yuriyhmm dist-upgrading isn't quite feasible yet is it00:15
nixternalOK, what needs to be done like right now?00:43
nixternalgimme a list00:43
nixternalit is way to hot and humid to ride tonight, so I shall stay in, do laundry and hack on Kubuntu and KDE stuff00:43
voriannixternal: do we really want dfsg for ktorrent?00:44
vorianand hello :)00:44
nixternalyes, ktorrent should be dfsg, cuz if it isn't, then it means it isn't free00:44
nixternalunless you want to put it in multiverse and have me stop using it :)00:46
voriani don't know about that ...00:46
nixternaland don't plan on shipping it on our isos00:46
nixternalya, we don't ship multiverse stuff in our isos00:47
* vorian needs to read more closely00:47
nixternalonly main, the free stuff, except for our bogus kernel :P00:47
vorianright, i thought you typed "we won't be shipping it on our isos"00:47
nixternalor not our kernel, but the restricted-modules I should say00:47
vorianmy mistake00:47
=== papabean_ is now known as papabean
yuriynixternal: you could fix replaces and such in intrepid packages to make upgrades possible :D01:43
vorianyuriy: is there a bug-tag for those?01:47
* vorian looks01:47
yuriyvorian: I'm just referring to my current upgrading attempt01:49
yuriythough a lot of problems were solved by removing all hardy kde4 packages that I missed01:50
vorianthe kdebase-runtime package01:50
vorianah, i see01:50
yuriyand there are a lot of dependency problems with Xorg01:50
JontheEchidnaBe back tomorrow03:03
maltedikoh man. i finally find out why my kopete didnt compile with jabber-support04:00
maltediki can die now (after adding the info to the kde techbase ;))04:01
yuriyintrepid and my laptop aren't very good friends05:14
DaskReecHI'm strangely un tempted by intrepid this cycle05:18
* yuriy watches intrepid/kde 4.1 restore his ancient kde3 session05:46
yuriynow if only xserver-xorg-input-mouse was installed05:47
DaskReecHHa ha that's sweet05:47
yuriyor -kbd for that matter05:47
=== kewark is now known as krawek
apacheloggermouz: yakuake > stjerm07:48
apacheloggerNightrose: the red is too red07:49
apacheloggercompile something with cmake and you'll almost get blinded by the redness of red07:49
Nightroseapachelogger: the read is perfect as it shows new queries here ;-)07:49
* apachelogger honelsty doesn'ty like it07:50
apacheloggerthe green is also a bit too bright07:50
apacheloggerbut the red can kill07:50
Tonio_hi there09:07
Tonio_Riddell: ping ?09:07
mouzapachelogger: does that mean you do not want to review my packaging of stjerm?09:19
apacheloggermouz: it has lower priority09:25
apacheloggermouz: revued12:35
Tonio_Riddell: ping ?13:02
Riddellhi Tonio_13:04
* smarter waves13:05
smartercould someone please upload my updated kde4-style-bespin package? http://smarter.free.fr/pkg/bespin/13:06
smarterI was wondering if I should rename it to kde-style-bespin13:07
gnomefreakeverything else is being moved from kde4 to kde including the profiles and friends13:09
Riddellsmarter: kde 3 widget styles are mostly still installable I think, so probably best to keep them as kde- and kde 4 ones as kde4- for now13:09
smarter(also available at: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/bespin/ubuntu)13:09
Xand3rapachelogger: i know now the problem, in hardy qt4.4 is in the backports of hardy13:25
Xand3rif i build on a build server are there the backports included?13:26
Xand3rapachelogger:  i set in the build-depends libqt4-dev (>=4.4)13:28
Xand3rs that declared right?13:28
Xand3rsmarter: maybe you could help me?13:32
Xand3rScottK: hi, the only problem there is ,screenie-qt depends on libqt4-dev from qt4.413:35
Xand3rso it needs the backport qt13:35
Xand3rno one here -.-13:38
Tonio_Riddell: hey ;)13:48
Tonio_Riddell: what about the plan to write a xrandr gui ?13:48
Tonio_Riddell: a collegue of mine would eventually be interested13:48
Riddellmostly I was hoping the one in KDE would fix itself for 4.113:49
Tonio_Riddell: the point is that the krandrtray and randr kpart are still being worked on by kde guys...13:49
Tonio_Riddell: okay so you would wait for 4.1 and then decide what to do ?13:49
Tonio_Riddell: in any case I might have a resource available in case we have to code something13:49
Riddellwell, it would be nice to know what the chances are of it working13:49
Tonio_Riddell: and on the other hand, I'm going for several contrib days tomorrow13:49
