tomd123 | I was happy when I thought that everything was working or at least was in a partially working condition, but then I found out the segfault in blender which won't allow me to open it :( | 03:14 |
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ripps | Is intrepid going to restore "Removable Devices and Media" it's supposed to be like in Gutsy? | 10:13 |
gnomefreak | ripps: where was it found in gutsy? | 10:52 |
gnomefreak | in places menu? | 10:52 |
ripps | gnomefreak: The multimedia tab is gone in Hardy. Making impossible to set a custom application for DVD's and MP3 players | 10:59 |
gnomefreak | ripps: once again where is this tab you are talking about | 11:00 |
gnomefreak | ripps: nautilus? | 11:00 |
ripps | System->Preferences->Removable Devices and Media->Multimedia | 11:00 |
ripps | Nautilus preferences don't allow to change the application, just if you want it to autostart or not. | 11:01 |
gnomefreak | no it wont have it | 11:01 |
ripps | Seems like something really REALLY stupid to take out. | 11:01 |
gnomefreak | ripps: unless they add it to gnome but as i recall gnome removed it | 11:03 |
gnomefreak | removed == moved it | 11:03 |
ripps | Why would they do that? | 11:03 |
gnomefreak | multimedia isnt hardware anyway. ripps you would have to ask them | 11:03 |
gnomefreak | media in that is cd roms as i recall | 11:04 |
ripps | Well, it's not really "Removable Drives" anymore, it's just removable hardware. | 11:05 |
ripps | Poorly named now | 11:05 |
gnomefreak | no its still removalbe drives | 11:05 |
ripps | But it only Cameras, PDAs and peripherals. None of which I really consider "Drives" (except the cameras, kinda) | 11:06 |
gnomefreak | drives == hardware drivers == software | 11:07 |
ripps | Well, yeah, technically... | 11:07 |
ripps | But to the end user, I think Removable Drives mean are used more for storage than misc. hardware. | 11:08 |
pheeror | <ripps> Nautilus preferences don't allow to change the application, just if you want it to autostart or not. | 11:08 |
ripps | pheeror: yes, I'm aware of that | 11:08 |
pheeror | my nautilus allows it | 11:08 |
ripps | pheeror: what? other applications? | 11:09 |
pheeror | nautilus->preferecences->media and for each type I can set what to do | 11:09 |
ripps | pheeror: I only have rhythmbox | 11:09 |
pheeror | ok, I suppose the application must register themself somewhere ;-) | 11:10 |
ripps | pheeror: I hear banshee does, but most other applications don't, like Amarok. | 11:11 |
pheeror | yeah, you see | 11:11 |
pheeror | because amarok doesn't follow gnome conventions, no surprise | 11:11 |
pheeror | there should be some cross-de standard, sure, but there isn't (-: | 11:12 |
pheeror | so you are forced to dig into gconf-editor, sad | 11:12 |
ripps | That shouldn't matter, in my opinion. I'm allowed to setup a custom browser and email client in Preferred Applications. So why can't I choose what program to use with my MP3 player? | 11:13 |
pheeror | because of gnome :-) | 11:13 |
ripps | Actually, that's exactly where they should but the options if they add them back | 11:14 |
molgrum | still no nvidia drivers? | 11:14 |
pheeror | I'm afraid it's part of gnome HID to purposely omit such options :-( | 11:14 |
ripps | I don't understand, why remove useful features? If your gonna take something out, replace it something better. This was definately a step back | 11:15 |
pheeror | but as long as they aren't freedesktop standards followed by major "players" it's not that wise imo | 11:15 |
pheeror | i ain't gnome dev | 11:15 |
ripps | Yeah, anybody know where I can find a Gnome dev to chew out? | 11:16 |
gnomefreak | ripps: see #gnome | 11:16 |
ripps | Thanks gnomefreak | 11:16 |
gnomefreak | or check thier website for correct channel on correct server but IIRC its freenode #gnome | 11:16 |
gnomefreak | they can point you to devel but remember its a weekend and a holidy one at that for US | 11:17 |
pheeror | but please search their bugzilla first | 11:17 |
