[00:25] <saivann> asac : I just realised that my thunderbird-locales package for hardy-proposed and for intrepid have the same version number, is that a problem?
[00:25] <saivann> asac : 230209
[00:25] <saivann> asac : bug 230209
[00:26] <asac> saivann: are they uploaded already?
[00:27] <saivann> asac : no
[00:27] <saivann> asac : Current hardy version is 1:2.0.0.0+1-0ubuntu1 and my version is 1:2.0.0.14+1-0ubuntu1. Intrepid does not have that package yet
[00:28] <saivann> asac : Should I change the version number of hardy-proposed to 1:2.0.0.0+1-0ubuntu1.8.04.1 or something like that?
[00:29] <asac> saivann: yes please
[00:29] <asac> we only need hardy-proposed if intrepid hasnt changed yet
[00:45] <saivann> asac : hardy-proposed now have correct version number, links in the bug report are still correct, and intrepid didn't change
[00:46] <saivann> asac : The package still have no build issue and provide all locales without problem
[05:35] <RAOF> Does anyone here know why gnash hasn't been merged from Debian since Gutsy?  If not, I'll just wait for asac to get back.
[07:45] <asac> RAOF: we ave our own branch. update that
[07:45] <asac> instead of doing the merge
[07:45] <asac> in bzr
[07:45] <asac> all is almost prepared so better wait till i return
[07:45] <RAOF> Return from...?
[07:46] <RAOF> Are you at guadec or somesuch?
[08:23] <asac> RAOF: return from travel ;)
[08:25] <RAOF> Right.  So there's nothing useful for me to do about this then.
[08:26] <asac_the_2nd> RAOF: look at the gnash ppa
[08:26] <RAOF> Does gnash _really_ take upwards of 2 hours to build?!
[08:26] <asac_the_2nd> there is a more or less recent snapshot of 0.8.3~pre
[08:26] <asac_the_2nd> RAOF: no. its not that much
[08:26] <asac_the_2nd> but it takes a bit as its all bloody C++ code
[08:26] <asac_the_2nd> not as long as 2 hours ;)
[08:26] <asac_the_2nd> i'd say on a decent system like 10 minutes
[08:27] <RAOF> My AMD64 3500+, with 1GB of ram, buildbox obviously isn't a decent system, then :)
[08:27] <asac_the_2nd> that should be fine
[08:28] <asac_the_2nd> maybe 15 minutes
[08:28] <RAOF> It's taken over an hour so far :X
[08:29] <asac_the_2nd> then you have a different problem
[08:29] <RAOF> Mayhap.
[08:29] <asac_the_2nd> maybe too many applications open
[08:29] <asac_the_2nd> reconnect (old pidgin profile)
[08:34] <RAOF> Anyway, the practical upshot is: don't merge gnash, and probably don't work on updating gnash, at least until you get back..  Have I got that correct?
[08:34] <asac_the_2nd> RAOF, yeah
[08:34] <RAOF> Ok.
[08:35] <asac_the_2nd> RAOF, i tried to cooperate with debian maintainer at some point, but well ...
[08:35] <RAOF> Aren't you one of the debian maintainers?
[08:35] <RAOF> Or is that another asac?!
[08:36] <asac_the_2nd> RAOF, no, i am still listed, but i dont touch that package anymore
[08:36] <armin76> asac the bumber :D
[08:37] <asac_the_2nd> armin76, how many bumbs are you doing in gentoo day-in-day-out?
[08:40] <armin76> lol
[08:46] <asac_the_2nd> RAOF, ok i am doing a test build for 0.8.3 final
[08:47] <asac_the_2nd> pushed bzr branch
[08:47] <asac_the_2nd> ~ubuntu-core-dev/gnash/ubuntu
[09:07] <asac_the_3rd> RAOF, there? could you file a backport  bug for hardy and 0.8.3?
[09:07] <asac_the_3rd> RAOF, and give me bug id ;)
[09:08] <asac_the_3rd> hi XioNoX
[09:08] <asac_the_3rd> how are things going?
[09:08] <XioNoX> hi
[09:08] <XioNoX> very well
[09:08] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, cool
[09:09] <asac_the_3rd> lifewise or also technical wise?
[09:09] <XioNoX>  wise ?
[09:09] <asac_the_3rd> nevermind
[09:09] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, did you manage to auto start the notification thing?
[09:10] <XioNoX> 2sec please
[09:10] <XioNoX> I've just arrived at office
[09:11] <asac_the_3rd> sure
[09:11] <asac_the_3rd> take your time ;)
[09:11] <XioNoX> so
[09:12] <XioNoX> The notification bar works (exept the button), the restart function works, the last modif date check function works
[09:13] <XioNoX> the callback:  restart() of the button didn't work
[09:13] <asac_the_3rd> ok
[09:13] <asac_the_3rd> but all is auto loaded when you run browser, right?
[09:13] <XioNoX> and idem for the autostart/settimeout
[09:13] <asac_the_3rd> how did you solve your gBrowser thing?
[09:14] <XioNoX> the problem didn't come grom gbrowser, i've just set PRIORITY_WARNING_LOW for the priority, and i have to set notificationBox.PRIORITY_WARNING_LOW
[09:14] <XioNoX> ...
[09:15] <asac_the_3rd> oh ;)
[09:15] <asac_the_3rd> fne
[09:15] <asac_the_3rd> fine
[09:15] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, do you need assistance on how to commit things to bzr?
[09:15] <XioNoX> not yet
[09:15] <asac_the_3rd> ok
[09:15] <XioNoX> ho
[09:16] <asac_the_3rd> splitting changes up in multiple commits would be fine... but if your changes are not really massive, one commit would be sufficient too
[09:16] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, commit early and often ;)
[09:16] <asac_the_3rd> hehe
[09:16] <XioNoX> i've create 2 new files in the content folder (the xul & the js), and included the xul in the chrome.manifest
[09:16] <asac_the_3rd> just kidding
[09:16] <XioNoX> I don't know if I did well
[09:17] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, just "bzr add" the 2 new files ... and commit all with a decent commit log
[09:17] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, push it and I'd love to take a look
[09:17] <XioNoX> but it didn't work well and it add a "test bar"
[09:17] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, do you have a launchpad id?
[09:18] <XioNoX> yep
[09:18] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, test bar?
[09:18] <asac_the_3rd> what is a test bar?
[09:19] <XioNoX> I've create a toolbar with 4 button to call/test each function that I've made
[09:19] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, is that a "new" overlay?
