=== UdontKnow is now known as root [05:38] * TiMiDo is away: Auto-away after 2 mins idle (gone at 5th Jul, 04:38:40) === TiMiDo is now known as TiMiDo`afk === asdfgh is now known as DaZ === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` === techno_freak is now known as HereBePython [21:10] <_r1_> I there [21:10] hi _r1_ [21:10] <_r1_> :) [21:10] <_r1_> ok then [21:11] <_r1_> It would be great to have a +L on #ubuntu-fr [21:11] _r1_: why do you need a +L ? [21:11] <_r1_> The team have some issue to manage all the banned bot/spammers/... [21:12] <_r1_> they have try (after my recommend) to keep that without a +L [21:12] how about clearing some old bans? [21:12] <_r1_> but they have to purge and reban a lot [21:12] <_r1_> nalioth: allready done [21:13] <_r1_> they have tried to handle that but they relly need it apprently... (I'm just owner and I'm not really active in moderation team) [21:14] <_r1_> I give them some help for internal problems and this kind of issue [21:14] +L for some ops is "ban and forget" enabling [21:14] <_r1_> I agree [21:14] <_r1_> So I'll keep an eye on it [21:14] <_r1_> can you /j #ubuntu-fr-geeks ? [21:15] <_r1_> there is the Op team [21:44] With 230 users, asking for +L implies that bans are needed on a very large number of people, respective to the channel size. [21:44] <[NikO]> we check each week, remove bans, and on the same reput them ... [21:45] <[NikO]> +week [21:45] I remember a few requests about the floodbots also, scary. [21:45] <[NikO]> u-de have it no ? [21:45] <_r1_> PriceChild: what ? [21:45] <[NikO]> we put ones [21:45] But then again, I notice #ubuntu-offtopic has +L and it has been useful iirc. [21:46] (That's a smaller channel, but possibly more volatile) [21:46] <_r1_> mmm [21:47] <_r1_> really I don't understand why you are so hard to convice to put a +L on the u-fr chan [21:47] <[NikO]> u-fr moderators have discussion about +L each week, that s only the second time we ask for it [21:48] <_r1_> I reapeat that I'm not in "really" the moderator team [21:48] <_r1_> If they ask me to act for them [21:48] <_r1_> It's beacause they have a real problem [21:49] <_r1_> then I'll be honnest, they start to think that there is a problem between you and them :/ [21:49] <_r1_> I'm not a part of any [21:49] <_r1_> but It would be great to restore communications :p [21:50] What was Suske_ kickbanned for earlier? [21:50] <[NikO]> i was away at the moment, i can't answer [21:51] <_r1_> PriceChild: mmm why this question ? [21:51] <_r1_> PriceChild: It's the modaration team choice... [21:51] What does "1215273195 20080705T165315 < Suske_> En tout cas, bravo les zouaves: une question "simple" (peut-être mal posée) et je reçois de retour 3 vannes simplistes du style "mal codé", "jquery, le truc du mec de 12 ans", et puis des "truismes sur le w3c et on a même déjà parlé d'IE6 alors que je questionne sur Konqueror... [21:51] 1215273223 20080705T165343 < Suske_> Ma proposition: si la question ne vous dit rien, dites "je sais pas", c'est mieux :-) [21:51] gah [21:51] ignore that sorry [21:51] What does "t'chao the Zouaves" mean? [21:52] <_r1_> "by the ... " [21:52] <_r1_> how to say [21:52] <_r1_> kind of "assholes" :) [21:52] gah "t'chao les Zouaves" sorry [21:52] <_r1_> less aggressive [21:52] <_r1_> PriceChild: sooo [21:52] It was the kick remove message used on Suske_ [21:53] <[NikO]> it s like see you later or something like that [21:53] <_r1_> PriceChild: you don't trust team and verify the choices they made ? [21:53] <_r1_> ... [21:53] I've got my Ubuntu hat on, just being nosey and looking at how bans are used in the channel. [21:53] _r1_: Sure, and we have done for some time, but it doesn't hurt to check up. All the teams I am on have people checking up on us too. [21:54] <_r1_> ok [21:54] <_r1_> actually, the team works, they construct they participate on ubuntu event [21:54] <_r1_> to help [21:54] <_r1_> aand you ask yourself if they are good... [21:55] <_r1_> really I think (personnaly without any hat :) ) that's not so good [21:55] <_r1_> but as you want [21:55] I'm not accusing you of running the channel badly. [21:56] You're asking freenode for +L, and I'm just having a quick look at how bans are used in the channel. [21:56] _r1_: any channel that asks for +L gets looked at like this [21:56] <[NikO]> we do the max to keep a good 'ambiance' on the channel [21:56] <[NikO]> people help others, no insult, respect [21:57] [NikO]: were you in the channel at the time of the ban I'm enquiring about? [21:57] <_r1_> nalioth: ok [21:58] <[NikO]> no, as i say before, i m away when the bans was put [21:58] whoops sorry [21:58] <[NikO]> sorry for my poor english too :) [21:59] <_r1_> mine too :) [21:59] Your English is much better than my French :) [22:09] <[NikO]> well, perhaps the only solution we have, it s to use the bot to manage bans .. [22:09] <_r1_> :/