[00:00] <Kano> but i would just remove the added line,more easy...
[00:39] <tjaalton> tga fixed
[00:47] <tjaalton> need to check what drivers to drop from video/input-all
[00:47] <tjaalton> at least cyrix, imstt, magictouch
[00:48] <tjaalton> oh well, something for the morning.. night
[07:56] <bryce> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjU3Mw
[07:57] <tjaalton> heh
[08:06] <tjaalton> ok, xorg uploaded
[09:28] <Q-FUNK> what would be the correct package for bug #245500 ?
[09:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 245500 in xserver-xorg-video-geode "Jigdo cannot build ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso: .jigdo file refers to missing package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245500
[09:28] <Q-FUNK> was reassigned to -geode but the issue is that 8.04.1 jigdo files point to an older version that is not what ships with hardy+1
[09:29] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: btw, cyrix is going to be dropped from intrepid, since it's deprecated and doesn't build against 1.5
[09:29] <tjaalton> but you probably knew that already :)
[09:29] <Q-FUNK> tjaalton: understood and expected.  afaik, nsc won't build against 1.5 either
[09:30] <tjaalton> seems like it did
[09:30] <Q-FUNK> ideally, the milestone to merge back GX1 support into -geode would happen now, so that we can fix this permanently, but it's only scheduled to happen in december...
[09:31] <Q-FUNK> it did?
[09:31] <Q-FUNK> was there a new nsc that fixes this?
[09:31] <tjaalton> no it's still 2.8.3
[09:31] <Q-FUNK> afaik, upstream purposely made it fail in git, because the nsc build succeeds but it produces a non-usable binary
[09:31] <tjaalton> but geode hardcodes the ABI?
[09:31] <tjaalton> (xserver-xorg-video-2)
[09:32] <tjaalton> ok, unusable is fine :)
[09:32] <Q-FUNK> -geode has all the latest #ifdef so it builds fine against 1.5
[09:32] <tjaalton> yeah but the Provides: didn't update
[09:33] <tjaalton> check how the other drivers grab the correct abiversion from xserver-xorg-dev
[09:33] <Q-FUNK> what should it be?  not -2 anymore?
[09:33] <tjaalton> 2.9
[09:34] <Q-FUNK> ok
[09:34] <tjaalton> but ideally the package should set it dynamically on build
[09:34] <Q-FUNK> right
[09:35] <Q-FUNK> IIRC I had decided to avoid parsing those version files from -dev to make it possible to build on Etch but, now that Lenny enters the freeze, I could just as easily upgrade that.
[09:35] <tjaalton> etch didn't have those?
[09:35] <Q-FUNK> etch provides 1.0 and didn't use those 3 files for the api and abi versions
[09:36] <tjaalton> ok
[09:36] <Q-FUNK> similar to ... feisty, IIRC
[09:36] <tjaalton> well, it's still trivial to backport
[09:36] <Q-FUNK> or maybe the ubuntu equivalent would go as far as edgy
[09:37] <tjaalton> so video-all should drop the dep on nsc?
[09:37] <Q-FUNK> but now that lenny is about to release, I could replace my -dev version parsing trick in debian/rules with using the normal 3 files for driver versions
[09:38] <Q-FUNK> tjaalton: you can still keep nsc in principle, but I vaguely recall something about it not properly building on 1.5, from the x.org bugzilla
[09:38] <tjaalton> well, it's not on my list of failed modules, so.. :)
[09:38] <tjaalton> it's fine for now
[09:39] <Q-FUNK> ok
[09:40] <tjaalton> since it doesn't block video-all
[09:51] <Q-FUNK> alright
[09:53] <Q-FUNK> jcristau: is lenny expected to release with 1.4 or 1.5 ?
[09:53] <jcristau> 1.4
[09:55] <Q-FUNK> alright. thanks for the confirmation
[09:56] <Q-FUNK> do we have a name yet for Lenny+1 ?
[09:57] <jcristau> no
[10:25] <Q-FUNK> ok
[11:10] <jcristau> bryce: your intel changelog says you don't build reg_dumper because pciaccess isn't in main, but surely that's not true anymore?
[11:13] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: want me to fix geode for now?
[11:13] <tjaalton> the abiver
[11:14] <Q-FUNK> tjaalton: I could upload one to debian/experimental, from which you can sync, if that works for you.
[11:16] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: sure, that's better
[11:20] <tseliot> tjaalton: as regards the serverabi for nvidia-glx-<ver>, shall I add the version to the build-dep on xserver-xorg-dev in the control file?
