[01:12] <gluer> tried do do an upgrade from 8.04 LTS to Intrepid...crashed and burned! LOL
[01:22] <riddlebox> what kernel is intrepid using?
[01:22] <AmyRose> gluer: You know, that just proves that Linux ain't ready for the desktop! :3
[01:22] <AmyRose> (just kidding, of course)
[01:23] <Pici> !info linux
[01:23] <Pici> riddlebox: ^
[01:24] <riddlebox> Pici, cool
[01:25] <riddlebox> I am getting so sick of messing with my pinnacle 800i card, I am so close to risking an upgrade to intrepid to see if it will work, it is supposed to work in 2.6.25
[01:28] <Vegar> wouldn't it be easier to just install the intrepid kernel in hardy?
[01:30] <riddlebox> I am not using hardy, gutsy
[01:37] <RAOF> riddlebox: Well, you'll need to upgrade to hardy to upgrade to intrepid anyway.  Why don't you see if it works in Hardy?
[01:37] <riddlebox> it doesnt work in hardy
[01:37] <riddlebox> I already have a bug report in, and a kernel developer for ubuntu has said they will not fix it
[01:37] <riddlebox> but I guess I could upgrade to hardy then install the kernel for intrepid
[01:39] <RAOF> That doesn't sound like a wonderful idea to me, but could work.
[01:39] <RAOF> If it's fixed in 2.6.25, it should work with intrepid's kernel.
[01:39] <RAOF> Just be aware that things may break.
[01:42] <riddlebox> it just sucks, i have compiled the drivers and stuff, but for some reason do not have audio, so i am wondering if it will work with the kernel
[01:43] <RAOF> You'll need linux-ubuntu-modules and possibly linux-restricted-modules, too.
[01:53] <ASULutzy1> Whoops, I got disconnected, sorry bout that. Anyway, has anyone else had any problems with Virtualbox? I can't boot my XP .vdi's. They boot fine in Hardy but in Intrepid they go to the XP screen "safe mode, safe mode with command prompt, ..., boot normally" and no matter what I choose it immediately blue screens... Any ideas?
[02:03] <ASULutzy1> Also, any idea why smbmount doesn't seem to work in Intrepid but works just fine in hardy? Output can be found here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26342/
[02:04] <td123> does anyone know if alpha 2 will fix the pulseaudio no sound problem?
[02:04] <RAOF> td123: If it's not fixed for you now, no.
[02:04] <RAOF> Also, what pulseaudio no sound problems? :)
[02:05] <td123> Oh, pulse audio wasn't working but when I switched it to alsa, it works (sound)
[02:06] <ASULutzy1> Nevermind on the smbmount problem, apparently it changed from uppercase to lowercase... that's odd. Still no luck with virtualbox though, anyone else experienced any problems with it?
[02:06] <td123> RAOF: will intrepid have a website dedicated to problems with it or will it just be the launchpad database?
[02:07] <RAOF> td123: Launchpad, of course.
[02:08] <td123> RAOF: ubuntu 8.04alpha had a website of some sort where you can tell about your experience and add comments/bugs about your experience.
[02:08] <RAOF> td123: There's qa.ubuntu.com, but that's only for testing the candidate ISOs, basically.  Things like "Does it install?", which need special handling.
[02:13] <td123> nvm I found it, it's http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[02:13] <td123> thanks for your help RAOF
[02:32] <Jordan_U> What are the chances of kernel-based mode setting being available in intrepid?
[02:33] <rsk> Jordan_U: 5%
[02:33] <Jordan_U> :(
[02:33]  * Jordan_U will stick with fedora I guess
[03:06] <DanaG> Ugh, PulseAudio sounds like crap if I use the "simultaneous" device... even if I only have one physical device to actually send it to.
[03:06] <RAOF> :(
[03:06] <DanaG> By "crap", I mean horribly crackly -- like somebody talking into a microphone while also EATING it.
[03:06] <DanaG> Or something like that.
[03:06] <DanaG> If I use the bare device, it sounds fine.
[03:06] <DanaG>  main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
[03:06] <DanaG> W: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
[03:07] <DanaG> I am in pulse-rt....
