[03:06] <billenium> For some reason my quote key looks like this ¨ instead of a normal one... Whats wrong?
[03:07] <maco> billenium: you're using international keyboard with dead keys or with altgr keys then
[03:08] <maco> hit altgr (right alt) along with the quote to get the normal ones
[03:11] <maco> billenium: still here?
[03:14] <billenium> oh sorry...
[03:15] <billenium> How can i change it?
[03:15] <billenium> I think i changed it once... but it changed back after reboot
[03:18] <maco> billenium: umm...i dont use xubuntu
[03:18] <maco> wherever the keyboard settings thing is
[03:22] <billenium> yeah
[03:22] <billenium> but i have no clue what to change it to
[03:23] <crimsun> non-int'l
[03:24] <maco> normal US if that's what you use
[03:28] <billenium> Ah good i got it
[03:28] <billenium> Sometimes on restart it changes...
[03:29] <billenium> How do i stop that?
[03:29] <maco> um, it shouldn't.  perhaps from the login screen it might be different, but your settings *should* be saved
[03:29] <maco> if it's not, that'd be a bug
[03:29] <crimsun> granted, there have been issues with ~/.config and ~/.cache
[03:30] <billenium> okay
[04:18] <Gabe_G23> Could anyone seed the torrent version of xubuntu-8.0.4-desktop-i386.iso? (Not the alternative one)
[04:21] <Gabe_G23> Thanks (whoever listened to me) :)
[04:25] <Gabe_G23> Anyone else? :( I just dropped back down to 1 peer, wait now 2, but only connected to one. ;(
[04:25] <Gabe_G23> And it's only like 1 KB / s :o
[04:34] <genelyk> where  reporting  bugs of  8.10 alpha 1???
[04:36] <maco> genelyk: launchpad, where all bugs go...
[04:36] <genelyk> okzz
[05:18] <Redian> Could someone assist me with VMware player?
[05:39] <cody-somerville> Redian, just ask your question
[05:39] <cody-somerville> and then wait :)
[05:40] <Redian> lol I did :)
[05:40] <Redian> oh
[05:40] <Redian> I guess that's not really a question
[05:40] <Redian> I just figured if I didn't get a response, it probably wasn't worth it
[05:41] <Redian> Could someone help me in getting the config right for VmWare Player on an Eee_pc running xubuntu?
[05:53] <Rhorse> Redian, have you tried the #Eeepc channel?
[05:53] <Redian> o.0 Didn't know there was one.
[05:54] <Rhorse> Redian, having no familiirity with either eeepc or vmware player I couldn't help you. 8 )
[05:56] <Redian> Rhorse: thanks, I just asked over there. I don't think it'll be much help. I'm doing this for my brother. I got him a zune for his birthday, and he threw a fit because its not free as in freedom....so I'm trying to get it working, or at least figure out how. I've used vmware player before for my zune, so I was trying to get it working on his Eee pc. Problem is it just died, so I can't get on it to try anything XD
[06:03] <Rhorse> Redian, yea, you may want to ask on usenet.  alt.os.linux.ubuntu is often very helpful.  No GoogleGroups you need a newsreader.
[06:04] <Redian> Rhorse: link?
[06:05] <Rhorse> oh geez, I doubt your browsers is set up for news://alt.os.linux.ubuntu.  You need a reader.
[06:08] <Redian> Rhorse: Argh, whatever, I'ma push this to the back of my mind for now and get back to coding, thanks for letting me know about the Eee pc channel :)
[06:08] <Rhorse> take care
[08:53] <houbysoft> hi
[08:54] <zoredache> hello
[09:00] <nikolam> When I insert CD or USB drive, I get 2 Thunar winows open. Why is that?
[09:06] <TheSheep> nikolam: because you have two thunars running for some reason
[09:06] <TheSheep> nikolam: kill one and save session
[09:06] <nikolam> how to save session
[09:07] <TheSheep> check the 'save session' checkbox when logging out
[09:07] <nikolam> a-ha
[09:07] <nikolam> So kill it with kill command?
[09:07] <TheSheep> or with system monitor
[09:07] <nikolam> ok, when i do it, what then
[09:08] <TheSheep> you save session without thunar running, or with just one, then when you log in you have always only one thunar running (possibly displaying many windows)
[09:09] <nikolam> ok will do that and i will come back
[09:09] <nikolam> 10x cu
[12:05] <bobbyc> sup guys i got a problem at startup... the screen stays blank and i cant do anything at all. im now writing over an older kernel version. any suggestions how to fix it?
