorama?
[13:55] <monsieurledan> has anyone else had a problem with smbpasswd creating new users?
[13:55] <saint-takeshi> aMSN has webcam support?
[13:55] <berent> tech0007: but firefox released version 3 in May. and I downloaded a tar.bz2 for linux . should i replace /usr/lib/firefox with this?
[13:56] <monsieurledan> or am I (and some guy called cyka back in 2003) the only person to have experienced this?
[13:56] <Flynsarmy> saint-takeshi, yes.......it always has to my knowledge. custom smeleys too
[13:56] <s0u][ight> hi guys how come transmission in ubuntu works for the same torrent much slower than µtorrent in windows?
[13:56] <matthias___> i tried to export the display to my ubuntu machine - so i ran export DISPLAY=192.168.0.230:0.0 on the server machine and xhost + on my ubuntu machine - but when i start some programm on the server it is waiting some time and then "cannot connect to X server 192.168.0.230:0.0" - are there any logs where i can search for errors??
[13:56] <tech0007> !info firefox-3.0 | berent
[13:56] <monsieurledan> !samba
[13:57] <saint-takeshi> ooft...i thought MSN messenger's webcam protocol was a trade secret or something....i read a year or two back that some dude from a country where reverse-engineering is legal had opened it up and made it available
[13:59] <matthias___> i tried to export the display to my ubuntu machine - so i ran export DISPLAY=192.168.0.230:0.0 on the server machine and xhost + on my ubuntu machine - but when i start some programm on the server it is waiting some time and then "cannot connect to X server 192.168.0.230:0.0" - are there any logs where i can search for errors??
[13:59] <Tux2K8> any suggested audio player for 8.04?
[13:59] <Dr_willis_> matthias___,   if you use 'ssh -X remotebox' you dont need to mess with all this exporting.
[14:00] <tech0007> Tux2K8: i use rhythmbox
[14:01] <Tux2K8> tech0007: well dont likle it , used to use audacious on 7.10 , but on 8.04 is sounds terrible
[14:01] <wdaniels> Flynsarmy, aMSN can use both V4L and V4L2 interfaces, Camorama only V4L
[14:01] <kschultz> Morning guys (east coast USA at least), I'm setting up Ubuntu on my girlfriends laptop for the first time and I'm looking for some opinion on the best way to do it. I'm going to setup a dual boot to let her ease into it. I'm thinking a partition for Ubuntu's /, a partition for Windows XP, and then a shared data partition. Two questions, 1) what file system for the shared data, ext3, ntfs, or fat32? When I was learning the only option w
[14:01] <kschultz> as sharing on fat32 but now we have ntfs3g and there is an ext3 plugin for XP. The partition will have about 60 gbs of data so I'm worried about fat32 fragmenting though the stuff we are talking about is mostly static. And 2) Should I make the data partition /home or should I mount it at something like /home/username/data/? If it is ext3 I think I can make it /home but if it is ntfs or fat32 I think it will screw up stuff because it do
[14:01] <kschultz> esn't support permissions right?
[14:02] <LinuxID10T> 1) fat32
[14:02] <tech0007> kschultz: /home should always be ext3; data partition i'd go for ntfs
[14:03] <tassoman> is there some kind of gifanimator on gnome?
[14:03] <LinuxID10T> tech0007: not ntfs, use fat for maximum interoperablity
[14:03] <LinuxID10T> fat is much better supported in linux, no 3G
[14:03] <kschultz> I've used fat32 before, and it is definately bulletproof. Im a bit warry of NTFS
[14:03] <LinuxID10T> you should be
[14:03] <bazhang> fat32 has file limits size does it not?
[14:04] <kschultz> Thats what I'm not sure about
[14:04] <tassoman> 2gb limit
[14:04] <kschultz> when I did it, I was only sharing a few gb
[14:04] <LinuxID10T> not a big deal
[14:04] <tassoman> and no more 128 gigs for fs
[14:04] <tassoman> i think
[14:04] <LinuxID10T> 2 gig a file
[14:04] <tassoman> yepp
[14:04] <LinuxID10T> but the filesystem can be larger
[14:04] <kschultz> right
[14:04] <tassoman> arr ok
[14:04] <LinuxID10T> go with fat
[14:05] <kschultz> ok then thats where I'm going, thanks guys
[14:05] <LinuxID10T> your welcome
[14:05] <tassoman> is there some friendly gif animator?
[14:05] <LinuxID10T> tassoman: Gimp has one
[14:05] <tassoman> something much friendly than gimp layers
[14:05] <arys> quit
[14:05] <LinuxID10T> not that i can think of
[14:05] <arys> exit
[14:06] <tassoman> LinuxID10T: you mean gimp's animation layers
[14:06] <LinuxID10T> yes
[14:06] <tassoman> I can't feel friendly :P
[14:06] <LinuxID10T> you could use stopmotion
[14:06] <tassoman> hmm is there in apt?
[14:07] <DeeJayTwo> Hi... I have some difficulties adding my xen bridge interface (xenbr1) on Ubuntu 8.04
[14:07] <LinuxID10T> use stopmotion for animation and draw the frames in gimp
[14:07] <karname> how i can full disable update-notificer in 8.04 ?
[14:07] <saint-takeshi> stopmotion's in apt
[14:07] <Phydoux> Sorry, off topic but does anyone here know if PayPal charges for a deposit? Someone wants to pay me via paypal for something I'm selling on Craigslist
[14:07] <saint-takeshi> it comes pre-installed on ubuntustudio
[14:07] <LinuxID10T> karname: right click on the update notifier and it is under preferences
[14:08] <bazhang> Phydoux, perhaps check the paypal faq or forums
[14:08] <tassoman> Phydoux: 3.4
[14:08] <LinuxID10T> karname: under updates
[14:08] <Phydoux> tassoman, 3.4%?
[14:08] <tassoman> saint-takeshi: i seem it works with movies as input
[14:09] <sharperguy> Anyone know why resizing my logical ext2 (ie: no journaling) partition doesn't seem to be working? Gparted fails to do it, and resize2fs took a few hours and said it did it but it didnt.
[14:09] <tassoman> Phydoux: yes more news about it on theire website
[14:09] <Phydoux> Thanks. Trying to find it now...
[14:09] <LinuxID10T> sharperguy: try resizing using gparted live cd
[14:09] <karname> LinuxID10T : when i do it , does not disable full , it spend a lot of my bandwith and in system monitor i can see it
[14:10] <sharperguy> LinuxID10T, I'm running the dapper live cd with gparted
[14:10] <LinuxID10T> you could remove it from your boot scripts
[14:10] <adred> hi,,why is when is click home or computer folder i get this error:Nautilus could not create the required folder "/home/adred/bakup/Desktop". can i make a fix for this without making those folders? i don't really need those...pls help
[14:10] <LinuxID10T> sharperguy, just try the gparted live cd it works for me
[14:10] <rbarbo> hello!!
[14:10] <rbarbo> :)
[14:10] <LinuxID10T> it is a small 50mb download
[14:10] <tech0007> karname: try system->preferences->sessions  uncheck update notifier
[14:11] <adred> #why is it when i..sorr for the typo
[14:11] <rbarbo> comunity of ubuntu, i need help :)
[14:11] <sharperguy> LinuxID10T, Well whats the difference? Its still gparted
[14:11] <Jianjun-Kong> hello
[14:11] <rbarbo> I tried many distros, including ubuntu, and i like ubuntu the most..........
[14:11] <LinuxID10T> it has many drivers and many times works when others fail
[14:11] <rbarbo> and id liek to install it, but not all the stuff that ubuntu installs by default, is needed
[14:11] <Jianjun-Kong> rbarbo:good
[14:12] <rbarbo> does alternate install cd give me options to choose, what do i want and what i do not?
[14:12] <sharperguy> LinuxID10T, Hmm, ok then then, I'll give it a go
[14:12] <tassoman> rbarbo: try with gentoo
[14:12] <rbarbo> for instance, i dont need 10 different media players, etc etc
[14:12] <LinuxID10T> rbarbo: uninstall the stuff you dont want then install
[14:12] <LinuxID10T> in the live cd
[14:12] <rbarbo> hum?
[14:12] <dfgas> does linux have the memory memory issues on 32bit? the 4gb limit?
[14:12] <karname> LinuxID10T and tech0007 tanks
[14:12] <rbarbo> you mean delete stuff from ubuntu cd image?
[14:13] <bazhang> rbarbo, go for minimal installer then
[14:13] <tassoman> rbarbo: aptitude remove --purge whatyoudontneed
[14:13] <ProwL> rbarbo: you could use the alternate install cd to do a 'minimal install' and then hand select the rest once its installed.
[14:13] <rbarbo> ProwL, thats my point of question! thanks
[14:13] <LinuxID10T> no when you boot the live cd if you remove what you dont want it will not be installed to the harddrive
[14:13] <TuxOne> hello there
[14:13] <bazhang> !minimal
[14:13] <tassoman> rbarbo: full installation is good for better configuration
[14:13] <iiighost> Hello
[14:13] <TuxOne> my pc has an onboard lspci
[14:13] <TuxOne> oops
[14:14] <tassoman> rbarbo: ubuntu doesn't come out to be minimal
[14:14] <rbarbo> tassoman.......... i have a good comp
[14:14] <tassoman> rbarbo: each piece of software is a brick for another
[14:14] <LinuxID10T> rbarbo: what do you not want
[14:14] <rbarbo> i dont want 10 dfferent media players
[14:14] <rbarbo> and so on.........
[14:14] <rbarbo> 10 text editors
[14:14] <tassoman> rbarbo: have you a 2 gigs hd?
[14:14] <LinuxID10T> there is only 2 media players one video and one audio
[14:15] <tech0007> rbarbo: try bazhang's suggestion...go for minimal iso
[14:15] <rbarbo> i have a few TB of disc
[14:15] <tassoman> he means vim gedit emacs nano and so on
[14:15] <LinuxID10T> and text editors there is two cli and one gui
[14:15] <bazhang> only 9 MB
[14:15] <tassoman> i think gedit isn't more than 1meg
[14:15] <TuxOne> my pc has an onboard 82865G Intel Graphics card, which driver is best for me: is it "intel" or "i810"?
[14:15] <tassoman> ....
[14:15] <rbarbo> i really like to decide myself, what i want, i dont like default ubuntu media players. id use VLC and i have to find some good music player
[14:15] <LinuxID10T> i810 is not in 8.04
[14:15] <LinuxID10T> i am using one right now
[14:16] <alnokta2> is there a way so that users (other than root) cannot view files in /var/www while it is still viewable in web browser?
[14:16] <tassoman> rbarbo: if you want to decide yourself you should install gentoo... trustme
[14:16] <TuxOne> ok
[14:16] <rbarbo> tassoman........ im not really a good bug fixer or coder
[14:16] <gordonjcp> alnokta2: make it only owned by www-data, and only readable by owner
[14:16] <tech0007> TuxOne: i810
[14:16] <bazhang> tassoman, now *that* is offtopic
[14:16] <rbarbo> ubuntu ahs good hardware support i like tat
[14:17] <kongov1> Hello,everyone.
[14:17] <xaustenx_> heya
[14:17] <rbarbo> Im actually having linux installed instead of windows
[14:17] <LinuxID10T> hello
[14:17] <rbarbo> im fed up with windows and its costs
[14:17] <rbarbo> i like open, free software.
[14:17] <xaustenx_> my windows crashes, switched to linux and haven't been back
[14:17] <kongov1> Good
[14:17] <axisys> how do I upgrade flash to 10 beta 2 ?
[14:17] <cap> what's "windows"..?
[14:17] <axisys> or should I wait until it is available thru update?
[14:18] <alnokta2> gordonjcp, so chown -R www-data folder ?
[14:18] <xaustenx_> windows is a scary place you should never go
[14:18] <cap> oh, ok
[14:18] <rbarbo> cap: i was there for 12 years.
[14:18] <LinuxID10T> axisys you can go to adobe's websight and download it
[14:18] <temoto-work> Why on my local box apt-get a<TAB> expands to auto, but on ssh Ubuntu 8.04 server not?
[14:18] <rbarbo> happy to eb on linux now.
[14:18] <tech0007> i''ve ubuntu at home, i use M$ at work
[14:18] <rbarbo> its much much more stable
[14:18] <kongov1> Open source, free software.
[14:18] <axisys> LinuxID10T: should I rather wait?
[14:18] <LinuxID10T> yes
[14:18] <axisys> LinuxID10T: for the update?
[14:19] <LinuxID10T> it is not very stable with ff3
[14:19] <axisys> LinuxID10T: ok. thnx
[14:19] <xaustenx_> i'm by no means a linux expert, but once you get the learning curve out of the way it's awesome
[14:19] <LinuxID10T> xaustenx_: what learning curve :-D
[14:20] <gordonjcp> alnokta2: yes, but be very very careful
[14:20] <xaustenx_> well switching from windows to linux :P
[14:20] <rbarbo> wow
[14:20] <rbarbo> ffs
[14:20] <TuxOne> i mistakenly remove the driver for my intel vga..how can i reinstall it?
[14:20] <rbarbo> 10 metres from my house
[14:20] <berent> I am unable to install any addon to firefox .It says upgrade it. although i have firefox 3 beta 5
[14:20] <rbarbo> major lightening strike
[14:20] <rbarbo> omg
[14:20] <rbarbo> :D
[14:20] <FloodBot1> rbarbo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <TuxOne> I 'm using Ubuntu 8.04
[14:20] <gordonjcp> alnokta2: remember that the directories must have execute permission
[14:20] <axisys> TuxOne: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[14:20] <rbarbo> sorry for using enter too much......... bad habits
[14:20] <ProwL> rbarbo: what I did for my minimal installation, was use the 'alternate install' cd, and followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems for a reference.
[14:20] <alnokta2> gordonjcp, okay thank you.
[14:21] <gordonjcp> alnokta2: if you're at all unsure, copy the directory before you start
[14:21] <rbarbo> okay
[14:21] <rbarbo> i have another question........ im really confused about which drivers to use... nvidia official drivers, or community drivers
[14:21] <rbarbo> for my geforece ti4400 128
[14:21] <berent> I am unable to install any addon to firefox .It says upgrade it. although i have firefox 3 beta 5
[14:21] <alnokta2> ah
[14:21] <gordonjcp> berent: that's an old version
[14:22] <rbarbo> berent, upgrade firefox lol
[14:22] <berent> rbarbo: how?
[14:22] <rbarbo> uhm
[14:22] <rbarbo> sudo apt-get install firefox
[14:22] <xaustenx_> rbarbo which drivers do you use?
[14:22] <rbarbo> it will install newer
[14:23] <rbarbo> xaustenx_ atm nvidia official, but im on kubuntu with kde4, i dislike it, im going back to ubuntu
[14:23] <DASPRiD> when will we get compiz 0.7.6?
[14:24] <xaustenx_> i'm just curious because the official ones don't render some of the graphics for my card and i've been looking for a fix
[14:24] <rbarbo> is anyone up to give me tutorial about booting ubuntu from usb stick?
[14:24] <alnokta2> gordonjcp, what is this in numbers? drwx--x--x
[14:24] <W8TAH> hi folks - i installed xdm and it is forcing me to gnome, instead of fluxbox -- how do i change the setup so that fluxbox starts
[14:24] <icewaterman>  alnokta2 711
[14:24] <xaustenx_> rbarbo: change the boot sequence to boot from usb device in the boot menu, or was there more to that question?
[14:24] <rbarbo> xaustenx_ it was, actually... hwo to make usb bootable :)
[14:25] <alnokta2> thx icewaterman
[14:25] <rbarbo> im noob, im really sorry, only good with wins.
[14:25] <rbarbo> unfortunately !!!!!!!!!
[14:25] <icewaterman> alnokta2: however you see man chmod you can as well chmod u+rwxg+xo+x
[14:25] <xaustenx_> oh haha, i run ubuntu off an external hd
[14:25] <icewaterman> alnokta2: so you do not really need the numbers.
[14:26] <berent> gordonjcp : i am unable to upgrade.  when i do sudo apt-get upgrade firefox it says i have newest version
[14:26] <loopodoopo> whhaaa
[14:26] <alnokta2> ah
[14:26] <loopodoopo> first time, I am sorry :P
[14:26] <gnubie> rbarbo, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html  details
[14:26] <xaustenx_> shut down your computer and when you reboot hit f2 to get into the bios and change your boot sequence to boot from usb device first
[14:26] <icewaterman> alnokta2: uhm, replace the + with a =
[14:26] <tech0007> berent: 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0'
[14:26] <icewaterman> but see man chmod for details
[14:26] <jyoti> rbaro: yeah that link works.
[14:27] <berent> tech0007: i did that. still it is firefox 3 beta5
[14:27] <DASPRiD> there is no backport of compiz 0.7.6 for hardy?
[14:27] <alnokta2> u=rwxg=xo=x
[14:27] <dr_Willis> rbarbo,  depends on eaxctly  what you want to do - check pendrivelinux.com
[14:27] <tech0007> berent: use synaptic
[14:27] <Finiras> is there any way for the system admin to log every single command that a specific user runs on the system via command line?
[14:27] <berent> tech0007: tried that also.
[14:28] <tech0007> berent: uninstall then reinstall firefox-3.0
[14:28] <berent> tech0007: ok let me try that
[14:28] <icewaterman> alnokta2: yes
[14:28] <rbarbo> brb
[14:29] <rbarbo> im getting my usb stick
[14:29] <rbarbo> :)
[14:29] <bazhang> berent, what does firefox --version return
[14:29] <kde_pepo> hi, where can I get help to build packages for (K)Ubuntu? I do not run this distribution, but want to provide packages. Some web based build service would be nice.
[14:29] <xaustenx_> are there any good third part gfx card drivers for ubuntu? these nvidia official ones aren't cutting it for me
[14:29] <tech0007> !ppa | kde_pepo
[14:29] <berent> bazhang: i gave remove command. but when i open the browser at top it is firefox3 beta 5
[14:30] <bazhang> kde_pepo, you want your own repos?
[14:30] <icewaterman> alnokta2: the numbers are easily remembered if you know how it is implemented: its is a binary number each bit a flag and the total number is what you need for chmod. 7 for instance is binary 111 which means all flags (read, write, execute) are set.
[14:30] <ViPER^-> Howdy!
[14:30] <xaustenx_> heya
[14:30] <kde_pepo> bazhang, repos not really required, I could host the .deb on my site.
[14:30] <kde_pepo> thanks tech0007
[14:30] <berent> bazhang, Mozilla Firefox 3.0b5, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org
[14:31] <bazhang> kde_pepo, check the ppa link above
[14:31] <W8TAH> hi folks - i installed xdm and it is forcing me to gnome, instead of fluxbox -- how do i change the setup so that fluxbox starts
[14:31] <bazhang> berent, this is gutsy or hardy
[14:31] <tech0007> berent: paste the output of 'apt-cache policy firefox-3.0' to paste.ubuntu.com
[14:31] <kde_pepo> yep, thanks bazhang
[14:31] <ViPER^-> I got a small problem when trying to compile xbtt. I compiled it yesterday using an svn source but that version didnt work with the tracker software i was going to use so i downloaded a new svn source of xbtt but when i try to run an sudo ./make.sh it sais the command doesnt exist. Why is that?
[14:32] <alnokta2> icewaterman, ah so 7 is maximum, 0 is min?
[14:32] <berent> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24993/
[14:32] <berent> tech0007, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24993/
[14:32] <bazhang> berent, this is gutsy or hardy
[14:32] <Finiras> what console command do I use to view the status of a disc, for example the free space
[14:32] <AndyNH> I just installed WUBI with no apparent problem.  On reboot, however, there is no grub - XP just starts.  I see there is no boot.ini file.  ??
[14:32] <noobuntu> i want to install "kernel sources" i write: apt-get install kernel source 2.6.34 kernel-headers-2.6.24-19-generic  but it says: E: couldnt find package kernel
[14:33] <DASPRiD> for those who are interested, here is a backport of compiz 0.7.6 for hardy: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ubuntu hardy main
[14:33] <Xoferif> hello
[14:33] <temoto-work> Why on my local box apt-get a<TAB> expands to auto, but on ssh Ubuntu 8.04 server not?
[14:33] <berent> bazhang, hardy
[14:33] <Xoferif> I just installed ubuntu recently but I'm unable to find out how to make the sound work, I have a built in ac97 sound card, any help is appreciated
[14:34] <rbarbo> okay
[14:34] <gavi> folks ive been having serrious trouble with gstreamer on my computer...
[14:34] <rbarbo> i found usb stick!
[14:34] <rbarbo> :D
[14:34] <noobuntu> xoferif is it just with headphones or everything?
[14:34] <Xoferif> everything
[14:34] <chouaib> #linuxac
[14:34] <gavi> is there a way i can have ubuntu repair this problem
[14:35] <gavi> when i try to open a video with mplayer it shuts off
[14:35] <xaustenx_> Xofe is that the only sound device you have installed?
[14:36] <Xoferif> well I haven't installed any audio devices
[14:36] <xaustenx_> well i mean
[14:36] <xaustenx_> is that the only sound hardware you have
[14:36] <xaustenx_> as in, you have no other sound card competing with it
[14:36] <jyoti> Xoferif: It works out of the box for me. Though I am on redhat 2.4
[14:36] <tech0007> berent: 'sudo apt-get update'
[14:36] <bazhang> gavi, tried vlc yet?
[14:36] <noobuntu> how can I geth Kernel sources?????
[14:36] <jyoti> Xoferif: I mean the kernel version
[14:36] <Xoferif> yea, just the built in one
[14:37] <xaustenx_> k
[14:37] <Xoferif> im using ubuntu 8.04
[14:37] <weldyss> hi
[14:37] <xaustenx_> i just had this problem, let me dig up the resourced i found that helped me for you
[14:37] <gavi> bazhang, i prefer totem
[14:37] <LinuxID10T> i am listening to music on an ac97 sound card right now
[14:37] <xaustenx_> resources*
[14:37] <Xoferif> alright man, I appreciate it
[14:37] <xaustenx_> np
[14:37] <bazhang> noobuntu, apt-cache search kernel
[14:37] <berent> tech0007 , bazhang: Oh I got the mistake . I hadn't check the recommended/pre-released/ updates in repositories . Now I get 288 packs to update!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
[14:37] <xaustenx_> i'm going to private chat you so i don't have to spam it in here
[14:37] <gavi> i just did a test... if i open the video in the teminal it works.... if i open by clicking on the file in nautalis it currently shows video without audi
[14:38] <gavi> audio
[14:38] <UrTopBoi> Hello all
[14:38] <tech0007> berent: way to go haha\
[14:38] <weldyss> Who use ubutu with ati radeon?
[14:38] <noobuntu> ok thx
[14:38] <bazhang> berent, nice :)
[14:38] <Xoferif> alright
[14:38] <lordnoid> i do weldyss
[14:38] <azariah> Where can I find the file that contains the env variables?
[14:38] <Bruno> hi all i get the following message while booting the ubuntu 8,04 live cd -> (INITRAMfs) [58.146556] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[14:39] <weldyss> I'm with problems with videos... do you too?
[14:39] <UrTopBoi> I am not new to linux but have been out of the game for awhile, I was wondering if ubuntu would run on a laptop with 900mhz 256mb ram?
[14:39] <LinuxID10T> weldyss: what driver are you using
[14:39] <Bruno> followed by several exceptions
[14:39] <weldyss> fglrx
[14:39] <bazhang> UrTopBoi, slowly
[14:39] <lordnoid> wldyss: i have none
[14:39] <tech0007> UrTopBoi: try the livecd first
[14:39] <LinuxID10T> what is the problem
[14:39] <lordnoid> weldyss: wich card?
[14:39] <UrTopBoi> bazhang is there any distro that would work?
[14:40] <noobuntu> but why does it say couldnt find package kernel-source-2.6.24
[14:40] <Kartagis> when I start Printing through System>Administration, it just closes after it starts. when I start it from the console, it gives me 2 screens of errors and dies. i tried uninstalling and re-installing but it still is the same. what to do?
[14:40] <weldyss> xpress 1100, and always run videos this open only in fullscreen..
[14:40] <Finiras> urtopboi: you should look for the netbook version of ubuntu its made for low end laptops
[14:40] <bazhang> UrTopBoi, sure, there are a ton-->in the *buntu family perhaps xubuntu and fluxbuntu
[14:40] <Bruno> this happens only in 1 computer other work ok
[14:40] <DJones> !requirements | UrTopBoi
[14:40] <weldyss> in normal mode nothing images
[14:41] <bazhang> Finiras, netbook is mostly for touchscreens
[14:41] <tech0007> noobuntu: 'sudo apt-get install linux-source'
[14:41] <UrTopBoi> but does it still have the functionality and options that a regular version would offer?
[14:41] <LinuxID10T> have you tried the opensource driver
[14:41] <ftehw> Any ideas why a mutt background is black in xterm but sorta gray in gnome-terminal
[14:41] <LinuxID10T> it has made leaps and bounds
[14:41] <Finiras> i dont think so, none of the netbooks up till now have touchscreens
[14:41] <quio> Can someone please help me get my wireless working.   I have been reading Ubuntu forums and documentation to get it running and cannot figure it out.  It worked before I upgraded to 8.04 hardy.  I know the card works because if I put in an XP hard drive it works right away.  Any suggestions please?
[14:41] <weldyss> I neber don't see this
[14:41] <noobuntu> ok thanks tech
[14:41] <Finiras> bazhang/\
[14:41] <lordnoid> weldyss: well after clean install i just did an upgrade (apt-get upgrade) and after that restricted drivers manager
[14:42] <LinuxID10T> weldyss: is this presistant?
[14:42] <ObsidianDesire> Hey I have the Trust TB-2100 wireless tablet, and i was just wondering where to find the drivers for it?
[14:43] <weldyss> I have compiled all ati drivers again and this problem persists
[14:43] <UrTopBoi> but does xubunu still have the functionality and options that a regular version would offer?
[14:43] <LinuxID10T> compiled?
[14:43] <tech0007> UrTopBoi: yes
[14:43] <lordnoid> weldyss: why not resticted driver manager?
[14:43] <UrTopBoi> thank you guys
[14:43] <LinuxID10T> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose radeon
[14:44] <UrTopBoi> does it also offer the same driver support?
[14:44] <Xpistos> How do I install FF3
[14:44] <weldyss> I tried two forms... restricted driver and open driver...
[14:44] <LinuxID10T> it is the same in both?
[14:44] <Bruno> has anyone had any problems with initramfs while booting ubuntu?
[14:45] <LinuxID10T> if so try another video player
[14:45] <Xpistos> When I look in synaptic it is already installed, but when i run the browser it is ff2
[14:45] <bazhang> !ff3
[14:45] <weldyss> same problems
[14:45] <LinuxID10T> ok try another video player
[14:45] <LinuxID10T> VCL perhaps
[14:45] <LinuxID10T> VLC
[14:45] <Xpistos> I downloaded the tarball from mozilla, but I can't find how to install it
[14:45] <Xpistos> the readme file tells me nothing
[14:45] <tech0007> UrTopBoi: only difference b/w the different flavors are the look and feel
[14:45] <LinuxID10T> don't use the tarball
[14:46] <bazhang> Xpistos, this is gutsy or hardy
[14:46] <LinuxID10T> install from repos
[14:46] <Xpistos> sorry hardy
[14:46] <weldyss> I have use mplayer and vlc
[14:46] <weldyss> kaffeine only in fullscreen
[14:46] <LinuxID10T> weldyss: you there?
[14:46] <LinuxID10T> does it happen for all?
[14:46] <Xpistos> I extracted the files but I am stuck
[14:46] <rbarbo> hello
[14:47] <rbarbo> how to i format usb stick in fat32
[14:47] <bazhang> Xpistos, get from repos
[14:47] <rbarbo> under linux?
[14:47] <LinuxID10T> install gparted and format
[14:47] <carma> hello, I want to NAT my external IP of my website to my internal IP of my network but I have alot of strugling?
[14:47] <Xpistos> Synaptic says I have it installed
[14:47] <Xpistos> but I don't find it
[14:47] <weldyss> is happen for all players
[14:47] <zhaozhou> carma, Hm?
[14:48] <LinuxID10T> if that is the case i cant help you, sorry :-(
[14:48] <bazhang> Xpistos, what does firefox --version return
[14:48] <zhaozhou> carma, You want to make a NAT router?
[14:48] <Xpistos> it says three
[14:49] <Xpistos> but when I do about ff it says 2
[14:49] <carma> the external IP is now 196.211.188.125 and I have to change it to 196.211.153.125 but I can't get the thing to NAT, the internal IP is 192.168.0.12. Look at this site http://www.eldocoaches.co.za and then click on the link, it will work now...
[14:49] <zhaozhou> Xpistos, do 'ls /usr/bin | grep firefox'
[14:49] <carma> Yes, I want to make a NAT router...
[14:49] <zhaozhou> Xpistos, And perhaps 'ls /opt'
[14:50] <zhaozhou> carma, Dedicated NAT server?
[14:50] <weldyss> LinuxID10T ok, thanks.
[14:50] <carma> yes, one that is always on...
[14:50] <Xpistos> ... | grep firefox shows ff1, ff2 and ff3
[14:50] <zhaozhou> Xpistos, what happends if you launch ff3, then?
[14:50] <LinuxID10T> weldyss: for what?
[14:50] <geek_inn2> hey iam getting troubles with pidgin using IRC
[14:50] <geek_inn2> in xp
[14:50] <weldyss> my problem is ver very very strange
[14:50] <geek_inn2> it doesnt start irc network
[14:51] <geek_inn2> first it used to
[14:51] <carma> my route looks like this now in iptables: -A PREROUTING -d 196.211.153.125 -i eth1:3 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8082 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.12
[14:51] <carma> but when I change the link on the website to go to that IP then its not working...
[14:51] <zhaozhou> carma, Easiest way to NAT is to MASQUERADE, but if you have a static IP, it wont matter.
[14:51] <bazhang> geek_inn2, in xp? or ubuntu
[14:51] <Buyydee> I installed an account for a friend of mine who wants to access some files in my home folder via ssh. I want him not to be able to see/access any of my data except for one folder.  How would I do this the most elegant way?
[14:52] <Xpistos> If i type "firefox-3.0" a browser window opens. I go to about help and about firefox and it tells me it is ont 2.0.0.15
[14:52] <quio> Can someone please help me get my wireless working.   I have been reading Ubuntu forums and documentation to get it running and cannot figure it out.  It worked before I upgraded to 8.04 hardy.  I know the card works because if I put in an XP hard drive it works right away.  Any suggestions please?
[14:52] <zhaozhou> Buyydee, You could chmod your files, that way he wont be able to read them.
[14:52] <Loofemmaps> i saw a video of some guy flipping a cube around to go between desktops, what's that called?
[14:52] <zhaozhou> Loofemmaps, compiz.
[14:53] <Loofemmaps> thanks
[14:53] <bazhang> !cube
[14:53] <carma> I have an static IP and masquerade is active but still no luck, you can ping the 196.211.153.125 IP and it works when I NAT it to my laptop which have IIS on, but not when I NAT it to the server.
[14:53] <zhaozhou> Loofemmaps, It's installed by default in ubuntu - *sigh* - so you can enable it in system>preferences>apperance.
[14:53] <Buyydee> zhaozhou: well, yes, but assume I have 30 folders in ~ and would like only one to be readable/accessable. How would I do this?
[14:53] <Loofemmaps> oh, sorry
[14:53] <Loofemmaps> will do
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Loofemmaps Install ccsm  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager Next go to system...pref..advanced desktop effects....  On the first page  put check next to rotate cube and desktop cube.. dbl click general options... up closer to the top...  click on desktop size  and set them to 4, 1 and 1  top to bottom... ctrl+alt+(Left Mouse Button) then move mouse
[14:54] <doktoreas> Hello
[14:54] <hunzikea> recently, my laptop fails waking up from suspend to ram. i followed the guide in the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend) and got the following out: [   18.230778]   Magic number: 0:731:232
[14:54] <hunzikea> [   18.230780]   hash matches /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/base/power/main.c:76
[14:54] <hunzikea> [   18.230796]   hash matches device ttyv2
[14:54] <zhaozhou> carma, Firstly, care to pastebin your iptables rules? And have you enabled forwarding? (/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/forwarding, i think.)
[14:54] <hunzikea> can anybody help?
[14:54] <Buyydee> zhaozhou: Could I chmod my home folder to be non-accessable and then change the folder inside of it and he would still see it? Or would this require a link from his home folder?
[14:54] <bazhang> pastebin hunzikea
[14:55] <carma> yes, forwarding is enabled, how do I use pastebin?
[14:55] <hunzikea> bazhang: what do you want to see in pastebin? execpt those three lines?
[14:55] <zhaozhou> Buyydee, One to be?
[14:55] <zhaozhou> Buyydee, One to be what? (:
[14:55] <Buyydee> zhaozhou: Excuse me?
[14:55] <Jagatuba> I had a heck of a time getting Ubuntu to connect to my linksys router. I finally did get it to work but I have to enter the passphrase everytime I boot up. I'm pretty sure this is not necessary, but I don't know how to make it remember my passphrase.
[14:55] <bazhang> hunzikea, it was an after the fact request for pastebin
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > carma
[14:56] <zhaozhou> Buyydee, You can do that, simply making them non-readably by others, that's no problem at all. But he will still be able to scroll around the system like you can.
[14:56] <Buyydee> Jagatuba: There's something called 'keyring' in ubuntu. You should enable that
[14:56] <mgolisch> Jagatuba: thats because networkmanager didnt save the wlan key in the login keyring
[14:56] <hunzikea> bazhang: sorry, i don't get it
[14:56] <Jagatuba> how do I enable that
[14:56] <mgolisch> so you have to unlock the default keyring networkmanager saved the wlan key into on every boot
[14:57] <mgolisch> theres hints on the web in howto change that
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> hunzikea He was politely telling you that pasteing into the channel is not cool
[14:57] <rbarbo> hello all!
[14:57] <zhaozhou> rbarbo, hello!
[14:57] <carma> thanks ubottu
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> hunzikea and to please not do it again
[14:57] <hunzikea> ok, sorry, i thought just three lines would be ok :-) anyway. help appreciated...
[14:57] <zhaozhou> carma, ubottu is a bot. ;)
[14:58] <hunzikea> Jack_Sparrow: i won't
[14:58] <carma> but I have to get this server to nat, please help me... lol didn't know that...
[14:58] <rbarbo> im tryin to make usb stick bootable
[14:58] <rbarbo> look at this
[14:58] <rbarbo> http://rafb.net/p/bsxUpn85.html
[14:58] <rbarbo> i dont udnerstand if i have to compile or sth
[14:58] <Buyydee> zhaozhou: I'm not quite sure how to tackle this... I don't know if the thing with chmod'ing is the right approach. Let me formulate my problem more general: I want a friend to be able to access my ~/Music folder via ssh - how would you do this?
[14:58] <bazhang> carma, try #networking
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> rabelais Pleas dont use enter after every three words..    and also see pendrivelinux.com
[14:58] <UrTopBoi> is xubuntu just a slimed down version of the full release?
[14:58] <casio1374633> 请问有人能帮忙吗?
[14:59] <bazhang> !cn
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[14:59] <Buyydee> !chinese
[14:59] <carma> the webserver I am trying to nat uses a proxy server and a different gateway.. can that have an effect?
[14:59] <tech0007> !xubuntu | UrTopBoi
[14:59] <casio1374633> ....
[14:59] <casio1374633> sorry . i am not find that
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> UrTopBoi No, just a different desktop, but lighter than gnome ..yes
[14:59] <bazhang> casio1374633, /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:59] <Buyydee> casio1374633: try /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:59] <Buyydee> :)
[15:00] <casio1374633> ye . i just find it i make mistake
[15:00] <zhaozhou> carma, Just forward to the gateway, or whatever brings tho data to the webserver, then you'll be all right.
[15:00] <chong> hi; can someone help me get skype running on hardy heron x64?
[15:00] <carma> I have webmin on the linux server aswell and the IP and port for that is https://196.211.153.122:10000 if you want to check it out.
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> carma webmin is not advised
[15:00] <Buyydee> chong: Yes, I quickly look for the guide
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[15:01] <carma> yeah! I will try that!
[15:01] <Kartagis> !ebox
[15:02] <zhaozhou> SSH is way better then any of those solutions.
[15:02] <Buyydee> chong: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432295&highlight=skype+hardy+64+bit
[15:02] <carma> I like iptables more but webmin sounded esier...
[15:02] <bindaas> hi,firefox 3 is behaving awkwardly on hardy heron,i cant add exception,doesnot show me history ,screw address bar,purging and installing new firefox does not help
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin > carma
[15:03] <zhaozhou> Jack_Sparrow, Got it already.
[15:03] <l3d> ok I* had used remastersys to reinstall everything I am using 8.04 and I notice that when i change the login window options to allow me to auto login or just even change the login window itself  it reverts back every time like it wont let me change anything. Any ideas on what to do?
[15:03] <Joelito> hi all, I just install apache + mysql and I don't want to load them on ubuntu startup..how to do this,please
[15:03] <geek_inn2> in xp pidgin problems connecting 2 IRC
[15:03] <geek_inn2> iam trying some unpopular software
[15:03] <bazhang> ##windows geek_inn2
[15:03] <zhaozhou> geek_inn2, #pidgin
[15:03] <carma> Thanks Jack, what is !ebox?
[15:03] <chong> Buyydee: well, i've had it installed for a while, but i've never really tested it until now, and it's throwing ALSA errors at me.
[15:03] <mgolisch> its a known problem i think
[15:03] <dr_Willis> geek_inn2,  there is xchat for windows
[15:03] <geek_inn2> clicks and whistles
[15:03] <mgolisch> upgrade to the latest version
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> zhaozhou I didnt send it directly to her the first time and she did not specifically respond to it so I then > to her
[15:03] <bazhang> geek_inn2, no xp support here.
[15:03] <Buyydee> chong: which version do you have installed?
[15:03] <Xoferif> how can I set a script to run on start up?
[15:03] <mgolisch> oh irc
[15:04] <geek_inn2> xchat is  not Free>
[15:04] <mgolisch> i read icq
[15:04] <mgolisch> my bad
[15:04] <mgolisch> :)
[15:04] <geek_inn2> soo.......
[15:04] <mgolisch> geek_inn2: it is
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !ebox > carma
[15:04] <FloodBot1> mgolisch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:04] <l3d> xchat2 is right
[15:04] <chong> Buyydee: 2.0.0.68
[15:04] <ufik> hey ppl, i have do openLDAP+samba domain adn i have delay above 3-5min after raise winXP to enter in computer with domain login... sry bad english
[15:04] <karname> how i can see all program that connect to the internet in ubuntu
[15:04] <mgolisch> geek_inn2: http://www.silverex.org/news/ << xchat compiled for windows(totaly free)
[15:04] <zhaozhou> karname, netstat
[15:04] <geek_inn2> now i configured for good
[15:04] <Buyydee> chong: there's a slightly newer one, but that shouldn't matter. is sound working?
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> geek_inn2 Please stop rambling on
[15:05] <chong> Buyydee: yes, both in and out
[15:05] <bazhang> geek_inn2, no ##windows support here.
[15:05] <Xpistos> When you are talking about Xen - What is an LVM? Linux Virtual Machine?
[15:05] <bazhang> !lvm
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !ircfix
[15:05] <Buyydee> chong: Have you done a test call? What were the results?
[15:05] <carma> will I be able to create a NAT with that?
[15:05] <tech0007> !icq
[15:05] <geek_inn2> i have strange habit of clicking enter,in IRC and chat often
[15:06] <Leefmc> Question: Where are aliases stored again? There is somewhere in your ~/ directory that i was told to store aliases iirc, i did so, but now i want to add another and i forget the file name
[15:06] <bazhang> geek_inn2, stop with the chat please
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !icqfix
[15:06] <chong> Buyydee: i just dont hear anything
[15:06] <Buyydee> chong: Do you hear the ringing before the call?
[15:06] <chong> Buyydee: or if i leave it on 'default' for the output device, it says 'problem with audio device'
[15:06] <chong> no
[15:07] <zhaozhou> Leefmc, What aliases?
[15:07] <zhaozhou> Leefmc, for bash?
[15:07] <Kartagis> !icq
[15:07] <Buyydee> chong: Is there any other sound programme (like music player...) running in the background?
[15:07] <Leefmc> zhaozhou: Yea
[15:07] <zhaozhou> Leefmc, .bashrc
[15:07] <Luhta> where is the ubuntu equivilancy of /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ ? I don't have that direcotry
[15:07] <Kartagis> !pidgin
[15:07] <Luhta> directory either
[15:07] <zetheroo> is there a known USB TV tuner that works in Ubuntu?
[15:07] <carma> I will use EBOX!!!!
[15:07] <Leefmc> zhaozhou: Thats it, thank you
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Kartagis the icq fix is done, just waiting for testing to be released
[15:07] <tech0007> Luhta: /etc/network ?
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> carma good choice
[15:07] <carma> Thank you guys! Have a nice day!
[15:08] <chong> Buyydee: i could try closing firefox; it might have some sound player integrated
[15:08] <Luhta> tech0007, I looked there but the format looks different,
[15:08] <zhaozhou> Leefmc, Could use the alias command aswell though (: but that will dissapear when you close bash.
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> carma take care
[15:08] <carma> I have to get this server up before my boss craps on me...
[15:08] <Buyydee> chong: I don't think so...
[15:08] <tech0007> Luhta: what exactly are u lookin for?
[15:08] <Leefmc> zhaozhou: Yea
[15:08] <atrus> zetheroo: quite a few. i'm on a wintv pvr usb2.
[15:08] <geek_inn2> hey developers response not correct for my problem.auto mounting problems in hardy,i tried to fix and entered the entry "If you manually mount them without using gnome-mount then that is the reason you don't see the labels, the labels are seen if you mount the drives through HAL which is through gnome-mount".i added entry of four drives  fat partitions like this "/dev/sda8 /media/HUMMING vfat umask=0000 0 0"
[15:08] <geek_inn2> About the read/write problem, what are the fstab entries for those drives/partitions?
[15:08] <geek_inn2> "
[15:08] <Luhta> tech0007, I am trying to follow this, umm one sec
[15:08] <Kartagis> Jack_Sparrow: the pidgin-broke-icq thing?
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Kartagis Yes is the short answer
[15:09] <zetheroo> ﻿atrus: how easy was the installation?
[15:09] <Mizusei> alguien sabe instalar driver ?
[15:09] <geek_inn2> 2 problems.i dont see the xp lables 26gig drives showing in ubuntu without lable there are four such so very confusing
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Kartagis The patch is done.  it is under testing..  If you must must have it now I can hook you up. but only if you are running Hardy
[15:09] <gnubie> chong,  I had to install PulseAudio device chosser b4 skype would work in 64bits for me
[15:09] <zhaozhou> geek_inn2, You want to add r/w acces to the vfat through fstab? Clarify. (:
[15:10] <Luhta> tech0007, I have to find it again, I just picked up work on it again this morning
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > Mizusei
[15:10] <Mizusei> ok
[15:10] <chong> gnubie: ok, will try
[15:10] <zetheroo> ﻿atrus: where can I get one of them?
[15:10] <atrus> zetheroo: installation of the device? plug in it, and /dev/video0 pops up. you've got to configure the application to use it. mythtv was reasonably easy, just follow the instructions. are you looking at mythtv?
[15:10] <geek_inn2> next drives are shown as external in places>>external drives
[15:10] <gnubie> chong,  it just worked after that
[15:10] <zetheroo> ﻿atrus: I was thinking of using mythtv ... yes
[15:11] <AzAriaN> hello
[15:11] <geek_inn2> i want 2 have r/w access so i changed it to umask
[15:11] <geek_inn2> defaults entry doesnt give me the r/w access
[15:11] <chong> gnubie: i have it installed according to apt-get
[15:11] <Luhta> tech0007, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-771351.html the last posting on the page I'm trying to install those drivers
[15:11] <kane77> hi, I switched resolution to 1280x1024 and now I cannot change it to any other resolution.. what do I do?
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> zetheroo May I suggest you watch this video..  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2176025602905109829&hl=en
[15:12] <gnubie> chong,  let me see what else I might have done
[15:12] <chong> gnubie: do you know how i should go about activating this?
[15:12] <Luhta> tech0007, right now I'm using ndiswrapper and it keeps crashing every10 minutes or so requireing me to reboot in order to reload the module it freezes whenever I try to unload ndiswrapper to reload it (this is not the question, just background)
[15:12] <atrus> zetheroo: i dunno, mine's a couple years old or so. but they've got newer fancier models out now which are generally well supported. the wintv branded stuff (made my hauppague) is generally good. if you get one with "pvr" or otherwise with hardware encoding, odds are good. you might verify a particular model with #mythtv-users, the mythtv wiki, or just googling for: <model> linux :)
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> geek_inn2 The drives can get locked down by windows and will come up as redad only
[15:13] <Luhta> tech0007, er hang on I'll pastebin the INSTALL file for simplicity
[15:13] <atrus> zetheroo: high def tuners can be found too, but it's hard to get an unencrypted high-def signal you're allowed to work with.
[15:13] <Buyydee> What is BAT0?
[15:13] <geek_inn2> no i have full access in xp as admin,but really the problem is not mounting now,but just showing drive lables
[15:14] <bazhang> in xp?
[15:14] <zetheroo> ﻿atrus: ok... thanks for the info ... I am in South Africa so I am looking for the simplest of needs met ... namely Analog TV ....
[15:14] <atrus> zetheroo: made BY hauppauge rather.
[15:15] <ilya0035745> hi, I have installed ubuntu today! only 20 minutes from cd! there were no /dev/ttyusb0 in the "System > Administration > Network". My question is if /dev/tty0 and /dev/ttyUSB0 is almost the same, or not. Are there any certain differences or not? Shall I always restart my pc to get the connection 2 be activated?
[15:15] <gnubie> chong,  I see Pulse Audio Session Manager in my System > preferences > sessions
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> zetheroo PLease see the link I offered.
[15:15] <kalila> how can I tell what application is blocking my fraeking sound
[15:15] <kalila> quick before I break this PC
[15:15] <zhaozhou> ilya0035745, Could check the major/minor number with -l flag in sl and see. (:
[15:15] <Loofemmaps> what key/button is <super>?
[15:15] <atrus> zetheroo: the other thing that i really liked about this set is it comes with a usb IR reciever and a usb IR transmitter. might not be important to you now, but if that analog signal dissapears, you'll need something to automatically change the channels on the converter box you'll need to buy later (or digital set-top box, or satellite reciever, etc)
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> atrus It may be of interest to you as well
[15:15] <zetheroo> ﻿Jack_Sparrow: I am looking at it .. thanks ... I just have a slow connection
[15:15] <bazhang> Loofemmaps, windows
[15:15] <zhaozhou> ilya0035745, ls -l*
[15:15] <magnetron> Loofemmaps, next to the left alt key
[15:16] <Loofemmaps> ah k thanks
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[15:16] <chong> gnubie: yeah, i see it too
[15:16] <kalila> anyone? how can I tell what application is blocking the sound?
[15:16] <zetheroo> ﻿atrus: infrared in and out .... for the use of a remote?
[15:17] <zhaozhou> kalila, No application is, a sound server is.
[15:17] <gnubie> chong,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432295&highlight=skype  see if this helps
[15:18] <atrus> zetheroo: yeah, so this one comes with a remote, and you can set up your computer to respond to it. OUTPUT is so that your computer can act as a remote, so if you your tuner is connected to an external reciever box, your software will be able to control the channel it's tuned to.
