| yuriy | hmm dist-upgrading isn't quite feasible yet is it | 00:15 |
|---|---|---|
| nixternal | OK, what needs to be done like right now? | 00:43 |
| nixternal | gimme a list | 00:43 |
| nixternal | it is way to hot and humid to ride tonight, so I shall stay in, do laundry and hack on Kubuntu and KDE stuff | 00:43 |
| vorian | nixternal: do we really want dfsg for ktorrent? | 00:44 |
| vorian | and hello :) | 00:44 |
| nixternal | yes, ktorrent should be dfsg, cuz if it isn't, then it means it isn't free | 00:44 |
| vorian | roger | 00:45 |
| nixternal | unless you want to put it in multiverse and have me stop using it :) | 00:46 |
| vorian | haha | 00:46 |
| vorian | i don't know about that ... | 00:46 |
| nixternal | and don't plan on shipping it on our isos | 00:46 |
| vorian | really? | 00:47 |
| vorian | oh | 00:47 |
| nixternal | ya, we don't ship multiverse stuff in our isos | 00:47 |
| * vorian needs to read more closely | 00:47 | |
| nixternal | only main, the free stuff, except for our bogus kernel :P | 00:47 |
| vorian | right, i thought you typed "we won't be shipping it on our isos" | 00:47 |
| nixternal | or not our kernel, but the restricted-modules I should say | 00:47 |
| vorian | my mistake | 00:47 |
| vorian | werd | 00:47 |
| === papabean_ is now known as papabean | ||
| yuriy | nixternal: you could fix replaces and such in intrepid packages to make upgrades possible :D | 01:43 |
| vorian | yuriy: is there a bug-tag for those? | 01:47 |
| * vorian looks | 01:47 | |
| yuriy | vorian: I'm just referring to my current upgrading attempt | 01:49 |
| yuriy | though a lot of problems were solved by removing all hardy kde4 packages that I missed | 01:50 |
| vorian | the kdebase-runtime package | 01:50 |
| vorian | ah, i see | 01:50 |
| yuriy | and there are a lot of dependency problems with Xorg | 01:50 |
| vorian | yeah | 01:50 |
| JontheEchidna | Be back tomorrow | 03:03 |
| maltedik | oh man. i finally find out why my kopete didnt compile with jabber-support | 04:00 |
| maltedik | i can die now (after adding the info to the kde techbase ;)) | 04:01 |
| yuriy | intrepid and my laptop aren't very good friends | 05:14 |
| DaskReecH | I'm strangely un tempted by intrepid this cycle | 05:18 |
| * yuriy watches intrepid/kde 4.1 restore his ancient kde3 session | 05:46 | |
| yuriy | now if only xserver-xorg-input-mouse was installed | 05:47 |
| DaskReecH | Ha ha that's sweet | 05:47 |
| yuriy | or -kbd for that matter | 05:47 |
| === kewark is now known as krawek | ||
| apachelogger | mouz: yakuake > stjerm | 07:48 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: the red is too red | 07:49 |
| apachelogger | compile something with cmake and you'll almost get blinded by the redness of red | 07:49 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: the read is perfect as it shows new queries here ;-) | 07:49 |
| Nightrose | -a | 07:49 |
| * apachelogger honelsty doesn'ty like it | 07:50 | |
| apachelogger | the green is also a bit too bright | 07:50 |
| apachelogger | but the red can kill | 07:50 |
| Nightrose | hehe | 07:50 |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 09:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 09:07 |
| mouz | apachelogger: does that mean you do not want to review my packaging of stjerm? | 09:19 |
| apachelogger | mouz: it has lower priority | 09:25 |
| apachelogger | mouz: revued | 12:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 13:02 |
| Riddell | hi Tonio_ | 13:04 |
| * smarter waves | 13:05 | |
| smarter | could someone please upload my updated kde4-style-bespin package? http://smarter.free.fr/pkg/bespin/ | 13:06 |
| smarter | I was wondering if I should rename it to kde-style-bespin | 13:07 |
| gnomefreak | everything else is being moved from kde4 to kde including the profiles and friends | 13:09 |
| Riddell | smarter: kde 3 widget styles are mostly still installable I think, so probably best to keep them as kde- and kde 4 ones as kde4- for now | 13:09 |
| smarter | ok | 13:09 |
| smarter | (also available at: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/bespin/ubuntu) | 13:09 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i know now the problem, in hardy qt4.4 is in the backports of hardy | 13:25 |
| Xand3r | if i build on a build server are there the backports included? | 13:26 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i set in the build-depends libqt4-dev (>=4.4) | 13:28 |
| Xand3r | s that declared right? | 13:28 |
| Xand3r | smarter: maybe you could help me? | 13:32 |
| Xand3r | ScottK: hi, the only problem there is ,screenie-qt depends on libqt4-dev from qt4.4 | 13:35 |
| Xand3r | so it needs the backport qt | 13:35 |
| Xand3r | no one here -.- | 13:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hey ;) | 13:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what about the plan to write a xrandr gui ? | 13:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: a collegue of mine would eventually be interested | 13:48 |
| Riddell | mostly I was hoping the one in KDE would fix itself for 4.1 | 13:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the point is that the krandrtray and randr kpart are still being worked on by kde guys... | 13:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay so you would wait for 4.1 and then decide what to do ? | 13:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: in any case I might have a resource available in case we have to code something | 13:49 |
| Riddell | well, it would be nice to know what the chances are of it working | 13:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and on the other hand, I'm going for several contrib days tomorrow | 13:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: lot of work recently, but for all the week, I'll be there for packaging stuff | 13:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well the kcm module guy is currently a nightmare :) | 13:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: so as sad a few days ago, this time I'm back :) tomorrow morning 9 am... | 13:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll need to make a point on the intrepid status to write a hudge todo for the next weeks | 13:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: also, will you be there at the oscon ? | 13:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I will | 13:52 |
