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| Belutz | @schedule Jakarta | 06:06 |
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| ubottu | Belutz: Schedule for Asia/Jakarta: 08 Jul 18:00: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 08 Jul 18:00: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 08 Jul 22:00: Server Team | 10 Jul 00:00: QA Team | 10 Jul 05:00: Platform Team | 10 Jul 20:00: Desktop Team | 06:06 |
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| * persia does the dance of preparedness (which may take 20 minutes) | 11:38 | |
| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 08 Jul 11:00 UTC: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 08 Jul 15:00 UTC: Server Team | 09 Jul 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00 UTC: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | ||
| amachu | elky: TheMuso: persia: lifeless: Hi | 11:56 |
| TheMuso | amachu: Hi. There is nobody on the agenda. | 11:56 |
| amachu | Yes | 11:56 |
| TheMuso | amachu: And lifeless said he likely may not be around. | 11:56 |
| amachu | ok | 11:56 |
| TheMuso | I'm all for postponing the meeting, unless there is something else we need to discuss. | 11:57 |
| elky | i second postponing | 11:57 |
| persia | Why postpone? Let's have the meeting now, and call it done, and have another next week. | 12:00 |
| elky | heh | 12:00 |
| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 08 Jul 15:00 UTC: Server Team | 09 Jul 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00 UTC: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | ||
| TheMuso | haha | 12:00 |
| * persia moves to adjourn the meeting | 12:00 | |
| elky | whichever way works | 12:00 |
| TheMuso | Seconded. | 12:01 |
| elky | that's probably the word we were looking for | 12:01 |
| elky | my brain started switching off about half an hour ago | 12:01 |
| TheMuso | lol | 12:01 |
| * persia waits for our fearless leader to take a decision based on the motion | 12:01 | |
| persia | elky: slow switch, or just intermittent for a while? | 12:01 |
| elky | we have a leader? | 12:01 |
| elky | persia, like water cooling | 12:02 |
| elky | so the former ;) | 12:02 |
| persia | Didn't we declare amachu lord high leader, secretary for life, and continual chair so the rest of us could get out of writing anything up? | 12:02 |
| amachu_ | persia? | 12:02 |
| elky | ah right, indeed! | 12:02 |
| elky | amachu, no agenda: luke, emmet and i all voted for postpone. aye or nay? | 12:03 |
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| persia | s/postpone/adjourn | 12:03 |
| amachu_ | elky: persia : TheMuso : so shall we have our next meeting on 22 Kuly | 12:03 |
| amachu_ | July | 12:03 |
| amachu_ | elky: I agree | 12:03 |
| elky | persia, stop making me look like a fool :Þ | 12:03 |
| persia | 22 works for me. | 12:03 |
| elky | yep | 12:03 |
| TheMuso | Yep that works for me also. | 12:04 |
| persia | elky: Sorry. It's a bit earlier here, so I have an advantage :) | 12:04 |
| elky | persia, cheat! | 12:04 |
| elky | g'nite guys | 12:04 |
| TheMuso | Night. | 12:04 |
| amachu_ | so we decide to have our next meeting on 22 July 08, 11.00 AM UTC | 12:05 |
| elky | amachu, i believe so | 12:05 |
| amachu_ | elky: g'nite | 12:05 |
| * elky wanders off to tv land for a few hours | 12:05 | |
| amachu_ | fine then | 12:05 |
| amachu_ | anything else to shared, discussed? | 12:05 |
| persia | amachu: Nope. | 12:07 |
| amachu_ | persia: ok. I will update the wiki accordingly. Thank you everyone for participating | 12:08 |
| amachu_ | have good day/ evening/ night ;-) | 12:08 |
| amachu_ | bye! | 12:09 |
| Belutz | hi all, sorry I just finished a meeting | 12:39 |
| persia | Belutz: No problem. We had a quick meeting. The only agenda items were 1) to schedule the next meeting for the 22nd, and 2) to adjourn. | 12:40 |
| Belutz | persia, ah ok | 12:40 |
| Belutz | persia, 22nd with the same time? | 12:40 |
| persia | Yep. | 12:41 |
| Belutz | ok, thanks persia :) | 12:41 |
| persia | My understanding is that we're skipping the 15th as the third Tuesday, which would be conflicting with the CC meeting. | 12:41 |
| Belutz | persia, ok :) | 12:49 |
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| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Server Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 09 Jul 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00 UTC: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | 10 Jul 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00 UTC: MOTU | ||
| kirkland | howdy all | 15:59 |
| * mathiaz waves | 15:59 | |
| sommer | yo | 15:59 |
| nxvl | \o\ |o| /o/ |o| \o\ | 15:59 |
