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tgm4883_laptoppretender_, pastebin your /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log00:02
pretender_Whats paste pastebin? bringing up the log now00:10
rhpot1991!pastbin | pretender_00:19
ZinnSorry I don't know about pastbin00:19
rhpot1991!pastebin | pretender_00:20
Zinnpretender_: Please use paste.ubuntu.com for all configs or multiple line output, pastebin is preferred for large amounts of output as it cuts down on spamming multiple lines.00:20
pretender_i have pasted the log as advised00:22
rhpot1991now paste the url to it in here so tgm4883_laptop can see it00:22
pretender_http://paste.ubuntu.com/25291/00:23
pretender_thanks00:23
tgm4883_laptopwow00:24
tgm4883_laptopso, how many steps of mythtv-setup did you do?  one?....two at the most?00:24
pretender_i used mythbuntu then ran through all the menues in mythtv-setup00:25
tgm4883_laptopexcept the ones where you link the card to some channel guide?00:26
tgm4883_laptopand / isn't a suitable place for recordings00:26
tgm4883_laptopwell first things first00:27
tgm4883_laptopgo back into mythtv-setup, and set a recording directory that can be written to00:27
tgm4883_laptoplike /mythtv00:28
tgm4883_laptopthen make it writable by mythtv:mythtv00:28
tgm4883_laptopand 775 it00:28
tgm4883_laptopthen make sure you have a channel lineup in step 3 of mythtv-setup00:28
tgm4883_laptopand have linked it to a card in step 400:28
pretender_i know / isn't good how can i delete that location i can only see add as an option not delete00:31
tgm4883_laptopselect it and hit d00:32
pretender_thanks ill try do as advised and come back to the irc later if i'm still having trouble00:33
bmathishello01:32
bmathisdoes anyone have a recommendation on a cheap machine for backend and frontend... maybe barebones or a full desktop?01:33
bmathismaybe a cheap machine for  just a front end?01:35
stoneymonstertrying to do a second debuild after pulling the source with apt-get source mythtv fails, even after "debuild clean" any suggestions? I don't want to redo all my patches...02:02
stoneymonsterhad to remove the symlnk in programs/firewire-tester02:35
stoneymonsterdebuild clean didn't do that02:35
harmony32641Hi all,03:46
harmony32641I have a new pcHdtv5500 tuner that seems to be working during the channel scan03:46
harmony32641but when i choose "watch tv," it just returns to the menu03:46
harmony32641and I don't see any telling error messages in either the frontend or the backend logs.03:46
harmony32641What should I be looking for to get this working?03:46
harmony32641Thanks.03:47
tgm4883_laptopharmony32641, please pastebin your backend log03:51
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:  should i restart the frontend, backend or both, and/or try to "watch tv" before copying the log?03:52
tgm4883_laptopno03:53
tgm4883_laptopi'll have you do that if I don't see anything03:53
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:  ok, thanks, just a sec...03:53
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:  that's me on the other computer.  hmm...  ps shows the backend running but the log is empty!03:58
tgm4883_laptop/var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log is empty?03:58
rhpot1991tgm4883_laptop: was the old bot slow when it got bugs, or was it snappy?03:58
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991, depending on the load, it was relatively snappy03:59
tgm4883_laptopuntil the end, when it was hours later03:59
tgm4883_laptopbut usually we got bug reports in < 10 minutes03:59
rhpot1991LP is just slow in general with them03:59
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:  yes, completely empty (never saw that before).  this is a secondary backend/frontend.03:59
tgm4883_laptopwhat backend is your 5500 on?04:00
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:  this one, not the master.04:00
tgm4883_laptophmm04:01
tgm4883_laptoppastebin your master backend log04:01
