/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/06/#kubuntu-devel.txt

JontheEchidnabzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "sftp://echidnaman@bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-users/jockey/jockey-kde": Unable to import paramiko (required for sftp support): No module named paramiko00:00
JontheEchidnaThat was from using: bzr push sftp://echidnaman@bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-users/jockey/jockey-kde00:01
=== papabean_ is now known as papabean
JontheEchidnaAs the wiki suggested00:01
papabeanRiddell had me use bzr+ssh in place of sftp00:01
papabeanI've pushed two changes today using that method00:01
JontheEchidnaOh, that works00:02
JontheEchidnayay pushed :D00:02
papabeanOk.  Now it's time to see about Qt4 Designer and pyKDE4.  In order to get language-selector properly ported, the UI has to be modded, too.00:09
JontheEchidnaHope it works for you...00:10
JontheEchidnaApps install their icons to /usr/share/icons/hicolor right?00:36
papabeanNot sure.00:36
papabeanCould try dpkg -L on another app.00:36
papabeandpkg -L | grep icons00:36
JontheEchidnayup, hicolor00:38
papabeanDesigner launched and ran, but I don't think it's what I need.00:48
papabeanpykdeuic4 is what I need.00:48
JontheEchidnaWhat version is python-kde4 at for you?00:48
JontheEchidnaHow to I get it to link to my LP name in the commit log? https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-users/jockey/jockey-kde00:55
papabean4.0.83+svn823405-0ubuntu6~hardy1~ppa1101:00
papabeanNot sure to the second question.01:00
JontheEchidnaHmm, if qt designer works for you I wonder why it does'nt for me....01:01
* JontheEchidna purges/reinstalles01:01
JontheEchidnait works!01:02
papabeanAwesome.01:10
* JontheEchidna supposes he should subscribe to yet-another-mailing-list01:42
JontheEchidna:(02:20
JontheEchidnaKonversation and KNetwork manager are routinely not being embedded in the systray02:21
JontheEchidnaBe back tomorrow, g'night.03:18
jjessegnight JontheEchidna03:25
=== akonadi is now known as nihui
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/debian/rules at line 26 the configure target starts ... all these not indented things in debian/rules are somewhat like names for these targets (which is whatever happens after that not indented line)11:52
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: so if you call make -f debian/rules clean  - you call in the file debian/rules the target clean, and you can use make because debian/rules files are basically Makefiles11:52
volohello12:01
JontheEchidnaGood morning12:28
JontheEchidnaLiek whoa, my internet connection made it through the nite12:28
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: Like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25418/ ?12:45
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: more like that http://paste.ubuntu.com/25419/12:47
apacheloggerbtw, that cmake command looks a bit shortish ;-)12:48
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: in the install target you also have a semicolon seperated command line12:49
JontheEchidnaWell without needing to set the prefix to anything non-normal it doesn't have to be longish. ;)12:55
JontheEchidnaBah, why did Qt designer work yesterday?13:00
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: default prefix for cmake is /usr/local :P13:13
txwikingerapachelogger: I have fixed the ccmake problem if anyone wants to upload it bug 23945113:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 239451 in cmake "ccmake missing?" [Unknown,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23945113:15
apacheloggertxwikinger: enhance it to provide cmake-gui in it's own package13:15
apacheloggerthe master nixternal will probably upload ;-)13:16
txwikingerseriously?13:16
txwikingerwhat is the cmake-gui?13:16
apacheloggerqt gui for cmake13:17
apacheloggerbasically the qt version of ccmake13:17
txwikingerah13:17
txwikingersome people seemed  little desperate about the missing ccmake13:17
txwikingerwas only a missing build-dep13:17
apacheloggeryes13:18
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: Oh, lol. :x13:19
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: and BUILDDIR doesn't have a cmakelists.txt therefore cmake . ain't gonna work :P13:19
