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| jablko | how can i build an alpha 1 iso from source? | 00:30 |
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| jablko | are there scripts to build the ISOs - under version control somewhere? | 00:31 |
| lamont2 | jablko, debian-cd, iirc | 00:36 |
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| Hobbsee | pitti: interestingly, i didn't get a black X on my next boot, after shutting down my machine for the night (with a splash screen). is it only a reboot thing, or does it only happen the first time after you reboot after that update? | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: definite blink. | 04:11 |
| === pbn_ is now known as pbn | ||
| pitti | Hobbsee: always happens to me so far, even after several boots | 10:57 |
| pitti | might be a race | 10:57 |
| * wgrant is happy that his i915 is working fine. | 11:00 | |
| rleigh_ | Hi folks, sorry if this is OT. When launchpad was set up, IIRC Debian developers were created accounts automatically; does the same apply to the forums? I've tried to register using "rleigh" as the user, but apparently I can't do that (or reset the password--is it locked?). | 13:22 |
| james_w | hi rleigh_ | 13:24 |
| james_w | there is a #launchpad channel that will probably be more helpful | 13:24 |
| rleigh_ | james_w: Thanks! | 13:25 |
| Hobbsee | james_w: ...? | 13:26 |
| Hobbsee | james_w: does launchpad deal with the forums now? | 13:27 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: no LP doesnt support forums as in LP account is not transfered over for simple reasons like names aval. in one may not be in another | 13:38 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: i didn't think so | 13:39 |
| gnomefreak | rleigh_: see my comment above for your answer | 13:46 |
| rleigh_ | gnomefreak: OK, thanks. | 13:49 |
| gnomefreak | rleigh_: np | 13:50 |
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| mo | i have a problem with the dm_crypt password dialog at boot time. it does not take my password. if i wait and let me drop into initramfs-shell, i can mount everything with cryptsetup and go on booting. any ideas!? | 14:23 |
| Chipzz | !weekend | mo | 14:28 |
| ubottu | mo: It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. | 14:28 |
| Chipzz | also I'm not sure exactly how stable the functionality you're inquiring about is | 14:29 |
| stgraber | Chipzz: encrypted LVM is a supported partitioning using Ubuntu Alternate | 14:29 |
| stgraber | it's currently (at least the installer part) a bit broken in Intrepid but it's stable in Hardy and works well (at least here) | 14:30 |
| stgraber | anyway, it's always best to file a bug report on LP and let the triagers and developers have a look at it | 14:30 |
| alex-weej | need to pick someone's brain before i try and file this bug on behalf of a friend | 14:33 |
| alex-weej | he has one of the apple mighty mouse things, bluetooth and all | 14:33 |
| alex-weej | crap.. wrong channel | 14:33 |
| mo | i first tried it by myself and then the alternate installer. allways the same | 14:37 |
| mo | first i thought the enrypt modules are not loaded or not included in the initramfs, but as is said in the initramfs shell i can easly mount them by myself en continue booting | 14:38 |
| alex-weej | is there some way to get "foreign" file systems whose UIDs don't match up with the running system's UIDs to just grant full access? | 16:00 |
| alex-weej | i think i need to write a blueprint. | 16:00 |
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| Chipzz | any sysadmin here? packages.ubuntu.com appears to be down | 16:44 |
| zorglu_ | on hardy, ulimit by default is "max locked memory (kbytes, -l) 32" so program refuses to run in normal cases. as one can not requires from user to change the ulimit, we have to change remove the mlock | 16:44 |
| zorglu_ | not a good move as it decrease security for no reason | 16:44 |
| superm1 | Chipzz, /j #canonical-sysadmin | 16:45 |
| laga | zorglu_: ulimit says "unlimited" on my box | 16:45 |
| geser | superm1: is p.u.c already hosted by canonical? | 16:45 |
| superm1 | geser, i thought it was? | 16:45 |
| Adri2000 | it wasn't until very recently at least | 16:46 |
| zorglu_ | laga: try "ulimit -a" | 16:47 |