Tonio_Riddell: lot of work recently, but for all the week, I'll be there for packaging stuff13:50
Tonio_Riddell: well the kcm module guy is currently a nightmare :)13:50
Tonio_Riddell: so as sad a few days ago, this time I'm back :) tomorrow morning 9 am...13:50
Tonio_Riddell: I'll need to make a point on the intrepid status to write a hudge todo for the next weeks13:51
Tonio_Riddell: also, will you be there at the oscon ?13:52
Tonio_Riddell: I will13:52
Xand3ri need some help, i whant to include hardy backport in my pbuilder-dist, so i added the line in ~/pbuilder/etc/hardy/apt.conf/sources.list13:56
Xand3rbut if i use the command pbuilder-dist hardy update , the new line is ignored, what i have done wrong?13:57
* Riddell has never got that to work13:58
smarterXand3r: I think you have to edit /etc/pbuilderrc13:58
HobbseeXand3r: you need to use --override-config13:59
Hobbseewhen running your udpate, after config changes.13:59
Xand3rHobbsee: so i edit the source.list in that dir above nd than i run "pbuilder-dist hardy update --override-config"?14:01
HobbseeXand3r: yes, assuming that it's actually using those configuration files14:02
Xand3rcool now it runs thx14:03
HobbseeRiddell: it's not that hard, really.14:04
RiddellI've not tried hard14:04
Xand3rRiddell: if a package need a nother package from the backports, does that makes problems?14:06
RiddellXand3r: problems for what?14:07
Xand3rfor the building14:07
HobbseeXand3r: no, it'll pull it from the repository14:08
Xand3ri want to get screenie-qt backported, it needs the libqt4-dev, but the 4.4 from the backport14:09
Riddellqt 4.4 is in backports, so there's no problem14:12
Riddellwhy does it need libqt4-dev anyway?14:12
Xand3rthe intrepid package needed it14:15
* nixternal notes to Riddell that he is still awaiting the "how-to" email :)14:50
nixternalare there any current show stoppers?14:50
* yuriy hugs txwikinger and JontheEchidna 15:01
JontheEchidnaGood morning15:02
txwikingerhi yuriy15:02
yuriyyay X actually installs now15:08
JontheEchidnaHmm, I'll be back in half an hour15:21
apacheloggerbug 23517115:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 235171 in kdegames "solitaire: spider is too hard!!!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23517115:36
apacheloggerwhat to do with that?15:36
JontheEchidnaConfucious say, noobs must die15:40
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: good point15:41
JontheEchidnaI doubt anyone would do anything about it anyway15:42
JontheEchidnaHmm, what about bug 3888715:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 38887 in gdm "Login managers should list "Ubuntu"/"Kubuntu" as options instead of "GNOME"/"KDE"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3888715:42
JontheEchidnaBecause I don't think they should15:42
apacheloggerno, they shouldn't15:43
apacheloggerthat is like dont use sdofi use swo15:43
apacheloggerit's as likely that someone doesn't know what the difference between Kubuntu/Ubuntu15:43
JontheEchidnaHmm, it looks like somebody rejected it but forgot to actually close it.15:43
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: give it a final kick then ;-)15:44
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: what do you think about bug 8934815:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 89348 in kdegames "some installed games have bad command string" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8934815:51
JontheEchidnaHmm, shouldn't he file separate bugs for each package that does that, or at the least assign that bug to the different packages that still have the problem?15:53
JontheEchidnaIt doesn't seem to be a KDE problem either way.15:53
apacheloggerit effects all kdegames15:54
apacheloggerthough I think it is pretty won't fix15:54
apacheloggerusr/games is in the default PATH15:54
apacheloggerif someone changes it, it's really his own fault15:54
JontheEchidnaYeah, he should put usr/games in his path if he wants it to work15:54
apacheloggerotherwise I could just remove usr/bin and say I want all other desktop files with absolute path15:55
apacheloggerquoting the spec:15:55
apacheloggerExec   Program to execute, possibly with arguments.15:55
apacheloggernot path to an executable15:55
JontheEchidnaBy default Dolphin has an entry for network:/ on the sidebar, right?15:57
JontheEchidnaOk, I removed some entries so I wasn't sure15:58
apacheloggerRiddell: shouldn't kdewebdev-kde4 be moved to kdewebdev?16:00