| Riddell | nope | 13:52 |
| Xand3r | i need some help, i whant to include hardy backport in my pbuilder-dist, so i added the line in ~/pbuilder/etc/hardy/apt.conf/sources.list | 13:56 |
| Xand3r | but if i use the command pbuilder-dist hardy update , the new line is ignored, what i have done wrong? | 13:57 |
| * Riddell has never got that to work | 13:58 | |
| smarter | Xand3r: I think you have to edit /etc/pbuilderrc | 13:58 |
| Hobbsee | Xand3r: you need to use --override-config | 13:59 |
| Hobbsee | when running your udpate, after config changes. | 13:59 |
| Xand3r | Hobbsee: so i edit the source.list in that dir above nd than i run "pbuilder-dist hardy update --override-config"? | 14:01 |
| Hobbsee | Xand3r: yes, assuming that it's actually using those configuration files | 14:02 |
| Xand3r | cool now it runs thx | 14:03 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: it's not that hard, really. | 14:04 |
| Riddell | I've not tried hard | 14:04 |
| Hobbsee | huh? | 14:05 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: if a package need a nother package from the backports, does that makes problems? | 14:06 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: problems for what? | 14:07 |
| Xand3r | for the building | 14:07 |
| Hobbsee | Xand3r: no, it'll pull it from the repository | 14:08 |
| Xand3r | i want to get screenie-qt backported, it needs the libqt4-dev, but the 4.4 from the backport | 14:09 |
| Riddell | qt 4.4 is in backports, so there's no problem | 14:12 |
| Riddell | why does it need libqt4-dev anyway? | 14:12 |
| Xand3r | hmm | 14:14 |
| Xand3r | the intrepid package needed it | 14:15 |
| nixternal | mornin' | 14:50 |
| * nixternal notes to Riddell that he is still awaiting the "how-to" email :) | 14:50 | |
| nixternal | are there any current show stoppers? | 14:50 |
| yuriy | morning! | 15:01 |
| * yuriy hugs txwikinger and JontheEchidna | 15:01 | |
| JontheEchidna | Good morning | 15:02 |
| txwikinger | hi yuriy | 15:02 |
| yuriy | yay X actually installs now | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | hooray | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | *upgrades* | 15:16 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, I'll be back in half an hour | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | bug 235171 | 15:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 235171 in kdegames "solitaire: spider is too hard!!!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/235171 | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | what to do with that? | 15:36 |
| JontheEchidna | Confucious say, noobs must die | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: good point | 15:41 |
| JontheEchidna | :p | 15:41 |
| JontheEchidna | I doubt anyone would do anything about it anyway | 15:42 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, what about bug 38887 | 15:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 38887 in gdm "Login managers should list "Ubuntu"/"Kubuntu" as options instead of "GNOME"/"KDE"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38887 | 15:42 |
| JontheEchidna | Because I don't think they should | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | well | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | no, they shouldn't | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | that is like dont use sdofi use swo | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | it's as likely that someone doesn't know what the difference between Kubuntu/Ubuntu | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, it looks like somebody rejected it but forgot to actually close it. | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: give it a final kick then ;-) | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what do you think about bug 89348 | 15:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 89348 in kdegames "some installed games have bad command string" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89348 | 15:51 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, shouldn't he file separate bugs for each package that does that, or at the least assign that bug to the different packages that still have the problem? | 15:53 |
| JontheEchidna | It doesn't seem to be a KDE problem either way. | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | well | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | it effects all kdegames | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | though I think it is pretty won't fix | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | usr/games is in the default PATH | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | if someone changes it, it's really his own fault | 15:54 |
| JontheEchidna | Yeah, he should put usr/games in his path if he wants it to work | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | otherwise I could just remove usr/bin and say I want all other desktop files with absolute path | 15:55 |
| JontheEchidna | True | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | + | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | quoting the spec: | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | Exec Program to execute, possibly with arguments. | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | not path to an executable | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | ;-) | 15:55 |
| JontheEchidna | hehe | 15:55 |
| JontheEchidna | By default Dolphin has an entry for network:/ on the sidebar, right? | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | yes | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | Ok, I removed some entries so I wasn't sure | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: shouldn't kdewebdev-kde4 be moved to kdewebdev? | 16:00 |
| JontheEchidna | So about bug 63287, should I mark it fixed since currently Intrepid's kdm theme uses normal button widgets, or should we wait to see what sort of kdm theme intrepid will get? | 16:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 63287 in kdebase "Login screen menu button doesn't look like a menu button" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63287 | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | oha | 16:11 |
| apachelogger | schweet | 16:11 |
| apachelogger | vorian: congrats! | 16:11 |
