[07:18] Jucato: Grats on 100 [08:09] hi there [08:40] hi. i compiled kopete from trunk but it doesnt allow connecting to jabber via ssl because qca-tls is missing. isnt that part of qt-copy? === emonkey is now known as \emonkey [09:53] hi [09:54] does an german-english english-german dictionary for python, ruby or c++ exist? [09:55] if where i can find it and is it licensed under GPL or comparabel licens? [09:56] apachelogger: maybe you know something about it ^ [09:56] sudo apt-get install ding [09:56] !info ding [09:56] ding (source: ding): Graphical dictionary lookup program for Unix (Tk). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-2ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 90 kB, installed size 412 kB [10:00] apachelogger: thx a lot [10:15] apachelogger: hmm i dont need the things arround i only need a db wich i can use [10:35] Xand3r: then only install the db [10:35] hmm [10:36] to much in there not what i want [10:36] i am searching [10:39] hmm [11:56] apachelogger: i could cry, why i could not compile gtk-qt-engine?! [12:41] morning [13:36] hi vorian [13:36] heya Xand3r :) [13:36] sorry i havent had time to revu your package yet [13:36] nevermind [13:36] nevermina? [13:36] grr [13:37] nevermind, rather? [13:37] mom [13:38] i wanted to say: "Never mind" [13:39] so what did you get wrong? [13:39] do you not want the package reviewed? [13:40] or do you mean, "no problem" or "i can wait as long as it takes" :) [13:40] yea [13:40] oh! OK! [13:40] :) [13:40] you see my english is not the best [13:41] mine english is terrible, don't worry about it [13:41] the sad thing is, I only speak english :o [13:42] vorian i want to create an shell emulator like yakuake only as plasmoid, what knowleg i need for it [13:42] Xand3r: Why a plasmoid? [13:42] then i have it on the desktop or dashboard [13:43] or later i only have the button for it on the panel and than it comes from the left or so [13:43] sebas: is plasmoid not a good idea? [13:44] Depends on what you actually want :) [13:44] That's why I asked [13:44] Usually, you go "I want something that does this", then you decide how it's implemented [13:45] Not "I want to do a plasmoid, dunno what it should do" :) [13:45] (The latter can be useful for learning, of course) [13:45] i know that i want a shell emulator as plasmoid [13:45] so how i do that [13:45] easyest way [13:46] You drop konsole into the window plasmoid :) [13:46] sebas: i have to say that i never programmed [13:46] You can also put a KPart from konsole into a plasma applet of course, and then do the interaction bits [13:47] Then you want to learn programming first I guess [13:47] but i have theproblem everytime i started i stoped cause it began to be boring [13:47] i need somthing where i cann see what i learnd [13:48] so i want to learn with the project [13:48] C++ is probably not a good language to start with though [13:49] i have started with python [13:50] Good call :) [13:51] ^^ [13:51] but i have forgotten the most^^ [13:51] * Jucato hugs C++... the underdog :) [13:51] haha [13:51] * sebas likes C++, too [13:53] i love plasmoids, for me one of the best things in kde4, so i want to practice my knowleg, programming an plasmoid [13:53] some times i have good ideas what is needed but no clue how to do it [13:54] yeah... I know the feeling... :/ [13:55] sebas: may be you can teache me how to implement the konsole to a plasmoid [13:55] with python [13:56] * Jucato was about to say "wasn't there something like that already".. but then saw the "with python" :P [13:57] Jucato: using something what is already there is quit useles if you whant to know how it works [13:59] i have to go, was nice to talk to you folks, c ya [15:14] smarter: i'm getting a failed build with kvpm [15:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/26211/ [15:15] hola [15:15] como estas [15:15] * vorian runs [15:15] you better run! [15:15] ITS NIXTERNAL!!! === nixternal changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Teams | 8.04.1 released | Hug Day Tuesday! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay/20080708 | Congratulations vorian! our newest MOTU member!!! [15:15] ;) [15:16] haha [15:16] thanks :) [15:19] hi [15:19] howdy Xand3r [15:20] howdy vorian [15:21] hey apachelogger [15:22] howdy Nightrose [15:22] hey vorian [15:22] yo Xand3r [15:22] hi nixternal [15:22] aloha apachelogger [15:23] hi Nightrose [15:23] haha [15:23] * Nightrose hugs apachelogger [15:23] * apachelogger is listening to Rocko Schamoni & Jogging Mystique - Der Mond [15:24] apachelogger: please look in the querry [15:26] * apachelogger takes Nightrose for a dance [15:26] yay [15:27] Nightrose: you know that song, right? [15:27] howdy apachelogger and Nightrose and Xand3r and Jucato and Hobbsee and Riddell and vorian and anyone else who is trolling right now :P [15:27] hi nixternal [15:27] * Hobbsee beats nixternal [15:28] * apachelogger hands Hobbsee a cookie [15:28] hahhaa, why? [15:28] no love [15:28] evil highlights [15:28] apachelogger: thanks! [15:28] hob b see [15:28] hahaha [15:28] apachelogger: don't think so :( [15:29] heya nixternal :) [15:29] Nightrose: you shoudl check it out [15:29] k [15:29] <3 rocko schamoni [15:29] ;-) [15:31] * Hobbsee is pondering changing phone carrier. [15:31] which is...not fun. [15:31] lol hi Nightrose! [15:31] er.. hi nixternal! [15:31] Hobbsee: it's like going to the dentist! [15:31] morning [15:31] vorian: a bit. and i should do that next week. [15:31] * Hobbsee also has to get stabbed today :( [15:32] for more not fun things. [15:32] bonjour jjesse [15:32] Nightrose: did tagging work, btw? [15:32] bonjour apachelogger [15:32] apachelogger: yes and no - tagged it as beta1 first... doh! [15:32] fixing now [15:32] alpha is tagged [15:32] Oo [15:32] no stabbing :/ [15:32] apachelogger: that 2.0-beta3 in the dialog is evil ;-) [15:33] oh [15:33] well [15:33] Nightrose: you should have used 1.85 anyway :P [15:33] vorian: damn injections. [15:33] status tags as part of the release version is pretty stupid IMO [15:34] *shrug* [15:34] Nightrose: a package manager doesn't care whether it is alpha or beta or rc, it cares whether the version is higher than the installed one ;-) [15:35] humans always think everything has to think like them :S [15:35] ;-) [15:35] but well [15:35] Xand3r: what's your package again? [15:35] you are the release manager :P [15:35] * vorian is blind today [15:35] vorian: mailody-kde4 [15:36] ah, there it is [15:36] ta [15:37] any reason it's -kde4? [15:38] apachelogger: anything else i need to do besides delete the folder in /tags/amarok/? [15:38] Nightrose: nope [15:38] *deleting [15:38] ok thx [15:38] vorian: it's alpha [15:38] therefore shouldn't replace the KDE 3 version yet [15:38] groovie [15:51] so [15:51] who deleted the amarok2 package from the -kde4 ppa? [15:52] me! muhahahaha! [15:52] i did cause i don't like you [15:52] -.- [15:52] that looks like I have to redo the packging a 3rd time [15:52] yay [15:52] bah [15:53] you can access the old ones [15:55] Hobbsee: where? [15:55] on +archive - there's a filter that you can show all statuses, not just published [15:57] omg [15:57] * apachelogger hugs Hobbsee [15:58] :D [16:05] i start to hate my system, i can bet, if i overwrite the hole system nothing changed [16:05] why ervertime me? [16:07] Xand3r: manpage problem [16:07] this line [16:07] vorian: what is with the man? [16:07] sets the client geometry of the main widget - see man X for the argument format [16:07] sets the client geometry of the main widget \- see man X for the argument format [16:07] aha [16:07] ok [16:08] :) [16:09] Nightrose: you could update the AUTHORS file :P [16:10] apachelogger: i did [16:10] yesterday night [16:10] vorian: that you see such litle mistakes [16:10] Nightrose: Alexandre Oliveira [16:11] alex is not around for >1 year now [16:11] Xand3r: hmm? [16:11] apachelogger: ye i was asked to leave him in [16:11] why?! [16:11] substantial contributions to amarok [16:11] yeah [16:11] don't ask me... [16:11] like a life time ago [16:11] :P [16:11] he is certainly not coming back because his name is in the authors file :P [16:11] true true [16:12] will kick him after 2.0 [16:12] vorian: thx for review [16:17] Nightrose: libvisual still didn't get dropped? [16:17] don't think so no [16:20] ah [16:21] Nightrose: appears strange to me [16:24] d'oh [16:25] amarok crashed [16:26] hm [16:26] Nightrose: I would suggest you activate some kind of crash manager [16:26] * apachelogger doesn't have a bt now [16:27] apachelogger: how? [16:27] Nightrose: use the KDE crash thingy [16:29] having an alpha without simple way to obtain a bt seems rather useless IMHO [16:31] apachelogger: that doesn't really answer the "how?" ;-) [16:32] Nightrose: exactly the other way round how you guys created an overrride for it back in the years :P [16:32] markey probably did it [16:33] * apachelogger recalls that everything that somehow was overriding a KDE default was developed by markey :P [16:33] haha [16:33] no suprise... [16:39] hmm [16:39] vorian: do you have time for a sanity review of the new quassel packaging? [16:40] sure [16:40] vorian: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/quassel/ubuntu [16:41] grabbing [16:42] \o/ [16:42] amarok packaging is mind raping [16:42] :o [16:42] note to self: stay away from that [16:43] good idea :S [16:43] hehe [16:45] apachelogger: you said packaging digikam is like packaging amarok [16:46] apachelogger: you have no pod2man rule for quasselcore-makecert.pod [16:46] Xand3r: well, mindraping ;-) [16:46] vorian: thx [16:46] np [16:47] * apachelogger should do a for loop [16:47] though, I doubt a loop in a make file doesn't look good either ;-) [16:48] apachelogger: do something useful and say me what the problem is betwen the gtk-qt-engine and my system [16:48] _P [16:48] :P [16:49] Xand3r: we could change problems [16:49] you ssh on my machine and package amarok and I ssh on your machine and fix our gtk-qt :P [16:49] ? [16:49] apachelogger: watchfile no workie [16:49] vorian: because we are in prerelease state [16:50] well, there you go :) [16:50] apachelogger: hmm [16:50] that said, I would be happy if quassel was settling on a version schema some time ;-) [16:50] :) [16:51] looks great though [16:51] ok, thank you very much [16:53] :) [16:53] bbl [16:53] -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 4.3M 2008-07-09 17:51 amarok-kde4_1.83-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [16:53] -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 31M 2008-07-09 17:52 amarok-kde4-dbg_1.83-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [16:53] yay! [16:53] ^5 [16:54] Xand3r: I am faster with stupid amarok than you with lovely digikam :P [16:55] apachelogger: yea, now, but you will become old and than .... :P [16:55] uh [16:55] :( [16:56] hm [16:57] what do you people think [16:57] amarok-kde4 OR amarok2? [16:57] Nightrose: ? [16:57] Xand3r: ? [16:57] everyone: ? [16:57] amarok2 [16:57] hmmm otoh [16:58] you might want to go for amarok at one point [16:58] intepid+1 likely [16:58] yes [16:58] that's why I think -kde4 is more appropriate [16:58] yea [16:58] because we will have to provide a transitional package [16:58] yea [16:58] which means that amarok2 package is gonna stick around for some time [17:12] apachelogger: i upload digikam right now on revu, maybe in 40 min you can review it [17:12] :D [17:24] apachelogger: 1/3 of the orig.tar.gz is up [17:24] hi Xand3r [17:24] hi daSkreech [17:49] [16:14:01] smarter: i'm getting a failed build with kvpm [17:49] strange, I just pbuilt it and no problem [17:50] maybe it is the include error that occurs on my system as well? [17:50] * apachelogger notes that some things in intrepid are very strange [17:50] [16:14:17] http://paste.ubuntu.com/26211/ [17:51] I don't understand the error, it looks like some parts of libqt4-dev are missing [17:53] hm [17:53] black magic [17:53] <\sh> there is an include statement missing [17:54] \#include [17:54] \sh: ^ [17:54] <\sh> it wants qprocess [17:54] <\sh> not kprocess [17:54] kprocess probably inherts from qprocess [17:54] <\sh> therefore you need to include qprocess as well [17:54] apachelogger: now it is up [17:54] <\sh> apachelogger: sure...but I don't trust it ;) [17:54] http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKProcess.html [17:54] well [17:55] the thing is [17:55] it build some days ago for me and smarter [17:55] *built even [17:55] and it stills build for me [17:55] (I update my pbuilder #two hours ago) [17:55] * apachelogger doesn't even wanna try [17:55] s/#/~/ [17:55] <\sh> hae= [17:56] <\sh> is there any full build log? [17:56] working build or failed build? [17:57] <\sh> pbuilder --logfile ? [17:57] <\sh> failed build [17:57] <\sh> the other one makes no sense ;) [17:57] * smarter uploads the package to his PPA to see what happens [17:59] Maybe the universe will collapse on itself [18:00] my universe ain't gonna collapse! [18:00] multiverse then? ;) [18:01] hm [18:01] fair enough [18:01] that thing could easily collapse with all the dangerous software in [18:01] Estimated build start: [18:01] in 22 minutes [18:02] -.