[03:10] <RAOF> Hm.  Odd.  Bug filing time! :)
[03:11]  * Hobbsee assumes it's not trying to come thru the pcspkr?
[03:11] <DanaG> Nope.
[03:11] <RAOF> Oooh, maybe that's it.  Simultaneous, through alsa + pcspk?
[03:11] <DanaG> WOrks fine if I use the bare device.
[03:11] <DanaG> I blacklisted the pcsp one.
[03:11] <RAOF> Awwww! :)
[03:15] <DanaG> It sounds like rather horrid clipping.
[03:15] <DanaG> On the positive side... I just found a new torture method.  =þ
[03:15] <RAOF> You don't have the stream volume set to 200% or something silly?
[03:16] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I have default sample channels set to 6, so perhaps it's adding channels incorrectly.
[03:16] <DanaG> But I haven't usually had this issue, even when using the "combined" sink with 6 channels.
[03:17] <DanaG> Speaking of which... the channel map on the combined sink is wrong.
[04:34] <DanaG> !audible
[04:40] <DanaG> Bummer: latest X broke even glxinfo.
[04:40] <DanaG> And bluetooth headsets simply don't work.
[05:27] <Hew> Could someone tell me if Alpha 2 will have a Live CD version?
[05:27] <Hew> (or if the daily images now do)
[05:41] <Hew> For the benefit of this quiet channel, the consensus is that Live CDs are now available http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[06:22] <alex_mayorga> hello everyone, I recently took the plunge to Ibex, looks like bug #121111 was reintroduced somehow in the kernel
[06:25] <alex_mayorga> right after I update my laptop won't boot until I added 'nolapic_timer nohz=off' to the menu.lst, is this a regression?
[06:26] <alex_mayorga> this was on Ubuntu 2.6.26-3.9-generic
[06:27] <alex_mayorga> shall I file a new bug or re-open the old one? thanks in advance
[07:56] <linux1> hmm ,nfs problem's afoot
[07:57] <linux1> anyone know what this means mount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'rpcbind' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered
[08:01] <TheInfinity> linux1: it means that your rpcd has a problem
[08:02] <TheInfinity> perhaps you forgot to install it, perhaps it just has a bug
[08:13] <Hellow> is this the proper chat to discuss developing interpid?
[08:13] <Hellow> intrepid*
[08:17] <RAOF> Hellow: Bang on.
[09:29] <molgrum> is the nvidia drivers going to work soon?
[09:31] <RAOF> Discussion about that right now in #ubuntu-devel :)
[09:31] <molgrum> am i invited? :P
[09:32] <molgrum> i don't have anything to say anyway
[09:32] <molgrum> ;D
[10:05] <DanaG> damn Flash... I can only view ONE video per Firefox session... and then the rest go grey.
[10:12] <sigma_> is alpha2 out yet?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> sigma_: no
[10:36] <simi> hi, i want to try kubuntu 8.10 but i want to install only the core(i do not want to install openoffice or other applications), i need a how to for installing a custom system like in debian
[10:36] <RAOF> simi: Install from the Alternate CD, and do a server instal.  That'll get you a pretty much bare-minimum system.
[10:46] <simi> RAOF: i belive it do not ask  if i want to install the server only and i do not seen a link to the server cd for 8.10, i belive that is posible using the alternate kubuntu cd but i am not sure
[10:46] <RAOF> Yes, it's possible with the alternate CD.
[10:47] <simi> RAOF: then i should read the installing manual
[10:48] <RAOF> I think it's an option from the boot menu.
[10:53] <gluer> installed intrepid from cd install worked perfect, then installed updates, now when booting gui screen goes blank, cant fix, any ideas?
[10:54] <gluer> using a compaq nx6320 laptop
[10:54] <gluer> using sirc to ask these questions lol
[10:55] <DanaG> vesafb has been replaced by uvesafb.
[10:56] <DanaG> and uvesafb needs 'v86d'
[10:58] <gluer> danag: was that directed at me? how do i replace uvesafb?
[11:01] <gluer> actually quite a lot of fun using lynx and sirc down here ;-)
[11:02] <DanaG> oh wait, GUI goes blank?  Are you speaking of just the boot screen, or actual Xorg?
[11:02] <DanaG> uvesafb is only for the console.
[11:02] <DanaG> For the latter, other people may be able to help better.
