[01:55] Hey, I tried bzr push to a lp: and got: [01:55] bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() [01:56] [10:44] 00:38:17> ScottWegner: you have to run bzr launchpad-login [01:56] ffm: ^ [01:56] [10:44] 00:41:29> hmmm, it looks like I don't even have launchpad-login command on this laptop-- does anybody know what packages it's in, offhand? [01:56] [10:44] 00:41:56> ScottWegner: which version of bzr do you have? [01:56] [10:44] 00:42:22> 1.3.1-1ubuntu0.1, from the repos [01:57] [10:44] 00:42:46> oh, it's quite old; you have to use bzr+ssh [01:57] Hobbsee: No, I have it. [01:57] [10:44] 00:43:38> ScottWegner: bzr push bzr+ssh://username@bazaar.launchpad.net/~team/project/branch [01:57] Hobbsee: howevre, I get bzr: ERROR: Target directory lp:~ffm/pyroom/proper-theme-paths already exists, but does not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply --use-existing-dir to push there anyway. [01:57] (was asked ~10 hours ago) [01:58] strange. i presume you want to redo the bzr directory there, or something. i don't know. [01:58] Hobbsee: this is an init push;. [01:58] poolie: can you help? [01:59] ffm: that's pretty odd [02:01] Hobbsee: hi [02:02] ffm: did you manage to push your branch ? [02:02] ffm, if you don't have launchpad-login using ssh is a direct substitute [02:02] mwhudson: I _think_ so. [02:02] it looks ok to me [02:02] does it work if you do use --use-existing-dir? [02:02] poolie: yeah [02:03] that's kind of odd [02:03] this can occur if you interrupt bzr in the middle of an initial push [02:03] so it's made the directory but can't really see it's a bzr directory [03:08] hi. [03:09] can someone update the repository for R package to 2.7.1 which is the latest one? [03:09] thanks [03:11] ? [03:12] yea [03:12] hobbsee [03:12] * Hobbsee suggests fail on multiple levele.s [03:12] er, levels [03:12] * Hobbsee advocates reading the topic? [03:12] ?? [03:12] which repository? [03:13] R [03:13] rbase [03:14] That's a software package, not a repository. Also, this doesn't seem very relevant to launchpad. [03:15] and whatever it is, it's not in ubuntu either. [03:17] He's referring to http://www.r-project.org/ [03:17] mib: Aaah. I see. R version 2.7.1 is available in the current development release of Ubuntu (Intrepid). [03:18] So, since this is an Ubuntu issue, it's off-topic for #launchpad. But what you probably want to do is to request that this package gets backported. [03:18] either way a) this is the wrong place, b) it's already there, and c) a package is not a repository, nor vice versa. [03:19] and d) if the topic doesn't mention something related to ubuntu, apart from where the logs are, it's *probably* not where you're looking for. [03:20] mib: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#How%20to%20request%20new%20packages is what you're after. [03:24] hello Hobbsee btw [03:24] RAOF,Hobb: do you mean 2.7.1 is available in Hardy but not in 6.06? [03:25] hey poolie! [03:25] in this case, i need to request the package to be installed in the specific release of ubuntu? [03:25] Is 6.06 even maintained anymore? [03:25] mib: no. [03:25] Peng: yes. [03:25] mib: No. I mean 2.7.1 is available in Intrepid but not 8.04 (Hardy) or 6.06 (Dapper) [03:25] * Peng forgets how the LTS thing works. [03:25] [12:17] mib: Aaah. I see. R version 2.7.1 is available in the current development release of Ubuntu (Intrepid). [03:25] Really long-term, then? [03:25] nowhere does that mention it being available in hardy. [03:25] oh. [03:25] Peng: yeah - 3 years on desktop, 5 on server. [03:26] btw, what is intrepid [03:26] kinda noob in this thing [03:26] sorry [03:26] mib: The next release of Ubuntu. [03:26] (It's in development.) [03:26] * Hobbsee suggests reading the part that she *just* quoted again. [03:26] ohh [03:28] The backport advice stands, however. [03:29] Dapper has version 2.2.1.. They probably won't backport it, right? [03:30] dapper has 2.5.1 [03:30] Peng: they can stick it in the unofficial backports, if it builds and doesn't require much other stuff to also be backported [03:31] Oh. [03:31] but certain packages only supported by 2.7.1 [03:31] r-base | 2.2.1-2 | dapper/universe | source, all [03:31] Right. And this is where you get to choose between "stable" and "new". [03:31] * Hobbsee has no idea how mib qualifies his statement. [03:32] well, i want to use this bioconductor package [03:32] It's not 2.5.1 in backports? [03:32] and in order to use this package, they onl work with 2.7.1 of R [03:32] RAOF: i thought rmadison showed backports [03:32] mib: no, the one about dapper having 2.5.1 [03:33] mib: If youv'e got 2.5.1 you may be using Gutsy (7.10). [03:33] oops.. [03:33] my mistakes. [03:33] im using gutsy [03:33] so *blur* [03:34] http://www.bioconductor.org/News/2008-05-01-Release [03:34] sorry guys [03:35] yeah..i tried on another pc of mine using hardy [03:35] And that will have 2.6.2. [03:35] We know. [03:35] okie [03:36] If you would like to have 2.7.1 available in an unsupported repository, follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#How%20to%20request%20new%20packages is what you're after. [03:36] Failing that, I suggest #ubuntu is a more appropriate support channel. [03:36] yeah. [03:36] Or launchpad.net/answers [03:36] i have requested just a min ago [03:42] thanks [06:45] jml: So...bzr+http branches should start working again soon? [06:46] Peng: I hope so. [06:48] jml: But nosmart+http will be used, right? [06:49] Peng: no, we're turning that off. [06:49] So it'll really use bzr+http? [06:49] * Peng gets confused. [06:49] Peng: it'll use http and let the server figure it out [06:49] Yay. :) [06:50] Peng: but! the underlying bug that caused us to switch to using nosmart+ in the first place still hasn't been fixed. [06:50] What will happen then? [06:52] * jml takes a step back. [06:53] Peng: when (if) that cherrypick lands, bzr+http branches won't mirror. [06:53] Peng: however, I hope that this will be fixed at the next release. [06:54] which is about a week away. [06:54] Okay. [06:56] Peng: basically, switching to nosmart+ exposed another, more severe bug in bzr and so we're switching back. [06:58] nice [07:00] bzr branch nosmart+ explodes [07:19] Awesome. Shouldn't nosmart+ be simple enough that that's impossible? [07:19] it looks a bit like bzr's handling of redirects is just clever enough to be stupid [07:19] spiv: did you see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/245964 yet? [07:19] Launchpad bug 245964 in launchpad-bazaar "Using nosmart+ in puller interacts badly with branch references" [Critical,In progress] [07:20] mwhudson: yeah [07:20] Ooh, my left mouse button is starting to misbehave. [07:20] * mwhudson changes the summary of that bug [07:21] I saw abentley chatting with you about it on #bzr too, I think. [07:21] spiv: What type of mouse? [07:21] Peng: trackpad in laptop. [07:21] Oh. [07:21] :) [07:21] How easy will it be to replace? [07:22] spiv: ah good [07:22] spiv: it seems the code in do_catching_redirections in bzrdir.py to see if the end of the path bzr is being redirected to is the same as the end of the path bzr asked for is a bit screwy [07:22] Peng: probably not very. The laptop isn't exactly new, anyway. [07:23] That's good. [07:23] mwhudson: sounds likely. You should make that observation in the bug comments :) [07:23] yeah [07:50] how do i unsubscribe someone from a bug now? [07:51] is it possible? [07:53] right, i'm told i have to hit "subscribe yourself" to unsubscribe a team you belong to. okay then... [07:53] It's decidedly nonintuitive [07:54] moreso than usual, too [07:54] ah well [07:55] Hobbsee: or you can go to Subscribe "Someone else", then there's a "Subscribe/Unsubscribe" link (for yourself/your team) in the portlet on that page. [07:55] spiv: tried that. there isn't, anymore. [07:55] spiv: (are you using edge)? [07:55] Hobbsee: Hmm, I'm looking right at it [07:55] yes [07:56] spiv: want a screenshot of what i get? [07:56] Maybe I'm special because I'm a ~launchpad-dev person, or something. [07:56] probably [07:57] Any comments about https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+spec/base-36-bug-ids? [07:58] spiv: http://hobbsee.com/tmp/launchpad.png is all i get on that screen [08:02] Hobbsee: um, I see a "Subscribe/Unsubscribe" link in tha screenshot [08:03] spiv: oh, so do you have to go through two menu options to get to the