[00:56] <ryanpg> so... now that the newest intel driver is installed... seems like some interesting things are going on
[00:56] <ryanpg> I'm seeing some interesting visual effects when doing VT switches
[00:57] <ryanpg> definitely a step in the right direction
=== Gumby` is now known as Gumby
[07:46] <teethdood> I'm having probs with dpkg. http://paste.ubuntu.com/26145/  anyone can help?
[07:47] <RAOF> Heh.  You've installed Debian's 2.6.25 kernel at some point?
[07:48] <teethdood> yeah
[07:49] <teethdood> looks like I'll have to create a fake initrd.img file then let it run through
[07:49] <RAOF> Yeah, that'd work.
[07:52] <teethdood> I ran "update-initramfs -k 2.6.25-custom -d -v" the darn thing says "not created by this utility". hmm it doesn't like my fake file
[07:53] <RAOF> One of the options is "take over this initramfs"
[07:56] <teethdood> I added the -t flag (take over this initramfs). same error
[08:00] <RAOF> Eh.  Reinstall the kernel?
[08:02] <teethdood> reinstall 2.6.25? I'd have to install some packages to build that kernel, but dpkg prevents me from doing so :)
[08:02] <RAOF> Whoops.
[08:07] <teethdood> RAOF: anything else I can try?
[08:07] <RAOF> Manual deletion?
[08:08] <RAOF> Alternatively; why is initramfs-tools trying to generaty /boot/initrd.img-2.6.25?
[08:08] <teethdood> I have no clue. I compiled 2.6.25, removed it awhile ago. Everything was peachy until now
[08:09] <RAOF> Is there a /boot/initrd.img-2.6.25?
[08:10] <teethdood> no. it complains that there is no /boot/initrg.img-2.6.25    http://paste.ubuntu.com/26145/
[08:10] <coder2000> anyone know if the kernel panic for 2.6.26 on virtual machines has been fixed?
[08:11] <teethdood> so I created a fake one, but then it says it didn't create it so it couldn't delete it
[08:11] <RAOF> Hm.  Dunno.
[08:12] <teethdood> heh I'm gonna cp 2.6.24-19 to 2.6.25 see what happens
[08:12] <RAOF> It's still going to try to update it, and fail.
[08:13] <RAOF> This is my guess :).  Do you have 2.6.25 in grub, perchance?
[08:13] <teethdood> no I don't
[08:15] <RAOF> Hm.
[08:15] <RAOF> Still, dunno.
[08:16] <teethdood> sudo update-initramfs -k 2.6.25-custom -d -vCannot delete version 2.6.25-custom: Not created by this utility.
[08:23] <teethdood> heh I copied initrd.img-2.6.24-19 over to 2.6.25, then I also had to cp /lib/modules/2.6.24-19 over too for initramfs to run
[08:24] <teethdood> everything is peachy now
[08:49] <BUGabundo> hi guys.
[08:49] <BUGabundo> I'm getting: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_1%3a7.4~0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:01] <Hobbsee> BUGabundo: yes.  there's a fire somewhere in the world too.  why don't you put it out?
[09:02] <Hobbsee> (both are giving about the same levels of information)
[09:03] <BUGabundo> sorry Hobbsee
[09:03] <BUGabundo> I'm discussing this right now on #ubuntu-x
[09:03] <BUGabundo> trying to get the full log on pastbin
[09:04] <Hobbsee> ah, okay.  may as well get them to solve it
[09:04] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26159/
[09:11] <mrtimdog> I've got red and white striped console on boot. I've tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup with various font options but no luck. Any clues as to why this is happening? I can still SSH in to adjust things.
[09:11] <BUGabundo> lol
[09:12] <BUGabundo> me too mrtimdog
[09:12] <BUGabundo> looks like a xtmas tree
[09:12] <BUGabundo> eheh
[09:12] <mrtimdog> That'll be the one :)
[09:15] <Bernardo> hi
[09:17] <Bernardo> on kde4/intrepid, after updating from kde4.1-ppa/hardy, the minimized applications icons are not visible.