[15:18] <chong> gnubie: yup; trying the mediabuntu install now
[15:18] <chong> gnubie: hmm, maybe i should remove the skype i have now then?
[15:18] <ilya0035745> I do not have sl, i will search 4 more info soon (whilst cheap internet session)
[15:19] <zhaozhou> ilya0035745, I meant ls. (:
[15:19] <RedFace> hey guys
[15:19] <chong> right now when i try 'skype' or 'padsp skype', but spew out ALSA errors
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Artie999  zetheroo    Please take the conversation private or to offtopic
[15:19] <RedFace> i need to change my keybindings
[15:19] <SliMM> what do I need to build simple standard C/C++ command line programs?
[15:20] <RedFace> and want to bind a dcop-command to a scancode
[15:20] <atrus> zetheroo: (most of the world is phasing out traditional analog tv, so you may need a digital->analog converter later on, which your computer with be able to control via IR)
[15:20] <chong> SliMM: you could build simple python command line programs with python :)
[15:20] <zetheroo> ﻿atrus: sounds cool
[15:20] <SliMM> i mean, this is what gcc says:
[15:20] <SliMM> /tmp/ccQ4TzgH.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
[15:20] <SliMM> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[15:20] <SliMM> chong: not for school
[15:20] <geek_inn2> i was writing question in lauchpad
[15:21] <zhaozhou> SliMM, That seems to be a problem with the code...
[15:21] <ilya0035745> ls. - ls and the point or sudo apt-get ...oh, ls :)
[15:21] <geek_inn2> what is Hal mounting or gnome-mout
[15:21] <geek_inn2> mount*
[15:21] <zhaozhou> ilya0035745, ls -l /dev. It'll echo out the minor and major number for the character file. If it's the same, you can use both. (:
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> geek_inn2 Please stop with the fragmented sentences.. read this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131  to learn more about drive labels
[15:22] <SliMM> zhaozhou:
[15:22] <SliMM> #include <stdio.h>
[15:22] <SliMM> int main(){ printf("sal"); return 0; }
[15:22] <chong> uh oh. how do i remove skype if its not in my apt-get list
[15:22] <ilya0035745> ok
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> SliMM Please stop  C++ has a channel
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> SliMM you need build essentials and possibly kernel headers
[15:22] <geek_inn2> mount
[15:22] <zhaozhou> SliMM, Seems correct to me. I have no idea. (:
[15:23] <zhaozhou> SliMM, After build-essential everything is flawless for me.
[15:23] <SliMM> Jack_Sparrow: what's the kernel headers package
[15:23] <gnubie> chong,  just looked in synaptic package manager and my skype is from medibuntu
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> SliMM sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[15:23] <chong> gnubie: yeah, thats the one im installing now; the one i have though came through other channels...
[15:23] <zhaozhou> I hate ubuntu's packaging syst.m
[15:24] <zhaozhou> system*
[15:24] <SliMM> Jack_Sparrow: ﻿`uname -r`?
[15:24] <chong> im very happy with their installs, just sometimes not the uninstalls if i didn't apt-get it
[15:24] <YeaSt> hey, guys
[15:24] <Applecache> any one with dell vostro1500??
[15:24] <zhaozhou> SliMM, Try the command out for yourself.
[15:24] <zhaozhou> chong, Most distrobutions will act that way.y
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> SliMM feel free to replace it with the results of uname -r from terminal session
[15:25] <zhaozhou> chong, The package manager is there for a reason.
[15:25] <YeaSt> can I just keep my home dir used in 32bit system and install a 64bit system?
[15:25] <geek_inn2> bye i will come back
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> SliMM just saves you the trouble
[15:25] <gnubie> chong,  I have skype-common and skype-static installed
[15:25] <zhaozhou> YeaSt, Yes, you can.
[15:25] <chong> gnubie: ok, will try.
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> YeaSt make a backup so in case you have issues in 64 you can get back
[15:26] <chong> gnubie: is it also started by 'skype'?
[15:26] <YeaSt> zhaozhou: so the home dir should be no difference in 32 or 64 bit system, right?
[15:26] <ilya0035745> yeah, after the reboot, there ttyUSB0 has appeared. So, I guess this file will live there by now... Earlier, there were no such a device, and command dmesg has shown this device for my siemens m50 through pl....- converter. I guess everything is ok
[15:26] <YeaSt> Jack_Spar:what kind of issue you mean probably?
[15:26] <gnubie> chong,  I use the icon in the internet apps
[15:26] <zhaozhou> YeaSt, Not unless you have a bunch of binary executables in there, but if you did not create them yourself, you do not own such a file.
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> YeaSt I think you will have problems.. but feel free to try it
[15:27] <gnubie> chong,  I use the icon in the internet apps , which is just skype
[15:27] <zhaozhou> Jack_Sparrow, why would there be problems?
[15:27] <YeaSt> Jack_Spar: you r saying I will run into problem but you do not what kind of problem?
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> YeaSt do you understand chroot
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[15:27] <zhaozhou> Jack_Sparrow, What does that have to do with text fileS?
[15:28] <YeaSt> Jack_Spar: yes, but why u say that?
[15:28] <zhaozhou> Jack_Sparrow, As i said, as far as there not any executables, there wont be a problem. *:
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> zhaozhou Problems using 64 bit in general
[15:29] <zhaozhou> Jack_Sparrow, Ah, yes, that's another thing though. ;)
[15:29] <chong> so how would i go about removing the skype that i already have on this system?
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> zhaozhou If he does not have more than 4 gigs of ram that he needs to use, there is little incentive to go to 64
[15:30] <chong> apt-get remove yields: Package skype is not installed, so not removed
[15:30] <zhaozhou> Jack_Sparrow, ubuntu does have highmemory support included.
[15:30] <Kartagis> hoşçakalın / bye
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> chong if skype wan manually installed, it will not be removed with apt-get
[15:31] <l3d> ok I* had used remastersys to reinstall everything I am using 8.04 and I notice that when i change the login window options to allow me to auto login or just even change the login window itself  it reverts back every time like it wont let me change anything. Any ideas on what to do?
[15:32] <sharperguy> How long does a resize2fs usually take?
[15:32] <tj83> who needs mroe than 3.6gb of memory in a linux environment in the first place?
[15:32] <tj83> more*
[15:32] <ilya0035745> "apt-get --enable-together remove all-evil-in-the-world" executes good affirmation :)
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> l3d Keep reading, we cont have much in the way of help available for people using that
[15:32] <chong> Jack_Sparrow: yeah; can you suggest an alternate method of uninstallation?
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> sharperguy it can take hours
[15:33] <sharperguy> Jack_Sparrow, yeah ok
[15:33] <tech0007> chong: how did u install it?
[15:33] <zhaozhou> tj83, true. ;)
[15:33] <chong> tech0007: by installing the ia32 packages and getting the 32 bit ver .deb from skype.com iirc
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> chong that is part of the problem when people install something on their own, we have no way of knowing where all the pieces went or what packages were installed from alternate sources
[15:34] <zhaozhou> Oh, and whilst the topic is memory, does anyone have experiences with ECC memories?
[15:34] <tech0007> chong: if u installed it from a deb file, you can use apt-get or dpkg
[15:34] <zhaozhou> I just bought a server with 2 gigs of ECC, wondering if it's worth it.
[15:34] <chong> tech0007: well, as apt-get doesnt work, i guess i didn't use a .deb
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> zhaozhou Sounds more like a topic for -server or #Hardware
[15:35] <chong> tech0007: im just concerned since im about to get the mediabuntu skype, and i dunno if it will conflict and stuff
[15:35] <zhaozhou> Jack_Sparrow, Ah, well then, never mind. (:
[15:36] <ilya0035745> how can I find a channel, e.g. about the laptops, on this irc-service?
[15:36] <william> [10:34] <william> what i would like to do is this: make a linux folder able to be viewed and accessed by anyone in the LAN (including windows and *buntus)
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> chong short of you going line by line through the script you used to install the previous version all you can do is click and pray
[15:36] <tech0007> chong: which deb version? 7.04? i'm at skype website now
[15:37] <newbee617> anyone use wicd for wireless networks? i have problems..
[15:37] <tj83> william look into samba but i cant tell you how to set it up
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> ilya0035745 not sure on irc, but i found alot of info with a search for wiki laptop testing
[15:37] <ilya0035745> ok
[15:38] <chong> tech0007: ive had it installed for some time now, i don't remember.
[15:38] <william> tj83: thanks.  i have already looked it up but i felt a bit over my head.  so i tried everything i could think of and am in need of someone greater than myself to give some wisdom
[15:38] <chong> is there any problem with me just manually deleting the skype binary?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> ilya0035745 Quite informative about what features work on which laptops
[15:38] <tech0007> chong: try 'dpkg --list > installedpackages', then search installedpackages for skype
[15:38] <bazhang> ilya0035745, linux on laptops website
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> chong that wont help, as that is probably the one thing that will get overwritten
[15:39] <tj83> william i too had difficulty so i wont be of any help... but i did find this out: leave windows in the dust and be free!
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang thanks, that is a good one too
[15:39] <wraund> how can I find out the /dev address of my new hard drive?
[15:39]  * N3bunel saluta
[15:39] <bazhang> http://www.linux-laptop.net/ ilya0035745
[15:39] <marx2k> sd
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> tj83 samba should have been easy, other than the password config that mot people mess up
[15:40] <ilya0035745> also, how can I answer to a person in irc without typing his name? Shall i point 2 the name and hoose "Last said" option?
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba
[15:40] <william> tj83: i do love the ubuntu but my brother had some troubles with feisty's apt problem but he may give it another chance in time.
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !tab
[15:40] <troythetechguy> When using Ubuntu forums, is there a way to mark the post I authored as RESOLVED?
[15:41] <william> Jack_Sparrow:  these wikis look much easier than the long pdfs i was squinting over from the samba website! thanks!
[15:41] <tech0007> troythetechguy: yes
[15:41] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow, :)
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> william great..
[15:41] <chong> tech0007: yeah, it shows up there
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang tagging it now
[15:42] <ilya0035745> ubottu: yes
[15:42] <troythetechguy> tech0007: Thanks.  do you know how I can mark it resolved, or where I can find information on how to mark it resolved?
[15:42] <tech0007> chong: try 'dpkg -r skype-debian&thenumbers'
[15:42] <william> also is there a way to get recomended packages automatically?
[15:42] <ilya0035745> ubottu: the advice 2 use !Tab is right
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> william great..   Like I said earlier the password setup is where most people have an issue, but if you have a user account on both systems with the same user name and password, you are golden
[15:43] <ilya0035745> ubottu: ok
[15:43] <tech0007> troythetechguy: im lookin for one of my resolved posts haha
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ilya0035745 Ubottu is a bot that we trigger to save ourselves some typint
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi > ilya0035745
[15:44] <B|ackPanther> I have problem with the movie player,whenever i close it and then happen to start it after some time there is no sound coming out.
[15:44] <Vagabundo> i wont to install ubuntu and boot my pc but nothing....
[15:44] <Vagabundo> And i hawe burn cd.
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Vagabundo do you get to the first start or install menu
[15:44] <eggshape> -m irc.rizon.net -j #blitz-anime
[15:44] <Vagabundo> No.
[15:44] <kazhatan> hi al
[15:44] <troythetechguy> tech0007: I found it.  If I click around enough times I'm bound to stumble onto it.  It's located under
[15:44] <troythetechguy> 	Thread Tools.  Thank you.
[15:44] <kazhatan> i`m using ubuntu 8.04
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !no
[15:44] <Vagabundo> xp come on frst
[15:45] <tech0007> troythetechguy: there you go...
[15:45] <kazhatan> when was last update for 8.04?
[15:45] <chong> tech0007: uh, so the line in installedpackages is : ii  skype                                      2.0.0.68-1. what do you mean to fill in for 'thenumbers'
[15:45] <acer_> chulun
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> kazhatan yesterday
[15:45] <tj83> Vagabundo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[15:46] <tech0007> chong: try 'sudo dpkg -r skype-debian', if it doesnt work, append skype-debian w/ the numbers
[15:46] <fbc> My nautilus freezes and my processor goes up 50% when i try to open a particular folder.  Any ideas?
[15:46] <kazhatan> Jack_Sparrow: apt-get udpate; apt-get upgrade doesn`t update anything since 18 july...
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> fbc Lots of files in there, music etc
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> kazhatan pastebin your sources list
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[15:47] <ilya0035745> i will 'play' with libraries from internet today, after 24:00. Wander why ther were no, e.g. library called flex, in the distribution... Sometimes, cheap internet is a problem
[15:47] <fbc> Jack_Sparrow, Yes, all movies, but they are in Sub directories..
[15:48] <fbc> Jack_Sparrow, it never did that before with that directory.
[15:48] <tech0007> kazhatan: check system->administration->software sources.
[15:48] <fbc> Jack_Sparrow, Is there some sort of cache directory i can delete or something?
[15:49] <kazhatan> my sources.list http://pastebin.com/m580483a9
[15:49] <fbc> Jack_Sparrow, My nautilus dims and the the only way to free it up is to kill the process. even after 5 minutes
[15:49] <kazhatan> tech0007: can i check this via ssh?
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> fbc Sorry, cant help you there, it must be trying to mreate icons for all the vids.
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> kazhatan pastebin your sources list  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit                        (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[15:51] <tech0007> kazhatan: you dont have any hardy-updates in sources.list
[15:51] <kazhatan> Jack_Sparrow: my sources.list http://pastebin.com/m580483a9
[15:51] <definitely> Hello all, i have one quesstion, if i open Music Server in My UBuntu, when i close that soft, also port is closed ?
[15:52] <xubuntuuser> Does anybody know how to switch off orage's configure dialog at system startup?
[15:52] <tech0007> kazhatan: enable hardy-updates in system->administration->software sources
[15:53] <RedFace> where can i find the commands, that the XF86-Keycodes execute?
[15:53] <RedFace> I want to change some of them
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> kazhatan what flavor of ubuntu are you running or in other words, where did you download your cd?
[15:54] <kazhatan> tech0007: tech0007: could you paste mi this line, and i`ll paste them into /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:54] <chong> tech0007: im still not sure what numbers you are referring to
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[15:54] <B|ackPanther> how can i restart my media player,if i close it and open it again it does not play .
[15:54] <definitely> Hello all, i have one quesstion, if i open Music Server in My UBuntu, when i close that soft, also port is closed ?
[15:54] <ilya0035745> bazhang: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - ok
[15:54] <kazhatan> Jack_Sparrow: i`m using standard ubuntu 8.04
[15:54] <Asa_A> Is there a way I can force all PulseAudio sounds to use a specific output (Simultaneous mode)? I've set it as the default, but Pidgin doesn't change and I have to change Miro as I start each video.
[15:55] <chong> tech0007: nvm i got it :) thx
[15:55] <RedFace> Jack_Sparrow: I do not want to set shortcuts, i want to change the interpretation of some of the XF86-Keycodes
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kazhatan That does not look like our default sources..
[15:55] <quarterl1fe> 4~3
[15:55] <RedFace> directly
[15:55] <roccobaroccorocc> !lista
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> RedFace cant help you there
[15:55] <Hondo_Kitsune> !kopete
[15:55] <xubuntuuser> Has anybody an idea to switch off the orage-confug-dialog at system startup / login ?
[15:56] <tech0007> kazhatan: here's my sources.list, i'm using a different mirror http://paste.ubuntu.com/25011/
[15:56] <kazhatan> thx
[15:56] <Hondo_Kitsune> xubuntuuser: try #xubuntu
[15:56] <kazhatan> i`ll try it later
[15:56] <kazhatan> by
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> xubuntuuser you can set it to bypass the login or change the gdm theme .. your choice
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> xubuntuuser you can set it to bypass the login or change the ?dm theme .. your choice
[15:57] <definitely> Hello all, i have one quesstion, if i open Music Server in My UBuntu, when i close that soft, also port is closed ?
[15:57] <xubuntuuser> J﻿ack_Sparrow where can i set it bypass?
[15:58] <ObsidianDesire> Hey I have the Trust TB-2100 wireless tablet, and i was just wondering where to find the drivers for it?
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> xubuntuuser In gnome it is under system...admin...login window.. security
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > ObsidianDesire
[15:59] <ne2k__> any recommendations for a decent-looking programmer's editor for gnome with syntax-highlighting, code completion, etc. for perl?
[15:59] <william> ok i am haivng troubles.  i want to makea  folder become shared.  how do i do that?
[16:00] <ne2k__> william: what does "shared" mean?
[16:00] <tech0007> william: rightclick on a folder, then sharing options
[16:00] <william> tech0007: and then it should be accessable from another computer since i have samba running?
[16:00] <jochmenDS> is there an livecd of ubuntu mid?
[16:01] <xubuntuuser> Jack_Sparrow: in xfce there are the same dialogues, but i can't find "bypass"
[16:01] <tech0007> william: yes
[16:01] <sinan> Can any recommend a virtual machine?
[16:01] <ne2k__> I installed xemacs21-gnome-nomule and it looks horrible. I then installed emacs22-nomule and it also looks horrible. is there nothing that looks GNOME-ish?
[16:01] <bazhang> !vm
[16:01] <bazhang> sinan, ^^
[16:01] <william> i keep getting conection established,waiting for welcome message... followeed by conection timed out
[16:02] <Tikihead> good mornin 'buntu
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> xubuntuuser In gnome it is under system...admin...login window.. security      automatic login
[16:02] <tech0007> william: what OS is running on the guest machine?
[16:03] <Hondo_Kitsune> sinan: VirtualBox is powerful, free and allows seamless mode
[16:03] <Hondo_Kitsune> use Adept/Synaptic to get it
[16:03] <Tikihead> are there hd-media files available for usb installation of 8.04.1?
[16:03] <xubuntuuser> Jack_Sparrow: There I can only check the box "Enable automatic login" and type an user for automatic login
[16:03] <william> tech0007: right now i am trying to access it from windows.  i can reboot the accessing one and start it up in linux if that makes it easier
[16:03] <ne2k__> I installed Ubuntu under Wubi from Windows XP. is it possible to boot my windows partition inside a virtual machine from within Ubuntu using a virtual machine? should I use virtualbox or qemu?
[16:03] <sinan> bazhang, Hondo_Kitsune, thanks ! :)
[16:03] <bazhang> np
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> william If you right click a folder and share it, its prompts you to share with either samba or nfs. Clicking samba installs samba and all is well on the samba front.
[16:03] <Hondo_Kitsune> !Cedega
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> william using nautilus
[16:04] <kirrus> hello... Is there an easy way that a user can disable the automatic opening of Rhythmbox when they plug in their mobile, and f-spot when they plug in their camera in Hardy?
[16:04] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> hello!
[16:04] <tech0007> sinan: i use virtualbox from sun.com, so i wouldnt have any trouble every kernel update
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ne2k__ please read the faq for wubi  .. I wont use or recommend it...
[16:04] <ne2k__> Jack_Sparrow: I'm using it
[16:04] <kirrus> ne2k__, no, not really
[16:04] <kirrus> Jack_Sparrow, there's nothing wrong with wubi
[16:05] <Hondo_Kitsune> sinan: if you want something more powerful, VMWare for Linux and Parallels for Linux are commercial
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> ne2k__ I understand that, but trying to do what you are asking is not a good idea
[16:05] <Tikihead> the 8.04 ones don't match kernel, and if i try to use the one from the 8.04.1 iso break the install - keeps looping when detecting harddrives
[16:05] <jochmenDS> wubi works fine
[16:05] <bazhang> vmware-server is free, workstation is payware
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> kirrus We all have our onw opinions on that subject.. Wubi cost me a reinstall of windows
[16:05] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone know if a Mac Pro can run Ubuntu? I want to have Ubuntu be the only OS on my Mac Pro, but im not sure if its supported/runs well
[16:05] <Hondo_Kitsune> I used wubi before getting sick of windows and going Linux singleboot
[16:05] <kirrus> ne2k__, the problem is the filesystem access would become really complicated... You can do it if you have a standard install of Ubuntu, in its own partition
[16:06] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> here you again leonedu
[16:06] <Hondo_Kitsune> Leefmc: You'd need the PPC version of Ubuntu as far as i am aware
[16:06] <sinan> Hondo_Kitsune: no i prefer the free stuff :P
[16:06] <bazhang> Hondo_Kitsune, mac pro is intel
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !ppc
[16:06] <Leefmc> Hondo_Kitsune: I thought Current gen Mac Pro's ran intel
[16:06] <jochmenDS> reinstall, you mean it killed the bootloader fixmbr?
[16:06] <ne2k__> kirrus: why can't I just point it at the partition all the same? windows isn't going to do anything to my loopback file
[16:06] <leonedu> Hi,sorry,I just saw it.
[16:06] <Leefmc> -'
[16:06] <leonedu> Good evening.
[16:06] <Hondo_Kitsune> Leefmc: I was thinking of older ones
[16:07] <Leefmc> Hondo_Kitsune: Gotcha, what about the newer ones?
[16:07] <leonedu> I don't what time it is there.
[16:07] <ne2k__> kirrus: obviously, if it did, it would cause mayhem
[16:07] <bazhang> all Mac Pro are intel
[16:07] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> where are you actually?
[16:07] <Hondo_Kitsune> Leefmc: They are intel, so installation should be a dawdle. Google for some tutorials. they should be easy to follow. It can be done
[16:07] <kirrus> ne2k__, you're running Linux off your active windows partition - you can't then use Linux to mount the windows partiton in a VM, because Linux is using it
[16:07] <Asa_A> ne2k__: any VM you use will use virtual hardware, which windows will see as a change in hardware. I'm sure this will cause problems, which might invole making your windows stop working for violating the license by transering it to another PC (as far as M$ is concerned the hardware all changed at once).
[16:07] <kirrus> Asa_A, there is ways around that
[16:07] <bazhang> f0xy_p1r4t3s, this is not a chat channel
[16:07] <kirrus> documented ways
[16:08] <ne2k__> kirrus: but the VM doesn't "mount" the partition, it does raw access to the device, no?
[16:08] <kirrus> f0xy_p1r4t3s, #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:08] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> ok2
[16:08] <kirrus> ne2k__, it mounts it
[16:08] <Leefmc> Hondo_Kitsune: They are intel, but i read about issues and requirements that ubuntu be 64bit, etc. But it was all sort of old info, so i didnt know if its current. I think i'll post on the forums then, because i really dont want to Brick my Mac Pro.
[16:08] <ne2k__> kirrus: there wouldn't be any point in the VM "mounting" it, because it wouldn't be able to do anything raw to the disk
[16:08] <Hondo_Kitsune> Leefmc: Good idea
[16:09] <Cyndrework> looking for a replacement for macromedia
[16:09] <ne2k__> kirrus: for example, the virtual bios wouldn't know how to read the mbr
[16:09] <bazhang> !equivalents
[16:09] <kirrus> ne2k__, it won't work ;)
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc run 32 bit live and test it.. it wont do anything to your mac
[16:09] <bazhang> Cyndrework, ^^
[16:09] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Yea, but although i like the Live, long term stability is hard to test
[16:10] <Crucial> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.04. I have downloaded it, md5sum hash checked it, performed the CD self check on the Boot Menu. I have encountered some problems - after I selected Try without installing and the loading began, the bar stopped moving at some point... So I found out how to make it show the text instead of the bar moving side to side. I have as complete a log of what it says as I was able to make. The log
[16:10] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: For a server, heh
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc look into persistent mode.. keep changes upgeades on usb stick
[16:10] <kirrus> ne2k__, its not a case of mbrs and bios, its a case of locking the partition
[16:10] <Cyndrework> bazhang: ty
[16:10] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Interesting
[16:10] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> any idea about c++ compiler for linux?
[16:10] <bazhang> np
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !persistent
[16:10] <tech0007> !paste | Crucial:
[16:11] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> like windows they hav dev and gcc
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9893
[16:11] <bazhang> f0xy_p1r4t3s, install build-essential
[16:11] <ne2k__> kirrus: I'm convinced that vmware used to be able to do it when I used it years ago.
[16:11] <Crucial> Ok, I'll check it out
[16:11] <YeaSt> has anyone install 8.0.4.1
[16:12] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: I mean hell, the mac pro can be a bit of a pain though. It doesn't even have an eject tray button. So i literally have no idea how i could boot from cd with a blank harddrive haha
[16:12] <ne2k__> kirrus: virtualbox won't let me add /dev/hda1 as a partition to boot from. it seems to want a .vdi or .vmdk file only
[16:12] <bazhang> YeaSt, if you are up to date then yes
[16:12] <jbroome> YeaSt: i have a regular.. oh, bazhang beat me to it
[16:12] <kirrus> ne2k__, you can't do it in virtualbox, from memory, only VMware
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc there is a keycode to press to boot from it
[16:12] <tech0007> YeaSt: 8.04.1 is hardy w/ all the updates
[16:12] <Asa_A> ﻿Is there a way I can force all PulseAudio sounds to use a specific output device? I've set the device I want as the default, but Pidgin doesn't change and I have to change Miro as I start each video.
[16:12] <psaikido1> anyone with experience with qemu - i've got xp home edition as a guest and want to load software but it won't read the cd.  how to get the guest to support the cd drive?
[16:13] <nonewmsgs> Jack_Sparrow, i still cannot connect.  i have tried even accessing it using localhost and the computer next to it
[16:13] <sobersabre> hi guys, when will pidgin 2.4.3 reach hardy-updates ?
[16:13] <sobersabre> or hardy-backports ?
[16:13] <ne2k__> kirrus: that suX0rz ;-)
[16:13] <bazhang> sobersabre, sometime soon
[16:13] <sobersabre> bazhang: measured in which units ?
[16:13] <mad_max02> how can I share folder to windows users ???
[16:13] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Perhaps the keycode to open the cd try is non-os dependent, not sure though
[16:13] <tech0007> sobersabre: if u cant wait get it from getdeb.net
[16:13] <Leefmc> tray*
[16:14] <Crucial> Do I just click paste? What happens after?
[16:14] <sobersabre> tech0007: I tried, and it still left the problem with ICQ.
[16:14] <bazhang> Crucial, then give us the url
[16:14] <nonewmsgs> mad_max02, hello! we are in the same boat.  step 1: right click on folder click shared
[16:14] <tech0007> Crucial: post the link here
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc if u want to boot from a CD just insert it and shut down. Then hold down the "c" key while turn in your mac on
[16:14] <Crucial> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25016/
[16:14] <tech0007> sobersabre: then wait
[16:14] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> which one is easy? build-essential or terminal?
[16:15] <mad_max02> nonewmsgs, yeah I'm trying it right now
[16:15] <gneale_> how do i reconfigure xorg from command line?
[16:15] <sobersabre> tech0007: I even downloaded the dsc from hardy-proposed.
[16:15] <bazhang> f0xy_p1r4t3s, you need build-essential to compile
[16:15] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: I know, i simply mean opening the cd tray. litterally, opening it. I'd hope that the key to eject the tray is in the bios/whatever.
[16:15] <Crucial> bazhang/tech0007: Haha, this is cool!
[16:15] <sobersabre> but there is some problem with the signature, so I am chickening out to dpkg -i this .deb.
[16:15] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Its hard to boot from cd if you cant open the cd tray haha
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> sobersabre you will not get icq in pidgin if you are running anything other than hardy
[16:15] <nonewmsgs> mad_max02, that is how far i know.  but it is not working for me.  this is why i am here :)
[16:15] <bazhang> f0xy_p1r4t3s, terminal is where you enter commands
[16:15] <kirrus> Is there an easy way that a user can disable the automatic opening of Rhythmbox when they plug in their mobile, and f-spot when they plug in their camera in Hardy?
[16:15] <sobersabre> Jack_Sparrow: I am on hardy.
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc there must be a way to open it
[16:15] <psaikido1> anyone with experience with qemu?  how to get the guest xp to support the cd drive?
[16:16] <bazhang> !qemu
[16:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sobersabre the official fix is being tested.. you will need to be patient
[16:16] <bazhang> psaikido1, ^^
[16:16] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Perhaps if you take the face plate off, but as far as i remember, that thing is solid aluminum
[16:16] <sobersabre> Jack_Sparrow: I find it hard to do :)
[16:16] <michalxo> Hello, can anyone help me to run my SB Live! 5.1 with another onboard (disabled card?) (AC'97) ?
[16:17] <gneale_> Please, what is command to reconfigure xorg?
[16:17] <f0xy_p1r4t3s> ok2
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc go read up on macs.. it can be done without getting physical
[16:17] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Im sure it can, im just talking :)
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[16:17] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: The whole thing is solid aluminum, amazing craftsmanship. But its pretty damn stupid to not give a open cd tray button because its not pretty.
[16:17] <Crucial> tech0007: So when someone says something it will get added onto the pastbin page?
[16:18] <poningru> gneale_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sobersabre Did you get that
[16:18] <Tikihead> are there hd-media files available for 8.04.1 ?
[16:18] <poningru> gneale_: the last part may be different a little bit type x and do tab autocompletion to see what are available
[16:18] <joker2> désolé :)
[16:18] <psaikido1> qemu guest is xp - all installed, but cd not working.  trying to load software into the guest xp
[16:19] <michalxo> Can anyone help me to run my SB Live! 5.1 with another onboard (disabled card?) (AC'97) ? (google didnt helped)
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> michalxo /join #alsa
[16:19] <michalxo> thx
[16:19] <bazhang> Tikihead, what are hd media files
[16:19] <anteaya> I have just done a fresh install of Hardy.  Being a proud Canadian, during the installation process I selected the english canadian keyboard.  Big mistake.  I dont have the at symbol, the slash symbol and many others.  What file do I change and how do I change itÉ  Thank You.
[16:19] <gneale_> poningru, xorg-xserver is not installed so I with x and then tab
[16:19] <nivash> what do i need to run the GNU software radio?
[16:20] <poningru> gneale_: yes
[16:20] <Tikihead> bazhang: installation files to install from usb
[16:21] <nivash> I'm waiting for an answer
[16:21] <Tikihead> available usually on archive.ubuntu.com
[16:21] <leonedu> who knows how to set up an environment for running a JSP server?
[16:21] <nivash> I know leo
[16:21] <poningru> !jsp
[16:21] <Tikihead> just can't find any for 8.04.1 and trying to use 8.04's does not work
[16:21] <bazhang> !usb | Tikihead
[16:21] <nivash> You need to install Tomcat
[16:21] <Xavura> How does one change the icon that shows next to your name on the login screen?
[16:21] <leonedu> nivash. thanks.come on.
[16:22] <Tikihead> ... yeah thanks - I know how to do it.
[16:22] <gneale_> ponigru, maybe I can find it in ps aux?
[16:22] <Xavura> I have 3 accounts on here and they all have the same icon which is kinda boring
[16:22] <nivash> Goto synaptic package manager
[16:22] <Tikihead> i need the files for 8.04.1
[16:22] <nivash> then search for tomcat
[16:22] <william> Jack_Sparrow, OK now i can semiaccess it! i ha progressed to the password problem
[16:22] <Gman> does anyone have time for an installation question?
[16:22] <nivash> You can mark tomcat for installation
[16:22] <leonedu> nviash Okay,thanks. I will have a try.
[16:22] <Gman> (installing ubuntu, that is)
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080413155829AAVGcGq
[16:22] <ariel_> Gman, ask the question
[16:22] <leonedu> nivash, I am apt-getting it.
[16:22] <gneale_> ponigru, could it be x-session-manager?
[16:23] <nivash> You need to know more to start or stop the server
[16:23] <ironfoot_495> Hi I really need some on my ubuntu 8.04 my synaptic package manager is not working?
[16:23] <Tikihead> or how to make the ones from 8.04 archive or the 8.04.1 iso work
[16:23] <ironfoot_495> help
[16:23] <tech0007> Tikihead: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[16:23] <psaikido1> how to start qemu so that guest os (xp) can read a cd?
[16:23] <Gman> I have tried installing off the server and the desktop CDs, and have tired booting off the LiveCD
[16:23] <Gman> the kernel loads, presumably (loading the kernel -> 100%)
[16:23] <leonedu> I have some experience in establishing apache.
[16:23] <bazhang> psaikido1, did you not read that link?
[16:23] <Gman> then a blinking cursor in the upper right-=hand corner. forever.
[16:23] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: I know, there are hacks, but i was simply saying its stupid of apple to not give a eject button
[16:23] <psaikido1> bazhang: yes, but didn't see any info to help me
[16:24] <Gman> other linux distro liveCDs boot
[16:24] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: I was talking man :), sorry hehe
[16:24] <Gman> (tried DSL)
[16:24] <gneale_> ponigru, I'm running Hardy Heron
[16:24] <Gman> text mode/safe graphics mode have no effect
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Leefmc Dont make me hurt you
[16:24] <nivash> anyone tell me what enlightenment does?
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !e17
[16:25] <bazhang> Leefmc, run :)
[16:25] <Leefmc> Jack_Sparrow: Loi, for what? I dont believe i ever asked how to open the cd tray without the keyboard, i was just saying apple was stupid on that part :)
[16:25] <nivash> It is fully grey in color
[16:25] <Corkster> anyone having erratic behaviour with gnome  ?
[16:25] <nivash> not looking good
[16:25] <poningru> gneale_: no its gotta be xorg-something or xserver-something
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> nivash http://xwinman.org/
[16:26] <Corkster> odd
[16:26] <quio> Can someone please help me get my wireless working.   I have been reading Ubuntu forums and documentation to get it running and cannot figure it out.  It worked before I upgraded to 8.04 hardy.  I know the card works because if I put in an XP hard drive it works right away.  Any suggestions please?
[16:26] <Tikihead> tech0007: yes.. i have the iso. i need the hd-media initrd.gz and vmlinuz for my usb stick for 8.04.1
[16:26] <gneale_> ponigru, It was xserver-xorg
[16:26] <gneale_> ponigru, thx!
[16:26] <psaikido1> maybe I'm asking the question?
[16:27] <nivash> what is the difference between window manager and desktop environment?
[16:27] <ne2k__> quio: you put a wireless card /in/ your hard drive?!
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> quio If you want help, suggest you include what hardware you are trying to get working.. bcm43 would be my guess
[16:27] <tech0007> Tikihead: mount the iso, and you will see these files
[16:27] <psaikido1> because it's already installed but without cd support is all
[16:27] <Gman> no ideas on the install question?
[16:27] <kakoonia> !sound
[16:27] <quio> <Jack_Sparrow  That is correct
[16:27] <opuyiupojuy> how do I tell if an installed program is 32 or 64 bit? (installed from repositories)
[16:27] <psaikido1> so i wondered if there was something i was doing wrong when starting qemu
[16:27] <nivash> how to connect to broadband from ubuntu?
[16:27] <Crucial> This is a better version of what I sent a while ago     http://paste.ubuntu.com/25019/
[16:27] <jbroome> nivash: plug the network cable in
[16:28] <Tikihead> tech0007: will the files from the iso be able to mount/use the iso at the root of my usb drive the same way as the hd-media ones?
[16:28] <netix> hellow i need help with java eror
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> quio BCM43xx  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[16:28] <nivash> after that?
[16:28] <opuyiupojuy> I just discovered "blender" and it looks soooo great, just want to make sure I'm using the 64 bit version
 Thanks I will check that out.
[16:28] <nivash> Is ubuntu better than debian?
[16:28] <netix> im new in ubuntu so i dont now what to do
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> nivash Offtopic
[16:28] <xgermx> @nivash depends what your doing
[16:28] <tech0007> Tikihead: what's hd-media?
[16:28] <bazhang> !ot > nivash
[16:29] <netix> can i get some help
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > netix
[16:29] <psaikido1> anyone help with qemu? starting cd support in xp..
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme > netix
[16:29] <Tikihead> tech0007: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[16:29] <xgermx> can anyone help me make Dolphin the default file manager for Gnome?
[16:30] <opuyiupojuy> anyone? is there a way to tell if a program installed from repositories is 32 or 64 bit?
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> xgermx if you figure it out let me know, I tried a couple tutorials.. they didnt work
[16:30] <opuyiupojuy> given that the program has both options in source code
[16:30] <xgermx> same here
[16:30] <netix> !helpme
[16:30] <gneale_> Ahhh X!
[16:31] <Stone_> can anyone tell me what /b/ means?
[16:31] <netix> eror is this: was unable to find a suitable place to store its temporary files.. how can i fix it?
[16:32] <scrosson> is there a way to change where the aplications/software is install (like it will install it to my slave drive instead)?
[16:32] <Crucial> !repeat
[16:32] <Tikihead> tech0007: you use syslinux on the usb stick, create a syslinux.cfg and add vmlinuz and initrd.gz, and a copy of the iso on the root of the usb stick
[16:32] <Crucial> !patience
[16:32] <sebastian_> where do i activate my wireless connection?
[16:32] <doktoreas> anyone got some guides for changing the usplash theme in hardy?
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[16:32] <tech0007> Tikihead: never did that before, sorry
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Wait for it
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > netix
[16:33] <Tikihead> tech0007: handy if you're experimenting - saves on burning cds lol
[16:33] <Stone_> what does "/b/" mean?
[16:33] <fr1t0l4y> hi everyone!
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Stone_ in what context
[16:33] <scrosson> is there a way to change where the aplications/software is install (like it will install it to my slave drive instead)?
[16:34] <netix> !patience
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> scrosson not really going to do what you think it will
[16:34] <ups> somebody knows how make sound work in one gateway laptop?
[16:34] <Stone_> I guess I'm not sure.  Someone sent me a message that said "it's times like these i wish all of the internet was /b/"
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !msgthebot > net
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !msgthebot > netix
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry channel
[16:34] <Tikihead> Stone_: http://www.4chan.org
[16:34] <scrosson> so i cant changed where software is installed?
[16:35] <sebastian_> where do i activate my wireless connection?
[16:35] <ups> sebastian check your wireless modules
[16:35] <ups> and make 'iwconfig'
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> scrosson it installs pieces in all sorts of folders.
[16:35] <scrosson> :( evul
[16:36] <Jack_Sparrow> scrosson   sep /home partitions will help alot
[16:36] <Vagabundo> my dell laptop dont boot
[16:36] <ups> nobody knows about gateway laptops with ubuntu? =/ =/
[16:36] <scrosson> what will it do?
[16:36] <Crucial> I have a problem installing ubuntu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25019/
[16:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Vagabundo Burn the cd again, but at the slowest possible speed.
[16:36] <Arnos> Hi, how do I do a search for a file with a certain name name, then one of several numbers, then a certain extension? Please help.
[16:37] <Stone_> Tikihead: so he is just saying that he wishes the internet was like 4chan?
[16:37] <doktoreas> Jack_Sparrow: is that guide ok for hardy?
[16:38] <ne2k__> Arnos: find -name filename*.jpg ?
[16:38] <Tikihead> Stone_: apparently
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> doktoreas the one for feisty bcm?
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> doktoreas sorry, but juggling a few conversations at this point
[16:38] <ups> hey people, no-body knowz about gateway noteb00ks with ubuntu? =/ =/
[16:38] <Arnos> ne2k_: I only want certain numbers though, say, 2 and 3
[16:39] <tech0007> !ask | ups
[16:39] <scrosson> okay transfer speed (from disk to slave drive) is slow (1mb), is it possible to speed it up.... or should i stick to windows :S
[16:39] <ups> aps, i mean ups ;P
[16:39] <d7> Hi, why can alsa only take sound from one app at a time?
[16:40] <fritzophrenic> How do I what Video card I have? I've forgotten the exact one I put in this computer...I'm just looking for something like "device manager" in Windows
[16:41] <erUSUL> d7: depends if you can activate dmix it will take sound from many apps. Pulseaudio solves the same proberlm from userspace
[16:41] <d7> fritzophrenic: lspci
[16:41] <erUSUL> fritzophrenic: lspci | grep -i vga
[16:41] <ne2k__> virtualbox seems to be able to create raw disk images (using VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk ...), but that command is missing in the version in Ubuntu. I tried installing the -dbg package too, but that doesn't help
[16:41] <fritzophrenic> okay I can try that...is there a GUI way?
[16:41] <luisfqs> !
[16:41] <zorglu_> q. i got a ubuntu server installed in given language and would like to setup another one, where should i look ?
[16:41] <d7> erUSUL: do i really need dmix ? i thought that was only for cards that could not mix
[16:42] <legend2440> fritzophrenic: gnome-device-manager
[16:42] <Crucial> I have a problem installing ubuntu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25019/
[16:42] <erUSUL> d7: you will have to check yourself my card doesn not do hw mixing ...
[16:42] <netix> Error_loader_nocache - Unable to create cache directory.
[16:42] <netix> Runescape was unable to find a suitable place to store its temporary files. To solve this please either:
[16:42] <netix> # Login to your computer as an 'administator' user, and then try loading RuneScape again. This should give it sufficient access to create its temporary cache.
[16:42] <netix> # Or, create a new directory called c:/rscache or /rscache. If possible, set that directory to have full read+write permissions so that all users can write to it. Runescape should then detect that directory and use it for its files. How i can do somthing of it on ubuntu??
[16:42] <FloodBot1> netix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <d7> erUSUL: its onboard audio, so nothing fancy, but ive never needed dmix on other distros for it
[16:43] <fritzophrenic> legend2440, I'm brand new to linux, does that come with Ubuntu somewhere, or do I need to find it in the package manager and install it?
[16:43] <erUSUL> d7: maybe you did but didn't realize was being used ...
[16:43] <dholbach> Global Bug Jam Preparation Session in #ubuntu-meeting in 16 minutes.
[16:44] <d7> erUSUL: i doubt it, i used to be a gentoo and slackware user, they hardly did it all for you heh, still ill try dmix
[16:44] <legend2440> fritzophrenic: its in synaptic  or in terminal type   sudo apt-get install gnome-device-manager
[16:44] <Arnos> Hi, how do I do a search for a file with a certain name name, then one of several possible numbers like 3, 4 or 7, then a certain extension? Please help.
[16:44] <ne2k__> I'm very glad openoffice got fixed, btw
[16:45] <jbroome> i didn't know it was broken. :)
[16:46] <ne2k__> Arnos: find -regex filname[2345].jpg
[16:46] <Crucial> Hey, I have a problem installing ubuntu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25019/
[16:47] <matteo_> hi to all, anyone may explain me wot a stinky directory is? (like the tmp one in / )
[16:47] <naknomik> I want to run a script automatically when a new CD/DVD is inserted in the DVD drive. How can I do that?
[16:47] <ne2k__> matteo_: stinky directory?!
[16:47] <erUSUL> naknomik: System>Preferences>Removable media
[16:48] <Arnos> ne2k_: whats the difference between -name and -regex?
[16:48] <erUSUL> Arnos: man find ;)
[16:48] <jbroome> ne2k__: duh, ~/.local/share/Trash.  :)
[16:48] <nagyv> hello! how can I get the docstring of the __name__='__main__' file in python?
[16:48] <ne2k__> Arnos: one searches for a literal string, allowing * as a wildcard (any number of characters); the other searches for a full regex
[16:48] <Bullitje> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25024/
[16:48] <gavi> folks i cant seem to login with gnome... i removed some libgstreamer  packages from the synpatics. i tried to put them back back i still cant log in with gnome.. what can i do?
[16:48] <FarmCretin> hey, i'd like to reformat my external HDD thats connected to my ubuntu serverr to ext3, how can i do this?
[16:48] <Bullitje> what did i do wrong
[16:48] <NetTroller> g'day ....anyone know does ubuntu still freeze?
[16:48] <naknomik> erUSUL: but there are no options for DVD/CD drive.
[16:49] <ne2k__> jbroome: wut?
[16:49] <Arnos> ne2k_: so regex can't use a *?
[16:49] <Pici> nagyv: Probably a better place to ask that question would be in #python
[16:49] <jbroome> ne2k__: the stinky directory. :)
[16:49] <erUSUL> naknomik: ooops it used to be ...
[16:49]  * erUSUL confused
[16:49] <netix> Login to your computer as an 'administator' user, and then try loading RuneScape again. This should give it sufficient access to create its temporary cache. How i can do thet?
[16:49] <naknomik> erUSUL: I'm using hardy
[16:49] <nagyv> Pici: thanks
[16:49] <matteo_> if i use file command from terminal on "tmp" under / i get the print :"stinky directory". Wot does it mean? :D
[16:50] <chadkouse> hey guys this is really weird -- i have eth0 set as static in /etc/network/interfaces but it's still getting a DHCP ip
[16:50] <erUSUL> naknomik: i just checked and you are right... but i swear that previous gnome/unbuntu versions had it
[16:50] <amenado> chadkouse-> did you try to ifdown eth0 or networking restart?
[16:50] <NetTroller> nobody is freezing with hardy anymore? just me ?
[16:50] <chadkouse> yeah.. networking restart and even a server restart
[16:50] <chadkouse> http://pastebin.com/m86ace4a
[16:50] <chadkouse> am I doing something wrong ?
[16:50] <bazhang> NetTroller, that is way too vague
[16:50] <ne2k__> jbroome: why is it stinky?
[16:51] <erUSUL> matteo_: s/stinky/sticky/ ?
[16:51] <amenado> chadkouse-> server restart as in rebooting?
[16:51] <erUSUL> matteo_: it has the stcky bit set
[16:51] <chadkouse> yes
[16:51] <Felix_Krull> How can I use rpm file to install modem driver in Ubuntu?
[16:51] <amenado> !who | chadkouse
[16:51] <erUSUL> !alien | Felix_Krull
[16:51] <naknomik> erUSUL: hummm.... is that moved to somewhere else now?
[16:51] <NetTroller> bazhang: I've been freezing this lappy with hardy since I installed it..does it daily..so...is it my lappy..or is hardy still prone to feezeing as I read on forums when I installed?
[16:51] <netix> Login to your computer as an 'administator' user, and then try loading RuneScape again. This should give it sufficient access to create its temporary cache. How i can do thet?
[16:51] <chadkouse> amenado: if I reboot it will come back up with the static IP and then maybe 12 hours later it will get DHCP
[16:52] <amenado> chadkouse-> paste in pastebin your contents of interfaces file again
[16:52] <opuyiupojuy> I'm looking for a way to find out if an application I installed through synaptic is 32 bit or 64 bit... I have a 64 bit system, and the program "blender" has source available for both 32 and 64.
[16:52] <bazhang> NetTroller, what specific forum link
[16:52] <d0wn> I need some help with my Intel CS330 webcam. I checked ubuntuforums, and google for some alternative drivers, but found nothing. Right now the colors are completely off
[16:52] <chadkouse> http://pastebin.com/m86ace4a
[16:52] <erUSUL> naknomik: no idea sorry it used to be seted to launch Sounjuicer on cda and xine on dvd and things like that
[16:52] <NetTroller> bazhang:  I'll grab it...but I may freeze..hang on
[16:52] <erUSUL> opuyiupojuy: unless you force it 32 bit debs wont ionstall on a 64 bit system
[16:53] <naknomik> erUSUL: Well, the player juicer still automatically launches, but the config is gone I guess.
[16:53] <LordNeo> LoL
[16:53] <erUSUL> naknomik: :|
[16:53] <erUSUL> naknomik: maybe there is something on gconf-editor
[16:53] <netix> Login to your computer as an 'administator' user, and then try loading RuneScape again. This should give it sufficient access to create its temporary cache. How i can do thet?
[16:54] <ne2k__> jbroome: you know I totally didn't get that at all. I only think of trash as having files in it, as the place where I put my rubbish is called a bin ;-)
[16:54] <Felix_Krull> erUSUL, So it is not safe to use rmp files?
[16:54] <Bullitje> runescape WTF
[16:54] <Bullitje> i expected to find smart ppl here
[16:54] <erUSUL> Felix_Krull: not much...
