[00:00] <Dedicated> Shujah: only 1 program, nothing to ocnfigure
[00:00] <Shujah> Dedicated, and the program is?
[00:00] <sn9_> Dre1: which driver are you using?
[00:00] <Dedicated> Shujah: totem-xine
[00:01] <troglobyte> is there a way to blow out my entire sound config and reconfigure for new hardware?
[00:01] <vaportrailnew123> i still cant get my second moniter to work as a second moniter
[00:01] <Dre1> sn9_: I don't know... looking in the restricted drivers I'm not seeing the bcmxx-fwcutter package I normally see in laptops with Broadcom cards.  I think the device isn't reading.
[00:01] <nael> hiptobecubic, I have to edit the xorg.conf file to use gsynaptics. Where can I find this file?
[00:01] <sn9_> Dre1: is your card a broadcom?
[00:02] <Dre1> sn9_: Yes, I checked by opening the darn thing up.
[00:02] <sn9_> nael: /etc/X11
[00:02] <hiptobecubic> nael, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:02] <vaportrailnew123> any suggestions as to how i can get my other screen to stop being a clone?
[00:02] <sn9_> Dre1: connect with wires, and sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[00:02] <Dre1> sn9_: Will do.
[00:03] <Shujah> Dedicated: sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer < then config totem and change it to gstramer backend
[00:03] <kiyiko> ok, so i boot into ubuntu, and sometimes it will not load the gui, or anyhting. it loads into something called busybox,
[00:03] <shamike> will i be able to install ubuntu on one computer then put the hard drive on another computer will it work?
[00:03] <trashguy> vaportrailnew123, i suggested google: ubuntu dual head
[00:03] <vaportrailnew123> i tried that
[00:03] <Shujah> Dedicated, gstreamer core package is not installed or there would have been two options in the config menu xine and gstreamer
[00:04] <vaportrailnew123> but that seems like it just makes it one big screen that spans two
[00:04] <trashguy> you could even click im feeling lucky
[00:04] <Dre1> sn9_: It has installed, what should I do now?
[00:04] <trashguy> vaportrailnew123, what are u trying to do?
[00:04] <vaportrailnew123> i need ubuntu to recognize that i have 2 moniters so i can use a certain program
[00:04] <sn9_> Dre1: it asked to download firmware, right?
[00:04] <Dre1> sn9_: Yes, and it insalled.  I enable it, right?
[00:04] <pan023432> firefox32 glitchy?
[00:04] <sn9_> Dre1: try
[00:05] <Dre1> sn9_: Will do!
[00:05] <pan023432> Segmentation fault?
[00:05] <vaportrailnew123> i have a program called lyricue that displays song lyrics on one screen as you select them on the other screen.
[00:05] <Nuke11> Do I have to install my camera driver because I got my camera working on camorama, I'm assuming my camera driver is already supported by ubuntu?
[00:05] <Shujah> Nuke11, webcam or digi cam?
[00:05] <trashguy> vaportrailnew123, haveyou tried system > pref > screen res
[00:05] <vaportrailnew123> yes
[00:05] <Dre1> Nuke11: if it works in a program its driver is installed.  Pretty sure of that.
[00:06] <vaportrailnew123> it keeps going back to clone screen even after i uncheck the clone option
[00:06] <vaportrailnew123> i even tried resetting
[00:06] <Nuke11> my camera is logitech
[00:06] <Dedicated> Shujah: i thought that it should run with gstreamer when using kaffein-gstreamer, but as i see it dont stop anymore, but playing since beginning with 1fps :>
[00:07] <Nuke11> If my logitech camera is worknig I'm assumnig it's installed
[00:07] <Dedicated> Shujah: but thanks, i now have a better start point to solve it :)
[00:07] <Shujah> np :)
[00:07] <pan023432> is there any way to see hidden files in konsole
[00:07] <vaportrailnew123> in the display manager, the other screen shows up as unkown.
[00:08] <vaportrailnew123> what/how do i get drivers so that ubuntu will recognize what kind of moniter it is
[00:08] <Dre1> sn9_: Thank you very much.  I didn't know that it wouldn't show up on the menu... doesn't the live CD ship the package...?
[00:08] <macrobad> pan023432: ls -a
[00:08] <sn9_> vaportrailnew123: typically, that happens out-of-the-box, but some monitors don't say
[00:08] <glitsj16> vaportrailnew123: if you have an nvidia card you can adjust settings to your xorg.conf for dual monitors with the nvidia-settings package ..
[00:09] <sn9_> Dre1: nope
[00:09] <pan023432> k thx
[00:09] <ltcabral> how does xmms2 work? i run xmms2 with alt+f2 and nothing happens!!
[00:09] <vaportrailnew123> would i automaticly have nvidia drivers installed?
[00:09] <Dre1> sn9_: It used to on Gutsy!  I know that for a FACT.  But thanks anyways.  Have a nice day!
[00:09] <trashguy> vaportrailnew123, negative
[00:09] <glitsj16> vaportrailnews123: what card do you have ?
[00:09] <Shujah> vaportrailnew123, depends try looking at restricted drivers
[00:09] <trashguy> it hsoul dof prompted
[00:09] <vaportrailnew123> already looked at the restricted
[00:09] <Voort> my 7.10 Ubuntu SERVER refuses to all me to upgrade it to 8.04, does someone have a minute to help me?
[00:10] <vaportrailnew123> im running on a laptop, and it has an onboard graphics card
[00:10] <vaportrailnew123> it is an intel-based chipset
[00:10] <glitsj16> vaportrailnew123: what does "lspci | grep VGA" show ?
[00:11] <Shujah> vaportrailnew123, terminal > glxinfo | grep direct
[00:11] <untraceable> i dont think my internal nic is recognized in ubuntu wat do i need to do
[00:11] <Guiri> glitsj16: that didn't quite work as planned. It tries to force the user to connect at https://domain.com:80/site/
[00:11] <Guiri> it's still through port 80 using those instructions, am I missing something?
[00:11] <sn9_> untraceable: ethernet, or wifi?
[00:11] <kkathman> is there anything I need to do special to get my ipod to mount in ubuntu Hardy ??
[00:11] <vaportrailnew123> direct rendering=yes
[00:12] <untraceable> its a wireless card but i think its both
[00:12] <kkathman> I plugged it into the USB and it seems "alive" but the system doesnt seem to know
[00:12] <billgoldberg> kkathman
[00:12] <Dasuraga> is there a way to just reinstall all sound drivers?
[00:12] <genii> Voort: Usually you would want to do: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core                      then issue: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[00:12] <billgoldberg> you'll need some special software
[00:12] <billgoldberg> in add/remove serach for ipdo
[00:12] <kkathman> billgoldberg,  ahh  ok
[00:12] <vaportrailnew123> where should i post my terminal info? i noticed people frown upon my copy-pasting it directly here
[00:12] <billgoldberg> *ipod
[00:12] <sn9_> kkathman: depends -- was it formatted for mac, or pc?
[00:13] <Voort> genii: sounds like a plan, I will try that...
[00:13] <Nubbie> !webcam
[00:13] <kkathman> sn9_,  hmm dunno ..I use it with my windows pc and itunes (used to)
[00:13] <untraceable> in backtrack its eth0 ath0 and wifi0
[00:13] <vaportrailnew123> kenny@kenny-laptop:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[00:13] <vaportrailnew123> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[00:13] <billgoldberg> I might note, that the newest ipods might not have support
[00:13] <glitsj16> Guiri: can you paste your relevant apache configs please, hard to tell just off the bat
[00:13] <billgoldberg> blame apple for that
[00:13] <Guiri> glitsj16: sure.
[00:13] <sn9_> kkathman: then "mounting" it is as simple as putting it in storage mode, but for itunes-like song management, install gtkpod
[00:14] <Synx_hm_> Anyone know if there is a workaround to get the Canon LIDE 600 series and the like working under linux/ubuntu?
[00:14] <vaportrailnew123> glitsj16: any idea what i should do?
[00:14] <Dasuraga> "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback."
[00:14] <glitsj16> vaportrailnew123: so you have an intel card, obviously what i refered to before using the nvidia-settings package isn't going to work in your situation sorry
[00:14] <Dasuraga> anybody know what that error means?
[00:14] <kkathman> sn9_,  ok, I'll try, but when I plug it into the USB nothing happens - seems like I remember in gutsy it just mounted automatically
[00:14] <kkathman> but I could be wrong
[00:14] <khin> woooo i just updated dapper to hardy and now totem actually can play stuff
[00:14] <khin> wooooooo
[00:14] <vaportrailnew123> glitsj16
[00:15] <nano__> I was moving a partition via gparted and the system just shutdown..?
[00:15] <glitsj16> vaportrailnew123: don't know the first thing bout intel chipsets
[00:15] <macrobad> vaportrailnew123: I've always thought that calling machine "Kenny" is a bad sign... Perhaps, I'm superstitious! :)
[00:15] <vaportrailnew123> lol
[00:15] <billgoldberg> vapor, I have an intel chipset
[00:15] <CoolFox> ello?
[00:15] <trashguy> intel sux
[00:15] <Voort> genii, it appears to be working.  I will let you know more soon.  Thanks!
[00:15] <billgoldberg> what do you need to know
[00:15] <billgoldberg>  
[00:15] <trashguy> for graphics ;(
[00:15] <billgoldberg> ?
[00:15] <sn9_> untraceable: do you see eth0, ath0, and wifi0 in ubuntu, too?
[00:15] <vaportrailnew123> macro: its my first name
[00:15] <trashguy> they grief me so hard
[00:15] <libwilliam> cd irc.freenode.net
[00:15] <nano__> I have now rebooted, and everything seems normal, except the partition has not moved......does that mean everything is normal?
[00:15] <untraceable> no i see nothing
[00:15] <CoolFox> i need some help running skype on the 64-bit version of Hardy.
[00:15] <Guiri> glitsj16: this is the main. essentially I want all 80 traffic rewritten to *.443, https. http://paste.ubuntu.com/26321/
[00:15] <trashguy> vaportrailnew123, i only have th ebuiltin onbopard or else id help
[00:16] <Guiri> this is default, but when I enabled my ssl (a copy of default but with *.443, nothing happens
[00:16] <billgoldberg> coolfox, did you try the medibuntu repo?
[00:16] <WalloO> trashguy, intel work well....
[00:16] <glitsj16> Guiri: ok, give me a few minutes to go over those, i'll report back
[00:16] <CoolFox> the... the wha?
[00:16] <sn9_> macrobad: i know a machine named kenny for exactly that reason
[00:16] <vaportrailnew123> anyone know how to help me get my onboard intel video card thingy working?
[00:16] <Guiri> glitsj16: np thanks
[00:16] <mediclawren> does ubuntu have a server edition?
[00:16] <billgoldberg> google for medibuntu
[00:16] <WalloO> trashguy, haaa.. for graphics you are right... :)
[00:16] <genii> Voort: Yu're welcome
[00:16] <CoolFox> mediclawren, yeah, it does.
[00:16] <billgoldberg> install it on your system, and reinstall skype
[00:16] <macrobad> sn9_: Windows server? ^^
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> trashguy: I uninstalled everything in synaptic and am going to try running this script: http://oui.com.br/n/content.php?article.23
[00:16] <trashguy> couldnt convince my boss to let me put in an 8800
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> Looks awesome.
[00:17] <CoolFox> um... i don't really want to re-install.
[00:17] <mediclawren> please coolfox does it have any differences with the desktop ed?
[00:17] <WalloO> trashguy, by the way, I'm interrested in knowing what their future video chip will be (multy x86 core)... that sound strange...
[00:17] <sn9_> macrobad: no, linux reinstallation testbed
[00:17] <ltcabral> can someone help me with audacious? i open a music but it doesnt play
[00:17] <nano__> I was moving a partition via gparted, and all of a sudden my system just shutdown.  Now, I have restarted and it seems that everything is normal except that the partition has not moved.  Should I reinstall system?
[00:17] <CoolFox> yeah, no graphics front end built in, and its a bit more robust mediclawren
[00:17] <billgoldberg> coolfox, well, that's all I can suugest
[00:17] <sttng359> Hello, I am having problems with ldapsearch and SSL.
[00:18] <sttng359> It says can't contact LDAP server
[00:18] <billgoldberg> just try it, it should only take 1 minutre
[00:18] <billgoldberg> *minute
[00:18] <sn9_> macrobad: the system dies every time, because it gets wiped
[00:18] <mediclawren> yeah man thanks a lot
[00:18] <mediclawren> please another question
[00:18] <sttng359> LDAP server is running on a Fedora Core computer and a seperate fedora core workstation can authenticate with and without SSL.
[00:18] <billgoldberg> I'm off
[00:18] <billgoldberg> bye
[00:18] <sttng359> ldapsearch on ubuntu can only authenticate without SSL and can't connect with SSL.
[00:19] <mediclawren> i installed ubuntu guess what made me uninst?
[00:19] <kkathman> sn9_,  yeah that doesnt seem to work :(
[00:19] <Shujah> ltcabral, audacious does not support pulseaudio change the default sound server to alsa it'll work then
[00:19] <kiyiko> when i try to boot ubuntu, it goes to busybox, and repeats something about how it cannot move cooling device. any ideas?
[00:19] <vaportrailnew123> should i be trying to modify the bios of my video card???
[00:19] <macrobad> sn9_: Yeah, it's all in the name! :)
[00:19] <CoolFox> so, my problem is when i try to compile skype from source, it says i'm using the wrong version, but there isn't any other version to comple from!
[00:19] <kiyiko> i am unable to boot into the os
[00:19] <kkathman> sn9_,  when you said putting it in "storage" mode..what did you mean?
[00:19] <CoolFox> it says i need to use a 64 bit version, but there doesn't appear to be one.
[00:19] <epitron> is there a way that i can get apt-get's dependency system think that mplayer is installed, without installing its own mplayer package?
[00:20] <sn9_> kkathman: whatever you do to make it appear like an external drive
[00:20] <mediclawren> yeah there is no 64 bit v 4 it
[00:20] <ltcabral> Shujah, thanks
[00:20] <epitron> (i've got a nice mplayer SVN build that i prefer)
[00:20] <Jaco> Hola
[00:20] <Jaco> Alguien me ayuda
[00:20] <Jaco> Jeje
[00:20] <sn9_> !es | Jaco
[00:20] <kkathman> sn9_,  well currently all I've done is plug it into the USB - the Ipod lights up...but the system knows nothing about it that I can tell
[00:20] <CoolFox> so, mediclawren, am i humped?
[00:21] <Jaco> Si
[00:21] <Jaco> Soy jaco
[00:21] <CoolFox> soy sauce?
[00:21] <vaportrailnew123> arg! me need intel chipset support! trying to get two screens to work independantly
[00:21] <mediclawren> yeah man
[00:21] <WalloO> kkathman, your ipod is probably not in fat32.
[00:21] <nano__> Is it common for gparted live cd to just shutdown the system?
[00:21] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm a little rusty... why would my network settings need a DNS server for 192.168.1.1 for my router? or is that like... everything goes through that address?
[00:21] <mouseboyx> How do you mount a cardreader?
[00:21] <CoolFox> g'damn this channel moves fast.
[00:21] <mediclawren> but presto ubuntu has a 64 bit ver
[00:22] <Voort> nah, CoolFox you just read slow ;-)
[00:22] <kkathman> WalloO, wellm if that was the case I'd probably get a message that it cant be mounted
[00:22] <CoolFox> are you calling wikipedians slow?
[00:22] <CoolFox> :)
[00:22] <Chaotic_Descent> there's no settings... it's just an IP address... is it going in, coming out? I can't figure this out.
[00:22] <kkathman> but Im not getting even that
[00:22] <mediclawren> i guess u cant change os because of just one app
[00:22] <erUSUL> Chaotic_Descent: maybe your router has a caching dns proxy
[00:22] <sn9_> CoolFox: soy == "i'm"
[00:22] <untraceable> anyone know why my atheros internal nic isnt recognized
[00:22] <CoolFox> thats the channel that i'm comparing for basis.
[00:22] <WalloO> kkathman, you should format the main partition as fat32. Simplest way is to plug it on a PC with itune, it should ask you to convert it or something like that
[00:22] <CoolFox> sn9_, thnks.
[00:22] <cee> Anyone got kiba-dock to run smoothly yet?
[00:22] <hiptobecubic> i have internet access just fine except for aol in pidgin. When i tell pidgin to use a proxy for the protocol, it works. when i tell it to use gnome settings (which are clearly working just fine) it says that it can't resolve the host name
[00:22] <glitsj16> Guiri: check if this works any better .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/26323/
[00:22] <Chaotic_Descent> erUSUL: no, it's an Ubuntu setting, not a router setting. I can't connect to my router.
[00:23] <mouseboyx> What is the dameon that automounts usb devices in gnome?
[00:23] <WalloO> kkathman, not really, since the partition format may be unknown. Try fdisk -l
[00:23] <kkathman> ok
[00:23] <sttng359> Anyone have an idea why ldapsearch and friends don't appear to be able to use SSL/TLS?
[00:23] <CoolFox> hey, what's that other fdisk program, slackware has it too.
[00:23] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, chnage the dns to 127.0.0.1 (i,e, local host) put the router on roaming mode and check
[00:23] <sn9_> WalloO: he said he used it in windows, so it must be known
[00:23] <Chaotic_Descent> and I don't even know what a caching DNS proxy is...
[00:23] <WalloO> sn9_, you're right
[00:23] <Simulous> hey if i set up ubuntu server as a VM can i use something on it as a gateway to enable to me manage network traffic from certain hosts on my network. or any apps i could install on my ubuntu desktop machine to do the same thing? thanks
[00:23] <WalloO> kkathman, try sudo fdisk -l
[00:24] <kkathman> WalloO,  nope its not listed
[00:24] <kkathman> my other drives are tho
[00:24] <Chaotic_Descent> 127.0.0.1... I'll try that. I'll be back when I can break and fix my internet again...
[00:24] <sn9_> WalloO: by any chance, did you plug it into a usb hub?
[00:24] <WalloO> kkathman, ha... that'S sound very strange. I have a last generation nano and it works perfectely
[00:24] <unop> kkathman, does dmesg have anything to say about it?
[00:24] <sn9_> kkathman: by any chance, did you plug it into a usb hub?
[00:24] <Simulous> sorry to just dive in and ask
[00:25] <kkathman> sn9_,  no no its a usb on the back of my computer
[00:25] <kkathman> sn9_,  the unit was getting REALLY hot thought - that seems a bit abnormal
[00:25] <vaportrailnew123> so, anyone know how to get an intel chipset laptop to be able to use two displays independantly?
[00:25] <sn9_> kkathman: does it show up in lsusb?
[00:25] <Shujah> vaportrailnew123, dude you got nvidia
[00:25] <kkathman> lemme see
[00:26] <nickr-> i have a partition question
[00:26] <Shujah> vaportrailnew123, have you installed nvidia-setting manager?
[00:26] <mediclawren> vaportrailnew123 wchich os r u running
[00:26] <unop> vaportrailnew123, have you seen the !dualhead wiki?
[00:26] <vaportrailnew123> tell me how shu
[00:26] <nano__> should the md5sum of an iso on dvd and an iso file on my /home be the same?
[00:26] <vaportrailnew123> dualhead wont work for what im doing
[00:26] <unop> nano_, yes
[00:26] <nickr-> i have a 500g HDD, how much should i put on my swap and boot partitions???
[00:26] <kkathman> sn9_,  nope the only thing thats showing on lssub is the trackball
[00:26] <unop> nano_, if they were meant to be the same file i.e.
[00:26] <Shujah> vaportrailnew123, via synaptic download nvidia setting manager
[00:27] <mouseboyx> what is the command to run the gnome automounter in gnome-volume manager?
[00:27] <WalloO> vaportrailnew123, you mean dual screen to have a large desktop? If yes, I can't help you since I never tested it... But it may be difficult.... With nvidia and ati, this functionnality is mostly provided by proprietary drivers
[00:27] <vaportrailnew123> k, thankies
[00:27] <nickr-> i have 60,000 cylinders
[00:27] <sn9_> kkathman: then you've got bigger problems
[00:27] <unop> kkathman,  dmesg | tail -n 30 # see if anything is said about your ipod or usb devices
[00:27] <CoolFox> in a truck?
[00:27] <nickr-> no, lol
[00:27] <Guiri> glitsj16: thank you. it appears to be working if you browse to the domain that was int eh pastebine. However nothing shows up. I assume I need to copy the default and name it ssl, enable it, and change the port to 443?
[00:27] <epimeth> anybody here frequent #kubuntu?
[00:27] <kkathman> unop ok 1 sec
[00:27] <CoolFox> lol.
[00:27] <sn9_> kkathman: what unop said
[00:27] <Guiri> and also take out the rewrite rule glitsj16 ?
[00:27] <nickr-> can u help me fox
[00:27] <CoolFox> maybe
[00:27] <nickr-> i have 60k cylinders to put into 3 partitinos
[00:27] <WalloO> nickr-, put as much swap as your memory, or two times more. However, if you hae 4Gb of ram, swap is nearly useless... :)
[00:27] <nickr-> partitions
[00:27] <CoolFox> hang on, lemme read the thread
[00:28] <unop> kkathman, actually, unplug and plug it back in and run that command
[00:28] <vaportrailnew123> im trying to use a program that requires the system to be able to recognize a second display
[00:28] <glitsj16> Guiri: yes copy the default indeed and only use the new rewriterule
[00:28] <maconga> Is is possible to downgrade the Linux Kernal in Xubuntu 8.04.1 ?
[00:28] <unop> !dualhead | vaportrailnew123
[00:28] <CoolFox> for swap, i'd reccomend 2 times the ammount of RAM you got.
[00:28] <vaportrailnew123> i know, dualhead WONT WORK!!!
[00:28] <CoolFox> for boot, everything else, unless you want your home folder separte too.
[00:28] <nickr-> i have 3gigs of ram
[00:28] <nano__> has anybody here ever had gparted just shutdown on them?
[00:28] <CoolFox> eiyah!
[00:28] <Guiri> glitsj16: let me make sure I understand, copy everything in the default and delete the section in it about the rewrite since the 80 already rewrites? I'm sorry for this but I'm new
[00:28] <CoolFox> 3 gigs?
[00:28] <vaportrailnew123> it makes it think theres 1 big screen, where i need it to recognize that there are two
[00:29] <CoolFox> fine, 6 GB partition.
[00:29] <genii> maconga: Yes, just remove the one you don't want in the package manager and it will default back to the last one
[00:29] <Shujah> CoolFox, thats when ram is 1 gb or less, if one has 2 gb ram formula changes to ram = swap
[00:29] <glitsj16> maconga: it's possible;, but why not make a lower one default in GRUb ?
[00:29] <unop> CoolFox, that's for something under 512MB -- you rarely will use 2X RAM for swap if you have anything more than that
[00:29] <epimeth> more specifically, can anyone here unban me from #kubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic?  I've been having connection issues so they are forwarding me to ##fix_your_connection
[00:29] <sn9_> vaportrailnew123: you mean cloning?
[00:29] <WalloO> CoolFox, 2times is good, but for me, I never use more than 20% of my ram... Swap is useless in my case... :)
[00:29] <glitsj16> Guiri: hang on, i'll join you in pm to make sure there's no misunderstabndings about the paste ok
[00:29] <nickrud> epimeth, /j #ubuntu-ops
[00:30] <nixnoob> why cant i have more than 1 desktop workspace on compiz?
[00:30] <unop> WalloO, you don't hibernate? :)
[00:30] <WalloO> CoolFox, the more you have ram, the less you need swap
[00:30] <vaportrailnew123> i dont want cloning, and that dual program wont work for what im doing
[00:30] <kkathman> !pastebin
[00:30] <epimeth> nickrud: cheers
[00:30] <maconga> The Kernal in 8.04 does not like my wifi card, but a kernal in 7.10 will use it.... I can't downgrade to 7.10 because I have to use Wubi
[00:30] <Simulous> anyone know off an app i can use with ubuntu to act as a gateway to enable me to manage traffic from certain hosts?
[00:30] <Chaotic_Descent> Ok, DNS 127.0.0.1 didn't do anything.
[00:30] <CoolFox> well, its not gonna kill to have a 6 gig swap, right?
[00:30] <CoolFox> :)
[00:30] <mediclawren> my sound cant just work
[00:30] <Shujah> nixnoob, you must have configured compiz to use one
[00:30] <kkathman> sn9_,   see paste:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/26325/
[00:30] <unop> Simulous, manage traffic in what way exactly?
[00:30] <WalloO> unop, no. I never be able to hibernate with my system. But hibernating 4GB of ram may take to much time... :)
[00:31] <nano__> man gparted sucks
[00:31] <Chaotic_Descent> why does the pppoeconf put in two DNS servers? is one incoming and one outgoing or something? I still don't understand what a single IP address has to do with DNS servers.
[00:31] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, restart networking and dont forget to put the connection on roaming mode
[00:31] <sn9_> maconga: which card?
[00:31] <xTheGoat121x> Afternoon everyone
[00:31] <unop> WalloO, it shouldn't if you set the swappiness of your kernel right :)
[00:31] <xTheGoat121x> It seems like both my panels and my menus are larger than they were on Gutsy
[00:31] <maconga> sn9_: Linksys Wrt54g Version 4.1
[00:31] <Simulous> to share bandwith evenly :o) my router doesnt go as far as throttling bandwidth
[00:31] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, you using dsl or dial up?
[00:31] <HymnToLife> Chaotic_Descent: you have two DNS servers so you can still browse the Web if one breaks
[00:31] <trashguy> WalloO, i hibernate 4gb ram, but i got a raid 0 setup
[00:31] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: my network settings are set to roaming all the time to begin with. I can't change the router's settings since I can't connect to it. I've been resetting network settings with every damned Ubuntu command I know of.
[00:32] <sn9_> maconga: no, the wifi in your computer
[00:32] <WalloO> unop, ha... I'm not used to hibernating with linux
[00:32] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: DSL
[00:32] <Dewente> hello every one
[00:32] <Shujah> yup one is primary dns and other is secondary if primary is unaccessible system will switch to secndary
[00:32] <Dewente> hello
[00:32] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, wireless or wired?
[00:32] <maconga> sn9_:that is the card in the computer
[00:32] <nixnoob> how can I make an application always start on a particular workspace?
[00:32] <Simulous> its a shared connection on a GB switch, attached to that a router > cable modem. 3 ppl share the connection and one of those doesnt seem to be able to stop hammering my connection so i want to divide it evenly
[00:32] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: wired.
[00:32] <Dewente> i have a question
[00:33] <Dewente> please
[00:33] <WalloO> trashguy, I can't hibernate.... Not enough swap... :(
[00:33] <sn9_> maconga: wrt54g is a router
[00:33] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, can you see network config icon in ntification place?
[00:33] <Dewente> hi
[00:33] <Dewente> hi
[00:33] <Dewente> hi
[00:33] <chriswr> does anyone know any cool looking stuff for my desktop?
[00:33] <trashguy> Simulous, what kind of router/
[00:33] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm so glad that lately I've been able to reconnect to the internet without having to reboot or spend an hour fiddling with settings..
[00:33] <sn9_> maconga: do you mean wpc54g?
[00:33] <kkathman> sn9_,  if you check that post - Im not sure I see anything odd - except that line 37
[00:33] <WalloO> maconga, and a good router when loaded with ddwrt... :)
[00:33] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: what is that?
[00:33] <unop> kkathman, does this give you anything?   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc1
[00:33] <Pici> !ask | Dewente
[00:34] <Dewente> how can i active root at ubuntu server ?
[00:34] <Penopticon> chriswr: Go to  Gnome-look.org.
[00:34] <Shujah> thats an icon with two small computers can you see one in panel notification area
[00:34] <maconga> sn9_: let me check my...
[00:34] <Simulous> linksys wrt54G i did change the OS on it but didnt have desired effects :( .
[00:34] <skrag> so i have hardy and i love it accept i usualy wait till theres a bunch of updates before i download them and everytime i seem to update it, it adds 2 entrys to my grub menu.... it ads just a repeat of what it had before so i have like 3 entrys for ubuntu and 3 entrys for safe mode... anyone know why it might be adding itself to my grub over and over?
[00:34] <sn9_> !RootSudo | Dewente
[00:34] <kkathman> unop no, nothing
[00:34] <chriswr> penopticon: ok will do that  , thnx
[00:34] <unop> skrag, those are entries for different kernels -- it's normal
[00:34] <Dewente> rootsudo | dewente ?
[00:35] <WalloO> Simulous, I loaded mine with ddwrt and it works very well. I have v8
[00:35] <Simulous> + it would be easyer and better to set up a virtual machine on my server
[00:35] <kkathman> unop heres the  pastebin on what you asked for  http://paste.ubuntu.com/26325/
[00:35] <xTheGoat121x> Has anyone noticed that Hardy's interface looks bigger than Gutsy's?
[00:35] <unop> skrag, and they shouldn't be the same -- you'll notice that each kernel has a different version number
[00:35] <unop> it appears to me that your device is being detected but is disconnected after it settles down - it doesn;t say why -- this might suggest that the ipod has problems -- try rebooting your ipod with it plugged into the computer
[00:35] <unop> kkathman, ^^
[00:35] <skrag> unop thanks, so i have to go into grub and delete the ones i dont want?
[00:35] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: right click or left click? left click I get only "manual configuration"
[00:35] <jamus> anybody knows  how i can modify this ariticle to work   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789824
[00:35] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, right click and open
[00:36] <Dewente> sudoroot | dewente ?
[00:36] <Simulous> yeah mine too :) i think it didnt work because of the version :) it was a while ago, then all i wanted was a bigger port forwarding table cus the provided one is uselessly small!
[00:36] <Simulous> :P
[00:36] <unop> skrag, no, just remove the older kernels from synaptic -- but i suggest you keep atleast one working older kernel installed just incase you run into problems with the new current one
[00:36] <Shujah> sorry left click and open manual confguration
[00:36] <Simulous> version of router i mean*
[00:36] <kkathman> unop - lol reboot the ipod ??
[00:36] <jamus> i need Atheros AR5007 driver pls
[00:36] <vaportrailnew123> is there a task-manager-like program that i can use in linux? such as a gui ver of terminal specifically used to looking at/closing current tasks?
[00:36] <sn9_> kkathman: something is wrong with your ipod hardware
[00:36] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: right click gives me "enable networking", a greyed out "connection information", "edit wireless networks", and "about".
[00:36] <Dewente> jamus i guees i can help you
[00:36] <unop> kkathman, press Menu and the center button, and hold down for about 4 seconds
[00:37] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, left click open the manual setting menu and unlock it
[00:37] <kkathman> ahh ok
[00:37] <skrag> unop is it really worth it to get the newest kernel what do you think? do you get every one?
[00:37] <sn9_> jamus: google it
[00:37] <Dewente> give 1 minute for looking a web with that  jamus
[00:37] <unop> kkathman, that's how i reboot my ipod classic -- should work on the newer nanos and probably other ipods too
[00:37] <jamus> Dewente:  i would rely lik that u do
[00:37] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: oh yeah. where I change the DNS settings. ok.
[00:37] <xtknight> vaportrailnew123, gnome-system-monitor
[00:37] <Penopticon> vaportrailnew123: Try pushing Crtl and Esc at the same time and wait for the window to come up.
[00:37] <unop> skrag, i don't usually upgrade kernels very often, unless i am forced too because of hardware issues or package dependencies
[00:38] <jamus> Dewente:  im stuck on it for several days now
[00:38] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, now you'll see a wired connection line click it and open its properties
[00:38] <vaportrailnew123> how do i start a program with a dif prog as root?
[00:38] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: and then what?
[00:38] <maconga> sn9_: This is my wifi card, WMP54G Version 4.1
[00:38] <unop> skrag, but it shouldn't be a problem installing the newer kernels -- if you do install one, make sure you have an older one as failover
[00:38] <pan023432> how do u unzip a file in linux
[00:38] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: because it's in roaming mode.
[00:38] <unop> pan023432, use unzip :)
[00:38] <sn9_> maconga: ok, checking...
[00:38] <xTheGoat121x> Is there a way to make panels smaller than 23 pixels?
[00:38] <pan023432> k
[00:38] <pan023432> thx
[00:38] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, now are the addresses filled, ip, gateway etc
[00:38] <skrag> thanks for the facts unop you guys in here always know your shit
[00:39] <kkathman> unop  well I keep getting that No battery power remains - please hook the ipod to power - maybe thats part of the problem
[00:39] <unop> pan023432, you might need to install unzip tho
[00:39] <pan023432> is there any way to tar a file to a certain directory
[00:39] <Pici> Dewente: Floodbot1 is not a person
[00:39] <pan023432> if downloaded tar file to desktop?
[00:39] <kkathman> ahh its not saying that now
[00:39] <vaportrailnew123> how do i make a shortcut for an application so i can place it on the quickstart bar?
[00:39] <pan023432> but want to send it to /usr/share/fluxbox/styles
[00:39] <Penopticon> pan023432: you should be able to just double click in Ubuntu.
[00:39] <unop> kkathman, errm, that could very well be the problem -- charge it up for a bit, if you have an external power suplly
[00:39] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: no. but right now I'm connected to the internet, not my router. (although you'd think I'd have an IP for the internet. I'm sure I do, but there's nothing in the greyed out areas)
[00:39] <legend2440> xTheGoat121x: yes.  right click panel>properties>size
[00:39] <Dewente> Pici ?
[00:39] <pan023432> click and d rag?
[00:39] <pan023432> k
[00:40] <kkathman> ok
[00:40] <Myrtti> Dewente: it's a bot
[00:40] <jin_> what is the app called to install a .emerald theme file?
[00:40] <Pici> Dewente: Its a bot, a program that manages the channel.
[00:40] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, how do you access your router > 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1
[00:40] <Dewente> excuse toy day is my first
[00:40] <xTheGoat121x> legend2440, yeah, but the system doesn't allow going smaller then 23 pxels
[00:40] <Dewente> today
[00:40] <LimCore> hi
[00:40] <untraceable-> does ubuntu support atheros ar5006x
[00:40] <unop> pan023432, sudo tar xvf file.tar -C /usr/share/fluxbox/styles
[00:41] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: .1.1
[00:41] <pan023432> - c is for?
[00:41] <sn9_> maconga: install the pkgs linux-ubuntu-modules and linux-backports-modules-hardy
[00:41] <LimCore> ubuntu's network stoped working suddently. probably after upgrade. 8.04.  DHCP modem on eth0, now  dhclient doesnt see it.  How to fix/debug?
[00:41] <facade> http://www.facade.tk
[00:41] <legend2440> xTheGoat121x: yea your right i never noticed that before
[00:41] <facade> http://www.facade.tk
[00:41] <unop> pan023432, but i highly doubt it's an uncompressed tar file -- it probably is a .tar.gz or a .tar.bz2 compressed archive
[00:41] <facade> http://www.facade.tk
[00:41] <FloodBot2> facade: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <facade> http://www.facade.tk
[00:41] <Dewente> jamus ?
[00:41] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, untick roaming mode, change the tab to static ip
[00:41] <unop> pan023432, -C extracts the files to the specified folder
[00:41] <Dewente> Dewente
[00:41] <pan023432> oh i c
[00:41] <sn9_> untraceable-: 5006, yes, 5007, no, but some 5007's appear as 5006
[00:41] <pan023432> that helps
[00:41] <kkathman> unop , WallO  thanks - am charging it right now...will try again later... your help is much appreciated!
[00:41] <pan023432> a lot
[00:41] <pan023432> i've been taring to desktop
[00:41] <pan023432> then moving file
[00:41] <FloodBot2> pan023432: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:42] <vaportrailnew123> how do i start a program with a differnt program as a root
[00:42] <jamus> Dewente:  ime her
[00:42] <unop> kkathman, yw, i hope you resolve your issue - fingers crossed
[00:42] <unop> vaportrailnew123, sudo command
[00:42] <maconga> sn9_:would those be on the Xubuntu 8.04.1 install disk ?
[00:42] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, give ip address as 192.168.1.150, subnet mask 255.255.255.0 & gateway as 192.168.1.1
[00:42] <peridot> Hi, I'm trying to debug an X crash, but gdb seems to hang when I try to attach to the (hung) Xorg process; any suggestions?
[00:42] <pan023432> thx unop
[00:42] <untraceable-> Sn9_: im having troubles getting that card recognized
[00:42] <Dewente>  i got the resource that can be helpful
[00:42] <Chaotic_Descent> Shujah: alright. bbiab.
[00:42] <pan023432> learned something
[00:42] <sn9_> maconga: you will likely need to connect with wires for that
[00:42] <smay> Hi, using apt-get won't download the wireless driver I need, here's the error... am I getting something wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/26331/
[00:43] <maconga> sn9_ alright. Thank You.
[00:43] <unop> pan023432, you will need to get used to the terminal if you are planning on moving to fluxbox (or already have)
[00:43] <unop> :)
[00:43] <vaportrailnew123> so, for instnace if i want to start nvidia-settings with nvidia-xconfig as root what would it look like in terminal
[00:43] <chriswr> can anyone tell me what kind of desktop screenlet this guy has on the bottome right side of his desktop?   http://youtube.com/watch?v=JW2z7JkYPEk
[00:43] <pan023432> well i want to get used to the terminal
[00:43] <sn9_> untraceable-: then it is probably a 5007
[00:43] <Dewente> pici ?
[00:43] <untraceable-> windows shows it as a 5006
[00:43] <xTheGoat121x> legend2440, I just read something online... if you change the application font, you can go smaller... but now, my icons up there don't resize far enough... or they resize too far.
[00:43] <sn9_> untraceable-: as i said, some 5007's appear as 5006
[00:43] <unop> pan023432, as long as you have the patience, that comes automatically
[00:44] <Pici> Dewente: Can I help you?
[00:44] <epaepa> smay, there is no package called like that in repositories
[00:44] <pan023432> ^^
[00:44] <legend2440> xTheGoat121x: yes i was just reading the same thing
[00:44] <CoolFox> hey, anybody know how to switch to KDE from GNOME?
[00:44] <pan023432> seems like the --help command helps a lot
[00:44] <epaepa> smay, try using synaptic
[00:44] <CoolFox> i just installed the packages
[00:44] <vaportrailnew123> ﻿so, for instnace if i want to start nvidia-settings with nvidia-xconfig as root what would it look like in terminal
[00:44] <unop> !info b43-fwcutter | smay
[00:44] <Dewente> how can i send red message ?
[00:44] <sn9_> maconga: your wifi chipset is rt2500, btw
[00:44] <chriswr> can anyone tell me what kind of desktop screenlet this guy has on the bottome right side of his desktop?   http://youtube.com/watch?v=JW2z7JkYPEk
[00:44] <Penopticon> CoolFox: Log out and choose session.
[00:45] <epaepa> CoolFox, logout and start new session with kde from GDM
[00:45] <Pici> Dewente: You can't.  Thats just a feature of your irc client when someone uses your name.
[00:45] <maconga> sn9_:alright Thank You
[00:45] <smay> epaepa: I just did that on another computer though, same package and everything.  unop: That doesn't help me...
[00:45] <untraceable-> Sn9_: so its a no go in ubuntu, nothing i can do?
[00:45] <unop> pan023432, also the man pages -- they are generally more helpful/informative than --help messages
[00:45] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: thanks. that worked.
[00:45] <pan023432> ah
[00:45] <Dewente> PIci: ok
[00:45] <unop> smay, looks like you haven't enabled all the ubuntu repositories
[00:45] <epaepa> smay, check repositories setup in the other computer and copy them to the other one
[00:45] <Shujah> np :)
[00:45] <sn9_> untraceable-: there is something you can do, but it's very involved, and nobody here is going to type that much. google it
[00:45] <Chaotic_Descent_> How come roaming didn't work with my router?
[00:46] <smay> unop: The third-party ones in the software sources aren't checked off, is that it?
[00:46] <unop> smay, no, it's not the third party repos -- it's the ubuntu main one
[00:46] <epaepa> smay, u have some repositories problem, solve it
[00:46] <Dewente> give an example buddy
[00:46] <unop> smay, if you see all of them checked, use the pastebin and show us the contents of this file.   /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:47] <DIL> i just had a jonny come lately episode as i am a relative newb - i could not connect to my windows share using samba - in trying to find a cure one of the steps i took was to add my network name to the domain box under System -Network then click the general tab - hpoe it helps
[00:47] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, make sure you port forward (if you need to) on your static ip address and that the static ip address is beyond the DHCP allocation
[00:47] <skrag> unop so im in synaptic and i cant seem to fund whate exactaly to delete to get run of the old kernels and/or grub entrys
[00:47] <smay> unop: Enabling the third-party repositories fixed the problem.  Thanks for making me check anyways!
[00:47] <untraceable-> thx sn9_
[00:47] <skrag> rid*
[00:47] <Chaotic_Descent_> port forward?
[00:47] <Dewente> pici
[00:48] <Pici> Dewente: yes?
[00:48] <unop> smay, eh? shouldn't be the right fix .. well  anyway :)
[00:48] <smay> unop: Life
[00:48] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, and change the DNS to one provided by ISP.
[00:48] <smay> unop: Oops.. Meant to say Life
[00:48] <smay> OMG!
[00:48] <smay> unop: Please ignore me, life is silly
[00:48] <unop> smay, i'm missing something :)
[00:48] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: it keeps inserting the DNS it wants me to have. where do I set this port forwarding?
[00:48] <Sergeant_Pony> is there any way to have my laptop hd not spin down due to idle time?
[00:48] <reviver> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu/linux and had a pretty noob question.  I'm using 8.04 on a headless box and using rdesktop with autologin.  Since there's no monitor attached when the box powers up, X automatically puts the resolution to 640x480 on CRT-0.  Is there a way to make it always use 1280x1024?
[00:48] <CoolFox> Penopticon, epaepa, how?
[00:49] <offset> Does anyone know how to blacklist a module when trying to boot from the livecd?  Ubuntu keep sstalling with "[ #####.##] ohci1394: fw-host0: physical posted write error".
[00:49] <acid2_> is there anyway I can install postgresql 8.2 through apt? apt-get install postgresql gives 8.3.3
[00:49] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, yes most p2p softwares *torrent and *wire need port forwarding to work properly
[00:49] <epaepa> CoolFox, how do u do what?
[00:49] <sn9_> reviver: yes, by editing xorg.conf
[00:49] <unop> acid2_, sudo aptitude install postgresql=8.2
[00:49] <nwc> freespire??
[00:49] <CoolFox> get into kde from gnome
[00:49] <epaepa> CoolFox, go to system
[00:49] <epaepa> exit
[00:49] <epaepa> close session
[00:49] <unop> acid2_, but postgresql 8.2 must be in the repos tho for this to work
[00:49] <Shujah> go to the same config window select the dns tab delete the last one and manually add 2 dns addresses your isp has provided
[00:49] <LimCore> network stoped working suddenly.  wtf?
[00:50] <geometrical> hmm whats a good tool to convert flac to mp3  ?
[00:50] <nwc> i'm haveing nvidia problems with freespire
[00:50] <acid2_> unop: thanks, I'll try that - should I remove 8.3.3 first?
[00:50] <sn9_> geometrical: lame
[00:50] <epaepa> and in the gdm where u write ur user name and pass there is an opion called session, click there and select kde
[00:50] <unop> geometrical, ffmpeg
[00:50] <acid2_> geometrical: flac and then lame
[00:50] <Penopticon> CoolFox:  Pushing Control and Escape at the same time should bring up the task manager.