* JontheEchidna is wondering at this point if it would just be easier to just use cbds13:21
JontheEchidnaOh, it would be cmake .. anyway since I'm in a subdirectory...13:23
JontheEchidnanot cmake .13:23
JontheEchidnaSo, the prefix in Intrepid is /usr ?13:24
=== evalles_ is now known as effie_jayx
Xand3rhi15:18
Xand3remm i using now intrepid on my laptop15:19
Xand3r1. question, is the kde the latest or i have to use apachelogger nightbuilds?15:19
Xand3r2. i cant scrol with the tuchpad15:20
Xand3rhow can i get it back?15:20
Hobbsee--> #ubuntu+1 for support?15:20
Xand3rgnaa ok15:20
gnomefreakHobbsee: kde4 is borked in intrepid atleast here i get a kstartup(something)4 error15:38
apacheloggerhm15:38
* apachelogger has debdiff somewhere15:38
gnomefreakif you need give me 20 minutes and i can have exact error15:39
gnomefreakupload is taking forever to finish15:40
ScottK-laptopHobbsee: Xand3r has been helping out with development stuff, so I'd have cut him a break.15:41
gnomefreakScottK-laptop: i pinged crimsun about the flash backport bug for his opinion on what to backport15:42
gnomefreakalien-arena-data uploaded finally15:42
ScottK-laptopGreat.  If I knew the right answer, I'd have suggested it.  I just want to make sure we think it through.15:43
apacheloggerbug 24563115:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245631 in kdebase-workspace "[intrepid KDE4] "Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation"" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24563115:44
gnomefreakthats the error15:50
gnomefreakScottK-laptop: i know it gave me a chance to update it to newest beta anyway :)15:50
Mythor_should 'r-mouse desktop' > 'desktop settings' > 'new theme' be workin in kubuntu intrepid?15:50
gnomefreakapachelogger: your kidding its just a path/naming issue?15:51
gnomefreakfrom .kde4 to .kde15:51
apacheloggergnomefreak: yes16:01
apacheloggeractually it is a conflict16:02
apacheloggerkdelibs already switched from .kde4 to .kde16:02
apacheloggerkdebase didn't16:02
gnomefreakah16:02
gnomefreakim guessing thats why some apps couldnt be installed16:02
gnomefreakstill have dep issues on some16:02
* apachelogger would like to see those16:03
gnomefreaklol i will seee if i can find them again16:04
gnomefreakgive me a few16:04
gnomefreakextragear-plasma kde4-amusements yakuake-kde4 apachelogger here are a few16:10
apacheloggergnomefreak: well what are they issues they are having?16:13
gnomefreakapachelogger: not installible due to dep issues16:13
gnomefreakyakuake-kde4: Depends: konsole-kde4 (>= 4:4.0.0)16:14
gnomefreakthat is one16:14
apacheloggerneeds, rebuild I guess16:14
gnomefreakas for the other 2 its a bit much to paste in here16:14
* apachelogger demands a paste.ubuntu.com integration in every irc client16:15
gnomefreakapachelogger: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/47943016:15
gnomefreakapachelogger: i was working on it16:15
apacheloggerhm16:15
apacheloggerthe amusements needs a deeper look16:15
apacheloggerah16:16
gnomefreakdeeper == 1 more minute i was mozilla was that kind of deeper16:18
* apachelogger is confused by all that deepness16:19
gnomefreakdeepness in mozilla apps take longer than 30 minutes deeper look for you took all of 1 minute16:23
DRebellionWould somebody mind reviewing my package (a Qt IDE)? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=monkeystudio Thanks ;)16:35
gnomefreakDRebellion: best bet would be to wait until tomorrow since its a sunday morning16:38
gnomefreakmost people are off on weekends and try to not be here16:39
DRebelliongnomefreak, been waiting for weeks, but okay I will ask again tomorrow16:39
gnomefreakDRebellion: i havent seen you ask before today but sometimes it takes time to get anyone to look at it, hint ive had packages not looked at for 3 releases of that package16:40
gnomefreakit happens16:40
* gnomefreak doesnt bother with revu much anymore16:40
=== emonkey-t is now known as emonkey
DRebelliongnomefreak, just gets frustrating, especially because it's my first package16:41
apacheloggerthe problem is16:42
apacheloggerit's fairly big16:42
apacheloggerso more difficult to find the time to revu16:42
DRebellionapachelogger, yeah, quite a long build, and then the huge copyright as well.16:43
