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macooh00:00
Myrtti"yes I know I should be in bed but so should you jussi01"00:00
jussi01:P00:00
jussi01i am in bed...00:00
macowho doesn't use their laptop from bed?00:00
naliothjussi01: take out the trash before you go to sleep, eh?00:01
MyrttiI don't00:01
MyrttiI use my 770 in bed00:01
Myrtti:-D00:01
Myrttitis designed for that00:01
jussi01nalioth: sure.00:01
macohehe fine, who doesnt IRC from bed00:01
Myrttiand bathroom irc too00:01
Seeker`ikonia: how be? how are things in Bath?00:01
naliothi refuse to irc from bed or bath00:01
macoeh, thatd be a bit too unsanitary, IMO00:01
ikoniaSeeker`: things be fine00:01
ikoniaSeeker`: I assume your back in the nest00:02
Seeker`ikonia: yup, left Bath on the 30th00:02
Myrttimaco: but nothing beats irc when taking a bath!00:02
jussi01hehe, he shut up when  got opped... :D00:03
ikoniaSeeker`: all setup up at home00:03
naliothjussi01: so you make a good scarecrow, do you?  :D00:04
Seeker`ikonia: nope, not enough room for all my stuff really00:04
jussi01nalioth: obviously... :P00:05
jussi01ok, off to bed... nini00:08
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Fryguy--can I propose a new trigger for ubottu?01:57
Fryguy--!work - "Doesn't work" doesn't mean anything to us.  Please be descriptive when describing problems and provide error messages where available. See !pastebin01:58
ubottuFryguy--: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:58
ompaul!work is <alias> "Doesn't work"02:00
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, ompaul said: !work is <alias> "Doesn't work"02:00
ompaullovely02:00
ompaul@login02:00
ubottuompaul: The operation succeeded.02:00
ompaul!work is <alias> "Doesn't work"02:00
ubottuBut work already means something else!02:00
ompaul!work work02:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about work work02:00
ompaul!work02:00
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.02:00
ompaul!ubottu work > fryguy--02:01
ubottufryguy--, please see my private message02:01
* nalioth pets ubottu 02:05
ompaul!sfd02:06
ubottuSoftware Freedom Day, Saturday 20th September 2008 http://softwarefreedomday.org/ Get involved02:06
ompaulok I am off to the land of dreams have fun02:06
naliothnight02:06
ubottuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (earlmred)05:48
ubottuavis called the ops in #ubuntu (earlmred)07:44
bazhangchaotic_descent09:17
bazhangperhaps a factoid would be in order for the serial gripers (limcore et al)09:33
elkbuntueh?09:34
bazhangsomething like submit a bug report, etc etc09:34
elkbuntuthey're there to complain, they'll find reasons to continue no matter what you do09:36
bazhangcertainly the hardcore gripers will complain, but it may deter those less inclined from joining in to a gripefest10:12
bazhanglopa, how may we assist you?10:17
ikoniabazhang: limcore is actually becoming a problem, he's complaining about non-existant things, it's getting very disruptive to the channel, and presenting a lot of false negative impressions10:37
bazhangikonia, and he is using more and more &^%* language as well10:37
ikoniaagreed10:38
bazhangperhaps a redirect to #ubuntu-pl is in order10:38
ikoniafor who ?10:40
bazhanglimcore is -pl10:40
MyrttiI doubt it will do any good10:40
bazhanglikely banned there at any rate :)10:41
soundrayPlease kick Dragonfly in #u12:48
gnomefreaksoundray: lets see if he really stops12:50
gnomefreakill be back in a few minutes12:50
soundrayokay, thanks12:50
* Myrtti yawns15:12
* Nafallo joins Myrtti in the effort15:12
Tm_Thi kids15:14
MyrttiWTH15:15
Myrtti"Well, it would be nice if the default assumption among Planet Ubuntu writers was that free drivers would be used, instead of one of the most visible open source projects around essentially heavily promoting nvidia proprietary or fglrx …"15:15
* Myrtti headdesks15:15
Tm_Term15:16
Myrttihttp://koti.kapsi.fi/~myrtti/blog/2008/07/05/yay-for-teenage-hobbies/15:16
MyrttiI'm such a horrible person because I used the first working display driver15:27
Myrttishame on me15:27
* mneptok heavily promotes cannibalism and farting15:27
Nafallo!botsnack15:28
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!15:28
