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| Alibb | @schedule | 09:04 |
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| ubottu | Alibb: Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | 10 Jul 13:00: Desktop Team | 10 Jul 16:00: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00: MOTU | 12 Jul 13:00: Xubuntu Community | 15 Jul 11:00: Community Council | 09:04 |
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| pitti | hi | 13:59 |
| Alibb | hi pitti :) | 13:59 |
| pitti | tedg: good morning | 13:59 |
| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Desktop Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 10 Jul 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00 UTC: MOTU | 12 Jul 13:00 UTC: Xubuntu Community | 15 Jul 11:00 UTC: Community Council | ||
| tedg | Morning pitti | 14:00 |
| tedg | Is today going to be "Ted and the Germans" :) | 14:00 |
| Alibb | @now | 14:00 |
| ubottu | Alibb: Current time in Etc/UTC: July 10 2008, 13:00:49 - Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | 14:00 |
| pitti | tedg: s/s$// :) | 14:00 |
| pitti | tedg: so far it's just the two of us | 14:01 |
| pitti | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2008-07-10 | 14:01 |
| pitti | for the record, the activity reports and the (non)agenda | 14:01 |
| tedg | Oh, I figured kwwii would make it too. | 14:01 |
| pitti | I pung him | 14:02 |
| pitti | nothing from kwwii and mpt | 14:02 |
| mpt | hi hi | 14:02 |
| kwwii | hi | 14:02 |
| pitti | welcome, mpt and kwwii | 14:02 |
| pitti | no agenda from the activity reports, and nothing particular from me either, with just the four of us | 14:03 |
| pitti | so, anything you'd like to alk about? | 14:03 |
| james_w | pitti: I have a small follow up on the users-admin tool if you are interested | 14:03 |
| pitti | james_w: oh, absolutely! | 14:03 |
| pitti | james_w: you pointed me towards this new tool which is in planning | 14:03 |
| pitti | but that didn't look intrepid-able yet? | 14:03 |
| james_w | I sent a mail to the distros list, and that new tool looks really good | 14:04 |
| mpt | A new tool in planning? | 14:04 |
| james_w | I imagine it won't be intrepid, perhaps intrepid+1, I could follow up if you like | 14:04 |
| * mpt has longed to redesign this | 14:04 | |
| pitti | james_w: hm, I must have missed it | 14:04 |
| james_w | http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-May/msg00006.html | 14:04 |
| pitti | (the mail, not your IRC ping) | 14:04 |
| james_w | the only other suggestion was yast | 14:05 |
| kwwii | I refuse to work on yast again | 14:05 |
| kwwii | :-) | 14:05 |
| pitti | well, we want to get rid of super-big tools in favor of a small and sharp one, so yast seems a bit of a step into the wrong direction IMHO | 14:05 |
| james_w | apparently someone is working on porting it to Debian | 14:05 |
| pitti | james_w: I think in that case we can survive with users-admin just a little longer | 14:06 |
| james_w | yeah, the new one seems like it might be a great fit, and presumably will have all the right things like policykit etc. | 14:06 |
| pitti | in intrepid we're going to drop almost all of the 'permisison' groups, so we can even make users-admin a little more slick | 14:06 |
| james_w | pitti: yeah, I think seb would like to get rid of it, but there doesn't seem to be anything better at this time | 14:06 |
| pitti | james_w: at least that settles the question whether or not to put heavy work into s-c-users | 14:07 |
| pitti | if it's essentially declared dead, there's no point for us to port it to PK | 14:07 |
| mpt | hmm, some big UI improvements in that new design, but also some awkwardness | 14:07 |
| pitti | it would probably not be too much work to just use s-c-u with gksu, though | 14:07 |
| pitti | mpt: it's still in the planning stage, so now would actually be a great time to change the layout | 14:08 |
| mpt | indeed | 14:08 |
| pitti | mpt: if you are interested in that, do you feel like following up to that annoucements with your thoughts? | 14:08 |
| pitti | or are you 100% busy with LP? | 14:08 |
| mpt | Well I'm not subscribed to fedora-desktop-list, ;-) but I'll certainly e-mail the authors | 14:09 |
| pitti | right, that's what I meant | 14:09 |
| pitti | mpt: thanks | 14:10 |
| pitti | so, unless anyone else has something, I'd just say "see you next week" | 14:13 |
| * tedg has nothing else to say. | 14:13 | |
| james_w | "see you next week" | 14:13 |
