[00:00] <maco> oh
[00:00] <Myrtti> "yes I know I should be in bed but so should you jussi01"
[00:00] <jussi01> :P
[00:00] <jussi01> i am in bed...
[00:00] <maco> who doesn't use their laptop from bed?
[00:01] <nalioth> jussi01: take out the trash before you go to sleep, eh?
[00:01] <Myrtti> I don't
[00:01] <Myrtti> I use my 770 in bed
[00:01] <Myrtti> :-D
[00:01] <Myrtti> tis designed for that
[00:01] <jussi01> nalioth: sure.
[00:01] <maco> hehe fine, who doesnt IRC from bed
[00:01] <Myrtti> and bathroom irc too
[00:01] <Seeker`> ikonia: how be? how are things in Bath?
[00:01] <nalioth> i refuse to irc from bed or bath
[00:01] <maco> eh, thatd be a bit too unsanitary, IMO
[00:01] <ikonia> Seeker`: things be fine
[00:02] <ikonia> Seeker`: I assume your back in the nest
[00:02] <Seeker`> ikonia: yup, left Bath on the 30th
[00:02] <Myrtti> maco: but nothing beats irc when taking a bath!
[00:03] <jussi01> hehe, he shut up when  got opped... :D
[00:03] <ikonia> Seeker`: all setup up at home
[00:04] <nalioth> jussi01: so you make a good scarecrow, do you?  :D
[00:04] <Seeker`> ikonia: nope, not enough room for all my stuff really
[00:05] <jussi01> nalioth: obviously... :P
[00:08] <jussi01> ok, off to bed... nini
[01:57] <Fryguy--> can I propose a new trigger for ubottu?
[01:58] <Fryguy--> !work - "Doesn't work" doesn't mean anything to us.  Please be descriptive when describing problems and provide error messages where available. See !pastebin
[02:00] <ompaul> !work is <alias> "Doesn't work"
[02:00] <ompaul> lovely
[02:00] <ompaul> @login
[02:00] <ompaul> !work is <alias> "Doesn't work"
[02:00] <ompaul> !work work
[02:00] <ompaul> !work
[02:01] <ompaul> !ubottu work > fryguy--
[02:05]  * nalioth pets ubottu 
[02:06] <ompaul> !sfd
[02:06] <ompaul> ok I am off to the land of dreams have fun
[02:06] <nalioth> night
[09:17] <bazhang> chaotic_descent
[09:33] <bazhang> perhaps a factoid would be in order for the serial gripers (limcore et al)
[09:34] <elkbuntu> eh?
[09:34] <bazhang> something like submit a bug report, etc etc
[09:36] <elkbuntu> they're there to complain, they'll find reasons to continue no matter what you do
[10:12] <bazhang> certainly the hardcore gripers will complain, but it may deter those less inclined from joining in to a gripefest
[10:17] <bazhang> lopa, how may we assist you?
[10:37] <ikonia> bazhang: limcore is actually becoming a problem, he's complaining about non-existant things, it's getting very disruptive to the channel, and presenting a lot of false negative impressions
[10:37] <bazhang> ikonia, and he is using more and more &^%* language as well
[10:38] <ikonia> agreed
[10:38] <bazhang> perhaps a redirect to #ubuntu-pl is in order
[10:40] <ikonia> for who ?
[10:40] <bazhang> limcore is -pl
[10:40] <Myrtti> I doubt it will do any good
[10:41] <bazhang> likely banned there at any rate :)
[12:48] <soundray> Please kick Dragonfly in #u
[12:50] <gnomefreak> soundray: lets see if he really stops
[12:50] <gnomefreak> ill be back in a few minutes
[12:50] <soundray> okay, thanks
[15:12]  * Myrtti yawns
[15:12]  * Nafallo joins Myrtti in the effort
[15:14] <Tm_T> hi kids
[15:15] <Myrtti> WTH
[15:15] <Myrtti> "Well, it would be nice if the default assumption among Planet Ubuntu writers was that free drivers would be used, instead of one of the most visible open source projects around essentially heavily promoting nvidia proprietary or fglrx …"
[15:15]  * Myrtti headdesks
[15:16] <Tm_T> erm
[15:16] <Myrtti> http://koti.kapsi.fi/~myrtti/blog/2008/07/05/yay-for-teenage-hobbies/
[15:27] <Myrtti> I'm such a horrible person because I used the first working display driver
[15:27] <Myrtti> shame on me
[15:27]  * mneptok heavily promotes cannibalism and farting
[15:28] <Nafallo> !botsnack
[15:28] <mneptok> that's why Canonical hired me. i *seem* nice, but i'm actually evil to the core.
