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[21:10] <_r1_> I there
[21:10] <nalioth> hi _r1_
[21:10] <_r1_> :)
[21:10] <_r1_> ok then
[21:11] <_r1_> It would be great to have a +L on #ubuntu-fr
[21:11] <nalioth> _r1_: why do you need a +L ?
[21:11] <_r1_> The team have some issue to manage all the banned bot/spammers/...
[21:12] <_r1_> they have try (after my recommend) to keep that without a +L
[21:12] <nalioth> how about clearing some old bans?
[21:12] <_r1_> but they have to purge and reban a lot
[21:12] <_r1_> nalioth: allready done
[21:13] <_r1_> they have tried to handle that but they relly need it apprently... (I'm just owner and I'm not really active in moderation team)
[21:14] <_r1_> I give them some help for internal problems and this kind of issue
[21:14] <nalioth> +L for some ops is "ban and forget" enabling
[21:14] <_r1_> I agree
[21:14] <_r1_> So I'll keep an eye on it
[21:14] <_r1_> can you /j #ubuntu-fr-geeks ?
[21:15] <_r1_> there is the Op team
[21:44] <PriceChild> With 230 users, asking for +L implies that bans are needed on a very large number of people, respective to the channel size.
[21:44] <[NikO]> we check each week, remove bans, and on the same reput them ...
[21:45] <[NikO]> +week
[21:45] <PriceChild> I remember a few requests about the floodbots also, scary.
[21:45] <[NikO]> u-de have it no ?
[21:45] <_r1_> PriceChild: what ?
[21:45] <[NikO]> we put ones
[21:45] <PriceChild> But then again, I notice #ubuntu-offtopic has +L and it has been useful iirc.
[21:46] <PriceChild> (That's a smaller channel, but possibly more volatile)
[21:46] <_r1_> mmm
[21:47] <_r1_> really I don't understand why you are so hard to convice to put a +L on the u-fr chan
[21:47] <[NikO]> u-fr moderators have discussion about +L each week, that s only the second time we ask for it
[21:48] <_r1_> I reapeat that I'm not in "really" the moderator team
[21:48] <_r1_> If they ask me to act for them
[21:48] <_r1_> It's beacause they have a real problem
[21:49] <_r1_> then I'll be honnest, they start to think that there is a problem between you and them :/
[21:49] <_r1_> I'm not a part of any
[21:49] <_r1_> but It would be great to restore communications :p
[21:50] <PriceChild> What was Suske_ kickbanned for earlier?
[21:50] <[NikO]> i was away at the moment, i can't answer
[21:51] <_r1_> PriceChild: mmm why this question ?
[21:51] <_r1_> PriceChild: It's the modaration team choice...
[21:51] <PriceChild> What does "1215273195 20080705T165315 < Suske_> En tout cas, bravo les zouaves: une question "simple" (peut-être mal posée) et je reçois de retour 3 vannes simplistes  du style "mal codé", "jquery, le truc du mec de 12 ans", et puis des "truismes sur le w3c et on a même déjà parlé d'IE6  alors que je questionne sur Konqueror...
[21:51] <PriceChild> 1215273223 20080705T165343 < Suske_> Ma proposition: si la question ne vous dit rien, dites "je sais pas", c'est mieux :-)
[21:51] <PriceChild> gah
[21:51] <PriceChild> ignore that sorry
[21:51] <PriceChild> What does "t'chao the Zouaves" mean?
[21:52] <_r1_> "by the ... "
[21:52] <_r1_> how to say
[21:52] <_r1_> kind of "assholes" :)
[21:52] <PriceChild> gah "t'chao les Zouaves" sorry
[21:52] <_r1_> less aggressive
[21:52] <_r1_> PriceChild: sooo
[21:52] <PriceChild> It was the kick remove message used on Suske_
[21:53] <[NikO]> it s like see you later or something like that
[21:53] <_r1_> PriceChild: you don't trust team and verify the choices they made ?
[21:53] <_r1_> ...
[21:53] <PriceChild> I've got my Ubuntu hat on, just being nosey and looking at how bans are used in the channel.
[21:53] <PriceChild> _r1_: Sure, and we have done for some time, but it doesn't hurt to check up. All the teams I am on have people checking up on us too.
[21:54] <_r1_> ok
[21:54] <_r1_> actually, the team works, they construct they participate on ubuntu event
[21:54] <_r1_> to help
[21:54] <_r1_> aand you ask yourself if they are good...
[21:55] <_r1_> really I think (personnaly without any hat :) ) that's not so good
[21:55] <_r1_> but as you want
[21:55] <PriceChild> I'm not accusing you of running the channel badly.
[21:56] <PriceChild> You're asking freenode for +L, and I'm just having a quick look at how bans are used in the channel.
[21:56] <nalioth> _r1_: any channel that asks for +L gets looked at like this
[21:56] <[NikO]> we do the max to keep a good 'ambiance' on the channel
[21:56] <[NikO]> people help others, no insult, respect
[21:57] <PriceChild> [NikO]: were you in the channel at the time of the ban I'm enquiring about?
[21:57] <_r1_> nalioth: ok
[21:58] <[NikO]> no, as i say before, i m away when the bans was put
[21:58] <PriceChild> whoops sorry
[21:58] <[NikO]> sorry for my poor english too :)
[21:59] <_r1_> mine too :)
[21:59] <PriceChild> Your English is much better than my French :)
[22:09] <[NikO]> well, perhaps the only solution we have, it s to use the bot to manage bans ..
[22:09] <_r1_> :/