[11:02] <gluer> danag: not the boot screen once the gui kicks in screen goes blank
[11:02] <DanaG> Aah.
[11:02] <DanaG> ANyway, I must go to bed now.
[11:02] <DanaG> Thu Jul 10 03:02:59 PDT 2008
[11:03] <gluer> cheers
[11:03] <DanaG> handy thing, that /exec plugin.  =þ
[11:03] <gluer> whats that?
[11:04] <DanaG> A plugin for pidgin, that lets you run commands and dump the output to chat.
[11:04] <DanaG> Like that, which was 'date'
[11:04] <gluer> ahh
[11:04] <DanaG> Handy for such things as "dmesg | grep NVRM"
[11:04] <DanaG> [   13.928943] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  173.14.09  Wed Jun  4 23:43:17 PDT 2008
[11:04] <DanaG> and for "uname -a":
[11:05] <DanaG> Linux GLaDOS 2.6.26-3-generic #1 SMP Wed Jul 2 21:56:15 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:05] <gluer> that is cool
[11:05] <DanaG> Just don't use it for things that should be pastebin'd.
[11:05] <gluer> im on the same kernal as you
[11:07] <gluer> lol all i need is a text base IM and im set
[11:08] <DanaG> 'finch'
[11:23] <Paolo88> hello
[11:23] <Paolo88> where i can find the news on intrepid?
[11:26] <Paolo88> nothing?
[11:44] <negge> I just finished installing Ibex alpha 1 in VMware Workstation, problem is after entering my password nothing happens, I never get to the desktop
[11:44] <negge> any ideas why this is happening?
[12:09] <gluer> hi, any idea why my compaq nx6320's screen goes blank when booting gui on  2.6.26-3? after upgrade from  2.6.26-2?
[12:26] <gluer> does anyone have any ideas, how to fix this? i just reinstalled and dont wanna reinstall the updates in case it breaks again :-)
[12:28] <gluer> there are compiz and xorg updates..maybe thats it
[12:47] <negge> wow, after logging in with failsafe terminal and managing to update everything I can't click Options at the login screen and when I login I get a message askig something about my default desktop type and no matter which button i press it freezes
[12:47] <negge> guess I'll have to check back in a month to see if things have gotten better:p
[14:02] <null_vector> yay, nvidia works again
[14:02] <gluer> how?
[14:04] <molgrum> woot!
[14:05] <rsk> nowai
[14:36] <klerfayt> I thought I would ask if xorg version 1.5 is already available in intrepid, if not then how soon?
[14:36] <gluer> klerfayt: why do u need it?
[14:36] <klerfayt> gluer: to see if one bug is fixed
[14:37] <gluer> which bug?
[14:38] <klerfayt> bug 189958
[14:38] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: 1.4 is in Intrepid atm for most if not everyone
[14:39] <gnomefreak> X is still going through alot of changes
[14:39] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: how many months to go?
[14:39] <gluer> anyone know how to fix my gui blank screen issue?
[14:39] <klerfayt> gluer: what drivers, which desktop
[14:40] <gluer> i upgraded intrepid to 2.6.26-3
[14:41] <gluer> compaq nx6320
[14:41] <marijus> gluer: are you using compiz?
[14:42] <gluer> no, just a default fresh install, then i run the updates and reboot..
[14:42] <gluer> all goes blank
[14:42] <gluer> sorry how do i check which graphics card i have?
[14:43] <seisen> I have that problem in kubuntu and ubuntu both with intel graphics
[14:43] <seisen> lspci gluer
[14:43] <gluer> yeh i think its intel
[14:43] <gluer> yep intel
[14:43] <marijus> i have it if i start compiz with compiz --replace
[14:44] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: oct.
[14:44] <klerfayt> thanks
[14:44] <marijus> with  LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace compiz works as usual
[14:44] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: as for when new X dont know
[14:44] <marijus> metacity also works
[14:45] <marijus> btw im using intel i915
[14:46] <gluer> mines a 945
[14:48] <gluer> is there an app like envy for intel? ;-)
[14:48] <seisen> both of mine are 945
[14:49] <gluer> seisen: i turned of desktop effects will that help?