[15:30] <gnomefreak> what were they thinking hiring you ;)
[15:31] <Myrtti> @login
[15:32] <Myrtti> !opsnack ~= /$/ And ICE CREAM!/
[15:32] <Myrtti> !opsnack
[15:32] <Myrtti> ♥
[15:32] <Nafallo> :-P
[15:32] <Myrtti> omnomnom
[15:38]  * Tm_T hugs Myrtti 
[15:39] <mneptok> !opsnack ~= /$/ ooo! and 60 minutes +m!
[15:40] <mneptok> @login
[15:40] <mneptok> !opsnack ~= /$/ ooo! and 60 minutes +m!
[15:40] <mneptok> !opsnack ~= /$/ ooo! and 60 minutes +m!/
[15:40]  * Myrtti rolls her eyes
[15:40] <Myrtti> really, mneptok.
[15:40] <mneptok> sorry, been awake for ~20m
[15:40] <Myrtti> I'm disappointed.
[15:40] <Myrtti> :-P
[15:40] <Tm_T> hm
[15:59] <Myrtti> !opsnack ~= /  / /
[15:59] <Myrtti> !opsnack
[15:59]  * Myrtti purrs
[16:28] <Myrtti>  mmm catnaps
[16:46] <Tm_T> hmmmm
[16:49] <Myrtti> pur?
[17:02] <jussi01> chomp!
[17:02] <Myrtti> !prayer
[17:03] <Myrtti> I hate when people assume that since I've once helped them in issue X, I can be treated as their beck and call helpdesk anytime
[17:03] <Myrtti> on ANY issue
[17:03] <jussi01> hmmm, !no, opsnack is <reply>you naughty ops don't deserve a snack
[17:03] <jussi01> Myrtti: me also
[17:08] <Myrtti> oh dear lord give me resilience
[18:01]  * Myrtti sighs
[18:30]  * Tm_T hugs Myrtti 
[18:30] <gnomefreak> keep eye out for crackwhorebob
[18:30] <gnomefreak> there are caps in that somewhere
[19:05]  * gnomefreak leaves before people in #ubuntu get yelled at :(
[19:40] <popey> !virtualbox
[19:40] <popey> it should say "gutsy and above" or "releases starting with gutsy"
[19:41] <jussi01> popey: you have rights, change it :D
[19:42] <jussi01> popey: do @login
[19:42] <popey> i can never remember how
[19:43] <popey> @login
[19:43]  * Myrtti steals the Hardy Heron t-shirt
[19:44] <jussi01> popey: !factoid ~= /old bit to bechanged /new bit/
[19:51] <jussi01> Tm_T: ding dong
[19:51] <popey> Myrtti: i have 3：）
[19:51] <Myrtti> oh shush
[19:51] <popey> ：）
[19:52] <Myrtti> be quiet and order me one of those and one http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/724f/
[19:52]  * Myrtti harumphs
[19:53] <popey> !virtualbox ~= /available in/available from/
[19:53] <popey> !virtualbox
[19:53] <popey> Myrtti: well, remember to listen to the podcast and enter the competitio to get discount
[19:53] <popey> in fact the discount covers the entire cost of the t-shirt!
[19:54] <Myrtti> even to Finland?
[19:54] <popey> yes
[19:54] <popey> any country can use the coupons
[19:54]  * Myrtti adds yet another podcast to download and forget to listen to her podracer list
[19:54] <popey> hmm, i wonder if i should make that more clear
[19:56] <Myrtti> there. Now it's in my crontab.
