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ffmHey, I tried bzr push to a lp: and got:01:55
ffmbzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() 01:55
Hobbsee[10:44] <andrea-bs> 00:38:17> ScottWegner: you have to run bzr launchpad-login01:56
Hobbseeffm: ^01:56
Hobbsee[10:44] <ScottWegner> 00:41:29> hmmm, it looks like I don't even have launchpad-login command on this laptop-- does anybody know what packages it's in, offhand?01:56
Hobbsee[10:44] <andrea-bs> 00:41:56> ScottWegner: which version of bzr do you have?01:56
Hobbsee[10:44] <ScottWegner> 00:42:22> 1.3.1-1ubuntu0.1, from the repos01:56
Hobbsee[10:44] <andrea-bs> 00:42:46> oh, it's quite old; you have to use bzr+ssh01:57
ffmHobbsee: No, I have it.01:57
Hobbsee[10:44] <andrea-bs> 00:43:38> ScottWegner: bzr push bzr+ssh://username@bazaar.launchpad.net/~team/project/branch01:57
ffmHobbsee: howevre, I get bzr: ERROR: Target directory lp:~ffm/pyroom/proper-theme-paths already exists, but does not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply --use-existing-dir to push there anyway.01:57
Hobbsee(was asked ~10 hours ago)01:57
Hobbseestrange.  i presume you want to redo the bzr directory there, or something.  i don't know.01:58
ffmHobbsee: this is an init push;.01:58
Hobbseepoolie: can you help?01:58
mwhudsonffm: that's pretty odd01:59
poolieHobbsee: hi02:01
mwhudsonffm: did you manage to push your branch ?02:02
poolieffm, if you don't have launchpad-login using ssh is a direct substitute02:02
ffmmwhudson: I _think_ so.02:02
mwhudsonit looks ok to me02:02
pooliedoes it work if you do use --use-existing-dir?02:02
ffmpoolie: yeah02:02
pooliethat's kind of odd02:03
pooliethis can occur if you interrupt bzr in the middle of an initial push02:03
poolieso it's made the directory but can't really see it's a bzr directory02:03
mibhi.03:08
mibcan someone update the repository for R package to 2.7.1 which is the latest one?03:09
mibthanks03:09
Hobbsee?03:11
mibyea03:12
mibhobbsee03:12
* Hobbsee suggests fail on multiple levele.s03:12
Hobbseeer, levels03:12
* Hobbsee advocates reading the topic?03:12
mib??03:12
Hobbseewhich repository?03:12
mibR03:13
mibrbase03:13
RAOFThat's a software package, not a repository.  Also, this doesn't seem very relevant to launchpad.03:14
Hobbseeand whatever it is, it's not in ubuntu either.03:15
PengHe's referring to http://www.r-project.org/03:17
RAOFmib: Aaah.  I see.  R version 2.7.1 is available in the current development release of Ubuntu (Intrepid).03:17
RAOFSo, since this is an Ubuntu issue, it's off-topic for #launchpad.  But what you probably want to do is to request that this package gets backported.03:18
Hobbseeeither way a) this is the wrong place, b) it's already there, and c) a package is not a repository, nor vice versa.03:18
Hobbseeand d) if the topic doesn't mention something related to ubuntu, apart from where the logs are, it's *probably* not where you're looking for.03:19
RAOFmib: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#How%20to%20request%20new%20packages is what you're after.03:20
pooliehello Hobbsee btw03:24
mibRAOF,Hobb: do you mean 2.7.1 is available in Hardy but not in 6.06?03:24
Hobbseehey poolie!03:25
mibin this case, i need to request the package to be installed in the specific release of ubuntu?03:25
PengIs 6.06 even maintained anymore?03:25
Hobbseemib: no.03:25
HobbseePeng: yes.03:25
RAOFmib: No.  I mean 2.7.1 is available in Intrepid but not 8.04 (Hardy) or 6.06 (Dapper)03:25
* Peng forgets how the LTS thing works.03:25
Hobbsee[12:17] <RAOF> mib: Aaah.  I see.  R version 2.7.1 is available in the current development release of Ubuntu (Intrepid).03:25
PengReally long-term, then?03:25
Hobbseenowhere does that mention it being available in hardy.03:25
miboh.03:25
HobbseePeng: yeah - 3 years on desktop, 5 on server.03:25
mibbtw, what is intrepid03:26
mibkinda noob in this thing03:26
mibsorry03:26
Pengmib: The next release of Ubuntu.03:26
Peng(It's in development.)03:26
* Hobbsee suggests reading the part that she *just* quoted again.03:26
mibohh03:26
RAOFThe backport advice stands, however.03:28
PengDapper has version 2.2.1.. They probably won't backport it, right?03:29
mibdapper has 2.5.103:30
HobbseePeng: they can stick it in the unofficial backports, if it builds and doesn't require much other stuff to also be backported03:30
PengOh.03:31
mibbut certain packages only supported by 2.7.103:31