[09:18] <Bernardo> I only have white boxes or the panel icon repeated
[09:18] <Bernardo> any idea on which package is broken/not updated?
[10:18] <vhaarr> hey, with the latest xorg updates, gnome-panel and nautilus seems to segfault on startup in libgdk-x11.so or somesuch - anyone know if there's a way to get it working?
[10:29] <vhaarr> Or if not, maybe someone could help me downgrade all the xorg packages, if I had a X up it wouldn't be a problem, but I have trouble doing it all from the tty.
[10:42] <Unksi> vhaarr: xorg is broken atm (topic)
[10:43] <vhaarr> Unksi: ah, darn, thought I read the whole topic before I queried, guess I missed it since I never really used irssi before.
[10:43] <vhaarr> in any case that doesn't really help much.
[10:43] <vhaarr> so, can I downgrade then?
[10:44] <Bernardo> I am guessing the xorg problems are why I don't have application icons in the kde4 system tray applet
[10:44] <vhaarr> the problem I've had with downgrading before is that I have to visit the FTP and manually download all the old deb files.
[10:44] <Unksi> no idea, perhaps if the repos still have old packages or you still have them cached
[10:44] <vhaarr> yeah
[10:44] <Unksi> i think there might be a way to force apt to use a certain version, but dont know how
[10:45] <Unksi> i remember seeing such option at synaptic
[10:45] <vhaarr> indeed, but I don't have access to synaptic at the moment, only the terminal
[10:45] <vhaarr> I have some old packages cached it seems
[10:45] <vhaarr> I'll go try to downgrade
[10:45] <Unksi> yea
[10:46] <Unksi> thats a good idea, hope it works
[10:51] <vhaarr> yep that worked, X started now, I just have to downgrade all the input drivers as well
[10:51] <vhaarr> hang on
[10:55] <vhaarr> Unksi: works fine indeed
[10:56] <vhaarr> thanks for the help so far, I'll quit irssi and hop into X again :)
[11:07] <molgrum> how would i migrate to nouveau instead of nv please? :)
[11:07] <molgrum> i read that it's better
[12:27] <gnomefreak> molgrum: you cant yet. You would need the launchpad PPA for the person that has it built but at this time doesnt matter X is broken so you wouldnt beable to install it successfully even if it was in repos
[13:09] <RAOF> gnomefreak: Actually, X is fixed.  At least, it is for me ;)
=== Hobbsee changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to the home of the Intrepid Ibex, the code name for the next release of Ubuntu due out in October.  For more info, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex | Intrepid is ALPHA software, and we do NOT recommend users upgrade at this time.  Only developers comfortable with very significant instability and recovering from systems which have suffered up to total system failure should consider running Intrepid for now
[13:10] <RAOF> Heh.  'night, Hobbsee :)
[13:10] <Hobbsee> :)
[13:16] <BUGabundo_work> is something wrong with nvidia-settings in Ibex 64bits?
[13:17] <BUGabundo_work> both darkstar.ist.pt and MAIN give an error while downloading
[15:09] <ph8> did i hear the intrepid alpha is out?
[15:11] <ikonia> I can't see it
[15:11] <BUGabundo_work> alpha 1 is
[15:11] <ikonia> is it / where ?
[15:11] <BUGabundo_work> alpha is expected by the end of tommorow or Friday
[15:12] <ikonia> ok, so not yet
[15:12] <BUGabundo_work> @bugabundo: lol forgot to change type=casper to type=fedora lol. reboot
[15:12] <BUGabundo_work> sorry
[15:12] <BUGabundo_work> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/
[15:12] <BUGabundo_work> here it is
[15:13] <ph8> i just installed a kvm copy, bugs all over the place
[15:14] <ph8> gonna report a few
[15:14] <coder2000> I can't get intrepid to run in virtualbox with 2.6.26
[15:14] <coder2000> I get a kernel panic
[15:15] <ph8> is it the BUG: soft lockup one?
