| mathiaz | kirkland: yeah - I noticed the amount of LP bug mail related to that :) | 00:00 |
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| Quatroking | ... | 00:00 |
| Quatroking | The Live Cd doesn't work on it :( | 00:00 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i have one physical machine running Intrepid i'm using for the init script testing and development | 00:00 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i can repurpose it for iso testing thereafter | 00:00 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: that would be great - as of the timeframe, alpha2 is due tomorrow | 00:01 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: so having testing done by then would be helpfull :D | 00:01 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: :-/ | 00:01 |
| gbooks | hi all! | 00:12 |
| gbooks | trying to set up mod_rewrite... ran the ln -s... command and then wen to do: apache2 -k restart and got error: | 00:13 |
| gbooks | apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER} | 00:13 |
| hads | `sudo a2enmod rewrite` is what you should be running | 00:14 |
| gbooks | hads, thanks! that did it! | 00:17 |
| hads | np | 00:18 |
| zul | kirkland: lemme know when its really done :) | 00:41 |
| kirkland | zul: okey doke | 00:41 |
| kirkland | it's all really done | 00:41 |
| kirkland | zul: i've subscribed you to the bugs I need sponsoring | 00:41 |
| kirkland | slangasek sponsored the lsb upload | 00:41 |
| kirkland | and slangasek sponsored the one for samba | 00:41 |
| zul | kirkland: cool | 00:41 |
| kirkland | zul: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/203169/comments/33 | 00:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 203169 in sysklogd ""status" function for init scripts" [Wishlist,In progress] | 00:42 |
| kirkland | zul: that comment has links to each of the bugs | 00:42 |
| kirkland | zul: with patches that require uploads | 00:42 |
| kirkland | zul: take a look and see if they're okay | 00:43 |
| zul | kirkland: cool ill do it first thing tomorrow just trying to get liam to go to slee | 00:43 |
| kirkland | zul: if they are, I'm going to write a wiki page on how to create similar patches for any other generic server package | 00:43 |
| kirkland | zul: nxvl expressed an interest in helping | 00:43 |
| zul | kirkland: cool | 00:43 |
| kirkland | zul: there are dozens (hundreds? thousand+?) of other init scripts that could use this | 00:44 |
| kirkland | zul: should be done in Debian, obviously | 00:44 |
| kirkland | i'll push each of these patches to Debian | 00:44 |
| zul | kirkland: sounds good to me | 00:45 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i'm downloading ISO's now | 00:47 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: great ! thanks for help testing the new isos | 00:51 |
| hessml | does anyone here have an opinion about managed switches - brands that you like or dislike? | 01:19 |
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| Jberg88 | hi, is anyone in here? | 02:23 |
| ScottK | Yes | 02:29 |
| ScottK | lamont: Ping. | 02:29 |
| ScottK | lamont: I'm looking for a policy compliant way to add another service to master.cf to reinject mail from amavisd-new after scanning. | 02:30 |
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| Jberg88 | oh ok I was wondering if i would loose my google apps if i were to use BIND9 for my home webserver | 02:31 |
| ScottK | How is it you think those are related? | 02:31 |
| Jberg88 | I don't know. | 02:33 |
| ScottK | Then it seems like an odd question to me. | 02:34 |
| pschulz01 | Greetings.. what is the 'best way' to add new users to a ubuntu-server box? | 02:38 |
| ScottK | pschulz01: See man adduser | 02:39 |
| pschulz01 | ScottK: Ta. Is there a command to list the deatils of a user? (regardless of if they are registered via LDAP or passwd) | 02:46 |
| pschulz01 | (Different system) | 02:46 |
| ScottK | Dunno. | 02:47 |
| pschulz01 | I remember that 'ypcat' kind of worked for systems that used NIS. | 02:48 |
| sommer | pschulz01: try the id command: id username... gives you some information anyway | 02:48 |
| pschulz01 | .. and 'id' shows me groups. I was after the rest of the password info.. particularly 'shell' | 02:49 |
| * ScottK me slaps the entire Ubuntu Server team (except sommer) in the head via email. | 02:49 | |
| sommer | ScottK: Bug #247144 | 02:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 247144 in libsocket6-perl "MIR for libsocket6-perl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247144 | 02:53 |
| ScottK | Kewl. | 02:53 |
| ScottK | sommer: Thanks. I really appreciate you working on it. | 02:53 |
| sommer | np, hopefully its complete :) | 02:54 |
| ScottK | sommer: You ready for me to review it? | 02:54 |
| sommer | ScottK: yep, I think its complete | 02:55 |
| ScottK | Is it really dbs? | 02:55 |
| sommer | it says it in the control file... and there's an include in the rules file for dbs-build.mk | 02:56 |
| sommer | wasn't really sure what dbs was, but looked like a patch system | 02:56 |
| sommer | also the debian policy on the package is rather dated :( | 02:57 |
| ScottK | It's the predecessor to cbds. | 02:57 |
| sommer | ah, I'm not sure that it's actually doing anything, but it's there | 02:57 |
