=== Rafik_ is now known as Rafik === asac_ is now known as asac [06:06] @schedule Jakarta [06:06] Belutz: Schedule for Asia/Jakarta: 08 Jul 18:00: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 08 Jul 18:00: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 08 Jul 22:00: Server Team | 10 Jul 00:00: QA Team | 10 Jul 05:00: Platform Team | 10 Jul 20:00: Desktop Team === doko__ is now known as doko === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [11:38] * persia does the dance of preparedness (which may take 20 minutes) === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 08 Jul 11:00 UTC: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 08 Jul 15:00 UTC: Server Team | 09 Jul 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00 UTC: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team [11:56] elky: TheMuso: persia: lifeless: Hi [11:56] amachu: Hi. There is nobody on the agenda. [11:56] Yes [11:56] amachu: And lifeless said he likely may not be around. [11:56] ok [11:57] I'm all for postponing the meeting, unless there is something else we need to discuss. [11:57] i second postponing [12:00] Why postpone? Let's have the meeting now, and call it done, and have another next week. [12:00] heh === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 08 Jul 15:00 UTC: Server Team | 09 Jul 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00 UTC: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team [12:00] haha [12:00] * persia moves to adjourn the meeting [12:00] whichever way works [12:01] Seconded. [12:01] that's probably the word we were looking for [12:01] my brain started switching off about half an hour ago [12:01] lol [12:01] * persia waits for our fearless leader to take a decision based on the motion [12:01] elky: slow switch, or just intermittent for a while? [12:01] we have a leader? [12:02] persia, like water cooling [12:02] so the former ;) [12:02] Didn't we declare amachu lord high leader, secretary for life, and continual chair so the rest of us could get out of writing anything up? [12:02] persia? [12:02] ah right, indeed! [12:03] amachu, no agenda: luke, emmet and i all voted for postpone. aye or nay? === Rafik_ is now known as Rafik [12:03] s/postpone/adjourn [12:03] elky: persia : TheMuso : so shall we have our next meeting on 22 Kuly [12:03] July [12:03] elky: I agree [12:03] persia, stop making me look like a fool :Þ [12:03] 22 works for me. [12:03] yep [12:04] Yep that works for me also. [12:04] elky: Sorry. It's a bit earlier here, so I have an advantage :) [12:04] persia, cheat! [12:04] g'nite guys [12:04] Night. [12:05] so we decide to have our next meeting on 22 July 08, 11.00 AM UTC [12:05] amachu, i believe so [12:05] elky: g'nite [12:05] * elky wanders off to tv land for a few hours [12:05] fine then [12:05] anything else to shared, discussed? [12:07] amachu: Nope. [12:08] persia: ok. I will update the wiki accordingly. Thank you everyone for participating [12:08] have good day/ evening/ night ;-) [12:09] bye! [12:39] hi all, sorry I just finished a meeting [12:40] Belutz: No problem. We had a quick meeting. The only agenda items were 1) to schedule the next meeting for the 22nd, and 2) to adjourn. [12:40] persia, ah ok [12:40] persia, 22nd with the same time? [12:41] Yep. [12:41] ok, thanks persia :) [12:41] My understanding is that we're skipping the 15th as the third Tuesday, which would be conflicting with the CC meeting. [12:49] persia, ok :) === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 08 Jul 15:00 UTC: Server Team | 09 Jul 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00 UTC: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | 10 Jul 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00 UTC: MOTU === effie is now known as keffie_jayx === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Server Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 09 Jul 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00 UTC: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | 10 Jul 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00 UTC: MOTU [15:59] howdy all [15:59] * mathiaz waves [15:59] yo [15:59] \o\ |o| /o/ |o| \o\ [16:00] Kernkraft - Zombie Nation [16:00] hello [16:00] o/ [16:00] allright - let's get started [16:00] \o [16:01] for today's server team meeting ! [16:01] #startmeeting [16:01] Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is mathiaz. [16:01] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:01] Today's agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting [16:02] last meeting logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20080701 [16:02] I've updated the Roadmap [16:03] so that we knwo what's we're working on during this release cycle [16:03] if things are missing there, add them to the wiki page [16:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap [16:03] mathiaz: i still owe you an update to the Roadmap on the LSB init script stuff [16:03] mathiaz: I'll do that today [16:03] kirkland: great - thanks [16:04] [ACTION] kirkland to update the lsb section on the roadmap [16:04] ACTION received: kirkland to update the lsb section on the roadmap [16:04] need to add the augeas thing also [16:04] kirkland: do you know what you wanna add there ? [16:04] i will try to do it tonight [16:05] mathiaz: yeah, so the status_of_proc() function is in Ubuntu's lsb, and has been pushed to Debian, where the maintainer says he likes it, and will integrate after the Debian freeze is over [16:05] mathiaz: there's a list of package in this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/lsb/+bug/203169 [16:05] Launchpad bug 203169 in samba ""status" function for init scripts" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [16:05] kirkland: ok - so now we need to update the package to use this lsb function [16:05] mathiaz: those are the key server packages where I'd like to submit a stack of very small patches to use this function [16:06] mathiaz: I'm going to try and knock all of those out today [16:06] kirkland: ok - great ! [16:06] mathiaz: should only take a few hours [16:06] kirkland: so finally the DM accepted the patch? Awesome! [16:06] mathiaz: I will need sponsorship, of course [16:06] kirkland: feel free to bug me [16:06] kirkland: and me [16:06] zul: awesome! [16:07] nxvl: cool! [16:07] i have some time this weekend [16:07] kirkland: I'd advise you to go through the sponsorship queue [16:07] mathiaz: right, i will certainly do that [16:07] great - let's move on [16:08] [TOPIC] # [16:08] Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap. [16:08] New Topic: # [16:08] [TOPIC] Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap. [16:08] New Topic: Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap. [16:08] nealmcb: any new factoids ? [16:09] sommer: I've looked into the splitting the server guide from the big ubuntu-doc branch [16:10] sommer: It seems really easy to achieve [16:10] sommer: so one option we could do is to push our own branch - and then you could merge it the ubuntu-doc branch [16:10] sommer: I'm not sure if that would work well, but we could give it a try [16:11] mathiaz: yep, and the more I think about it the more I'm all for it :) [16:12] sommer: the ubuntu-doc bzr branch uses a format that support sub-tree, so it's really easy to split a sub-directory in its own branch [16:12] mathiaz: do you know what needs to happen as far as the current LP branch? I guess I'm not too familiar with the branching process [16:12] sommer: however I haven't figured out how to deal with translations [16:12] sommer: no yet - I'm still experimenting with it [16:13] mathiaz: translations, are really one of the biggest issues when dealing with the docs... for me it's easy to forget about them [16:13] i have some workaround on a bzr branch on how to do translations [16:13] mathiaz: great, just let me know how I can help :) [16:13] the script is ubuntu-course specific, but it won't be hard to change it [16:13] sommer: well - what I don't understand is where/when the translations are included [16:14] sommer: IIUC they're done in rosetta - but how do they end up in the bzr tree ? [16:14] mathiaz: the when is after string freeze, the new strings are translated and the packages are created [16:14] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~nvalcarcel/ubuntu-desktop-course/ubuntu-desktop-course-translation [16:14] this a po maker script [16:14] sommer: right - so there is not point in having the .po files in the bzr branch ? [16:15] mathiaz: I think they're synced sometime after SF [16:15] this is* [16:15] mathiaz: I don't think so, at least not right away [16:15] .pot files are created from the docbook, put in the source package, and they get extracted to Rosetta, then the .po files are downloaded, converted back into docbook [16:15] sommer: hm - ok - I think I'll ask about that on the ubuntu-doc ml or IRC channel [16:15] mathiaz: rosette generates .pot files [16:16] mathiaz: so at some point you only need to download them and include in your release [16:16] rosetta* [16:16] LaserJock: ah, thanks that makes more sense :) [16:16] nxvl: rosetta generates .po files, you send it .pot files [16:17] LaserJock: well - can I ask more detailed questions about the process after the meeting ? [16:17] LaserJock: :D I'm not a translation expert, thanks for clearing it [16:17] mathiaz: sure [16:17] LaserJock: thanks - let's move on [16:17] mathiaz: I'm not a translation expert but I do it for edubuntu-docs [16:17] [TOPIC] Migrate openldap configuration to cn=config [16:17] New Topic: Migrate openldap configuration to cn=config [16:17] so I've started to work on that spec - and got some preliminary code [16:18] I've finally understood the packaging bits and have a plan now [16:19] I'd like to talk with slangasek about it and get some if his input on this [16:19] [TOPIC] Boot Support for Degraded RAID [16:19] New Topic: Boot Support for Degraded RAID [16:19] kirkland: anything