gnomefreak | pheeror: i havent see a post about it yet | 11:17 |
gnomefreak | i check weekly but since i havent been on for more than 2 hours here and there i didnt have time to | 11:18 |
cps1966 | !nvidia | 11:58 |
ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 11:58 |
askand | is it safe to install inrepid on an own partition? | 12:41 |
Hobbsee | ish | 12:42 |
RAOF | askand: It's unlikely to go rampaging all over your partitions, but it's not totally impossible. | 12:44 |
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gnomefreak | RAOF: do you hav e acommand that will test sound in speakers by chance? | 12:47 |
gnomefreak | have a command even | 12:48 |
askand | RAOF: ok, ill skip that then, thanks | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | gnomefreak: aplay? | 12:52 |
gnomefreak | aplay alone plays nothing should i add a file to that? | 12:53 |
pheeror | paplay ? | 12:54 |
pheeror | yeah | 12:54 |
pheeror | for oss: 'cat file > /dev/dsp' for alsa 'aplay file' for pulseaudio 'paplay file' | 12:55 |
gnomefreak | ok as long as i use alsa it works but changing default output to PA it doesnt work | 12:55 |
gnomefreak | pheeror: i found the gui way :) | 12:55 |
pheeror | sys -> pref -> sound, sure | 12:56 |
pheeror | pavucontrol rocks too | 12:56 |
gnomefreak | system preference multimedia systems selector | 12:56 |
gnomefreak | selecter | 12:56 |
gnomefreak | neither look right oh well you get it | 12:57 |
pheeror | yeah, gstreamer-properties ;-) | 12:57 |
pheeror | it maybe doesn't work because your hw doesn's support hw multiplexing (is it call like that?) and pulseaudio is bound to the only one support "channel" | 12:58 |
pheeror | you can look at the ouput of aplay -l ... how many subdevices are listed | 12:59 |
gnomefreak | pheeror: it worked before in intrepid and in hardy atleast than i knew i was using PA but i cant remember the commands i needed | 12:59 |
pheeror | oh see, you have an opposite problem | 13:00 |
gnomefreak | too many sections one has 32 and 1 has 8 | 13:00 |
pheeror | haven't you hibernated recently ? | 13:01 |
pheeror | because hibernation screw up my pulseaudio in the same way - it doesn't produce any sound anymore | 13:01 |
gnomefreak | pheeror: this isnt a laptop so no i havent just reboot shutdown | 13:02 |
* gnomefreak guessing amarok2 is still broken | 13:03 | |
pheeror | you can run padevchooser (gtk app that sits in systray) and try setting various options in combination with paplay ... | 13:06 |
gnomefreak | hmmm seems there are alot of broken kde4 packages still that need to be respun | 13:06 |
pheeror | but paplay needs PCM file as input - doesn't accept anything like aplay | 13:06 |
pen | how do I enable hal support for xorg-server? | 13:24 |
molgrum | hey i notice a new kernel update, is there nvidia-drivers there? | 15:12 |
molgrum | nope :( | 15:18 |
ryanpg | others experiencing the "white screen of death" with compiz and intel gm965 chipset? I'm fairly certain it's a bug and not my config | 15:39 |
ryanpg | I'm guessing due to GEM being *partially* merged and non-functional? as running compiz produces some interesting errors like "Failed to initialize TTM buffer manager." and "No GLXFBConfig for depth 32" | 15:42 |
ryanpg | and this lovely jewel from my Xorg.0.log "(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Context) | 15:48 |
ryanpg | (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering | 15:48 |
ryanpg | " | 15:48 |
ryanpg | ok... ok... calm down everybody, let's not all type at once... :P | 15:48 |
ryanpg | I guess I'll just wait till the intel driver syncs up with the mesa/drm/xorg stuff | 15:49 |
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molgrum | want nvidia-drivers... :( | 17:29 |
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jandem | more people get kernel panics with -3 kernel and virtualbox? | 17:57 |
jandem | with 2.6.26-2 it failed sometimes but not always | 17:58 |
geek_inn2 | quite surprised With APPLE'S 300+ features in mac os x | 18:53 |