| ScottK | What version do you have. My says 3.7.3.0? | 02:58 |
| ScottK | And compat = 7 | 02:58 |
| ScottK | I think you reviewed an old version of the package. | 02:58 |
| sommer | libsocket6-perl_0.19-1 | 02:58 |
| ScottK | You want 0.20-1 | 02:59 |
| sommer | ah balls, I wasn't in my intrepid chroot... doh | 02:59 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 02:59 |
| sommer | I'll update the mir | 02:59 |
| ScottK | sommer: dbs is part of the packaging system, not a patch system. | 03:06 |
| sommer | ah, gotcha | 03:07 |
| sommer | ScottK: updated, the rest of the questions still pertain... at least I think so | 03:11 |
| * ScottK looks again. | 03:11 | |
| ScottK | sommer: 3.6/3.7 in standards version. What work does it need? | 03:13 |
| sommer | Homepage field, is really the only one I can think of, so I figured there may be more | 03:14 |
| sommer | heh, just read your email... kind of spooky that I was working on another one when you were writing that | 03:14 |
| * ScottK bets not. | 03:14 | |
| ScottK | Thanks again for your work on this. | 03:14 |
| sommer | fair enough, I'll soften the language on that question | 03:15 |
| sommer | np | 03:15 |
| sommer | what's the deadline for MIRs? | 03:15 |
| ScottK | Approval by feature freeze. | 03:16 |
| sommer | ah, so we've got some time :) | 03:17 |
| sommer | libsocket6-perl updated again | 03:21 |
| ScottK | You need to mention dbs | 03:22 |
| sommer | as a patch system? | 03:22 |
| ScottK | As part of the packaging system. | 03:23 |
| sommer | ScottK: or as a dependcy? | 03:23 |
| ScottK | Tarball in Tarball is worth a mention as a packaging oddity. | 03:23 |
| ScottK | It makes patching MUCH harder and so it a supportability consideration. | 03:23 |
| sommer | ya, I wondered about that, but I've seen another package like that | 03:24 |
| ScottK | It's odd, but not impossible. | 03:24 |
| ScottK | Also it does have a test suite. | 03:24 |
| helfire | acl's rock | 03:24 |
| helfire | just thought i'd throw that out there | 03:24 |
| sommer | ScottK: do you get that from the dh_testdir in debian/rules? | 03:25 |
| sommer | oooohhhh, the "t" directory | 03:26 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 03:26 |
| sommer | but is it used in the package? | 03:26 |
| ScottK | Not sure. Looking. | 03:27 |
| helfire | would it be safe to give www-data an acl for r-x to /var/www so apache will default have access to all new users | 03:29 |
| sommer | helfire: should be, as far as I know | 03:30 |
| helfire | if someone hacks the user www-data, i have bigger issues anyways i'd suppose | 03:30 |
| sommer | heh, your pretty much in a world of pain at that point... I'd also keep an eye on who's in the www-data group also | 03:31 |
| helfire | ya, using acl's no one should really be in it | 03:32 |
| ScottK | sommer: It's listed in the MANIFEST, so I know it gets installed. Not sure about running it. | 03:33 |
| sommer | ScottK: if it were being run wouldn't that be in the debian/rules file? | 03:35 |
| ScottK | Run at install, not during build. | 03:35 |
| ScottK | There's some Perl specific magic for that that I don't recall how works. | 03:35 |
| sommer | ah gotcha, I can look into that | 03:35 |
| ScottK | Other than that, I think it's good. | 03:36 |
| sommer | cool, thanks | 03:37 |
| helfire | well /var/web/user/phptemp wont work unless i chown it back to www-data:www-data (even with proper acl's) | 03:47 |
| helfire | nevermind i did it recursive so all the sessions got changed as well :) | 03:49 |
| helfire | does anything report ACL violations? | 04:06 |
| pschulz01 | ping.. anyonw have experience with ssmtp ? I just installed and does exactly what I want it to do.. | 06:08 |
| sommer | pschulz01: I use it for simple mail testing with mutt | 06:09 |
| pschulz01 | Is there anything tricky about it at all??? | 06:10 |
| pschulz01 | sommer: I have installed it on a gateway box that doesn't need to have a mailserver on it. | 06:10 |
| pschulz01 | sommer: This is to get sysadmin emails off the system. | 06:11 |
| sommer | pschulz01: I've never noticed anything tricky... I think as long as you don't want it to do anything too complicated it'll work great for you | 06:11 |
| sommer | basically as long as it has somewhere to relay mail off of ssmtp is great | 06:12 |
| pschulz01 | sommer: :-) .. well it hasn't open any ports, which is an excellent start. | 06:12 |
| pschulz01 | opened | 06:12 |
| sommer | yep, I kind of think of it as just the sendmail binary and not the sendmail service | 06:13 |
| sommer | but I'm also not sure how accurate that analogy is :) | 06:13 |
| CrummyGummy | Elo | 07:46 |
| redguy | hi | 08:40 |
| redguy | my gutsy LTSP server stopped working after a minor update. .xsession-errors files in users' ~ complain about MAGIC-COOKIE . Anyone has an idea what might go wrong? | 08:42 |
| kraut | moin | 09:00 |
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| nandersson | What has OpenSUSEs Build Service that Launchpad doesn't? I'm asking as I write for Swedish tech-mag TechWorld Open Source and I'm curious | 09:58 |
| nandersson | I.e could OpenSUSE Build Service be of any use for Ubuntu? | 09:59 |
| blue-frog | the opposite you mean | 10:00 |
| nandersson | blue-frog, Yes, could be - in what way do they complement eachother | 10:01 |