[16:54] <soundray> !coc > Bullitje
[16:54] <ne2k__> any recommendations for a decent-looking programmer's editor for gnome with syntax-highlighting, code completion, etc. for perl?
[16:54] <chadkouse> amenado:
[16:54] <NetTroller> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765510  << bazhang
[16:54] <chadkouse> whoops
[16:54] <Felix_Krull> Then, I shall restrain...
[16:54] <Felix_Krull> Thanks
[16:54] <ne2k__> I installed xemacs21-gnome-nomule and it looks horrible. I then installed emacs22-nomule and it also looks horrible. is there nothing that looks GNOME-ish?
[16:54] <bazhang> Bullitje, keep it family friendly please
[16:55] <ne2k__> !coc > ne2k__
[16:55] <Bullitje> it was humourous
[16:55] <chadkouse> amenado: I actually turned off my DHCP server and then the server just had a self assigned IP after like 12 hours
[16:55] <Bullitje> not unfriendly
[16:55] <bazhang> the language Bullitje
[16:55] <magnetron> ne2k__, try gvim
[16:55] <soundray> Bullitje: there was no way to tell the difference.
[16:55] <netix> i want get acces for java cashe but i dont now how to do it... can somone help me i dont now linux...
[16:55] <amenado> chadkouse-> really? which dhcp server are you referring to?
[16:56] <opuyiupojuy> ﻿erUSUL: oh, that's great to know. so what you're saying is that anything I download from the repositories should be 64bit?
[16:56] <chadkouse> dnsmasq -- it's on another box
[16:56] <chadkouse> sorry
[16:56] <erUSUL> opuyiupojuy: yep
[16:56] <chadkouse> amenado: dnsmasq -- it's on another box
[16:56] <Crucial> !coc
[16:56] <opuyiupojuy> erUSUL: made my day! thanks a bunch.
[16:56] <erUSUL> opuyiupojuy: or arch independent (scripts and data only debs are arch indep.)
[16:56] <amenado> chadkouse-> dnsmasq is for the local use of that host not for the rest..
[16:57] <ne2k__> magnetron: trying now, thanks
[16:57] <jeremiahb> Hey there. I'm using XDMCP with hardy and the remote end is excrutiatingly slow when pressing buttons and opening menus.. I can't seem to find any errors regarding it in any logs. Any ideas?
[16:57] <chadkouse> amenado: I was just using it to network boot -- it works ok.
[16:57] <opuyiupojuy> awesome
[16:57] <netix> i want get acces for java cashe but i dont now how to do it... can somone help me i dont now linux...
[16:57] <chadkouse> amenado: it's got a built in dhcp server... and it is working unfortunately!
[16:57] <amenado> chadkouse-> huh? you are booting via the network?
[16:57] <michalxo> Does anyone knows, how to use APT in local network (2 PCs connected do internet through AP) that will download "downloaded" packages from another pc?
[16:57] <chadkouse> amenado: not any more -- just to initially install ubuntu
[16:57] <chadkouse> amenado: servers don't have CD drives so it's easiest to just boot from the network
[16:58] <vlt> Hello. I changed my swap partition. Which files do I have to edit now to make suspend to disk working again? Where does the kernel know where to resume from ...?
[16:58] <amenado> chadkouse-> okay, but i have not seen your interfaces file yet
[16:58] <netix> i want get acces for java cahe but i dont now how to do it... can somone help me i dont now linux...
[16:58] <magnetron> vlt, it's in the fstab
[16:58] <chadkouse> that pastebin should have had it
[16:58] <chadkouse> you mean /etc/network/interfaces right ?
[16:59] <ne2k__> magnetron: can vim be made to use emacs keybindings?
[16:59] <Crucial> Hey, I'm having problems trying to install Ubuntu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25019/
[16:59] <netix> i want get acces for java cahe but i dont now how to do it... can somone help me i dont now linux...
[16:59] <chadkouse> amenado: that pastebin should have had it -- you mean /etc/network/interfaces right ?
[17:00] <amenado> chadkouse-> what pastebin? i didnt see nothing, i reminded you of using my nick on your responses..or it will be missed
[17:00] <vlt> magnetron: Do you mean the "swap" line or do I need a special "resume partition" line?
[17:00] <legend2440> naknomik: open nautilus>preferences>media   is that what you are looking for?
[17:00] <netix> i want get acces for java cahe but i dont now how to do it... can somone help me i dont now linux...
[17:00] <chadkouse> ah..
[17:00] <chadkouse> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m86ace4a
[17:00] <naknomik> legend2440: lemme check
[17:00] <magnetron> vlt, the swap IS the "resume partition". it needs to bigger than your RAM
[17:01] <vlt> michalxo: When updating several machines in one LAN I usually use a shared /var/cache/apt/archives directory over NFS or sshfs.
[17:01] <netix> i want get acces for java cahe but i dont now how to do it... can somone help me i dont now linux...
[17:01] <ne2k__> mmm, trying cream
[17:01] <zorglu_> magnetron: why is it needed ?
[17:01] <vlt> magnetron: The swap entry in fstab is fine. swap is working and is even bigger than before.
[17:01]  * zorglu_ is playing evil :)
[17:01] <amenado> chadkouse-> try to have a more complete settings, put in the settings for network and broadcast
[17:01] <naknomik> legend2440: no, I want to run my own script.
[17:02] <naknomik> legend2440: and that option doesn't seem to be there.
[17:02] <michalxo> vlt, oh "D no way, how to make it in 1 cmd by default configuration of both hardys?
[17:02] <netix> where i can find help?? is here everyone sleeping here are about 1300 users and only 10 active
[17:02] <chadkouse> amenado: that's no problem I can do that... but I don't think that's causing it to revert to DHCP
[17:03] <amenado> chadkouse-> anyhow that seems okay..once you run your  networking restart you still not getting a static ip address?
[17:03] <legend2440> naknomik: what do you want it do do?
[17:03] <legend2440> to
[17:03] <magnetron> vlt, make sure that it's really enabled.
[17:03] <vlt> magnetron: Where to check that?
[17:03] <chadkouse> amenado: no I get a static ip if I restart networking.... but then like 12 hours later it either goes back to a DHCP ip (if my DHCP server is running) or it goes to a 169
[17:03] <netix> i want get acces for java cahe but i dont now how to do it... can somone help me i dont now linux...
[17:03] <naknomik> legend2440: As soon as a DVD is inserted, I want to run my script which will rip the DVD using handbrake
[17:03] <amenado> chadkouse-> and are you sure you are not booting from the network anymore? you have adjusted your bios settings?
[17:04] <ne2k__> naknomik: MUST... RIP... MORE... FILMS...
[17:04] <chadkouse> amenado: yeah -- network is after HD
[17:04]  * naknomik has modest DVD collection, only about 100 or so.
[17:04] <amenado> chadkouse-> i doubt it, that it attempts to get a dhcp address once you have these settings
[17:04] <netix> i want get acces for java cahe but i dont now how to do it... can somone help me i dont now linux...
[17:04] <mannytu> netix: did you try the java rm?
[17:04] <bazhang> !ot
[17:04] <magnetron> vlt, when you edit partitions you need to update fstab. if you don't do this, swap won't work
[17:05] <vlt> magnetron: swap works fine
[17:05] <chadkouse> amenado: heh...  you think I'm making it up ?
[17:05] <NetTroller> bazhang: thanks ...I read thru some of the posts and see its still a freeze problem with hardy..pretty sure it isn't my lappy...I'm wondering about going to another distro
[17:05] <chadkouse> this morning I was unable to reach that server... I turned my DHCP server back on.. tailed /etc/dnsmasq.leases and within 2 minutes saw it get an IP
[17:05] <magnetron> vlt, did you edit your fstab to reflect the new UUID?
[17:05] <Crucial> amenado: Hey, I'm having problems trying to install Ubuntu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25019/
[17:05] <amenado> chadkouse-> i dont know, but i do not expect it to get a dynamic address per those settings
[17:05] <bazhang> NetTroller, care to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:05] <vlt> magnetron: Yes.
[17:05] <chadkouse> amenado: yeah me either.....
[17:05] <vlt> magnetron: only resuming from suspend-to-disk fails since I changed the swap partition
[17:06] <chadkouse> amenado: I wonder if there is something else that is controlling network settings ?
[17:06] <vlt> michalxo: Can you describe more clearly what you want to do?
[17:06] <chadkouse> amenado: this is really a pretty much plain install of ubuntu server.. i have openssh server, apache2, linux, and curl installed.. that's about it
[17:06] <amenado> chadkouse-> what do you have it set in network manager?
[17:06] <chadkouse> amenado: I'm unfamiliar with that... what do you mean ?
[17:07] <amenado> chadkouse-> do you have that nm-applet icon on the top ?
[17:07] <chadkouse> amenado: no gui
[17:07] <legend2440> naknomik: something like this?          http://wdawe.com/index.php/running-a-shell-script-when-a-dvd-is-ins?blog=1
[17:08] <amenado> chadkouse okay cool, now check what you have in  /etc/udev/event.d/   about networks
[17:08] <chadkouse> don't have an event.d
[17:08] <chadkouse> have rules.d or udev.conf
[17:08] <naknomik> legend2440: this is exactly what I'm looking for.
[17:09] <chadkouse> amenado: don't have an event.d, have rules.d or udev.conf
[17:09]  * naknomik is very grateful to legend2440
[17:09] <Chikubu> ﻿m trying t run ltsp-build-client with mirror file:/mnt/iso/ubuntu8.04  its giving me W: Failed to fetch file:/mnt/iso/ubuntu8.04/dists/hardy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  File not found   error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally, is there some way to tweak my sources list so that it will build offline without the humongous download?  also  does it create a pxelinux.0 file when done?  it still downloads security updates when pointed to the l
[17:09] <amenado> chadkouse-> yeah rules.d   not event.d
[17:09] <Chikubu> the Packages.gz is there btw
[17:09] <Crucial> !paste | Chikubu
[17:09] <Chikubu> yeah i typed that not pasted
[17:10] <amenado> chadkouse-> go see the scripts 70 and 85 rules
[17:10] <chadkouse> all I have is device naming in 70-persistent-net.rules
[17:10] <chadkouse> amenado: all I have is device naming in 70-persistent-net.rules
[17:10] <hiptobecubic> how can you open RAW images in ubuntu?
[17:10] <Crucial> pastebin is a website to send multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel
[17:10] <amenado> chadkouse-> look inside it
[17:10] <Chikubu> realy? wow
[17:11] <chadkouse> amenado: that's what I mean.. it's just naming eth0 / eth1 based on mac addresses it looks like
[17:11] <chadkouse> amenado: want a paste ?
[17:11] <Red_Wraith> Hello all.
[17:11] <chadkouse> amenado: http://pastebin.com/de54b6be
[17:11] <amenado> chadkouse-> go ahead
[17:11] <Crucial> Chikubu: yeah, double click http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste your problem there, then send us the link
[17:12] <amenado> chadkouse-> look also in 75 and 85 rules
[17:13] <ne2k__> hiptobecubic: what do you mean open it? with open()?
[17:13] <chadkouse> amenado: it all looks clean -- I'm not 100% sure we've rebooted this server since we changed from DHCP to Static -- so let me try that and see if it clears up
[17:13] <ne2k__> chadkouse: ps auwx |grep dhcpcd
[17:13] <Alokito> how to make the cube sphere?
[17:14] <hiptobecubic> ne2k__, no i mean i want to load and edit RAW format images from my Canon DSLR
[17:14] <amenado> chadkouse-> go ahead and reboot
[17:14] <chadkouse> ne2k__: nothing
[17:14] <ne2k__> hiptobecubic: gimp, maybe?
[17:14] <sure> hi
[17:14] <chadkouse> amenado: ok I'll do that -- I won't know if it is working until probably tomorrow though :P
[17:14] <ne2k__> chadkouse: or dhclient?
[17:14] <ne2k__> chadkouse: ps auwx |grep dhclient
[17:15] <chadkouse> ne2k__: sudo ps auwx | grep dhc
[17:15] <chadkouse> ne2k__: nothing :)
[17:15] <Crucial> amenado: Hey, I'm having problems trying to install Ubuntu:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25019/
[17:15] <amenado> Crucial-> what seems were the problem during install?
[17:15] <ne2k__> chadkouse: very very strange.
[17:15] <hiptobecubic> ne2k__, it says it needs a plugin, which i installed using synaptic but it still wasn't working properly. I didn't know if there was something in particular that i had to do
[17:15] <chadkouse> yeah I dunno.. maybe when you netboot the netboot agent is  trying to control the IP address?  I'll try a reboot and see if that clears it up
[17:15] <Crucial> amenado: The loading halted
[17:16] <chadkouse> amenado: ne2k__: thanks
[17:16] <ne2k__> ignore netix
[17:16] <krypto> erUSUL, gracias, ha quedado :D
[17:16] <Crucial> amenado: there is a log of what appears on the screen when it is loading
[17:16] <amenado> chadkouse-> you dont have to reboot all the way, try to got to single user and back to init level 5
[17:16] <ne2k__> !es |krypto
[17:17] <amenado> Crucial-> i dont  see anything glaring that gives a hint,  it just stalls? you waited long enuff? like 20 minutes?
[17:17] <Crucial> amenado: like hours
[17:17] <chadkouse> amenado: too late already did a full reboot... it came back up with the correct IP.. so we'll see
[17:17] <ne2k__> netix: why are you messaging me?
[17:18] <mgross> Are there any pages on how to get started with xorg development on Ubuntu?
[17:18] <amenado> Crucial-> perhaps you have to use the alternatecd instead of the livecd ...try that
[17:18] <erUSUL> mgross: www.freedesktop.org ??
[17:18] <ne2k__> amenado: Ubuntu uses upstart, not init
[17:18] <netix> ne2k: because i need your help
[17:18] <vlt> Does anyone know where to set the swap partition that should be used for suspend-to-disk (and resuming)?
[17:18] <Crucial> amenado: what is the difference?
[17:18] <amenado> ne2k__-> am aware, but upstart as of now also simulate init levels
[17:18] <ne2k__> netix: ask in the channel. if someone can help you, they will. if they can't, they won't. don't message people.
[17:19] <mgross> erUSUL: freedesktop.org doesn't help with running the new bits on a ubuntu 8x desktop
[17:19] <erUSUL> vlt: during install is configured a swap partition but you can add one at any time in fstab
[17:19] <netix> ne2k: and noone cant help me i alredy ask
[17:19] <amenado> Crucial-> i dont know the fine details but if you read the download sites, it kind of explain if livecd dont work, try the alternatecd
[17:19] <netix> but somone can but just dont uderstand me because i am bad at eanglish
[17:19] <ne2k__> netix: how long ago did you last ask your question?
[17:19] <netix> 5 min
[17:20] <netix> 10 min
[17:20] <Crucial> amenado: ok, thanks, I'll try it
[17:20] <soundray> vlt: the kernel takes a resume= parameter with a value of a device name (e.g. /dev/sda5)
[17:20] <ne2k__> netix: leave it another twenty-five, then you can probably legitimately ask again.
[17:20] <netix> i want get acces for java cahe but i dont now how to do it... can somone help me i dont now linux...
[17:20] <xenoglossia> Hi!  I'm having trouble formating my 7.8 GB USB flash drive.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25032/  What am I doing wrong?
[17:20] <ne2k__> netix: what do you mean you want to get access to the java cache?
[17:20] <erUSUL> netix: probably most people are confused about what tou call "java cache" ??
[17:21] <bazhang> netix, you want to save youtube flash streams?
[17:21] <vlt> soundray: hmm, "resume=..." is missing currently on menu.lst. I'll try adding it, thanks.
[17:22] <millertime_018> i need some help. using virtualbox
[17:22] <ne2k__> xenoglossia: cool nick, btw. have you actually made a fat32 filesystem on /dev/sdg2? why do you want to use fat32 anyway?
[17:22] <soundray> vlt: the parameter is not needed if there is only one swap partition. By default, the kernel assumes that a single swap partition is also the resume partition.
[17:22] <ne2k__> millertime_018: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[17:23] <RAdam1> Getting a lot of these: psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request from my ALPS Glidepoint on a Dell Latitude D800. Anyone have any suggestions on how to track down why it's losing sync?
[17:23] <ne2k__> ubottu: nickometer xenoglossia
[17:23] <millertime_018> ne2k_: can you help me
[17:23] <RAdam1> !ask | millertime_018
[17:23] <ne2k__> millertime_018: ask your question. if someone can help you, they will. if they can't, they won't.
[17:24] <xenoglossia> ne2k__, I've tried all sorts of filesystems -- nothing's worked so far :)  There's no special reason I want fat32.
[17:24] <ne2k__> xenoglossia: why do you want two partitions anyway?
[17:24] <RAdam1> xenoglossia: fat32 is the filesystem satan uses. what do you need to do with this partition?
[17:24] <millertime_018> ne2k_: i am dual booting vista and ubuntu. now i have virtualbox installed on ubuntu and i want to be able to boot vista from my other disk while i'm in ubuntu
[17:25] <kantor> hi, how is that if I compare the md5sums from Ubuntu version 8.04 with 8.04.1 they are the same ?
[17:25] <kantor> the DVD ISO images
[17:25] <enterneo> is there a way to get netbeans 6.1 from the repositories, i don't prefer installing from the shell script, i prefer using repos :D
[17:25] <RAdam1> millertime_018: ubuntu can read and write ntfs if the package ntfs-3g is installed. Windows can read ext3 if you install the utility from www.driver-fs.org
[17:26] <amenado> enterneo-> doesnt the shell script uses the repo?
[17:26] <xenoglossia> ne2k__, I'm trying to make a live usb flash drive.  sdg2 will contain the "system files," sdg1 will be storage (accessible in Windows, too)
[17:26] <millertime_018> RAdam1: what will all of that do? and how will it help me make a virtual windows?
[17:26] <mistergibson> is there a gtk app that lets me control print jobs (gnome) ?
[17:26] <vlt> soundray: I'm back. It worked. I added "resume=/dev/sda7" in grub edit mode. Still don't know why it didn't work before. I only have one swap partition. hmmm ...
[17:26] <enterneo> amenado: the netbeans website has a .sh 150 MB file as the installer
[17:26] <RAdams> millertime_018: I was giving you ways to avoid using fat32
[17:26] <jelmer> mistergibson: if you're using cups, gnome-cups-manager
[17:26] <mistergibson> thanks
[17:27] <ne2k__> millertime_018: I was actually trying to do this earlier today. you need to use the VBoxManager utility to create a raw vmdk file, but the version of virtualbox that comes with ubuntu doesn't seem to have the utility in it. you might try qemu, though
[17:27] <vlt> Btw, what does the line "quiet" mean in GRUB?
[17:27] <kantor> the md5sums are equal for the CD iso images too, why ?
[17:27] <soundray> vlt: you get extra info during boot if you delete it. I always do, mainly for entertainment ;)
[17:27] <amenado> enterneo-> in that 150megs you get along all kind of stuff..
[17:27] <netix> i want play java based game and it needs to crate chae but it cant create.. i dont now why and i dont now how to fix it..
[17:27] <YeaSt> have any of installed with 8.04.1?
[17:28] <millertime_018> ne2k_: right now i am creating a vfixed size virtual disk file
[17:28] <YeaSt> I asked, but nobody replied me
[17:28] <RAdams> soundray: you have a sick sense of the entertaining
[17:28] <ne2k__> millertime_018: how will this help you boot an existing partition?
[17:28] <RAdams> !ask | YeaSt
[17:28] <millertime_018> ne2k_:idk... it was just in the steps that virtual box gave when i started it after i had installed it
[17:29] <ne2k__> millertime_018: it's also worth trying out wine to see if you can use it to do what you want. but you should visit winehq.org and follow the steps there to add wine's repository so you can get v1.1.0. Ubuntu ships with a broken, old version of wine
[17:30] <netix> i want play java based game and it needs to crate chae but it cant create.. i play it througt firefox but the eror is: was unable to find a suitable place to store its temporary files. To solve this please either:
[17:30] <netix> # Login to your computer as an 'administator' user, and then try loading RuneScape again. This should give it sufficient access to create its temporary cache.
[17:30] <netix> # Or, create a new directory called c:/rscache or /rscache. If possible, set that directory to have full read+write permissions so that all users can write to it. Runescape should then detect that directory and use it for its files.
[17:30] <soundray> netix: try starting it with sudo (if you trust the developers of the game)
[17:30] <millertime_018> ne2k_: i already have wine installed.
[17:30] <ne2k__> xenoglossia: have you actually done mkdosfs on /dev/sdg2?
[17:30] <netix> soundray: i am new user can you help me steb by step i dont now how to acces it
[17:31] <ne2k__> soundray: good luck
[17:31] <soundray> netix: actually, don't start it with sudo, there is a safer way to try:
[17:31] <xenoglossia> ne2k__, Sorry.  What's mkdosfs?
[17:31] <soundray> netix: have you got a terminal open?
[17:31] <netix> yes i will
[17:31] <millertime_018> ne2k_: ok. lets just start from the beginning. I am dual booting vista and ubuntu- how will i use ubuntu to boot vista virtually from the first partition?
[17:32] <mx-tvt> netix, you shouldn't start the game as root. just create the folder as they ask.
[17:32] <soundray> netix: run 'sudo mkdir /rscache' (it will ask for your user password, then return to the $ prompt)
[17:32] <netix> soundray: i have opened it
[17:32] <soundray> mx-tvt: I'm handling it
[17:32] <nerdy> need some help installing the network driver for intel wireless/pro nic for laptop
[17:32] <joel__> hi, does anyone else have a problem when trying to suspend or hibernate hardy?
[17:32] <ne2k__> xenoglossia: using fdisk to create a partition and set the partition type doesn't actually write anything into the partition
[17:32] <Anarhist> i've right clicked on the file, and selected 'properties' that was about 20 minutes ago, i want my properties window
[17:32] <ne2k__> xenoglossia: the mkfs.* utilities are used to create a filesystem in a partition
[17:32] <netix> and now it need work?
[17:32] <mx-tvt> soundray, yes, and you first told him to start the game with sudo
[17:33] <soundray> netix: then run 'sudo chown $USER:$USER /rscache'
[17:33] <soundray> mx-tvt: yes, and I took it back immediately.
[17:33] <tbs> how do i hack a gibson
[17:33] <millertime_018> ne2k_:?
[17:33] <soundray> mx-tvt: I also added a warning
[17:33] <Finux1> hey
[17:33] <ne2k__> millertime_018: you need to persuade whatever emulator you're using to use a raw disk. with qemu this is easy, you just run qemu /dev/sda (with a few more options if you want them); with VirtualBox you need to create a vmdk file with the correct settings in it, which I don't know how to do
[17:34] <ne2k__> millertime_018: so, have you tried qemu yet?
[17:34] <Finux1> anyone got an idea why the application vino-session is missing
[17:34] <rbarbo>  hi
[17:34] <rbarbo> anyone got tiem to help me?
[17:34] <ne2k__> millertime_018: btw, my nick is ne2k__, not ne2k_. if you type ne2k_ I don't get a notification that someone has typed something to me
[17:34] <soundray> Finux1: what is it for?
[17:34] <Anarhist> rbarbo, don't ask to ask
[17:35] <netix> yes next?
[17:35] <mx-tvt> soundray, didn't notice you took it back. anyway, I believe you should never tell anyone to use sudo, unless it is strictly necessary. sudo-habbit is what makes most users get into trouble.
[17:35] <ne2k__> !ask | rbarbo
[17:35] <Finux1> vino-session starts a session for vino xD
[17:35] <cakey> hai guise
[17:35] <xenoglossia> I just tried: sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n ubuntu /dev/sdg2  -- it didn't seem to do anything.
[17:35] <rbarbo> im sorry. I need to make my USB stick bootable, but i failed.
[17:35] <ne2k__> xenoglossia: what are you expecting it to do?
[17:35] <ne2k__> rbarbo: what have you tried?
[17:35] <soundray> mx-tvt: thanks. Are you done lecturing now?
[17:35] <xenoglossia> Make it so that I can mount sdg2
[17:36] <ne2k__> xenoglossia: can you mount it?
[17:36] <rbarbo> i tried this link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html
[17:36] <makahara> who knows linux popular packet generator???
[17:36] <xenoglossia> ne2k__, no
[17:36] <rbarbo> but im stuck at this step
[17:36] <ne2k__> xenoglossia: what happens?
[17:36] <rbarbo> http://rafb.net/p/bsxUpn85.html
[17:36] <soundray> netix: try running it again now
[17:37] <millertime_018> ne2k__: ok i typed qemu in the search box of the add/remove applications  and i got qemu launcher and qemulator. which one?
[17:37] <netix> soundray: dont work
[17:37] <soundray> netix: same error?
[17:37] <jbroome> millertime_018: quemu is short for qemulator
[17:37] <magnetron> millertime_018, i recommend qemulator
[17:37] <xenoglossia> When I do this: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdg2 /media/disk, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25038/
[17:37] <magnetron> jbroome, qemulator is a frontend to qemu, millertime_018
[17:38] <millertime_018> magnetron: ok thanx
[17:38] <ne2k__> millertime_018: just install the package qemu; sudo apt-get install qemu
[17:38] <netix> yes
[17:38] <soundray> netix: did you run 'sudo chown $USER:$USER /rscache'?
[17:38] <netix> yes i run it
[17:38] <xenoglossia> ne2k__, Sorry, I keep forgetting to put your nickname at the front -- I'm kind 'a new :)
[17:38] <soundray> netix: did it give you an error?
[17:38] <ne2k__> jbroome: wrong. qemulator is a package that is "a solution for easy setup and managemnt of qemu"
[17:38] <millertime_018> ne2k__: is that the same as if i use the add/remove applications manager?
[17:38] <netix> no
[17:39] <mx-tvt> soundray, you were the one who got all territorial when I answered netix. I wonder why
[17:39] <ne2k__> millertime_018: to all intents and purposes, yes
[17:39] <ne2k__> millertime_018: you can install one of the other ones if you want. I haven't used them so I can't help you with them
[17:39] <bazhang> mx-tvt, sudo is ubuntu way; do not recommend otherwise here please
[17:39] <makahara> Do you know popular packet generator?
[17:39] <soundray> netix: please paste the output of 'ls -l /rscache'
[17:39] <netix> can i run firefox like root?
[17:39] <soundray> netix: please paste the output of 'ls -ld /rscache'
[17:39] <soundray> netix: sorry, second one is correct
[17:39] <ne2k__> netix: oh. my. gosh.
[17:39] <geek_inn2> netix whats the catch
[17:40] <adac> hi
[17:40] <bazhang> netix, bad idea
[17:40] <geek_inn2> why u want2 do that
[17:40] <ne2k__> millertime_018: I'm installing qemulator and qemu-launcher so ignore that last comment
[17:40] <netix> 'ls -l /rscache
[17:40] <netix> total 0
[17:40] <mx-tvt> bazhang, did you even understand what I meant? I was saying that you shouldn't run games/apps using sudo cause many times you'll run into problems because of that. commands are fine :)
[17:40] <adac> would need a java program for my k800i sony ericsson that can remote control my ubuntu via bluetooth...is there such an app?
[17:40] <bazhang> mx-tvt, as in gksudo?
[17:41] <soundray> mx-tvt: I didn't get territorial, I stated a fact. It was necessary, because you obviously (and later admittedly) didn't follow the conversation.
[17:41] <netix> soundray: output from second one drwxrwxrwx 2 netix netix 4096 2008-07-04 19:32 /rscache
[17:42] <geek_inn2> any hyderabad locals
[17:42] <bazhang> !in
[17:42] <bazhang> geek_inn2, ^^
[17:42] <SkarVeN> geek_inn2, bhojanam ayindaa?
[17:43] <soundray> netix: you have done everything that the error message was suggesting. I can't tell you why it still doesn't work.
[17:43] <amenado> adac-> i dont know, you have the latest toy gadget, look for vnc for embedded systems?
[17:43] <millertime_018> ne2k__: ok now i'm deleting the 30gb vdi image i just made. how do i make the image type you said?
[17:43] <adac> amenado: well that's a nice idea...thx!
[17:43] <GSaldana> hello, can anyone help me setup exim4 on hardy?
[17:43] <ne2k__> millertime_018: no need to make any image. just run qemu-launcher, type /dev/sda (if that is your hard disk) into hard disk 0 and press launch
[17:43] <geek_inn2> wow,bazhag whatz ur yahoo id
[17:44] <mattgyver83> When i restart my computer, my wired internet connection is not recognized.  I have to ifup the connection in order to reconnect.  This didnt happen until upgrading to 8.04, has anyone heard of this?
[17:44] <geek_inn2> sakrven too
[17:44] <ne2k__> millertime_018: you may have to make a few changes to get the permissions
[17:44] <millertime_018> ne2k__: what?!
[17:44] <soundray> mattgyver83: is it set to roaming?
[17:44] <amenado> matteo_-> can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[17:44] <mattgyver83> Soundray, i will check.
[17:44] <amenado> mattgyver83-> _-> can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[17:44] <ne2k__> millertime_018: what's the problem?
[17:45] <fritzophrenic_> hey, is there a keyboard shortcut to force-quit an application?
[17:45] <millertime_018> ne2k__: ok i have just opened qemulator...
[17:45] <SkarVeN> clear
[17:45] <^who^> hello need help regarding xubuntu
[17:45] <ne2k__> millertime_018: don't use that, use qemu-launcher
[17:45] <SkarVeN> err!
[17:45] <krisd> hello
[17:45] <soundray> amenado: please don't tell people to paste -- otherwise sooner or later someone will paste in the channel and get banned ( mattgyver83)
[17:45] <joel__> hi, does anyone else have a problem when trying to suspend or hibernate hardy?
[17:45] <millertime_018> ne2k__: will you just guide me through?
[17:45] <amenado> fritzophrenic-> i knew of one...alt-f4
[17:45] <fritzophrenic_> I've got a locked-up app running in WINE that I can't get out of
[17:45] <mattgyver83> soundray, no it is not set for roaming.
[17:45] <ne2k__> millertime_018: yep. open a terminal, type qemu-launcher...
[17:45] <soundray> !pastebin > mattgyver83, please pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[17:45] <amenado> soundray-> i will add on pastebin..
[17:46] <amenado> soundray-> its hard to type with a cup of joe on one hand
[17:46] <millertime_018> ne2k__: which will launch qemu- launcher right?
[17:46] <ne2k__> millertime_018: errm, yeah... ;-)
[17:46] <soundray> amenado: :)
[17:46] <^who^> anyone here uses xubuntu?
[17:46] <fritzophrenic_> how can I kill a locked-up application that won't give up focus?
[17:47] <millertime_018> ne2k__: ill tell you when i have qemulauncher open
[17:47] <soundray> ^who^: just ask your question, or try in #xubuntu
[17:47] <^who^> laptop hangs after a while
[17:47] <millertime_018> ne2k__: ok now i have qeumlator and qemu launcher open
[17:47] <saint-takeshi> fritzoprenic_: alt+f2, xkill, click it
[17:47] <ne2k__> millertime_018: don't run qemulator, kill that
[17:47] <rbarbo> people, how do i unmount fs in terminal?
[17:48] <rbarbo> "unmount" isnt working
[17:48] <^who^> specially when loading web pictures
[17:48] <mattgyver83> soundray, amenado, pasted @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/25039/
[17:48] <millertime_018> ne2k__: i wont use it at all? should i uninstall it?
[17:48] <saint-takeshi> rbarbo: it's umount
[17:48] <amenado> millertime_018-> look into using the new'er fangled  virtualizations like openvz or xen
[17:48] <soundray> rbarbo: make sure any shell you have running is cd'd away from the mount
[17:48] <fritzophrenic_> how can I kill a locked-up application that won't give up focus?
[17:48] <joel__> hi, does anyone else have a problem when trying to suspend or hibernate hardy?
[17:48] <ne2k__> fritzophrenic: if that doesn't work, ctrl-alt-f1, ps auwx |less, find the pid, kill -9 pid, ctrl-f7 to get back to x
[17:48] <fritzophrenic_> oh, sorry...missed that
[17:49] <ne2k__> millertime_018: if you like. but don't worry at the moment. I have two minutes more and then i have to go home, so hurry
[17:49] <xenoglossia> any ideas?
[17:49] <rbarbo> rbarbo@kubuntu-desktop:~$ sudo umount /dev/sdd
[17:49] <rbarbo> umount: /dev/sdd: not mounted
[17:49] <amenado> millertime_018-> where is the auto eth0? missing?
[17:49] <rbarbo> it says this.........
[17:49] <soundray> mattgyver83: add a 'auto eth0' line ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/25041/)
[17:49] <rbarbo> but in Kde, i can access it and all
[17:49] <ne2k__> !paste |rbarbo
[17:49] <mattgyver83> soundray, amenado, should it read dhcp as opposed to static for the eth0 line as well?
[17:49] <millertime_018> ne2k__: ok i have qemu launcher open. now what?
[17:49] <mattgyver83> its not a static IP
[17:49] <soundray> mattgyver83: probably
[17:50] <mattgyver83> I will change that as well.
[17:50] <ne2k__> millertime_018: where it says hard drive 0, type /dev/sda, and press launch
[17:50] <soundray> mattgyver83: delete the address, netmask and gateway lines in that case (or comment them)
[17:50] <mattgyver83> soundray, it is a static internal ip address, however the external is dhcp, should i just leave it alone?
[17:50] <frenzy42> i need help umounting a volume that is not in fstab
[17:50] <millertime_018> ne2k__: i dont think it worked
[17:50] <amenado> mattgyver83-> and add  auto eth0
[17:51] <soundray> mattgyver83: I don't know, you know your setup better than I do
[17:51] <millertime_018> ne2k__: ok i typed it. not sure it worked though
[17:51] <frenzy42> i get this error when i umount "umount: /home/gregg/virtual-drives/Vice City PLAY is not in the fstab (and you are not root)"
[17:51] <mattgyver83> k
[17:51] <nir> hi  I''ve installed ubuntu 8.04 on a 1.7ghz 512 ram IBM laptop the other day. today I herd that xbunubtu could prove faster - is there a real difference? tnx
[17:51] <chowder> http://forums.techguy.org/unix-linux/727265-minimal-install-debootstrap.html#post5968587
[17:51] <soundray> mattgyver83: considering that ifup eth0 works, I would leave it on static
[17:51] <ne2k__> millertime_018: did somethign appear in the terminal you launched qemu-launcher from? pastebin it or pm me if it's short
[17:51] <chowder> Thread that I created. Help please. http://forums.techguy.org/unix-linux/727265-minimal-install-debootstrap.html#post5968587
[17:52] <mattgyver83> ok
[17:52] <millertime_018> i didnt launch it from the terminal
[17:52] <mattgyver83> I will restart and see if the changes fix this.
[17:52] <millertime_018> ne2k__: i didn't launch it from the terminal
[17:52] <Gargolas> hello every1
[17:52] <wigren> I have a new laptop (less then 6 months old) that was giving me trouble booting up. I backed up all of my data and did a clean install. The clean install started to hang on the first boot and my numlock indicator light started to flash. I figured a clean disk wipe with DBAN might do some good, but it gives me an error that my disk has bad sectors. any help?
[17:52] <MGrunde> If anyone could look at my xorg.conf, I'd really appreciate it.  Ubuntu doesn't like it, but I'm not sure what I've done wrong.  It's at http://pastebin.com/d233cc1fe
[17:53] <ne2k__> millertime_018: this was your error. I said to open a terminal and type qemu-launcher
[17:53] <millertime_018> ne2k__: ok i did this is what appeared. /usr/bin/qemu -boot c -m 128 -hda '/dev/sda' -net nic,vlan=0 -net user,vlan=0 -localtime &
[17:53] <millertime_018> qemu: could not open disk image /dev/sda
[17:53] <soundray> nir: stick with gnome, unless you find it sluggish.
[17:53] <chowder> This is a thread that I created. I need help doing a minimal install. Please read it and if you can help, PM me. http://forums.techguy.org/unix-linux/727265-minimal-install-debootstrap.html#post5968587
[17:53] <millertime_018> ne2k__: i just ran it in the terminal
[17:53] <Rev> hello ppl
[17:53] <Gargolas> can any1 plz link me the files for netinstall on a g3 ibook?
[17:53] <acer_> how to install intel graphic media accelerator 950 on ubuntu 8.04
[17:53] <millertime_018> ne2k__: and i gave you what appeared in the terminal
[17:53] <soundray> nir: you can safely try a parallel xubuntu installation -- just 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' and choose at the gdm login which type of session to run.
[17:53] <Rev> is tracker-applet compatible with xcfe?
[17:54] <ne2k__> millertime_018: ok. stop qemu-launcher, then do the following at the terminal: sudo adduser <yourusername> disk; newgrp disk; qemu-launcher;
[17:54] <Rev> i installed it on my xubuntu, but cant make it run
[17:54] <Rev> :/
[17:54] <MGrunde> wigren, do another test to confirm the bad sectors, then REM the hard drive to the OEM
[17:54] <Gargolas> my cd tray broke on my machine and am gonna try to do a net install
[17:54] <smultron> anyone in here use rdiff-backup? i'm getting an error message about mirror files not matching the source
[17:54] <soundray> !install > Gargolas
[17:54] <millertime_018> ne2k__: kill qemu launcher and run it?
[17:54] <Gargolas> kk
[17:54] <wigren> MGrunde: you mean try DBAN again?
[17:54] <chowder> nir: i suggest that you only install xfce and not the xubuntu metapackage.
[17:55] <ne2k__> millertime_018: your user by default doesn't have raw disk access. adding your user to the "disk" group allows this.
[17:55] <acer_> how to install intel graphic media accelerator 950 on ubuntu 8.04?anyone
[17:55] <ne2k__> millertime_018: just do what I said
[17:55] <cilum> aiuto
[17:55] <acer_> how to install intel graphic media accelerator 950 on ubuntu 8.04?anyone
[17:55] <fritzophrenic_> so, I'm guessing CTRL-alt-f1 is supposed to bring me to the terminal...what is going on if the screen just shows a random pattern of color?
[17:55] <cilum> qualcuno mi aiuta
[17:55] <jpds> !it | cilum
[17:55] <ne2k__> fritzophrenic: then you're completely and utterly screwed. ;-)
[17:55] <Gargolas> tyvm ubottu
[17:55] <acer_> how to install intel graphic media accelerator 950 on ubuntu 8.04?anyone
[17:55] <acer_> hh
[17:55] <MGrunde> wigren, sure, or a different testing program, whatever you prefer
[17:56] <ne2k__> fritzophrenic: if you don't mind losing all of what's happening in X, you can press ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X
[17:56] <dr_Willis> fritzophrenic,  ive seen it do that when the framebuffer has issues with the video card drivers.
[17:56] <Gargolas> is ubottu a bot?
[17:56] <millertime_018> ne2k__: whoa it worked!
[17:56] <dr_Willis> fritzophrenic, i often disable the 'framebuffer' on such machines.
[17:56] <millertime_018> but now it wont boot...
[17:56] <dr_Willis> Gargolas,  yes.
[17:56] <nir> thank you, I'll give it a go "as is" for few more days
[17:56] <soundray> fritzophrenic_: your graphics card or monitor is confused. Try switching back and forth between the X console and the text console -- sometimes that helps
[17:56] <Gargolas> kool.. lol
[17:56] <wigren> MGrunde: ok, thanks for the help
[17:56] <millertime_018> ne2k__: now will it work every time i start my computer? i  can just open it?
[17:56] <ne2k__> millertime_018: now, you might want to change that RAM parameter in qemu-launcher to give the virtual machine a bit more ram than 128MB, and tweak a few other things
[17:56] <ne2k__> millertime_018: yep
[17:57] <ne2k__> millertime_018: adduser is permanent
[17:57] <edsubuntu> Ctrl Alt F7 will bring you back to init 5 I think.
[17:57] <ne2k__> millertime_018: so, has it booted XP?
[17:57] <ne2k__> edsubuntu: utter rubbish
[17:57] <karol^> hi, can someone help me? I set up dual monitors according to this http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html and it works during login screen but then it switches to cloned view once I log in
[17:57] <mattgyver83> soundray, amenado, worked like a charm.  Thank you for your guidance.
[17:57] <soundray> nir: my personal cutoff for choosing xubuntu over ubuntu is 1 GHz
[17:57] <dalla> how do i install intgell vid drivers
[17:57] <acer_> how to install intel graphic media accelerator 950 on ubuntu 8.04?anyone?
[17:58] <fritzophrenic_> ugh...well, it will switch back to X, but it still won't bring up the terminal
[17:58] <millertime_018> ne2k: it tried. but wouldn't because i hadn't set it to enough ram before.
[17:58] <fritzophrenic_> dr_Willis, how do you disable the 'framebuffer' and what does that do?
[17:58] <millertime_018> ne2k: no i killed the emulation and fixed the ram but when i tried to run it again
[17:58] <ne2k__> millertime_018: it's a good idea to stop that, go back into native XP, create a second hardware profile and use that when booting XP inside qemu. otherwise you may find that when you reboot back into native XP, there are driver issues
[17:58] <soundray> dalla: install what?
[17:59] <millertime_018> ne2k: i'm not using xp. i'm using vista
[17:59] <acer_> how to install intel graphic media accelerator 950 on ubuntu 8.04?anyone?
[17:59] <millertime_018> ne2k__: will there be driver problems?
[17:59] <ne2k__> millertime_018: oh. my. goodness. the very best of luck to you, in all respects.
[17:59] <ne2k__> millertime_018: I don't know very much about this, only started looking at it myself about two hours ago. you've used up all my knowledge on the subject ;-)
[17:59] <theshelter> how do I give this window transperancy?
[17:59] <millertime_018> ne2k__: what? i know most people don't like vista...
[17:59] <MGrunde> acer_, http://www.linlap.com/wiki/Configuring+the+Intel+Graphics+Media+Accelerator+900-950+for+Linux
[17:59] <amenado> acer_-> dont know if anything for yours will show on this list..  sudo apt-cache search xserver-xorg
[18:00] <MGrunde> acer_, see the Ubuntu section
[18:00] <ne2k__> theshelter: this one? this one here? use the force and you will be able to see through it!
[18:00] <millertime_018> ne2k__: well ok. it worked the first time but when i tried to launch it after killing it it gave me a bunch of stuff in the terminal
[18:00] <SkarVeN> lolol
[18:00] <acer_> mgrunde, thanks
[18:00] <ne2k__> bad stuff?
[18:00] <fritzophrenic_> so, any ideas for getting CTRL-ALT-F1 to actually do something useful rather than bringing up a screen of green noise?
[18:01] <theshelter> Thanks for the help there ne2K_...your help is invaluable
[18:01] <MGrunde> acer_, no problem
[18:01] <soundray> fritzophrenic_: have you managed to kill that X program now?
[18:01] <fritzophrenic_> nope
[18:01] <r0xdrag0n> ciao
[18:01] <r0xdrag0n> ki mi puo aitare?
[18:01] <rbarbo> hi again :)
[18:01] <karol^> anyone know why I lose dual screen after log in?
[18:02] <millertime_018> ne2k__: ok what the terminal gave after i tried to run it again is in pastebin
[18:02] <MGrunde> !it | r0xdrag0n
[18:02] <rbarbo> i am doing the usb stick again.........
[18:02] <millertime_018> ne2k__: here http://pastebin.ca/1062362
[18:02] <rbarbo> and i have another problem.. i try to mount iso file, and i get this: sudo  mount -o loop /Home/Desktop/ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso /tmp/ubuntu-livecd
[18:02] <rbarbo> i get message, that file cannot be found.
[18:02] <ne2k__> fritzophrenic_: in this session, no, nothing you can do. you'll have to reboot (as far as I know). you have to tell the kernel not to use framebuffer
[18:02] <fritzophrenic_> soundray, xkill doesn't do it...so I wast attempting the ps auwx craziness, but ctrl-alt-f1 just brings up a screen of random green noise
[18:02] <soundray> fritzophrenic_: you could try to login on the text console blindly and run 'killall -9 name_of_frozen_program'
[18:02] <ne2k__> rbarbo: I wonder why
[18:03] <rbarbo> ne2k_, yes?
[18:03] <r0xdrag0n> ma qua non mi entra
[18:03] <r0xdrag0n> equesto e il canale #ubuntu
[18:03] <ne2k__> rbarbo: errm, is there a directory called /Home/ ?
[18:03] <soundray> fritzophrenic_: unless you have a means of sshing into the machine
[18:03] <rbarbo> yes.
[18:03] <ne2k__> rbarbo: why?
[18:03] <fritzophrenic_> soundray, so ctrl-alt-f1, type (without seeing it) "killall -9 name_of_program"
[18:03] <ne2k__> rbarbo: did you create it?
[18:03] <soundray> fritzophrenic_: no
[18:03] <rbarbo> how the hell should i know :) its there since i installed
[18:03] <MrLinux> I have a question, I just finish install Ubuntu 7.10 server, and says I'm not a 'sudo' user lol , why ?
[18:03] <dalla> ok video drivers are installed and canot enable efects
[18:03] <ne2k__> rbarbo: I don't believe you
[18:04] <soundray> fritzophrenic_: ctrl-alt-f1, login (without seeing it), type (without seeing it) "killall -9 name_of_program"
[18:04] <amenado> MrLinux-> cat /etc/sudoers file and see if  %admin is on the list
[18:04] <Lossless> i have a question regaring ubuntu and mysql/xampp/apachefriends
[18:04] <fritzophrenic_> login...just type my password?
[18:04] <ne2k__> rbarbo: I have never known any linux distribution to create a directory called /Home/, certainly not Ubuntu
[18:04] <ne2k__> fritzophrenic_: obviously, username, enter, password, enter
[18:04] <fritzophrenic_> okay thanks
[18:04] <MrLinux> amenado : cat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[18:05] <CWii> Lol.
[18:05] <CWii> You have to sudo that :P
[18:05] <MrLinux> But I can't sudo
[18:05] <CWii> Exactly
[18:05] <rbarbo> damn......... so where is Desktop actually? :/
[18:05] <ne2k__> MrLinux: do you know the root password?
[18:05] <karol^> ﻿hi, can someone help me? I set up dual monitors according to this http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html and it works during login screen but then it switches to cloned view once I log in
[18:05] <amenado> MrLinux-> i guess you have to reboot from livecd and then fix this file
[18:05] <CWii> MrLinux, it's called irony
[18:05] <LSD|Ninja> rbarbo: you mean the folder? In ~
[18:05] <MrLinux> ady@server2:~$ sudo ls
[18:05] <MrLinux> sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[18:05] <ne2k__> rbarbo: probably in ~/Desktop/, which expands to /home/<username>/Desktop/
[18:05] <soundray> MrLinux: you need to reboot in recovery mode
[18:05] <MrLinux> It's SERVER not Desktop
[18:06] <soundray> MrLinux: makes no difference
[18:06] <LSD|Ninja> If you forget the root password you can (or anyone else with physical access to the machine) boot it into single user and run passwd root
[18:06] <rbarbo> thanks (l)
[18:06] <rbarbo> thanks ne2k_
[18:06] <MrLinux> So I have to reinstall it right ?