| pitti | then, thanks to everyone, and safe travels! | 14:14 |
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| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 10 Jul 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mobile | 11 Jul 12:00 UTC: MOTU | 12 Jul 13:00 UTC: Xubuntu Community | 15 Jul 11:00 UTC: Community Council | 15 Jul 15:00 UTC: Server Team | ||
| persia | OK. We forgot to reserve the room, but it's now time for the Ubuntu Java team meeting. | 16:01 |
| * soren runs away | 16:01 | |
| * robilad waves and claims the hour for the #ubuntu-java meeting, along with persia | 16:01 | |
| persia | OK. The agenda is up at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Meeting | 16:02 |
| ogra | did we reserve for mobile ? | 16:02 |
| ogra | next hour ? | 16:02 |
| persia | ogra: Yes. See /topic | 16:02 |
| ogra | perfect ... | 16:02 |
| ogra | sorry for being blind :) | 16:03 |
| persia | Last week we talked about some goals for intrepid, and those of us with goals committed to putting them up in the Roadmap. | 16:03 |
| persia | The results of this are available from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/RoadMap | 16:03 |
| persia | Err. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Roadnap | 16:03 |
| persia | Err. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/Roadmap (I can spell, really!) | 16:04 |
| persia | Right now, we don't have any assignments, or comments. | 16:04 |
| persia | First item: " Evaluate difficulties faced when utilizing applications that depend and/or are built on Java." Who can speak to that? | 16:04 |
| persia | OK. Anyone want to keep it on the roadmap? Are we going to do it? | 16:06 |
| robilad | it's not quite clear to me what it means in üpractice | 16:07 |
| robilad | packaging diffculties? developer difficulties? end user difficulties? | 16:07 |
| persia | Right. Shall we remove it from the roadmap then? | 16:07 |
| robilad | sounds fair to me, it can go back once it's more finegrained | 16:08 |
| persia | Anyone else? | 16:08 |
| persia | OK. Dropping that then. | 16:09 |
| persia | Next item: OpenJDK MIR: who is doing that? | 16:10 |
| persia | Does it need packaging work first? | 16:10 |
| dholbach | doko: are you around? | 16:10 |
| persia | doko: Was that you? | 16:10 |
| doko | here! | 16:11 |
| mareks | what is 'MIR'? | 16:11 |
| dholbach | mareks: Main Inclusion Report | 16:12 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements | 16:12 |
| persia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess | 16:12 |
| robilad | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/246349 for the corresponding bug | 16:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 246349 in openjdk-6 "MIR for openjdk-6" [Undecided,New] | 16:14 |
| persia | doko: May I put your name against that item on the roadmap? Do you need any help with any packaging fixes for that? | 16:14 |
| doko | persia: no, that's mostly done. if you do have free resources, maybe look at maven2? I'm not sure who wanted to do that | 16:15 |
| persia | doko: Koon mentioned it for the last meeting, but didn't add it to the roadmap. | 16:16 |
| robilad | not here today, afaict | 16:16 |
| dholbach | Koon said he couldn't make it today, but was interested what would get decided about it | 16:16 |
| robilad | did he find time to check out the fedora patchset? | 16:16 |
| persia | Let's skip maven for this week: if someone starts work on it, we can add it to the roadmap next week. | 16:17 |
| dholbach | robilad: no, I don't think he did | 16:17 |
| robilad | ok, thanks, then I agree with moving on, and putting it on the agenda for next week | 16:17 |
| persia | Next item is "Integration of Java into server stack". Who is the driver for this? | 16:18 |
| persia | OK. Anyone want to be the driver for it? | 16:19 |
| robilad | i'd be happy to, but it may require some maven support if we want to build geronimo/glassfish from source | 16:19 |
| persia | Great. Do you want to talk about it a bit, or work on breaking it down into chunks over the next week, and maybe describe some smaller targets for people to help with next week? | 16:21 |
| dholbach | seems like we need a maven workforce :)) | 16:21 |
| robilad | i'd be happy to talk about the GF side of things next week | 16:22 |
| persia | OK. I'll put your name on it for now, and encourage you to break it down a bit in the roadmap. | 16:22 |
| robilad | thanks | 16:22 |
