| davmor2 | anyone else having issues with auto detection of resolution? | 08:44 |
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| davmor2 | join #ubuntu-quality | 08:45 |
| persia | davmor2: Which video driver? | 08:59 |
| davmor2 | intel | 09:00 |
| persia | Hmm. That's the one driver I haven't seen complaints about. | 09:00 |
| davmor2 | actually I think it might be the monitors fault it does announce it's resolution correctly but I normally get some sort of image that I can adjust latter | 09:01 |
| persia | What are you running? Might this be a symptom of the transition away from bullet-proof X? | 09:07 |
| davmor2 | I'm running intrepid Alpha 2 test i386 and the monitor is a relisys at 1024x768 at 60hz any randr command I use says not screen or something similar so I'm stuffed at the moment | 09:14 |
| davmor2 | persia: is there a way to select a resolution at install time? You used to be able to select or is it all automatic now? | 09:16 |
| persia | davmor2: It's automatic, but can be overridden. As I understand it (I'm not an X expert), there is no xorg.conf by default, and the resolution is selected by analysis of the EDID provided by the monitor. | 09:24 |
| persia | You ought be able to adjust this with xrandr, where that is supported, although I don't know how to set the preference. | 09:25 |
| davmor2 | yeah it the EDID that sucks on the monitor :( | 09:25 |
| persia | You could also force it by adding the right stanza to a custom xorg.conf, which is merged with the autodetected one when X starts. | 09:26 |
| persia | I think there is also a way to specify a custom EDID, although I don't know how that works. | 09:26 |
| davmor2 | persia: thanks I'll look it up | 09:33 |
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| _MMA_ | Hi all. Just wanted to mention Studio has big kernel issues atm and all disks will fail. | 17:42 |
| _MMA_ | We're waiting on upstream issue to be sorted. | 17:43 |
| _MMA_ | I dont even think new disks should be mentioned on the tracker 'till we got it sorted. | 17:44 |
| stgraber | ok | 17:45 |
| _MMA_ | Kinda crappy but I don't want people going through the trouble when I know they will fail 'till the kernels sorted. | 17:46 |
| stgraber | what do you prefer ? removing them from the tracker or marking them as broken ? | 17:47 |
| _MMA_ | Hmm... | 17:48 |
| _MMA_ | Well what? The current disks? | 17:48 |
| stgraber | yes | 17:48 |
| stgraber | I can mark them as broken but that means fixed images will soon be released | 17:48 |
| _MMA_ | Either or really. Your discretion. | 17:48 |
| _MMA_ | well remove then. | 17:49 |
| stgraber | if you don't plan to have fixed images soon (as in ready for Alpha-2) it's better to remove them from the tracker so people don't expect them to come | 17:49 |
| _MMA_ | Yeah. Axe them. | 17:49 |
| _MMA_ | I don't have a solid time-frame for the fix. Certainly not for Alpha2. | 17:49 |
| stgraber | ok, removed | 17:50 |
| _MMA_ | Cool. | 17:50 |
| stgraber | sbeattie: ^ | 17:50 |
| _MMA_ | slangesek: Is there anything I need to handle with you? Should you just not mark disks for Alphas 'till I tell you to? | 17:51 |
| sbeattie | stgraber: cool, thanks for taking care of it. | 17:52 |
| _MMA_ | slangasek: ^^^ | 17:52 |
| * _MMA_ cant type today. | 17:53 | |
| stgraber | _MMA_: no working -rt kernels ? | 17:54 |
| _MMA_ | No sir. Alessio is waiting on something to happen upstream. | 17:54 |
| _MMA_ | Some of it has to do with the scheduler I think. | 17:54 |
| _MMA_ | Alessio is supposed to shoot off a email to the kernel list soon with the details. | 17:55 |
| slangasek | _MMA_: ah, sorry, I was aware UbuntuStudio wasn't a go for the alpha, but hadn't noticed that anything was posted | 17:55 |
| _MMA_ | slangasek: np. Do you want me to just let you know when the kernel issues are sorted so we can get the next alpha after? | 17:56 |
| slangasek | _MMA_: yes, please | 17:57 |
| _MMA_ | Cool. Hopefully this is sorted for Alpha3. | 17:57 |
| _MMA_ | Thanx guys. | 17:59 |
| slangasek | sbeattie: do you happen to know why iso.qa has a comment that "Desktop images are available on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com but are not yet usable"? has someone confirmed them to be broken, or are they just oversized? | 18:48 |
