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billeniumFor some reason my quote key looks like this ¨ instead of a normal one... Whats wrong?03:06
macobillenium: you're using international keyboard with dead keys or with altgr keys then03:07
macohit altgr (right alt) along with the quote to get the normal ones03:08
macobillenium: still here?03:11
billeniumoh sorry...03:14
billeniumHow can i change it?03:15
billeniumI think i changed it once... but it changed back after reboot03:15
macobillenium: umm...i dont use xubuntu03:18
macowherever the keyboard settings thing is03:18
billeniumyeah03:22
billeniumbut i have no clue what to change it to03:22
crimsunnon-int'l03:23
maconormal US if that's what you use03:24
billeniumAh good i got it03:28
billeniumSometimes on restart it changes...03:28
billeniumHow do i stop that?03:29
macoum, it shouldn't.  perhaps from the login screen it might be different, but your settings *should* be saved03:29
macoif it's not, that'd be a bug03:29
crimsungranted, there have been issues with ~/.config and ~/.cache03:29
billeniumokay03:30
Gabe_G23Could anyone seed the torrent version of xubuntu-8.0.4-desktop-i386.iso? (Not the alternative one)04:18
Gabe_G23Thanks (whoever listened to me) :)04:21
Gabe_G23Anyone else? :( I just dropped back down to 1 peer, wait now 2, but only connected to one. ;(04:25
Gabe_G23And it's only like 1 KB / s :o04:25
genelykwhere  reporting  bugs of  8.10 alpha 1???04:34
macogenelyk: launchpad, where all bugs go...04:36
genelykokzz04:36
RedianCould someone assist me with VMware player?05:18
cody-somervilleRedian, just ask your question05:39
cody-somervilleand then wait :)05:39
Redianlol I did :)05:40
Redianoh05:40
RedianI guess that's not really a question05:40
RedianI just figured if I didn't get a response, it probably wasn't worth it05:40
RedianCould someone help me in getting the config right for VmWare Player on an Eee_pc running xubuntu?05:41
RhorseRedian, have you tried the #Eeepc channel?05:53
Rediano.0 Didn't know there was one.05:53
RhorseRedian, having no familiirity with either eeepc or vmware player I couldn't help you. 8 )05:54
RedianRhorse: thanks, I just asked over there. I don't think it'll be much help. I'm doing this for my brother. I got him a zune for his birthday, and he threw a fit because its not free as in freedom....so I'm trying to get it working, or at least figure out how. I've used vmware player before for my zune, so I was trying to get it working on his Eee pc. Problem is it just died, so I can't get on it to try anything XD05:56
RhorseRedian, yea, you may want to ask on usenet.  alt.os.linux.ubuntu is often very helpful.  No GoogleGroups you need a newsreader.06:03
RedianRhorse: link?06:04
Rhorseoh geez, I doubt your browsers is set up for news://alt.os.linux.ubuntu.  You need a reader.06:05
RedianRhorse: Argh, whatever, I'ma push this to the back of my mind for now and get back to coding, thanks for letting me know about the Eee pc channel :)06:08
Rhorsetake care06:08
houbysofthi08:53
zoredachehello08:54
nikolamWhen I insert CD or USB drive, I get 2 Thunar winows open. Why is that?09:00
TheSheepnikolam: because you have two thunars running for some reason09:06
TheSheepnikolam: kill one and save session09:06
nikolamhow to save session09:06
TheSheepcheck the 'save session' checkbox when logging out09:07
nikolama-ha09:07
nikolamSo kill it with kill command?09:07
TheSheepor with system monitor09:07
nikolamok, when i do it, what then09:07
TheSheepyou save session without thunar running, or with just one, then when you log in you have always only one thunar running (possibly displaying many windows)09:08
nikolamok will do that and i will come back09:09
nikolam10x cu09:09
bobbycsup guys i got a problem at startup... the screen stays blank and i cant do anything at all. im now writing over an older kernel version. any suggestions how to fix it?12:05
bobbycthanks12:12
ecmicroI would reinstall,  but that's just me12:17
houbysoftmaybe your root filesystem can't be mounted or something, I would check the /etc/fstab file, and rewrite it a little if necessary12:19
ecmicrowhat's the best way to "clean up" an installation after switching from ubuntu to xubuntu?13:22
arf`ecmicro: what do you mean by "clean up" ?13:54
ecmicroarf`, well I followed a tutorial that walked me through switiching my ubuntu installation to xubuntu but it didn't really detail how to clean up the original ubuntu installation, ie, remove ubuntu-desktop13:58
arf`ecmicro: it may depends on the way you used to install xubuntu13:59
arf`ecmicro: anyway, "sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop" may do a part of the job13:59
ecmicroah13:59
ecmicrook I'll try it14:00
arf`ecmicro: be careful14:00
ecmicrowill be14:01
arf`ecmicro: if you used aptitude to install xubuntu, this "purge" operation could work, cause aptitude will remember the packages needed by xubuntu, and just remove the unused dependancy of ubuntu-desktop14:02
arf`uh14:02
thebluehi all.14:11
houbysofthi14:16
xTheSaintxsudo apt-get tor, but i dont see it installed anywere...14:22
