[00:00] bzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "sftp://echidnaman@bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-users/jockey/jockey-kde": Unable to import paramiko (required for sftp support): No module named paramiko [00:01] That was from using: bzr push sftp://echidnaman@bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-users/jockey/jockey-kde === papabean_ is now known as papabean [00:01] As the wiki suggested [00:01] Riddell had me use bzr+ssh in place of sftp [00:01] I've pushed two changes today using that method [00:02] Oh, that works [00:02] yay pushed :D [00:09] Ok. Now it's time to see about Qt4 Designer and pyKDE4. In order to get language-selector properly ported, the UI has to be modded, too. [00:10] Hope it works for you... [00:36] Apps install their icons to /usr/share/icons/hicolor right? [00:36] Not sure. [00:36] Could try dpkg -L on another app. [00:36] dpkg -L | grep icons [00:38] yup, hicolor [00:48] Designer launched and ran, but I don't think it's what I need. [00:48] pykdeuic4 is what I need. [00:48] What version is python-kde4 at for you? [00:55] How to I get it to link to my LP name in the commit log? https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-users/jockey/jockey-kde [01:00] 4.0.83+svn823405-0ubuntu6~hardy1~ppa11 [01:00] Not sure to the second question. [01:01] Hmm, if qt designer works for you I wonder why it does'nt for me.... [01:01] * JontheEchidna purges/reinstalles [01:02] it works! [01:10] Awesome. [01:42] * JontheEchidna supposes he should subscribe to yet-another-mailing-list [02:20] :( [02:21] Konversation and KNetwork manager are routinely not being embedded in the systray [03:18] Be back tomorrow, g'night. [03:25] gnight JontheEchidna === akonadi is now known as nihui [11:52] JontheEchidna: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/debian/rules at line 26 the configure target starts ... all these not indented things in debian/rules are somewhat like names for these targets (which is whatever happens after that not indented line) [11:52] JontheEchidna: so if you call make -f debian/rules clean - you call in the file debian/rules the target clean, and you can use make because debian/rules files are basically Makefiles [12:01] hello [12:28] Good morning [12:28] Liek whoa, my internet connection made it through the nite [12:45] apachelogger: Like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25418/ ? [12:47] JontheEchidna: more like that http://paste.ubuntu.com/25419/ [12:48] btw, that cmake command looks a bit shortish ;-) [12:49] JontheEchidna: in the install target you also have a semicolon seperated command line [12:55] Well without needing to set the prefix to anything non-normal it doesn't have to be longish. ;) [13:00] Bah, why did Qt designer work yesterday? [13:13] JontheEchidna: default prefix for cmake is /usr/local :P [13:15] apachelogger: I have fixed the ccmake problem if anyone wants to upload it bug 239451 [13:15] Launchpad bug 239451 in cmake "ccmake missing?" [Unknown,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/239451 [13:15] txwikinger: enhance it to provide cmake-gui in it's own package [13:16] the master nixternal will probably upload ;-) [13:16] seriously? [13:16] what is the cmake-gui? [13:17] qt gui for cmake [13:17] basically the qt version of ccmake [13:17] ah [13:17] some people seemed little desperate about the missing ccmake [13:17] was only a missing build-dep [13:18] yes [13:19] apachelogger: Oh, lol. :x [13:19] JontheEchidna: and BUILDDIR doesn't have a cmakelists.txt therefore cmake . ain't gonna work :P [13:21] * JontheEchidna is wondering at this point if it would just be easier to just use cbds [13:23] Oh, it would be cmake .. anyway since I'm in a subdirectory... [13:23] not cmake . [13:24] So, the prefix in Intrepid is /usr ? === evalles_ is now known as effie_jayx [15:18] hi [15:19] emm i using now intrepid on my laptop [15:19] 1. question, is the kde the latest or i have to use apachelogger nightbuilds? [15:20] 2. i cant scrol with the tuchpad [15:20] how can i get it back? [15:20] --> #ubuntu+1 for support? [15:20] gnaa ok [15:38] Hobbsee: kde4 is borked in intrepid atleast here i get a kstartup(something)4 error [15:38] hm [15:38] * apachelogger has debdiff somewhere [15:39] if you need give me 20 minutes and i can have exact error [15:40] upload is taking forever to finish [15:41] Hobbsee: Xand3r has been helping out with development stuff, so I'd have cut him a break. [15:42] ScottK-laptop: i pinged crimsun about the flash backport bug for his opinion on what to backport [15:42] alien-arena-data uploaded finally [15:43] Great. If I knew the right answer, I'd have suggested it. I just want to make sure we think it