| sbeattie | slangasek: I thought there was comments to that effect in yesterday's QA meeting | 18:49 |
| sbeattie | I haven't confirmed them to be broken, I can add them to the tracker and change the text. | 18:50 |
| sbeattie | slangasek: you wrote yesterday: | 18:51 |
| sbeattie | <slangasek> desktop images are still on the edge of being usable for alpha2; there's nothing there to be tested yet | 18:51 |
| sbeattie | <slangasek> cjwatson is actively working on the ubiquity problems, and we also have to cope with the fact that recommends-by-default has made the ubuntu desktop image 80MB oversized - and kubuntu 200MB oversized :) | 18:52 |
| sbeattie | Has that changed? | 18:52 |
| slangasek | ok, so it was based on my own comments, right :) | 18:52 |
| slangasek | I believe cjwatson iterated through the liveCD images late yesterday to get them working; someone should test to confirm | 18:53 |
| slangasek | (i.e., we should post them and see if they work) | 18:53 |
| cjwatson | they should at least boot | 18:53 |
| cjwatson | on the ubiquity problems, evand is working on that | 18:53 |
| cjwatson | yesterday's didn't boot | 18:53 |
| sbeattie | Okay, I'll add them to the iso tracker, but note that it's expected there are ubiquity problems. | 18:55 |
| sbeattie | "Desktop images are available and should be bootable; however there are known issues with the ubuiquity installer." sound okay? | 18:59 |
| sbeattie | Well, besdies the obvious speeling erors | 19:00 |
| slangasek | hrm, who revved the ISOs listed on the tracker (discarding all the previous test results)? | 21:50 |
| * slangasek blahs at the tracker, not letting him restore the previous entries | 21:51 | |
| slangasek | stgraber: is there some way to bring the 20080709 alternate images back to the page, despite having been superseded (in error)? | 21:53 |
| LaserJock | slangasek: should we not be testing 20080710? | 22:01 |
| slangasek | LaserJock: no, there haven't been any relevant changes between 20080709 and 20080710 for the alternates, and 20080710 only exists because I neglected to disable the cron jobs in time | 22:01 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 22:02 |
| slangasek | and there are already test results for 20080709, there's no reason to discard those in favor of 20080710 | 22:02 |
| LaserJock | I've just downloaded 10, will that work or should I sync to 09 ? | 22:03 |
| slangasek | of which image? | 22:03 |
| LaserJock | all the i386 ones | 22:03 |
| slangasek | alternates -> please use 09; desktop -> 10 | 22:03 |
| LaserJock | k | 22:03 |
| slangasek | and please test desktop first, I'm currently collating the alternate test results for 09 by hand | 22:04 |
| sbeattie | slangasek: sorry, my bad. | 22:04 |
| sbeattie | I should've asked first. | 22:04 |
| stgraber | slangasek: I'm not sure, give me a second to check | 22:05 |
| slangasek | sbeattie: lesson for the future... :) | 22:05 |
| LaserJock | slangasek: what about Server, does that need much testing? | 22:05 |
| slangasek | LaserJock: server has a complete set of tests for the 09 images | 22:05 |
| LaserJock | ah, ok | 22:05 |
| slangasek | well, more or less complete | 22:05 |
| LaserJock | well, I'll start with desktop in any case | 22:06 |
| sbeattie | LaserJock: The server team has some automation in place to do some basic installs and setup. | 22:06 |
| stgraber | someone remove them from the tracker so I can't put them back on it | 22:06 |
| sbeattie | (Or so I've been told, I need to query them about it) | 22:06 |
| slangasek | they do, yes | 22:07 |
| sbeattie | stgraber: removed? No, I just added the 0710 builds, but it replaced the 0709 builds. | 22:07 |
| slangasek | I removed the 0710 builds | 22:07 |
| * sbeattie falls on sword. | 22:07 | |
| slangasek | because that seemed the right way to get rid of them :) | 22:08 |
| slangasek | but it didn't bring 0709 back | 22:08 |
| sbeattie | Yeah, I was actually going to suggest that it'd be nice to display both builds when updated ones get added. | 22:09 |
| slangasek | :notes the line at the bottom of http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/1747/19: "You can't post or edit your result on an archived build or a build being currently rebuilt." | 22:10 |
