| gnomefreak | why doesnt ddebs repos have multiverse or restricted debugging packages (are they strickly built with the package as a rule? | 10:44 |
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| gnomefreak | another stupid question. why did i just hear firefox is going to beable to add repos to sources.list file (it would need root adn running firefox as root is bad | 15:59 |
| gnomefreak | asac: fta2 adding this to address apt://ubuntu-restricted-extras will cause another app to start to allow you to edit sources.list file do you know about this and what app is it :( | 16:13 |
| Volans | gnomefreak: from "ps fax" -> /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/apturl apt://ubuntu-restricted-extras | 16:15 |
| gnomefreak | thought it was apturl | 16:15 |
| Volans | this is the script that show me an alert box with the text: install additional software? and it is not localized the message itself | 16:16 |
| gnomefreak | no but it is apturl that is running it | 16:17 |
| stek79_ | Hi guys, is there anyone willing to speak about Firefox 3 performance? | 18:41 |
| gnomefreak | stek79_: not likely today (im trying to get out for the day) and noone else is really here other than Volans and i think hes workiong on something else atm | 18:43 |
| Volans | I'm there if needed stek79_ but I don't have made any FF3 performance test | 18:44 |
| stek79_ | hello guys! It's the first time for me here on ubuntu channels | 18:44 |
| stek79_ | first of all let me say congrats for the great work | 18:45 |
| stek79_ | I would like to speak about a bug we have on launchpad, regarding ff3 slowness in gmail | 18:45 |
| Volans | what bug? just tell bug number | 18:46 |
| stek79_ | I made some performance tests, as you can see in the bug 217580 | 18:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 217580 in xulrunner-1.9 "Slow performance with Gmail" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217580 | 18:46 |
| stek79_ | yes | 18:46 |
| Volans | there is a fix committed as I see... | 18:47 |
| stek79_ | as I stated in the thread, I'm willing to try to take some measurements and track this down | 18:47 |
| stek79_ | I have hardy updated but the slowness is still there, as you can see also from other reports | 18:48 |
| stek79_ | basically my CPU goes to 100% during a simple scrolling | 18:48 |
| stek79_ | 50% is taken by FF | 18:48 |
| stek79_ | the other 50% by Xorg | 18:48 |
| stek79_ | as you can see from my top measuerements | 18:48 |
| Volans | mmmh at first sight is not a simple trick and I see that asac have worked on it, I think that is better if you talk with him, usually he is there on working day for many hours | 18:49 |
| stek79_ | perhaps we can use a profiler to track this down? | 18:49 |
| gnomefreak | fix commited doesnt mean it is fixed it just means its being worked on for most part | 18:49 |
| Volans | gnomefreak: I have read that now that the fix doesn't work for all | 18:50 |
| stek79_ | yes, Alexander worked on this issue | 18:50 |
| gnomefreak | its possible | 18:50 |
| gnomefreak | stek79_: is this the classifer bug? | 18:50 |
| * gnomefreak looks | 18:51 | |
| stek79_ | no, the url.classifier bug is related to great IO activity, I have had this bug too but now up to me this is fixed | 18:52 |
| gnomefreak | lets put it this way LP bug should not be set to fix commited since upstream hasnt fixed it yet | 18:52 |
| stek79_ | no more slowdowns regarding that bug | 18:52 |
| gnomefreak | who set it to fix commited | 18:52 |
| stek79_ | I don't know, can we discover that? | 18:52 |
| gnomefreak | asac: did you patch fro upstream on that? | 18:52 |
| gnomefreak | stek79_: i foud out | 18:52 |
| gnomefreak | found* | 18:53 |
| * gnomefreak wonders if he just picked a patch and applied it and tested in small area | 18:53 | |
| stek79_ | what did you found? | 18:53 |
| gnomefreak | stek79_: are you sure its the same bug? | 18:54 |
| gnomefreak | you are seeing dots or dashes? | 18:54 |
