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GrommetI updated pidgin and now my pidgin screenlet always says "pidgin not running" anyone else have this?00:08
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PengSomebody has a sucky connection.00:34
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jmlPeng: hi00:42
Pengjml: Hello.00:42
PengLaunchpad disabled updating all of my branches. :(00:42
jmlPeng: I think the bug that was stopping your branches from mirroring has been fixed00:42
jmlPeng: you can get it to try again, I think.00:42
PengYes, I can.00:42
jmlPeng: it should work this time :)00:42
PengI just hit the button.00:43
* Peng waits.00:43
Monkey_armaHi, i registered my email and password with launchpad but i cant login....00:44
Monkey_armaive even tried resetting my password00:45
Pengjml: It still thinks it failed.00:45
jml:(00:45
Pengjml: (fwiw, I pressed the button on edge)00:45
jmlPeng: URL please?00:45
Pengjml: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mnordhoff/pytz/pytz-2008c00:45
jmlPeng: it's possible the new code hasn't rolled out (I wasn't 100% clear on that)00:45
Pengjml: Also, LP seems to have used nosmart+http.00:45
jmlPeng: yeah, that's deliberate00:46
Pengjml: All it did was request the format files (plus .bzr/repository/shared-storage).00:46
Pengjml: :(00:46
Pengjml: bzr+http is nice.00:46
jmlPeng: it is, but it also creates problems at the puller's end.00:46
PengOver bzr+http, a no-op pull uses a few hundred bytes of bandwidth (not counting headers) vs. a few hundred KB.00:46
jmlPeng: yes. we're going to change the bzrlib APIs we use to fetch branches fairly soon.00:47
jmlI'm hoping that will let smart server stuff work.00:47
PengAww.00:48
* jml frowns at that error.00:48
PengToo bad. I was really looking forward to bzr+http.00:50
jmlPeng: you shouldn't have to wait long.00:53
PengOh no, IRSeekBot. /me runs away.00:53
Pengjml: ok00:54
PengSo the current fix is just to not use bzr+http?00:56
jmlPeng: yes. although the 'no such directory' thing is a bug I need to fix.00:56
PengNo such directory?00:57
jmlPeng: sorry, 'directory already exists''00:57
Pengok00:57
jmlI'd link you the bug, but my firefox keeps hanging :\00:57
PengHeh, I know the feeling.00:58
jmlbug 24591500:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245915 in launchpad-bazaar "Puller breaks when dest directory is not a branch but has a bzrdir" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24591500:58
PengOk.01:00
PengThanks for your help. :)01:00
jmlbug 245918 also01:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245918 in launchpad-bazaar "Puller should use bzr+http when it can" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24591801:01
* jml goes to make some toast and work on personal projects.01:02
Monkey_armaOK on my previous point it turns out you need to have cookies enabled to login. I suggest you may want to add a page that informs users when they have cookies enabled. At the moment there is no explanation of why logins dont work without cookies.01:07
Monkey_arma*disabled01:07
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Stavroshello01:59
Stavroshow can i add a second developer to a project?01:59
thumperStavros: I'm not sure what you mean02:08
thumperStavros: what are you trying to do or enable?02:08
Stavrosthumper: i'm trying to enable another dev to commit to a project branc02:09
Stavrosh02:09
thumperah02:09
Stavrosjust the standard collaboration features02:09
thumperok02:09
thumperwhat you need to do is to make a team with all the people that are going to commit02:09
thumperand change the ownership of the branch tot he team02:09
Stavrosoh aha02:10
Stavroshow do i make a team?02:10
* thumper thinks02:10
thumpersomething like https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam?02:10
thumperalthough that was just from memory02:10
Stavrosh,,02:10
Stavroshmm02:10
Stavrosoh yes02:10
thumperhey02:10
Stavrosthanks :P02:10
Stavros:)02:10
thumperwhaddya know02:10
Stavroshaha02:10
thumperits right02:10
Stavroslaunchpad usability isn't that hot :/02:10
thumperwe are working on it :)02:10
Stavrosthat's good to know, it's great overall02:11
thumperthanks02:13
thumperStavros: if you are using branches, be sure to check out the new code review features02:14
Stavrosah, where's that?02:14
Stavrosthat sounds great02:14
thumperStavros: the code reviews are attached to the branch merge proposals02:14
thumperwhat you do is "propose for merging"02:14