| blue-frog | no idea | 10:01 |
| j0nr | hello | 11:02 |
| j0nr | anyone able to help me set up vnc? | 11:02 |
| j0nr | I need an understanding to the difference between whether you log into an existing sessions or start a new one | 11:03 |
| ATA_Dark_Shadow | greetings, if you would need to choose a mailserver with very good connection to php, to send thousands of emails an hour, what would you choose? sendmail rather then qmail? | 11:14 |
| hads | Most MTAs can send a large amount of emails without difficulty. | 11:15 |
| xt | ATA_Dark_Shadow: postfix | 11:16 |
| ATA_Dark_Shadow | hmm | 11:16 |
| ATA_Dark_Shadow | ill try postfix then, as its already installed :) | 11:17 |
| hads | I'd be more worried about PHP than the choice of mail server | 11:23 |
| xt | truth (: | 11:27 |
| jdstrand | soren: can you accept my email to ubuntu-server ml. I think I got it all straightened out (finally) | 12:43 |
| soren | jdstrand: will do | 12:43 |
| jdstrand | soren: thanks | 12:43 |
| soren | done | 12:44 |
| jdstrand | \o/ | 12:44 |
| * soren <3 listadmin | 12:44 | |
| jdstrand | ? | 12:44 |
| soren | Yes, I'm hooking up file descriptor three to read from listadmin. | 12:44 |
| soren | (It's actually meant to resemble a heart) | 12:44 |
| jdstrand | ah-- sideways | 12:45 |
| soren | It's the way all the cool kids say that they like something. | 12:45 |
| henkjan | :) | 12:45 |
| jdstrand | with my aliased font, it really doesn't look much like a heart | 12:45 |
| soren | Yeah. I think kids use their computers lying down more than they used to. :) <3 etc. | 12:45 |
| jdstrand | heh | 12:46 |
| ogra | soren, see and i thought it was a damsel from the top (looking up) | 12:46 |
| * jdstrand I was really interested in soren's use of file descriptor 3 for a moment | 12:46 | |
| jdstrand | s/I// | 12:46 |
| jdstrand | (darn third person references) | 12:47 |
| soren | jdstrand: That's where love is. Apparantly. | 12:47 |
| zul | morning | 12:47 |
| jdstrand | hi zul! | 12:47 |
| * soren finds it slightly confusing, too. | 12:47 | |
| zul | hey jdstrand | 12:47 |
| soren | zul: Hey, Chuck. | 12:47 |
| zul | soren: Hey, Soren. | 12:48 |
| jdstrand | soren: love is found in file descriptor 3!?! neat-- that is an answer to one of life's great questions | 12:48 |
| soren | jdstrand: Yep. You heard it in #ubuntu-server first. | 12:48 |
| * soren breaks for few minutes | 12:48 | |
| * jdstrand notes soren is useful for all sorts of things | 12:48 | |
| zul | jdstrand: unless you are hans reiser | 12:48 |
| jdstrand | zul: dude, you're obsessed with that guy ;) | 12:49 |
| zul | jdstrand: i think the jokes are humorous | 12:49 |
| jdstrand | though I admit, I did see that thing on him last night (20/20?) | 12:49 |
| zul | he was on again last night/ | 12:50 |
| zul | i think I was watching futurerama :) | 12:50 |
| kraut | what's the difference between 8.04.1 and 8.04? | 13:01 |
| Deeps | in windows lingo, service pack 1 | 13:02 |
| kraut | ok, just another release | 13:02 |
| kraut | and from the point of a server-os, are there relevant changes? | 13:02 |
| Deeps | release info + changelog should have that info | 13:03 |
| kraut | ok | 13:04 |
| kraut | that info is missing on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases?highlight=(releases) | 13:04 |
| Deeps | kraut: release info as in the announcement: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-July/000112.html | 13:06 |
| kraut | Deeps: thanks | 13:12 |
| sommer | morning | 13:30 |
| lukehasnoname | morning | 13:31 |
| zul | hi sommer | 13:33 |
| lukehasnoname | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_file_systems&oldid=220529437#Features | 13:50 |
| lukehasnoname | rightmost column | 13:50 |
| dthacker | not funny | 13:54 |
| lukehasnoname | k | 13:55 |
| ScottK | lamont: Would you have a moment to put your Postfix maintainer hat on for a discussion? | 14:03 |
| lamont | meh. just for you dear. | 14:04 |
| lamont | :-) | 14:04 |
| lamont | wassup? | 14:05 |
| ScottK | I'm trying to come up with a policy compliant way to automagically integrate amavisd-new into Postfix. | 14:05 |
| ScottK | All the main.cf stuff I can do through postconf. | 14:05 |
| lamont | main.cf changes: postconf -e. master.cf changes: erk | 14:05 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 14:05 |
| lamont | I'd welcome a patch to postconf (or new utility) to add/remove/edit bits in master.cf.....; | 14:06 |
| ScottK | Would you be willing to consider a helper script in the postfix package that would append the needed stuff on the end. | 14:06 |
| ScottK | Add I can do. Remove is fraught with peril. | 14:06 |
| lamont | agreed | 14:06 |
| lamont | I was hoping you'd give me edit to. :)) | 14:07 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 14:07 |
| ScottK | I was thinking something like postfix-add-filter $FILTERNAME $PORT_TO_LISTEN_ON | 14:08 |
| ScottK | With a man page to explain. | 14:08 |
| lamont | it'll take more args than that, I expect... like command args for example.. | 14:09 |
| lamont | but yeah | 14:09 |
| ScottK | Start simple and standard and then add complexity as we go. The amavisd-new docs have a very nice sample. | 14:10 |
| lamont | heh. yeah | 14:10 |