[19:56] <Myrtti> along with all the other podcasts I forget to listen
[19:56] <Myrtti> :-D
[19:56] <popey> :)
[19:57] <popey> Myrtti: just listen to ep8 which has the latest competition in, and closes on the 12th
[19:57] <popey> HTH :)
[19:57] <Myrtti> ... I just wonder do any of these have even one host with as captivating voice as Jono's :-P
[19:57] <Myrtti> I've got like 15 podcasts that I never listen to
[19:57] <Myrtti> except magnatune classical
[19:58] <Myrtti> the difficulty with the podcasts is that I'd really have to concentrate on  listening to them to get anything out of them
[19:59] <popey> meh, ell the others are rubbish - they wont get you a cheap/free t-shirt
[19:59] <Myrtti> :-D
[20:00] <Myrtti> just for personal intrest I'll have to listen to http://tllts.org/ atleast the last episode
[20:01] <popey> whys that?
[20:01] <popey> i find tllts too long to listen too, too much dead air
[20:03] <Myrtti> well, not only for personal but also for professional intrest
[20:03] <Myrtti> Quim Gil of Nokia
[20:03] <Myrtti> Quim is fun
[20:04] <popey> ah, like his blog posts
[20:05] <Myrtti> he was in the judge board of Summercode Finland this year
[20:10] <Tm_T> Myrtti: ah, him
[20:11] <Myrtti> :-/
[20:12] <Myrtti> too bad you weren't chosen - I tried to stomp my feet down
[20:22] <Myrtti> hmmmm
[20:25] <Myrtti> Species8472: hello
[20:26] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I think its better this way
[20:26] <Myrtti> Tm_T: doesn't stop me from feeling bad
[20:27] <Tm_T> Myrtti: but he seemed to think that "ol granny user" isnt our target
[20:28]  * Myrtti shrugs
[20:28] <Myrtti> was the board that made that call, not a single member of it
[20:28] <Myrtti> has anyone seen Species8472 say anything?
[20:29] <Myrtti> my backlog contains nothing of him
[20:29] <nalioth> Species8472: please see the /topic here
[20:45] <Species8472> hi
[20:46] <Species8472> whatsup?
[20:46] <Tm_T> see topic
[20:46] <Species8472> Yeah I talked a lot just a few days ago
[20:46] <Species8472> if you want me to leave I'm find with that
[20:46] <Myrtti> Species8472: remind us again?
[20:46] <Species8472> maybe you were not here, it's not a lie
[20:47] <Myrtti> eh?
[20:47] <Myrtti> Species8472: what was your issue again?
[20:47] <nalioth> Species8472: we wish you a nice night  :)
[20:47] <Species8472> I joined because someone couldn't enter the channel
[20:48] <Species8472> he asked at #freenode
[20:48] <Myrtti> and have they since been able?
[20:48] <Species8472> oh actually it was the normal #ubuntu channel
[20:48] <Species8472> but yes good day to you :)
[20:48] <Species8472> cya
[20:48] <Myrtti> mkay
[20:48] <Tm_T> hmh
[20:48] <Tm_T> didn't see him talking in lastlog
[20:49] <Myrtti> neither did I
[20:49] <Myrtti> that's why I asked
[20:50] <Myrtti> Carole King - You've got a friend
[20:51] <Tm_T> mmmm
[20:52]  * Myrtti hugs everyone in turn
[20:53] <Tm_T> i need new monitor, i afraid
[20:53] <Tm_T> sponsor me?
[20:54] <Myrtti> I need a Roomba
[20:54] <Myrtti> srsly
[20:54] <Myrtti> :-D
[20:56] <Tm_T> mmmgh, I'm soon financially screwed
[20:56] <Myrtti> Tm_T: ooooh, just think about me and my credit card
[20:57] <Tm_T> ...and?
[20:57] <Myrtti> and flights to Lugradio Live, three nights in a hotel... now I'm dreaming about 24" screen and dvd-player and Roomba and a bike...
