[00:00] <Odd-rationale> umm.. is eth0 your wired device?
[00:00] <Usuario> hmmm, can't pastebin, cause no connection ... i don't know, but dhcp doesn't work, even tho the icon appears like there is a connection   monitor icon not x'd out
[00:01] <Usuario> its etho cable, but when i tried manual config i had to select etho avahi to get ip address, but it did not match the ip addresses that i got from this other windows machine doing ipconfig
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> open up a terminal on the machine. make sure the wire is plugged in and run these to commands:
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> sudo dhclient -r eth0
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> sudo dhclient eth0
[00:03] <Usuario> you mean the windows machine or the ubuntu machine
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: the ubuntu machine that you are trying to connect...
[00:03] <Usuario> ok, brb
[00:07] <Usuario> ok, what should i be looking for in the output
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: try to "ping -c 3 google.com"
[00:09] <Usuario> in terminal type that
[00:09] <Usuario> sorry i don't know where question mark is on this spanish keyboard, nothing matches, ezackly
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> you should be looking for something like"bound to 192.168.1.101 -- renewal in 299133 seconds." in the output
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: yes, ping in terminal
[00:12] <Usuario> i get invalid option 3
[00:15] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: from dhclient? or ping?
[00:16] <Usuario> ping
[00:18] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: did you type it in exactly as i wrote? ping -c 3 google.com
[00:19] <Usuario> lemme try again
[00:22] <Usuario> is it 3google.com or 3 google.com does it make a difference
[00:24] <Usuario> unknown host google.com
[00:24] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: there is a space between 3 and google
[00:24] <Usuario> ya, i did it with the space
[00:25] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: or just see if you can browse the web...
[00:25] <Usuario> no, cannot yet
[00:26] <Usuario> we never discussed the output of the dhclient command you gave me
[00:28] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: hmm. did the sudo dhclient eth1 give any errors?
[00:28] <Odd-rationale> eth0
[00:28] <Odd-rationale> well, you should get something like "bound to 192.168.1.101 -- renewal in 299133 seconds." in the output
[00:28] <Usuario> the last two lines are no DHCPOFFERS received, and no working leases in persistant databases ... sleeping
[00:29] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: do you know whether the server is running a dhcp server? or no?
[00:30] <Usuario> i don't know and the owner doesn't either
[00:31] <Odd-rationale> well, then probably it doesn't...
[00:31] <Usuario> but i can't get an automatic connection, i do know that
[00:31] <Odd-rationale> you will have to setup the server and client for a static ip address...
[00:31] <Usuario> i did an ipconfig in the windows terminal on this machine and tried manually inserting that output via static ip entry boxes, but no connection either
[00:33]  * Usuario is lost
[00:34] <pierrereimertz> Anyone here who can help a beginner?
[00:35] <Usuario> pierrereimertz: whassup, from one beginner to another
[00:35] <pierrereimertz> hehe
[00:35] <pierrereimertz> im fine, thank you. :)
[00:35] <pierrereimertz> im trying to get my hfs+ external usb drive to connect to my ps3
[00:35] <pierrereimertz> im at 7.10
[00:35] <pierrereimertz> gutsy
[00:36] <Usuario> ok, hope someone else is listening cuz that one is out of my scope...
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: sorry, i lost connection...
[00:36] <pierrereimertz> with kernel 2.6.25
[00:36] <pierrereimertz> (ok, Usuario :) )
[00:37] <pierrereimertz> But it seems that the kernel dosen't have hfs+ support
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: as i was saying, you either need to setup a static ip, or setup a dhcp server...
[00:37] <Usuario> okis, don't know if you saw that i  said i had done an ipconfig in the windows terminal on this machine, and i tried those numbers in the network config for static ip on the ubuntu box, but no function there either
[00:38] <Usuario> what do you suggest i do next then
[00:38] <pierrereimertz> (Odd-rationale, if your a linux expert, is it ok if i ask you a question after your done with Usuario?)
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> pierrereimertz: no, because i am not a linux expert... :(
[00:38] <pierrereimertz> hehe, ok
[00:39] <Odd-rationale> pierrereimertz: ask anyways, there are plenty of people in the channel...