| persia | Next item: "Identify possible opportunities to optimise the Java stack". Who wants this one? | 16:22 |
| dholbach | I think cody-somerville added it | 16:23 |
| dholbach | it wasn't really discussed in the last meeting | 16:23 |
| persia | Hmm. Not here this week. Anyone else want it? | 16:23 |
| persia | Opinions on dropping it vs. deferring to next week? | 16:24 |
| persia | Right. Let's leave it there, as it's at least well described, and see if Cody comes back next week. | 16:25 |
| persia | Next item: "Transition Java packages from multiverse to universe where possible". | 16:26 |
| persia | I raised this, but won't likely do a very good job of getting it done for intrepid. Anyone willing to take over tracking it? | 16:26 |
| robilad | i think that's an item that would profit from close collaboration with debian | 16:26 |
| persia | Very much so: http://wiki.debian.org/Java/MoveToMain tracks the Debian progress. | 16:27 |
| robilad | so I'd like to discuss it with man-di when he has time to join us | 16:27 |
| persia | When things move to Main in Debian, someone needs to file a bug in Ubuntu to ask the archive-admins to promote the package to universe. | 16:27 |
| persia | robilad: While I'm certain man-di could do it, I'd think this sort of tracking Debian might be an easy way for someone new to get involved. | 16:28 |
| robilad | that's a very good point | 16:28 |
| persia | Anyone interested? If not, I'll take it, but would be happy to hand it to anyone who wants to take over. | 16:29 |
| persia | Next item: "Improved Java environment on PowerPC": who has a power PC and wants to coordinate the porting efforts? I think there were a couple people interested last week. | 16:30 |
| persia | OK. Opinions on keeping it on the roadmap or dropping it? | 16:32 |
| robilad | is it a release arch for interpid? | 16:32 |
| doko | no | 16:32 |
| persia | Well, it's in ports. | 16:32 |
| doko | so it's not a release arch | 16:33 |
| * persia grumbles about definition of terms, and quibbles a bit before subsiding | 16:33 | |
| robilad | it seems that it would take a volunteer from the ubuntu powerpc community to keep it on map | 16:33 |
| persia | Right, and we don't have one this week. If someone objects to removing it in the minutes, they can take charge of it. | 16:34 |
| persia | OK. That was the Roadmap review: we'll do it again next week. | 16:34 |
| persia | Back to the new items on the agenda: | 16:34 |
| persia | "Eclipse" | 16:34 |
| persia | xhaker seems to be absent, so we'll defer this again. | 16:35 |
| persia | Next item: "Moving meetings to 14h". robilad: all yours. | 16:35 |
| robilad | ok, i spoke with man-di what time would work for him | 16:36 |
| robilad | and he suggested starting one or preferrably two hours earlier, | 16:36 |
| robilad | i.e. 13 or 14h UTC. | 16:36 |
| robilad | would that still work for everyone interested? | 16:36 |
| persia | I'm good for either of those times. | 16:37 |
| * robilad pokes persia, doko, dholbach, mareks | 16:37 | |
| robilad | thanks, persia | 16:37 |
| robilad | others? | 16:38 |
| * persia notes that others not just poked who would find those times inconvenient ought speak up quick. | 16:38 | |
| robilad | ah, the advantages of not announcing a meeting on fridge ... ;) | 16:38 |
| dholbach | yeah, I'm good too | 16:38 |
| robilad | no volunteers, but also no trouble rescheduling ;) | 16:39 |
| robilad | thanks, dholbach | 16:39 |
| persia | OK. From now, we'll take meetings at 14h. | 16:39 |
| persia | That completes our agenda. Any volunteers to write up the minutes? | 16:40 |
| * robilad would be happy to, where should the write up go to? | 16:41 | |
| * doko is leaving, back late in the evening | 16:41 | |
| persia | robilad: I'd think we probably want to put it on the wiki, and maybe send an email. | 16:41 |
| persia | I'd be happy to discuss particulars with you in #ubuntu-java after the meeting. Thanks for volunteering. | 16:42 |
| robilad | ok. next meeting - thu 17th, 14h UTC. | 16:42 |
| persia | Thanks everyone. See you next week! | 16:42 |
| dholbach | thanks guys | 16:42 |
| robilad | thanks all, and bye | 16:42 |
| doko | ohh, I won't make it next week for the meeting | 16:45 |
| persia | doko: OK. If there's a change in status on OpenJDK can you let us know in #ubuntu-java, and someone else can bring it to the meeting? | 16:46 |
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| * ogra waves | 17:02 | |