| * apachelogger hands everyone a glass of beer | 16:11 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: wouldn't say so | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | theming is coming back | 16:13 |
| JontheEchidna | So then we should wait until we get a theme? | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | I'd say so | 16:16 |
| JontheEchidna | Btw, is Kubuntu going to place the trashcan plasmoid in the panel by default for Intrepid? | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | in case we are able to | 16:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'm unsure about kdewebdev, the kde4 version doesn't include quanta yet which is the main application | 17:05 |
| txwikinger | what's wrong with lp? | 17:05 |
| Riddell | wrong shade of green? | 17:06 |
| Riddell | dunno, I'd need a clue | 17:06 |
| txwikinger | I can't login anymore | 17:06 |
| Riddell | works for me | 17:08 |
| txwikinger | well. I have sent me the reset password thingy.. maybe that works | 17:09 |
| yuriy | hmm.. can't install nvidia, can't boot .26 kernel, can't use an external monitor with nv, and nv+krfb+vncviewer is really really slow | 17:11 |
| yuriy | with my broken backlight, I think that leaves me with ssh -X for testing | 17:21 |
| Riddell | ScottK: where's your guidance stuff? | 17:43 |
| Czessi__ | Riddell: you received my email from sunday? | 17:44 |
| Riddell | Czessi__: about sending the poster stand? | 17:45 |
| Czessi__ | yes | 17:46 |
| Riddell | Czessi__: that's the right address, I'll pick it up there for lugradio live then take it to akademy | 17:46 |
| Czessi__ | Riddell: ok, thanks. i'll try to send it tomorrow | 17:47 |
| Xand3r | hey! | 17:47 |
| Riddell | ScottK: bug 245339? Surely guidance-power-manager now needs to depend on guidance-backends | 17:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 245339 in guidance-power-manager "[intrepid] package guidance-power-manager 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245339 | 17:48 |
| Riddell | hi Xand3r, I uploaded kwin-style-crystal | 17:49 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: thx a lot | 17:49 |
| * Riddell out | 17:51 | |
| jjesse | afternoon | 18:03 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: wanna package digikam-kde4? | 18:35 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: it would be much or? | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | digikam is about the same amoutn of work as amarok I guess | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | and it's using the same release script :D | 18:36 |
| * apachelogger is pretty proud | 18:36 | |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: that says nothin to me | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: well, take a look at it | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | you can mostly root your work in the kde3 package | 18:37 |
| Xand3r | ah | 18:37 |
| Xand3r | ok i will have a look at it | 18:37 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: where is the bug i have to assingn? | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: create one | 18:39 |
| Xand3r | ok | 18:41 |
| txwikinger | b0rked KDE :D | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | omg | 18:46 |
| apachelogger | how could you | 18:47 |
| txwikinger | why does konq lose intermittently the ability to store cookies? | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | works for me | 18:47 |
| txwikinger | I had to re-login | 18:47 |
| txwikinger | Now it works again too | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | maybe kded crashed | 18:47 |
| txwikinger | yeah maybe | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | I think the cookiejar is running as kded module | 18:47 |
| txwikinger | shouldn't use this old KDE3 stuff :D | 18:47 |
| txwikinger | yes it is | 18:48 |
| txwikinger | at least in KDE3 | 18:48 |
| txwikinger | not sure about KDE4 | 18:48 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: is libkipi already build? | 18:52 |
| apachelogger | don't think so | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | oh actually | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | kipi is part of kdegraphics nowadays | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1 | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+package/libkipi-dev | 18:53 |
| Xand3r | but i dont have to build it ^^ | 18:54 |
| apachelogger | righty right | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | smarter: btw, kvpm revued | 18:57 |
| Xand3r | omg i download the files right now, it seams to be the wrong, but i see how much files theire are in, with my 6 kb/s upload i will have fun | 18:57 |
| smarter | apachelogger: thanks | 18:57 |
| smarter | apachelogger: what's the X-KDE-SubstituteUID=true for? | 18:57 |
| Xand3r | the pictures take much place | 18:57 |
| apachelogger | smarter: kdesu | 18:58 |
| smarter | ok | 18:58 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i am checking out svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/graphics/digikam | 19:01 |
| Xand3r | is that the right digikam version? | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | no | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: digikam.org | 19:01 |
| Xand3r | -.- | 19:02 |
| Xand3r | it is from the hp | 19:02 |
| Xand3r | i will download a tar | 19:02 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: version 0.10 right? | 19:04 |
| apachelogger | yes | 19:04 |
| Xand3r | ok have i to name the package digikam-kde4? | 19:04 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: ^ | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: aye | 19:06 |
| Xand3r | ok | 19:06 |
| dAskreeCh | is 0.10 stable? | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | dAskreeCh: no | 19:07 |
| dAskreeCh | Expected to be stable by 10 ? | 19:10 |
| yuriy | really? so intrepid will still have the KDE3 version? | 19:10 |
| txwikinger | yuriy: really? | 19:11 |
| txwikinger | I thought only the the apps that will not be ported will be available in the KDE3 form under KDE4 | 19:12 |
| yuriy | txwikinger: talking about digikam. i'm surprised that apachelogger said 0.10 should be digikam-kde4 | 19:12 |
| dAskreeCh | It should | 19:12 |
| apachelogger | yuriy: it is alpha | 19:12 |