rhpot1991tgm4883_laptop: it takes back about as long as it does to look up a bug via http04:02
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991, test?04:03
rhpot1991tgm4883_laptop: don't have it on him yet, I'll move it over in a bit, gonna go watch some TV first04:03
tgm4883_laptopk04:03
tgm4883_laptopi'll probably be watching vantage point later04:03
rhpot1991still waiting for netflix to get me that04:04
rhpot1991just gonna watch some recordings04:04
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:  my first pastebin, did that work?04:07
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:  my master backend also has a tuner that isn't working, a hvr950 usb stick.04:14
harmony32641it was working fine for a few weeks but now it's the same as the 5500:  just returns to the menu.04:14
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:  should i restart the master backend?04:27
harmony32641it seems like that log is mostly looping on a free space scan.04:27
harmony32641or should I dig around in the older logs and pastebin something from there?04:27
tgm4883_laptopharmony3264, what first pastebin?04:38
tgm4883_laptopyou have to post the link for us ;)04:38
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:  as i said:  my first pastebin.  let me see if i can find its link...04:40
harmony64322tgm4883_laptop:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25329/04:41
harmony64322is that it?04:41
tgm4883_laptophmm04:41
tgm4883_laptopis that from the master backend?04:41
harmony64322i meant "first ever"04:42
tgm4883_laptopah04:42
tgm4883_laptopok, do this04:42
tgm4883_laptoprestart the backend, then try watching something, then pastebin your backend log04:42
tgm4883_laptophopefully we will get something important04:42
harmony64322 tgm4883_laptop:  start watching on the remote frontend or on the backend, or do you care?04:43
tgm4883_laptopdon't care04:43
harmony64322 tgm4883_laptop:  nice!  maybe we'll get them both fixed!04:45
harmony64322tgm4883_laptop:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25329/04:48
harmony64322tgm4883_laptop:  oops, here's the new one:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25347/04:49
harmony64322tgm4883_laptop:  how about this:04:50
harmony643222008-07-05 23:45:46.834 DVBChan(4:0) Error: Opening DVB frontend device failed. eno: No such file or directory (2) ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database. Perhaps you should read the installation instructions?04:50
tgm4883_laptopyea that looks bad04:51
tgm4883_laptopdid you run through all the mythtv-setup steps?04:52
harmony64322 tgm4883_laptop:   yes, and this tuner was working (as you can see in the log there's like 300 hours of recordings i got before it quit).04:53
tgm4883_laptopwhat changed?04:53
tgm4883_laptopand which tuner is this?04:53
harmony64322i'm not sure if it's related but it quit about the same time as i had another problem:04:54
harmony64322i ran out of hd space and due to a permissions problem, it was unable to delete old recordings to make room.04:54
harmony64322 tgm4883_laptop:   this is the hvr950 usb stick.04:54
harmony64322 tgm4883_laptop:   other than that, i don't know of anything that changed.04:55
tgm4883_laptopdoesn't sound related, try deleting the tuner and readding it.  I'm gotta go watch a movie but will be back later.  Also, check your permissions on your recording dir and make sure it isn't in your home dir04:56
harmony64322 tgm4883_laptop:   ok, thanks a lot!04:56
pretendercant watch live tv on fresh install of ubuntu 8.04 and mythbuntu.  backend looks fine but when start mythfront end from cli i get the error live tv not started http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25352/05:03
hadsbackend log05:17
pretenderhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25356/05:22
hadsSG(LiveTV) Error: FindNextDirMostFree: '/var/lib/mythtv/Livetv' does not exist!05:29
Nostahlwoooo just got my fav movie on the mythbox now05:32
NostahlWaterworld!05:32
