[00:02] pretender_, pastebin your /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [00:10] Whats paste pastebin? bringing up the log now [00:19] !pastbin | pretender_ [00:19] Sorry I don't know about pastbin [00:20] !pastebin | pretender_ [00:20] pretender_: Please use paste.ubuntu.com for all configs or multiple line output, pastebin is preferred for large amounts of output as it cuts down on spamming multiple lines. [00:22] i have pasted the log as advised [00:22] now paste the url to it in here so tgm4883_laptop can see it [00:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/25291/ [00:23] thanks [00:24] wow [00:24] so, how many steps of mythtv-setup did you do? one?....two at the most? [00:25] i used mythbuntu then ran through all the menues in mythtv-setup [00:26] except the ones where you link the card to some channel guide? [00:26] and / isn't a suitable place for recordings [00:27] well first things first [00:27] go back into mythtv-setup, and set a recording directory that can be written to [00:28] like /mythtv [00:28] then make it writable by mythtv:mythtv [00:28] and 775 it [00:28] then make sure you have a channel lineup in step 3 of mythtv-setup [00:28] and have linked it to a card in step 4 [00:31] i know / isn't good how can i delete that location i can only see add as an option not delete [00:32] select it and hit d [00:33] thanks ill try do as advised and come back to the irc later if i'm still having trouble [01:32] hello [01:33] does anyone have a recommendation on a cheap machine for backend and frontend... maybe barebones or a full desktop? [01:35] maybe a cheap machine for just a front end? [02:02] trying to do a second debuild after pulling the source with apt-get source mythtv fails, even after "debuild clean" any suggestions? I don't want to redo all my patches... [02:35] had to remove the symlnk in programs/firewire-tester [02:35] debuild clean didn't do that [03:46] Hi all, [03:46] I have a new pcHdtv5500 tuner that seems to be working during the channel scan [03:46] but when i choose "watch tv," it just returns to the menu [03:46] and I don't see any telling error messages in either the frontend or the backend logs. [03:46] What should I be looking for to get this working? [03:47] Thanks. [03:51] harmony32641, please pastebin your backend log [03:52] tgm4883_laptop: should i restart the frontend, backend or both, and/or try to "watch tv" before copying the log? [03:53] no [03:53] i'll have you do that if I don't see anything [03:53] tgm4883_laptop: ok, thanks, just a sec... [03:58] tgm4883_laptop: that's me on the other computer. hmm... ps shows the backend running but the log is empty! [03:58] /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log is empty? [03:58] tgm4883_laptop: was the old bot slow when it got bugs, or was it snappy? [03:59] rhpot1991, depending on the load, it was relatively snappy [03:59] until the end, when it was hours later [03:59] but usually we got bug reports in < 10 minutes [03:59] LP is just slow in general with them [03:59] tgm4883_laptop: yes, completely empty (never saw that before). this is a secondary backend/frontend. [04:00] what backend is your 5500 on? [04:00] tgm4883_laptop: this one, not the master. [04:01] hmm [04:01] pastebin your master backend log [04:02] tgm4883_laptop: it takes back about as long as it does to look up a bug via http [04:03] rhpot1991, test? [04:03] tgm4883_laptop: don't have it on him yet, I'll move it over in a bit, gonna go watch some TV first [04:03] k [04:03] i'll probably be watching vantage point later [04:04] still waiting for netflix to get me that [04:04] just gonna watch some recordings [04:07] tgm4883_laptop: my first pastebin, did that work? [04:14] tgm4883_laptop: my master backend also has a tuner that isn't working, a hvr950 usb stick. [04:14] it was working fine for a few weeks but now it's the same as the 5500: just returns to the menu. [04:27] tgm4883_laptop: should i restart the master backend? [04:27] it seems like that log is mostly looping on a free space scan. [04:27] or should I dig around in the older logs and pastebin something from there? [04:38] harmony3264, what first pastebin? [04:38] you have to post the link for us ;) [04:40] tgm4883_laptop: as i said: my first pastebin. let