| yuriy | definitely won't be stable or RC by october? | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | unlike ubuntu | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | I don't rely on other's schedules | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | though, we could ship digikam beta and then release 8.10.1 once digikam 0.10 final is out :P | 19:14 |
| dAskreeCh | I thought .1 were a LTS thing | 19:14 |
| apachelogger | so? KDE 4.1 is stable enough to go LTS and we still are one LTS release behind ;-) | 19:15 |
| dAskreeCh | apachelogger: That's a good point :) | 19:16 |
| dAskreeCh | Just need to convince canonical to keep the repos open a few months longer than normal :) | 19:17 |
| txwikinger | KDE4 will not be stable enough for LTS for another year | 19:17 |
| apachelogger | I guess then we could also ship some alpha/beta of Amarok which would be make Nightrose happy :D | 19:17 |
| dAskreeCh | * happy | 19:17 |
| Nightrose | haha | 19:17 |
| Nightrose | not really | 19:17 |
| Nightrose | well | 19:17 |
| Nightrose | maybe | 19:17 |
| Nightrose | :P | 19:17 |
| Nightrose | <- easy to make her happy | 19:18 |
| txwikinger | well.. you have another 2 weeks to go from alpha/beta to release | 19:18 |
| txwikinger | Should be enough since you guys have nothing else to do :p | 19:18 |
| * Nightrose kicks txwikinger | 19:18 | |
| apachelogger | honey | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | you have unused workforce | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | that is waste of developer's lifetime IMO | 19:19 |
| txwikinger | ah thank you... my back is stiff and needs that | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | hm | 19:19 |
| dAskreeCh | Nightrose: I was going to say it's easy to make you happy but decided to hold my tongue umm fingers. | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | when was 3.5.9 released? | 19:19 |
| Nightrose | dAskreeCh: ;-) | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | sick | 19:19 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: honey I know - just that all of the folks i had to do work suddenly went MIA | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | February 19th, 2008 (The INTERNET) | 19:20 |
| Nightrose | txwikinger: you're welcome ;-) | 19:20 |
| txwikinger | The INTERNET is no authority to quote from | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: MIAmi? | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: KDE e.V. is | 19:20 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: :P maybe | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | I would certainly go to MIAmi | 19:20 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: well you did not say that | 19:20 |
| txwikinger | MIAmi.. around this time? | 19:21 |
| txwikinger | No thank you | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: well | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | look at it | 19:21 |
| txwikinger | Gators and mosquitos | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | where did I indicate a quote? | 19:21 |
| txwikinger | <apachelogger> February 19th, 2008 (The INTERNET) | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | that was a random alignment of chars and digits | 19:21 |
| Nightrose | oO | 19:21 |
| txwikinger | well.. next time just give the Gödelnummer | 19:21 |
| txwikinger | that will save bandwidth | 19:21 |
| txwikinger | Gödelnumber eveb | 19:22 |
| txwikinger | even | 19:22 |
| txwikinger | somehow I don't get to my EU - Anti-competition law stuff today | 19:22 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: that leaves more time for beer | 19:23 |
| apachelogger | where is vorian anyway | 19:23 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: do i need any stuff from digikam-kde3? | 19:23 |
| * apachelogger suspects he is already drunk and lying somewhere under some table in some channel starting with ubu or kubu | 19:24 | |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: the descriptions? | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | some deps? | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | the binary package deps? | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | the copyright? | 19:24 |
| txwikinger | beer? You want to kill me with engl. beer? | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | and stUff and stuff | 19:24 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: you don't get imported beer on the island? | 19:24 |
| txwikinger | yes .. corona | 19:25 |
| apachelogger | <3 corona | 19:25 |
| apachelogger | well | 19:25 |
| apachelogger | sometimes | 19:25 |
| apachelogger | <3 captain ;-) | 19:25 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: -.- ok | 19:25 |
| txwikinger | Viva Mejico! | 19:25 |
| apachelogger | hm | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | by times I find bug reports very strange | 19:28 |
| JontheEchidna | ^^ | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | bug 48146 | 19:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 48146 in kdegraphics "Poor font rendering in kpdf" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48146 | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | 2nd comment has some examples | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | and IMO the kpdf rendering looks more readable than the xpdf one | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | in fact I get dizzy from the latter | 19:29 |
| JontheEchidna | I must agree | 19:29 |
| txwikinger | KDE3 does not work.. KDE4 does not work... what is this? | 19:30 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: you b0rked it all | 19:30 |
| apachelogger | time for reinstall | 19:30 |
| txwikinger | yes.... I am good in that | 19:30 |
| txwikinger | no .. already fixed it | 19:30 |
| dAskreeCh | twm ftw! | 19:31 |
| txwikinger | need to switch desktops effect on and off that I have a decorator running | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you know, I think what they call poor font rendering is just a different font ;-) | 19:31 |
| JontheEchidna | Heh | 19:31 |
| yuriy | apachelogger: looks to me like it's using a different font | 19:31 |
| yuriy | I wouldn't really say one is more readable than the other | 19:31 |
| apachelogger | xpdf - look at the first 2 words for 3 seconds | 19:32 |
| apachelogger | if you don't feel dizzy then you must be a pirate or something... at least used to boats | 19:32 |
| yuriy | I can very slightly see what you mean | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | :D | 19:33 |