bmathishello. When I log into my myth box via ssh i get the following error: Unable to access MythTV Perl API  Try with --verbose to find out why.05:45
Nostahlwhat does verbose say05:45
hadsProbably mythtv-status05:45
bmathisi dont know, whats the command?05:45
testerToohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740473&page=6#post522117506:22
testerToodisregard.06:23
tgm4883_laptopharmony3264, progress?06:25
thedarkoneWattoDaToydarian /etc/fstab06:42
harmony3264tgm4883_laptop:07:41
harmony3264Ok, i deleted all capture cards on my master backend,07:41
harmony3264   then tried to re-add but now the WIN_HVR_950 is not recognized:07:41
harmony3264Capture Card Setup07:41
harmony3264   Card type:  DVB DTV capture card (v3.x)07:41
harmony3264   Frontend ID:07:41
harmony3264      Could not get card info for card #0 Subtype:  Unknown error07:41
harmony3264I originally followed the directions from post #53 here:07:41
harmony3264   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740473&page=6#post522117507:41
harmony3264and as it said, I rebooted and it was recognized in mythtv-setup as07:41
harmony3264 DVB DTV capture card (v3.x)07:41
harmony3264but he doesn't say what the module's name is07:41
harmony3264and I can't tell what it is from looking inside the make file.07:41
harmony3264I'm considering starting over with these directions:07:41
harmony3264http://u32.net/MythTV/WinTV-HVR-950/07:41
harmony3264or would that mess something up, or just be repetitious?07:41
harmony3264btw, my recordings dir is under my home dir07:41
harmony3264because I've mounted a raid there (Data) for them07:41
harmony3264but i think it's ok because it was recording there fine07:41
harmony3264when the tuner's module would load.07:41
harmony3264 ls -l Data/mythtv07:41
harmony3264drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 16384 2008-07-06 02:24 recordings07:41
harmony3264 tgm4883_laptop:   I'm going to get something to eat but I will check back here.08:08
harmony3264Thanks again!08:08
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:   actually i just had to restart x on that machine.08:23
harmony32641I'll still check back in a while...08:23
tgm4883_laptopharmony32641, IIRC you have to rebuild that every time there is a kernel upgrade08:28
harmony32641 tgm4883_laptop:  yeah, a pain huh.08:38
harmony32641but I built it on 2.6.24-19 and I just checked that my kernel is still the same.08:38
jefferywhen I exit out of mythtv-setup, it says "Path live/ doesn't exist." ... where should I create the path?08:58
XLVi just installed mythbuntu, now i want it to have same desktop theme, menu/panel items etc as ubuntu, i have already installed ubuntu-desktop, can it be done?12:09
lagaXLV: log out, choose gnome as your session in gdm, log back in12:34
XLVlaga, thanks, i am using vnc to control htpc, cause its on a crt tv atm with svideo tvout at 1024x768, and its annoying to try to do any maintenance on it using the crt tv as display, so i couldnt see that mythbuntu offered there the option for WM12:39
noisymimeIf anyone would like to try out a new experimental myth frontend, gloss 0.1 has just been released, including packages for 8.04. Testing/feedback greatly appreciated.13:16
laganoisymime: great stuff. can't try it right now, though, my backend is offline13:17
AquahallicMornin' folks13:54
XLVmythbuntu comes with threaded fddshow included?14:06
XLVor i should try to install coreavc for linux?14:06
lagaffdshow? isn't that windows stuff? ;)14:07
lagamythtv in mythbuntu 8.04 can do multithreading for certain content14:07
XLVmy bad, i meant ffmpeg or whatever its called ;-)14:08
Aquahallicmythtv comes with ffmpeg but it doesn't come with the restricted. You have to enable the medibuntu repositories to get the restricted drivers.14:36
lagathe internal player in mythtv does not care about the ffmpeg packages14:38
gpdSo I installed ubuntu hardy, then apt-get installed mythbuntu-desktop.14:59
gpdnow i have a working system - but the mythconverg tables and mythtv user are not in the mysql15:00