[09:19] <asac_the_3rd> if so i'd just commit that and remove the overlay definition from chrome.manifest in commit
[09:20] <asac_the_3rd> doesnt hurt to have the testbar until we have have the feeling that this feature is becoming stable
[09:20] <XioNoX> it start with : <overlay id="launch-bar" xmlns="http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul">
[09:20] <XioNoX> so, yes, maybe
[09:20] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, just comment it in chrome.manifest
[09:20] <asac_the_3rd> and commit the test file in a separate commit
[09:20] <asac_the_3rd> but its ok to have it i guess
[09:20] <XioNoX> https://launchpad.net/~xionox
[09:20] <asac_the_3rd> we can drop it later
[09:21] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, ok so after bzr add FILES; bzr commit FILES1 do a
[09:21] <asac_the_3rd> bzr push bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xionox/ubufox/main
[09:21] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, you need to add your sshkey to launchpad though
[09:21] <asac_the_3rd> (the pubkey)
[09:22] <XioNoX> OpenPGP keys:  	  6829EC39
[09:22] <XioNoX> it is already in my launchpad accound
[09:22] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, if you read carefully you will see that thats an openpgp key ;)
[09:22] <asac_the_3rd> while i talked about _ssh_ ;)
[09:23] <XioNoX> ok
[09:23] <asac_the_3rd> you need it to push to bazaar.launchpad.net through bzr+ssh ;)
[09:24] <XioNoX> done :)
[09:26] <XioNoX> so, I moved to ubufox.main folder on my desktop
[09:26] <XioNoX> what should i do now ?
[09:26] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, did you commit your changes/new files?
[09:26] <XioNoX> nop
[09:26] <asac_the_3rd> (why did you move it to your desktop?)
[09:27] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, then first bzr add NEWFILES
[09:27] <asac_the_3rd> then bzr commit
[09:27] <asac_the_3rd> and document what you did in which file
[09:27] <asac_the_3rd> we have two formats options:
[09:27] <asac_the_3rd> 1.
[09:27] <asac_the_3rd>  * i did this to do that
[09:27] <asac_the_3rd>     - update path/to/file
[09:27] <asac_the_3rd>    - add path/to_newfile
[09:27] <asac_the_3rd> or
[09:27] <asac_the_3rd> 2.
[09:28] <asac_the_3rd>  * path/to/file, path/to/newfile: i did this to do that and in turn i added new file x
[09:28] <asac_the_3rd> would be cool if you could use such a commit message
[09:28] <asac_the_3rd> (though in the end i dont care too much :))
[09:31] <asac_the_3rd> ^^ thats about the commit message
[09:32] <asac_the_3rd> XioNoX, once you committed your changes you can just push with the above command to launchpad
[09:32] <asac_the_3rd> and let me know ;)
[09:34] <asac_the_3rd> ok ... i am off for a bit ... network should come back
[09:34] <armin76> too many asacs
[09:52] <XioNoX> asac, done !
[11:07] <XioNoX> asac, It work !
[11:07] <XioNoX> I need just make it running full time and check periodically
[11:07] <asac> cool
[11:07] <asac> ill look once i have finished what i have been doing here ;)
[11:08] <XioNoX> but I haven't uploaded the last version
[11:09] <XioNoX> Should I do it ?
[11:09] <asac> XioNoX: why not? ;)
[11:14] <XioNoX> To not surchage the poor little server :D
[11:14] <asac> XioNoX: launchpad likes new pushes ;)
[11:17] <XioNoX> Pushed up to revision 96 :D
[11:19] <asac> yay
[11:20] <asac> XioNoX: your email appears to be wrong in bzr ;)
[11:20] <asac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~xionox/ubufox/main
[11:20] <asac> XioNoX: in .bazaar/bazaar.conf
[11:20] <XioNoX> ho yeah
[11:21] <asac> i have:
[11:21] <asac> [DEFAULT]
[11:21] <asac> email = Alexander Sack <asac@jwsdot.com>
[11:21] <asac> XioNoX: feel free to redo your commits if you want the proper credentials
[11:21] <asac> XioNoX: look at what you did to revision 95 ;)
[11:21] <asac> you somehow managed to get the comment line in the commit message ;)
[11:21] <asac> hehe
[11:22] <XioNoX> what ?
[11:22] <XioNoX> I  don't understand
[11:22] <asac> XioNoX: look at the URL ;)
[11:22] <asac> or bzr log
[11:22] <XioNoX> ho yes
[11:22] <XioNoX> -------------- This line and the following will be ignored ------------  ????
[11:22] <XioNoX> this
[11:22] <XioNoX> ?
[11:22] <asac> yeag
[11:22] <asac> yeah
[11:22] <asac> you apparently changed something in that line
[11:23] <asac> otherwise its auto-excluded
[11:23] <XioNoX> yep
[11:23] <XioNoX> I've removed one or two --
[11:23] <XioNoX> did I broke bzr :'( ?
[11:23] <XioNoX> :D
[11:24] <asac> hehe
[11:24] <asac> XioNoX: ok. a comment upfront. UpdateRestart.* ... the other files all start with lower letter
[11:24] <asac> you can use bzr mv to rename them
[11:24] <asac> bzr mv content/UpdateRestart.xul content/updateRestart.xul
[11:25] <asac> of course fixing in chrome.manifest et al would be required ;)
[11:25] <XioNoX> can I edit file in one revision ?
[11:25] <XioNoX> directly through firefox ?
[11:26] <asac> XioNoX: no
[11:26] <asac> XioNoX: you have to bzr mv, change chrome.manifest, commit and push :)
[11:26] <armin76> bzr bumb? :D
[11:27] <armin76> ah no, push :P
[11:28] <asac> XioNoX: anyway. we should go through and clean up function names and such at the end too. so maybe do that later
[11:30] <asac> XioNoX: so next thing is to make this work without the toolbar, right?
[11:30] <XioNoX> done !
[11:30] <XioNoX> yep
[11:31] <XioNoX> in the background, with a periodical check
[11:32] <asac> XioNoX: yes. so the idea is to run "sometime" when the browser startsup (e.g. when the chrome is first loaded)
[11:32] <XioNoX> ok
[11:33] <asac> XioNoX: try to search what options you have for that ;)
[11:33] <asac> i know of a few, but maybe you get better ideas :-D
[11:33] <XioNoX> i've already search
[11:33] <XioNoX> but i don't realy have keyworks :)
[11:36] <XioNoX> each doc i've read talk about something in the menu, statebar, toolbar, ...
[11:37] <XioNoX> but nothing in "background"
[11:38] <asac> XioNoX: on trick might be to just overlay an element somewhere and make it "hidden" :)
[11:38] <asac> but there might be other optiosn
[11:38] <asac> e.g. is the javascript file in the overlay always run?