through. [15:44] bug 245631 [15:44] Launchpad bug 245631 in kdebase-workspace "[intrepid KDE4] "Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation"" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245631 [15:50] thats the error [15:50] ScottK-laptop: i know it gave me a chance to update it to newest beta anyway :) [15:50] should 'r-mouse desktop' > 'desktop settings' > 'new theme' be workin in kubuntu intrepid? [15:51] apachelogger: your kidding its just a path/naming issue? [15:51] from .kde4 to .kde [16:01] gnomefreak: yes [16:02] actually it is a conflict [16:02] kdelibs already switched from .kde4 to .kde [16:02] kdebase didn't [16:02] ah [16:02] im guessing thats why some apps couldnt be installed [16:02] still have dep issues on some [16:03] * apachelogger would like to see those [16:04] lol i will seee if i can find them again [16:04] give me a few [16:10] extragear-plasma kde4-amusements yakuake-kde4 apachelogger here are a few [16:13] gnomefreak: well what are they issues they are having? [16:13] apachelogger: not installible due to dep issues [16:14] yakuake-kde4: Depends: konsole-kde4 (>= 4:4.0.0) [16:14] that is one [16:14] needs, rebuild I guess [16:14] as for the other 2 its a bit much to paste in here [16:15] * apachelogger demands a paste.ubuntu.com integration in every irc client [16:15] apachelogger: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/479430 [16:15] apachelogger: i was working on it [16:15] hm [16:15] the amusements needs a deeper look [16:16] ah [16:18] deeper == 1 more minute i was mozilla was that kind of deeper [16:19] * apachelogger is confused by all that deepness [16:23] deepness in mozilla apps take longer than 30 minutes deeper look for you took all of 1 minute [16:35] Would somebody mind reviewing my package (a Qt IDE)? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=monkeystudio Thanks ;) [16:38] DRebellion: best bet would be to wait until tomorrow since its a sunday morning [16:39] most people are off on weekends and try to not be here [16:39] gnomefreak, been waiting for weeks, but okay I will ask again tomorrow [16:40] DRebellion: i havent seen you ask before today but sometimes it takes time to get anyone to look at it, hint ive had packages not looked at for 3 releases of that package [16:40] it happens [16:40] * gnomefreak doesnt bother with revu much anymore === emonkey-t is now known as emonkey [16:41] gnomefreak, just gets frustrating, especially because it's my first package [16:42] the problem is [16:42] it's fairly big [16:42] so more difficult to find the time to revu [16:43] apachelogger, yeah, quite a long build, and then the huge copyright as well. [16:53] mozilla apps are around 50mb sources some more some less that was with firefox-2 i dont remember what 3 is [18:02] hey [18:07] apachelogger: bist du da? [18:53] Xand3r: aye [18:54] hab die neue source oben [18:54] i have the new source of kwin-style uploaded [18:56] the person who build qlix before whants to build up to end, i have said him he will get help here [18:57] with with building kdpkg i got the error, that iostream.h will be not found, but this is a part of g++ [19:00] apachelogger: there but no time ? :p [19:01] Xand3r: a) if you want something form me, you gotta highlight me.. you know how many channels I am in :P [19:01] b) up until now I only see information but nothing I could help with ;-) [19:01] emm [19:05] apachelogger: there are 2 hidden question: 1. can you re view the new source? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kwin-style-crystal 2. what i did wrong with kdpkg http://paste.ubuntu.com/25484/ [19:06] hmm [19:06] isn't iostream.h in some stdc++? [19:07] * smarter just discovered bzr bd-do [19:07] smarter: what dos that do? [19:07] *does [19:07] hm, dos is everywhere it seems [19:08] makes bzr less painfull to use with a package ;) [19:08] bzr bd-do --help [19:08] (if you already use bzr bd/build-deb) [19:08] hrrhrr [19:09] * smarter wonders why everybody is not already using a vcs for packaging [19:10] it doesn't make sense for most packages [19:10] why? [19:10] why would I need vc for a package that is changing once a year and that change is a new upstream release? [19:11] true ;) [19:11] but I think we should use more vcs fun for kde [19:11] * apachelogger agrees [19:12] vcs? [19:12] version control system [19:12] virtual control system [19:12] better ;) [19:12] ^^ [19:12] like bazaar, svn, git [19:12] * apachelogger wouldn't know what virtual is in that case :P [19:12] a ok [19:13] but why you use vcs not bzr svn or git [19:13] bzr IS a vcs [19:13] vcs is the generic term [19:14] smarter: stop confusing my padawan :P [19:14] ^^' [19:14] smarter: are you motu yet? [19:14] apachelogger: :p [19:14] apachelogger: nop [19:15] I should probably do what you said I should do and create a page on the wiki on my MOTUs activities [19:16] totally [19:16] uhh [19:17] good ol feisty [19:17] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot037.png [19:17] that almost looks like oxygen with colors *shudder* [19:18] ? [19:18] hmm [19:19] Xand3r: you will have to wait for nixternal or Riddell to upload ... and tell Riddell to move kwin-style-crystal to universe [19:19] there is no reason it should remain in main [19:19] other than prevent me from uploading -.