gnomefreakmozilla apps are around 50mb sources some more some less that was with firefox-2 i dont remember what 3 is16:53
Xand3rhey18:02
Xand3rapachelogger: bist du da?18:07
apacheloggerXand3r: aye18:53
Xand3rhab die neue source oben18:54
Xand3ri have the new source of kwin-style uploaded18:54
Xand3rthe person who build qlix before whants to build up to end, i have said him he will get help here18:56
Xand3rwith with building kdpkg i got the error, that iostream.h will be not found, but this is a part of g++18:57
Xand3rapachelogger: there but no time ? :p19:00
apacheloggerXand3r: a) if you want something form me, you gotta highlight me.. you know how many channels I am in :P19:01
apacheloggerb) up until now I only see information but nothing I could help with ;-)19:01
Xand3remm19:01
Xand3rapachelogger: there are 2 hidden question: 1. can you re view the new source? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kwin-style-crystal 2. what i did wrong with kdpkg http://paste.ubuntu.com/25484/19:05
apacheloggerhmm19:06
apacheloggerisn't iostream.h in some stdc++?19:06
* smarter just discovered bzr bd-do19:07
apacheloggersmarter: what dos that do?19:07
apachelogger*does19:07
apacheloggerhm, dos is everywhere it seems19:07
smartermakes bzr less painfull to use with a package ;)19:08
smarterbzr bd-do --help19:08
smarter(if you already use bzr bd/build-deb)19:08
apacheloggerhrrhrr19:08
* smarter wonders why everybody is not already using a vcs for packaging19:09
apacheloggerit doesn't make sense for most packages19:10
smarterwhy?19:10
apacheloggerwhy would I need vc for a package that is changing once a year and that change is a new upstream release?19:10
smartertrue ;)19:11
smarterbut I think we should use more vcs fun for kde19:11
* apachelogger agrees19:11
Xand3rvcs?19:12
apacheloggerversion control system19:12
smartervirtual control system19:12
smarterbetter ;)19:12
Xand3r^^19:12
smarterlike bazaar, svn, git19:12
* apachelogger wouldn't know what virtual is in that case :P19:12
Xand3ra ok19:12
Xand3rbut why you use vcs not bzr svn or git19:13
smarterbzr IS a vcs19:13
smartervcs is the generic term19:13
apacheloggersmarter: stop confusing my padawan :P19:14
smarter^^'19:14
apacheloggersmarter: are you motu yet?19:14
Xand3rapachelogger: :p19:14
smarterapachelogger: nop19:14
smarterI should probably do what you said I should do and create a page on the wiki on my MOTUs activities19:15
apacheloggertotally19:16
apacheloggeruhh19:16
apacheloggergood ol feisty19:17
apacheloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot037.png19:17
apacheloggerthat almost looks like oxygen with colors *shudder*19:17
Xand3r?19:18
apacheloggerhmm19:18
apacheloggerXand3r: you will have to wait for nixternal or Riddell to upload ... and tell Riddell to move kwin-style-crystal to universe19:19
apacheloggerthere is no reason it should remain in main19:19
apacheloggerother than prevent me from uploading -.-19:19
Xand3rok thx apachelogger19:20
Xand3rapachelogger: you could build a gtk-qt-engine-kde-nightly19:20
apacheloggerno19:20
Xand3rok19:20
Xand3rmy system makes my crazy19:20
smarterhuzzah for linker errors19:21
Xand3rwhat i have to do with my isostream error?19:21
smarterhttp://pastebin.com/m1a270e2a << does anyone know what I could be doing wrong?19:21
apacheloggerhm19:23
apacheloggersmarter: editorfactory doesn't exist in qt4 anymore I think19:23
apacheloggerqitemeditorfactory is there19:24
apacheloggerand Q3EditorFactory19:24
smarterapachelogger: it's using an external lib which provides qeditorfactory19:24
smarterbbl19:24
Xand3rRiddell: please upload http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kwin-style-crystal, in universe, thx19:25
smarter(qcodeedit, which I'm also packagin)19:25
smarter*packaging19:25
apacheloggersmarter: maybe missing an include?19:25
* apachelogger is down to 5 unread mails19:28
apacheloggerhooray19:28
apacheloggerNightrose: how long was that?19:28
* smarter has 1278 to read19:28
apachelogger~1 week?19:28
apacheloggersmarter: I was at 24k or something19:28
Nightroseapachelogger: hehe probably19:28
smarterwow19:28
* Nightrose has 0 unread19:28
Nightroseyay for inboxzero19:29
apacheloggerhrrr19:29
apacheloggerme too19:29
apacheloggeryay19:29
apacheloggerPARTY! :D19:29
Nightrose\o/19:29
smarter\o\19:30