thumperand select the trunk branch02:14
thumperthat creates the proposal02:14
thumperpeople who are subscribed to the source or target branch will get emails then02:15
thumperalso02:15
Stavrosselect "propose for merging" on someone else's branch?02:15
thumperyou can go to the proposal page and add comments02:15
thumpersure02:15
thumpernormally trunk02:15
thumperso you work on a feature branch02:15
thumperand propose to merge on trunk02:15
Stavrosoh, that's nice02:15
thumperyou can reply to the email that you get sent02:16
thumperand they are threaded on the proposal page02:16
thumperlike the bug mail02:16
Stavrosoh, that's great02:16
thumperwe found that most of our review workflow was over email02:16
thumperso it made sense to have LP handle reviews that way too02:16
Stavrosyes, it's more useful as well02:16
thumperrather than making people go through the web app02:16
Stavrosyeah02:16
thumpersoon now we will have the ability to email out the diffs against trunk with the email02:17
thumperthat work is in progress02:17
Stavrosin bzr format?02:17
thumperwell we are thinking normal unified diff at this stage, but perhaps we could do merge directives02:17
Stavrosah02:18
Stavrosthat's also useful02:18
thumperI can't think of any reason why we couldn't use merge directives02:18
thumperon the person and project pages there are now links to active reviews and approved merges on the main code tab02:18
thumperthese will take you to the merge proposals that are in "needs review" state, or "approved"02:19
Stavrosah02:19
Stavrosthat's great for non-core developers02:19
thumperyeah02:19
thumperthat is one place where bzr shines02:19
thumperis to allow casual contribution02:19
Stavrosyeah, i love it02:20
Stavrosand the idea that you can push to your own branch02:20
Stavroswithout being a part of the project02:20
Stavrosby the way, blueprints are feature requests?02:20
thumperyeah02:20
thumperthe are kinda heavy weight02:20
Stavrosah, i was looking for feature requests earlier02:20
Stavrosyeah, a bit :/02:20
thumpersome use wishlist bugs02:20
Stavrosthey're this big scary thing02:20
Stavrosyeah, i was thinking of doing that02:20
thumperblueprints aren't that bad02:21
thumperjust use the title and summary02:21
thumperyou don't need the rest02:21
Stavrostrue, now that i saw them02:21
thumpergood karma for blueprints too :)02:21
Stavrosdoes karma do anything?02:22
thumperno02:22
Stavrosah :p02:22
Stavrosjust a sort of reputation?02:22
thumperjust a track of how much you do in different projects02:22
thumpertop karma contributors for the projects are shown on the main project page02:23
thumperjust a way to show appreciation02:23
Stavrosah, i see02:23
Stavrosi have to go now, thank you very much for your help02:27
Stavroskeep up the good work!02:27
ion_Suggestion: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/malone/+spec/base-36-bug-ids04:29
khalderonhi there06:41
khalderondoes anyone know how to solve my problem?06:41
khalderonyesterday I came here and asked about it06:41
khalderonand I was told that an admin should tackle with it06:41
khalderonnow I still see that the bug is not fixed06:42
khalderonwhy is that?06:42
LaserJockkhalderon: well, it is the weekend06:49
khalderonso what?06:50
khalderonlaunchpad doesn't work in the weekend?06:50
LaserJockkhalderon: well, quite often employees have the weekend off06:50
khalderonyou mean, that if there is a problem, it can't be solved until monday?06:51
LaserJockI didn't06:51
LaserJockbut it might be harder to find somebody06:51
LaserJockand I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't looked at until Monday, depending on the problem06:52
khalderonnow I know that launchpad is just a perfect service!!! :(06:53
LaserJockwell, sorry about that, but there aren't a lot of admins just hanging out06:54
khalderonI am leaving until monday06:54
alencoolhello07:30
alencoolanyone here that may be able to help me?07:33
wgrant!ask07:33
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)07:33
alencooli just registered a new branch for my project https://launchpad.net/elloquence , .. i create branch of my main line branch (trunk) . and now i wish to push that to the newly registered in launchpad07:35
alencool bzr push lp:~alencool/elloquence/simple-avatar-select07:36
alencoolbzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() 07:36
wgrantalencool: Run bzr launchpad-login.07:37
wgrantOtherwise it will assume that you don't have a Launchpad account, so can't upload.07:37