xTheSaintxsudo apt-get tor, but i dont see it installed anywere.14:28
xTheSaintxcan anyone help?14:28
arf`what a patience...14:30
Gabe_G23Can someone please seed xubuntu-8.0.4-desktop-i386.iso torrent file? :( [not the alternative one]15:07
Aquinahy!15:31
shanemorning all,i want to install nero for my burner but it is micro will wine install it and on start of nero will wine kick in each time?how does that work16:41
Odd-rationalethere is nero for linux.16:41
Odd-rationalehttp://gnomefiles.org/app.php/NeroLinux16:42
shanethanks Odd-rationale havint seen yah in a while how yah been16:42
Odd-rationalenot too bad...16:43
Odd-rationalemake sure you download the .deb binary.16:43
Odd-rationalei think only the trial version is free...16:43
Odd-rationalebtw, you might want to try native linux software like k3b or brasero... might be better...16:44
shanei have brasero but if im not corect nero will also convert,brasero is sincing the vid with aud to well16:49
Odd-rationalewhat do you need to convert?16:50
shanejust avi16:50
Odd-rationaleavi to dvd?16:51
shanei try and burn them as they come down but it wont fit on a 4.7gig dvd16:51
shaneyah i have devede but im thinkin that might be were the sink probs are16:51
Odd-rationalewell, you can try nerolinux as see if that helps..16:52
shaneyah im just installing now, i hope its what im after but if not ill look around for a new converter16:53
shanenope nero doesnt convert either16:58
shaneis devede the only converter for avi to dvd17:07
TheSheepshane: no, you can use mencoder afaik, google for examples17:08
shanek ty TheSheep17:08
puboHi, anybody with xubuntu spanish?17:39
Odd-rationale!es | pubo17:58
ubottupubo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:58
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puboOdd-rationale, I know, but in #ubuntu-es nobody uses XFCE :(18:01
Odd-rationaleoh... i see...18:02
MacGyverNLIf I want to resize (increase) the /home partition using gparted, I need to copy /home first to another location, comment out the /home rule from fstab, reboot, move /hometmp to /home, start X, resize the partition, deleten /home/*, uncomment the line in fstab and mount /home, correct?18:06
floating=D that sounds complicated18:07
MacGyverNLIt is, but the laptop I want to do it on can't boot from CD anymore.18:08
MacGyverNLAny other sensible way?18:08
floatingwell, im no good to answer to that but maybe someone come comment. have you checked google18:09
MacGyverNLEvery answer to the question "resize active disk" involves a live CD at some point.18:09
floatingwhat happens if you just resize the partition from other OS18:10
floatingor just resize in xubuntu.. guess that /home is in use somehow so cant do it but from windows18:11
floatingbut i dont take into account many things.. never resized in nix18:11
MacGyverNLIt's a single boot system.18:12
TheSheepMacGyverNL: you don't have to copy the home18:12
MacGyverNLOnly thing I could do is take out the hard disk, hook it up to another system, boot gparted liveCD from that system.18:12
MacGyverNLTheSheep: Won't that give me X start errors and login failures?18:13
TheSheepMacGyverNL: just unmount and create an empty home directory owned by you18:13
TheSheepMacGyverNL: but you don't even have to do that, as you don't have to reboot18:14
MacGyverNLTheSheep: umount command says the drive is busy. Can I just forcibly umount without problems?18:14
TheSheepMacGyverNL: you can boot in recovery mode and just resize the partition18:14
MacGyverNLAh.18:15
TheSheepMacGyverNL: or create another user that has home directory outside of /home18:15
MacGyverNLUsing...?18:15
TheSheepuseradd -m -d /nothome18:16
TheSheepuseradd -m -d /nothome someuser18:16
TheSheepthen change the user's password, give him permission to use sudo, log out, log in as that user, umount home, resize it, mount it18:16
TheSheeplogout and log in as your normal user18:17
MacGyverNLI'll check that.18:17
MacGyverNLThanks :)18:17
MacGyverNLIs the gparted error Failed to mount "1G Volume".18:52
MacGyverNLorg.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-fixed auth_admin_keep_always <-- (action, result). a bug or a configuration problem on my end?18:52
MacGyverNLExcuse the unexpected \n18:52
TheSheepMacGyverNL: can you try mounting it from terminal with mount?18:58
MacGyverNLTheSheep: I have no idea which volume it's talking about, to be honest.19:13
zoredacheit almost looks like a usb device19:15
MacGyverNLThe only USB device I've got hooked up is my mouse.19:15
MacGyverNLHmm.19:45
MacGyverNLhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/220953 <-- That's the bug I'm experiencing.19:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 220953 in gparted "(xubuntu 8.04rc) Failed to mount various units" [Undecided,New]19:45
nikolamhi.21:03
nikolamHow do you people search for files on your system?21:03
nikolamWhat tool do you use to search , for instance files changed after some date or by size or by name21:03
_rogerio_hi21:10
StevenXI just installed compiz-fusion, and it is working fine except for one thing. My application switcher, etc. is not working.21:10