[18:06] <soundray> LSD|Ninja: don't recommend this please. Ubuntu is designed to be administered with sudo
[18:07] <soundray> MrLinux: no
[18:07] <dalla> ok video drivers are installed and canot enable efects
[18:07] <soundray> MrLinux: you need to reboot in recovery mode
[18:07] <MrLinux> ok
[18:07] <amenado> MrLinux-> nope no need to re-install
[18:07] <ne2k__> soundray: yeah but sudo is ostensibly buggered; the only way to fix it is single-user mode
[18:07] <soundray> MrLinux: make sure your user is a member of the admin group (adduser yourusername admin)
[18:07] <LSD|Ninja> soundray: I know, but you have to let them buttfuck their system at least one for them to learn why that's a good thing
[18:08] <soundray> ne2k__: single-user = recovery mode
[18:08] <MrLinux> I only have Rescue a brojen system
[18:08] <soundray> !language | LSD|Ninja
[18:08] <MrLinux> I only have Rescue a broken system *
[18:08] <chowder> This is a thread that I created. I need help doing a minimal install. Please read it and if you can help, PM me. http://forums.techguy.org/unix-linux/727265-minimal-install-debootstrap.html#post5968587
[18:08] <soundray> !coc > LSD|Ninja
[18:08] <jchaoul-> Can anyone here help me set up a home network linking both linux and windows pcs on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[18:08] <rbarbo> bah
[18:08] <soundray> MrLinux: which version of Ubuntu Server do you have?
[18:08] <MrLinux> soundray : 7.10
[18:08] <rbarbo> this is stupid, i am one incompetent idiot, im going back to windows
[18:09] <soundray> MrLinux: you must have booted from the CD again.
[18:09] <gordonjcp> jchaoul-: 6.06 is pretty ancient now
[18:09] <LSD|Ninja> soundray: how about you take that !coc and remove it from you rear end :)
[18:09] <MrLinux> soundray : I just did that
[18:09]  * LSD|Ninja quiets d]back down
[18:09] <millertime_018> ne2k__: what was that command again?
[18:09] <soundray> bazhang: can you do something about LSD|Ninja please
[18:09] <bazhang> LSD|Ninja, please refrain from that talk
[18:09] <jchaoul-> what to do?
[18:09] <ne2k__> millertime_018: what command?
[18:09] <gordonjcp> rbarbo: are you having some kind of problem?
[18:09] <dalla> ok video drivers are installed and canot enable efects
[18:09] <evilbug> are there any good anti-virus and defrag apps i can use to fix my windows partition?
[18:09] <rbarbo> gordon, yes, im being retarded
[18:10] <Bassetts> hi, I just tried hibernate on my laptop and came to starting up again and I am getting errors and /home wont mount, I suspect it is to do with /home being encrypted. Can anyone help?
[18:10] <ne2k__> evilbug: CCleaner is good. but don't ask in here as this is a #ubuntu
[18:10] <evilnone> evilbug: gpart
[18:10] <gordonjcp> rbarbo: what's the problem?
[18:10] <rbarbo> i cant make my usb stick bootable so i could install ubuntu
[18:10] <gordonjcp> rbarbo: hm
[18:10] <evilbug> ne2k__- i meant ubuntu apps to scan my windows partition.
[18:10] <ne2k__> evilbug: oh, hang on, you don't mean windows apps. sorry, ignore me
[18:10] <soundray> MrLinux: boot from the hard disk instead. There you'll have a recovery mode boot entry. You may have to hit Esc to see the grub menu
[18:10] <illmortal> hey guys, what's that program that emulates windows software, not wine... but the other one.
[18:10] <jchaoul-> Can anyone here help me set up a home network linking both linux and windows pcs on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[18:10] <evilbug> evilnone- thanks!
[18:10] <evilnone> jchaoul: get samba
[18:10] <rbarbo> gordonjcp: yea ^^
[18:10] <gordonjcp> rbarbo: have you read the howto?
[18:10] <evilnone> evilbug: you are welcome :D
[18:11] <rbarbo> y
[18:11] <vlt> soundray: I can't see any diffrence between output with and without the line "quiet" in GRUB. What extra info should I get?
[18:11] <millertime_018> ne2k__: ok i just recieved this-http://pastebin.ca/1062370
[18:11] <rbarbo> not working....... i cant make it work
[18:11] <soundray> vlt: are you using splash?
[18:11] <gordonjcp> rbarbo: "not working" doesn't really tell me much
[18:11] <enzotib> to emulate a full windows machine, you can use virtualbox
[18:11] <ne2k__> millertime_018: how much physical ram do you have?
[18:11] <rbarbo> can we do it in private chat?
[18:11] <dalla> ok video drivers are installed and canot enable efects
[18:12] <millertime_018> 3 gigs. and ubuntu is only using 11% of that right now
[18:12] <illmortal>  guys.... does anyone know the program that's similar to WINE but you pay for it??! and it's more stable???
[18:12] <Bassetts> hi, I just tried hibernate on my laptop and came to starting up again and I am getting errors and /home wont mount, I suspect it is to do with /home being encrypted. Can anyone help?
[18:12] <vlt> soundray: No.
[18:12] <rbarbo> illmortal..........................
[18:12] <rbarbo> i forgot :(
[18:12] <ne2k__> millertime_018: why don't you do what it says?
[18:13] <ne2k__> millertime_018: it's explaining itself perfectly well
[18:13] <millertime_018> ne2k__: open another terminal and run those commands under sudo? do i  have to close qemu-launcher?
[18:13] <rbarbo> illmortal: i found it: its called Cedega
[18:13] <climatewarrior> Attention all NDISwrapper users here! please go to http://www.easylinuxwifi.org/ to help out a project that wants to automate ndiswrapper completely. You just have to fill out a simple form
[18:13] <ne2k__> millertime_018: no reason to close qemu-launcher
[18:13] <dalla> anyone
[18:13] <coens> ya des français
[18:14] <millertime_018> ne2k__: i just ran sudo umount /dev/shm and it said device is busy
[18:14] <soundray> !fr | coens
[18:14] <Xavura> I keep getting "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[18:14] <illmortal> that's what's called! cedega!
[18:14] <Xavura> It was working fine before I installed some updates earlier today.
[18:14] <Xavura> My window manager is compiz fusion if that matters
[18:14] <livindaylight> Greetings
[18:15] <illmortal> wait no... Cedega is for video games.
[18:15] <Bassetts> hi, I just tried hibernate on my laptop and came to starting up again and I am getting errors and /home wont mount, I suspect it is to do with /home being encrypted. Can anyone help?
[18:15] <Xavura> Anyone have any ideas? I can't live without my desktop effects...
[18:15] <dalla> i keep geting I keep getting "desktop effects could not be enabled
[18:15] <stwange_> how do I list all packages installed that have "php" in them?
[18:16] <ne2k__> stwange_: apt-cache search php
[18:16] <t1000> dpkg -l | grep php
[18:16] <stwange_> ne2k__ isn't that a list of all packages available not installed?
[18:16] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: What video card do you have?
[18:16] <stwange_> thanks t1000
[18:16] <ne2k__> stwange_: sorry, I misread your question. do what t1000 said
[18:16] <fritzophrenic> thanks for the help all...I discovered that the app had mouse but not keyboard focus, so I actually ran a terminal window within X using alt-f2...good stuff to know about
[18:16] <elexodus> need help editing /etc/fstab... I forgot how.
[18:16] <ne2k__> stwange_: btw, that will also include packages that have been installed, but are no longer installed
[18:16] <stwange_> elexodus sudo nano /etc/fstab
[18:17] <livindaylight> guys: i installed gnome-bluetooth package and ran it from Applications>Accessories>BlueToothFileSharing. When i send file from my mobile phone i get that no devices are found?? Can someone help me?
[18:17] <millertime_018> ne2k__: damnit! its not working!
[18:17] <ne2k__> millertime_018: sorry, got to go
[18:17] <dalla> i keep geting I keep getting "desktop effects could not be enabled
[18:17] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: ATI
[18:17] <vlt> soundray: When omitting "resume=/dev/sda7" the kernel hangs nearly a minute "waiting for resume device ..." What exactly is it waiting for?
[18:17] <ne2k__> stwange_: you need to look for ii at the beginning of the line too
[18:17] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: It was working fine for about 2 weeks until today so I doubt it is my graphics card
[18:17] <soundray> fritzophrenic: well done
[18:17] <elexodus> stwange_ I know, but I need the commant to identify drives to be editted into fstab
[18:18] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: what is the output of uname -r
[18:18] <ne2k__> stwange_: dpkg -l |grep ^ii |grep php
[18:18] <elexodus> stwange_ If that makes any sense
[18:18] <soundray> vlt: not sure. Can you pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l' output for me?
[18:18] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: 2.6.24-19-generic
[18:18] <Cyndrework> has anyone got adobe studio 8 installed on non 64 bit 8.04?
[18:18] <stwange_> ne2k__ I just wanted to compare two different machines to figure out why ssl wasn't working and they're identical. Thanks anyway :(
[18:19] <Dashkal> Does anybody know of an msn client (preferably in the repos) that supports the windows live protocol?
[18:20] <elexodus> need help editing a drive into fstab. I forgot how.
[18:20] <soundray> !fstab > elexodus
[18:20] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: now try 'grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and tell me if you see 'Driver     "fglrx"'
[18:21] <red> #linuxac
[18:21] <red> hello
[18:21] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: It gives no output
[18:21] <rosa> hello
[18:21] <rosa> I have all the system in english and I want to set it up to spanish, what should I do?
[18:21] <elexodus> soundray I just need the command to list particians. I have one that doesn't want to mount because it needs to be editted into fstab.
[18:22] <kevinmcq> is there a way to specify the alternate nickname used in xchat-gnome?
[18:22] <dalla> i keep geting I keep getting "desktop effects could not be enabled
[18:22] <red> i need book python
[18:22] <LSD|Ninja> kevinmcq: on the server properties it should offer you fields for tyour alt nicks
[18:22] <enzotib> rosa, I have the same problem in italian
[18:22] <soundray> elexodus: try 'sudo fdisk -l' and 'sudo blkid'
[18:22] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: Let's see what video driver it is using ...
[18:22] <enzotib> sorry, I had the same problem
[18:22] <kevinmcq> LSD|Ninja: im not seeing it, only nickname: and real name:
[18:22] <livindaylight> guys: i installed gnome-bluetooth package and ran it from Applications>Accessories>BlueToothFileSharing. When i send file from my mobile phone i get that no devices are found?? Can someone help me?
[18:23] <MrLinux> The installation did not show me to put a root password, why ? becouse the user have to be a sudo user right ?
[18:23] <rosa> enzotib, and how did you solutionate it?
[18:23] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: try 'less /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and look for 'Section "Device"'.
[18:23] <elexodus> soundray that did it thnx
[18:23] <soundray> MrLinux: by default, the Ubuntu root account is locked (no password set).
[18:23] <enzotib> I think the problem was I installed directly from cd
[18:23] <enzotib> and I had no access to network
[18:24] <Xavura> Section InputDevice?
[18:24] <enzotib> So I retried starting the live cd
[18:24] <Xavura> Section "Device"
[18:24] <Xavura>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[18:24] <Xavura> EndSection
[18:24] <soundray> MrLinux: have you managed to boot in recovery mode?
[18:24] <enzotib> making the net to work
[18:24] <mstef> why out of no where, probably after running the last update, would urbanterror just completely stop working? (8.04)
[18:24] <Xavura> I would have pastebinned it but it was only 3 lines FelixTheCat
[18:24] <enzotib> and installing from the running unstance
[18:24] <soundray> !enter | enzotib
[18:24] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: that's it. It doesn't look like you have fglrx installed as the ATI driver.
[18:24] <enzotib> sorry again, instance
[18:25] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: ok, but err it was working fine for 2 weeks~ until today so
[18:25] <vlt> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25045/
[18:25] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: I'd almost say you don't have a driver set, but then you wouldn't have any X-window.
[18:25] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: do you have any ideas or are you lost
[18:25] <LSD|Ninja> FelixTheCat: r250 radeons had open source drivers
[18:25] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: No. Just some preliminary explanation.
[18:25] <Xavura> Why is it the problems I have are the ones nobody ever knows how to fix, this is the 3rd one now...
[18:25] <soundray> vlt: how much RAM do you have?
[18:26] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: anything that can help me fix whatever decided to randomly break is good
[18:26] <Xavura> :P
[18:26] <DroP-PsyChoSiS> ok i know this channel isnt for games but does any1 hear run Warcraft III through wine or cedega coz mine works perfectly until a join a game then it starts to lag... my warcraft is important and i dont want to have to change back to windows jst because of this 1 problem... can any1 help ?
[18:27] <mreyebrows> anyone know anything about Monitor Frequencys
[18:27] <mreyebrows> ?
[18:27] <bazhang> #winehq DroP-PsyChoSiS
[18:27] <LSD|Ninja> mreyebrows: what about them?
[18:27] <DroP-PsyChoSiS> tryed them
[18:27] <LSD|Ninja> DroP-PsyChoSiS: you could always buy a Mac :P
[18:27] <DroP-PsyChoSiS> 1377 users here
[18:27] <mreyebrows> my monitor seems to have a problem with the current one im on
[18:27] <DroP-PsyChoSiS> 180 there
[18:27] <DroP-PsyChoSiS> do the math
[18:27] <bazhang> LSD|Ninja, that is not helpful
[18:27] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: You are using Radeon?
[18:28] <mreyebrows> it will just display a big Invalid Frequency upon startup
[18:28] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: If you can tell me what I need to do to find out what my graphics card is, I can tell you what it is
[18:28] <mreyebrows> but it will go away after about 4 minutes
[18:28] <Xavura> without me having to open it up and look on the label
[18:28] <Xavura> ...
[18:28] <mreyebrows> and gnome will boot up fine
[18:28] <FarmCretin> i need to format my external harddrive to ext3, how can i do this?
[18:29] <vlt> soundray: 512 MB. Resuming works fine when adding "resume=/dev/sda7". I just wonder why it hangs when I omit it ...
[18:29] <LSD|Ninja> FelixTheCat: mkfs
[18:29] <SPhcT> hellow.. i have small problem, when i start ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop it alows me to get in and show me just sreen without any tab... what i need to do to fix it.. please help me if you can..
[18:29] <DroP-PsyChoSiS> does not 1 person play warcraft here ?
[18:29] <mreyebrows> i do
[18:29] <mreyebrows> a bit
[18:29] <LSD|Ninja> DroP-PsyChoSiS: I do, just not under Linux
[18:29] <Xavura> SPhcT: do you give it a short while for it to load or
[18:29] <elexodus> and what's the command to create a folder in /media ?
[18:29] <soundray> vlt: I have no explanation. I thought maybe you had an unusual partition type set, but it looks fine
[18:29] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: try 'lspci | grep ATI' and look for 'VGA compatible controller'
[18:29] <elexodus> Sorry, I'm rusty
[18:29] <DroP-PsyChoSiS> does it run smoothly in gameplay?
[18:30] <bazhang> DroP-PsyChoSiS, this is ubuntu not warcraft support
[18:30] <DroP-PsyChoSiS> ye well i dont have 2 pc's LSD|Ninja
[18:30] <matteo_> why if i create with "ln /usr/bin/wine" a link i can't see any icon in desktop (with terminal i can see the link) O.o
[18:30] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[18:30] <naknomik> ﻿I want to run a script automatically when a new CD/DVD is inserted in the DVD drive. How can I do that?
[18:30] <DroP-PsyChoSiS> i know but warcraft support use windows bazhang
[18:30] <SPhcT> Xavura yes i give it donts show tabs even now
[18:30] <elexodus> What's the command to create a folder in /media ?
[18:30] <Xavura> naknomik: I can't tell you how but I can tell you that it's definitely possible :P
[18:31] <naknomik> Xavura: I already know that.
[18:31] <MrWizeGuy1983> anyone do the update and have problems?
[18:31] <SPhcT> hellow.. i have small problem, when i start ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop it alows me to get in and show me just sreen without any tab... what i need to do to fix it.. please help me if you can..
[18:31] <soundf_> i need to install my driver so i downloaded it here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_173.14.09.html
[18:31] <Xavura> SPhcT: If someone can help you they will,  no need to add a bunch of names to get random people's attention
[18:31] <soundf_> ubuntu 64bit as your can guess, how do i install?
[18:32] <Xavura> Though it might work :P
[18:32] <rubystallion> I was running an nvidia demo using wine and now my keyboard settings don't work anymore. How can I fix this?
[18:32] <wweasel> Could someone give me a bit of help with sed (i'm just learning)? I would like to parse a multi-line text file, search for the instance of "CLUE n", where n is a number, and have it output only the number n.
[18:32] <vlt> soundray: It worked fine without "resume=/dev/sda7" when my swap partition was still /dev/sda5. It hangs since I changed it to sda7, so I thought there must be some sda5 entry left somewhere ...
[18:32] <dalla> i keep geting I keep getting "desktop effects could not be enabled
[18:32] <elexodus> soundf_ it puts the CD in the tray
[18:32] <soundf_> what?
[18:32] <elexodus> to install
[18:32] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: You should add 'Driver    "radeon"' to the Device section, the one you pasted above.
[18:33] <Xavura> dalla: Did it start after you downloaded the latest updates and are you using Ubuntu 8.04 and comiz fusion?
[18:33] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: It still baffles me how your driver argument got deleted.
[18:33] <soundf_> i downloaded it what should i do now?
[18:33] <wweasel> my issue is with outputting only the number n. right now i get the whole text file, with "CLUE n" replaced by "n"
[18:33] <Xavura> dalla: If so I have the same problem, FelixTheCat is trying to help me with it./
[18:33] <SPhcT> My problem: I start ubuntu and see only desktop background. what i need to doo?
[18:33] <iceman_> Hello
[18:33] <MrWizeGuy1983> Xavura, do you have problems after doing the latest updates?
[18:33] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: It was one of the 30-ish updates that I downloaded
[18:33] <soundray> soundf_: you shouldn't install that. What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[18:33] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: that must have done this
[18:33] <Xavura> MrWizeGuy1983: Yeah
[18:33] <soundf_> 8.04
[18:33] <soundf_> 64bit
[18:33] <MrWizeGuy1983> Xavura, my update uninstalled pidgin and i can't even get it back
[18:33] <soundf_> y not?
[18:33] <Xavura> MrWizeGuy1983: so does dalla, if you know how to fix it help him too :P
[18:33] <LSD|Ninja> SPhcT: is it consistent? I get that from time to time, a restart usually fixes it
[18:33] <elexodus> soundf_ what format is it in? (tar, etc)
[18:34] <MrWizeGuy1983> Xavura, i'm looking for a fix too
[18:34] <Xavura> MrWizeGuy1983: I'll check if I have Pidgi
[18:34] <MrWizeGuy1983> ty Xavura
[18:34] <soundf_> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.09-pkg2.run - thats the file
[18:34] <soundray> soundf_: because there is an ubuntu-ized version of the driver. Enable it through System-Administration-Hardware Drivers
[18:34] <Xavura> MrWizeGuy1983: My Pidgin works
[18:34] <SPhcT> LSD|Ninja i alredy try restart..
[18:34] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: Aye. You can also run the GUI if you don't want to hand-modify the xorg.conf file.
[18:34] <MrWizeGuy1983> Xavura, i have no clue why mine won't
[18:34] <SPhcT> dosnt work for me
[18:34] <elexodus> What's the command to create a folder in /media to mount a partician to?
[18:34] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: I don't want to hand modify anything important, I will just break it
[18:34] <karname> how i can enable libsndfile
[18:34] <MrWizeGuy1983> FelixTheCat, do you have any idea why my pidgin would be uninstalled and can't be reinstalled after the latest updates?
[18:35] <soundf_> i have it installed but i cant install that 2?
[18:35] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: Can you walk me through it, I've already broke my system beyond repair once in 2 weeks and had to reinstall
[18:35] <soundray> soundf_: you shouldn't
[18:35] <soundf_> ok
[18:35] <t1000> elexodus: man mkdir
[18:35] <Xavura> dalla: Hello?
[18:35] <rbarbo> hello
[18:35] <soundray> soundf_: if you bypass the package management, your graphics will break each time there's a kernel upgrade
[18:35] <elexodus> t1000 perfect
[18:35] <t1000> cya all
[18:35] <rbarbo> are there any chances cp command can hang?
[18:35] <legend2440> wweasel: have you tried channel   #sed?
[18:35] <SPhcT> My problem: I start ubuntu and see only desktop background. what i need to doo?
[18:35] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: Let me find the GUI. I seldom mess with the GUI when working with xorg.
[18:36] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: Ok, thanks a lot
[18:36] <wweasel> legend2440: Didn't know it existed! Thanks :)
[18:36] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: Is the missing driver thing my problem then?
[18:36] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: and are you 100% sure?
[18:36] <soundray> SPhcT: can you log in on a text console? Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch
[18:36] <MrWizeGuy1983> Xavura, was there a kernel upgrade with the latest set? i wasn't looking
[18:36] <soundf_> i tried to play my installed on windows call of duty, it opens with wine but says i need Directx
[18:36] <soundf_> what can i do about it?
[18:36] <Xavura> MrWizeGuy1983: I don't know, when there are updates I don't look at them, I just download them ALL
[18:36] <SPhcT> soundray: yes i can
[18:37] <MrWizeGuy1983> Xavura, i usually do too, but it messed me up this time
[18:37] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: it seems to be. You are missing the proper driver argument. Paste your entire xorg.conf text and lets look through it first.
[18:37] <SPhcT> soundray: what i need do next?
[18:37] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: One second
[18:37] <nikin> i have a custom built kernel and i try to use an USB DVD drive... it shows up in dmesg but no device gets creaated.... any ideas where i should look for the problem?
[18:37] <VitaminC> what do i have to type to chanche the room?
[18:37] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: What do I do to copy and paste the entire contents of the file
[18:37] <bazhang> VitaminC, /j #channelname
[18:37] <KrisMedal> hey.
[18:37] <soundf_> i cant do nothing about it?
[18:37] <VitaminC> thx :-)
[18:38] <bazhang> np
[18:38] <KrisMedal> Hey, everyone.
[18:38] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: You can also see if System > Administration > Hardware Drivers prompts you to install a restricted driver.
[18:38] <soundray> SPhcT: see if any of your filesystems are full:   df -h
[18:38] <KrisMedal> Hey, I got a question if anyone wants to give me an assist.
[18:38] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: It was working fine without the restricted driver so why would I install it, if it's "restricted" then I don't like the sound of that
[18:38] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: you can try opening xorg.conf in Gedit, then select all, copy.
[18:38] <soundray> soundf_: try the various options on the Graphics tab in winecfg
[18:38] <MrWizeGuy1983> libpurple0:
[18:38] <MrWizeGuy1983>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[18:38] <MrWizeGuy1983> what does that mean?
[18:39] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: no worries, don't install the binary blob if you aren't cool with it.
[18:39] <SPhcT> soundray: no its not
[18:39] <Xavura> It means it requires pidgin-data to work
[18:39] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: I'd install it if I knew what restricted means, or if it will fix my problem for sure
[18:39] <SPhcT> everything about 20 %
[18:39] <MrWizeGuy1983> Xavura, ......um.....clearly.....but you seem to have missed the point
[18:39] <soundray> SPhcT: good. Now see if you can make any sense of the last entry in the X session log:    tail -n 30 .xsession-errors
[18:39] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: How do I get select all?
[18:39] <KrisMedal> Hold on. What's Xavura's issue?
[18:39] <Xavura> do*
[18:40] <Xavura> KrisMedal: After installing a bunch of updates earlier, I can't enable desktop effects
[18:40] <FelixTheCat> KrisMedal: he is using a radeon card and suddenly cannot run compiz after running updates.
[18:40] <KrisMedal> Right...
[18:40] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: I think compiz is working, just not effects
[18:40] <Xavura> Idk
[18:40] <Xavura> compiz is the window manager right?
[18:40] <KrisMedal> I would have thought to just install the upgrades one by one, testing after al of them.
[18:40] <Lapinux> anyone have any idea what may cause duplicate boot messages?
[18:41] <Xavura> MrWizeGuy1983: Maybe I am missing the point, I'm new to this... I was just trying to help
[18:41] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: Thanks for the help, I'll be back in a minute though
[18:41] <SPhcT> My problem: I start ubuntu and see only desktop background. what i need to doo?
[18:41] <MrWizeGuy1983> it's ok Xavura it usually does that on synaptic, but for some reason it's acting like it's half upgraded and won't work
[18:41] <MrWizeGuy1983> i think my upgrade failed...
[18:41] <elexodus> Anybody know what this message means: http://pastebin.ca/1062387
[18:41] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: restricted drivers mainly mean these are closed-source drivers, unavailable to anyone outside of the manufacturer for correcting.
[18:42] <KrisMedal> So, hey.
[18:42] <elexodus> sphct: have you tried installing an older version?
[18:42] <KrisMedal> I have an issue with this system I'm building.
[18:42] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: For most folks, they work fine but some folks do not want any binary blobs in their installation.
[18:42] <karname> please help me : how i can enable libsndfile ?
[18:42] <elexodus> KrisMedal ok
[18:42] <akruger> How can I configure windowskey+f1 and windowskey+1 to switch to desktop 1 and move window to desktop 1 respectively?
[18:43] <KrisMedal> Okay, this is it. I got a really old version of Ubuntu. Don't know the number. But I don't know if it'll support SCSI.
[18:43] <soulchild> HI all,... how can i list installed printers via cups ???
[18:43] <gkife> How can I configure windowskey+f1 and windowskey+1 to switch to desktop 1 and move window to desktop 1 respectively?
[18:43] <FuzzplugJones> I have a question.  How come I cant find a good GUI administration application for RAID on linux?  That's obviously something I don't want to mess up and the howtos are long and complex.
[18:43] <gkife> sorry
[18:43] <erUSUL> soulchild: System>Admin>Printers
[18:43] <elexodus> KrisMedal yes it should.
[18:43] <soulchild> erUSUL: via console ?
[18:43] <elexodus> KrisMedal is it installede?
[18:43] <gkife> When I use the keyboard shortcuts configuration screen it changes to SuperL as soon as I press the windows key
[18:43] <KrisMedal> I'd just deal witht he howtos. I think they generally know what they're doing.
[18:43] <erUSUL> soulchild: us lp tools =?=?
[18:43] <SPhcT> elexodus: no i just coplete instaled all new
[18:44] <FuzzplugJones> i guess i didn't phrase my question right.
[18:44] <KrisMedal> Yes, it is installed. I got one IDE and an open SCSI port.
[18:44] <kitche> FuzzplugJones: probably because it's more of a admin task instead of a user task to setup Raid
[18:44] <dr_Willis> FuzzplugJones,  are You even sure you need raid? it is a 'complex' topic. :)  and theres dozens of things/issues to watch out for.
[18:44] <soundray> !resetpanel > SPhcT
[18:44] <FuzzplugJones> i'm sure i need raid.
[18:44] <elexodus> sphct: I've had thew problem before with older machines. Try installing an earlier version.
[18:45] <elexodus> KrisMedal so it's working, right?
[18:45] <KrisMedal> The IDE drive is working. I'm not sure aobut the SCSI.
[18:45] <KrisMedal> I boot, it's not there.
[18:45] <elexodus> KrisMedal is the scsi installed?
[18:45] <KrisMedal> And since it's not there I can't format.
[18:45] <KrisMedal> Yes, it is.
[18:45] <erUSUL> soulchild: like lpadmin and the like. or use the browser interface localhost:631
[18:45] <nickwinl> elexodus and SPhcT: it could be a variety of that p-DoS firmware bug
[18:45] <FuzzplugJones> as far as software raid goes, win2k3 server is stable enough and has a gui to help you not make stupid mistakes when setting things up, and handles resyncs automatically and all that, i'd just rather support free software, but it seems like 10x the hassle.  this isn't a hobby for me, i have data i need to protect and i'll get no pleasure out of rolling up my sleeves and pounding it out.
[18:46] <elexodus> nickwinl good call
[18:46] <zane> testing 1  2   3
[18:46] <KrisMedal> Testing 456 and any other letters.
[18:46] <KrisMedal> Er, numbers.
[18:46] <nickwinl> elexodus and SPhcT: it hits mice and gnome desktops at once.
[18:46] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: I'm back
[18:46] <Martinzz> Hello I need some help with my ubuntu
[18:46] <MrLinux> I reinstall it again and the same thing happened
[18:46] <MrLinux> hmmmm
[18:46] <elexodus> KrisMedal try this in console: sudo fdisk -l
[18:46] <Martinzz> I tried updating it but it crashed
[18:47] <Martinzz> and now I cant start it
[18:47] <KrisMedal> hooboy.
[18:47] <KrisMedal> Thanks...
[18:47] <KrisMedal> It seems to be doing something...
[18:47] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: wb
[18:47] <Martinzz> help pleaseee
[18:47] <elexodus> KrisMedal pastebin it to me
[18:47] <elexodus> Anybody know what this message means: http://pastebin.ca/1062387
[18:47] <KrisMedal> mkai. Sec.
[18:47] <branstrom> How do I even know what methods to employ to restore a corrupt partition? Where do I begin?
[18:47] <zane> lol kris i was just testing to see if anyone saw my info
[18:48] <zane> u did so thanks it is working
[18:48] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: I do get some weird display issues, from time to time, white/black overlays on top of windows when activating menus etc. they can be fixed by moving the mouse or dragging the window though, would the restricted drivers fix that?
[18:48] <KrisMedal> kevin@kevin-desktop:(wavy line, that I cannot find on my keyboard.)-$ sudo fisk-1
[18:48] <enzotib> Martinzz, have you seen if there is something in the system logs?
[18:48]  * nickwinl would like to remind everyone that testing is not teaching.
[18:48] <zane> im new to irc and xchat and i haven't been getting any responses on smaller chats
[18:48] <Martinzz> how do I see that?
[18:48] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: very possible. I would put that in the radeon IRC channel and see if they have an option to fix it.
[18:48] <karname> please help me : how i can enable libsndfile ?
[18:48] <soundray> FuzzplugJones: Linux assumes a willingness to delve into documentation and to run a few experiments before you put something like a RAID into production use.
[18:49] <KrisMedal> I ran command fdisk -s PARTITION and some random error shut it down.
[18:49] <rubystallion> How do I make ubuntu read the keyboard settings from my xorg.conf?
[18:49] <Sinister> how can i make a avi play in a regular dvd player ?
[18:49] <Martinzz> what happened is that the installation didnt finish
[18:49] <KrisMedal> unable to open PARTITION or somesuch.
[18:49] <Bassetts> hi, I just tried hibernate on my laptop and came to starting up again and I am getting errors and /home wont mount, I suspect it is to do with /home being encrypted. Can anyone help?
[18:49] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: Ok I'll leave it for now, but do you think you know how to get this other problem working? How do I copy/paste my xorg.conf I don't know how to do select all
[18:49] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: Run the Hardware Drivers tool and see what it offers.
[18:49] <enzotib> on the "system" menu, "administration", "system registry" (im not sure is so, i'm trying to translate from italian)
[18:49] <KrisMedal> Here's a full shot...copy and past is fun.
[18:49] <FuzzplugJones> hmm, that doesn't seem to be, say, Apache's philosophy.  Okay, thanks for clearing that up, guess for stability and reliability I'll stick on 2k3
[18:49] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: When I run it it says no restricted drivers are in use and it doesnt' have anything to click to find updates or install things or wahtever
[18:49] <soundray> FuzzplugJones: the disadvantage of a system that is produced for free is that there are fewer resources for producing that soft woolly feeling you get from well-designed GUIs
[18:49] <KrisMedal> kevin@kevin-desktop:~$ sudo fdisk-1
[18:49] <Algyz> Hi, how can I connect to internet automatically on startup? Internet is through LAN, I'm connecting $sudo dhclient eth0
[18:50] <KrisMedal> kevin@kevin-desktop:~$ sudo fdisk-1
[18:50] <KrisMedal> huh...
[18:50] <KrisMedal> darn newfangled IRC.
[18:50] <enzotib> of course it depends on the windows manager, I use gnome
[18:50] <KrisMedal> Gnome is best.
[18:50] <Xavura> Gnome isn't a window manager.
[18:50] <Xavura> is it?
[18:50] <KrisMedal> More gui orientated.
[18:50] <LSD|Ninja> no
[18:50] <KrisMedal> I think it is.
[18:50] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: In gedit, use either Edit > Select all or simply use CTRL-A to select all.
[18:50] <Xavura> I thought window managers were like compiz and stuff
[18:50] <Xavura> and Gnome is something else, like KDE
[18:50] <LSD|Ninja> gnome is a desktop environment
[18:50] <Xavura> it's the actual desktop environment no?
[18:50] <KrisMedal> Oh...I'm stupid then.
[18:50] <Dashkal> metacity is the window manager isn't it?
[18:50] <Xavura> desktop environment !== window manager
[18:50] <LSD|Ninja> last I checked, metacity was the gnome window manager
[18:51] <Xavura> LSD|Ninja: that's it, by default
[18:51] <enzotib> sorry, ok, a desktop environment
[18:51] <nickwinl> I really want to fix that p-DoS bug now. I'm going to dig up my intel x86 assembly book perhaps there are clues in there to help fix SPhcT's prob...
[18:51] <Martinzz> yeah I got there, so what do I do?
[18:52] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: Ctrl+A is on Windows.... it doesn't work
[18:52] <KrisMedal> IT'S UP! I GOT IT UP!
[18:52] <Martinzz> what can I do if the installation is messeed up?
[18:52] <LSD|Ninja> KrisMedal: lol
[18:52] <Xavura> KrisMedal: what? :P
[18:52] <shesek> can anyone help me get iMon working ?
[18:52] <KrisMedal> (wait. not like that)
[18:52] <KrisMedal> I got it formatting.
[18:52] <LSD|Ninja> hahahaha
[18:52] <shesek> I tried following some tutorials, but no success
[18:53] <KrisMedal> Syntax errors are due to friggin' fat fingers.
[18:53] <enzotib> read the logs and search for an error related to your problem
[18:53] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: as long as you have your input cursor in the text file, it should select all text in that text file.
[18:53] <Gargolas> can anyone plz help me out? i have problems setting up yaboot
[18:53] <KrisMedal> What's yaboot?
[18:53] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: nope but I did something else http://pastebin.mozilla.org/477567
[18:53] <KrisMedal> Sounds like a name.
[18:54] <afallenhope> wth is yaboot?
[18:54] <afallenhope> lmao
[18:54] <MrWizeGuy1983> this was the worst update ever
[18:54] <KrisMedal> Ya, I boot.
[18:54] <KrisMedal> Das boot.
[18:54] <MrWizeGuy1983> i rebooted and my wireless doesn't work anymore
[18:54] <afallenhope> haha
[18:54] <MrWizeGuy1983> and i don't have my pidgin either
[18:54] <bazhang> !ot
[18:54] <yaris12346789> how do i check running processses in command line ?
[18:54] <KrisMedal> shouldn't your pidgen be in a cage?
[18:54] <LSD|Ninja> yaris12346789: ps
[18:54] <Gargolas> yaboot is a boot loader for PowerPC-based hardware running Linux, particularly New World ROM Macintosh systems. It is built to run within the Open Firmware layer common to most such systems instead of working as a Mac OS 9 program like its predecessor BootX.
[18:54] <Gargolas> The name is believed to be an acronym for "yet another boot loader".
[18:54] <soundray> !cli > yaris12346789
[18:54] <MrWizeGuy1983> KrisMedal, i think it's been cooked for dinner
[18:54] <KrisMedal> Ehehe.
[18:54] <fritzophrenic> does anyone know how I can figure out how much video memory I have?
[18:54] <KrisMedal> Not a homing pidgen.
[18:55] <Myrtti> KrisMedal: lets keep the offtopic out this channel, please
[18:55] <bazhang> KrisMedal, please take chat elsewhere
[18:55] <KrisMedal> Heh. No fun at all.
[18:55] <fernandos> huhu
[18:55] <KrisMedal> Right, well...
[18:55] <fernandos> =)
[18:55] <soundray> fritzophrenic: it gets reported in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:55] <KrisMedal> what about pidgen?
[18:55] <rubystallion> When I switch ctrl and capslock in the keyboard settings, the LED still reacts to the touch of the capslock key. How can I change that?
[18:55] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: Aye, something has really messed with xorg.conf file. Wow!
[18:55] <KrisMedal> Sounds like hardware.
[18:55] <KrisMedal> rubystallion, sounds like a hardware issue to me.
[18:55] <Xavura> KrisMedal: If you want fun try #ubuntu-oftopic or #ubuntuforums
[18:56] <KrisMedal> since I dont know how to CONNECT TO THEM!
[18:56] <KrisMedal> ...
[18:56] <rubystallion> KrisMedal: It's not. It worked before and I'm not sure what I did wrong.
[18:56] <Xavura> KrisMedal: These guys will just bite your head off if you try to say anything that isn't asking for help or helping
[18:56] <Xavura> :P
[18:56] <KrisMedal> right, so it worked before?
[18:56] <KrisMedal> like, did it happen after a reboot?
[18:56] <ikonia> KrisMedal: to join #ubuntu-offtopic type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[18:56] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: I'd run the command given to you in the file, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" AFTER you have made a copy of the current file.
[18:56] <Gargolas> so.. my guess is no1 knows? lol
[18:56] <Corkster> typical linux friendly support channel :)
[18:57] <enterneo1> i was wondering pulse audio added per application volume control capability to hardy, isn't it?
[18:57] <Martinzz> I really need some help with mine
[18:57] <elexodus> Anybody know what this message means: http://pastebin.ca/1062387
[18:57] <KrisMedal> three jokes is a boot.
[18:57] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: err I just pastebinned it so that's my backup there
[18:57] <AMLNXUSR> Is there a command i can use to free up some of my memory?
[18:57] <KrisMedal> I'm a humerous helper.
[18:57] <rubystallion> KrisMedal: I'm not sure. If it's something about the xorg.conf, then it might have been because I ran an nvidia graphics demo
[18:57] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: be sure to first run 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak'
[18:57] <fernandos> I've got a question. Everytime I compile an app from source it needs several tools, so called dependancies. The problem is, I do NOT want to keep those useless depandancies. But removing them one by one takes so much time.. any idea?
[18:57] <KrisMedal> right.
[18:57] <ikonia> KrisMedal: stop now please, you've been asked multiple times
[18:57] <Myrtti> KrisMedal: please, keep the offtopic really on #ubuntu-o...
[18:57] <Xavura> err he left noobs
[18:58] <ikonia> Xavura: he was kicked drop the attitude
[18:58] <Xavura> anyway, FelixTheCat do I run it from IN the file or :\
[18:58] <MrWizeGuy1983> FelixTheCat, do you know anything about today's update?
[18:58] <LSD|Ninja> Xavura: he didn't leave, he was kicked
[18:58] <fernandos> Why Isn't there something like undo last actions in synaptic?
[18:58] <Xavura> ikonia: I know, I was joking, stop being so stuck up
[18:58] <ikonia> fernandos: those applications require those dependencies
[18:58] <Xavura> LSD|Ninja: I know, typo
[18:58] <Xavura> Jesus christ, you people
[18:58] <ikonia> Xavura: calm down please.
[18:58] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: You mean exit the file then run the command, so I'm sure
[18:58] <Xavura> ikonia: I'm calm, thanks.
[18:58] <fernandos> ikonia, but they don't require them after the compilation
[18:58] <elexodus> KrisMedal Make sure you have all your scsi services installed
[18:58] <ikonia> fernandos: suck as, can you give me an example
[18:59] <AMLNXUSR> Is there a command that frees up memory? ??
[18:59] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: if you don't get x-windows to start up after running the configuration, you are going to be stuck since you won't have a convenient way to get back to the online copy
[18:59] <ikonia> fernandos: normally if something needs a dependency, it needs it to run
[18:59] <ikonia> AMLNXUSR: kill off uneeded process/applications
[18:59] <FelixTheCat> MrWizeGuy1983: No, I don't have any information on the updates.
[18:59] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: I will make the backup as you suggested but err I need to exit the file in nano before running the command right
[18:59] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: Yes.
[18:59] <AMLNXUSR> k thnx ikonia
[18:59] <Xavura> lol you said IN the file
[18:59] <MrWizeGuy1983> FelixTheCat, know anybody who would? they messed me up bad
[18:59] <fernandos> in example cairo-dock need some dev-libraries which I do not need after compilation
[19:00] <ikonia> fernandos: you'll need the libaries but not the headers
[19:00] <yaris12346789> using wget, how can i make it use random proxy from a list of proxy ?
[19:00] <FelixTheCat> MrWizeGuy1983: Honestly, no. You may see if anyone in the dev channel knows.
[19:00] <pwuertz> I have no clue what could possibly take that long for recompiling and distributing pidgin 2.4.3
[19:00] <ikonia> fernandos: if you want to remove the dependency packages such as headers, you can remove the package
[19:00] <yaris12346789> so that if connection refused, it will go to the next proxy
[19:00] <MrWizeGuy1983> FelixTheCat, what's the dev channel again please?
[19:00] <AMLNXUSR> ikonia,  I only have 3 apps running and its is useing over a gig of memory.. is that ok?
[19:00] <ikonia> pwuertz: pidgin is intergrated into gnome with ubuntu
[19:00] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: You said something really has messed with my xorg.conf, that's a bad thing right? How bad is it messed up? What could have done this to it?
[19:00] <soundray> AMLNXUSR: have a look at the output of 'free' -- the amounts shown under 'buffers' and 'cached' are available to new programs that you start (almost as if the memory was free)
[19:00] <ikonia> AMLNXUSR: is it using ram - or allocating ram
[19:00] <nice_burger> how do i restart an accidentally stopped job? say, irssi for example? thanks
[19:00] <ikonia> yaris12346789: shell script
[19:01] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[19:01] <Xavura>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080704190048
[19:01] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: there were quite a few xorg updates the past couple of days. Any one of them could have done this.
[19:01] <pwuertz> ikonia: so what? we are talking about replacing pidgin with pidgin
[19:01] <Xavura> That's it, done...
[19:01] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: BINGO!!
[19:01] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: What now?
[19:01] <fernandos> ikonia ehrm maybe I told something wrong. I don't mean the depandancies of the application. I mean the dependancies needed for compilation like dev-packages
[19:01] <ikonia> pwuertz: yes, but if anything has changed apart from the icq protocol in the version being built it needs to be tested against gnome
[19:01] <ikonia> fernandos: remove the dev packages then
[19:02] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: try copying the current file into a backup. Then, copy the xorg.conf.20080704190048 file to xorg.conf.
[19:02] <AMLNXUSR> whats availble under buffers and cache is less than a 100
[19:02] <unop> nice_burger, how was your job stopped?
[19:02] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: THAT backup file should be the one that worked for you previously.
[19:02] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: good find!
[19:02] <Bassetts> hi, I just tried hibernate on my laptop and came to starting up again and I am getting errors and /home wont mount, I suspect it is to do with /home being encrypted. Can anyone help?
[19:02] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: well that was just the output of the command you gave me
[19:02] <fernandos> sometimes there are way too much dev-packages and I can't always remember all of them, even if I remember it takes too much time to do it by hand.
[19:03] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: nevermind, thought you were looking at some log file.
[19:03] <unop> fernandos, sudo apt-get build-dep source_package
[19:03] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: you may also see if there are any other backup files in that same directory made earlier today.
[19:03] <soundray> AMLNXUSR: run 'top' to find out what's hogging your memory
[19:03] <myr> hi. my hardy install (2.6.24-19-generic) takes about 30 seconds longer to boot than it should. it stalls on "waiting for root file system". can anyone help me please?
[19:03] <Myrtti> Bassetts: I once had that too - it's because you've got a stale hibernation setting in your swap
[19:03] <axelpaxel> does anyone here know how to get a wifi usb adaptor to act like a Access Point? Thanks
[19:03] <Bassetts> Myrtti: how can I fix it?
[19:04]  * ShePoLo seLam
[19:04] <Bassetts> Myrtti: would removing the swap from fstab using a live cd help me to just get the machine booted?
[19:04] <Myrtti> Bassetts: no
[19:04] <fernandos> unop but I do "make" .. and I need to install some dev-libs "temporary" to compile the app. Those libs aren't requiered after compilation
[19:04] <nickwinl> Is there a GUI tool where you can directly change a single system's main memory and/or control the flow of that memory's performance for a certain program? I remember MacOS 9's memory tool that was a good prog.
[19:05] <Bassetts> Myrtti: how about formatting the swap
[19:05] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: here is what is in the xorg.conf.20080704190048 file http://pastebin.mozilla.org/477592
[19:05] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: It looks exactly the same as it was before
[19:05] <pwuertz> ikonia: yea... I admire some peoples wishes trying to deliver stable and well tested software... but pidgin is broken right now, there is no way it could have less functionality... there is enough time for bugfixing later
[19:05] <unop> fernandos, what package are you trying to build there?
[19:05] <Myrtti> Bassetts: check which partition is your swap, and do "swapon" to it when you've booted to recovery mode
[19:05] <perlsyntax> i try to  install Devel::PerlySense from cpan and for some reason it not installing it and ideas?
[19:05] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: xorg.conf, xorg.conf.bak and xorg.conf.20080704190048 are all the same
[19:05] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: If I understand correctly, you just ran the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command, and you got that file as backup.
[19:05] <fernandos> unop I am compiling cairo-dock or compiz or other apps from source
[19:05] <Bassetts> Myrtti: /dev/sda5, but it is encrypted
[19:06] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: I ran the command you gave me and it gave me the output that I pasted to you
[19:06] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:06] <Myrtti> Bassetts: yes, it doesn't matter
[19:06] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: All of that is correct. Are there any other xorg.conf backup files in that directory?
[19:06] <Myrtti> Bassetts: well, /dev/mapper/whatever then
[19:06] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: I'll check
[19:06] <unop> fernandos, well, for each of those apps you need to run build-dep , it installs the necessary libraries to complete the build
[19:06] <Bassetts> Myrtti: so after entering the password to unlock my swap run "swapoff /dev/mapper/sda5_crypt" ?
[19:06] <unop> perlsyntax, any errors?
[19:07] <Myrtti> Bassetts: I think that along the lines I did mine when I had the same situation as you did
[19:07] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: No there are none
[19:07] <perlsyntax> yes
[19:07] <perlsyntax> it will not install
[19:07] <unop> perlsyntax, put the output of your cpan command on a pastebin
[19:07] <Bassetts> Myrtti: I will go get the other laptop so I have irc access while trying, thank you so very much
[19:07] <perlsyntax> what the link?
[19:07] <unop> !pastebin | perlsyntax
[19:07] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: OK, strange that the latest xorg updates didn't make any backup files. Yuck! Anyway, you know have a new xorg.conf file different than the old ones?
[19:07] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: Except xorg.conf.new but that is a copy of xorg.conf before I was going to paste xorg.conf.20080704190048 into it, before I realized they are both exactly the same
[19:08] <fernandos> unop if I don't remove the dev-libs which were just needed for make the system will become full of those libs one day wasting my space. build-dep? what does it do? compile with needed dev headers and then remove them?
[19:08] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: ALL xorg.* are exactly the same, even after running the command you gave me the new xorg.conf is the same as it was before
[19:09] <perlsyntax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25047/
[19:09] <unop> fernandos, you can always remove the packages that build-dep (sudo apt-get build-dep package_you_are_building) installs after the build-process -- just make a note of which packages are being installed, and remove them later
[19:09] <AMLNXUSR> does the compiz desktop effects take up a lot of memory?
[19:10] <perlsyntax> i just post the link
[19:10] <marx2k> AMLNXUSR: no
[19:10] <fernandos> unop you sav apt-get build-dep /home/fernandos/cairo-dock/ will compile?
[19:10] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: Try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg' instead without the options. It should give you a chance to pick a driver.
[19:10] <soundray> AMLNXUSR: have you tried 'top'?
[19:10] <unop> perlsyntax, why don't you paste _all_ the output you have there -- it makes it easier to understand what this error means
[19:10] <unop> ?