[00:50] <slavik> how do I get sound input to be echoed to the speakers? (there is no hardware mixing on my sound card which is a cmi8788)
[00:50] <CoolFox> AH!
[00:50] <CoolFox> there we go.
[00:50] <unop> acid2_, you shouldn't need to -- aptitude will do that for you anyway
[00:50] <xTheGoat121x> legend2440, I figured it out
[00:50] <acid2_> unop: cool cool, I'll try it - thanks
[00:50] <unop> acid2_, err, aptitude _should_ do that ..
[00:50] <LimCore> does ubuntu support network?
[00:51] <Pici> LimCore: What kind of question is that?
[00:51] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: there are only two listings, both created by connecting to my DSL modem, I think... they don't provide me with one in the documentation.
[00:51] <acid2_> unop: and is there anyway to get a version listing of what versions are in the repo?
[00:51] <unop> LimCore, yes -- as you can see, we are all on irc being on ubuntu :)
[00:51] <galshawna> Can anyone help me with my Java plugin problem in FF3?
[00:51] <sn9_> LimCore: do bees buzz?
[00:51] <xTheGoat121x> legend2440, there's a bug in gnome-panel that's not allowing the main menu icon to resize with everything else, thus locking the icon at a specific size.
[00:51] <LimCore> Pici: more general then my precise support question
[00:51] <Nubbie> hi everybody, i'm having trouble getting my webcam to work. i have a creative live! cam notebook pro. I installed and loaded the kernel modules needed, yet it isn't working.
[00:51] <CoolFox> lol @ unop
[00:51] <Pici> LimCore: You should know better.
[00:51] <LimCore> sn9_: they do
[00:51] <LimCore> ok then, so
[00:51] <LimCore> network stoped working suddenly
[00:51] <LimCore> how to fix it
[00:51] <unop> acid2_, sudo aptitude update && dpkg -l | grep postgresql
[00:51] <maconga> galshawna: what kind of problem?
[00:51] <acid2_> cheers mate
[00:52] <LimCore> it seems like software problem ; also network manager something application crashes
[00:52] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, DNS can be in thsi format 192.??.???.?? or 127.0.0.1 if the DNS is different then these values then its ok
[00:52] <Shujah> *DNS cannot be
[00:52] <LimCore> arp -a  shows the router,  but dhclient doesnt obtain IP fromit
[00:52] <LimCore> Pici: ^
[00:52] <Pici> LimCore: How are you connecting to the network?
[00:52] <galshawna> maconga, ever since I upgraded to 8.04, and Firefox 3.0, certan java-run applications don't work, like pool at games.yahoo.com.
[00:52] <LimCore> Pici:  pc -eth- modem
[00:52] <Pici> LimCore: wired?
[00:52] <galshawna> maconga, a lot of games cannot work. And not just that but anything that uses java.
[00:52] <LimCore> Pici: yes
[00:52] <sn9_> galshawna: that's because it now uses openjdk instead of ssun java
[00:52] <sn9_> *sun
[00:52] <galshawna> maconga, every time it says to install missing plugins, but it can never find suitable plugins.
[00:53] <galshawna> sn9_, openjdk?
[00:53] <maconga> galshawana: sudo apt-get install java-6-plugin     (I think that will work)
[00:53] <galshawna> maconga, I think I've already done that.
[00:53] <Penopticon> Firefox 3.0 Try downloading FooBillard from the repository.
[00:53] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: they are. they're like 207. addresses. also found port forwarding settings in my router setup. I guess I don't need that though, huh?
[00:53] <KlrSpz> hey guys, i have my HTPC hooked up to my receiver (AVR), but when i turn it on w/o my AVR being on, the video card doesn't enable... I've been able to kill X and it detects it as it reactivates nvidia's driver, but I have to then log in (I have auto-login enabled)... how would i possibly get it to do this without requiring a new login.. i don't mind killing GDM/X, but don't want to have to log in ever
[00:53] <unop> acid2_, err, actually --  apt-cache search postgresql   not  dpkg -l | grep postgresql
[00:53] <Pici> LimCore: Have you tried resetting your router yet?
[00:53] <LimCore> Pici: yes
[00:53] <unop> acid2_, or better.   aptitude search postgresql
[00:53] <jon_high9000> hi there. is there a way to find the driver to the current hard drive that has ubuntu on it. the reason is i am trying to install debian 4.0 etch.
[00:53] <sn9_> galshawna: yes, but you can install sun-java6-plugin
[00:53] <CoolFox> is there a way to switch from KDE4 to 3.5 and back again without purging any software
[00:54] <galshawna> maconga, java-6-plugin isn't even a recognized package.
[00:54] <unop> CoolFox, i should think not
[00:54] <galshawna> sn9_, I have that installed already
[00:54] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, then the DNS is alright, you only need port forwarding if you plan to use p2p softwares otherwise you dont need it
[00:54] <CoolFox> unop, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[00:54]  * CoolFox cries
[00:54] <maconga> galshawana: I don't really know the java ones....
[00:54] <sn9_> galshawna: sudo update-java-alternatives java6sun
[00:54] <galshawna> sn9_, I'll try that.
[00:54] <unop> CoolFox, you probably should purge anyway .. otherwise you are bound to run into all sorts of problems
[00:54] <Kelvin_0> does anyone know if there is a way to use a cable modem as a ouput to watch movies on a TV?
[00:54] <Tacotuesday> hello room
[00:54] <unop> !downgrade
[00:54] <CoolFox> but i want both :(
[00:54] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I do plan to use P2P.
[00:55] <jon_high9000> btw, i am running a compaq system that has amd64 bit
[00:55] <Pici> LimCore: Have you made any changes to the system lately? Updated the kernel? etc? Did it stop all of a sudden or after a reboot?
[00:55] <CoolFox> i don't really like KDE4, but its so fast on my system
[00:55] <LimCore> Pic
[00:55] <Pici> Kelvin_0: No, you can't do that
[00:55] <unop> CoolFox, well, i've never used KDE -- what happens when you try and install the KDE3 then?
[00:55] <epaepa> CoolFox, gnome is faster
[00:55] <LimCore> Pici:  I think system upgrade
[00:55] <CoolFox> kde3.5 is so nice and shiney.
[00:55] <Kelvin_0> why not?
[00:55] <CoolFox> yes, it is.
[00:55]  * LimCore slaps Pichu0102 and pickett_
[00:55] <Pici> LimCore: You think?
[00:55] <CoolFox> gnome is faster.
[00:55] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, Then in your browser window give the address 192.168.1.1 enter the password of your router and go to NAT
[00:55] <LimCore> Pici: not my box
[00:55] <sn9_> galshawna: i mean java-6-sun
[00:55] <galshawna> sn9_, do you mean sudo update-java-alternatives --java6sun ?
[00:55] <galshawna> Oh
[00:55] <CoolFox> but, can't one tinker? :)
[00:56] <Tacotuesday> hey anyone help with with my upgraded system i am a totalt newb to ubuntu and linux, when i load my comp the desktop rezolution is all mess up
[00:56] <unop> CoolFox, well, what happens if you try? have you tried already? :)
[00:56] <CoolFox> boom
[00:56] <LimCore> Pici: can some config messup,  or missing application  make it so that   dhclient fails to get IP from the modem (as it did previously) ?
[00:56] <CoolFox> thats what. boom.
[00:56] <galshawna> sn9_, root@GalacAttack:~# update-java-alternatives java-6-sun
[00:56] <galshawna> usage: update-java-alternatives [--jre-headless] [--jre] [--plugin] [ -t|--test|-v|--verbose]
[00:56] <galshawna>            -l|--list [<jname>]
[00:56] <galshawna>            -s|--set <jname>
[00:56] <galshawna>            -a|--auto
[00:56] <galshawna>            -h|-?|--help
[00:56] <FloodBot2> galshawna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <Shujah> Tacotuesday, go to menu > system > preferences > screen resolution and change it
[00:56] <sn9_> galshawna: -s java-6-sun
[00:56] <Tacotuesday> can't see my desktop at all
[00:57] <Pici> LimCore: let me think for a moment
[00:57] <Tacotuesday> or my logon screen just wave and vauge shapes
[00:57] <Shujah> Tacotuesday, :S thats troublesome don't you switch to terminal mode after a while
[00:57] <unop> LimCore, does a static setup work fine?
[00:57] <galshawna> sn9_, it did provide a lot of alternatives, but the first line read: No alternatives for firefox-3.0-javaplugin.so.
[00:57] <LimCore> unop: I dont think this modem would allow it
[00:57] <Pici> unop: good thinking
[00:57] <Tacotuesday> i have gone to terminal but that is where i get lost/ scared
[00:57] <LimCore> unop: ISP's modem
[00:57] <unop> LimCore, errm, it ought to
[00:58] <Kelvin_0> There must be a way to use ethernet to output video to a TV if a video card is not available
[00:58] <LimCore> so what, set by hand eth1 to 192.168.1.1  and.....?
[00:58] <xTheGoat121x> Hoorah, I got it.
[00:58] <epaepa> hey, how knows how to make chocolate cookies with ubuntu?
[00:58] <unop> LimCore, DHCP or not, what matters to the modem is that you have an IP address in the right network
[00:58] <unop> LimCore, yes
[00:58] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I can't find NAT. what else is it called?
[00:58] <LimCore> whats the command?  ifconfig eth1 static ...... up  .... ?
[00:58] <Shujah> Tacotuesday, go to terminal and type startx           > see if any error ,essages are given
[00:58] <galshawna> sn9_, earlier you mentioned openjdk. What is the exact package name for it?
[00:58] <unop> LimCore, i'm not sure at the top of my head -- i always use the manpage
[00:58] <Tacotuesday> k hold
[00:59] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I had found a section called "Port Range Forward"
[00:59] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, it should be in advance setting > nat
[00:59] <sn9_> galshawna: something. "dpkg -l '*openjdk*'" to find it
[00:59] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, google your router name and model no a manual must be online somewhere these details will be given there
[00:59] <ishmandoo> Hey, I am having a little trouble with ubuntu. Can someone here help me? Am I in the right place
[00:59] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I have an advanced routing section.
[00:59] <Ursinha> ishmandoo, what's happening?
[00:59] <sn9_> galshawna: actually, "dpkg -l '*openjdk*'|cat"
[01:00] <Tacotuesday> okay should i go into revoery mode, or how do i get to terminal?
[01:00] <unop> sn9_, redundant use of cat :)
[01:00] <sn9_> unop: no, it's necessary
[01:00] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent, Yup now make a new entry for port no 52100  (or any number thats just example)
[01:00] <unop> sn9_, for what reason?
[01:00] <sn9_> unop: because with a pipe, stdout is not a tty
[01:00] <ishmandoo> I have two cd drives that dont seem to work. I see them in "computer" but when I try to look at the files on one it says that it cant mount the drive
[01:01] <Shujah> Tacotuesday, like you went before though if GUI wont start you will automatically shift to terminal
[01:01] <Nubbie> hi everybody, i'm having trouble getting my webcam to work. i have a creative live! cam notebook pro. I installed and loaded the kernel modules needed, yet it isn't working.
[01:01] <galshawna> sn9_, it appears I already have openjdk installed.
[01:01] <sn9_> galshawna: that's what i said
[01:01] <Tacotuesday> in teminal
[01:01] <unop> sn9_, errm,  and is he not on an interactive shell?
[01:01] <sn9_> galshawna: it's now using that instead of the sun java
[01:01] <reviver> sn9_, OK so this is my xorg.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26333/ and according to http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/xorg.conf.5.html the resolution is handled in a display subsection which isn't already added in my xorg.conf... do I need to add that subsection, if so, in a certain place or am I missing something?
[01:01] <sn9_> unop: he is, so cat is needed to fake it out
[01:02] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, you'll see something like external port start, external port end, internal port start!
[01:02] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: in which field? I have nothing that's only a port number. they're all 0.0.0.0 fields. except for "route name" and "interface"
[01:02] <Shujah> Tacotuesday, type startx
[01:02] <KlrSpz> hey guys, i have my HTPC hooked up to my receiver (AVR), but when i turn it on w/o my AVR being on, the video card doesn't enable... I've been able to kill X and it detects it as it reactivates nvidia's driver, but I have to then log in (I have auto-login enabled)... how would i possibly get it to do this without requiring a new login.. i don't mind killing GDM/X, but don't want to have to log in ever
[01:02] <sn9_> reviver: yes, you need to add it
[01:02] <unop> sn9_, that really is silly then -- but anyway, it does the same thing
[01:02] <ishmandoo> anyone have any ideas about my cd problem?
[01:02] <sn9_> reviver: you also need to turn off edid, ddc, and randr
[01:02] <Dewente3> Can i use a server with wireless ?
[01:02] <sn9_> unop: no, it doesn't -- try it
[01:03] <unop> sn9_, i use that command all the time
[01:03] <sn9_> unop: try it both ways and see the diff
[01:03] <reviver> sn9_, sorry, what are those and how do I turn them off?
[01:03] <unop> sn9_, and i don't usually need to put the globs in single-quotes either
[01:03] <Tacotuesday> fatal servererror serv already cative for display 0
[01:03] <sn9_> reviver: they are xorg.conf options
[01:03] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, dude NAT will be near Adavanced setting > WAN, LAN,
[01:03] <ishmandoo> no?
[01:04] <sn9_> unop: if you are in a dir where the globs match, you do
[01:04] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I think you're wanting me to go into the "Port Range Forward" section... that has things like application, start, end, protocol, IP address.
[01:04] <scifiguy951> what is a good program if i want to rename ALOT of files?
[01:04] <Dewente3> can i use wireless with my server ?
[01:04] <galshawna> sn9_, no, I meant that I already have it installed. I remember that you told me it is using it. But whatever it uses now isn't working because I can't use java-based applications online.
[01:04] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, yes
[01:04] <Chaotic_Descent_> that was the first one I told you about, but you told me to look for NAT instead.
[01:04] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, can you add a new rule in that
[01:04] <rvtcadmin> Hi, I'm a noob.  i am using a colleague's computer that is running xfce (xubuntu).  I want to switch back to gnome, however, when log out and try to change the session to gnome it says gnome is not installed.  how do i check for sure?  where would i look in the file system?
[01:04] <unop> sn9_, which is why i said -- i _usually_ don't .. and i see no difference when piping to cat
[01:04] <chriswr> can anyone help me with installing a new cursor that i got from gnome-look.org?
[01:05] <sn9_> galshawna: of course it's installed; how could it be using it if it weren't installed?
[01:05] <Nubbie> rvtcadmin: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <Wannabe> rvtcadmin, do you got gnome installeD?
[01:05] <unop> scifiguy951, rename
[01:05] <Dewente3> hello
[01:05] <Wannabe> rvtcadmin, do want nubbie said
[01:05] <Shujah> chriswr, drag the zip file to appearance window it'll will auto install
[01:05] <fiXXXerMe1> I want to format my drive and reinstall linux but I don't want to lose all of my data (like programs, settings, etc).  Should I just back up my /home/user folder?
[01:05] <Dewente3> can i use wireless with a server
[01:05] <sn9_> unop: shrink your terminal window to normal size and try again
[01:05] <Dewente3> ?
[01:05] <galshawna> sn9_, okay. I thought what you meant was that I needed to install it. Sorry for my misinterpretation.
[01:05] <chriswr> shujah: ok , thnx again
[01:05] <Penopticon> CoolFox: Then log out and use the session manager to log into KDE 3.5.
[01:05] <rvtcadmin> wannabe, i don't want to install it if it's already installed, though
[01:05] <rvtcadmin> how do i tell for sure it's not around somewhere?
[01:05] <Shujah> chriswr,  np
[01:05] <unop> sn9_, and what should i expect to see ? the same as before ?
[01:06] <Dewente3> thank for answered me ..
[01:06] <sn9_> unop: nope
[01:06] <simNIX> fiXXXerMe1: I would also do at least /etc and /usr/local/etc
[01:06] <Wannabe> rvtcadmin, it won't re-install it will only fix.
[01:06] <unop> sn9_, well, i do see the same thing
[01:06] <fiXXXerMe1> simNIX: Thanks
[01:06] <sn9_> unop: then you must have a very large screen and/or a very small font
[01:06] <KlrSpz> anyhone?
[01:06] <simNIX> handy to not have to find out agni how certain thing were configured
[01:06] <rvtcadmin> wannabe and Nubbie, great!  thanks muchly, will try : )
[01:06] <Dewente3> Dewente3: ok
[01:07] <Wannabe> rvtcadmin, =]
[01:07] <IdentifyTarget> how do I change my grub wait time?
[01:07] <unop> sn9_, not really -- 1024x1024, Kochi Gothic @ 9x15
[01:07] <Dewente3> how can i active root ?
[01:07] <unop> !root | Dewente3,
[01:07] <tj83> Identify edit /etc/boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:07] <tj83> IdentifyTarget,  edit /etc/boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:07] <unop> Dewente3, use sudo instead
[01:08] <Shujah> IdentifyTarget, for simple gui install startup manager for a bit harder way gedit/nano grub file
[01:08] <Dewente3> yes.. to use sudo and which password ?
[01:08] <DeadKennedy2880> server restart?
[01:08] <unop> Dewente3, your password
[01:08] <IdentifyTarget> christ I'm IRC
[01:08] <tj83> wonder who the lucky ones are going down?
[01:08] <IdentifyTarget> I can use command line
[01:08] <Pici> !netsplit
[01:09] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:09] <Dewente3> mmmmmm is that secure form
[01:09] <Pici> !traffic
[01:09] <unop> Dewente3, yes -- that is how sudo is setup on ubuntu
[01:09] <Shujah> what the heck happened !!!
[01:09] <Pici> !netsplit
[01:09] <unop> Shujah, a netsplit
[01:09] <KlrSpz> hey guys, i have my HTPC hooked up to my receiver (AVR), but when i turn it on w/o my AVR being on, the video card doesn't enable... I've been able to kill X and it detects it as it reactivates nvidia's driver, but I have to then log in (I have auto-login enabled)... how would i possibly get it to do this without requiring a new login.. i don't mind killing GDM/X, but don't want to have to log in ever
[01:09] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: so what do I do with this port forwarding stuff?
[01:09] <Guest47766> When I put a KFormula into KWord it shows up very small. When i try to resize the frame, The Frame size increases, but the Formula stays the same size. How do I resize this formula?
[01:09] <DeadKennedy2880> nice, ive never gotten a warning for a server restart before.
[01:09] <Dewente3> only for that first user that i created when i installed the first time
[01:10] <Stormx2> Whack.
[01:10] <MrObvious> Wow that was fun.
[01:10] <unop> Dewente3, no, it should work for any subsequent users you setup too in the same way - as long as they are in the admin group
[01:10] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, select on ip lets assume it is 51000 and add it into start external, end external, start internal, end internal and select server as your static ip
[01:11] <Dewente3> so u meant that the first user is in that group ?
[01:11] <CoolFox> that was INSANE
[01:11] <unop> Dewente3, by default, and out of the box, yes
[01:11] <Frans-Willem> Hmmmz
[01:11] <tj83> IdentifyTarget,  sudo gedit boot/grub/menu.lst  sorry and change " timeout		10"
[01:12] <Dewente3> understood .. but what happen is I want to change that's first user password ?
[01:12] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: I don't have internal and external. just start and end, protocol (TCP, UDP, or both) and IP address (192.168.1.*. can only change the last number)
[01:12] <Frans-Willem> For some reason MythBuntu insists that the drive in SATA0 is sdb, SATA1 is sdc, and SATA2 is sda, even though grub does refer to them as hd0,hd1,hd2 :S
[01:12] <theseus> i just changed /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname but it doesn't reflect
[01:12] <unop> tj83, use gksudo instead of sudo with X applications
[01:12] <Dewente3> can i make a password change ?
[01:12] <theseus> when i type hostname, i still get 'none'
[01:12] <unop> Dewente3, change your password?  sudo passwd
[01:12] <Dewente3> normally... ok
[01:13] <unop> !hostname | theseus
[01:13] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, ok only change start and end put in an ip say 51000 in both start and end and select the ip address same as your static ip which I think was 192.168.1.150
[01:13] <Pici> !noroot | ubottu Dewente3
[01:13] <rockyrock> hi guys, i have question. Will the External USB Dialup modems work on Ubuntu???
[01:13] <s3a> im running virtualbox-ose on a 64 bit system can i run 32 bit xp with it or do i need to be in 32 bit ubuntu to do that?
[01:13] <Pici> unop: that was to you actually.
[01:13] <IdentifyTarget> nasty split, I'm back
[01:13] <Shujah> theseus, restart network for changes to take place
[01:13] <IdentifyTarget> what was the file I need to edit?
[01:13] <unop> Pici, i never recommended unlocking or enabling root :)
[01:13] <ftehw> can anyone throw me a pointer on how to add new keyboard shortcuts?
[01:13] <tj83> IdentifyTarget,  gksudo gedit boot/grub/menu.lst  sorry and change " timeout		10"
[01:13] <IdentifyTarget> ty
[01:13] <Tacotuesday> okay so still lost here
[01:13] <unop> Pici, you must have me confused for someone else
[01:14] <s3a> ftehw: system-->preferences-->keyboard shortcuts
[01:14] <Pici> unop: You just suggested using sudo passwd
[01:14] <rvtcadmin> nubbie, i'm afraid i thought i copied and pasted the command.. but, i didn't.  sudo apt -get ubuntu desktop?
[01:14] <sn9_> ftehw: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[01:14] <theseus> Shujah: how do i do that? /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start
[01:14] <unop> Pici, err, my bad ..  Dewente3 .. sudo passwd $USER
[01:14] <raavi> Why the modules to load in xorg.conf are not written in ubuntu-8.04 xorg.conf
[01:14] <galshawna> Does anyone know about getting Java to work with Firefox 3.0 in Ubuntu 8.04?
[01:14] <Shujah> theseus, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:14] <rockyrock> Will the External USB Dialup modems work on Ubuntu???
[01:14] <KlrSpz> galshawna: install ubufos
[01:14] <Dewente3> unop perfect
[01:14] <KlrSpz> galshawna: install ubufox
[01:14] <Dewente3> is done...
[01:15] <ftehw> s3a: sn9_ that provides a means to edit pre-defined actions.  what about making new actions?
[01:15] <KlrSpz> ﻿hey guys, i have my HTPC hooked up to my receiver (AVR), but when i turn it on w/o my AVR being on, the video card doesn't enable... I've been able to kill X and it detects it as it reactivates nvidia's driver, but I have to then log in (I have auto-login enabled)... how would i possibly get it to do this without requiring a new login.. i don't mind killing GDM/X, but don't want to have to log in ever
[01:15] <galshawna> KlrSpz, alright. I'll give that a try.
[01:15] <sn9_> ftehw: like what?
[01:15] <unop> Dewente3, i hope you didn't do sudo passwd   and did sudo passwd $USER instead
[01:15] <Sergeant_Pony> dang that was harsh
[01:15] <galshawna> KlrSpz, I already have ubufox installed.
[01:15] <Dewente3> appreciated
[01:15] <theseus> i am still root@none and hostname still returns 'none'
[01:15] <Dewente3> i did as
[01:15] <s3a> rockyrock: if its a hard modem
[01:16] <ftehw> sn9_: ?  like an arbitrary action.  (alt-t -> `exec foo`)
[01:16] <KlrSpz> galshawna: ok so then go to java.com and install, it should try to get it from aptitude
[01:16] <s3a> ftehw: im not sure sry :(
[01:16] <s3a> ftehw: ill google quickly for u
[01:16] <Dewente3> sudo passwd user
[01:16] <rockyrock> s3a, what do u mean by a hard modem??
[01:16] <unop> Dewente3, cool
[01:16] <galshawna> KlrSpz, alright. I'll be back if it fails to work.
[01:16] <Shujah> rockyrock, hard modem = not a winmodem :D
[01:16] <Cyndre__> anyone know of a site you can upload xrays to so others can look and give you there opinion?
[01:16] <rvtcadmin> ugg, i feel silly.  i just asked this question but didn't copy the command properly.  friend's laptop is running xubuntu, can't log into gnome (says it
[01:16] <theseus> Shujah: i think i need to reboot to have the hostname changed . . .
[01:16] <rockyrock> Shujah, how can i know that it's not a winmodem??
[01:17] <s3a> rockyrock: one that doesnt need drivers to work, im not exactly a pro on them but us robotics external modems should work and if its usb i think thats a bad sign but ur best best would be a program called ndiswrapper (which i havent used) but u should ask about that
[01:17] <rvtcadmin> s not installed), need to get it?
[01:17] <Dewente3> hey many thank unop... i appreciated .. i recently installed ubuntu server
[01:17] <rvtcadmin> but how
[01:17] <Dewente3> virtually
[01:17] <Shujah> thesues: can't say for sure
[01:17] <Dewente3> one more question
[01:17] <ftehw> s3a: another exmaple is "move window to workspace 3".  'keyboard-shortcuts' only defines shortcuts for workspace 1 and 2.
[01:17] <Dewente3> how about wireless and ubuntu server ?
[01:17] <unop> Dewente3, how about them?
[01:17] <akuma55> is there a way to down load to a location of chose on ubuntu server?
[01:17] <Shujah> rockyrock, google "your modem model no + linux" you'll get a fair idea
[01:18] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[01:18] <rockyrock> s3a, my friend boguht us robotics USB modem and it costs him 70$ and it didn't work on ubuntu!
[01:18] <Dewente3> can i setup wireless
[01:18] <Larose> Where are lock files located ?
[01:18] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, you can't figure out if gnome is installed or you think you uninstalled it?
[01:18] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <unop> Dewente3, sure -- but servers aren't really meant to be accessed wirelessly
[01:19] <unop> Dewente3, tho, there is no stopping you from doing that
[01:19] <s3a> rockyrock: lol i bought one too and it didn't work (back when i had dialup) but heres a good way to help u, if u get a hsf winmodem i can give u a driver which will make it work
[01:19] <rockyrock> Shujah, i don't have one, that why i'm asking! I have a PCI modem that doesn't work on Ubuntu so i need such a modem that work on it but i didn't find anything in the internet. I have only Dialup internet available now!
[01:19] <Dewente3> unop great ..
[01:19] <s3a> rockyrock: on 32 bit or 64 bit
[01:20] <onthefence921> what do i type to append a command to another command?
[01:20] <rockyrock> s3a, what do u mean by hsf?
[01:20] <rvtcadmin> Shujah and bloodrock, well, I can't figure out if it's installed.  but i was advised earlier to just use the command bloodrock suggested and told that would fix it
[01:20] <rockyrock> s3a, is it a brand\?
[01:20] <galshawna> KlrSpz, I saved the .bin file to my /home folder. I forget how to install .bin files? Is there a way I'm supposed to do it using ubufox? Or are the two installations just supposed to work together when both installed?
[01:20] <Shujah> rockyrock, google for "wvdial + your pci modem" most pci modem work via wvdial though its a headache to properly configure it
[01:20] <s3a> rockyrock: do u have a pci winmodem?
[01:20] <plik> onthefence921:  &&  will run the second command if the first exits successfully
[01:21] <s3a> rockyrock: no its not a brand
[01:21] <onthefence921> i have "banshee --play-enqueued --enqueue %U" and i want to add a command to that line (to mount a partition)
[01:21] <rockyrock> s3a, yes i do
[01:21] <s3a> rockyrock: ok do u have msn messenger?
[01:21] <Dewente3> can u recommend me a good book of administration ?
[01:21] <rockyrock> s3a, yes
[01:21] <s3a> rockyrock: or do u want me to give u a link here?
[01:21] <KlrSpz> galshawna: to install a bin file, just make it executable (chmod +x ./filename) then run it (sh filename.bin)
[01:21] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, open file manager go to userhome see if a directory named .gnome2 is present if its there gnome is installed/ or was installed
[01:21] <Steven_Hendry> Hey guys my cdrom displays audio cd's as blank cd's. Any ideas?
[01:21] <Chaotic_Descent_> Shujah: ok, I read up on P2P port forwarding. Thanks.
[01:21] <rockyrock> s3a, look i'll back after 5 mints, plzzzz wait me, oky?
[01:22] <onthefence921> plik: ﻿i have "banshee --play-enqueued --enqueue %U" and i want to add a command to that line (to mount a partition)
[01:22] <s3a> rockyrock: ok but if i dont answer i might be in bathroom or something cuz i drank alot of orange juice
[01:22] <s3a> rockyrock: lol
[01:22] <rockyrock> s3a, acutally i'm going to the bathroom!!!! lool
[01:22] <Shujah> Chaotic_Descent_, np         from terminal >    sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:22] <s3a> rockyrock: lol, k, i wont leave but i dont guarantee my idea will work for u either but we can try
[01:23] <Dewente3> upon: thank you
[01:23] <KlrSpz> ﻿hey guys, i have my HTPC hooked up to my receiver (AVR), but when i turn it on w/o my AVR being on, the video card doesn't enable... I've been able to kill X and it detects it as it reactivates nvidia's driver, but I have to then log in (I have auto-login enabled)... how would i possibly get it to do this without requiring a new login.. i don't mind killing GDM/X, but don't want to have to log in ever
[01:23] <CodddEr> in scite how i can ALWAYS view the line numbers ?
[01:23] <sn9_> anybody know how i can find out the status of an SRU?
[01:23] <plik> onthefence921: id mount first, so mount /dev/lah /mnt &&  banshee --whatever
[01:23] <KlrSpz> i am trying to restart GDM, but it won't start it once it logs me out (aka, kills X)
[01:23] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, I don't see usr/home.  under my username's home directory there is no gnome2.  sorry i don't understand the gnome file system very well yet
[01:24] <plik> I think you can use  banshee --whatever :   (or psossibly ;) mount but you'd have to test to see
[01:24] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, you will have to enable hidden files it's ctrl+h in nautilus
[01:24] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, I already did sudo apt -get install ubuntu-desktop.  will this hurt anything if it was already installed?
[01:24] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, I don't think it'll hurt
[01:24] <ftehw> s3a: i found it.  you can get a full interface to metacity's window management actions via gconf-editor (so that move 'window to workspace X' can be mapped)
[01:25] <galshawna> KlrSpz, I executed the .bin file and installed. According to the terminal, after I typed yes to agree to the terms, everything was installed fine. However, when I opened firefox and attempted to open pool at games.yahoo.com, it still reported the missing java plugin.
[01:25] <ftehw> s3a: thanks for ur help anyhoo.
[01:25] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know how I can stop my laptop's hd from spinning down when it's idle?
[01:25] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, ok, phew :)  they are enabled, but i see no usr/home
[01:25] <spoontastic> galshawna, you downloaded the .bin version of FF?
[01:25] <KlrSpz> galshawna: odd, i'm not sure... it all worked flawless for me?
[01:25] <spoontastic> why not just grab it from the repo?
[01:26] <s3a> ftehw: sry lol and so i no sudo gedit gconf-editor?
[01:26] <galshawna> spoontastic, I'm using the standard ubuntu 8.04 installation of FF3.
[01:26] <KlrSpz> galshawna: you could always try wiping out your firefox config (~/.mozilla) and start over from scratch... backup your bookmarks if you do
[01:26] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, Then I don't think gnome was installed
[01:26] <galshawna> spoontastic, I'm just trying to get it to work with java
[01:26] <s3a> ftehw: o no, i dont no wat to do :(
[01:27] <Shujah> galshawna, from terminal > sudo update-alternatives --config java             <select sun java.
[01:27] <plik> s3a: sudo only works on commandline, so it wont work with gedit
[01:27] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, check at the login screen under options>sessions see if gnome is listed
[01:27] <Shujah> galshawna, from terminal > sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so  <<select sun java
[01:27] <Shujah> galshawna, from terminal > provided you nstalled sun java
[01:27] <EagleScreen> you can run sudo gedit
[01:27] <gregbrady> plik, why can't you sudo gedit file?
[01:27] <galshawna> Shujah, I think I've done that before, but I'll give it a second chance.
[01:28] <spoontastic> galshawna, have you tried the JRE package?
[01:28] <galshawna> spoontastic, yes.
[01:28] <gregbrady> plik, works fine here.
[01:28] <bloodrock> EagleScreen, correct command is gksudo gedit
[01:28] <sn9_> bloodrock: no, it's gksu gedit
[01:28] <EagleScreen> and what is the matter with sudo gedit?
[01:29] <gregbrady> sudo gedit works fine
[01:29] <plik> oh, ok my mistake - gksudo is the proper command for sudoing gui appsgui a
[01:29] <Shujah> EagleScreen, nothing but for GUI mostly gksu is used. a Better habbit :P
[01:29] <sn9_> plik: no, gksu is
[01:29] <plik> thought you might have probs
[01:29] <ftehw> s3a: do: gconf-editor then browse apps>>metacity>>[whatever you want]
[01:29] <galshawna> Is this a common problem with people upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04 and FF3?
[01:29] <plik> ok so my point remains, theres a difference command to sudo for you gui kids
[01:29] <ftehw> edit the command key (right click is easiest) and enter it in manually.
[01:29] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, it was listed, but when i tried to switch to it it said it was not installed
[01:30] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, is installing presently
[01:30] <spoontastic> galshawna, usually flash is the problem with FF, not Java
[01:30] <gregbrady> plik, sudo command works just fine.
[01:30] <rockyrock> s3a, are u here?? I'm back :D
[01:30] <EagleScreen> i have bought a Dgital TV Tunner, in the bag says it is GNU/Linux compatible, with the Tux penguin
[01:30] <plik> gregbrady: I heard you the first time, thanks
[01:30] <sn9_> EagleScreen: is it from hauppauge?
[01:30] <EagleScreen> i cannot compile the provided driver
[01:30] <Shujah> galshawna, I'm afraid so - check out this website > http://www.futuredesktop.com/set_default_java_vm.html
[01:30] <galshawna> spoontastic, yes, and I've had enough experience getting around flash problems that I'm usually all set with that. Except I still can't get youtube to run smoothly in fullscreen (the refresh rate sucks.
[01:30] <s3a> rockyrock: ya im here
[01:30] <s3a> rockyrock: ok so u have 32 bit?
[01:30] <gregbrady> plik, ok, np
[01:31] <rockyrock> s3a, can i pm you?
[01:31] <galshawna> Shujah, thank you.
[01:31] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, k try sudo apt-get install gnome2.22.2 least i think thats correct
[01:31] <s3a> rockyrock: in forums?
[01:31] <sn9_> EagleScreen: never use vendor-provided drivers; they are always crap
[01:31] <Kcaj> Yo
[01:31] <Kcaj> compiz fusion crapped out
[01:31] <spoontastic> galshawna, have you tried the OpenJDK package, openjdk-6-jre?
[01:31] <Kcaj> I can't even barely use Ubuntu any more
[01:31] <Kcaj> It keeps making me log back in if I try to change bindings
[01:31] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, for better or for worse i already tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:31] <Kcaj> and wont rotate my screen or anything any more
[01:32] <EagleScreen> sn9_ then what must I do?
[01:32] <m1r> !enter > kcaj
[01:32] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, a better way would be to go to synaptic and unistall gnome if its there then reinstall it, but it will wipe out the diff configs
[01:32] <sn9_> EagleScreen: who is the mfr? hauppauge? or avermedia?
[01:32] <galshawna> spoontastic, yes.
[01:32] <slavik> how do I get sound input to be echoed to the speakers? (there is no hardware mixing on my sound card which is a cmi8788)
[01:32] <Guiri> Is the package maintainer for apache2 around? Essentially, for some reason the system is overriding the rewrite rules as described http://rewrite.drbacchus.com/rewritewiki/SSL and still allowing http: access to the site, although it is accessible via https:
[01:32] <EagleScreen> TVISTO
[01:32] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, was being used for desktop envi
[01:32] <Kcaj> Well anyway, I'm being serious here. I can't close or minimze windows or anything any more. All  ever did was install and start to use Compiz fusion and emerald from synaptic
[01:32] <sn9_> EagleScreen: and what is the name of their driver?
[01:32] <galshawna> spoontastic, Shujah just gave me a website whose instructions I'm going to follow for now and see if it helps. If that website doesn't end up solving my problem, then I'll be back.
[01:33] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, thanks, i'll remember for next time.
[01:33] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, xfce/xubuntu was being used
[01:33] <Kcaj> It worked fine for a while., but these days, I have to start in safe mode, then go to normal, and even tyrying to use compiz fusion requires me to keep loging back in (throws me out0 and then never even works right.
[01:33] <gregbrady> Kcaj, do your windows have borders?
[01:33] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin,  oh
[01:33] <Kcaj> "Borders"?
[01:33] <Kcaj> No, I mean I can File, Edit, etc. but no close, minimize and maximize and such.
[01:33] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin,  was gnome ever on it
[01:33] <gregbrady> Kcaj, do you see the X for close button?
[01:33] <Cyndre> anyone want to see my hand x-rays?
[01:34] <sn9_> EagleScreen: and what is the name of their driver?
[01:34] <EagleScreen> www.t-visto.com, it uses driver dvb-af901x or dvb-usb-af901x, i mean kernel modules
[01:34] <root0> to whom i have to address about a strange update? there is libdns32 and now after update there is another package _identical_ but with name libdns35. after this update libdns32 apears like an orphaned package. what shal i do? remove the libdns32 package or not? is libdns35 the same package as libdns32, or not?
[01:34] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, apparently, i found gnome files under /share
[01:34] <gregbrady> Kcaj...ok...sec...
[01:34] <Kcaj> gregbrady: You seem to be on to something, I mean I already noticed I had no close option or anything, it s VERY annoying, I can';t even move my windows around./
[01:34] <sn9_> EagleScreen: you may want to use the pkgs prepared by martin pitt last month
[01:34] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, though maybe those could just be old preference files?
[01:34] <gregbrady> Kcaj, I have the same problem on my pclos machine.
[01:35] <Kcaj> This problem, has esentially almost completely disabled my OS and made it impossible to use... starting up is a major chore and requires I always go through safe mode first, and repair packages and x server, etc.
[01:35] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, they do use some gnome stuff on xubuntu
[01:35] <gregbrady> Kcaj, I have to start the Compiz button every time I boot
[01:35] <sn9_> EagleScreen: they will probably work for you
[01:35] <EagleScreen> sn9_ where can i find them?
[01:35] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, ah, i see.
[01:35] <Kcaj> gregbrady: Same her, but now, when I start it, I can't even use it, if I try to, it makes me log out, and back in and just completely screws me.
[01:35] <sn9_> EagleScreen: search
[01:35] <spoontastic> Kcaj, have you tried...uninstalling compiz
[01:36] <spoontastic> ?
[01:36] <EagleScreen> okay, i will search in the garden :D
[01:36] <Kcaj> Any ideas? I have an amazing video card, there is no reason this should be going on, seriously. Really kind of annoying. I want to use Ubuntu bad, but this, and no support for m ywireless card are going to make me forced to switch back to Windows :(
[01:36] <Kcaj> Should I really do that? Uninstall and reinstall>?
[01:36] <bloodrock> rv so right now it stil telling ya gnome not installed
[01:36] <ozzloy> how do i set up my server to send email?  for instance with a bugzilla install?
[01:36] <Shujah> Kcaj,  > your graphic card is not recognized or simply compiz is misbehaving?
[01:36] <sn9_> Kcaj: which wifi?
[01:36] <KEAL> w00t free Hannah Montana 3-D glasses at WALMART!
[01:36] <Kcaj> Compiz is misbehaving bad.
[01:37] <Kcaj> Some Broadcom, Dell Dual Buand 1490 WLAN minicard
[01:37] <Kcaj> I read like 100 tutorials online to make it work, none worked, they all just screwed it up worse I think.
[01:37] <Shujah> Kcaj, have you tweaked compiz-setting through advance desktop effects?
[01:37] <Kcaj> Shujah: I think it is compiz, I had absolutely no problems before compz, and compiz worked great actually until I did a reboot.
[01:37] <sn9_> Kcaj: that is supported -- just install the b43-fwcutter pkg
[01:37] <prada> can someone tell me if Ubuntu has a chat client the supports voip
[01:37] <Kcaj> Oh, yes, yes, yes I have, but now, I cant even do that. Trying to use compiz, makes me log back in.
[01:38] <Kcaj> Okay, I might have to ask you about that again
[01:38] <ticktick> how do I resolve package dependancies
[01:38] <Kcaj> Because I have to close IRC to open anything else, due to my current problem
[01:38] <Kcaj> I'm going to close this nor, and remove compiz, and then reinstall, I'll let you guys know how it went.
[01:38] <plik> prada: ekiga
[01:38] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, i don't know, I can't use synaptic now because apt-get is installing ubuntu desktop
[01:38] <prada> thanks
[01:38] <ticktick> how do I resolve package dependancies with virtualbox??
[01:38] <tj83> Kcaj, i think re-installing and coming back here to resolve"out-of-box" issues is amongst the best ideas.
[01:39] <Shujah> Kcaj: using emerald manager with compiz?
[01:39] <gis> hi
[01:39] <sn9_> ticktick: ose or from virtualbox.org?
[01:39] <bloodrock> rvtcadmin, oh ok then it prob installing gnome
[01:39] <gis>  i lost my souces.list (a my mistake .. i deleted it )
[01:39] <gis>  tring to find a solution, i tried to use a sorces.list from an other ubuntu ..
[01:39] <rvtcadmin> bloodrock, yeah, i'll just wait and see what happens
[01:40] <gis> . but unluky maybe it is wrong for these machine
[01:40] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, :D worse case scenario in installs a newer version on top of an old one.
[01:40] <gis> these the sources.list i'm using,   uname -r give me : 2.6.22-14-server  i don't .. but seems to be a 7.10 version
[01:40] <Shujah> just kiddin :P
[01:40] <gis> http://rafb.net/p/i4TUY923.html
[01:40] <ticktick> SN9 dont understand
[01:40] <ticktick> ose?
[01:40] <sn9_> ticktick: the virtualbox-ose pkg, or the one from the website?
[01:41] <eek> hey all silly question whats the latest distro for ubuntu?
 downloaded VB from the virtualbox website and when installing it says unresolved depenancies
[01:42] <sn9_> eek: latest release is hardy heron 8.04.1, and 8.10 intrepid ibex is in alpha now
[01:42] <Shujah> eek: ubuntu 8.04 stable, 8.10 unstable
[01:42] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, yeah. but, uh.. how do I figure out if it did that ;)  synaptic?
[01:42] <eek> ok thanks
 libssl0.9.8
[01:42] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, it wont :D it'll update the gnome if that was the case
[01:43] <sn9_> ticktick: installing from a download is a 3-step process:
[01:43] <con-man> ok
[01:43] <ticktick> ok
[01:43] <con-man> stupid floodbot
[01:43] <sn9_> 1) install linux-headers-generic
[01:43] <sn9_> 2) install the downloaded pkg
[01:44] <ticktick> ok
[01:44] <sn9_> 3) "sudo apt-get -f install" on a line by itself
[01:44] <prada> plik will i be able to make free phone calls from my computer
[01:44] <Shujah> < listening to 'Its a wonderful life' by black on songbird
[01:44] <galshawna> Shujah, thank you so much for that website. It worked. I realize my problem wasn't lack of installation components, but I just didn't have the right configuration, given sun java was running one thing and another java program was running something else. Thanks a lot.
[01:44] <eek> any buddy got the quick link to the 8.04 distro download?
