[00:43] <pwnguin> can anyone else open the ubuntu-title font source in fontforge? I can't =(
[05:20] <pwnguin> huh. did you know the circle of friends isn't symmetric?
[05:20]  * pwnguin better double check that
[05:22] <pwnguin> well thats annoying
[05:23] <pwnguin> the CoF is fine, this business card is not
[18:33] <kooldude> i am a noobie
[18:41] <pwnguin> there's only one way to fix that
[18:41] <pwnguin> practice!
[18:53] <kooldude> im fresh new pwnguin... so can you give me a jumpstart
[18:54] <kooldude> on what were doing
[18:54] <kooldude> i am exactly 13
[18:54] <kooldude> and i have alot of computer expirence
[18:55] <pwnguin> well I can't say what "we're" doing
[18:55] <kooldude> k
[18:55] <kooldude> srry...
[18:55] <pwnguin> i just mean, i dont know the team
[18:55] <pwnguin> Does the artwork team have a list of goals for intrepid?
[18:56] <pwnguin> usually there's a theme
[18:56] <kooldude> i dont know very much
[18:56] <kooldude> about the goals
[18:56] <pwnguin> just a general question, not directed at you
[18:57] <pwnguin> anyways, there's usually a wallpaper and a gtk theme that the art team does
[18:57] <kooldude> oh ok
[18:58] <pwnguin> for intrepid, I believe a dark theme is getting a test run
[18:59] <kooldude> i have a pretty good one... ill send a screenshot to you
[19:00] <pwnguin> not a good idea
[19:00] <pwnguin> well maybe
[19:00] <kooldude> ?
[19:00] <pwnguin> im not familiar with irssi and dcc
[19:00] <pwnguin> but that doesn't stop me from using irssi =(
[19:00] <kooldude> i see
[19:01] <kooldude> here ill try
[19:01] <kooldude> i opened a dialog window accept my offer please
[19:02] <pwnguin> i dont see anything =(
[19:03] <kooldude> hmm then try and right click my username in the sidebar to the right
[19:03] <kooldude> and select "open dialog window"
[19:03] <pwnguin> just a second
[19:03] <kooldude> k
[19:04] <pwnguin> interesting
[19:04] <kooldude> what
[19:04] <pwnguin> 13:04 Warning: Port sent with DCC request is a lowport (0, unknown) - this  isn't normal. It is possible the address/port is faked (or maybe  someone is just trying to bypass firewall)
[19:04] <pwnguin> 13:04 DCC SEND from kooldude [0.0.0.199 port 0]: kool-1.png [571kB]
[19:05] <kooldude> i have a firewall
[19:05] <kooldude> and im kinda having problems with linux and my dads router
[19:06] <kooldude> did you get the photo
[19:06] <pwnguin> i think so
[19:06] <kooldude> good
[19:06] <kooldude> you should see it
[19:06] <pwnguin> oh
[19:06] <pwnguin> pingus
[19:07] <kooldude> the bottom yellow bar is an auto hide bar
[19:07] <kooldude> what
[19:07] <pwnguin> the background
[19:07] <kooldude> oh yah... lol
[19:07] <pwnguin> theres an artist who did a ton of those
[19:08] <kooldude> i found a bunch of those at www.linux-wallpapers.com
[19:09] <pwnguin> yea; I believe the goal is to make something new for everyone
[19:09] <kooldude> ill show you my windows' theme
[19:11] <kooldude> like that for a dark theme
[19:11] <pwnguin> the white irssi background kinda looks wierd, no?
[19:11] <pwnguin> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_810_alpha1&num=1
[19:11] <kooldude> that i can't change
[19:12] <pwnguin> kooldude: well, we've got the source code
[19:12] <kooldude> ?
[19:12] <pwnguin> to xchat
[19:12] <kooldude> ohh... so you can change it
[19:12] <kooldude> i see
[19:12] <kooldude> kool
[19:13] <kooldude> i better with the visuals... not so much the programming
[19:13] <kooldude> but i do have somewhat expirence for configuring it
[19:14] <pwnguin> as i understand it, the point of the dark theme in intrepid is to point out the problems with dark themes on the desktop
[19:14] <pwnguin> so we can fix some of them
[19:14] <kooldude> k
[19:15] <jldugger> actually, you can change the xchat background stuff
[19:15] <kooldude> but i like my dark theme... its nowere nearly as boring as the "high contrast and inverted" themes
[19:15] <kooldude> i can
[19:15] <kooldude> ?
[19:15] <kooldude> how?
[19:15] <jldugger> settings -> preferences -> colors
[19:16] <kooldude> ohhh ok
[19:16] <jldugger> foreground and background
[19:16] <kooldude> lol
[19:18] <pwnguin> heh, here's a fun screenshot http://people.cis.ksu.edu/~jld5445/wipeout.png
[19:20] <kooldude> not so organized though
[19:22] <pwnguin> meh. the point was to try out the wip3out font. it doesnt work well for anything besides text labels
[19:22] <kooldude> k
[19:23] <kooldude> i see
[19:24] <kooldude> so here is the new and improved theme
[19:25] <kooldude> the bar with the two desktops is a slide able
[19:26] <kooldude> i think the dark theme i have RULES!!!
[19:26] <kooldude> at least... for now
[19:26] <pwnguin> kooldude: there's a program we use to demo themes
[19:26] <kooldude> ?
[19:26] <kooldude> demo themes?