[19:11] <soundray> FelixTheCat: not in 8.04
[19:11] <AMLNXUSR> yes i did
[19:11] <soundray> AMLNXUSR: so what's hogging your memory?
[19:11] <FelixTheCat> soundray: his xorg.conf has no driver listed. Is there another place now?
[19:11] <fernandos> unop would be newww to me that apt can even compile, wow
[19:11] <unop> fernandos, no,  sudo apt-get build-dep cairo-dock
[19:11] <Bassetts> Myrtti: it is not recognising the swap
[19:12] <CorpseFeeder> anyone know how to install googleearth in ubuntu 8.04?
[19:12] <AMLNXUSR> seems like xorg and is the the one thats using most of it
[19:12] <Stormx2> apt-get can't compile...
[19:12] <AMLNXUSR> and compiz.real
[19:12] <soundray> FelixTheCat: you can add a Driver line to Section "Device" still
[19:12] <AMLNXUSR> but it doesn't look like its using much
[19:12] <slkdf> qemu installed, xp as guest os, cd doesn't work though - anyone know how to get it working?
[19:12] <soundray> AMLNXUSR: how much does Xorg use?
[19:12] <AMLNXUSR> like 3.1
[19:12] <AMLNXUSR> mom
[19:12] <AMLNXUSR> mem
[19:13] <AMLNXUSR> which isn't alot
[19:13] <fernandos> unop aah now I understand thanks dude!
[19:13] <soundray> AMLNXUSR: I think your system is just fine.
[19:13] <Xavura> !enter | AMLNXUSR
[19:13] <Xavura> Everyone does it to me, it was time for revenge.
[19:13] <AMLNXUSR> sure
[19:14] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: sorry about the PM but the pastebin won't work
[19:14] <perlsyntax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25048/
[19:14] <Avery> hello
[19:14] <AMLNXUSR> its not running slow or anything.. i just found it strange that the free command is showing so much of my memory in use
[19:14] <Avery> can someone help me?
[19:14] <perlsyntax> i just post the link
[19:14] <Avery> Is the default Hardy Heron Wallpaper under the GPL?
[19:14] <Xavura> Avery: No, they can't, because they don't know what you need help with -_-
[19:14] <perlsyntax> i hope someone can help.
[19:14] <Avery> that is all
[19:15] <Xavura> Ah, there you go
[19:15] <Xavura> I'd imagine so, but I can't tell you
[19:15] <soundray> AMLNXUSR: Linux doesn't like to leave memory free -- it'll use it smartly instead (and then it won't show up as free)
[19:15] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:15] <slkdf> qemu installed, xp as guest os, cd doesn't work though - anyone know how to get it working?
[19:15] <Xavura> Everyone I'm reconfiguring xserver and it's asking me things I don't know how to answer
[19:15] <Avery> hmm... Where oculd I find out
[19:15] <perlsyntax> i not sure what i doing wroung
[19:15] <AMLNXUSR> i havn't had any problems so i have no complaints
[19:16] <slkdf> do i ask in the right place?
[19:16] <AMLNXUSR> thnx for the help guys
[19:16] <fernandos> Xavura ati?
[19:16] <Stormx2> perlsyntax: What are you doing anyway?
[19:16] <perlsyntax> anyone going to help
[19:16] <Stormx2> perlsyntax: And what command are you running?
[19:16] <nickwinl> If you *have* to use command line don't use top, use iostat -k ( sudo apt-get install sysstat )
[19:16] <Xavura> fernandos: err yeah but it doesn't matter, I thought FelixTheCat was away but he's back now
[19:16] <perlsyntax> i ttry to install  devel::Perlysense
[19:16] <nice_burger> unop: i accidentally hit control z once in a while
[19:17] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: I finished reconfiguring xserver
[19:17] <fernandos> kk
[19:17] <perlsyntax> cpan Devel:: Perlysense
[19:18] <perlsyntax> that the command i useing Stormx2
[19:18] <fernandos> Xavura thought you need the xorg.conf..t
[19:18] <dr_Willis> perlsyntax,  thers nto supposed to be a space after the :: i thought
[19:18] <slkdf> qemu installed, xp as guest os, cd doesn't work though - anyone know how?
[19:18] <perlsyntax> ok
[19:18] <rubystallion> My caps lock LED didn't take into account that I swapped ctrl and caps lock. However, I found a workaround by executing a setxkbmap command. How can I make that command execute automatically when ubuntu starts?
[19:19] <soundray> nickwinl: why? And when I do that, how do I get updates? With while true; do ; done?
[19:19] <jussi01> !bum | rubystallion
[19:19] <LSD|Ninja> rubystallion: does it still work as caps lock?
[19:19] <nickrud> rubystallion add it to system->prefs->session
[19:19] <dr_Willis> perlsyntax,  syntax is critical. :) it seems to be installing fine here.
[19:19] <perlsyntax> dr i didn't help
[19:20] <rubystallion> LSD|Ninja: No, the keys swapped, it's just the LED that's annoying me
[19:20] <perlsyntax> do i need to be root
[19:20] <slkdf> so has no one got the cd working inside a guest os using qemu?
[19:20] <myr> hi. my hardy install (2.6.24-19-generic) takes about 30 seconds longer to boot than it should. it stalls on "waiting for root file system". can anyone help me please?
[19:20] <dr_Willis> perlsyntax,  tryed to install it here.. it seems to have issues with the package.
[19:20] <tbs> how do i get the mac addr of my wlan0 if?
[19:21] <rubystallion> jussi01: Are you sure I can configure it with the boot options?
[19:21] <PriceChild> tbs: ifconfig wlan0
[19:21] <Stormx2> tbs: ifconfig wlan0
[19:21] <Stormx2> Jinx./
[19:21] <perlsyntax> really
[19:21] <iceman_> dhcpcd wlan0
[19:21] <tbs> under hwaddr i get a number that looks way too long to be a mac addr
[19:21] <iceman_> tbs use the 1st 12
[19:22] <tbs> ah ok
[19:22] <tbs> thx
[19:22] <fernandos> unop Are the packages needed for compiling a source package get removed after installation? This was my question, if or how those package can be removed magically :) :  apt-get -b build-dep cairo-dock cairo-dock ?
[19:22] <slkdf> is there some reason no one will talk to me?
[19:22] <slkdf> so has no one got the cd working inside a guest os using qemu?
[19:22] <perlsyntax> dr, will it be easy to install it from the tar from the web site cpan?
[19:22] <iceman_> whats up slkdf
[19:22] <rubystallion> nickrud: Thanks!
[19:22] <snprron> Greetings all!
[19:23] <slkdf> iceman_: hurray :) - i've got qemu intalled so I can use xp but can't load software from a cd
[19:23] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:23] <dr_Willis> perlsyntax,  could be we both dont know th eproper way to install things from cpan. Its been ages since i last installed somthing.
[19:23] <perlsyntax> ok
[19:23] <dr_Willis> perlsyntax,  i would sugggest tracking down a 'install cpan things tutorial'
[19:23] <iceman_> hold on slkdf
[19:23] <slkdf> iceman_: holding..
[19:24] <shesek> hello, I'm trying to get iMon remote controller to work. when running irw and clicking a button I'm getting stuff like "0000000028a395b7 00 Vol+ iMON-PAD", which seems fine.. but it doesn't do anything. did I skip a step or something ?
[19:24] <iceman_> slkdf for Linux of Win?
[19:25] <iceman_> slkdf
[19:25] <slkdf> iceman_: host is ubuntu heron, guest is xp home edition
[19:25] <iceman_> have you tried daemon?
[19:25] <iceman_> lite tools
[19:25] <Bassetts> Myrtti: thank you so so so much, that partition had an image of a broken hard drive on with a lot of very important data
[19:26] <annie_g> Hi - Can't remember where I changed my mouse to do "Single Click" instead of "Double Click" - any ideas? ?
[19:26] <Bassetts> Myrtti: have a hug =)
[19:26] <Myrtti> Bassetts: np :-) thanks
[19:26] <slkdf> iceman_: um, no. can you tell me what that is?
[19:26] <nickrud> annie_g system->prefs->windows
[19:26] <iceman_> what are you trying to do?
[19:26] <iceman_> daemon is the same as q
[19:27] <slkdf> iceman_: install msoffice in the guest which is cp
[19:27] <iceman_> try running it from the file
[19:27] <annie_g> nickrud: That does not seem to be the right selection - Someplace else to try?
[19:27] <iceman_> oh done that myself
[19:27] <fernandos> unop?
[19:27] <iceman_> cool
[19:27] <iceman_> download daemon lite tools
[19:28] <iceman_> first hit on google
[19:28] <slkdf> iceman_: sorry, are you talking to me or someone else?
[19:28] <iceman_> to you
[19:28] <iceman_> slkdf
[19:28] <slkdf> iceman_: right, i'll have a look - cheers
[19:28] <iceman_> if you need help holar
[19:29] <nickrud> annie_g sorry, in the file manager, edit->prefs->behaviour (don't ask me what I was thinking, I don't know)
[19:29] <iceman_> daemon cd emulator
[19:29] <elexodus> Need help setting up Network with Vi$ta laptop.
[19:29] <soul_786> on an ubuntu forum?
[19:30] <fernandos> Are the packages needed for compiling a source package get removed after installation? This was my question, if or how those package can be removed magically :) :  apt-get -b build-dep cairo-dock cairo-dock ?
[19:30] <landster> can anyone help me make a install to a memory card bootable?
[19:30] <Eric7> i get this on the very last command i need to do c ould anyone plz help me?
[19:30] <Eric7> eric@Chad:~/.mozilla/plugins$ -s /usr/local/lib/mozilla/plugins/libswfdecmozilla.so bash: -s: command not found
[19:30] <dr_Willis> Eric7,  you missed the actual command,  there is no -s command,  'ln -s' makes sence.
[19:30] <elexodus> soul_786 I have an Ubuntu PC, and a Vista laptop that is being sent back RMA. I need to get my stuff off of it before I send it in for repair.
[19:31] <sac_sand> hello ,, how can i res multisession disc in ubu ntu?
[19:31] <landster> i have read the wiki but what it says to edit in menu.lst is not there
[19:31] <annie_g> nickrud: Yup - That's it ! This is why I couldn't remember in the 1st place - kinda a funky spot you think to check as I recall now from last changed - Thanks so much...  :o)
[19:31] <Eric7> is that a L or a i?
[19:31] <elexodus> landster: put it in.
[19:31] <whalebone> anyone experienced with setting up dual monitors in Hardy?
[19:31] <dr_Willis> Eric7,  time to change fonts. :) its l as in LINK
[19:31] <iceman_> whalebone
[19:31] <Eric7> k and yea lol
[19:32] <elexodus> Need help setting up Network withUbuntu PC & Vi$ta laptop.
[19:32] <theshelter> Can someone help me figure out why my panel is at the top and won't let me move it to the bottom
[19:32] <iceman_> what graphics card u using?
[19:32] <elexodus> Need help setting up Network with Ubuntu PC & Vi$ta laptop.
[19:32] <sac_sand> hello ,, how can i res multisession disc in ubu ntu?
[19:32] <dacubuntu> hi guys... does any1 here use a psp with ubuntu?
[19:32] <dr_Willis> elexodus,  you mean 'shareing of folders' or some other 'network' thing?
[19:33] <Entropy626> Hello?
[19:33] <iceman_> greetings Entropy
[19:33] <elexodus> dr_Willis yes. I need my information off of the Vista laptop, and backedup on my Ubuntu PC.
[19:33] <dacubuntu> i get weird transfer rates... with both sandisk and sony memory cards..
[19:33] <fernandos> can I undo installations in synaptic (not selecting everything by hand)
[19:33] <Entropy626> I am having a problem with resolution in xubuntu
[19:34] <iceman_> what are your specs
[19:34] <Entropy626> Me?
[19:34] <iceman_> yes
[19:34] <der|kunstler> is it posiible to Multiplex 2 ADSL Lines with Ubuntu ?
[19:34] <annie_g> Is there still a "general - open chat area" for unbuntu - that is not necessarily about hardware or configuration?
[19:34] <whalebone> ati x500 I think
[19:34] <iceman_> try 55 mgz
[19:34] <elexodus> dr_Willis ??
[19:34] <Entropy626> Nvidia 6100 CPU, AMD Athlon dual-core CPU, 2gb RAM.
[19:34] <fernandos> der|kunstler It is possible
[19:34] <PriceChild> der|kunstler: http://www.linux.com/feature/133849 I think?
[19:34] <der|kunstler> PriceChild, fernandos thanks
[19:34] <iceman_> whalebone, download the latest open source drivers.
[19:34] <iceman_> for the ATI card
[19:35] <whalebone> hmm, does envyng do that?
[19:35] <whalebone> its the last thing i did
[19:35] <iceman_> cool Entropy
[19:35] <Entropy626> I can't raise the resolution above 800x600, and with it that low I can't run the install.
[19:35] <Entropy626> Cool? How?
[19:35] <fernandos> der|kunstler but It's better to have a router that supports the bgp protocol
[19:35] <iceman_> yes
[19:35] <der|kunstler> fernandos, yep, and I think something must be done in the ISP Right ?
[19:35] <furball> hello, i'm on a clean ubuntu installation, I can't ping other ubuntu machines on my LAN ? can anybody help fixing it please? :)
[19:35] <iceman_> Entropy, I had the same issue.
[19:35] <fernandos> der|kunstler some expensive routers do that for you ;)
[19:36] <der|kunstler> fernandos, actually, 'bonding' should be the term used instead of Multiplexing, in the case of DSL Lines
[19:36] <Entropy626> Sweet. How'd you fix it?
[19:36] <fernandos> in the ISP? no
[19:36] <SPhcT> how i can add Skype in startup programs
[19:36] <der|kunstler> fernandos, heh yeah!
[19:36] <iceman_> i just downloaded the latest Nvidia open source driver
[19:36] <Entropy626> Just do a google search for Nvidia 6100 open source driver?
[19:36] <der|kunstler> PriceChild, Interesting, thanks
[19:36] <iceman_> ATI cards are a bit more of a hassle.
[19:36] <whalebone> i think i have made some good progress so far. I log in and the mouse will move from one monitor to the other
[19:36] <iceman_> yes entropy
[19:36] <Entropy626> Awesome. 1 secd
[19:37] <hunzikea> recently, my T60 doesn't resume from suspend to ram anymore. using the guide in the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend) i figured out the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25051/ ttyv2 is no kernel module - so what's going wrong?
[19:37] <whalebone> but the cursor is all that will move, if i try to move a window/program, it will not work
[19:37] <furball> hello, i'm on a clean ubuntu installation, I can't ping other ubuntu machines on my LAN ? can anybody help troubleshooting it ?
[19:37] <fernandos> der|kunstler don't hesitate, as long as your router's software doesn`t have goog loadbalancing or other technologies to "speed you up" it's waste of time
[19:37] <whalebone> i tried sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=left
[19:37] <fernandos> good ^
[19:37] <whalebone> i tried sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=right
[19:37] <der|kunstler> fernandos, yeah
[19:37] <whalebone> and it works the same either way
[19:38] <iceman_> whalebone, do you have a auto image button on your screen?
[19:38] <whalebone> i missed something somewhere
[19:38] <der|kunstler> fernandos, thanks for the help
[19:38] <davi> What is the default root password of the initial Ubuntu Gutsy server installation?
[19:38] <whalebone> yeah
[19:38] <fernandos> der|kunstler np your welcome
[19:38] <iceman_> try using is the auto adjust
[19:38] <crexor> there is none davi
[19:38] <crexor> you sudo passwd
[19:38] <e-jat> hunzikea, try this http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_8.04_(Hardy_Heron)_on_a_ThinkPad_T60
[19:38] <crexor> if want to create a root account
[19:38] <crexor> or just do sudo su
[19:38] <crexor> if you want to become root
[19:38] <iceman_> sudo only crexor
[19:39] <fernandos> der|kunstler http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/internetworking/technology/handbook/bgp.html
[19:39] <theshelter> my bottom panel is stuck at the top and won't let me move it to the bottom.
[19:39] <e-jat> hunzikea, my suspend n hibernate work out of the box
[19:39] <whalebone> ok, no dice, if i grab this program by the title bar and slide right, it disappears offscreen up to the mouse, where it stops.
[19:39] <iceman_> linux commands
[19:39] <whalebone> but i can let go and move the mouse to the right and it foes to the other monitor
[19:39] <whalebone> which is on the left side of the one i am on
[19:39] <Entropy626> iceman_, do you have any idea where I can find a link? I'm only finding help forums w/o a download link
[19:39] <e-jat> with T61
[19:39] <crexor> Does anyone know how to output the contects of a directory, subfolders/etc into a readable format
[19:39] <fernandos> I'm away..
[19:39] <murlidhar_> is there any basic ubuntu install that has only the basic linux kernels and a bash command line editor and apt package management
[19:39] <whalebone> so i need to get the monitor's flipped somehow. lol
[19:39] <crexor> i tried doing ls piped to a txt file, and each new line
[19:39] <crexor> but looked like trash
[19:40] <fernandos> still waiting for a answer for my question..
[19:40] <crexor> and i have a feeling i might need to make something myself with bash scripting...
[19:40] <hunzikea> e-jat: mine worked fine as well. suddenly it doesn't, and i'm not sure why not. i messed around with network-manager 0.7, but even after downgrading again it doesn't work, so i doubt that's the reason.
[19:40] <iceman_> Enropyy, try getting them from the synaptics package manager
[19:40] <fernandos> can I undo installations in synaptic (not selecting everything by hand)
[19:40] <davi> thanks crexor
[19:40] <michalxo_> APCI no BIOS year, acpi=force is required.... what does that mean? i've added it to grub
[19:40] <lucia_> can anyone help me?
[19:40] <lucia_> please
[19:40] <e-jat> owh ..
[19:40] <whalebone> i guess the easiest way to explain that is linux sees my physical right monitor as my virtua left one. lol
[19:40] <lucia_> I have problems with my wireless
[19:40] <Entropy626> I've not had good luck with Synaptics. Where do the downloads go?
[19:41] <Entropy626> Rather, where do they end up on the computer? In the RAM?
[19:41] <iceman_> they automatically install them for you
[19:41] <Entropy626> OK, 1 sec...
[19:41] <e-jat> hunzikea, are u trying the 0.7 ?
[19:41] <hunzikea> e-jat: yes
[19:41] <iceman_> check the restricted drivers
[19:42] <iceman_> system , hardware driver button
[19:42] <e-jat> hunzikea, cannot revert back with 0.6.6?
[19:42] <GuilhermeCunha> UdontKnow: hi
[19:42] <GuilhermeCunha> ;)
[19:42] <hunzikea> e-jat, yes i can, but that doesn't solve the suspend problems -> i think it's not caused by network-manager
[19:42] <iceman_> system , admin hardware drivers, what does it say
[19:42] <theshelter> can someone help me get my bottom panel back down to the bottom.
[19:43] <geek_inn2> do bots exists in IRC,also why does irc reject my connection telling unauthorized connection ?
[19:44] <iceman_> any luck whalebone
[19:44] <Myrtti> !bot > geek_inn2
[19:44] <whalebone> not yet
[19:44] <whalebone> i guess the easiest way to explain that is linux sees my physical right monitor as my virtua left one. lol
[19:44] <whalebone> ok, no dice, if i grab this program by the title bar and slide right, it disappears offscreen up to the mouse, where it stops.
[19:44] <whalebone> but i can let go and move the mouse to the right and it foes to the other monitor
[19:44] <geek_inn2> can i do anonymous chat in irc
[19:45] <geek_inn2> well i am not bot FYI
[19:45] <iceman_> monitor model?
[19:45] <Entropy626> Geek, double-click the username, I think. It is polite to ask first
[19:45] <whalebone> i can wait till you finish helping entropy tho
[19:45] <whalebone> both are Dell 17inch LCd's
[19:45] <LogicalDash> I've got a bunch of useless entries in my Open With dialog. How do I remove them?
[19:46] <Entropy626> iceman_, I dl'd the package and followed the instructions to run it in Terminal, but it says it is being used by another process.
[19:46] <Entropy626> Oh, and thanks, Whalebone!
[19:46] <geek_inn2> thanks for suggesting a bot
[19:46] <iceman_> Entropy go to system, admin and hardware drivers and tell me what is says
[19:46] <whalebone> hehe, np, it can get pretty hairy when your helping more than one person
[19:47] <geek_inn2> i dont like 2 chat with inhumans,
[19:47] <iceman_> multitasking
[19:47] <wweasel> Writing a bash script, if [ -f FILENAME] checks if the file exists. Is there an operand to check if the file does not exist?
[19:47] <PriceChild> !offtopic | geek_inn2
[19:47] <geek_inn2> against the philosphy of ubuntu,lol
[19:47] <iceman_> whalebone monitor model?
[19:47] <iceman_> mine is a dell
[19:48] <geek_inn2> i want to stay here and get some help/yelp
[19:48] <Entropy626> iceman_, I think it may be worth mentioning that I'm using Xubuntu. I'll look...
[19:48] <theshelter> can someone help me figure out why my bottom panel is at the top and why it won't go back down to the bottom?
[19:48] <iceman_> do you have a system area
[19:49] <Entropy626> Applications-system?
[19:49] <whalebone> E177FPf and E173FPf, both are Dell branded
[19:49] <iceman_> are you familiar with terminal window?
[19:49] <Entropy626> I *think* I can use terminal...
[19:49] <iceman_> yes whalebone
[19:49] <whalebone> yes and yes
[19:49] <whalebone> got a terminal up and ready
[19:49] <iceman_> type in lsmod and tell me what it says
[19:50] <iceman_> under the driver version
[19:50] <Entropy626> Me? 1 sec
[19:50] <karname> my amule cannot connect and show this massage : no valid server found in server list , what i should do ?
[19:50] <VolSol> Does anyone know if it's possible (and how) to set an option to boot to a console session, and not start GDM? The "Rescue" option in GRUB *almost* does what I want, but not quite.
[19:50] <iceman_> also try lspci
[19:51] <geek_inn2> screen resolution problems with lg monitor when i set resolution:800*600 the screen get scrambled and flickrs continuesly
[19:51] <whalebone> oke, ice, lsmod for me to do or Entrop?
[19:51] <iceman_> sorry Entrop?
[19:52] <whalebone> do you want me or entropy626 to run lsmod?
[19:52] <whalebone> sorry
[19:52] <dr_Willis> VolSol,  just disable the gdm service., not sure how to do it from grub however.
[19:52] <iceman_> entropy
[19:52] <LogicalDash> How can
[19:52] <geek_inn2> i have intel motherboard 845,i dont want to edit files in xorg i dont want to crash my system
[19:52] <dr_Willis> VolSol,  you can always just do a 'startx' to get to X.
[19:52] <whalebone> kk, i got confused :)
[19:52] <LogicalDash> How can I remove program entries from the Open With dialog? I've already tried removing the offending applications from /usr/share/applications and running update-mime-database /usr/share/mime.
[19:52] <iceman_> sorry
[19:53] <Entropy626> iceman_, I tried them both. Unfortunately, the Nvidia 6100 is a motherboard/GPU set, so there's a lot of stuff.
[19:53] <iceman_> okay
[19:53] <VolSol> dr_Willis: what I'm wanting to do is to basically in GRUB have an entry that will start Ubuntu w/ GDM, and one that will start without it. So I'll have an option to start Ubuntu in a "Desktop" mode, and one to start it in a "Console" mode. I haven't been able to find anything so far: :P
[19:53] <iceman_> stand by
[19:53] <Entropy626> VGA compatible controller?
[19:54] <dacubuntu> can any1 help me with psp transfer rates?
[19:54] <geek_inn2> i filed bug in launchpad but the devels seems busy
[19:54] <dr_Willis> VolSol,  i just go to the console and stop gdm if i want. :) the forums may have some info on it.   guess ya could make rc.local just ask if you want to start gdm or not.
[19:54] <mangol> Hello guys.. SUSPEND option is not working for me. (i'm in gnome). It just locks the screen.
[19:54] <blockhd> hello!
[19:54] <blockhd> :)
[19:54] <geek_inn2> mango it doesnt work for anybody
[19:54] <blockhd> i managed to install ubuntu xD
[19:54] <mangol> huh??
[19:54] <geek_inn2> xd?
[19:54] <mangol> why is it so?
[19:54] <VolSol> dr_willis: that's all I'd come up with so far too! Mess with my RC stuff, or just run startx.
[19:55] <VolSol> Thanks for the help :)
[19:55] <geek_inn2> only worked in 6.06 dapper
[19:55] <dr_Willis> VolSol,  i though i saw some gdm session that said 'console login' befor also.. but i forget where.
[19:55] <mangol> isn't there any option like 'sleep' in windows
[19:55] <iceman_> Entropy, this graphics driver has known issues with linux
[19:55] <Entropy626> iceman_, you there? If it was VGA-compatible controller you were looking for, I found that...
[19:55] <Entropy626> nVidia Corporation C51G [Geforce 6100] (rev a2)
[19:55] <Finiras> volsol does it really matter? all you have to do to go from non-gdm to gdm is a enter a simple, short command
[19:55] <orangefly> anyone gotten itunes to work with ubuntu....???....
[19:55] <dacubuntu> mangol: yes, just click on the battery icon...... and then stand by
[19:55] <Entropy626> is what it says. Sorry.
[19:56] <dacubuntu> mangol: srry suspend
[19:56] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: It's working now, nice one
[19:56] <iceman_> the C51G is problems
[19:56] <Entropy626> Oh.
[19:56] <Entropy626> Should I look for an older one?
[19:56] <iceman_> you will have to manually install the driver.
[19:56] <sportman1280> Hello, I am trying to install ATI drivers.  I have done this, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_driver_the_Ubuntu_Way however the mesa drivers still show up and i have to use low graphics mode
[19:56] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: Excellent!
[19:56] <mangol> dacubuntu: I get this option 'suspend' when In shutdown dialog also.
[19:56] <mangol> but it doesn't suspend
[19:57] <mangol> just locks the screen
[19:57] <FelixTheCat> Xavura: Let me give you a site to reference for later: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[19:57] <iceman_> Entropy, have you tried update the system
[19:57] <Xavura> FelixTheCat: thanks
[19:57] <VolSol> finiras: Would I ask if it didn't matter? I'm not attempting to be rude. I just wanted to know if it's possible/easy. I asked and got my answer.
[19:57] <Entropy626> I have updated the GPU driver recently. This *should* be the latest one... If that is what you mean.
[19:58] <iceman_> Xubuntu Ubuntu same
[19:58] <Entropy626> Heh?
[19:59] <Entropy626> I'm running the Update Manager now..
[19:59] <iceman_> are you running KDE or gnome?
[19:59] <Entropy626> KDE
[19:59] <iceman_> oh
[19:59] <iceman_> okay
[19:59] <Entropy626> That's not good, is it?
[19:59] <Entropy626> I can go to a Gnome boot disk, if that would simplify things...
[19:59] <iceman_> its been awhile since KDE for my
[19:59] <iceman_> no worries.
[20:00] <iceman_> you might be running on restriced drivers though.
[20:00] <Entropy626> *whew*
[20:00] <Entropy626> ...How do I fix that? Or do I have a choice?
[20:01] <iceman_> you should stick with what you feel comfortable with.
[20:01] <iceman_> for me its Gnome
[20:01] <blockhd> anyone here nvidia gfx user?
[20:01] <Entropy626> GFX? Is that GeForce?
[20:01] <blockhd> nvidia graphics card
[20:01] <blockhd> yes geforce :P
[20:01] <iceman_> Entropy use the nvidia gfx
[20:01] <Entropy626> blockhd, I'm using an Nvidia 6100 GPU
[20:01] <iceman_> like blockhd
[20:01] <Entropy626> Geforce 6100, that is
[20:02] <geek_inn2> screen resolution problems with lg monitor when i set resolution:800*600 the screen get scrambled and flickrs continuesly
[20:02] <iceman_> brb
[20:02] <geek_inn2> i filed bug in launchpad but the devels seems busy
[20:02] <blockhd> Entropy, can you help me chose the right driver?
[20:02] <blockhd> for my geforce 4 ti4400?
[20:02] <geek_inn2> i have intel motherboard 845,i dont want to edit files in xorg i dont want to crash my system
[20:02] <Entropy626> 0_o
[20:02] <Entropy626> *fear*
[20:02] <dacubuntu> hello? psp transfer rates
[20:02] <dacubuntu> any1 got the weird transfer rates?
[20:03] <Entropy626> I'll try, block. What version of 'buntu you running?
[20:03] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: editing xorg.conf isn't going to crash your system, and it's quite easy to fix it if you put settings in there that cause X11 to not start properly
[20:03] <blockhd> newest
[20:03] <blockhd> 7.06
[20:03] <Entropy626> Heron?
[20:03] <blockhd> hardy heron
[20:03] <blockhd> sth
[20:03] <whalebone> back in a sec, gonna restart x
[20:04] <Entropy626> Hmm... Let me restart into Gnome real quick. 1 min...
[20:04] <ventusignis> What other than the Xorg config, can cause my computer to go into safe graphics mode?
[20:04] <blockhd> kay
[20:04] <blockhd> ventus
[20:04] <blockhd> no idea :D
[20:05] <theshelter> can someone help me figure out why my bottom panel is at the top and won't go back to the bottom?
[20:05] <Fryguy--> ventusignis: nothing really
[20:05] <ventusignis> Well, my config hasn't changed, and it worked before.
[20:06] <geek_inn2> i have installed intel945 something that says its easy 2 fix resolution so how 2 edit to force resolution @800*600,although it works well in xp.only hardy/ubuntu is flickring.they said bullet proof?
[20:06] <whalebone> lol, that didnt work either
[20:06] <SPhcT> what is best soft for 500mhz 512 ram and 4mb video??
[20:06] <karname> my amule cannot connect and show this massage : no valid server found in server list , what i should do ?
[20:07] <geek_inn2> os i think...........u mean@sphct
[20:08] <geek_inn2> iam clueless
[20:08] <frodo> SPhct: Question is what applications do you want to run.?
[20:08] <l1m1t> irc://irc.ubuntu.com/liveusb
[20:09] <geek_inn2> where is bullet proof x server? i get screen resolution probs setting 800*600
[20:09] <SPhcT> frodo: internet, java, skype, office, and some small games in there
[20:09] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: there's only 1 mainstream X server at this point, is it driver you are talking about?
[20:09] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: which driver are you using currently
[20:09] <geek_inn2> its hardy defauly
[20:09] <geek_inn2> well in xp i have mobo drivers
[20:09] <frodo> SPhct: And than check the needs of those applications.
[20:10] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: is there any restricted driver for you to install?
[20:10] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: have you tried switching to the "intel" driver in your xorg.conf?
[20:10] <geek_inn2> the update manager says none
[20:10] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: not the update manager, the restricted drivers manager
[20:10] <geek_inn2> noo i haven't
[20:10] <SPhcT> frodo: i was think wat operating sistem will be good for  500mhz 512 ram and 4mb video
[20:10] <frodo> SPhct: 4 Mb ram is some what poor.
[20:11] <Fryguy--> SPhcT: check out xubuntu
[20:11] <whalebone> geek_inn2: join the clueless club, i am a founding member. :)
[20:11] <frodo> SPhct: Ubuntu desktop wil run.
[20:11] <Fryguy--> SPhcT: it's an ubuntu setup that uses a less resource intensive default desktop (xfce)
[20:11] <geek_inn2> yes restricted drivers manager says "you dont need".iam only using intel mobo no graphics card
[20:11] <SPhcT> Fryguy--: on it will work skype firefox..?
[20:12] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: ok, so try changing driver in xorg.conf to intel
[20:12] <Fryguy--> SPhcT: yes
[20:12] <geek_inn2> hehe,not interested@whale
[20:12] <geek_inn2> how fry
[20:12] <blockhd> guys
[20:12] <blockhd> are you using nvidia graphic cards?
[20:13]  * gordonjcp is
[20:13] <blockhd> i need help choosing right driver
[20:13] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, scroll down to the video card section, change the driver to intel, and then restart X.
[20:13] <blockhd> for it
[20:13] <dr_Willis> blockhd,  i imagine a great many of us are using nvidia.
[20:13] <Fryguy--> blockhd: use the restricted driver from the restricted drivers manager
[20:13] <blockhd> Fryguy is restricted the best?
[20:13] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: if X doesn't restart correctly, hit ctrl-alt-f1 and change it back
[20:13] <Fryguy--> blockhd: yes
[20:13] <blockhd> or could community drivers eb better?
[20:13] <blockhd> hwo do i access restricted driver manager?
[20:13] <geek_inn2> what if i want 2 upgrade 2 hardy 8.04.1
[20:13] <Fryguy--> blockhd: restricted driver is probably the best.  Both are available and easy to install, so why not try both?
[20:14] <blockhd> i am newbie
[20:14] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: so then upgrade to hardy 8.04.1
[20:14] <blockhd> and got no idea
[20:14] <Fryguy--> blockhd: you obviously have some idea since you've tracked these drivers down
[20:14] <geek_inn2> fryguy how 2 install intel mobo drivers?
[20:14] <blockhd> Fryguy-- true
[20:14] <Fryguy--> blockhd: i'm telling you that the restricted driver is probably the best choice.  There's plenty of documentation available for installing other drivers, you are free to change it and experiment if you want
[20:14] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: it's already installed
[20:14] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: just put it in xorg.conf and see if you can use it
[20:14] <dieter_> tag zusammen
[20:15] <Subrock> Hiya, can someone tell me how to watch youtube videos nicely with utumbu, this system has terrible lag and picture freezes
[20:15] <theshelter> Great...now my panel has disappeared completely
[20:15] <Fryguy--> Subrock: flash works fine in ubuntu installs, and youtube playback is fine.  You'll have to give us some more details if you want us to help you isolate the problem.
[20:16] <Meloco> lo all
[20:17] <Subrock> fry: I am not sure, but it really seems that this whole system is whole lotta laggier than XP I have used to use
[20:17] <geek_inn2> silly work at brainstorm
[20:17] <geek_inn2> the dev are doing silly stuff,no profession approach
[20:17] <Fryguy--> Subrock: again, I can't help you unless you give me something to work with
[20:18] <whalebone> this dual monitor stuff is madness
[20:18] <bindaas> ﻿hi all ,is there any way to make a link to a file even when it is dependent on other files in a directory?
[20:18] <Explo> *resists temptation to do sparta joke*
[20:18] <Fryguy--> bindaas: care to be more specific?  From what i'm gathering from your question, I think the answer is "no" but i want to be sure
[20:19] <whalebone> lol
[20:19] <Subrock> fry: hmm, it might have something to do with my internet connection
[20:19] <blockhd> i have one more question. is there any advanced mouse sensitivity settings software?
[20:19] <blockhd> because my razer copperhead is impossible
[20:19] <KR-data> I have a problem with a Maxtor usb harddrive, witch won't show in /dev/, I can see it with lsusb. Anyone who has any ideas?
[20:19] <whalebone> iceman, you still here?
[20:19] <Explo> KR-data: did you try mounting it?
[20:20] <bindaas> Fryguy--: just making a ln to a file but file is dependent on other for example file1 ,so making ln will not work ..
[20:20] <bindaas> or is there any way?
[20:20] <Fryguy--> blockhd: as far as I know, the only easy to use sensitivity settings are in the mouse panel in the menu.  If you need more advanced configuration of your mouse, you'll have to consult the documentation for X and put the appropriate configuration into xorg.conf
[20:20] <KR-data> Explo, if it's not in /dev/ how can I mount it?
[20:20] <geek_inn2> trouble using firefox 2 in hardy
[20:20] <Fryguy--> bindaas: right, using ln will make the file be used from another directory
[20:20] <geek_inn2> i installed manually.doesnt allow me to instal extensions
[20:20] <geek_inn2> says some error
[20:20] <noelferreira> any solution for the keys getting stuk bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/124406
[20:21] <Subrock> fry: sorry to bother, I must make some investigations first, but this utumbu has really lagged for some reason, for example now as I write I see the word for as my last input and the program window gets gray every now and then
[20:21] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: "some error"?
[20:21] <Explo> KR-data: ok, bad on my part. It's removable, so it might be in /media?
[20:21] <geek_inn2> i hate ff3 because many extensions wont work
[20:21] <Fryguy--> Subrock: what video card are you using
[20:21] <Fryguy--> Explo: no, /media is mountpoints, not devices
[20:22] <KR-data> Explo, the mount should, if it mounts, but if the system ain't able to create a device in /dev/ the automount systems won't be able to mount it
[20:22] <Fryguy--> KR-data: is there any messages in dmesg or /var/log/messages when you first connect the drive?
[20:22] <SPhcT> Fryguy--: ubuntu and xubuntu will be big differnece in spped?
[20:22] <SPhcT> speed?
[20:22] <yesitisjustme> does ubuntu have a frugal install or just regular install?
[20:22] <Fryguy--> SPhcT: xubuntu takes fewer resources to run
[20:23] <blockhd> SPhcT: i think yes
[20:23] <blockhd> and its also less gfx dependable
[20:23] <KR-data> Fryguy--, http://pastebin.ca/1062459 from dmesg, I'll check the log
[20:23] <Fryguy--> yesitisjustme: there are several base setups available.  if by "frugal" you mean not much installed by default, check out the ubuntu server install, which doesn't install X by default
[20:23] <SPhcT> u use it?
[20:23] <theshelter> can anyone tell me a trick to force show my bottom panel after it has been hidden?
[20:23] <yesitisjustme> ok
[20:23] <dr_Willis> yesitisjustme,  frugal? Only time ive heard of a frugal install is with PuppyLinux.
[20:23] <SPhcT> blockhd: you use it?
[20:23] <Fryguy--> theshelter: what happened to it?
[20:23] <blockhd> SPhcT, i have used it
[20:23] <blockhd> ive been using it
[20:23] <yesitisjustme> ok
[20:24] <blockhd> before i got my ti4400
[20:24] <KR-data> Fryguy--, messages gives the same with less details
[20:24] <blockhd> its faster with old graphic cards
[20:24] <blockhd> definately
[20:24] <Subrock> fryguy: I have Asus nVidia GeForce N6200
[20:24] <geek_inn2> hey how do i enable intel drivers
[20:24] <theshelter> It's been fracked up since my computer froze...was at the top when it should be at the bottom...and wouldn't let me move to the bottom...then it autohid and I can't see any of the arrows to make it reappear
[20:24] <Fryguy--> KR-data: looks like some of the information on the drive is bad, see if googling for something like "usb drive can't mount, error -71" gives you any clues.  I don't have any specific answers for you
[20:25] <SPhcT> blockhd i need it for internet skype office and unbuntu deflaut games.. it will work?
[20:25] <Fryguy--> Subrock: and have you installed correct drivers for it (probably from the restricted drivers manager)
[20:25] <blockhd> SPhcT: yes
[20:25] <KR-data> Fryguy--, ok, I'll try, thanks
[20:25] <blockhd> probably also gnome would work, but id take xubuntu
[20:25] <Fryguy--> !resetpanel
[20:25] <blockhd> brb
[20:25] <blockhd> resetting machine
[20:25] <blockhd> which is the best media player for gnome?
[20:26] <whalebone> ok, anyone on who can help with a dual monitor issue?
[20:26] <Fryguy--> blockhd: i recommend using smplayer
[20:26] <Fryguy--> blockhd: it uses QT libs, but it's really a nice media player
[20:26] <Fryguy--> whalebone: ask a question, don't ask to ask
[20:26] <blockhd> i need it to have eq, media library, some peaks
[20:26] <Explo> blockhd: I prefer songbird, but it's all choice really
[20:26] <blockhd> does it have that vinsulation?
[20:26] <dennda> !french
[20:27] <Subrock> fryguy:it says I have driver for Nvidia-cards installed (3rd party drivers)
[20:27] <theshelter> holy crap it worked...Ok can you help me with one other thing...why when I try to set it to bottom does it pop back to top (in the menu)...it won't let me move it to the bottom still
[20:27] <blockhd> Fryguy, you use Mplayer to play music?
[20:27] <blockhd> smplayer is frontend for mplayer?
[20:27] <Fryguy--> Subrock: open up a terminal and type "glxinfo | grep -i direct"
[20:27] <gordonjcp> !best | blockhd
[20:27] <Fryguy--> blockhd: it is, and no i don't use it to play music
[20:27] <Fryguy--> blockhd: i don't use ubuntu
[20:28] <gordonjcp> blockhd: that said, audacious is a nice little mp3 player
[20:28] <Fryguy--> blockhd: you asked for media player, so I gave a recommendation
[20:28] <blockhd> i meant music
[20:28] <CroX> My system has locked up .. again. No new programs can be started, I can't even log out since that log out screen refuses to show. Could anyone please help me figure out what is wrong? It might be related to sound ceasing to work, unless that's just a symptom of the system freezing up.
[20:28] <blockhd> yes, for movies, i use mplayer, its best.
[20:28] <karenw> Hi - Just wanted to make sure Xchat was working ok here.
[20:28] <Fryguy--> blockhd: i use smplayer and foobar2000 on windows for media playback (smplayer for video, foobar for audio)
[20:28] <bindaas> ﻿Fryguy--: i am making link to a executable in a directory which is extracted from tar
[20:28] <karenw> New Ubuntu setup
[20:28] <nirai> anyone knows mercurial? how can I set file filtering in the .hgrc file?
[20:28] <Subrock> fry: output was: "direct rendering: Yes"
[20:28] <rand0m> there has got to be a more effective, sleak bittorrent client than transmission.. anyone know one similar to uTorrent?
[20:29] <whalebone> dual monitors Dell E177FPf and E173Fpf, ATI Radeon X300SE, opensource drivers installed. Both panels show desktop and start button, starting a program from either opens it on that monitor, but itcannot then be moved to the other
[20:29] <whalebone> also, the mouse will move from one to the other
[20:29] <Fryguy--> Subrock: ok, so your video card id sest up correctly
[20:29] <KR-data> Fryguy--, found a strange solution :S "sudo rmmod ehci_hcd" do you know why that works and why that module give me trouble?
[20:29] <whalebone> and the monitors are reversed, right monitor is physically located on left side and vice-a-versa
[20:30] <Fryguy--> whalebone: you have your monitors set up in the wrong mode, there's another dual mode that allows 1 large cohesive desktop instead of 2 separate desktops
[20:30] <Fryguy--> KR-data: ubuntu might be loading the wrong usb drivers for your system
[20:30] <whalebone> hmm, is that the same "mode" that winxp uses?
[20:30] <blockhd> Explo
[20:30] <Fryguy--> KR-data: there's 2 types of usb buses, ehci and i think the other is ohci, some systems use one or the other, and sometimes they can both be loaded without conflicts
[20:31] <Fryguy--> rand0m: deluge
[20:31] <whalebone> under windows, one cohesive desktop makes priograms open in the middle of the desktop, which spans half the window of the program on each desktop
[20:31] <Explo> yeah?
[20:31] <whalebone> or i am getting my lingo backwards :)
[20:31] <KR-data> Fryguy--, ok, but isn't the kernel usually able to handle that without any trouble?
[20:31] <Fryguy--> KR-data: keyword there is "usually"
[20:31] <Explo> brb
[20:31] <rand0m> Fryguy--, thanks yet again mate, cheers
[20:32] <KR-data> Fryguy--, good answer :p
[20:32] <Fryguy--> Subrock: if you turn off desktop effects, do you still get the same general lagginess?
[20:32] <Subrock> fry: I gotta do some researching, I'll get back if something is found, this is really starnge that even this irc is lagging this much that I can type a sentence faster than the writing line updates
[20:32] <whalebone> i read that i should do these commands : sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=left
[20:32] <dr_Willis> whalebone,  ive seen 'dumb' programs do that. but with my Nvidia video cards and the Nvidia twinview. Its not much of an issue.
[20:32] <Subrock> fry: where are these found?
[20:32] <whalebone> and sudo aticonfig -dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1
[20:32] <dr_Willis> whalebone,  ati has a similer extension i belive also.
[20:32] <Fryguy--> Subrock: system | appearance i think
[20:32] <Fryguy--> Subrock: i dunno
[20:32] <whalebone> ok, how do i fix this then?
[20:32] <whalebone> if it works, i will try anything at this point
[20:33] <dr_Willis> !dualhead
[20:33] <Fryguy--> whalebone: if you get the cohesive mode working, and windows opening up in the center of your screen annoys you, you can either configure your wm, or get another one that allows the configuration for you, or use something like devilspie that will stop that from happening
[20:33] <whalebone> this is also off a dual head card, not two cards
[20:34] <whalebone> ok, how do i get cohesive mode to work. I am something of a newb here i think :)
[20:34] <deekayen> i was working and x crashed
[20:34] <deekayen> when I logged back in, I got a session lasted less than 10 seconds error
[20:34] <bindaas> ﻿Fryguy--: i have actually extracted firefox's tar and i am making link to a script firefox but its not working , here is error-->http://pastebin.com/m2144b64c
[20:34] <deekayen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25064/
[20:34] <Fryguy--> whalebone: in linux, the window manager (wm), is a separate standalone component.  If has it's own settings for managing what to do with windows in all sorts of situations (and some with some really funky rulesets).  It can be configured and/or swapped out for another one to suit your needs
[20:34] <Fryguy--> bindaas: any reason why you aren't using the firefox in ubuntu?
[20:34] <whalebone> i think i am missing something here
[20:34] <deekayen> xgl used to have a bunch of errors in there, so I removed it, but it still dumps me back to gdm
[20:34] <whalebone> my wm is set to the hardy default
[20:35] <whalebone> whatever that is
[20:35] <bindaas> ﻿Fryguy-- : no :)
[20:35] <whalebone> this is a fresh install and full updated as of 2pm or so
[20:35] <Fryguy--> whalebone: of course it is, i'm informing you that you can change the configuration for it, or use another one
[20:35] <CelticLord> slt
[20:35] <whalebone> alrighty, how would i do that? or cxan you point me to a tute that will show me?
[20:36] <Fryguy--> bindaas: use packages in ubuntu's repository unless you have a very good reason not to.  The repository is the primary reason why ubuntu is what it is.  If you decide to go off and install packages on your own, you become responsible for managing those packages, and are responsible for all problems associated with those packages :)
[20:36] <Fryguy--> whalebone: if you install compizconfig-settings-manager, there are plenty of options in there for controlling how windows appear on the screen
[20:36] <deekayen> i saw someone removed ~/.gnome2/session to fix this, but I don't have a session file there
[20:37] <bendb> I just burned three 8.04.1 CDs - one each of server, alternate, and desktop.  How can I verify that I labelled them correctly?
[20:37] <bindaas> ﻿Fryguy--: sure but i was just trying that stuff
[20:37] <whalebone> ok, first off, the cohesive mode thing is not set and i do not think the something is setup correctly to begin with.
[20:37] <Fryguy--> deekayen: what is the problem?
[20:37] <whalebone> this is not a "my windows are not appearing correctly issue"
[20:37] <rand0m> bendb, you pay attention to what you're doing while burning :P.. jk i feel you man, i did the same thing.. no clue how.. i just reburnt them cuz cds are cheap
[20:37] <neurodamage> does ubuntu have any magic way to login if i forgot all my passwords :), cause it's so user friendly or do I need a livecd and a bit of the old live cd with passwd root command ?
[20:37] <Fryguy--> whalebone: i thought you said you found directions on how to reconfigure your dual display to do what you wanted
[20:38] <whalebone> no
[20:38] <Fryguy--> neurodamage: option 2
[20:38] <whalebone> not yet
[20:38] <Prose> anyone care to explain what a Persistent Install is ?