[14:49] <seisen> I have no idea sometimes mine boots into the  login screen and then screws up or it loads the splash screen get messes up
[14:50] <seisen> you can try it and see if that is the problem
[14:53] <gluer> seisen: yep i just installed the updates so i will try again
[14:54] <seisen> ya let me know if that is the problem
[14:54] <gluer> lol if im not back you know why
[14:55] <seisen> ya a black screen of nothing
[14:55] <gluer> lol
[15:02] <gluer> well im using sirc :-)
[15:02] <seisen> fail?
[15:02] <gluer> seisen: yeh
[15:02] <gluer> lol
[15:03] <seisen> mine does it off and on in Kubuntu and ubuntu lets me login then starts loading the wallpaper then a white screen of nothing
[15:04] <gluer> seisen: same thing here (white screen) after i see the desktop and wallpaper for a sec
[15:04] <seisen> it will load in failsafe gnome without any problems
[15:04] <seisen> its the only way I found that it works
[15:06] <gluer_> seisen: yeh im in with failsafe
[15:06] <marijus> seisen: if you using gnome try thisat the white screen... press alt-f2 and type: metacity --replace
[15:06] <marijus> you will not see anything tho...
[15:07] <seisen> alt+f2 doesn't work or at least it doesn't appear to work
[15:07] <marijus> but it should bring you back to metacity... hopefully....
[15:07] <seisen> interesting let me try that
[15:07] <marijus> at least it works for me...
[15:07] <gluer_> marijus: does that have to done every time?
[15:07] <seisen> so is this an intel problem than?
[15:08] <marijus> not sure... mesa problem they say...
[15:11] <marijus> seisen: let me know if it worked
[15:11] <seisen> alright go get up and go to desktop
[15:14] <seisen> yep it worked marijus
[15:14] <gluer_> is it a permanent fix?
[15:15] <seisen> most likely not
[15:15] <marijus> no... the problem that the session starts with compiz... but compiz doesnt work with xorg so well atm...
[15:15] <seisen> more like a temporary fix until they fix the problem
[15:16] <gluer_> just wondering if that has to be done everytime i restart
[15:17] <gluer_> will try mine now
[15:17] <marijus> seisen: you can try to start compiz with: LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace
[15:17] <marijus> in a terminal
[15:17] <seisen> ok let me try
[15:18] <seisen> fails
[15:19] <marijus> what is your output of glxinfo?
[15:19] <gluer> seisen: thats weird i didnt have to do anything, is working but compiz is off
[15:20] <seisen> well the very first entry is Failed to initialize TTM Buffer manager
[15:21] <marijus> direct rendering: yes or no?
[15:21] <seisen> yes
[15:22] <marijus> strange
[15:22] <pheeror> SKIP_CHECKS=yes
[15:22] <pheeror> just a blind try, no idead if it helps you or not
[15:24] <seisen> fails
[15:24] <marijus> fails with what message?
[15:25] <pheeror> so wait for a new version of drivers for your gpu
[15:26] <pheeror> i'm also waiting - but for .26 kernel to boot on my machine
[15:26] <gluer> pheeror: ah yes.. patience
[15:26] <gluer> :-)
[15:26]  * pheeror isn't kernel hacker (yet)
[15:28] <pheeror> btw isn't TTM dead? I may be wrong but I've read that it's going to be replaced by GEM
[15:28] <marijus> me too read this
[15:28] <Bernardo> seisen: I have the same problem (blank screen) with kubuntu, but sometimes it starts
[15:29] <Bernardo> If I do a reboot I am sure to get a blank screen, if I start from power off half of the times it shows kdm
[15:29] <seisen> thats originally what ubuntu was doing at first
[15:30] <Bernardo> I also have a intel chipset (945)
[15:30] <td123> what about that chipset?
[15:30] <td123> (I have it too)
[15:31] <Bernardo> blank X screen sometimes (at least I have it and I thought that was seisen problem)
[15:32] <wers> is it just me or did the ubuntulooks engine just got faster?
[15:33] <td123> does anyone know approximately what time alpha 2 is supposed to be released
[16:40] <jbroome> when it's ready
[17:15] <cjb> Hello.  Is X fixed yet?
[17:15] <cjb> (and if so, will dist-upgrade work, or do I have to do something manually?)