[15:15] <coder2000> I don't know.  link?
[15:15] <ph8> it's not a bug yet, i'm just typing it up
[15:16] <coder2000> BUG: unable to handle kernel
[15:16] <ph8> lol
[15:18] <BUGabundo_work> yeah... my intrepid is a bit shaky too
[15:18] <BUGabundo_work> just tried fedora 9, and intrepid daily on inetboot, and both failed to an initram... don't know what's wrong
[15:18] <BUGabundo_work> last week I could boot it...
[15:20] <ph8> i might install hardy and try an upgrade over
[15:20] <coder2000> thats what I did in virtualbox.  I don't have a machine to run it on otherwise.
[15:20] <BUGabundo_work> naaa
[15:21] <BUGabundo_work> I can't go back
[15:21] <BUGabundo_work> lol
[15:21] <Festor> alpha 2 when?
[15:21] <BUGabundo_work> tomorrow or Friday, Festor
[15:21] <BUGabundo_work> see the shedule
[15:21] <Festor> ok, thanks
[15:21] <BUGabundo_work> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule
[15:21] <BUGabundo_work>  July 10th              Alpha 2
[16:02] <hyperair_> will alpha 2 have nvidia working?
[16:06] <BUGabundo_work> hyperair_: I just got a notification of an update
[16:06] <BUGabundo_work> just instaled it... need to reboot to check if it works
[16:09] <hyperair_> seroiusly?
[16:09] <hyperair_> woo
[16:09] <hyperair_> then i can get back to ubuntu
[16:09] <hyperair_> ditch archlinux heheh
[16:11] <BUGabundo_work> hyperair_: why aren't you on ubuntu?
[16:16] <jonpackard> coder2000: Reboot your virtualbox guest a few times.. the error should only happen occasionally
[16:22] <jonpackard> coder2000: also, make sure to stick with kernel 2.6.26.2.. see bug 246067
[16:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot after upgrading to kernel 2.6.26.3-generic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246067
[16:36] <yuriy> anyone able to install nvidia-glx-new on Intrepid?
[16:56] <hyperair_> BUGabundo_work: that's because i refuse to use a compiz-fusion-less system
[17:02] <BUGabundo_work> lolol hyperair_
[17:40] <LSD|Ninja> So I take it all the drivers previously packages by linux-restricted-modules are being repackaged, not just nVidia? Will this mess be sorted out by Alpha 2?
[17:41]  * LSD|Ninja just blacklisted ath5k thinking he could put madwifi in its place easily enough
[17:47] <Unksi> LSD|Ninja: its going to get released tomorrow, i wouldnt build any expectations for that
=== catweazle_ is now known as catweazle
[17:49] <gnomefreak> RAOF: all X packages have been released?
[17:50] <gnomefreak> they have been built already and in PPA's but will be released to archives today or tomorrow (last i heard as of early this morning
[17:52] <gnomefreak> RAOF: they are still held back on the gb archives
[17:53] <gnomefreak> nvidia is still not letting X upgrade im guessing same for other non-free drivers
[17:54] <LSD|Ninja> I'm upgrading now and there aren't any holds this time...
[17:57] <LSD|Ninja> why doesn't the quick search option in Synaptic work btw?
[18:01] <linux__1> hiya ppl is anyone else having problem with wireless i just update and cant get connection back
[18:02] <LSD|Ninja> I've been having wireless tgrouble but it's Intrepid in general, not anything recent
[18:05] <gnomefreak> LSD|Ninja: i can upgrade but it will remove nvidia-glx-new xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt xserver-xorg-video-newport xserver-xorg-video-via
[18:05] <gnomefreak> that makes X useless
[18:05] <linux__1> oh i had no problem until today :-( , look like i will just have to wait
[18:05] <LSD|Ninja> My wireless problems are due to Intrepid forcing ath5k on me and not giving me the option to use madwifi instead >_<
[18:08] <gnomefreak> IIRC madwifi was removed or will be removed
[18:08] <gnomefreak> there is a bug asking to remove it
[18:08] <gnomefreak> oh wait i have someone that knows ;)
[18:08] <LSD|Ninja> typical
[18:09] <LSD|Ninja> It doesn't matter the free driver is a steaming pile the fact it's free means it's OK to remove the non-free one
[18:09] <gnomefreak> im asking atm
[18:09] <gnomefreak> once i check email it should be in there but im kind of tied up with dapper atm
[18:11] <gnomefreak> lol he doesnt know what the outcome of it was but he remembers the topic
[18:15] <jbroome> i have some awesome time speedup with the latest ibex in a KVM.