[19:27] <pwnguin> yes
[19:27] <kooldude> please explain
[19:27] <pwnguin> apt-get install thewidgetfactory
[19:27] <kooldude> k
[19:28] <pwnguin> then just run 'twf'
[19:29] <kooldude> one sec my sudo is giving me the error crap
[19:29] <kooldude> there
[19:30] <kooldude> installing now
[19:30] <kooldude> k i have it
[19:32] <pwnguin> twf is the command, i dont know why it doesnt have a .desktop entry
[19:33] <pwnguin> it demos about all the gtk GUI "widgets"
[19:33] <kooldude> i can't get my theme to show in the choser
[19:34] <kooldude> and it is saved as KOOL THEME
[19:35] <pwnguin> hmm; you've probably done more with themes than I have
[19:35] <kooldude> lol
[19:35] <kooldude> i've costomized everything
[19:35] <kooldude> and im 13 :P
[19:36] <kooldude> lol
[19:36] <kooldude> i dont mean to be offencive t all
[19:36] <kooldude> at all*
[19:36] <pwnguin> have you considered the google highly open participation contest?
[19:37] <kooldude> ?
[19:38] <kooldude> what's that
[19:38] <pwnguin> google ran a contest a half-year ago
[19:38] <kooldude> yah
[19:39] <pwnguin> basically, people 13-18 are recruited to do stuff with open source projects
[19:39] <kooldude> k
[19:39] <kooldude> ool
[19:39] <pwnguin> they give out tshirts and other stuff
[19:39] <kooldude> that is awesome
[19:40] <kooldude> i wish i had known about that earlyer
[19:40] <pwnguin> like money
[19:40] <pwnguin> well, if you're 13, it's pretty close
[19:40] <pwnguin> the government doesn't like child exploitation
[19:41] <kooldude> actualy i turned 13 in apil
[19:41] <kooldude> april*
[19:41] <pwnguin> http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/
[19:41] <pwnguin> yea, the context was over in february
[19:41] <kooldude> so that wouldn't be possible
[19:42] <kooldude> because the did it in febuary
[19:42] <pwnguin> anyways, you might keep an eye out
[19:42] <kooldude> i will
[19:42] <pwnguin> if they do it again, it might be a good way for a young person to get expeience and mentoring
[19:43] <kooldude> man thats kool
[19:43] <kooldude> oh yah
[19:43] <kooldude> and i have alot of expirence with gnome already
[19:44] <pwnguin> oh?
[19:44] <kooldude> hey... does anyone know that kde came out with a new version
[19:44] <pwnguin> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-gnome/issues/list?can=1&q=completed&colspec=ID+Status+ClaimedBy+Summary&x=status&y=claimedby&cells=tiles has a list of last time's tasks, if you want to know what you'd be doing in the contest
[19:46] <kooldude> i already was looking at that page
[19:46] <pwnguin> ah
[19:46] <pwnguin> he
[19:46] <kooldude> anyhow did you know that kde came out with a new version
[19:46] <pwnguin> i dare say, this might be something ubuntu should look into, I think last time they ran out of tasks
[19:46] <pwnguin> yes
[19:46] <pwnguin> they do that
[19:47] <pwnguin> and then their bloggers wont shut up about it ;)
[19:47] <kooldude> i think they are slightly copying the mac
[19:47] <kooldude> os
[19:48] <kooldude> lol
[19:50] <kooldude> man that's all kool
[19:50] <kooldude> so what improvment's do you think i could do with my desktop theme
[19:51] <pwnguin> well, the window decoration gloss is a bit bright; it makes it hard to read the title
[19:52] <kooldude> k
[19:52] <kooldude> i can fix that
[19:52] <pwnguin> is that the intrepid theme?
[19:52] <kooldude> ?
[19:52] <pwnguin> are you running intrepid or hardy?
[19:52] <kooldude> hardy
[19:53] <kooldude> but i think you all could use it as a base-off
[19:53] <pwnguin> you might register a flickr account to host your screenshots; it'd be easier than dcc'ing and you'd have a historic record
[19:54] <pwnguin> you might also try out the intrepid livecd
[19:55] <kooldude> i have one
[19:55] <kooldude> ill upload it
[19:56] <pwnguin> see, im connected to irc via ssh so i have to bring up firefox anyways ;)
[19:56] <kooldude> i see
[20:02] <kooldude> i like firefox
[20:02] <pwnguin> I like turtles
[20:04] <kooldude> i like penguins!! WHAT NOW!!!
[20:04] <kooldude> lol
[20:10] <kooldude> so ill chat later, i guess... thanks for the update
[20:11] <pwnguin> stay in school! ;)
[22:00] <kooldude> so...
[22:01] <kooldude> were do we give our themes and icons to
[22:06] <kooldude> hello
[22:32] <kooldude> pwnguin
[22:32] <kooldude> !!!
[22:42] <kooldude> hi
[22:43] <kwwii> re
[22:43] <kooldude> pwnguin... private conversation please!!!
[22:43] <kooldude> i've got something cool to tell you
[22:43] <kooldude> kwwi
[22:44] <kooldude> i dont know you very well do i
[22:44] <kwwii> hi
[22:44] <kwwii> no idea, who are you?
[22:44] <kooldude> i am a recent recrutment
[22:44] <kwwii> kool
[22:44] <kooldude> (13)
[22:44] <kwwii> so to speak :-)
[22:44] <kooldude> you too?
[22:45] <kwwii> am I also a recent recruitment?, no :-)
[22:45] <kooldude> lol
[22:46] <kooldude> i started yesterday and none responded
[22:46] <kwwii> don't take that personally, it is really not that abnormal that people miss things from time to time
[22:47] <kooldude> i know
[22:47] <kooldude> but was on for an hour or so...
[22:47] <kwwii> sometimes days go by, trust me
[22:48] <kooldude> lol
[23:18] <kwwii> night all