| yuriy | I say [ask him to] check in okular | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | or just claim it works in okular | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | and not mention that I don't see the problem in the screenshot :P | 19:34 |
| JontheEchidna | Didn't ktip get offed for KDE4? | 19:34 |
| dAskreeCh | I think by default | 19:34 |
| JontheEchidna | I seem to remember a gleefully written entry in commit-digest about it | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | hm | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | <-- got an idea | 19:35 |
| dAskreeCh | By Riddell as I recall | 19:35 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, I think it was Riddell | 19:35 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: can you please look at http://www.proxc.com/kpdf/kubuntu6.10-kpdf.png http://www.proxc.com/kpdf/kubuntu6.10-xpdf.png http://www.proxc.com/kpdf/fc6-kpdf.png and tell me whether you think the rendering in the kubuntu kpdf one is worse than in the others | 19:35 |
| * JontheEchidna looks in adept for ktip-kde4 | 19:36 | |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: k | 19:36 |
| JontheEchidna | Yes! KTip really is dead! :o | 19:36 |
| JontheEchidna | Too bad this bug isn't KTip's fault... | 19:37 |
| JontheEchidna | Else I could close it :( | 19:37 |
| jussi01 | JontheEchidna: what is / was ktip? | 19:37 |
| JontheEchidna | At startup you'd get a tip of the day thing | 19:37 |
| JontheEchidna | Nobody used it and it was annoying | 19:37 |
| jussi01 | oh... | 19:37 |
| jussi01 | yeah | 19:37 |
| dAskreeCh | AFAIR when you start up a program and it says Did you Know?? | 19:37 |
| jussi01 | I just wish I knoew how to change those litle pop ups from the tray | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | that question is stupid in itself IMHO | 19:38 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | if I know it - why would I want to read it | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | if I don't know it - why would I want to be confronted with my stupidity in not knowing it | 19:38 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: hmmmm it is different - but worse.... not really IMHO | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | ok | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | merci beaucoup Nightrose | 19:39 |
| Nightrose | :) | 19:39 |
| dAskreeCh | apachelogger: Ignorance is not really stupidity | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | well, it gives some kind of uncool feeling | 19:40 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: can i use the old copyright? cause it maybe changed some things | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: you can use the old one and update it ;-) | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | but I think doing it from scratch is faster | 19:41 |
| Xand3r | so make a totaly new on? | 19:41 |
| dAskreeCh | apachelogger: I think the largest problem was that it was maintained somewhat like fortune with random people putting in info | 19:42 |
| Xand3r | ok thx apachelogger | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | dAskreeCh: what is the problem with random people? | 19:43 |
| dAskreeCh | apachelogger: one app would have the same "tip" written in 3 different ways. Some tips were things like Smile and the world Smiles with you. And most of all none of them had anythin to do with KDE4 | 19:45 |
| yuriy | JontheEchidna: you're not doing 5-a-day? | 19:45 |
| JontheEchidna | nope | 19:45 |
| apachelogger | dAskreeCh: that can happen with one guy as well | 19:46 |
| dAskreeCh | apachelogger: Except the 3 different ways one | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | dAskreeCh: of course | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | imagine | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | you are doing these tips in a 2 years time frame | 19:47 |
| txwikinger | dAskreeCh: well.. we had a new software on an exhibition once and an error message that was quite X-rated popped up in the middle of a demo for a customer | 19:47 |
| apachelogger | let's say ever 6 months you add a bunch | 19:47 |
| apachelogger | there is no way you will remember all the added tips after 2 years | 19:47 |
| txwikinger | The developer that checked that stuff in had a lot of explaining to do | 19:47 |
| dAskreeCh | txwikinger: I'll assume this wasn't a customer who was peddling xrated stuff? | 19:48 |
| txwikinger | No.. a customer that was supposed to give us a very large contract | 19:49 |
| smarter | apachelogger: new upload of kvpm at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kvpm ;) | 19:49 |
| txwikinger | and a customer that was not amused about it | 19:49 |
| dAskreeCh | apachelogger: I think the developer would clean up things from KDE2 at least | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | I can't remember stuff from KDE2 | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | that said, KDE 3 was much like KDE 2 in the beginning :P | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | and not anything like KDE 3.5 | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | smarter: did you testbuild with the manpage? | 19:51 |
| smarter | apachelogger: yep | 19:51 |
| * apachelogger advocates | 19:51 | |
| smarter | \o/ | 19:51 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: there are so much copyright holders of so much files -.- | 20:01 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: did you ever look at kdelibs/kdebase ;-) | 20:02 |
| Xand3r | never | 20:02 |
| Xand3r | i i dont want to | 20:02 |
| Xand3r | ^^ | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: come on :P | 20:04 |
| * apachelogger felt quite funny when seeing that | 20:04 | |
| Xand3r | ^^ | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | woah | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | bug 210171 kicks a** | 20:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 210171 in kdegraphics "[hardy] Memory leak in kpdf" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210171 | 20:05 |
| Xand3r | i watch tv may be in some minutes i am strong enough for the copyright | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | does anyone want to fix bug 159495 | 20:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 159495 in kdegraphics "kdvi doesn't want to play with tetex anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159495 | 20:13 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Does guidance-power-manager actually use xf86misc? AFAIK that's for setting display properties. | 20:17 |