[18:15] <jbroome> if this keeps up i'll have ubuntu+3 in about an hour
[18:25] <linux1> right wireless problem was caused by the 2.6.26-3 kernel
[18:27]  * gnomefreak wouldnt blame the whole kernel for one module
[18:27] <gnomefreak> or even a package outside the kernel
[18:31] <BUGabundo> hi there
[18:31] <BUGabundo> I seem to have lost the scroll on my touch pad with todays update
[18:31] <BUGabundo> is there a bug for it_
[18:31] <gnomefreak> todays update isnt much to go on
[18:32] <BUGabundo> ohh and I lost my keyb conf....
[18:32] <BUGabundo> hummm
[18:32] <BUGabundo> X11 updates suck
[18:32] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: its not fully done yet thats why if you cant deal with breakage or cant fix it not a good diea to use it
[18:32] <gnomefreak> X is only the first in a series of breakage to come
[18:33] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:33] <BUGabundo> can't wait for it
[18:33] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:33] <gnomefreak> give us a few days we can have your intrepid box fail to load ;)
[18:33] <BUGabundo> I can't set PT keyb
[18:33] <hyperair> hello. does nvidia work yet in intrepid?
[18:33] <BUGabundo> the window just closes when I choose it
[18:33] <gnomefreak> hyperair: no
[18:33] <BUGabundo> hyperair: yes
[18:33] <hyperair> =(
[18:33] <BUGabundo> it installs
[18:33] <hyperair> what?
[18:33] <BUGabundo> but no 3D accel
[18:33] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: it doesnt work
[18:33] <hyperair> lol
[18:33] <gnomefreak> i have 3d
[18:33] <BUGabundo> I have it installed
[18:33] <BUGabundo> just rebooted
[18:33] <gnomefreak> with nvidia but i did that weeks ago
[18:33] <hyperair> in other words it doesn't work
[18:34] <BUGabundo> and am using it
[18:34] <gnomefreak> nvidia is failing to update
[18:34] <LSD|Ninja> OK, that was interesting. Intrepid is either trying to give me a seizure or subliminally download an order to kill Steve Ballmer...
[18:34] <BUGabundo> not to me
[18:34] <hyperair> nvidia-glx right?
[18:34] <BUGabundo> nVidia 8400 am G
[18:34] <BUGabundo> 173
[18:34] <hyperair> i'm using an old one
[18:34] <hyperair> requires nvidia-glx
[18:34] <hyperair> notice the kernel version there
[18:34] <hyperair> what's yours
[18:34] <hyperair> nvidia-glx's is 2.6.24*
[18:35] <gnomefreak> LSD|Ninja: i can upgrade but it will remove nvidia-glx-new xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt xserver-xorg-video-newport xserver-xorg-video-via
[18:35] <hyperair> so no go.
[18:35] <gnomefreak> opps sorry LSD|Ninja
[18:35] <BUGabundo> Linux blubug 2.6.26-3-generic #1 SMP Wed Jul 2 21:54:36 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:35] <gnomefreak> hyperair: read above
[18:35] <seisen> anybody get a white screen after it loads up in the Ubuntu after logging in?
[18:35] <hyperair> gnomefreak what bout nvidia-glx
[18:35] <gnomefreak> hint if it removes a package and doesnt replace it it is broken
[18:35] <hyperair> ah.