[20:58] <Myrtti> and a new bed and mattresses and and and
[20:58] <Myrtti> :-D
[20:58] <Tm_T> meh
[20:58] <Myrtti> exactly
[20:58] <Myrtti> I'm slapping myself on fingers on daily basis
[20:58] <Tm_T> I hope I don't loose my rights again
[20:58] <Myrtti> you want me to slap your fingers too?
[20:59]  * Myrtti gets her ruler
[20:59] <Tm_T> Myrtti: btw I lost mine for 7 € ...
[20:59] <Myrtti> good for you
[20:59] <nickrud> don't know if anyone else is interested, but its truly terrific tennis today
[20:59] <Tm_T> nickrud: finnish boy lost final
[21:00] <Myrtti> woo for _NOT_ having a telly!
[21:00] <Tm_T> Myrtti: ...for tv payment I wasn't needing in first place
[21:01] <nickrud> tv tax. bleh
[21:01] <Myrtti> TV payment inspectors WELCOME!
[21:02] <Myrtti> My home front door is always open to you!
[21:02] <Myrtti> COFFEE AND COOKIES!
[21:02] <Tm_T> heh
[21:02] <nickrud> let them in, set the roomba on them
[21:02] <Myrtti> no, the ferocious guinea pigs
[21:02] <Myrtti> Aleksi, ATTACK!
[21:02] <Tm_T> :p
[21:03]  * nickrud raises his feet in sympathy
[21:43] <Myrtti> hello Thirsteh
[21:43] <Thirsteh> Heya. I got thrown into #ubuntu-read-topic while at a friend's house
[21:43] <Thirsteh> I'm at home now and I've never gotten a notice before so I suppose I'm no longer vulnerable
[21:44] <Myrtti> did you read the topic of #ubuntu-read-topic?
[21:45] <Thirsteh> yes. I'm supposed to ask you to scan me
[21:45] <Myrtti> didn't you try to get the bots scan you first?
[21:46] <Thirsteh> mmh, pardon, I'd only caught the "join #ubuntu-ops and ask to be tested" in the channel topic, not the further note on the site
[21:47] <Thirsteh> I'm back in #ubuntu, cheers
[21:47] <Myrtti> there you go then
[22:16] <Myrtti> ARGH.
[22:16]  * Dave2 hands Myrtti a kitten.
[22:16] <Seeker`> kitteh!
[22:17] <Myrtti> why hasn't teleporting been developed to apply to more than mere fotons?
[22:17] <Dave2> That would be useful.
[22:17]  * Dave2 doesn't look forward to lugging baggage to LRL on trains. Assuming he gets round to booking his room.
[22:18] <Myrtti> OH SHUDDUP
[22:18]  * Dave2 does so
[22:18]  * Myrtti slaps Dave2 with 550€ credit card bill, four flights and four train tickets
[22:18] <Dave2> nice.
[22:19] <Myrtti> I'll raise with my phone bill.
[22:19] <Myrtti> and the food
[22:20] <Myrtti> oh right - I can't buy roomba this month, not atleast with my Visa.
[22:20] <Myrtti> I was smart enough to put the credit limit to 800
[22:20] <Myrtti> how cool of me.
[22:20] <Myrtti> \o/
[22:21]  * Dave2 's accounts are currently hurting somewhat with having to pay advance rent, deposit, TV licence, and NHS prescription prepayment card in quick succession.
[22:22] <Myrtti> which reminds me I've not gotten electricity bill since February.
[22:23] <nickrud> bleh. TV tax
[22:23] <nickrud> deja vu , drop in on same stuff
[22:25] <Myrtti> woo \o/
[22:26] <Seeker`> tis a LjL!!
[22:26] <Myrtti> tis a sign that the floodbots are in sync again
[22:26] <nalioth> and an unidentified Seeker`
[22:27] <Seeker`> I'm me, honest
[22:28] <Nafallo> hehe
[22:28] <jpds> Evening.
[22:28] <jpds> Myrtti: I'm getting a irssi-plugin-otr package into intrepid. Thought you might like to know.