gpdmythtv-setup doesn't want to do that stage - do i create by hand - or is there a reconfigure i should do?15:00
gpdprobably because I set a root password for mysql?15:15
lagagpd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database15:16
gpdlaga: fantastic - thank you! :)15:17
lagagpd: kudos for not forgetting your root password for mysql. :)15:18
Frans-WillemHas anyone every attempted to get the MythBuntu diskless client to login via LDAP and share the home dir from the server ?18:32
laganot me.18:34
lagai'd be interested in that, tho18:34
lagaFrans-Willem: you don't even need ldap if you just want the home dir18:38
Frans-WillemWell, I've considered just mounting the entire homedir or even just /home/mainuser, but I feel LDAP would be nicer :p18:50
lagai wasn't aware LDAP had special file sharing powers18:52
Frans-WillemWell, I'm not that sure about LDAP, but I'm afraid that things might get ugly if the credentials on the client and the server don't match18:53
lagano, LDAP doesnt seem to be able to transfer real files. or at least let you mount directories18:53
laga.. over the network18:53
Frans-WillemSo how would you do it then? simply share /home read-write and mount it on the clients ?18:54
foxbuntulaga, no but LDAP will allow you to create a home dir or at least universal creds to prevent issues when creating mount points18:54
lagafoxbuntu: what would be issues? different UID/GID on server and client?18:55
lagaFrans-Willem: yes, assuming the UIDs match. nfs-kernel-server doesn't really have any fancy UID mapping :( but that might have changed with nfs version 418:56
foxbuntuyeah...for the most part it wouldnt matter, the permissions just have to be matched up, it only becomes an issue with a large environment18:56
Frans-WillemSo would it be safe to just share /home ?18:57
Frans-WillemOr would it be better to mount /home to something like /var/cache/mythbuntu-diskless/clienthome ?18:58
Frans-Willem(Although that would make it complicated if your main box is supposed to be a frontend too18:58
foxbuntuFrans-Willem, why are you trying to share /home?18:59
Frans-Willemfoxbuntu: Because things like video covers are by default shared in the homedir18:59
foxbuntuFrans-Willem, create a shared location and symlink to it from the default location?19:00
foxbuntuthat would be much safer19:00
Frans-WillemHmmmz...19:01
Frans-WillemThat *is* a nice solution indeed :)19:01
Frans-WillemHadn't thought of that yet19:01
Frans-Willemso like creating /var/lib/mythtv/videocovers and "ln -s /var/lib/mythtv/videocovers /home/mainuser/.mythtv/MythVideo" on the server and "mainip:/var/lib/mythtv/videocovers /home/mainuser/.mythtv/MythVideo nfs ..." in the fstab of the clients ?19:03
foxbuntuno19:04
Frans-Willem?19:04
foxbuntunot far off19:04
foxbuntuyou want the /home location to think its a folder when it really is a symlink to the nfs location19:05
foxbuntuso the symlink is actually on the clients19:05
foxbuntuthe directory is on the server19:06
foxbuntuand the clients nfs mount to the server's shared directory19:06
foxbuntuso:19:06
foxbuntuOn Server1: /var/lib/mythtv/SharedFolder119:07
foxbuntuOn Client1: nfs mount /somedir/19:07
foxbuntu(which is the server location then)19:07
Frans-WillemOk, so to recap, on the server:19:08
foxbuntuthen On Client1: ln -s /home/someuser/.mythtv/MythVideo /somedir/19:08
Frans-WillemHow is that different to simply mounting /home/someuser/.mythtv/MythVideo to a network share ?19:09
foxbuntubecause you dont want your server writing to the /home directory19:09
foxbuntupermissions would get all screwed up to make it work19:09
foxbuntuyou want the server writing to a local spot that is shared to the clients and then if you want to use that default location symlink to it to maintain security19:10
Frans-WillemHmmm, just to be sure we're both on the same page19:11
Frans-Willemwhat's the difference between (on the client) doing either:19:11
Frans-Willemmount -t nfs 192.168.1.1:/var/lib/mythtv/videocovers /home/mainuser/.mythtv/MythVideo19:11