[18:35] <hyperair> yes i see it
[18:36] <hyperair> in the dist-upgrade output
[18:36] <gnomefreak> hyperair: give me a minte
[18:36] <BUGabundo> wait for tomorrow
[18:36] <BUGabundo> it should all be build by then
[18:36] <hyperair> for some reason, my nvidia-glx is one version above the nvidia-glx in the repo
[18:36] <hyperair> strange
[18:36] <BUGabundo> no that much
[18:36] <BUGabundo> you might have instaled manually
[18:36] <hyperair> BUGabundo: are you saying that the source packages for nvidia-glx in 2.6.26 are ready?
[18:36] <BUGabundo> or used a PPA
[18:36] <gnomefreak> this is broken http://pastebin.mozilla.org/482152
[18:36] <BUGabundo> don't know
[18:37] <BUGabundo> but I have it installed
[18:37] <hyperair> BUGabundo: no, strange because i didn't get it from a ppa. it came from hardy's repo.
[18:37] <BUGabundo> come throuth jokey
[18:37] <gnomefreak> nvidia-glx isnt the name of the packages it will be nvidia-glx-77 ect...
[18:37] <hyperair> eh?
[18:37] <LSD|Ninja> I'm refraining from touching any of the restricted modules until I know exactly what is going on with them, heh
[18:37] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: i have it installed because i did it before the X changes
[18:37] <hyperair> so it'll be nvidia-glx-96?
[18:37] <gnomefreak> hyperair: and so on yes
[18:37] <BUGabundo> nvidia-173-kernel-source
[18:38] <gnomefreak> there are 4 packages for nvidia-glx-* and thier own r-m packages
[18:38] <gnomefreak> envy may use nvidia-glx but i dont remember
[18:38] <BUGabundo> nvidia-glx ver> 1>96.43.05.
[18:38] <hyperair> i'm using tw.archive.ubuntu.com. guess they're a bit slow
[18:38] <BUGabundo> I have main
[18:38] <BUGabundo> and lrm ppa
[18:39] <hyperair> lrm ppa?
[18:39] <hyperair> what ppa is that?
[18:39] <BUGabundo> the one bryce mention in his email
[18:39] <gnomefreak> here everyone not sure https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-July/025738.html
[18:39] <gnomefreak> read that
[18:39] <gnomefreak> hyperair: https://launchpad.net/~lrm-intrepid/+archive
[18:40] <BUGabundo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
[18:40] <BUGabundo> #deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/timg-tpi/ubuntu hardy main restricted universe multiverse
[18:40] <BUGabundo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lrm-intrepid/ubuntu intrepid main
[18:40] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: fta doesnt have them
[18:40] <BUGabundo> I kwno
[18:40] <BUGabundo> I just did a tail on my sources
[18:40] <BUGabundo> with the keyb set to USA
[18:40] <BUGabundo> things tend to take longer to do..
[18:40] <BUGabundo> and no scroll on thouchpad...
[18:41] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: yours is working because you are using non official sources so please dont say its fixed
[18:41] <BUGabundo> sorry
[18:41] <gnomefreak> yuck i remember why i didnt stick with dapper :(
[18:41] <BUGabundo> I-am using public information mention on the dev ML
[18:42] <BUGabundo> synaptics doesn't tell me from where it came
[18:42] <hyperair> gnomefreak: why?
[18:42] <hyperair> you mean synaptic
[18:42] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: mine aint 100%
[18:42] <BUGabundo> no 3D accell yet
[18:42] <gnomefreak> hyperair: X isnt fixed
[18:42] <BUGabundo> can't get compyz to work
[18:42] <hyperair> synaptics is the driver for laptop touchpads i think
[18:42] <hyperair> BUGabundo: if you don't have 3d accel that means nvidia driver isn't working
[18:42] <hyperair> because nvidia driver comes with 3d.
[18:42] <BUGabundo> sorry
[18:42] <BUGabundo> typo
[18:43] <hyperair> you're either using nv or nouveau
[18:43] <BUGabundo> well, jokey shows it...