| lamont | sounds like a plan | 14:10 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:10 |
| ScottK | Do you care if it's shell or python? | 14:10 |
| ScottK | lamont: ^^^ | 14:11 |
| lamont | python has less scary auto-expansion crap in it/ | 14:12 |
| zul | kirkland: ping me when you are around? | 14:15 |
| ScottK | Instead of pinging you when he's not around? | 14:16 |
| helfire | Is there a way to make an image of a remote server then transfer it to my desktop and use it as a virtual server? | 14:19 |
| helfire | like with dd or simialr | 14:19 |
| soren | Yes. | 14:19 |
| helfire | any guide or tips on how it's done :) | 14:20 |
| soren | with dd or simialr. | 14:20 |
| soren | I think it's easier if you tell me that parts you're not sure about. | 14:21 |
| helfire | haha, well i vaugly know how dd works. My server has only 1 partition so can i dd to the same partition i'm reading? | 14:22 |
| soren | No. | 14:22 |
| helfire | didnt think so | 14:22 |
| helfire | i can dd to a stream though, but my home connection is only 7mbps | 14:23 |
| helfire | so 16 gigs would take a while, but probably doable | 14:23 |
| soren | You can't shut the server down while you do it? | 14:24 |
| helfire | no it's remote colocated in FL and i'm in MN :) | 14:24 |
| soren | Is that Montana or Minnesota? I forget? | 14:24 |
| ScottK | Minnesota. | 14:24 |
| helfire | yup | 14:24 |
| soren | Ok, not *that* bad, then :) | 14:24 |
| ScottK | It's a long way either way. | 14:24 |
| ScottK | Compared to .dk, I guess not. | 14:25 |
| helfire | haha only a 300$ plane ticket now adays | 14:25 |
| soren | At any rate, I don't see how it being far away relates to whether you can shut it down? | 14:25 |
| helfire | and i'm sure they wouldnt let me in the server room | 14:25 |
| soren | What would you do if it crashed? Cry and buy a new one? | 14:25 |
| helfire | well i can shut it down i suppose, but how would that help me? | 14:25 |
| helfire | yes :P | 14:25 |
| soren | Well, most colo's that I know of offer some sort of recovery boot option. From there, I can access the hard drives and such without them being moutned. | 14:26 |
| helfire | hmm, i guess i havent looked into that | 14:27 |
| soren | So my question wasn't so much of a "can you reach the power button", but more of a "would a few hours of downtime be a huge problem"? | 14:27 |
| soren | Again: | 14:27 |
| soren | What would you do if it crashed? Cry and buy a new one? | 14:27 |
| helfire | downtime at night wouldnt be a problem | 14:27 |
| kirkland | zul: hey, give me a half hour or so to get my day going ;-) | 14:27 |
| zul | kirkland: sure ill be here | 14:28 |
| soren | Say you smashed your /etc/passwd and couldn't log in... What'd you do? | 14:28 |
| helfire | call them and figure out their recovery options | 14:28 |
| helfire | but i dont know them since i never have needed to use them | 14:28 |
| soren | The thing is... dd won't detect if stuff you've already read has changed and such, so if you dd a runnning system's drives off to somewhere else, the filesystem integrity is out the window. | 14:30 |
| soren | ...but if this is just for fun and giggles, that's probably not a bit problem. | 14:30 |
| soren | If, however, you're doing it to set up a serious testing environment of some kind, then it's one heck of a problme. | 14:30 |
| soren | problem, even. | 14:30 |
| helfire | this is just for fun | 14:31 |
| soren | no giggles? | 14:31 |
| helfire | never | 14:31 |
| soren | Oh. then i'm not sure. | 14:31 |
| soren | You could try. | 14:31 |
| soren | There's nothing lost (apart from time and bandwidth) if it doesn't work. | 14:31 |
| helfire | i could just install 7.10 in vmware, copy the user space and file i know i've changed in /etc/, get a list of installed programs from apt and sync them, it would be a realitivly close copy | 14:32 |
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| soren | Oh, sure, if that's sufficient for you, just do that. | 14:35 |
| helfire | probably :) | 14:35 |
| soren | dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections are going to be handy. | 14:35 |
| helfire | thanks | 14:35 |
| soren | "dpkg --get-selections > foo.lst" on the source, and then "dpkg --set-selections < foo.lst ; dselect install" on the destinatino. | 14:36 |
| soren | destionation, even. | 14:36 |
| * soren is having a bad typing day | 14:36 | |
| helfire | yup, that should be good enough for me. Will give that a go this weekend | 14:37 |
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| zul | kirkland: ping so those patches have been blessed? | 15:08 |
| cl0s | i'm having trouble with installing ebox.. | 15:12 |
| cl0s | getting this errror.. | 15:12 |
| cl0s | dpkg: error processing ebox (--configure): | 15:12 |
| cl0s | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 | 15:12 |
| cl0s | Errors were encountered while processing: | 15:12 |
| cl0s | ebox | 15:12 |
| cl0s | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 15:12 |
| cl0s | i tried to remove it, but i get the same error.. | 15:13 |
| dexem | probably it's showing more related errors | 15:14 |
| cl0s | ubuntu 8.04 server ... only things its running/ has installed is openssh-server, vsftpd & svn server.. | 15:14 |