| lukehasnoname | Kernkraft - Zombie Nation | 16:00 |
| zul | hello | 16:00 |
| nijaba | o/ | 16:00 |
| mathiaz | allright - let's get started | 16:00 |
| Koon | \o | 16:00 |
| mathiaz | for today's server team meeting ! | 16:01 |
| mathiaz | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is mathiaz. | 16:01 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:01 |
| mathiaz | Today's agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting | 16:01 |
| mathiaz | last meeting logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20080701 | 16:02 |
| mathiaz | I've updated the Roadmap | 16:02 |
| mathiaz | so that we knwo what's we're working on during this release cycle | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | if things are missing there, add them to the wiki page | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap | 16:03 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i still owe you an update to the Roadmap on the LSB init script stuff | 16:03 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I'll do that today | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: great - thanks | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] kirkland to update the lsb section on the roadmap | 16:04 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: kirkland to update the lsb section on the roadmap | 16:04 |
| nxvl | need to add the augeas thing also | 16:04 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: do you know what you wanna add there ? | 16:04 |
| nxvl | i will try to do it tonight | 16:04 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: yeah, so the status_of_proc() function is in Ubuntu's lsb, and has been pushed to Debian, where the maintainer says he likes it, and will integrate after the Debian freeze is over | 16:05 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: there's a list of package in this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/lsb/+bug/203169 | 16:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 203169 in samba ""status" function for init scripts" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 16:05 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok - so now we need to update the package to use this lsb function | 16:05 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: those are the key server packages where I'd like to submit a stack of very small patches to use this function | 16:05 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I'm going to try and knock all of those out today | 16:06 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok - great ! | 16:06 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: should only take a few hours | 16:06 |
| nxvl | kirkland: so finally the DM accepted the patch? Awesome! | 16:06 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I will need sponsorship, of course | 16:06 |
| zul | kirkland: feel free to bug me | 16:06 |
| nxvl | kirkland: and me | 16:06 |
| kirkland | zul: awesome! | 16:06 |
| kirkland | nxvl: cool! | 16:07 |
| nxvl | i have some time this weekend | 16:07 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I'd advise you to go through the sponsorship queue | 16:07 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: right, i will certainly do that | 16:07 |
| mathiaz | great - let's move on | 16:07 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] # | 16:08 |
| mathiaz | Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap. | 16:08 |
| MootBot | New Topic: # | 16:08 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap. | 16:08 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap. | 16:08 |
| mathiaz | nealmcb: any new factoids ? | 16:08 |
| mathiaz | sommer: I've looked into the splitting the server guide from the big ubuntu-doc branch | 16:09 |
| mathiaz | sommer: It seems really easy to achieve | 16:10 |
| mathiaz | sommer: so one option we could do is to push our own branch - and then you could merge it the ubuntu-doc branch | 16:10 |
| mathiaz | sommer: I'm not sure if that would work well, but we could give it a try | 16:10 |
| sommer | mathiaz: yep, and the more I think about it the more I'm all for it :) | 16:11 |
| mathiaz | sommer: the ubuntu-doc bzr branch uses a format that support sub-tree, so it's really easy to split a sub-directory in its own branch | 16:12 |
| sommer | mathiaz: do you know what needs to happen as far as the current LP branch? I guess I'm not too familiar with the branching process | 16:12 |
| mathiaz | sommer: however I haven't figured out how to deal with translations | 16:12 |
| mathiaz | sommer: no yet - I'm still experimenting with it | 16:12 |