[01:44] <Shujah> galshawna, I thought so :D glad you worked it out
[01:44] <sn9_> eek: it's easy to find on the ubuntu.com website
[01:45] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, hooray! linux is smart
[01:45] <Shujah> galshawna, you werent configuring the xulrunner same happened to me
[01:45] <ticktick> ok nothing installed, this install of hardy was completed 1 hour ago
[01:45] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, only as smart as the admin I,m afraid :P
[01:46] <ticktick> sn9 install: missing destination file operand after `linux-headers-generic'
[01:46] <sn9_> ticktick: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[01:46] <jin> any one knows how to place the minimize,close, maximize buttons to the right in emerald?
[01:46] <spoontastic> eek: ubuntu.com
[01:47] <sn9_> ticktick: then, sudo dpkg -i somefile.deb
[01:47] <eek> thanks all got it already :D
[01:47] <CirclesCenter> If anyone remotely knowledgable could help, I'm a bit of a nooblet having minor issues (that I can't figure out) Please PM me.
[01:47] <CirclesCenter> Install stuff
[01:47] <Shujah> jin: they already are at right unless you are using a specific theme or changed it yourself.
ok already newest version 0 done 0 etc
[01:47] <simNIX> why not ask your question here ?
[01:47] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: how minor?
[01:47] <spoontastic> !anyone | CirclesCenter
[01:47] <gregbrady> CirclesCenter, with what?
[01:48] <con-man> CirclesCenter: ask your question here so everyone can learn
[01:48] <jin> Shujah, it is theme specific
[01:48] <galshawna> Shujah, just wondering if you also happen to know about problems getting Wine Gecko to install properly.
[01:48] <Killer--Tux> what's u all
[01:48] <CirclesCenter> K didn't want to be a pain, but ubuntu does not see my HDD at all
[01:48] <Shujah> jin: edit the theme and change the location
[01:48] <eek> why do they still offer other downloads of old distros??
[01:48] <CirclesCenter> XP is living happily on it
[01:48] <con-man> CirclesCenter: raid drive?
[01:48] <galshawna> Installing gecko is my last real pain-in-the-*** problem.
[01:48] <jin> Shujah, how do you edit an emerald theme?
[01:48] <Shujah> galshawna, sorry don't know much about that
[01:48] <CirclesCenter> Single drive, sata II wd 250
[01:49] <sn9_> spoontastic: can anybody tell me how i might find out the status of an SRU? ;)
[01:49] <ticktick> eek - why do they print old books?
[01:49] <spoontastic> not sure what an SRU is, sorry
[01:49] <fiyawerx> hey guys, not sure how new this is, but "wtf" about best-buy SELLING ubuntu haha
[01:49] <bloodrock> CirclesCenter, what drive is ubuntu on
[01:49] <spoontastic> fiyawerx, pretty awesome, eh?
[01:49] <CirclesCenter> It isn't on, I'm trying to shoehorn it in.
[01:49] <Shujah> jin: menu > system > preferences > emerald theme manager      <open the theme manager backup the theme and then manually configure the different aspects
ok already newest version 0 done 0 etc
[01:49] <CirclesCenter> It however does not want to go
[01:49] <eek> old books still have good ideas and linux isnt windows  I wont go back to feist from gibbon will I ticktick?
[01:49] <sn9_> spoontastic: Stable Release Update -- it's the question i came in here with several hours ago
[01:49] <fiyawerx> spoontastic: for 20$ when you can order it / dl it for free?
[01:50] <galshawna> Does anyone know how I can get Wine Gecko installed properly? While installing WoW every single time an installer, or even just the launcher, that uses HTML opened, a pop-up saying that Wine needs to install Gecko would come up where I could push install, but it wouldn't do anything.
[01:50] <fiyawerx> hope that was ssarcastic heh
[01:50] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, ... hmm, then i'm in trouble
[01:50] <jin> Shujah, I am there but can't any way to put them to the right
[01:50] <jm2k> i have Hardy with kernel 2.6.22.14-generic, would it be smart to update to new kernel 2.6.25.10-generic or not?

[01:51] <jin> Shujah, found it :-)
[01:51] <spoontastic> fiyawerx, how does a person know to download it for free if they don't know much about alternative operating systems? It's free advertising in one of the biggest chain retailers in the country, which is a triumph for open source
[01:51] <sn9_> jm2k: use 2.6.24-19-generic
[01:51] <sn9_> ticktick: you did all 3 steps?
[01:51] <z662> does anyone know how i can restrict a user from accessing the document root directory?
[01:52] <jm2k> sn9_: best way to upgrade to 2.6.24-19?
[01:52] <galshawna> Anyone here know about Gecko, which allows launchers and other non-web browser applications to display HTML? And how to install it?
ok already newest version 0 done 0 etc no changes made
[01:52] <sn9_> z662: by changing permissions
[01:52] <bloodrock> CirclesCenter, by shoehorn you mean automaticaly resize to add ubuntu?
[01:52] <Shujah> jin: in title bar layout change title to thsi > (2)C(3)N(2)X::T(2)S <<<but backup the theme before hand
[01:52] <sn9_> jm2k: should simply ask to do it for you
[01:52] <z662> sn9_, but then apache wont serve them....unless i did it wrong
[01:53] <galshawna> Is there a wine channel?
[01:53] <bob3213243> what is a keyring
[01:53] <sn9_> z662: oh, you mean a web user...
[01:53] <CirclesCenter> Ok maybe I'm explaining this wrong. When it asks where to install Ubuntu it gives me no options on where to put it.
[01:53] <slavik> galshawna: #winehq
[01:53] <Shujah> galshawna, try playonlinux <-- go to their sitew
[01:53] <bloodrock> CirclesCenter, you useing the livecd right now
[01:53] <galshawna> Shujah, I'll check that out.
[01:54] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: are you using the ubuntu windows installer, or did you boot the cd?
[01:54] <z662> sn9_, i have a user that i gave ssh perms to, but i have htaccess files in my document root i dont want the user to be able to access, however i would still like to be able to sign into apache via http to access them
[01:54] <CirclesCenter> No I'm in XP, but I can be in a minute if need be.
[01:54] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, worry not dude you already know more about Ubuntu then most :D
[01:54] <sn9_> z662: sounds like your groups are screwed up
[01:54] <CirclesCenter> I was booting the Live Cd sorry for the bad answer
[01:54] <slavik> how do I get sound input to be echoed to the speakers? (there is no hardware mixing on my sound card which is a cmi8788)
[01:55] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: the livecd does ask at some point
[01:55] <z662> sn9_, what group ownership should document root be then? i dont have an apache group according to 'groups'
[01:55] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, one thing you ought to be careful about is root
[01:55] <sn9_> z662: maybe you should make one
[01:55] <sn9_> z662: www-data
[01:55] <CirclesCenter> sn_9, yeah when it asks where to put it the list is completely blank.
[01:56] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, yes?  you mean where you run the scary delete every thing command?
[01:56] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: oh. do you have an older sata controller?
[01:56] <z662> sn9_,  so make a group of www-data, then use chown www-data /var/www and everything should work fine with apache?
 thanks, problem not solved yet but i have to go to bed now - very tired. i'll try in the morning. thank you for having a go.
[01:56] <galshawna> If anyone here has used wine, cedega, and crossover, which do you think works best?
[01:56] <sn9_> z662: chgrp, but yes
[01:56] <z662> thanks sn9_
[01:57] <sn9_> galshawna: crossover, wine, cedega, in that order
[01:57] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, when ever your do any actions as a root it *might* change some settings such as ownership of files/directories/devices which then wont be accessible by non-root users and ofcourse wrong commands acn cripple the system,
[01:57] <bloodrock> sn9_, think he said his drive was a sata II
[01:57] <galshawna> sn9_, what advantages does crossover have to wine?
[01:57] <sn9_> bloodrock: i asked about the controller, not the drive
[01:58] <Shujah> rvtcadmin, so until and unless you do something wrong as a root, you are safe :d
[01:58] <sn9_> galshawna: more recent updates&fixes, priority support
[01:58] <galshawna> Do programs run better under crossfire than in wine? Like would I be better off trying to get WoW to work in crossover than in wine?
[01:59] <CirclesCenter> sn_9 I don't think it's too old. This is what it says about the deal: ATI SB600 South Bridge: 4x SATA II RAID
[01:59] <sn9_> galshawna: WoW works fine under wine
[01:59] <dsmith_> ubuntu on sale at bestbuy now
[01:59] <Cyndre> galshawna: have you added the wine repositorys?
[01:59] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: put it in AHCI mode
[01:59] <galshawna> sn9_, It actually is working alright for me. Only that when I close wine my resolution is all screwed up until I restart.
[01:59] <rvtcadmin> Shujah, every time I do something as sudo, i'm doing it as root?
[01:59] <galshawna> Cyndre, yes I have the wine repo.
[01:59] <Shujah> rvtcadmin,  yup
[01:59] <CirclesCenter> sn9_, not to be a moron, but that's in the BIOS right?
[02:00] <bob3213243> what is a keyring
[02:00] <sn9_> CirclesCenter: yes, and make sure you're installing 8.04.1, not some earlier version
[02:00] <galshawna> sn9_, I meant WoW. when I close WoW after playing it my resolution is bad.
[02:00] <Cyndre> galshawna: Thought I would check - from what I have heard WoW works fine in wine, but I dont have any experience playing it
[02:01] <Shujah> but using sudo for synaptic is ok - using root account e,g, sudo nautlilus is a bit risky unless you are sure what you are doing
[02:01] <galshawna> Cyndre, I haven't really had a hard time with wine. It works fine for me, I was just kind of curious what might be better than wine. The only thing I really don't like is how WoW messes up my screen resolution.
[02:01] <CirclesCenter> sn9_, rodger that, thank you very much, this is my second go round with linux and before asking a question was like asking to be shot, now however it is much much nicer and you get answers instead of made fun of.
[02:01] <CirclesCenter> Thanks!
[02:01] <CirclesCenter> :)
[02:02] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[02:02] <notWeb> Hello, I need some help setting up a palm pilot on Hardy Heron.
[02:03] <sn9_> notWeb: you need to unblacklist the visor module
[02:03] <Drk_Guy> !palm | notWeb
[02:03] <notWeb> sn9, can we go off to a separate room to talk about this?   Too much traffic here.
[02:03] <rockyrock> s3a, are u here?
[02:03] <pdg1> what exactly does compiling do?
[02:03] <s3a> rockyrock: ya
[02:04] <sn9_> notWeb: as it should be
[02:05] <rockyrock> s3a, the stup still waiting for an answer for this in the Terminal: Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?
[02:05] <rockyrock> [/lib/modules/2.6.24-generic/build]
[02:05] <notWeb> ubottu: I've started reading the guide in Evolution, but it asks me to go to GNOME System > Settings, and I can't find that.  :(
[02:05] <rockyrock> s3a, i didn't know what should i do!
[02:05] <sn9_> notWeb: it's at the top of the screen
[02:05] <s3a> rockyrock: how do u do the pm thing?
[02:06] <notWeb> Yeah, System at top of screen, but then where's Settings?
[02:06] <sn9_> notWeb: Preferences
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> s3a, /query <someone>
[02:06] <pdg1> I'm trying to get gXiso...
[02:06] <pdg1>  I think i've got the source
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> pdgl, is it on the repos?
[02:06] <pdg1> pretty sure it isn't
[02:06] <notWeb> sn9: I'm trying to get to Pilot Link.  There's no Pilot Link under Preferences.
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> apt-cache search gXiso | pdgl
[02:07] <Drk_Guy> Just to make sure pdgl
[02:07] <sn9_> notWeb: PalmOS Devices
[02:07] <Drk_Guy> That won't need sudo
[02:07] <notWeb> sn9: Damn!  You're right.  How could I have missed that?
[02:07] <s3a> virtualbox-ose tells me sumtin bout kernel wat do i do (i added myself to vboxusers)
[02:07] <Drk_Guy> XD notWeb
[02:07] <notWeb> Pls don't leave.  I'm going to run that...
[02:08] <Drk_Guy> !virtualbox | s3a
[02:08] <sn9_> s3a: yes, add yourself to that group
[02:08] <bob3213243> what is a keyring
[02:08] <sn9_> !repositories | bob3213243
[02:08] <slavik> !keyring | bob3213243
[02:09] <s3a> sn9_: i alredy did that
[02:09] <sn9_> s3a: log out and back in
[02:09] <slavik> bob3213243: keyring is a single place to store your password to various resources
[02:09] <Drk_Guy> bob3213243, the keyring keeps keys on a safe
[02:09] <notWeb> sn9: should I say I've used sync software with this PDA before, or not?  I have, but not on this computer...
[02:10] <Dillizar> aaaa how to install mozilla 3
[02:10] <sn9_> notWeb: it's a bad idea to sync palm devices with more than one computer at a time
[02:11] <Erick|Laptop> When i try to start Compiz-Fusion by typing "compiz
[02:11] <notWeb> sn9: agreed.  But I'm transferring this one from a Win98 system, to Ubuntu...  For my mother, FWIW.  :)
[02:11] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know how to set Apache to only allow 1 connection per IP?
[02:11] <Erick|Laptop> When i try to start Compiz-Fusion by typing "compiz" in terminal, i get the error
[02:11] <notWeb> sn9: actually, I'm past that dialog.
[02:12] <notWeb> Decided it was a yes.  Otherwise it was h\going to initialize a new PDA ID...
[02:12] <bynet23> allo
[02:12] <genii> Erick|Laptop: ALT-F2  compiz --replace
[02:13] <Erick|Laptop> genii, its telling me it cannot find Xgl and there is no whitelisted driver found
[02:13] <nickr-> how do i get out of fstab? :o
[02:13] <Erick|Laptop> and, i dont know how to use my keyboard ;)
[02:13] <sn9_> nickr-: depends on how you got in
[02:13] <nickr-> i got into it by console
[02:13] <sn9_> nickr-: ...
[02:13] <nickr-> now im done editing
[02:14] <notWeb> sn9: ubottu was right: need to install visor module.   How do I do that?
[02:14] <nickr-> how do i get out now
[02:14] <codyt07> Hey, i am running ubuntu Hardy 64 bit, is their any tricks/tips to improve the sound quality. I have a on board video card but the sound seems rather thin. Or is linux sound still a beta thing?
[02:14] <sn9_> notWeb: i said that, not ubottu
[02:14] <burner> 64-bit is a sketchy thing compared with 32-bit
[02:14] <genii> nickr-: So probably either :qw              or else ctrl-x
[02:14] <yowshi1> !compiz
[02:14] <notWeb> sn9: sorry: didn't mean to take anything away from you.  You're being really helpful, and I appreciate it a lot.
[02:15] <Erick|Laptop> when i try to start compiz-fusion by typing "compiz" in terminal i get the error "Checking for Xgl: not present" "No whitelisted driver found" "aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity"
[02:15] <FAJALOU> I have an LCD monitor that is showing up as a CRT in nvidia-settings.  Is this a problem for anything or not?
[02:15] <sn9_> notWeb: there is a file in /etc/modprobe.d called something like libpisock9
[02:16] <sn9_> notWeb: get rid of the blacklisting line in it
[02:16] <notWeb> Yeah, found the file.  Just a sec.
[02:17] <pc3_> deska_dea
[02:18] <utarpradesh> where can I download microphone DRivers?
[02:19] <utarpradesh> I can't get my mic to work
[02:19] <utarpradesh> in audacity
[02:19] <Kcaj> Okay d00dz
[02:19] <FAJALOU> have you tried unmuting it utarpradesh
[02:19] <Kcaj> I got compiz working again
[02:19] <utarpradesh> yes
[02:19] <Kcaj> How do I get compiz the sphere?
[02:19] <utarpradesh> wait, where is the mic mut button?
[02:19] <Kcaj> Instead of just the cube one. I mean, the cube is sweet and all, but I wants the sphere, yo.
[02:19] <FAJALOU> yes there is.
[02:19] <s3a> can sum1 help me with virtualbox-ose
[02:20] <s3a> i get VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED). wen trying to load xp cd thu virtualbox-os
[02:20] <s3a> virtualbox-ose*
[02:20] <sn9_> s3a: sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[02:21] <notWeb> sn9: OK, I'm back.  Commented out that line.
[02:21] <s3a> sn9_: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[02:21] <notWeb> what's next?
[02:21] <Kcaj> I mean, I don't see anything related to "sphere" or "round" when I synaptics for compiz, or those terms themselves, nothing related to compiz
[02:21] <Kcaj> Any help?
[02:21] <pdg1> okay... nothing in the repos
[02:21] <sn9_> notWeb: plug in the palm
[02:21] <befr0d> Hi, I'm looking for a simple Video Editor that would allow me to narrate a video
[02:22] <notWeb> sn9: plugged in and ready to rock.
[02:22] <FAJALOU> Kcaj: #compiz-fusion might be able to help, and it's only available on the newer compiz versions.... ie not the ones in the repos
[02:22] <notWeb> I'll try syncing again
[02:22] <sn9_> befr0d: what format?
[02:22] <gam3r111> can i help my friend through help and support in window sif im ub=sing ubuntu?
[02:22] <Kcaj> So that essentially means I gotta be compiling it?
[02:22] <befr0d> sn9_,  its mpg, I've already tried diva but I cant import the video file
[02:22] <FAJALOU> Kcaj:  i think that you can get the new one from the git repos, but they are not recommended.
[02:23] <sn9_> befr0d: you will probably need cinelerra, then
[02:23] <gam3r111> ﻿can i help my friend through help and support in windows if im using ubuntu?
[02:24] <FAJALOU> gam3r111: depends on what you are trying to do.
[02:24] <sn9_> gam3r111: if your friend turns on desktop sharing, you can connect
[02:25] <jpratt> ok, I need more help, Need help with samba and Desktop effects. Would be greatly appreciated.
[02:25] <gam3r111> sn9_: wat if they send u a file through im?
[02:25] <FAJALOU> jpratt:  what with desktop effects?
[02:25] <sn9_> gam3r111: that should work, barring any firewall issues
[02:25] <gam3r111> ok thx
[02:25] <conduit4sale> hi
[02:26] <jpratt> FAJALOU: They refuse to Enable
[02:26] <sn9_> hi | conduit4sale
[02:26] <sn9_> !hi | conduit4sale
[02:26] <conduit4sale> i just installed ubuntu 8.04 hardy heron everything works okay except wireless
[02:26] <FAJALOU> jpratt: what is your videocard and monitor
[02:26] <FAJALOU> conduit4sale: did it used to work
[02:26] <conduit4sale> yeah
[02:26] <conduit4sale> i was on windows xp before
[02:26] <FAJALOU> ahh , ok,
[02:26] <jpratt> Its an ATI mobility radeon M6, And im on a laptop
[02:26] <FAJALOU> is it pci or usb?
[02:26] <conduit4sale> i think its pci
[02:27] <conduit4sale> its a broadcom 4318
[02:27] <FAJALOU> do you have the cd for it?
[02:27] <notWeb> sn9: I don't seem to have a /dev/pilot .
[02:27] <FAJALOU> !broadcom | conduit4sale
[02:27] <FAJALOU> jpratt:  sorry is that relatively new?
[02:27] <sn9_> conduit4sale: connect with a wire temporarily, and install the b43-fwcutter pkg
[02:27] <pdg1> Drk_Guy: gXiso is not on the repos...
[02:28] <sn9_> ubottu: forget broadcom
[02:28] <jpratt> FAJALOU: No, Not at all but i had them working once before When i had Ubuntu on here, But had to install Windows for a slew of reasons
[02:28] <FAJALOU> conduit4sale: or you could also take the packages from packages.ubuntu.com put them on a flash drive and then install them from there.
[02:28] <Drk_Guy> pdg1, then compile it off, refer to the project's wiki for dependancies and -dev packages for compiling
[02:28] <drash> befr0d: open movie editor has support for anything ffmpeg can read .. might be another one to check .. http://www.openmovieeditor.org/
[02:28] <FAJALOU> ok jpratt is compiz installe?
[02:29] <FAJALOU> installed ?
[02:29] <sn9_> conduit4sale: don't do what FAJALOU said
[02:29] <Drk_Guy> pdg1, If they do not metion -dev packages, only install dependancies with -dev endings ;O)
[02:29] <jpratt> FAJALOU: Yep
[02:29] <FAJALOU> ok, good good ;)
[02:29] <FAJALOU> have you installed fusion-icon?
[02:30] <pdg1> okay... I'm going to assume that there's some super documenting in the Ubuntu wiki on compiling
[02:30] <jpratt> Conduit4Sale:sn9 helped me with my wireless troubles
[02:30] <jpratt> FAJALOU: maybe
[02:30] <pdg1> because I really have no clue how to compile...
[02:30] <FAJALOU> ok can you check that out?
[02:30] <jpratt> Working on it
[02:30] <Drk_Guy> !compiling | pdg1
[02:30] <conduit4sale> alright it said that all broadcom cards should be working with 8.04 but its not
[02:31] <sn9_> conduit4sale: the revision 2 4312's don't
[02:31] <jpratt> Conduit4Sale, Are you On the Ubuntu comp right now?
[02:31] <conduit4sale> i have a 4318
[02:31] <conduit4sale> yeah
[02:31] <sn9_> conduit4sale: but 4318 works
[02:31] <conduit4sale> im connected with a lan
[02:31] <conduit4sale> ethernet
[02:31] <conduit4sale> it detects the wireless card
[02:31] <pdg1> oh cool beans...
[02:32] <conduit4sale> but no networks are shown
[02:32] <ASULutzy> Is there any sensible/semisafe way to get the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver that Intrepid uses onto my hardy install? This driver fixes my S-video problem, as well as enables a few compiz plugins that don't currently function 100% correctly. I tried just adding intrepid to my /etc/apt/sources.list and then doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel, but apt-get basically told me I was an idiot... Any id
[02:32] <ASULutzy> !enter | conduit4sale
[02:32] <pdg1> thanks Dr_guy
[02:32] <pdg1> Drk_Guy
[02:32] <jpratt> sn9_ will what you told me to do for mine work for him?
[02:32] <FAJALOU> !ubuntu+1 | ASULutzy
[02:32] <sn9_> ASULutzy: enable updates and backports
[02:32] <ASULutzy> FAJALOU: That wasn't what I asked. I need Hardy support. Not intrepid support.
[02:32] <AMLNXUSR> anyone know how i can extract or mount bin files?
[02:32] <FAJALOU> sorry sorry sorry, my bad ASULutzy
[02:33] <ASULutzy> sn9_: I tried that, 2:2.3.2-2 isn't in backports or updates as far as I can tell :-/
[02:33] <sn9_> jpratt: i don't remember what you had anymore :/
[02:33] <notWeb> sn9: what to do about missing /dev/pilot?
[02:33] <sn9_> ASULutzy: then wait
[02:33] <Drk_Guy> pdg1, don't worry, and try writing drk and pressing tab ;)
[02:33] <jpratt> sn9_: WPC54GS ver. 2
[02:33] <Nikyo> Hi I have Ubuntu 8.04, Two Hard Drives on a ATA controller card are showing in the menu. I can click on these drives and they mount and show on the desktop. What I need, is for both of them to mount each time I log into Ubuntu. Tried to enter two lines in FSTAB, does not work, suggestions, please.
[02:33] <pdg1> Drk_Guy: WHOA!
[02:33] <sn9_> notWeb: you plugged in after commenting, right?
[02:33] <travis_> hello
[02:33] <spoontastic> ASULutzy, why not just download the package, instead of adding repos? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.3.2-2ubuntu3
[02:34] <Drk_Guy> XD pdg1 :)
[02:34] <pdg1> IRC is strange
[02:34] <sn9_> jpratt: then, yes
[02:34] <notWeb> sn9: no was connected prior.
[02:34] <travis_> I still don't know why, but something has erased all my privileges so i can't even install anythung?
[02:34] <ASULutzy> spoontastic: heh, I tried that too, that's like dependency hell, and trying to resolve it manually is dang near impossible ;)
[02:34] <travis_> what to do next?
[02:34] <theacolyte> so I've got this problem, I'm installing 8.04.1 and for some reason the installer (live cd version) seems to have stopped accept input - I tried to cancel it, but the cancel button doesn't do anything
[02:34] <sn9_> notWeb: when i said "now plug it in" i meant it
[02:34] <jpratt> Conduit4Sale: Go to synaptic package manager
[02:34] <theacolyte> How do I close the live cd installation wizard (what processes?)
[02:34] <AMLNXUSR> anyone know how i can extract or mount bin files?
[02:34] <ASULutzy> spoontastic: I guess I can just boot into Intrepid when I need S-video, still... It's so close! Maybe I can just QQ to package managers to hurry up and pipe intel 2:2.3.2.2-ubuntu3 to the hardy repos
[02:35] <Jordan_U> travis_:  What do you mean "has erased all my privileges" , do you get an error?
[02:35] <conduit4sale> i have a broadcom bcm4318 wireless card.  im running ubuntu hardy heron 8.04 and it detects the wireless card but when it doesnt detect any networks even though its on roaming mode.  also any attempts to manually  connect wont work either
[02:35] <conduit4sale> okay
[02:35] <travis_> yes
[02:35] <spoontastic> conduit4sale, did you look at that wiki page?
[02:35] <sn9_> conduit4sale: did you install b43-fwcutter like i said?
[02:35] <conduit4sale> which one
[02:35] <jetroid> Nikyo, I know it's not a solution, but as far as I know, fstab is just a "lookup" file for mounting...it doesn't *automatically* mount them at start-up (but that is obvious from what you said...)
[02:35] <spoontastic> !broadcom | conduit4sale
[02:35] <conduit4sale> im looking for it right now
[02:35] <theacolyte> nm, I guess it was ubiquity
[02:36] <travis_> travis is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[02:36] <Jordan_U> travis_: Can you post it ( if it is more than one line please use pastebin )
[02:36] <conduit4sale> the b43 isnt listed
[02:36] <sn9_> conduit4sale: refresh package list
[02:37] <jpratt> FAJALOU: It is Now (Fusion-icon installed)
[02:37] <ASULutzy> conduit4sale: I would use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff for broadcom help. It's worked for me and for many many others. Ndiswrapper isn't ideal for all, but it works 100% stable and fine for me.
[02:37] <travis_> Jordan_u: travis is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[02:37] <enderbean> Hello, I'm trying to set up a seaside app on my computer. It works, unless I set it up on port 80, in which case the connection is refused. Any advice on resolving this would be appreciated.
[02:37] <sn9_> ASULutzy: that is for feisty, not hardy
[02:37] <ASULutzy> sn9_: It works for Hardy just fine
[02:37] <conduit4sale> sn9: refreshing right now
[02:37] <sn9_> ASULutzy: using that method on hardy is just silly
[02:37] <Jordan_U> travis_: You will need to add yourself to the "admin" group, that requires root privileges of course so you will need to boot into recovery mode unless there is another user that can use sudo
[02:37] <ASULutzy> sn9_: Several ops will suggest it as well, including Jack_Sparrow
[02:37] <spoontastic> conduit4sale, follow the links, man
[02:38] <travis_> ok so
[02:38] <spoontastic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5BAirForce_One_54g%5D_(Native_Driver)
[02:38] <travis_> reboot in recovery mode
[02:38] <travis_> ad travis to admin
[02:38] <sn9_> ASULutzy: no wonder ubottu is so confused about broadcom
[02:38] <travis_> add
 Thanks for that info.. after I click on them.. I can access them ok.. but the thing is that I am running Samba Server on Ubuntu.. and I would like to be able to access the drives from another computer instead of logging in to the Ubuntu box.. then clicking on the drives first to mount them..
[02:38] <ASULutzy> sn9_: That's not true, several people's broadcom cards still aren't recognized in Hardy, mine for example. I was unable to get any solution to work other than the ndiswrapper one (of course I did buy a cheap wireless USB adapter for when I need monitor mode ;))
[02:38] <travis_> thanks
[02:38] <travis_> i'll try
[02:39] <Nikyo> I;ve looked around for a fix action before coming here..
[02:39] <sn9_> ASULutzy: do you have a 4312?
[02:39] <jpratt> I still need helps with Desktop effects please
[02:39] <ASULutzy> sn9_: That probably has more to do with my ineptitude, but still, the feisty solution works for lots of people including myself ;) No, I have a 4310 rev01
[02:39] <spoontastic> conduit4sale, nm, that link is for something else
[02:39] <sn9_> ASULutzy: because 4318 is well-supported
[02:39] <gregbrady> ASULutzy, yep, mine too.  broadcom is no good and constant overheating.  I had to switch back to XP to make it all work.
[02:39] <spoontastic> just get the cutter package, anyway
[02:40] <untraceable> Sn9_: do you know if the Atheros 5008 is supported in Ubuntu
I know also that there is a "sessions" feature in Ubuntu that can save running applications and also you can aoutostart commands.. however.. that does not seem to work either.
[02:40] <sn9_> untraceable: 5008 will "just work" but 5007 will not
[02:40] <akuma55> if i want to download something from off the ether with wget can i tell it were i want to put it?
[02:40] <sn9_> akuma55: -P
[02:40] <notWeb> sn9_: I unplugged it.  Ran the Initial Sync again, and got the same results.  What's my next move?
[02:41] <conduit4sale> sn9: i just got the b43firewire cutter i also installed ndiswrapper common
[02:41] <ASULutzy> akuma55: it will download to your pwd by default, just cd to the directory you want to download it to
[02:41] <sn9_> notWeb: is the module loaded?
[02:41] <Jordan_U> akuma55: wget URL -O filename
[02:41] <untraceable> Sn9_: by "just work" wat do you mean?
[02:41] <notWeb> sn9_: where should I look for that module?
[02:41] <sn9_> conduit4sale: it's firmware, not firewire
[02:41] <sn9_> notWeb: lsmod
[02:41] <sn9_> untraceable: i mean plug&go
[02:41] <ASULutzy> akuma55: Alternatively you can use -O
[02:42] <joshual> hey, anyone rember a gtk2 theme that uses a progress bar that looks exactly like the ubuntu boot splash progress bar? (trying to find theme that matches that boot splash, black, orange (white)...
[02:42] <conduit4sale> sn9: wordo.  should the wireless networks be showing up now or should i try disconnecting from ethernet and restarting first?
[02:42] <joshual> http://johan.kiviniemi.name/tmp/what-usplash
[02:42] <untraceable> Sn9_: so its good out of the box
[02:42] <sn9_> conduit4sale: restart if it's built-in
[02:42] <conduit4sale> okay brb
[02:42] <notWeb> sn9_: yep, visor *is* loaded.
[02:42] <sn9_> untraceable: yes
[02:42] <conduit4sale> thnx ahead of time
[02:42] <ASULutzy> Yea, just got engaged last weekend :)
[02:43] <ASULutzy> Whoops, that was a mistelll... Now the world knows
[02:43] <ASULutzy> lol
[02:43] <notWeb> (man, this IRC is a contact sport...)
[02:43] <sn9_> notWeb: but no /dev/pilot?
[02:43] <akuma55> sn9_, like say a zip would it be like 'wget -p whatever.zip /my/location
[02:44] <untraceable> Sn9_: alright looks like im buying an Atheros 5008, THX for the insight Sn9_ it was greatly appriciated
[02:44] <koolranch> Hi everyone, I could use some help downloading files to Ubuntu
[02:44] <koolranch> would anyone be willing to help me out?
[02:44] <sn9_> akuma55: wget -P /my/location whatever.zip OR wget whatever.zip -P /my/location
[02:44] <cdm10> koolranch: what sort of files?
[02:44] <notWeb> sn9_: ls in /dev doesnt list a pilot.
[02:44] <ASULutzy> akuma55: you could either just cd to /my/location and do wget http://whatever.com/thezip, or do wget http://whatever.com/thezip -O /my/location/
[02:44] <sn9_> notWeb: odd
[02:44] <koolranch> any kind of file that's not in the synaptic, like the eMusic.com music player and mp3s
[02:44] <koolranch> and java
[02:44] <ASULutzy> akuma55: Oh, is it -P? I may be wrong there ;)
[02:45] <sn9_> ASULutzy: -O is for naming the downloaded file
[02:45] <cdm10> koolranch: to install Java, just run the command < sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[02:45] <akuma55> ?
[02:45] <koolranch> I've only had Ubuntu for a day
[02:45] <ASULutzy> sn9_: Ah ok, I always just cd to the directory and run wget inside the directory :P
[02:45] <koolranch> ok
[02:45] <akuma55> what does the -p stand for
[02:45] <ASULutzy> akuma55: man wget
[02:46] <koolranch> how did you know the name of the file "sun-java6-plugin?"
[02:46] <notWeb> sn9_: what was supposed to happen?
[02:46] <koolranch> and do I need to download it to my desktop first?
[02:46] <cdm10> koolranch: I've just answered the question "how do I install java" quite a lot :)
[02:46] <cdm10> koolranch: no, the package manager will download the package and install it for you.
[02:46] <koolranch> ok
[02:46] <ASULutzy> koolranch: Experience, but also you can usually click System -> Administration -> Synaptic package manager, and search in there. Also if you sudo apt-get install bash-completion, it lets you use tab complete for lots of things, even package names
[02:46] <sn9_> never mind; my bad. just try to sync anyway
[02:46] <cdm10> koolranch: the command aptitude is just another way of accessing the package manager, just like Synaptic or Add/Remove
[02:46] <sn9_> nonever mind; my bad. just try to sync anyway
[02:47] <sn9_> notWeb: never mind; my bad. just try to sync anyway
[02:47] <koolranch> so I could just type in that command line right now, and Ubuntu would find java and install it?
[02:47] <cdm10> koolranch: Well, it might, and if not, we'll have to enable something, and it will. Just try it :)
[02:47] <koolranch> ok, I'll try it
[02:47] <cdm10> koolranch: Do you know how to get to the Terminal to enter commands?
[02:47] <notWeb> yeah, got that.  It actually says "Put PDA in Cradle (/dev/pilot) and press HotSync button."
[02:47] <koolranch> yes
[02:47] <koolranch> but I only know the absolute baiscs
[02:47] <koolranch> *basics
[02:48] <jm2k> best tutorial to upgrade hardy kernel to newer stable version?
[02:48] <sn9_> jm2k: none is usually needed
[02:48] <ASULutzy> heh, I wonder how bad I would hose up my system trying to resolve all the dependencies for Intrepid's version of xserver-xorg-video-intel inside my Hardy install...
[02:48] <dolphin_noel> is there something bether then mp3info to check the bitrate from mp3?!
[02:48] <ASULutzy> jm2k: Usually you can just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:49] <dolphin_noel> sometimes looks it dont give to me the right values
[02:49] <dolphin_noel> :x
[02:49] <sn9_> ASULutzy: very badly
[02:49] <trakinas> dolphin_noel, on the therminal?
[02:49] <koolranch> ok, it appears to be installing cdm10
[02:49] <trakinas> *terminal
[02:49] <cdm10> dolphin_noel: if you're in Gnome, you can look in the properties window... why do you think tehy're wrong?
[02:49] <notWeb> sn9_: trying the sync.  Nothing happening on the PC.  Eventually gives up on PDA.
[02:49] <koolranch> thanks a ton
[02:49] <cdm10> koolranch: No problem.
[02:49] <dolphin_noel> trakinas nathing to nautilus?!
[02:49] <koolranch> how do I install other things, though, like the emusic music player and mp3s?
[02:49] <drash> ASULutzy: it's not worth the effort if you want to keep some hair for that engagement party, congrats btw ;)
[02:49] <dolphin_noel> trakinas ohh you tell to i see it in terminal right? :x inside watch the nautilus?!
[02:49] <jm2k> sn9_: might be me but ur replies are a bit cryptic.
[02:49] <sn9_> notWeb: oh, duh, i forgot that you need to edit the udev rules
[02:50] <gluer> how do i configure my intel card to allow dual montior with extended desktop support in hardy? is there an app i can download?
[02:50] <ASULutzy> sn9_: Yea, agree... I'm bummed, in Intrepid everything works perfectly for me except virtualbox crashes when I boot XP vdi's that work under Hardy, and in Hardy there are a few compiz plugins that don't work, but more importantly S-video doesn't work, so I have to do this constant reboot dance and it stinks :(
[02:50] <jm2k> ASULutzy: tried apt-get but nothing.
[02:50] <cdm10> koolranch: As for the eMusic download manager, it looks like I have to sign up first in order to see the client to download, so I can't really help you with that... you might want to try googling for it.
[02:50] <trakinas> dolphin_noel, you see it on nautilus or terminal?
[02:50] <ASULutzy> drash: lol thanks ;) and good point
[02:50] <dolphin_noel> cdm10 because i have some mp3 that sometimes give to me some values and i click again and give it to me anothers ...
[02:50] <koolranch> ok
[02:50] <cdm10> dolphin_noel: well, that's really weird...
[02:50] <koolranch> what about mp3s?
[02:50] <dolphin_noel> trakinas well ussually in the natilus :x
[02:50] <notWeb> sn9_: uhhuh, \and taht would be what?
[02:50] <ASULutzy> jm2k: What kernel are you currently using?
[02:50] <jm2k> ASULutzy: currently running 2.6.22.14 but need to upgrade to 2.6.25.10
[02:50] <koolranch> I download them and they just show up as an xml file on my desktop
[02:50] <tech0007> jm2k: what's 'uname -r'
[02:50] <cdm10> ﻿koolranch: if you want to download an mp3 from a website, just right-click it and click Save As, just like in Firefox on any other OS.
[02:50] <cdm10> koolranch: where are you downloading them from?
[02:50] <hlfshell> howdy gang
[02:50] <koolranch> emusic.com
[02:51] <travis> jordan_9: it worked
[02:51] <sn9_> notWeb: search the forums; the answer is there somewhere
[02:51] <hlfshell> if you're curious, i just lost respect for myself for saying howdy.
[02:51] <dolphin_noel> cdm10 yes that why i'm asking because i have sometimes like 96 kbps ... but the file size and everything is very good ...
[02:51] <ASULutzy> jm2k: Ah, that's not available in Hardy afaik, you'd have to compile that yourself I believe...
[02:51] <trakinas> dolphin_noel, no idea. i check bitrates when playing. lol
[02:51] <ASULutzy> !kernel | jm2k
[02:51] <cdm10> koolranch: it seems like you might need some sort of plugin in that case... I'm really not familiar with eMusic, though.
[02:51] <koolranch> I see
[02:51] <koolranch> do you have any idea where I might find a plugin like that?
[02:51] <travis> Jordan_U: now i have aniother question
[02:51] <notWeb> sn9_: I'm searching for?  "udev rules pilot"?
[02:51] <dolphin_noel> and sometimes i put it once and then click again and dont give to me the same value :x it happens to 3 or 5 mp3 -+
[02:51] <travis> Jordan_U: how can i load all my aliases on boot?
[02:52] <sn9_> notWeb: visor module permissions
[02:52] <dolphin_noel> trakinas yes probably is bether ... :x
[02:52] <koolranch> and is that a plugin for firefox, or for ubuntu?
[02:52] <Jordan_U> travis: Bash aliases?
[02:52] <jm2k> ASULutzy: trying to get madwifi compiled but needs 2.6.23+
[02:52] <travis> Jordan_U: yes
[02:52] <amenado> travis  /etc/profile
[02:52] <Jordan_U> travis: Put them in your ~/.bashrc
[02:52] <dolphin_noel> trakinas could be some refresh problem ... in the nautilus :x ... or something i dont know :x
[02:52] <travis> ok
[02:52] <snarkster> hi
[02:53] <herrkin> hi everyone..
[02:53] <jm2k> ASULutzy: since i dont want to mess with Ubuntu kernel i thought there would be an easy step to it.
[02:53] <travis> thanks dude i've just started and i love it!
[02:53] <travis> linux rules!
[02:53] <sn9_> jm2k: it happens automagically for everybody else
[02:53] <hlfshell> jetroid, you therE?
[02:53] <herrkin> I need somebody to help me configure the ati driver in hardy
[02:53] <herrkin> can somebody help me?
[02:53] <amenado> jm2k-> i dont think you require that as minimum..2.6.23+ to compile a madwifi
[02:54] <ASULutzy> jm2k: you said you needed 2.6.25 before, which is it?
[02:54] <poseidon> !rules
[02:55] <ASULutzy> jm2k: also what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:55] <herrkin> I have tried quite a bit but nothing seems to work
[02:55] <jm2k> sn9_: i did upgrade to stable hardy when it came out but a few weeks ago, downloaded updates and my Atheros AR5212 card stopped working.
[02:55] <ASULutzy> jm2k: Because in Hardy the newest stable kernel is I believe 2.6.24-19, which is above what you said you neeeded (2.6.23+)
[02:55] <jm2k> ASULutzy: Hardy.
[02:56] <ASULutzy> jm2k: What's in your /etc/apt/sources.list? Because I use hardy and have 2.6.24.19-generic
[02:56] <cpk1> jm2k: if you are talking about madwifis requirement for the kernel its Linux Kernel 2.4.23+ and 2.6.x series
[02:56] <jpratt> Hey i did the sudo blah blah for java and now i need to hit ok But Its in the bloody terminal, Help
[02:56] <cdm10> jpratt: hit tab until it gets there
[02:56] <jpratt> Thanks
[02:57] <herrkin> can somebody help me?
[02:57] <jm2k> ASULutzy: all sources are Hardy universe/multiverse.
[02:57] <trakinas> dolphin_noel, no idea.
[02:57] <theacolyte> So... NVIDIA drivers. Should I go with the official NVIDIA drivers, or the restricted ones?
[02:57] <jpratt> Herrkin: Ask away im sure someone here can
[02:58] <dolphin_noel> trakinas neither i lol :) that why i was asking :x :)
[02:58] <sn9_> jm2k: you need "main" and "restricted" too
[02:58] <cdm10> theacolyte: the restricted ones are the official ones from nVidia
[02:58] <dolphin_noel> no problem that ok
[02:58] <dolphin_noel> :)
[02:58] <ASULutzy> jm2k: Do you want to paste it to a pastebin? My sources.list has everything except backports enabled
[02:58] <cdm10> theacolyte: and, I recommend them... without them, you can't get accelerated graphics.
[02:58] <theacolyte> cdm10: They're also about 5 revisions older
[02:58] <theacolyte> hmmm
[02:58] <herrkin> I am asking everyone if somebody can help me, the ati channel seems to be dead
[02:58] <theacolyte> I've gotten it to work on 7, but this time I'm wondering about it
[02:58] <sn9_> ASULutzy: you should enable backports and disable proposed
[02:58] <jm2k> yes that too: ubuntu hardy-security main restricted
[02:59] <ASULutzy> sn9_: Er, sorry I don't have proposed enabled either
[02:59] <snarkster> ati drivers are for only new hardware, they dont have an archive like nVidia does
[02:59] <ASULutzy> !anyone | herrkin
[02:59] <theacolyte> the restricted drivers are 167 or something like that, the latest official drivers are 173
[02:59] <theacolyte> thus my concern
[02:59] <cdm10> theacolyte: it's true that they're behind, but it's up to you whether you want to deal with the hassle of the nVidia driver packaging
[02:59] <theacolyte> do the ubuntu-restricted drivers come with the control panel?
[02:59] <theacolyte> cdm10: now *that* I can understand :)
[02:59] <danaman5> Where in the file system are the default icons stored?
[02:59] <sn9_> theacolyte: some do
[03:00] <cdm10> danaman5: /usr/share/icons, i believe
[03:00] <danaman5> thanks
[03:00] <herrkin> does anyone know how to configure ati x800 card drivers?