JontheEchidnaSo about bug 63287, should I mark it fixed since currently Intrepid's kdm theme uses normal button widgets, or should we wait to see what sort of kdm theme intrepid will get?16:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 63287 in kdebase "Login screen menu button doesn't look like a menu button" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6328716:09
apacheloggervorian: congrats!16:11
* apachelogger hands everyone a glass of beer16:11
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: wouldn't say so16:13
apacheloggertheming is coming back16:13
JontheEchidnaSo then we should wait until we get a theme?16:14
apacheloggerI'd say so16:16
JontheEchidnaBtw, is Kubuntu going to place the trashcan plasmoid in the panel by default for Intrepid?16:18
apacheloggerin case we are able to16:21
Riddellapachelogger: I'm unsure about kdewebdev, the kde4 version doesn't include quanta yet which is the main application17:05
txwikingerwhat's wrong with lp?17:05
Riddellwrong shade of green?17:06
Riddelldunno, I'd need a clue17:06
txwikingerI can't login anymore17:06
Riddellworks for me17:08
txwikingerwell. I have sent me the reset password thingy.. maybe that works17:09
yuriyhmm.. can't install nvidia, can't boot .26 kernel, can't use an external monitor with nv, and nv+krfb+vncviewer is really really slow17:11
yuriywith my broken backlight, I think that leaves me with ssh -X for testing17:21
RiddellScottK: where's your guidance stuff?17:43
Czessi__Riddell: you received my email from sunday?17:44
RiddellCzessi__: about sending the poster stand?17:45
RiddellCzessi__: that's the right address, I'll pick it up there for lugradio live then take it to akademy17:46
Czessi__Riddell: ok, thanks. i'll try to send it tomorrow17:47
RiddellScottK: bug 245339?  Surely guidance-power-manager now needs to depend on guidance-backends17:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245339 in guidance-power-manager "[intrepid] package guidance-power-manager 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24533917:48
Riddellhi Xand3r, I uploaded kwin-style-crystal17:49
Xand3rRiddell: thx a lot17:49
* Riddell out17:51
apacheloggerXand3r: wanna package digikam-kde4?18:35
Xand3rapachelogger: it would be much or?18:35
apacheloggerdigikam is about the same amoutn of work as amarok I guess18:36
apacheloggerand it's using the same release script :D18:36
* apachelogger is pretty proud18:36
Xand3rapachelogger: that says nothin to me18:36
apacheloggerXand3r: well, take a look at it18:36
apacheloggeryou can mostly root your work in the kde3 package18:37
Xand3rok i will have a look at it18:37
Xand3rapachelogger: where is the bug i have to assingn?18:38
apacheloggerXand3r: create one18:39
txwikingerb0rked KDE :D18:42
apacheloggerhow could you18:47
txwikingerwhy does konq lose intermittently the ability to store cookies?18:47
apacheloggerworks for me18:47
txwikingerI had to re-login18:47
txwikingerNow it works again too18:47
apacheloggermaybe kded crashed18:47
txwikingeryeah maybe18:47
apacheloggerI think the cookiejar is running as kded module18:47
txwikingershouldn't use this old KDE3 stuff :D18:47
txwikingeryes it is18:48
txwikingerat least in KDE318:48
txwikingernot sure about KDE418:48
Xand3rapachelogger: is libkipi already build?18:52
apacheloggerdon't think so18:53
apacheloggeroh actually18:53
apacheloggerkipi is part of kdegraphics nowadays18:53
apacheloggerXand3r: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/4:4.0.83-0ubuntu118:53
Xand3rbut i dont have to build it ^^18:54
apacheloggerrighty right18:55
apacheloggersmarter: btw, kvpm revued18:57
Xand3romg i download the files right now, it seams to be the wrong, but i see how much files theire are in, with my 6 kb/s upload i will have fun18:57
smarterapachelogger: thanks18:57
smarterapachelogger: what's the X-KDE-SubstituteUID=true for?18:57
Xand3rthe pictures take much place18:57
apacheloggersmarter: kdesu18:58
Xand3rapachelogger:  i am checking out svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/graphics/digikam19:01
Xand3ris that the right digikam version?19:01
apacheloggerXand3r: digikam.org19:01
Xand3rit is from the hp19:02
Xand3ri will download a tar19:02
Xand3rapachelogger: version 0.10 right?19:04
Xand3rok have i to name the package digikam-kde4?19:04
Xand3rapachelogger: ^19:05
apacheloggerXand3r: aye19:06
dAskreeChis 0.10 stable?19:07