| cl0s | ill paste bin the entire thing.. 1 sec.. by the way its the latest from launchpad that they recommend on the ubuntu wiki and ebox site.. | 15:15 |
| cl0s | the repo version was giving me the same results also though.. | 15:15 |
| cl0s | ubuntu repo* | 15:16 |
| cl0s | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26473/ | 15:16 |
| kirkland | zul: okey doke, what up | 15:20 |
| kirkland | zul: break out the vial of holy penguin pee | 15:20 |
| zul | kirkland: those status patches have the go ahead now? | 15:20 |
| zul | eww :) | 15:20 |
| kirkland | zul: for the blessing | 15:21 |
| zul | kirkland: ok Ill do that now then | 15:21 |
| kirkland | zul: let me check my mail and see if I got any show stopping responses | 15:21 |
| zul | got the bug # handy as well? | 15:22 |
| soren | It's funny how "show stoppers" used to be a good thing. | 15:22 |
| kirkland | zul: start at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/203169/comments/33 | 15:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 203169 in sysklogd ""status" function for init scripts" [Wishlist,In progress] | 15:22 |
| kirkland | that comment has links to all of the other bugs | 15:22 |
| zul | kirkland: merci buckets | 15:23 |
| soren | u has a bukkit? | 15:23 |
| zul | I do, its full of monkeys | 15:24 |
| soren | Wicked. | 15:25 |
| kirkland | zul: yep, no negative responses | 15:27 |
| kirkland | zul: those are ready then | 15:28 |
| zul | sweet | 15:28 |
| kirkland | zul: once Debian accepts the latest lsb-base patch, I'll push all of these to Debian | 15:28 |
| zul | kirkland: yep yep | 15:29 |
| kirkland | zul: also, i might need some MIR help from you today | 15:29 |
| kirkland | zul: dendrobates said you're da man for MIR's | 15:30 |
| zul | kirkland: sure | 15:30 |
| zul | kirkland: samba has already been taken care of correct? | 15:34 |
| zul | and lamont is ok with the one for bind? | 15:34 |
| kirkland | zul: slangasek "approved" it in IRC, but it doesn't look look like he's applied it yet | 15:34 |
| kirkland | zul: you can leave that one, if you want, and I'll ping slangasek in IRC later today | 15:35 |
| kirkland | zul: or you can apply it | 15:35 |
| kirkland | zul: see #ubuntu-devel yesterday | 15:35 |
| kirkland | zul: grep for "B+" | 15:35 |
| zul | kirkland: k | 15:35 |
| lamont | zul: and uploaded.. well, modulo fixing it for yesterdays thing | 15:35 |
| lamont | which will land in -3 sometime soonish | 15:35 |
| lamont | kirkland: I assume the syntax in -2 will still _work_ with the new status_of_proc, yes? | 15:36 |
| kirkland | lamont: yes, if you don't pass it a -p $pid | 15:36 |
| kirkland | lamont: -3 is needed if you want -p $pid | 15:36 |
| zul | kirkland: cjwatson ok with ssh as well? | 15:36 |
| kirkland | zul: I have not spoken with cjwatson | 15:36 |
| lamont | kirkland: that's what I'll be adding. :-) | 15:37 |
| kirkland | i can ping him, if you like | 15:37 |
| zul | kirkland: please | 15:37 |
| kirkland | okay, i'll move that over to #ubuntu-devel | 15:37 |
| cl0s | how would i search for and remove gconf modified keys set by ebox? | 15:58 |
| soren | mathiaz: I'm curious about the timeline for your openldap cn=config work? | 16:02 |
| mathiaz | soren: I'm planning to get something done by the end of this week so that I can get a review from slangasek during next week sprint | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | soren: are you looking for something particular in the cn=config migration ? | 16:03 |
| soren | mathiaz: Sounds great. I have a bit of a pet project that needs it :) | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | soren: a new feature ? | 16:03 |
| mathiaz | soren: what would you require ? | 16:04 |
| soren | If just cn=config would be enabled by default, that would should be more than enough. | 16:04 |
| mathiaz | soren: well - you can already setup cn=config - you just need to convert slapd.conf manually and modify /etc/default/slapd to point to your /etc/ldap/slapd.d/ directory | 16:05 |
| soren | Sure, I know. | 16:05 |
| mathiaz | soren: slapd already supports cn=config for quiet some time | 16:05 |
| soren | ..but is this is going to be the default from now on, I'm not going to spend time automating that process for my little use case. | 16:06 |
| soren | And I do believe this is going to be the default, right? | 16:07 |
| mathiaz | soren: yes - that's my plan | 16:07 |
| soren | Good. | 16:07 |
| soren | I might try to sell my little pet project to one of you guys next week :) | 16:08 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: zul: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InitScriptStatusActions when you get a chance | 16:23 |
| kirkland | I put step-by-step instructions in there for adding status actions to init scripts | 16:23 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: zul: as soon as Debian's lsb takes the patch, I'll merge lsb again for Intrepid, and then I'll send a note out to the ubuntu-server@ mailing list asking for some volunteers | 16:24 |
| zul | kirkland: sounds good to me | 16:25 |
| kirkland | zul: since you've looked at a bunch of these patches now, you might have additional advice to add to that page | 16:25 |
| zul | kirkland: sure I can think of openvpn at the top of my head | 16:26 |