[03:00] <theacolyte> sn9_: sorry, I was referring to the NVIDIA ones
[03:00] <snarkster> the icons are usually stored in /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps
[03:00] <sn9_> theacolyte: then, no
[03:00] <ASULutzy> sn9_: But I guess I can enable backports for funsies. ;)
[03:00] <herrkin> I have made a lot of stuff but none worked..
[03:00] <sn9_> theacolyte: but it will install them
[03:00] <ASULutzy> herrkin: Have you tried using envyng? it pretty much does most of the work for you
[03:00] <ASULutzy> !envy | herrkin
[03:00] <herrkin> yes
[03:00] <theacolyte> sn9_: So I would need to install the "official" drivers for the control panel?
[03:00] <herrkin> I did
[03:01] <herrkin> I used envyng
[03:01] <herrkin> I installed the fglrx from the ati website
[03:01] <theacolyte> sorry for the possible redundant question
[03:01] <sn9_> theacolyte: the control panel will download restricted drivers
[03:01] <tpocket> hi guys I got a question about installing hadry heron on a new computer
[03:01] <herrkin> also did some other stuff I cant remember..
[03:01] <cdm10> tpocket: ask away
[03:01] <sn9_> tpocket: yes, you should install it
[03:02] <theacolyte> sn9_: Ah, that's not exactly what I mean. I mean, if I download the NVIDIA drivers using the Ubuntu Restricted application, will it install the *NVIDIA* control panel
[03:02] <tpocket> well I have it on a bootable usb stick and a cd
[03:02] <tpocket> i couldn't figure out how to get it to install off the stick
[03:02] <tech0007> tpocket: use the CD then
[03:02] <tpocket> but on the cd when I chose install it took me to this busybox thing
[03:03] <sn9_> herrkin: radeon x800 should "just work" out-of-the-box on hardy
[03:03] <tech0007> tpocket: did u try the liveCD?
[03:03] <snarkster> tpocket: unsupported video card.
[03:03] <herrkin> I install fglrx drivers and then the monitor blacks out
[03:03] <tpocket> :/
[03:03] <sn9_> herrkin: do NOT use fglrx
[03:03] <snarkster> herrkin unsupported resolution
[03:03] <herrkin> I have to enter recovery mode to configure vesa drivrs
[03:03] <noobalert> say what was the name of that old xwindows program with the santa and the snow
[03:03] <herrkin> how I configure max resolution?
[03:04] <sn9_> herrkin: just leave things as they are in a fresh install -- no fglrx and no vesa
[03:04] <noobalert> oh
[03:04] <noobalert> xsnow
[03:04] <snarkster> noobalert: snow i think.. or xsnow
[03:04] <noobalert> i answered my own question
[03:04] <herrkin> I did it
[03:04] <herrkin> same
[03:04] <tpocket> ... but on the usb stick it runs, the problem is that when I try to install it I only see the usb stick
[03:04] <herrkin> I installed ubuntu, then it asked me to install the driver, I acepted.. then it happens
[03:05] <herrkin> the monitor blacks out at log in screen
[03:05] <OzFalcon> Are there any flat file system solutions for linux?
[03:05] <enderbean> Is there a firewall installed in Ubuntu(Gutsy 7.1) by default, and if so how do I configure it?
[03:05] <noobalert> ok next question i am putting this putter in my room to run music, what is the best way to connect to it ssh? and what mp3 player works thru console
[03:05] <sn9_> herrkin: it wouldn't have asked out of the blue
[03:05] <ASULutzy> herrkin: I hope this doesn't have anything to do with it, but how much RAM do you have and are you using 64 bit?
[03:06] <snarkster> noobalert mp321 or mp123 works from console
[03:06] <Starnestommy> enderbean: iptables is installed by default.  firestarter is commonly used to control it
[03:06] <sn9_> herrkin: for the x800, you should leave the restricted driver DISabled
[03:06] <hlfshell> !run-level
[03:06] <herrkin> 2gb, yes I have installed both version and its same in both cases
[03:06] <hlfshell> !run level
[03:06] <snarkster> noobalert I use ssh from my sidekick all the time to my laptop to start music
[03:06] <noobalert> snark is that the best way to run a media server?
[03:06] <hlfshell> !rc
[03:06] <ASULutzy> herrkin, sn9_: Are the Radeon drivers best for x800?
[03:06] <sn9_> ASULutzy: yes
[03:06] <snarkster> noobalert not at all.. but you said console.
[03:06] <jpratt> i need help setting up virtual box i installed the package and added myself to vbox users or what ever in groups now what do i do
[03:07] <hi_> I'm havin trouble upgrading to gutsy from feisty
[03:07] <hlfshell> !runlevel
[03:07] <ASULutzy> jpratt: What error do you get when you try and run it?
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> hi_: yeah, you'll have a lot of trouble w/ that
[03:07] <snarkster> noobalert is you want media pc then install mythtv.
[03:07] <herrkin> I dont know, i use vesa drivers because it doesnt open if I install some ati drivers
[03:07] <sn9_> jpratt: log out and back in
[03:07] <noobalert> snark whats the best way, this is a p2 300mhz so i am amazed it is working
[03:07] <enderbean> Starnestommy: thanks.
[03:07] <ASULutzy> jpratt: You may still have to do sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-modules-`uname -r`
[03:07] <jetroid> !run-level | hlfshell
[03:07] <snarkster> noobalert: pm me so we can talk about it
[03:07] <hi_> It gives different errors each time lol
[03:08] <herrkin> I have installed radeon, ati and fglrx, none worked
[03:08] <thomas__> the next ubuntu release will have ati drivers embedded in the kernel, yes?
[03:08] <snarkster> herrkin maybe you have intel
[03:08] <herrkin> I do
[03:08] <v64> I have the latest Ubuntu, Firefox, and Flash, and when I go to Yahoo Live (live.yahoo.com), which is basically a Flash webcam app, the video comes in fine, but the voices sound like they're 2 octaves too low, as if they're slowed down? I couldn't find anything on Google, has this happened to anyone?
[03:08] <koolranch> Hey, cdm10? I've downloaded a bin file for the emusic player to my desktop and I tried running the same command you suggested for installing java, but it doesn't work
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> thomas__: that would be nice
[03:08] <sn9_> thomas__: no
[03:08] <herrkin> I have a pentium d 3.2ghz
[03:08] <koolranch> do you have any idea what I can do to make it install?
[03:08] <v64> it works fine for me on my Mac
[03:08] <hi_> MAybe a noob question, but who,what is ubottu?
[03:08] <v64> so I know it's not a problem with the feed
[03:09] <ASULutzy> koolranch: did you chmod +x it?
[03:09] <cdm10> koolranch: that command is only for installing packages from the Ubuntu software repositories. To install a file like a .bin file, run < sudo sh Desktop/whatever-it's-called.bin >
[03:09] <ASULutzy> hi_: He's the local bot :)
[03:09] <sn9_> v64: probably a soundcard issue
[03:09] <snarkster> hi_ ubottu is a robot to get answeres from
[03:09] <koolranch> ok
[03:09] <v64> I don't have any problems with the sound in my other flash apps, so I wasn't sure
[03:09] <koolranch> what does chomod +x do, ASUlutzy?
[03:09] <herrkin> my pc is pentiumd 3.2ghz, 2gb ram ati x800 video card
[03:09] <hi_> Oh, thanks... Any idea how i can build or generate bots like this? Is this possible?
[03:10] <ASULutzy> koolranch: you can either do chmod +x the file && /the/file/here, or you can just do sudo sh /the/path/to/thebin
[03:10] <ASULutzy> chmod +x makes a file executable
[03:10] <herrkin> everything goes fine but ati drivers
[03:10] <koolranch> ah, cool
[03:10] <koolranch> thanks
[03:10] <cthulinux> hey can someone help with a problem? i just patched up to 7.10 and now when my gui loads the images are all wavey, and if i can accually loging (can't see the prompts) the screen goes normal untill my gui fully loads then is all waves incluing the wallpaper, any clues as to the cause, fix?
[03:10] <snarkster> hi_ almost anyhting is possible but i have no clue about how to do it
[03:11] <Caponetta> hi
[03:11] <Caponetta> Hey
[03:11] <hi_> Ok, i'm like really new to IRC, can i create my own channels on different servers?
[03:11] <koolranch> hey cdm10, I got a syntax error when I tried that command
[03:11] <Caponetta> Thats nto very ubuntu related
[03:12] <ASULutzy> hi_: Just /join #randomChannelNameHere and if it's an empty server it will create it for you, but that's not ubuntu related so, here isn't really the spot for help on IRC related things
[03:12] <ASULutzy> hi_: Empty channel that is
[03:12] <nickr--> can someone help :[] i cant get out of VIM
[03:12] <herrkin> do you know any posible causes of this problem?
[03:12] <Caponetta> nickr
[03:12] <nickr--> yeah
[03:12] <Caponetta> are you runnign ubuntu?
[03:12] <monostone> nickr-- : hit <ESC> then :q
[03:12] <tpocket> so is busy box what comes up when i basically crash my installation
[03:12] <nickr--> oh
[03:13] <cthulinux> anyone ?!?  can someone help with a problem? i just patched up to 7.10 and now when my gui loads the images are all wavey, and if i can accually loging (can't see the prompts) the screen goes normal untill my gui fully loads then is all waves incluing the wallpaper, any clues as to the cause, fix?
[03:13] <ASULutzy> nickr--: escape, then :q to quit, or :wq to write changes then quit
[03:13] <nickr--> didnt know i had to press ESC first
[03:13] <nickr--> thanks
[03:13] <hi_> OK, cool! THanks..One last question: Which is the channel wer i can get help on IRC? Thanks
[03:13] <nickr--> :}
[03:13] <amenado> tpocket-> depends on what stage of the install process
[03:13] <Painless> cthulinux: possibly a refresh rate problem with your monitor?
[03:13] <wbmj> chtulinux: It sounds like you need to lower your color depth
[03:13] <sn9_> hi_: try #freenode
[03:13] <Caponetta> i think so
[03:13] <cdm10> koolranch: can you paste the error to http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org and send me the URL?
[03:13] <tpocket> it happens whenever I try to install off the cd of check the cd for errors
[03:13] <LLMP_> dies anyone know how i could set up senors for my laptop
[03:14] <LLMP_> to see if it is burning up
[03:14] <cdm10> koolranch: to copy text from the Terminal, use ctrl-shift-C
[03:14] <hi_> THanks sn9 and others. Bye
[03:14] <koolranch> yeah, I'll do that
[03:14] <koolranch> thanks
[03:14] <cthulinux> k i will try that
[03:14] <Caponetta> llmp, your cpu shoudl have that built in. Look for programs like speedfan. (xif that works for linux)
[03:14] <cdm10> ﻿LLMP_: install the package lm_sensors, and run sensors-detect
[03:14] <ASULutzy> LLMP_: There are different things you can use, specifically for hard drives you can do sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[03:14] <Caponetta> ty cdm :P
[03:14] <snarkster> thoiught xif was a viewer
[03:15] <herrkin> could anybody please help me solve my ati card problem?
[03:15] <sn9_> LLMP_: there is also sensors-applet
[03:15] <Caponetta> i ment to type IF not xif lol
[03:15] <Kcaj> OH CRAP!
[03:15] <LLMP_> i want it on my panel
[03:15] <snarkster> ah
[03:15] <Kcaj> Dudes help!! I got no top or bottom ;_; I can't starts or stops anything
[03:15] <LLMP_> top of my panel
[03:15] <snarkster> crap i see no crap here
[03:15] <wbmj> herrkin: what's the problem?
[03:15] <Kcaj> I had to type in irc from the terminal
[03:15] <sn9_> LLMP_: then you want sensors-applet
[03:15] <LLMP_> how do u do that
[03:15] <Caponetta> right click on desktop
[03:15] <LLMP_> ok
[03:15] <LLMP_> i already got it
[03:15] <Caponetta> go to properties
[03:15] <cdm10> LLMP_: install sensors-applet, it'll let you view your sensors added through lm_sensors on your applet.
[03:15] <koolranch> where do you want me to paste it on that site, cdm10?
[03:15] <herrkin> I cant make the driver to work
[03:15] <koolranch> the message board?
[03:16] <Kcaj> There is no properties there. I think you are thinking of Windows
[03:16] <cdm10> koolranch: hmm, that pastebin is gone, hold on a sec
[03:16] <LLMP_> not working
[03:16] <koolranch> I could just paste it here
[03:16] <sn9_> LLMP_: right-click the panel, and add it, if it's installed
[03:16] <cdm10> !paste | koolranch
[03:16] <koolranch> it's only a few words
[03:16] <wbmj> herrkin: Card model and driver please
[03:16] <Caponetta> kcaj ---> right click on your desktop and try to access the visual propertied, make sure there both checked off
[03:16] <cdm10> koolranch: there, follow ubottu's link
[03:16] <herrkin> please if anybody wanna help me tell me in private msg because I cant read everything its just so fast
[03:16] <koolranch> thanks
[03:16] <joshual> anyone know of a gtk theme that has exact progress bars as the ubuntu boot splash? and colors?
[03:16] <sn9_> wbmj: herrkin has a radeon x800
[03:16] <monostone> i need someone with experience setting up and configuring mail servers. Any recommended channels?
[03:17] <Kcaj> There is no such things
[03:17] <herrkin> yes
[03:17] <Caponetta> you dont have it enables
[03:17] <herrkin> thank you
[03:17] <snarkster> ok im out for abit
[03:17] <Caponetta> if you reboot si ti therE?
[03:17] <koolranch> ok, here's the link cdm10:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/26355/
[03:17] <snarkster> later gators
[03:17] <Caponetta> bye snark  take care
[03:17] <thomas__> Where in the xorg.conf file should the line "Driver "fglrx" " bet set to?
[03:18] <monostone> in the device section thomas
[03:18] <vaportrailnew123> whats the coolest thing u can get off synaptic?
[03:18] <Kcaj> I just rebooted and that is when I had no top or bottom
[03:18] <herrkin> yes
[03:18] <Kcaj> vapor: compiz fusion
[03:18] <Kcaj> and the plugins, and emerald
[03:18] <herrkin> I tried fglrx
[03:18] <herrkin> radeon
[03:18] <herrkin> ati
[03:18] <Caponetta> but is it responsive?
[03:18] <plik> Kcaj: monostone check the support pages of whatever MTA  or server component you're using eg postfix, sendmail courier, dovecot or whatever
[03:18] <ralph> new to ubuntu where i can look for some good setup information
[03:18] <thomas__> just device right? not input or other
[03:18] <herrkin> only works on vesa
[03:18] <ASULutzy> !enter | herrkin
[03:18] <cdm10> koolranch: that's weird, it looks like there's a problem with the download... try this: sudo chmod +x Desktop/emusicdlm-linux-installer.bin && Desktop﻿/emusicdlm-linux-installer.bin
[03:18] <plik> bah, not Kcaj  just monostone
[03:18] <monostone> thanks plik
[03:18] <vaportrailnew123> whats compiz fusion do
[03:18] <Kcaj> Responsive? Yeah I can get stuff and terminal obviously.... btw I'm not using any server component or anything, lol
[03:19] <koolranch> ok
[03:19] <sn9_> vaportrailnew123: think vista aero
[03:19] <Kcaj> Compiz Fusion is the tightest thing to ever happen to LInux, makes your desktop 3D
[03:19] <vaportrailnew123> O.o
[03:19] <noobalert>  mysql start
[03:19] <noobalert> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) what the heck does this mean
[03:19] <Kcaj> A huge cube you can rotate and stuff, amazing effects, it is like the year 2050
[03:19] <vaportrailnew123> sounds sexy... and high req...
[03:19] <monostone> compiz is eye-candy basically
[03:19] <plik> Kcaj: that wasn;t meant for you
[03:19] <noobalert> are my ports blocked
[03:19] <Kcaj> It will make Windows users die in their pants.
[03:19] <noobalert> pipes clogged
[03:19] <ralph> i have the same problems  as askcaj
[03:19] <xITz> ok quick question, /etc/passwd got deleted, only way to save the world is from a rescuecd right?
[03:19] <Kcaj> :(
[03:19] <vaportrailnew123> lets see if i can get it without lagging to indo-china...
[03:19] <LLMP_> is there a way to put i ton my wallpaper
[03:19] <LLMP_> but senors and all that on my wallpaper
[03:20] <Kcaj> Dude I tried to update using the new packages with synaptics, and it failed somewhere, complete system lockup.
[03:20] <LLMP_> becasue it wont fit on my panel
[03:20] <Kcaj> Reboot = no top or bottom, can't start or stop anything, can't do ANYTHING at all, it seriously sucks.
[03:20] <Flannel> xITz: Recovery console/Single user mode
[03:20] <pdg1> Drk_Guy: it worked perfectly... turns out i didn't need to compile because gXiso is made with python
[03:20] <thomas__> command to Remove the package xserver-xgl. ??!?
[03:20] <Jman> quick question
[03:20] <Caponetta> press power button shoudl bring up the power prompt window, press alt + s and reboot
[03:20] <monostone> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[03:20] <Drk_Guy> pdg1, I'm happy to have helped you
[03:20] <tpocket> all right let me approach this in another way... When I load up ubuntu on a memory stick and try to install I only get the memory stick when it scans devices
[03:20] <Kcaj> there is no kind of ummm, like terminal command to type to make "explorer" of Lunix relaunch? Cuz it is just like Windows with Explorer stops running... no task bar, nothing
[03:20] <tpocket> does that mean my HDD isn't loading?
[03:20] <Kcaj> Impossible to uses the system
[03:20] <Jordan_U> xITz: Have you rebooted since deleting it ( if not DO NOT )
[03:21] <monostone> to remove config files as well : sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xgl
[03:21] <xITz> lol no
[03:21] <Jman> how do i enable compiz on a fresh install of ubuntu when i see that compiz is already installed in sypat i want the cube
[03:21] <xITz> i know, it completely disabled all users
[03:21] <vaportrailnew123> how do i enable compiz fusion? it seems i already have it...
[03:21] <Kcaj> Yo uget the compiz icon to manage from synaptics
[03:21] <xITz> root is dead
[03:21] <Jordan_U> xITz: Do you still have a root shell open?
[03:21] <xITz> yeah
[03:21] <Kcaj> I have a shell open, I need my task bar back :(
[03:21] <Jman> xitz
[03:21] <koolranch> awesome, it's working cdm10
[03:21] <Jman> whats the download?
[03:21] <Kcaj> Another user here has my same problem... any ideas?
[03:22] <sn9_> tpocket: do you have an older sata controller, perchance?
[03:22] <xITz> something really odd happened when i was installed plone
[03:22] <monostone> system->preferences->appearance->visual effects
[03:22] <koolranch> what is a typical place to save a file like this on Ubuntu?
[03:22] <MariachiAC> How to instaill .deb files, but from i386 arkitecture on x8664 systems?
[03:22] <Jordan_U> xITz: Do you get any output from "lsof | grep /etc/passwd" as root?
[03:22] <pdg1> Drk_Guy: but i'm wondering how I could get the .py file to be listed in the applications list... or something
[03:22] <xITz> no
[03:22] <xITz> it says no root user
[03:22] <tpocket> this is a brand new computer... offa a newer Asus motherboard
[03:22] <Jordan_U> xITz: What do you mean, what is the exact error?
[03:22] <Jman> whats the installer for rpm?
[03:22] <Drk_Guy> pdg1, Alt+F2, then alacarte, then, create a launcher where you would like it to be ;)
[03:22] <sn9_> tpocket: which motherboard chipset?
[03:22] <MariachiAC> .deb
[03:22] <Jman> whats it called from sypnat
[03:23] <Drk_Guy> !alien | Jman
[03:23] <vaportrailnew123> after i turn on extra visual effects, do i restart?
[03:23] <Jman> !alien
[03:23] <Jordan_U> xITz: I mean try running that command in the root shell you already have open
[03:23] <sn9_> tpocket: intel? nvidia?
[03:23] <tpocket> sn9_: the asus P5qe
[03:23] <noobalert> can someone help, i was install mythtv, it asked for mysql install about half way installed it said failed, i try mysql start and i get ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)     what do i do
[03:23] <xITz> yeah, i tried, its all screwy
[03:23] <xITz> i have no access to anything
[03:23] <sn9_> tpocket: does that have nvidia?
[03:23] <Jordan_U> xITz: What error did you get if any from trying to run that command?
[03:23] <Kcaj> I can't do anything, seriously... like I have no kind of "task bar"
[03:23] <vaportrailnew123> so how do i turn on comppiz fusion?
[03:24] <tpocket> yep
[03:24] <pdg1> Drk_Guy: that's fantastic... but I feel guilty being spoon fed everything... I'll try looking on google a little harder next time
[03:24] <Kcaj> vapor: I told you ,get the compiz icon from synaptics
[03:24] <Jordan_U> Kcaj: You can start programs with alt + F2
[03:24] <Kcaj> type in "compiz" and select all compiz packages you can besides the -dev ones
[03:24] <xITz> actually, its not work the trouble, im going to just backup the stuff i need with a live cd then wipe it out and clean install
[03:24] <vaportrailnew123> its called comiz icon?
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> vaportrailnew123: system/admin/appearance/visual effects tab.. set it to extra
[03:24] <vaportrailnew123> k
[03:24] <Kcaj> alt+f2 does nothing for me
[03:24] <Jordan_U> xITz: If anything still has the file open recovering it is trivial
[03:25] <sn9_> tpocket: nvidia can be a bit flakey, but if it were any other chipset, i'd say go to the bios and switch to AHCI mode
[03:25] <Drk_Guy> Dont worry pdg1, i'm looking forward to help the community
[03:25] <xxploit> vaportrailnew123, install package fusion-icon and compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:25] <Kcaj> Does this mean I mean, like what the heck happened to my system? ;_; no alt+f2 and no taskbar.
[03:25] <MariachiAC> I am not sure if someone answered my question. The think is I'm trying to install a synthesizer for speech since I'm blind.
[03:25] <MariachiAC> It woudl be better in private.
[03:25] <plik> Kcaj: did you do something to make it disappear, or did it just boot and never show?
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> wouldn't it be better to see if he can set his appearnce options to Extra first?.. because if he has ATI, and even some intel chipsets, he's not gonna get compiz to work, so no reason to install all that.
[03:26] <ralph> never show
[03:26] <LLMP_> does anyone know how i could get senors and all thaton my wallpaper
[03:26] <Jman> kcal: download this compizconfig-settings-manager package
[03:26] <drash> LLMP_: look into conky
[03:26] <djhash> IndyGunFreak: I have ATI on all of my 3 ubuntu installations and I have compiz easily installed
[03:26] <plik> conky was an awesome episode of Trailer PArk Boys
[03:27] <sn9_> IndyGunFreak: you mean it won't work on nvidia
[03:27] <Jman> kcaj did you donwload that
[03:27] <Jman> i believe thats what your looking for
[03:27] <tpocket> sn9_: im in the bios how do i do this AHCI stuff?
[03:27] <LLMP_> ok thanx
[03:27] <plik> Jman: he's long gone
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> djhash: on some of them, there's a lot of problems w/ ATI and compiz however... white screen, etc.. it can be made to work, but i've saw many reports here w/ limited success.
[03:27] <tpocket> sn9_: nm foun d it
[03:27] <kkathman> sn9_,  to follow up with you - seems that there was something very severely wrong with my iPod - its now completely dead in fact
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> sn9_: no, compiz typically works fine w/ nvidia..
[03:27] <sn9_> tpocket: it should be in one of the pages; just look around for "IDE Mode"
[03:27] <vaportrailnew123> anyone know how to configure an intel onboard videocard?
[03:27] <Jman> quick question
[03:28] <Jman> how do i add windows to my cube?
[03:28] <sn9_> kkathman: toldya
[03:28] <Jman> i have windows as a second oS
[03:28]  * IndyGunFreak ..cough cough.
[03:28] <sn9_> IndyGunFreak: not out-of-the-box
[03:28] <kkathman> sn9_,  yeah when I put the external power on it. the display died and hasnt come back
[03:28] <djhash> IndyGunFreak:  i'm aware of all the reports.. which confuses me since the only problem I am having or ever have is that the svideo out on my laptop is a little wacky..
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> sn9_: i guess thats a matter of opinion then, i've got several boxes running nvidia devices, and they all run compiz "out of the box"
[03:29] <LLMP_> know how do i run it
[03:29] <Jman> Windows with ubuntu howto?
[03:29] <hannibal80_> руские есть ?
[03:29] <wbmj> Jman: add desktops to your switch...this will add windows to your cube
[03:29] <koolranch> hi everyone, how to a change the permission settings for /usr/local/bin?
[03:29] <xITz> jman, partition
[03:29] <Jman> thank you
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> !ru | hannibal80_
[03:29] <Jman> it is partioned
[03:29] <Jman> i have 2 os
[03:29] <vaportrailnew123> ok, installed the icon, now what
[03:29] <sn9_> IndyGunFreak: not possible; nvidia-glx is not installed by default
[03:29] <cthulinux> hey can someone help with a problem? i just patched up to 7.10 and now when my gui loads the images are all wavey, and if i can accually loging (can't see the prompts) the screen goes normal untill my gui fully loads then is all waves incluing the wallpaper, any clues as to the cause, fix? i am a newb with little skill
[03:30] <plik> koolranch: same as for anything else :  chmod
[03:30] <koolranch> plik, so I just chmod /usr/local/bin?
[03:30] <drash> LLMP_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205865 for an overview and all kinds of usefull configuration tips for conky
[03:30] <LLMP_> thanx
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> sn9_: all i can tell you, is i just enable the restricted driver, and they work just fine w/ compiz.
[03:30] <djhash> Jman: what do you mean by windows in your cube?!
[03:30] <plik> koolranch: you probably need to read the man page first and understand what you're doing
[03:30] <Guiri> Hi. I have a package that never configures sun-java6-doc. But I can't seem to remove it so it doesn't do the dpkg config error whenever I install something
[03:30] <Guiri> how do I get rid of it?
[03:30] <sn9_> IndyGunFreak: ah, so you did have to manually add the restricted driver...
[03:30] <Jman> windows xp as a window in ubuntu
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> sn9_: no.. its usually enalbed after the install
[03:31] <koolranch> what I'm trying to do is install a program in that directory
[03:31] <koolranch> but I don't have write permission
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> thats what i'ms aying, as long as the driver is enabled, it works fine, "out of the box".
[03:31] <sn9_> IndyGunFreak: not by default, it isn't
[03:31] <djhash> Jman: you can try vmware
[03:31] <plik> koolranch: sudo mv
[03:31] <djhash> !vmware
[03:31] <Kcaj> I has corroupted packages
[03:31] <Kcaj> hw fix??
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> sn9_: ok, whatever
[03:31] <cthulinux> hey can someone help with a problem? i just patched up to 7.10 and now when my gui loads the images are all wavey, and if i can accually loging (can't see the prompts) the screen goes normal untill my gui fully loads then is all waves incluing the wallpaper, any clues as to the cause, fix? please?
[03:31] <koolranch> what does sudo mv do?
[03:31] <Kcaj>  was installing updated and system died, now I have no top or bottom bar in gnome, and can't get them back
[03:31] <sn9_> koolranch: move/rename
[03:32] <plik> gives you permission to move it there
[03:32] <Guiri> !dpkg
[03:32] <Guiri> hmm that doesn't help
[03:32] <Kcaj> some guy told me to press alt+f2, lol took me out of the system entirely and couldn't get back to gnome
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> koolranch: doesn't really doa nything less you put some more stuff after it
[03:32] <Kcaj> I did dpkg but it said it couldn't keep running, was failed
[03:32] <koolranch> I haven't installed the file yet
[03:32] <SeveredCross> Kcaj: That's weird, Alt-F2 should've given you the "Run Application" prompt.
[03:32] <koolranch> so I don't have anything to put after the sudo mv command
[03:32] <SeveredCross> Ctrl-Alt-F2 should bring you to a VT (virtual terminal) which is probably where you got.
[03:32] <Kcaj> Yeah
[03:32] <djhash> cthulinux: you need to fix your resolution.. it probably went on too high.. or you have improper refresh rate
[03:32] <Kcaj> I couldn't switch back after
[03:33] <Billll> Flash Media Encoder 2.5 <--- this supported by ubuntu? If not what type of flash encoders can I get for ubuntu?
[03:33] <VersionZero> I just started using ubuntu a few days ago and I love it
[03:33] <Kcaj> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a new terminal, without switching out of gnome?
[03:33] <cthulinux> okay i can get to terminal, how to i do it from there?
[03:33] <Kcaj> I need further support for dpkg to fix brokenness
[03:33] <Kcaj> I tried to fix from recovery mode
[03:33] <Kcaj> and it said errors instead of just fixing it
[03:33] <sn9_> Kcaj: just keep pressing alt-left arrow until you get back to gnome
[03:33] <plik> koolranch: what are you trying to install, and more importantly HOW
[03:33] <cintaq> hi all
[03:33] <Kcaj> sn9: it brought me back, instead to a command terminal
[03:33] <Kcaj> when I alt+F1
[03:33] <cintaq> i'm from indonesia
[03:33] <Kcaj> It had a ton of text in it
[03:33] <koolranch> I'm trying to install the emusic player
[03:33] <koolranch> for emusic.com
[03:33] <koolranch> and I've used chmod to open the installer
[03:34] <cintaq> anybody know about setting HSF Modem Connexant on Ubuntu?
[03:34] <koolranch> and it's asking for a file destination, and I heard that it was good to put files in /usr/local/bin
[03:34] <djhash> !name
[03:34] <Kcaj> What is the command again to dpkg --fix some stuff?
[03:34] <sn9_> Kcaj: are you on a laptop or something?
[03:34] <cintaq> Hi
[03:34] <Kcaj> Yes, actually.
[03:34] <sn9_> cintaq: use dell's driver
[03:34] <drone_> hentai
[03:35] <djhash> !prefix | cthulinux
[03:35] <drash> koolranch: that's a good spot for anything 3d party yes
[03:35] <L815> anyone know why my front laptop fan seems to work during the live cd, but not when installed?
[03:35] <koolranch> Ubuntu won't let me put a file there though
[03:35] <sn9_> Kcaj: some laptop keyboards are weird about use of the Fn key
[03:35] <Billll> Flash Media Encoder 2.5 <--- this supported by ubuntu? If not what type of flash encoders can I get for ubuntu?
[03:35] <cthulinux> !djhash
[03:35] <plik> koolranch: sudo make install is probably what you want
[03:35] <djhash> cthulinux: <--- do this..
[03:35] <cthulinux> lol how?
[03:36] <plik> but you should follow any instructions that came with it...
[03:36] <djhash> cthulinux:  type dj{then tab}
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> !tab | cthulinux
[03:36] <plik> or learn about how to build and install software (google knows)
[03:36] <koolranch> plik, do I type the directory name after "sudo make install?"
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> djhash: if he tabs just dj, he gets someone else..lol
[03:36] <cthulinux> i am on pegin\
[03:36] <sn9_> koolranch: no
[03:36] <plik> no, the make file will have everything in it
[03:36] <drone_> p2p cleint
[03:36] <djhash> !pm | cthulinux
[03:37] <cthulinux> !pm djhash
[03:37] <Billll> hey i need a flash encoder so I can broadcast my fishtank live on justin.tv
[03:37] <Billll> =P
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:37] <cintaq> anybody using acer aspire 4920???
[03:37] <cintaq> please  share with me
[03:37] <sn9_> Billll: openlaszlo
[03:37] <djhash> ubottu needs a reboot!!!
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> ubottu:  is fine, its user malfunction
[03:38] <jm2k> looking at Hardware Drivers, i notice Atheros driver is supported by "no in use", how do i go on to use the wireless?
[03:38] <sn9_> jm2k: is it built-in?
[03:38] <jm2k> yes
[03:38] <jm2k> sn9_: yes
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> jm2k: dependson the wireless device, google your device and you'll probably find tons of info.
[03:38] <Billll> sn9_: thank you
[03:39] <sn9_> jm2k: there might be a switch or button for it
[03:39] <koolranch> that's still not working for me, plik
[03:39] <jm2k> IndyGunFreak: been to the edge of the web and back and no solution yet. tried with madwifi to reconfigure but nothing either.
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> jm2k: whats your wireless device
[03:39] <drash> koolranch: are you actually compiling that emusic player ? or is it a script ?
[03:39] <Xires> Xorg is constantly taking up over 90% CPU resources whenever a video is played using any video player..is this a known problem in Xorg??
[03:40] <noobalert> WHY CANT I RUN MYSQLD
[03:40] <noobalert> halp
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> noobalert: first thought is you're doing something wrong
[03:40] <noobalert> i have considered that
[03:40] <koolranch> I'm not sure
[03:40] <koolranch> here's the error message the installer gives me:  The directory /usr/local/bin is not writable by the current use
[03:40] <djhash> cthulinux: i'll make it simple for you #1: Keep sentences to one line. dont keep using enter #2: Use "nickname: your message" when speaking to someone specifically. this is a large channel and things can get lost. #3: Do not private message people without asking for permission. #4: dont ask a question to ask a question like "can someone help me?".. just ask the question u want help in. #5: we can all read lower case too...
[03:40] <noobalert> but its not working, thats the way you do it
[03:40] <jm2k> IndyGunFreak:  Atheros AR5212 802.11abg NIC
[03:40] <noobalert> money for nothing and my OS was free
[03:41] <sn9_> koolranch: sudo make install
[03:41] <koolranch> what do I type after that?
[03:41] <koolranch> just that?
[03:41] <Jman> how do i install rpm files
[03:41] <drash> koolranch: than you're not compiling, the command that was given about sudo make install won't do anything usefull for you
[03:41] <Jman> what package is needed
[03:41] <noobalert>  mysql start
[03:41] <noobalert> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[03:41] <noobalert> is the error
[03:41] <amenado> noobalert-> have you done a tutorial on mysql yet? if not, please do, many are available
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> jm2k: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:41] <koolranch> how do I make that directory writeable?
[03:41] <djhash> Jman: rpms are RedHat Linux packages.. you need .deb for ubuntu.
[03:41] <noobalert> well for me i dont even want a DB, i want mythtv and it wants to install mysql
[03:41] <jm2k> IndyGunFreak: 8.04
[03:42] <Jman> .deb package?
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> jm2k: did you look at the madwifi homepage?
[03:42] <jm2k> IndyGunFreak: yes
[03:42] <z662> can someone tell me where to find a good tutorial on setting up an irc server on ubuntu server 8.04, or what documentation to read???
[03:42] <djhash> Jman: .deb as is Debian.. which what ubuntu is based on.
[03:42] <sn9_> IndyGunFreak: jm2k has a very screwed up system where apt doesn't see the kernel
[03:42] <amenado> koolranch-> try to understand file permisions which includes directories
[03:42] <djhash> cthulinux: sorry for the delay.. you said you are in terminal?
[03:43] <cthulinux> yes
[03:43] <koolranch> I've tried to read up some on permissions, and I may just be misreading my information, but I've only found out how to change the permissions for files and not directories, amenado
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> jm2k: wellt hen i woudl address that first.
[03:43] <jm2k> sn9_: i wouldnt call it too "screwed up" ;)
[03:43] <Jman> hmm shouldnt it show up when i install to unpackage right away
[03:43] <amenado> noobalert-> well try to understand why you think mythtv needs a database..(to store movie channels?)
[03:43] <cthulinux> cannot seem to PM
[03:43] <sn9_> koolranch: it's the same
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> cthulinux: becase you're not registered
[03:43] <enderbean> I'm setting up a webapplication, how would you restrict its access to specific directories? Is there a way to set up permissions for a particular app/proccess?
[03:43] <cthulinux> that would do it
[03:43] <drash> koolranch: it is writeable already, but not for the regular user, i wouldn't mess with those permissions just to install an mp3player that's closed source (just my opinion) .. can't you download those from emusic and play them in a regular ubuntu supported player ?
[03:43] <Kcaj> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0115' near line 1:
[03:43] <Kcaj>  newline in field name `#padding'
[03:43] <Kcaj> That is my error, btw when running dpkg --configure -a
[03:44] <amenado> koolranch-> then continue on with your tutorial reading, you'd soon discovery about the permissions on directories
[03:44] <Kcaj> I have a feeling dpkg is permanently broken. Any suggestions?
[03:44] <Kcaj> I tried google for a while now, no help, even some things that helped other users
[03:44] <gianni_> mc
[03:44] <gianni_> close
[03:44] <amenado> Kcaj-> come again? dpkg is broken?
[03:44] <djhash> cthulinux: please scroll up.. i've sent you a paragraph of rules to go by in here.. please read it..
[03:44] <jm2k> IndyGunFreak: like i've addressed before, upgraded to Hardy while back, system+wireless okay, then 2 weeks ago it stopped working after doing a package update.
[03:44] <koolranch> why wouldn't you change the permission for that, drash?
[03:44] <Kcaj> Yes, dpkg is broken.
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> jm2k: really don't know to be truthful..
[03:45] <drone_> hi
[03:45] <drone_> hi
[03:45] <amenado> Kcaj-> on what grounds you make such claims?
[03:45] <Kcaj> I was updating and the machine completely died, now I am stuck with this... gnome has no kind of task bars, and synaptic wont start (obviously since dpkg is broken)
[03:45] <cthulinux> well thanks a bunch going back to windows kids
[03:45] <Kcaj> Look at what I just pasted, lol
[03:45] <sn9_> !hi | drone_
[03:45] <amenado> Kcaj-> did you do a man dpkg to look at the correct options?
[03:45] <ubunubi> is there an easy way add custom locations to the "places"(the one that lists all your filesystems currently mounted) menu in gnome?
[03:45] <ubunubi> menu
[03:45] <jm2k> IndyGunFreak: yea i know, its kool. i'll just keep asking.
[03:45] <Jman> just when i think i knew how to work ubuntu it hits me in the nuts again
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> well at least he's gone
[03:45] <Kcaj> dpkg --configure -a   is what it tells me to run.
[03:46] <djhash> you know i'm GLAD he's gone back to windows.. we don't like him using linux anyways.. can't even follow simple instructions.
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> jm2k: asking the same thing over and over, you're likely gonna get the same answer, over and over...
[03:46] <sn9_> !anyone | drone_
[03:46] <Jman> how do i install flash plugin from website right off the bat
[03:46] <amenado> Kcaj-> try the --reconfigure  instead of --configure
[03:46] <drash> koolranch: the whole concept of secure file systems is based on certain restrictions on permissions, if you decide to change those to be world writeable you open up a whole can of worms
[03:46] <gianni_> elinks
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> djhash: well, new users need to understand.. 1. use the package manager until you're comfortable w/ how things work, then move on to compiling, etc.
[03:47] <koolranch> drash, is there no way for me to make the directory writeable for me and not the world?
[03:47] <Kcaj> --reconfigure -a? Or just --reconfigure?
[03:47] <amenado> Kcaj actually its dpkg-reconfigure
[03:47] <theacolyte> So, if Emerald handles the titlebar theme, what handles the color for say, panels, menus, etc?
[03:47] <Kcaj> Regular gnome
[03:47] <theacolyte> so GDM?
[03:47] <djhash> IndyGunFreak: yeah i know.. but seriously.. i am impatient.. but their impatience superceeds mine... lol..
[03:47] <gianni_> quit
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:47] <Kcaj> lol dude
[03:48] <Kcaj> dpkg-reconfigure takes a package as an arguement
[03:48] <noobalert> amenado, it says i need to run mysql as root
[03:48] <Kcaj> It doesn't "reconfigure" dpkg.
[03:48] <noobalert> sudo isnt the same as root is it
[03:48] <noobalert> how do u root in ubuntu
[03:48] <Kcaj> noobalert: sudo mysql
[03:48] <noobalert> oh sudo IS root? ok
[03:48] <Kcaj> sudo = super user DO
[03:48] <Kcaj> sudo is "you" with your password checked... lol
[03:48] <noobalert> grr there is like 0 on google about this error
[03:48] <gerrard> yup, sudo [03:49] <Kcaj> Once done in a terminal though, shouldn't ask again
[03:49] <drash> koolranch: sure, but i thought you needed to install a player, i'm just not comfortable with a service that wants you to install a player for something as common as mp3, there's loads of open source players for that with ubuntu support
[03:49] <amenado> Kcaj  per man dkpg-reconfigure   you can  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[03:49] <noobalert> has anyone googled ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[03:49] <noobalert> its forums full of 0 answers
[03:50] <Jman> this is the most un user friendly os ive ever jumped into lolz
[03:50] <noobalert> even the mysql forum
[03:50] <Painless> noobalert: is mysqld started?  try: sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[03:50] <koolranch> I see
[03:50] <noobalert> same error by absolute path
[03:50]  * plik passes Jman an OpenBSD iso
[03:50] <amenado> Jman you ought to try mainframes :P
[03:50] <FuRom> Is there any programs for ubuntu that allow me to access websites like a cell phone would? I'm a web designer, and I'm trying to make a mobile phone compatible website for people to use. I saw MidBrowser in the synaptic package manager, and it doesn't really seem like what you'd expect from a cell phone browser.
[03:51] <Jman> i jst want to install flash player
[03:51] <Jman> lolz
[03:51] <noobalert> Painless, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start* Starting MySQL database server mysqld
[03:51] <djhash> Jman: go to adobe's website.. click on get flash player.. then install it..
[03:51] <Jman> but i have to download 20 different programs and go into terminal and execute this and that im feeling pretty dumb
[03:51] <Jman> yea i did that but it bring up default manager
[03:51] <Painless> noobalert: that was your problem... the daemon wasn't started
[03:51] <amenado> FuRom-> have you tried to google for WAP webrowsers  yet?
[03:51] <Jman> so therefore all its want me to do is extract it
[03:51] <noobalert> painless that ends in [Fail]
[03:51] <plik> Jman: go to youtube, click a video , click get plug-in, wait, restaer firefox
[03:52] <Painless> noobalert: error message?
[03:52] <djhash> Jman: what browser are you using?
[03:52] <plik> *restart
[03:52] <Jman> firefox
[03:52] <noobalert> no err by that path but only error when starting it by name ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[03:52] <noobalert> is it logging the error somewhere?
[03:52] <amenado> plik-> thats assuming he's got the latest firefox..i dont think that process works for older ones
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: are you using 64bit?
[03:52] <djhash> Jman: go here.. http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BUIGP
[03:52] <Jman> i just downloaded the flash plugin
[03:52] <Jman> i havent installed it
[03:52] <FuRom> amenado, umm, no I haven't. I'm a totally newbie with cell phone web browsing.
[03:52] <Jman> thats the issue im sorta having here
[03:53] <djhash> Jman: where did you download it from?
[03:53] <Jman> the website
[03:53] <Jman> /home/jman/Desktop/flash-plugin-9.0.124.0-release.i386.rpm
[03:53] <amenado> FuRom well you have plenty or reading to do, look around for WAP..or whatever the new name is for it
[03:53] <FuRom> amenado, in other words, I didn't even know what to google for except "cell phone web browser" which got me nothing
[03:53] <djhash> Jman: you got the wrong one
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: why are you downloading rpms?
[03:53] <Jman> im new as hell to ubuntu
[03:53] <FuRom> amenado, thanks, I'm already all over it
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: all the more reason you should be nstalling things the right way, as opposed to making it harder on yourself.