apacheloggerdAskreeCh: no19:07
dAskreeChExpected to be stable by 10 ?19:10
yuriyreally? so intrepid will still have the KDE3 version?19:10
txwikingeryuriy: really?19:11
txwikingerI thought only the the apps that will not be ported will be available in the KDE3 form under KDE419:12
yuriytxwikinger: talking about digikam. i'm surprised that apachelogger said 0.10 should be digikam-kde419:12
dAskreeChIt should19:12
apacheloggeryuriy: it is alpha19:12
yuriydefinitely won't be stable or RC by october?19:13
apacheloggerunlike ubuntu19:13
apacheloggerI don't rely on other's schedules19:13
apacheloggerthough, we could ship digikam beta and then release 8.10.1 once digikam 0.10 final is out :P19:14
dAskreeChI thought .1 were a LTS thing19:14
apacheloggerso? KDE 4.1 is stable enough to go LTS and we still are one LTS release behind ;-)19:15
dAskreeChapachelogger: That's a good point :)19:16
dAskreeChJust need to convince canonical to keep the repos open a few months longer than normal :)19:17
txwikingerKDE4 will not be stable enough for LTS for another year19:17
apacheloggerI guess then we could also ship some alpha/beta of Amarok which would be make Nightrose happy :D19:17
dAskreeCh* happy19:17
Nightrosenot really19:17
Nightrose<- easy to make her happy19:18
txwikingerwell.. you have another 2 weeks to go from alpha/beta to release19:18
txwikingerShould be enough since you guys have nothing else to do :p19:18
* Nightrose kicks txwikinger 19:18
apacheloggeryou have unused workforce19:19
apacheloggerthat is waste of developer's lifetime IMO19:19
txwikingerah thank you... my back is stiff and needs that19:19
dAskreeChNightrose: I was going to say it's easy to make you happy but decided to hold my tongue umm fingers.19:19
apacheloggerwhen was 3.5.9 released?19:19
NightrosedAskreeCh: ;-)19:19
Nightroseapachelogger: honey I know - just that all of the folks i had to do work suddenly went MIA19:20
apacheloggerFebruary 19th, 2008 (The INTERNET)19:20
Nightrosetxwikinger: you're welcome ;-)19:20
txwikingerThe INTERNET is no authority to quote from19:20
apacheloggerNightrose: MIAmi?19:20
apacheloggertxwikinger: KDE e.V. is19:20
Nightroseapachelogger: :P maybe19:20
apacheloggerI would certainly go to MIAmi19:20
txwikingerapachelogger: well you did not say that19:20
txwikingerMIAmi.. around this time?19:21
txwikingerNo thank you19:21
apacheloggertxwikinger: well19:21
apacheloggerlook at it19:21
txwikingerGators and mosquitos19:21
apacheloggerwhere did I indicate a quote?19:21
txwikinger<apachelogger> February 19th, 2008 (The INTERNET)19:21
apacheloggerthat was a random alignment of chars and digits19:21
txwikingerwell.. next time just give the Gödelnummer19:21
txwikingerthat will save bandwidth19:21
txwikingerGödelnumber eveb19:22
txwikingersomehow I don't get to my EU - Anti-competition law stuff today19:22
apacheloggertxwikinger: that leaves more time for beer19:23
apacheloggerwhere is vorian anyway19:23
Xand3rapachelogger: do i need any stuff from digikam-kde3?19:23
* apachelogger suspects he is already drunk and lying somewhere under some table in some channel starting with ubu or kubu19:24
apacheloggerXand3r: the descriptions?19:24
apacheloggersome deps?19:24
apacheloggerthe binary package deps?19:24
apacheloggerthe copyright?19:24
txwikingerbeer? You want to kill me with engl. beer?19:24
apacheloggerand stUff and stuff19:24
apacheloggertxwikinger: you don't get imported beer on the island?19:24
txwikingeryes .. corona19:25
apachelogger<3 corona19:25
apachelogger<3 captain ;-)19:25
Xand3rapachelogger: -.- ok19:25
txwikingerViva Mejico!19:25
apacheloggerby times I find bug reports very strange19:28
apacheloggerbug 4814619:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 48146 in kdegraphics "Poor font rendering in kpdf" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4814619:28
apachelogger2nd comment has some examples19:29
apacheloggerand IMO the kpdf rendering looks more readable than the xpdf one19:29
apacheloggerin fact I get dizzy from the latter19:29
JontheEchidnaI must agree19:29
txwikingerKDE3 does not work.. KDE4 does not work... what is this?19:30
apacheloggertxwikinger: you b0rked it all19:30
apacheloggertime for reinstall19:30
txwikingeryes.... I am good in that19:30
txwikingerno .. already fixed it19:30
dAskreeChtwm ftw!19:31
txwikingerneed to switch desktops effect on and off that I have a decorator running19:31