- [19:20] ok thx apachelogger [19:20] apachelogger: you could build a gtk-qt-engine-kde-nightly [19:20] no [19:20] ok [19:20] my system makes my crazy [19:21] huzzah for linker errors [19:21] what i have to do with my isostream error? [19:21] http://pastebin.com/m1a270e2a << does anyone know what I could be doing wrong? [19:23] hm [19:23] smarter: editorfactory doesn't exist in qt4 anymore I think [19:24] qitemeditorfactory is there [19:24] and Q3EditorFactory [19:24] apachelogger: it's using an external lib which provides qeditorfactory [19:24] bbl [19:25] Riddell: please upload http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kwin-style-crystal, in universe, thx [19:25] (qcodeedit, which I'm also packagin) [19:25] *packaging [19:25] smarter: maybe missing an include? [19:28] * apachelogger is down to 5 unread mails [19:28] hooray [19:28] Nightrose: how long was that? [19:28] * smarter has 1278 to read [19:28] ~1 week? [19:28] smarter: I was at 24k or something [19:28] apachelogger: hehe probably [19:28] wow [19:28] * Nightrose has 0 unread [19:29] yay for inboxzero [19:29] hrrr [19:29] me too [19:29] yay [19:29] PARTY! :D [19:29] \o/ [19:30] \o\ [19:30] omg [19:36] i am happy if i get mails^^ [19:38] *lol* Xand3r - you will find it more stressful than you want sooner than later [19:38] ^^ [19:38] i don't think so [19:39] apachelogger: your young padawan needs some mailing list subscriptions... [19:39] I reccomend kde-devel -core-devel and -commits [19:40] and why i will get thousand mails? [19:40] oh and -bugs [19:40] and why i want to have this mailing lists? [19:40] well you said you want to get more emails ;-) [19:41] and after all those lists are interesting [19:41] emm [19:41] hmmm [19:41] sure [19:42] but i am lazy [19:45] well [19:45] no [19:45] Xand3r: you should subscribe to [19:45] kubuntu-devel [19:45] ubuntu-devel-announce [19:45] gnaa [19:45] ubuntu-motu [19:45] ubuntu-motu-mentors [19:46] i will dont understan anything [19:46] Xand3r: the more you read the easier it gets [19:47] why the mentors? i am no [19:47] IIRC that is where quetions are asked [19:48] IIRC ? [19:49] if I recall correctly [19:49] * apachelogger plays some vim tetris [19:52] * apachelogger sucks at tetris :S [19:53] apachelogger: try aptitude's minesweeper ;) [19:54] * apachelogger has no aptitude [20:11] http://digg.com/linux_unix/KDE4_KWin_has_new_Cube_plugin [20:11] yummy [20:12] no cubes!!!!! [20:18] cubs would be more awesome -.- [20:19] clubs? [20:19] or spikes, I would dig some spikes [20:20] clubs sounds good as well [20:21] although that is a slick looking cube [20:34] i have no clue how to solve my kdpk isostream problem, apachelogger you? [20:34] apachelogger: where i can singn this mailing lists? [20:36] https://lists.ubuntu.com/ [20:37] Xand3r: not right now [20:39] apachelogger: ok -.- , i have passed qlix to the guy who asked for, rubberband i need the new source wich is not there, kdpkg i have no clue, kwin-style-cristal is finished, i guess i need something new [20:39] Xand3r: triage bugs [20:40] jo === toma is now known as toma_ [20:54] apachelogger: the ml are subscribed [20:55] Xand3r: well, off to the bug triaging then ;-) [20:56] ? [20:56] kk === timbl is now known as bltim [21:06] Riddell: needs mailody still merging? [21:06] if i will work on it [21:09] Xand3r: Riddell is not around, find out yourself :P [21:11] och [21:14] on the source site is the 0.5 source, i have here the 1.5 ii think i work on it [21:16] apachelogger: do you agree? [21:16] Xand3r: yeah, go ahead [21:17] ok [21:17] thx for reply [21:18] Riddell: hey, please sponsor the debdiff of bug 245631 [21:18] Launchpad bug 245631 in kdebase-workspace "[intrepid KDE4] "Could not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation"" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245631 [21:30] is there already an mailody 1.5? [21:30] i dont found one [21:30] i mean in debian [21:30] there is a alfa1, should be in kubuntu [21:31] i whant to package it so i need the revison of the debian package if there is [21:31] if not it is no merging it is creating^^ [21:31] http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mailody-kde4/ [21:32] the