[00:39] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: where is the other end of the wire plugged into? a router?
[00:40] <Usuario> yes, i say hesitantly
[00:40] <Usuario> carlos rebooted the routers today to get these windows machines back up, and mine is the last one in the string as far as i know
[00:41] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: i haven't had much experience with the server side of networking...
[00:41] <Odd-rationale> plus the server is on windows?
[00:42] <Usuario> yes
[00:43] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: i afraid i can't help much further... the best thing you can do is find out how to configure dhcp on ther server...
[00:44] <Usuario> omg, i lost now
[00:44] <Odd-rationale> or find out whether or not it runs dhcp...
[00:44] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: it helps to know the network configuration... :)
[00:45] <Usuario> ok, is that something you could tell me where to find on his computer, which is the server
[00:47] <Odd-rationale> well, i never setup a dhcp server in windows...
[00:47] <Odd-rationale> in fact, i didn't know what dhcp was when i was using windows... ;)
[00:47] <pierrereimertz> Problem; Cant get my HFS + (not journaled) External drive to connect with my PS3. Im running Xubuntu 7.10 with kernel 2.6.25 (may be a custom one that i found psubuntu.com). I can se both partitions on the desktop but when i try to open them it says "hfpsplus not supported" .
[00:48] <Usuario> ok, well thanks for all your help anyways, i will ask around the restaurant and see if anyone knows about server side
[00:48] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: sorry i couldn't help more..
[00:49] <Odd-rationale> pierrereimertz: can you not use another file system?
[00:49] <pierrereimertz> no
[00:49] <Usuario> np, you always try i think this is first time we stumped
[00:50] <Odd-rationale> Usuario: i don't remember what we worked on last... ;)
[00:50] <pierrereimertz> i have a external drive with hfs+ on the partitions.. xubuntu wont mount them
[00:50] <Odd-rationale> pierrereimertz: is hfs supported on ubuntu?
[00:50] <Usuario> anybody else know how i might proceed with this connection problem, linking an ubuntu box to a wired windows network
[00:50] <pierrereimertz> yeah
[00:50] <pierrereimertz> i think so, on standard kernels
[00:51] <pierrereimertz> but i have a special one because i sit on a ps3
[00:54] <pierrereimertz> does anyone know how to upgrade a kernel?
[00:54] <pierrereimertz> i really wonder if its just something in the xubuntu
[00:54] <Odd-rationale> !hfs
[00:57] <pierrereimertz> when i write sudo fdisk -l i dont se the tables
[00:57] <pierrereimertz> its so wierd everything..
[00:57] <pierrereimertz> i really wonder if should reinstall xubuntu
[00:58] <pierrereimertz> but i dont want to loose my kernel with wifisupport..
[01:02] <Odd-rationale> i gtg. hope you all solve you issues...
[02:00] <computer> hi there, looking for some help with xubuntu on an ibook g3 500mhz. having display issues
[02:04] <giacomo_casanova> hi there, I'm looking for some help with display problems. xubuntu 7.04 ppc, ibook g3 500 mhz
[02:19] <Rev_Willie_Crow> just installed xubuntu on my Sony VGN-C140G, everything worked out of the box.
[02:19] <Rev_Willie_Crow> this is the first distro that has.
[04:37] <leprasmurf> hey all.  I installed xubuntu on an asus eee pc.  I'm having trouble getting connected to my wifi.  I'm pretty sure my wpa_supplicant is working as 'sudo iwlist ath0 scanning' shows my correct network but then I'm not getting an ip
[06:36] <chowder> I have a question. Is it just me or does every version of Ubuntu have some "gnomish" element to it?
[06:37] <chowder> I'm using Xubuntu right now and I've noticed the similar feel it has to Gnome
[06:39] <RoughriderUT> How much hard drive space would an xubuntu install take up?