[03:54] <amenado> FuRom being a web designer, you ought to know  the lingo...:P
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: are you using 32bit or 64bit ubuntu
[03:54] <noobalert> painless no err by that path but only error when starting it by name ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) is it logging somewhere
[03:54] <nikonadictk> hey why can someone users not loginto my vsftpd server???
[03:54] <PorkSoda> Ok, any reason not to upgrade to 8.04 at present? :)
[03:54] <Jman> i think 32 bit
[03:54] <PorkSoda> I was putting it off for a while
[03:54] <Tourkneyyy> hello
[03:54] <Tourkneyyy> i have trouble with fluxubuntu's screen resolution option
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: then it should install just like Windows... go to youtube, add missing plugins, install, then restart firefox.
[03:55] <Jman> but when i go to install its just giving me the archive manager
[03:55] <Jman> and letting me extract
[03:55] <djhash> IndyGunFreak: thank you i completely forgot about that..
[03:55] <Jman> no installation
[03:55] <greeg> hi
[03:55] <djhash> Jman: FORGET about what you downloaded.. DELETE IT
[03:55] <Jman> ok
[03:55] <drash> PorkSoda: not really, unless you're running an exotic machine that needs bleeding edge packages
[03:55] <greeg> how do i move a picture in kolourpaint?
[03:55] <djhash> Jman: go to youtube..
[03:55] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: opena  terminal (Applications/Accessories/terminal) and type this w/o quotes.. "uname -a"   and paste the output here
[03:55] <nikonadictk> can someone please help me figure out why certain users canot log into my vsfptd server?
[03:55] <greeg> similar to the hand tool in mspaint.
[03:55] <IndyGunFreak> djhash: i bet youa  buffalo nickel he's using 64bit
[03:55] <Painless> noobalert: when you originally installed the mysql deb package, did you get any errors?
[03:55] <greeg> i want to shift the whole picture, some some of it falls off the stage.
[03:56] <djhash> IndyGunFreak: i'm with you
[03:56] <PorkSoda> drash, Cool, I'm going to go for it. :)
[03:56] <greeg> now if kolourpaint can't do this, than i must say this linux stuff is rather pathetic.
[03:56] <PorkSoda> Thanks
[03:56] <rsys> noobalert: do yo already start mysql server ?
[03:56] <Jman> yea it says select a version
[03:56] <Tourkneyyy> who wanna help me ?
[03:56] <Jman> for adobe flash
[03:56] <Painless> rsys: from what he's saying, the server startup is failing
[03:56] <noobalert> painless i was installing mythtv by aptget which started the mysql install
[03:56] <drash> PorkSoda: are you on gutsy right now or installing ubuntu the first time ?
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: select adobe flash player, don't choose gnash.
[03:56] <Painless> noobalert: ok, but did you see any errors?
[03:57] <nikonadictk> anyone wanna help me find out why some only SOME users can use vsftpd??? I think its a pretty straightforward questions? thnx in advance
[03:57] <PorkSoda> No, not first time. I"m on gutsy.
[03:57] <djhash> IndyGunFreak: crossing fingers...
[03:57] <noobalert> what is it alone apt-get mysqld?
[03:57] <MethodmanRDM> is there anyway to get natilaus to have the "open terminal here" command, like in xubuntu?
[03:57] <Jman> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[03:57] <MethodmanRDM> *like in thunar
[03:57] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: stop linking us to that, i don't care.
[03:57] <Painless> noobalert: 'apg-get install mysql-server'
[03:57] <Jman> sorry just showing you
[03:57] <Painless> whoops... 'apt-get'
[03:57] <PorkSoda> I heard on 8.04 having certain networking problems etc
[03:57] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: are you going to follow instructions or not?
[03:57] <drash> PorkSoda: in that case you shouldn't encounter any problems, quite the opposite, goodluck :)
[03:57] <Jman> yes
[03:58] <djhash> Jman: what's with the link?!
[03:58] <rsys> i got that kind of error when I try to connect to mysql server.
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: go to youtube.com and yous hould get a popup to install missing plug ins... click install.
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> djhash: when hes' clciking on a video, its telling him flash is not found, and it links to that site
[03:58] <nikonadictk> please
[03:58]  * PorkSoda holds his breath.
[03:58]  * PorkSoda upgrades*
[03:58] <PorkSoda> :]
[03:58] <Kcaj> OH MAN!
[03:58] <Jman> but you dont understand i dont!
[03:58] <gerrard> stuck..
[03:59] <Kcaj> I found a fix!!! :D I deleted everything in updates for dpkg, and then I had a problem with dpkg available, so I did a dpkg --clear-avail
[03:59] <noobalert> my boss paid nearly 14k for mssql entrp today, and i see why MYSQL is a pain
[03:59] <Kcaj> and now it is sooo working I think
[03:59] <amenado> !who | Jman
[03:59] <dr_Willis> I just install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package to get flash going..
[03:59] <Kcaj> I've moved so many companies from MSSQL to MySQL ;) haha
[03:59] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: then again, please listen... open a terminal.. (Applications/Accessories/Terminal), and type this w/o quotes. "uname -a" and paste the output here.. make sure there's a space before -
[03:59] <djhash> noobalert: I paid $0 for mysql.. i know why I'm never getting mssql
[03:59] <Jman> !tab
[03:59] <rsys> just open your teminal than type "/etc/init.d/mysqld status "
[04:00] <nikonadictk> lease can someone help me figure out why some user can only use vsftpd and others canot login.... please
[04:00] <Jman> ok
[04:00] <amenado> noobalert-> no time to hit the books on mssql if you want to impress your boss
[04:00] <Lunks> how's a quick way of seeing how much space is free on my partitions?
[04:00] <djhash> !patience
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> Lunks: fdisk -l   df maybe
[04:00] <amenado> noobalert-> now* its time to hit the books on mssql if you want to impress your boss
[04:00] <rsys> lunks, open terminal type " df -h"
[04:00] <Jman> Linux jman-desktop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Jun 18 14:43:41 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:00] <drash> Lunks: df
[04:00] <noobalert> books?
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: ok, you're using 32bit.
[04:01] <noobalert> im not doing the sql
[04:01] <noobalert> hell no we hire people for that
[04:01] <npope> You guys see Best Buy is selling Ubuntu now
[04:01] <Jman> im sorry i seem like a newb
[04:01] <amenado> noobalert-> there you go,
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: so now the question is, why can't you install flash, like 99% of other Linux users?
[04:01] <Jman> im tryin my ass off to work with this
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> Jman: you don't seem like one...
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> you are one
[04:01] <amenado> !who | Jman
[04:01] <fuln> #topic today
[04:02] <Jman> what is !tab
[04:02] <fuln> hai guys???
[04:02] <noobalert>  mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however:
[04:02] <noobalert>   Package mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet.
[04:02] <noobalert> dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
[04:02] <noobalert>  sounds easy enough, fail pending
[04:02] <Tourkneyyy> i am using fluxubuntu distro . when i lower the resolution under 1280X1043 then i need to slide mouse to see icons - (it thinks i have a 19 inch monitor - though its 17 )  -- the desktop can be seen "fit" on screen in only 1280 x 1024 resolution,  however i want to use 800 x 600 !  how will i set this ?
[04:02] <dr_Willis> !bot
[04:02] <djhash> Jman: if you just listen to us.. and DONT make assumptions.. you'll be done in 1 minute
[04:02] <sn9_> !tab | Jman
[04:02] <Shoopuf> Jman: I installed flash (in Gnome Ubuntu) by going to the "Add/Remove" option in the Applications menu, typing "flash" in the search, and installing the "Macromedia Flash plugin"
[04:03] <IndyGunFreak> lol, i'm sure that will work
[04:03] <nikonadictk> anyone wanna help me find out why some only SOME users can use vsftpd??? I think its a pretty straightforward questions? thnx in advance.. sorry to bother you guys agan
[04:03] <Tourkneyyy> 1280x 1043= 1280 x 1024
[04:03] <djhash> IndyGunFreak: i can't see how that could go wrong..
[04:03] <IndyGunFreak> djhash: hmm, i have nothing nice to say... so..
[04:03] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[04:03] <Tourkneyyy> am using fluxubuntu distro . when i lower the resolution under 1280X1043 then i need to slide mouse to see icons - (it thinks i have a 19 inch monitor - though its 17 )  -- the desktop can be seen "fit" on screen in only 1280 x 1024 resolution,  however i want to use 800 x 600 !  how will i set this ?
[04:03] <djhash> lol
[04:04] <Painless> noobalert: try a 'dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0'
[04:04] <amenado> noobalert-> i know you're having a hard time installing mythtv, have you tried any of the tutorials on how to install such on ubuntu?
[04:04] <IndyGunFreak> djhash: like i said, i'mc urious why he can't install Flash like everyone else..
[04:04] <Shoopuf> Jman: Did you try installing Flash via the way I mentioned above?
[04:04] <Jman> shootpuf: uea
[04:04] <conduit4sale> hi i have a broadcom bcm4813 and i cant get the wireless working.  the wireless card is detected by no networks are showing up
[04:04] <Jman> shoopuf: yea doing it now
[04:04] <Shoopuf> Jman: Also, have you installed all the latest updates from Update Manager?
[04:04] <conduit4sale> but*
[04:05] <sn9_> conduit4sale: i thought it was 4318
[04:05] <Shoopuf> Jman: OK
[04:05] <amenado> nikonadictk-> look for a vsftp  config file, also look for tutorials on how to install vsftp
[04:05] <Jman> shoopuf: um i only installed what came up when i first open up this os
[04:05] <conduit4sale> err yeah 4318
[04:05] <noobalert> dpkg messes up a lot i notice
[04:05] <sn9_> conduit4sale: you rebooted, right?
[04:05] <Tourkneyyy> am using fluxubuntu distro . when i lower the resolution under 1280X1024 then i need to slide mouse to see icons - (it thinks i have a 19 inch monitor - though its 17 )  -- the desktop can be seen "fit" on screen in only 1280 x 1024 resolution,  however i want to use 800 x 600 !  how will i set this ?
[04:05] <conduit4sale> sn9: yeah
[04:05] <noobalert> but it beats the bsd file system
[04:05] <Rudy> que onda
[04:05] <sn9_> conduit4sale: and the firmware was installed?
[04:05] <Painless> noobalert: did you try that command?
[04:05] <conduit4sale> sn9: i installed the fwcutter but it didnt work do i need to find some windows driver too?
[04:05] <nikonadictk> amenado I have been doing that, and I set in the config file for vsftpd to allow local users to login, and 2 of  my local users can but the rest cannot... I need the others to wrk too.... thnx for noticing me bud!
[04:06] <Leefmc> Question: Is there a way to update a computer via terminal? I want to upgrade and patch my remote comp, without logging into x
[04:06] <noobalert> painless, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.0 is broken or not fully installed
[04:06] <Guest94675> who speak spanish?
[04:06] <sn9_> conduit4sale: when it asked to fetch, did you say yes, or no?
[04:06] <Ahadiel> !es | Guest94675
[04:06] <conduit4sale> sn9: yes
[04:06] <Flannel> Leefmc: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:06] <djhash> Leefmc: yes... apt-get can do it all for you..
[04:06] <Tourkneyyy> i am using fluxubuntu distro . when i lower the resolution under 1280X1024 then i need to slide mouse to see icons - (it thinks i have a 19 inch monitor - though its 17 )  -- the desktop can be seen "fit" on screen in only 1280 x 1024 resolution,  however i want to use 800 x 600 !  how will i set this ?
[04:06] <Miesco> I put my SD card in my laptop, how do I access it?
[04:06] <Guest94675> como pueso abrirlo
[04:06] <Leefmc> Flannel: dist-upgrade is the actually installation of the patches?
[04:07] <conduit4sale> sn9: i tried ndiswrapper afterwards but it didnt work either.  should i remove that?
[04:07] <sn9_> conduit4sale: and you were connected to the internet at the time?
[04:07] <Flannel> Leefmc: not patches, but new versions of packages, yes.
[04:07] <Painless> noobalert: ok, try 'aptitude reinstall mysql-server-5.0'
[04:07] <Painless> noobalert: with 'sudo' in front
[04:07] <conduit4sale> sn9: i was connected to the internet through ethernet
[04:07] <BeepII> Ok, so I installed the wrong driver for my video card. now it's extremely unstable. . .
[04:07] <noobalert> i love some linux file names [=
[04:07] <BeepII> how do I get rid of it?
[04:07] <rsys> Leefmc, "sudo aptitude full-upgrade"
[04:07] <amenado> nikonadictk-> you meant anonymous users?
[04:07] <sn9_> conduit4sale: and the download failed?
[04:07] <Leefmc> Flannel: So if patches are released, how do you update them?
[04:07] <Leefmc> rsys: OO
[04:07] <conduit4sale> sn9: download worked.  networks didnt show up
[04:07] <Flannel> Leefmc: You mean like upstream patches?
[04:07] <plik> Leefmc: sudo aptitude update   first
[04:07] <noobalert> what is aptitude in relation to apt
[04:07] <Leefmc> plik: Yea
[04:08] <sn9_> conduit4sale: oh, i thought you said the firmware download failed
[04:08] <nikonadictk> amenado what do you mean? I disabled anonymouse users becaue I want all my users to authenticate themselves iwth their local accounts on the machine
[04:08] <Painless> noobalert: its a prettier front end
[04:08] <Leefmc> Flannel: Not sure, but simply patches to the OS, etc. (Not like an update to rhythmbox, which i dont even care about)
[04:08] <Flannel> noobalert: apt-get and aptitude are both frontends to apt, so is synaptic, adept, update-manager, etc
[04:08] <Painless> noobalert: like synaptic, but console based
[04:08] <sn9_> conduit4sale: are you sure the wifi isn't simply turned off?
[04:08] <conduit4sale> sn9: nah the dl worked im pretty sure the package was installed smoothly
[04:08] <Tourkneyyy> : i am using fluxubuntu distro . when i lower the resolution under 1280X1024 then i need to slide mouse to see icons - (it thinks i have a 19 inch monitor - though its 17 )  -- the desktop can be seen "fit" on screen in only 1280 x 1024 resolution,  however i want to use 800 x 600 !  how will i set this ?
[04:08] <amenado> nikonadictk-> paste in pastebin your vsftp  config file..lets see what we can shed
[04:08] <Flannel> Leefmc: I'm not sure what you're asking (and I'm not sure you do either).  Like, a new kernel? or what?
[04:09] <burner> speaking of update to rhythmbox... does anyone have a ppa with rhythmbox 0.11.6 debs?
[04:09] <Flannel> !repeat | Tourkneyyy
[04:09] <conduit4sale> sn9: i tried fn f2
[04:09] <sn9_> conduit4sale: does the light come on?
[04:09] <ShinjinAkage> Can someone help me install fable under wine. I followed directions in one of the posts on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=521185 and copied all the files from a windows instalation into my wine folder then exported the three registry files it said I needed. When I try to import them nothing happens and the program still wont run. Any suggestions?
[04:09] <Leefmc> Flannel: Basically any type of patch that is for ubuntu, not a specific program in ubuntu (rhythmbox for example)
[04:09] <conduit4sale> sn9 no
[04:09] <BeepII> ﻿Somebody know how to uninstall the openchrome driver?
[04:09] <Leefmc> Flannel: And yes, i am obviously confused hehe
[04:09] <Flannel> Leefmc: Ubuntu doesn't use a patch system, the repositories get new versions of packages, which you download and install
[04:10] <Shoopuf> ShinjinAkage: #winehq might be more suitable for your question.
[04:10] <Leefmc> Flannel: Well i consider those patches heh, but anyway, year
[04:10] <ShinjinAkage> Okay, thanks
[04:10] <Leefmc> yea*
[04:10] <sn9_> conduit4sale: some laptops need special acpi drivers for wifi to work by any method
[04:10] <Flannel> Leefmc: and those commands will do it for all packages installed on your system.  Which is easier for you than picking and choosing packages.  If you really just want a subset, you could manually pick and choose packages, but its easier to just update everything
[04:10] <trashguy> anyone have a problem with flash and no sound?
[04:11] <conduit4sale> sn9: what is that and where can i get it
[04:11] <codyt07> Hello, does anyone know how to improve sound quality on 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:11] <conduit4sale> sn9: also the wireless worked on xp prior to switching to ubuntu
[04:11] <BeepII> Should I just reformat or is there a better way?
[04:11] <sn9_> conduit4sale: different laptops need different ones
[04:11] <chalcedony> where are better chat clients than pidgin that will support yahoo?
[04:11] <Leefmc> Flannel: Oh i have no problem updating everything, i just didnt know if there was a difference between an update for "rhythmbox" and an update for .. ubuntu. Though i spose perhaps the confusion here is that there are no updates for "ubuntu" since ubuntu is just a collection of things?
[04:12] <drash> BeepII: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[04:12] <IndyGunFreak> chalcedony: i think there's one called gyachi, but i don't know if its better than pidgin
[04:12] <Flannel> Leefmc: Nope, kernels and other things all get updated in the same manner.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will take care of it for you
[04:12] <chalcedony> IndyGunFreak: they want me to compile my own pidgin upgrade. i think, given my abilites that would be a really bad idea.
[04:12] <Leefmc> Flannel: Gotcha, thanks. Sorry for the confusion
[04:12] <BeepII> Thanks Drash
[04:13] <IndyGunFreak> chalcedony: why do you need to compile pidgin?...
[04:13] <noobalert> painless, Reloading AppArmor profiles : done.
[04:13] <noobalert>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [fail]
[04:13] <noobalert> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[04:13] <noobalert> dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
[04:13] <noobalert>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:13] <noobalert> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
[04:13] <FloodBot2> noobalert: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <Flannel> Leefmc: no problem.
[04:13] <noobalert> oops
[04:13] <sn9_> conduit4sale: well, which one is it?
[04:13] <pist0l-fish> hi there. I am using Bluetooth Manager on my machine and for some reason am unable to do anything with my phone. Is this because the phone could be riddled with proprietary protocols? I have a Samsung with Telus (and Telus sure loves money)
[04:13] <rsys> noobalert, can you at the logfile what the cause of the error ?
[04:13] <Painless> noobalert: hmm
[04:13] <noobalert> painless it has tried recoving
[04:13] <zengxin> 怎么都是英文啊
[04:13] <noobalert> failed and now is doing something
[04:14] <chalcedony> : There are issues with ICQ - which are fixed in Pidgin 2.4.3 (If you compile from source, please uninstall your old version first.) || Use Pidgin 2.4.3 |
[04:14] <spoon_man> !cn | zengxin
[04:14] <noobalert> looks like starting over
[04:14] <zengxin> 没有讲国语的吗
[04:14] <Leefmc> Grr.
[04:14] <chalcedony> IndyGunFreak: mine isnt working .. guessing that's the upgrade
[04:14] <IndyGunFreak> chalcedony: compiling pidgin is really quite simple.
[04:14] <Leefmc> Apparently a [y/n]? Box means "Yes, No, or Nothing==Yes".
[04:14] <Painless> noobalert: anything in /var/log/aptitude ?
[04:15] <noobalert> it ended with done
[04:15] <sn9_> Leefmc: nothing == which ever one is capitalized
[04:15] <Leefmc> sn9_: Ah, thanks for the info
[04:15] <chalcedony> IndyGunFreak: hmm?
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> chalcedony: type this w/o quotes and i'll talk you through compiling pidgin.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[04:15] <Leefmc> sn9_: I didnt press the n key hard enough, and hit enter by accident, and just had apt-get tromp all over my custom compiles. Damnit heh
[04:16] <Flannel> Leefmc: you should put compiled software in /usr/local/
[04:16] <Jman> why can i not use Extra high graphic settings
[04:16] <Jman> i have a 512 ati radeon
[04:16] <Leefmc> Flannel: Why? I put it into my /home/.somecustomdir
[04:16] <Painless> chalcedony: not the chalcedony I knew from nixhelp, perchance?
[04:16] <sn9_> Jman: which one?
[04:16] <Flannel> Leefmc: Er... that'll work too.  But apt shouldn't touch that.
[04:16] <Leefmc> Flannel: Will that stop apt-get from ruining my work? heh, as it is it just deleted hours of my work heh
[04:17] <Flannel> Leefmc: What did it ruin?
[04:17] <Shoopuf> Jman: Did you already install your ATI drivers? I think it should prompt you to install it through "System Menu > Administration Menu > Hardware Drivers"
[04:17] <Leefmc> Flannel: ffmpeg
[04:17] <Jman> shoop nope i sure didnt yet
[04:17] <Flannel> Leefmc: ffmpeg was in your homedir?
[04:17] <Leefmc> Flannel: Yes
[04:17] <Shoopuf> Jman: Also which "settings" are you talking about? Where do you find these settings you want to change?
[04:17] <Jman> thank you shoop
[04:17] <red22> anyone know how to get firefox to play videos on tudou.com?
[04:17] <Leefmc> Flannel: I compiled it
[04:17] <Flannel> Leefmc: then apt-get shouldn't have touched it.
[04:17] <Jman> never mind shoop: i found it
[04:17] <Jman> thank you
[04:17] <theacolyte> what's a good place to find color themes for panels/menu's etc?
[04:17] <noobalert> painless, [REINSTALL] mysql-server-5.0
[04:17] <noobalert> [UNCONFIGURED] mysql-server
[04:17] <Leefmc> Flannel: perhaps it was just references, not sure. Either way its broken now heh
[04:17] <sn9_> Shoopuf: Apperance -> Desktop Effects
[04:18] <Painless> noobalert: ok, this is a long shot, but try doing 'sudo aptitude reinstall mysql-server'
[04:18] <Leefmc> Flannel: And i dont have the time to deal with it. I was told that "aptitude hold" would protect it, but it didnt. Argh
[04:18] <chalcedony> {-{-{-{-{-{-{-{{{{Painless*Painless*Painless}}}-}-}-}-}-}-}
[04:18] <Flannel> Leefmc: If you've changed symlinks, you may have to resymlink them, yes.
[04:18] <Painless> chalcedony: :) ltns
[04:18] <Kcaj> I had a process that will not kill (synaptic). I can't see it.
[04:18] <sn9_> conduit4sale: well, which one is it?
[04:18] <Jman> one more question and ill stop pestering you experts lolz, how to i bring windows xp with is on another side of my harddrive into ubuntu interface
[04:18] <Kcaj> How to kill it? I have to reinstall ubuntu-desktop and need to kill synaptic, but it just will not die
[04:18] <nikon> anyone wanna help me find out why some only SOME users can use vsftpd??? I think its a pretty straightforward questions? thnx in advance
[04:18] <coolasjon> how can I add higher/more screen resolutions in Hardy? Is 640x480 the best I can get?
[04:18] <chalcedony> WONDERFUL to see you!!
[04:18] <Shoopuf> What's the package called to manually adjust the graphical settings ("Advanced Desktop Effect Settings" but don't know the package name)
[04:18] <mneptok> nikon: sudo killall synaptic
[04:18] <__yy> Kcaj: do sudo killall synaptic
[04:19] <Kcaj> Is there an easy way, actually, to umm just reset gnome to default settings?
[04:19] <sn9_> Shoopuf: simple-ccsm
[04:19] <drash> theacolyte: www.gnome-look.org is one place for themes and wallpaers etc.
[04:19] <SeveredCross> Kcaj: rm -rf ~/.config/
[04:19] <wuxia> is there a program i can run to set the transparency level ofther windows?
[04:19] <Kcaj> True, then restart?
[04:19] <Shoopuf> sn9_: thanks
[04:19] <SeveredCross> And probably ~/.gnome/ and ~/.gnome2/
[04:19] <nikon> mneptok ??
[04:19] <Painless> chalcedony: havent seen you on nixhelp for a long time
[04:19] <Jman> where do i learn these terminal commands
[04:19] <noobalert> painless, is it at all possible i am behind a firewall from hell, i cannot connect anything localhost
[04:19] <SeveredCross> Kcaj: Actually, probably don't need to remove all of ~/.config/
[04:19] <coolasjon> ﻿how can I add higher/more screen resolutions in Hardy? Is 640x480 the best I can get? please help
[04:19] <SeveredCross> Kcaj: Start by removing ~/.gnome/ and ~/.gnome2/ ~/.gnome2-private/
[04:19] <joshman_newb> help i need help with ubuntu mbr
[04:19] <Painless> noobalert: I dont think thats the problem, something is going wrong in the package installation
[04:19] <mneptok> nikon: sorry, wrong nick
[04:19] <wuxia> i'm not running compiz -- is there somether program i can run to set how dimmed out windows appear? (i don'teed transparency; just for certain windows to be dimmed out)
[04:20] <coolasjon> ﻿how can I add higher/more screen resolutions in Hardy? Is 640x480 the best I can get?
[04:20] <chalcedony> Painless: i went there a fwe times but didn't see friends
[04:20] <joshman_newb> i made a mistake of installing windows
[04:20] <chalcedony> i'll go back :)
[04:20] <joshman_newb> i think i corrupted the ubuntu mbr
[04:20] <Kcaj> I removed gnome, gnome 2 and config, now getting ridda gnome2-pricate
[04:20] <Leefmc> Flannel: Im still confused though, why didnt the hold work? Why did apt-get stomp all over my work?
[04:20] <joshman_newb> can anybody help me to restore ubuntu mbr?
[04:20] <sn9_> coolasjon: should be autodetected
[04:20] <mneptok> nikon: in your case, firts question is "why an FTPd?"
[04:20] <Kcaj> NoNow what, ? :D
[04:20] <Painless> chalcedony: it's been quiet lately, simon (morner) succombed to cancer which had a quietning effect :(
[04:20] <osmosis> how come there is no package available for Enemy Territory Quake Wars ?
[04:20] <Leefmc> Flannel: I understand it wanted to make my system match the repo, but i specifically told it not to heh.
 i'm not running compiz < < 'compiz' LOL
[04:20] <mneptok> nikon: FTP doing something for you that SFTP can't?
[04:20] <sn9_> !grub | joshman_newb
[04:21] <Kcaj> Just log back in, i assume and gnome should be a fixed er upper? :D
[04:21] <chalcedony> Painless: ohhhhh i'm so sorry to hear that
[04:21] <mneptok> phenobitch: fancy a nick change?
[04:21] <coolasjon> see I can't tell if it is my graphic card or my monitor
[04:21] <Leefmc> Flannel: Bah, yea it farked it all up. Sob.
[04:21] <nikon> mneptok I am having the same problem with SFTP.. I cannot login with the same users into SFTP... if you could help me figure this out that would be GREEEEEATTT because I'd rather run SFTP mneptok THATS WHAT IM TALKIN BOUT
[04:21] <Leefmc> Flannel: Damn i hate how you have to custom compile ffmpeg to get h264 use out of it.
[04:21] <coolasjon> I just installed Hardy today
[04:21] <mneptok> nikon: ssh -vvvvv user@host
[04:21] <Painless> chalcedony: the real biter is that he actually beat the cancer... and pneumonia took him afterwards, too weak to fight it
[04:21] <Shoopuf> sn9_: Strange, I don't have the simple-ccsm installed yet I still have the "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings" in the Preferences Menu
[04:22] <mneptok> nikon: pastebin the output
[04:22] <NickGarvey> osmosis: closed/and it's only a demo
[04:22] <coolasjon> and Its giving me trouble
[04:22] <phenobitch> mneptok not really, i dont see why this channel has a problem with my nick while #freenode and #defocus never mention my nick
[04:22] <NickGarvey> osmosis: (closed source that is)
[04:22] <phenobitch> is this channel more totalitarian than #freenode mneptok?
[04:22] <dr_Willis> Leefmc,  Hmm the medibuntu dont have that built in?
[04:22] <Kcaj> HAHA omg I deleted al the settings
[04:22] <Kcaj> and still no task bar or bottom bar in gnome :( :(
[04:22] <dr_Willis> Leefmc,  err. i mean the one from medibuntu repositories..
[04:22] <sn9_> Shoopuf: yes, that's a dependency of simple-ccsm, not vice-versa
[04:22] <drash> Leefmc: use the ffmpeg version from medibuntu repo
[04:22] <mneptok> phenobitch: mostly because this channel has different rules. one of them is being as "family friendly" as possible
[04:22] <amenado> phenobitch-> this is a family friendly channel. please abide by the request of you
[04:22] <mneptok> phenobitch: feel free not to comply, as is your right. you may also be removed from the channel, as is our right.
[04:23] <noobalert> painless, that command did nothing, i had to kill terminal now i cannot open a new terminal, fubar?
[04:23] <Leefmc> drash: Not sure i want to, the custom compile one i did has a yasm, etc, and ended up with great speedy results.
[04:23] <Shoopuf> sn9_: Thanks, I'll grab simple-ccsm
[04:23] <sn9_> Shoopuf: i thought you were trying to install it, and that would pull it in
[04:23] <phenobitch> i'd rather DIE than change my nick kthanx
[04:23] <noobalert> i should mention im on a pentium 2 almost 300mhz
[04:23] <joshman_newb> thanks ubottu for help!
[04:23] <mneptok> pure class.
[04:23] <coolasjon> ﻿how can I add higher/more screen resolutions in Hardy? Is 640x480 the best I can get?
[04:23] <spork969_> i have a new program but it requires 16 bit color depth. How do i make it change?
[04:23] <drash> Leefmc: ok, no argument there in that case
[04:24] <Kcaj> I srsly am about to crys ;_;
[04:24] <nikon> hey mneptok I am trying to do it with cyberduck.. a GUI to the SFTP command, because I am eventually going to just login wtih the Dreamweaver SFTP tool... thnx again bud.. but wjat shold I try now
[04:24] <Kcaj> How can restore mine top and bottom bars in gnome? google are of no help here, been trying forevers.
[04:24] <mneptok> nikon: ssh -vvvvv user@host
[04:24] <mneptok> nikon: pastebin the output
[04:24] <Leefmc> drash:  I just gatta recompile and hopefully use a different name so apt-get wont whore me. Ugh. Being a linux moron, it took me forever to get that running, man heh
[04:24] <nickrud> spork969 you'd have to define a 16bit color mode in /etc/X11/xorg.conf , then restart X in that mode
[04:24] <Leefmc> drash: Feel like apt-get just kicked me in the nuts.
[04:24] <nikon> on the client or the server mneptok
[04:24] <Painless> noobalert: was just looking back at your message pastes... check out /var/log/messages (near the end) and see if there is anymore detail concerning mysql not starting
[04:24] <mneptok> nikon: you can do that in an OSX terminal
[04:24] <mneptok> nikon: on the client
[04:25] <nikon> mneptok yessir!
[04:25] <sn9_> Kcaj: not easy to do
[04:25] <drash> Leefmc: strange it would do that actually
[04:25] <Flannel> Leefmc: Have you tried the medibuntu ones?
[04:25] <spork969_> nickrud, any way for me to have it change to 16 when i run that program, then have it switch back afterwards?
[04:25] <Kcaj> dpkg and synaptic still don't work
[04:25] <noobalert> any clue how to open a new terminal? it starts and dies
[04:25] <Leefmc> Flannel: Im going to recompile because the compile i use has yasm in it, which is supposed to make it run much faster
[04:25] <Kcaj> Is there a way, with Ubuntu already installed to just start over?
[04:25] <Leefmc> Flannel: Never compared them though
[04:26] <Kcaj> so dpkg and everything will work again?
[04:26] <nickrud> noobalert also check /var/log/mysql.err and info
[04:26] <Kcaj> I'm just going about to reinstall Jewbuntu altogether
[04:26] <noobalert> my terminal wont open ]=
[04:26] <sn9_> Kcaj: there is, but it involves a lot of frustration'
[04:26] <Kcaj> I'll consider this my test install that I horribly crippled
[04:26] <noobalert> i guess i will get on windows and ssh
[04:26] <Painless> noobalert: ! ... try killing X and restarting it
[04:26] <mneptok> Kcaj: lhit!
[04:26] <Kcaj> lhit!?
[04:26] <osmosis> NickGarvey: shouldnt it be in the 'commercial' repository though even if its closed source?  Can the demo still do online play ?
[04:26] <nikon> mneptok http://paste.ubuntu.com/26364/
[04:26] <Leefmc> Flannel: Though perhaps i should just abandon a bit of speed for sanity. I'm not savvy enough to enjoy compiling my own
[04:26] <NickGarvey> osmosis: never played it
[04:27] <mneptok> Kcaj: it's Hebrew :)
[04:27] <pen> what document font do you guys use?
[04:27] <krsnadasa> is there a way to make a xterm session all sudo so i don't have to type sudo this sudo that ?
[04:27] <nickrud> spork969 no, X doesn't support changing color depth on the fly as best I know
[04:27] <NickGarvey> osmosis: and.. if they included that demo then they'd need to include loads of others, too much to be maintained
[04:27] <pen> recommend me some good ones :)
[04:27] <Kcaj> Oh you silly guys
[04:27] <Kcaj> I have to run gnome-panel, but then it errors out
[04:27] <noobalert> how do i kill x? ctrl f1?
[04:27] <Kcaj> and goes away again lol
[04:27] <astro76> krsnadasa: sudo -i
[04:27] <nickrud> krsnadasa sudo -i
[04:27] <NickGarvey> noobalert: ctrl alt backspace
[04:27] <Kcaj> if I fix these errors, all may be good
[04:27] <Kcaj> but dpkg is still broken
[04:27] <noobalert> because my shutdown menu doesnt work either
[04:27] <sn9_> noobalert: atrl-alt-bksp
[04:27] <osmosis> NickGarvey: one would think the game distributors would want to support the packages.
[04:28] <krsnadasa> astro76: thanks
[04:28] <mneptok> nikon: the problem is ssh configs on your OSX machine
[04:28] <drash> Leefmc: the ffmpeg version from medibuntu works just fine, but i'm not the speed demon i was 15 years ago :p
[04:28] <krsnadasa> nickrud: thanks
[04:28] <NickGarvey> osmosis: I mean the game distributors could make a .deb
[04:28] <mneptok> nikon: in OSX, "rm -r ~/.ssh"
[04:28] <nikon> mneptok what do I do??
[04:28] <NickGarvey> osmosis: that'd be one thing
[04:28] <mneptok> nikon: run that command i gave you, then try again.
[04:28] <Leefmc> drash: How do you download from medibuntu? I mean, if multiple repositories hold different versions of the same software, how do you download the one you want?
[04:29]  * nickrud thinks astro76 should get some of those cookies too :)
[04:29] <Leefmc> drash: I know i gatta add medibuntu repo
[04:29] <osmosis> NickGarvey: looks like there are some howto's in the forums out there.
[04:29] <beautifulsnow> hI..... why does my keyboard type in CAPS when the CAPS LOCK is on, but in lower case when the caps lock if off?
[04:29] <NickGarvey> osmosis: on how to package stuff?  I doubt it's particular complicated, in order to allow people to do so
[04:29] <sn9_> beautifulsnow: why not?
[04:30] <nikon> mneptok http://paste.ubuntu.com/26366/
[04:30] <osmosis> NickGarvey: yah...probably no one bothered because the install script they give works well enough
[04:30] <drash> Leefmc: in synaptic's prefs there's a setting you can toggle, it defaults to 'install the highest available version' i believe
[04:30] <DeadKennedy2880> beautifulsnow - sounds right to me
[04:30] <Leefmc> drash: Also, does the medibuntu one have aac, etc? I've found a specific h264 render that works with QuickTime and i'll die if im off heh
[04:30] <nickrud> beautifulsnow real question? If so, I doubt many people here could describe the hardware paths that do that
[04:30] <Miesco> How do I find out what /dev/ my sd card is on?
[04:30] <beautifulsnow> What....
[04:30] <drash> Leefmc: sure, aac is supported
[04:30] <astro76> nickrud: did I miss the cookies? :(
[04:30] <Leefmc> drash: Well if two repos hold the same vers, how do you choose? (from terminal, since im using ssh)
[04:31] <phpcurious> hi, I have ubuntu gutsy gibbon on my laptop. I am just wondering if it is normal that my ubuntu is frequently losing wireless connection?
[04:31] <astro76> beautifulsnow: that is the intended function of the caps lock key as you've described it
[04:31] <sn9_> beautifulsnow: ask a silly question, get a silly answer
[04:31] <ubunty> Hi, I am new.
[04:31] <sn9_> !hi | ubunty
[04:31] <drash> Leefmc: don't know the answer to the terminal version, i suppose it had the same default since synaptic is only a graphical front
[04:31] <nickrud> ubunty welcome to #ubuntu, if you have questions just ask
[04:31] <beautifulsnow> The CAPS LOCK is supposed to make keys UPPER CASE, while if caps lock is supposed is OFF, the keys are supposed to be lower case... the current behavior is, OFF makes keys UPPER CASE. The Oposite.
[04:32] <mneptok> nikon: i see a "Password:" prompt at the end
[04:32] <mneptok> nikon: so type the password
[04:32] <NickGarvey> beautifulsnow: tap your shift keys a few times
[04:32] <NickGarvey> beautifulsnow: and make sure nothing is.. on them
[04:32] <sn9_> beautifulsnow: that's not what you said before
[04:32] <nickrud> beautifulsnow that's the opposite of what you said above actually
[04:32] <nikon> I do mneptok like 3 times it prompts me and then it goes down furtehr and promtps me again and says password incorrect
[04:32] <nikon> mneptok I will send you the complete one hold on
[04:32] <mneptok> nikon: use the correct password for that acocunt
[04:33] <nikon> mneptok I am
[04:33] <ubunty> Nikon, what is wrong?
[04:33] <sn9_> beautifulsnow: you might have "sticky keys" turned on by mistake
[04:33] <djhash> sn9_: is there sticky keys in ubuntu?
[04:33] <mneptok> nikon: you *did* create a "billy" account on the Ubuntu machine, right?
[04:33] <nikon> ubunty I cannot login to sftp from my mac to a few of my accounts n my ubuntu box
[04:33] <nikon> mneptok yes
[04:33] <sn9_> djhash: yes
[04:33] <djhash> cool..
[04:33] <ubunty> oh :(
[04:33] <djhash> i just checked..
[04:33] <trollboy> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronocdh/2651155110/sizes/o/
[04:34] <Leefmc> Flannel: Do you have any idea how i can download ffmpeg from medibuntu? I added the repo, and then downloaded ffmpeg and tried to use it. I got all sorts of errors, so i assume its not supporting x264.. which means its not from medibuntu.. thoughts?
[04:34] <mneptok> trollboy: are like Digg, but four days late?
[04:34]  * trollboy takes his fail and leaves
[04:35] <mneptok> Leefmc: are you trying to transcode to H.264?
[04:35] <astro76> Leefmc: what does 'apt-cache policy ffmpeg' tell you? should have -medibuntu in the version if it's from medibuntu
[04:35] <nickrud> Leefmc  try   apt-cache policy ffmpeg , that will tell you what version you have
[04:35] <DeadKennedy2880> i didnt know reiser murdered your wife though
[04:35] <nikon> mneptok here is the same file but after I keep entering in the pasword and it keeps telling me false... I dont get it ... when I use cyberduck to log into my SFTP accounts two of them work ( one admin and one other) but none of the other accoutns work http://paste.ubuntu.com/26367/
[04:36] <nikon> I just cant login to ssh with any new accounts I make
[04:36] <mneptok> nikon: i suggest running "sudo passwd billy" on the Ubuntu machine, resetting the password that way, and trying again
[04:37] <Leefmc> nickrud: Hmm, seems it is from medibuntu, it just doesn't know x264.. or atleast how i was using x264 before.
[04:37] <Leefmc> Ugh
[04:37] <Miesco> Does ubuntu suppost to automatically read SD cards?
[04:37] <djhash> so.. I have a laptop with ATI Radeon Mobility 7500... and I want to use the svideo.. when I set the laptop to 800x600 i get squiggly screen.. and the same outputs to the svideo.. my xorg.conf can be found here.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5334749#post5334749
[04:37] <nickrud> Miesco in general, yes
[04:38] <Leefmc> drash: What is the x264 version in medibuntu called? its not libx264, nor x264
[04:38] <Miesco> nickrud: Its not :(, any suggestions?
[04:38] <henux> good morning
[04:38] <Agent_bob> i get this http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d9633ca2
[04:38] <mneptok> Leefmc: the media codec is h.264
[04:38] <Leefmc> mneptok: Yes, and i had it all working great, until apt-get trashed my fun heh.
[04:38] <nikon> mneptok it gives me a weird terminal prompt when I log into bill y throgh SSH.. it dosent show the greek username bar or anything it just shows a $ sign.. and the SFTP login still dosent work... but atleast I can login through ssh with billy now
[04:38] <Agent_bob> then dvdrip crashes
[04:38] <nickrud> Miesco I'd start with   tail -f /var/log/syslog    in a terminal, then plug in the sd card. You should get some messages, which should provide some clues
[04:39] <mneptok> Leefmc: transcode for viewing on ..... ?
[04:39] <nikon> wait
[04:39] <nikon> I take that back mneptok the passwd command worked
[04:39] <nikon> thanks budy! i REALLY REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE IT
[04:39] <mneptok> nikon: rawk
[04:39] <Leefmc> mneptok: Nope, "Unknown codec 'h.264'"
[04:39] <Leefmc> mneptok: QuickTime, the web, etc
[04:39] <nikon> mneptok rawk?
[04:39] <mneptok> nikon: "rock"
[04:39] <Agent_bob> anyone ?
[04:39] <Miesco> nickrud: Nothing, just a bunch of cron stuff
[04:39] <mneptok> Leefmc: i use h.264 MPEG4 on my Playstation portable.
[04:40] <Leefmc> mneptok: Ok.. heh, not sure what your saying
[04:40] <mneptok> Leefmc: the app i use is PSPVC
[04:40] <Leefmc> mneptok: Ah
[04:40] <Leefmc> mneptok: Well anyway, i use ffmpeg heh
[04:40] <anolis> h.264 is also used in alot of dvd players
[04:40] <drash> Leefmc: i use libx264-57 (from regular ubuntu repo)
[04:40] <mneptok> Leefmc: very, VERY easy transcoding
[04:40] <Leefmc> drash: K
[04:40] <nickrud> Miesco you should get some lines as soon as you enter the command.  Then when you plug in the card, you should get some more. None at all when you inserted the card
[04:40] <Gman99999> hey what's the command to access the nvidia control panel?
[04:40] <mneptok> Leefmc: scream if drash's suggestion doesn;t work
[04:40] <nickrud> Miesco last sentence was a question
[04:40] <media> painless are you still here
[04:41] <Miesco> nickrud: None
[04:41] <Painless> yep
[04:41] <media> alt-ctrl-bksp really fucked my p2 up
[04:41] <Leefmc> drash: Note that i did not install any x264 crap, but i assume thats not needed because the medibuntu is compiled with x264 right?
[04:41] <rand0m> could someone tell me how I could set my xfce desktop environment to, just like when i log into gnome desktop environment, automount my partition volume named "S3A4004D003" in /media ?
[04:41] <nickrud> Miesco is this card plugged into an external reader?
[04:41] <Miesco> wait
[04:41] <rand0m> perhaps so i could access it quickly by going to "Places", but if that's a difficult task, i'd settle for simply automounting so i can access it through file manager
[04:41] <Miesco> No internal in my laptop
[04:41] <Miesco> I restart hal
[04:41] <Leefmc> drash: Heh, "Unknown codec 'libx264-57'"
[04:41] <Agent_bob> anyone know another app that might be able to copy .vob files from a dvd ?
[04:41] <Xpistos> can anyone tell me why my samba shares show up today but not tomorrow if the host computer is always on?
[04:42] <Leefmc> drash: Argh, i had it perfect too.