| sommer | mathiaz: translations, are really one of the biggest issues when dealing with the docs... for me it's easy to forget about them | 16:13 |
| nxvl | i have some workaround on a bzr branch on how to do translations | 16:13 |
| sommer | mathiaz: great, just let me know how I can help :) | 16:13 |
| nxvl | the script is ubuntu-course specific, but it won't be hard to change it | 16:13 |
| mathiaz | sommer: well - what I don't understand is where/when the translations are included | 16:13 |
| mathiaz | sommer: IIUC they're done in rosetta - but how do they end up in the bzr tree ? | 16:14 |
| sommer | mathiaz: the when is after string freeze, the new strings are translated and the packages are created | 16:14 |
| nxvl | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~nvalcarcel/ubuntu-desktop-course/ubuntu-desktop-course-translation | 16:14 |
| nxvl | this a po maker script | 16:14 |
| mathiaz | sommer: right - so there is not point in having the .po files in the bzr branch ? | 16:14 |
| sommer | mathiaz: I think they're synced sometime after SF | 16:15 |
| nxvl | this is* | 16:15 |
| sommer | mathiaz: I don't think so, at least not right away | 16:15 |
| LaserJock | .pot files are created from the docbook, put in the source package, and they get extracted to Rosetta, then the .po files are downloaded, converted back into docbook | 16:15 |
| mathiaz | sommer: hm - ok - I think I'll ask about that on the ubuntu-doc ml or IRC channel | 16:15 |
| nxvl | mathiaz: rosette generates .pot files | 16:15 |
| nxvl | mathiaz: so at some point you only need to download them and include in your release | 16:16 |
| nxvl | rosetta* | 16:16 |
| sommer | LaserJock: ah, thanks that makes more sense :) | 16:16 |
| LaserJock | nxvl: rosetta generates .po files, you send it .pot files | 16:16 |
| mathiaz | LaserJock: well - can I ask more detailed questions about the process after the meeting ? | 16:17 |
| nxvl | LaserJock: :D I'm not a translation expert, thanks for clearing it | 16:17 |
| LaserJock | mathiaz: sure | 16:17 |
| mathiaz | LaserJock: thanks - let's move on | 16:17 |
| LaserJock | mathiaz: I'm not a translation expert but I do it for edubuntu-docs | 16:17 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Migrate openldap configuration to cn=config | 16:17 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Migrate openldap configuration to cn=config | 16:17 |
| mathiaz | so I've started to work on that spec - and got some preliminary code | 16:17 |
| mathiaz | I've finally understood the packaging bits and have a plan now | 16:18 |
| mathiaz | I'd like to talk with slangasek about it and get some if his input on this | 16:19 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Boot Support for Degraded RAID | 16:19 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Boot Support for Degraded RAID | 16:19 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: anything new ? | 16:19 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: nope, not yet | 16:19 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok | 16:19 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: are you blocked on something ? | 16:20 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: the Ecryptfs work is pretty much done, i'm turning my focus now to Degraded RAID and ISCSI | 16:20 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: or just not enough time ? | 16:20 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: time ;-) | 16:20 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Encrypted ~/Private Directory in Each User's Home | 16:20 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Encrypted ~/Private Directory in Each User's Home | 16:20 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: anything to test ? | 16:20 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I think I'm going to tackle Degraded RAID first | 16:20 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: yes, this stuff is in pretty good shape in Intrepid now | 16:20 |
| nealmcb | mathiaz: sorry - was distracted - we have a new kvm factoid and an updated virtualization factoid | 16:21 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: so it's uploaded - can we ask for more widespread testing ? | 16:21 |
| nealmcb | !kvm | 16:21 |
| ubottu | kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM | 16:21 |
| nealmcb | !virtualization | 16:21 |
| ubottu | There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !kvm is the preferred approach in Ubuntu. See also !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications | 16:21 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I'll update the testing instructions in the Spec and send an email out to the server mailing list | 16:21 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: great - could you also add an item to the Testing section on the Roadmap ? | 16:21 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: there's one thing that has to be done manually still.... | 16:21 |