[06:41] <chowder> RoughriderUT: about 2GB
[06:41] <chowder> RoughriderUT: I literally jsut installed it
[06:42] <chowder> It's always best to strip it down, though
[06:42] <chowder> use dpkg --get-selections to see all the packages installed on the system
[06:43] <chowder> or dpkg --get-selections | grep x11 and it will find all packages installed that have "x11" in the name
[06:44] <chowder> and look up the packages at packages.ubuntu.com to decide what you want to keep
[06:44] <chowder> hope that helps ;)
[06:44] <RoughriderUT> Thanks, just having a conversation on another net, and a friend wants a minimal install of linux, thought xubuntu might work for what he needs
[06:44] <chowder> a minimal install is tough
[06:45] <RoughriderUT> Yea, figured that... he might have to go with another small distro.
[06:46] <chowder> he could get an Ubuntu minimal cd image, do a CLI install from the Ubuntu alternate CD, or build his custom *buntu from within an existing Debian based install
[06:46] <chowder> the first 2 are easier but the last one gives you more control
[06:47] <RoughriderUT> yea... he might go for the install minus the desktop...
[06:47] <RoughriderUT> basically he wants ftp, http, and samba
[06:47] <zoredache_> start with ubuntu server, or a 'cli' install using the alternatecd
[06:48] <imjscn> there's a Damn Mini Linux
[06:48] <RoughriderUT> Thought of that also
[06:49] <chowder> I find that the Debian kernel is more stable
[06:49] <chowder> I'm currently working on a custom Ubuntu build with fluxbox
[06:49] <chowder> which is why I want to try fluxbuntu
[06:51] <imjscn> I installed VM, it's as fast as real, great satisfaction
[06:53] <chowder> vm?
[06:53] <imjscn> virtual machine
[06:53] <imjscn> I use vmware
[06:53] <imjscn> xubuntu host, winxp guest
[06:54] <chowder> i'm not fond of virtual machines
[06:54] <imjscn> I'm thinking of install another VM, install the Damn Mini Linux in the VM, just for movies and music
[06:54] <chowder> I used virtualbox
[06:54] <RoughriderUT> Thanks for the info... later
[06:54] <chowder> np
[06:54] <imjscn> how is it working?
[06:55] <chowder> just fine
[06:55] <imjscn> great
[06:55] <chowder> I only use it to test liveCDs
[06:55] <imjscn> I see, I need VM to run my windows softwares
[06:55] <chowder> I made a version of XP that's about 200MB smaller than a full XP install and it works on virtual box
[06:56] <imjscn> I use mini XP too :)
[06:56] <chowder> I have Xubuntu (for now), XP, and my custom *buntu based build
[06:57] <chowder> XP is a necessary evil :(
[06:57] <Xub_HDD_not_dete> Hi everyone... I have a problem with Xubuntu 8.04 at the moment....  trying it from a Live CD, my SATA HDD isn't detected :-(
[06:57] <imjscn> yes, we'll just have to wait Linux become a nomral life style, then, we can get everything ready for Linux
[06:58] <Xub_HDD_not_dete> I've searched the ubuntuforum etc but so far haven't found any info that has helped.
[06:58] <chowder> Xub_HDD_not_dete: post errors via pastebin.com
[06:59] <Xub_HDD_not_dete> chowder: Ok... I'm not sure what you meant by that ...
[06:59] <chowder> Xub_HDD_not_dete: also which CD did you use?
[06:59] <Xub_HDD_not_dete> chowder: Xubuntu 8.04 desktop iso
[06:59] <chowder> pastebin is a site that allows you to post text too large to de displayed on IRC (spambots, etc.)
[07:00] <Xub_HDD_not_dete> chowder: Oh, ok, thanks.... then once I've pasted up there do I post the link to it here?
[07:00] <chowder> you got it :)
[07:00] <Xub_HDD_not_dete> chowder: And how do I find the boot log(s) etc within Xubuntu?
[07:01] <chowder> aah, desktop. Maybe the alternate install CD is different? Also try googling for your model of Hard drive with Ubuntu in quotes like this: my hard drive "ubuntu"
[07:01] <chowder> Xub_HDD_not_dete: I'm not sure of
[07:01] <Xub_HDD_not_dete> chowder: Ok...