[20:38] <whalebone> :)
[20:38] <deekayen> Fryguy--: x crashed in the middle of my work and when I logged back in, it gives me a session lasted less than 10 seconds error and points me to http://paste.ubuntu.com/25064/
[20:38] <whalebone> thats why i am here
[20:38] <FloodBot1> whalebone: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <neurodamage> Fryguy--, that's what I figured :), I was just messing around :)
[20:38] <nickrud> neurodamage boot in recovery mode (hit escape at boot where it says) , you're root there. Reset passwords
[20:38] <deekayen> Fryguy--: and it keeps dumping me back into gdm
[20:39] <Fryguy--> deekayen: what happens if you choose failsafe in gdm
[20:39] <deekayen> Fryguy--: I can only failsafe into the terminal
[20:39] <Fryguy--> deekayen: there is no failsafe gnome?
[20:39] <whalebone> dual monitors Dell E177FPf and E173Fpf, ATI Radeon X300SE, opensource drivers installed. Both panels show desktop and start button, starting a program from either opens it on that monitor, but itcannot then be moved to the other
[20:39] <peeaivo_> hello, how can i make ubuntu boot to runlevel 3?
[20:39] <deekayen> Fryguy--: there is, but it gives me the same error
[20:39] <whalebone> anyone?
[20:40] <bendb> neurodamage: If you have a prompt, the command 'sudo passwd username' should work, where username is your username
[20:40] <nickrud> peeaivo_ runlevel 3 in ubuntu is same as 2 , this isn't redhat
[20:40] <Fryguy--> deekayen: sorry, don't know
[20:40] <darkblue_b> Q. so what is it aout getting later packages? for example, the prigramming interface SWIG..I ust removed the 1.3 that was there.. where do I look to get a later packager? or fnd if  its available?
[20:40]  * deekayen sighs
[20:41] <Fryguy--> darkblue_b: apt-cache search will allow you to search for packages, or use the synaptic gui for search
[20:41] <nickrud> peeaivo_ what are you trying to accomplish?
[20:41] <peeaivo_> im trying to boot to text mode, you know
[20:41] <darkblue_b> Fryguy--: well.. the one in synapitc now is not new enough
[20:42] <Mr_Bad_News> i have this problem with my wireless card dying all suddenly like
[20:42] <Fryguy--> darkblue_b: well that is all that is available in the ubuntu repositories then.  Check out getdeb.net or build the package yourself manually
[20:42] <Mr_Bad_News> does anyone know how i fix this?
[20:42] <Subrock> fry: system monitor says that processor usage is 98-100% all the time, and this typing makes it stay over 100 all the time as I write
[20:42] <whalebone> its considered good etiquette to let someone know when you have decided you are not able to help them further
[20:42] <nickrud> peeaivo_ you can remove rename S30gdm to K30gdm in /etc/rc2.d
[20:42] <Fryguy--> Subrock: open up a terminal and type top
[20:42] <peeaivo_> ok
[20:42] <darkblue_b> Fryguy--: getdeb.net.. looking
[20:42] <whalebone> instead of letting them sit thinking you are gonna help them further. lo
[20:42] <Fryguy--> Subrock: and identify the process that is running out of control
[20:42] <nickrud> peeaivo_ or, simply hit ctl-atl-f1 to get a text console
[20:42] <Mr_Bad_News> i'll be on the net and all the sudden my wireless card stops receiving and sending packets
[20:42] <Mr_Bad_News> and nothing shows up in iwlist scan
[20:43] <deekayen> one thing that's not making it into the xsession-errors file, but shows in the error message is (shortened): GnomeUI-warning IO error occured opening connection
[20:43] <darkblue_b> no luck.. going from source then
[20:43] <whalebone> dual monitors Dell E177FPf and E173Fpf, ATI Radeon X300SE, opensource drivers installed. Both panels show desktop and start button, starting a program from either opens it on that monitor, but itcannot then be moved to the other
[20:43] <whalebone> anyone know how to fix this?
[20:43] <Subrock> fry: memory and swap seem to be at lower level and I think the netspeed is alright too, okay, wait a sec, I'l check
[20:43] <nickrud> !xxinerama | whalebone
[20:43] <nickrud> !xinerama | whalebone
[20:44] <whalebone> thanks
[20:44] <whalebone> i really appreciate that :)
[20:44] <whalebone> will that work with ATI cards as well?
[20:44] <nickrud> whalebone don't ask for details from me, I haven't run dual monitors in years
[20:44] <nickrud> whalebone but it works with mismatched cards as weel
[20:44]  * Fryguy-- just runs 1 very large monitor intead, so he doesn't know anymore either
[20:45] <whalebone> sorry i asked for details, i assumed i was in a channel where ppl could ask questions
[20:45] <whalebone> and thank you Fry for all your help
[20:45] <Subrock> fryguy: firefox takes 45%
[20:46] <nickrud> whalebone oh, yes, ask. Just don't expect more from me, I'm letting you know I can't help any more than I did ;)
[20:46] <whalebone> lol
[20:46] <Fryguy--> whalebone: it is, and we either answer you or point you to a location that has all of the information you need, or try to guide you in the right direction to find what you need, or we say "I dunno" and you are out of luck
[20:46] <whalebone> fair enough brother
[20:46] <Fryguy--> Subrock: what elsde
[20:48] <anteaya> i was able to change the keyboard mapping via xmodmap, but when i rebooted it revered back, how do i make the change permanent?
[20:48] <anteaya> reverted
[20:48] <Fryguy--> anteaya: make a .Xmodmap file
[20:48] <Fryguy--> anteaya: in your home diredctory
[20:48] <anteaya> Fryguy--, okay i will do that
[20:48] <will02> i was trying to access some files on a remote server im testing and i get the error  "could not open file... generic error" from nautilus
[20:49] <will02> any ideas as to whats the problem?
[20:49] <Fryguy--> will02: what protocol were you using?
[20:49] <will02> fryguy-- im using a hamachi vpn but i also cannot connect via the vnc i set up using the tools that ubuntu comes with
[20:50] <Subrock> fryguy: Xorg, Xchat-gnome,  init, metacity, gnome-terminal, gnome-screensaver, gnome-panel and many more these all flash evey now and then at te top, behind firefox, don't recognize these myself, Xorg stays there almost all the time with chat and firefox
[20:50] <Fryguy--> will02: so how are you accessing the files
[20:50] <will02> i use nautilus to navigate to the samba share that i have over the vpn
[20:50] <engineer> i use konqueror
[20:51] <anteaya> Fryguy--, the contents of this new .xmodmap file?  What should go into it?
[20:51] <stewe> ciao a tutti
[20:51] <will02> fryguy-- i dont know all the details of how it works, all i know is that it works
[20:51] <Fryguy--> will02: you are probably specifying the wrong credentials to log in to the samba share then, make sure you are specifying the correct workgroup or domain
[20:51] <will02> ok
[20:51] <Fryguy--> anteaya: the settings that you want.  I don't have the syntax memorized for it.  There should be a manpage about xmodmap (or some google results for doing various things with it)
[20:52] <Fryguy--> Subrock: what happens if you close firefox?
[20:52] <Fryguy--> Subrock: does the machine behave correctly for the most part?
[20:52] <anteaya> Fryguy--, thank you
[20:53] <rand0m> when using desktop plane mode with compiz, how can I get it so I can grab an open windows titlebar and drag it to other workspaces in the plane ?  i had it like that when i was using desktop cube mode but not sure what the option is called to allow cross workspacing dragging
[20:54] <Fryguy--> rand0m: have you looked at compizconfig-settings-manager?
[20:54] <rand0m> yeah im using ccsm right now
[20:54] <rand0m> just not sure exactly what option it would be, there's so many
[20:54] <deekayen> does it help explain my <10 second x session error messages if I paste "GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager"
[20:54] <Fryguy--> rand0m: the option to do what you want should be right there, probably with a similar name to the cube option
[20:54] <bendb>       To answer my own question: I mounted each .iso image as a loopback device, and then compared (using diff) the md5sums.txt files.
[20:55] <komputes> rand0m: you may find answers in the #compiz-fusion channel
[20:55] <rand0m> nice, thanks guys
[20:55] <Subrock> fryguy: let's try, I try to type a line again here, at least it seems to, but no, when the line get's longer than this window, it starts to freeze again, and this xchat takes 57% of CPU
[20:56] <Subrock> fryguy: it seems that my CPU is too old for utumbu, XP uses it well but utumbu seems too heavy ;P
[20:57] <Fryguy--> Subrock: maybe the out of the box ubuntu install is like that, but you can configure it to be as slim as you want.  Ubuntu is built on top of a base system that I've had running on a 486 with 4mb ram
[20:57] <thiebaude> wow fryguy
[20:57] <Fryguy--> Subrock: it x-chat is using that much cpu, it's probably having a bad interaction with something.  Have you tried turning off desktop effects?
[20:58] <Subrock> fryguy: what is this Xorg process? I turned desktop effects of
[20:58] <Fryguy--> Subrock: Xorg is the process responsible for your gui
[20:58] <Subrock> fryguy: okay, thanks
[20:59] <blockhd> yaaaaaay
[20:59] <blockhd> finally
[20:59] <blockhd> =d
[20:59] <blockhd> its all working
[20:59] <FloodBot1> blockhd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:59] <Fryguy--> blockhd: ?
[20:59] <dksaarth> can anybody here help me with a e220 card on ubuntu hardy ? (connects and disconnects (to the computer, not to the internet)
[20:59] <anteaya> Fryguy--, thanks i created a symlink between the xmodmap file of choice to my home directory calling it .xmodmap, seems to work.  Thanks
[20:59] <Kalisto> anyone here run an Asus Eee with ubuntu?
[20:59] <blockhd> songbird is great!!!!!!! graphic card working
[20:59] <Fryguy--> Kalisto: www.ubuntu-eee.com or something
[20:59] <thiebaude> blockhd:songbird is great
[21:00] <Nikilos> Hi everyone. I just installed the updates for Hardy, and now Network Manager doesn't even show an option for wireless connections. Could someone help me with that?
[21:00] <blockhd> thiebaude: it really is!!! :)
[21:00] <thiebaude> blockhd:i also like pandora
[21:00] <dksaarth> i.e. i get the /dev/ttyUSB0, but then it dissapears, then reappears, then dissapears etc
[21:00] <thiebaude> kewl blockhd
[21:00] <blockhd> thiebaude does songbird have any eq?
[21:00] <Kalisto> Fryguy--, yea i know. but my wireless is not working with wpa-psk. it works without encryption. im totally lost
[21:00] <Fryguy--> Kalisto: have you set up wpa supplicant
[21:00] <thiebaude> blockhd: eq?
[21:00] <blockhd> equaliser
[21:00] <Fryguy--> Kalisto: there's lots of documentation on ubuntu wiki about setting up WPA, have you read it yet?
[21:00] <Kalisto> Fryguy--, well its installed and im using wicd.
[21:01] <thiebaude> blockhd:its just a music radio flash site
[21:01] <Kalisto> Fryguy--, i have not fiddles with wpa supp, (like edited conf files)
[21:01] <Kalisto> fiddled*
[21:01] <thiebaude> blockhd:you use amarok
[21:01] <thiebaude> ?
[21:01] <blockhd> thiebaude: yes, but its graet :D I preffer it over amarok.
[21:01] <Kalisto> Fryguy--, i just keep thinking its an issue just for the Eee.
[21:01] <blockhd> i dont need eq or sth im just asing :)
[21:02] <Fryguy--> Kalisto: probably not
[21:02] <dksaarth> anybody here know anything about the Huawei E220 ?
[21:02] <shesek> I can't get LCDd to work (no errors, it just doesn't display what it should). when I echo xx > /dev/lcd0 I do see it. how can I find the problem?
[21:02] <thiebaude> blockhd:d
[21:02] <dksaarth> (just keeps getting recognised, and then disconnected, and the cycle repeats)
[21:02] <Kalisto> Fryguy--, hmm. ok ill google general problems with wpa and ubuntu. got a tip where to look?
[21:02] <thiebaude> blockhd:ubuntu is superior to windows
[21:02] <blockhd> it is
[21:02] <blockhd> for what i need it
[21:02] <blockhd> :)
[21:02] <Fryguy--> Kalisto: googling "ubuntu wpa" should give you a bunch of wiki pages
[21:02] <blockhd> dunno about gaming
[21:02] <FloodBot1> blockhd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <Kalisto> Fryguy--, ok thanks ;)
[21:03] <whileimhere> Hi I have a bunch of old apple 3.25 disks laying around and they have a lot of my writting from college on them. Is there a way to get them off of the disc and onto my laptop? I have a 3.25 USB drive.
[21:03] <thiebaude> blockhd:alot of people dont know that
[21:03] <karenw> Can someone recommend a good "music CD player" for - running Hardy Heron 8.04 ? ?
[21:03] <geek_inn2> i am now logged in ubuntu so
[21:03] <blockhd> music cd player?
[21:03] <thiebaude> blockhd:i dont even have bill gates on my computer
[21:03] <karenw> yes
[21:03] <thiebaude> lol
[21:03] <geek_inn2> how 2 fix the intel mobo drivers issue
[21:03] <Fryguy--> karenw: amarok, banshee, exaile, rhythmbox
[21:03] <deus> gcdemu
[21:03] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: did you change driver to intel?
[21:03] <deus> the gnome gui to cdemu
[21:03] <geek_inn2> how
[21:03] <Subrock> fryguy: okay thanks for all the help, sorry I disturbed, I go now and try to hone everything a bit, I really hope I get over these, I'd like to use utumbu more but these problems make my wife think this is bad and hard-to-use system
[21:03] <deus> what is the name to the godt damn binary?
[21:04] <MrLinux> I have a question what port use VNC ?
[21:04] <karenw> Fryguy--: New to this . Thanks for suggestions - will check them out - thx
[21:04] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: 6900
[21:04] <geek_inn2> restricted drivers says "no proiperty drivers in use"
[21:04] <guestzzzzz> I have a question
[21:04] <geek_inn2> what say
[21:04] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: 5900 my mistake
[21:04] <Nikilos> geek_inn2, I'm having the same problem
[21:05] <blockhd> this skreemr
[21:05] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: right, did you change to the intel driver in xorg.conf. Or have you gone through the screens and graphics configuration menu in the system menu
[21:05] <graft> is this networkmanager memory leak bugfix going to be put in hardy updates anytime soon?
[21:05] <blockhd> it actually gives you full mp3s?
[21:05] <blockhd> :o
[21:05] <blockhd> best quality
[21:05] <geek_inn2> no i havent edited the xorg file
[21:05] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : How do I setup VNC ? I just intalled vncserver
[21:05] <guestzzzzz> how do I clean my cache with ubuntu 7.10
[21:05] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: did you run it?
[21:05] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : How ?
[21:05] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[21:06] <Fryguy--> MrLinux:  http://maketecheasier.com/set-up-a-vnc-server-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron/2008/05/30
[21:06] <thiebaude> guestzzzzz:i dont if you use sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:06] <geek_inn2> u mean system>>preferences>>screen resolution
[21:06] <geek_inn2> i did but its crashing
[21:06] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: or system administration screens and graphics
[21:07] <guestzzzzz> where do i get that
[21:07] <geek_inn2> there is only system menu where is sys administration>>?
[21:07] <geek_inn2> i mean nothing under system>>administration too
[21:07] <deus> cdemu
[21:07] <jeeves__> does anyone know if there is a channel for the evolution e-mail client?  I'm trying to set up sorting rules like I have in outlook
[21:08] <Fryguy--> jeeves__: irc.gnome.org #evolution
[21:08] <jeeves__> Fryguy--, thanks.
[21:08] <luchador> anyone here play counter strike on ubuntu
[21:08] <Fryguy--> luchador: i have
[21:08] <Nikilos> Is anyone else having problems with their wireless after the recent updates?
[21:08] <kevinmcq> Nikilos: that would all depend on what wireless card you're using
[21:09] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : That is not for Ubuntu 7.10 I don't have XDMCP
[21:09] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: yes you do
[21:09] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: How do I find out what wireless card I'm using?
[21:09] <luchador> Fryguy any idea why when i open css it will launch
[21:09] <Algyz> why my dhclient is not starting wjile booting :|
[21:09] <luchador> but then just closes
[21:09] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : But is not showing me
[21:10] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Linux/Administration/Q_22641606.html
[21:10] <Fryguy--> MrLinux:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/RemoteAccess
[21:10] <kevinmcq> Nikilos: i am not really the one to be asking that, but there are lots of ways of finding out such as going into terminal and typing in dmesg or iwconfig
[21:10] <Fryguy--> luchador: nope
[21:10] <kevinmcq> then once you know your card you can check and see if something changed in an update
[21:10] <luchador> did you run counterstrike smoothly on ubuntu?
[21:10] <Fryguy--> luchador: yes
[21:10] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: Alright, thanks, I'll try those commands
[21:11] <Chad2408m> hi, is this where I would ask a question about Samba, or would it be somewhere else?
[21:11] <spire> Which repository contains acroread? The default repositories does apparently not contain it
[21:11] <Fryguy--> Chad2408m: ask a question, and we'll direct you if you need to be directed.  you can also just try #samba
[21:11] <axel> Hallo! Is there actually a DVD of 8.04.1?
[21:11] <luchador> did you use wine to run steam Fryguy--
[21:11] <Chad2408m> Fryguy
[21:11] <geek_inn2> hey axel there is only cd media i think
[21:11] <Fryguy--> spire: http://www.vanutsteen.nl/2008/02/13/how-to-install-acroread-on-ubuntu-hardy-herron/
[21:11] <Chad2408m> whoops, sorry
[21:11] <Fryguy--> luchador: yes
[21:12] <amenado> axel do you need to have a dvd?
[21:12] <davi> How to reconfigure the keyboard
[21:12] <davi> ?
[21:12] <Fryguy--> davi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=735989
[21:12] <axel> geek_inn2: I found a DVD-version of kubuntu so i thought there should be also one for ubuntu.
[21:12] <Fryguy--> davi: http://www.howtoforge.com/changing-language-and-keyboard-layout-on-various-linux-distributions
[21:13] <amenado> davi try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[21:13] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: I tried both of the commands, and the first one gave me a huge list of things I don't understand, and the second one told me I have no wireless extensions
[21:13] <Fryguy--> davi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[21:13] <Chad2408m> Fryguy: Okay.  Im having a problem with my wireless network and SAMBA.  It wont work.  If I use ethernet cords though, it does work.  I think its because SAMBA loads before I get my IP address and such, but Im not sure. Can you or someone please help?
[21:13] <davi> thanks Fryguy--
[21:13] <Fryguy--> Chad2408m: what are you trying to do with samba
[21:14] <amenado> Chad2408m-> two separate things..which one would you like to work on first?
[21:14] <noelferreira> how can i disable my touchpad?
[21:14] <spire> Fryguy--: Thanks!
[21:14] <Chad2408m> just connect the 2 computers to use it for a lan game, then maybe get it to share files
[21:14] <axel> amenado: you never now: system crashes, installation on friend's computers without I-Net-Access, ... ... ...
[21:14] <geek_inn2> see this:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 03)
[21:14] <Fryguy--> Chad2408m: samba has nothing to do with lan game
[21:14] <geek_inn2> fryguy
[21:14] <scorch_> an1 have 8.04 and have tried the pidgin update that just came down a little bit ago?
[21:15] <deus> Gah, dont you hate downloading a package and cant find the fucking binary
[21:15] <amenado> axel-> that does not mean you have to have a dvd...would you like to have your internet access working first?
[21:15] <scorch_> pidgin does not work for me anymore
[21:15] <Fryguy--> scorch_: "does not work" doesn't mean anything to us
[21:15] <scorch_> pidgin:
[21:15] <scorch_>  Depends: libpurple0 but it is not going to be installed
[21:15] <scorch_>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[21:15] <kevinmcq> Nikilos: are you using wireless right now?
[21:15] <Chad2408m> fryguy: okay, but how would I connect them so they can talk to each other and share files (both computers run ubuntu 8.04)
[21:15] <scorch_> sypatic uninstalled pidgin
[21:15] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: No, I am using a wired connection at the moment
[21:16] <Fryguy--> Chad2408m: if they are both *nix machines, I'd recommend setting up nfs.  It's going to be faster and easier to deal with
[21:16] <scorch_> then when I go back to install it gave me that
[21:16] <amenado> noelferreira-> you can disable it from xorg.conf
[21:16] <Chad2408m> okay, do i just download it through synaptic?
[21:16] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: I'm on an Inspiron 1525, if that would help at all
[21:16] <scorch_> pidgin:
[21:16] <scorch_>  Depends: libpurple0 but it is not going to be installed
[21:16] <scorch_>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed              any ideas?
[21:16] <axel> amenado: you forget that broadband connections are not available everywhere.
[21:16] <Fryguy--> scorch_: have you done a full update of your local repository list?
[21:17] <scorch_> Fryguy:  i think...  how do i make sure
[21:17] <blockhd> hi
[21:17] <blockhd> i have problem
[21:17] <blockhd> ..
[21:17] <Fryguy--> scorch_: command line, sudo apt-get update
[21:17] <amenado> axel right, so you would like download everything? do you have a current linux installed?
[21:17] <Fryguy--> !enter | blockhd
[21:17] <blockhd> i downloaded the drivers for graphic card and enabled it. i knwo about enter, sorry. but it says its not in use and i cant enable desktop effects
[21:17] <Chad2408m> fryguy: okay, do i just download it through synaptic?
[21:17] <teckan> my installation of ubuntu doesn't pass by the 94% (configuring hardware...), but the computer does not stop responding (there is no kernel panic). is there any way to disable "hardware configuration" at installation, so that it goes straight to grub instaling after copying files? i have reinstalled it a dozen times now and I am getting desperate! please help me out. (i have it on right now, stopped at 94%; i am writing from my laptop)
[21:17] <Fryguy--> Chad2408m: pretty much, a google for "ubuntu nfs" the top 2 results are pretty detailed at getting you set up
[21:18] <Chad2408m> fryguy: okay, thanks!
[21:18] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: Before the updates, under Hardware Drivers, I remember seeing one driver that was in use in the list, but now under "Status," it says it is not in use anymore
[21:18] <spaceninja> is ubuntu-server any good?
[21:18] <teckan> (similar problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-589805.html)
[21:18] <Mr_Bad_News> my wireless card keeps dying
[21:18] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: good by what metric?
[21:18] <scorch_> fryguy: i did it then got this:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:18] <scorch_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:18] <Mr_Bad_News> does anyone know how to fix this
[21:18] <Fryguy--> scorch_: close the gui
[21:18] <karenw> Fryguy--: Found a nice simple CD player in Synaptics - Simple but works good - "goobox"... Passing along if not known.
[21:19] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: As in being minimalistic and not being file bloated, not having preinstalled server daemons and stuff
[21:19] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: I guess it fairs ok
[21:19] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: certainly not my first choice for a server OS
[21:19] <Karsynoma> I've got the same question as last night, so here goes. The recent 3d release of RuneScape utilizes OpenGL, which I know my video card can handle, but upon loading up the game, the screen ceases to update itself unless my mouse is moving around on the applet. I far exceed the minimum requirements, and my ATI drivers are installed, but I've no idea what would cause this particular issues. More details will follow afte
[21:19] <Karsynoma> r a response.
[21:19] <scorch_> fryguy: ok did it...  what now?
[21:19] <Fryguy--> scorch_: try installing pidgin again
[21:20] <Fryguy--> scorch_: also try installing each of those packages that get mentioned manually (install pidgin-data first)
[21:20] <Fryguy--> Karsynoma: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[21:20] <Fryguy--> Karsynoma: are you using direct rendering?
[21:20] <kevinmcq> Nikilos: i suggest getting help from a ubuntu support person, they can walk you through the steps to figure out whats wrong
[21:20] <scorch_> Fryguy:     pidgin:
[21:20] <scorch_>  Depends: libpurple0 but it is not going to be installed
[21:20] <scorch_>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[21:20] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: Which distributions would you prefer using with a server then
[21:20] <dashgr> hi, how do i enable java in my browser?
[21:20] <geek_inn2> xrandr say my monitor supports 800*600 but flickrs when i change it why
[21:21] <Nikilos> kevinmcq: Alright, thanks
[21:21] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : I did what says the in the forum, but my friend tell me that "unable to connect to host : connection refuzed (111)"
[21:21] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: freebsd is my primary choice for servers
[21:21] <Karsynoma> Fryguy--: direct rendering: Yes
[21:21] <Juozapas> Fryguy--: i agree with u
[21:21] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: I tried to install it, but it can't even handle my hard drive, their kernel seems to suck
[21:21] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: i'm sure that's not the case
[21:22] <spaceninja> I couldn't fdisk it
[21:22] <spaceninja> from the installation cd
[21:22] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: if you don't like my recommendation, you are free to ignore it.
[21:22] <geek_inn2> bullet proof x?
[21:22] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: I want to use it, but I can't :)
[21:22] <axel> amenado: I have. I thought I just did not find the Link on the Ubuntu Page. I don't need it sooooo eager. But thanks for your help.
[21:22] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: so go bug #freebsd people, and make sure you read the handbook before asking questions.  They are far less tolerant of stupid questions than #ubuntu is
[21:23] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: I went with crux instead, but I wanted ruby on rails, but there's no officiall ports for it
[21:23] <spaceninja> -s
[21:23] <Fryguy--> spaceninja: as it is, we are pretty offtopic for this channel, you asked for a recommendation, and I gave it
[21:23] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : I did what says the in the forum, but my friend tell me that "unable to connect to host : connection refuzed (111)"
[21:23] <Fryguy--> !repeat | MrLinux
[21:24] <Karsynoma> Fryguy--: so, any follow-up tips? Direct rendering is enabled.
[21:24] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: are you using a router?
[21:24] <Fryguy--> Karsynoma: no
[21:24] <spaceninja> Fryguy--: thanks for the recommendation :)
[21:24] <scorch_>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[21:24] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : Yes, tell me what port showl I enable
[21:24] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: 5900
[21:24] <Karsynoma> Fryguy--: thanks anyway, could have said something and not kept me hanging. =P
[21:24] <Fryguy--> Karsynoma: i could have, i'm also responding to 5-6 other people...
[21:24] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : That port is open
[21:25] <Karsynoma> Fryguy--: I'm aware of that. Thanks anyway.
[21:25] <will02> fryguy-- i tried a reboot on a whim and i could retrieve the data off the share for a while and then it suddenly stopped
[21:26] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: are you forwarding it to the correct machine?
[21:26] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : Yes
[21:26] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: what IP is vnc listening on?
[21:27] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : My external IP ? or local one
[21:27] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: what did you configure vnc to listen on?
[21:27] <scorch_> Fryguy: libpurple0:
[21:27] <scorch_>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[21:27] <Cyndrework> anyone know of a good open proxy scanning site?
[21:27] <Fryguy--> scorch_: you don't need to paste it over and over again
[21:27] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : Local
[21:27] <Fryguy--> Cyndrework: nmap works
[21:27] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: that's the problem
[21:27] <scorch_> Fry guy/: sorry
[21:28] <Cyndrework> Fryguy: need one from outside the network
[21:28] <MrLinux> Fryguy-- : I did like there says
[21:28] <Fryguy--> MrLinux: you need to be listening on the correct IP interface (or just bind it to listen on 0.0.0.0, which will bind it to all open interfaces)
[21:28] <MrLinux> In the forum
[21:28] <Fryguy--> scorch_: were you using getdeb.net's package before or something?
[21:29] <scorch_> fryguy: no
[21:29] <shesek> I can't get LCDd to work (no errors, it just doesn't display what it should). when I echo xx > /dev/lcd0 I do see it. how can I find the problem?
[21:29] <Fryguy--> scorch_: what happens if you apt-get remove pidgin pidgin-data libpurple0  and then apt-get install pidgin
[21:29] <scorch_> fryguy: let me try
[21:30] <scorch_> Fryguy: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:30] <scorch_>   pidgin: Depends: libpurple0 (>= 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.1) but it is not going to be installed
[21:30] <scorch_>           Depends: pidgin-data (< 1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.4.3-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed
[21:30] <scorch_> E: Broken packages
[21:30] <FloodBot1> scorch_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <Fryguy--> scorch_: then apparently there is a problem with the repository, you'll have to wait for a fix to become available
[21:31] <Fryguy--> scorch_: in the meantime maybe use the getdeb.net package
[21:31] <TimMatrix> How do I tell whether my Hardy Heron version is 8.04 or 8.04.1?
[21:31] <scorch_> fryguy: how?
[21:32] <Fryguy--> scorch_: getdeb.net, download it, double click....
[21:32] <scorch_> Fryguy ok thanks
[21:32] <teckan> (my internet connection is buggying; anyone answered me?)
[21:32] <landster> hello can anyone help with editing this menu.lst so my install to a memory card will boot http://pastebin.com/m378a5810 i am uncertain where i am supposed to edit the lines mentioned in the wiki
[21:32] <geek_inn2> fryguy: can we change from Xrandr
[21:33] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: no idea
[21:33] <TimMatrix> How do I tell whether my Hardy Heron version is 8.04 or 8.04.1?
[21:33] <xeer> is there a way to hide the video screen from mplayer?
[21:33] <Fryguy--> !repeat | TimMatrix
[21:33] <Fryguy--> xeer: yes, check out the command line options for mplayer.  'man mplayer' is going to highly all of the command line options available to you
[21:33] <Fryguy--> highlight*
[21:34] <Fryguy--> xeer: try something like mplayer -vo null sourcefile.mp4
[21:34] <scorch_> Fry GuyFryGUy:  ALl theygot is the 32 bit?
[21:34] <TimMatrix> I tried to look it up using System Monitor, but it shows 8.04.   Is this sufficient, or is there a terminal version that tells you the precise release number?
[21:34] <Fryguy--> scorch_: no idea
[21:34] <Fryguy--> TimMatrix: no idea
[21:35] <TimMatrix> Fryguy--: Okay, not to worry.
[21:35] <geek_inn2> fryguy: x server when will it become bullet proof?
[21:35] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: what?
[21:36] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, you could look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:36] <ElPando> when will anything pc become bullet proof?
[21:36] <geek_inn2> i mean x server that handles screen resolution,when will it become solid unbreakable
[21:36] <TimMatrix> okay, thanks
[21:36] <xeer> Fryguy--, yes the null option is possible, but it removes the GUI which is what I want to keep.
[21:36] <Curtis> anyone need help with the rtl8187b wireless card?
[21:37] <eftex> hi there
[21:37] <eftex> i am using a dark theme on my gnome desktop
[21:37] <eftex> and when using it the symbols in open-office disappear
[21:37] <Fryguy--> xeer: i'm pretty sure mplayer guis don't support displaying player controls without the video window
[21:37] <eftex> i can only see the text then :(
[21:37] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: Hmmm, it only shows 8.04, not the latest 8.04.1
[21:37] <Rabble_Leader> #postfix
[21:38] <Fryguy--> TimMatrix: from all of the documentation i'm reading on ubuntu's website and wiki, it's will be part of standard update manager, and is not distribution upgrade
[21:38] <wintermyoot> Can somebody help me? Mysql service won't start.
[21:38] <_2> can someone sujest to me why "mount /dev/sda /media" might hang ?
[21:38] <Fryguy--> wintermyoot: need an error message
[21:38] <Fryguy--> _2: mount to a subdirectory of media, not media directly
[21:38] <perlsyntax_> Boy there alot of perl  tools for ubuntu
[21:39] <perlsyntax_> :)
[21:39] <enos_> Philosophy Question: Why the heck is it that computers dont always act the same? Meaning that while something may work for me, it may not necessarily work for you, assuming we have identical specifications. For example, installing software sometimes we'll say, "let's hope this works" or "give a try it might work". If computers really are "scientific" why the heck are we praying all the time about our software?
[21:39] <deekayen> Fryguy--: re my 10 second session logging into x, does it help to know apache2 and gnome-session are segfaulting in dmesg?
[21:39] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, do you have auto update set
[21:39] <_2> Fryguy-- no that's not the problem.   media is empty and i don't normally use it anyway
[21:39] <Fryguy--> enos_: because there are an extraordinary set of variables that go into the operation of a computer
[21:39] <_2> anyone else ?
[21:39] <JonathanD> enos_: people write software
[21:39] <JonathanD> and people are fail
[21:39] <wintermyoot> after I type 'service mysql start'
[21:40] <Fryguy--> deekayen: yes it does.  are you running an overclocked system or anything
[21:40] <wintermyoot> *Starting MySQL database server mysqld
[21:40] <wintermyoot> leads to [fail]
[21:40] <Fryguy--> _2: that is the problem, mount to a subdirectory of media
[21:40] <_2> Fryguy-- no it's not.
[21:40] <deekayen> Fryguy--: no, but I did turn on ssl in apache2
[21:40] <kenan> Hi, I am trying to empty my trash bin that contains a bunch of folders and it says I can't because permission is denied. However, when these folders were on my desktop I did chmod 777 so that I could move them to the trash bin and that worked fine, so how do I get permission to completely delete them now?
[21:40] <deekayen> didn't think that would matter to gnome-session though
[21:40] <Curtis> anyone have an rtl8187b wireless card?
[21:40] <CaT_MaNZz> hello all, i have problem with my PIDGIN, what kind of IM i should you for icq on ubuntu
[21:40] <__yy> enos_: two machines having identical specifications is quite a bit rarer than you probably think
[21:40] <ariel_> TimMatrix, try this in a terminal: cat /etc/lsb-release
[21:40] <Fryguy--> deekayen: so stop apache (/etc/init.d/apache stop or something), and try this again
[21:41] <Fryguy--> kenan: what is the output of "ls -ld ~/.share/local/Trash"
[21:41] <enos_> __yy: that tells me you have little experience in the business world; I work for bank, all the computer there have identical specifications.
[21:41] <Fryguy--> CaT_MaNZz: the latest version of pidgin works with icq
[21:41] <enos_> computers*
[21:41] <_2> can someone sujest to me why "mount /dev/sda /media" might hang ?
[21:41] <CaT_MaNZz> no its not working
[21:42] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, what you could do is open system.admin.update manager click on check if it shows no updates
[21:42] <Fryguy--> _2: I just told you, it's hanging because you need to mount to a subdirectory
[21:42] <_2> can someone sujest to me why "mount /dev/sda /media/sda" might hang ?
[21:42] <ariel_> CaT_MaNZz, also meebo  works fine for icq if you don't want the actual client installed on your system.
[21:42] <TimMatrix> ariel_: Thanks, it shows that the distrib_Description="Ubuntu 8.04.1"
[21:42] <_2> Fryguy-- but you are wrong.
[21:42] <TimMatrix> cheers
[21:42] <kenan> Frygyt--: ls: cannot access /home/kenan/.share/local/Trash: No such file or directory
[21:42] <Fryguy--> _2: various services keep an eye on the contents of /media, so if you drop a bunch of stuff into /media they are going to hang
[21:42] <Fryguy--> kenan: whoops, maybe it's ~/.local/share/Trash
[21:42] <ariel_> TimMatrix, any time.
[21:42] <CaT_MaNZz> ive downloaded lastes version, Pidgin 2.4.3 and it is said to me 'your version is too old'
[21:42] <deekayen> Fryguy--: stopping apache still doesn't fix my x 10 second session
[21:42] <_2> Fryguy-- there is nothing running.
[21:42] <Fryguy--> _2: why don't you go ahead and try my solution instead of just assuming it won't work?
[21:43] <bloodrock> TimMatrix,  you should have been auto updated to 8.04.1 then been sending updates this month like chickens with hjeads cut off lol
[21:43] <_2> Fryguy-- so you can learn.   ok.   tty23 [root@dell.~] mount /dev/sda /media/sda
[21:43] <_2> and it's hung.
[21:43] <kenan> Fryguy--: drwx------ 4 kenan kenan 4096 2008-04-24 16:09 /home/kenan/.local/share/Trash
[21:43] <deekayen> Fryguy--: xfce is giving me the same box, only it's saying update-manager and something else are segfaulting because of gnome-session
[21:43] <Fryguy--> deekayen: sorry, I don't know
[21:43] <_2> Fryguy-- i'm not stupid, and i'm not a n00b   it's not the mountpoint.
[21:43] <Bullitje> simple question
[21:44] <Bullitje> how to copy with sudo ?
[21:44] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, they also released a iso of 8.04.1 on distrowatch.com
[21:44] <Fryguy--> _2: oh, wait, why are you mounting an entire drive?  you can only mount a partition
[21:44] <shesek> Bullitje, sudo cp <from> <to> ?
[21:44] <wintermyoot> Does anyone else have problems starting mysql on server?
[21:44] <_2> Fryguy-- cause it's a camera
[21:44] <Fryguy--> _2: mount /dev/sda1 (or 2, whatever you have, use cfdisk to see)
[21:44] <Bullitje> thx shesek
[21:44] <yakobmatrix> anyone can give me ubuntu mailing list?
[21:44] <_2> Fryguy-- there is no sda1
[21:44] <_2> it's not partitioned
[21:44] <Fryguy--> _2: so? it still has partitions, you can't mount an entire drive, you can only mount a partition
[21:44] <_2> no
[21:44] <Fryguy--> _2: it needs to be
[21:44] <_2> no
[21:45] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: I always update it as and when it becomes available.  THing is that when I look up System Monitor, it shows 8.04, and my email from Ubuntu says the latest is 8.04.1, which is why I was puzzled.  But I am glad that ariel has solved my question.
[21:45] <Fryguy--> _2: /dev/sda is a block level device, it needs partitions to mount as a usb mass storage device
[21:45] <_2> Fryguy-- i dont even have a partition on my /dev/hda
[21:45] <bloodrock> also can get iso of 8.04.1 at unbuntu.com
[21:45] <kenan> Fryguy--: drwx------ 4 kenan kenan 4096 2008-04-24 16:09 /home/kenan/.local/share/Trash
[21:45] <_2> and it's mounted on /home
[21:45] <yakobmatrix> does anyone know any ubuntu maliling list? I'd like to join
[21:45] <Fryguy--> _2: /dev/hda isn't being used anymore, it was obsoleted a few kernel versions ago
[21:45] <_2> Fryguy-- it's mounted on /home
[21:45] <Fryguy--> kenan: i saw it the first time, I don't know what the problem is
[21:45] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: I agree, but why download 700Mb, when I can get it upgraded via Synaptic Manager>?
[21:45] <Fryguy--> _2: pastebin the output of df
[21:45] <_2> Fryguy-- ;/
[21:46] <kenan> Hi, I am trying to empty my trash bin that contains a bunch of folders and it says I can't because permission is denied. However, when these folders were on my desktop I did chmod 777 so that I could move them to the trash bin and that worked fine, so how do I get permission to completely delete them now?
[21:46] <_2> Fryguy-- here http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3682aa14
[21:46] <_2> now stop being a jerk
[21:46] <Fryguy--> _2: not being a jerk, i'm trying to help you find the problem
[21:46] <Fryguy--> _2: I don't know the solution
[21:46] <Redian> Hey, could someone give me some assistance with configuring vmwareplayer for  use on xubuntu? the xubuntu channel seems to be dead, otherwise I'd ask there...
[21:46] <bloodrock> timMthats for sure
[21:46] <Fryguy--> _2: and i don't want to bother helping you find it anymore.  Sorry I couldn't help you, have a nice day
[21:47] <Bullitje> shesek question continuing, what is the command for creating a directory ?
[21:47] <_2> Fryguy-- yeank you.
[21:47] <_2> thank
[21:47] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: mkdir
[21:47] <Bullitje> thx
[21:47] <aman> hey how creative cam work ubuntu
[21:47] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, was just telling in case ya didnt know i'm slow lol
[21:47] <unop> kenan, sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[21:48] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: lol, no worries, thanks for the help.
[21:48] <acp_> kenan: can you do ls -al and paste one sample of the file that you want to delete?
[21:48] <Fryguy--> unop: does ~ work with sudo?  it doesn't assume a login shell?
[21:48] <Bullitje> is there also a way to be root for a few minutes
[21:48] <Bullitje> without constantly using sudo
[21:48] <bloodrock> TimMatrix, i tried out the 8.10 it's a mess lol
[21:48] <ariel_> you can always login via terminal with sudo -s
[21:48] <Bullitje> just doing it graphical noo bway
[21:48] <Redian> Bullitje: su
[21:48] <_2> for the record.   i have never seen mount just hang like this befor.   i can't even kill -9 the process it's fully hung but doesn't seem to be affecting the rest of the system.
[21:48] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: 'sudo su' will make you be root until you close that terminal
[21:48] <unop> Fryguy--, you have to understand that all globbing and expansion is done before bash passes the command line to sudo -- so  ~ works fine there
[21:48] <kenan> unop: ah thank you, that did it
[21:48] <TimMatrix> 8.10?  It ain't even released yet!?
[21:49] <aman> hey how install creative cam
[21:49] <erUSUL> !rootshell | Fryguy-- Bullitje
[21:49] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: It's supposed to be released in October
[21:49] <Redian> TimMatrix: It's released in october. 8 is the year, 10 is the month
[21:49] <bloodrock> timM can get it if ya go to distrowatch.com or ubuntu development
[21:49] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: Yeah, but surely you meant 7.10?
[21:49] <bloodrock> TimMatrix,  no 8.10
[21:49] <Bullitje> k erusul
[21:49] <Redian> TimMatrix: XD sorry, didn't realize that you weren't asking a question XD
[21:50] <Bullitje> but i need to graphical move and create some directorys
[21:50] <teckan> I am currently reinstalling (for the 101010101th time) ubuntu in my desktop with tail -f syslog in the background. is the warning "warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)" for me to bother with? is it uncommon for it to show up? thnks in advance for your help.
[21:50] <Sa1> hi guys .... I installed gfxboot to put up a graphic boot menu and alter the splash screens etc... Unfortunately now one of my windows drive is not getting mounted/detected... that's the drive with a lot of data in it .. I guess I messed up with the grub-install command... Please help me in this... I can't afford to lose that data
[21:50] <geek_inn2> sa1
[21:50] <Fryguy--> Sa1: so just restore it from the backup that you should have (especially if it's data you can't afford to lose
[21:50] <Sa1> hi
[21:51] <geek_inn2> first what u want proitize like ubuntu or data....then tell me
[21:51] <Sa1> sorry mate I am new to Ubuntu and Linux... I haven't done that kinda groundwork yet
[21:51] <bastid_raZor> !mount > Sa1
[21:51] <Fryguy--> Sa1: you didn't make any backups of the data when you were in windows?
[21:51] <Sa1> nope
[21:51] <myr> my fresh hardy install takes a long time to boot, stalling on "waiting for root file system". help please?
[21:51] <Fryguy--> nice
[21:52] <bastid_raZor> Sa1; sounds like you just need to mount it. read the pm from ubottu and you will be fine.
[21:52] <geek_inn2> myr it doesnt mount the root part or it will be missing entry in brub
[21:53] <bloodrock> sal you could try getting supergrub  it's a small iso that can fix grub and windows boot loaders
[21:53] <TimMatrix> bloodrock: Okay, but I wouldn't try 8.10 as it'd be highly experimental at this stage.  Granted that it does have the stability of 8.04, but some experimental system programs or the like in this 8.10 version aren't fully tested, hence the term "development".
[21:53] <myr> geek_inn2, it boots, just slowly
[21:53] <Bullitje> root@ws-sonnie:~# cp /media/disk-1/boot /media/disk-2/boot
[21:53] <Bullitje> cp: map ‘/media/disk-1/boot’ wordt overgeslagen
[21:53] <Bullitje> whuts wrong :S
[21:54] <Fryguy--> 8.10 will be ready in october (hence the 10), if you'd like to help out with the development of it and experiment with it right now, go ahead, but don't expect it to be stable or usable at all, and don't be surprised if various aspects of it cause data loss on the system you are using it on (unlikely, but possible)
[21:54] <Sa1> bastid Razor... can u help me?
[21:55] <TimZ1m>  i cant login anymore, if i click on jabber and select any status, nothing happenssame with the icq symbol nobody answers in #kopete
[21:55] <Fryguy--> Sa1: you've already been helped, check out pm, what is the problem now
[21:55] <uberspaced> have people been complaining about crappy performance in firefox?
[21:55] <uberspaced> just updated it, man, it just sucks compared to how it used to be
[21:55] <uberspaced> are there any bells and whistles that I can shut off on the thing?
[21:56] <Bullitje> how to logout sudo ?
[21:56] <Sa1> ﻿i did fdisk -l and the mount ... it doesn't seem to work
[21:56] <Fryguy--> uberspaced: my firefox 3 runs fine
[21:56] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: just close the terminal
[21:56] <TimZ1m>  i cant login with kopete anymore, if i click on jabber and select any status, nothing happenssame with the icq symbol nobody answers in #kopete
[21:56] <Sa1> ﻿when i went into windows and tried to access the  drive it says it's not yet formatted
[21:56] <ElPando> i had a major problem with ff a while back during flash movie playback
[21:56] <Fryguy--> !repeat | TimZ1m
[21:56] <unop> Bullitje, you need -r to cp if you are copying directories
[21:56] <teckan> is it possible to install ubuntu from the command line? i would like to see more output about the installation. i am getting mad about this.
[21:56] <unop> Bullitje, cp -rv  /media/disk-1/boot /media/disk-2/boot
[21:56] <jeeves__> is anyone here good with evoulition e-mail?  I'm having issues with making rules and having it actully sort my mail for me
[21:56] <Fryguy--> teckan: the alternative installation disk provides a variety of options for doing things like that
[21:56] <unop> Bullitje, and you might need to use sudo there - depending on permissions
[21:56] <Fryguy--> jeeves__: as i pointed out before, irc.gnome.org #evolution
[21:57] <gabbler> teckan: have you tried the alternat cd?
[21:57] <teckan> gabbler, i just have the official cd sent to me by postal mail.
[21:57] <unop> teckan, the best way would be to install the base with the minimal CD - and then use apt-get to install the rest
[21:57] <Bullitje> k thanks guys
[21:57] <xeer> How can I keep the mplayer gui while turning off the visualizations to slim it down a bit
[21:57] <Bullitje> but what was that -rv needed for ?
[21:57] <jeeves__> Fryguy--, yea, I know.  I've even looked on the Gnome page, and the server name dosn't exist for IRC client connection.  Hence why I'm back here
[21:57] <starbucki> hi all, does somebody have problems with pidgin icq?
[21:57] <gabbler> teckan: why do you want to install via cli?
[21:57] <unop> Bullitje, have a look at the cp manpage.  man cp
[21:58] <Fryguy--> starbucki: there's an update out, and if you don't see it in hardy yet, check out getdeb.net for the update
[21:58] <starbucki> thx a lot!!
[21:58] <teckan> gabbler, i was wondering if it shows up anything else than a dialog and a progress bar that hangs at 94%.
[21:59] <mousey> installing unionfs via git downgrades my kernel. Can someone help?
[21:59] <gabbler> teckan: ah i see, i did have a similar problem, and it turned out to be a problem with downloading updates from the web
[21:59] <Sa1> ﻿hi guys .... Anybody strong with Grub and GFXBOOT? I installed gfxboot to put up a graphic boot menu and alter the splash screens etc... Unfortunately now one of my windows drive is not getting mounted/detected... that's the drive with a lot of data in it .. I guess I messed up with the grub-install command... Please help me in this...
[21:59] <teckan> i have never had anything so awkward. syslog does not show anything suspicious, and it is hung at 94% anyway.
[21:59] <Fryguy--> mousey: you'll have to explain a bit more how you are downgrading your kernel by installing an outside package
[21:59] <jeeves__> Fryguy--, I made the rules, and insted of it aplying it to the folder, it's only moving the SINGLE msg, and it's not auto filtering
[22:00] <Fryguy--> Sa1: you need a data recovery professional at this point, as it sounds like you hosed your drive
[22:00] <teckan> gabbler, how do I desactivate it? just unplugg the ethernet cable? isnt there a clean way of doing it.
