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RainCTgood night00:26
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ion_I’m sure spammers sincerely appreciate http://revu.tauware.de/uploaders.list :-)00:44
ion_Could someone please review <http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=compcache>? Thanks.00:54
bliZZardzQA target site(http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/) seems to be down03:24
wgrantbliZZardz: Works for me.03:29
bliZZardzah! eternal damnation!03:35
wgrantI could always add a firewall rule to block you if you really want it to be down.03:38
bliZZardz:) ..and why would you do that03:39
kostmoanyone available to review my pyrocket package?  Comments from previous submission have been addressed.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/24291004:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 242910 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] pyrocket" [Wishlist,In progress]04:08
ScottKkostmo: The link to the package on REVU is the one that potential reviewers are most likely to be interested in.04:44
kostmoI wasn't sure which I should give, the REVU package link is present on the launchpad bug, tho04:45
kostmohttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=270704:45
brandonperryScottK, the avscan package for hardy still needs updating for libclamav4 right?04:47
brandonperryor am I not seeing something04:48
ScottKbrandonperry: It does.  There's a new upstream release that supports it that needs to be packaged.  Unfortunately the new avscan also needs a new libendeavour2, which also needs packaging.04:48
brandonperryhrm04:48
ScottKIt's still broken in Intrepid too.04:48
ScottKAnd the Debian Mainter just orphaned the package.04:49
brandonperryok04:49
ScottKSo if you like avscan, you might want to look into packaging the update ...04:49
brandonperrywell, I don't use it :-)04:50
ScottKIt'll probably get removed from Debian and I'll ask for removal in Ubuntu before Intrepid releases unless it gets fixed.04:50
brandonperryprefer regualr clamscan04:50
ScottKNah.  Me neither.04:50
brandonperryI found some free time, so I will look into it tomorrow (looking at the debian packages for libendeavour2 now04:51
ScottKkostmo: Think about making your potential reviewer's life easier.  He's got to get the REVU link, so don't make him work harder.04:51
ScottKbrandonperry: Cool.  If you need advice or sponsorship (in Ubuntu, I'm not a DD), let me know.04:51
brandonperryok, thanks :-)04:52
kostmoScottK: gotcha04:53
kostmoHow does one clear out packages from the PPA?  I deleted all packages from my PPA, but it still rejects my uploads saying that that version "is already accepted in ubuntu/hardy and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution"05:16
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wgrantkostmo: That isn't how Debian archives work.07:16
kostmo?07:23
kostmoif I upload a package w/ a specific version to my personal package archive, is it there forever?07:23
wgrantYou can't upload the same version again.07:24
wgrantIf you could, it would break upgrades for anybody using your PPA.07:24
kostmoah i c07:28
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mouzOn https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/DesktopFiles it says 'Verify that the package is not listed below as not needing a .desktop file'. I can not find such a list. Would anyone (Riddell?) know where I can find it?09:26
kgoetzhi motu. could i set python-launchpad-bugs to build and install against 2.4.4 instead of 2.5 with success?11:10
RainCTthekorn: ^11:11
thekornkgoetz, sorry I'm not familiar with packaging, but python-launchpad-bugs is supposed to work with python2.411:13
kgoetzthekorn: i'll try changing the build+install deps to 2.4. thank you.11:15
RainCTkgoetz: I'm not really familiar with the package, but changing the install deps should do11:25
RainCTkgoetz: ... in the case you would want to install it on a system without python2.511:26