Xand3romg19:30
Xand3ri am happy if i get mails^^19:36
Nightrose*lol* Xand3r  - you will find it more stressful than you want sooner than later19:38
Xand3r^^19:38
Xand3ri don't think so19:38
Nightroseapachelogger: your young padawan needs some mailing list subscriptions...19:39
NightroseI reccomend kde-devel  -core-devel and -commits19:39
Xand3rand why i will get thousand mails?19:40
Nightroseoh and -bugs19:40
Xand3rand why i want to have this mailing lists?19:40
Nightrosewell you said you want to get more emails ;-)19:40
Nightroseand after all those lists are interesting19:41
Xand3remm19:41
Xand3rhmmm19:41
Xand3rsure19:41
Xand3rbut i am lazy19:42
apacheloggerwell19:45
apacheloggerno19:45
apacheloggerXand3r: you should subscribe to19:45
apacheloggerkubuntu-devel19:45
apacheloggerubuntu-devel-announce19:45
Xand3rgnaa19:45
apacheloggerubuntu-motu19:45
apacheloggerubuntu-motu-mentors19:45
Xand3ri will dont understan anything19:46
apacheloggerXand3r: the more you read the easier it gets19:46
Xand3rwhy the mentors? i am no19:47
apacheloggerIIRC that is where quetions are asked19:47
Xand3rIIRC ?19:48
apacheloggerif I recall correctly19:49
* apachelogger plays some vim tetris19:49
* apachelogger sucks at tetris :S19:52
smarterapachelogger: try aptitude's minesweeper ;)19:53
* apachelogger has no aptitude19:54
JontheEchidnahttp://digg.com/linux_unix/KDE4_KWin_has_new_Cube_plugin20:11
JontheEchidnayummy20:11
vorianno cubes!!!!!20:12
apacheloggercubs would be more awesome -.-20:18
vorianclubs?20:19
vorianor spikes, I would dig some spikes20:19
apacheloggerclubs sounds good as well20:20
vorianalthough that is a slick looking cube20:21
Xand3ri have no clue how to solve my kdpk isostream problem, apachelogger you?20:34
Xand3rapachelogger: where i can singn this mailing lists?20:34
vorianhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/20:36
apacheloggerXand3r: not right now20:37
Xand3rapachelogger: ok -.- , i have passed qlix to the guy who asked for, rubberband i need the new source wich is not there, kdpkg i have no clue, kwin-style-cristal is finished, i guess i need something new20:39
apacheloggerXand3r: triage bugs20:39
Xand3rjo20:40
=== toma is now known as toma_
Xand3rapachelogger: the ml are subscribed20:54
apacheloggerXand3r: well, off to the bug triaging then ;-)20:55
Xand3r?20:56
Xand3rkk20:56
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Xand3rRiddell: needs mailody still merging?21:06
Xand3rif i will work on it21:06
apacheloggerXand3r: Riddell is not around, find out yourself :P21:09
Xand3roch21:11
Xand3ron the source site is the 0.5 source, i have here the 1.5 ii think i work on it21:14
Xand3rapachelogger: do you agree?21:16
RiddellXand3r: yeah, go ahead21:16
Xand3rok21:17
Xand3rthx for reply21:17
apacheloggerRiddell: hey, please sponsor the debdiff of bug 24563121:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245631 in kdebase-workspace "[intrepid KDE4] "Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation"" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24563121:18
Xand3ris  there already an mailody 1.5?21:30
Xand3ri dont found one21:30
Xand3ri mean in debian21:30
toma_there is a alfa1, should be in kubuntu21:30
Xand3ri whant to package it so i need the revison of the debian package if there is21:31
Xand3rif not it is no merging it is creating^^21:31
toma_http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mailody-kde4/21:31
toma_the kubuntu package is ok21:32
toma_no idea were debian is with packaging it21:32
Xand3rso why i have to build one?21:32
toma_not for me21:32
toma_nixternal packaged alfa1 which is the latest, so imho there is nothing to do21:33
Xand3rRiddell: nixternal already done it, take his version for the extragears21:33
Riddellthat is only for hardy, not intrepid21:34
Riddellit's also an old version, not the one released with 4.0.8321:34
Xand3rok i build it new21:35
toma_Riddell: there no newer version than alfa121:35
Xand3rhave i to put in the change log of 0.5?21:36
Riddelltoma_: sure there is, here ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.0.83/extragear21:37
apacheloggerRiddell: please kill the yakuake-kde4 source package - I merged it with yakuake which is generating a transitional package21:37
toma_Riddell: that must be a mistake, let me check21:38