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you know, I think what they call poor font rendering is just a different font ;-)19:31
yuriyapachelogger: looks to me like it's using a different font19:31
yuriyI wouldn't really say one is more readable than the other19:31
apacheloggerxpdf - look at the first 2 words for 3 seconds19:32
apacheloggerif you don't feel dizzy then you must be a pirate or something... at least used to boats19:32
yuriyI can very slightly see what you mean19:33
yuriyI say [ask him to] check in okular19:33
apacheloggeror just claim it works in okular19:33
apacheloggerand not mention that I don't see the problem in the screenshot :P19:34
JontheEchidnaDidn't ktip get offed for KDE4?19:34
dAskreeChI think by default19:34
JontheEchidnaI seem to remember a gleefully written entry in commit-digest about it19:35
apachelogger<-- got an idea19:35
dAskreeChBy Riddell as I recall19:35
JontheEchidnayeah, I think it was Riddell19:35
apacheloggerNightrose: can you please look at http://www.proxc.com/kpdf/kubuntu6.10-kpdf.png http://www.proxc.com/kpdf/kubuntu6.10-xpdf.png http://www.proxc.com/kpdf/fc6-kpdf.png and tell me whether you think the rendering in the kubuntu kpdf one is worse than in the others19:35
* JontheEchidna looks in adept for ktip-kde419:36
Nightroseapachelogger: k19:36
JontheEchidnaYes! KTip really is dead! :o19:36
JontheEchidnaToo bad this bug isn't KTip's fault...19:37
JontheEchidnaElse I could close it :(19:37
jussi01JontheEchidna: what is / was ktip?19:37
JontheEchidnaAt startup you'd get a tip of the day thing19:37
JontheEchidnaNobody used it and it was annoying19:37
dAskreeChAFAIR when you start up a program and it says Did you Know??19:37
jussi01I just wish I knoew how to change those litle pop ups from the tray19:37
apacheloggerthat question is stupid in itself IMHO19:38
apacheloggerif I know it - why would I want to read it19:38
apacheloggerif I don't know it - why would I want to be confronted with my stupidity in not knowing it19:38
Nightroseapachelogger: hmmmm it is different - but worse.... not really IMHO19:38
apacheloggermerci beaucoup Nightrose19:39
dAskreeChapachelogger: Ignorance is not really stupidity19:39
apacheloggerwell, it gives some kind of uncool feeling19:40
Xand3rapachelogger:  can i use the old copyright? cause it maybe changed some things19:40
apacheloggerXand3r: you can use the old one and update it ;-)19:41
apacheloggerbut I think doing it from scratch is faster19:41
Xand3rso make a totaly new on?19:41
dAskreeChapachelogger: I think the largest problem was that it was maintained somewhat like fortune with random people putting in info19:42
Xand3rok thx apachelogger19:42
apacheloggerdAskreeCh: what is the problem with random people?19:43
dAskreeChapachelogger: one app would have the same "tip" written in 3 different ways. Some tips were things like Smile and the world Smiles with you. And most of all none of them had anythin to do with KDE419:45
yuriyJontheEchidna: you're not doing 5-a-day?19:45
apacheloggerdAskreeCh: that can happen with one guy as well19:46
dAskreeChapachelogger: Except the 3 different ways one19:46
apacheloggerdAskreeCh: of course19:46
apacheloggeryou are doing these tips in a 2 years time frame19:47
txwikingerdAskreeCh: well.. we had a new software on an exhibition once and an error message that was quite X-rated popped up in the middle of a demo for a customer19:47
apacheloggerlet's say ever 6 months you add a bunch19:47
apacheloggerthere is no way you will remember all the added tips after 2 years19:47
txwikingerThe developer that checked that stuff in had a lot of explaining to do19:47
dAskreeChtxwikinger: I'll assume this wasn't a customer who was peddling xrated stuff?19:48
txwikingerNo.. a customer that was supposed to give us a very large contract19:49
smarterapachelogger: new upload of kvpm at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kvpm ;)19:49
txwikingerand a customer that was not amused about it19:49
dAskreeChapachelogger: I think the developer would clean up things from KDE2 at least19:50
apacheloggerI can't remember stuff from KDE219:50
apacheloggerthat said, KDE 3 was much like KDE 2 in the beginning :P19:50
apacheloggerand not anything like KDE 3.519:50
apacheloggersmarter: did you testbuild with the manpage?19:51
smarterapachelogger: yep19:51
* apachelogger advocates19:51
Xand3rapachelogger: there are so much copyright holders of so much files -.-20:01