Frans-Willemand19:11
Frans-Willemmount -t nfs 192.168.1.1:/var/lib/mythtv/videocovers /var/lib/mythtv/videocovers19:12
Frans-Willemln -s /var/lib/mythtv/videocovers /home/mainuser/.mythtv/MythVideo19:12
Frans-WillemIsn't the second doing exactly the same as the former but with one extra redirection ?19:12
foxbuntuIm sorry I was misunderstanding what you were trying to accomplish before19:14
foxbuntuit sounded like you wanted to share /home and mount it on the server or other clients and write to the clients19:14
laga!spork foxbuntu19:14
ZinnSorry I don't know about spork foxbuntu19:14
foxbuntu!stab laga19:14
* Zinn stabs laga with a rusty spork.19:14
lagaah, thanks.19:14
Frans-Willemheh :p19:17
Frans-Willemfoxbuntu: Yes, that was one of my possible solutions19:18
Frans-WillemI was thinking about:19:18
Frans-Willem- Either creating a shared dir (safest, but requires me to create a seperate dir for every shared thing)19:19
Frans-Willem- Sharing /home on the server and mounting that on the clients (credentials fuckup, probably)19:19
Frans-Willem- Sharing a random dir (like /var/lib/mythtv/clienthome) and mounting that to /home on the clients (clients have same credentials, so less of a fuckup, but doesn't allow the server to be a frontend too)19:20
foxbuntuFrans-Willem, you have your ideas, my only advice is to stay away from sharing /home19:20
Frans-WillemBut that third solution looks safe too ?19:21
foxbuntuFrans-Willem, yeah...it wouldnt be an issue19:24
Frans-WillemK :)19:25
Frans-WillemSo who else is actually using the diskless setup ?19:30
foxbuntuFrans-Willem, you are the only one19:30
foxbuntu;)19:30
Frans-WillemOk, so let's say that I write down everything I did to make my config useful (e.g. shared media, everything working correctly), who should I send it to for review and possible inclusion in MythBuntu ?19:31
foxbuntuFrans-Willem, put it in a Wiki19:33
lagai wish i used the diskless tuff19:34
laga+s19:35
foxbuntulaga, that funny considering its your baby19:35
lagayeah19:36
laga:)19:36
lagai'm kinda glad it's so.. complete. all the functionality is there, and most stuff i'd consider adding is minor hacks to MCC19:36
foxbuntulaga, its really grown pretty quickly19:37
Frans-WillemIt's just great being able to put the main box outside of the living room, and simply have a completely passive box in the living room :)19:39
Frans-WillemIt's quite good actually, but there are quite a bit of things that I feel should've been in there by default19:41
Frans-Willeme.g. the mounting of the videos, music, and pictures dir19:41
lagayes19:42
lagabut you need lots of magic to do that.19:42
lagamaybe using bonjour..19:42
Frans-Willem:/19:42
Frans-WillemHell no :/19:42
lagait's kinda there. you can tell mythbuntu to export your stuff in MCC19:42
lagabut i'm not sure if mounting is automagic19:42
Frans-WillemFor mounting you need to add some lines to the fstab of the diskless one, and fix the lts.conf file to not rewrite it on each boot19:43
lagasuch things - shares etc could probably be put into the mysql DB. but you probably dont want to depend on that.19:43
lagafor mythtv itself, there'll probably be support for just streaming media using the mythtv protocol19:43
rhpot1991_laptopthe recordings dir and stuff get shared automagically IIRC19:44
rhpot1991_laptopvia samba19:44
lagarhpot1991_laptop: you need to enable it first19:44
rhpot1991_laptoponly works if you use the defualt as well19:44
rhpot1991_laptopits really not that hard to do that yourself either :)19:44
Frans-WillemHmm, I've got all dirs shared through samba and NFS, yet my diskless clients didn't mount it19:44
rhpot1991_laptopFrans-Willem: You need to setup your client to mount them19:45
lagarhpot1991_laptop: i meant to make it more dynamic by getting the location for the various directories from the DB, but i'm not sure if that happened.19:45
Frans-Willemrhpot1991_laptop: Are we talking about the Live CD or the Diskless setup? and if we're talking about the diskless setup, how did you set it up then ?19:46