[07:03] <jeanne_> hi
[07:04] <jeanne_> I have xubuntu installed. I have only one desktop. before I had 4. does anyone know how to switch that one again ?
[07:08] <chowder> middle click on the desktop
[07:08] <chowder> add new workspace
[07:20] <Xub_HDD_not_dete> Hi everyone.... ﻿how do I find the boot log(s) etc within Xubuntu?  (Thanks)
[07:52] <microwaver> Hello, I'm experiencing a 'jitter' on the right hand side of my laptop screen
[10:32] <rockyrock> hi guys
[10:32] <rockyrock> i have a problem with Virtual Box
[10:33] <rockyrock> i downloaded this version from SUN website and installed it: VirtualBox-1.6.0-Linux_x86.run
[10:34] <rockyrock> when i installed it, it says that it was installed successfully, but when i try to run the program , nothing happens!
[10:34] <rockyrock> it doesn't work
[10:35] <rockyrock> I have xubuntu 8.04
[10:35] <rockyrock> so what is the problem??? is it with the version i have??
[10:35] <rockyrock> should i download the Ubuntu version or the Linux version that i have?
[10:44] <rockyrock> guys, why can't i Past something on the Desktop?????????
[10:45] <rockyrock> the "Paste" icon doens't appear!
[10:46] <arf`> rockyrock: take the ubutu version. A .deb package is always better than anything else :)
[10:47] <arf`> rockyrock: but you probably have to cleanly uninstall the .run before to install the .deb
[10:47] <rockyrock> will "any" .deb package  run for sure????
[10:48] <rockyrock> yes please how can i uninstall it??
[10:48] <arf`> rockyrock: I don't know, it's explained in the virtualbox documentation for sure
[10:49] <arf`> rockyrock: to install the .deb, just run "sudo dpkg -i thepackage.deb"
[10:49] <rockyrock> thnx
[10:50] <arf`> rockyrock: there is 2 ubuntu 8.04 version, the x86 and the AMD64
[10:51] <arf`> rockyrock: take the one corresponding to your processor
[10:52] <rockyrock> if i have a X86 version can i install it on a AMD64 pro?? cuz the 64 bit processor will run the 32bit versions, right?
[10:52] <arf`> yeah
[10:53] <arf`> ok, so the one corresponding to the architecture of your installed xubuntu rather than the architecture of your CPU :)
[10:54] <rockyrock> :]
[10:54] <rockyrock> what about the Paste problem, do u know why it doesn't appear when trying to Paste on the Desktop???
[10:55] <rockyrock> is it something with XFCE?
[10:56] <arf`> perhaps, anyway it works with ctrl-c/ctrl-v
[10:56] <arf`> to copy from/in a console, it's shift+control-c/v
[10:57] <rockyrock> i'm sorry it doesn't work with me!
[10:57] <arf`> you have to install the guest additions in your guest
[10:58] <rockyrock> what are the guest additions!!!!
[10:58] <arf`> if you go in the guest window menu "device" at the bottom there is a "install guest addition"
[10:59] <arf`> it will launch a CD on the guest, and on this CD you can see a .exe to install the additions on a windows system, or a .run to install on a linux system
[11:00] <arf`> rockyrock: probably you better to read the doc of the app you're using, in order to well understand what you're doing, and to take advantage of the power of your apps...
[11:02] <rockyrock> oky thnx
[11:26] <VitaminCPP> Hi, I need some help... How do I set keyboard shortcut for changing layout in Xubuntu?
[11:27] <VitaminCPP> Emm.... Anybody can help me?
[11:44] <VitaminCPP> I need help!
[11:44] <VitaminCPP> I wanna know how to set keyboard shortcut for changing layout
[11:44] <VitaminCPP> 59 people in room and no one can help =\
[12:02] <microwaver> where do adjust shortcuts to applications?
[12:07] <TheSheep> microwaver: which shortcuts?