| geser | superm1: afaik frank lichtenfeld hosted p.u.c and packages.debian.org but there was a question about hosting on the ubuntu-devel ml but I don't remeber the outcome of it and if it switched in mean time | 16:47 |
| superm1 | geser, i was assuming that it had switched when the new SW interface was loaded on p.u.c | 16:47 |
| superm1 | but i may be wrong | 16:47 |
| laga | zorglu_: indeed | 16:48 |
| Adri2000 | it seems you're right superm1: packages.ubuntu.com has address 91.189.94.219 and 219.94.189.91.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer sulfur.canonical.com. | 16:48 |
| geser | superm1: I don't know, but I didn't see it mentioned either | 16:48 |
| zorglu_ | ok need to workaround this no more mlock on ubuntu, now :) security ++ :) | 16:50 |
| Chipzz | geser: p.u.c is ambiguous btw :) | 16:52 |
| Chipzz | geser: could be both planet or packages ;) | 16:52 |
| emgent | heheh true :P | 16:52 |
| Chipzz | but packages.u.c was recently moved I believe | 16:52 |
| Chipzz | which is supported by the fact that packages.debian.org *does* respond to http requests | 16:52 |
| emgent | pa.u.c seems donw | 16:52 |
| emgent | s/donw/down/ | 16:53 |
| Chipzz | emgent: 17:44 < Chipzz> any sysadmin here? packages.ubuntu.com appears to be down | 16:53 |
| slangasek | superm1, laga: ping, re: mythbuntu alternates for 8.04.1 | 17:05 |
| laga | slangasek: pong | 17:05 |
| laga | slangasek: still no luck with the SRUs :) | 17:05 |
| slangasek | laga: ok :) | 17:05 |
| laga | except that superm1 tested one of them. yay. | 17:05 |
| slangasek | laga: any sort of time table? | 17:06 |
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| laga | uh, 2 weeks before i can do anything. | 17:07 |
| slangasek | hmm, ok | 17:07 |
| slangasek | sooner would be nice, I guess I'll pester superm1 :) | 17:07 |
| laga | and i guess if people dont test the SRUs there's no demand for a mythbuntu 8.04.1 :) | 17:07 |
| Mirv | any PS3 devels here? I wonder if PS3 images from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/8.04/release/ should be removed, as I heard even 8.04.1 is simply not functional? 8.04 images were never released over there and people were directed to the enchanced 7.10 build at least before | 17:08 |
| slangasek | laga: well, I haven't pulled the 8.04 ISOs yet for mythbuntu, but I feel that we should at some point soon because of the OpenSSL vuln | 17:09 |
| slangasek | laga: and of course I would like to be able to put something in its place, rather than just removing it... | 17:10 |
| superm1 | sladen, the MCC one is cleared. i'm trying to assemble a good test VM to verify the other SRU | 17:12 |
| alex-weej | can someone explain the mailing list situation to me briefly please -- ubuntu-devel still moderated? | 17:13 |
| laga | superm1: is it? great. also, you probably meant to talk to slangasek | 17:16 |
| * laga hugs superm1 | 17:16 | |
| slangasek | superm1: ok, good to hear :) | 17:16 |
| slangasek | alex-weej: Ubuntu developers are allowed to post without moderation; other posts are moderated | 17:17 |
| superm1 | laga, well cleared in the sense that i verified it. someone needs to copy it to hardy-updates probably still | 17:17 |
| laga | superm1: is one ACK sufficient? | 17:18 |
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| superm1 | laga, i dont anticipate we'll (easily) get any more testing on it. i dont believe the SRU spec calls for any specific number of ACK's | 17:20 |
| laga | well, basically, we have two ACK's, but mine probably does not count :) | 17:20 |
| laga | SRU spec is overrated anyways. | 17:20 |
| Chipzz | I'm not sure if this is appropriate here, or if I should ask on #ubuntu-motu (which I already did), but are there any people here who have experience in packaging php extensions? | 17:22 |
| alex-weej | why is the default "configured mouse" in xorg.conf using the "vmmouse" driver? | 17:36 |
| alex-weej | i don't even use vmware | 17:36 |
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| superm1 | slangasek, laga okay I verified that the other SRU works out correctly too | 17:59 |
| slangasek | superm1: spiff - should I go ahead with copying the current alternate images over as 8.04.1, or do they still need further testing? | 18:19 |