RainCTkgoetz: if you just want to use it with python2.4 but have 2.5 installed this should already be possible, as it is currently being build for both versions (or at least the version in Intrepid)11:27
kgoetzRainCT: i dont have python2.5 (i'm running etch)11:27
RainCTkgoetz: ah ok. yes, then just change them down11:29
* kgoetz suspects it'll be faster to install an ubuntu chroot then it will to backport half the world to run 5-a-d11:29
kgoetzi'll be going with the chroot idea - i dont have a  good enough grip on 5-a-day (and its depends) to know which dependancies can be changed and which cant11:52
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kgoetzslightly ot - how much ram does a pbuilder instance take? i'm sort of wondering how much more disk thrashing i'll get by building all packages in pbuilders rather then in a chroot (i'll be doign scripted rebuilds of a package set)13:43
geserkgoetz: pbuilder uses chroots by default13:45
kgoetzgeser: iirc "disposable" chroots though (as oposed to a shared chroot for all package builds, ala a buildd)13:46
geseryes, pbuilder unpacks the base.tgz into a fresh dir and chroot there and removes it afterwards13:50
geserif you have enough memory you can do it on a tmpfs13:51
kgoetzhow much memory would be 'enough'? 500mb? 1gb?13:55
gesermy tmpfs for my pbuilder is 2 GB and the build takes 600MB-1GB of it (depending on the package)13:57
geserI've 4 GB in total13:57
geseran other idea is to use sbuild with LVM snapshots13:58
kgoetzmight have to beef up my build system then. only got 512 in it13:58
kgoetzi dont have lvm13:58
geserpbuilder isn't that bad, but the unpacking of the base.tgz to the disk and the removal afterwards takes some time14:00
kgoetzmmm. understandable14:01
gnomefreakcrimsun: im gonna be gone for most of today but can you please give your opinion on bug 235135 its about what to backport with flash 10 (PA or libflash...)14:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 235135 in flashplugin-nonfree "[MASTER] Please backport flashplugin-nonfree version 10 beta and asound-plugins from Intrepid so we can drop libflashsupport and the crashes it causes" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23513514:13
ScottKkgoetz: I can pbuild most packages on a system with 256MB RAM, but it's pretty slow.  I wouldn't do more than one at a time though.14:26
kgoetzScottK cheers. so more ram ==good, but not required. i'll think about finding more for it :)14:27
ScottKEclipse won't build in less than 2GB, but other than that, I think I've been able to build most any package.14:28
kgoetzLinux and OO.o will be the largest things i build (not that they are small)14:33
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hefe_biaLucidFox: Hi, could you have another look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=tomboy-blogposter ? I hope it's really ready now ;)15:49
LucidFoxhefe_bia> It's best to address all reviewers in general15:53
LucidFoxOne reviewer may catch something the other doesn't, and vice versa15:53
hefe_biaLucidFox: Ok, I see. Then - is it at all ok to actively ask for a review?15:56
ScottK-laptophefe_bia: Nominally about once a day unless it's a REVU day.  Then more often, but what you just posted will do for now.16:03
hefe_biaok, thanks.16:08
geserhefe_bia: FTBFS for me16:12
geserhefe_bia: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/25454/ for the error log16:13
hefe_biageser: thanks! I'll look into it. What system did you use to build? pbuilder?16:15
geserintrepid pbuilder on AMD6416:15
brandonperryanyone know why I would get this error?16:20
brandonperrymake: *** No rule to make target `--prefix=/usr', needed by `build'.  Stop.16:20
brandonperrythat is after ./configure16:20
bliZZardzbrandonperry : well - something to do with the library path setting16:21
bliZZardzbrandonperry : some lib file is missing16:22
brandonperryhrm16:22
brandonperrythis is my first package, would you mind looking at the rules file to make sure it isn't syntactical?16:22
brandonperryoh, wait16:24
brandonperryI think I found it16:24
bliZZardz:)16:24
DRebellionWould somebody mind reviewing my package? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=monkeystudio Thanks ;)16:35