unsubscribe section now? if you start via subscribing someone else? [08:04] Hobbsee: I have no idea what the intended UI design is, I just happened to notice that link. :) [08:04] spiv: that link apperas to take you to the standard "subscribe yourself" screen. [08:08] Hobbsee: it's probably time to ignore my random misguided observations and file a bug :) [08:09] spiv: heh. thanks for your help :) [08:09] spiv: i think they are aware it's all different, and difficult to understand. [08:09] it just means more people coming in here asking how do to do something they could do with no problems a month ago [08:10] mwhudson: Bug 245964's title is messed up now -- "interacts redirects". [08:10] Launchpad bug 245964 in launchpad-bazaar "Using nosmart+ in puller interacts redirects" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245964 [08:10] (so they can still get their regular stuff done, without searching for a while about where a particular option has moved to now) [08:10] Peng: oops [08:12] Peng: it's "nosmart+http interacts badly with http redirects" now [08:12] :) === cyrusrayne is now known as cyrusrayne|sleep [09:10] Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [09:12] hey mpt! [09:13] If you can read this, I have convinced this laptop to start up [09:13] indeed! well done! [09:34] mwhudson: hi there. any chance you could import a non-trunk svn branch? question #38158 has the background === mdz_ is now known as mdz [10:58] \sh: ping [11:27] <\sh> mrevell: pong [11:27] hi \sh === cyrusrayne|sleep is now known as cyrusrayne [11:56] hello [11:57] can i push some code to my branch without my public key (i don't have it on hand here)? [11:58] no [11:58] the only way i can push code is with an ssh key? [11:58] For whatever reason, LP doesn't do password auth with SSH. [11:58] AFAIK, yes. [11:58] ah, thanks [11:59] can i move a milestone to another series, or delete the milestone or a series? === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [13:05] Hello! Can anyone help me with registering project on Launchpad? [13:09] I probably can't, but what's going on? [13:09] hi all [13:09] heya sivang! [13:09] Hobbsee: hi there Sara [13:09] Hobbsee: how are you doing ? [13:10] sivang: with an h! [13:11] Peng, how can I create project with four or five developers? May be it must be a team? But how can I connect team with project? [13:11] sivang: doing OK - trying to find out who's done this gorgeous wallpaper on one of the intrepid wiki pages [13:11] Tirion: I have no idea, but it should be obvious enough. Create your project, create your team, and assign the team as the owner of the project or something. [13:12] i wonder if someone could tell me if launchpad qa vacancy is still relevant (the ad is still online) as i've sent my application 2 days ago and want to know if i should expect a response or so. [13:13] sivang: you know there's a weekend inbetween? :) [13:15] LarstiQ: sure :) it's just hit me that it might be already too late, i just wanted to make sure [13:16] sivang: that I do not know, but I'd expect to hear that from whomever you sent it to in due time? [13:18] Tirion: maybe this can help you: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Registering [13:23] andrea-bs, I've read it. This text : To register a project group, file a support request with the Launchpad team. [13:24] Tirion: warning: a project group is not a team [13:24] Tirion: Some larger free software projects are actually several related projects working under the same banner. For example: Firefox is part of the Mozilla project. Launchpad represents these as projects (Firefox) and project groups (Mozilla). [13:25] Tirion: here you can read how to create a team: https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning ;) [13:25] Oh sorry. And what do I need? === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:27] LarstiQ: probably [13:27] Tirion: you have to create a project, then a team and to link them you should read here and choose whatever you prefer: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Registering#Roles%20within%20projects [13:28] andrea-bs, thank you. [13:28] Tirion: you are welcome :) [14:01] does the