mneptokthat's why Canonical hired me. i *seem* nice, but i'm actually evil to the core.15:28
gnomefreakwhat were they thinking hiring you ;)15:30
Myrtti@login15:31
ubottuMyrtti: The operation succeeded.15:31
Myrtti!opsnack ~= /$/ And ICE CREAM!/15:32
ubottuI'll remember that Myrtti15:32
Myrtti!opsnack15:32
ubottuChocolate!  And Raisins! And ICE CREAM!15:32
Myrtti15:32
Nafallo:-P15:32
Myrttiomnomnom15:32
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti 15:38
mneptok!opsnack ~= /$/ ooo! and 60 minutes +m!15:39
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, mneptok said: !opsnack ~= /$/ ooo! and 60 minutes +m!15:39
mneptok@login15:40
ubottumneptok: The operation succeeded.15:40
mneptok!opsnack ~= /$/ ooo! and 60 minutes +m!15:40
ubottuMissing end delimiter15:40
mneptok!opsnack ~= /$/ ooo! and 60 minutes +m!/15:40
ubottuI'll remember that mneptok15:40
* Myrtti rolls her eyes15:40
Myrttireally, mneptok.15:40
mneptoksorry, been awake for ~20m15:40
MyrttiI'm disappointed.15:40
Myrtti:-P15:40
Tm_Thm15:40
Myrtti!opsnack ~= /  / /15:59
ubottuI'll remember that Myrtti15:59
Myrtti!opsnack15:59
ubottuChocolate! And Raisins! And ICE CREAM! ooo! and 60 minutes +m!15:59
* Myrtti purrs15:59
Myrtti mmm catnaps16:28
Tm_Thmmmm16:46
Myrttipur?16:49
jussi01chomp!17:02
Myrtti!prayer17:02
ubottuDear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so.17:02
MyrttiI hate when people assume that since I've once helped them in issue X, I can be treated as their beck and call helpdesk anytime17:03
Myrttion ANY issue17:03
jussi01hmmm, !no, opsnack is <reply>you naughty ops don't deserve a snack17:03
jussi01Myrtti: me also17:03
Myrttioh dear lord give me resilience17:08
ubottugenii called the ops in #ubuntu (spambot HaterAngel)17:54
* Myrtti sighs18:01
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti 18:30
gnomefreakkeep eye out for crackwhorebob18:30
gnomefreakthere are caps in that somewhere18:30
* gnomefreak leaves before people in #ubuntu get yelled at :(19:05
popey!virtualbox19:40
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox19:40
popeyit should say "gutsy and above" or "releases starting with gutsy"19:40
jussi01popey: you have rights, change it :D19:41
jussi01popey: do @login19:42
popeyi can never remember how19:42
popey@login19:43
ubottupopey: The operation succeeded.19:43
* Myrtti steals the Hardy Heron t-shirt19:43
jussi01popey: !factoid ~= /old bit to bechanged /new bit/19:44
jussi01Tm_T: ding dong19:51
popeyMyrtti: i have 3:)19:51
Myrttioh shush19:51
popey:)19:51
Myrttibe quiet and order me one of those and one http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/724f/19:52
* Myrtti harumphs19:52
popey!virtualbox ~= /available in/available from/19:53
ubottuI'll remember that popey19:53
popey!virtualbox19:53
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox19:53
popeyMyrtti: well, remember to listen to the podcast and enter the competitio to get discount19:53
popeyin fact the discount covers the entire cost of the t-shirt!19:53
Myrttieven to Finland?19:54
popeyyes19:54
popeyany country can use the coupons19:54
* Myrtti adds yet another podcast to download and forget to listen to her podracer list19:54
popeyhmm, i wonder if i should make that more clear19:54
Myrttithere. Now it's in my crontab.19:56
Myrttialong with all the other podcasts I forget to listen19:56
Myrtti:-D19:56
popey:)19:56
popeyMyrtti: just listen to ep8 which has the latest competition in, and closes on the 12th19:57
popeyHTH :)19:57
Myrtti... I just wonder do any of these have even one host with as captivating voice as Jono's :-P19:57
MyrttiI've got like 15 podcasts that I never listen to19:57
Myrttiexcept magnatune classical19:57
Myrttithe difficulty with the podcasts is that I'd really have to concentrate on  listening to them to get anything out of them19:58
popeymeh, ell the others are rubbish - they wont get you a cheap/free t-shirt19:59
Myrtti:-D19:59
Myrttijust for personal intrest I'll have to listen to http://tllts.org/ atleast the last episode20:00
popeywhys that?20:01
popeyi find tllts too long to listen too, too much dead air20:01
Myrttiwell, not only for personal but also for professional intrest20:03
MyrttiQuim Gil of Nokia20:03
MyrttiQuim is fun20:03
popeyah, like his blog posts20:04