StevenXfor example, alt+tab does nothing, and I've already reverted to the default layout.21:10
Stroganoffnikolam: in xubuntu i use catfish21:37
nikolamStroganoff, And What tool have GUI for that21:38
Stroganoffit is a gui21:38
Stroganofffor the common tools21:38
nikolami use catfish gui but there is no filtering by date, size, etc21:39
zoredachenikolam: find usually is prety good if you don't need to search the entire filesystem21:39
nikolamI am horrified with those search engines like Beagle, they used to halt my machine with "indexing"21:40
nikolamzoredache, What gui you are using, catfish?21:40
zoredacheno gui... I just search froma terminal21:41
nikolama want a gui.21:43
MacGyverNLHow can I browse a windows workgroup network from xubuntu?21:44
MacGyverNL"Open the Computer Menu, then click on "Network". You'll see a "Windows network" icon, open it." <-- I don't.21:44
zoredacheMacGyverNL: there are several tools, but one of the more popular tools is Fusesmb21:44
zoredachehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb21:45
MacGyverNLIs fusesmb what's used for the "Windows Network" browsing in Ubuntu/gnome?21:46
zoredacheno...  The Nautilus filemanager has SMB support built in...  Thunar doesn't do this21:46
MacGyverNLAh, okay.21:47
nikolamthere is some plugin for thunar for that21:51
rockyrockhey guys21:53
rockyrockI'm new to xubuntu21:54
rockyrockI just want to ask how can i add the Terminal to the Panel?21:54
zoredacheright click on the panel and choose add new item...  You'll get a list, choose 'launcher'.21:55
nikolamYou can add qicklauncher with right-click on panel21:55
zoredachein the lanucher details set the run command to be 'xfce4-terminal'21:55
nikolamand then add xfce4-terminal comand to quicklauncher21:55
nikolam:)21:56
rockyrockthnx21:59
rockyrockguys how do u know these things?? If i want to be like u what should i read??21:59
nikolamI was just right-click on panel upon install. :)22:00
rockyrockI have another question, i have Ubuntu on another machine and there is Computer icon inside it, but why there is no Computer icon in xubuntu?22:01
zoredacherockyrock: read the docks, hang out in this channel and watch other people asking questions, read lots of howtos on the web.  Setup a system with no data where you can play around and not worry about loosing things22:01
rockyrockit's much different than Ubuntu22:02
zoredacheXFCE isn't gnome.  They have different features, and work differently22:02
nikolamYou can make it if you like. You can right-click on desktop, select Create launcher and add comman, like thunar / or thunar /media or so22:02
rockyrockis xfce as powerful as gnome?22:03
zoredacheit would depend on how you define powerful.  But the answer is probably 'no;22:04
zoredachexfce is developed as a light-weight system.  That is they don't try and add every bell and wistle that a person would want.22:04
rockyrocki have a stupid question ;p How do i pronounce XFCE?? is it like X - F - C - E???22:05
nikolami personally use pcmanfm file manager22:06
nikolamI like xfce more beacouse i can reconfigure to look like i want22:06
nikolamalso you can use gnome panel add-ons using XfApplet plugin22:06
rockyrockHow do i pronounce XFCE?? is it like X - F - C - E???22:08
zoredacheyou don't need to repeat yourself...22:09
zoredache!repeat | rockyrock22:09
ubotturockyrock: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience22:09
Genelykammm,,,,,  Xfce XD!22:09
rockyrockthnx 4 everything22:10
nikolamhttp://www.forvo.com/word/xfce/22:11
PsynoKhi0hi, any updated change log for 8.04.1 for xubuntu? I've only found the one for plain ubuntu so far22:12
zoredacheFor the most part everything you see in the ubuntu change log applies to Xubuntu22:13
zoredacheI think the biggest reason they did the 8.04.1 was to release CDs that didn't have the openssl/ssh issue22:14
PsynoKhi0ok22:15
PsynoKhi0and ff3 final I guess :)22:15
zoredacheYeah.  It is mostly just a security/bug fix release.22:16
PsynoKhi0well darn, if MS sent me a new XP cd free of charge everytime they release a service pack...22:17
nikolamMacGyverNL, : see pyNeighborhood22:17
PsynoKhi0btw have the hardware req increased since gutsy?22:22
Stroganoffdue to a bug you need at least 64mb ram22:23
Stroganoff..for installation22:24
Stroganoffbut you can upgrade from gutsy with 64mb22:24
PsynoKhi0ok... asking since the homepage says "192 MB to run", and I've had issues with hardy on a system with 128MB,  gutsy works fine though22:25
PsynoKhi0basically, anything somehow taxing ends up in a system lockup22:31
PsynoKhi0well... "taxing"... as far as playing an avi file is22:33
PsynoKhi0dmesg had nothing valuable, Xorg.0.log had something about "DRIunlock called when not locked" but google failed me heh22:37
PsynoKhi0only substancial lead was something under /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power22:38
PsynoKhi0gutsy has nice C1/C2 states with promote/demote... hardy showed active state C022:38
PsynoKhi0that's as far as I got prior to downgrading22:39
PsynoKhi0(rather after doing so)22:40

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