apacheloggerXand3r: did you ever look at kdelibs/kdebase ;-)20:02
Xand3ri i dont want to20:02
apacheloggerXand3r: come on :P20:04
* apachelogger felt quite funny when seeing that 20:04
apacheloggerbug 210171 kicks a**20:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 210171 in kdegraphics "[hardy] Memory leak in kpdf" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21017120:05
Xand3ri watch tv may be in some minutes i am strong enough for the copyright20:07
apacheloggerdoes anyone want to fix bug 15949520:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 159495 in kdegraphics "kdvi doesn't want to play with tetex anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15949520:13
ScottKRiddell: Does guidance-power-manager actually use xf86misc?  AFAIK that's for setting display properties.20:17
RiddellScottK: yes, for idle time detection20:18
ScottKCan we teach it a different way to to that?20:18
ScottKThen yes, I guess it does need to depend on guidance-backends.20:19
ScottKSo much for getting rid of that.20:19
RiddellScottK: well if guidance-backends goes away it's easy enough to remove your patch and bring xf86misc back to g-power-manager20:19
yuriyis there a kwin-style-crystal for KDE4?20:27
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yuriyXand3r was working on that? Xand3r: can you check for bug 107595 with the new package?20:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 107595 in kdebase "Windows icons (icon on titlebar) get resized on maximizing/restoring windows on Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10759520:31
apacheloggeryuriy: I can't reproduce that one20:35
vorianwooo hoo!20:45
vorianthanks guys ^.^20:45
Riddellvorian: hmm?20:47
vorianRiddell: I'm a motu now20:47
Xand3rapachelogger:  this is the copyright part http://paste.ubuntu.com/26006/20:48
yuriycongrats vorian20:48
Riddellvorian: oh fooey, I've been meaning to comment on that20:48
Xand3rand i cant see an end20:48
vorianRiddell: no worries :)20:48
vorianit all happened much faster than I thought it would20:48
apacheloggerstill too slow IMO ;-)20:48
apacheloggerah well20:49
apacheloggervorian: get working http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=stjerm ;-)20:49
vorianoh, I need the button20:49
Xand3rapachelogger: there have to be another way or?20:49
RiddellXand3r: in my humble opinion debian/copyright should be a summary of hte major copyright holders, it doesn't need to list every file and it's authors20:49
Xand3rah ok20:50
* apachelogger agrees with Riddell20:50
apacheloggerXand3r: you only have a couple of copyright holders anyway20:50
Riddellas an archive admin I'm more interested in the licence(s)20:51
Nightrosecongratulations vorian :)20:51
* Nightrose hands vorian a cookie20:51
vorianthanks :)20:51
Riddellstdin: did you talk to upstream about that kdepim cmake issue?20:52
Xand3rRiddell: the licences were no prob20:52
apacheloggerstdin: did you create a list of motu-like contriubtions yet? :P20:54
RiddellXand3r: so just list Gilles and the two other major copyright holders and sorted20:54
Xand3rRiddell: hmm i will see20:55
RiddellScottK: I added a comment to bug 23699620:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 236996 in hardy-backports "PyQt 4.4.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23699620:57
ScottKRiddell: Thanks.  Looking.20:57
apacheloggervorian: btw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Kubuntu21:00
vorianapachelogger: roger21:00
Xand3rRiddell: there are more than 2 other21:03
apacheloggerXand3r: main copyright holders he meant21:04
vorianmanpage error21:05
vorianapachelogger: the package looks good21:10
Xand3rapachelogger:  i guess it is Renchi Raju, Gilles Caulier, Marcel Wiesweg21:11
Xand3rbut i am not sure21:11
vorianthere was a small issue with the upstream manpage21:11
apacheloggervorian: small == ?21:11
apacheloggerXand3r: sounds good to me21:11
vorianI: stjerm: hyphen-used-as-minus-sign usr/share/man/man8/stjerm.8.gz:10921:11
Xand3rapachelogger: kk21:12
voriandid not excape a hyphen correctly21:12
apacheloggervorian: easy enough to patch it yourself I guess ;-)21:13
apacheloggervorian: leave a note about that and advocate21:13
voriangot it21:13
apacheloggervorian: up to uploading then :)21:13
Xand3rapachelogger: upstream autors are the same like the copyright holders?21:14