| kirkland | zul: oh, well, i meant more the instructions for how to create/test/submit an appropriate patch for this | 16:26 |
| kirkland | zul: i link to owh's page where he has lists of packages that need this | 16:27 |
| mathiaz | jdstrand: kees: what's the state of bug 227464 ? | 16:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 227464 in php5 "Please roll out security fixes from PHP 5.2.6" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227464 | 16:27 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: jdstrand: kees: fwiw, I have a php5.2.6 for Hardy built in my PPA, if that helps your testing/review | 16:28 |
| jdstrand | mathiaz: kees is handling that one, but we'll talk about it | 16:29 |
| jdstrand | kirkland: that is most helpful | 16:29 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #247316 in samba (main) "winbindd segfaults regularly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247316 | 17:16 |
| lamont | so after I create the file in /etc/event.d, how do I make whatever decide to notice that it's there? | 17:18 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #247332 in postfix (main) "Please add a script to allow filter services to be programatically added to master.cf" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247332 | 17:48 |
| bdmurray | kirkland: doc search rules | 18:00 |
| kirkland | bdmurray: ;-) i like your enthusiasm | 18:01 |
| kirkland | bdmurray: have you seen the manpage archive I created? | 18:01 |
| kirkland | bdmurray: http://ubuntu.dustinkirkland.com/manpages/ | 18:01 |
| bdmurray | kirkland: no, not yet. I like how doc search can help augment my memory | 18:01 |
| kirkland | bdmurray: the manpage repo is nice for reading manpages that you don't have installed on your system | 18:02 |
| kirkland | bdmurray: or perhaps from older/newer ubuntu versions that you have installed on your system | 18:02 |
| kirkland | bdmurray: if I could bribe kees into auditing the code, I could get it onto ubuntu.com :-P | 18:03 |
| bdmurray | kirkland: maybe you'll get that chance next week! | 18:04 |
| kirkland | bdmurray: true dat. you're in London, I assume? | 18:04 |
| bdmurray | kirkland: Indeed, that made the most sense | 18:05 |
| mm_202 | Hey guys, is there a way to get chown / chmod to affect hidden files / dirs as well? I do a 'chmod -R a+r *', but it skips '.svn', etc.. | 18:16 |
| kees | mm_202: I use "." instead of "*" for that. | 18:18 |
| mm_202 | hmm. Yep, that makes sense. | 18:19 |
| mm_202 | Thank you, kees! | 18:19 |
| kees | mm_202: your shell expands the "*" to all non-hidden files before chmod goes recursive on your list. using "." means chmod does the recursion from "." | 18:19 |
| kees | mm_202: np :) | 18:19 |
| mm_202 | heh, yeah, forgot about the shell expandion... | 18:20 |
| kirkland | zul: can you review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportEcryptfsUtils | 19:18 |
| zul | kirkland: looks good to me | 19:20 |
| kirkland | zul: thanks. now what? | 19:20 |
| kirkland | :-P | 19:21 |
| zul | kirkland: file a bug in launchpad subscribe ubuntu-mir and wait | 19:21 |
| kirkland | zul: k | 19:22 |
| kirkland | zul: one bug per MIR, or per batch? | 19:22 |
| kirkland | zul: I have a total of 5 that go together | 19:22 |
| zul | one bug per MIR | 19:22 |
| W8TAH | hi folks -- im running samba on ubuntu hardy server -- working with my MS active directory -- user authentication works a treat -- but members of the group cannot access the folder even though the folder is 770 | 19:29 |
| W8TAH | smb.conf is at http://www.pastebin.ca/1068355 | 19:34 |
| ScottK | kirkland: When I have several that are related, I mention that in the bug. | 19:37 |
| kirkland | ScottK: separate bugs? | 19:37 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 19:37 |
| kirkland | ScottK: one per MIR? | 19:37 |
| kirkland | k | 19:37 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 19:37 |
| kirkland | zul: can you add your name as a reviewer of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportEcryptfsUtils if you're happy with it? | 19:45 |
| warchief_ryan | anyone know why my server box was unresponsive when I woke up? I guess mainly the interface as I was still able to reboot it once I got the keyboard out... | 19:45 |
| zul | kirkland: consider it dne | 19:46 |
| kirkland | zul: can you review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportPkcs11Helper next? | 19:46 |
| sommer | warchief_ryan: did you have a balanced breakfast before checking it? | 19:47 |
| warchief_ryan | not really | 19:47 |
| W8TAH | hi folks -- im running samba on ubuntu hardy server -- working with my MS active directory -- user authentication works a treat -- but members of the group cannot access the folder even though the folder is 770 | 19:47 |
| W8TAH | smb.conf is at http://www.pastebin.ca/1068355 | 19:47 |
| zul | kirkland: I was doing that one as well this morning: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MIRpkcs11 | 19:47 |
| sommer | warchief_ryan: that explains it :-) | 19:47 |
| kirkland | zul: no way :-) | 19:48 |
| kirkland | zul: for what? | 19:48 |
| zul | there was a request to add smartcard support for openvpn | 19:48 |
| zul | and I thought it was a good idea | 19:48 |
| kirkland | gotcha | 19:48 |
| sommer | W8TAH: is it a unix group or an AD group? | 19:48 |
