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tseliottjaalton: bump what?00:07
tseliotI can't drop the Provides, otherwise the packages wouldn't replace each other00:08
tseliotok, maybe you can send me an email about this00:11
m-cbryce: I believe you are quoted in the latest Phoronix article.  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjU3Mw  I wanted to add my two cents, in case your opinion is to can BulletProofX.01:43
m-cI wanted to say that the ability of a novice to get into a GUI, launch Xchat or Firefox, regardless of how messed up the x-configuration is due to kernel updates or other strange x-auto-config tools, well, I feel getting a basic X GUI up in those cases is one of Ubuntu's biggest advantages.01:44
m-cAnyway, good luck with all the important work here.  And I hope the integration of the new AMD/Novell open 3D "radeon" and "radeonHD" drivers goes well, for the next ubuntu release.  Kind regards.01:45
tseliottjaalton: can you explain me what you meant by ABI bump last night? ABI bump for what? The kernel?09:12
tjaaltonthey Provide: xserver-xorg-video-209:13
tjaaltonwhich is useful if you only want to have the binary driver installed09:13
tjaaltonso probably the best fix would be to add a build-dep on xserver-xorg-dev and generate the abiver like the rest of the drivers do09:14
tjaaltonbecause then the same package would be easier to backport (if someone would like that)09:14
tjaaltonie. don't hardcode the abiver09:15
tjaaltonand that's the video-abi version of the xserver09:15
tseliottjaalton: I had never noticed this thing before. Would I just have to add that build-dep without touching the rest?09:21
tjaaltontseliot: you need to change the rules too. see any free driver package how it's done09:22
tjaaltonthey use the xsfbs-stuff, but you can just copy a few lines straight to the rules09:22
tseliottjaalton: which part of this file? http://pastebin.com/m7a8358f609:25
tseliotthis is the rules of the Intel driver09:25
tjaaltoninclude debian/xsfbs/xsfbs.mk09:26
tjaaltonsee that09:26
tseliotyes09:26
tseliotand that's it?09:26
tjaaltontheres a function 'serverabi'09:26
tseliotok, I see it09:27
tjaaltoncopy that in rules, and call it from binary-arch:09:27
tjaaltonshould work09:27
tseliotok, I can do it09:29
tseliotthanks :-)09:29
tjaaltonyou don't need the "xinpdriver" line09:29
tseliotwhere?09:30
tjaaltonfrom the function09:30
tjaaltonoh and also see the control file09:30
tjaaltonthere's Provides: $(xviddriver:Provides)09:31
tseliotI don't see any xinpdriver. Yes, I will have a look at the control file09:32
tjaaltonin xsfbs.mk..09:33
tseliotah, I should have paid more attention to the path of the include in rules09:34
tseliotok, I will add that folder too09:35
tjaaltonit's enough to just copy the function/rule to debian/rules09:35
tseliotok, only serverabi then?09:36
tjaaltonyes09:37
tseliotwhich package should the debian/$(PACKAGE).substvars be created for?09:39
tjaaltonthe one with the driver09:39
tjaaltonie. the one with the current Provides...09:39
tjaaltonreplace xserver-xorg-video-2 with $(xviddriver:Provides)09:40
tseliotnvidia-<VER>-kernel-source09:40
tjaaltonno, it's nvidia-glx-VER which provides that09:41
tseliotah, ok09:42
tseliotand that's it?09:42
tjaaltonpretty much09:43
tseliotI won't have to include the mk file since I will just copy the function I need, right?09:45
tjaaltonright09:45
tseliotI don't think we can backport the drivers without effort since the patches which I wrote are specific to 2.6.26 kernels09:46
tseliotMaybe from Intrepid+1 to Intrepid...09:46
tjaaltonwell, it's still one step less to do manually10:03
tseliotsure10:04
BUGabundo_work1tseliot: hi there11:36
BUGabundo_work1bryce: any news on nVidia driver for 2.6.26 ?11:36
BUGabundo_work1tseliot: http://www.albertomilone.com/driver.html link is dead11:38
tseliotBUGabundo_work1: we're still testing the drivers11:39
BUGabundo_work1thanks11:48
BUGabundo_work1oh he went way11:48
tjaaltonbryce: I've done a small script for just that.. input drivers ready for upload15:42
tjaaltonwell, still waiting for ia6415:42
tjaaltonvideo drivers ready as well15:56
tjaaltonbbl, gone to play some ultimate ->15:57
bryceheya alex-weej18:32
brycealex-weej: I missed you earlier, but yes I think I could mentor you on the color profile work 18:33
brycetjaalton: ok cool, let me know where I could help18:34
alex-weejbryce: wicked, i'll work a bit on the spec/whiteboard more and ping you when i'm done if that's cool?18:44
brycegreat :-)18:44
tormodtjaalton: hi, I built the server from git (1.5 branch) and now I need "AllowEmptyInput" for mouse and keyboard to work. is the input hotplugging not up to task?18:45
* tormod has to run19:01
tjaaltonbryce: heh, it's just about pressing the red button :)19:29
tjaaltonbryce: actually, you could merge the video drivers that we have changed19:30
tjaaltonor just add a note about a rebuild19:30
tjaaltonbut don't upload just yet19:30
tjaaltongone again.. ->19:30
tjaaltontormod: so you don't have any inputdevice-sections on the xorg.conf?23:32
tjaalton(I'm back)23:32
tormodtjaalton: hi, I tried both without xorg.conf and with the autogenerated one (I think it had a mouse and a keyboard section)23:34
tjaaltontormod: strange, it works on my laptop..23:35
tjaaltoninput-hotplug is another story..23:35
tormodI also tried replugging the keyboard and mouse without luck. only the AEI option worked.23:35
tormodI guess it is the last commit in xserver: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=server-1.5-branch&id=c30f36c8c1dfd85deaf1c109823a1f15dd218ac723:36
tjaaltonwhee, xorg-server built on all archs23:36
tormoddo you have that one on your laptop?23:36
tjaaltontormod: no, rc523:37
tormodthat would explain it23:37
tjaaltonand that's also in the archive23:37
tjaaltonso there's a bug? let sascha know about it :)23:37
tormodthat's my question, is it a bug in xserver or is it the Hardy stuff that needs something special?23:38
tormoddo you know Sascha's irc nick?23:39
tjaaltonno I don't ..23:39
Kanohi tjaalton , why does intrepid have got a fbdev override entry in xorg.conf which prevents x from starting on many systems?23:41
tjaaltonKano: it's not set on i386/amd6423:44
Kanowell i installed it today23:44
Kanoand there was an override flag there which was not on hardy23:45
tjaaltoncheck xserver-xorg.postinst and find out why it's set23:45
Kanoit is23:45
Kanoppc might need it but nothing else23:45
tjaaltoncheck the postinst..23:46
Kanoit is your package, check it23:46
tjaaltonuh23:46
tjaaltonno23:46
tjaaltonI don't have hardware where it's broken. you find out why it is and report back23:47
tjaaltonit's not like xorg has changed..23:47
tjaaltonsomething else has23:47
Kanoalso i dont think that it will work with your kernel config anyway23:58
Kanobecause vesafb is disabled and for uvesafb the user mode tools are missig23:59

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