apacheloggervorian: ultimately you dch -a a changelog entry and note that you introduced that fix21:14
apacheloggerthen just debuild -S -sa and dput ubuntu DSCFILE21:15
* apachelogger also notes that without change it would be - debuild -S -sa -k"YourKeyName" :)21:15
vorianja, i have that all set in devscripts21:16
apacheloggerXand3r: well, if there is an AUTHORS file you would use the people listed there21:16
apacheloggerotherwise just use the copyright holders21:16
Xand3roh kk21:16
Xand3rapachelogger: all or only the mainß21:18
vorianah, i see it now21:18
voriani couldn't see the illegal hyphens21:18
apacheloggerXand3r: hm?21:19
Xand3rapachelogger:  the hole AUTHORS file http://paste.ubuntu.com/26018/21:20
apacheloggervorian: archived the revu upload21:20
apacheloggersmarter: you could give vorian a cookie and ask him for a revu of kvpm later on ;-)21:20
apacheloggerXand3r: just reuse the copyright holders21:21
apacheloggerXand3r: I am not sure this file is 100% up-to-date21:21
Xand3rapachelogger:  Copyright http://paste.ubuntu.com/26024/ ; changelog http://paste.ubuntu.com/26025/ ; control http://paste.ubuntu.com/26026/21:36
Xand3rapachelogger: please review the pastes cause my upload is so weak it would take hours with the changes on revu21:37
apacheloggerXand3r: you can do debuild -S ... then it would only upload the diff and dsc21:38
apacheloggerin theory at least ;-)21:38
Xand3ri dont trust in the theory21:39
Xand3rapachelogger: have you found something?21:40
apacheloggerXand3r: please make the description reflect it is for KDE 421:42
Xand3rhmm ok21:42
apacheloggerXand3r: It was downloaded from http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/digikam/digikam-0.10.0-beta1.tar.bz221:42
apacheloggerno complete paths!21:42
apacheloggerXand3r: digikam.org or something21:43
Xand3rhmm ok21:43
Xand3rdone both21:44
Xand3rfirst of all i will build it here and look at the logs21:45
Xand3rupload would take hours21:45
Xand3rit sems you dont belief me, i realy have an 6kb/s upload21:47
dAskreeChapachelogger: They are discussing compiling it on #digikam now if you want to sit in21:49
apacheloggerXand3r: ^21:50
Riddellapachelogger: who's the amarok dude(s) at last.fm?21:51
NightroseRiddell: mxcl21:51
apacheloggerRiddell: muesli and mxcl21:51
Xand3rapachelogger: something i going wrong here, pbuilder compiles it with the libkipi but it normaly would need the dev22:10
Xand3rbut with dev i get an error22:10
apacheloggerwhich error22:11
Xand3rwith the dev files it could not find libkipi22:12
Xand3rmaybeit was not installed22:12
Xand3ri have now 38% without any error massage22:13
Riddellapachelogger: I uploaded your kdebase-workspace diff, sorry for the delay, maybe we should look at putting a kde4.mk in cdbs since that change might be needed everywhere else too22:13
apacheloggerRiddell: well, workspace should be the only one, but I really think we should move kde4.mk to cdbs22:15
Riddellapachelogger: I'm just mindful it's diverging from debian (but then it is anyway) and also that cdbs has broken whenever I've touched it22:16
apacheloggerRiddell: having own cdbs copies for every package is just awful for maintaining IMHO22:18
apacheloggerwe probably should also remove DEB_DH_INSTALL_SOURCEDIR = debian/tmp22:19
apacheloggerit makes installing stuff from debian/ impossible22:19
apacheloggerthrough debian/install that is of course :)22:19
Riddellyou can use ..22:20
* apachelogger tries22:21
Riddelltoma: adding GFDL to mailody22:22
tomao, do i get rich now?22:23
RiddelldAskreeCh: docs licence22:23
Riddelltoma: seems unlikely22:23
tomaRiddell: ok, do you mean in kubuntu or upstream?22:24
Riddelltoma: upstream22:24
tomaRiddell: okido!22:24
RiddellXand3r: are you still working on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mailody-kde4 ?22:24
dAskreeChah right22:25
Xand3remm ok i will do the changes22:26
* apachelogger is wondering why .. in debian/install didn't work earlier22:26
apacheloggerah well22:26
* apachelogger hands Riddell a cookie22:27
RiddellXand3r: you can ignore the lack of GFDL, I just added it upstream22:27
Xand3rRiddell: thx22:28
Xand3rRiddell: do i select akonadi-kde?22:30
apacheloggerXand3r: akonadi-kde, akonadi-server22:32
* apachelogger is wondering why -kde doesn't depend -server22:32
Xand3rapachelogger: thx22:33
apacheloggertoma: does mailody require the akonadi stuff from kdepim?22:33