| W8TAH | AD group | 19:49 |
| * kirkland goes read zul's MIR for MIRpkcs11 | 19:49 | |
| zul | kirkland: lets merge them | 19:49 |
| kirkland | zul: k | 19:49 |
| sommer | W8TAH: does Samba know about the AD group? | 19:49 |
| warchief_ryan | W8TAH: check the shares owner/group | 19:49 |
| W8TAH | yes - it does -- | 19:49 |
| kirkland | zul: Upstream is vigorous. :-) | 19:49 |
| W8TAH | owner is set to my user | 19:49 |
| kirkland | zul: it hasn't been touched since 2007-12 | 19:49 |
| W8TAH | group is set to the all faculty group | 19:49 |
| kirkland | zul: I called that "calm" | 19:49 |
| W8TAH | which my user is part of | 19:49 |
| kirkland | zul: how about I add your differences to my report, and you review mine? | 19:50 |
| zul | kirkland: sure update the bug number in your report and then delete mine | 19:53 |
| kirkland | zul: done, review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportPkcs11Helper and add your name to the bottom | 19:54 |
| kirkland | zul: still saving .... | 19:54 |
| kirkland | saved | 19:54 |
| zul | kirkland: done | 19:56 |
| kirkland | zul: deleted your page with a message pointing to the merged named | 19:57 |
| warchief_ryan | was about to say why hes using 'inherit permissions = yes nt, acl support = yes' | 20:03 |
| warchief_ryan | with the forces | 20:05 |
| warchief_ryan | and to check the permissions | 20:05 |
| warchief_ryan | im out | 20:05 |
| zul | kirkland: and update the bug as well | 20:10 |
| kirkland | k | 20:10 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #247365 in samba (main) "Cannot copy complete files to NAS (samba server)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247365 | 20:26 |
| kirkland | zul: next one for you.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportTrousers | 20:39 |
| ph8 | how do i see all bugs in ubuntu server? do you just grab general ubuntu bugs that could be server related? | 21:07 |
| mathiaz | ph8: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+packagebugs is a good place to start | 21:17 |
| ph8 | thanks mathiaz, and how do i know which packages not to bother with (ones that will be dealt with by 'upstream' is the terminology?) | 21:20 |
| mathiaz | ph8: none - we're all looking after all the bugs in there | 21:21 |
| mathiaz | ph8: I'm not sure what you mean exactly | 21:21 |
| mathiaz | ph8: all the bugs listed there have been reported by Ubuntu users - so they need to be triagged correclty | 21:21 |
| ph8 | well for example, a while back i put in a patch for a simple mysql bash script that had a bug against it, but my patch was overriden because the debian team fixed it | 21:22 |
| ph8 | ah ok, i'll read the wiki about the procedure | 21:22 |
| ph8 | what do you do when a bug is the responsibility of the php devs for example? Leave it open till they amend php and the MOTU have put it into a package? | 21:31 |
| gegema | My server time seems to always fall behind for some reason. At first install it was about 8 mins behind. I did an ntpdate (ntp.ubuntu.com) to sync it.... but it was still falling behind. I tried adding the ntpdate command asa CRON job but kep on getting errors from CRON. | 21:38 |
| gegema | 1) Why does the server time keep on falling behind? ( I haven't noticed this on my Desktop) | 21:38 |
| gegema | 2) how do I enter CRON jobs that need to run as root? | 21:38 |
| gegema | PS. cron.daily was done per instructions on http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/NTP.html | 21:39 |
| sommer | gegema: sudo crontab -e | 21:39 |
| sommer | for number 2 | 21:39 |
| sommer | for number 1... could be the battery on your mother board, or another hardware issue | 21:40 |
| kirkland | zul: hey, you still around? | 21:40 |
| gegema | sommer, yeah but if ntpdate needs to run as root and I just enter the ntpdate command in cron, will it run as root? | 21:40 |
| sommer | gegema: if it's in root's crontab then yeppers | 21:40 |
| gegema | Cool deal... now I need a refresher on cron entries | 21:41 |
| gegema | sommer: Thanks! | 21:41 |
| sommer | np | 21:41 |
| quatroking | Hello | 22:21 |
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| quatroking | I was wondering, what packets do I need to run a LAMP? | 22:22 |
| quatroking | Anyone? | 22:24 |
| Brazen | "sudo apt-get install php5-mysql mysql-server" should pull in everything you need. | 22:25 |
| quatroking | thank you. | 22:25 |
| Brazen | php5-mysql will automatically pull in Apache and the php module as dependencies. | 22:26 |
| quatroking | Alright. | 22:26 |
| Nafallo | there is some magic to install the task as well. | 22:26 |
| quatroking | It should all work in Xubuntu, right? | 22:26 |
| Nafallo | I can never remember what the magic is though :-/ | 22:26 |
| quatroking | Ubutnu Server Edition won't seem to install my network card. | 22:27 |
| quatroking | *ubuntu | 22:27 |
| Nafallo | quatroking: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ | 22:27 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 22:27 |
| quatroking | sounds even easier. | 22:28 |
| Brazen | depending on the version of Ubuntu, there may not be a "lamp-server" metapackage. | 22:29 |
| quatroking | Its kinda strange how the Server edition wont install my network cards, while Xubuntu does | 22:29 |