[17:17] <pheeror> update-manager -d is more sexy anyway
[17:18] <cjb> it would be if X worked!
[17:18] <pheeror> ah
[17:19] <pheeror> then I suppose that doing dist-upgrade is meaningless without editing sources.list
[17:21] <pheeror> if you are running intrepid (I hope you do as something so basic for desktop distro as X is broken) and want to update your system the safe-upgrade is preferred
[17:33] <coNP[uni]> rl
[17:38]  * DanaG still has working X... just not working OpenGL.
[17:40]  * molgrum same here
[17:42] <DanaG> And even 'glxinfo' fails.
[18:06] <daekdroom> Update-manager isn't showing up 8.10 when I run update-manager -d
[18:07]  * cjb is running intrepid and has broken input -- mouse and keyboard don't do anything in gdm.
[18:09] <geek_inn2> hey i have little problem
[18:09] <geek_inn2> i created fonts folder,.fonts in home dir but desktop fonts wont change
[18:12] <daekdroom> Hm. Will Alpha 2 be delayed like Alpha 1?
[18:14] <Jasperus> hello
[18:37] <geek_inn2> i think its obvious that no sign of alpha2
[18:37] <jasperus> yeah
[18:38] <jasperus> but
[18:38] <jasperus> i hope its released
[18:38] <daekdroom> I can't download Alpha 1.
[18:38] <daekdroom> It doesn't show up on update-manager
[18:38] <jasperus> update-manager -d
[18:39] <daekdroom> doesn't work
[18:39] <jasperus> hmm
[18:39] <jasperus> no idea then
[18:39] <pheeror> aptitude update
[18:39] <pheeror> maybe
[18:39] <pheeror> don't know how update-manager works though
[18:39] <jasperus> anyone know
[18:39] <jasperus> if crossover is worth 40 bucks
[18:40] <daekdroom> Strange.
[18:40] <daekdroom> I had to put update-manager to update the package list so it could show.
[18:41] <jasperus> are you trying to install the alpha on your main pc?
[18:42] <daekdroom> yes.
[18:42] <daekdroom> but I probally will cancel it halfway :p
[18:42] <jasperus> heh it was way to unstable for me when i tryed it
[18:43] <jasperus> i caused a kernel panic when i installed awn
[18:43] <pheeror> nice, on cdimage there are *live* intrepid cds
[18:43] <jasperus> well it was on virtualbox
[18:44] <jasperus> so i didn't really care
[18:44] <daekdroom> They were supposed to be released along Alpha 2.
[18:44] <pheeror> i should buy a dvd recorder ;-)
[18:45] <jasperus> why
[18:46] <daekdroom> jasperus, I'll download some packages and cancel it from time to time, to make it easier when I definetly upgrade
[18:46] <pheeror> to test it or real hardware
[18:46] <pheeror> on
[18:47] <pheeror> daekdroom: you are kidding us, aren't you? ;-)
[18:47] <jasperus> lol
[18:47] <daekdroom> pheeror: not really.
[18:47] <jasperus> what the hell
[18:47] <daekdroom> My ADSL is idle most of time.
[18:47] <jasperus> how would that work
[18:47] <daekdroom> It worked when I wasn't sure to upgrade from gutsy to hardy.
[18:48] <daekdroom> I kept cancelling the upgrade during the downloads, and some packages weren't upgraded.
[18:48] <jasperus> i had the worse time upgrading from gutsy to hardy
[18:49] <jasperus> i was stupid and installed beta 2 on my real pc and it had a issue
[18:49] <jasperus> with my hardware
[18:49] <jasperus> then i had to reinstall
[18:50] <daekdroom> I reinstalled gutsy 3 times after upgrading to Hardy.
[18:50] <daekdroom> I'm good at breaking the system.
[18:50] <jasperus> heh
[19:02] <geek_inn2> u mean u like hardy or gutsy?
[19:03] <jasperus> i hated hardy at first
[19:03] <jasperus> brb
[19:06] <daekdroom> I liked hardy, except by the fact fglrx has a bug with my vboard in it.
[19:59] <jasperus> are any ubuntu devs in here
[20:40] <Konstigt> has any devels seen bug #243933? it's about not beeing able to boot intrepid when you're on VirtualBox.