Hobbsee    r-base |    2.2.1-2 | dapper/universe | source, all03:31
RAOFRight.  And this is where you get to choose between "stable" and "new".03:31
* Hobbsee has no idea how mib qualifies his statement.03:31
mibwell, i want to use this bioconductor package03:32
RAOFIt's not 2.5.1 in backports?03:32
miband in order to use this package, they onl work with 2.7.1 of R03:32
HobbseeRAOF: i thought rmadison showed backports03:32
Hobbseemib: no, the one about dapper having 2.5.103:32
RAOFmib: If youv'e got 2.5.1 you may be using Gutsy (7.10).03:33
miboops..03:33
mibmy mistakes.03:33
mibim using gutsy03:33
mibso *blur*03:33
mibhttp://www.bioconductor.org/News/2008-05-01-Release03:34
mibsorry guys03:34
mibyeah..i tried on another pc of mine using hardy03:35
RAOFAnd that will have 2.6.2.03:35
RAOFWe know.03:35
mibokie03:35
RAOFIf you would like to have 2.7.1 available in an unsupported repository, follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#How%20to%20request%20new%20packages is what you're after.03:36
RAOFFailing that, I suggest #ubuntu is a more appropriate support channel.03:36
mibyeah.03:36
RAOFOr launchpad.net/answers03:36
mibi have requested just a min ago03:36
mibthanks03:42
Pengjml: So...bzr+http branches should start working again soon?06:45
jmlPeng: I hope so.06:46
Pengjml: But nosmart+http will be used, right?06:48
jmlPeng: no, we're turning that off.06:49
PengSo it'll really use bzr+http?06:49
* Peng gets confused.06:49
jmlPeng: it'll use http and let the server figure it out06:49
PengYay. :)06:49
jmlPeng: but! the underlying bug that caused us to switch to using nosmart+ in the first place still hasn't been fixed.06:50
PengWhat will happen then?06:50
* jml takes a step back.06:52
jmlPeng: when (if) that cherrypick lands, bzr+http branches won't mirror.06:53
jmlPeng: however, I hope that this will be fixed at the next release.06:53
jmlwhich is about a week away.06:54
PengOkay.06:54
jmlPeng: basically, switching to nosmart+ exposed another, more severe bug in bzr and so we're switching back.06:56
Pengnice06:58
mwhudsonbzr branch nosmart+<http url that redirects> explodes07:00
PengAwesome. Shouldn't nosmart+ be simple enough that that's impossible?07:19
mwhudsonit looks a bit like bzr's handling of redirects is just clever enough to be stupid07:19
mwhudsonspiv: did you see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/245964 yet?07:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245964 in launchpad-bazaar "Using nosmart+ in puller interacts badly with branch references" [Critical,In progress] 07:19
spivmwhudson: yeah07:20
spivOoh, my left mouse button is starting to misbehave.07:20
* mwhudson changes the summary of that bug07:20
spivI saw abentley chatting with you about it on #bzr too, I think.07:21
Pengspiv: What type of mouse?07:21
spivPeng: trackpad in laptop.07:21
PengOh.07:21
spiv:)07:21
PengHow easy will it be to replace?07:21
mwhudsonspiv: ah good07:22
mwhudsonspiv: it seems the code in do_catching_redirections in bzrdir.py to see if the end of the path bzr is being redirected to is the same as the end of the path bzr asked for is a bit screwy07:22
spivPeng: probably not very.  The laptop isn't exactly new, anyway.07:22
PengThat's good.07:23
spivmwhudson: sounds likely.  You should make that observation in the bug comments :)07:23
mwhudsonyeah07:23
Hobbseehow do i unsubscribe someone from a bug now?07:50
Hobbseeis it possible?07:51
Hobbseeright, i'm told i have to hit "subscribe yourself" to unsubscribe a team you belong to.  okay then...07:53
persiaIt's decidedly nonintuitive07:53
Hobbseemoreso than usual, too07:54
Hobbseeah well07:54
spivHobbsee: or you can go to Subscribe "Someone else", then there's a "Subscribe/Unsubscribe" link (for yourself/your team) in the portlet on that page.07:55
Hobbseespiv: tried that.  there isn't, anymore.07:55
Hobbseespiv: (are you using edge)?07:55
spivHobbsee: Hmm, I'm looking right at it07:55
spivyes07:55
Hobbseespiv: want a screenshot of what i get?07:56
spivMaybe I'm special because I'm a ~launchpad-dev person, or something.07:56
Hobbseeprobably07:56
ion_Any comments about https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+spec/base-36-bug-ids?07:57
Hobbseespiv: http://hobbsee.com/tmp/launchpad.png is all i get on that screen07:58
spivHobbsee: um, I see a "Subscribe/Unsubscribe" link in tha screenshot08:02