[11:38] <asac> you could then run the initial timeout just outside of the functions
[11:39] <XioNoX> javascript outside the functions is'nt executed I think
[11:42] <XioNoX> maybe the best is to start by the periodical check
[11:42] <asac> XioNoX: the idea is to schedule the periodical check on startup
[11:43] <XioNoX> why  ? First it start, then it check every 30seconds, mins...
[11:43] <XioNoX> nop ?
[11:44] <asac> XioNoX: ok. try this: create a overlay (just like the toolbar), but make it hidden="true"
[11:45] <asac> then in the element body write javascript code that schedules the timeout
[11:45] <XioNoX> ok,  but the timeout freeze firefox...
[11:45] <asac> XioNoX: why?
[11:45] <asac> it shouldnt
[11:46] <asac> maybe your timeout is too small and thus consumes too much cycles
[11:46] <asac> i think checking every 10 seconds should be good enough
[11:46] <XioNoX> it happend the last time i've try it
[11:46] <XioNoX> i'll check this
[11:47] <XioNoX> can we put many overlay in on xul file ?
[11:50] <asac> make one file per overlay
[12:00] <XioNoX> ok
[12:03] <gnomefreak> can someone please send me the dates and time for meetings my email is fudged up
[12:06] <gnomefreak> ok email is working i think
[12:07] <asac> gnomefreak: ok
[12:10] <gnomefreak> oh well ill get it from mailing list archives i must have lost them when i reinstalled due to everything crashing. Ill be gone this morning for most of it anyway and should be here working on flash this afternoon depending on how bad the storms are and whne they get here. news says they will be severe
[12:19] <XioNoX> perfect :)
[12:19] <XioNoX> (almost)
[12:20] <asac> XioNoX: so what did you do?
[12:20] <XioNoX> window.addEventListener('load', periodically, false);
[12:20] <XioNoX> and function periodically()
[12:20] <XioNoX> {
[12:20] <XioNoX> 	setInterval("checkmodif()", 10000);
[12:20] <XioNoX> }
[12:20] <XioNoX> in the .js file
[12:20] <asac> XioNoX: so outside function?
[12:20] <XioNoX> the xul is only used to call the js file
[12:21] <asac> ok
[12:21] <asac> XioNoX: one thing to remember. you should take care that you dont have multiple timeouts running
[12:21] <asac> s/you dont have/you dont want to have/
[12:21] <XioNoX> just setInterval() is used
[12:21] <asac> so take extrac care that this doesnt happen
[12:22] <XioNoX> it do just what I need
[12:22] <XioNoX> last step, localisation ?
[12:23] <asac> yes
[12:23] <asac> i guess you'll figure?
[12:23] <XioNoX> yep
[12:23] <asac> after that we have to clean up syntax, remove cruft and bogus comments and such :)
[12:23] <asac> e.g. make the code look nicely :)
[12:24] <asac> XioNoX: did you try if touching the notifier file triggers the restart notification?
[12:24] <asac> ... and: does the restart notification disappear after restart (and on subsequent starts)?
[12:24] <XioNoX> i've just move the arrow
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ok sent a mail to  mailing list to make sure times and dates are good for everyone. If i haer back on them this morning while im gone ill set them up this afternoon for fridge
[12:25] <XioNoX> I'll do deeper test
[12:25] <gnomefreak> im gona for the morning
[12:26] <gnomefreak> gone
[12:26] <XioNoX> asac, I go to eat, thanks fo your help, and I'll try to figure out myself for the localisation
[12:34] <asac> XioNoX: bon appetit
[14:33] <XioNoX> asac : Done
[14:34] <asac> XioNoX: no changes for 3 hours ;)
[14:34] <asac> (in bzr branch)
[14:34] <asac> did you push yet?
[14:36] <XioNoX> i'm writing the changelog
[14:39] <XioNoX> pushed
[14:44] <XioNoX> tell me what you think about it
[14:46] <asac> changelog? you mean commit message?
[14:46] <asac> will look as soon as i have a working browser again
[14:47] <XioNoX> ok thanks
[14:47] <XioNoX> where do you work, to have so much time to be there ?
[14:48] <asac> i work here ;)
[14:48] <asac> at home
[14:49] <XioNoX> what work do you do ?
[14:50] <asac> this work ;) ... I am sponsored to work on the ubuntu distro team
[14:50] <XioNoX> ho, nice
[14:52] <asac> so now i can spend my sparetime as well as my business time on working cool things ;)
[14:54] <asac> damn. this firefox thing still crashes ... maybe not because of jemalloc. strange thing
[14:57] <XioNoX> ?
[14:59] <asac> XioNoX: well. we have some issues with jemalloc in intrepid
[15:00] <asac> starting firefox works, opening a new url through commmand line works too, but the process doesnt exit cleanly
[15:00] <asac> instead it segfaults ;)
[15:00] <XioNoX> :s
[15:05] <asac> XioNoX: ok your thing breaks if the notifier file doesnt exist (most likely a not catched exception)
[15:06] <XioNoX> ho
[15:06] <XioNoX> and it can doesn't exist ?
[15:07] <XioNoX> and what do you say by breaks ?
[15:08] <asac> XioNoX: ok. it works. but the date check appears to be wrong
[15:08] <asac> it always reappears
[15:08] <XioNoX> ho ?
[15:08] <XioNoX> what always reapers ?
[15:08] <asac> the notification box
[15:08] <XioNoX> ho
[15:08] <XioNoX> yes
[15:08] <XioNoX> I know
[15:09] <asac> how comes?
[15:09] <XioNoX> I've made the correction while i was writing the commit message
[15:09] <XioNoX> just a > to change in a <
[15:10]  * asac tests
[15:10] <XioNoX> I commit it again ?
[15:11] <asac> why not? :)
[15:12] <asac> XioNoX: please also observe the Error Console if the notification file doesnt exist at all
[15:12] <asac> you should properly deal with that exception so it doesnt appear there anymore
[15:13] <asac> otherwise works fine for now
[15:13] <asac> well done
[15:13] <XioNoX> cool :)
[15:15] <asac> XioNoX: next simple task would be to improve the UI of the plugin finder wizard
[15:15] <XioNoX> ok
[15:15] <asac> (i think that code cleanup should be done once you have a bit more experience)
[15:15] <asac> so we can do a cleanup round after working through the simple tasks ;)
[15:15] <asac> XioNoX: at best start a new branch based on my ubufox branch for this task
[15:16] <XioNoX> wait wait
[15:16] <asac> wait wait?
[15:16] <asac> ;)
[15:16] <XioNoX> for the error message first
[15:16] <asac> yep
[15:17] <Volans> asac: perhaps have you read my email of this night?