[12:17] <microwaver> TheSheep, i.e. I want to start the terminal ctrl + alt + x
[12:18] <microwaver> how do I do such a thing, in Gnome there was a easy options, where do i config it (manually!? )
[12:23] <TheSheep> settings->setting manager->keyboard settings
[12:34] <neosix> ﻿Hello! Is there a way to change icon size in xfce-menu on panel?
[12:34] <neosix> ﻿ I tryed with .gtkrc-2.0 but nothing...
[14:34] <White_Lightning> silence...
[14:34] <White_Lightning> lol
[14:54] <Theo_> hello
[14:54] <Theo_> Can I install xubuntu 6.10 ppc on an ibook g3 and then upgrade to 8.04?
[15:13] <charlie-tca> Theo_: you can't do a direct upgrade to 8.04 from 6.10. If your ppc has the newer intel chip, why not install 8.04 directly?
[15:14] <Theo_> i would rather use xubuntu
[15:14] <Theo_> because it ibook  has 500MHz and 384MB RAM
[15:14] <Theo_> i think that xubuntu would have better performance
[15:15] <charlie-tca> Okay, but unless you have the intel chip, you won't be able to install Xubuntu 8.04
[15:15] <Theo_> oh
[15:16] <Theo_> so the only xubuntu available for ppc is 6.10?
[15:16] <charlie-tca> You can install 6.06, which is supported until June 2009
[15:16] <charlie-tca> That is the previous Long Term Support version that was replaced by 8.04
[15:27] <Theo_> if i get ubuntu 8.04 ppc and do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop could that be an alternative?
[15:27] <Theo_> would it be like ubuntu but faster?
[15:29] <charlie-tca> I think that would work, but I don't really know if xubuntu-desktop will install. I do install that way at times on my systems, because
[15:29] <charlie-tca> ubuntu's installer seems faster for some versions.
[15:29] <charlie-tca> I'm looking to see if Xfce supports the ilink now.
[15:30] <charlie-tca> no, I meant ibook
[15:30] <Theo_> what do you think i should do? get and use xubuntu 6.10 ppc? or just use ubuntu 8.04 ppc?
[15:31] <Theo_> i want something that is fast and light because the ibook is quite old and slow
[15:32] <charlie-tca> I would use Xubuntu 6.06 if you really want xubuntu. It is out now in 6.06.01, and is a good version
[15:34] <Theo_> i wanted something fast and light
[15:34] <Theo_> i used xubuntu on a really old hp and it worked great
[15:34] <Theo_> do you think that xubuntu will run much faster than ubuntu?
[15:34] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu 6.06 is fast and light. It is older, but will have updates for another year.
[15:35] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu 6.10 become unsupported as of April of this year.
[15:36] <charlie-tca> It reached the end of it's cycle
[15:36] <Theo_> i meant 6.6 then
[15:37] <Theo_> do you think i should download the alternate or the desktop cd?
[15:37] <charlie-tca> Oh, okay. I still have one system I need to upgrade from 6.06 here. It works great for me,
[15:38] <charlie-tca> download the ppc version from http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/6.06.1/release.1/ or another mirror
[15:38] <Theo_> yeah, i was looking there
[15:38] <charlie-tca> Sorry, I always use the alternate cd myself
[15:38] <charlie-tca> It seems to work better for me
[15:38] <Theo_> hmm
[15:39] <Theo_> its much faster
[15:39] <charlie-tca> Yes, I agree
[15:39] <Theo_> do you think it would be slow on 384mb?
[15:39] <charlie-tca> I only have 256 on the system using it
[15:39] <Theo_> what i mean is, do you think the desktop cd will be slow booting on 384mb
[15:40] <charlie-tca> It's a little slow, but faster than Ubuntu
[15:40] <charlie-tca> I don't know about the desktop cd
[15:40] <Theo_> i will just get both and try both
[15:41] <Theo_> i bought the ibook for $150 on ebay and an 120gb hdd i can'y t wait to try it!