alencoolwgrant: thanks, i will try that :D07:37
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skavezjust wondering - is there any reason why underscores aren't valid for project names?10:22
mwhudson_skavez: "harder to pronounce" is the idea10:33
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skavezmwhudson: my project's name includes an underscore (plugin for a cms - unfortunate naming convention)10:35
skavezbut i think i can compromise on a dash :)10:35
mwhudsonright10:35
Hobbseeack12:52
Hobbseelaunchpad changed again.12:52
Hobbseehow do i shrink the panels?12:52
Hobbseeer, collapse them?12:52
Hobbseempt: any idea?12:53
wgrantHobbsee: Greasemonkey!12:57
wgrantOr just wait until they have the whole new theme sorted out. It might work then.12:57
Hobbseewgrant: why doens't it work anymore?12:58
Hobbseewgrant: i can't even manually collapse them.12:58
wgrantHobbsee: Because they're probably part-way through the UI redesign. Things are meant to be borked.12:59
Hobbseethat is a point13:00
Stavroshello14:41
Stavrosis it possible for me to delete a branch?14:41
Stavroshello15:13
Stavrosi'm trying to push to a branch but i've pushed to the wrong one, can i delete it?15:13
Hobbsee!weekend15:13
ubottuIt's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.15:13
Hobbseeyou can mark it obsolete, iirc.15:13
Stavrosoh, hmm15:13
Stavrosthe link was telling me to push under my account, but then it told me to push under lp:projectname15:14
Hobbseebzr uncommit looks useful, too15:14
Stavrosso now i'm a bit confused15:14
Stavrosoh that's true15:14
andrea-bsStavros: uncommit, revert (if you need) and then push to the wrong location with the --overwrite option15:15
andrea-bsStavros: note that if you revert you will lose your changes ;)15:16
Stavrosandrea-bs: it's ok, i have them on the proper branch, but it won't push15:16
Stavroseven with --overwrite15:16
Stavroscould it be because there are no commits?15:16
andrea-bswhat does it say?15:16
StavrosNo new revisions to push.15:16
Stavrosoh never mind, there was a "Delete this branch" link :p15:17
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andrea-bs;)15:17
Malinthehi guys, i'm having some troubles accessing my launchpad account. when i try to login i get the error 'This account cannot be used' - i do some wordpress translations on launchpad15:21
Hobbseehm, supposedly they fixed that a few days ago15:22
Malintheah is it a known problem?]15:24
Hobbseewell, it was.  don't know about now15:24
Malintheah15:25
ScottWegnerHi all.  I'm trying to push some changes to my personal bazaar branch on Launchpad but I get an error message:  bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eswegner/pwdhash-sharp/trunk/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()15:33
ScottWegnerDoes anybody know if this is a launchpad issue, a bazaar issue, or am I doing something wrong15:33
StavrosScottWegner: how are you trying to push?15:37
andrea-bsScottWegner: you have to run bzr launchpad-login15:38
ScottWegnerandrea-bs: ahhh, I betcha that's it.. let me try.15:39
ScottWegnerhmmm, it looks like I don't even have launchpad-login command on this laptop-- does anybody know what packages it's in, offhand?15:41
andrea-bsScottWegner: which version of bzr do you have?15:41
ScottWegner1.3.1-1ubuntu0.1, from the repos15:42
andrea-bsoh, it's quite old; you have to use bzr+ssh15:42
andrea-bsScottWegner: bzr push bzr+ssh://username@bazaar.launchpad.net/~team/project/branch15:43
ScottWegnerreally?  I use the lp: syntax for bzr on my desktop machine-- is there a newer bazaar version in the hardy-proposed repository perhaps?15:43
gnomefreakScottWegner: what ubuntu version ar eyou on?15:44
gnomefreakah hardy has old version15:44
ScottWegnergnomefreak: hardy15:44
andrea-bsScottWegner: I don't know if there is one in hardy-proposed, but you can use the bzr ppa15:44
gnomefreakScottWegner: i saw15:44
gnomefreakandrea-bs: there isnt15:44
gnomefreaki think i have them15:44
gnomefreakoh missing -proposed15:45
andrea-bsthere's https://launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive with bzr 1.515:45
ScottWegnerandrea-bs: thanks, I'll try installing that version15:46
gnomefreakandrea-bs: proposed doesnt have a newer version than 1.3.115:47
andrea-bsScottWegner: I'm not sure if launchpad-login is included in bzr 1.5 because I'm using the 1.6 beta 2 :)15:47