tomaapachelogger: hmm, the user would like the resources at runtime, not needed at build time22:34
tomaapachelogger: but i think kdepimlibs/akonadi should pull them in22:34
apacheloggertoma: the kdepimlibs package doesn't22:36
* apachelogger adds an investigation to his todo22:36
Xand3rapachelogger: where i can get the right synopsis?22:36
tomaapachelogger: yeah, not sure what would be best to do here22:36
apacheloggerXand3r: mailody --help22:36
apacheloggertoma: trial and error ;-)22:37
tomano, i mean package wise22:37
Xand3rok for it i have to install it22:37
Xand3rbut i have no intrepid22:37
Xand3rapachelogger: so what is to do?22:38
apacheloggerXand3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26045/22:40
apacheloggerXand3r: oh, btw, about the question you had earlier22:40
apacheloggersudo pbuilder login --save-after login22:40
apacheloggerthen you can edit the /etc/apt/sources.list22:40
apacheloggerthen run apt-get update22:40
apacheloggerupon exit this will be your new pbuilder22:41
Xand3rah another way22:41
apacheloggerand to install software22:41
apacheloggerjust run sudo pbuilder login22:41
apacheloggerit will tell you the path your chroot is extracted to22:41
apacheloggercopy the deb to tmp/ or something22:41
apacheloggerand then install it in the pbuilder22:41
apacheloggertoma: I'll try to find out tomorrow22:42
Xand3rapachelogger: how can i build such a gigant man with docbook?22:43
apacheloggerXand3r: manually22:44
apacheloggeror you lazy and ask me to do it with motu magic ;-)22:44
Xand3rmoto magic22:45
Xand3ris good22:45
Xand3rapachelogger: so show me22:45
vorianna, Xand3r should do it old school22:45
apacheloggervorian: do you really want him to do that?22:46
vorianwell, i suppose not22:46
apacheloggerXand3r: well, you can't do it, because you don't have it installed ;-)22:46
apacheloggerXand3r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26049/22:47
Xand3rapachelogger: thx alot22:47
* apachelogger is wondering whether Xand3r is wondering why apachelogger was that fast :P22:48
Xand3rapachelogger: no, you are the master, you have to be so fast22:50
apacheloggerhm, that sounds like an almost reasonable explanaition ;-)22:51
apacheloggervorian: how does it feel to be a MOTU?22:52
Xand3rnew source is up, redy to find new stupid mistakes22:53
vorianapachelogger: weird22:57
* vorian is looking at kvpm23:01
Xand3rvorian: if you have time could you review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mailody-kde423:03
vorianXand3r: sure thing, might be later in the evening.23:04
Xand3rmy watch says 00:0023:04
apacheloggerthat is later in the night for Xand3r anyway :P23:04
vorianit's 6pm here23:04
Xand3remm no 00:0423:04
vorianok, earlier in the morning then?23:04
Xand3rhas digikam-kde4 conflicts with digikam?23:05
apacheloggervorian: morning is a matter of definiton really ;-)23:05
apacheloggerXand3r: yes23:05
Xand3rapachelogger: kk23:05
apacheloggerXand3r: and digikam-doc I guess23:06
voriani'll switch my irssi shell to utc23:06
apacheloggerXand3r: considering digikam comes with documentation23:06
apacheloggervorian: I am running my whole life according to UTC from time to time23:07
apacheloggerNightrose: did you actually think about that once?23:07
* apachelogger only started with that to get better organized with his amarok release schedules23:07
Xand3rapachelogger: no -doc only -dbb23:07
apacheloggerXand3r: well, you should have a -dbg in your debian/control which conflicts the digikam-dbg23:08
apacheloggerdigikam-kde4-dbg vs. digikam-dbg23:08
Nightroseapachelogger: uhmm it seems i am as well23:09
apacheloggerXand3r: conercning mailody - please add a copyright statement to the manpage itself23:10
Xand3ri am tired23:10
apacheloggeroh oh oh23:11
apacheloggerXand3r: and add a debian/watch file23:11
apacheloggerto learn something new ;-)23:11
apacheloggerXand3r: see man uscan for information about that23:11
Xand3rdigikam stands, only details are to do23:14
Xand3rand i why i can compile it with libkipi, i normaly need the dev23:15
Xand3rmay be something is not rigth there23:15
Xand3rso i go sleeping folks23:15
Xand3rapachelogger: i go sleeping, nini23:16
Nightrosenight Xand3r23:16
apacheloggernini Xand3r23:16
Xand3rnight Nightrose23:16
Nightroseheh apachelogger... - and there is my "your signed key" mail as well :P23:23
Nightrosethat was like a year ago - jeeez23:24
smarter'night everyone23:32
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