[22:28] <Myrtti> I know I'm a horrible, horrible person, but I find some sort of odd ironic sense from Seveas's three latest blog entrys
[22:29] <Seeker`> whats his blog?
[22:29] <Myrtti> jpds: cool, I've already got it compiled on my Hardy and there's some oddishnesses in it
[22:29] <Myrtti> jpds: it keeps dropping the OTR connection, or so I'm told by the other party
[22:29] <Myrtti> Seeker`: http://blogs.ubuntu-nl.org/dennis
[22:30] <jpds> Myrtti: Yes, I've experienced some problems with it, once it cause irssi to completely crash.
[22:31] <Myrtti> and I've also hit a bug in bitlbee - again reported by the other party
[22:31] <Myrtti> bitlbee cares not about the user preferences of where to get the messages
[22:32] <Myrtti> atleast in my case (latest bzr) the damned thing sends messages straight to gmail gtalk thingie if the other person has been unfortunate enough to login gmail
[22:33] <jpds> Hmm
[22:36] <Myrtti> jpds: are you perchance packaging the otr thingie in a way it can be loaded with /load otr?
[22:36] <Myrtti> I could get it to load only with the full path
[22:36] <jpds> I load it with /load otr here.
[22:37] <Myrtti> jolly good
[22:38] <jpds> hey Pici
[22:39] <Pici> jpds: howdy
[22:39] <Myrtti> ... woo. Time for my identity crisis again. WTH am I doing online on a Sunday night past midnight using git, bzr and svn an compiling software that does not help fighting global warming or worldwide famine?
[22:39]  * Myrtti goes to shut down all the extra lights
[22:44] <Myrtti> atleast I'm using my laptop which uses less electricity than desktop would
[22:55] <Pici> I think I left the AC on in my apartment
[23:01] <Dave2> We replaced all our bulbs with CFLs today. And now I'm using my laptop in the front room with the TV on.
[23:02] <Dave2> I'm not quite sure if it's a good enough tradeoff...
[23:02] <Pici> Probably it is, CFLs generate far less heat than incandescents
[23:02] <Myrtti> I've changed mine to CFL and halogens long time ago
[23:03] <Myrtti> the last straw was when I changed the light bulbs in the bathroom for the fifth time in two weeks
[23:03] <Myrtti> -- and you need a screwdriver and a flashlight to do that
[23:03] <Dave2> The final housemate only moved in yesterday, the 2nd moved in the day before, and I moved in last Sunday.
[23:03] <Dave2> nice
[23:10] <Seeker`> Dave2: new house good?
[23:10] <Seeker`> grr, decent TV program just started, now i'll have to wait 15 mins to get a drink
[23:29]  * nalioth kicks his new RAZR phone
[23:29] <Pici> your have ubot3 running on your RAZR?
[23:29] <nalioth> goldarned thing has me making custom ringtones for each of the folks in my address book
[23:29] <nalioth> no, Pici, ubot3 can't stay connected thanks to AT&T suckdom
[23:31]  * Myrtti huggles her N95
[23:31] <Dave2> Seeker`, it's far better than the old house. Apart from having an oven that tried to kill us by having some sort of cleaner or something left in it which we didn't notice. It stank.
[23:31] <Dave2> oh, he went.
[23:32] <Dave2> Seeker`, it's far better than the old house. Apart from having an oven that tried to kill us by having some sort of cleaner or something left in it which we didn't notice. It stank.
[23:33] <Dave2> Not that it's hard to be far better than the old house. The old house had slugs in the bathroom, and a giant crack around some of the windows. Which you could push.
[23:34] <Seeker`> Dave2: ah, fun
[23:34]  * Dave2 moves upstairs, work tomorrow etc.
[23:36] <Seeker`> boo hiss work
[23:40]  * Myrtti hugs ompaul
[23:40] <ompaul> hiya
[23:42] <nalioth> Seeker`: does nickserv just not like you today?
[23:42] <Seeker`> nalioth: my shell host has gone bye bye, and therefore I am relying on my home conneciton
[23:43] <Seeker`> the problem with my home connection is that my brother is able to use / fiddle with it