[20:55] <jasperus> Konstigt
[20:55] <jasperus> it works for me in virtualbox
[20:55] <jasperus> what does it do for you?
[22:00] <Konstigt> jasperus: check out the bug
[22:00] <Konstigt> jasperus: cannot boot, the linux kernel reports a bug
[22:02] <jasperus> alright
[22:02] <jasperus> i had that bug
[22:02] <jasperus> all i had to do was reboot the VM
[22:02] <jasperus> what i found out though was
[22:03] <jasperus> for me, at least if i leave focus of the VM (ie hit ctrl to move out of it) it would always give me issues, but if i keep it as my constant window it would work fine
[22:04] <jasperus> sounds really stupid, But that works for me.
[22:06] <daekdroom> jasperus: VBox guest drivers bug, perhaps?
[22:06] <jasperus> Could be.
[23:18] <Konstigt> jasperus: yep, that actually works for me too.
[23:18] <jasperus> haha
[23:18] <jasperus> its so strange right?
[23:22] <DigitalNinja> Is Alpha 2 coming out today?
[23:24] <DigitalNinja> According to the Itrepid release schedule Alpah 2 should be out today. What's the story? Where is Alpha 2?
[23:24] <Konstigt> jasperus: indeed..
[23:25] <Konstigt> DigitalNinja: haven't seen any announce on the MLs yet so probably not. what's the hurry?
[23:25] <DigitalNinja> No hurry
[23:25] <DigitalNinja> Just want to know where it's at so I can download it when it's released.
[23:26] <DigitalNinja> I thought that was going to happen today.
[23:27] <Konstigt> ok. join some announce ML and you'll know as soon as it's ready.
[23:28] <DigitalNinja> Where is the ML at?
[23:34] <Konstigt> don't know but check the wiki
[23:35] <DigitalNinja> I found a list ML's
[23:35] <daekdroom> Will I regret if I use Alpha 1 in a desktop?
[23:37] <RAOF> You'll regret if you don't have a backup system, certainly
[23:39] <Dana1> I've heard some people mention breakage of Xorg; I've just had breakage of OpenGL.
[23:40] <daekdroom> Alpha 2 is out.
[23:40] <daekdroom> or atleast is supposed to be.
[23:41] <daekdroom> There are Alpha 2 links on the wiki already.
[23:41] <jasperus> can you link me?
[23:41] <DigitalNinja> deakdroom: I searched for it but couldn't find it
[23:41] <jasperus> please?
[23:41] <DigitalNinja> Where's the link
[23:41] <DigitalNinja> We must have it
[23:41] <daekdroom> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex/TechnicalOverview
[23:41] <jasperus> Konstigt
[23:41] <daekdroom> This wiki page mentions link to Alpha 2.
[23:41] <daekdroom> But it's 404.
[23:42] <jasperus> you should post that as a fix for the virtualbox issue
[23:42] <DigitalNinja> deakdroom: does this mean it's not out yet
[23:42] <jasperus> daekdroom give it maybe
[23:42] <jasperus> a few hours
[23:42] <daekdroom> DigitalNinja, It means it's about to be aviable, I guess.
[23:43] <DigitalNinja> I see
[23:43] <DigitalNinja> Thanks for the info
[23:43] <daekdroom> It even mentions Ubuntu and Kubuntu CD Images are larger than a CD.
[23:49] <Konstigt> jasperus: already done, i've written a comment on LP
[23:49] <jasperus> could you link me?
[23:53] <Konstigt> link to this? < ubottu> Launchpad bug 243933 in linux "Problem with ubuntu 8.10 and VirtualBox"  [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243933
[23:53] <jasperus> Yes, thank you.
[23:53] <jasperus> i had lost the link for the bug
[23:54] <jasperus> oh you credited me
[23:54] <jasperus> thank you.
[23:58] <p2p> helllo
[23:59] <jasperus> Hello
[23:59] <p2p> there is a bug with xorg and ati non propietary drivers?
[23:59] <p2p> i've got in the log that can't load dri2 module
[23:59] <RAOF> p2p: I don't know.  That's why you're testing :)
[23:59] <RAOF> Right.  That DRI2 warning is harmless, and will be going away.