| mathiaz | nealmcb: great - thanks | 16:22 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: one line has to be added to /etc/pam.d/common-auth, and one line to /etc/pam.d/common-session | 16:22 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: does this need to be documented somewhere ? | 16:22 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i need some advice from slangasek on how to do this automatically or on install | 16:22 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: it's documented in the Spec | 16:22 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: basically, the pam_ecryptfs.so module needs to be added to the stack | 16:22 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I don't understand how we can do this automatically and within Debian policy | 16:22 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: any help here would be much appreciated | 16:23 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] kirkland to update the testing instructions in the Spec and send an email out to the server mailing list about ecrypts fs | 16:23 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: kirkland to update the testing instructions in the Spec and send an email out to the server mailing list about ecrypts fs | 16:23 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I'd suggest to send an email to ubuntu-devel@ | 16:23 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: okay, will do | 16:23 |
| dendrobates | kirkland: I have some ideas as well. | 16:23 |
| kirkland | dendrobates: yeah? | 16:23 |
| kirkland | dendrobates: let's talk offline, then | 16:24 |
| dendrobates | kirkland: ok | 16:24 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION]: kirkland to ask for feedback on how to add the pam_ecryptfs module to the pam stack | 16:24 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: : kirkland to ask for feedback on how to add the pam_ecryptfs module to the pam stack | 16:24 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Migrate new installs and upgrades of client and server packages to use SSL v3 or TLS | 16:25 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Migrate new installs and upgrades of client and server packages to use SSL v3 or TLS | 16:25 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: ? | 16:25 |
| ivoks | hi | 16:25 |
| ivoks | sorry for being late | 16:25 |
| ivoks | this is just configuration change | 16:25 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: np - just in time for your spec :) | 16:25 |
| ivoks | for all services, so only patches needed are for config files | 16:25 |
| ivoks | this is a no brainer, and will be done at the end of this week | 16:26 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: do you have a list of services that needs to be updated ? | 16:26 |
| ivoks | (i'm just busy these days with exams on faculty; tomorrow is the last one) | 16:26 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: I don't see it on the wiki page | 16:26 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigrateOffSSL2 | 16:26 |
| ivoks | apache2, dovecot, postfix | 16:26 |
| ivoks | i'll finish wiki after tomorrow | 16:27 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: these are the only services ? | 16:27 |
| ivoks | only that come to my mind atm | 16:27 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION]: ivoks to update the MigrateOffSSL2 wiki page with a list of services that needs to be checked and fixed | 16:27 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: : ivoks to update the MigrateOffSSL2 wiki page with a list of services that needs to be checked and fixed | 16:27 |
| ivoks | i'll take a look at openldap also | 16:28 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: great - thanks. | 16:28 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Integration of Dovecot SASL and Postfix | 16:28 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Integration of Dovecot SASL and Postfix | 16:28 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: while you're around - ^^ | 16:28 |
| ivoks | shoot :) | 16:28 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: one question I have is why use dovecot sasl ? | 16:28 |
| ivoks | yes, openldap is a config change too | 16:29 |