toma_Riddell: i dont know why helio has packaged it21:39
toma_Riddell: can i remove it from that folder?21:39
Riddellyou may21:39
RiddellXand3r: ok so ignore the extragear tar and use the one at http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mailody-kde4/ but update the cdb21:40
Riddellupdate the debian/cdbs directory21:40
jjesseafternoon21:40
Riddelltoma_: do you think we should keep the kde 3 mailody for intrepid?21:40
apacheloggerRiddell: ktorrent-kde4 source can also be dropped from intrepid21:40
Xand3rRiddell: ok thx21:41
toma_Riddell: not sure, mailody will probably be ok in general, not sure akonadi will be ok21:41
toma_Riddell: so you might want to keep the 3 version to be safe21:42
RiddellXand3r: so keep the -kde4 in the package name and add Conflicts: mailody to the entry in debian/control21:45
Xand3roh ok21:48
apachelogger*updating ktorrent*22:06
vorian:(22:06
apacheloggerRiddell: btw, do you think it is more helpful for a core-dev application if I file my debdiffs for main pages as bugs?22:07
JontheEchidnaHuh, strangely enough qt3 designer is giving the same results as qt4-designer22:07
JontheEchidna(segfaulting after giving pykde-related errors)22:09
Riddellapachelogger: I expect it's the uploads they look at22:10
apacheloggerok22:11
Xand3rapachelogger: on mylaptop i have now intrepid -.- the mouse behavior changed and the bcm43 dont work22:31
apacheloggerbcm22:32
Xand3ris that caused of the kde or of ubuntu?22:32
apacheloggerubuntu22:32
apacheloggerbcm is nice22:32
Xand3rbecause it worked on hardy22:32
Xand3rapachelogger: bcm is sended from hell22:33
Xand3rRiddell: pleas upload http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kwin-style-crystal to intrepid univers, thx verry much22:34
apacheloggerXand3r: agreed22:34
Xand3rralink is worse to but now it works22:35
Xand3rapachelogger:  pleas review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mailody-kde422:40
Xand3rthx22:40
=== toma_ is now known as toma
tomaXand3r: why is the lgpl included ?22:46
Xand3rwhich package?22:47
tomamailody ;-)22:47
Xand3rnixternal had written the copyright22:48
Xand3rand there is no lgpl in cluded toma22:49
tomadebian/copyright/license seems lgpl to me22:50
tomabuild dep libphonon-dev is suspicious  to me, i remember nixternal talking about  it, forgot why though22:51
Xand3rther is no copyright dir22:51
tomadebian/copyright ?22:52
Xand3rthere is22:52
tomai need to update the description, it is crap now22:53
Xand3rtoma: you are right i change the licence to GPL22:55
tomaXand3r: cool. can you change the description to 'A mail client based on the Akonadi framework' in that case. Loose the pop3 thing, it is now untrue22:56
Xand3rkk22:57
Xand3rtoma: short or long description?22:58
tomahm, both?23:00
Xand3rDescription: A mail client based on the Akonadi framework23:02
Xand3r Mailody is an email client for KDE 4 that supports IMAP only23:02
Xand3rthats all?23:02
Xand3rapachelogger will say, that it is to short23:02
apacheloggerXand3r: there isn't really more to say :P23:03
Xand3r^^23:03
tomaXand3r: or somehing like "Mailody is a mail client based on Akonadi. It holds unique features like tabbed mail reading, a quick reply function and server side tagging. The tagging colors are shared with thunderbird and most configuration settings are shared with KMail"23:03
tomait's not imap only23:04
tomaif akonadi gets pop3 support, mailody gets it too23:04
Xand3rits written on the Homepage23:04
tomayeah, i really need to clone myself soon23:04
Xand3r^^23:05
Xand3rok i took your second explenation as longdiscription and the first as the short one23:06
Xand3rthx23:06
tomano, thank you23:06
Xand3rno?23:08
Xand3rah i understan23:08
Xand3rtakes a while23:08
tomahehe ;-)23:08
Xand3r^^23:08
Xand3ryour welcom23:08
Xand3r* you are welcome23:08
Xand3rmey english is worse i know23:09
Xand3rnew version is up now23:11
Xand3rRiddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mailody-kde423:30
Xand3rapachelogger: i want to creat an program which scans with an scanner and pronts the image with the printer, like a copy23:32
Xand3rwhat i need to realse such a thing?23:32
Xand3r*realise23:43
Xand3rapachelogger: still there?23:44
Xand3rok23:52
Xand3rgn8 everybody23:52

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