[15:19] <XioNoX> asac: i don't see how to remove it, nothing about I/O to check if a file is aviable
[15:25] <Jazzva> XioNoX, if I remember correctly, there should be a fileExists() or similar method...
[15:25] <asac> XioNoX: you can test if it exists like Jazzva said
[15:26] <XioNoX> fileExists() is with activex
[15:26] <asac> XioNoX: look at nsILocalFile interface
[15:26] <XioNoX> var OFS = new ActiveXObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject");
[15:26] <XioNoX> var result = OFS.FileExists("c:\toto\titi.txt");
[15:27] <Jazzva> XioNoX, I did a bit of Java programming in the past weeks. That's the reason for name fileExists :). But check for something similar
[15:27] <asac> XioNoX: err, nsIFile even has it
[15:27] <XioNoX> ok
[15:28] <XioNoX> exists() :)
[15:28] <Jazzva> file.initWithPath( theFile ); if(file.exists() == false)
[15:28] <asac> bingo ;)
[15:28] <Jazzva> :)
[15:29] <asac> well == false is not needed
[15:29] <asac> !file.exists()
[15:29] <asac> is another form
[15:29] <Jazzva> just copy/pasted from some blog :)
[15:29] <Jazzva> http://simon-jung.blogspot.com/2007/10/firefox-extension-file-io.html
[15:29] <asac> ha
[15:29] <asac> thought only .php code was written by copy/paste-only+
[15:30] <Jazzva> Not writing at the moment ;)...
[15:31] <Jazzva> asac, I'll be off again for few days. Just found out that my DSP exam is around 14th July (instead of 19th), and that I need to send my homework tonight (or by tomorrow). And there's system programming exam on this Sunday.
[15:31]  * Jazzva sighs...
[15:31] <Jazzva> I'll be around, but not really active...
[15:32] <asac> Jazzva: fine. get your study going ;)
[15:32] <Jazzva> Ok... see you later :)
[15:34] <XioNoX> asac : Pushed up to revision 100.
[15:34] <XioNoX> 100, it is the good one :D
[15:34] <asac> yeah ;)
[15:39] <XioNoX> what now ?
[15:39] <XioNoX> I haven't understand the : "at best start a new branch based on my ubufox branch for this task"
[15:40] <asac> XioNoX: rename the current branch in launchpad from "main" => "main.restart-on-update"
[15:40] <asac> XioNoX: and work on a new branch for this new feature
[15:40] <asac> e.g. topic-branches
[15:40] <XioNoX> and how did i do that ?
[15:41] <asac> XioNoX: renaming? you can do that in launchpad website
[15:41] <asac> code.launchpad.net/~xionox
[15:41] <asac> from there
[15:41] <asac> XioNoX: then just branch a new branch from my branch and work on that for the plugin finder
[15:41] <asac> e.g. to branch a new branch, do : bzr branch lp:ubufox
[15:42] <asac> maybe give it a good name like bzr branch lp:ubufox ubufox.pluginfinderpolish
[15:42] <asac> :)
[15:43] <asac> XioNoX: understood?
[15:43] <asac> :-D
[15:43] <XioNoX> absolutly not :)
[15:44] <Volans> XioNoX: see http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/index.html ;)
[15:44] <asac> XioNoX: ok. its simple: 1. forget about your current branch
[15:44] <Volans> it's a Bazaar in 5 minutes how to
[15:44] <asac> 2. start from the ubufox main branch again: bzr branch lp:ubufox
[15:45] <asac> 3. push that using a different name then the "restart notification" branch ;)
[15:46] <asac> maybe 2a. work on the plugin finder improvements in the ubufox branch
[15:48] <XioNoX> you know what mean "bazar" in french ?
[15:49] <asac> bazaar ;)
[15:52] <asac> RAOF: https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnash/+archive ... hardy package is there
[15:52] <asac> RAOF: intrepid doesnt build apparently
[15:52] <asac> most likely configure option is wrong
[15:59] <XioNoX> asac : so I do a bzr branch https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/ubufox/main plugin.finder ?
[15:59] <XioNoX> to get a clean new branch ?
[16:00] <XioNoX> and then I'll do an bzr push bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xionox/ubufox/plugin.finder ?
[16:06] <asac> XioNoX: right
[16:06] <asac> XioNoX: that was what i was trying to explain to you ;)
[16:06] <XioNoX> Branched 94 revision(s).
[16:07] <asac> XioNoX: maybe rename the other branch to something more verbose as well
[16:07] <asac> (e.g. main => restart notifier) ;)
[16:08] <XioNoX> how does I rename branch ?
[16:08] <asac> XioNoX: in launchpad
[16:08] <asac> XioNoX: you can even add summary and descriptino there ;)
[16:08] <asac> XioNoX: just visit your branch in launchpad and you can edit details
[16:08] <asac> and so on
[16:08] <asac> play around with the interface a bit ;)
[16:10] <XioNoX> done
[16:11] <asac> XioNoX: ok. the other is not pushed yet, right?
[16:11] <XioNoX> nop
[16:11] <asac> XioNoX: maybe flag your branch as "experimental" in lauchpad ;)
[16:11] <XioNoX> there a nothing new
[16:11] <asac> (currently its "New") :)
[16:11] <XioNoX> you want to say mature, no ?
[16:11] <XioNoX> :D
[16:12] <asac> XioNoX: mature are usually stable maintenance branches
[16:12] <asac> XioNoX: i dont do stable maintenance on the "main" branch atm. only on the packaging branches
[16:12] <XioNoX> it is totally stable :)
[16:12] <asac> so the lp:ubufox is "Development" ;)
[16:12] <asac> XioNoX: hehe
[16:13] <XioNoX> done
[16:13] <asac> good
[16:14] <asac> Jazzva: can you set status of your ubufox branches to either Merged or Abandoned?
[16:15] <Jazzva> asac, sure. I'll set them to Abandoned, as there's no current dev going on there :)
[16:15] <asac> Jazzva: i think i merged in most of the changes you did ... so maybe use merged
[16:15] <asac> but it doesnt really matter ;)
[16:15] <asac> the goal is to make them disappear from the https://code.edge.launchpad.net/ubufox
[16:15] <Jazzva> asac, you did.
[16:15] <asac> page :)
[16:16] <XioNoX> asac, now that i've done the harder part (bzr) it remain the developpement
[16:16] <asac> hehe
[16:16] <asac> XioNoX: yeah. do you know how to trigger the plugin finder wizard?