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ScottWegnerandrea-bs: Hmm.  Ok, for now I think I'll just stick to using the ssh syntax.15:48
ScottWegnerit looks like I also hadn't uploaded the SSH key from this machine to launchpad-- that could've been part of the problem15:48
mptGoooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!16:01
bigdogI am using windows, and   paegaent16:02
bigdoga couple of month ago,  I had no problem push branches16:02
bigdogI tried again last night, with paegent active, and my key loaded16:03
bigdogH:\launchpad\txcomputegrid>bzr launchpad-login -v  bigdog16:03
bigdogbzr: ERROR: The user bigdog has not registered any SSH keys with Launchpad.16:03
bigdogI updated bzr to 1.5, and received the same error16:03
bigdogmy key is still registered with launchpad16:04
bigdoghas something change16:04
bigdog?16:04
bigdogI get the same result with16:04
andrea-bsbigdog: all ssh keys have been removed from launchpad some weeks ago for a security reason16:04
bigdogset BZR_SSH=paramiko16:04
Nafalloandrea-bs: only the compromised ones surely?16:04
Nafallohi mpt :-)16:04
bigdogandrea-bs: this key was generated on windows, and it is still on my launchpad16:05
bigdogI thought only keys generated with debian or ubuntu were problematic?16:05
andrea-bsNafallo: yep, I was looking for the mail in the lp-users-list to link it ;)16:06
andrea-bsbigdog: I can't see your key on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~bigdog16:06
bigdogandrea-bs: I herd about the problem,  my ssh key is still on launchpad https://launchpad.net/~michaelschneider-current/+sshkeys16:06
bigdogandrea-bs:  am I looking at the correct key?16:07
bigdogandrea-bs: I can generate a new key and upload if that is required?16:07
andrea-bsbigdog: I'm not sure if compromised keys were ignored or deleted16:08
bigdogis https://launchpad.net/~michaelschneider-current/+sshkeys  the correct place to look for a registered ssh key?16:08
andrea-bsbigdog: yes, it is16:10
andrea-bsbigdog: I was looking in the wrong account :)16:10
andrea-bsbigdog: so your launchpad login is michaelschneider-current?16:10
bigdogyes16:11
bigdogandrea-bs: bigdog is my id16:11
bigdogwhen I log into launchpad16:12
Nafalloehrm16:12
bigdogand click on the bigdog link  "logged in as bigdog"16:12
Nafallothe sshkeys is bound to accounts... if you have several (for whatever really odd reason) it needs to be on the one you'll be using.16:12
andrea-bsbigdog: is it your launchpad page? https://launchpad.net/~bigdog16:13
bigdogit takes me to https://launchpad.net/~michaelschneider-current16:13
andrea-bsbigdog: oh, I have understood16:13
andrea-bs"bigdog" is the displayed name16:13
Nafalloaaah16:13
andrea-bs"michaelschneider-current" is the launchpad ID16:13
bigdogandrea-bs oh, so I am using bigdog instead of michaelscheider-current ?16:14
andrea-bsbigdog: so you have to run `bzr launchpad-login michaelschneider-current`16:14
andrea-bsbigdog: yes :)16:14
bigdogandread-bs: thank you 16:15
bigdogH:\launchpad\txcomputegrid>bzr launchpad-login michaelschneider-current16:15
bigdogH:\launchpad\txcomputegrid>16:15
bigdogsuccess16:15
bigdogI am very sorry16:15
andrea-bsno problem, you are welcome ;)16:15
bigdogmichaelschneider-current  is my email16:15
bigdogthat must be the base of the launchpad id16:15
Nafallothere should be a merge feature somewhere if you want to collapse them into one.16:16
soulriderhi16:55
soulrideri just registered my project https://launchpad.net/twins but im not sure how to use launchpad as a bug tracker16:55
andrea-bssoulrider: first of all, go to https://launchpad.net/twins/+edit and make sure you have selected "Bugs are tracked: In Launchpad"17:00
soulriderandrea-bs, thanks for the tip17:15
andrea-bssoulrider: if you need other help, feel free to ask ;)17:15
soulriderthanks17:16
soulrideractually17:16
soulrideri enabled translations but im not sure how they work17:16
soulriderdoes launchpad somehow scan the code lookinf dor strings?17:16
andrea-bssoulrider: to make translations available for your project, you have to put all strings in a .po or .pot file17:18
soulrideroh17:18
soulrideri will ahve to look into it when i have more time17:19
andrea-bssoulrider: yes, it's a process a bit long to understand17:21
andrea-bssoulrider: I'm searching for some help docs for you17:21
andrea-bssoulrider: here you are: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject/Draft17:23
andrea-bssoulrider: it's a draft, but the information are correct17:23
soulriderthank you.17:24