| ivoks | TLSCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM:-SSLv2 | 16:29 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: while doing some prep work for the kerberos spec, I quickly looked at sasl | 16:29 |
| ivoks | mathiaz: saslauthd? | 16:29 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: there are indeed two implementations of sasl in main, cyrus an dovecot | 16:29 |
| ivoks | right | 16:30 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: unfortunately support for dovecot sasl is almost inexistent (only exim and postfix) | 16:30 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: so we need to keep cyrus-sasl in main for the other services | 16:30 |
| nxvl | mathiaz: i have deploy dovecot with sasl before, is painful but it can be done | 16:30 |
| ivoks | so... basicaly, why not do postfix and cyrus too? | 16:31 |
| ivoks | s/cyrus/dovecot | 16:31 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkAuthentication/KerberizeServices | 16:31 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: ^^ there is a list of services in main that support sasl | 16:31 |
| ivoks | ok | 16:32 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: so the aim is to provide an easy way to enable sasl auth in postfix - why not choose cyrus ? | 16:32 |
| sommer | mathiaz: don't you have to change the cyrus socket location if using postfix in chroot? which could cause an issue if running those other services on the same box? | 16:33 |
| mathiaz | sommer: well - you'd have the same problem with dovecot | 16:33 |
| sommer | with dovecot you have to change the location as well, but since less services can use it less are affected | 16:33 |
| ivoks | well... there is no special reason, except the chrooted postfix, but that's the same problem with dovecot | 16:33 |
| ivoks | doh.. :) | 16:33 |
| sommer | heh | 16:34 |
| sommer | it just feels to me that dovecot and postfix make a good match... plus they're both mail related so they might be more likely to be installed on the same box | 16:34 |
| ivoks | i don't recall what were the reasons to move to dovecot | 16:34 |
| mathiaz | well - my main argument is that most of services in main use cyrus sasl | 16:34 |
| ivoks | except that setting dovecot's sasl is easy and all packages are already there | 16:34 |
| mathiaz | and it seems that it will be the case for quite some time as supporting dovecot sasl require hacking the src code IIUC | 16:35 |
| sommer | and postfix is by default in chroot | 16:35 |
| ivoks | fwiw, we will have the same packaging problems with both variants | 16:35 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: aggreed | 16:35 |
| sommer | would un-chrooting postfix alleviate some of the pain? | 16:36 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: so it may worth looking into improving cyrus sasl experience | 16:36 |
| ivoks | sure | 16:36 |
| ivoks | if cyrus is way to go for everything else... well, it would be silly not to go there with postfix and dovecot, too | 16:37 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: so - should we retarget to integrate cyrus sasl instead of dovecot sasl for postfix ? | 16:37 |
| * ivoks cries... | 16:38 | |
| ivoks | ah well, ok :D | 16:38 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: could you look into that and report back what needs to be done to integrate postfix and cyrus sasl ? | 16:38 |
| ivoks | life would be much easier if postfix wouldn't be chrooted :/ | 16:38 |
| ivoks | mathiaz: simple: get postfix out of jail or add another 'meta' package that would delete cyrus socket, create it in postfix chroot, and then link old location | 16:39 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION] ivoks to look into cyrus sasl/postfix integration | 16:40 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: ivoks to look into cyrus sasl/postfix integration | 16:40 |
| mathiaz | ivoks: I'll update the roadmap then. | 16:40 |
| ivoks | ok | 16:40 |
| mathiaz | [ACTION]: mathiaz to update the Roadmap wrt postfix sasl integration | 16:40 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: : mathiaz to update the Roadmap wrt postfix sasl integration | 16:40 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Ubuntu Manpage Repository | 16:40 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Ubuntu Manpage Repository | 16:40 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ? | 16:40 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: awaiting Kees' security audit | 16:41 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: elmo has agreed to provide hosting for it | 16:41 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: elmo just asked kees to sign off on the code | 16:41 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok - great | 16:41 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: there's a Launchpad project if anyone else wants to review | 16:41 |