| davidm | #startmeeting | 17:02 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 11:03. The chair is davidm. | 17:02 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 17:02 |
| davidm | OK silly of me | 17:02 |
| ogra | old habits die hard :) | 17:02 |
| davidm | Good morning everyone. | 17:03 |
| davidm | We have no prior business from last week. | 17:03 |
| davidm | I do have a bit of news, I have located the mootbot meeting logs for the last two weeks so I'll post them today. | 17:03 |
| davidm | OK that is better. | 17:03 |
| davidm | Someone please keep an eye on #ubuntu-mobile so that anyone confused (like I was ) gets directed here, thanks. | 17:03 |
| GrueMaster | do you need to restart mootbot? | 17:03 |
| lool | So I guess we can move to this week's items? | 17:04 |
| lool | GrueMaster: he did | 17:04 |
| davidm | Already did | 17:04 |
| davidm | INdeed | 17:04 |
| lool | And additionally this chan is logged 100% of the time I think | 17:04 |
| persia | It is. irclogs.ubuntu.com | 17:04 |
| GrueMaster | just checking. | 17:04 |
| davidm | [topic] Wiki cleanup: feedback and ideas (EmmetHikory) | 17:04 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Wiki cleanup: feedback and ideas (EmmetHikory) | 17:04 |
| lool | persia: Thanks for a lot for picking up this task! | 17:04 |
| persia | OK. Last week, I send out https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2008-July/001935.html | 17:04 |
| lool | persia: Did you check whether dholbach had any useful bits on this task? | 17:04 |
| persia | Everyone who replied to the mail was in agreement. Anyone else have suggestions? | 17:05 |
| lool | I think he cleaned up the dev pages of the Ubuntu wiki some months ago | 17:05 |
| davidm | [link] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2008-July/001935.html | 17:05 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2008-July/001935.html | 17:05 |
| persia | lool: Yes. I've gotten a lot of input from him on standard team structures, etc. | 17:05 |
| lool | Great | 17:05 |
| persia | That was part of why I suggested separating the team from the flavour on the wiki. | 17:05 |
| lool | I fully agree | 17:06 |
| lool | And I would add that any additional orthogonals splits that you can come up with will probably help reuse information | 17:06 |
| persia | OK. In the absence of either objections or other ideas, I'll start implementing the changes I described next week. Anyone who wants to get a head start is welcome to dive in. | 17:07 |
| davidm | persia, sounds good to me :-) | 17:07 |
| davidm | OK if there is no more on this topic? | 17:08 |
| davidm | There are no additional items on the agenda. | 17:08 |
| davidm | [topic] Agenda empty!!! | 17:09 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Agenda empty!!! | 17:09 |
| ogra | :) | 17:09 |
| cgregan | davidm: devices? | 17:09 |
| davidm | cgregan, ?? | 17:09 |
| cgregan | I talked to pat | 17:09 |
| davidm | Ah, | 17:09 |
| cgregan | Intel will need to provide | 17:10 |
| * lool wonders whether we have not much to discuss on these IRC meetings because we have a call some hours before the meeting | 17:10 | |
| davidm | Good enough, thanks, I'll get back to them. | 17:10 |
| davidm | lool, from the mobile team, perhaps but we might have topics from the community? | 17:10 |
| lool | davidm: But if we don't discuss all our topics in the public, we wont get much community love | 17:11 |
| ogra | yeah | 17:11 |
| lool | It's not that we're hiding them, but because we cover them privately already... | 17:11 |
| lool | I had a similar problem with the one to ones | 17:11 |
| cgregan | should we move call to Friday morning? | 17:11 |
| ogra | we should probably switch order ... but that might get tricky if this meeting here is immovable | 17:11 |
| davidm | We can discuss here if you like, then the team meeting can become short again which I like :-) | 17:11 |
| lool | I had nothing to discuss with people because it was too close ot the weekly phone call | 17:12 |
| lool | davidm: hehe | 17:12 |
| lool | I think either flipping order of phone call and irc meeting or moving them further apart in the week could help | 17:12 |
| lool | At least it helped me have more interesting phone calls with people | 17:12 |
| davidm | I like the phone call because it gives me a few minutes to "hear" everyone and I get a clew if someone is unhappy or stressed that I can't get here. I'm quite happy to have meeting here. | 17:13 |