[18:43] <hyperair> ...yeah that's because all it cares about is the package manager. i think.
[18:43] <BUGabundo> dunno
[18:45] <BUGabundo> so it seems Ill have to wait for X to be fixed
[18:45] <BUGabundo> bah
[18:45] <hyperair> and it's jockey
[18:45] <hyperair> i'll just sit by in archlinux and wait until it's fixed i guess
[18:46] <BUGabundo> eheh
[18:46] <BUGabundo> trying alphas gets us this
[18:47] <hyperair> yeah.
[18:47] <hyperair> when intrepid comes out i think i'll go reinstall ubuntu or something
[18:47] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:47] <BUGabundo> I-ll have to reinstall with alpha2
[18:47] <BUGabundo> I didn't do a proper dist/upgrade from hardy
[18:47] <BUGabundo> and I still don't have my WiFi intel abgn 4965 working
[18:48] <BUGabundo> lots of ppl have their fixed....
[18:48] <BUGabundo> in my bug report, a commenter mention that it might be the scripts
[18:48] <BUGabundo> and not the kernel...
[18:48] <hyperair> hmm is it possible to connect to a wireless n network from ubuntu?
[18:48] <hyperair> i know b and g are possible
[18:48] <hyperair> but i'm not sure about a and n
[18:49] <DanaG> Odd.. NetworkManager can't do vlans.
[18:49] <hyperair> what's odd about that
[18:50] <DanaG> I mean, I make the vlan interfaces manually with vcontrol, but networkmanager doesn't see them as NICs.
[18:50] <DanaG> s/NIC/interface/
[18:50] <hyperair> well. i don't see networkmanager seeing tun/tap interfaces either so no big deal
[18:51] <DanaG> Having it see tap interfaces was bad when I tried it last.
[18:51] <hyperair> what>
[18:51] <hyperair> it isn't supposed to see them
[18:51] <DanaG> There was one package version that did, during Gutsy or Hardy development.
[18:58] <laughtear> hey buddies,i want to try intrepid ibex, should i or not?
[18:59] <jbroome> no
[18:59] <Unksi> laughtear: if you need to ask that question, no
[18:59] <jbroome> not on your main machine
[18:59] <laughtear> Unksi ok
[18:59] <Unksi> expect severe problems and breakages with it
[18:59] <laughtear> jbroome: why not on my machine? :)
[18:59] <laughtear> ok
[19:00] <laughtear> i have an amd64 3000 and nvidia chipset mainboard, and 2 hdd's and nvidia 6600gt graphic card.... i really wonder about it a lot especially after seeing the screenshots..
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[19:02] <laughtear> now, someone please tell me which one fits best for now (or the least bad..:))
[19:03] <jbroome> uh, what?
[19:04] <laughtear> you've heard.. (read)
[19:05] <jbroome> run hardy 32bit until october
[19:05]  * linux1 is confused
[19:06] <laughtear> jbroome: i now using hardy 64 with almost no problem...
[19:07] <laughtear> sorry for my english...:D
[19:20] <Pici> laughtear: Ibex is not stable and will not be stable until close to release. Unless you are ready to fix any issues that you come accross and log the appropriate bugs, I cannot reccomend that you run it
[19:21] <laughtear> Pici: ok, thank you very much..:)
=== LSD|Ninj1 is now known as LSD|Ninja
[19:38] <shirish> hi all, is anybody having issues with going into GNOME-session?
[19:38] <shirish> for I'm having, can somebody look it up
[19:41] <seisen> I get a white-screen after logging in
[19:41] <seisen> it shows the wallpaper for about 3 seconds
[19:44] <shirish> seisen: welcome to the club ;)
[19:47] <seisen> did you file a bug report shirish?
[19:48] <shirish> seisen: yup, did although don't know if it should have been filed under gnome-session or something else altogether.
[19:48] <seisen> ok
[19:48] <shirish> seisen: bug #247003
[19:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 247003 in gnome-session "gnome-session crashed on Intrepid 8.10 alpha 1+" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247003
[19:49] <shirish> seisen: see if you are having the same issue, if yes, add stuff on top of it.