| * nealmcb cheers | 16:41 | |
| mathiaz | kirkland: where ? | 16:41 |
| nxvl | kirkland: i can make a security audit on it, did you have some branch or link i can break? | 16:42 |
| nxvl | :D | 16:42 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: nxvl: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manpage-repository | 16:42 |
| nxvl | (just to make things faster on kees revition) | 16:42 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i might add that the command line interface, "dman" absolutely kicks arse! | 16:42 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: could add a reference to dman to the spec somewhere ? | 16:43 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: instant access from a command line to any man page in any ubuntu release dapper - intrepid, main/universe/multiverse/restricted | 16:43 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: so that we can keep track of it ? | 16:43 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: well, i'd like to actually submit that to the "man" package once the backend repo is up on it's permanent ubuntu.com home | 16:44 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: it's only about 20 lines that does a wget and pipes to man | 16:44 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: just a shell wrapper | 16:44 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: sure | 16:44 |
| kirkland | http://ubuntu.dustinkirkland.com/dman | 16:44 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://ubuntu.dustinkirkland.com/dman | 16:44 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: it's temporarily housed in the same LP project as the repository code | 16:44 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: seems great to me | 16:45 |
| mathiaz | let's move on | 16:45 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: I'm going to send it to cjwatson eventually | 16:45 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Call for user experiences on WBEM/CIM Servers | 16:45 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Call for user experiences on WBEM/CIM Servers | 16:45 |
| mathiaz | Koon: ^ ? | 16:45 |
| Koon | I've been investigating possibilities we have for integrating a WBEM/CIM server in Ubuntu server | 16:45 |
| Koon | I was wondering if anyone in the team had any experience with that he would like to share | 16:46 |
| Koon | the possibilities are : OpenWBEM, SBLIM, OpenPegasus (others ?) | 16:46 |
| Koon | anyone uses them, or has an opinion on them ? | 16:46 |
| ivoks | guess not :) | 16:47 |
| * sommer hasn't used any | 16:47 | |
| Koon | ivoks: heh ;) | 16:48 |
| Koon | ok, let's move on then :) | 16:48 |
| * nxvl doesn't even know what they are or do | 16:48 | |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Intrepid alpha 2 | 16:48 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Intrepid alpha 2 | 16:48 |
| mathiaz | A reminder that we're gearing up for Alpha2 to be released this thursday | 16:48 |
| ivoks | nxvl: something blabla enterprise blabla :D | 16:48 |
| ivoks | already?! | 16:49 |
| mathiaz | there is a soft freezr in effect as announced by pitti: | 16:49 |
| ivoks | doh... | 16:49 |
| mathiaz | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-July/000445.html | 16:49 |
| nxvl | ivoks: that's what i thought | 16:49 |
| mathiaz | that means we'll some -server isos to be tested in the next few days | 16:49 |
| mathiaz | we'll *have* | 16:49 |
| mathiaz | #ubuntu-testing and the iso qa tracker are the place to keep track of that | 16:50 |
| sommer | do the isos work with kvm? | 16:50 |
| kirkland | yeah, the kvm business is really hurting my testing | 16:50 |
| nxvl | i always download them on my class of thursday and start testing them | 16:50 |
| nijaba | soren said he would upload a patch to fix that shortly | 16:50 |
| mathiaz | sommer: I don't know - I'm not sure :/ | 16:51 |
| sommer | Yay! | 16:51 |
| nxvl | sommer: i always test them using KVM | 16:51 |
| nxvl | sommer: with virt-manaer | 16:51 |
| nxvl | manager* | 16:51 |
| mathiaz | sommer: a new kernel has been uploaded - I was able to boot an intrepid guest | 16:51 |
| mathiaz | sommer: but there were tons of oopses | 16:51 |
| sommer | mathiaz: oh cool, I checked a while back and wasn't able to boot... will try again :) | 16:52 |
| mathiaz | sommer: yes - 2.4.26-2 wasn't working at all | 16:52 |
| mathiaz | sommer: 2.6.26-3 should work | 16:52 |
| nxvl | i have some intrepid guest generated by u-vm-builder without problems | 16:52 |