[15:42] <charlie-tca> Sounds like a good deal. Good luck with it, and don't forget, the help wiki and the forums are good for answers, too
[15:43] <Theo_> thanks
[15:43] <charlie-tca> Hope it helped
[15:44] <Theo_> yeah, i understand it better now
[15:44]  * charlie-tca :)
[15:44] <Theo_> when it arrives i will see how it goes with dualbooting mac 10.3
[15:45] <charlie-tca> That should work, too
[15:45] <Theo_> i had to illegally download mac 10.3 because it doesn't come with it!
[15:45] <Theo_> i mean it doesnt come with the cds
[15:45] <Theo_> do you know if backtrack is in ppc? (slax)
[15:46] <charlie-tca> I don't
[15:48] <Theo_> anyway if slax is only intel i can get aircrack-ng for getting into wifi networks
[15:51] <Theo_> bye bye
[15:52] <charlie-tca> bye and good luck
[17:04] <abracadabra> hola
[17:04] <zoredache> !hi | abracadabra
[17:05] <abracadabra> i need help
[17:05] <wrtpeeps> hey guys, anyone know a good dvd burner to burn dvd movies (VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS) folders
[17:05] <zoredache> if you have a question then please ask it.  If somebody knows the answer and is available they will answer
[17:08] <abracadabra> i have xubuntu and win xp, i need to see the win's folders when xubuntu runs, thanks
[17:08] <zoredache> !ntfs | abracadabra
[17:09] <zoredache> !ntfs-3g | abracadabra
[17:09] <abracadabra> ok, thx
[17:09] <zoredache> good luck
[17:09] <zoredache> feel free to ask if some of the steps isn't clear
[17:30] <abracadabra> hey men, thanks
[17:31] <abracadabra> problem solved
[17:42] <abracadabra> need i antivir program in xubuntu?
[17:42] <abracadabra> i think i don't have
[17:42] <zoredache> generally you don't need anti-virus software on linux
[17:43] <abracadabra> what are de non generally surposes?
[17:44] <zoredache> if you are running a file-server that lots of un-trusted windows clients will be using.  If you are running an email server.
[17:44] <pleia2> abracadabra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[17:45] <abracadabra> ok, i'am a home user only
[17:47] <zoredache> if you really think you need one the avscan and clamav packages are what you would want to install
[17:48] <abracadabra> ok, thanks
[17:48] <slow-motion> hi
[18:04] <nikolam> abracadabra, zou can install clamtk and zou can scan windows-related files with it.
[18:07] <abracadabra> thx
[18:07] <abracadabra> i'm reading about it
[18:17] <TheMinister> hi all, i'm having problems with ndiswrapper- my wifi usb dongle is not working with it, and the ndiswrapper -l command does nothing
[18:17] <TheMinister> anybody seen this happen before, and any ideas why?
[18:18] <csh> hello, i use xubuntu 8.04 and everytime i start the graphical part my internet connection dies on me
[18:18] <csh> without gdm starting i can connect on commandline just fine
[18:18] <csh> anyone have any idea what's up?
[18:25] <xubuntu-help> i need some help! my pc keeps BEEPING O_O
[18:25] <xubuntu-help> its really annoying
[18:26] <xubuntu-help> whats the easiest way to stop it under xubuntu??
[18:26] <xubuntu-help> its like beeping every second
[18:27] <csh> at what point does it start beeping?
[18:27] <xubuntu-help> logging in
[18:27] <xubuntu-help> thats when it starts
[18:29] <xubuntu-help> its really annoying
[18:29] <xubuntu-help> and i am in a public room here
[18:29] <xubuntu-help> :(
[18:29] <csh> i am not very familar with xubuntu, i'm sorry
[18:29] <xubuntu-help> is there a standart terminal way to stop it?
[18:30] <csh> you could try killing programms until you find the culprit
[18:31] <edvard> hey
[18:31] <edvard> what are you trying to stop?
[18:33] <xubuntu-help> the beeping
[18:33] <xubuntu-help> i found a way
[18:33] <xubuntu-help> xset b off
[18:33] <xubuntu-help> thanks for your help anyway :)
[18:33] <xubuntu-help> cu guys
[18:34] <edvard> ah the beeping
[18:34] <edvard> isn't that something in the bash profile you can turn off?