me see if i can find its link... [04:41] tgm4883_laptop: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25329/ [04:41] is that it? [04:41] hmm [04:41] is that from the master backend? [04:42] i meant "first ever" [04:42] ah [04:42] ok, do this [04:42] restart the backend, then try watching something, then pastebin your backend log [04:42] hopefully we will get something important [04:43]  tgm4883_laptop: start watching on the remote frontend or on the backend, or do you care? [04:43] don't care [04:45]  tgm4883_laptop: nice! maybe we'll get them both fixed! [04:48] tgm4883_laptop: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25329/ [04:49] tgm4883_laptop: oops, here's the new one: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25347/ [04:50] tgm4883_laptop: how about this: [04:50] 2008-07-05 23:45:46.834 DVBChan(4:0) Error: Opening DVB frontend device failed. eno: No such file or directory (2) ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database. Perhaps you should read the installation instructions? [04:51] yea that looks bad [04:52] did you run through all the mythtv-setup steps? [04:53]  tgm4883_laptop: yes, and this tuner was working (as you can see in the log there's like 300 hours of recordings i got before it quit). [04:53] what changed? [04:53] and which tuner is this? [04:54] i'm not sure if it's related but it quit about the same time as i had another problem: [04:54] i ran out of hd space and due to a permissions problem, it was unable to delete old recordings to make room. [04:54]  tgm4883_laptop: this is the hvr950 usb stick. [04:55]  tgm4883_laptop: other than that, i don't know of anything that changed. [04:56] doesn't sound related, try deleting the tuner and readding it. I'm gotta go watch a movie but will be back later. Also, check your permissions on your recording dir and make sure it isn't in your home dir [04:56]  tgm4883_laptop: ok, thanks a lot! [05:03] cant watch live tv on fresh install of ubuntu 8.04 and mythbuntu. backend looks fine but when start mythfront end from cli i get the error live tv not started http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25352/ [05:17] backend log [05:22] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25356/ [05:29] SG(LiveTV) Error: FindNextDirMostFree: '/var/lib/mythtv/Livetv' does not exist! [05:32] woooo just got my fav movie on the mythbox now [05:32] Waterworld! [05:45] hello. When I log into my myth box via ssh i get the following error: Unable to access MythTV Perl API Try with --verbose to find out why. [05:45] what does verbose say [05:45] Probably mythtv-status [05:45] i dont know, whats the command? [06:22] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740473&page=6#post5221175 [06:23] disregard. [06:25] harmony3264, progress? [06:42] WattoDaToydarian /etc/fstab [07:41] tgm4883_laptop: [07:41] Ok, i deleted all capture cards on my master backend, [07:41] then tried to re-add but now the WIN_HVR_950 is not recognized: [07:41] Capture Card Setup [07:41] Card type: DVB DTV capture card (v3.x) [07:41] Frontend ID: [07:41] Could not get card info for card #0 Subtype: Unknown error [07:41] I originally followed the directions from post #53 here: [07:41] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740473&page=6#post5221175 [07:41] and as it said, I rebooted and it was recognized in mythtv-setup as [07:41] DVB DTV capture card (v3.x) [07:41] but he doesn't say what the module's name is [07:41] and I can't tell what it is from looking inside the make file. [07:41] I'm considering starting over with these directions: [07:41] http://u32.net/MythTV/WinTV-HVR-950/ [07:41] or would that mess something up, or just be repetitious? [07:41] btw, my recordings dir is under my home dir [07:41] because I've mounted a raid there (Data) for them [07:41] but i think it's ok because it was recording there fine [07:41] when the tuner's module would load. [07:41] ls -l Data/mythtv [07:41] drwxrwsr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 16384 2008-07-06 02:24 recordings [08:08]  tgm4883_laptop: I'm going to get something to eat but I will check back here. [08:08] Thanks again! [08:23]  tgm4883_laptop: actually i just had to restart x on that machine. [08:23] I'll still check back in a