kubuntu package is ok [21:32] no idea were debian is with packaging it [21:32] so why i have to build one? [21:32] not for me [21:33] nixternal packaged alfa1 which is the latest, so imho there is nothing to do [21:33] Riddell: nixternal already done it, take his version for the extragears [21:34] that is only for hardy, not intrepid [21:34] it's also an old version, not the one released with 4.0.83 [21:35] ok i build it new [21:35] Riddell: there no newer version than alfa1 [21:36] have i to put in the change log of 0.5? [21:37] toma_: sure there is, here ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.0.83/extragear [21:37] Riddell: please kill the yakuake-kde4 source package - I merged it with yakuake which is generating a transitional package [21:38] Riddell: that must be a mistake, let me check [21:39] Riddell: i dont know why helio has packaged it [21:39] Riddell: can i remove it from that folder? [21:39] you may [21:40] Xand3r: ok so ignore the extragear tar and use the one at http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mailody-kde4/ but update the cdb [21:40] update the debian/cdbs directory [21:40] afternoon [21:40] toma_: do you think we should keep the kde 3 mailody for intrepid? [21:40] Riddell: ktorrent-kde4 source can also be dropped from intrepid [21:41] Riddell: ok thx [21:41] Riddell: not sure, mailody will probably be ok in general, not sure akonadi will be ok [21:42] Riddell: so you might want to keep the 3 version to be safe [21:45] Xand3r: so keep the -kde4 in the package name and add Conflicts: mailody to the entry in debian/control [21:48] oh ok [22:06] *updating ktorrent* [22:06] :( [22:07] Riddell: btw, do you think it is more helpful for a core-dev application if I file my debdiffs for main pages as bugs? [22:07] Huh, strangely enough qt3 designer is giving the same results as qt4-designer [22:09] (segfaulting after giving pykde-related errors) [22:10] apachelogger: I expect it's the uploads they look at [22:11] ok [22:31] apachelogger: on mylaptop i have now intrepid -.- the mouse behavior changed and the bcm43 dont work [22:32] bcm [22:32] is that caused of the kde or of ubuntu? [22:32] ubuntu [22:32] bcm is nice [22:32] because it worked on hardy [22:33] apachelogger: bcm is sended from hell [22:34] Riddell: pleas upload http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kwin-style-crystal to intrepid univers, thx verry much [22:34] Xand3r: agreed [22:35] ralink is worse to but now it works [22:40] apachelogger: pleas review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mailody-kde4 [22:40] thx === toma_ is now known as toma [22:46] Xand3r: why is the lgpl included ? [22:47] which package? [22:47] mailody ;-) [22:48] nixternal had written the copyright [22:49] and there is no lgpl in cluded toma [22:50] debian/copyright/license seems lgpl to me [22:51] build dep libphonon-dev is suspicious to me, i remember nixternal talking about it, forgot why though [22:51] ther is no copyright dir [22:52] debian/copyright ? [22:52] there is [22:53] i need to update the description, it is crap now [22:55] toma: you are right i change the licence to GPL [22:56] Xand3r: cool. can you change the description to 'A mail client based on the Akonadi framework' in that case. Loose the pop3 thing, it is now untrue [22:57] kk [22:58] toma: short or long description? [23:00] hm, both? [23:02] Description: A mail client based on the Akonadi framework [23:02] Mailody is an email client for KDE 4 that supports IMAP only [23:02] thats all? [23:02] apachelogger will say, that it is to short [23:03] Xand3r: there isn't really more to say :P [23:03] ^^ [23:03] Xand3r: or somehing like "Mailody is a mail client based on Akonadi. It holds unique features like tabbed mail reading, a quick reply function and server side tagging. The tagging colors are shared with thunderbird and most configuration settings are shared with KMail" [23:04] it's not imap only [23:04] if akonadi gets pop3 support, mailody gets it too [23:04] its written on the Homepage [23:04] yeah, i really need to clone myself soon [23:05] ^^ [23:06] ok i took your second explenation as longdiscription and the first as the short one [23:06] thx [23:06] no, thank you [23:08] no? [23:08] ah i understan [23:08] takes a while [23:08] hehe ;-) [23:08] ^^ [23:08] your welcom [23:08] * you are welcome [23:09] mey english is worse i know [23:11] new version is up now [23:30] Riddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mailody-kde4 [23:32] apachelogger: i want to creat an program which scans with an scanner and pronts the image with the printer, like a copy [23:32] what i need to realse such a thing? [23:43] *realise [23:44] apachelogger: still there? [23:52] ok [23:52] gn8 everybody