* rhpot1991_laptop searches for a good wiki entry to describe the process19:46
Frans-WillemI basically just adjusted fstab myself19:46
lagarhpot1991_laptop: i think he already knows how to setup fstab19:47
rhpot1991_laptopah ok19:47
Frans-Willem:)19:47
Frans-WillemOh btw, did you also have to adjust lts.conf and add that extra "[default]" line ?19:48
rhpot1991_laptopmine isn't diskless, just another backend, all I did was added the shares to fstab myself19:48
Frans-WillemAh ok19:48
rhpot1991_laptopI don't use default shares either so I had to go and create them and all19:48
rhpot1991_laptops/shares/folders/19:48
lagaFrans-Willem: the [default] thing is a known bug, i just never got around to fixing it..19:49
Frans-WillemYeah, that's basically what I did, but on top of that I also had to add a line to lts.conf as that was missing and causing LTSP to syntax error and ignore the directive not to overwrite fstab19:49
lagawhich is a shame ;)19:49
rhpot1991_laptoplaga: I wonder if you could mysql all that and have clients/backends/etc read that upon install from the master backend19:49
lagarhpot1991_laptop: yeah, and if the mysqld is down? ;)19:50
rhpot1991_laptopepic failure19:50
lagaheh19:51
lagaindeed19:51
Frans-WillemIf the mysqld is down the whole backend is prolly down in which case your diskless client shouldn't be booting anyway :p19:51
lagaFrans-Willem: wanna bet?19:51
laga;)19:51
lagago to MCC, make a bootable thumb drive, check the "wake on lan" option, enter MAC address. done19:51
lagaalthough i have to admit i never really tested it ;)19:52
Frans-Willemheh :p19:53
Frans-WillemBtw, has anyone ever attempted making a mythbuntu backend without an actual videocard ?19:54
Frans-WillemLike have X run in VNC mode only ?19:54
m_tadeuhi everyone20:49
m_tadeuis there a way to display the mouse cursor?20:50
m_tadeuthink I got it :)20:58
lagaFrans-Willem: i'd probably use X tunneling in ssh21:17
Frans-Willemlaga: I use a Windows machine as my main desktop ;)21:21
rhpot1991_laptopFrans-Willem: you can still forward X to that, its a bit of a pain though21:21
rhpot1991_laptophave to get cygwin running to forward apps to21:21
Frans-WillemYeah, I've already looked at it before, and figured it'd be easier to just stick to VNC :p21:22
rhpot1991_laptopagreed21:22
talmagecCan anyone help me with mythtv setup?21:40
talmagecI have a Hauppauge winTV card and I built the device driver, tried to set up in backend, but all I get is a green screen when I try to watch tv.  Everything works fine in windows, so nothing wrong with cable source, etc.21:41
lagayou built the device driver?21:50
talmagecyes21:52
talmageci think its configuration of backend21:52
talmagecnot sure21:52
talmageci did the aptitude install mercurial build-essential linux-source, then cd /usr/local/src and then hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb followed by make & make install21:53
lagadoes it work in other applications?21:54
talmageci have only tried in windows21:55
talmageci haven't tried to get it to work in linux except in mythtv21:55
talmageci'm thinking it has something to do with backend setup21:55
lagawhy did you build the v4l-dvb drivers from hg?21:55
Frans-WillemMy Hauppauge WinTV 500MCE was pretty much plug and play, why would you want to build it from source :p?21:56
lagaanyways, i recommend trying it in another application first, like xawtv or mplayer21:56
talmageci was reading directions from linux magazine21:57
talmagecinstalling xawtv now21:58
talmageci'm going to reboot and brb21:59
talmageci cant get xawtv to even start22:02
talmagecno luck in motv either.22:10
talmageci'm in the USA using cable (no box), so i assume my settings are:  NTSC-M, us-cable22:11
talmagecis that right?22:11
bmathishello22:37
bmathisdoes anyone have a good walkthrough of setting up the remote that comes with a hauppauge pvr-150? I cant seem to get it to work, even with the mcc.22:38

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