[12:12] <bobbyc> thanks
[12:17] <ecmicro> I would reinstall,  but that's just me
[12:19] <houbysoft> maybe your root filesystem can't be mounted or something, I would check the /etc/fstab file, and rewrite it a little if necessary
[13:22] <ecmicro> what's the best way to "clean up" an installation after switching from ubuntu to xubuntu?
[13:54] <arf`> ecmicro: what do you mean by "clean up" ?
[13:58] <ecmicro> arf`, well I followed a tutorial that walked me through switiching my ubuntu installation to xubuntu but it didn't really detail how to clean up the original ubuntu installation, ie, remove ubuntu-desktop
[13:59] <arf`> ecmicro: it may depends on the way you used to install xubuntu
[13:59] <arf`> ecmicro: anyway, "sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop" may do a part of the job
[13:59] <ecmicro> ah
[14:00] <ecmicro> ok I'll try it
[14:00] <arf`> ecmicro: be careful
[14:01] <ecmicro> will be
[14:02] <arf`> ecmicro: if you used aptitude to install xubuntu, this "purge" operation could work, cause aptitude will remember the packages needed by xubuntu, and just remove the unused dependancy of ubuntu-desktop
[14:02] <arf`> uh
[14:11] <theblue> hi all.
[14:16] <houbysoft> hi
[14:22] <xTheSaintx> sudo apt-get tor, but i dont see it installed anywere...
[14:28] <xTheSaintx> sudo apt-get tor, but i dont see it installed anywere.
[14:28] <xTheSaintx> can anyone help?
[14:30] <arf`> what a patience...
[15:07] <Gabe_G23> Can someone please seed xubuntu-8.0.4-desktop-i386.iso torrent file? :( [not the alternative one]
[15:31] <Aquina> hy!
[16:41] <shane> morning all,i want to install nero for my burner but it is micro will wine install it and on start of nero will wine kick in each time?how does that work
[16:41] <Odd-rationale> there is nero for linux.
[16:42] <Odd-rationale> http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/NeroLinux
[16:42] <shane> thanks Odd-rationale havint seen yah in a while how yah been
[16:43] <Odd-rationale> not too bad...
[16:43] <Odd-rationale> make sure you download the .deb binary.
[16:43] <Odd-rationale> i think only the trial version is free...
[16:44] <Odd-rationale> btw, you might want to try native linux software like k3b or brasero... might be better...
[16:49] <shane> i have brasero but if im not corect nero will also convert,brasero is sincing the vid with aud to well
[16:50] <Odd-rationale> what do you need to convert?
[16:50] <shane> just avi
[16:51] <Odd-rationale> avi to dvd?
[16:51] <shane> i try and burn them as they come down but it wont fit on a 4.7gig dvd
[16:51] <shane> yah i have devede but im thinkin that might be were the sink probs are
[16:52] <Odd-rationale> well, you can try nerolinux as see if that helps..
[16:53] <shane> yah im just installing now, i hope its what im after but if not ill look around for a new converter
[16:58] <shane> nope nero doesnt convert either
[17:07] <shane> is devede the only converter for avi to dvd
[17:08] <TheSheep> shane: no, you can use mencoder afaik, google for examples
[17:08] <shane> k ty TheSheep
[17:39] <pubo> Hi, anybody with xubuntu spanish?
[17:58] <Odd-rationale> !es | pubo
[18:01] <pubo> Odd-rationale, I know, but in #ubuntu-es nobody uses XFCE :(
[18:02] <Odd-rationale> oh... i see...
[18:06] <MacGyverNL> If I want to resize (increase) the /home partition using gparted, I need to copy /home first to another location, comment out the /home rule from fstab, reboot, move /hometmp to /home, start X, resize the partition, deleten /home/*, uncomment the line in fstab and mount /home, correct?
[18:07] <floating> =D that sounds complicated
[18:08] <MacGyverNL> It is, but the laptop I want to do it on can't boot from CD anymore.
[18:08] <MacGyverNL> Any other sensible way?