while... [08:28] harmony32641, IIRC you have to rebuild that every time there is a kernel upgrade [08:38]  tgm4883_laptop: yeah, a pain huh. [08:38] but I built it on 2.6.24-19 and I just checked that my kernel is still the same. [08:58] when I exit out of mythtv-setup, it says "Path live/ doesn't exist." ... where should I create the path? [12:09] i just installed mythbuntu, now i want it to have same desktop theme, menu/panel items etc as ubuntu, i have already installed ubuntu-desktop, can it be done? [12:34] XLV: log out, choose gnome as your session in gdm, log back in [12:39] laga, thanks, i am using vnc to control htpc, cause its on a crt tv atm with svideo tvout at 1024x768, and its annoying to try to do any maintenance on it using the crt tv as display, so i couldnt see that mythbuntu offered there the option for WM [13:16] If anyone would like to try out a new experimental myth frontend, gloss 0.1 has just been released, including packages for 8.04. Testing/feedback greatly appreciated. [13:17] noisymime: great stuff. can't try it right now, though, my backend is offline [13:54] Mornin' folks [14:06] mythbuntu comes with threaded fddshow included? [14:06] or i should try to install coreavc for linux? [14:07] ffdshow? isn't that windows stuff? ;) [14:07] mythtv in mythbuntu 8.04 can do multithreading for certain content [14:08] my bad, i meant ffmpeg or whatever its called ;-) [14:36] mythtv comes with ffmpeg but it doesn't come with the restricted. You have to enable the medibuntu repositories to get the restricted drivers. [14:38] the internal player in mythtv does not care about the ffmpeg packages [14:59] So I installed ubuntu hardy, then apt-get installed mythbuntu-desktop. [15:00] now i have a working system - but the mythconverg tables and mythtv user are not in the mysql [15:00] mythtv-setup doesn't want to do that stage - do i create by hand - or is there a reconfigure i should do? [15:15] probably because I set a root password for mysql? [15:16] gpd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [15:17] laga: fantastic - thank you! :) [15:18] gpd: kudos for not forgetting your root password for mysql. :) [18:32] Has anyone every attempted to get the MythBuntu diskless client to login via LDAP and share the home dir from the server ? [18:34] not me. [18:34] i'd be interested in that, tho [18:38] Frans-Willem: you don't even need ldap if you just want the home dir [18:50] Well, I've considered just mounting the entire homedir or even just /home/mainuser, but I feel LDAP would be nicer :p [18:52] i wasn't aware LDAP had special file sharing powers [18:53] Well, I'm not that sure about LDAP, but I'm afraid that things might get ugly if the credentials on the client and the server don't match [18:53] no, LDAP doesnt seem to be able to transfer real files. or at least let you mount directories [18:53] .. over the network [18:54] So how would you do it then? simply share /home read-write and mount it on the clients ? [18:54] laga, no but LDAP will allow you to create a home dir or at least universal creds to prevent issues when creating mount points [18:55] foxbuntu: what would be issues? different UID/GID on server and client? [18:56] Frans-Willem: yes, assuming the UIDs match. nfs-kernel-server doesn't really have any fancy UID mapping :( but that might have changed with nfs version 4 [18:56] yeah...for the most part it wouldnt matter, the permissions just have to be matched up, it only becomes an issue with a large environment [18:57] So would it be safe to just share /home ? [18:58] Or would it be better to mount /home to something like /var/cache/mythbuntu-diskless/clienthome ? [18:58] (Although that would make it complicated if your main box is supposed to be a frontend too [18:59] Frans-Willem, why are you trying to share /home? [18:59] foxbuntu: Because things like video covers are by default shared in the homedir [19:00] Frans-Willem, create a shared location and symlink to it from the default location? [19:00] that would be much safer [19:01] Hmmmz... [19:01] That *is* a nice solution indeed :) [19:01] Hadn't thought of that yet [19:03] so like creating /var/lib/mythtv/videocovers and "ln -s /var/lib/mythtv/videocovers /home/mainuser/.mythtv/MythVideo" on the server and "mainip:/var/lib/mythtv/videocovers /home/mainuser/.mythtv/MythVideo nfs ..." in the fstab of the clients ? [19:04] no [19:04] ? [19:04] not far off [19:05] you want the /home location to think its a folder when it really is a symlink to the nfs location [19:05] so the symlink is actually on the clients [19:06] the directory is on the server [19:06] and the clients nfs mount to the server's shared directory [19:06] so: [19:07] On Server1: /var/lib/mythtv/SharedFolder1 [19:07] On Client1: nfs mount /somedir/ [19:07] (which is the server location then) [19:08] Ok, so to recap, on the server: [19:08] then On Client1: ln -s /home/someuser/.mythtv/MythVideo /somedir/ [19:09] How is that different to simply mounting /home/someuser/.mythtv/MythVideo to a network share ? [19:09] because you dont want your server writing to the /home directory [19:09] permissions would get all screwed up to make it work [19:10] you want the server writing to a local spot that is shared to the clients and then if you want to use that default location symlink to it to maintain security [19:11] Hmmm, just to be sure we're both on the same page [19:11] what's the difference between (on the client) doing either: [19:11] mount -t nfs 192.168.1.1:/var/lib/mythtv/videocovers /home/mainuser/.mythtv/MythVideo [19:11] and [19:12] mount -t nfs 192.168.1.1:/var/lib/mythtv/videocovers /var/lib/mythtv/videocovers [19:12] ln -s /var/lib/mythtv/videocovers /home/mainuser/.mythtv/MythVideo [19:12] Isn't the second doing exactly the same as the former but with one extra redirection ? [19:14] Im sorry I was misunderstanding what you were trying to accomplish before [19:14] it sounded like you wanted to share /home and mount it on the server or other clients and write to the clients [19:14] !spork foxbuntu [19:14] Sorry I don't know about spork foxbuntu [19:14] !stab laga [19:14] * Zinn stabs laga with a rusty spork. [19:14] ah, thanks. [19:17] heh :p [19:18] foxbuntu: Yes, that was one of my possible solutions [19:18] I was thinking about: [19:19] - Either creating a shared dir (safest, but requires me to create a seperate dir for every shared thing) [19:19] - Sharing /home on the server and mounting that on the clients (credentials fuckup, probably) [19:20] - Sharing a random dir (like /var/lib/mythtv/clienthome) and mounting that to /home on the clients (clients have same credentials, so less of a fuckup, but doesn't allow the server to be a frontend too) [19:20] Frans-Willem, you have your ideas, my only advice is to stay away from sharing /home [19:21] But that third solution looks safe too ? [19:24] Frans-Willem, yeah...it wouldnt be an issue [19:25] K :) [19:30] So who else is actually using the diskless setup ? [19:30] Frans-Willem, you are the only one [19:30] ;) [19:31] Ok, so let's say that I write down everything I did to make my config useful (e.g. shared media, everything working correctly), who should I send it to for review and possible inclusion in MythBuntu ? [19:33] Frans-Willem, put it in a Wiki [19:34] i wish i used the diskless tuff [19:35] +s [19:35] laga, that funny considering its your baby [19:36] yeah [19:36] :) [19:36] i'm kinda glad it's so.. complete. all the functionality is there, and most stuff i'd consider adding is minor hacks to MCC [19:37] laga, its really grown pretty quickly [19:39] It's just great being able to put the main box outside of the living room, and simply have a completely passive box in the living room :) [19:41] It's quite good actually, but there are quite a bit of things that I feel should've been in there by default [19:41] e.g. the mounting of the videos, music, and pictures dir [19:42] yes [19:42] but you need lots of magic to do that. [19:42] maybe using bonjour.. [19:42] :/ [19:42] Hell no :/ [19:42] it's kinda there. you can tell mythbuntu to export your stuff in MCC [19:42] but i'm not sure if mounting is automagic [19:43] For mounting you need to add some lines to the fstab of the diskless one, and fix the lts.conf file to not rewrite it on each boot [19:43] such things - shares etc could probably be put into the mysql DB. but you probably dont want to depend on that. [19:43] for mythtv itself, there'll probably be support for just streaming media using the mythtv protocol [19:44] the recordings dir and stuff