Myrttihe was in the judge board of Summercode Finland this year20:05
ubottusorena called the ops in #ubuntu-ir ()20:09
Tm_TMyrtti: ah, him20:10
Myrtti:-/20:11
Myrttitoo bad you weren't chosen - I tried to stomp my feet down20:12
Myrttihmmmm20:22
MyrttiSpecies8472: hello20:25
Tm_TMyrtti: I think its better this way20:26
MyrttiTm_T: doesn't stop me from feeling bad20:26
Tm_TMyrtti: but he seemed to think that "ol granny user" isnt our target20:27
* Myrtti shrugs20:28
Myrttiwas the board that made that call, not a single member of it20:28
Myrttihas anyone seen Species8472 say anything?20:28
Myrttimy backlog contains nothing of him20:29
naliothSpecies8472: please see the /topic here20:29
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Species8472hi20:45
Species8472whatsup?20:46
Tm_Tsee topic20:46
Species8472Yeah I talked a lot just a few days ago20:46
Species8472if you want me to leave I'm find with that20:46
MyrttiSpecies8472: remind us again?20:46
Species8472maybe you were not here, it's not a lie20:46
Myrttieh?20:47
MyrttiSpecies8472: what was your issue again?20:47
naliothSpecies8472: we wish you a nice night  :)20:47
Species8472I joined because someone couldn't enter the channel20:47
Species8472he asked at #freenode20:48
Myrttiand have they since been able?20:48
Species8472oh actually it was the normal #ubuntu channel20:48
Species8472but yes good day to you :)20:48
Species8472cya20:48
Myrttimkay20:48
Tm_Thmh20:48
Tm_Tdidn't see him talking in lastlog20:48
Myrttineither did I20:49
Myrttithat's why I asked20:49
MyrttiCarole King - You've got a friend20:50
Tm_Tmmmm20:51
* Myrtti hugs everyone in turn20:52
Tm_Ti need new monitor, i afraid20:53
Tm_Tsponsor me?20:53
MyrttiI need a Roomba20:54
Myrttisrsly20:54
Myrtti:-D20:54
Tm_Tmmmgh, I'm soon financially screwed20:56
MyrttiTm_T: ooooh, just think about me and my credit card20:56
Tm_T...and?20:57
Myrttiand flights to Lugradio Live, three nights in a hotel... now I'm dreaming about 24" screen and dvd-player and Roomba and a bike...20:57
Myrttiand a new bed and mattresses and and and20:58
Myrtti:-D20:58
Tm_Tmeh20:58
Myrttiexactly20:58
MyrttiI'm slapping myself on fingers on daily basis20:58
Tm_TI hope I don't loose my rights again20:58
Myrttiyou want me to slap your fingers too?20:58
* Myrtti gets her ruler20:59
Tm_TMyrtti: btw I lost mine for 7 € ...20:59
Myrttigood for you20:59
nickruddon't know if anyone else is interested, but its truly terrific tennis today20:59
Tm_Tnickrud: finnish boy lost final20:59
Myrttiwoo for _NOT_ having a telly!21:00
Tm_TMyrtti: ...for tv payment I wasn't needing in first place21:00
nickrudtv tax. bleh21:01
MyrttiTV payment inspectors WELCOME!21:01
MyrttiMy home front door is always open to you!21:02
MyrttiCOFFEE AND COOKIES!21:02
Tm_Theh21:02
nickrudlet them in, set the roomba on them21:02
Myrttino, the ferocious guinea pigs21:02
MyrttiAleksi, ATTACK!21:02
Tm_T:p21:02
* nickrud raises his feet in sympathy21:03
Myrttihello Thirsteh21:43
ThirstehHeya. I got thrown into #ubuntu-read-topic while at a friend's house21:43
ThirstehI'm at home now and I've never gotten a notice before so I suppose I'm no longer vulnerable21:43
Myrttidid you read the topic of #ubuntu-read-topic?21:44
Thirstehyes. I'm supposed to ask you to scan me21:45
Myrttididn't you try to get the bots scan you first?21:45
Thirstehmmh, pardon, I'd only caught the "join #ubuntu-ops and ask to be tested" in the channel topic, not the further note on the site21:46
ThirstehI'm back in #ubuntu, cheers21:47
Myrttithere you go then21:47
MyrttiARGH.22:16
* Dave2 hands Myrtti a kitten.22:16
Seeker`kitteh!22:16
Myrttiwhy hasn't teleporting been developed to apply to more than mere fotons?22:17
Dave2That would be useful.22:17
* Dave2 doesn't look forward to lugging baggage to LRL on trains. Assuming he gets round to booking his room.22:17
MyrttiOH SHUDDUP22:18
* Dave2 does so22:18
* Myrtti slaps Dave2 with 550€ credit card bill, four flights and four train tickets22:18
Dave2nice.22:18
MyrttiI'll raise with my phone bill.22:19
Myrttiand the food22:19
Myrttioh right - I can't buy roomba this month, not atleast with my Visa.22:20
MyrttiI was smart enough to put the credit limit to 80022:20
Myrttihow cool of me.22:20
Myrtti\o/22:20