[22:00] <gabbler> sa1: have you tried manually mounting it as grub does n't really do that,/ect/fstab does
[22:00] <teckan> (i am so bored that my mum and dad refuse themselves to use gentoo)
[22:00] <krim> I'm using mplayer-nogui version: 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu13+medibuntu1 on Ubuntu 8.04 64bit and the last two movies I've watched (.mkv x264 720p) have started lagging after a while and when looking at the process in System Monitor I see that it's using a lot of memory. Last time it happened it was using 800 megabytes, before that 1.2 gigabytes. I had to end the process and start the movie again to be able to continue watching. What could the pro
[22:00] <fernandos> I probably missed the answer to a question, is there a log of this conversation today?
[22:00] <Bullitje> and here comes another1
[22:00] <Bullitje> what is the command for deleting with sudo ?
[22:00] <teckan> rm
[22:01] <mousey> first I did: git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git then I did git pull git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ezk/unionfs.git linux-2.6
[22:01] <unop> teckan, it is possible that your installation source (CD-ROM) is corrupt
[22:01] <gabbler> teckan: depends on what the problem is, i found one way to fix it was to open a bash shell and do a constant ping during the install, to guarantee the link never went down
[22:01] <Fryguy--> krim: memory leak in that version of mplayer probably
[22:01] <branstrom> krim: use the gl mode, and read the man page... experiment with the options
[22:01] <unop> fernandos, what was the question ?
[22:01] <teckan> unop, the md5sum says it is perfect.
[22:01] <gabbler> teckan: can you not download it?
[22:01] <node357> !logs | fernandos
[22:01] <Sa1> Fryguy: is there any suggestions on the data recovery softwares?
[22:01] <krim> branstrom: I'll give it a try
[22:01] <Fryguy--> Sa1: no
[22:01] <ganjaman> I got a Problem, i tried to open http://s3.global-streaming.net:7110/listen.pls  But it doesnt work with amarok, maybe a error on the system?
[22:01] <geek_inn2> firefox error -203
[22:01] <branstrom> gl mode was the fastest one for me, anyways... I have an Nvidia card
[22:01] <bloodrock> sa1 is it just a drive with files on it or it have windows os on it as well
[22:01] <geek_inn2> installing addons
[22:01] <unop> teckan, might be the CD-ROM drive at fault then (note, i said might be)
[22:01] <Sa1> Bloodrock: its just a drive
[22:02] <Sa1> the OS partition is alright ... i am able to boot into vista
[22:02] <branstrom> Sa1: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TestingStorageMedia
[22:02] <fernandos> the question was: can I undo installations in synaptic (not selecting everything by hand)
[22:02] <Fryguy--> fernandos: no, just pick and choose what you want to uninstall and uninstall it
[22:02] <Sa1> ok
[22:02] <teckan> unop, i agree it might be, because it is very old. however, i have no other way of installing it. and neither gentoo neither windows (argh) complain about the old cdrom drive.
[22:02] <bloodrock> did you try ntfs configuration utility? to set it to auto mount
[22:02] <branstrom> Sa1: and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[22:02] <unop> fernandos, i'm afriad there is no way
[22:02] <ganjaman> 7-11 = five, the stream is a illuminati
[22:03] <fernandos> what a bummer
[22:03] <Sa1> bloodrock: i haven't done anytihng after that ... as i didnt want to mess up anything more
[22:03] <Bullitje> what is sudo command for deleting ?
[22:03] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: rm
[22:03] <unop> teckan, have a look at the !minimal CD -- install just the base system and then install the ubuntu-desktop package when done
[22:03] <Sa1> thanks branstrom
[22:03] <Bullitje> wtf
[22:03] <Bullitje> i cant delete a directory ?
[22:03] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: rmdir
[22:03] <Bullitje> aah k
[22:03] <bloodrock> sa1 another thing to try is useing a livecd
[22:04] <fernandos> or rm -R
[22:04] <Bullitje> wtf
[22:04] <unop> Bullitje, if the directory has stuff in it, you need -r again - like with cp
[22:04] <Bullitje> i cant remove the map
[22:04] <starbucki> rm -R *
[22:04] <Bullitje> it isnt empty
[22:04] <geek_inn2> installing addons i got error 203 can i know whats the problem
[22:04] <Fryguy--> Bullitje: rm -rf
[22:04] <Bullitje> aah lol k thankx
[22:04] <Sa1> yeah bloodrock ... i was thinking of that
[22:04] <geek_inn2> in firerox
[22:04] <fernandos> Bullitje, recursive
[22:04] <teckan> unop, where to download it? could i eventually put it in a usb pen? (thanks a lot for the suggestions/support)
[22:04] <Bullitje> you think ahead of my noob questions
[22:04] <Bullitje> cool
[22:04] <fernandos> lol
[22:04] <juanma> Hey guys..well my question is: i got a fresh instalation of ubuntu hardy 8.04.1..now im using firefox and most of the pages are just white..i cant see the caracters..but i can see the layout and stuff.. does any1 know what the he** is that?
[22:04] <unop> !minimal | teckan
[22:04] <naynay> Hello everyone, I had to resize my partition on my main HDD, i just took 100mb off of it, but now every time i boot, ubuntu dumps me into a recovery shell. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:04] <gabbler> sa1: have you tried to manually mount your drive using mount?
[22:05] <Sa1> how do you do that? using /mnt or something?
[22:05] <iceman_> hello
[22:05] <Fryguy--> naynay: any errors?
[22:05] <ganjaman> mount -t smbfs
[22:05] <ferchault> I installed Ubuntu using the alternate CD and chose to use cryptsetup and a LVM. /boot is /dev/sdb1, and /dev/sdb5 and /dev/sda are holding my data. After a reboot I don't even see grub. What shall I do?
[22:05] <geek_inn2> shud i reinstall firefox?
[22:05] <ganjaman> no
[22:05] <gabbler> sa1: sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/windows
[22:05] <geek_inn2> installing addons i got error 203 can i know whats the problem,in firefox?
[22:05] <ganjaman> install internet explorer
[22:05] <uberspaced> which flash plugin is recommended?
[22:06] <Fryguy--> uberspaced: adobe
[22:06] <Fryguy--> geek_inn2: what plugin
[22:06] <ganjaman> i think, recommended, nothing
[22:06] <uberspaced> Fryguy--, the flashplugin-nonfree?
[22:06] <Fryguy--> uberspaced: yes
[22:06] <Sa1> Gabbler: my OS partition is fine ... the other NTFS partition with data on it is the one which is problematic
[22:06] <unop> uberspaced, yes
[22:06] <ganjaman> adobe is crap i think
[22:06] <undadecor> Fryguy--:  it's recommend?
[22:06] <naynay> Fryguy, yeah, let me look through dmesg and i'll put them on a paste site
[22:06] <Fryguy--> ganjaman: it's the reference implementation of flash, since they are the builders of it
[22:06] <gabbler> sa1: ok well mine was only example, you need to now which dev and then mount it where you want
[22:06] <unop> ganjaman, that's speculation - also offtopic
[22:06] <uberspaced> Fryguy--, after I removed that, stuff seems to run muuuch faster
[22:06] <ganjaman> yeah they are stoned , no 64bit for flash
[22:07] <uberspaced> i dunno if it just sucks or something
[22:07] <Fryguy--> ganjaman: flash runs on 64-bit just fine
[22:07] <juanma> Hey guys..well my question is: i got a fresh instalation of ubuntu hardy 8.04.1..now im using firefox and most of the pages are just white..i cant see the caracters..but i can see the layout and stuff.. does any1 know what the he** is that?
[22:07] <uberspaced> but it was causing firefox to block or something,.
[22:07] <gabbler> geek_inn2: also try epiphany browser, very good and small
[22:07] <ganjaman> yeah, it runs, but how?
[22:07] <Sa1> Gabbler: the drive in question is sda4
[22:07] <Bullitje> hmm
[22:07] <Fryguy--> ganjaman: ndiswrapper
[22:07] <Bullitje> doesnt seem to work
[22:07] <Bullitje> sonnie@ws-sonnie:~$ cp -rv /media/disk-1/boot /media/disk-2/boot
[22:07] <Bullitje> cp: kan map ‘/media/disk-2/boot/boot’ niet aanmaken: Toegang geweigerd
[22:07] <Bullitje> sonnie@ws-sonnie:~$ cp -rv /media/disk-1/boot /media/disk-2/
[22:07] <Bullitje> ‘/media/disk-1/boot/bootinst.bat’ -> ‘/media/disk-2/boot/bootinst.bat’
[22:07] <Bullitje> cp: kan het normale bestand ‘/media/disk-2/boot/bootinst.bat’ niet aanmaken: Toegang geweigerd
[22:07] <earthmeLon> Happy Fourth of July buddies!!! I'm trying to install libapache-mod-ssl and It keeps saying "Package libapache-mod-ssl is not available, but is referred to by another package." I am unable to find any information on how to resolve this problem. Anybody have any ideas?
[22:07] <FloodBot1> Bullitje: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <unop> ganjaman, ia32libs
[22:07] <gabbler> sa1: and is it ntfs?
[22:07] <Sa1> sam@sam-laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/windows
[22:07] <Sa1> mount: mount point /mnt/windows does not exist
[22:07] <teckan> (i have got numerous lines in syslog stating: "ubuntu kernel: hdb: No disk in drive"
[22:07] <teckan> (hdb is my cdrom drive)
[22:08] <ganjaman> ia32libs, sounds like gatea20
[22:08] <Sa1> yeah it is NTFS
[22:08] <bloodrock> sa1 does the drive you are trying to get to show up in places menu??
[22:08] <marek_> jp
[22:08] <Sa1> no
[22:08] <Sa1> bloodrock: no
[22:08] <krim> branstrom: gl didn't work very well. mplayer didn't get any borders, the video was just floating on it's own and in full screen the background would flash in some places
[22:08] <phate> ciao
[22:08] <ferchault> any idea how to fix grub on secondary master?
[22:08] <gabbler> sa1: do a sudo vi /etc/fstab, do you have a reference for your drive in there
[22:08] <uberspaced> hmm.  maybe that wasn't it. it's back to sucking again.
[22:08] <bloodrock> sa1 did you look in /media
[22:08] <dashgr> hi how doi i enable java in firefox when its already installed on my system
[22:08] <Fryguy--> earthmeLon: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~brams006/selfsign_ubuntu.html
[22:08] <naynay> Fryguy--: Is there anywhere other than dmesg that would have the errors? I can't spot it in the dmesg
[22:08] <Sa1> bloodrock: yes ... it's not there
[22:09] <gabbler> dahsgr: java-plugin
[22:09] <Fryguy--> naynay: no idea
[22:09] <Sa1> what reference Gabbler?
[22:09] <dashgr> gabbler: how do add the plugin to firefox
[22:09] <fernandos> dashgr, or update-java-alternatives
[22:09] <ganjaman> i wrote java in lisp
[22:09] <unop> dashgr, install the jvm package
[22:09] <gabbler> sa1: is there a line that says /dev/sda4
[22:09] <earthmeLon> wo0t. Thanks Fryguy--. I'll just follow these instructions in stead of the other ones
[22:09] <Sa1> no it is not there
[22:09] <gabbler> dashgr: its not a firefox plugin, have you got open java or sun?
[22:10] <Sa1> infact the other windows drive which is getting mounted is also not there ... but it automounts
[22:10] <landster> sorry to ask again but can anyone help making a hardy usb install bootable, i cant see the entries mentioned in the wiki in the menu.lst "/dev/sda, rather than /dev/sdb (or /dev/sdc etc.)"
[22:10] <Fryguy--> earthmeLon: just google "ubuntu apache ssl" if you need more sites to look at
[22:10] <dashgr> gabbler: i have sun 7
[22:10] <Bullit> that kinda went wrong
[22:10] <dashgr> gabbler: open i mean
[22:10] <Fryguy--> dashgr: just install java-plugin
[22:10] <bloodrock> sa1 is it a primary pertitain or a logical partitain
[22:10] <unop> dashgr, sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[22:11] <_ZeuZ_> !fixmbr
[22:11] <dashgr> unop: it says i already ahve it
[22:11] <fernandos> undoing synaptic installs -> not just my wish ;) http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6370/
[22:11] <gabbler> dahsgr: i would install sun and the sun plugin from synaptic and uninstall open java, then firefox will reconise it
[22:11] <Fryguy--> dashgr: have you restarted firefox?
[22:11] <unop> dashgr, are you sure firefox hasn't got it loaded .. navigate to about:plugins to verify
[22:11] <dashgr> fryguy--: i have
[22:11] <Sa1> bloodrock: it's a primary partition
[22:12] <Anza> what is the best site to download amsn?
[22:12] <gabbler> sa1: here is my mount for my ntfs partition change the relevant fields
[22:12] <juice`> hello, two of my 3 disks went down at the same time, one was part of RAID1, another was just fresh disk for backup, i really doubt it is hardware issue, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/m7e7af92f <- pasted syslog logs here...
[22:12] <gabbler> sa1:
[22:12] <Fryguy--> Anza: amsn is in the ubuntu repositories
[22:12] <fernandos> gabbler, or update-java-alternatives
[22:12] <Anza> could you please give me a link?
[22:12] <fernandos> that will do it
[22:12] <dashgr> unop: it says 1.4 is enabled but my default is 1.7
[22:12] <Fryguy--> Anza: "apt-get install amsn"
[22:12] <Anza> ok
[22:12] <Sa1> bloodrock: shall i pm you my fdisk output?
[22:13] <Anza> thanks
[22:13] <bloodrock> sa1 ok so what is the partitian you are trying to mount such as /dev/sda ??
[22:13] <norman_x> hi, anybody can tell me about problems with a PNY7300GT-Graphics card with Nivida Chipset running with Ubuntu?
[22:13] <bloodrock> sure
[22:13] <Sa1> yeah Gabbler tell me
[22:13] <Fryguy--> norman_x: ask a question
[22:13] <unop> dashgr, how do you know it is 1.7 ?
[22:13] <Sa1> bloodrock: /dev/sda4
[22:13] <gabbler> sa1:/dev/sda4 /xp ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[22:13] <dashgr> unop: java -version
[22:13] <dashgr> unop: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[22:13] <norman_x> Fryguy--:  hm, I thought I had asked one?
[22:13] <dashgr> unop: oops
[22:14] <Fryguy--> norman_x: ask a question that is answerable
[22:14] <blockhd> hi.... another problem
[22:14] <Sa1> gabbler you want me to add this to my fstab?
[22:14] <dashgr> unop: java version "1.7.0"
[22:14] <the_eraser> hi does metacity support translucent borders?
[22:14] <blockhd> i installed some gstreamer plugins, so i could paly mp3 and so
[22:14] <Guilo> hi all
[22:14] <blockhd> but now, after restart, sound card isnt working
[22:14] <Guilo> i've got a problem with wine
[22:14] <geek_inn2> i tried to install adblock and others too
[22:14] <gabbler> sa1: you can or you can use the mount command with -t ntfs and the relevant option
[22:14] <geek_inn2> but it fails
[22:14] <blockhd> it says i dont have right G streamer plugin or dont have soundcard configured
[22:14] <gabbler> sa1: if you add it to fstab then mount -a
[22:14] <Guilo> ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] + wine 1.0 + wow = pink screen with just the sound of the game
[22:14] <fernandos> norman_x, there should be a hardware database somewhere
[22:15] <PDF_q> hi I just took a hard drive from one computer and put it inside another one and I can connect to the internet with this new one, it's most likely an error connecting to the ethernet cards mac address, how do I get the system t re-read and recreate the networking folders?
[22:15] <Sa1> gabbler my operating system is vista
[22:15] <fernandos> with supported hardware and problems etc
[22:15] <gabbler> blokhd: have you tried installing the restricted-ubuntu
[22:15] <blockhd> yes
[22:15] <Sa1> shall i go ahead and add this line which you gave to fstab?
[22:15] <blockhd> maybe this is the problem?
[22:15] <blockhd> :S
[22:15] <blockhd> it just stopped working, before restart everything was fine
[22:15] <gabbler> sa1: it doesn't matter, /xp is the mount point not the type of os, just make a dir (mkdir /vista) and then put it in the fstab
[22:16] <blockhd> no volume control gstreamer plugins and or device found
[22:16] <blockhd> thats the error when i try to open volume control
[22:16] <FAJALOU> currently i am trying to get an Airlink AWLL6070 to run on my computer, but i have tried ndiswrapper to no avail.  Will it work straight ou of the box?  or do i have to uninstall my old pci card first?
[22:16] <Sa1> ok
[22:17] <Bullit> ow to change the rights of a map
[22:17] <unop> dashgr, i think the version number listed for the browser plugin is different to the java version -- even i seem to have this discrepancy -- in any case, if you have the browser plugin loaded, java ought to work in your browser
[22:17] <norman_x> I have a Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam. Under Gutsy it is difficult, to install the driver, I know about. Is there anywhere a "just-install-and-use-it" driver for that webcam?
[22:17] <unop> Bullit, you forgot sudo
[22:17] <Bullit> is it even possible to change the ownership/rights of a map ?
[22:17] <Bullit> no , i mean without sudo
[22:17] <Bullit> cause im getting sick of it
[22:17] <dashgr> unop, it says its enabled but i can't see anything in java, only flash
[22:18] <Bullit> i cant use my graphical explorere
[22:18] <Bullit> only terminal
[22:18] <WebcamWonder> Bullit: gksu nautilus
[22:18] <gabbler> bullit: are you using gnome because dolphin is an alternative explorer
[22:18] <unop> Bullit, that's the way it should be, you don't want to change permissions on these files
[22:18] <dashgr> unop, i'm using iced tea 1.7, should i switch to sun
[22:19] <Bullit> uhm unop yes i do
[22:19] <unop> dashgr, ahh, yea, that could be the problem
[22:19] <Bullit> its a 2end hard disk
[22:19] <Bullit> wich is empty
[22:19] <dashgr> unop, how do i make the switch
[22:19] <Bullit> but now it is filled with a few useless files wich i had to put there with sudo
[22:19] <Bullit> and now i have to watch them with sudo ...
[22:19] <c0mrade> hiya all .. how can I install courier-authdaemon .. I get this error msg "E: Couldn't find package courier-authdaemon"
[22:19] <unop> Bullit, yes, i understand that, but you are copying system files across, these files require that you have the right permissions on them
[22:19] <dashgr> unop, i saw that there was a way to check my java installations and then switch by typing in a number
[22:19] <WebcamWonder> Bullit: To start a GUI explorer with sudo permissions, press Alt+F2 and type in gksu nautilus
[22:20] <unop> dashgr, someone mentioned using update-alternatives
[22:20] <gabbler> c0mrade: sudo apt-cache search courier
[22:20] <WebcamWonder> Bullit: This will allow you to do all that is necessary with all permissions
[22:20] <Bullit> hmm , i dont trust you webcamwonder
[22:20] <gabbler> c0mrade: and then sudo apt-get install <the package>
[22:20] <unop> WebcamWonder, not a good suggestion that - even though it addresses his problems
[22:21] <FAJALOU> how can i figure out what my wireless card's chipset is?
[22:21] <dashgr> unop, ok i made the switch just now, i'll test it
[22:21] <gabbler> bullit: can i ask what is the problem?
[22:21] <Bullit> i need sudo to acces useless files
[22:21] <WebcamWonder> unop: Yes, but temporary solution, not recommending it everyday for him :S
[22:21] <naynay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25081/    Does anyone know how to fix that? Sorry for vague questions but im not really certain whats wrong.
[22:21] <juanma> Hello guys..well i have a question: i got a fresh instalation of ubuntu hardy 8.04.1..now im using firefox and most of the pages are just white..i cant see the caracters.they r all white...but i can see the layout and stuff.. does any1 know whats that?
[22:21] <c0mrade> gabbler: I can't find the package which I need to install ..
[22:21] <Bullit> i need sudo for that whole hd actualy
[22:21] <gabbler> c0mrade: did you do a search, what did it come back with?
[22:21] <unop> Bullit, when dealing with system files -- just use sudo -- you really should start getting used to using sudo
[22:21] <geek_inn2> sheesh bye
[22:21] <zeeqy> hi guys, i m wondering if I can connect or login to my asterisk box via ubuntu command window
[22:21] <gabbler> bullit: you could enable the su
[22:22] <dashgr> unop, still can't run java after restarting firefox
[22:22] <unop> gabbler, err no, don't suggest that
[22:22] <Bullit> but it realy are useless files , and i need to edit alot in them
[22:22] <unop> Bullit, sudo -i # to invoke a root shell
[22:22] <dashgr> unop, my java version isn't in my about:plugins
[22:22] <gabbler> unop: did you go for sun or are you still using iced tea
[22:22] <bloodrock> juanma, did you try changing the font
[22:23] <unop> dashgr, was it there when you were using iced tea?
[22:23] <unop> gabbler, i'm not the one with the java issue - dashgr is
[22:23] <Bullit> unop , i still dont got the acces to graphical change stuff
[22:23] <c0mrade> gabbler: here is result of my package search
[22:23] <__yy> is there a way to determine which device is mounted at a particular directory?
[22:23] <c0mrade> http://paste2.org/p/45107
[22:23] <gabbler> unop, dahsgr: sorry typo :)
[22:23] <unop> __yy, mount
[22:23] <dashgr> gabbler, i switcht to sun just now, and np
[22:24] <gabbler> dashgr: cool :)
[22:24] <zeeqy> hi, can i access my asterisk box from ubunyu command???..plz respond
[22:24] <juanma> bloodrock: changing the font..changing the color..del the mozilla folder..
[22:24] <dashgr> unop, th eonly plugin for my FF is Java(TM) Plug-in Blackdown-1.4.2-02 for java
[22:24] <unop> Bullit, it's not a good idea doing this, be very careful --  ALT+F2  and type in  gksu  nautilus
[22:24] <c0mrade> can I install something from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/mail/courier-authdaemon to make it work ..
[22:24] <gabbler> c0mrade: is that for courier mail server?
[22:25] <c0mrade> yes
[22:25] <plik> zeeqy: I access asterisk all the time with ssh from terminal
[22:25] <bloodrock> juanma, how about uninstalling firefox and reinstalling it
[22:25] <unop> dashgr, and still no java in firefox?
[22:25] <zeeqy> jPlik: just ssh and ip?
[22:25] <juanma> bloodrock: already done dat 2
[22:25] <plik> ssh user@ip
[22:26] <bloodrock> juanma, how bout changing screen resolution
[22:26] <Xavura> Can anyone help me with the GEdit snippet plug-in :S
[22:26] <c0mrade> gabbler: any suggestions ?
[22:26] <unop> dashgr, does this site report java available?  www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[22:26] <zeeqy> thanks Plik...!!
[22:26] <gabbler> c0mrade: im looking :)
[22:26] <Bullit> omfg
[22:26] <Bullit> although im pretty sure linux is secure
[22:27] <c0mrade> sorry m8 for being unpatient.. standing by :)
[22:27] <Bullit> its a pain in the ass to change stuff concerning editing rights
[22:27] <Xavura> not as secure as Internet Explorer 6
[22:27] <Xavura> lolol
[22:27] <juanma> bloodrock: screen resolution? i dont think has something to do with this problem..:S
[22:27] <yuri____> hello, i just installed solr + jetty and jetty is running. how do i access solr?
[22:27] <julio_neto> ah sim
[22:27] <Calum> Hi folks: does anyone know any magic tricks for making either a Realtek 8139 ethernet card or a Belkin rt61 based wireless card work with a default 8.04 install (only thing I've done is clobbered ipv6, uselessness that it is)
[22:27] <gabbler> c0mrade: i personally use dovecote you dont fancy that instead, i can give you a step by step install :)
[22:27] <Xavura> Does anyone know if there is a channel for help with GEdit?
[22:27] <unop> Bullit, no, it just takes getting used to
[22:28] <poningru> Xavura: whats wrong?
[22:28] <Xavura> poningru: I'm trying to make a custom snippet but I can't get it working
[22:28] <Xavura> poningru: with the code snippet plug-in thingy
[22:28] <poningru> ah... yeah no clue sorry
[22:28] <poningru> try gimp net
[22:28] <Xavura> :(
[22:28] <Xavura> hmm?
[22:28] <poningru> hold on
[22:28] <c0mrade> hmm I'm kinda following tutorial which requires .. courier but tnx anyways I'll come up with something
[22:29] <zeeqy> Plik:..no luck bro...my ip asterisk box is 192.168.0.15 I did ssh root@192.168.0.15 but it doesnt ask me for any password...!!!
[22:29] <gabbler> c0mrade: why do you need the authdaemon, coz in the ubuntu docs they dont use it
[22:29] <poningru> Xavura: IRC: #gedit on irc.gnome.org.
[22:29] <bloodrock> juanma, k when you adjusted fonts and/or color did you exit ff
[22:29] <Decepticon> what package in ubuntu should i get to overcome compile error: configure: error: Could not find libperl. Try --disable-perl
[22:29] <PDF_q> is there a way to reconfigure my mac address for my ethernet card without reinstalling linux?
[22:29] <Kalisto> can someone take a look at this wpa_supplicant debug output?: http://rafb.net/p/IOr6te95.html   my laptop connects fine to non encrypted networks but not to my wpa-psk network.
[22:30] <Xavura> poningru: Thanks!
[22:30] <c0mrade> gabbler: I'll tell you in private query tutorial which I'm using .. so if it can be done without courier great then :)
[22:30] <Kalisto> PDF_q, google "macchanger"
[22:30] <unop> Decepticon, what is the name of the package youa re trying to build here?
[22:30] <Decepticon> unop znc
[22:30] <gabbler> c0mrade: ok fire away
[22:30] <dashgr> unop, nope
[22:30] <juanma> bloodrock: sure..somehow the layout of the sites are just ok...but the caracters..the fonts and stuff..they are not white..i mean they r like hidden...
[22:30] <Bullit> unop how to use gsuk nautilus to aplly the rights for 1 map to all sublaying maps ?
[22:31] <PDF_q> any other way?
[22:31] <unop> Decadent, sudo apt-get build-dep znc  # and then go on to do ./configure, make, etc
[22:31] <juanma> bloodrock: and either selectin' with da mouse..i can see it..or read it..
[22:31] <blockhd> hello..... any idea, why my soundcard just stopped working=?
[22:31] <PDF_q> I cant get on the internet with my linux and I have no way to pass information to it (cd drive doesnt work)
[22:31] <zeeqy> Plik:..no luck bro...my ip asterisk box is 192.168.0.15 I did ssh root@192.168.0.15 but it doesnt ask me for any password...!!!
[22:31] <unop> Bullit, can i first ask you - are you makign a backup of your /boot partition ??
[22:31] <bloodrock> juanma,  you try changing the theme your useing
[22:31] <afallenhope> is there an easier way of manually setting my dns server?
[22:31] <p> hi .. I installed some update to firefox-2 (which I'm still using), and now none of my extensions work. they're installed, they just don't do anything.
[22:31] <p> any ideas how I can debug this?
[22:32] <unop> afallenhope, edit /etc/resolv.conf
[22:32] <afallenhope> I tried doing it from the Network but it keeps bringing back the old DNS server (it's down)
[22:32] <juanma> bloodrock: yeah..some1 told me to do it..but useless..
[22:32] <Fryguy--> p: tools | addons menu, do what you need to from there
[22:32] <Kalisto> PDF_q, i think you can change your mac with ifconfig. google it
[22:32] <Bullit> unop, no im copying a backtrack3 slax version from usb to a hardrive
[22:32] <Fryguy--> p: this is a better question for #firefox though
[22:32] <bloodrock> juanma, k how bout the background color
[22:32] <unop> afallenhope, well, if your machine gets it's ip address from a DHCP server (your router, e.g.)  -- then this entry will get overwritten the next time
[22:33] <juice`> hello, two of my 3 disks went down at the same time, one was part of RAID1, another was just fresh disk for backup, i really doubt it is hardware issue, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/m7e7af92f <- pasted syslog logs here...
[22:33] <Bullit> unop, i got full permision on the original files on usb , but no permisions when the files are on the HD ?
[22:33] <unop> afallenhope, the best thing to do is configure the DHCP server
[22:33] <juanma> bloodrock: dat 2. :S everything changed..but the caracters are still missing..even changing its color
[22:34] <p> Fryguy--: the addons menu says they are installed and enabled, but I'll ask in #firefox; thanks
[22:34] <blockhd> could be because of kernel update?
[22:34] <blockhd> help! :)
[22:34] <bloodrock> juanma, did you reboot after update and after reinstalling ff
[22:34] <unop> Bullit, see, this is how it is..  system files require very specific permissions on them or else you break security and also stop things from working -- stop trying to change these permissions, just copy them over with sudo and all will be good :)
[22:34] <juanma> bloodrock: nope..
[22:35] <Bullit> but unop , this harddisk is only temporarily in this pc and it is a slax version , not my own ubuntu version.
[22:35] <Fryguy--> Bullit: so?
[22:35] <Bullit> why do i need all this security then ?
[22:35] <unop> Bullit, that is not the issue, if you change the permissions - your slax thing will suffer - do you really want that? i don't think so
[22:35] <Bullit> will it suffer ?
[22:35] <Fryguy--> Bullit: i don't think you understand.  changing permissions of random system files will break things
[22:35] <bloodrock> juanma, might give that a try then i am out of suggestions
[22:35] <Bullit> ooh didnt know that ?
[22:35] <unop> Bullit, because slax requires the security or right permissions
[22:36] <Fryguy--> Bullit: we've told you this, several times already
[22:36] <Bullit> didnt know then permissions transfer with the files , i thought they transfer with OS
[22:36] <earthmeLon> I added another virtualhost to my /etc/apache/sites-available/ and now whenever I go to my webserver to a .php file, it tries to download the .php instead of run it. ANy suggestion?
[22:36] <ne2k__> Bullit: they are a property of the filesystem, actually
[22:36] <p> by the way, is the firefox-3 random seizure bug fixed?
[22:36] <Fryguy--> Bullit: on linux filesystems it transfers with filesystem
[22:36] <Bullit> ooh
[22:36] <Bullit> hmm kj
[22:36] <Bullit> can see if i can fix the damage ive done
[22:37] <Fryguy--> earthmeLon: make sure mime-types are set up correctly, and that you have php installed
[22:37] <juanma> bloodrock: Ok mate..thaks for the help...
[22:37] <poningru> p: huh?
[22:37] <Bullit> but then the question remains , why do i have full acces when the files are on my usb, but not when they are on my HD
[22:37] <Fryguy--> Bullit: what is it _exactly_ that you are trying to do?  whatever it is it sounds like you are doing it in the hardest way possible
[22:37] <bloodrock> juanma, when you took out ff did you do a complete removal
[22:37] <earthmeLon> Fryguy--, It was working before I followed the instructions you showed me
[22:38] <juanma> bloodrock: dats kinda strange..i mean i just installed the 8.4.1...codecs and apps...i tryed to install some fonts..and nothing else..
[22:38] <albundy> is anyone having problems with Gmail Drive? I've been erroring out...
[22:38] <juanma> bloodrock: also deleted the fonts...cuz i though this was the problem..but was wrong
[22:38] <bloodrock> juanma, oh oh you installed some fonts??
[22:38] <Fryguy--> albundy: we need a specific error message to be of any help do you
[22:38] <p> poningru: the firefox 3 fsync bug
[22:38] <unop> Bullit, what filesystem on the USB disk? FAT ?
[22:38] <Bullit> fryguy, im copying backtrack 3 (a slax mod) from a usb to a boot HD for a new pc on this old linux pc
[22:38] <juanma> bloodrock: there are 2 tahoma fonts and 4 verdana fonts on /usr/share/fonts
[22:39] <Bullit> unop , yes probably
[22:39] <Fryguy--> Bullit: why not just install it the normal way?
[22:39] <bloodrock> juanma, k you might try doing a complete removal of ff from the synmatic package manager
[22:39] <Bullit> isnt working
[22:39] <Fryguy--> Bullit: you are now going to have to do grub and stuff manually, and that's not going to be fun
[22:39] <p> I think it is fixed, actually
[22:39] <Bullit> tried that
[22:39] <Bullit> backtrack 3 doesnt have a installer btw
[22:39] <juanma> yeah..trying this
[22:40] <unop> Bullit, does backtrack3 have a source package?
[22:40] <Bullit> jup
[22:40] <Fryguy--> unop: backtrack is a linux distribution
[22:40] <Leefmc> Man smplayer has a lot of bugs in the interface.
[22:40] <Bullit> but that realy is over my head,,,,
[22:40] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: such as?
[22:40] <bloodrock> juanma, so you delete all but 1 of each font?
[22:40] <unop> Fryguy--, ahh, didn't know that
[22:40] <earthmeLon> Fryguy-- Do i need to tell php that there are new virtualhosts somehow or somethign? >_<
[22:40] <Fryguy--> bloodrock: don't do that
[22:40] <albundy> Fryguy, I think Google blocked the app
[22:40] <Fryguy--> juanma: don't delete the fonts, they are separate for bold, italic, and such)
[22:41] <Fryguy--> albundy: no error message = we can't help you
[22:41] <Fryguy--> earthmeLon: no
[22:41] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: The interface for key configs is sh-t heh. I can't seem to make a single button, consistently, do what it is supposed to do.
[22:41] <Fryguy--> earthmeLon: #apache
[22:41] <bloodrock> fryguy wasn't telling him to do it was asking if he did
[22:41] <juanma> Fryguy: yeah dats it...
[22:41] <blockhd> anyone else with audio not working?
[22:41] <earthmeLon> ty <3
[22:41] <blockhd> please :(
[22:41] <gabbler> bullit: you only have to do two command in grub, setup and root
[22:41] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: i haven't run into any issues
[22:41] <juanma> bloodrock: well..im gonna complete remove..install ..and reboot
[22:41] <Bullit> gabbler , it isnt like that ,,,
[22:41] <Fryguy--> juanma: why are you rebooting
[22:41] <Bullit> i mean ubuntu install from cd is easy
[22:42] <woody86> Good Mornin' #ubuntu!
[22:42] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: My space bar says pause only, yet it acts as pause and play. Period is a skip one frame, yet it constantly is acting as pause and play, though if you use it for our five times then it starts acting as a frame skip.
[22:42] <Bullit> backtrack doesnt even have a installer
[22:42] <albundy> Gmail Drive - Error : An error occurred: Login Failed.
[22:42] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: both of those buttons work fine for me
[22:42] <Bullit> biggest problem is that i have to install backtrack without internet
[22:42] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: The Pause button acts as a pause, and a skip frame (though this may be intended), etc.
[22:42] <albundy> System Error Message: Cookie Error - Unable to fetch Gmail Service cookies
[22:42] <juanma> Fryguy: dunno..the other guy said something about reboot..:s
[22:42] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: there are plenty of other video players available for linux if yo udon't like that one
[22:43] <bloodrock> juanma, prob don't need to reboot if you do a complete removal
[22:43] <Bullit> but guys, i think i go test this stuff
[22:43] <Bullit> ill be back in 10 min i hope
[22:43] <Onis18> hola alguine que hable español que me asista
[22:43] <Fryguy--> juanma: linux systems pretty much never need to be rebooted (only kernel updates and things tied directly to kernel)
[22:43] <juanma> ok..gonna try..now instaling
[22:43] <Bullit> im presuming it works now
[22:43] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Blech, imma try and fix this crap because i was told that mplayer is by far the best.. heh
[22:43] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: it is
[22:43] <kholerabbi> is there a torrent for ubuntu?
[22:43] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Thats what worries me ;P
[22:43] <Fryguy--> kholerabbi: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+8.04+torrent&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[22:43] <gabbler> leefmc: have you tried vlc?
[22:43] <woody86> Does anyone know how to mark myself as AFK, or away? I'm using Pidgin if that makes a differene.
[22:44] <Onis18> hola alguine que hable español que me asista
[22:44] <Fryguy--> kholerabbi: first link looks pretty helpful
[22:44] <nerdygirl> is there a linux for dummies?!? i need some help with simple tasks
[22:44] <xim> ubuntu
[22:44] <xim> is linux for dummies
[22:44] <the_herby> :D
[22:44] <Onis18> hola
[22:44] <Onis18> alguine que hable español
[22:44] <joaopinto> nerdygirl, have you checked help.ubuntu.com ?
[22:44] <Hornet> hello all ... having a rather interesting issue with the alternate installer.  It won't recognise my keyboard as soon as I start the installer proper, it works in bios & the initial menu, but but not when it starts.  It's a usb keyboard, and using a usb->ps2 adaptor results in no keyboard found at all
[22:44] <joaopinto> !es | Onis18
[22:44] <nerdygirl> ok, then how do i update my network drivers?!?
[22:44] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: ask questions if you want.  If you are comfortable with simple tasks, and have problems finding solutions to them, there are always other operating systems available to use if you prefer those more
[22:45] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: why do they need to be updated
[22:45] <the_herby> nerdygirl, whats wrong with your network drivers??
[22:45] <Leefmc> gabbler: I've hated vlc for a long time. I tested it and found it to be trash in windows and linux heh. Dont get me wrong, it plays everything under the sun, but its not a solid program. Its always felt a bit sluggish, as if it was playing a video, but didn't have tight control over the video.
[22:45] <kholerabbi> is the torrent any liklier to fail?
[22:45] <randrews> Join #eeemania for general discussion and tweaks for the eee pc
[22:45] <juanma> bloodrock: Nice move mate..thanks for the great help..working fine now!
[22:45] <the_herby> kholerabbi, what do you mean?
[22:45] <Fryguy--> kholerabbi: fail?
[22:45] <bloodrock> juanma,  cool
[22:45] <albundy> Guess Gmail Drive no worky...any alternatives?
[22:46] <connor> I just installed windows xp on a second hard drive, how can I get grub back? On my first hard drive I have vista and ubuntu
[22:46] <juanma> bloodrock: God! what a crazy bug :S
[22:46] <xim> anyone know why vmware would continually make me re-run the config script?
[22:46] <nerdygirl> they never installed when i installed ubuntu
[22:46] <kholerabbi> Fryguy--:  I just mean - I would get the torrent, except I don't want to risk errors.. low download limit.
[22:46] <mordof> looking for a way to stream media files to the internet -> but on ubuntu server, no gui. does anyone know of a good way to do this?
[22:46] <Fryguy--> connor: googling "ubuntu recover grub" yields tons of results and howtos for getting grub nworking again
[22:46] <connor> Thanks
[22:46] <Fryguy--> kholerabbi: the torrent is the exact same content as the main download
[22:46] <juanma> bloodrock: Maybe its something about the ubufox...cuz i installed everything again..but not the ubufox package
[22:46] <gabbler> leefmc: ah,i see it does play everything but is is pretty slow have you heard of miro?
[22:46] <Hornet> having a rather interesting issue with the alternate installer.  It won't recognise my keyboard as soon as I start the installer proper, it works in bios & the initial menu, but but not when it starts.  It's a usb keyboard, and using a usb->ps2 adaptor results in no keyboard found at all .. anyone have any ideas?
[22:46] <nerdygirl> its the intel wireless/pro 9345abg card for my laptop
[22:47] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: those work out of the box with no updates necessary
[22:47] <kholerabbi> Fryguy--: yeah right. thanks
[22:47] <Leefmc> gabbler: No
[22:47] <Hornet> I don't have access to a PS2 keyboard, short of asking someone to post me one :\
[22:47] <bloodrock> juanma,  could be
[22:47] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: it's 3945 btw
[22:47] <gabbler> leefmc:getmiro.com
[22:47] <Leefmc> gabbler: As far as mplayer goes, im playing an ogg right now, and i played a mov a bit ago, and it was very spot on. It seems to be well built, but its key config is horrid heh
[22:47] <juanma> well..thks guys!
[22:47] <__yy> Hornet: network install?
[22:47] <bloodrock> juanma, i've stayed away from putting any of the addons for ff in
[22:47] <gabbler> leefmc: i know what you mean the config file is a nightmare
[22:48] <nerdygirl> oh 3945 abg ya.. its asking me to "make =SHEELL /bash/bin" but when i do i get this error
[22:48] <juanma> bloodrock: still the same bloody error! :S
[22:48] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: what?
[22:48] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: what are you doing
[22:48] <Leefmc> gabbler: Well its just not.. good. I can sit here and tap the period key every half second or so, and within a few seconds i can see atleast 3 separate functions come from that single key.
[22:48] <Hornet> __yy, I've only got wifi :\
[22:49] <nickrud> Fryguy--, looks like postfix notation
[22:49] <TimZ1m> i have a problem:i deleted the part of the top panel where the running programms are displayed, now i often get an error(can not connect to klauncher) when i open an application wich is normaly displayed there, a small icon opens(about 5*10px) wich works like the icon thats missing in the panel und wenn ich ein programm öffne, dass da angezeigt würde(z.B. kopete) kommt ein kleines fenster(~5*10px) some apps like network-manager and upda
[22:49] <TimZ1m> ter are completely missing
[22:49] <nerdygirl> trying to update the mac80211 install
[22:49] <gabbler> leefmc: wmp :)
[22:49] <Leefmc> gabbler: And the key config shows only the period bound. so.. i dunno.
[22:49] <node357> nerdygirl I think you want SHELL=/bin/bash
[22:49] <Leefmc> gabbler: wmp?
[22:49] <Bullitje> kj
[22:49] <Bullitje> change of plans
[22:49] <Bullitje> how to make a usb-stick bootalbe ?
[22:49] <gabbler> leefmc: windows media player ;)
[22:49] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: why
[22:49] <Leefmc> gabbler: haha, why are you bringing that into the convo
[22:49] <fructose> TimZ1m: Isn't there an kubuntu channel?
[22:49] <bloodrock> juanma, its doing it again or did ou instal what you said you didn't??
[22:50] <juanma> bloodrock: doing it again
[22:50] <TimZ1m> im using ubuntu
[22:50] <TimZ1m> gnome
[22:50] <gabbler> leefmc: sorry couldn't resist, peronally i don't use mplayer, i use vlxc and totem and the ffmpeg here and ther for conversion the mplayer config and codec stuff has always put me off
[22:50] <nerdygirl> the nic drivers won't load, let me link the install readme
[22:50] <patrik> is anyone here using Ubuntu on a Mac laptop of some sort?
[22:51] <bloodrock> juanma, prob take out all addons you put in
[22:51] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: the drivers come with a base install of ubuntu, theya re already loaded and running
[22:51] <bloodrock> juanma, then add one at a time to test each
[22:51] <patrik> I heard there was some way to control the light on backside of the cover on the Mac laptops. Can anyone confirm that?
[22:51] <fructose> TimZ1m: OK, thought maybe not because of all the KDE apps you use (kopete, klauncher)
[22:51] <nerdygirl> but i have no connect and no networks are found
[22:51] <Leefmc> gabbler: It seriously annoys me though, because the actual video playback seems solid. It has a tight wrap around this video, very well controlled. But the interface.. jeez its acting as if im pushing random buttons while drunk.
[22:51] <gabbler> leefmc: btw do you know if mplayer plays hd windows files yet?
[22:51] <juanma> bloodrock: i dont have any addons..
[22:51] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:52] <Leefmc> gabbler: No idea
[22:52] <gabbler> leefmc: :)
[22:52] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: does it show up in iwconfig?
[22:52] <juanma> bloodrock: i dont know..could be over-heatin?
[22:52] <amon-kill> hola
[22:52] <bloodrock> juanma,  oh is it just 1 site or all sites?
[22:52] <amon-kill> alguien q spa español
[22:52] <gabbler> leefmc: maybe you should GET drunk and then it wont seem so bad or you simply wont care
[22:52] <Martinzz> Hola!!
[22:52] <amon-kill> hoa
[22:52] <nerdygirl> no wireless extensions for eth0, lo, wmaster0
[22:52] <hiptobecubic> is there a way to run my webcam through some kind of filter ? I use it for webchat etc but i'd like it to be black and white because it handles color poorly
[22:52] <amon-kill> hola
[22:52] <Leefmc> gabbler: I'm still trying to get a decent H264 output. So far the best i've come up with is turning a 10mb 1440x900 OGG into a 50MB 720xsomething H264.
[22:52] <Martinzz> desde Iowa
[22:53] <juanma> bloodrock: almost al sites
[22:53] <Leefmc> gabbler: So obviously, there is something to be desired there. hah
[22:53] <hiptobecubic> maybe a program that does it?
[22:53] <Martinzz> q chistoso
[22:53] <amon-kill> jajjaja
[22:53] <juanma> bloodrock: and opera is workin fine
[22:53] <amon-kill> avias entrado antes aqui
[22:53] <amon-kill> ??
[22:53] <mordof> anyone know if Gnump3d requires codecs to be on the machine that's hosting it?
[22:53] <gabbler> leefmc: is that with mplayer natively via some output or with ffmeg?
[22:53] <Martinzz> si
[22:53] <Martinzz> un monton y tu?
[22:53] <amon-kill> io no
[22:53] <BCS-Satori_> I have a question in regards to the swap partition.  I have a macbook pro, that I am going to triple boot and have not put ubuntu on a laptop before.  My question is do I need to make the swap file as large as my system memory?  I have 4GB of memory on my machine.
[22:53] <amon-kill> cuantos años tienes
[22:53] <BCS-Satori_> so that my machine can hibernate
[22:53] <amon-kill> ??
[22:54] <Martinzz> ah ya mira como funciona
[22:54] <amon-kill> dime
[22:54] <juanma> largate cojjone! jajaja hablas en inglés!
[22:54] <Fryguy--> BCS-Satori_: you need to if you want hibernate to work correctly, otherwise no
[22:54] <gabbler> bsc-satori_:i wouldn't there is no need, 1-2 gb should be fine
[22:54] <Fryguy--> gabbler: not true
[22:54] <bloodrock> juanma, but when you move your mouse over area then you see the text
[22:54] <amon-kill> dime como funciona
[22:54] <Martinzz> Hello, anybody knows about a driver  to my network card?
[22:54] <Fryguy--> Martinzz: ask a more detailed question please
[22:54] <Leefmc> gabbler: Thats actually from Blender. As i haven't had luck compiling FFMPEG with H264 (well, x264). It seems Linux is great, but if you venture into the wrong area you are put into a old maze cavern with only a map and a matchstick to find your way out.
[22:55] <amon-kill> martinzz
[22:55] <juanma> bloodrock: no..thats woot i cant understand...i cant see any caracter
[22:55] <BCS-Satori_> Fryguy--: and should in linux its 1000x1000 not 1024x1024 for size right? so i would make an 4000MB swap not 4096MB
[22:55] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: yes that is true with ubuntu.  if you get outside of the package management system and start trying to do things on your own that happens
[22:55] <gabbler> fryguy--,bcs-satori_:i dunno but i have two gigs of memory and have a two gig swap and the most i have seen used is a couple hundred mb
[22:55] <Martinzz> how can I see what is my network card?
[22:55] <amon-kill> no se ingles
[22:55] <Fryguy--> BCS-Satori_: no
[22:55] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Heh, wish the package management system would keep up then ;P
[22:55] <Martinzz> solo preguntas
[22:55] <Martinzz> y te responden
[22:55] <amon-kill> q pregunto
[22:55] <amon-kill> ??
[22:56] <hiptobecubic> !es
[22:56] <bloodrock> juanma, anything happen when you click on refresh button
[22:56] <amon-kill> jajaja
[22:56] <nerdygirl> this is the driver i'm trying to install:http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=2259&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%21
[22:56] <Fryguy--> gabbler: you need swap equal to memory size if you want hibernate to work correctly, which is what he was askin gabout
[22:56] <Martinzz> lo que necesites saber
[22:56] <juanma> pues buske la ayuda del ubuntu en castellano se no lo sabes...