geek_inn2 | http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#system | 18:53 |
geek_inn2 | still not finished reading | 18:53 |
afallenhope | Hey! if had something installed but removed it... can I remove it from the /etc/init.d/ ? | 19:48 |
afallenhope | it's not installed. | 19:48 |
afallenhope | anyone? | 19:49 |
Legolas | I found a grave bug but don't have an idea on which source package I have to report it... | 19:54 |
Legolas | After the KDE loading screen the session starts... blackish | 19:54 |
Legolas | also self compiled KDE | 19:54 |
Legolas | (where blackish means everything is black, but you can see the shades of screens) | 19:55 |
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geek_inn2 | quacked | 20:14 |
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geek_inn2 | after the new release of 8.04.1 | 20:39 |
geek_inn2 | did devel shifted focus 2 ibex | 20:39 |
geek_inn2 | alpha2 | 20:39 |
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farion | Hello, I'm playing around with intrepid - is there a way to install the nvidia-driver? | 21:07 |
afflux | farion: currently not, if I remember correctly. They are working on it (splitting it up from the LRM package and creating a dkms package). | 21:08 |
farion | is that caused by the new xserver? | 21:09 |
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kristjan_ | farion: where is. let me find a howto | 21:13 |
kristjan_ | farion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833633 | 21:15 |
farion | I tried that already, but if i try to load the module with "modprobe nvidia", it says: "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia" | 21:16 |
kristjan_ | farion: it's old, but worked for me | 21:17 |
kristjan_ | farion: I'm not in intrepid right now, maybe there were updates, and you can't install it this way anymore | 21:17 |
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kristjan_ | farion: did you install patch? | 21:17 |
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kristjan_ | farion: I also removed linux-restricted-modules nvidia-glx-new | 21:18 |
farion | yes, and the patch works fine | 21:18 |
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klerfayt | farion: well I could reboot into intrepid and see if I it's still working | 21:20 |
* klerfayt loves intrepid fast boot time | 21:21 | |
farion | i think the nvidia module, it tried to load is not the one i installed | 21:21 |
klerfayt | farion: did you remove restricted modules package? | 21:21 |
farion | it was not installed | 21:21 |
klerfayt | farion: did the installer finish without errors? | 21:22 |
farion | yes | 21:22 |
farion | after removing nvidia-glx-new, i was able to do "modprobe nvidia" | 21:23 |
farion | but startx says: Failed to load module "nvidia" | 21:23 |
klerfayt | farion: only other thing I did differently - created /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common file <-- and added --> DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new" | 21:23 |
klerfayt | farion: why did you modprobe it? I usually just run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start" | 21:24 |
farion | i want to see if it loads correctly | 21:24 |
klerfayt | farion: did you "cat /var/log/Xorg.log" to see what's the error? | 21:25 |
farion | the output of startx | 21:26 |
klerfayt | farion: fine I'll curios now myself. I'll reboot into intrepid. | 21:28 |
farion | okay thank you :) | 21:28 |
klerfayt | *I am* d'oh | 21:28 |
klerfayt | farion: well, where were some updates, but nvidia drivers still worked after reboot, didn't test opengl though | 21:44 |
farion | k, thank you | 21:45 |
klerfayt | farion: do you have some weird options there "usefb" in xorg.conf? | 21:45 |
farion | no | 21:45 |
farion | twiview and AddARGBGLXVisuals, but these are nvidia features | 21:46 |
klerfayt | farion: next time look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log after startx fails, maybe you get the exact error | 21:46 |
farion | it does not say a lot: Warning, couldn't open module nvidia | 21:48 |