bliZZardzbrandonperry : what was the problem?16:36
brandonperrywell, I have another problem now, but I had the build commands in build: instead of build-stamp:16:38
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bliZZardzi read from somewhere that debian follows a unique election policy for packet mgmt - is it still in use?16:50
kgoetzhuh?16:52
hefe_biageser: Shame on me! I didn't test again after changing the manpage to lower case. I guess I have learned my lesson... Fixed version is in revu now.17:06
JDCarrollping17:52
JDCarrollAnybody actually in here?17:53
Nafallo.17:57
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brandonperryScottK: you around?18:28
ScottKVaguely.18:28
brandonperryI just finished packaging endeavour218:28
ScottKOK.18:28
ScottKHow'd it go?18:29
brandonperryshould I upload it to REVU?18:29
brandonperryonce I got past the learning curve, not a problem18:29
ScottKNo.  File an bug against the package tag it 'upgrade', attached the diff.gz to the bug and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors.18:29
ScottKREVU is just supposed to be for brand new packages now.18:29
brandonperryok18:29
brandonperrythanks18:29
ScottKI'll try and take a look at it in the next day or two if no one else gets it first.18:30
ScottKYou can also upload it to the ubuntu-clamav PPA since you're a member.18:30
ScottKYou did join that team, right?18:30
brandonperryuh, don't think so18:30
ScottKIf you do, you'll be able to upload stuff to it's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clamav18:32
* ScottK runs of for a bit.18:32
brandonperrydone (attaching the diff)18:38
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LaibschI was trying to recompile gnucash in a pbuilder environment and it failed: http://oss.leggewie.org/wip/gnucash_2.2.4-1ubuntu1_i386.build Is the package faulty or my pbuilder installation?  I don't really understand the errors I see and would appreciate some help20:05
sebnerLaibsch: dpkg-deb: building package `gnucash' in `../gnucash_2.2.4-1ubuntu1_i386.deb'.20:09
sebner <-- It didn't fail ;)20:09
LaibschOh, really?20:09
LaibschI was suspicious and looked for the package but did not find it20:10
geserLaibsch: yes, it was successfull20:10
Laibschall those "error messages" confused me20:10
LaibschGood to know20:10
gesercheck /var/cache/pbuilder/result20:10
LaibschI'd rather not have a broken pbuilder ;-)20:10
LaibschThanks guys20:10
LaibschAh, right20:10
LaibschI checked ../*.deb as I am used to with plain debuild20:11
AstralJavaYou can change that in /etc/pbuilderrc or ~/.pbuilderrc20:11
Laibschwell, it's empty!20:12
LaibschBut I have restarted the build20:12
LaibschMaybe that deleted the old file20:12
geserno20:12
geserLaibsch: does your pbuilder use /usr/src/pbuilder? then check /usr/src/pbuilder/results20:13
sebneremgent: \o/20:14
emgenthello there20:16
AstralJavageser: Looks like it: -> extracting base tarball [/usr/src/pbuilder/base.tgz]20:20
AstralJavaDoesn't have to mean that, sure, but...20:20
Laibsch /usr/src/pbuilder/result it is20:25
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RainCTIs there some command to find all packages which I installed from Intrepid?21:40
RainCT(nautilus crashes each time I select an icon and I guess that's because I pulled some libs from there recently)21:41
geserRainCT: try apt-show-versions21:42
RainCTgeser: thanks21:42
ChipzzRainCT: for individual packages, you can also use apt-cache policy21:48
Chipzzanyone in here with experience wrt php extension packaging?21:49
nxvlRainCT: have you some time to review a package for me?22:08
RainCTnxvl: hm.. yea, I could have a look. What's the URL?22:16
nxvlRainCT: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=augeas22:17
* nxvl HUGS RainCT 22:18
affluxhi22:29
RainCTnxvl: ./missing and ./ylwrap aren't part of augeas itself, or? (they have different copyright holders)22:44
jpdsCan Debian packaging be licensed under a license such as the BSD license?22:46
* nxvl looks22:47
ion_Yes AFAIK, i’d suggest using the same (free) license as the upstream.22:48