[22:56] <amon-kill> i cuanto años tienes
[22:56] <Martinzz> usas linux?
[22:56] <Nikilos> Network Manager doesn't show me any options for wireless connections anymore. I am on an Inspiron 1525, and this started happening after the recent updates I installed. Could someone help me fix this problem?
[22:56] <Martinzz> 22
[22:56] <amon-kill> si
[22:56] <amon-kill> uso linux
[22:56] <BCS-Satori_> Fryguy--: so I need to make a 4096MB swap then if I have 4GB memory?
[22:56] <amon-kill> pero estoi recien
[22:56] <joaopinto> spanish people, please join #ubuntu-es !!!
[22:56] <amon-kill> soi novato
[22:56] <mangosteen> hey im trying to install flash player plugin but in the two ways i try it dont work, anyone can help?
[22:56] <FloodBot1> amon-kill: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:56] <gabbler> fryguy--: but surely thats active memory not total
[22:56] <juanma> bloodrock: it refresh...but stay on the same bloody error
[22:56] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: it's the philosophy of ubuntu and other debian based systems to not do that.  There are other distributions with other package management systems available that stay more up to date on a regular basis
[22:56] <amon-kill> i quiero experimentar
[22:56] <nerdygirl> the readme states to install mac80211 first.. ?!?
[22:56] <Fryguy--> BCS-Satori_: right
[22:56] <amon-kill> sabes ocupar linux
[22:56] <Martinzz> si yo solo en mi server y ahora se fue a quien sabe dios
[22:56] <Martinzz> a la mierda
[22:57] <gordonjcp> is apt-cache search a bit broken for anyone else?
[22:57] <Fryguy--> BCS-Satori_: at least, you should probably have a bit over that to account for normal things that go into swap
[22:57] <bloodrock> juanma, it shows you a error message?
[22:57] <Martinzz> asi q tuve q instalarlo de nuevo
[22:57] <gabbler> leefmc: too true, i had to use ffmpeg a while back and ubunut repsoitory didn't cut the mustard and it was hell to compile all the options in
[22:57] <Oli``> Martinzz juanma amon-kill: this is an english support channel - take this to #ubuntu-es
[22:57] <Fryguy--> gabbler: for hibernation to work correctly you need a swap the size of your system memory
[22:57] <gordonjcp> it seems to be matching a really overly-broad range of things
[22:57] <Martinzz> y el internet no funca
[22:57] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: I know, im just replying to your comment, of basically, "if you leave the package management system, your hosed" heh
[22:57] <joaopinto> !ops Spanish chat disturbing the channel
[22:57] <amon-kill> aaaaaaaaa
[22:57] <mangosteen> how to install flash player plugin on firefox?
[22:57] <juanma> bloodrock: nope...
[22:57] <amon-kill> tines msn
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <FloodBot1> randrews: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <randrews> join #eeemania
[22:57] <Oli``> !ops
[22:57] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: if you know, then you know about the differences between various package management systems and how to make an informed decision about which one to join, so why make the comment
[22:57] <usuario__> Martinzz, hola, que tal? este canal eres en ingles
[22:58] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Its like Ubuntu is saying "Dont go out there or you'll be screwed! .. but then again, we can't help you here :)" heh
[22:58] <juanma> Oli``:guess im talking in english..:P
[22:58] <patrik> BCS-Satori_, what is the problem with the swap partition?
[22:58] <bloodrock> juanma, did you install any of the flash pluggins
[22:58] <Warp4> hi all, does anyone know if there will be a desktop version of 8.10 available?
[22:58] <Martinzz> Anybody knows how to fix the internet is not working
[22:58] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Well i have yet to hear of one from educated people that has what i need, etcetc
[22:58] <Fryguy--> Warp4: yes, in october
[22:58] <Martinzz> so I cant even update
[22:58] <Warp4> Martinzz: what kind of problem are you having?
[22:58] <joaopinto> Warp4, yes, as for all versions
[22:58] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: archlinux and gentoo should have what you need
[22:58] <Oli``> Martinzz: you need to describe your hardware
[22:59] <juanma> bloodrock: yep the flashplugin-nonfree
[22:59] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Ie, ffmpeg with the required features. So im left with compiling my own :/
[22:59] <Warp4> Fryguy--: thanks :)   just didnt see the alpha 1 version available in a desktop release, just server
[22:59] <amon-kill> oie
[22:59] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: or just compile stuff yourself and manage it yourself, it's not that difficult
[22:59] <amon-kill> martinzz
[22:59] <Oli``> Martinzz: make and model, etc. then somebody can help
[22:59] <mangosteen> when i try to install, in the flash player directory it installs the terminal says but when i open firefox no addon is install
[22:59] <amon-kill> sabes usar tor
[22:59] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Yup :), just gatta find my way out of the maze first ;)
[22:59] <nerdygirl> ok, how do i set shell to bash?!?
[22:59] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: it's bash by default
[22:59] <a_> join #legia
[22:59] <hiptobecubic> nerdygirl, it's default
[23:00] <joaopinto> mangosteen, please install the flash from the repositories, install the nonfree package
[23:00] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: nothing was just asking when on a laptop how big swap needs to be to hibernate, fryguy helped me out
[23:00] <amon-kill> hello
[23:00] <nerdygirl> then why do i get this warning: &shell not set to bash when i try to make the mac80211?
[23:00] <gordonjcp> hiptobecubic: isn't it dash by default?
[23:00] <Fryguy--> gordonjcp: no
[23:00] <gordonjcp> Fryguy--: hm
[23:00] <gordonjcp> Fryguy--: sure about that?
[23:00] <Warp4> amon-kill: if you speak in english, perhaps we can help you :)
[23:00] <hiptobecubic> gordonjcp, i'm pretty sure it's bash
[23:00] <bloodrock> juanma, in the preferences for ff you you check the content setup options
[23:00] <patrik> BCS-Satori_, ok, missed that :)
[23:00] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: export SHELL=/bin/bash before using make then
[23:00] <Fryguy--> gordonjcp: yes
[23:00] <gordonjcp> hrm, mine seems to be dash
[23:00] <Nikilos> Does anyone know how to make a restricted driver's status not "Not in use"?
[23:00] <nickrud> nerdygirl,   env | sort | less   , do that in a terminal. You'll see some interesting things, along with your shell
[23:00] <nerdygirl> ok
[23:00] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Im confused though, i understand why ffmpeg doesn't have h264, but i dont understand why it doesn't have x264 or .. ogg, both of which are open and free, right?
[23:00] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: no worries thanks
[23:01] <Fryguy--> yes
[23:01] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: ogg especially
[23:01] <Fryguy--> and both of those are available
[23:01] <Warp4> nerdygirl: if its available, you should also be able to use chsh IIRC
[23:01] <juanma> bloodrock: K..wtas next?
[23:01] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: we use x264 with ffmpeg at work, works fine
[23:01] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: If compiled, yes, im talking default
[23:01] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Ie, the one you grab from the repos
[23:01] <patrik> BCS-Satori_:  what kind of Mac do you have you said, MacBook Pro?
[23:01] <juanma> bloodrock: desactivate java?
[23:01] <mangosteen> jaopinto, i tried with synaptics to but it complains about dpkg ?
[23:01] <bloodrock> juanma,  is load images auto checked
[23:02] <juanma> bloodrock: its checked
[23:02] <naknomik> ﻿I want to store values in an array, echo -e "abcd\nefgh" | while  read line ; do echo "$n = $line"; variable[$n]=$line;  n=`expr $n + 1`; done but this doesn't seem to work. What's wrong?
[23:02] <Bora> anyone understands what this is: fehler beim lesen des datentragers meustart mit strg+alt+entf
[23:02] <bloodrock> juanma, all 4 lil boxes should have a check in them
[23:02] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: yep Penryn edition the newest
[23:02] <nerdygirl> when i ran env|sort thing it does say shell=/bin/bash - then whats going on with that error?
[23:02] <mangosteen> japointo, resporitories is synaptics or?
[23:02] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: ok, cool
[23:02] <joaopinto> Bora, this is not a translation channel, please try babelfish for that, or similar
[23:02] <Fryguy--> naknomik: this isn't a bash scripting channel
[23:03] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I just bought a MacBook yesterday (ordinary)
[23:03] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: just do what i said
[23:03] <MeRodent> Bora, it means failure when reading the media - restart ctrl alt del
[23:03] <gabbler> gordonjcp: so is mine :)
[23:03] <amon-kill> i am don't speak english
[23:03] <hiptobecubic> !es | amon-kill
[23:03] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I heard that it was supposed to be possible to control the Aple light on the backside of the screen, have you heard anything about this?
[23:03] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: very nice you will enjoy it greatly, i had it quad booting yesterday, xp, vista, osx, ubuntu, but decided I didn't need xp and vista, just wanted to try it hehe
[23:03] <amon-kill> i'm speak espanish
[23:03] <woody86> is anyone on here pretty good with programming?
[23:04] <amon-kill> thanks
[23:04] <Fryguy--> woody86: i'm a professional woftware engineer
[23:04] <amon-kill> es q soi nuevo en linux
[23:04] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: hehe, extreme. I'm happy with dual booting ;-)
[23:04] <hiptobecubic> amon-kill, no problemo
[23:04] <gabbler> woody86: waht language?
[23:04] <amon-kill> i no se casi nada de linux
[23:04] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: have you put ubuntu on it yet?
[23:04] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: of course :)
[23:04] <Oli``> !ops | amon-kill
[23:04] <woody86> Fryguy gabbler - I have a code I need to make into a gnome panel applet
[23:04] <Warp4> amon-kill: try #ubuntu-es
[23:04] <juanma> bloodrock: hey mate...somehow i solve this!
[23:04] <bloodrock> juanma, i take it all 4 boxes were checked
[23:04] <mangosteen> jaopito: when i launch the synaptics it now complains that i must manually run dpkg -- configure -a what does that mean i have to do, i tried comand but what do i configure?
[23:05] <MeRodent> amon-kill, /join #ubuntu-es
[23:05] <Rhorse> amon-kill, que su question?
[23:05] <Fryguy--> woody86: so go ahead and do that.  DBus etc are all well documented by gnome, and there's plenty of examples around.  irc.gnome.org #gnome should be helpful as well
[23:05] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: did you put the grub loader on /dev/sda# or did you do it to (hda0,3) like the guide states?
[23:05] <nerdygirl> fryguy: when i export SHELL=/bin/bash before make it gives me the same error that shell not set to bash?!?
[23:05] <Bora> ok, anyone knows what is the cause for a hard drive that the bios outputs that error? failure when reading the media - restart ctrl alt del............ why it's not bootable anymore
[23:05] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:05] <DigitalSith> anyone use anything other than ubuntu, just curious
[23:05] <joaopinto> mangosteen, open a terminal and run: sudo dpkg -- configure -a
[23:05] <juanma> bloodrock: i went there..uncheck and checked again..also i went to advanced options of fonts..and try some different font...and back to sans..
[23:05] <juanma> bloodrock: finally working..thatks mate!
[23:05] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I think it wrote to sda, but rEFIt fixed that for me
[23:06] <joaopinto> DigitalSith, this is a support channel, for off topic, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:06] <nickrud> Oli``, you don't need to be so quick with the ops tag ...
[23:06] <Fryguy--> Bora: you need to have grub correctly installed
[23:06] <bloodrock> juanma,  cool beans
[23:06] <woody86> Fryguy - well I have absoloutly NO programming experience, a guy on the forum helped me come up with the code, lol
[23:06] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: so you wrote it to the partition that ext3 / was on
[23:06] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: when you boot up you can choose rEFIt control (or something similar). That will just fix it for you
[23:06] <Oli``> nickrud: he's been talking in spanish (almost non stop) for 10 minutes with plenty of warnings
[23:06] <Fryguy--> Bora: http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry708.html
[23:06] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: hoesntly Iäm not sure, I didn't pay too much attention, I just played around
[23:06] <woody86> Fryguy--: but #gnome would be a better place to get info?
[23:06] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: i have refit on the machine
[23:06] <Bora> Fryguy: ok the link....
[23:06] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: me too
[23:06] <Fryguy--> woody86: well now is the time to learn.  Like I said, there is plenty of documentation around for adding to gnome-panel, get reading.
[23:07] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: here we go installing once again hehe
[23:07] <joaopinto> nickrud, I agree with Oli`` , that person was already instructed to join the spanish channel, several times
[23:07] <xeer> How can I keep the mplayer gui while turning off the visualizations to slim it down a bit
[23:07] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: (I might disappear, batter running low)
[23:07] <nickrud> Oli``, I stopped going back when I saw a gap, I see much more now
[23:07] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: Why?
[23:07] <woody86> Fryguy--: ok thx, I'll google ;)
[23:07] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: doing the x64 verison this time,
[23:07] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: to triple boot rather then quad
[23:07] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: aha, ok (that's what I have)
[23:08] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I heard that it was supposed to be possible to control the Aple light on the backside of the screen, have you heard anything about this?
[23:08] <nickrud> Oli``, looks like you scared him straight anyway ;_
[23:08] <td123> does anyone know of any ati cards supporting opengl 2.1?
[23:08] <corrupt> who makes flawless notebooks that cater to the full capabilities of the ubuntu os?
[23:08] <nerdygirl> think i found the error - makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.24-generic/source/' script failed?!?
[23:08] <Fryguy--> corrupt: dells with intel wifi cards work fine
[23:08] <nerdygirl> so is my make file not setup or something?!/
[23:09] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: did you do ./configure first
[23:09] <corrupt> thanks fryguy.
[23:09] <nerdygirl> umm, no
[23:09] <Oli``> corrupt: flawless?! there isn't such a thing  - even for windows. they either weigh too much, dont have enough battery, have a stupid keyboard, poor trackpad, etc,etc,etc
[23:09] <Warp4> ok i have what i think to be a legit question :)  i have in my charge 6 servers that have  16GB of RAM and dual quad-core Xeon processors.  I am thinking that the 64 bit version of Ubuntu (or even Debian for that matter) with the BIGMEM kernel would yield better performance on these machines.  One, am I correct in this assumption and two, is 64-bit Linux ready for "prime time" production use...
[23:09] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: havent messed with it yet, but i dont see anything talking about it working or not working on the site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro but granted thats the pro  one
[23:09] <Warp4> ...these days?
[23:09] <MeRodent> I still think ubotto's language faqs should explain how to join another channel considering most people that don't know where to go also don't know how to get ther.
[23:09] <Fryguy--> Warp4: yes
[23:09] <Nikilos> My wireless completely died after recent updates on Hardy :(
[23:09] <mangosteen> jaopinto: oki done, when i start synaptics it says i have 1 broken package on the system..how i correct that?
[23:10] <corrupt> Oli``, well then a notebook that generally gets good reviews...
[23:10] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I browsed google for it for quite long, but didn't find anything. Perhaps I dreamt about it or something...
[23:10] <Fryguy--> Nikilos: so reinstall your wireless drivers, you probably got a new kernel
[23:10] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook under Brightness
[23:10] <nerdygirl> ./configure?
[23:10] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: that is for the LCD I believe
[23:10] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: yes
[23:10] <Nikilos> Fryguy--: Sorry, but how do I do that?
[23:11] <Fryguy--> what wireless card do you have
[23:11] <nerdygirl> intel pro/wireless 3945 abg
[23:11] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: I'm talking about the apple-shaped light on the cover
[23:11] <Fryguy--> Nikilos: (btw i'm going to just type this into google an dcopy paste results, so maybe you want to save my time)
[23:11] <Nikilos> Fryguy--: Alright, I'll go google around, thanks
[23:11] <Oli``> corrupt: there's an ongoing thread (from 2004 - still updated regularly): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275249&page=13
[23:12] <solexious> [Q] Hello, im not sure if my graphics card is set up correctly *ati* as frets on fire shakes alot
[23:12] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: ahh, not sure, mines on now, but granted im on the live cd.  i'm pretty sure that the light is control by the system bios though not os
[23:12] <MatBoy> are there people using JWM as their desktop manager ?
[23:12] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: could be wrong
[23:12] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: ok
[23:12] <corrupt> thanks Oli``.
[23:12] <HairyDude> http://www.nexusuk.org/photos/sucs/beachparty/2008/06/07/ gives an xml parse error in firefox 3, but I don't see what's wrong with it
[23:12] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: did it light up when you had the live cd in?
[23:13] <mangosteen> jaopinto:the boken filter is where?
[23:13] <Fryguy--> HairyDude: looks fine on my firefox
[23:13] <mangosteen> i must fix it before install right flash player i find but not in filter if i choose broken
[23:14] <patrik> BCS-Satori_: it is lighting, but I want to control it - have it blinking when I get mail or something :)
[23:14] <gavi> photoshop is to gimp as premiere is to ?????????? anyonme
[23:14] <nerdygirl> kernel Makefile not found?!? how do i run configure to get that set before running make?
[23:14] <BCS-Satori_> patrik: ah very cool idea not sure but that would be very neat
[23:14] <td123> premiere is for videos right?
[23:14] <Oli``> gavi: avidemux? cinerrella?
[23:14] <gavi> td123, yes
[23:14] <purplestar> I recorded a 20 mins home movie that I want to put on DVD. How can I create a DVD menu and put my mpeg movie on DVD?
[23:14] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: you are in way over your head with that driver btw.  You have pretty much 0 chance of getting it installed
[23:14] <gavi> Oli``, which is better?
[23:14] <mangosteen> i try to install it anyway then
[23:15] <bloodrock> nerdygirl, type ./configure
[23:15] <Oli``> gavi: depends what you want to do - have a play
[23:15] <MatBoy> guys, I can recommend JWM :)
[23:15] <Fryguy--> bloodrock: it needs kernel headers
[23:15] <nerdygirl> ./configure does nothing no such file or directory
[23:15] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: why not just google "ubuntu 3945" and solve the problem that way, instead of trying to manually compile kernel drivers
[23:15] <gavi> Oli``,   which would u say is easier to get a hang of?
[23:15] <bloodrock> fryguy oh
[23:16] <Oli``> gavi: there are a LOT more apps you'll want to experiment with - those are just the two I use for the tasks I need to do. Avidemux is simple as hell but it's also limited to postprocessing-tasks. cenerella is fugly and complicated but it's powerful (like premiere). there are some apps in the middle but I have no use of them so haven't tested any
[23:17] <Oli``> gavi: I mean Cinelerra http://cinelerra.org/
[23:17] <gavi> Oli``, good explination.. i prob want the fugly one but not in this point in time... right now i want to start off with simple youtube video edits
[23:17] <purplestar> I recorded a 20 mins home movie that I want to put on DVD. How can I create a DVD menu and put my mpeg movie on DVD?
[23:18] <Fryguy--> purplestar: brasero might do what you need
[23:18] <Oli``> purplestar: todisc
[23:18] <joaopinto> purplestar, you can try mandvd
[23:18] <joaopinto> Fryguy--, brasero supports dvd creation with menus ?
[23:18] <Fryguy--> joaopinto: no idea
[23:18] <Oli``> mandvd is good too
[23:18] <gavi> is avidemux good for this
[23:18] <purplestar> which one helps me create a DVD menu, music in background and then create DVD?
[23:18] <joaopinto> Fryguy--, dvd authoring and dvd burning are different functions, brasero as far as I know is a burning tool ;)
[23:19] <Fryguy--> joaopinto: like i said i have no idea
[23:19] <joaopinto> purplestar, I believe mandvd allows that
[23:19] <Fryguy--> joaopinto: i said "might do what you need"
[23:19] <gavi> im gona try it
[23:19] <Oli``> purplestar: take a look at mandvd
[23:19] <gavi> thanks Oli``
[23:19] <joaopinto> Fryguy--, no prob, you have an idea now :P
[23:19] <Fryguy--> joaopinto: i use nero lol
[23:19] <purplestar> E: Couldn't find package mandvd
[23:19] <purplestar> !mandvd
[23:20] <joaopinto> purplestar, unfortunately mandvd is not available on the repositories yet, get it from getdeb
[23:20] <Oli``> purplestar: http://www.getdeb.net/app/ManDVD
[23:20] <purplestar> apt-get install mandvd = E: Couldn't find package mandvd
[23:20] <purplestar> ok
[23:20] <purplestar> thanks
[23:20] <purplestar> is mandvd safe to install?
[23:20] <joaopinto> yes it is
[23:20] <ShinjinAkage> How do I find out what device name to use in the mount command?
[23:20] <Oli``> yes, with no warranties from me =)
[23:20] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: what do you want to mount
[23:20] <purplestar> is  http://www.getdeb.net a trustworthy website?
[23:20] <Oli``> purplestar: yes
[23:21] <joaopinto> with as much guarantees from me as you would get from the source
[23:21] <Fryguy--> purplestar: sort of
[23:21] <ShinjinAkage> Fryguy--: An internal Hard drive.
[23:21] <joaopinto> purplestar, that particular package was built by me...
[23:21] <purplestar> Fryguy--: why do you say sort of?
[23:21] <Rhorse> ShinjinAkage, type ls -rt /dev for list of devices
[23:21] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: it'll be /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc, /dev/sdd, etc, depending on how many hard drives you have in the machine and which one ubuntu is installed on
[23:21] <joaopinto> purplestar, because in general is is not safe to install .debs from random sites
[23:21] <purplestar> joaopinto: you built the deb package from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881 ?
[23:22] <Fryguy--> purplestar: it's not the official ubuntu repositories, so it's not supported by ubuntu, and you'll occasionally run into issues because of this
[23:22] <Rhorse> the most recently detected are at the bottom of the list
[23:22] <joaopinto> everything that comes out of the repositories is not as safe as from them
[23:22] <joaopinto> purplestar, yes I did
[23:22] <purplestar> Fryguy--: but will installing that DEB comprimise my ubuntu security? Because I use ubuntu for netbanking etc
[23:22] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: and then you'll have to specify the right partition for the drive that you find, use cfdisk or fdisk to find these
[23:22] <Fryguy--> purplestar: yes
[23:22] <purplestar> joaopinto: I use Ubuntu for netbanking, credit card account etc, is it safe to install that?
[23:23] <joaopinto> purplestar, if you have the same reason for trust me, as you would truste on the source, unless you are a programmer and usually check the code before compiling :)
[23:23] <purplestar> joaopinto: maybe you built that package to hack my ubuntu? How can I be certain its safe?
[23:23] <Fryguy--> purplestar: you can't
[23:23] <purplestar> does anyone here know joaopinto ?  Is he a regular member of Ubuntu community?
[23:23] <joaopinto> purplestar, maybe all the ubuntu devs owned your system .. please give me a break
[23:23] <Oli``> purplestar: you can't but the same *could* be said for things already installed on your computer. you haven't checked every line of code, have you?
[23:24] <purplestar> can anyone here vouch for joaopinto and his credibility?
[23:24] <Fryguy--> purplestar: if you have concernes about security, don't install packages from sources other than the ubuntu repository.  pretty simple
[23:24] <purplestar> Oli``: do you know joaopinto and is http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881 safe webpage?
[23:24] <Oli``> purplestar: in fairness, I gave you a link there too. it's a common resource for Ubuntu users
[23:24] <purplestar> Fryguy--: yes thats why Im asking about http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881
[23:24] <joaopinto> purplestar, forget it.. keep with the repositories please.. you already got enough information
[23:25] <purplestar> joaopinto: yeah I will keep with the Ubuntu, because I do not know you, nor can I trust someone I dont know. thanks anyway
[23:25] <purplestar> does anyone know a DVD authoring package from Ubuntu repos?
[23:25] <Fryguy--> purplestar: check out mandvd
[23:25] <nickrud> joaopinto, well at least you've convinced him about security :)
[23:25] <purplestar> Fryguy--: :P
[23:25] <tonpa> is there one way to create a email server with postfix and cirus, i am novice and i would like learn but i am looking for one how to easy
[23:25] <Oli``> purplestar: back to the beginning: todisc
[23:25] <purplestar> Fryguy--: have you installed it from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881?
[23:25] <Fryguy--> purplestar: i don't use ubuntu
[23:26] <Vinchenzo28> is their any IDE's for Ubuntu that support ASP?
[23:26] <purplestar> Oli``: E: Couldn't find package todisc
[23:26] <Fryguy--> Vinchenzo28: vim, emacs
[23:26] <Vinchenzo28> vim > emacs?
[23:26] <Stormx2> !info todisc | purplestar
[23:26] <tonpa> hay alguna manera de crear un servidor de correos usando postfix y cyrsus desde que son nuevo en esto un how to que me pudieran recomendar
[23:26] <Fryguy--> Vinchenzo28: in my opinion, yes
[23:26] <purplestar> Fryguy--: youre in ubuntu but you dont use ubuntu :P interesting :P
[23:26] <arooni> whats the name of the default .zip handler program?
[23:26] <Fryguy--> purplestar: right
[23:26] <Stormx2> arooni: file-roller
[23:26] <Vinchenzo28> Fryguy--:  thanks
[23:26] <joaopinto> purplestar, do you know any of the people that is helping your here ? :)
[23:26] <SliMM> hello
[23:26] <purplestar> !todisc
[23:26] <per> exit
[23:26] <nickrud> Vinchenzo28, eclipse has asp plugins
[23:26] <Oli``> purplestar: dude, drop the getdeb stuff. we all use getdeb but if you can't trust it, or us, don't use it
[23:27] <per> how do i exit from irssi?
[23:27] <matelot> ﻿Hi in 8.04 How to add "Run Application" to Menu ?
[23:27] <Fryguy--> per: /quit
[23:27] <SliMM> how do I set up the rsa key for ssh on the host?
[23:27] <joaopinto> per, maybe /exit or /quit
[23:27] <per> thx
[23:27] <purplestar> joaopinto: i only know Seveas and a few other regulars. I dont know anyone talking ruight now. why?
[23:27] <matelot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88695
[23:27] <Fryguy--> SliMM: ssh-keygen
[23:27] <ShinjinAkage> shinjin@shinjin-desktop:/media$ sudo  mount /dev/sdb /media
[23:27] <ShinjinAkage> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[23:27] <ShinjinAkage> Can anyone help with that. It's a 8.4 GB internal Hard Drive I want to use for backing up. Only one partition.
[23:27] <Oli``> purplestar: the package is todiscgui
[23:27] <nickrud> matelot, right click the menu bar, and select edit: it's in there somewhere
[23:27] <SliMM> Fryguy--: on the server?
[23:27] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: cfdisk /dev/sdb and find the partition you want to mount, and then mount that
[23:27] <purplestar> joaopinto: I wish I knew you better, because mandvd looks like what I want
[23:27] <joaopinto> purplestar, forget it... sometimes is better to quit it :)
[23:28] <Fryguy--> SliMM: client
[23:28] <Vinchenzo28> nickrud: really?
[23:28] <Vinchenzo28> nickrud: ill have to check it out asp plugins? right?
[23:28] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you generate a keypair, private stays with you, public goes on the server you are authenticating to
[23:28] <purplestar> joaopinto: I never quit.  In the words of Winston Churchill "never ever ever ever ever give up"
[23:28] <nickrud> Vinchenzo28, don't know the quality, but it's there. eclipse asp as a google search pulls up several
[23:28] <purplestar> joaopinto: you may be a quiter, but I am not
[23:28] <Vinchenzo28> nickrud: ok thanks
[23:28] <SliMM> Fryguy--: my ssh daemon says this: "Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key"
[23:28] <purplestar> joaopinto: I know and trust nickrud too
[23:29] <matelot> nickrud it seems it was removed in hardy
[23:29] <joaopinto> purplestar, google.com "joao luis marques pinto"
[23:29] <purplestar> nickrud: Hello, May I please ask you to verify for me if mandvd is safe for me to install from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881 ?
[23:29] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you need to generate keys for the server itself for fingerprinting purposes
[23:29] <Fryguy--> SliMM: it's done as part of the package install for openssh, so i dunno what you are doing
[23:29] <purplestar> joaopinto: do yuou know nickrud ?
[23:29] <Rhorse> ShinjinAkage, what you prolly want is -t vfat
[23:29] <joaopinto> SliMM, Please read http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/ , if you are looking for passwordless ssh logins
[23:29] <Rhorse> so sudo mount -t vfat etc...
[23:30] <Fryguy--> Rhorse: he's specifying a drive, not a partition
[23:30] <elementz> what are the correct permissions for /tmp? what would that be in chmod syntax? anybody?
[23:30] <Fryguy--> elementz: 5777 i think
[23:30] <nerdygirl> umm.. what folder at the linux headers for unbuto defalt to?
[23:30] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: /usr/src
[23:30] <aro> I can't seem to get sound in Firefox to work, particularly Flash content. Ubuntu 8.04 with Logitech USB Headset.
[23:30] <purplestar> joaopinto: do you know nickrud ?  If so, can you ask nickrud to verify you and mandvd from that website?  if nickrud says its ok, I trust him
[23:30] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: they aren't installed by default so you'll have to go find them and install them yourself
[23:30] <jack-desktop> why doesn't vlc close after i exit, it stays in my process list
[23:31] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: keep in mind that doing this you are probably going to break your install and make it unbootable
[23:31] <Rhorse> oh, ok
[23:31] <the_herby> jack-desktop, do you mean vino?
[23:31] <elementz> Fryguy--, thx
[23:31] <ntoskrnl> who has Acer Aspire 5920G guys?
[23:31] <jack-desktop> the_herby: vlc, the media player.
[23:31] <SliMM> Fryguy--: ok, I think it was because I didn't sudo, but after I generated the public/private key on the client and after I copied the public key on the server and configured the daemon (properly I hope), there is still no difference, I am prompted for my password
[23:31] <nerdygirl> hmm.. break the install or not be able to access the net?!?
[23:31] <HairyDude> They say that there are at least 15 ways to lose a pair of levitation boots.
[23:31] <Fryguy--> SliMM: did you put the key in authorized_keys?
[23:32] <SliMM> I did
[23:32] <purplestar> joaopinto: i conclude then you do not know nickrud
[23:32] <SliMM> Fryguy--: I used a rsa key
[23:32] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you'll have to use -vvv to see what is going on during the key exchange then
[23:32] <SliMM> Fryguy--: client or server?
[23:32] <rsbax> has YouTube / Adobe changed the video format recently? cause totem, vlc and mplayer refuse to play the movies properly
[23:32] <joaopinto> purplestar, since you are so concerned with security, only do netbanking using a LiveCD, that way you are 99% your system is not compromised..
[23:32] <Fryguy--> nerdygirl: break the install
[23:32] <Fryguy--> SliMM: ssh -vvv user@host
[23:33] <__yy> How do I set up my wireless card to autoconnect to a specific network on boot?
[23:33] <ntoskrnl> rsbax: re-encode the video you download using FFmpeg. or WinFF.
[23:33] <purplestar> joaopinto: I feel comfortable doing Netbanking with Ubuntu installed on my HDD and only use the Ubuntu repos
[23:33] <j-ninja0> hey whats a good win emulator besides wine
[23:33] <j-ninja0> ?
[23:33] <IndyGunFreak> j-ninja0: well, do you want to pay for it?
[23:33] <rsbax> ntoskrnl: ffmpeg will be capable of reading the *.flv properly?
[23:33] <Fryguy--> j-ninja0: wine isn't an emulator. if you are looking for virtualization, check out virtualbox of vmware
[23:34] <purplestar> joaopinto: but I wont install anything outside of Ubuntu repos unless they can be verified by Seveas or nickrud or a well known regular here
[23:34] <j-ninja0> why do you think im using linux. i dont pay for software
[23:34] <Oli``> j-ninja0: Wine is not an emulator =)
[23:34] <Overand> Is there a way to use LTSP, but have a 'thin' installation on a system that can't/shouldn't boot from the network?
[23:34] <IndyGunFreak> j-ninja0: then that shows you know little about linux goals...
[23:34] <td123> j-ninja0: wine != emulator
[23:34] <Oli``> purplestar: please drop this.
[23:34] <IndyGunFreak> j-ninja0: but there's some other free options, i imagine you'll find them
[23:34] <Martinzz> Hello, I really need to get my internet working what can I do?
[23:34] <purplestar> joaopinto: dont take it personally, its not personal, i dont know you
[23:34] <purplestar> Oli``: are you an OP?
[23:34] <Oli``> purplestar: no but you're taking this too far. you can't trust getdeb. don't use it
[23:34] <joaopinto> j-ninja0, and WINE is not a pure emulator. its more like a wndows reimplementation
[23:34] <IndyGunFreak> purplestar: what are you trying to install?
[23:34] <td123> lol, purplestar playing tough guy
[23:35] <purplestar> j-ninja0: thats the way to go :)
[23:35] <william> are there any ace archive extractors?
[23:35] <ntoskrnl> rsbax: yes.
[23:35] <purplestar> IndyGunFreak: ahh hello :) I know you too and trust you
[23:35] <nickrud> purplestar, I personally use nearly nothing outside the repos
[23:35] <j-ninja0> lol ok im not going to argue i need something to make my Halo game think its running on windows (Emulator) lol
[23:35] <purplestar> IndyGunFreak: mandvd from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881.  safe?
[23:35] <td123> william: did you check synaptic?
[23:35] <SliMM> Fryguy--: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25087/
[23:35] <IndyGunFreak> purplestar: never heard of it but i'm w/ nickrud i don't use really anything outside the repos.
[23:36] <purplestar> nickrud: I have never installed anything outside of repos. But i want a good DVD authoring program.  joaopinto recommendd mandvd from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881.  But I am not sure its safe
[23:36] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you pasted the key wrong
[23:36] <IndyGunFreak> purplestar: there are tools for creating dvd's in the repos i imagine
[23:36] <purplestar> IndyGunFreak: me either, thanks for looking
[23:36] <nickrud> purplestar, getdeb has a long reputation
[23:36] <td123> purplestar: just use something that's in the repos
[23:36] <purplestar> nickrud: so you think mandvd from http://www.getdeb.net/release/2881 would be rather safe?
[23:37] <Fryguy--> SliMM: the format of authorized keys is "key comment"  one per line
[23:37] <td123> purplestar: just try it
[23:37] <william> td123, i did a search for ace and 2 zillion things showed up.  i have already got anything that looked plausable aka 7-zip and any archive manager looking thing
[23:37] <j-ninja0> im just wanting an oppinion of a good one not a "need to know what" (eg. is cedega any good?)
[23:37] <SliMM> Fryguy--: in authorized_keys?
[23:37] <Oli``> It's a good thing I'm not an op >:D
[23:37] <Fryguy--> SliMM: looks like you are using puttygen, and copied the wrong thing
[23:37] <SliMM> Fryguy--: that refferes to my private key
[23:37] <nickrud> purplestar, I"ve never heard anything that says getdeb is an unreliable source. And I would if it was suspected
[23:37] <purplestar> td123: whats the best DVD authoring program in repos that help me create a DVD menu, background musc, background picture and inport my personal mpeg?  Is "todiscgui" the best one?
[23:37] <kosnick> my ubuntu crashed and so far i can not find a solution to recover it. If i install a new over the old one what will happen to the apps i already have installed? I have separate partitions for os and /home . What if i install a newer version (i had 7.04 and want to change it to 8.04)
[23:37] <SliMM> Fryguy--: line 8
[23:37] <Fryguy--> SliMM: when you use puttygen there is a box that says "copy this for openssh"
[23:37] <purplestar> nickrud: ok thanks
[23:37] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you copied the key wrong
[23:37] <SliMM> no, ssh-keygen
[23:38] <j-ninja0> cedega, any good?
[23:38] <IndyGunFreak> purplestar: ive used getdeb in the past w/o issue.. i imagien you'll be ok w/ that program.. but thats just my thinkin
[23:38] <SliMM> I'll just do it again
[23:38] <td123> purplestar: I don't know any packages that do that, mainly since I've never needed them. Just try whatever you think works and you'll learn
[23:38] <purplestar> IndyGunFreak: yeah, but I will do what you initally suggested, just stick with the ubuntu repos. thats the safest option. thanks
[23:38] <IndyGunFreak> ya
[23:38] <Rhorse> purplestar, how about dvdauthor?
[23:38] <acp_> !recovery
[23:39] <purplestar> td123: im trying todiscgui now
[23:39] <Fryguy--> kosnick: you'll lose all of your applications, but most of your settings will be restored
[23:39] <nickrud> purplestar, or, if you're feeling frisky, try compiling it yourself from the sources
[23:39] <Pici> purplestar: or devede
[23:39] <kosnick> Fryguy : thanks
[23:39] <joaopinto> DeVeDe may also do what you want, not sure
[23:39] <IndyGunFreak> devede, thats the one i was trying to rememnber
[23:39] <purplestar> Rhorse: wanted something with more options than dvdauthor. im trying todiscgui now
[23:40] <purplestar> nickrud: but how do I know the source code is reliable? I cannot understand source code.  So its the same thing. dont know if I can trust anything from outside the repos
[23:40] <Fryguy--> purplestar: so then don't
[23:40] <Oli``> purplestar: how can you trust anything in the repos?
[23:40] <purplestar> Pici: ok ill look at devede too
[23:40] <Fryguy--> purplestar: and just use the repos
[23:40] <purplestar> Fryguy--: im not going to. im tryung todiscgui now
[23:40] <nickrud> purplestar, gotta trust somewhere. The original source is what the repos start with. So, if you get the source from the original site, you're as safe as you can get
[23:40] <Fryguy--> purplestar: you are beating a dead horse at this point. you've been given numerous suggestions to your problem
[23:41] <sakura13> nabend
[23:41] <SliMM> Fryguy--: so, after I used ssh-keygen I have two files ~/.ssh and a fingerprint on the screen
[23:41] <SliMM> Fryguy--: what should I do next?
[23:41] <purplestar> ok thanks everyone. I have decided to only use ubuntu repos. And i just installed todiscgui and will try that. thanks everyone for your help
[23:41] <sakura13> hmm versteh was nicht bei ubuntu wo ist denn bittte openssh
[23:41] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you should have id_rsa and id_rsa.pub
[23:41] <Rhorse> purplestar, DVDStyler, DeVeDe, ManDVD, and tovidgui are others that I think are still actively developed.
[23:41] <joaopinto> ufff
[23:41] <SliMM> Fryguy--: I do
[23:42] <SeaPhor> i am building a new server to replace an existing server, any way to import the users, policies, and server settings, or will i need to set all up manually
[23:42] <Fryguy--> SliMM: so copy id_rsa.pub over to your server, and then "cat id_rsa.pub > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[23:42] <purplestar> Rhorse: im going to try todiscgui, devede.
[23:42] <kosnick> as i said already my ubuntu crashed . i think it has to do with vars.sh . Someone proposed that i should reistall initscripts with " sudo aptitude reinstall initscripts" but when i do this i get some error with /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.0 . Any explanations about it?
[23:42] <insomninja> what is the difference between /dev/random and /dev/urandom?
[23:42] <Rhorse> purplestar, OK -- Also KDE has some tools if you're ok with that dte.
[23:42] <Fryguy--> insomninja: urandom will continue to generate psuedorandom data when it runs out of entropy, random will block
[23:43] <X-m> hey
[23:43] <purplestar> Rhorse: : Couldn't find package dvdstyler
[23:43] <purplestar> Rhorse: im using Gnome, how do I use KDE?
[23:43] <Fryguy--> purplestar: just install KDE apps, and it'll just work
[23:43] <william> purplestar, have you tried "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[23:44] <purplestar> Fryguy--: which KDE apps? :P
[23:44] <magribe> Hi. I've recorded a sequence with audacity it worked perfectly but then if I try to record a second sequence while the first one is playing at the same time after a while the sound lags. What can I do?
[23:44] <SliMM> Fryguy--: then?
[23:44] <obf213> hey, i remember on the old distros there was a much more comprehesive preferred application application, for example u could choose how .doc files were opend etc. where is that? the preferred applications now has like 3 choices
[23:44] <purplestar> william: no, what does that do?
[23:44] <Fryguy--> SliMM: connect to server and it'll use the key
[23:44] <Oli``> purplestar: please don't run that
[23:44] <william> purplestar, that install kde :)
[23:44] <purplestar> what does sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" do?
[23:44] <insomninja> Fryguy--, thanks, so random is to be preferred in an encryption context I suppose?
[23:44] <joaopinto> purplestar, I need to say this.. dvdstyler is available from getdeb :D
[23:44] <purplestar> joaopinto: hehe :)
[23:44] <Fryguy--> insomninja: yes
[23:44] <Oli``> joaopinto: >_<
[23:44] <purplestar> joaopinto: are you a regular here?
[23:44] <william> magribe, you might try the low latency kernal for that
[23:44] <joaopinto> purplestar, yes, at least during last month
[23:45] <purplestar> joaopinto: are you a programmer?
[23:45] <SliMM> Fryguy--: I'll connect using putty, from my windows machine
[23:45] <Fryguy--> SliMM: then you need to use puttygen to generate your key
[23:45] <SliMM> Fryguy--: does that matter, as long as I take the private key with me?
[23:45] <Fryguy--> or import id_rsa into puttygen and have it convert it to a .ppk for you
[23:45] <SliMM> Fryguy--: ok
[23:45] <Fryguy--> SliMM: putty uses a completely different format for keys
[23:45] <Oli``> joaopinto: now you've done it.. another 25 minutes explaining the merits and drawbacks of getdeb
[23:45] <nickrud> purplestar, this is getting repetitive, if you want to continue searching for a handle on trust over irc, please continue it on #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:45] <joaopinto> purplestar, I was i the past, google for "ptlink software", right now I just do packaging & web dev work for getdeb
[23:46] <obf213> how do i get rhythmbox to not load when i plug in my ipod?
[23:46] <purplestar> joaopinto: yuou said you compiled the mandvd deb on that website.  Did you read and understand ever line of code? If not, then how can you be sure its safe?
[23:46] <SliMM> Fryguy--: but otherwise I shouldn't be able to login from putty, right?
[23:46] <purplestar> nickrud: ok
[23:46] <Fryguy--> purplestar: the only distro that does line by line auditing of code is openbsd, if you care about that you should be running openbsd instead of anything else
[23:46] <joaopinto> purplestar, oh.. wait.. you believe the ubuntu developers read the entire source from another author when packaging :) ?
[23:46] <purplestar> Fryguy--: ok
[23:46] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you can still log in with password based authentication
[23:46] <matelot> z
[23:47] <SliMM> Fryguy--: I want to disable that
[23:47] <thunder_storm> hello everybody
[23:47] <matelot> hi
[23:47] <Fryguy--> SliMM: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:47] <SliMM> Fryguy--: how can I disable that?
[23:47] <purplestar> joaopinto: nickrud has asked us to stop or go to #ubuntu-offtopic. meet you there :)
[23:47] <gavi> i seem to be having trouble applying a theme in emerald.. i imported my theme.. i see the theme inside emerald.. but theme is not applied.. why??
[23:48] <gavi> i also tried emerald --replace
[23:48] <gavi> no go
[23:48] <SliMM> Fryguy--: what should I do there?
[23:49] <Fryguy--> SliMM: read teh manpage and change the setting that corresponds to password based authentication.
[23:49] <Fryguy--> SliMM: btw, I'd recommend not doing that
[23:49] <thunder_storm> i have a question, i have a graphics-card with two dvi-connectors. If it does not matter where I connect my monitor (port 1 or 2)?
[23:49] <SliMM> Fryguy--: why's that?
[23:49] <Fryguy--> SliMM: just makes it much more difficult to log into the machine.  at least wait until you have publickeys set up correctly
[23:49] <thunder_storm> the card is a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
[23:50] <Fryguy--> thunder_storm: it shouldn't matter
[23:50] <SliMM> Fryguy--: I do have physical access to the server
[23:50] <Fryguy--> SliMM: then go ahead i guess
[23:50] <corevette> ubuntu poll: http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-do-you-think-about-ubuntu-design.html
[23:50] <SliMM> Fryguy--: a question about man
[23:50] <obf213> hmm "multimedia" tab is missing from my removable drives and media. so i can't stop rhythmbox from opening up my ipod...grr. any ideas as to what i should od
[23:50] <SliMM> Fryguy--: it says there sshd(8), what does that mean?
[23:51] <SliMM> i mean, what does the 8 stand for?
[23:51] <Fryguy--> SliMM: the manpage is broken up into numbered sections
[23:51] <Fryguy--> SliMM: i forget what all of the sections mean, it's mostly as a convention for the cases where there are 2 manpages with the same name
[23:52] <SliMM> Fryguy--: ok, thanks, how can I access section 8?
[23:52] <Fryguy--> ?
[23:52] <SliMM> just man ssh(8)?
[23:52] <leemajors> hello all
[23:52] <SliMM> sshd(8)
[23:52] <Fryguy--> SliMM: you are reading section 8...
[23:52] <nickrud> obf213, try preferred applications as a preference
[23:53] <SliMM> Fryguy--: well, I was reading sshd_config.. anyway
[23:53] <ShinjinAkage> How do I create an archive through the terminal?
[23:53] <Fryguy--> SliMM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[23:53] <Fryguy--> SliMM: has what you need
[23:53] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: use tar
[23:53] <obf213> nickrud, apparently in 8.04 they decided to leave out the option as to how u want to configure it i guess. i had to go to nautilus settingsk and I couldn't even but in a different command, say Floola for example
[23:53] <obf213> great design....
[23:54] <Fryguy--> ShinjinAkage: check out the manpage for tar, it has sample usage scenarios, should be everything you need
[23:54] <Fryguy--> obf213: file a bug in launchpad
[23:54] <x3> Hi Fryguy how you doing ? Got ubuntu locked and loaded and all is well
[23:54] <x3> thax
[23:54] <WebcamWonder> For installation of Flash Player 10, what is the "installation path of Mozilla, Netscape or Opera" for Firefox: /usr/lib/mozilla ?
[23:55] <Fryguy--> x3: were you the one with 3 hard drives who kept getting grub installed to the wrong one because of a mix of sata and ide?
[23:55] <nickrud> obf213, system->prefs->preferred applications multimedia tab
[23:55] <x3> I kept getting errors yea
[23:55] <obf213> nickrud, i dont have that tabs is what I am saying
[23:55] <Fryguy--> x3: so did you end up unplugging sata drives, installing, and then plugging them back in?
[23:55] <x3> apparently sata IDE drives is a no no during install
[23:56] <Fryguy--> x3: you should file a bug in launchpad about it.  It should be a resolvable issue
[23:56] <nickrud> obf213, you mentioned removeable drives & media, and yes it's not there, it's under preferred applications. And you are sure there's no multimedia tab there?
[23:56] <x3> yea I did unplug drives in the end but funny I tried it before as well but didnt work (suspect a bad burn)
[23:56] <supersako> anyone here use a wacom tablet with ubuntu?
[23:56] <Fryguy--> x3: the fact that you found a workaround is nice, but ubuntu should be able to handle that without you modifying your hardware config
[23:56] <x3> indeed
[23:57] <x3> Im battling filezzila update package synaptic pac installs a older version
[23:57] <supersako> im having trouble with my wacom bamboo in ubuntu
[23:57] <supersako> anyone have experience using wacom tablets with ubuntu??
[23:57] <x3> moment
[23:57] <onthefence928> i need to convert a .avi file to wmv what's my easiest choice?
[23:57] <nickrud> x3, I see that all the time here, you definitely should check for bugs already filed and add comments if you've got some info about it
[23:58] <x3> indeed I will keep an eye out
[23:59] <x3> but thanks for help anywho
[23:59] <gavi> i seem to be having trouble applying a theme in emerald.. i imported my theme.. i see the theme inside emerald.. but theme is not applied.. why??