* Dave2 's accounts are currently hurting somewhat with having to pay advance rent, deposit, TV licence, and NHS prescription prepayment card in quick succession.22:21
Myrttiwhich reminds me I've not gotten electricity bill since February.22:22
nickrudbleh. TV tax22:23
nickruddeja vu , drop in on same stuff22:23
Myrttiwoo \o/22:25
Seeker`tis a LjL!!22:26
Myrttitis a sign that the floodbots are in sync again22:26
naliothand an unidentified Seeker`22:26
Seeker`I'm me, honest22:27
Nafallohehe22:28
jpdsEvening.22:28
jpdsMyrtti: I'm getting a irssi-plugin-otr package into intrepid. Thought you might like to know.22:28
MyrttiI know I'm a horrible, horrible person, but I find some sort of odd ironic sense from Seveas's three latest blog entrys22:28
Seeker`whats his blog?22:29
Myrttijpds: cool, I've already got it compiled on my Hardy and there's some oddishnesses in it22:29
Myrttijpds: it keeps dropping the OTR connection, or so I'm told by the other party22:29
MyrttiSeeker`: http://blogs.ubuntu-nl.org/dennis22:29
jpdsMyrtti: Yes, I've experienced some problems with it, once it cause irssi to completely crash.22:30
Myrttiand I've also hit a bug in bitlbee - again reported by the other party22:31
Myrttibitlbee cares not about the user preferences of where to get the messages22:31
Myrttiatleast in my case (latest bzr) the damned thing sends messages straight to gmail gtalk thingie if the other person has been unfortunate enough to login gmail22:32
jpdsHmm22:33
Myrttijpds: are you perchance packaging the otr thingie in a way it can be loaded with /load otr?22:36
MyrttiI could get it to load only with the full path22:36
jpdsI load it with /load otr here.22:36
Myrttijolly good22:37
jpdshey Pici22:38
Picijpds: howdy22:39
Myrtti... woo. Time for my identity crisis again. WTH am I doing online on a Sunday night past midnight using git, bzr and svn an compiling software that does not help fighting global warming or worldwide famine?22:39
* Myrtti goes to shut down all the extra lights22:39
Myrttiatleast I'm using my laptop which uses less electricity than desktop would22:44
PiciI think I left the AC on in my apartment22:55
Dave2We replaced all our bulbs with CFLs today. And now I'm using my laptop in the front room with the TV on.23:01
Dave2I'm not quite sure if it's a good enough tradeoff...23:02
PiciProbably it is, CFLs generate far less heat than incandescents23:02
MyrttiI've changed mine to CFL and halogens long time ago23:02
Myrttithe last straw was when I changed the light bulbs in the bathroom for the fifth time in two weeks23:03
Myrtti-- and you need a screwdriver and a flashlight to do that23:03
Dave2The final housemate only moved in yesterday, the 2nd moved in the day before, and I moved in last Sunday.23:03
Dave2nice23:03
Seeker`Dave2: new house good?23:10
Seeker`grr, decent TV program just started, now i'll have to wait 15 mins to get a drink23:10
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* nalioth kicks his new RAZR phone23:29
Piciyour have ubot3 running on your RAZR?23:29
naliothgoldarned thing has me making custom ringtones for each of the folks in my address book23:29
naliothno, Pici, ubot3 can't stay connected thanks to AT&T suckdom23:29
* Myrtti huggles her N9523:31
Dave2Seeker`, it's far better than the old house. Apart from having an oven that tried to kill us by having some sort of cleaner or something left in it which we didn't notice. It stank.23:31
Dave2oh, he went.23:31
Dave2Seeker`, it's far better than the old house. Apart from having an oven that tried to kill us by having some sort of cleaner or something left in it which we didn't notice. It stank.23:32
Dave2Not that it's hard to be far better than the old house. The old house had slugs in the bathroom, and a giant crack around some of the windows. Which you could push.23:33
Seeker`Dave2: ah, fun23:34
* Dave2 moves upstairs, work tomorrow etc.23:34
Seeker`boo hiss work23:36
* Myrtti hugs ompaul23:40
ompaulhiya23:40
naliothSeeker`: does nickserv just not like you today?23:42
Seeker`nalioth: my shell host has gone bye bye, and therefore I am relying on my home conneciton23:42
Seeker`the problem with my home connection is that my brother is able to use / fiddle with it23:43

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