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_r1_I there21:10
naliothhi _r1_21:10
_r1_:)21:10
_r1_ok then21:10
_r1_It would be great to have a +L on #ubuntu-fr21:11
nalioth_r1_: why do you need a +L ?21:11
_r1_The team have some issue to manage all the banned bot/spammers/...21:11
_r1_they have try (after my recommend) to keep that without a +L21:12
naliothhow about clearing some old bans?21:12
_r1_but they have to purge and reban a lot21:12
_r1_nalioth: allready done21:12
_r1_they have tried to handle that but they relly need it apprently... (I'm just owner and I'm not really active in moderation team)21:13
_r1_I give them some help for internal problems and this kind of issue21:14
nalioth+L for some ops is "ban and forget" enabling21:14
_r1_I agree21:14
_r1_So I'll keep an eye on it21:14
_r1_can you /j #ubuntu-fr-geeks ?21:14
_r1_there is the Op team21:15
PriceChildWith 230 users, asking for +L implies that bans are needed on a very large number of people, respective to the channel size.21:44
[NikO]we check each week, remove bans, and on the same reput them ...21:44
[NikO]+week21:45
PriceChildI remember a few requests about the floodbots also, scary.21:45
[NikO]u-de have it no ?21:45
_r1_PriceChild: what ?21:45
[NikO]we put ones21:45
PriceChildBut then again, I notice #ubuntu-offtopic has +L and it has been useful iirc.21:45
PriceChild(That's a smaller channel, but possibly more volatile)21:46
_r1_mmm21:46
_r1_really I don't understand why you are so hard to convice to put a +L on the u-fr chan21:47
[NikO]u-fr moderators have discussion about +L each week, that s only the second time we ask for it21:47
_r1_I reapeat that I'm not in "really" the moderator team21:48
_r1_If they ask me to act for them21:48
_r1_It's beacause they have a real problem21:48
_r1_then I'll be honnest, they start to think that there is a problem between you and them :/21:49
_r1_I'm not a part of any21:49
_r1_but It would be great to restore communications :p21:49
PriceChildWhat was Suske_ kickbanned for earlier?21:50
[NikO]i was away at the moment, i can't answer21:50
_r1_PriceChild: mmm why this question ?21:51
_r1_PriceChild: It's the modaration team choice...21:51
PriceChildWhat does "1215273195 20080705T165315 < Suske_> En tout cas, bravo les zouaves: une question "simple" (peut-être mal posée) et je reçois de retour 3 vannes simplistes  du style "mal codé", "jquery, le truc du mec de 12 ans", et puis des "truismes sur le w3c et on a même déjà parlé d'IE6  alors que je questionne sur Konqueror...21:51
PriceChild1215273223 20080705T165343 < Suske_> Ma proposition: si la question ne vous dit rien, dites "je sais pas", c'est mieux :-)21:51
PriceChildgah21:51
PriceChildignore that sorry21:51
PriceChildWhat does "t'chao the Zouaves" mean?21:51
_r1_"by the ... "21:52
_r1_how to say21:52
_r1_kind of "assholes" :)21:52
PriceChildgah "t'chao les Zouaves" sorry21:52
_r1_less aggressive21:52
_r1_PriceChild: sooo21:52
PriceChildIt was the kick remove message used on Suske_21:52
[NikO]it s like see you later or something like that21:53
_r1_PriceChild: you don't trust team and verify the choices they made ?21:53
_r1_...21:53
PriceChildI've got my Ubuntu hat on, just being nosey and looking at how bans are used in the channel.21:53
PriceChild_r1_: Sure, and we have done for some time, but it doesn't hurt to check up. All the teams I am on have people checking up on us too.21:53
_r1_ok21:54
_r1_actually, the team works, they construct they participate on ubuntu event21:54
_r1_to help21:54
_r1_aand you ask yourself if they are good...21:54
_r1_really I think (personnaly without any hat :) ) that's not so good21:55
_r1_but as you want21:55
PriceChildI'm not accusing you of running the channel badly.21:55
PriceChildYou're asking freenode for +L, and I'm just having a quick look at how bans are used in the channel.21:56
nalioth_r1_: any channel that asks for +L gets looked at like this21:56
[NikO]we do the max to keep a good 'ambiance' on the channel21:56
[NikO]people help others, no insult, respect21:56
PriceChild[NikO]: were you in the channel at the time of the ban I'm enquiring about?21:57
_r1_nalioth: ok21:57
[NikO]no, as i say before, i m away when the bans was put21:58
PriceChildwhoops sorry21:58
[NikO]sorry for my poor english too :)21:58
_r1_mine too :)21:59
PriceChildYour English is much better than my French :)21:59
[NikO]well, perhaps the only solution we have, it s to use the bot to manage bans ..22:09
_r1_:/22:09

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