[18:34] <edvard> oops he's gone
[18:35] <edvard> setterm -blength 0
[18:35] <edvard> in $HOME/.bash_profile
[21:44] <Freddy2> hi
[21:45] <zoredache> hello
[21:46] <Freddy2> after checking the package list i've seen a lot of xserver-xorg-video-* (ati, i810,..), and when marking any of them for being removed (i only need the mga one) all them pretend to remove also xserver-xorg-video-all
[21:46] <Freddy2> should i really remove this package?
[21:47] <zoredache> I believe you can remove it, yes.  May I ask why you are trying?
[21:47] <zoredache> unless you are trying to fit on a really small drive it seems like it would be a wasted effort
[21:48] <Freddy2> i was simply trying to remove unused packages.. but the drive is medium sized
[21:48] <Freddy2> there's no true space problem there
[21:50] <zoredache> If it was me, then I wouldn't do it.  Removing packages imply to recover drive space doesn't make much sense if you have free space
[21:51] <zoredache> plus, what happens in six months when you swap video cards, or what to put this drive into another computer?
[21:52] <Freddy2> i doubt that.. this is my slave computer, it's managed remotely, and is only dedicated to manage downloads and this kind of stuff
[21:56] <thinkmassive> isn't ﻿xserver-xorg-video-all just a blanket package that automatically includes all the video drivers?
[21:56] <thinkmassive> I don't see why you couldn't just keep the one that you need
[21:57] <zoredache> thinkmassive: it is...   I am just arguing against removing too much of what you think you don't need
[21:57] <zoredache> that and spending lots of time trying to figure out if you can delete things that aren't doing anything other then taking up a small portion of your drive
[21:57] <Freddy2> that's the idea.. i've seen a lot of different xservers, and i only need one.. in fact sometimes i use vnc, so i don't know if even the matrox one is currently needed.. but this one can be left, maybe someday i have to plug the monitor again xD
[21:58] <zoredache> Personally I would spend more time on trying to remove any un-needed services from being loaded
[22:00] <Freddy2> right now my services list looks fine, i think
[22:01] <zoredache> so the question is, if this is just for downloads, could you drop the gui completely and use the cli tools?  You would free up a lot of disk space with no gui
[22:01] <MacGyverNL> The USB mouse on this Xubuntu is still *way* too fast even on the slowest setting.
[22:01] <Freddy2> i can't live without azureus :)
[22:01] <MacGyverNL> How can I change it to go even slower?
[22:02] <Freddy2> still have too many anime series waiting to be downloaded xD
[22:02] <zoredache> bittornado running inside gnu screen has always been enough for me
[22:04] <Freddy2> i could also use text-only programs for web and irc downloads, but i prefer the graphical versions
[22:17] <Yud_Zroc> good evening everyone
[22:17] <Myrtti> nini
[22:18] <Yud_Zroc> i have a dilema does the xubuntu package come with a tool to help configure diaup
[22:20] <zoredache> I know wvdial is installed, but I am not sure what or if there is a gui to control it
[22:20] <Yud_Zroc> gui idc about
[22:20] <Yud_Zroc> i prefer terminal
[22:21] <Yud_Zroc> tyvm for ur help
[22:28] <thinkmassive> Yud_Zroc: what have you tried so far?
[22:28] <thinkmassive> are you using a usb modem that works on the cell network or an old analog modem?
[22:29] <Yud_Zroc> pci
[22:29] <Yud_Zroc> and it is detected in the lpc
[22:29] <thinkmassive> oh ok, have you tried "man wvdial.conf" ?
[22:29] <Yud_Zroc> but i think it may be the config...i prolly didnt do it right
[22:30] <thinkmassive> are you trying to use wvdial?
[22:31] <Yud_Zroc> i am going to....its for my gf....
[22:31] <Yud_Zroc> i was using the network config thingy before and it dont work toowell
[22:31] <thinkmassive> I can't tell you what settings to use for your modem, but I think you can configure it all through wvdial.conf
[22:33] <thinkmassive> this looks like it might help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480717