klerfayt | farion: did you try DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new" into the file /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common? although I doubt it makes any difference | 21:49 |
farion | yes i tried, but it does not matter | 21:49 |
farion | okay, i will do more test tomorrow. thank you for your help | 21:51 |
klerfayt | farion: btw nvidia glx package from ubuntu repo doesn't work also last time I checked | 21:51 |
farion | yes, i tried the packages already | 21:51 |
farion | bye | 21:52 |
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afflux | hi. I seem to need some help. My system seems kind of broken. I can't log in with my normal user, neither in X nor in a VT (it says: could not cd to /home/$USER). I'm in the single user mode now, and I have some weird symptoms | 22:41 |
afflux | running any sudo command leads to "can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied" | 22:42 |
afflux | while I still can open it with vim | 22:42 |
afflux | loggin in to my usual account (su k, where k is my user account) leads to "Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied" | 22:43 |
tomd123 | afflux: type "su" enter. log in as root.. vim /etc/sudoers | 22:44 |
afflux | tomd, I am root (single user mode, recovery mode), I can read the sudoers file but sudo complains about it. | 22:44 |
tomd123 | ok | 22:44 |
tomd123 | find the line that says root ALL=(ALL) ALL | 22:45 |
tomd123 | and add a line that says the same thing as the last right underneath it, just instead of root, your username | 22:46 |
tomd123 | you could just add yourself to the admin group also | 22:46 |
afflux | tomd123: err... the problem is not that my user can't run sudo. he is in the admin group. | 22:46 |
tomd123 | oh | 22:47 |
afflux | tomd123: I am root. 'id' says: uid=0(root). But neither logging in to my user using "su $username" nor "sudo su $username" works. | 22:48 |
afflux | actually, running any sudo command leads to the permission denied on the sudoers file. | 22:48 |
tomd123 | while in root? | 22:48 |
afflux | yes | 22:49 |
tomd123 | dunno then, searching on ubuntu forums could lead up to something, although this is alpha1 :) I have a ton of bugs, with strlen is not defined within the namespace error while compiling a vanilla fluxbox :) I think I'm gonna go back to 8.04 or debian until alpha2 | 22:51 |
afflux | tomd123: yeah, I know that ;) I'm on intrepid since quite some time, actually. I'm usually able to debug some things but this is really weird. | 22:53 |
afflux | thanks for your help though | 22:53 |
tomd123 | afflux: yup, cya in alpha 2 :) | 22:53 |
afflux | hehe | 22:53 |
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Amaranth | afflux: what is the error? | 23:06 |
afflux | Amaranth: 'permission denied' on virtually everything, though the permissions are correct. | 23:07 |
Amaranth | hrm | 23:07 |
Amaranth | try booting the 2.6.24 kernel from hardy | 23:07 |
afflux | argh, stupid me. I removed it recentlz. Will install it in a minute. (btw., the .26 kernel worked well for a couple of weeks) | 23:09 |
Amaranth | i dunno, i was hoping I could blame apparmor | 23:10 |
afflux | yup, will check that | 23:11 |
afflux | Amaranth: humm, .24 does not change anything | 23:24 |
Amaranth | what is the exact error you get? | 23:24 |
afflux | Amaranth: http://pastebin.ca/1063307 | 23:26 |
Amaranth | can you pastebin dmesg too? | 23:26 |
afflux | Amaranth: http://pastebin.com/f461e6616 | 23:27 |
Amaranth | you have a floppy drive? | 23:27 |
afflux | nope | 23:28 |
afflux | not sure where /dev/fd0 comes from, though | 23:28 |
Amaranth | odd errors at the end there | 23:28 |
Amaranth | mount | grep /dev/fd0 | 23:28 |
afflux | returns nothing | 23:29 |
Amaranth | weird | 23:33 |
Amaranth | Well, I'm out of ideas | 23:33 |
Amaranth | I had similar errors when my HD was dying but I got dmesg output about the errors | 23:33 |
afflux | uh. | 23:34 |
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