[11:20] <tseliot> if yes, which version?
[11:20] <tseliot> (for Intrepid)
[11:21] <tjaalton> tseliot: put (>= 2:1.4) like the other drivers have
[11:22] <tseliot> tjaalton: like this? Build-Depends: xserver-xorg-dev (>=2:1.4.1~git20080131-1ubuntu4)
[11:23] <tjaalton> 2:1.4 is enough
[11:23] <tseliot> ok, thanks
[11:23] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: what's the ETA for the upload? geode is blockin livecd builds :)
[11:24] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: maybe I'll upload a hardcoded fix now to get it in ASAP, we can sync later
[11:24] <Q-FUNK> tjaalton: I could do it now, if I find a sponsor
[11:24] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: aren't you a DD?
[11:25] <tjaalton> um, DM
[11:25] <Q-FUNK> unfortunately not
[11:25] <tjaalton> ok, your wikipage says so :)
[11:25] <Q-FUNK> tjaalton: yeah, because they didn't have a word for non-DD back then
[11:26] <tjaalton> ah ok
[11:26] <Q-FUNK> nor did they have separate upoad rights for maintainers. 
[11:26] <tjaalton> I'll upload a fix and we can sync after alpha1
[11:26] <tjaalton> uh alpha2
[11:26] <Q-FUNK> I aksed to be added to DM now, but it might take a few days to process
[11:27] <Q-FUNK> and that's assuming that there won't be any protest 
[12:36] <Q-FUNK> tjaalton: experimental package uploaded to mentors and awaiting sponsr
[12:37] <Q-FUNK> http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/maintainer-packages?action=details;package=xserver-xorg-video-geode
[12:39] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: ok, thanks
[13:49] <tseliot> tjaalton: the serverabi function seems to work well :-) I'll give you credit for this and for the initial merge in the changelog
[14:02] <tjaalton> tseliot: ok, cool :)
[14:03] <tjaalton> I'll try a dist-upgrade from hardy with your ppa
[14:04] <tseliot> tjaalton: I haven't updated my ppa yet
[14:05] <tseliot> I'll do it ASAP
[14:05] <tjaalton> ok thanks
[14:30] <superm1> bryce, hum... circular dependencies? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25935/
[14:31] <superm1> just transient caused by updates, or is something actually broke?
[14:31] <superm1> nvm it must have been transient, as it just went away from apt-get update
[14:32] <tjaalton> you need to change the Provides of fglrx
[14:32] <superm1> what to/
[14:32] <tjaalton> currently it Provides: xserver-xorg-video-2, change that to 2.9
[14:32] <tjaalton> which is the new video-ABI version
[14:33] <superm1> so xserver-xorg-video-2.9?
[14:33] <tjaalton> or, do what tseliot did and change the packaging to get that dynamically :)
[14:33] <tjaalton> (like all the other drivers do)
[14:33] <tjaalton> that would work
[14:33] <tjaalton> for now
[14:33] <superm1> well there is no provides in the source package right now
[14:33] <superm1> i'll take a look at what tseliot did then and add it
[14:33] <tjaalton> oh
[14:34] <superm1> what does this actually do?
[14:34] <tjaalton> it would allow to have only fglrx installed
[14:34] <tseliot> superm1: I haven't committed the changes yet. I'll send you a link to the source code ASAP
[14:34] <superm1> that sounds like a bad idea :)
[14:34] <tjaalton> heh
[14:34] <tjaalton> :)
[14:35] <tjaalton> you can leave it out if you like
[14:35] <tjaalton> I thought the error was due to that
[14:35] <superm1> well in principle it should be there though
[14:35] <superm1> so i'll get that in place
[14:35] <superm1> the error was because i did an intrepid CD build last night while the mirror was in a weird state 
[14:35] <superm1> tseliot, cool thx
[14:35] <tjaalton> ah, right
[15:05] <tjaalton> tseliot: what's the ETA of the ppa update?
[15:07] <tseliot> tjaalton: I'm about to build the packages locally on Intrepid 64. Then I'll have to test them. After that I'll upload them to my PPA. However I will have to bump to ubuntu2
[15:08] <tseliot> tjaalton: I'll ping as soon as they are ready, ok?