| lool | cgregan: I think moving call Friday morning would work; it's Friday evening for StevenK though | 17:13 |
| cgregan | make it a weekly recap to discuss what comes up from community here, and status of our work for the week | 17:13 |
| davidm | If StevenK and persia don't mind I don't | 17:13 |
| lool | davidm: I think having a phone call is fine, it's very effective, but it deprives this IRC meeting from a lot of content | 17:13 |
| cgregan | Same for persia | 17:13 |
| lool | cgregan: Indeed | 17:14 |
| lool | persia: Sorry :) | 17:14 |
| * persia has a regular meeting every sixth week at 12:00 UTC on Fridays. | 17:14 | |
| davidm | [topic] telephone meeting and it's impact on IRC public meeting | 17:14 |
| MootBot | New Topic: telephone meeting and it's impact on IRC public meeting | 17:14 |
| lool | davidm: Do you have any requirement on the contents of your reports? | 17:14 |
| lool | davidm: I mean the weekly reports you'll be aggregating frmo our ARs? | 17:14 |
| cgregan | The only other option is to move it to their morning.....but that makes it very late for you. Although in a few weeks you will be up changing diapers anyway! :-) | 17:14 |
| davidm | lool, Nope | 17:15 |
| lool | cgregan: haha | 17:15 |
| lool | I'm fine moving to any other day | 17:15 |
| davidm | I do need the activity reports (that I still don't have) hint hint..... | 17:15 |
| lool | I think we should report progress in the IRC meetings and discuss things here like we did on the phone today | 17:16 |
| davidm | OK, that can work. | 17:17 |
| lool | Cool | 17:17 |
| lool | persia: every sixth week doesn't sound too grave | 17:18 |
| lool | davidm: Shall we try this new meeting time where we might miss persia once every 6 weeks? | 17:18 |
| lool | davidm: Perhaps check with StevenK? | 17:18 |
| persia | lool: Nope, but it's MOTU Meeting, which I'm loathe to miss (and you ought be attending :p ) | 17:18 |
| lool | Anyway, you people know my computer-times; I'm happy with anything which happens after this IRC meeting in the week or any other day | 17:18 |
| lool | Just not some hours before the IRC meeting ;) | 17:18 |
| davidm | Yes, lets talk about it next week in Lexington | 17:19 |
| ogra | ++ | 17:19 |
| lool | Cool | 17:19 |
| davidm | OK | 17:19 |
| davidm | Anything else? | 17:19 |
| lool | Apart of that I wanted to propose that we announce presence at upcoming events | 17:19 |
| lool | ogra and myself will try to attend the Debian Extremadura week on Emdebian | 17:20 |
| lool | And I'll try to go to the maemo Summit in Berlin | 17:20 |
| lool | Should I announce presence on our mailing-list? | 17:20 |
| davidm | I'll be at OLS week after next in Ottawa Canada | 17:20 |
| davidm | Sure, why not? | 17:20 |
| lool | Great | 17:20 |
| ogra | fine with me | 17:20 |
| lool | Will do | 17:20 |
| lool | Do we have a wiki page with slides of previous presentations? | 17:21 |
| davidm | persia, thoughts? | 17:21 |
| persia | I'm all in favour of announcing presence on mailing lists :) | 17:21 |
| lool | I'd love to reuse some material if I have to present UM&E | 17:21 |
| davidm | I am not aware of any. Good idea however | 17:21 |
| davidm | There are some internal but out of date. | 17:21 |
| lool | Ok; then I think I'll try to collect some in a wiki page | 17:22 |
| davidm | I can post mine. | 17:22 |
| lool | I'll need to consult with persia on appropriate location of these :-P | 17:22 |
| persia | lool: w.u.c/UbuntuMobile/Presentations/$(NAME) | 17:22 |
| lool | persia: Name of the event I guess? | 17:23 |
| davidm | Do we just want w.u.c/UbuntuMobile/Presentations and have attachments there? | 17:23 |
| lool | persia: Why UbuntuMobile and not just Mobile BTW? | 17:23 |
| persia | Or name of the presentation if you're building a static presentation for multiple fora | 17:23 |
| davidm | Seems perhaps (to me) silly to have a page for an event that has a single attachment? | 17:24 |
| lool | I was thinking we would collect a list of oo presentations or pdfs or whatever and list at which events these were presented by whom at which date | 17:24 |
| persia | Mostly because the name is most similar to UbuntuStudio from the other flavours, and that is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio | 17:24 |
| lool | davidm: I find this a bit heavy too | 17:24 |
| lool | persia: But then everything on wuc is Ubuntu; sounds weird to repeat that part? :) | 17:25 |
| lool | DRY | 17:25 |