| Riddell | ScottK: yes, for idle time detection | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Ouch. | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Urgh. | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Can we teach it a different way to to that? | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Then yes, I guess it does need to depend on guidance-backends. | 20:19 |
| ScottK | So much for getting rid of that. | 20:19 |
| Riddell | ScottK: well if guidance-backends goes away it's easy enough to remove your patch and bring xf86misc back to g-power-manager | 20:19 |
| ScottK | True. | 20:20 |
| yuriy | is there a kwin-style-crystal for KDE4? | 20:27 |
| Riddell | yep | 20:28 |
| Riddell | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kwin-style-crystal | 20:28 |
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| yuriy | Xand3r was working on that? Xand3r: can you check for bug 107595 with the new package? | 20:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 107595 in kdebase "Windows icons (icon on titlebar) get resized on maximizing/restoring windows on Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107595 | 20:31 |
| apachelogger | yuriy: I can't reproduce that one | 20:35 |
| vorian | wooo hoo! | 20:45 |
| vorian | thanks guys ^.^ | 20:45 |
| Riddell | vorian: hmm? | 20:47 |
| vorian | Riddell: I'm a motu now | 20:47 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: this is the copyright part http://paste.ubuntu.com/26006/ | 20:48 |
| yuriy | congrats vorian | 20:48 |
| vorian | danke | 20:48 |
| Riddell | vorian: oh fooey, I've been meaning to comment on that | 20:48 |
| Xand3r | and i cant see an end | 20:48 |
| vorian | Riddell: no worries :) | 20:48 |
| vorian | it all happened much faster than I thought it would | 20:48 |
| apachelogger | still too slow IMO ;-) | 20:48 |
| apachelogger | ah well | 20:49 |
| vorian | lol | 20:49 |
| apachelogger | vorian: get working http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=stjerm ;-) | 20:49 |
| vorian | roger | 20:49 |
| vorian | oh, I need the button | 20:49 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: there have to be another way or? | 20:49 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: in my humble opinion debian/copyright should be a summary of hte major copyright holders, it doesn't need to list every file and it's authors | 20:49 |
| Xand3r | ah ok | 20:50 |
| * apachelogger agrees with Riddell | 20:50 | |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: you only have a couple of copyright holders anyway | 20:50 |
| Riddell | as an archive admin I'm more interested in the licence(s) | 20:51 |
| Nightrose | congratulations vorian :) | 20:51 |
| * Nightrose hands vorian a cookie | 20:51 | |
| vorian | :) | 20:51 |
| vorian | thanks :) | 20:51 |
| Riddell | stdin: did you talk to upstream about that kdepim cmake issue? | 20:52 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: the licences were no prob | 20:52 |
| apachelogger | hm | 20:54 |
| apachelogger | stdin: did you create a list of motu-like contriubtions yet? :P | 20:54 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: so just list Gilles and the two other major copyright holders and sorted | 20:54 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: hmm i will see | 20:55 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I added a comment to bug 236996 | 20:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 236996 in hardy-backports "PyQt 4.4.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236996 | 20:57 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. Looking. | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | vorian: btw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Kubuntu | 21:00 |
| vorian | apachelogger: roger | 21:00 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: there are more than 2 other | 21:03 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: main copyright holders he meant | 21:04 |
| vorian | hmm | 21:05 |
| vorian | manpage error | 21:05 |
| vorian | apachelogger: the package looks good | 21:10 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i guess it is Renchi Raju, Gilles Caulier, Marcel Wiesweg | 21:11 |
| Xand3r | but i am not sure | 21:11 |
| apachelogger | schweet | 21:11 |
| vorian | there was a small issue with the upstream manpage | 21:11 |
| apachelogger | vorian: small == ? | 21:11 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: sounds good to me | 21:11 |
| vorian | I: stjerm: hyphen-used-as-minus-sign usr/share/man/man8/stjerm.8.gz:109 | 21:11 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: kk | 21:12 |
| vorian | did not excape a hyphen correctly | 21:12 |
| vorian | escape* | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | vorian: easy enough to patch it yourself I guess ;-) | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | vorian: leave a note about that and advocate | 21:13 |
| vorian | got it | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | cool | 21:13 |
| vorian | done! | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | vorian: up to uploading then :) | 21:13 |
| vorian | erm | 21:14 |
| vorian | ok | 21:14 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:14 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: upstream autors are the same like the copyright holders? | 21:14 |
| apachelogger | vorian: ultimately you dch -a a changelog entry and note that you introduced that fix | 21:14 |
| apachelogger | then just debuild -S -sa and dput ubuntu DSCFILE | 21:15 |
| vorian | gotcha | 21:15 |
| * apachelogger also notes that without change it would be - debuild -S -sa -k"YourKeyName" :) | 21:15 | |
| vorian | ja, i have that all set in devscripts | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | aye | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: well, if there is an AUTHORS file you would use the people listed there | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | otherwise just use the copyright holders | 21:16 |
| Xand3r | oh kk | 21:16 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: all or only the mainß | 21:18 |