[16:16] <XioNoX> i've no informations in my wiki page
[16:17] <asac> XioNoX: ok. there are two test pages in the ubufox sources
[16:17] <XioNoX> in the cataloge
[16:17] <asac> ubufox/pfs/test/2_multicontent.html
[16:17] <asac> ubufox/pfs/test/1_singlecontent.html
[16:17] <asac> XioNoX: the multicontent has a flash +  a movie content
[16:17] <asac> the single has just flash
[16:17] <asac> in order to trigger it, uninstall the plugins that serve those mime types from your system
[16:17] <asac> (e.g. apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree)
[16:18] <asac> and remove any eventual plugin from your profile
[16:18] <XioNoX> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:18] <asac> then you can visit those test pages and click on either a puzzle piece ... or a the "Install Missing Plugins ..."
[16:18] <XioNoX> remove flash ! how will i survive ?
[16:18] <asac> XioNoX: hehe
[16:18] <asac> XioNoX: you can reinstall it when you need it or when you have finished that development
[16:19] <asac> its just to test ;)
[16:19] <asac> actually the plugin finder service will suggest you to install flash :)
[16:19] <Jazzva> asac, done.
[16:19] <XioNoX> i'm on 64bits
[16:19] <asac> Jazzva: thanks
[16:19] <Jazzva> np
[16:19] <asac> XioNoX: yeah. will work too
[16:19] <asac> XioNoX: just use the ubuntu packages and ubufox
[16:20] <asac> XioNoX: once you see the plugin finder service and managed to install flash through it let me know ;)
[16:21] <XioNoX> i use a particular package with the flash 10 beta
[16:21] <asac> XioNoX: for testing the version shouldnt matter
[16:22] <XioNoX> i've no more flash in about:plugins
[16:22] <XioNoX> but the 2 pages stay blank
[16:22] <asac> XioNoX: did you uninstall?
[16:22] <asac> or disable?
[16:22] <XioNoX> uninstall
[16:23] <XioNoX> the test page dodn't work
[16:23] <XioNoX> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[16:23] <XioNoX> no apropriate plugin was found
[16:24] <asac> XioNoX: i think thats a different mime-type
[16:24] <asac> XioNoX: try http://wetter.rtl.de/
[16:25] <asac> the testpages might not work in firefox 3 anymore ... i think it now checks if the files are really available that are referenced
[16:25] <XioNoX> ok
[16:25] <XioNoX> 3 choice
[16:25] <asac> XioNoX: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/pfs/test/
[16:25] <asac> do those work better?
[16:25] <XioNoX> nop
[16:25] <asac> ok
[16:25] <XioNoX> http://wetter.rtl.de/ works
[16:26] <asac> yeah. i am concerned about the multi case too. but lets go for flash only then for now
[16:26] <XioNoX> witch of those do you want that i install ?
[16:26] <asac> XioNoX: doesnt matter. whatever you prefer. the idea is that you get a feeling about what is currently done
[16:27] <XioNoX> the apturl windows don't show in the taskbar !
[16:27] <XioNoX> anoying
[16:27] <asac> XioNoX: yeah. thats one of the things that are annoying ;)
[16:27] <asac> XioNoX: the other is that the ffox UI is blocked and doesnt redraw while installing
[16:28] <XioNoX> yep
[16:28] <XioNoX> we have to restart firefox after it is installed
[16:28] <asac> XioNoX: no
[16:28] <XioNoX> reloading the page is'nt anough
[16:28] <asac> XioNoX: it should work
[16:28] <XioNoX> no for me
[16:28] <asac> XioNoX: are you using ubuntu ffox?
[16:29] <XioNoX> yep
[16:29] <asac> then its a new bug in ffox code base
[16:29] <asac> i fixed it at some point before RC1
[16:30] <XioNoX> and if i remove the plugin, but i don't restart firefox, and i go on a flash page, i don't see the notification bar
[16:31] <asac> XioNoX: those are bugs in ffox. i will look into the "not-reloading automatically"
[16:31] <asac> XioNoX: so just assume it works ;)
[16:31] <asac> XioNoX: so the initial thing to do is to improve the list of options that can be installed
[16:31] <asac> the idalog
[16:31] <XioNoX> even if i reload the flash don't appera
[16:32] <XioNoX> appear
[16:32] <XioNoX> i have to restart firefox
[16:32] <asac> XioNoX: yes. thats ok for now ;)
[16:32] <XioNoX> ok
[16:32] <XioNoX> improve the list of options ?
[16:32] <asac> XioNoX: so the dialog currently only displays "name" and a hint that its a ubuntu package
[16:33] <asac> i would like to make the entries look similar to what you see in "Get Extensions"
[16:33] <asac> in the Tools -> Addons dialog
[16:33] <asac> XioNoX: for now, we should at least add a description there
[16:34] <XioNoX> ok
[16:34] <asac> XioNoX: and maybe try to improve the appearence by using alternating backgrounds for items
[16:35] <asac> if you have other suggestions feel free to suggests them
[16:35] <XioNoX> ok
[16:35] <asac> from a functional POV we need the description
[16:35] <asac> everything else is nice-to-have ;)
[16:35] <XioNoX> POV ?
[16:35] <asac> point of view
[16:35] <XioNoX> ok
[16:35] <asac> XioNoX: look for the code that gets the plugin information from the webserver
[16:36] <asac> there you will see how the Name is extracted from the search results
[16:36] <XioNoX> what is the file of this windows ?
[16:36] <asac> XioNoX: search for pluginFind*
[16:36] <asac> in the tree
[16:36] <XioNoX> pluginInstallerWizard.xul/js
[16:36] <asac> all those
[16:37] <XioNoX> there are no pluginfind
[16:37] <asac> XioNoX: yeah. i mistyped
[16:37] <XioNoX> ok
[16:37] <asac> the names of the things should be more or less obvious
[16:37] <asac> ;)
[16:39] <XioNoX> there are a lot of lines :/
[16:39] <XioNoX> :D
[16:40] <asac> XioNoX: yeah.
[16:40] <XioNoX> where does come the french translation ?
[16:41] <asac> XioNoX: in the french .properties?
[16:41] <XioNoX> there are only few lines in the /locale/fr-FR
[16:41] <XioNoX> nop
[16:41] <asac> and .dtd
[16:41] <XioNoX> nop
[16:41] <asac> XioNoX: thats all we have
[16:41] <asac> XioNoX: some strings are translated in firefox/xulrunner
[16:42] <asac> on top of that we dont have that many ... so what is in fr-FR is probably complete
[16:44] <XioNoX> 2 things to do at least, add a description and using an alternative background
[16:44] <XioNoX> ?
[16:45] <asac> XioNoX: alternative background is nice-to-have.
[16:45] <asac> XioNoX: first add the features. then feel free to suggest UI improvements that you see fit
[16:45] <XioNoX> the plugin recherche windows, if rom ubufox of firefox ?