[19:52] <unstable> Is Intrepid going to have support for doing installs with XFS, and not just ext3?
=== catweazle_ is now known as catweazle
[20:19] <WelshDragon> Hellooo :) Anyone managed to get nVidia drivers working yet?
[20:21] <DanaG> People on forums have, for the 173.something -- but not for older ones.  =(
[20:22] <G_009> there were a few interesting xserver upgrades today
[20:23] <gnomefreak> WelshDragon: its not ready yet
[20:24] <WelshDragon> Hmmm kk.
[20:24] <gnomefreak> WelshDragon: when X gets fixed fully nvidia will be working. in process of changing names and modules
[20:26] <marijus> any one can tell me how to get compiz working with direct rendering on intel i915???
[20:26] <gnomefreak> marijus: hardy or intrepid
[20:26] <marijus> intrepid
[20:27] <gnomefreak> you may have to wait for that
[20:27] <gnomefreak> marijus: compiz most likely is gonna need to be respun on new X packages
[20:27] <marijus> atm i only get white displays... with a working cube tho
[20:28] <WelshDragon> Is there a score which is considered "safe" when using aptitude full-upgrade? Or do the scores have a more indepth meaning?
[20:28] <gnomefreak> that doesnt change my comment
[20:28] <gnomefreak> WelshDragon: use apt-get upgrade only if you are on hardy and upgrading to intrepid dont
[20:29] <gnomefreak> WelshDragon: using dist-upgrade is gonna break your X
[20:30] <WelshDragon> Ok...But what do the scores actually mean?
[20:30] <gnomefreak> WelshDragon: read what they do with the packages that need to be upgrade
[20:30] <gnomefreak> d
[20:30] <gnomefreak> WelshDragon: that should explain it all
[20:31] <gnomefreak> WelshDragon: first score being the best in most cases
[20:31] <DanaG> I use the aptitude UI.
[20:31] <DanaG> sudo aptitude  (no parameters)
[20:31] <marijus> you mean compiling compiz on new X packages? @gnomefreak
[20:32] <gnomefreak> marijus: yes but since X org went through major changes i would expect a bit more work than just re compiling
[20:32] <gnomefreak> but X is first to be fixed since nothing else works without it in  GUI setting
[20:33] <marijus> gnomefreak: ok i see... thank you!
[20:33] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: what is gonna happen with compiz and X? need respin or changes due to X changes
[20:34]  * gnomefreak knew he wasnt here
[20:34] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: why would it need changes for X?
[20:34] <gnomefreak> damn
[20:34] <WelshDragon> fail, heh
[20:34] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: code changes?
[20:34] <Amaranth> white screen is mesa
[20:34]  * gnomefreak not sure how compiz relies on X packages
[20:34] <Amaranth> just like any other window manager or opengl application
[20:34] <marijus> Amaranth: is there a fix in rc-3
[20:35] <Amaranth> marijus: as far as i know it's just a build issue
[20:35] <gnomefreak> we just had mesa updates a day or 2 ago
[20:35] <Amaranth> *shrug*
[20:35] <Amaranth> I'm on OS X
[20:35] <Amaranth> but i know it's not a compiz problem
[20:35] <marijus> we have rc-1... rc-3 was released 2 days ago
[20:36] <gnomefreak> just before X breakage ;)
[20:36] <gnomefreak> or same time
[20:36] <marijus> i mean mesa
[20:36] <Amaranth> probably need to rebuild drivers against the the new X and mesa
[21:33] <coder2000> it seems X was fixed last night.  Although the kernel update didn't fix the issue in VirtualBox.
[21:35] <linux1> and for me theres a problem with the rtl8187 drivers
[21:37] <coder2000> that sux
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[22:08] <gnomefreak> coder2000: problem is all of X isnt fixed, and as for kernel modules you may have to wait until they get l-r-m back to the way they want it
[22:13] <coder2000> its alpha.  I'm not complaining too bad