Hobbseespiv: oh, so do you have to go through two menu options to get to the unsubscribe section now?  if you start via subscribing someone else?08:03
spivHobbsee: I have no idea what the intended UI design is, I just happened to notice that link. :)08:04
Hobbseespiv: that link apperas to take you to the standard "subscribe yourself" screen.08:04
spivHobbsee: it's probably time to ignore my random misguided observations and file a bug :)08:08
Hobbseespiv: heh.  thanks for your help :)08:09
Hobbseespiv: i think they are aware it's all different, and difficult to understand.08:09
Hobbseeit just means more people coming in here asking how do to do something they could do with no problems a month ago08:09
Pengmwhudson: Bug 245964's title is messed up now -- "interacts redirects".08:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245964 in launchpad-bazaar "Using nosmart+ in puller interacts redirects" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24596408:10
Hobbsee(so they can still get their regular stuff done, without searching for a while about where a particular option has moved to now)08:10
mwhudsonPeng: oops08:10
mwhudsonPeng: it's "nosmart+http interacts badly with http redirects" now08:12
Peng:)08:12
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mptGooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!09:10
Hobbseehey mpt!09:12
mptIf you can read this, I have convinced this laptop to start up09:13
Hobbseeindeed!  well done!09:13
siretartmwhudson: hi there. any chance you could import a non-trunk svn branch? question #38158 has the background09:34
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mrevell\sh: ping10:58
\shmrevell: pong11:27
mrevellhi \sh11:27
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Stavroshello11:56
Stavroscan i push some code to my branch without my public key (i don't have it on hand here)?11:57
Pengno11:58
Stavrosthe only way i can push code is with an ssh key?11:58
PengFor whatever reason, LP doesn't do password auth with SSH.11:58
PengAFAIK, yes.11:58
Stavrosah, thanks11:58
Stavroscan i move a milestone to another series, or delete the milestone or a series?11:59
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TirionHello! Can anyone help me with registering project on Launchpad?13:05
PengI probably can't, but what's going on?13:09
sivanghi all13:09
Hobbseeheya sivang!13:09
sivangHobbsee: hi there Sara13:09
sivangHobbsee: how are you doing ?13:09
Hobbseesivang: with an h!13:10
TirionPeng, how can I create project with four or five developers? May be it must be a team? But how can I connect team with project?13:11
Hobbseesivang: doing OK - trying to find out who's done this gorgeous wallpaper on one of the intrepid wiki pages13:11
PengTirion: I have no idea, but it should be obvious enough. Create your project, create your team, and assign the team as the owner of the project or something.13:11
sivangi wonder if someone could tell me if launchpad qa vacancy  is still relevant (the ad is still online) as i've sent my application 2 days ago and want to know if i should expect a response or so.13:12
LarstiQsivang: you know there's a weekend inbetween? :)13:13
sivangLarstiQ: sure :) it's just hit me that it might be already too late, i just wanted to make sure 13:15
LarstiQsivang: that I do not know, but I'd expect to hear that from whomever you sent it to in due time?13:16
andrea-bsTirion: maybe this can help you: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Registering13:18
Tirionandrea-bs, I've read it. This text : To register a project group, file a support request with the Launchpad team.13:23
andrea-bsTirion: warning: a project group is not a team13:24
andrea-bsTirion: Some larger free software projects are actually several related projects working under the same banner. For example: Firefox is part of the Mozilla project. Launchpad represents these as projects (Firefox) and project groups (Mozilla). 13:24
andrea-bsTirion: here you can read how to create a team: https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning ;)13:25
TirionOh sorry. And what do I need?13:25
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sivangLarstiQ: probably13:27
andrea-bsTirion: you have to create a project, then a team and to link them you should read here and choose whatever you prefer: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Registering#Roles%20within%20projects13:27