new ? [16:19] mathiaz: nope, not yet [16:19] kirkland: ok [16:20] kirkland: are you blocked on something ? [16:20] mathiaz: the Ecryptfs work is pretty much done, i'm turning my focus now to Degraded RAID and ISCSI [16:20] kirkland: or just not enough time ? [16:20] mathiaz: time ;-) [16:20] [TOPIC] Encrypted ~/Private Directory in Each User's Home [16:20] New Topic: Encrypted ~/Private Directory in Each User's Home [16:20] kirkland: anything to test ? [16:20] mathiaz: I think I'm going to tackle Degraded RAID first [16:20] mathiaz: yes, this stuff is in pretty good shape in Intrepid now [16:21] mathiaz: sorry - was distracted - we have a new kvm factoid and an updated virtualization factoid [16:21] kirkland: so it's uploaded - can we ask for more widespread testing ? [16:21] !kvm [16:21] kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM [16:21] !virtualization [16:21] There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !kvm is the preferred approach in Ubuntu. See also !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications [16:21] mathiaz: I'll update the testing instructions in the Spec and send an email out to the server mailing list [16:21] kirkland: great - could you also add an item to the Testing section on the Roadmap ? [16:21] mathiaz: there's one thing that has to be done manually still.... [16:22] nealmcb: great - thanks [16:22] mathiaz: one line has to be added to /etc/pam.d/common-auth, and one line to /etc/pam.d/common-session [16:22] kirkland: does this need to be documented somewhere ? [16:22] mathiaz: i need some advice from slangasek on how to do this automatically or on install [16:22] mathiaz: it's documented in the Spec [16:22] mathiaz: basically, the pam_ecryptfs.so module needs to be added to the stack [16:22] mathiaz: I don't understand how we can do this automatically and within Debian policy [16:23] mathiaz: any help here would be much appreciated [16:23] [ACTION] kirkland to update the testing instructions in the Spec and send an email out to the server mailing list about ecrypts fs [16:23] ACTION received: kirkland to update the testing instructions in the Spec and send an email out to the server mailing list about ecrypts fs [16:23] kirkland: I'd suggest to send an email to ubuntu-devel@ [16:23] mathiaz: okay, will do [16:23] kirkland: I have some ideas as well. [16:23] dendrobates: yeah? [16:24] dendrobates: let's talk offline, then [16:24] kirkland: ok [16:24] [ACTION]: kirkland to ask for feedback on how to add the pam_ecryptfs module to the pam stack [16:24] ACTION received: : kirkland to ask for feedback on how to add the pam_ecryptfs module to the pam stack [16:25] [TOPIC] Migrate new installs and upgrades of client and server packages to use SSL v3 or TLS [16:25] New Topic: Migrate new installs and upgrades of client and server packages to use SSL v3 or TLS [16:25] ivoks: ? [16:25] hi [16:25] sorry for being late [16:25] this is just configuration change [16:25] ivoks: np - just in time for your spec :) [16:25] for all services, so only patches needed are for config files [16:26] this is a no brainer, and will be done at the end of this week [16:26] ivoks: do you have a list of services that needs to be updated ? [16:26] (i'm just busy these days with exams on faculty; tomorrow is the last one) [16:26] ivoks: I don't see it on the wiki page [16:26] ivoks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigrateOffSSL2 [16:26] apache2, dovecot, postfix [16:27] i'll finish wiki after tomorrow [16:27] ivoks: these are the only services ? [16:27] only that come to my mind atm [16:27] [ACTION]: ivoks to update the MigrateOffSSL2 wiki page with a list of services that needs to be checked and fixed [16:27] ACTION received: : ivoks to update the MigrateOffSSL2 wiki page with a list of services that needs to be checked and fixed [16:28] i'll take a look at openldap also [16:28] ivoks: great - thanks. [16:28] [TOPIC] Integration of Dovecot SASL and Postfix [16:28] New Topic: Integration of Dovecot SASL and Postfix [16:28] ivoks: while you're around - ^^ [16:28] shoot :) [16:28] ivoks: one question I have is why use dovecot sasl ? [16:29] yes, openldap is a config change too [16:29] TLSCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM:-SSLv2 [16:29] ivoks: while doing some prep work for the kerberos spec, I quickly looked at sasl [16:29] mathiaz: saslauthd? [16:29] ivoks: there are indeed two implementations of sasl in main, cyrus an dovecot [16:30] right [16:30] ivoks: unfortunately support for dovecot sasl is almost inexistent (only exim and postfix) [16:30] ivoks: so we need to keep cyrus-sasl in main for the other services [16:30] mathiaz: i have deploy dovecot with sasl before, is painful but it can be done [16:31] so... basicaly, why not do postfix and cyrus too? [16:31] s/cyrus/dovecot [16:31] ivoks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkAuthentication/KerberizeServices [16:31] ivoks: ^^ there is a list of services in main that