get shared automagically IIRC [19:44] via samba [19:44] rhpot1991_laptop: you need to enable it first [19:44] only works if you use the defualt as well [19:44] its really not that hard to do that yourself either :) [19:44] Hmm, I've got all dirs shared through samba and NFS, yet my diskless clients didn't mount it [19:45] Frans-Willem: You need to setup your client to mount them [19:45] rhpot1991_laptop: i meant to make it more dynamic by getting the location for the various directories from the DB, but i'm not sure if that happened. [19:46] rhpot1991_laptop: Are we talking about the Live CD or the Diskless setup? and if we're talking about the diskless setup, how did you set it up then ? [19:46] * rhpot1991_laptop searches for a good wiki entry to describe the process [19:46] I basically just adjusted fstab myself [19:47] rhpot1991_laptop: i think he already knows how to setup fstab [19:47] ah ok [19:47] :) [19:48] Oh btw, did you also have to adjust lts.conf and add that extra "[default]" line ? [19:48] mine isn't diskless, just another backend, all I did was added the shares to fstab myself [19:48] Ah ok [19:48] I don't use default shares either so I had to go and create them and all [19:48] s/shares/folders/ [19:49] Frans-Willem: the [default] thing is a known bug, i just never got around to fixing it.. [19:49] Yeah, that's basically what I did, but on top of that I also had to add a line to lts.conf as that was missing and causing LTSP to syntax error and ignore the directive not to overwrite fstab [19:49] which is a shame ;) [19:49] laga: I wonder if you could mysql all that and have clients/backends/etc read that upon install from the master backend [19:50] rhpot1991_laptop: yeah, and if the mysqld is down? ;) [19:50] epic failure [19:51] heh [19:51] indeed [19:51] If the mysqld is down the whole backend is prolly down in which case your diskless client shouldn't be booting anyway :p [19:51] Frans-Willem: wanna bet? [19:51] ;) [19:51] go to MCC, make a bootable thumb drive, check the "wake on lan" option, enter MAC address. done [19:52] although i have to admit i never really tested it ;) [19:53] heh :p [19:54] Btw, has anyone ever attempted making a mythbuntu backend without an actual videocard ? [19:54] Like have X run in VNC mode only ? [20:49] hi everyone [20:50] is there a way to display the mouse cursor? [20:58] think I got it :) [21:17] Frans-Willem: i'd probably use X tunneling in ssh [21:21] laga: I use a Windows machine as my main desktop ;) [21:21] Frans-Willem: you can still forward X to that, its a bit of a pain though [21:21] have to get cygwin running to forward apps to [21:22] Yeah, I've already looked at it before, and figured it'd be easier to just stick to VNC :p [21:22] agreed [21:40] Can anyone help me with mythtv setup? [21:41] I have a Hauppauge winTV card and I built the device driver, tried to set up in backend, but all I get is a green screen when I try to watch tv. Everything works fine in windows, so nothing wrong with cable source, etc. [21:50] you built the device driver? [21:52] yes [21:52] i think its configuration of backend [21:52] not sure [21:53] i did the aptitude install mercurial build-essential linux-source, then cd /usr/local/src and then hg clone http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb followed by make & make install [21:54] does it work in other applications? [21:55] i have only tried in windows [21:55] i haven't tried to get it to work in linux except in mythtv [21:55] i'm thinking it has something to do with backend setup [21:55] why did you build the v4l-dvb drivers from hg? [21:56] My Hauppauge WinTV 500MCE was pretty much plug and play, why would you want to build it from source :p? [21:56] anyways, i recommend trying it in another application first, like xawtv or mplayer [21:57] i was reading directions from linux magazine [21:58] installing xawtv now [21:59] i'm going to reboot and brb [22:02] i cant get xawtv to even start [22:10] no luck in motv either. [22:11] i'm in the USA using cable (no box), so i assume my settings are: NTSC-M, us-cable [22:11] is that right? [22:37] hello [22:38] does anyone have a good walkthrough of setting up the remote that comes with a hauppauge pvr-150? I cant seem to get it to work, even with the mcc.