| slangasek | so it thinks the build is archived or being rebuilt | 22:10 |
| stgraber | we used to have archive access and were able to revive builds from that but it's not possible with the current tracker | 22:14 |
| stgraber | (but it's one of the feature that'll be included in qatracker-ng) | 22:14 |
| slangasek | ok, so I'll continue collating these tests by hand, thanks | 22:16 |
| * slangasek notes that Kubuntu doesn't seem to be getting much testing so far | 22:16 | |
| slangasek | in any of the image iterations | 22:16 |
| sbeattie | I thought bdmurray was poking at kubuntu yesterday, but may not wish to fess up to it. | 22:17 |
| slangasek | heh | 22:17 |
| slangasek | well, the kubuntu alternates that still need testing are http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/1745 and http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/1744 | 22:18 |
| * stgraber tried ubuntu alternate manual and LTSP, both failed :( | 22:19 | |
| stgraber | but that was yesterday, I'll try the new builds | 22:20 |
| slangasek | stgraber: failed how? | 22:20 |
| slangasek | there haven't been any particular changes between yesterday and today on alternate, AFAIK... | 22:20 |
| stgraber | manual failing when creating a custom encrypted LVM setup | 22:21 |
| stgraber | cjwatson is working on a fix for this one | 22:21 |
| stgraber | and LTSP is failing because ltsp-build-client can't access /cdrom | 22:22 |
| stgraber | I poked ogra about this one | 22:22 |
| slangasek | ok; I haven't seen enough progress on either of those to think they'll be fixed for alpha2 | 22:22 |
| slangasek | feel free to test the 20080710 alternate, but if cjwatson hasn't said the bug is fixed... | 22:22 |
| LaserJock | hmm, what is the CD check *supposed* to do when it's done? | 22:22 |
| cjwatson | stgraber: I got it partially fixed this afternoon, but I think maybe not all the way there; the test cycle was fairly long in qemu and I didn't get a chance for a second run to track down the secondary bug I encountered and find out if it was transient or not | 22:25 |
| cjwatson | LaserJock: prompt with status of check, then reboot | 22:26 |
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| LaserJock | cjwatson: interesting | 22:27 |
| LaserJock | I'm trying to Desktop CD tests right now in VMware Player | 22:27 |
| LaserJock | and both the CD Check and LiveCD part boot into a blank tan screen | 22:28 |
| cjwatson | do you see usplash at any point? | 22:28 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 22:28 |
| LaserJock | it's after usplash | 22:29 |
| cjwatson | the cd check should never quit usplash | 22:29 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 22:29 |
| LaserJock | it was throbbing and then after a while it just went to that blank tan screen | 22:29 |
| cjwatson | in the desktop CD, the CD check uses usplash as a frontend, and the last thing it does is reboot | 22:29 |
| LaserJock | CPU seems pegged | 22:29 |
| cjwatson | mine (qemu) hasn't got past the throbber yet ... hmm | 22:29 |
| cjwatson | oddly, casper-md5check seems to work fine when run from a shell in the initramfs | 22:30 |
| cjwatson | I hate trying to debug usplash-level problems | 22:37 |
| cjwatson | because of course none of your output goes anywhere useful | 22:38 |
| LaserJock | cjwatson: ok .... I tried again but in qemu and after a long time it reboots and after a long time with the blank tan screen it gets to the desktop | 23:02 |
| slangasek | stgraber: did the LVM issue have a bug number? | 23:12 |
| sbeattie | LaserJock: did you get any weird screen artifacts while usplash was on cylon mode/ | 23:13 |
| stgraber | cjwatson: did you open one ? | 23:13 |
| sbeattie | s/ on / in / | 23:13 |
| slangasek | "cylon mode" - heh | 23:13 |
| stgraber | people are watching too much BSG :) | 23:14 |
| LaserJock | sbeattie: not in qemu, did get some in VMware Player | 23:14 |
| sbeattie | stgraber: i haven't seen BSG in 20+ years, but cylons are burned into my brain. | 23:14 |
| stgraber | hehe | 23:15 |
| LaserJock | I've never seen BGS or heard of cylons, I just guessed | 23:16 |
