[09:55] <jarjar> hello
[09:56] <jarjar> anyone
[10:04] <jarjar> you sleep??
[10:11] <freet15> hi
[14:22] <ogra> lool, do we have a ubuntu mobile blog ? my fingertraining project for this weekend is https://launchpad.net/usb-imagewriter if thats done it would be nice to announce it on planet
[14:47] <lool> ogra: We don't have one, perhaps we should
[14:48] <lool> ogra: Is this to write MIC images, livecd-rootfs images, or both?
[14:48] <ogra> its just a dd frontend
[14:49] <ogra> so usable for all images from cdimage
[14:49] <lool> Does it write to /dev/sdN or sdN1?
[14:49] <ogra> /dev/sdN
[14:50] <ogra> it just does dd if=image of=device
[14:50] <lool> ogra: Quite nice
[14:50] <ogra> just to save users from having to use a terminal :)
[14:50] <lool> ogra: Too bad we use the ubuntu-mobile ppa for actual testing of hardy ume updates
[14:50] <lool> ogra: For virtual-mobile-builder I packaged it and put it in the project's ppa
[14:51] <ogra> well, i think that tool is usable beyond UME ... if it works as i want it i'll just push it to intrepid universe 
[14:51] <ogra> and probably ask for a hardy backport 
[14:51] <lool> ogra: I agree, virtual-mobile-builder is in intrepid as well
[14:52] <lool> ogra: it's not easy to have the proper set of deps from a hardy base, ubuntu-vm-builder, mic, and vmb have to match
[14:52] <lool> Hence the ppa for hardy people
[14:52] <lool> Right, a backport would be sufficient here indeed
[14:53] <lool> ogra: You might want to set -e find_devices.sh
[14:53] <ogra> yeps
[14:53] <lool> haha you made the header image yourself? :)
[14:53] <lool> Cute :)
[14:53] <ogra> actually i want that (and the wrapper script that i'm writing right now ) to be in pythob
[14:54] <lool> Ideally the dd part would be in python as well and have some progress indication
[14:54] <ogra> well, i'm doing that for fun, not as work ... making eaders is one of the fun elements 
[14:54] <lool> ogra: I can't agree more!
[14:54] <lool> ogra: Will look cool in your blog post too! :)
[14:54] <ogra> well, i'm somewhat scared by diong dd in python
[14:54] <ogra> dd is safe and proven as tool
[14:54] <lool> Why is that?
[14:55] <ogra> i actually like to realy on the consistency of proven tools for such stuff 
[14:55] <lool> It might be but then ultimately it's just open(), seek() and write() mostly, isn't it?  There might be tons of exceptional cases handling, but does it really recover from themN
[14:55] <lool> *them?
[14:56] <ogra> cjwatson also suggested reimlementing in python ... but i'd like to be able to just add dd options later for adjustments etc
[14:56] <ogra> right, but you somehow need to parse it through a pipe and count bytes etc
[14:56] <ogra> to get the progress output
[14:56] <lool> From dd?
[14:56] <ogra> since i cant just copare source and target size easily while writing to raw devices
[14:57] <lool> You don't want to parse dd's console output; it's ugly to get it and ugly to parse
[14:57] <ogra> thats what i do atm
[14:57] <ogra> its not that ugly to parse :) 
[14:57] <ogra> but ugly to get i admit 
[14:57] <lool> You parse dd progress output?
[14:57] <lool> Hmm I don't see the signalling
[14:57] <ogra> sending USR1 in a 1sec frequency to it to trigger output
[14:57] <lool> I've grepped for that and didn't find the signal sending
[14:58] <ogra> thats in the script i'm just writing, not in the branch yet
[14:58] <lool> Ahhh
[14:58] <lool> ok
[14:58] <lool> I checked for this immediately after checking you were using dd
[14:58] <lool> I have to go drive my wife to some shopping
[14:58] <lool> See you later
[14:58] <ogra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25434/
[14:58] <ogra> yep, ciao :)
[14:58] <lool> ogra: Do you know how the QA people got their infrastructure and all?
[14:59] <ogra> stgraber might be able to tell you ... he wrote a lot of that
[14:59] <ogra> (and runs the isotracker and other tools)
[14:59] <lool> Wow you wrapper is really ugly
[14:59] <ogra> heh
[14:59] <ogra> yeah
[14:59] <lool> pkilling all dds
[15:00] <ogra> its the quick hack to make it workable for a start
[15:00] <ogra> i want the pkill part in the python code later 
[15:00] <lool> I'd love us to have some mobile.u.c infrastructure to host QA, polls and that kind of stuff; it's hard to come up with a non-transversal use case thopuhg
[15:00] <ogra> but i want something thats usable by tonight and dont want to put much more time into it :) 
[15:01] <lool> For instance if you consider blogs, well sure we could set this up, but it would make more sense to have a platform to host all team's blogs, or use launchpad
[15:01] <ogra> then announce it on the ML and see who picks it up to make it nicer :)
[15:01] <lool> Same for websites, for QA tests etc.
[15:01] <lool> ogra: Go ahead and announce it publicly!  \o/
[15:01] <ogra> as soon as it works ad i have a package :)
[15:01] <lool> ogra: When mvo pushed the first vmbs it inspired me to jump in and fix things which I wanted to improve
[15:01] <ogra> announcing working tools is usually better to attrackt devs
[15:02] <lool> yeah
[15:02] <lool> I didn't want to tell people about the mobile builder in the beginning because it wasn't using MIC
[15:02] <ogra> (better than just non working code)
[15:02] <lool> Wasn't pulling from ppa, that kind of things
[15:02] <ogra> well, as long as you dont announce it as *the* MIC replacement :)
[15:03] <lool> What?  the tool to write images?
[15:03] <lool> We have time for this
[15:03] <lool> We don't even build dailies ATM
[15:03] <ogra> no i meant your mobile builder 
[15:04] <ogra> as long as you dont say its *the* replacement for MIC but just announce it as another tool to build images nobody can complain :)
[15:04] <lool> vmb is *only* for vms
[15:05] <ogra> ah
[15:05] <lool> MIC never did that and it's not meant to replace it
[15:05] <lool> virtual-mobile-builder
[15:05]  * lool really goes now
[15:14] <freet15> Hi 
[15:14] <pronto> hello
[15:15] <freet15> where I can get marvell-8686-fireware-9 ?
[15:15] <freet15> I use image creator to install this ,bu failed ...
[15:17] <freet15> show me an error msg " can`t install .... you should apt-get install -f" ? but, I can`t search anything about  this from  http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports hardy
[15:17] <freet15> pronto: :)
[15:17] <pronto> hrm i have idea  (i more or less just idle here)
[15:20] <freet15> any body use image creator has got this issue?
[15:53] <freet15> see u guys, goodnight :)
[18:47] <lool> asac: Around?
[18:47] <lool> galeon 2.0.6 release:
[18:47] <lool> +2.0.6 "Pining for the Fjords"
[18:47] <lool> +
[18:47] <lool> +- Works with Firefox 2  and 3 and xulrunner 1.8 and 1.9
[18:47] <lool> +  - Thanks to Alexander Sack <asac@ubuntu.com> and Loïc Minier <lool#dooz.org>
[18:47] <lool> +    for the xulrunner 1.9 patches.