| nxvl | u just needed to create them as a hardy and then upgrade | 16:53 |
| nealmcb | Koon: if you have a version of your request for wbem/cim info that is a bit more expanded and in context I'd be happy to forward it to folks that should know.... | 16:53 |
| Koon | nealmcb: great, will send that to you | 16:53 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Open Discussion | 16:53 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Open Discussion | 16:53 |
| mathiaz | anything else to add ? | 16:53 |
| nxvl | o/ | 16:54 |
| sommer | I was wondering if we could get a serverguide factiod? | 16:54 |
| sommer | at least that's a url I copy and paste a lot :) | 16:54 |
| mathiaz | nealmcb: ^^ could you take care of that ? | 16:54 |
| nxvl | yes please! | 16:54 |
| mathiaz | nxvl: you wanted to add something ? | 16:55 |
| nxvl | yep | 16:55 |
| nxvl | Augeas is about to reach the archive | 16:56 |
| nxvl | i have already worked on a list of suggested/needed services | 16:56 |
| nxvl | and i have already get some lenses | 16:56 |
| nxvl | i talked to raphink earlier today and he said he has some and he will mail them to me | 16:56 |
| nxvl | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCentralizedServiceAdministrator/Augeas | 16:56 |
| nxvl | this is the list | 16:57 |
| nxvl | if you have some suggestions on it, or want to add/remove something | 16:57 |
| nxvl | i will be really grateful | 16:57 |
| nxvl | (if you want to write some lenses better) | 16:57 |
| nxvl | i also wrote a call for lensers | 16:57 |
| nxvl | but i thing i do it on a bad time (sunday) | 16:58 |
| mathiaz | @schedule | 16:58 |
| ubottu | mathiaz: Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: Server Team | 09 Jul 17:00: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00: Desktop Team | 10 Jul 16:00: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00: MOTU | 16:58 |
| nxvl | mathiaz: so if you make echo on the ubuntu server blog it would be really cool | 16:58 |
| nxvl | original post can be found here: http://nvalcarcel.aureal.com.pe/?p=199 | 16:59 |
| mathiaz | nxvl: I'll write something up - it will be in the minutes anyway :) | 16:59 |
| mathiaz | anything else to add ? | 16:59 |
| nxvl | not from me | 16:59 |
| nxvl | that's all i wanted to add | 16:59 |
| mathiaz | [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time | 17:00 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Agree on next meeting date and time | 17:00 |
| mathiaz | same place, same time, next week ? | 17:00 |
| sommer | works for me | 17:00 |
| ivoks | yes, sound good... | 17:01 |
| mathiaz | excellent than - see you all next week here at the same time | 17:01 |
| mathiaz | thanks for coming and happy iso testing ! | 17:02 |
| mathiaz | #endmeeting | 17:02 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 11:03. | 17:02 |
| sommer | thanks mathiaz, later on all | 17:02 |
| * nealmcb will talk to sommer about serverguide factoids | 17:02 | |
| nijaba | Thanks mathiaz | 17:03 |
| * nealmcb was distracted by a house guest... | 17:03 | |
| nealmcb | !documentation | 17:05 |
| ubottu | documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com | 17:05 |
| sommer | nealmcb: could we get a !serverguide, with a specific link... and maybe linking the development docs? | 17:06 |
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| nealmcb | sommer: I would think so - but it seems like the existing documentation factoid could be enhanced also | 17:10 |
| nealmcb | wiki.ubuntu.com isn't really documentation - and there is much confusion as a result | 17:10 |
| sommer | nealmcb: sounds good to me :) | 17:11 |
| nealmcb | we can continue the chat in u-s in a bit after I finish something else | 17:11 |
| sommer | nealmcb: cool, I'm at lunch as well | 17:12 |
| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 09 Jul 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00 UTC: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | 10 Jul 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00 UTC: MOTU | 12 Jul 13:00 UTC: Xubuntu Community | ||
| slangasek | kirkland: munging pam configs - can we fix that once for all this cycle? | 18:05 |
| kirkland | slangasek: dendrobates has pointed me to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AuthClientConfig for that | 18:07 |
| slangasek | kirkland: which is not what I'm talking about at al | 18:07 |
| slangasek | all | 18:07 |
| slangasek | AuthClientConfig is just not scalable, it only lets you switch between profiles | 18:07 |
| slangasek | we should probably take this to #-devel, though | 18:08 |
| kirkland | slangasek: agreed, i'm on a call at the moment | 18:08 |
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