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tomd123I was happy when I thought that everything was working or at least was in a partially working condition, but then I found out the segfault in blender which won't allow me to open it :(03:14
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G_009no proprietary driver in use04:48
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rippsIs intrepid going to restore "Removable Devices and Media" it's supposed to be like in Gutsy?10:13
gnomefreakripps: where was it found in gutsy?10:52
gnomefreakin places menu?10:52
rippsgnomefreak: The multimedia tab is gone in Hardy. Making impossible to set a custom application for DVD's and MP3 players10:59
gnomefreakripps: once again where is this tab you are talking about11:00
gnomefreakripps: nautilus?11:00
rippsSystem->Preferences->Removable Devices and Media->Multimedia11:00
rippsNautilus preferences don't allow to change the application, just if you want it to autostart or not.11:01
gnomefreakno it wont have it11:01
rippsSeems like something really REALLY stupid to take out.11:01
gnomefreakripps: unless they add it to gnome but as i recall gnome removed it11:03
gnomefreakremoved == moved it11:03
rippsWhy would they do that?11:03
gnomefreakmultimedia isnt hardware anyway. ripps you would have to ask them11:03
gnomefreakmedia in that is cd roms as i recall11:04
rippsWell, it's not really "Removable Drives" anymore, it's just removable hardware.11:05
rippsPoorly named now11:05
gnomefreakno its still removalbe drives11:05
rippsBut it only Cameras, PDAs and peripherals. None of which I really consider "Drives" (except the cameras, kinda)11:06
gnomefreakdrives == hardware drivers == software11:07
rippsWell, yeah, technically...11:07
rippsBut to the end user, I think Removable Drives mean are used more for storage than misc. hardware.11:08
pheeror<ripps> Nautilus preferences don't allow to change the application, just if you want it to autostart or not.11:08
rippspheeror: yes, I'm aware of that11:08
pheerormy nautilus allows it11:08
rippspheeror: what? other applications?11:09
pheerornautilus->preferecences->media and for each type I can set what to do11:09
rippspheeror: I only have rhythmbox11:09
pheerorok, I suppose the application must register themself somewhere ;-)11:10
rippspheeror: I hear banshee does, but most other applications don't, like Amarok.11:11
pheeroryeah, you see11:11
pheerorbecause amarok doesn't follow gnome conventions, no surprise11:11
pheerorthere should be some cross-de standard, sure, but there isn't (-:11:12
pheerorso you are forced to dig into gconf-editor, sad11:12
rippsThat shouldn't matter, in my opinion. I'm allowed to setup a custom browser and email client in Preferred Applications. So why can't I choose what program to use with my MP3 player?11:13
pheerorbecause of gnome :-)11:13
rippsActually, that's exactly where they should but the options if they add them back11:14
molgrumstill no nvidia drivers?11:14
pheerorI'm afraid it's part of gnome HID to purposely omit such options :-(11:14
rippsI don't understand, why remove useful features? If your gonna take something out, replace it something better. This was definately a step back11:15
pheerorbut as long as they aren't freedesktop standards followed by major "players" it's not that wise imo11:15
pheerori ain't gnome dev11:15
rippsYeah, anybody know where I can find a Gnome dev to chew out?11:16
gnomefreakripps: see #gnome11:16
rippsThanks gnomefreak11:16
gnomefreakor check thier website for correct channel on correct server but IIRC its freenode #gnome11:16
gnomefreakthey can point you  to devel but remember its a weekend and a holidy one at that for US11:17
pheerorbut please search their bugzilla first11:17
gnomefreakpheeror: i havent see a post about it yet11:17
gnomefreaki check weekly but since i havent been on for more than 2 hours here and there i didnt have time to11:18
cps1966!nvidia11:58
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:58
askandis it safe to install inrepid on an own partition?12:41
Hobbseeish12:42
RAOFaskand: It's unlikely to go rampaging all over your partitions, but it's not totally impossible.12:44
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gnomefreakRAOF: do you hav e acommand that will test sound in speakers by chance?12:47
gnomefreakhave a command even12:48
askandRAOF: ok, ill skip that then, thanks12:51
Hobbseegnomefreak: aplay?12:52
gnomefreakaplay alone plays nothing should i add a file to that?12:53
pheerorpaplay ?12:54
pheeroryeah12:54
pheerorfor oss: 'cat file > /dev/dsp' for alsa 'aplay file' for pulseaudio 'paplay file'12:55
gnomefreakok as long as i use alsa it works but changing default output to PA it doesnt work12:55
gnomefreakpheeror: i found the gui way :)12:55
pheerorsys -> pref -> sound, sure12:56
pheerorpavucontrol rocks too12:56