| quatroking | But at least I now directly have a handy GUI I like. | 22:30 |
| Brazen | that IS strange | 22:30 |
| Nafallo | Brazen: I'm pretty sure that existed in dapper already? | 22:30 |
| Brazen | Nafallo: I double checked on a Dapper server and aptitude did not find it. | 22:33 |
| Nafallo | Brazen: strange. I checked on LP and php5 seems to have some relation to that. | 22:34 |
| Nafallo | anyway. why would someone install the previous LTS now? | 22:34 |
| quatroking | Couldn't find the lamp-server package in 8.04 | 22:35 |
| Nafallo | quatroking: not a package. it's a task. hence the ^ behind | 22:35 |
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| quatroking | oh. | 22:35 |
| quatroking | well it couldn't find the task then. | 22:35 |
| quatroking | its now downloading the php and mysql stuff | 22:35 |
| Nafallo | that sounds quite extremely odd. | 22:36 |
| Brazen | I still use Dapper, but that's because I know it inside out and haven't taken the time to QA Hardy yet. | 22:36 |
| quatroking | oh, it was a | 22:36 |
| quatroking | ^ | 22:36 |
| quatroking | i've read * | 22:36 |
| quatroking | will try again after its done with the php and mysql | 22:36 |
| quatroking | Is it hard to configure mysql by the way? | 22:37 |
| quatroking | I'm used to configuring it on webhosts, not on an own server | 22:38 |
| Brazen | You can put phpmyadmin on your lamp server | 22:38 |
| quatroking | Awesome, i've worked with that before. | 22:38 |
| Brazen | There is a package for it, but I prefer to download the sources. It's all just regular php files. | 22:40 |
| quatroking | those can be used to configure the server from other pc's through the web, right? | 22:41 |
| quatroking | just like they do on webhosts | 22:41 |
| Brazen | yes, from any computer that can access the website being hosted on the server. | 22:41 |
| quatroking | just insert the login data and full access. | 22:41 |
| quatroking | thats a lot easier than I tought | 22:42 |
| Brazen | yes, there is a little bit of setup, but it's been too long since I've done it to get to specific. I think you just browse to a setup page, put in your database server information and then it creates a config file for you. | 22:42 |
| Brazen | Then you just login and go nuts. | 22:43 |
| quatroking | nice. | 22:43 |
| quatroking | Just like IPB andphpBB, just install it with a page and everything is configured already | 22:43 |
| Brazen | yeah | 22:44 |
| quatroking | Alright, the LAMP is installed. | 22:45 |
| quatroking | install the phpmyadmin sources now? | 22:45 |
| Brazen | browse to http://localhost first to make sure Apache is workinng | 22:46 |
| quatroking | lets see | 22:46 |
| zul | kirkland: im quasi around | 22:46 |
| quatroking | haha, Ït Works! | 22:47 |
| kirkland | zul: ogey doke... just filed the mir bug for ecryptfs-utils https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/247400 | 22:47 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 247400 in ecryptfs-utils "main inclusion request: ecryptfs-utils" [Undecided,New] | 22:47 |
| zul | kirkland: nifty | 22:47 |
| kirkland | zul: but also, i have a patch that significantly simplifies the MIR for ecryptfs-utils: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/247389 | 22:47 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 247389 in ecryptfs-utils "ecryptfs-utils build should not depend on libltspi or libopencryptoki-dev " [Undecided,New] | 22:47 |
| kirkland | zul: there are a couple of not useful, not required build deps that should be removed | 22:48 |
| quatroking | brazen: install the myphpadmin sources now/ | 22:48 |
| quatroking | ? | 22:48 |
| Brazen | quatroking: then yeah, you should just be able to extract the sources to the document root (I think it's like /var/www/html_docs) and then browse to the setup file | 22:48 |
| kirkland | zul: I've filed it with Debian upstream too: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=490233 | 22:49 |
| uvirtbot | Debian bug 490233 in ecryptfs-utils "ecryptfs-utils build dependencies" [Normal,Open] | 22:49 |
| Brazen | quatroking: you'll probably have to read the phpmyadmin documentation to find out exactly what file you have to browse to. | 22:49 |
| quatroking | How can I obtain full rights to var/www/ again? | 22:49 |
| zul | kirkland: you want me to sponsor that upload tomorrow? | 22:49 |
| kirkland | zul: yes, if the Debian maintainer doesn't take it immediately | 22:49 |
| kirkland | zul: i suspect he will | 22:50 |
| zul | kirkland: nifty if he does we can merge it if he doesnt then we will upload it | 22:50 |
| zul | and im off to the park with liam | 22:50 |
| Brazen | quatroking: I would use sudo to copy the files in there, or else chown the directory to your username ( " sudo chown -R username /var/www" ) | 22:51 |
| quatroking | okay | 22:51 |
| kirkland | zul: adios | 22:51 |
| lamont | so after I create something in /etc/event.d - how do I make the system notice? | 22:52 |
| ScottK | kees or jdstrand: I'm uncertain if Bug #247409 should remain private or not. I'd appreciate it if you'd look and see. | 23:25 |
| uvirtbot | ScottK: Bug 247409 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/247409 is private | 23:25 |
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