[04:42] <drash> Leefmc: don't know how the medibuntu ffmpeg is compiled, for me it works for my simple needs
[04:42] <koshari> rand0m fstab entry
[04:42] <Leefmc> drash: Well you said it was compiled with x264
[04:42] <rand0m> koshari, ???
[04:42] <Miesco> nickrud: Nothing, its internal in my dell laptop
[04:42] <Leefmc> drash: Or so i thought
[04:42] <mneptok> Gman99999: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[04:42] <Leefmc> drash: ffmpeg needs to be compiled with x264 to compile h264. Which is why i did heh
[04:42] <Miesco> nickrud: Its the new DELL XPS M1530 or whatever
[04:43] <Miesco> Like $2600
[04:43] <koshari> rand0m use an fstab entry, /dev/sd** /media/S3A4004D003
[04:43] <nickrud> Miesco are these secure digital?
[04:43] <pen> what document font do you guys use?
[04:43] <pen> recommend me some good ones :)
[04:43] <rand0m> koshari, i dont know what you mean by "fstab entry "
[04:43] <nickrud> Miesco doh, wrong question, a sec
[04:43] <drash> Leefmc: the medibuntu one is as far i know, never bothered to check if it worked
[04:43] <Miesco> k
[04:43] <Leefmc> drash: Argh :p
[04:44] <Leefmc> drash: Oh well, thanks for trying
[04:44] <noobalert> i wondered why i kept highlighting my nick was media
[04:44] <Miesco> nickrud: Maybe im putting the card upside down?
[04:44] <Gman99999> mneptok thanks man
[04:44] <hyperhacker> hi, kinda dumb question, how can I tell whether I'm running 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu? >_>
[04:44] <nickrud> Miesco possible :)
[04:44] <shadow420> how do I empty the /tmp folder during a X session
[04:44] <Miesco> nickrud: I dont think so
[04:44] <drash> Leefmc: mneptok i think said to scream if my suggestion didn't work .. now is the time :p
[04:44] <koshari> rand0m in gnome you are clicking onto the drive in nautilaa and it is auto mounting the drive as S3A4004D003, xfce doesnt have nautilas so you would need to edt the fstab file to do it automagicly at logon,
[04:45] <nickrud> Miesco can't find my sd card, so I'm doing some googling. A sec
[04:45] <krsnadasa> ok 2 things
[04:45] <Miesco> fuck, I put it in upside down and its stuck
[04:45] <Leefmc> drash: His involves a completely different path, i am going to compile ffmpeg again
[04:45] <tritium> Miesco: watch the foul language
[04:45] <mneptok> Miesco: language, dude.
[04:45] <Leefmc> drash: It was working perfectly heh
[04:45] <rand0m> komputes, ahh okay, how do I edit the fstab file ?
[04:45] <krsnadasa> 1. What is the best dock program for gnome ?
[04:45] <Miesco> oh no
[04:45] <Miesco> This is bad
[04:45] <krsnadasa> yes your opinion
[04:45]  * mneptok bastes tritium 
[04:45] <koshari> rand0m i take it the drive in quersion is perminately attached, rather than a removable drive?
[04:45] <Shoopuf> Miesco: Oh man will it come out? :(
[04:45] <Miesco> Shoopuf: NO
[04:45] <krsnadasa> 2. were do i add commands to startup ?
[04:45] <Leefmc> drash: I just need to rename it when i do it, so apt-get doesn't whore me.
[04:45] <tritium> mneptok: :)
[04:45] <komputes> rand0m: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:45] <shadow420> how do I empty the /tmp folder during a X session???
[04:46] <koshari> !fstab
[04:46] <Miesco> My moms going to kill me
[04:46] <rand0m> koshari, yeah im on a laptop.. the one i mentioned is just my ntfs harddrive with all my media
[04:46] <arvind_khadri> !enter krsnadasa
[04:46] <sn9_> shadow420: by rebooting
[04:46] <drash> Leefmc: i still don't get why your apt would do such a thing, goodluck with the compile
[04:46] <komputes> rand0m: what are you trying to do with it? what type of filesystem do you want to mount at startup
[04:46] <Leefmc> drash: Thanks
[04:46] <Miesco> Why did I try to force it in :(
[04:46] <Miesco> It went in so smoothly the other way around
[04:46] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: he dosent know
[04:46] <Leefmc> drash: Honestly, i think its just references, but i dont know anything about the references heh
[04:46] <krsnadasa> lol
[04:46] <koshari> rand0m ntfs drive or partition?
[04:46] <arvind_khadri> komputes,  rand0m it is gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[04:47] <rand0m> komputes, koshari : should i be editting this file while booted into xfce, ?? i suppose a dumb question, but i booted into gnome to find the partition name
[04:47] <arvind_khadri> !enter | krsnadasa
[04:47] <Miesco> K got it out with a toe nail cliper, just grabed it like tweasers and yanked it out
[04:47] <koshari> rand0m you only need to edit it once, otherwise another alternative would be to make a script to mount that particular drive at any time
[04:48] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: ;) thanks
[04:48] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, welcome :)
[04:48] <sn9_> Miesco: i hope you didn't squeeze
[04:48] <Shoopuf> What is wget?
[04:48] <Miesco> sn9_: A bit
[04:48] <sn9_> Shoopuf: command-line downloader
[04:48] <Miesco> Should be good
[04:48] <Erick|Laptop> how do i set a static IP address? anyone know of a guide?
[04:49] <Miesco> Ubuntu is still not recognizing card
[04:49] <Shoopuf> sn9_: So you can download like from an HTTP link with wget? :O cool
[04:49] <AllSaintsDay> If I put bad options into the "right-click->properties->mount options" for a removable disk (specifically a PSP) and now it won't automount, where do I go to remove those options? There's no line in /etc/fstab for it.
[04:49] <sn9_> Miesco: does it recognize other sd cards?
[04:49] <Miesco> sn9_: I dont know
[04:49] <arvind_khadri> Erick|Laptop, which version??
[04:49] <astro76> AllSaintsDay: run gconf-editor, it's somewhere in there
[04:50] <krsnadasa> can i get opinions on which dock program is best to use with gnome and also were to add commands to start up ?
[04:50] <Erick|Laptop> 7.1 arvind_khadri
[04:50] <koshari> Erick|Laptop  just maunally configere , available through network notifier
[04:50] <rand0m> hrmm.. how can i figure out with sd** my ntfs partition is ?
[04:50] <rand0m> *which
[04:50] <arvind_khadri> Erick|Laptop, run gksu network-admin
[04:50] <rand0m> sda rather
[04:50] <sn9_> rand0m: sudo fdisk -l
[04:50] <rsys> rand0m, fdisk -l
[04:50] <arvind_khadri> rand0m, sudo fdisk -l
[04:51] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: that didn't get me any attention Lol
[04:52] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, :) whats the question will see if i can be of any possible help
[04:52] <krsnadasa> can i get opinions on which dock program is best to use with gnome and also were to add commands to start up ?
[04:52] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: yay!
[04:52] <IdleOne> krsnadasa, System>Prefferences>Sessions for the startup programs
[04:52] <sn9_> rand0m: sudo fdisk -l
[04:52] <sn9_> wtf is up with this freenode lag?
[04:52] <ceue_15> oi
[04:52] <koshari> krsnadasa personally i prefer to use a single panel but i thing avast is the best dock
[04:52] <AllSaintsDay> Thanks, astro76. Back to where it was before at least. :-)
[04:53] <koshari> avant i should say
[04:53] <krsnadasa> koshari: single panel ?
[04:53] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, i would directly edit the rc.local dunno about the GUI one...the best doc program as in a editor would be gedit
[04:53] <Gman99999> Hey Im hooking my tv up to my laptop I can't seem to get the picture centered on the full screen, I'm sure I could figure it out but if anyone has already had this experience I would love it if they could add their two cents
[04:53] <koshari> krsnadasa yes just the one at the top rather than the default top and bottom
[04:53] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: dock like mac os style
[04:53] <joshual> hey folks how do I make GDM show user names in a list ?
[04:53] <krsnadasa> koshari: got you ;)
[04:54] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, ohh i have no idea about it :)
[04:54] <rand0m> k so, editting /etc/fstab.. do i have to put anything after "/dev/sda1       /media/S3A4004D003"  ?? i notice the other things listed half some weird tags after it
[04:54] <koshari> krsnadasa: avant is a copy of the mac dock
[04:54] <AllSaintsDay> So, now that I can at least see my PSP again, anyone know how to mount a PSP (vfat) read-write?
[04:54] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: ok cool ;)
[04:54] <IdleOne> kibadock
[04:54] <sn9_> Gman99999: make sure the video standard is set correctly
[04:54] <krsnadasa> koshari: yea i am using that now but buggy
[04:54] <koshari> rand0m: you will need to put ntfs3g as the filetype
[04:54] <Gman99999> sn9_ how would you go about finding that out?
[04:54] <alraune> rand0m:?
[04:55] <Gman99999> sn9_ Ive got the nvidia control panel open
[04:55] <arvind_khadri> joshual, that must be the GDM theme, the circles with user list stuff
[04:55] <sn9_> Gman99999: if you have nvidia, you may need to edit xorg.conf
[04:55] <mcdoogal> I'm looking for help on a wireless issues, (not being able to connect to wpa networks) but happy to connect to encryption-free networks.   Where would be the best place to go for assistance? (Besides google/forums/web) which didn't help me much.
[04:55] <krsnadasa> koshari: i wouldn't mind using the panel but... when i tell a program to flash it uses a very light hightlight color and also it does not match the theme what so ever
[04:55] <koshari> krsnadasa: you could try kiba dock, however its not designed to copy the mac dock so is much different
[04:55] <sn9_> Gman99999: NTSC vs. PAL
[04:55] <rand0m> basically i just want to know if this is all i put in fstab?: "/dev/sda1       /media/S3A4004D003     ntfs3g "  ?
[04:55] <Gman99999> sn9_ ok so i would need to change my settings to ntsc?
[04:55] <sn9_> mcdoogal: try fedora
[04:56] <rsys> mcdoogal, do you got a pop-up that ask the password to join that network ?
[04:56] <alraune> rand0m:  ...user rw  0 0
[04:56] <sn9_> Gman99999: is your tv ntsc, or pal?
[04:56] <rand0m> alraune, i put that after waht i put ?
[04:56] <cycom> Has anyone found a workaround for evdev spewing hundreds of ButtonPress events when you hold a mouse button down?
[04:56] <ozzloy> how do i repeat a command until it succeeds?  some elementary bash?
[04:56] <alraune> yep
[04:56] <alraune> rand0m: yep
[04:56] <mcdoogal> Yeah and i have the right password, I'm using wpa-personal because leap didn't work right either .. it gets to a point where is says "waiting for the network key from wireless network coon-net"
[04:56] <IdleOne> ozzloy, #bash perhaps
[04:57] <koshari> rand0m check this link
[04:57] <koshari> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=44360587
[04:57] <Gman99999> sn9_ its ntsc
[04:57] <koshari> rand0m sorry i meant this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=780202
[04:57] <Powitsjj> hello
[04:57] <sn9_> Gman99999: then that's what it should be set to
[04:58] <arvind_khadri> Powitsjj, hii
[04:58] <sn9_> Gman99999: also, play with the overscan/underscan settings
[04:58] <Chaotic_Descent> why am I getting file:///tmp/purpleQ396DU when Pigin messenger tries to open my HotMail account?
[04:58] <Xpistos> how do alias two commands into one
[04:59] <sn9_> Xpistos: example?
[04:59] <koshari> Xpistos with a script
[04:59] <rsys> did anyone have problem with latest wine version ?
[04:59] <Gman99999> sn9_ I found that if i move the little screen within the bigger screen which is my laptop display that it changes the position of the amount of screen that is viewable by the tv
[04:59] <Xpistos> cd and ls
[04:59] <rsys> it seems cause my ubuntu crash..
[04:59] <Chaotic_Descent> Sorry. Pidgin. I get file:///tmp/purpleQ396DU as an address, which is a blank page.
[04:59] <Gman99999> sn9_ I just wish that I could make them of equal size
[04:59] <rand0m> k im gonna test this out. rebooting
[04:59] <Miesco> nickrud: Its a xd card...
[04:59] <Xpistos> would it be cd ... | ls
[04:59] <koshari> rand0m you dont need to reboot
[04:59] <sn9_> Gman99999: change your resolution
[04:59] <alraune> rand0m: mount -a
[05:00] <koshari>  rand0m remeber this aint windows,
[05:00] <bbyever> Im not being able to print with an epson CX8300
[05:00] <sn9_> Xpistos: cd ; ls
[05:00] <astro76> Xpistos: command1; command2, or command1 && command2 so command2 will only run if command1 is successful
[05:01] <Leefmc> drash: Bah. Somethin went wrong with all this crap, now the compiles not workin. oh well, time to see if the forums have any idea.
[05:01] <dm> Anyone know anything about btnx and mice
[05:01] <Leefmc> drash: Do you know anything about the command "aptitude hold"?
[05:01] <Leefmc> drash: Any idea what the heck it does? Because it did not protect ffmpeg by any means.
[05:01] <krsnadasa> koshari: i wouldn't mind using the panel but... when i tell a program to flash it uses a very light hightlight color and also it does not match the theme what so ever
[05:01] <drash> Leefmc: nope, never touched aptitude
[05:01] <Powitsjj> anyone know anything about hacking?
[05:01] <krsnadasa> koshari: sorry for double post just didn't get a responce
[05:01] <koshari> krsnadasa what do you mean by "flash it"
[05:01] <sn9_> dm: get a cat ;P
[05:02] <Powitsjj> like...getting into someones computer and seeing what their doing?
[05:02] <dm> sn9_ ?
[05:02] <sn9_> mice...
[05:02] <dm> sn9_ oh..
[05:02] <Leefmc> drash: K. I was told it would protect my ffmpeg build, but it didnt do crap.. argh. So frustrated, time to go hulk on something hah, anyway, thanks for your help :)
[05:02] <astro76> Powitsjj: that's cracking, and it's offtopic here for sure
[05:02] <krsnadasa> koshari: blink like when you receive a message alert in pidgin
[05:02] <Powitsjj> know where i can find a chat for that?
[05:02] <drash> Leefmc: have you seen http://www.awry.ws/rebuilding_ubuntu_ffmpeg ?
[05:02] <genii> Powitsjj: Nowhere on this server
[05:02] <dm> seriously, does anyone know anything about BTNX and a MOUSE (the kind you use on your computer, not in the mood for humor sorry)
[05:03] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: how do you check the kernel ver you are running?
[05:03] <Powitsjj> hmmm
[05:03] <koshari> krsnadasa i dont know why that would be happining, my panel is fine while receiving messages?
[05:03] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, uname -r or even -a
[05:03] <bbyever> !printing
[05:03] <Chaotic_Descent> Is there a FireFox setting for redirecting local files? I'm wondering if that's why Pidgin can't load up Hotmail.
[05:03] <Leefmc> drash: Nope
[05:03] <Leefmc> drash: Im using the one off of the forums
[05:03] <krsnadasa> koshari: mine is too its just the light tan color isn't very noticeable
[05:03] <Leefmc> drash: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[05:04] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: thanks
[05:04] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, :)
[05:04] <drash> Leefmc: ok, checking that one
[05:04] <m-c> Heya, what is the official line about the PPC (Mac) version of Ubuntu?  Somebody asked me about it tonight, and I was not totally sure of the answer.
[05:04] <Leefmc> drash: K thanks
[05:05] <Chaotic_Descent> Hrm... I think it was a damned Tor plugin setting. Tor was disabled, but the setting was still blocking me. -_-;
[05:05] <koshari> m-c community support
[05:05] <Leefmc> drash: Man this is a huge pain. Pretty lame you need to compile this for such a popular choice
[05:05] <arvind_khadri> Chaotic_Descent, there is nothing like that AFAIK , there had been some documentation for hotmail users..i havent gone through it...if there is #pidgin you can ask there
[05:05] <sn9_> m-c: it's officially unofficial
[05:05] <Xpistos> Thanks guys
[05:05] <m-c> koshari: Is there a 8.04 release, for  example ?  sn9_
[05:05] <Powitsjj> shouldnt it work on any intel cpu?
[05:05] <sn9_> m-c: yes, and it works great
[05:05] <krsnadasa> koshari: how about the theme issue? my bar is white and all the windows are black with the glass engine ?
[05:05] <Powitsjj> the intel version that is
[05:05] <Leefmc> drash: Im confused as why its even needed anyway. Isn't x264 open source? Why can't they distribute x264 compiled in ffmpeg
[05:05] <koshari> m-c there is for the ps3 dunno about other ppc ports
[05:05] <m-c> sn9_: Oh, I guess I misspoke.  Glad I came in here to check
[05:05] <krsnadasa> koshari: i have the bar set to use the theme but nothing special happens
[05:06] <m-c> sn9_: Where do you "get" this PPC port?
[05:06] <rand0m> had no luck mounting or automounting that drive
[05:06] <drash> Leefmc: i'm just a regular user myself, can't answer those :) legelistics i suppose
[05:06] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, are you using emerald??
[05:06] <rand0m> sudo mount won even work now
[05:06] <koshari> krsnadasa i use clearlooks theme with gartoon icons and emerald windowmanager with a glass theme
[05:06] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: yes sir
[05:06] <Leefmc> drash: Yea, i just dont get why one opensource cant use another, its just lame heh.
[05:06] <rand0m> I get mount point /media/windows does not exist
[05:06] <sn9_> m-c: in the ports directory of the cdimage download server
[05:06] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, then after you change a theme then you should use emerald --replace
[05:07] <m-c> okay, thank you, sn9_
[05:07] <koshari> krsnadasa and scale, cube and reflection plugins
[05:07] <Miesco> 03:09.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 12)
[05:07] <Miesco> Thats my card reader
[05:07] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: i did that but the menu/status bar (how ever you call it) remains the same just the windows change
[05:07] <Miesco> It wont read my xd card..
[05:07] <sn9_> lorenisgay: where do you get all these nicks?
[05:07] <krsnadasa> koshari: and that changes the little bar thingy ?
[05:08] <Chaotic_Descent> arvind_khadri: it was the Tor plugin, Torbutton or something. :S I fixed it.
[05:08] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, that doesnt change AFAIK :)
[05:08] <Carb0n> I have something
[05:08] <koshari> krsnadasa it will emeald is just a window decoratior,
[05:08] <krsnadasa> koshari: i would like to see a screenshot of oyur desktop it sounds neat
[05:08] <Carb0n> For the Card Reader..
[05:08] <arvind_khadri> Chaotic_Descent, cool :)
[05:08] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: AFAIK ?
[05:08] <DIL> i have a network set up - my home network X and i have two linux laptops network - i have most of my the computers on X but the laptops - 1 is on mshome and the other on workgroup how can i get the laptops to be on X
[05:08] <Chaotic_Descent> the option is "block access to network from file:// urls"
[05:08] <Carb0n> Where can I paste a bit of text?
[05:08] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, as far as i know :)
[05:08] <krsnadasa> koshari: exactly so how do you change the bar thingy ?
[05:08] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: thanks once again
[05:09] <powertool|lappy> Whats a good size for a /boot partition?
[05:09] <alraune> rand0m: see dialog
[05:09] <koshari> krsnadasa right click, then properties
[05:09] <koshari> on the panel
[05:09] <sn9_> DIL: i take it they're not all running ubuntu...
[05:09] <krsnadasa> koshari: yea and then ?
[05:09] <Carb0n> Card Reader Automount
[05:09] <Carb0n>     * Add the following shell script in /etc/init.d/ directory (for example, with name cardreader.sh):
[05:09] <Carb0n> #!/bin/bash
[05:09] <Carb0n> modprobe mmc_core
[05:09] <Carb0n> modprobe mmc_block
[05:09] <Carb0n> modprobe tifm_sd
[05:09] <FloodBot2> Carb0n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:09] <DIL> xubuntu, ubuntu and doze
[05:09] <Carb0n>     * Setup the script for automatic execution at boot time in default runlevel:
[05:10] <Carb0n> Where the hell is the paste bin?
[05:10] <tritium> Carb0n: calm down
[05:10] <powertool|lappy> !paste
[05:10] <DIL> sn9_: i see them but on different "workgroups"
[05:10] <koshari> krsnadasa i will give you a look at a few themes i have
[05:11] <krsnadasa> koshari: coooool
[05:11] <Carb0n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26372/
[05:11] <krsnadasa> koshari: you sound like you have a nice setup
[05:11] <sn9_> DIL: you set which workgroup each is on
[05:11] <koshari> krsnadasa: my old edgy http://www.in.com.au/~holty/edgy.jpg
[05:11] <jm2k> anyone have a source.list of all repositories?
[05:11] <jm2k> for Hardy.
[05:11] <powertool|lappy> Whats a good size for a /boot partition?
[05:12] <jm2k> if yes, could you post on pastebin please.
[05:12] <sn9_> jm2k: i do hope you mean all _official_ repositories
[05:12] <jm2k> sn9_: yes
[05:12] <DIL> sn9_: i thought they were set to "X" but had issues with samba domain name was not in network general tab
[05:12] <Carb0n> My /boot was only about 100MB and the Updates filled it up.
[05:12] <Carb0n> Then Updates failed.
[05:12] <sn9_> !repositories | jm2k
[05:12] <koshari> krsnadasa: my current hardy http://www.in.com.au/~holty/images/current.png
[05:12] <Carb0n> Had to delete crap to get updates again.
[05:12] <krsnadasa> koshari: nice thats how my desktop looks right now but can't get the panel to change its color to match the windows :(
[05:12] <rsys> powertool|lappy, 100 MB is enough for your /boot partition
[05:13] <jm2k> sn9_: i'm looking for old headers which are not in the current repository : version 2.6.22-14-generic.
[05:13] <Shoopuf> How do I run a .DEB file from command line????
[05:13] <koshari> krsnadasa: and my notebook http://www.in.com.au/~holty/images/beryl.jpg
[05:13] <arvind_khadri> Shoopuf, you can only install a .deb
[05:13] <sn9_> jm2k: that's the kernel for gutsy 7.10 -- don't use it on hardy
[05:13] <scorpian> my compiz stopped workin after the update that i did now damm
[05:13] <jm2k> sn9_: i'm current runnig that version.
[05:13] <rsys> Shoopuf, dpkg -i packagename.deb
[05:14] <powertool|lappy> rsys: thanks
[05:14] <koshari> krsnadasa: i took a screenshot of an open window then cropped the title bar and use that as a panel image
[05:14] <arvind_khadri> Shoopuf, sudo dpkg  -i packagename.deb
[05:14] <krsnadasa> koshari: beautiful dog ;)
[05:14] <krsnadasa> koshari: smart
[05:14] <nickrud> Miesco you still about
[05:15] <koshari> krsnadasa hes sitting in front of the heater right now :-) i guess he dont like the cold and rain outside today]
[05:15] <DIL> sn9_: thanks for responding looks like googlefu time
[05:15] <Miesco> Wait, I did modprobe ricoh-mmc
[05:15] <Miesco> nickrud: Yea
[05:15] <Miesco> nickrud: I have a ricoh card reader
[05:15] <krsnadasa> koshari: i envy you
[05:15] <Miesco> I think I need a driver
[05:15] <mikesc> can xchat connect to multiple servers in the same session?
[05:15] <sn9_> Miesco: try sdhci
[05:15] <krsnadasa> koshari: its 110 up here in northern cali
[05:15] <nickrud> http://mydebian.blogdns.org/?p=243 here's something for you to compare to your situation
[05:15] <Miesco> 03:09.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 12)
[05:15] <nickrud> Miesco ^^
[05:15] <krsnadasa> koshari: were u at ?
[05:15] <arvind_khadri> mikesc, yeah but its OT
[05:15] <Shoopuf> arvind_khadri, rsys: thanks
[05:16] <Miesco> nickrud: I did, its a xd card
[05:16] <krsnadasa> koshari: what breed is your dog? hes hella cute
[05:16] <sn9_> mikesc: /newserver foo.bar
[05:16] <tritium> krsnadasa, koshari: please stay on topic
[05:16] <nickrud> Miesco ah, xd card. Now you tell me :)
[05:16] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, koshari OT :) you dont want the ops coming at you
[05:16] <Andrewh1112> anyone know what do when the "user settings" app won't let me edit the users? (could not authenticate)
[05:16] <Miesco> nickrud: I didn't knwo there was a difference, my mom told me
[05:16] <Miesco> nickrud: 03:09.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 12)
[05:16] <Shoopuf> Cute dog, but please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, perhaps there will be people there to share it with too. :)
[05:16] <krsnadasa> tritium: ;)
[05:17] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: thanks for heads up... again
[05:17] <Miesco> [493052.835303] ricoh-mmc: Ricoh MMC Controller disabling driver
[05:17] <Miesco> What does that mean?
[05:17] <bbyever> epson CX8300 is not working with the gutenprint driver... can someone help?
[05:17] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, :) hey please dont mention it so many times :)
[05:17] <sn9_> Miesco: means the driver is being unloaded
[05:17] <krsnadasa> koshari: i guess thats why they invented the personal message thingy
[05:17] <koshari> krsnadasa anyway the screenshot/crop /use as banel background will get you a matching panel
[05:17] <nickrud> Miesco https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/202490
[05:18] <Miesco> for the xd pci:  this device hasn't been claimed
[05:18] <paul_5666> hi, if someone can help me with the update manager please msg me.
[05:18] <krsnadasa> koshari: ok thanks for your help
[05:18] <kari> I am downloading ubuntu dvd using transmission.. but after 26% completion it started from begin ning..
[05:18] <krsnadasa> arvind_khadri: lol ok :) just like to be polite
[05:18] <redct> pa3dsc: what's the problem with the update
[05:18] <arvind_khadri> krsnadasa, :)
[05:18] <sn9_> !anyone | paul_5666
[05:18] <redct> er, paul_5666
[05:19] <arvind_khadri> !ask | paul_5666
[05:19] <redct> I think he's got the message :P
[05:19] <jm2k> how can i tell ubuntu to search all hardware devices and check drivers for it from repository?
[05:19] <arvind_khadri> redct :P
[05:19] <powertool|lappy> Should /boot be on the same disk as / or will a separate disk result in better performance?
[05:19] <redct> powertool|lappy: the difference is negligible I think
[05:19] <pabix> Hello, I have many files named ClusterInfo in many directories; I would like to extract the lines 8n+3 in each; I tried « find . -name ClusterInfo -execdir awk 'NR%8==3' {} > Means \; » but it writes to the file Means in the PWD
[05:19] <sn9_> jm2k: you don't -- they're all in the kernel pkgs
[05:20] <pabix> Is there a way with find?
[05:20] <Miesco> hold on, install sdricoh-cs
[05:20] <nickrud> jm2k the hardware drivers are part of the kernel, you get them all at once
[05:20] <astro76> powertool|lappy: there's little reason for most people to have a separate /boot, and performance isn't one of them ;)
[05:20] <bbyever> where can i get help with the gutenprint driver?
[05:20] <rand0m> is there a better bittorrent client i can use in xfce than transmission?
[05:20] <sn9_> Miesco: that's for a pc card adapter
[05:20] <maco> pabix: um, what do you *expect* "> Means" to do?
[05:20] <redct> rand0m: transmission usually works quite well
[05:21] <arvind_khadri> rand0m, #xubuntu :D
[05:21] <mikemorr> Hello all. I just booted from the 8.04.1 CD. I got past the language selection and to the menu. When I pick "Install Ubuntu" or "Check CD for defects" the logo appears and the progress bar goes back and forth and then freezes. Now it is frozen. Any ideas on what's wrong?
[05:21] <nickrud> powertool|lappy separate boot is needed for lvm, and raid if you're lazy
[05:21] <rand0m> redct, i could just be retarded but it seems oddly slow
[05:21] <kari> can any one help with transmission..
[05:21] <pabix> maco, I would like it to write One file "Means" for each original file
[05:21] <maco> mikemorr: possibly the CD has defects
[05:21] <pabix> in the same directory
[05:21] <redct> mikemorr: there's most likely defects on the CD
[05:21] <rand0m> oh xubuntu just means ubuntu with xfce DE instead of Gnome ?
[05:21] <sn9_> mikemorr: is it a recent computer?
[05:21] <redct> mikemorr: burn a new one
[05:21] <mikemorr> maco: thanks
[05:21] <nickrud> mikemorr I'd bet on bad disk/iso download
[05:21] <redct> rand0m: yup.
[05:21] <jm2k> so, where is the source located for my current kernel?
[05:21] <arvind_khadri> rand0m, yup!!
[05:21] <Miesco> sn9_: Hmm?
[05:21] <chalcedony> mikemorr: i went through that 100 times and finally sent the mb back
[05:21] <mikemorr> redct: thanks
[05:22] <tritium> jm2k: in a package you'd need to download
[05:22] <maco> pabix: oh...probably have to send the list of files to a for loop then do the writing in the for loop
[05:22] <paul_5666> sorry (; basically ive installed vmware server using a rpm due to my inexperience with ubuntu. it was very large being nearly 500mb, and thus i was lazy and just tried to use alien to convert it to a deb file. the install broke halfway and now i can't install any packages as it seems the update manager has stuffed up. ive posted on the forum here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=854782
[05:22] <pabix> maco, I did: find . -name ClusterInfo | while read i; do awk 'NR%8==3' "$i" > "$(dirname "$i")"/Means ; done
[05:22] <redct> jm2k: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[05:22] <jm2k> tritium: package name?
[05:22] <mikemorr> sn9_: refurb HP Intel 2 Quad 6600, 4GB RAM
[05:22] <chalcedony> mikearr: bad cd was what i kept being told .. i swapped the cd drive, the cds and even the hd
[05:22] <nickrud> jm2k if you want the source, install linux-source . If you want to see what modules you have, look in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[05:22] <powertool|lappy> nickrud: whats lvm? encryption?
[05:22] <pabix> but I would have liked a single command with find
[05:22] <khin> hey, i just upgraded from dapper to hardy and now when i try to load phpmyadmin on localhost, i get: phpMyAdmin - Error
[05:22] <khin> Cannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration. - Documentation
[05:22] <arvind_khadri> !apt-fix | paul_5666
[05:22] <nickrud> powertool|lappy Logical Volume Management
[05:22] <rareed> can anyone point me to a good guide for troubleshooting wireless networking?  My wireless ran fine on Ubuntu for nearly a year, but recently it has been performing extremely poorly
[05:22] <Miesco> nickrud: So it doesn't work?
[05:22] <sn9_> mikemorr: try booting safe graphics mode
[05:22] <maco> pabix: ah, sorry, dunno about that
[05:22] <mikemorr> nickrud: thanks. I'll try burning a new one maybe
[05:22] <Jason2gs> Hi everyone :) Should I have to do anything special to have Ubuntu transfer sound to my monitor headphone jack?
[05:23] <redct> Jason2gs: it should usually work automatically
[05:23] <nickrud> !md5 | mikemorr do this first, to check your download
[05:23] <maco> Jason2gs: have the monitor's sound plug connected to the tower
[05:23] <mikemorr> chalcedony: I hope it's not that bad :) It runs Vista fine.
[05:23] <pabix> maco, do you think on #gnu they all have a beard and are rude, or could I ask them?
[05:23] <Jason2gs> Sound plug?
[05:23] <redct> khin: try installing the php5-mysql package.  use your favorite package manager
[05:23] <nickrud> Miesco sounds like it won't read xd from what I've read
[05:23] <maco> pabix: never been in that channel, sorry
[05:23] <Jason2gs> Ah, there it is :p
[05:23] <chalcedony> mikearr: i'm sure you will be ok , terrify it :)
[05:23] <Jason2gs> Haha ^_^
[05:23] <jm2k> nickrud: where does the linux-source get installed? Dir ?
[05:23] <pabix> maco, then I will try, thank you for your help
[05:23] <maco> jm2k: /usr/src/ i believe
[05:23] <nickrud> jm2k in /usr/src , it will be a tarball
[05:23] <tritium> jm2k: what are you trying to do?
[05:23] <paul_5666> unbottu: nope didnt work
[05:24] <sn9_> pabix: there is also #posix
[05:24] <Xpistos> failed to mount windows share? I don't get it I can see it
[05:24] <mikemorr> nickrud: Thanks. I did md5 it and it matched the hash at one of the mirrors (8.04.1 hash wasn't up yet at ubuntu.com last I checked)
[05:24] <khin> redct, php5-mysql is installed
[05:24] <pabix> sn9_, for find related matters?
[05:24] <tony12> r
[05:24] <sn9_> oh
[05:24] <redct> khin: hrm... :/
[05:24] <nickrud> mikemorr I read something about that on the lists, I guess you'd have to trust the mirror listing
[05:24] <tritium> jm2k: linux-source-2.6.24 is in the repos, but why do you think you need it?
[05:24] <jm2k> tritium, i downloaded the tarball earlier and followed some site directions. wanted to make sure that if i manually delete the source from /usr/src/ that i can reinstall it there again.
[05:25] <tritium> jm2k: for what purpose?
[05:25] <sn9_> jm2k: in the time you've spent here, you could have reinstalled from scratch and restored all your data
[05:25] <jm2k> tritium: having trouble installing madwifi (becuz wireless stopped working).
[05:25] <arvind_khadri> paul_5666, its jus a bot :)
[05:25] <paul_5666> o xD
[05:26] <paul_5666> oops
[05:26] <sn9_> jm2k: madwifi is preinstalled by default
[05:26] <tritium> jm2k: madwifi is provided for you in the restricted drivers
[05:26] <jm2k> sn9_: true but i also want to learn ;) i just havent followed directions appropriately earlier today.
[05:26] <jm2k> LOL
[05:26] <tritium> No need to install source, jm2k.
[05:27] <arvind_khadri> paul_5666, what happens when you run apt-get??
[05:27] <Miesco> nickrud: Can I get a driver?  I got this sdricoh-cs module
[05:27] <Miesco> I loaded it
[05:27] <paul_5666> which command specifially?
[05:27] <Miesco> I had to compile it
[05:27] <Miesco> http://mydebian.blogdns.org/?p=243
[05:27] <RequinB4> I read somewhere that I could use a line in port as a headphone port -- how can I tell what is a line in port and how would I make this happen?
[05:27] <rareed> After over a year of excellent performance, my wireless has mostly stopped working with ubuntu.  Any suggestions on where to get started fixing it?
[05:27] <arvind_khadri> paul_5666, say apt-get install <packagename> ,while the vmare is off
[05:27] <sn9_> RequinB4: only on some motherboards
[05:27] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'su-to-root' in 'man keytouch(1)': "keytouch-keyboard is a wrapper that acquires root permission to run keytouch-keyboard-bin (with su-to-root) and optionally (if --restart-keytouch is given as argument) calls keytouch."?
[05:28] <paula> rg
[05:28] <nickrud> Miesco I'm not sure. I don't have a card to experiment with myself, so I don't have an opinion on the instructions
[05:28] <arvind_khadri> !tab | paul_5666
[05:28] <jm2k> tritium: was trying the thinkwiki directions of reinstalling wireless drivers w/ madwifi but am suppose to compile madwifi.
[05:28] <RequinB4> sn9 -- ok, but how can I tell if I can do this?  My headphone port isn't liking me
[05:28] <Shoopuf> "﻿bash: ﻿sudo: command not found" ???????
[05:28] <Miesco> nickrud: Okay, thanks, i'll just do it on another computer
[05:28] <sn9_> jm2k: don't do that
[05:28] <tritium> jm2k: don't follow those directions.  You already have madwifi
[05:28] <redct> bullgard4: it means run sudo, or to run the command as root
[05:28] <redct> !sudo | bullgard4
[05:28] <arvind_khadri> bullgard4, the command must be used with sudo i guess
[05:28] <jm2k> tritium: when i did "make" on madwifi it kept saying kernelpath incorrect.
[05:28] <nickrud> bullgard4 it's a command, locate su-to-root
[05:29] <arvind_khadri> Shoopuf, you must have missed something check again
[05:29] <sn9_> RequinB4: by reading your motherboard's manual
[05:29] <paul_5666> arvind_khadri: Reading package lists... Done
[05:29] <paul_5666> Building dependency tree
[05:29] <paul_5666> Reading state information... Done
[05:29] <paul_5666> E: The package vmware-server needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:29] <khin> Hmmm... I have reinstalled php5-mysql to see what would happen. Now it says I do not have permission to access phpmyadmin on this server!
[05:29] <tritium> jm2k: please inspect the output of "modprobe -l | grep madwifi" to see for yourself that you already have madwifi.
[05:29] <paul_5666> lol tab is awesome
[05:29] <mikemorr> sn9_: I hit F4 for Modes and picked "Safe graphics mode" and it stays on the main menu. Do I need to pick "Try Ubuntu" after that?
[05:29] <tritium> paul_5666: so is not pasting
[05:29] <nickrud> paul_5666  sudo dpkg -i  <the vmware deb you downloaded>
[05:29] <jm2k> tritium: okay. however none of the ATH_ modules are installed.
[05:30] <tritium> jm2k: sure they are
[05:30] <sn9_> mikemorr: try F6 and getting rid of the "quiet splash" part
[05:30] <arvind_khadri> paul_5666, sudo apt-get --purge vmware-server then install it
[05:30] <paul_5666> ok
[05:30] <jm2k> tritium: u R right, they are there,
[05:30] <tritium> jm2k: ls /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/madwifi/ | grep ath
[05:30] <sn9_> mikemorr: replace it with "debug"
[05:31] <jm2k> trtium: i'm assuming those drivers/modules are working correctly? how could i check?
[05:31] <mikemorr> sn9_: deleted "quiet splash" and hit enter (didn't see your second line in time)
[05:31] <paul_5666> arvind_khadri: E: Invalid operation vmware-server
[05:31] <jm2k> trtium: output is: "ath_rate_minstrel.ko"
[05:31] <vexati0n> why does gparted keep trying to read a floppy drive that doesn't exist :/
[05:31] <nickrud> paul_5666  sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware-server
[05:31] <bullgard4> nickrud, arvind_khadri: Thank you for your help.
[05:32] <mikemorr> sn9_: Now I've got one screen of text (configuring, detecting, etc.)
[05:32] <tritium> jm2k: you should have others
[05:32] <arvind_khadri> paul_5666, nickrud is right
[05:32] <arvind_khadri> bullgard4, welcome :)
[05:32] <sn9_> vexati0n: because you didn't turn it off in the bios
[05:32]  * nickrud waited for arvind_khadri but couldn't forever ;)
[05:32] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, its so confusing to remember that syntax :)
[05:33] <paul_5666> nickrud and arvind_khadri: XXX@:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware-server
[05:33] <paul_5666> Reading package lists... Done
[05:33] <paul_5666> Building dependency tree
[05:33] <paul_5666> Reading state information... Done
[05:33] <paul_5666> E: The package vmware-server needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:33] <sn9_> mikemorr: what's the last thing you see?
[05:33] <FloodBot2> paul_5666: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:33] <mikemorr> sn9_: It has stopped after "[ 243.839163] hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected"
[05:33] <tritium> paul_5666: I told you not to paste already
[05:33] <arvind_khadri> !paste | paul_5666
[05:33] <bullgard4> redct: After the nickrud and arvind_khadri helped me, I know now that your answer: " it means run sudo, or to run the command as root" is not the truth.
[05:33] <sn9_> mikemorr: do you have any usb devices?
[05:33] <paul_5666> o ok =\
[05:33] <jm2k> tritium: ah, the changed to my current kernel. yes, have more: ath, ath_hal, ath_rate, patches.
[05:33] <mikemorr> sn9_: yes
[05:33] <sn9_> mikemorr: unplug them
[05:34] <redct> bullgard4: sorry if I messed you up then :)
[05:34] <nickrud> paul_5666 now that you've learned about pasting, do    sudo dpkg -i  <vmware-server deb you downloaded>
[05:34] <tritium> jm2k: which kernel are you running?
[05:34] <jm2k> 2.6.22-14
[05:34] <Shak-> I need a little help.. I just used kernelcheck to upgrade my kernel, but I'm confused as to how to get my nvidia drivers working.. do I have to use synaptic to get a new package?
[05:34] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, his vmware has been purged yet :)
[05:34] <tritium> jm2k: you're not on hardy?
[05:34] <mikemorr> sn9_: ok. I'll unplug them and then reboot with "debug" in place of "quiet splash" (tell me if that's not the right thing to do)
[05:35] <sn9_> wtf is kernelcheck?
[05:35] <bullgard4> redct: Enjoy Ubuntu!
[05:35] <nickrud> arvind_khadri dpkg will install it directly, unlike apt skipping it if it's already installed
[05:35] <_2>           i get about 20 screen-fulls of and ending with this  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d9633ca2  in the console and dvdrip app dies,  anyone know a cure/work_around/alternative ?
[05:35] <paul_5666> arvind_khadri: its doing something ^^
[05:35] <tritium> sn9_: no need for foul acronyms, please
[05:35] <Soulwarp> !nvidia | Shak-
[05:35] <jm2k> tritium: yes, on Hardy. but when it upgraded dunno why it stuck with 2.6.22-14 kernel.
[05:35] <redct> _2: It looks like your drive is having some problems
[05:35] <redct> _2: My laptop started spitting out those errors right before the HD died
[05:35] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, oh i see...
[05:35] <Shak-> sn9_: it automates installing a kernel, check it o ut
[05:35] <sn9_> that's excessive
[05:35] <sn9_> tritium: that's excessive
[05:36] <_2> redct interesting.   did you read the post ^  ?
[05:36] <tritium> sn9_: no, I'm serious.  Please keep this family friendly.
[05:36] <_2> redct or just look at the pastebin ?
[05:36] <tritium> jm2k: is "linux-generic" not installed?  That should pull in the latest kernel.
[05:37] <paul_5666> ah, it died, i shall paste in pastebin for u the error
[05:37] <nickrud> paul_5666 yes
[05:37] <arvind_khadri> !you | paul_5666
[05:37] <jm2k> tritium: yes, its installed.
[05:37] <arvind_khadri> !u | paul_5666
[05:37] <sn9_> tritium: still uncalled fo, IMO
[05:37] <sn9_> *for
[05:37] <Shak-> ubottu: I looked through that page but I already have nvidia-glx installing, but its for the old kernel and I dont see how I can get the new drivers
[05:37] <Shak-> :/
[05:37] <nickrud> sn9_ it's policy here, totally G rated.
[05:38] <Shak-> Soulwarp: I looked through that page but I already have nvidia-glx installing, but its for the old kernel and I dont see how I can get the new drivers
[05:38] <paul_5666> arvind_khadri: ahahs ok mate,
[05:38] <paul_5666> arvind_khadri: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26376/
[05:38] <Shak-> *installed
[05:38] <krsnadasa> "cp ./iwlwifi-4965-ucode-4.44.1.20/iwlwifi-4965-1.ucode  /lib/firmware/" does that make sence to anyone ? like do i have to do anything special to use that firmware ?
[05:38] <_2> anyone ??
[05:38] <sn9_> nickrud: i have conformed to a G rating
[05:38] <mikemorr> sn9_: it seems to be getting farther than before :)
[05:38] <tritium> sn9_: drop it
[05:38] <alraune> _2:?
[05:38] <_2>           i get about 20 screen-fulls of and ending with this  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d9633ca2  in the console and dvdrip app dies,  anyone know a cure/work_around/alternative ?