[18:09] <floating> well, im no good to answer to that but maybe someone come comment. have you checked google
[18:09] <MacGyverNL> Every answer to the question "resize active disk" involves a live CD at some point.
[18:10] <floating> what happens if you just resize the partition from other OS
[18:11] <floating> or just resize in xubuntu.. guess that /home is in use somehow so cant do it but from windows
[18:11] <floating> but i dont take into account many things.. never resized in nix
[18:12] <MacGyverNL> It's a single boot system.
[18:12] <TheSheep> MacGyverNL: you don't have to copy the home
[18:12] <MacGyverNL> Only thing I could do is take out the hard disk, hook it up to another system, boot gparted liveCD from that system.
[18:13] <MacGyverNL> TheSheep: Won't that give me X start errors and login failures?
[18:13] <TheSheep> MacGyverNL: just unmount and create an empty home directory owned by you
[18:14] <TheSheep> MacGyverNL: but you don't even have to do that, as you don't have to reboot
[18:14] <MacGyverNL> TheSheep: umount command says the drive is busy. Can I just forcibly umount without problems?
[18:14] <TheSheep> MacGyverNL: you can boot in recovery mode and just resize the partition
[18:15] <MacGyverNL> Ah.
[18:15] <TheSheep> MacGyverNL: or create another user that has home directory outside of /home
[18:15] <MacGyverNL> Using...?
[18:16] <TheSheep> useradd -m -d /nothome
[18:16] <TheSheep> useradd -m -d /nothome someuser
[18:16] <TheSheep> then change the user's password, give him permission to use sudo, log out, log in as that user, umount home, resize it, mount it
[18:17] <TheSheep> logout and log in as your normal user
[18:17] <MacGyverNL> I'll check that.
[18:17] <MacGyverNL> Thanks :)
[18:52] <MacGyverNL> Is the gparted error Failed to mount "1G Volume".
[18:52] <MacGyverNL> org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-fixed auth_admin_keep_always <-- (action, result). a bug or a configuration problem on my end?
[18:52] <MacGyverNL> Excuse the unexpected \n
[18:58] <TheSheep> MacGyverNL: can you try mounting it from terminal with mount?
[19:13] <MacGyverNL> TheSheep: I have no idea which volume it's talking about, to be honest.
[19:15] <zoredache> it almost looks like a usb device
[19:15] <MacGyverNL> The only USB device I've got hooked up is my mouse.
[19:45] <MacGyverNL> Hmm.
[19:45] <MacGyverNL> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/220953 <-- That's the bug I'm experiencing.
[21:03] <nikolam> hi.
[21:03] <nikolam> How do you people search for files on your system?
[21:03] <nikolam> What tool do you use to search , for instance files changed after some date or by size or by name
[21:10] <_rogerio_> hi
[21:10] <StevenX> I just installed compiz-fusion, and it is working fine except for one thing. My application switcher, etc. is not working.
[21:10] <StevenX> for example, alt+tab does nothing, and I've already reverted to the default layout.
[21:37] <Stroganoff> nikolam: in xubuntu i use catfish
[21:38] <nikolam> Stroganoff, And What tool have GUI for that
[21:38] <Stroganoff> it is a gui
[21:38] <Stroganoff> for the common tools
[21:39] <nikolam> i use catfish gui but there is no filtering by date, size, etc
[21:39] <zoredache> nikolam: find usually is prety good if you don't need to search the entire filesystem
[21:40] <nikolam> I am horrified with those search engines like Beagle, they used to halt my machine with "indexing"
[21:40] <nikolam> zoredache, What gui you are using, catfish?
[21:41] <zoredache> no gui... I just search froma terminal
[21:43] <nikolam> a want a gui.
[21:44] <MacGyverNL> How can I browse a windows workgroup network from xubuntu?
[21:44] <MacGyverNL> "Open the Computer Menu, then click on "Network". You'll see a "Windows network" icon, open it." <-- I don't.
[21:44] <zoredache> MacGyverNL: there are several tools, but one of the more popular tools is Fusesmb
[21:45] <zoredache> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[21:46] <MacGyverNL> Is fusesmb what's used for the "Windows Network" browsing in Ubuntu/gnome?
[21:46] <zoredache> no...  The Nautilus filemanager has SMB support built in...  Thunar doesn't do this
[21:47] <MacGyverNL> Ah, okay.