[16:45] <asac> XioNoX: they are all in the ubufox
[16:45] <asac> so everything you need is in ubufox source code
[16:45] <XioNoX> ok
[16:46] <asac> XioNoX: the results are added in javascripts by adding xml elements manually
[16:46] <asac> thats the main reason why there is so much code
[16:46] <XioNoX> i'll try to understant all of this
[16:46] <asac> XioNoX: yeah
[16:46] <asac> read a bit the code
[16:47] <asac> its certainly not really beautiful code ;)
[16:49] <asac> XioNoX: the Datasource parses the results from webservice and puts the received data in a pluginInfo object
[16:49] <XioNoX> ok
[16:49] <asac> look at line 126 where this is done
[16:49] <asac> so basically you would need to add a new data field "Description" there
[16:49] <XioNoX> var pluginInfo = {
[16:50] <asac> yeah
[16:50] <XioNoX> ok
[16:52] <asac> XioNoX: the loop that adds the result xul elements is in Wizard.js at line 220
[16:52] <XioNoX> for (var i = 0; i < pluginInfoSet.length; i++) { ?
[16:52] <asac> XioNoX: in case the pluginInfo.description == null, just use "No Description available" for now
[16:52] <asac> yeah
[16:53] <asac> i think that info should help for now ;)=
[16:53] <asac> XioNoX: play around a bit with the javascript code there to modify how the results look like ;)
[16:53] <XioNoX> okok
[16:53] <asac> e.g. you probably see how xul elements are created, how attributes are set and how the xul elements are added to their parent elements and such
[16:54] <asac> ;)
[16:54] <XioNoX> yep
[16:54] <XioNoX> tomorrow will be only code analysis I think
[16:55] <asac> XioNoX: ?
[16:56] <XioNoX> I think that i will try to understand the code during all the day :D
[16:56] <asac> XioNoX: nah, its rather simple. try to understand the loop above
[16:56] <asac> you can basically read it like a book ;)
[16:56] <XioNoX> ok
[16:56] <asac> 1st. create table
[16:57] <asac> then set attribute class="plugin-row-table on that element
[16:57] <asac> 2nd. create a tr element and add a css class attribute too
[16:58] <asac> 3rd. create a radio button xul element in a table-cell (td) and append that to the row ;)
[16:58] <asac> and so on
[16:58] <XioNoX> ok
[17:01] <asac> XioNoX: try to add a new td with just a bit text in it _before_ the distributorImage td ;)
[17:01] <asac> that should be easy enough to get the idea ;)
[17:01] <XioNoX> I xas more thinking about adding a new line under
[17:01] <XioNoX> or 2 or 3
[17:01] <XioNoX> but not on the right
[17:02] <asac> XioNoX: yeah. its just easiest to add a single td ... this is just for test ;)
[17:02] <XioNoX> es, i agree
[17:02] <asac> the final solution will surely look different
[17:02] <asac> XioNoX: i just want to be sure that you got the idea ;)
[17:02] <XioNoX> maybe using a flag
[17:02] <asac> so you can work on your own on eventual layouts
[17:03] <XioNoX> first turn, flag at false : name, icon, ...
[17:03] <asac> XioNoX: but i would put more than half a day in that work. lets get a small improvement for now and then go on
[17:03] <asac> we can circle back once you have more experience and do real amazing stuff ;)
[17:04] <asac> or a day :)
[17:05] <XioNoX> ok
[17:15] <XioNoX> I go
[17:15] <XioNoX> see you tomorrow
[17:15] <XioNoX> bye
[17:34] <Volans> asac: the bug 243064 can be related to you and mozillateam?
[17:34] <Volans> I don't have my Dapper on now and can't confirm it, but if you need I can check
[17:37] <asac> Volans: thanks
[17:38] <Volans> at first sight I think is not website related
[17:39]  * Volans starting dapper... 
[17:40] <asac> Volans: why 604?
[17:40] <asac> thats wrong
[17:40] <asac> should be 606 :(
[17:40] <asac> Volans: does Help -> Release Notes really point to that page?
[17:41] <Volans> I'm trying, little boot problem on dapper
[17:45] <Volans> dapper loaded... starting firefox...
[17:51] <RzR> hi
[17:52] <RzR> are dapper backports still possible ?
[17:53] <gnomefreak> yes
[17:53] <gnomefreak> until EOS
[17:54] <Volans> asac: I don't find the item...
[17:54] <gnomefreak> i think next year ~april is EOS for dapper desktop (only server packages after that
[17:54] <Volans> Requesting the release notes (Help->Release Notes)... where is it?
[17:54] <RzR> humm I think I am going to fill a bug on this
[17:54] <gnomefreak> Volans: its not in the help menu?
[17:54] <asac> Volans: is there no menu entry for release notes in dapper?
[17:54] <Volans> help of Firefox or System-Help of Ubuntu^
[17:54] <Volans> ?
[17:54] <gnomefreak> firefox
[17:54] <RzR> file a bug :) not fill a glass of beer :)
[17:55] <asac> ffox
[17:55] <gnomefreak> RzR: whats wrong with backports being open?
[17:55] <asac> RzR: what kind of dapper backport do you want?
[17:55] <gnomefreak> please dont say ff 2 or 3
[17:55] <RzR> a usb modem driver
[17:55] <Volans> yeaI have "Note di versione" that is the italian translation of Version note and point to www.mozilla-europe.org/.......
[17:55] <RzR> dapper is the only distro that support it today
[17:55]  * gnomefreak wonders what bugs will be brought in with that
[17:56] <Volans> sorry
[17:56] <RzR> unicorn if curious
[17:56] <Volans> I have 2 FF
[17:56] <asac> RzR: better ask for that driver to be ported to hardy ;)
[17:56] <gnomefreak> Volans: in dapper?
[17:56] <RzR> asac: I wish I can
[17:56] <Volans> yeah, is the FF2 manually installed, sorry
[17:56] <Volans> mistake
[17:56] <RzR> asac: but there are compiled blob ...
[17:56] <gnomefreak> Volans: ill install dappers ff in chroot and test
[17:56] <RzR> asac: the code need to be reversed .. too much pain for that
[17:56] <gnomefreak> shit or i wont
[17:57] <gnomefreak> Volans: asac ill build the chroot than install and test
[17:57] <RzR> asac: the objects are compiled w/ incompatible regparm flag
[17:57] <asac> ok
[17:57] <RzR> asac: I lost half of my life on this driver , I give up now :)
[17:57] <asac> i doubt that there are many volunteers doing backports to dapper
[17:58] <asac> but who knows ;)
[17:58] <RzR> asac: probally not but I feel missionned to open this bug :)
[17:58] <gnomefreak> RzR: most likely it wont happen if it cant be in any  other version. dapper even backports needs to stay as stable as possible
[17:59] <RzR> if I open the bug, we'll see if it worth  the effort if users ask for it
[17:59] <asac> ack
[18:00] <Volans> asac: the Help -> Version note point to mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.12eol.html
[18:00] <asac> no release notes menu entry?