support sasl [16:32] ok [16:32] ivoks: so the aim is to provide an easy way to enable sasl auth in postfix - why not choose cyrus ? [16:33] mathiaz: don't you have to change the cyrus socket location if using postfix in chroot? which could cause an issue if running those other services on the same box? [16:33] sommer: well - you'd have the same problem with dovecot [16:33] with dovecot you have to change the location as well, but since less services can use it less are affected [16:33] well... there is no special reason, except the chrooted postfix, but that's the same problem with dovecot [16:33] doh.. :) [16:34] heh [16:34] it just feels to me that dovecot and postfix make a good match... plus they're both mail related so they might be more likely to be installed on the same box [16:34] i don't recall what were the reasons to move to dovecot [16:34] well - my main argument is that most of services in main use cyrus sasl [16:34] except that setting dovecot's sasl is easy and all packages are already there [16:35] and it seems that it will be the case for quite some time as supporting dovecot sasl require hacking the src code IIUC [16:35] and postfix is by default in chroot [16:35] fwiw, we will have the same packaging problems with both variants [16:35] ivoks: aggreed [16:36] would un-chrooting postfix alleviate some of the pain? [16:36] ivoks: so it may worth looking into improving cyrus sasl experience [16:36] sure [16:37] if cyrus is way to go for everything else... well, it would be silly not to go there with postfix and dovecot, too [16:37] ivoks: so - should we retarget to integrate cyrus sasl instead of dovecot sasl for postfix ? [16:38] * ivoks cries... [16:38] ah well, ok :D [16:38] ivoks: could you look into that and report back what needs to be done to integrate postfix and cyrus sasl ? [16:38] life would be much easier if postfix wouldn't be chrooted :/ [16:39] mathiaz: simple: get postfix out of jail or add another 'meta' package that would delete cyrus socket, create it in postfix chroot, and then link old location [16:40] [ACTION] ivoks to look into cyrus sasl/postfix integration [16:40] ACTION received: ivoks to look into cyrus sasl/postfix integration [16:40] ivoks: I'll update the roadmap then. [16:40] ok [16:40] [ACTION]: mathiaz to update the Roadmap wrt postfix sasl integration [16:40] ACTION received: : mathiaz to update the Roadmap wrt postfix sasl integration [16:40] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Manpage Repository [16:40] New Topic: Ubuntu Manpage Repository [16:40] kirkland: ? [16:41] mathiaz: awaiting Kees' security audit [16:41] mathiaz: elmo has agreed to provide hosting for it [16:41] mathiaz: elmo just asked kees to sign off on the code [16:41] kirkland: ok - great [16:41] mathiaz: there's a Launchpad project if anyone else wants to review [16:41] * nealmcb cheers [16:41] kirkland: where ? [16:42] kirkland: i can make a security audit on it, did you have some branch or link i can break? [16:42] :D [16:42] mathiaz: nxvl: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manpage-repository [16:42] (just to make things faster on kees revition) [16:42] mathiaz: i might add that the command line interface, "dman" absolutely kicks arse! [16:43] kirkland: could add a reference to dman to the spec somewhere ? [16:43] mathiaz: instant access from a command line to any man page in any ubuntu release dapper - intrepid, main/universe/multiverse/restricted [16:43] kirkland: so that we can keep track of it ? [16:44] mathiaz: well, i'd like to actually submit that to the "man" package once the backend repo is up on it's permanent ubuntu.com home [16:44] mathiaz: it's only about 20 lines that does a wget and pipes to man [16:44] mathiaz: just a shell wrapper [16:44] kirkland: sure [16:44] http://ubuntu.dustinkirkland.com/dman [16:44] LINK received: http://ubuntu.dustinkirkland.com/dman [16:44] mathiaz: it's temporarily housed in the same LP project as the repository code [16:45] kirkland: seems great to me [16:45] let's move on [16:45] mathiaz: I'm going to send it to cjwatson eventually [16:45] [TOPIC] Call for user experiences on WBEM/CIM Servers [16:45] New Topic: Call for user experiences on WBEM/CIM Servers [16:45] Koon: ^ ? [16:45] I've been investigating possibilities we have for integrating a WBEM/CIM server in Ubuntu server [16:46] I was wondering if anyone in the team had any experience with that he would like to share [16:46] the possibilities are : OpenWBEM, SBLIM, OpenPegasus (others ?) [16:46] anyone uses them, or has an opinion on them ? [16:47] guess not :) [16:47] * sommer hasn't used any [16:48] ivoks: heh ;) [16:48] ok, let's move on then :) [16:48] * nxvl doesn't even know what they are or do [16:48] [TOPIC] Intrepid alpha 2 [16:48] New Topic: Intrepid alpha 2 [16:48] A reminder that we're gearing up for Alpha2 to be released this thursday [16:48] nxvl: something blabla enterprise blabla :D [16:49] already?! [16:49] there is a soft freezr in effect