| superm1 | slangasek, i am doing one more test install with the alternate 8.04.1 image to make sure nothing else is broke | 18:19 |
| slangasek | ok | 18:19 |
| superm1 | so in a little bit | 18:19 |
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| superm1 | slangasek, okay test install just finished. alternate looks OK | 18:27 |
| Keybuk | ok, that was _deeply_ suspicious | 18:35 |
| Keybuk | both my desktop and laptop both hung at the same time | 18:36 |
| ion_ | Some kind of a spike in the power supply perhaps? | 18:36 |
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| Keybuk | ion_: the laptop is on battery power! | 18:39 |
| ion_ | Huh. :-) | 18:39 |
| Keybuk | was just after I did an apt-get | 18:39 |
| geser | cosmic radiation | 18:40 |
| Keybuk | Jul 5 18:24:50 quest kernel: [199208.875533] ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilte | 18:40 |
| Keybuk | r Core Team | 18:40 |
| Keybuk | Jul 5 18:24:51 quest exiting on signal 15 | 18:40 |
| Keybuk | Jul 5 18:33:50 quest syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart. | 18:40 |
| Keybuk | ?! | 18:40 |
| Keybuk | weird, it looks like it just shutdown normally | 18:42 |
| Keybuk | probably iz upstart bug then :-/ | 18:43 |
| [reed] | is packages.ubuntu.com supposed to be down? | 19:06 |
| Chipzz | [reed]: already known | 19:06 |
| [reed] | k | 19:06 |
| Chipzz | [reed]: I talked to elmo about it, he's aware of the problem, but rebooting the hardware needs physical access | 19:07 |
| [reed] | no iLO, kvm, or remote hands? :) | 19:07 |
| masood | hi | 19:12 |
| masood | can anyone help me out about a question? Why some packages in the ubuntu repository have a strange version such as 4:3.5.9 ? | 19:13 |
| LaserJock | masood: you mean the 4: part? | 19:13 |
| masood | yep | 19:13 |
| LaserJock | masood: that's called an epoch | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | it allows packagers fix bad versioning | 19:14 |
| masood | LaserJock: is that actually a standard practice? | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | yes | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | but you only want to use it if you have to | 19:14 |
| masood | LaserJock: why does dh_make complain about it then? | 19:15 |
| LaserJock | depends on the complaint | 19:15 |
| masood | LaserJock: an error message like unknown version | 19:16 |
| LaserJock | well, that could be because you don't usually create a new package with an epoch | 19:16 |
| LaserJock | masood: is there a reason why you're using an epoch? | 19:17 |
| masood | LaserJock: Also, if lets say we have pidgin packages with versions 3.4 and 1:3.5, which packages apt-get consider the newer version? | 19:17 |
| LaserJock | 1:3.5 | 19:18 |
| LaserJock | in fact if it was version 1:1.0 and 3.4, 1:1.0 would be bigger | 19:18 |
| masood | LaserJock: sorry i gave a bad example.. how about 3.5 and 1:3.4 | 19:18 |
| masood | ? | 19:18 |
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| LaserJock | 1:3.4 | 19:18 |
| masood | ok | 19:18 |
| LaserJock | that's the purpose of the epoch | 19:18 |
| masood | LaserJock: last time i tried to add new pidgin in my ppa and I came across this new versions.. | 19:19 |
| LaserJock | if the upstream developers change version schemes, or if we need to go back to a previous version, or if we make a mistake | 19:19 |
| LaserJock | those are times when you'll see an epoch | 19:20 |
| masood | LAserJock: how can we actually go back to old versioning scheme if we have one of these epoched version in the repo? | 19:21 |
| LaserJock | you have to bump the epoch | 19:21 |
| LaserJock | so you'd have to go to 2: | 19:21 |
| masood | LaserJock: bump? meaning delete it? | 19:22 |
| LaserJock | no | 19:22 |
| LaserJock | increase it | 19:22 |
| LaserJock | you can't go back | 19:22 |
| LaserJock | that's why you only want to use an epoch if you have to | 19:22 |
| masood | LaserJock: i got it now. thanks a lot for the help. | 19:23 |
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| Mirv | alex-weej: ubuntu-devel is moderated, ubuntu-devel-discuss is open for everyone | 20:03 |
| alex-weej | yeah thought so. thanks. | 20:04 |
| * alex-weej is surprised people read IRC logs that far back. | 20:04 | |
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