[18:00] <asac> Volans: maybe the guy refers to a link that is on the default homepage?
[18:00] <asac> e.g. the ubuntu one?
[18:03] <Volans> I don't know, I can ask for more information replying to the bug?
[18:03] <gnomefreak> it doesnt bring you to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/804
[18:04] <gnomefreak> take 804 and change it with 150 or whatever
[18:06] <gnomefreak> http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/releasenotes/606
[18:06] <Volans> gnomefreak: probably you are right is this problem
[18:06] <gnomefreak> that is right link
[18:06] <gnomefreak> im looking at the page atm
[18:06] <gnomefreak> http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/releasenotes/  lists all of them
[18:06] <Volans> but the question is... from where the user arrived there?
[18:06] <asac> Volans: just ask to clarify
[18:06] <asac> we cannot really guess what he wants
[18:06] <gnomefreak> Volans: i wont know until its done maybe 30 minutes or so
[18:07] <asac> maybe he just complains that that url doesnt exists and misses the point that it should be 606
[18:07] <asac> not 604
[18:07]  * gnomefreak hasnt looked at bug ;) im going on what i read here until i have time to see bugs
[18:08] <gnomefreak> asac: was madwifi removed from archives yet? last i saw there was a bug asking it to be removed
[18:10] <asac> not sure what the outcome was
[18:10] <asac> but i remember that there was discussion
[18:10] <Volans> asac: If I change status from new to incomplete the alert arrive also to the author?
[18:10] <asac> yes
[18:10] <gnomefreak> me too but i dont rtemember maybe ill look for bug when im get caught up
[18:11] <asac> Volans: but you should always tell the user what info is missing ;)
[18:11] <Volans> I have write this in the optional comment
[18:11] <Volans> of the change status form
[18:11] <asac> ok
[18:11] <gnomefreak> can i have bug number for dapper ff bug please
[18:12] <asac> Volans: usually you type that in the comment field right under the package not the bottom one
[18:12] <asac> but if you did it, just change to incomplete :)
[18:12] <asac> if you are quick enough the user will receive only one mail
[18:12] <asac> with all changes accumulated
[18:13] <Volans> gnomefreak: if you tell about the bug I have signaled id the bug 243064
[18:14] <Volans> asac: not sure to have understand you
[18:14] <Volans> what do you mean?
[18:14] <gnomefreak> thanks
[18:14] <asac> Volans: dont mind ;)
[18:14] <asac> not important
[18:14] <gnomefreak> asac: he means if you do the changes close enough together only 1 email for both changes will be sent
[18:15] <gnomefreak> gedits find/replace function needs to accept wildcards
[18:17] <gnomefreak> no ddeb repos for dapper :(
[18:26] <gnomefreak> chroots built installing ffox
[18:42] <gnomefreak> i have release notes in help menu
[18:43] <gnomefreak> and it points to 6.4
[18:43] <gnomefreak> 604
[18:43] <gnomefreak> this is 1.5.0.12eol
[18:43] <gnomefreak> Requested Page: getubuntu/releasenotes/604
[18:43] <gnomefreak> Referring Page:
[18:43] <asac> hmm
[18:43] <asac> ok
[18:44] <asac> gnomefreak: please remind me every day about this ;)
[18:44] <gnomefreak> lol whos gonna remind me
[18:44] <gnomefreak> ill try
[18:44] <asac> so i dont forget to fix it in security update that i am currently preparing ;)
[18:44]  * gnomefreak has lots of shit to do maybe ill get most out of way today
[18:45] <gnomefreak> than ff slack builds
[18:45] <gnomefreak> and not slackware
[18:45] <asac> slack?
[18:48] <gnomefreak> yes gutsy backports
[18:48] <gnomefreak> not ergent
[18:48] <asac> k
[18:48] <gnomefreak> where the hell am i gonna find gutsy testers :(
[18:49] <asac> RAOF: i think gnash should bge fine soon in ppa: https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnash/+archive
[18:49] <asac> intrepid is building. please confirm that its working so i can upload
[18:51] <gnomefreak> Malformed patch header.  No orig name
[18:51] <gnomefreak> '\n'
[18:51] <gnomefreak> that has really got to be fixed
[18:51]  * gnomefreak wonders if seb is around
[18:52] <gnomefreak> asac: who else is another desktop dev to talk to other than seb128
[18:53] <asac> gnomefreak: on which topic?
[18:53] <gnomefreak> opening txt files without .txt extensions
[18:53] <gnomefreak> btw page opens fine
[18:53] <Volans> I have to go... bye bye
[18:53] <gnomefreak> the PPA you asked about in #lp
[18:55] <asac> gnomefreak: i doubt that you have access to launchpad error log ;)
[18:55] <asac> better wait for cprov to give me heads up ;)
[18:55] <gnomefreak> i dont but it opens for me
[18:56] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah. because its cached in launchpad memory now
[18:56] <gnomefreak> you are on pre release lp or main lp?
[18:56] <gnomefreak> asac: ah
[18:56] <asac> if you wait an hour and noone else has tried to open you will get the timeout i guess
[18:56] <gnomefreak> and you did use edge too
[18:56] <asac> sure
[18:56] <asac> i use edge ;)
[18:56] <gnomefreak> me too and not happy about left handed everything
[18:56] <asac> well
[18:56] <gnomefreak> but welcome to new UI
[18:56] <asac> its just a matter of getting used to it
[18:57] <asac> probably would have been the right thing to do in the beginning
[18:57] <gnomefreak> well i cant wait to see what they mean by shiny new ui
[18:57] <asac> gnomefreak: i have no idea. i thought that the current layout _is_ the new UI ;)
[18:58] <asac> not sure if there will be significant changes being done soon
[18:58] <gnomefreak> asac: not what i was told i was told its just teh beginning
[18:58] <asac> oh.