[15:08] <tseliot> ping you
[15:08] <tjaalton> tseliot: pl
[15:08] <tjaalton> uh
[15:08] <tjaalton> *ok
[15:17] <tjaalton> bryce: the greedy patch for intel makes the server to segfault, see bug 246581
[15:17] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 246581 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "X server crash in libfb.so when EXA is enabled" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246581
[15:18] <tjaalton> bryce: so, either disable it now or forward port it
[15:18] <tjaalton> *for now
[18:11] <bryce> jcristau: yes, but I left it off since I was building the driver on hardy.  I'll put reg_dumper back on in a subsequent upload once my intrepid build environment is working properly
[18:13] <bryce> tjaalton: ok on it
[18:17] <tjaalton> bryce: actualy, it's fixed already :)
[18:17] <tjaalton> +l
[18:17] <tjaalton> forgot to tell..
[18:21] <bryce> oh whoops
[18:22] <bryce> looks like -via is failing to build
[18:27] <bryce> hrm, I really need to get my intrepid pbuilder working
[18:27] <tjaalton> bryce: yeah I was wrong about the sync.. it hasn't been ported to pciaccess, so it should be removed from the archive
[18:27] <bryce> ../../src/via_driver.h:216: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'pciVideoPtr'
[18:28] <bryce> yeah that looks like a pciaccess issue.  which is why it built fine on my hardy environment but not in the build system
[18:28] <tjaalton> but it doesn't matter if it won't build, since openchrome is the default
[18:28] <bryce> right
[18:28] <bryce> would be nice to have as an alternative though, but oh well
[18:29] <tjaalton> bah, openchrome is a fork of it :)
[18:29] <bryce> ok I'll put in a remove request on it
[18:29] <bryce> well we can dream Via would update it some day, can't we?  ;-)
[18:31] <tjaalton> nah, they should open the specs like they promised
[18:33] <bryce> bug #246676
[18:33] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 246676 in xserver-xorg-video-via "Please remove -via from the archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246676
[18:34] <tjaalton> rock
[18:37] <bryce> tjaalton: did you see #245888 already?
[18:37] <bryce> maybe that one is fixed now
[18:38] <tjaalton> no, compiz is broken on at least i965
[18:40] <tjaalton> the problems in the last messages are the ones that intel/vesa had/has
[18:40] <bryce> this report is for i915, and another with radeon 9200
[18:42] <tjaalton> there  are two bugs upstream about this
[18:42] <tjaalton> and they have been ignored for quitesome time now
[18:42] <tjaalton> +" "
[18:43] <bryce> hm, give me those bugs, and I'll bug my contacts to get them some attention
[18:44] <bryce> but breakfast first.  bbiab
[18:44] <tjaalton> yes, I'll dig them up 
[19:02] <tjaalton> bryce: ok, freedesktop bug 14441 and freedesktop bug 15477
[19:02] <ubottu> Freedesktop bug 14441 in Drivers/DRI/i965 "Compiz shows only black screen on i965" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14441
[19:02] <ubottu> Freedesktop bug 15477 in General "full screen is white when use compiz" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugzilla.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15477
[19:05] <tjaalton> funny that the other bug was filed by an intel engineer..
[19:07] <bryce> thanks
[19:07] <bryce> yeah intel can be weird
[19:08] <tjaalton> :)
[19:19] <bryce> btw, do you know if we have bugs in LP corresponding to these?
[19:24] <bryce> tjaalton: in 14441 from the last comment it sounds like timo found a way to work around the issue?
[19:24] <bryce> his comment is a bit ambiguous though
[19:28] <tjaalton> 245888 is the same as fd.o 15477
[19:28] <tjaalton> added to that bug
[19:29] <bryce> sort of sounds like that one is due to DRI2 changes
[19:29] <bryce> ok, emailed Yong.
[19:29] <bryce> bbiab
[19:30] <tjaalton> yes, something broke DRI1
[19:31] <tjaalton> but when that bug is fixed, 14441 kicks in
[19:43] <bryce> back
[20:54] <tjaalton> bryce: fedora seems to have dropped the "xaa-evict-pixmaps" -patch, probably because XAANoOffscreenPixmaps is now the default
[20:58] <bryce> ok, think we should too?
[20:58] <bryce> does it cause any issues keeping it?
[21:00] <tjaalton> I don't think it makes a difference in one way or another
[21:24] <tjaalton> sweet, input properties
[21:37] <bryce> btw, over this past weekend I worked up a new bug status script thingee
[21:37] <bryce> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Milestones/milestones_current.html
[21:37] <bryce> this one's for milestones, and is not Xorg-specific
[21:38] <bryce> still a WIP.
[22:06] <tjaalton> looks promising