| LaserJock | it's scientifically proven that I'm 80% nerd but only 20% geek | 23:16 |
| slangasek | stgraber: and has it been tested that LVM+crypt works when using the stock whole-disk encryption option? | 23:16 |
| stgraber | slangasek: yep, I tried the standard erase disk + encrypted LVM and it worked correctly | 23:17 |
| slangasek | LaserJock: blink; never having seen it I can understand, but never having heard of cylons, wow | 23:17 |
| slangasek | stgraber: ok, great | 23:17 |
| LaserJock | hmmpf, my mouse doesn't work in qemu :/ | 23:18 |
| LaserJock | I wondered why the Trash was being opened every time I clicked | 23:19 |
| LaserJock | it's just stuck in the lower right-hand corner of the desktop | 23:19 |
| sbeattie | LaserJock: I'm seeing the same blank tan screen behavior you are when booting the Desktop disk into CD Check mode. | 23:21 |
| LaserJock | in real life or a VM? | 23:22 |
| sbeattie | In a VM. | 23:22 |
| sbeattie | I'll try in real life. | 23:22 |
| LaserJock | sbeattie: what kind of VM? | 23:22 |
| sbeattie | vmware server | 23:22 |
| LaserJock | interesting | 23:23 |
| sbeattie | Crud, oversized disk is going to make that harder to do. | 23:24 |
| stgraber | use DVD+RW, works fine and fast to burn | 23:24 |
| stgraber | my Sony DVD+RW for ISO testing has been formated + burnt at least 50 times and still work fine :) (never had that kind of result with good old CD-RW) | 23:26 |
| LaserJock | hmm, you guys seen a complaint about not being able to find the initrd while booting? | 23:27 |
| LaserJock | right after networking it says it can't find it, that doesn't seem like a good thing | 23:27 |
| stgraber | I'm download desktop amd64 at the moment but that looks weird, how could it boot without the initrd ? | 23:28 |
| stgraber | *downloading | 23:29 |
| * stgraber looks at Desktop test results ... I'm not sure we can consider what looks like a VB bug a fail for all those testcases ... | 23:33 | |
| sbeattie | Sigh, not only does my laptop not have a DVD burner, but my crash box is sufficiently elderly enough to not have a DVD drive. | 23:41 |
| slangasek | stgraber: so on the LVM bug, it looks like parted 1.8.8.git.2008.03.24-7ubuntu2 includes the partial fix cjwatson mentioned; should I roll a fresh alternate CD for you to test? | 23:43 |
| stgraber | would be great yes | 23:43 |
| slangasek | ok, building | 23:44 |
| stgraber | sbeattie: no screen artifacts in KVM (so far) | 23:44 |
| slangasek | stgraber: erm, yes, who is it that's been reporting all these failures? | 23:45 |
| slangasek | I'm doing an i386 alternate test now, because all the i386 reports were also marked as failures for the same reason | 23:46 |
| slangasek | so I want to see if the kernel is actually broken for me, or just in vb... | 23:46 |
| stgraber | hmm, after cylon-mode in Check CD I just get a black screen ... I guess at this point it was supposed to ask me to reboot ? | 23:47 |
| slangasek | probably | 23:47 |
| slangasek | stgraber: anyway, is there any way we could get this afflux person to test in an environment that's not known-broken? | 23:48 |
| stgraber | he's a new tester ... he created his account 5 days ago | 23:49 |
| stgraber | I'll see if he's on IRC | 23:49 |
| stgraber | left IRC 30 minutes ago :( | 23:50 |
| slangasek | well, maybe that means he's done testing for the night ;) | 23:50 |
| sbeattie | stgraber: I got screen artifacts in cylon-mode right away on my real hardware; I'm now verifying my iso's md5sum | 23:51 |
| stgraber | sbeattie: ok, I seem to have some problems with testing in KVM here ... | 23:51 |
| stgraber | after cylon-mode I just get a black screen even when trying a standard boot of the live environment ... | 23:51 |
| LaserJock | stgraber: that's what I'm getting with VMware Player | 23:52 |
| LaserJock | or wait | 23:52 |
| LaserJock | mine isn't black, it's tan | 23:52 |
| stgraber | well, it doesn't get to the point where the X server starts and you get into gnome ... so not very useful for testing :( | 23:53 |
| stgraber | I'm trying without usplash now | 23:53 |
| stgraber | same result, it actually gets black when starting X :( | 23:57 |
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