[18:58] <gnomefreak> im guessing 2.0 is the new ui but we will see
[18:58]  * asac eagerly awaits those great changes
[18:58] <asac> yeah
[18:59] <gnomefreak> asac: btw major networking screw ups in Intrepid im hearing
[18:59] <asac> lets hope the breakage that beta users experience is less than what we had when we switched to new layout last time ;)
[18:59] <asac> gnomefreak: most likely individual cases ;)
[18:59] <gnomefreak> i know its not you but letting you know incase n-m gets fudged up as well
[18:59] <asac> for me it works
[18:59] <asac> but i am running old kernel ;)
[18:59] <asac> hehe
[18:59] <gnomefreak> asac: kernel + wireless im hearing
[18:59] <gnomefreak> maybe 4 or so people bitching about it in #ubuntu+1
[19:00] <asac> ok let me reboot. i wanted to try latest kernel since i received two updates since last reboot ;)
[19:00]  * gnomefreak lost interest when people were saying X is fixed but they are not using our repos they are using PPA
[19:00] <gnomefreak> asac: if on nvidia dont use dist-upgrade
[19:00] <asac> maybe that also cures my wierd ffox with jemalloc crashes here
[19:00]  * asac reboots
[19:00] <gnomefreak> good luck
[19:00] <gnomefreak> ill be back in a few minutes
[19:06] <asac> ok so the kernel is borked
[19:06] <asac> trying safe-mode right now
[19:08] <gnomefreak> what about it is broken?
[19:09] <asac> ok radeonhd is better than fglrx ;)
[19:10] <asac> hmm. ... my hardware beeper thing makes noise
[19:12] <gnomefreak> low on memory type beeping?
[19:14] <gnomefreak> remind me why pulse audio is a good thing :(
[19:16] <asac> yeah
[19:16] <asac> sounds like when in old times the keyboard buffer was full and you hit a key ;)
[19:18] <gnomefreak> that is way too annoying to deal with
[19:18] <asac> let me check if sound works at all ;)
[19:18]  * asac turns on amplifier
[19:18] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm change a version in control and get an error I HATE ALSA
[19:19]  * gnomefreak smacks self
[19:19] <gnomefreak> or not
[19:19] <asac> still no sound
[19:19] <asac> ill reboot ... this sound makes me feel bad
[19:19] <asac> back to hardy kernel
[19:19] <gnomefreak> nano sucks
[19:19] <asac> right ;)
[19:20] <asac> and it only came to light because vi is too difficult :(
[19:22] <armin76> bumb
[19:22]  * armin76 hides from asac
[19:22] <asac> armin76: lets upload emacs 99.99 and announce "bumb" day
[19:22] <asac> to both ubuntu and gentoo ;)
[19:23] <asac> and firefox 7.0
[19:23] <armin76> lol
[19:23] <asac> as well as kde 10.6 and gnome 100.1
[19:23] <asac> a good aprils fool actually ... next time il upload ffox 9.0 ;)
[19:23] <asac> and then bumb epoch the next day so we get back to 1:3.1
[19:24] <asac> 9.04.1
[19:24] <asac> for april 1 2009
[19:26] <asac> BA told me that i am going through terminal 5 to canada and that there are no guarantees that i can reach connection flights within 2 hours :(
[19:26]  * asac thought terminal 5 is a new terminal, build to improve things :(
[19:28] <asac> segfault :(
[19:28] <asac> armin76: do you use libjemalloc?
[19:29]  * gnomefreak down to 2 builds at a time
[19:32] <armin76> asac: yeah
[19:33] <asac> armin76: do you split xul + ffox?
[19:35] <armin76> yeah
[19:35] <armin76> but is not mandatory
[19:36] <asac> armin76: so how do you do it in split scenario?
[19:36] <asac> are you using shared library?
[19:36] <armin76> hrm..no
[19:37] <asac> armin76: he?
[19:37] <asac> so in split case you dont use it?
[19:39] <armin76> uh...not sure :P
[19:39] <armin76> i do it the same way as you do
[19:39] <asac> armin76: strace -f -eopen firefox 2>&1 | grep jemalloc
[19:40] <asac> ok, then you dont use it :(
[19:40] <asac> armin76: we have the fix in .head, but it causes crashes in intrepid
[19:40] <asac> but not in hardy
[19:40] <asac> interestingly enough it doesnt crash firefox, but _only_ the remote client
[19:40] <asac> e.g. when you open a new url with firefox already running
[19:41] <asac> the browser itself is rock solid
[19:42] <armin76> then no, i don't use it, checked with your command
[19:43] <armin76> you guys are too crashy :P
[19:44] <asac> armin76: please try the two jemalloc patches in xulrunner-1.9.head branch in debian/patches/ directory
[19:45] <asac> i have the feeling its something deep in the guts of intrepid and you wont see the issues
[19:45] <armin76> k
[19:46] <asac> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.head/files/309?file_id=patches-20070825223227-dck53ndg2coetcqh-1
[19:46] <asac> the two jemalloc* patches
[19:46] <asac> armin76: ^^
[19:46] <asac> armin76: you need to respin firefox after xulrunner is build
[19:47] <asac> or just copy the xulrunner-stub to the firefox binary path
[19:47] <asac> e.g. /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/firefox
[19:47] <armin76> okay
[19:57] <gnomefreak> asac: where is the rebuild a package selection in LP PPA? wasnt it in the menu at one time?
[20:04] <gnomefreak> ah last package :)
[20:05] <gnomefreak> than flash + pa are done
[20:19] <armin76> asac: applying those patches the strace stuff should output something about jemalloc?
[20:22] <gnomefreak> flash and PA gutsy and hardy are done just need gutsy testers now :(
[20:30] <armin76> use a chroot :P
[20:31] <gnomefreak> i do i have a bunch of them
[20:31]  * gnomefreak already tests my own packages but need others before backport can be pushed
[20:56] <asac> RAOF: in intrepid i have issues with playing videos
[20:56] <asac> but since it works in hardy is suspect that its a issue in gstreamer or codecs
[20:57] <gnomefreak> asac: wait till you try gtksu or gtksudo
[20:57] <gnomefreak> neither work :(
[20:58] <asac> gtksudo? i only know gksudo ;)
[20:58] <gnomefreak> oops
[20:59] <gnomefreak> what is kde's version
[21:00] <asac> no idea
[21:00] <asac> 5?
[21:00] <asac> i think something in the middle of 4 and 5 ;)
[21:04] <gnomefreak> they screwed kde up now kdesu doesnt work and kdesudo should
[21:04] <gnomefreak> they moved kdesu to kdesu.ditrib
[21:04] <gnomefreak> add /usr/bin/ in front
[21:25] <stek79_> Hi!
[21:25] <stek79_> asac, are you there?
[21:28] <stek79_> fadsf
[21:32] <stek79_> is there anyone?
[22:08]  * gnomefreak not anyone today
[22:09] <gnomefreak> one last test on X than im gone for the night. flash and friends are done
[22:26] <gnomefreak> why do we use changelogs?
[22:27] <gnomefreak> why do we use PPA?
[22:35]  * gnomefreak goes for smke before i while @ why i did all that work since arch admins re do it