Tirionandrea-bs, thank you.13:28
andrea-bsTirion: you are welcome :)13:28
siretartdoes the vcs-importer support svn:externals nowadays?14:01
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SnaggenAny member of the VCSImport team here?14:33
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BlinghamGood morning all - I've searched through the LP website, and all of it's answers/help/FAQ topics, and was wondering if someone could help me with a very simple question with regard to the bugs.launchpad.net mailing list for Ubuntu, that I just can't seem to find an answer to?16:10
andrea-bsBlingham: are you talking about the list desktop-bugs? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs16:14
Blinghamandrea-bs: that is EXACTLY what I was looking for.  I knew I had come to the right place.. Thanks!16:20
andrea-bsBlingham: you are welcome :)16:21
tsoilandHow often is the staging server reset?19:01
PengI'm pretty sure it says somewhere.19:02
PengDaily maybe?19:02
tsoilandI hope so. I changed my password on launchpad, and It seems I have to wait for the reset before I can log in to staging with the new password.19:04
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newz2000hi, lemon and I are trying to figure out how to colloborate on code in launchpad22:26
newz2000he created a branch from my code and now wants to publish changes22:26
PengHe could push to his own branch and you could merge it.22:26
lemonwell, I've never user bazaar before22:27
PengOr you could create a team for yourselves and create a shared branch.22:27
newz2000it is a shared branch under ubuntu-website22:27
newz2000I think22:27
newz2000https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~newz/ubuntu-website/start-page22:27
lemonI did what under svn is a checkout :-)22:27
PengUnless ~newz is a team, not so much.22:27
newz2000ah, bummer22:27
* newz2000 is learning too22:27
lemonso, I got a copy on my local computer and modified it there...22:28
newz2000can I make it a shared branch for him to merge into?22:28
wgrantnewz2000: YOu could transfer the branch ownership to a team.22:28
wgrantNote that that will change the URL.22:28
newz2000wgrant: will that be the best in the long run?22:29
wgrantnewz2000: Unless you want to manually merge every change, yes.22:29
newz2000(more people will be working on this)22:29
wgrantThis is good.22:30
wgrantHas somebody fixed the focus yet?22:30
newz2000not sure what the focus is22:30
lemonMust go to get something to dinner. Will leave this open and try to read what you decide later.22:31
wgrantThe start page's search box steals (or stole, until I changed it because it was so annoying) focus.22:31
newz2000ok, I'll let you know lemon, thanks22:31
newz2000wgrant: yes, actually, lemon has done that22:31
wgrantWonderful.22:31
newz2000well, fixed it so it happens instantly rather than delayed after 2-3 seconds22:31
wgrantThat is my largest gripe with a fresh 8.04.1 installation yesterday.22:32
wgrantArrrgh.22:32
wgrantWe have a perfectly good search box in Firefox already!22:32
lemonfocus stealing is always very irritating22:32
newz2000there are other forces at work22:32
wgrantIf we need a special searchbox on our start page, it should be in Firefox instead.22:32
newz2000so it's "less annoying" now22:32
newz2000I think for now I'd like to keep ownership since I don't know what team should own it.22:34
newz2000So lemon should create his own branch and publish it there, then I'll merge his copy to mine?22:34
wgrantOK, so lemon will have to push to his own branch.22:34
wgrantRight.22:34
wgrantHe'll push to ~hisusername/ubuntu-website/something22:34
newz2000ok, got it22:34
wgrantAnd you can `bzr merge lp:~hisusername/ubuntu-website/something`, then commit.22:34
newz2000so lemon, when you're back, do bzr push lp:~lemon/ubuntu-website/start-page and then ping me (replace ~lemon with ~your-username)22:36
newz2000thanks for the help wgrant22:36
wgrantnp22:36
lemonhi again newz200022:54
newz2000hey lemon22:54
lemoncan't do it right now as I'm not on the computer where I did the changes22:54
lemonbut I take note and will do it tomorrow morning22:54
newz2000ok. I'm going to forward details to the mailing list too since others will be working on this. Thanks a bunch for your help!22:55
zyx386hi23:27
zyx386everyone from translation team ?23:28

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