| persia | davidm: If we're doing attachments, that makes more sense. | 17:25 |
| persia | lool: I'm just trying to follow the prevailing conventions. | 17:25 |
| lool | persia: Desktop is using /DesktopTeam | 17:25 |
| davidm | persia, I think mostly that is what we are likely to have. | 17:25 |
| lool | There's also /PlatformTeam | 17:26 |
| persia | I'm happy with /MobileTeam, but think that's a different namespace than /UbuntuMobile/ | 17:26 |
| persia | davidm: You've convinced me. | 17:26 |
| lool | persia: Hmm let's do some research on existing conventions after the meeting then | 17:27 |
| davidm | Would it make sense to have a ???Mobile???/Presentations page and if there is more then just attachments put a page under it, if not just add attachment? | 17:27 |
| persia | That works even better: best of both models. | 17:27 |
| ogra | yeah | 17:27 |
| lool | Excellent | 17:28 |
| davidm | :-P I guess a pointed headed boss can do something correct once in a while ;-P | 17:28 |
| ian_brasil | there is also this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UMEGuide/PresentationArea | 17:28 |
| ogra | i think for massive attachment handling we should take a look at the artwork team pages probably | 17:28 |
| ogra | they collect theme work there | 17:28 |
| lool | ian_brasil: What's the criteria used to group these presentations there? | 17:29 |
| ogra | if we even get that many presentations together to acually worry :) | 17:29 |
| ian_brasil | presentations about ubuntu mobile and upstream | 17:30 |
| davidm | True, it's not like we are going to be on the road full time doing presentations, but we will do some. | 17:30 |
| ian_brasil | i.e. a catch all | 17:30 |
| lool | ian_brasil: I would think we need to focus on UM&E presentations; probably as done by people working on UM&E and presenting the goals and their work | 17:30 |
| lool | ian_brasil: it looks like you have some hildon presentations in there | 17:30 |
| ian_brasil | right | 17:30 |
| lool | I think these are helpful to developers, or can be linked to from documentation, but do they really document UM&E or help reusing material for a new presentation? Perhaps less so | 17:30 |
| lool | ian_brasil: But thanks, definitely an useful collection to point technical people at | 17:31 |
| lool | Well all of this is technical anyway :) | 17:31 |
| lool | Ok; thanks everybody for discussing presentation materials | 17:32 |
| lool | I don't have anything more on the topic | 17:33 |
| davidm | OK, good enough, | 17:33 |
| lool | (Anyone has additional topics?) | 17:33 |
| * ogra not atm | 17:33 | |
| davidm | otherwise meeting close going once....................................................................................................................... | 17:33 |
| * GrueMaster remains silent. :-X | 17:34 | |
| davidm | meeting close going twice ................................................ | 17:34 |
| davidm | #endmeeting | 17:35 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 11:36. | 17:35 |
| * lool thanks davidm for taking care of the meeting and the related mootbot/wiki administrativa! | 17:35 | |
| davidm | Thanks everyone. | 17:35 |
| ogra | thanks | 17:35 |
| davidm | Now finding mootbot logs will be harder!!!! | 17:35 |
| davidm | There are a lot of meetings in this room..... | 17:36 |
| ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 17:41 |
| ogra | the ScribesTeam might be of help | 17:41 |
| ogra | davidm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/SubmitMeeting sepcifically | 17:42 |
| ogra | *specifically even | 17:42 |
| persia | Oooh! That's a nifty link. On the other hand, I'm not sure most of my meetings are that disciplined... | 17:44 |
| ogra | well, we have the agenda page at least | 17:44 |
| ogra | The summary and log will be placed on the agenda you gave a link for. An email will be sent when log and summary have been posted to the page. | 17:44 |
| ogra | is what the page says | 17:44 |
| ogra | so if you just include the scribes team in the weekly mail announce CC list that should work i guess | 17:46 |
| ogra | (after asking them indeed) | 17:46 |
| persia | Probably, although it also requires mootbot wrangling and people staying on-topic. | 17:46 |
| ogra | which we have anyway in this meeting | 17:48 |
| davidm | the scribes have had fun with mootbot hosting so I've been pulling the logs when they show up and hosting them on my people.c.c page | 17:55 |
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