[10:44] <gnomefreak> why doesnt ddebs repos have multiverse or restricted debugging packages (are they strickly built with the package as a rule?
[15:59] <gnomefreak> another stupid question. why did i just hear firefox is going to beable to add repos to sources.list file (it would need root adn running firefox as root is bad
[16:13] <gnomefreak> asac: fta2 adding this to address apt://ubuntu-restricted-extras will cause another app to start to allow you to edit sources.list file do you know about this and what app is it :(
[16:15] <Volans> gnomefreak: from "ps fax" ->  /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/apturl apt://ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:15] <gnomefreak> thought it was apturl
[16:16] <Volans> this is the script that show me an alert box with the text: install additional software? and it is not localized the message itself
[16:17] <gnomefreak> no but it is apturl that is running it
[18:41] <stek79_> Hi guys, is there anyone willing to speak about Firefox 3 performance?
[18:43] <gnomefreak> stek79_: not likely today (im trying to get out for the day) and noone else is really here other than Volans and i think hes workiong on something else atm
[18:44] <Volans> I'm there if needed stek79_ but I don't have made any FF3 performance test
[18:44] <stek79_> hello guys! It's the first time for me here on ubuntu channels
[18:45] <stek79_> first of all let me say congrats for the great work
[18:45] <stek79_> I would like to speak about a bug we have on launchpad, regarding ff3 slowness in gmail
[18:46] <Volans> what bug? just tell bug number
[18:46] <stek79_> I made some performance tests, as you can see in the bug 217580
[18:46] <stek79_> yes
[18:47] <Volans> there is a fix committed as I see...
[18:47] <stek79_> as I stated in the thread, I'm willing to try to take some measurements and track this down
[18:48] <stek79_> I have hardy updated but the slowness is still there, as you can see also from other reports
[18:48] <stek79_> basically my CPU goes to 100% during a simple scrolling
[18:48] <stek79_> 50% is taken by FF
[18:48] <stek79_> the other 50% by Xorg
[18:48] <stek79_> as you can see from my top measuerements
[18:49] <Volans> mmmh at first sight is not a simple trick and I see that asac have worked on it, I think that is better if you talk with him, usually he is there on working day for many hours
[18:49] <stek79_> perhaps we can use a profiler to track this down?
[18:49] <gnomefreak> fix commited doesnt mean it is fixed it just means its being worked on for most part
[18:50] <Volans> gnomefreak: I have read that now that the fix doesn't work for all
[18:50] <stek79_> yes, Alexander worked on this issue
[18:50] <gnomefreak> its possible
[18:50] <gnomefreak> stek79_: is this the classifer bug?
[18:51]  * gnomefreak looks
[18:52] <stek79_> no, the url.classifier bug is related to great IO activity, I have had this bug too but now up to me this is fixed
[18:52] <gnomefreak> lets put it this way LP bug should not be set to fix commited since upstream hasnt fixed it yet
[18:52] <stek79_> no more slowdowns regarding that bug
[18:52] <gnomefreak> who set it to fix commited
[18:52] <stek79_> I don't know, can we discover that?
[18:52] <gnomefreak> asac: did you patch fro upstream on that?
[18:52] <gnomefreak> stek79_: i foud out
[18:53] <gnomefreak> found*
[18:53]  * gnomefreak wonders if he just picked a patch and applied it and tested in small area
[18:53] <stek79_> what did you found?
[18:54] <gnomefreak> stek79_: are you sure its the same bug?
[18:54] <gnomefreak> you are seeing dots or dashes?
[18:54] <gnomefreak> hi [reed]
[18:54] <gnomefreak> Looks like dashed borders are no better than dotted ones. This page has a lot
[18:54] <stek79_> sorry gnomefreak, I can't understand what you say
[18:55] <gnomefreak> of long dashed borders, while a major border rewrite bug is slow scrolling with
[18:55] <gnomefreak> long dotted borders.
[18:55] <gnomefreak> that is the bug is that what you are seeing?
[18:55] <[reed]> hi, gnomefreak
[18:55] <gnomefreak> if not you dont have same bug
[18:55] <stek79_> mmm perhaps is that one, how can I make sure?
[18:55] <gnomefreak> afaik the dashes and dots on boarders is gone
[18:56] <gnomefreak> stek79_: read the upstream bug and see if you have same dots and dashes
[18:56] <gnomefreak> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422330
[18:56] <gnomefreak> that is easy way to tell
[18:56] <stek79_> ok, I'm going to read it and let you know
[18:56] <gnomefreak> but just slow on gmail is not the same and there are many causes to this
[18:56] <gnomefreak> gmail being the biggest cause
[18:56] <gnomefreak> google domain not just gmail
[18:57] <stek79_> this is a good point: there are some sites where the performance is slow. Gmail is the one I use the most, but other users have reported other sites also that were really slow ( I tried them myself )
[18:57] <stek79_> perhaps is related to this bug, let me read it
[18:58] <gnomefreak> stek79_: gmail hasnt updated for ff3.0 that i am aware of
[18:58] <gnomefreak> google
[18:58] <gnomefreak> damnit i have to stop saying gmail
[18:58] <armin76> gmail
[18:58] <gnomefreak> some of the sites have updated support but some are still issues so it may not be googles fault now
[18:59] <stek79_> I don't know if it helps, but FF3 on win XP works good
[19:00] <stek79_> fast everywhere and no CPU spikes on gmail
[19:00] <gnomefreak> stek79_: no way too different of a build
[19:01] <gnomefreak> its been so long im not even sure what xp uses to draw X
[19:01] <stek79_> ok, I read some bug posts on the upstream bug
[19:02] <stek79_> I don't know if this is the problem that we're facing, I don't see dotted or dashed lines on gmail
[19:02] <stek79_> have you every used it?
[19:03] <gnomefreak> than its not same bug. either bug was marked wrong or its the same and your seeing a different bug
[19:03] <gnomefreak> have i ever used what?
[19:03] <stek79_> gmail, do you have an account?
[19:03] <gnomefreak> if gmail i have 8 or 9 gmail addresses
[19:03] <gnomefreak> so i would say yes but i dont use the UI for it most of time
[19:03] <stek79_> don't you see slowdowns during scrolling with CPU spikes?
[19:04] <gnomefreak> thats why they made evo thunderbird outlook so you dont have to go to 8 or 9 pages to get mail
[19:04] <stek79_> it is enough to scroll the index page, with mouse wheel
[19:04] <stek79_> ok :)
[19:04] <gnomefreak> stek79_: with 800+ a day in one box and 500+ a day in another i would never use the ui
[19:04] <gnomefreak> take too damn long to scroll anywya
[19:04] <gnomefreak> anyway
[19:04] <stek79_> I understand...
[19:05] <stek79_> there were some other sites reported, let me see if I can find one
[19:05] <stek79_> that bug had also a duplicate (or a first part), some posts are on the other one I think
[19:05] <gnomefreak> stek79_: there are alot of slow scrolling bugs in LP on firefox3
[19:06]  * gnomefreak gone for day i did my hardy work for the week
[19:07] <stek79_> ok, many thanks for the help
[19:43]  * Volans gone for dinner... maybe come back later
[20:01]  * kgoetz removes FF2 from his dev list, an focuses on 3.x