as announced by pitti: [16:49] doh... [16:49] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-July/000445.html [16:49] ivoks: that's what i thought [16:49] that means we'll some -server isos to be tested in the next few days [16:49] we'll *have* [16:50] #ubuntu-testing and the iso qa tracker are the place to keep track of that [16:50] do the isos work with kvm? [16:50] yeah, the kvm business is really hurting my testing [16:50] i always download them on my class of thursday and start testing them [16:50] soren said he would upload a patch to fix that shortly [16:51] sommer: I don't know - I'm not sure :/ [16:51] Yay! [16:51] sommer: i always test them using KVM [16:51] sommer: with virt-manaer [16:51] manager* [16:51] sommer: a new kernel has been uploaded - I was able to boot an intrepid guest [16:51] sommer: but there were tons of oopses [16:52] mathiaz: oh cool, I checked a while back and wasn't able to boot... will try again :) [16:52] sommer: yes - 2.4.26-2 wasn't working at all [16:52] sommer: 2.6.26-3 should work [16:52] i have some intrepid guest generated by u-vm-builder without problems [16:53] u just needed to create them as a hardy and then upgrade [16:53] Koon: if you have a version of your request for wbem/cim info that is a bit more expanded and in context I'd be happy to forward it to folks that should know.... [16:53] nealmcb: great, will send that to you [16:53] [TOPIC] Open Discussion [16:53] New Topic: Open Discussion [16:53] anything else to add ? [16:54] o/ [16:54] I was wondering if we could get a serverguide factiod? [16:54] at least that's a url I copy and paste a lot :) [16:54] nealmcb: ^^ could you take care of that ? [16:54] yes please! [16:55] nxvl: you wanted to add something ? [16:55] yep [16:56] Augeas is about to reach the archive [16:56] i have already worked on a list of suggested/needed services [16:56] and i have already get some lenses [16:56] i talked to raphink earlier today and he said he has some and he will mail them to me [16:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCentralizedServiceAdministrator/Augeas [16:57] this is the list [16:57] if you have some suggestions on it, or want to add/remove something [16:57] i will be really grateful [16:57] (if you want to write some lenses better) [16:57] i also wrote a call for lensers [16:58] but i thing i do it on a bad time (sunday) [16:58] @schedule [16:58] mathiaz: Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: Server Team | 09 Jul 17:00: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00: Desktop Team | 10 Jul 16:00: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00: MOTU [16:58] mathiaz: so if you make echo on the ubuntu server blog it would be really cool [16:59] original post can be found here: http://nvalcarcel.aureal.com.pe/?p=199 [16:59] nxvl: I'll write something up - it will be in the minutes anyway :) [16:59] anything else to add ? [16:59] not from me [16:59] that's all i wanted to add [17:00] [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time [17:00] New Topic: Agree on next meeting date and time [17:00] same place, same time, next week ? [17:00] works for me [17:01] yes, sound good... [17:01] excellent than - see you all next week here at the same time [17:02] thanks for coming and happy iso testing ! [17:02] #endmeeting [17:02] Meeting finished at 11:03. [17:02] thanks mathiaz, later on all [17:02] * nealmcb will talk to sommer about serverguide factoids [17:03] Thanks mathiaz [17:03] * nealmcb was distracted by a house guest... [17:05] !documentation [17:05] documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com [17:06] nealmcb: could we get a !serverguide, with a specific link... and maybe linking the development docs? === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [17:10] sommer: I would think so - but it seems like the existing documentation factoid could be enhanced also [17:10] wiki.ubuntu.com isn't really documentation - and there is much confusion as a result [17:11] nealmcb: sounds good to me :) [17:11] we can continue the chat in u-s in a bit after I finish something else [17:12] nealmcb: cool, I'm at lunch as well === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 09 Jul 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 09 Jul 22:00 UTC: Platform Team | 10 Jul 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | 10 Jul 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00 UTC: MOTU | 12 Jul 13:00 UTC: Xubuntu Community [18:05] kirkland: munging pam configs - can we fix that once for all this cycle? [18:07] slangasek: dendrobates has pointed me to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AuthClientConfig for that [18:07] kirkland: which is not what I'm talking about at al [18:07] all [18:07] AuthClientConfig is just not scalable, it only lets you switch between profiles [18:08] we should probably take this to #-devel, though [18:08] slangasek: agreed, i'm on a call at the moment === asac_ is now known as asac