gnomefreaksystem preference multimedia systems selector12:56
gnomefreakselecter12:56
gnomefreakneither look right oh well you get it12:57
pheeroryeah, gstreamer-properties ;-)12:57
pheerorit maybe doesn't work because your hw doesn's support hw multiplexing (is it call like that?) and pulseaudio is bound to the only one support "channel"12:58
pheeroryou can look at the ouput of aplay -l ... how many subdevices are listed12:59
gnomefreakpheeror: it worked before in intrepid and in hardy atleast than i knew i was using PA but i cant remember the commands i needed12:59
pheeroroh see, you have an opposite problem13:00
gnomefreaktoo many sections one has 32 and 1 has 813:00
pheerorhaven't you hibernated recently ?13:01
pheerorbecause hibernation screw up my pulseaudio in the same way - it doesn't produce any sound anymore13:01
gnomefreakpheeror: this isnt a laptop so no i havent just reboot shutdown13:02
* gnomefreak guessing amarok2 is still broken13:03
pheeroryou can run padevchooser (gtk app that sits in systray) and try setting various options in combination with paplay ...13:06
gnomefreakhmmm seems there are alot of broken kde4 packages still that need to be respun13:06
pheerorbut paplay needs PCM file as input - doesn't accept anything like aplay13:06
penhow do I enable hal support for xorg-server?13:24
molgrumhey i notice a new kernel update, is there nvidia-drivers there?15:12
molgrumnope :(15:18
ryanpgothers experiencing the "white screen of death" with compiz and intel gm965 chipset? I'm fairly certain it's a bug and not my config15:39
ryanpgI'm guessing due to GEM being *partially* merged and non-functional? as running compiz produces some interesting errors like "Failed to initialize TTM buffer manager." and "No GLXFBConfig for depth 32"15:42
ryanpgand this lovely jewel from my Xorg.0.log "(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Context)15:48
ryanpg(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering15:48
ryanpg"15:48
ryanpgok... ok... calm down everybody, let's not all type at once... :P15:48
ryanpgI guess I'll just wait till the intel driver syncs up with the mesa/drm/xorg stuff15:49
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molgrumwant nvidia-drivers... :(17:29
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jandemmore people get kernel panics with -3 kernel and virtualbox?17:57
jandemwith 2.6.26-2 it failed sometimes but not always17:58
geek_inn2quite surprised With APPLE'S 300+ features in mac os x18:53
geek_inn2http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#system18:53
geek_inn2still not finished reading18:53
afallenhopeHey! if had something installed but removed it... can I remove it from the /etc/init.d/ ?19:48
afallenhopeit's not installed.19:48
afallenhopeanyone?19:49
LegolasI found a grave bug but don't have an idea on which source package I have to report it...19:54
LegolasAfter the KDE loading screen the session starts... blackish19:54
Legolasalso self compiled KDE19:54
Legolas(where blackish means everything is black, but you can see the shades of screens)19:55
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geek_inn2quacked20:14
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geek_inn2after the new release of 8.04.120:39
geek_inn2did devel shifted focus 2 ibex20:39
geek_inn2alpha220:39
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farionHello, I'm playing around with intrepid - is there a way to install the nvidia-driver?21:07
affluxfarion: currently not, if I remember correctly. They are working on it (splitting it up from the LRM package and creating a dkms package).21:08
farionis that caused by the new xserver?21:09
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kristjan_farion: where is. let me find a howto21:13
kristjan_farion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83363321:15
farionI tried that already, but if i try to load the module with "modprobe nvidia", it says: "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia"21:16
kristjan_farion: it's old, but worked for me21:17
kristjan_farion: I'm not in intrepid right now, maybe there were updates, and you can't install it this way anymore21:17
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kristjan_farion: did you install patch?21:17
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kristjan_farion: I also removed linux-restricted-modules nvidia-glx-new21:18
farionyes, and the patch works fine21:18
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klerfaytfarion: well I could reboot into intrepid and see if I it's still working21:20
* klerfayt loves intrepid fast boot time21:21
farioni think the nvidia module, it tried to load is not the one i installed21:21
klerfaytfarion: did you remove restricted modules package?21:21
farionit was not installed21:21
klerfaytfarion: did the installer finish without errors?21:22
farionyes21:22