- [18:02] * apachelogger gets beer and popcorn for tonight's build show [18:02] that's approximately one South Park episode [18:03] * smarter /away for 20 minutes [18:07] apachelogger: *strike* I finally deleted the tag [18:08] release notes and upload next [18:09] apachelogger: here the damn digikam package http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=digikam-kde4 [18:10] please review it [18:10] i need the knowleg building it in the right way [18:12] Xand3r: first, dinner [18:13] apachelogger: ok thx, your the best [18:29] hmm, it FTBFS on Launchpad with the same error than vorian [18:30] * smarter is confused [18:33] i whant to compile a plasmoid but i could not find plasma/widgets/widget.h [18:33] has the place moved or what? [18:33] cause i have the dev package [18:34] do you have libplasmaX-dev? [18:35] smarter: aptitude cant find it, i have hrady btw [18:36] smarter: well include process [18:36] * apachelogger suspects that the cmake thingy is just b0rked somehow [18:37] s/process/qprocess [18:40] hm [18:40] smarter: go write your motu-contribution-wiki-page-thingy [18:41] the cmake is a lie! [18:42] Xand3r: does showfoto really depend digikam? [18:42] apachelogger: yea i asket in the digikam channel [18:42] k [18:43] Xand3r: COPYING.LIB is missing [18:43] apachelogger: ? [18:44] a complete copy of the LGPL [18:45] Xand3r: please tell upstream to add such a thingy [18:46] why i could not copy one in the debian? [18:46] apachelogger: ^ [18:47] because the upstream stuff contains lgpl licensed stuff [18:47] not the debian dir [18:47] ok [18:49] apachelogger: is that the only mistake :D [18:49] Xand3r: dunno [18:49] -.- [18:49] we don't need a new tarball I guess [18:49] but the file should be in SVN [18:50] look in #digikam [18:50] Xand3r: poke someone [18:52] ok [18:53] Xand3r: the manpage copyright is wrong [18:54] ? [18:54] well [18:54] look at the manpage [18:54] you also forgot to add the showfoto.manpage to debian/copyright [18:54] only digikam.manpage listed [18:56] Xand3r: the xpm icons for the debian/*.menu files are missing [18:58] urg [18:59] working [19:01] Nightrose: you should work together with digikam [19:02] analyze pictures and assign them a certain mood [19:02] apachelogger: ? [19:02] ah [19:02] hehe [19:02] anazlye tracks and assign them a certain mood [19:02] yea [19:02] sounds good [19:02] create slideshows with music fitting the pictures [19:16] apachelogger: i have two digikam pics, the 16x16 i have to name digikam-16.png how i make that via *.install? [19:16] huh?! [19:16] for debian/menu files you need xpm icons [19:17] see debian policy about that [19:18] kk [19:41] apachelogger: xpm added, copyright for the manpages setted === serzholino_ is now known as serzholino [19:58] jpds: did you get irssi-plugin-otr uploaded? [19:58] Here are some quick stats for yesterday's bug efforts: [19:58] 13% Confirmed bugs closed/changed [19:58] 4% New bugs closed/changed [19:58] 3% more Incomplete bugs [19:58] 21% more triaged bugs [19:58] \o/ [19:58] triage ftw [19:59] The graphs look nice though, lawl: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuBugDay/20080708#head-da542d40dfa39fd2edcce72d674b3c8bd5da2ed9 [19:59] probably because they only show the top portion of the graph <.< [20:00] Anyway, good job everyone! [20:52] apachelogger: are there more mistakes? [20:52] dunno [20:52] busy with helping NickNak [20:52] Nightrose even [20:52] NickNak: can help you as well, if you want, though ;-) [20:54] apachelogger: are kdesu and kdesudo not linked like gtksu and gtksudo? [20:54] haha [20:55] NickNak: ? what is he doing? [20:57] he's comming over for the party [20:57] Xand3r: did you get that lgpl doc yet? [20:58] vorian: nop [20:58] :/ [20:59] i ask again [20:59] gnomefreak: kdesudo links to kdesu === milian_ is now known as milian [21:00] smarter: why am i hearing one doesnt work [21:00] vorian: apachelogger loded it in the svn [21:00] KDE's stock kdesu has been renamed to /usr/bin/kdesu.distrib [21:00] and it caused some problem in the paste, but nobody use it anymore on kubuntu [21:00] excellent [21:00] double checking [21:06] smarter: user is stating neither kdesu or kdesudo works for him (command not found) [21:07] gnomefreak: if he has kubuntu-desktop, kdesudo is installed [21:07] if not, sudo aptitude install kdesudo [21:09] hes on kde4 so im assuming its kubuntukde4-desktop [21:13] sebas: Nightrose needs a quicky [21:13] ....news [21:13] s/gnomefreak/smarter 16:12 < jb__ > gnomefreak: GENIUS! [21:14] * gnomefreak though smarter deserved that instead of the messenger ;) [21:14]