vcs-importer support svn:externals nowadays? === Yhouse|off is now known as Yhouse [14:26] * Yhouse e' away (Sto andando via) === Yhouse is now known as Yhouse|off [14:33] Any member of the VCSImport team here? === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === jt1 is now known as jtv === EdwinGrub is now known as EdwinGrubbs === asac_ is now known as asac === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [16:10] Good morning all - I've searched through the LP website, and all of it's answers/help/FAQ topics, and was wondering if someone could help me with a very simple question with regard to the bugs.launchpad.net mailing list for Ubuntu, that I just can't seem to find an answer to? [16:14] Blingham: are you talking about the list desktop-bugs? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs [16:20] andrea-bs: that is EXACTLY what I was looking for. I knew I had come to the right place.. Thanks! [16:21] Blingham: you are welcome :) [19:01] How often is the staging server reset? [19:02] I'm pretty sure it says somewhere. [19:02] Daily maybe? [19:04] I hope so. I changed my password on launchpad, and It seems I have to wait for the reset before I can log in to staging with the new password. === barry_ is now known as barry [22:26] hi, lemon and I are trying to figure out how to colloborate on code in launchpad [22:26] he created a branch from my code and now wants to publish changes [22:26] He could push to his own branch and you could merge it. [22:27] well, I've never user bazaar before [22:27] Or you could create a team for yourselves and create a shared branch. [22:27] it is a shared branch under ubuntu-website [22:27] I think [22:27] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~newz/ubuntu-website/start-page [22:27] I did what under svn is a checkout :-) [22:27] Unless ~newz is a team, not so much. [22:27] ah, bummer [22:27] * newz2000 is learning too [22:28] so, I got a copy on my local computer and modified it there... [22:28] can I make it a shared branch for him to merge into? [22:28] newz2000: YOu could transfer the branch ownership to a team. [22:28] Note that that will change the URL. [22:29] wgrant: will that be the best in the long run? [22:29] newz2000: Unless you want to manually merge every change, yes. [22:29] (more people will be working on this) [22:30] This is good. [22:30] Has somebody fixed the focus yet? [22:30] not sure what the focus is [22:31] Must go to get something to dinner. Will leave this open and try to read what you decide later. [22:31] The start page's search box steals (or stole, until I changed it because it was so annoying) focus. [22:31] ok, I'll let you know lemon, thanks [22:31] wgrant: yes, actually, lemon has done that [22:31] Wonderful. [22:31] well, fixed it so it happens instantly rather than delayed after 2-3 seconds [22:32] That is my largest gripe with a fresh 8.04.1 installation yesterday. [22:32] Arrrgh. [22:32] We have a perfectly good search box in Firefox already! [22:32] focus stealing is always very irritating [22:32] there are other forces at work [22:32] If we need a special searchbox on our start page, it should be in Firefox instead. [22:32] so it's "less annoying" now [22:34] I think for now I'd like to keep ownership since I don't know what team should own it. [22:34] So lemon should create his own branch and publish it there, then I'll merge his copy to mine? [22:34] OK, so lemon will have to push to his own branch. [22:34] Right. [22:34] He'll push to ~hisusername/ubuntu-website/something [22:34] ok, got it [22:34] And you can `bzr merge lp:~hisusername/ubuntu-website/something`, then commit. [22:36] so lemon, when you're back, do bzr push lp:~lemon/ubuntu-website/start-page and then ping me (replace ~lemon with ~your-username) [22:36] thanks for the help wgrant [22:36] np [22:54] hi again newz2000 [22:54] hey lemon [22:54] can't do it right now as I'm not on the computer where I did the changes [22:54] but I take note and will do it tomorrow morning [22:55] ok. I'm going to forward details to the mailing list too since others will be working on this. Thanks a bunch for your help! [23:27] hi [23:28] everyone from translation team ?