farionafter removing nvidia-glx-new, i was able to do "modprobe nvidia"21:23
farionbut startx says: Failed to load module "nvidia"21:23
klerfaytfarion: only other thing I did differently - created /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common file <-- and added --> DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new"21:23
klerfaytfarion: why did you modprobe it? I usually just run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"21:24
farioni want to see if it loads correctly21:24
klerfaytfarion: did you "cat /var/log/Xorg.log" to see what's the error?21:25
farionthe output of startx21:26
klerfaytfarion: fine I'll curios now myself. I'll reboot into intrepid.21:28
farionokay thank you :)21:28
klerfayt*I am* d'oh21:28
klerfaytfarion: well, where were some updates, but nvidia drivers still worked after reboot, didn't test opengl though21:44
farionk, thank you21:45
klerfaytfarion: do you have some weird options there "usefb" in xorg.conf?21:45
farionno21:45
fariontwiview and AddARGBGLXVisuals, but these are nvidia features21:46
klerfaytfarion: next time look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log after startx fails, maybe you get the exact error21:46
farionit does not say a lot: Warning, couldn't open module nvidia21:48
klerfaytfarion: did you try DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new" into the file /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common? although I doubt it makes any difference21:49
farionyes i tried, but it does not matter21:49
farionokay, i will do more test tomorrow. thank you for your help21:51
klerfaytfarion: btw nvidia glx package from ubuntu repo doesn't work also last time I checked21:51
farionyes, i tried the packages already21:51
farionbye21:52
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affluxhi. I seem to need some help. My system seems kind of broken. I can't log in with my normal user, neither in X nor in a VT (it says: could not cd to /home/$USER). I'm in the single user mode now, and I have some weird symptoms22:41
affluxrunning any sudo command leads to "can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied"22:42
affluxwhile I still can open it with vim22:42
affluxloggin in to my usual account (su k, where k is my user account) leads to "Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied"22:43
tomd123afflux: type "su" enter. log in as root.. vim /etc/sudoers22:44
affluxtomd, I am root (single user mode, recovery mode), I can read the sudoers file but sudo complains about it.22:44
tomd123ok22:44
tomd123find the line that says root   ALL=(ALL) ALL22:45
tomd123and add a line that says the same thing as the last right underneath it, just instead of root, your username22:46
tomd123you could just add yourself to the admin group also22:46
affluxtomd123: err... the problem is not that my user can't run sudo. he is in the admin group.22:46
tomd123oh22:47
affluxtomd123: I am root. 'id' says: uid=0(root). But neither logging in to my user using "su $username" nor "sudo su $username" works.22:48
affluxactually, running any sudo command leads to the permission denied on the sudoers file.22:48
tomd123while in root?22:48
affluxyes22:49
tomd123dunno then, searching on ubuntu forums could lead up to something, although this is alpha1 :) I have a ton of bugs, with strlen is not defined within the namespace error while compiling a vanilla fluxbox :) I think I'm gonna go back to 8.04 or debian until alpha222:51
affluxtomd123: yeah, I know that ;) I'm on intrepid since quite some time, actually. I'm usually able to debug some things but this is really weird.22:53
affluxthanks for your help though22:53
tomd123afflux: yup, cya in alpha 2 :)22:53
affluxhehe22:53
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Amaranthafflux: what is the error?23:06
affluxAmaranth: 'permission denied' on virtually everything, though the permissions are correct.23:07
Amaranthhrm23:07
Amaranthtry booting the 2.6.24 kernel from hardy23:07
affluxargh, stupid me. I removed it recentlz. Will install it in a minute. (btw., the .26 kernel worked well for a couple of weeks)23:09
Amaranthi dunno, i was hoping I could blame apparmor23:10
affluxyup, will check that23:11
affluxAmaranth: humm, .24 does not change anything23:24
Amaranthwhat is the exact error you get?23:24
affluxAmaranth: http://pastebin.ca/106330723:26
Amaranthcan you pastebin dmesg too?23:26
affluxAmaranth: http://pastebin.com/f461e661623:27
Amaranthyou have a floppy drive?23:27
affluxnope23:28
affluxnot sure where /dev/fd0 comes from, though23:28
Amaranthodd errors at the end there23:28
Amaranthmount | grep /dev/fd023:28
affluxreturns nothing23:29
Amaranthweird23:33
AmaranthWell, I'm out of ideas23:33
AmaranthI had similar errors when my HD was dying but I got dmesg output about the errors23:33
affluxuh.23:34

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