nxvlright22:48
nxvli didn't notice them22:48
* nxvl changes22:48
jpdsion_: Cheers.22:48
RainCTnxvl: egrep rules ;)  /me always uses "egrep -ri copyright *" to find the authors and if the list is very long later adds "| grep -v known_author1 | grep -v known_author2 | etc.." to ensure that he hasn't missed anyone22:50
nxvlRainCT: i was using a different script, thanks for the suggestion!22:50
RainCTnxvl: also, you say where the LGPL is, but not where to find the GPL22:50
RainCT(I mean the "On Debian systems,.." line)22:51
nxvlright22:51
* RainCT also notes that he uses to remove the "you should have received a copy..." part of the *GPL headers -- but that's just me :)22:53
RainCTnxvl: you have't addressed norsetto's point about the package descriptions being messy22:54
nxvlyes, i did22:54
* nxvl rechecks22:54
RainCTnxvl: augeas-tools and libaugeas-dev start with "this package" and later has "augeas is"; libaugeas0 and augeas-lenses have it in the inverted order (which is way more common)22:55
nxvlRainCT: uploading new version with the suggestions22:58
RainCTnxvl: and you can remove lines 3-7 from debian/rules22:59
RainCTah, nvm if you've already uploaded it22:59
nxvlchanged anyway in case i need to upload more versions of it23:00
nxvl:D23:00
RainCTok.. building23:05
dusharaWould like to add/maintain packages in http://sinhala.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/i386/hardy/ could anyone be a mentor?23:07
nxvlRainCT: revu already got last version23:07
RainCT-    - Fix configuration file path for grub (Debian systems only).23:07
RainCT+    - Fix configuration file path.23:07
nxvlRainCT: but is a debian systems change23:08
nxvlRainCT: the original was a RedHat based sistems change23:08
* RainCT ment why you have reverted the changelog entry.. the larger one was better23:10
nxvloh23:11
nxvlyes23:11
nxvlit should be larger one23:11
* nxvl checks23:11
nxvloh, you are right23:11
* nxvl reverts23:12
nxvlreverted and uploading23:13
nxvlRainCT: changes are already in revu23:20
RainCTuhm.. shouldn't "editing" be "edition" in the description?23:24
nxvlRainCT: on which of them?23:24
RainCTjpds: "Augeas is a configuration editing tool" is this right?23:24
nxvlRainCT: it's a c&p from upstream23:25
nxvlRainCT: http://augeas.net/23:25
RainCTwell, upstream doesn't need to be right.. although perhaps it is23:26
RainCTnxvl: I haven't noticed it before but I guess the second paragraph in the libaugeas0 description should either be in all other descriptions or be removed from there. and in augeas-lenses paragraph 2 and 3 say basically the same :P23:28
RainCTnxvl: it looks quite good otherwise, I just need to test-install the .deb's once aptitude finishes what it is doing right now23:29
nxvlmmm i don't remember why i change the -lenses description that way23:31
nxvlbut you are right, they say the same in different works23:31
nxvland the libaugeas0, yes, it needs to be removed23:31
nxvlthat's explained on the 1st paragraph23:31
RainCTargh.. there's a nice bug in gdebi :P23:47
RainCTit says [y/N] when it asks for confirmation, but doesn't accept "y" (only the localized version, "s" for Sí)23:48
nxvlthat's why i use my system in english and not in spanish23:50
nxvl:D23:50
RainCTwell, one of the reasons I do it the opposite is that this way I can find bugs :P23:51
nxvlyes, but if you got an error, in english is easier to find a solution using google23:51
nxvl:P23:51
RainCTand I use ugly paths with spaces and special characters for the same reason.. so when I test a program or write one myself, if it doesn't properly support  unicode paths I will notice it :P23:52
RainCT(well, but only for my data, which I usually check with nautilus.. the development stuff has nice, one word paths, as else I'd get mad :P)23:52
RainCTanyway.. how can I check if augtools is working? :P23:53
nxvlyes, but it's a matter of "i want it to work for me" vs "i want to destroy it"23:53
RainCTnxvl: <RainCT> anyway.. how can I check if augtools is working? :P23:59

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