| gnomefreak | hi [reed] | 18:54 |
| gnomefreak | Looks like dashed borders are no better than dotted ones. This page has a lot | 18:54 |
| stek79_ | sorry gnomefreak, I can't understand what you say | 18:54 |
| gnomefreak | of long dashed borders, while a major border rewrite bug is slow scrolling with | 18:55 |
| gnomefreak | long dotted borders. | 18:55 |
| gnomefreak | that is the bug is that what you are seeing? | 18:55 |
| [reed] | hi, gnomefreak | 18:55 |
| gnomefreak | if not you dont have same bug | 18:55 |
| stek79_ | mmm perhaps is that one, how can I make sure? | 18:55 |
| gnomefreak | afaik the dashes and dots on boarders is gone | 18:55 |
| gnomefreak | stek79_: read the upstream bug and see if you have same dots and dashes | 18:56 |
| gnomefreak | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422330 | 18:56 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 422330 in Layout "Slow scrolling performance with dotted or dashed borders" [Normal,New] | 18:56 |
| gnomefreak | that is easy way to tell | 18:56 |
| stek79_ | ok, I'm going to read it and let you know | 18:56 |
| gnomefreak | but just slow on gmail is not the same and there are many causes to this | 18:56 |
| gnomefreak | gmail being the biggest cause | 18:56 |
| gnomefreak | google domain not just gmail | 18:56 |
| stek79_ | this is a good point: there are some sites where the performance is slow. Gmail is the one I use the most, but other users have reported other sites also that were really slow ( I tried them myself ) | 18:57 |
| stek79_ | perhaps is related to this bug, let me read it | 18:57 |
| gnomefreak | stek79_: gmail hasnt updated for ff3.0 that i am aware of | 18:58 |
| gnomefreak | 18:58 | |
| gnomefreak | damnit i have to stop saying gmail | 18:58 |
| armin76 | gmail | 18:58 |
| gnomefreak | some of the sites have updated support but some are still issues so it may not be googles fault now | 18:58 |
| stek79_ | I don't know if it helps, but FF3 on win XP works good | 18:59 |
| stek79_ | fast everywhere and no CPU spikes on gmail | 19:00 |
| gnomefreak | stek79_: no way too different of a build | 19:00 |
| gnomefreak | its been so long im not even sure what xp uses to draw X | 19:01 |
| stek79_ | ok, I read some bug posts on the upstream bug | 19:01 |
| stek79_ | I don't know if this is the problem that we're facing, I don't see dotted or dashed lines on gmail | 19:02 |
| stek79_ | have you every used it? | 19:02 |
| gnomefreak | than its not same bug. either bug was marked wrong or its the same and your seeing a different bug | 19:03 |
| gnomefreak | have i ever used what? | 19:03 |
| stek79_ | gmail, do you have an account? | 19:03 |
| gnomefreak | if gmail i have 8 or 9 gmail addresses | 19:03 |
| gnomefreak | so i would say yes but i dont use the UI for it most of time | 19:03 |
| stek79_ | don't you see slowdowns during scrolling with CPU spikes? | 19:03 |
| gnomefreak | thats why they made evo thunderbird outlook so you dont have to go to 8 or 9 pages to get mail | 19:04 |
| stek79_ | it is enough to scroll the index page, with mouse wheel | 19:04 |
| stek79_ | ok :) | 19:04 |
| gnomefreak | stek79_: with 800+ a day in one box and 500+ a day in another i would never use the ui | 19:04 |
| gnomefreak | take too damn long to scroll anywya | 19:04 |
| gnomefreak | anyway | 19:04 |
| stek79_ | I understand... | 19:04 |
| stek79_ | there were some other sites reported, let me see if I can find one | 19:05 |
| stek79_ | that bug had also a duplicate (or a first part), some posts are on the other one I think | 19:05 |
| gnomefreak | stek79_: there are alot of slow scrolling bugs in LP on firefox3 | 19:05 |
| * gnomefreak gone for day i did my hardy work for the week | 19:06 | |
| stek79_ | ok, many thanks for the help | 19:07 |
| * Volans gone for dinner... maybe come back later | 19:43 | |
| * kgoetz removes FF2 from his dev list, an focuses on 3.x | 20:01 | |
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