[05:38] <_2> alraune   ^
[05:38] <jm2k> nickrud: does the "appropriate language policy" apply only to english or all languages? ;)
[05:39] <nickrud> jm2k the ones I speak and and curse in, ymmv
[05:39] <sn9_> jm2k: don't test it
[05:39] <LogicalDash> jm2k: the different language rooms for Ubuntu each have policies in their own language, read them
[05:39] <krsnadasa> any one ?
[05:40] <sn9_> krsnadasa: just type that
[05:40] <Jax> Hey who should i talk to for help installing ubuntu 8.04?
[05:40] <LogicalDash> Jax, this seems like a good place, but you should ask specific questions
[05:40] <sn9_> !anyone | Jax
[05:40] <alraune> _2:looks like a bad filesystem, when do you get these errors? bootup?
[05:40] <arvind_khadri> paul_5666, sudo dpkg --purge vmware-server && dpkg -i vmware-server
[05:41] <krsnadasa> sn9_: yea i did but does it just automatically use that firmware ?
[05:41] <_2> alraune just before dvdrip crashes
[05:41] <krsnadasa> sn9_: or is there some kind of command i have to use ?
[05:41] <nickrud> arvind_khadri dpkg -r
[05:41] <sn9_> krsnadasa: should
[05:41] <Soulwarp> Shak-: you may want to read the guide a bit further for the trouble shooting
[05:41] <krsnadasa> sn9_: automatically ?
[05:41] <sn9_> yes
[05:41] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, aah thats the way we purge using dpkg right??
[05:41] <Soulwarp> Shak-: there is a file you must edit if you want to enable hardware acceleration
[05:42] <mikemorr> sn9_: woot! I unplugged my USB stuff and it booted this time!
[05:42] <mikemorr> :)
[05:42] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, i had read somewhere that purge removes all the config files too...and that was the syntax
[05:42] <Jax> Does anyone/anybody know how to fix a problem i'm having........I'm trying to install ubuntu in a 2nd partion on my pc (with Xp on the other) and when i try to install it using the GUI it loads up to were i see the background screen and the window for the install info, and some weird graphic corruption or something in it to the left side, what do i need to do?
[05:42] <nickrud> arvind_khadri heh. had to go back to the man page, you're right that dpkg --purge is correct syntax
[05:43] <paul_5666> arvind_khadri: it wont purge but its trying to install now
[05:43] <sn9_> Jax: laptop or desktop?
[05:43] <sol> anyone familiar with lm-sensors?
[05:43] <paul_5666> arvind_khadri: and install just failed
[05:43] <Jax> Desktop
[05:43] <arvind_khadri> nickrud :) thank god... planning to write LPI 101 :D
[05:43]  * nickrud is leary of messing with dpkg database in vmware-server
[05:43] <sn9_> Jax: which video card?
[05:43] <Jax> nvidia 7800 GT
[05:44] <Shak-> Soulwarp: I suppose you're referring to xorg.conf? I've edited to match the correct settings, but what I think i'm missing is nvidia-glx-new for my new kernel
[05:44] <krsnadasa> sn9_: thanks
[05:44] <arvind_khadri> paul_5666, wtf ...
[05:44] <sn9_> tritium: ^^^
[05:44] <LogicalDash> Jax: one solution would be to use the alternate install disc, which lets you do the whole install in text mode
[05:44] <nickrud> paul_5666 put a copy of /var/lib/dpkg/archive/vmware.postrm  on the pastebin
[05:44]  * arvind_khadri sorry for foul language
[05:44] <krsnadasa> any one have a idea why the burn effect is glitching with a geforce 9300 ?
[05:45] <paul_5666> nickrud: ok
[05:45] <Jax> ugh.... how do i use txt mode?...... i've never used linux at all before
[05:45] <nickrud> paul_5666 sorry, the path was  /var/lib/dpkg/info/vmware.postrm
[05:45] <tritium> arvind_khadri: thanks
[05:45] <LogicalDash> Jax: Well, there are still menus and everything, you just have to use your arrow keys to navigate them
[05:45] <sn9_> Jax: have you tried "safe graphics mode" ?
[05:45] <paul_5666> nickrud: rgr
[05:45] <khin> oh hey. wtf is wrong with the time on my computer. i just upgraded to hardy and thought this problem would go away, but my time is perpetually 4 hours behind when it is supposed to be when i boot up. if i reset this and then reboot, it returns to being 4 hours behind. this is ever so vexatious!
[05:45] <Jax> oh no i haven't........ would that fix it do you thinkk?
[05:46] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, you handle it ... me out for breakfast :D will be back soon.... need to see how it has to be debugged :D
[05:46] <sn9_> Jax: one way to find out ...
[05:46] <LogicalDash> khin: is your time applet set to update from an internet time server?
[05:46] <sol> ds1621 temp sensor doesn't create sysfs dirs when used via radeonfb, anyone have a clue
[05:46] <khin> LogicalDash, no.
[05:46] <nickrud> arvind_khadri I'm gonna look at that script, but I'm not hopeful that I'll be useful
[05:46] <Jax> ok.... now i need to leave and restart my pc to try it..........
[05:46] <Jax> if i'm not back it worked!
[05:46] <Soulwarp> Shak-: which one are you using now?
[05:46] <sn9_> khin: change your timezone and/or UTC setting
[05:46] <Soulwarp> Shak-: new?
[05:47] <paul_5666> thx for ur help arvind_khadri
[05:47] <paul_5666> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26378/
[05:47] <Shak-> Soulwarp: kernel 2.6.25
[05:47] <arvind_khadri> paul_5666, welcome :)
[05:47] <chalcedony> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26377/ this is nuts!
[05:47] <Soulwarp> Shak-: i mean the graphics driver
[05:47] <khin> Wow this is bizarre, I just clicked on "Adjust date and time" and the time became correct, even though I did not unlock it using the admin pass
[05:48] <Shak-> Soulwarp: 169.12
[05:48] <sn9_> chalcedony: walnuts or cashews?
[05:48] <sol> walnuts and cashews
[05:48] <nickrud> paul_5666 ah crap, you used alien on an rpm!
[05:48] <datawar> hi all. (sorry for long msg) i'm trying to figure out how to prevent rhythmbox from launching when I plug in an mp3 player. disabling it as the preferred multimedia app didn't work, and don't see anything relevant under "Removable Drives and Media" settings
[05:48] <paul_5666> yea i mentioned it at the beginning didnt i?
[05:48] <chalcedony> sn9_: i downloaded the pidgin files .. they are there.. but i'm still having problems that shouldnt happen
[05:48] <Soulwarp> Shak-: did you download the binary driver nvidia-glx?
[05:48] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, he had mentioned :D
[05:49] <nickrud> arvind_khadri missed that
[05:49] <khin> sn9_, my timezone is set to what it is supposed to be and this happens nevertheless
[05:49] <arvind_khadri> nickrud, :) thats why purge didnt work ;)
[05:49] <Berto> Hi - I just put a misspelled word into my firefox dictionary.  It's not in /firefox/g8u6rm76.default/persdict.dat  -- where might it have been entered?
[05:49] <paul_5666> nickrud: i relised i downlaoded a big RPM and was unfortunately too lazy to download the tar file as its so big
[05:49] <nickrud> paul_5666 ok, it looks like that just removes some dirs, but let me read it over some
[05:49] <sn9_> chalcedony: well, you shoudn't need to install it that way, anyway
[05:49] <chalcedony> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26375/ first part of the problem
[05:49] <Shak-> Soulwarp: yes its there, remember this was all was working until I updated my kernel from 2.6.24 to 2.6.25
[05:50] <Soulwarp> Shak-: i would reboot the computer then
[05:50] <chalcedony> sn9_: there is some bug in the pidgin in the repository they said to compile it
[05:50] <Soulwarp> Shak-: to reload the system
[05:50] <sn9_> chalcedony: "they" ?
[05:50]  * mikemorr is installing Ubuntu :)
[05:51] <chalcedony> sn9_: you're just jealous because you can't hear the voices
[05:51] <Shak-> Soulwarp: wouldn't restarting X be sufficient, but I still dont see how thats taking care of the problem because in synaptic my nvidia-glx-new is 169.12+2.6.24.13-1, and 2.6.25 isn't listed there
[05:51] <geogur> Dose any one have graphics bugs with ubuntu 8 ( I lost my 2head display option)
[05:51] <LogicalDash>  !anyone | geogur
[05:51] <nickrud> paul_5666 gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/vmware.postrm  , and on line 8 put   exit 0  . save and close, then   sudo dpkg -r vmware-server
[05:51] <sn9_> chalcedony: ask the voices to fix the problem for you ;)
[05:52] <legend2440> paul_5666: open  /var/lib/dpkg/status  and search for vmware-server and look at Status does it say partial install or failed?
[05:52] <Soulwarp> Shak-: your system is still running on the old kernel it seems, rebooting the system will start your new one
[05:52] <noneall> How to encrypt a folder in ubuntu? Wat is the software needed?
[05:52] <paul_5666> legend2440: ill do nick's advice first
[05:52] <LogicalDash> noneall: TrueCrypt
[05:52] <chalcedony> * Topic for #pidgin is: There are issues with ICQ - which are fixed in Pidgin 2.4.3 (If you compile from source, please uninstall your old version first.) || Use Pidgin 2.4.3 ||
[05:52] <owen1> what do i need to use the gem command? (for ruby development)
[05:52] <Shak-> Soulwarp: even if uname -a says 2.6.25?
[05:52] <LogicalDash> owen1: there is actually a package called "rubygems"
[05:53] <chalcedony> sn9_: see topic i pasted
[05:53] <geogur> I do have a dbus bug on install and a can not locate ASDP on boot message
[05:53] <noneall>  How to encrypt a folder in ubuntu? Wat is the software needed?
[05:53] <sn9_> chalcedony: that does not mention .deb pkgs
[05:53] <LogicalDash> noneall: I already answered your question, scroll up
[05:54] <owen1> LogicalDash: thanks.
[05:54] <paul_5666> nickrud: u do mean vmware-server not vmware?
[05:54] <Soulwarp> Shak-: i admit im no pro at tech support but if i have a problem with my kernel i reboot
[05:54] <arvind_khadri> LogicalDash, must be a troll :)
[05:54] <geogur> I think it`s time for a new vidio card
[05:54] <chalcedony> sn9_: if you follow the link .. you get to the 3 files that have to be downloaded etc
[05:54] <Soulwarp> Shak-: if you wish you can restate your problem so someone else can help you
[05:54] <sn9_> chalcedony: what link?
[05:54] <nickrud> paul_5666 yes, that's the name of the installed package, even though the deb is only 'vmware.deb' .
[05:54] <noneall>  How to encrypt a folder in ubuntu? Wat is the software needed?
[05:54] <Shak-> Soulwarp: ok
[05:55] <arvind_khadri> noneall, TrueCrypt
[05:55] <paul_5666> nickrud: so im changing vmware-server.postrm?
[05:55] <noneall> thanks!
[05:55] <sn9_> noneall: you already asked that three times, and got answered each time
[05:55] <arvind_khadri> sn9_, forget it ...
[05:55] <Shak-> I just upgraded my kernel from 2.6.24 to 2.6.25, I think I need to install new nvidia drivers though, would a manual install (as shown here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual ) be what I need to do?
[05:56] <nickrud> paul_5666 yes. That's where the error comes in, see line 11 in http://paste.ubuntu.com/26376/
[05:56] <sn9_> arvind_khadri: freenode == very laggy today
[05:56] <paul_5666> nickrud: ok, just that ur orginal command told me to edit vmware.postrm
[05:56] <datawar> any suggestions for how to disable rhythmbox from launching when I plug in an mp3 player?
[05:56] <arvind_khadri> sn9_, :) might be...have got the same lag as everyday...might be your net
[05:57] <nickrud> paul_5666 ah, good catch. typo on my part
[05:57] <noneall> how do i hide a folder in ubuntu?
[05:57] <osmosis> i have two screens, and whenever I launch quake in full screen mode...my games end up right in the middle of the two screens..half in one window, half in the other. How do I center it to just one screen for games?
[05:57] <sn9_> Shak-: why did you upgrade your kernel?
[05:58] <osmosis> noneall: Just put it where no one would look for it.
[05:58] <nickrud> noneall change the name from   folder to  .folder  (the period makes it a hidden file, except for when you say show hidden files
[05:58] <arvind_khadri> noneall, if you place (.) before the name it becomes but then its hard to delete if you want to
[05:59] <_2> hard to delete ?
[05:59] <_2> rm .blah
[05:59] <noneall> Thanks!
[05:59] <arvind_khadri> noneall, the best way is to make the folder usable only by you..remove all permissions for other... it should be dwrx------
[06:00] <sn9_> arvind_khadri: it becomes hard to delete if it starts with - not .
[06:00] <paul_5666> nickrud: ive added that line and tired the dpkg -r command but i got an error
[06:00] <_2> sn9_   rm '-blah'
[06:00] <nickrud> paul_5666 ok, pastebin that one. I didn't think this would be easy
[06:01] <sn9_> _2: won't work
[06:01] <nickrud> or rm -- -blah
[06:01] <Shak-> sn9_: added support for a wireless card
[06:01] <arvind_khadri> sn9_, sometimes it does... :)
[06:01] <sn9_> Shak-: which one?
[06:02] <Shak-> sn9_: centrino a/g/n
[06:02] <xtknight> osmosis, do you have an nvidia card?
[06:02] <paul_5666> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26380/
[06:02] <_2> sn9   rm -- -blah
[06:02] <sn9_> Shak-: iwlwifi?
[06:02] <_2> sorry nickrud was on it and i didn't see.
[06:03] <khin> i figured out what the problem was with phpmyadmin ... it was using the wrong directory to load the mysql.so file
[06:03] <Shak-> sn9_: yup
[06:03] <khin> i just changed the directory in the php.ini file and it works fine
[06:03] <nickrud> paul_5666 ah, progress.  Now,   sudo dpkg -r --force-reinstreq vmware-server
[06:03] <sn9_> Shak-: couldn't that be backported?
[06:03] <freakabcd> hi all
[06:03] <freakabcd> anyone here use octave?
[06:03] <xtknight> Shak-, yes a manual nvidia install is needed.  latest nvidias have support for 2.6.25
[06:04] <xtknight> Shak-, i am using 2.6.26-rc9 with nvidia now
[06:04] <paul_5666> nickrud: check the command. its saying -reinstreq is wrong
[06:04] <DIL> sn9_: fyi on workgroup names -i had to get into samba and chnage the workgroup name
[06:04] <paul_5666> nickrud: is it two dashes?
[06:04] <untraceable> can anyone tell me where kppp and kppplogview are located at in ubuntu
[06:04] <nickrud> paul_5666   one dash, all one word, no space between force and - and reinstreq
[06:04] <xtknight> osmosis, well if so do   in the Device section of xorg.conf :   Option    "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "false"
[06:04] <khin> question: why does ubuntu seemingly never need drivers
[06:04] <sn9_> DIL: it's in the graphocal prefs
[06:04] <noneall> how can i speed up internet in ubuntu?
[06:04] <paul_5666> nickrud: righto
[06:04] <khin> whereas when doing an xp install on a vista machine, for instance, you inevitably need them
[06:05] <Flannel> khin: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for that
[06:05] <paul_5666> nickrud: ﻿dpkg -r --force-reinstreq vmware-server
[06:05] <Shak-> xtknight: are you using 173.14.09?
[06:05] <nickrud> paul_5666 yes
[06:05] <xtknight> khin, the kernel has drivers either embedded in something called "initrd" or as modules.  the kernel enumerates all devices in your computer using the PCI Configuration Space and loads appropriate drivers via a file called pcimap
[06:05] <sn9_> khin: is that a rhetorical question?
[06:05] <freakabcd> khin, because open source drivers exist? and they can be included with the operating system?
[06:05] <paul_5666> nickrud: its saying its not a recognised force/refuse option
[06:05] <xtknight> Shak-, i am
[06:05] <LogicalDash> noneall, you can buy a better internet connection. Sorry.
[06:05] <noneall> :-(
[06:06] <Shak-> xtknight: alright cool, just gonna restart X now to install, brb
[06:06] <xtknight> !info kppp | untraceable
[06:06] <DIL> can a share be given to a drive rather that a folder
[06:06] <nickrud> paul_5666 sorry, it's late and I'm not thinking.  sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq vmware-server
[06:06] <paul_5666> nickrud: nps mate.
[06:06] <sn9_> noneall: you can deactivate ipv6
[06:06] <xtknight> untraceable, kppplogview is here too.  you can see that by typing kppplogview in the terminal, and it will tell you which package to install
[06:06] <noneall> how to do it?
[06:07] <Flannel> DIL: partitions are mounted at folders, so if you mount one and share that folder, yes.
[06:07] <paul_5666> nickrud: it worked its saying its gone
[06:07] <sn9_> noneall: about:config in firefox
[06:07] <DIL> Flannel: ty
[06:07] <nickrud> paul_5666 ok, now we need to make sure we remove all traces.
[06:08] <nickrud> paul_5666 http://paste.ubuntu.com/26378/ , lines 30 & 31. make sure all those directories get deleted
[06:08] <Shoopuf> xtknight: Hi! I solved my "login screen" problem yesterday. I had to change my monitor model to "Generic LCD Panel 1280x1024" ... I guess it didnt like me setting my monitor to "Samsung 730b (analog)" !
[06:08] <untraceable> well i used the add/remove option and searched it and tried to download it and it said does not support your computer so i was going to try to import from a flash drive
[06:08] <xtknight> Shoopuf, very interesting and confusing!
[06:08] <noneall> about:config lists a lot of things
[06:08] <xtknight> Shoopuf, sounds like a bug to me...
[06:08]  * mikemorr is now a proud new Ubuntu user! :) Thanks for your help everyone!!
[06:08] <khin> freakabcd so... windows for instance doesn't include drivers because ms is too stupid to use open source?
[06:08] <xtknight> Shoopuf, but changing to that may have changed something other than just the "Name" of the monitor... i dont know
[06:09] <epamek_> anybody in here running EVE with wine?
[06:09] <LogicalDash> noneall: I recall there was a firefox extension called FasterFox that purported to speed up your internet access. I'm not sure if it actually worked.
[06:09] <freakabcd> khin, #ubuntu-offtopic and we resume the discussion there
[06:09] <nickrud> !ot | khin freakabcd
[06:09] <xtknight> does anyone else experience a messy volume control implementation in ubuntu?  if i slide the volume control it will want to go down to 0 here and there.. same thing happens in gnome-volume-control and with my keyboard keys, it is even worse
[06:09] <nickrud> sorry freakabcd
[06:09] <freakabcd> no worries
[06:09] <Shoopuf> xtknight: YES I get that too
[06:09] <xtknight> so what all happened to the volume control
[06:09] <geogur> mikemorr i know a mikemorr wher you @
[06:10] <noneall> Okay!
[06:10] <zcat[1]> isn't fasterfox a fork of firefox?
[06:10] <Shoopuf> xtknight: I am completely unable to change my volume at all. When I slide the vertical volume sliders they jump from max-position to min-position of the slider... Also the "stereo chain" breaks and it's sluggish.
[06:10] <xtknight> zcat[1], swiftfox is.  fasterfox is a plugin for firefox
[06:10] <xtknight> Shoopuf, exactly
[06:10] <xtknight> Shoopuf, i press vol down and my left channel is muted
[06:10] <xtknight> crazy thing
[06:10] <xtknight> it used to work lo
[06:10] <zcat[1]> btw my daughter now games under the nick 'iceweasel' ;)
[06:10] <xtknight> lol
[06:11] <nickrud> zcat[1] you should suggest she be original (although the name sounds deadly :)
[06:11] <xtknight> Shoopuf, what audio card do you have?  i have one w/ cmipci module
[06:11] <Shoopuf> xtknight: I first encountered the problem a year ago when first trying Ubuntu. But the problem still persists until today. Maybe we can file a bug report or something?
[06:11] <mikemorr> geogur: Michigan. I'm active on MusicBrainz also.
[06:11] <zcat[1]> hehe, it's a cool nick I think
[06:11] <_2> ok if i have  libdvdcss libdvdnav libdvdread  already install why am i not able to watch/copy some dvd's ?
[06:12] <sn9_> zcat[1]: icemink
[06:12] <xtknight> Shoopuf, yea i am looking for a bug
[06:12] <xtknight> report
[06:12] <_2> what am i missing guys ?
[06:12] <Shoopuf> xtknight: Umm, it's audio built into my motherboard... CMEDIA or something
[06:12] <xtknight> Shoopuf, ah i have cmedia too.  could be a cmedia tihng
[06:12] <Shoopuf> _2: Got the restricted DVD drivers?
[06:12] <nickrud> _2 some of the newer dvd's have an improved usage of the encryption
[06:12] <LogicalDash> _2: well, have you enabled the Medibuntu repositories?
[06:12] <_2> nickrud so only time will fix this ?
[06:13] <Shoopuf> xtknight: If you do find a bug report or want to file one please let me know I'll back you up or whatever... We should really notify them or something. I've thought of buying a cheap $15 Sound Blaster.
[06:13] <geogur> cool i thought i might know you i am in kitchener ontario and know 3 mikemorr`s
[06:13] <sn9_> _2: you're missing a compatible player, like vlc
[06:13] <paul_5666> nickrud: done mate
[06:13] <Shak-> xtknight: wonderful it worked, two questions though - can I reinstall nvidia-settings to get the x server settings gui program back, and would there be any problems using this driver on older kernels
[06:13] <xtknight> Bug 126333, 158590
[06:13] <_2> Shoopuf and LogicalDash what part of my question did you miss
[06:13] <_2> sn9_ nope.  have vlc and mplayer as well as several others
[06:13] <Resnick> Hello everyone. I have a bit of a strange problem. I am trying to play a movie on the DVD drive (/media/cdrom1) and I recieve an error from gxine "Error reading from DVD". I haven't touched a thing, and the icon even appears on the desktop as usual. (xine gives me "cannot be read" errors)
[06:13] <nickrud> _2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652528
[06:14] <sn9_> _2: what happens when you use vlc?
[06:14] <xtknight> Shak-, i guess we will reply to tohse bugs
[06:14] <_2> nickrud thanks  looking.
[06:14] <xtknight> they are already confirmed, anyway
[06:14] <nickrud> paul_5666 now,  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/vmware* , see if there's anything there
[06:14] <xtknight> Shak-, i am sorry, i meant Shoopuf
[06:14] <Shak-> its funny, you gave two bugs, and I had two questions :P
[06:14] <zcat[1]> Resnick: sounds like libdvdcss2 might be missing..
[06:15] <xtknight> Shak-, this driver will work with other kernels, but you need to recompile it inside thoose other kernels
[06:15] <_2> sn9 http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1bb5234d  <<<< same error output and dvdrip crashes.   vlc cant play it...
[06:15] <xtknight> Shak-, nvidia-settings comes with the NVIDIA .sh package
[06:15] <paul_5666> nickrud: yea theres stuff in here
[06:15] <zcat[1]> (wild stab in dark..)
[06:15] <Resnick> zcat[1]: It's strange as it was all up and running earlier. I will give it a shot.
[06:15] <Shak-> xtknight: so basically running the NVIDIA installer sh again?
[06:15] <sn9_> _2: disc is scratched or dirty
[06:15] <leo_> so we are selling ubuntu at Best buy now huh could be a good way to get it to the masses
[06:15] <xtknight> Shak-, again hmmm...well nvidia-settings does not already exist?
[06:16] <Shoopuf> xtknight: Should I create an account and reply that I am having the same problem?
[06:16] <Shak-> xtknight: it does if I type it from a terminal, need to figure out how to get it back in the Administration menu
[06:16] <xtknight> Shoopuf, if you want.  at this point, it's clear the bugs are confirmed and us replying wont really do much
[06:16] <nickrud> paul_5666 I think I'll suggest leaving that in place, messing with it could be a problem. Since there are no vmware-server debs available they won't come into play, and should be replaced automatically by any vmware-server deb that does appear.
[06:16] <nika> tok.............tok...............
[06:16] <alraune> _2:looks like a new format or even a special hardware to play it...  dead medium
[06:16] <Shak-> xtknight: I think a restart might fix it but I'm not too worried about it
[06:16] <_2> sn9_ ok,  but it plays ok in the dvd player connected to the teli
[06:17] <paul_5666> nickrud: ok ill try and run apt-get update or something?
[06:17] <xtknight> Shak-, oh i see.. huh, well ubuntu's nvidia settings shortcut does not work anyway because it is not run in root mode
[06:17] <sn9_> _2: dirty lens?
[06:17] <xtknight> add one your own to do "gksu nvidia-settings", right click on applications and do Edit Menu
[06:17] <_2> alraune yeah new encription im thinking
[06:17] <nickrud> paul_5666 yes, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:17] <zcat[1]> nvidia-settings seems to be in it's own package, not part of nvidia-glx or whatever the nonfree fricers are called
[06:17] <_2> sn9_ no.
[06:17] <zcat[1]> *drivers
[06:17] <xtknight> zcat[1], that is true for the restricted drivers.  for the .sh off nvidia.com, nvidia-settings is installed
[06:17] <sn9_> _2: try it in windows
[06:18] <zcat[1]> sxcuse my typing, cat bit my finger today.. hole right through the nail.. a bit sore still
[06:18] <Shoopuf> xtknight: So what can we do to change our volume? :( Someone told me to download "aumix" but that doesn't work.
[06:18] <alraune> _2:what a kind of players could you watch it on ?
[06:18] <phpcurious> hi, need help here...
[06:18] <_2> sn9_ i don't do windows
[06:18] <xtknight> Shoopuf, switch mixer to OSS
[06:18] <zcat[1]> didn't want his worm tablet..
[06:18] <sn9_> Shoopuf: alsamixer, not aumix
[06:18] <Resnick> zcat[1]: It did something :) It's pretty garbled, but it's a start.
[06:18] <phpcurious> how do i upgrade ubuntu gutsy gibbon? update manager can't connect to download server.
[06:18] <_2> alraune i'd have to go down stairs to look at the brand name.
[06:18] <geogur> isn`t window`s a bad word here?
[06:18] <zcat[1]> or in lolcat "do not want!"
[06:18] <xtknight> Shoopuf, at least it works with the volume applet but my keys are still messed up
[06:19] <sn9_> _2: then, i guess we'll never know
[06:19] <xtknight> i dont even know if i could make something so malfunctioning if i tried
[06:19] <xtknight> lol
[06:19] <_2> sn9_ never know what ?
[06:19] <nickrud> zcat[1] thanks for the reminder, haven't been there in a few days ;)
[06:19] <Shoopuf> haha i just hit the volume up key on my keyboard and the little bar went up, then next press just down, then jumped up again (erratic)
[06:19] <_2> sn9_  if windows could have played it,  i have no doubt it could.
[06:19] <sn9_> _2: why it doesn't work
[06:19] <paul_5666> nickrud: excellent work! its working superbly :D
[06:19] <zcat[1]> me neither.. afk
[06:20] <alraune> _2 :lol  so noboby can acces your tv station, hehehe
[06:20] <_2> sn9_ i think we know.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652528  <<<
[06:20] <nickrud> paul_5666 great.
[06:20] <amonkey_> what kernel flavor should i use with a core 2 quad to enable pae (not all my ram is showing up under generic)
[06:20]  * paul_5666 is happy
[06:20] <Shak-> xtknight: ok all good now, btw do you see any performance differences with this driver comapred to 169.12? and one more question, how often do you update your driver?
[06:20]  * paul_5666 would also like to thank nickrud for a job well done
[06:20] <sn9_> amonkey_: just install the 64bit edition
[06:21] <xtknight> i think only the Xen kernel has PAE
[06:21] <_2> alraune did you look at    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652528  ?
[06:21] <nickrud> paul_5666 alien is a monster that will rip up the guts of your machine ... oh, you're ripley, you now have experience :)
[06:21] <Resnick> zcat[1]: Alright. Thanks for that tip. I got the css2 package and it worked a treat.
[06:21] <epamek_> anybody her using eve?
[06:21] <xtknight> Shak-, not sure.  i dont game.  i update often though for 2d/video
[06:21] <alraune> _2 :just on
[06:21] <amonkey_> sn9_, do you mean the amd64 version? can i use apt-get to upgrade to that or do i have to reinstall?
[06:21] <sn9_> amonkey_: reinstall
[06:21] <paul_5666> i shall never user alien again, but i blame the ISPs in australia or counting downloads.
[06:21] <paul_5666> *for
[06:22] <zcat[1]> Resnick: yeah, unfortunately it doesn't give you a nice 'no dvdcss' error.. it just acts broken. not sure if this could be fixed in later ubuntu's but it would be nice to see a more specific error message
[06:22] <vexati0n> i thought the GNOME in 8.04 was supposed to include a "pause large file transfers" option :/
[06:22] <_2> nickrud thanks for the heads up  on the new encryption/copy_protection
[06:22] <sn9_> paul_5666: take a trip to portugal; i hear it's much worse there
[06:23] <paul_5666> sn9_: is it now? theres a monopoly here in australia
[06:23] <xzedn2> for some reason midi doesn't work
[06:23] <xzedn2> all other sound does, though
[06:23] <Shady> howdy folks
[06:23] <Jax> Hey i got my Ubuntu working now i love it...... i'm looking for some good a place to find some good apps and themes where should i look?
[06:23] <sn9_> paul_5666: apparently they have laws mandating download limits
[06:23] <xtknight> Jax, check out http://art.gnome.org/
[06:23] <xtknight> for themes/etc
[06:23] <geogur> themes . org
[06:24] <paul_5666> sn9_: are u serious? wow thats terrible
[06:24] <xzedn2> what about my midi?
[06:24] <xtknight> Jax,  or http://gnome-look.org
[06:24] <Shady> I am wondering if anyone can help me out a problem installing Ubuntu as a dual boot on a RAID0?
[06:24] <xzedn2> i usually go on gnome look
[06:24] <Jax> what about applications? i'm looking for very good Graphics/web design ones I know of gimp
[06:24] <xtknight> Shady, yea i have done that
[06:24] <Shoopuf_brb_coff> !midi | xzedn2
[06:24] <xzedn2> thanks
[06:25] <xtknight> Jax, inkscape for a Vector/illustrator-like application.  it is great.
[06:25] <xtknight> Jax, sudo apt-get install inkscape
[06:25] <Jax> sudo apt?
[06:25] <xtknight> Jax, that's a command you type in the Terminal, accessible via Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[06:25] <xtknight> sudo apt-get is a tool that allows you to manage applications installed or not installed on your computer
[06:26] <xtknight> you can install software from an online database, or manage apps you have installed from that same database
[06:26] <sn9_> xzedn2: i wrote significant chunks of that wiki page at one point
[06:26] <Shady> cool xtknight my problem is that i tried installing ubuntu but when it gets to the part of partitioning the drive, it is seeing my separate 250gb drives instead of the RAID array
[06:26] <Jax> oh..........noob question......what other programs can i get using that?
[06:26] <xtknight> Shady, oh are you using a RAID chipset instead of Software raid?
[06:26] <alraune> _2 :(lol  so noboby can acces your tv station, hehehe)  seems like some artists don't wanna be heared until you buy a whole landscape,  for now ( will sleep soon), want some good tv-sites ??
[06:26] <Shady> yes
[06:27] <xtknight> Shady, ok i might suggest sticking with software raid.  it'll be a lot easier to manage
[06:27] <Shoopuf_brb_coff> Jax: Tons of stuff... There's probably a better way to see the list, but I go to "System Menu > Administration Menu > Synaptic Package Manager" to view a lost of the available downloads.
[06:27] <xtknight> Shady,  contrary to belief, the software raid will be as fast because most on-board RAID chipsets still use the CPU anyway.
[06:27] <sn9_> Shady: also, software raid is more efficient
[06:27] <_2> alraune ?
[06:28] <_2> must be something lost in the translation.
[06:28] <alraune> _2 :?!
[06:28] <Shady> xtknight, ok i even tried to use Partition Manager to break it up but it never actually made the partition, it just did nothing
[06:28] <xtknight> Shady, you will have to dissociate the drives from your RAID controller or install them as JBOD ("Just A Bunch Of Disks"(nonraid) to the controller)
[06:28] <sn9_> _2: did you read the rest of that dvd thread?
[06:29] <Shady> sn9_, i have never used a software RAID, so not sure what to think about it lol
[06:29] <_2> sn9_ i didn't read every word,   but i read most of it.
[06:29] <xtknight> software raid5 has successfully saved my data in a drive failure over the past week :)
[06:29] <YuriQ> is there a way to index all the documentation installed under /usr/share/doc to be searchable?
[06:29] <_2> sn9_ says there is a patch out.
[06:29] <sn9_> _2: yep
[06:30] <_2> sn9_  yeah i got that.
[06:30] <xtknight> YuriQ, try apropos or man -k
[06:30] <Shady> xtknight, so basically if i want to use my RAID setup, I still have to lose everything and reinstall OS's?
[06:30] <xtknight> Shady, you can not use windows on a linux software raid
[06:30] <YuriQ> no, I mean things like the ruby and python documentation
[06:30] <xtknight> Shady, it will have to be on a separate 'drive'
[06:31] <YuriQ> /usr/share/doc/python25/html
[06:31] <xtknight> YuriQ, these aren't in apropos?
[06:31] <Shoopuf_brb_coff> Shady: I find that partitioning from the Partition Manager stinks... I usually use a System Restore CD and use the Partition Manager from there.... http://sourceforge.net/projects/systemrescuecd/
[06:31] <sn9_> Shady: you can also raid only part of the drive, if you want
[06:31] <alraune> _2 :thank you for pushing my education (no jerk, too) n8
[06:31] <YuriQ> well, the source is in HTML
[06:31] <xtknight> Shady, you need the Alternate CD to use Software raid
[06:31] <FAJALOU> shady:  gparted works wonders too.
[06:31] <xtknight> YuriQ, ohh i see
[06:31] <YuriQ> I am not sure apropos indexes html
[06:32] <xtknight> no, it doesn't.  my mistake
[06:32] <ifireball> YuriQ: there are quite a few command line text search engines you can install, run a search for "search" in synaptic...
[06:32] <xtknight> YuriQ, i would assume though that python has an online, searchable Help
[06:32] <_2> alraune ;)
[06:32] <chalcedony> YuriQ: i like lynx (you can tweak the colors) or try links too but i dont' like it as well
[06:32] <YuriQ> yea, I am trying to set myself to work in disconnected mode
[06:32] <Shoopuf_brb_coff> How do you search synaptic from the command line?
[06:33] <xtknight> Shoopuf_brb_coff, apt-cache search pkgname
[06:33] <YuriQ> so basically, looking for a desktop search engine, but something better than trackerd
[06:33] <xtknight> or apt-cache search regex_expression
[06:33] <FAJALOU> YuriQ: Beagle?
[06:33] <YuriQ> separate problem, but seems my trackerd is permanently busted
[06:33] <ifireball> YuriQ: you can also try indexing the files with Tracker
[06:33] <FAJALOU> ifireball: i think it is broken for YuriQ
[06:34] <FAJALOU> YuriQ:  you could try removing the package and reinstalling it.
[06:34] <Shady> xtknight (and others helping =), I am already using XP on a RAID0 setup, AM I correct in interpreting this all to mean that in order to achieve dual boot I will have to start over and reinstall the OS's?
[06:34] <xtknight> Shady, that depends if your RAID0 has already spanned the entirety of any disk space you have left.
[06:34] <ifireball> FAJALOU: yeah, seen that only after posting
[06:35] <sn9_> forget the dual-boot, and put win and lin on separate computers
[06:35] <FAJALOU> ifireball: all good ;)
[06:35] <sn9_> Shady: ^^^
[06:35] <xtknight> sn9_, oh why do you suggest this?  bad experience with dualboot?
[06:35] <Shady> xtknight, I doubt that because i have 500GB and barley a quarter of it used
[06:36] <sn9_> xtknight: it's not practical in the given case
[06:36] <FAJALOU> shady;  not sure about RAID, but i am dualbooting fine.
[06:36] <xtknight> Shady, with the alternate disc then you can choose to create two partitions on each disk, and flag these as RAID.  you then enter the RAID (mdadm) Configuration
[06:36] <M_Cheevy> xtknight: my current desktop installation has 4 boot options it's not a probem
[06:36] <ifireball> YuriQ: you can try this: http://searchmonkey.sourceforge.net/index.php/Main_Page packages seems to be in the repos
[06:36] <Jax> hey what would you suggest for a person who wants to start programming/hacking (not cracking)
[06:36] <M_Cheevy> are you trying to set up a multi boot installation on a software RAID0 setup?
[06:36] <ifireball> Jax: learn python.
[06:36] <xtknight> Shady, you need to make sure your current raid0 partition is not allocated to the whole disk
[06:37] <sn9_> Jax: write a Hello World
[06:37] <FAJALOU> Jax:  and C++ and java
[06:37] <M_Cheevy> xtknight: not 100% true
[06:37] <Shady> xtknight, I did allocate the entire disk for the RAID
[06:37] <M_Cheevy> Shady: still not a problem.
[06:37] <galshawna> I'm having a sound problem with WoW in wine. Everything else is working fine, but I'm not getting any sound at all. Please help.
[06:37] <pist0l-fish> where is the ubuntu device manager?
[06:37] <Jax> Ok python and java......i know html already any good apps or sites for help with python and java? python first i'd think
[06:37] <M_Cheevy> Shady: there is a very good HOWTO on the ubuntu wiki on "FakeRaid" setup
[06:37] <Shoopuf> galshawna: #winehq can probably be more helpful
[06:38] <xtknight> !fakeraid  | Shady
[06:38] <geogur> at work we have a few os`s but linux gets the tough jobs and windows is always being fixed? go figure so why would you want this os at home?
[06:38] <galshawna> Shoopuf, probably would if people actually talked on that channel.
[06:38] <sn9_> galshawna: change wine's sound output module
[06:38] <galshawna> sn9_, how to do that?
[06:38] <pist0l-fish> hi there, how can i access the ubuntu device manager
[06:38] <M_Cheevy> Shady: the FakeRaidHowTo is the kicker
[06:38] <xtknight> Shady, basically, your RAID controller is called 'fakeraid'
[06:38] <sn9_> galshawna: wineconfig
[06:38] <xtknight> Shady, so in a way if you can get ubuntu to recognize your raid, you can resize down your windows paritions and install linux on the same raid controller
[06:38] <galshawna> sn9_, I'll play around with it and try to change the sound settings to see what works.
[06:39] <galshawna> sn9_, I'll be back if nothing works.
[06:39] <Shady> xtknight, and M_Cheevy; ty guys i will look into that for a while =)
[06:39] <xtknight> looks a bit involved tho i have never done it
[06:39] <M_Cheevy> Shady: it's what I used for my install, it's not that tough
[06:39] <xtknight> start into the linux world with a bang :)
[06:40] <Jax> ifireball: do you know a good site/book/app for learning python?
[06:40] <_2> oh crap.    would the fact that it's an i386 libdvdread package being used by an i686 kernel have any affect nickrud ?
[06:40] <xtknight> _2, i386 packages will work on i686 kernels
[06:40] <M_Cheevy> Shady: the kicker is, use the live cd, use synaptic to get 'dmraid', use the installer, just be VERY careful when you're setting up your partitions, read that part VERY carefully, then the only other issue is setting up Grub, and that's not that bad either
[06:40] <nickrud> _2 no i386 is a subset of i686
[06:40] <xtknight>  i686 is i386 with some extensions but compatible all the way
[06:40] <Shady> xtknight and M_Cheevy, would you suggest that I dissolve the RAID and just use the 2 disks seperately, partitioning one for both file systems and partitioning the other for their respectives storages?
[06:40] <_2> nickrud i'm on dapper.
[06:41] <nolroz> Im Drunk!
[06:41] <sn9_> _2: in ubuntu, i386 just means 32bit -- it won't actually run on a 386
[06:41] <nolroz> and I still love root!
[06:41] <xtknight> lol
[06:41] <nickrud> _2 shouldn't make a diff
[06:41] <M_Cheevy> Shady: no need to get rid of the RAID, it's not that hard to get Hardy to install on a fakeraid setup
[06:41] <ifireball> Jax: http://www.python.org/
[06:41] <Shak-> xtknight: ok just discovered a new problem on this new kernel, my sound devices are no longer detected, did you have this issue too?
[06:41] <xtknight> Shak-, yeah sadly
[06:41] <xtknight> Shak-, but i got around it
[06:41] <_2> nickrud ok.  just noticed that the arch type differed...   didn't want to cause a conflict there.
[06:41] <Shak-> ah, packages on synaptic?
[06:42] <xtknight> Shak-, i had to compile ALSA support again.  so yup that means going 'make xconfig' and selecting all the alsa stuff, and then 'make' in the kernel tree and 'sudo make modules_install'
[06:42] <nickrud> _2 sn9_ actually had the truest answer, anyway :)
[06:42] <xtknight> Shak-, i tried alsa off of alsaproject but it wouldnt even compile
[06:42] <Shady> M_Cheevy: any idea why the commercial product Partition Manager had no effect on partitioning the setup?
[06:43] <Jax> ifireball: thanks does that site have a irc channel for help?
[06:43] <xtknight> ubuntu's GUI installer has no support for raid of any kind
[06:43] <Shak-> xtknight: whoa do you mean I have to recompile the kernel?
[06:43] <xtknight> Shak-, you have to recompile a portion of it.
[06:43] <xtknight> and you can rebuild the deb package
[06:43] <xtknight> you're basically adding a little patch to it
[06:43] <Shak-> hmm
[06:43] <TetRaveX> does any1 knows asterisk?
[06:43] <xtknight> i was able to do this successfully
[06:43] <xtknight> !info asterisk
[06:43] <xtknight> not me hehe
[06:44] <M_Cheevy> Shady: yeah, fakeraid requires a driver for software to see the raid array as anything but separate disks.  Partition Manager, Acronis, Paragon, etc, all boot from CD or from temp partitions, and rarely include any special drivers
[06:45] <M_Cheevy> xtknight: yes, you're right, but if you install dmraid, and run that, you can use the installer as long as you manually setup Grub, and be VERY careful with the partition editor
[06:45] <Shak-> xtknight: hmm I'm gonna need step by steps for this :/ 'make xconfig' where do I do that?
[06:45] <xtknight> Shak-, ok how did you recompile your kernel originally?
[06:45] <xtknight> Shak-, or, why?
[06:45] <xtknight> no offense there may be an alternative
[06:46] <sn9_> xtknight: hardware driver
[06:46] <Shak-> xtknight: to get support for a wireless card, I used kernelcheck, but everything it did I could do manually
[06:46] <bullgard4> [GNOME] What is the name of the small window which appears in the middle of the screen if you press Alt+Tab and do not use Compiz?
[06:46] <xtknight> Shak-, did you try compat-wireless-2.6?  this has support for many wireless devices without the need to recompile the kernel
[06:46] <M_Cheevy> bullgard: task switcher?
[06:46] <xtknight> Shak-, also what wireless card?
[06:47] <sn9_> xtknight: iwlwifi
[06:47] <FAJALOU> Shak-: why not just use ndiswraper?
[06:47] <xtknight> compat-wireless-2.6 is basically the new kernel's wireless support built for the old kernel, afaik
[06:47] <Jax> ifireball: noob question agian were do i start typing code for python at? is there a special app in ubuntu/
[06:47] <Resnick> I am having a bit of trouble with my logitech cam. It's to do with the instability timing bug in the uvcvideo module. There is a patch but "The patches are not officially maintained and therefore don't cleanly apply to the latest version of the UVC driver. They may therefore need some tweaking." Is there a place I can get help modifying the patch?