[21:51] <nikolam> there is some plugin for thunar for that
[21:53] <rockyrock> hey guys
[21:54] <rockyrock> I'm new to xubuntu
[21:54] <rockyrock> I just want to ask how can i add the Terminal to the Panel?
[21:55] <zoredache> right click on the panel and choose add new item...  You'll get a list, choose 'launcher'.
[21:55] <nikolam> You can add qicklauncher with right-click on panel
[21:55] <zoredache> in the lanucher details set the run command to be 'xfce4-terminal'
[21:55] <nikolam> and then add xfce4-terminal comand to quicklauncher
[21:56] <nikolam> :)
[21:59] <rockyrock> thnx
[21:59] <rockyrock> guys how do u know these things?? If i want to be like u what should i read??
[22:00] <nikolam> I was just right-click on panel upon install. :)
[22:01] <rockyrock> I have another question, i have Ubuntu on another machine and there is Computer icon inside it, but why there is no Computer icon in xubuntu?
[22:01] <zoredache> rockyrock: read the docks, hang out in this channel and watch other people asking questions, read lots of howtos on the web.  Setup a system with no data where you can play around and not worry about loosing things
[22:02] <rockyrock> it's much different than Ubuntu
[22:02] <zoredache> XFCE isn't gnome.  They have different features, and work differently
[22:02] <nikolam> You can make it if you like. You can right-click on desktop, select Create launcher and add comman, like thunar / or thunar /media or so
[22:03] <rockyrock> is xfce as powerful as gnome?
[22:04] <zoredache> it would depend on how you define powerful.  But the answer is probably 'no;
[22:04] <zoredache> xfce is developed as a light-weight system.  That is they don't try and add every bell and wistle that a person would want.
[22:05] <rockyrock> i have a stupid question ;p How do i pronounce XFCE?? is it like X - F - C - E???
[22:06] <nikolam> i personally use pcmanfm file manager
[22:06] <nikolam> I like xfce more beacouse i can reconfigure to look like i want
[22:06] <nikolam> also you can use gnome panel add-ons using XfApplet plugin
[22:08] <rockyrock> How do i pronounce XFCE?? is it like X - F - C - E???
[22:09] <zoredache> you don't need to repeat yourself...
[22:09] <zoredache> !repeat | rockyrock
[22:09] <Genelyk> ammm,,,,,  Xfce XD!
[22:10] <rockyrock> thnx 4 everything
[22:11] <nikolam> http://www.forvo.com/word/xfce/
[22:12] <PsynoKhi0> hi, any updated change log for 8.04.1 for xubuntu? I've only found the one for plain ubuntu so far
[22:13] <zoredache> For the most part everything you see in the ubuntu change log applies to Xubuntu
[22:14] <zoredache> I think the biggest reason they did the 8.04.1 was to release CDs that didn't have the openssl/ssh issue
[22:15] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[22:15] <PsynoKhi0> and ff3 final I guess :)
[22:16] <zoredache> Yeah.  It is mostly just a security/bug fix release.
[22:17] <PsynoKhi0> well darn, if MS sent me a new XP cd free of charge everytime they release a service pack...
[22:17] <nikolam> MacGyverNL, : see pyNeighborhood
[22:22] <PsynoKhi0> btw have the hardware req increased since gutsy?
[22:23] <Stroganoff> due to a bug you need at least 64mb ram
[22:24] <Stroganoff> ..for installation
[22:24] <Stroganoff> but you can upgrade from gutsy with 64mb
[22:25] <PsynoKhi0> ok... asking since the homepage says "192 MB to run", and I've had issues with hardy on a system with 128MB,  gutsy works fine though
[22:31] <PsynoKhi0> basically, anything somehow taxing ends up in a system lockup
[22:33] <PsynoKhi0> well... "taxing"... as far as playing an avi file is
[22:37] <PsynoKhi0> dmesg had nothing valuable, Xorg.0.log had something about "DRIunlock called when not locked" but google failed me heh
[22:38] <PsynoKhi0> only substancial lead was something under /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power
[22:38] <PsynoKhi0> gutsy has nice C1/C2 states with promote/demote... hardy showed active state C0
[22:39] <PsynoKhi0> that's as far as I got prior to downgrading
[22:40] <PsynoKhi0> (rather after doing so)