| vorian | ah, i see it now | 21:18 |
| vorian | i couldn't see the illegal hyphens | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: hm? | 21:19 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: the hole AUTHORS file http://paste.ubuntu.com/26018/ | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | vorian: archived the revu upload | 21:20 |
| apachelogger | smarter: you could give vorian a cookie and ask him for a revu of kvpm later on ;-) | 21:20 |
| vorian | lol | 21:21 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: just reuse the copyright holders | 21:21 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: I am not sure this file is 100% up-to-date | 21:21 |
| Xand3r | ok | 21:21 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: Copyright http://paste.ubuntu.com/26024/ ; changelog http://paste.ubuntu.com/26025/ ; control http://paste.ubuntu.com/26026/ | 21:36 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: please review the pastes cause my upload is so weak it would take hours with the changes on revu | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: you can do debuild -S ... then it would only upload the diff and dsc | 21:38 |
| apachelogger | in theory at least ;-) | 21:38 |
| Xand3r | hmm | 21:38 |
| Xand3r | i dont trust in the theory | 21:39 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: have you found something? | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: please make the description reflect it is for KDE 4 | 21:42 |
| Xand3r | hmm ok | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: It was downloaded from http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/digikam/digikam-0.10.0-beta1.tar.bz2 | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | no complete paths! | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: digikam.org or something | 21:43 |
| Xand3r | hmm ok | 21:43 |
| Xand3r | done both | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | well | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | upload | 21:45 |
| Xand3r | first of all i will build it here and look at the logs | 21:45 |
| Xand3r | upload would take hours | 21:45 |
| Xand3r | it sems you dont belief me, i realy have an 6kb/s upload | 21:47 |
| dAskreeCh | apachelogger: They are discussing compiling it on #digikam now if you want to sit in | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: ^ | 21:50 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: who's the amarok dude(s) at last.fm? | 21:51 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: mxcl | 21:51 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: muesli and mxcl | 21:51 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: something i going wrong here, pbuilder compiles it with the libkipi but it normaly would need the dev | 22:10 |
| Xand3r | but with dev i get an error | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | which error | 22:11 |
| Xand3r | with the dev files it could not find libkipi | 22:12 |
| Xand3r | maybeit was not installed | 22:12 |
| Xand3r | i have now 38% without any error massage | 22:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I uploaded your kdebase-workspace diff, sorry for the delay, maybe we should look at putting a kde4.mk in cdbs since that change might be needed everywhere else too | 22:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, workspace should be the only one, but I really think we should move kde4.mk to cdbs | 22:15 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'm just mindful it's diverging from debian (but then it is anyway) and also that cdbs has broken whenever I've touched it | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: having own cdbs copies for every package is just awful for maintaining IMHO | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | we probably should also remove DEB_DH_INSTALL_SOURCEDIR = debian/tmp | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | it makes installing stuff from debian/ impossible | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | through debian/install that is of course :) | 22:19 |
| Riddell | you can use .. | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | hm | 22:21 |
| * apachelogger tries | 22:21 | |
| Riddell | toma: adding GFDL to mailody | 22:22 |
| dAskreeCh | GFDL? | 22:23 |
| toma | o, do i get rich now? | 22:23 |
| Riddell | dAskreeCh: docs licence | 22:23 |
| Riddell | toma: seems unlikely | 22:23 |
| toma | Riddell: ok, do you mean in kubuntu or upstream? | 22:24 |
| Riddell | toma: upstream | 22:24 |
| toma | Riddell: okido! | 22:24 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: are you still working on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mailody-kde4 ? | 22:24 |
| dAskreeCh | ah right | 22:25 |
| Xand3r | emm ok i will do the changes | 22:26 |
| Xand3r | sorry | 22:26 |
| apachelogger | hm | 22:26 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why .. in debian/install didn't work earlier | 22:26 | |
| apachelogger | ah well | 22:26 |
| * apachelogger hands Riddell a cookie | 22:27 | |
| Riddell | Xand3r: you can ignore the lack of GFDL, I just added it upstream | 22:27 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: thx | 22:28 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: do i select akonadi-kde? | 22:30 |
| apachelogger | hm | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: akonadi-kde, akonadi-server | 22:32 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why -kde doesn't depend -server | 22:32 | |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: thx | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | actually | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | toma: does mailody require the akonadi stuff from kdepim? | 22:33 |
| toma | apachelogger: hmm, the user would like the resources at runtime, not needed at build time | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | ok | 22:34 |
| toma | apachelogger: but i think kdepimlibs/akonadi should pull them in | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | toma: the kdepimlibs package doesn't | 22:36 |
| * apachelogger adds an investigation to his todo | 22:36 | |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: where i can get the right synopsis? | 22:36 |