andrea-bsyou are welcome :)17:24
domashi!17:35
domasbazaar web interface decided not to work, 'please try again', or directing to this channel17:36
gnomefreakoh webinterface 18:08
VolansHi, there is on LP the possibility to setup a MailingList for a project? (I know is possible for a Team)18:20
gnomefreakVolans: yes18:24
gnomefreakonly for a team sorry18:24
VolansHi gnomefreak, thanks for the reply... you know also why is not possible for a project?18:25
VolansI think is useless create a team for a small project... a ML attached to the project will be enough IMHO18:25
gnomefreakVolans: it hasnt been added yet?18:25
gnomefreaknot sure i know LP is going through major changes atm18:26
Volansgnomefreak: I don't have found it in the project menu... but is possible that I don't have see it ;)18:28
gnomefreakVolans: you wont i have beta LP and its not there18:29
Volansso I have to setup a Team and ask for a ML or wait this new feature... 18:30
gnomefreakVolans: or you can get mailing list through ubuntu on lists.ubuntu.com18:32
gnomefreakthey work well for projects18:32
Volansyeah, of course18:33
Volansbut there is a substatial difference between ubuntu lists and lp that hosts also project not related with ubuntu ;)18:38
Volanss/project/projects/18:38
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zoli2kIt is possible to make a private bazaar branch on launchpad?19:02
LarstiQzoli2k: as in noone else can read it?19:03
zoli2kLarstiQ: I am working on a application based on unpublished scientific results. The application will be released in GPL right after the publication of the algorithm. 19:05
LarstiQzoli2k: I see.19:06
zoli2kSo, I would like to use launchpad for the development but making the code visible just after the paper is published.19:07
Volanszoli2k: you need other people can use this branch ?19:10
LarstiQzoli2k: private branches in the context of launchpad are only writable by you, but readable by everyone else. I don't think launchpad offers something that is invisible for others.19:11
LarstiQzoli2k: but as Volans says, if you don't need to collaborate on it, why push it to Launchpad at all?19:12
zoli2kI wish Launchpad would be open source ...19:13
LarstiQzoli2k: how would that help you?19:13
Volansthere are other bzr or at least svn free repositories online that allow to "close" a branch/repository iirc19:13
LaserJockgithub might be another option19:14
zoli2kI need to collaborate with few developers on the code.  19:15
zoli2kLarstiQ: It would solve my problem.19:15
LarstiQzoli2k: I don't see how.19:15
Volansif you have a public IP address a local bzr/svn server can done the work zoli2k ;)19:15
LarstiQzoli2k: you will need to have a place to host anyway, and if you do you can push to there without Launchpad.19:23
zoli2kI don't like the idea of local bzr server. It can not be compared with the services of Launchpad. I was experimenting with trac, but it's bazaar plug-in is very experimental.19:26
LarstiQzoli2k: you can still use launchpad for all the non code-hosting bits?19:36
Volanszoli2k: you can use svn+trac for the developmente part and after import it into launchpad as a normal project I think19:38
LarstiQzoli2k: I've heard redmine bzr support is better than trac19:40
zoli2kLarstiQ: I will definitely give a try.19:43
zoli2kVolans: LarstiQ: Thanks 19:43
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kgoetzhi all. I'm getting an oops timeout trying to do an advanced search. should i wait a while, or is this a bug21:11
kgoetzfwiw i do see that it says waiting a while might help, so i am, but i thought it might be worth asking about :)21:13
kgoetz waiting a few minutes doesnt seem to have helpe d:\21:19
Stavroshello21:37
Stavroshow can i create a milestone/21:37
Stavroshmm, how can i delete a series and a milestone? :/21:44
woodyPLHello, I want to set up a translation group at Launchpad and in Launchpad Answers somebody proposed to contact the responsible person - could anyone help me?22:27
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ion_yhouse: Thanks a lot for the information! I might not have noticed it if you’d used only one line to notify us.22:53
zyx386hi22:58
zyx386wher is rosetta from launchpad team?22:58
zyx386how can i contact to launchpad team Rosetta?23:00
mwhudsonzyx386: answers.launchpad.net/rosetta23:02
zyx386thanx23:03
zyx386is another person from tranlation team her?23:05
zyx386i need help23:05

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