| toma | apachelogger: yeah, not sure what would be best to do here | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: mailody --help | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | toma: trial and error ;-) | 22:37 |
| toma | no, i mean package wise | 22:37 |
| Xand3r | ok for it i have to install it | 22:37 |
| Xand3r | but i have no intrepid | 22:37 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: so what is to do? | 22:38 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26045/ | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: oh, btw, about the question you had earlier | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | sudo pbuilder login --save-after login | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | then you can edit the /etc/apt/sources.list | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | then run apt-get update | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | upon exit this will be your new pbuilder | 22:41 |
| Xand3r | ah another way | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | and to install software | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | just run sudo pbuilder login | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | it will tell you the path your chroot is extracted to | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | copy the deb to tmp/ or something | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | and then install it in the pbuilder | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | toma: I'll try to find out tomorrow | 22:42 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: how can i build such a gigant man with docbook? | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: manually | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | or you lazy and ask me to do it with motu magic ;-) | 22:44 |
| Xand3r | moto magic | 22:45 |
| Xand3r | is good | 22:45 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: so show me | 22:45 |
| vorian | na, Xand3r should do it old school | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | vorian: do you really want him to do that? | 22:46 |
| vorian | well, i suppose not | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | :D | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: well, you can't do it, because you don't have it installed ;-) | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26049/ | 22:47 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: thx alot | 22:47 |
| * apachelogger is wondering whether Xand3r is wondering why apachelogger was that fast :P | 22:48 | |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: no, you are the master, you have to be so fast | 22:50 |
| apachelogger | hm, that sounds like an almost reasonable explanaition ;-) | 22:51 |
| Xand3r | ^^ | 22:52 |
| apachelogger | vorian: how does it feel to be a MOTU? | 22:52 |
| Xand3r | new source is up, redy to find new stupid mistakes | 22:53 |
| vorian | apachelogger: weird | 22:57 |
| vorian | :) | 22:58 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 22:58 |
| vorian | haha | 22:58 |
| * vorian is looking at kvpm | 23:01 | |
| Xand3r | vorian: if you have time could you review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mailody-kde4 | 23:03 |
| vorian | Xand3r: sure thing, might be later in the evening. | 23:04 |
| Xand3r | kk | 23:04 |
| apachelogger | hm | 23:04 |
| Xand3r | my watch says 00:00 | 23:04 |
| apachelogger | that is later in the night for Xand3r anyway :P | 23:04 |
| vorian | it's 6pm here | 23:04 |
| Xand3r | emm no 00:04 | 23:04 |
| vorian | ok, earlier in the morning then? | 23:04 |
| vorian | :P | 23:04 |
| Xand3r | kk | 23:05 |
| Xand3r | has digikam-kde4 conflicts with digikam? | 23:05 |
| apachelogger | vorian: morning is a matter of definiton really ;-) | 23:05 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: yes | 23:05 |
| vorian | right-o | 23:05 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: kk | 23:05 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: and digikam-doc I guess | 23:06 |
| vorian | i'll switch my irssi shell to utc | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: considering digikam comes with documentation | 23:06 |
| Xand3r | hmmm | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | vorian: I am running my whole life according to UTC from time to time | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | hm | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: did you actually think about that once? | 23:07 |
| * apachelogger only started with that to get better organized with his amarok release schedules | 23:07 | |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: no -doc only -dbb | 23:07 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: well, you should have a -dbg in your debian/control which conflicts the digikam-dbg | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | digikam-kde4-dbg vs. digikam-dbg | 23:08 |
| Xand3r | kk | 23:08 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: uhmm it seems i am as well | 23:09 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 23:09 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: conercning mailody - please add a copyright statement to the manpage itself | 23:10 |
| apachelogger | *concerning | 23:10 |
| Xand3r | -.- | 23:10 |
| Xand3r | i am tired | 23:10 |
| apachelogger | oh oh oh | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: and add a debian/watch file | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | to learn something new ;-) | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: see man uscan for information about that | 23:11 |
| Xand3r | gnaaaaaaa | 23:12 |
| Xand3r | digikam stands, only details are to do | 23:14 |
| Xand3r | and i why i can compile it with libkipi, i normaly need the dev | 23:15 |
| Xand3r | may be something is not rigth there | 23:15 |
| Xand3r | so i go sleeping folks | 23:15 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i go sleeping, nini | 23:16 |
| Nightrose | night Xand3r | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | nini Xand3r | 23:16 |
| Xand3r | night Nightrose | 23:16 |
| Nightrose | heh apachelogger... - and there is my "your signed key" mail as well :P | 23:23 |
| Nightrose | that was like a year ago - jeeez | 23:24 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 23:27 |
| smarter | 'night everyone | 23:32 |
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