[06:47] <Horky_Chen> how to open ports in Ubuntu
[06:47] <xtknight> Horky_Chen, ubuntu by default has all ports open
[06:48] <[Iggy]> what?
[06:48] <sn9_> xtknight: that's a mean thing to say
[06:48] <xtknight> :)
[06:48] <Shak-> xtknight: I tried compat-wireless-2.6, the thing is this needs alot of kernel-specific patches whch is why I compiled 2.6.25, but even if there is an alternative I might as well plough through here and learn something new
[06:48] <Horky_Chen> but XChat says my 6666 port is closed
[06:48] <[Iggy]> that's because port 6666 is evil
[06:48] <xtknight> i should say, all ports unblocked
[06:49] <Shak-> xtknight: but basically I used this guide to compile the kernel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[06:49] <xtknight> Shak-, ah i see
[06:49] <xtknight> Shak-, i used the same guide
[06:49] <xtknight> Shak-, so you have a /usr/src/linux-2.6.25?
[06:49] <theRealBall> yo
[06:49] <FAJALOU> !hi | theRealBall
[06:49] <Horky_Chen> Iggy, so cannot use 6666 port? ^_^
[06:49] <Shak-> xtknight: yup
[06:49] <xtknight> Shak-, alright.  go in there, and do "sudo -s"
[06:49] <sn9_> [Iggy]: that'd an extra 6
[06:50] <Shak-> k
[06:50] <xtknight> Shak-, compat-wireless-2.6 worked right off for me with 2.6.24(however i wanted ath5k, maybe yours doesnt work)
[06:50] <_2> all ports open but nothing listening on any of them ?
[06:50] <xtknight> yea
[06:51] <sn9_> Horky_Chen: if you are running an irc SERVER, it will open the port for you
[06:51] <esac> full screen flash videos are really really choppy on my system. any ideas?
[06:51] <xtknight> esac, they were on mine as well even with accelerated video drivers.  altho other videos played fine.
[06:51] <sn9_> esac: run fewer processes
[06:51] <xtknight> i think it's a Flash specific bug
[06:51] <Horky_Chen> sn9_, but I just want to join one IRC roon in EFNet
[06:52] <sn9_> Horky_Chen: then try a different efnet server
[06:52] <xtknight> Shak-, ok so in /usr/src/linux-2.6.25 in rootmode?
[06:52] <FAJALOU> Horky_Chen: I am on EFNet through efnet.demon.co.uk
[06:52] <_2> Horky_Chen you only join the channels you want on irc    any server.
[06:52] <Horky_Chen> sn9_, I will try. But can I open the port direct?
[06:52] <xtknight> client ports need not be opened
[06:52] <Shak-> xtknight: yup, I ran make xconfig, select ALSA stuff now?
[06:52] <sn9_> Horky_Chen: with efnet, you just have to keep trying until you find a server that works
[06:52] <xtknight> er, 'unblocked'
[06:53] <Horky_Chen> OK
[06:53] <esac> sn9_: appreciate the advice, but fewer processes mean nothing. i could have 1000 processes sitting in a sleep loop, what matters is cpu utilization which is ~15%, and windows plays flash videos fine fullscreen at 50% cpu
[06:53] <xtknight> Shak-, yea make sure you know which driver your device uses
[06:53] <esac> xtknight: same here, other videos are fine, just flash. i was thinking of checking out flash10 beta to see if it improves
[06:53] <xtknight> Shak-, enable ADvanced Linux Sound Arch
[06:53] <sn9_> esac: you're lucky it's not gnash -- that would hog even more
[06:53] <[Iggy]> Shak-, that Kernel Check thing looks pretty cool, thanks for the link
[06:53] <xtknight> ..if it even worked
[06:53] <xtknight> ;)
[06:53] <xtknight> (gnash)
[06:54] <Shak-> [Iggy]: yep it did it all start to finish with one click
[06:54] <xzedn2> mixing midi was very easy
[06:54] <khin> does anyone know why the hwclock command would fail
[06:54] <xtknight> khin, how does it fail?
[06:54] <khin> i get ... select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out
[06:54] <xzedn2> *fixing
[06:54] <xzedn2> thanks for the help
[06:54] <Jax> hey quick questions how do you get to a spot to code python??.....
[06:54] <xtknight> khin, not sure, try with sudo?
[06:54] <sn9_> khin: genrtc module not loaded?
[06:54] <esac> sn9_: i couldnt really care how much cpu it uses if it plays them fine. the scheduler should be decent enough to allow you to run at anything less than 100% cpu and not worry about system slowdowns
[06:54] <xtknight> Jax, #pthon
[06:54] <xtknight> #python even ?
[06:54] <esac> sn9_: assuming a decent scheduler :)
[06:54] <Jax> thanks
[06:55] <Shak-> xtknight: k, just gimme a sec to find it
[06:55] <xtknight> Shak-, ok also there is a searh function if you were unaware
[06:55] <xtknight> search*
[06:56] <ferric> hi.  i have an ubuntu box, that is most likely coming up fine but no display, is there any way I can connect my mac to this box and use it over ethernet without a display?
[06:56] <sn9_> esac: blame adobe's product strategy
[06:56] <Flannel> ferric: of course.  install openssh-server
[06:56] <sn9_> ferric: absolutely
[06:56] <ferric> but I can't even ssh into the box...
[06:57] <ferric> (no display, so i can't see what's going on)
[06:57] <sn9_> haha
[06:57] <xtknight> how did you install it then
[06:57] <Flannel> ferric: clrl-alt-f1, login, password, sudo apt-get install openssh-server, y
[06:57] <Shak-> xtknight: ok which mixers do I pick here?
[06:57] <ferric> ah, i need a keyboard
[06:57] <ferric> i think i have that
[06:57] <xtknight> lol
[06:57] <ferric> xtknight: i used to have a display. :-)
[06:57] <xtknight> Shak-, what sound card do you have?
[06:57] <PorkSoda> Any one have any idea why after upgrading to 8.04 my them will not "stick" when I set it?
[06:57] <PorkSoda> ..
[06:57] <Jax> ifireball: Is there an IRC for python? and another questions what app do i need open to code?
[06:57] <xtknight> ferric, ahh i see hehe
[06:58] <xtknight> i am curious about these things that's alll
[06:58] <PorkSoda> After upgrading, it reset my old theme/icon settings etc
[06:58] <ferric> ok, well i changed my network name to see if it will connect to the wireless, and it doesn't seem to.
[06:58] <mistform> headchange
[06:58] <Shak-> xtknight: sound card? hmm I suppose its builtin, Im using a laptop
[06:58] <xtknight> Shak-, type lspci and pastebin
[06:59] <PorkSoda> Any one heard of theme and iconset problems after upgrading to heron?
[06:59] <xtknight> or if you can identify the sound paste the one line here
[06:59] <mistform> Shak-, whats up? search for audio after typing lspci
[06:59] <ferric> perhaps its not botting up correctly...
[06:59] <xtknight> ferric, i am not sure if it helps, but what wireless card does it have?
[06:59] <ferric> er, booting up
[06:59] <Shak-> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[06:59] <ferric> xtknight: an atheros chipset, that works for sure. since it worked earlier.
[06:59] <mistform> Shak-, or you could type "asoundconf list"
[07:00] <dyf> hello
[07:00] <ferric> Flannel: btw, i've sshd' in before, which means openssh-server is installed, yes?
[07:00] <xtknight> ferric, ok so ath0 or wlan0 or something.  well  essentially you can do "sudo iwconfig ath0 essid net_name" and then "sudo dhclient ath0" to get wireless network in the TTY consol.e
[07:00] <mistform> herro, dyf
[07:00] <xtknight> first sudo cmd, of course, will require a pw ;)
[07:00] <Shak-> how do you folks memorize the names of all these settings binaries :p
[07:00] <ferric> hah
[07:00] <xtknight> Shak-, constant frustration with them
[07:00] <xtknight> hehe
[07:00] <ferric> xtknight: good idea, let me go find that keyboard
[07:00] <mistform> Shak-, yes. I actually just barely learned this stuff yesterday :)
[07:01] <xtknight> Shak-, ok maybe you use hd audio?  you might want to check the alsa project site's Sound Cards list
[07:01] <xtknight> for the modulen ame
[07:01] <mistform> Shak-, what came up when you typed "asoundconf list"
[07:01] <xtknight> i think he is in a kernel without alsa currently
[07:01] <Shak-> yeah, nothign came up
[07:02] <mistform> what did it say? it didn't list anything?
[07:02] <tyler_> i got banned
[07:02] <tyler_> [24.170.49.156 was my ip
[07:02] <ferric> heh ok, i don't think i'm even getting a console, i just tried rebooting, and it didn't work
[07:02] <mistform> Shak-, nothing like "Names of available sound cards:"
[07:03] <ferric> if i physically plug an ethernet cable in to the mac and the other end to the ubuntu box, is it going to autodetect dhcp?
[07:03] <xtknight> Shak-, i think you use "snd-hda-intel".  find hda intel driver in the 'make xconfig' and enable it
[07:03] <Shak-> mistform: nothing, it just went to the next terminal line
[07:03] <mistform> wth
[07:03] <xtknight> ferric, you have to set static ips for crossover connections AFAIK
[07:03] <xtknight> mistform, he has no ALSA module
[07:03] <[Iggy]> you may also need a crossover cable
[07:03] <xtknight> that is true
[07:04] <mistform> xtknight, get him to install it lol
[07:04] <xtknight> and if your driver can automatically remap pins, good luck
[07:04] <xtknight> ;P
[07:04] <xtknight> mistform, yup trying he recompiled 2.6.25
[07:04] <ferric> xtknight: ah.  so it needs ifconfig on the linux box.
[07:04] <ferric> ok, i guess i better get a display then.
[07:04] <xtknight> ferric, "sudo ifconfig ifname ip 192.168.x.x"
[07:04] <xtknight> ferric, does your mac have an external display or is it builtin
[07:05] <ferric> xtknight: right, but i don't even know if i'm at the linux console or stuck in some fsck looop :)
[07:05] <xtknight> that's true
[07:05] <ferric> xtknight: it's a laptop
[07:05] <sn9_> ferric: hahahaha
[07:05] <xtknight> lol
[07:05] <ferric> sn9_: indeed.
[07:05] <mistform> ferret, User Error
[07:05] <mistform> ferric, User Error
[07:05] <xtknight> ferric, if the video card has a VIVO port, you can connect it up to the tv
[07:05] <Shak-> xtknight: ok, I enabled Intel HD Audio
[07:05] <mistform> yeah, i forgot how many nicks are in this chan
[07:05] <ferric> xtknight: oy vey.  that is a good idea.
[07:05] <ferric> i do have a mini-dvi cable
[07:05] <Shak-> xtknight: should I check aggresive power saving there too? :p
[07:06] <ferric> lemme check
[07:06] <xtknight> Shak-, probably not
[07:06] <mistform> there are 6 nicks that come up with "sha-Tab"
[07:06] <xtknight> well you need a mini-DIN
[07:06] <xtknight> if it's out of the vivo video card
[07:06] <xtknight> TTYs will show on tvout, GNOME will not, by default, AFAIK
[07:06] <xtknight> because tty is framebuffer
[07:07] <Shak-> xtknight: alrighty, we all done in xconfig?
[07:07] <xtknight> Shak-, save/exit it.  before you "make" let's check the kernel configuration.  type grep CONFIG_SND.*y .config
[07:08] <owen1> i installed git and git-core but I get this: "the filemanager with GNU Interactive Tools, is now called gitfm."
[07:08] <xtknight> Shak-,  sorry i messed that up.  grep CONFIG_SND.* .config
[07:09] <xtknight> Shak-, and see if what you need looks enabled.  you need HDA_INTEL and probably the HDA_CODEC things.  they should be =m(module) or =y(initrd).  and CONFIG_SND needs enabled
[07:09] <mistform> lol, what does that command do, xtknight ?
[07:09] <xtknight> mistform, we are searching the kernel configuration for certain properties he needs
[07:09] <phreck> anyone know anything about how emerald works with 8.04
[07:09] <mistform> xtknight, you mean like Park Place and Broadway?
[07:09] <Mr_Egg> !ltrace
[07:09] <xtknight> mistform, perhaps in a next kernel, check kernelnewbies ;)
[07:10] <xtknight> more like modules tho
[07:10] <sn9_> mistform: marvin gardens
[07:10] <xtknight> do not pass and go, do not recompile
[07:10] <xtknight> owen1, install git-core
[07:10] <mistform> lol
[07:10] <xtknight> this allows you to use the "git" repository program
[07:11] <Mr_Egg> Hi all :) I'm experiencing a printing issue with Hardy. I suspect I have a missing library. How can I best use ltrace to identify the missing library? TIA.
[07:11] <xtknight> i meant only to instal git-core actually.  i think you need to uninstall git
[07:11] <xtknight> Mr_Egg, run ldd on the application
[07:11] <Shak-> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26393/ <- looks the ones you said are all modules
[07:11] <xtknight> ldd /path/to/dynamically_linked_app  will tell you any libraries it uses, and if it can find them
[07:11] <xtknight> Shak-, looks great to me
[07:12] <xtknight> Shak-, one moment
[07:12] <xtknight> Shak-, type    "nano debian/changelog"  in /usr/src/linux-2.6.25
[07:12] <xtknight> we will have to change your kernel revision before we make a new package
[07:13] <mistform> xtknight, I'll trade your Ubuntu Hardy for my FC9
[07:13] <mistform> what would the utilities be?
[07:13] <xtknight> mistform,  fc9 wont boot on my puter , nor will opensuse10 :-(
[07:13] <mon^rch> what's the next version going to be called?
[07:13] <xtknight> !intrepid | mon^rch
[07:13] <Shak-> xtknight: ok what should I change the revision to?
[07:13] <mon^rch> tytyt
[07:13] <xtknight> Shak-, add a number to it, imo.  anything really.  like shak1
[07:14] <ansichart> Hello, I am having a problem changing my MAC address on my Atheros wifi card.  When I change it with ifconfig, it shows that it has changed... however my card will ignore anything addressed to the spoofed MAC address.
[07:14] <ansichart> I think my chipset restricts me from doing it, but I am trying to find a work-around solution for this.
[07:14] <Mr_Egg> xtknight: thanks
[07:14] <xtknight>  Shak-  following the save of debian/changelog,  do in root mode (replace 'shak1' with your revision in debian/changelog)        " make-kpkg --initrd --revision=shak1 kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image "
[07:14] <sn9_> ansichart: you need to use wlanconfig
[07:15] <xtknight> Shak-, (DONT) do make-kpkg clean
[07:15] <mistform> is there a keyboard shortcut to open terminal?
[07:15] <zcat[1]> I was thinking iwconfig
[07:15] <laza> hi
[07:15] <xtknight> youll have to recompile the whole thing
[07:15] <xtknight> mistform, set one in gnome-keybinding-properties
[07:15] <sn9_> zcat[1]: not for madwifi
[07:15] <mistform> how?
[07:15] <magnetron> ansichart, you are doing it wrong. don't use ifconfig, use the madwifi tool to create a new VAP with the desired MAC adress
[07:15] <xtknight> mistform, or you can install nautilus-open-terminal, which allows you to right click on the desktop or folders to open the terminal
[07:15] <xtknight> mistform, system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[07:16] <Shak-> xtknight: hang on, about the revison, you mean add whatever to the 2.6.25.10-ultimate-10.00.Custom right?
[07:16] <mistform> arr..!
[07:16] <xtknight> Shak-, hmm
[07:16] <xtknight> Shak-, see in the parentheses before 'unstable'?
[07:16] <mistform> how do I add a new one?
[07:16] <magnetron> !enter | xtknight
[07:16] <Shak-> xtknight: yup
[07:17] <ansichart> sn9_ Hmmm, I'll look into that.
[07:17] <xtknight> Shak-, you need to change whatever is in the parentheses.  that will be your new "revision" which you will add to the line i posted above when you execute it
[07:17] <ansichart> magnetron, I'll also look into that.
[07:17] <ansichart> thanks
[07:17] <sn9_> ansichart: install the pkg madwifi-tools
[07:17] <ansichart> Alright, thank you.
[07:17] <laza> i closed the Network Administration Tool beside the clock, on the deck by accident, now i can't see the ssids
[07:18] <laza> i want it back somehow, please help
[07:18] <xtknight> Shak-, when you set revision=, you will not include the parentheses () themselves
[07:18] <Shak-> xtknight: right, so basically the default revision is ?
[07:18] <xtknight> Shak-, "generic" i think?
[07:18] <Shak-> *'2.6.25.10-ultimate-10.00.Custom'?
[07:18] <mistform> xtknight, how do I create a new keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[07:18] <xtknight> Shak-, oh maybe it is.  can you pastebin the file?
[07:19] <xtknight> mistform, system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts, goto the "Run a terminal" entry
[07:19] <sn9_> laza: alt-f2, and type: nm-applet --sm-disable
[07:19] <newbee617> hi , when i tried to compile a software ,  after typed ./configure, an error appears: No GTKMM2.4 found . any ideas?
[07:19] <Shak-> xtknight: sure - http://paste.ubuntu.com/26394/
[07:20] <laza> sn9_: thank you!
[07:20] <london> 哪位知道如何装msn
[07:20] <xtknight> newbee617, install libgtkmm-dev
[07:20] <sn9_> !cn | london
[07:20] <xtknight> Shak-, kernel check did something, mine was not like that.  but you are correct.  why dont you simplify what is in the parentheses to shak1
[07:20] <newbee617> xtknight: ok , i try it now
[07:21] <london> 谢谢
[07:21] <phreck> how do i find out which wireless chipset i have
[07:21] <sn9_> london: you're welcome
[07:21] <mistform> xtknight, is there a way to use the Logo key + a letter?
[07:21] <co_Cool_abizzzz> hi shak, can you help me ? I have tried install 3ddesk but an error appears "gl/gl.h not installed". Do you have idea ?
[07:21] <mistform> it puts in the Logo key instantly
[07:21] <Shak-> xtknight: alrighty, gonna try make-kpkg now
[07:21] <xtknight> mistform, yes, you have to go in gconf-editor and manually assign the command to <Mod4>A  for instance for WindowsKEy+A
[07:22] <xtknight> mistform, see this page for a guide.  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-create-keyboard-shortcuts-in-gnome/
[07:22] <newbee617> xtknight:  not work
[07:22] <Shak-> co_Cool_abizzzz: I haven't installed 3ddesk so I'm not familliar with that error, did you search the forum?
[07:22] <xtknight> newbee617, same error?  try installing libgtkmm-2.4-dev then
[07:23] <xtknight> co_Cool_abizzzz, install GL MESA libraries, or the development package for your video card
[07:23] <Shoopuf> Anyone know a more customizable IRC client for Ubuntu? slightly disappointed with Pidgin (no name highlighting and stuff)
[07:23] <xtknight> !info xchat | Shoopuf
[07:23] <sn9_> Shoopuf: i like xchat, but not xchat-gnome
[07:23] <co_Cool_abizzzz> yes I did
[07:23] <xtknight> same here
[07:23] <newbee617> xtknight:  it works. thanks.
[07:23] <xtknight> co_Cool_abizzzz, can you do a "locate gl/gl.h" and see where it is?
[07:23] <Shak-> I settled with mirc/nonamescript on wine, I couldn't take any of the native programs :/
[07:24] <sn9_> Shak-: did you try xchat?
[07:24] <xtknight> yea mirc does have a lot of scripts, many more than xchat altho i like xchat stock,
[07:25] <Shak-> sn9_: yeah, I didn't like its interface
[07:25] <newbee617> xtknight:  may i ask another question , you know sometimes , the error prompt me that ii need some libs ,but i can't get the exact name of it.
[07:25] <co_Cool_abizzzz> I'm sorry xtkninght I can't do that because I not use ubuntu now
[07:25] <sn9_> Shak-: that's customizable, too
[07:25] <xintron> How do I force my DVD-drive to mount (it doesn't show up even though tere's a DVD in it)?
[07:25] <Shak-> sn9_: true, but I'm really fond of the themes in nonamescript, you should check out some screenshots
[07:25] <xtknight> newbee617, there is no definitive way.  it's almost always a -dev package though.  you can search for keywords in synaptic.  sometimes you just have to know.  it usually starts with lib and ends with -dev though
[07:26] <newbee617> xtknight:  just now the error said gtkmm-dev is needed . but that is not the exact name of the package i need to apt-get.
[07:26] <tata> hio
[07:26] <sn9_> Shak-: you can probably port the themes to xchat themes'
[07:26] <xtknight> newbee617, it will do that to you sometimes.  that is the fault of the person who made the configure script.  it means you should search for keywords gtkmm and dev, and you will find libgtkmm-dev or (2.4 which u need)
[07:26] <Shak-> xtknight: ok got a little problem, make error'ed out on a sanity check - http://paste.ubuntu.com/26395/
[07:26] <xtknight> co_Cool_abizzzz, ok i am confused how are you compiling?
[07:27] <xtknight> cygwin?
[07:27] <Shak-> xtknight: should I edit the changelog and run the command again?
[07:27] <nickrud> newbee617 a general rule of thumb is   apt-cache search <lib> | grep dev , like   apt-cache search gtkmm | grep dev . About 90% of the time, it works well
[07:27] <CrackWhoreBob> how do i make a program like deluge a default program
[07:27] <CrackWhoreBob> i am sure a newbie could answer this
[07:27] <xtknight> Shak-, can i see the command line for make-kpkg
[07:27] <tata> low
[07:27] <newbee617> xtknight:  ok. thanks
[07:27] <magnetron> CrackWhoreBob, right click a file, choose properties and open with
[07:27] <mistform> xtknight, thank you for helping, i'm just trying to get the syntax down. for the logo key, do I use what you said, "WindowsKEy+T" T for terminal.
[07:27] <Shak-> sn9_: how hard would that be?
[07:28] <Shak-> xtknight: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=shak1 kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image
[07:28] <xtknight> mistform, <Mod4>T
[07:28] <CrackWhoreBob> yea i did but it doesn't auto open when i download torrent
[07:28] <newbee617> nickrud: ok thanks , i will try that.
[07:28] <CrackWhoreBob> shouldn't it
[07:28] <xtknight> you can even tab complete to find libraries.  i usually so that.   sudo apt-get lib<tab><tab>-dev :)
[07:28] <dyf> when i run firefox, it plays flash content fine, after a few minutes, it decides not to and i have to restart it to get it to play again.. any ideas how to fix this?
[07:28] <sn9_> Shak-: depends on how graphically inclined you are
[07:28] <ePeterson> hello all. I have a bad situation here and I've been googling with no result. I just formated a partition in windows and after I reboot into ubuntu, I got grub error 17. it turns out that my ubuntu partition is gone and it's shown as free space.
[07:28] <xtknight> Shak-, and pastebin your changelog?
[07:28] <Shoopuf> xtknight should seriously get a special medal for answering so many questions
[07:29] <Shak-> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26394/
[07:29] <ePeterson> note that I didn't touch my ubuntu partition
[07:29] <xtknight> Shak-, make it linux-source-2.6.25.10-ultimate (shak1)
[07:29] <mistform> ePeterson, you deleted your partition
[07:29] <nickxnd> I logged in as root on my machine and I automatically get the following error. I cannot even reboot the machine
[07:29] <nickxnd>  password:
[07:29] <nickxnd> -bash: groups: command not found
[07:29] <xtknight> Shak-, press Ctrl+O and then CTRL+X  to edit the nano editor.  debian/changelog does have to be edited in root moode
[07:29] <ePeterson> mistform: seriously? even though I didn't touch the ubuntu partition at all
[07:30] <Shak-> xtknight: you mean linux-source-2.6.25.10 (shak1) ?
[07:30] <xtknight> Shak-, i mean Ctrl+O Saves in nano and Ctrl+X Closes.
[07:30] <nickxnd> i can't sudo? i just recently changed my password on my ubuntu box and now i cannot do anything or see any files.
[07:30] <Shak-> xtknight: I prefer vim anyway :)
[07:30] <xtknight> Shak-, you will remove every single thing inside the parentheses, and put shak1 there.  and not touch the rest of the line outside parentheses
[07:30] <co_Cool_abizzzz> When I type ./configure an error appear "gl/gl.h is not found", I had install OpenGL and libimlib2 (dependencies)
[07:31] <xtknight> nickxnd, what do you mean by root?  did you enable the root account?
[07:31] <it1> aq ora ngerti blassss
[07:31] <nickxnd> Um. well i have always been logged in as root as i purchased the server. Today i changed the root password and now nothing works
[07:31] <mistform> ePeterson, try fsck
[07:31] <xtknight> !id | it1
[07:31] <Shak-> xtknight: linux-source-2.6.25.10 (shak1) unstable; urgency=low
[07:31] <xtknight> i am sorry if that's the wrong language
[07:31] <Shak-> xtknight: isnt that what make wants to see
[07:32] <nickxnd> i can't view files as soon as I login it says -bash: groups: command not found
[07:32] <xtknight> Shak-, actually you might be correct.  it doesnt hurt to try
[07:32] <Shak-> ok
[07:32] <sn9_> xtknight: wow, even i couldn't identify that
[07:32] <nickxnd> wierd i can't run any commands and Im logged in as root
[07:32] <xtknight> sn9_, arin whois
[07:33] <nickxnd> I can't view files or even reboot the machine
[07:33] <xtknight> nickxnd, yea your acct is broken.  maybe /root/.bashrc or something.  you will have to get on a livecd and fix it from there
[07:33] <purplestar> besides Opera and Firefox. what other browser can I use on Hardy?
[07:33] <co_Cool_abizzzz> hi it1, u org indonesia ya ???
[07:33] <Shak-> xtknight: ok looks like its compiling, is there anything else to do after this?
[07:33] <xzedn> totem will play midi
[07:34] <mistform> xtknight, ok, what do I put where? I'm in configuration editor under keybindings, what do I do now?
[07:34] <mokeev> hello
[07:34] <xzedn> but after a song is over, it will start complaining about missing codecs
[07:34] <xzedn> then it won't play it
[07:34] <sn9_> co_Cool_abizzzz: did xtknight get it right?
[07:34] <xtknight> purplestar, epiphany (lighter firefox), midori(WebKit/Safari-like browser), lynx (text based), safari(via wine, does not work too well), Konqueror kde3, konqeuror kde4
[07:34] <xzedn> until I exit out and restart it
[07:34] <xtknight> Shak-, yea you will "cd .." and install the debs
[07:34] <xzedn> is there any good players that will work with midi?
[07:34] <nickxnd> xtknight im renting the servers
[07:35] <xtknight> Shak-,  headers and image for your shak1 revision.  it will augment your current grub with the newly-revisioned kernel.  it will keep your old kernels.
[07:35] <co_Cool_abizzzz> yes I think so sn9_
[07:36] <Shak-> xtknight: hmm, well thats just redundant, can I 'delete' the old revision?
[07:36] <xtknight> mistform, find run_command_terminal, put <Mod4>T   as a string value in here.
[07:36] <sn9_> i thought it was callous when somebody asked in korean, and ubottu responded in japanese
[07:36] <xtknight> mistform, run_command_terminal happens to correspond to what you saw in the Keyboard SHortcuts program for Open Terminal
[07:36] <mistform> ok, tyvm
[07:36] <xtknight> you can use the "whois" program in ubuntu on one's ip to find out where he probably lives
[07:37] <xtknight> and then go by the country code there
[07:37] <mistform> it's already Logo
[07:37] <mistform> it works
[07:37] <xtknight> Shak-, i would not recommend doing so while running that kernel, but i did remove it meanwhile and it worked OK.  it's just easier if you reboot into the new one first.
[07:37] <mistform> i'll see how it goes
[07:37] <xtknight> Shak-, acutally you might come across trouble installing new deb with same kernel major version 2.6.26 anyway.  i can help you at that point
[07:38] <jokerjr> hello
[07:38] <sn9_> !hi | jokerjr
[07:38] <xtknight> nickxnd, sorry i don't really understand the environment in which you're running ubuntu?
[07:38] <jokerjr> does anyone knows how to make your irc repeat a sentence or a phrase after a certain time period. i am using x chat
[07:38] <Shak-> xtknight: since I'm not rebuilding the entire kernel here, wouldn't just removing it from menu.lst be sufficient?
[07:38] <ferric> ok i give up, my video card has tv out, but i only have an s-video cable
[07:39] <nickxnd> how do i fix a broken account?
[07:39] <ferric> don't think that tv-out uses s-video
[07:39] <sn9_> jokerjr: that question is better suited to the #xchat channel
[07:39] <ferric> xtknight: thanks again.
[07:39] <xtknight> Shak-, it is taking your old kernel, putting new contents in the package, and packing it back up.  it's like packing your china and then putting another piece in, so youve got a new big china package.  but it still has everything.  so it is a complete new kernel for all intents and purposes, just the way you got there was a shortcut
[07:39] <Shak-> oh hmm
[07:39] <nickxnd> xtknight: how would i be able to try to fix the account manually? All of a sudden after changing root password everything stopped working
[07:39] <xtknight> Shak-, also the current 2.6.25 you have has /lib/modules/2.6.25  that might conflict with the new rev. i'm not sure
[07:39] <jokerjr> uum where is xchat channe
[07:40] <jokerjr> uum where is xchat channel
[07:40] <sn9_> jokerjr: type: /join #xchat
[07:40] <xtknight> nickxnd, can you log into a user account which is a"sudo" user acct?
[07:40] <jokerjr> on ubuntu servers
[07:40] <sn9_> jokerjr: ubuntu servers just points to the freenode network, so that will work
[07:41] <jokerjr> thanks
[07:41] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: ok, what exactly have you done, and what happened?
[07:41] <newbee617> the source code&compile way of installing software has what advantage against deb paceages? who have any ideas?
[07:41] <nickxnd> xtknight i don't know of any other accounts
[07:41] <Shak-> xtknight: it wouldnt be possible to just compile 'over' the old kernel?
[07:41] <amirman> can someone please tell me how to bind a hotkey to a script?
[07:42] <sn9_> amirman: in xchat?
[07:42] <Shak-> kind of a pain having to do all this for forgetting to check a couple of modules
[07:42] <xtknight> newbee617, a source code compile will typically allow you to get a newer version of the software, but it will not always allow easy uninstallation.  you can use programs like checkinstall to generate deb packages from compiled ones with varying success.  some compiled programs have a Makefile which contains "make uninstall", which means you can execute that to uninstall the program just as well you could by having a deb package.
[07:42] <xtknight> Shak-, you can compile the modules individually and load these in.  if you want to reinstall your kernel ever however you will need to load these modules manually all the time.
[07:43] <xtknight> Shak-, maybe you didn't even have to change the revision.  but i have not used kernelcheck so i am not sure
[07:43] <mistform> ok, if I install a better graphics card, what is the likelyhood of me being able to boot up and come back into xchat here?
[07:44] <nickxnd> gordonjcp: i changed my root password. then i logged in after i watched my show and now i can't view any system files or even reboot the machine. No commands work at all. when i login i get an error -bash: groups: command not found
[07:44] <sn9_> mistform: about 70/30
[07:44] <xtknight> mistform, if you are using vesa right now, 95% with any new card. if you are using an open source driver for your current card, probably 60% with a new card of the same brand.  if you are using closed source for your current card and get the same brand, maybe 75%.
[07:44] <Shak-> xtknight: its compiling alot of other junk too, is this just necessary stuff you'd have to do everytime you made a kernel revision?
[07:44] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: ok, just changing your root password shouldn't do that
[07:45] <xtknight> if you are using ati drivers(open or closed) and install an nvidia card, you will not be able to get into X initially.  but ubuntu has bulletproofX that will set vesa for you and allow you to get to a makeshift ubuntu desktop from which you may install the new drivers you need for your new card
[07:45] <amirman> sn9_: no in gnome, i wrote a script and i want to bind it to a hotkey that i can use anywhere
[07:45] <mistform> sn9_, xtknight, i'm using a legacy driver for my nvidia card right now, the other card is an ATI 9600
[07:45] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: what does "ls /usr/bin/groups" say?
[07:45] <newbee617> xtknight:  thanks. so the compiled program don't have any performance advantages via deb packages. right?
[07:45] <xtknight> mistform, putting in the ATI card will yield a primitive low resolution screen next time you boot
[07:45] <xtknight> newbee617, that's pretty much correct
[07:45] <mistform> xtknight, and what do I do then?
[07:46] <newbee617> xtknight:  thanks.
[07:46] <sn9_> amirman: oh, somebody else just asked that, and i've already forgotten the answer
[07:46] <xtknight> newbee617, unless the Makefile has an optimization for your CPU, or it is a newer faster version, but generally no performance difference at all, no.
[07:46] <mistform> apt-get update?
[07:46] <xtknight> mistform, after you get to the low res desktop, sudo apt-get update  then   goto system->admin->Hardware drivers and install fglrx
[07:46] <newbee617> xtknight:  thanks again , for your detailed and clear answer.
[07:46] <xtknight> fglrx is FireGL for X, ati's closed source driver
[07:47] <sn9_> mistform: you need to uninstall nvidia first
[07:47] <xtknight> i think that cards 9250 and higher are supported with fglrx
[07:47] <nickxnd> gordonjcp: root@cd26-357:~# ls /usr/bin/groups
[07:47] <nickxnd> ls: cannot access /usr/bin/groups: No such file or directory
[07:47] <nickxnd> root@cd26-357:~#
[07:47] <xtknight> sn9_, mistform ubuntu bulletproofX may kick in and enable him to use VESA mode
[07:48] <Shak-> xtknight: ok make error'ed again :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/26396/
[07:48] <xtknight> (if it cant load 'nv' on a 9600).   loading vesa now cant be a bad idea
[07:48] <sn9_> amirman: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-create-keyboard-shortcuts-in-gnome/
[07:48] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: that's odd
[07:48] <gordonjcp> it should be there
[07:48] <xtknight> Shak-, oh dear.  kernelcheck has messed things up
[07:48] <nickxnd> yeah i can't see any file system
[07:48] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: have you deleted anything?
[07:48] <gordonjcp> ah
[07:48] <sn9_> xtknight: i thought hardy dropped that BulletProofX garbage
[07:48] <xtknight> Shak-, well   nano debian/control    and see if you can fix that
[07:48] <gordonjcp> are you still logged in as root?
[07:48] <nickxnd> could it be i was hacked?
[07:48] <hacklsrus> installing new 1.1.10 seamonkey what's correct directory... im getting error on default destination
[07:48] <xtknight> sn9_, nope , intrepid will drop it afaik.  but my hardy has it from what i remember
[07:49] <Shak-> xtknight: revert back to what it originally was?
[07:49] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: more likely that you broke stuff somehow ;-)
[07:49] <nickxnd> godronjcp: i only change the password
[07:49] <xtknight> Shak-, revert what back?
[07:49] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: are you still logged in as root?
[07:49] <nickxnd> yes
[07:49] <xtknight> Shak-, changelog?  i guess maybe you should.  it's a good thing you pastebinned it.  and just use the same revision
[07:49] <Shak-> xtknight: oh nvm, I thought you said /changelog
[07:49] <nickxnd> well my session expired
[07:49] <nickxnd> and i relogged in
[07:49] <xtknight> Shak-, well try editing debian/control i guess...
[07:49] <Shak-> k
[07:49] <xtknight> we are close
[07:50] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: did you log in as root?
[07:50] <amirman> sn9_: thank you for the link, gconf is just what i needed
[07:50] <xtknight> Shak-, pastebin your debian/control i tihnk i can fix that one
[07:51] <newbee617> xtknight: i believe you must be  a  top skilled expert, so if you have any idear about my ibm t30 wireless network problems, i am using wicd, but i cant conncet to a encryptioned wireless network. i can see it , though
[07:51] <nickxnd> gordonjcp: yes i did.. wow my box went down. I can't ping it. Unless techs are looking into my ticket
[07:51] <xtknight> newbee617, what wireless adapter does your computer use?
[07:51] <nickxnd> ha looks like tech is looking into it now
[07:51] <nickxnd> let me take a look for you
[07:51] <nickxnd> ----
[07:51] <nickxnd> Mark Williams
[07:52] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: right, log out and log back in as a normal user
[07:52] <Shak-> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26397/
[07:52] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: logging in as root won't really work
[07:52] <newbee617> maybe prism, something like that . some guy told me how to check it , but i have forgotten
[07:52] <xtknight> Shak-, remove -ultimate from all those
[07:52] <nickxnd> gordonjcp: i don't know how to login as a normal user. I just purchased the server from a hosting provider and they gave me root into
[07:52] <newbee617> xtknight: maybe prism, something like that . some guy told me how to check it , but i have forgotten
[07:52] <Raheem> newbee617, lspci
[07:52] <xtknight> newbee617, sudo lshw -C network
[07:52] <CrackWhoreBob> anyone familiar with a good avi. to .wmv converter?
[07:53] <TheRealCdoublejj> hello
	hello i'm having problems with wine and linux apperntly linux really doesn't like hard resets
[07:53] <TheRealCdoublejj> 	<TheRealCdoublejj>	but any ways
[07:53] <TheRealCdoublejj> 	<TheRealCdoublejj>	when i get past the script part (for ubuntu latest version)
[07:53] <TheRealCdoublejj> 	<TheRealCdoublejj>	and click the link to download it sayscan not install "wine" E;\unable to correct problems you have held a broken package
[07:53] <xtknight> CrackWhoreBob, mencoder may be able to do this.  i think only Windows media earlier/7 (WMV1/WMV2) and not WMV3(windows media 9) encoding?
[07:54] <mon^rch> help please... I can no longer access root
[07:54] <xtknight> mon^rch, how do you mean?
[07:54] <TheRealCdoublejj> and why the hell was ff 3.0 put in now i can't install chatzilla since all the irc clients that came with ubuntu were delted after updates
[07:54] <mon^rch> xtknight: for instance a program cannot access /
[07:55] <xtknight> mon^rch, can you tell me what command fails or what you want to do that is failing?
[07:55] <Shak-> xtknight: by reverting the changelog do you think we'd get past having two kernel options?
[07:55] <sn9_> newbee617: don't bother with wicd in hardy heron
[07:55] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: oh, ok
[07:55] <mon^rch> xtknight: and nautilus is blank at /
[07:55] <xtknight> Shak-, dont revert at the moment
[07:55] <mistform> TheRealCdoublejj, hey, go to http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[07:55] <xtknight> Shak-, remove -ultimate from the Package: lines in control and you may be fine
[07:55] <TheRealCdoublejj> thanks mistform
[07:56] <gordonjcp> nickxnd: well, you'll need to take it up with them - also, if it's Ubuntu then there should not be a root password set and you should not be able to log in as root
[07:56] <xtknight> mon^rch, ok.  can you oopen a terminal now?
[07:56] <newbee617> sn9_:  what's your mean plz? any better choice?
[07:56] <mon^rch> xtknight:
[07:56] <mon^rch> yup
[07:56] <xtknight> newbee617, what card exactly?  type sudo lshw -C network and pastebin please
[07:56] <sn9_> newbee617: yes, just use the applet that comes with hardy
[07:56] <xtknight> mon^rch, pastebin "df -h" and "mount" please
[07:56] <TheRealCdoublejj> so i type in Shak-, remove -ultimate from the Package:sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[07:57] <newbee617> guys , both the methods u told me worked . and the card is : Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset .
[07:57] <sn9_> newbee617: that should use the "hostap" driver
[07:57] <newbee617> xtknight: the card is : Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset .
[07:57] <TheRealCdoublejj> i think it would just be easyer to reformatt and reinstall and reupdate since it's fresh yet Fed up install
[07:58] <sn9_> newbee617: the problem is that ubuntu loads three competing drivers for that at the same time
[07:58] <xtknight> newbee617, did you check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664586
[07:58] <mistform> TheRealCdoublejj, did you follow that guide I gave you?
[07:58] <TheRealCdoublejj> yes
[07:58] <sn9_> newbee617: you need to blacklist prism2_cs and orinoco_cs
[07:59] <mistform> TheRealCdoublejj, sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:59] <TheRealCdoublejj> i think my error was copying and pasting the in wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[07:59] <mon^rch> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26399/
[07:59] <TheRealCdoublejj> instead of sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[07:59] <xtknight> mon^rch, can you also type "groups"  and "dmesg"
[07:59] <xtknight> (and pastebin)
[07:59] <mon^rch> k
[07:59] <newb> i upgraded to kernel 2.6.24-19 but my intel 945 card isn't working with compiz. what is the problem? HELP PLEASE
[08:00] <sn9_> newb: it's a known issue, i think
[08:00] <TheRealCdoublejj> says no new updates and it still says i'm holding a probenpackage
[08:00] <xtknight> Shak-, any luck with that
[08:00] <TheRealCdoublejj> broken*
[08:00] <Shak-> xtknight: h/o making
[08:00] <mistform> TheRealCdoublejj, you can search for the package manually in Synaptic Packet Manager
[08:00] <TheRealCdoublejj> k
[08:01] <newb> sn9_: ok
[08:01] <newbee617> sn9_:  but how can i blacklist the other 2 drivers?
[08:01] <newb> sn9_ how to fix? :(
[08:01] <newbee617> xtknight: not yet.  i will check that post later. thanks
[08:01] <Rat409> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:02] <xtknight> newbee617, ya sn9_ seems to know a lot more about your problem than me, and i dont recommend ndiswrapper so follow his advice first please ;)
[08:02] <sn9_> newbee617: put a file in /etc/modprobe.d, named however you like, that says:
[08:02] <newbee617> ok
[08:02] <sn9_> blacklist orinoco_cs
[08:02] <sn9_> blacklist prism2_cs
[08:02] <TheRealCdoublejj> it won't let me mark it for installtaion nor do i get options  to delete it
[08:02] <bayden> how can i get a game from ununtu to windows with a disk using the same file and be able to play the setup
[08:02] <mistform> TheRealCdoublejj, mark for reinstallation?
[08:02] <mon^rch> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26400/
[08:03] <sn9_> then make sure there is no blacklist for hostap_cs anywhere
[08:03] <bayden> will it work
[08:03] <TheRealCdoublejj> i right click wine package and that was the only option i got
[08:03] <sn9_> newbee617: i am assuming your wifi is a pcmcia card for a laptop
[08:03] <mistform> what was the only option, TheRealCdoublejj?
[08:03] <xtknight> mon^rch, ok i might need the whole dmesg.  i am not seeing a problem with your groups.  btw, are you on a fully updated ubuntu and have you attempted to reboot to fix this first?
[08:04] <mon^rch> hmmm no
[08:04] <mon^rch> and yes
[08:04] <newbee617> sn9_:  what is pcmcia , i am not sure . in fact i know nothing about the wifi....
[08:04] <TheRealCdoublejj> do in need to reinstall linux?
[08:04] <sn9_> newbee617: the older kind of laptop cards are pcmcia
[08:04] <mon^rch> xtknight: ty
[08:04] <newbee617> sn9_:  my wifi card is enbedding in the laptop.
[08:05] <bayden> I NEED HELP HERE
[08:05] <sn9_> newbee617: oh, that's different
[08:05] <mistform> TheRealCdoublejj, no, you don't.
[08:05] <Shak-> xtknight: its building a deb :)
[08:05] <bayden> im trying to copy a game from linux to windows and like it already was when it was in ubuntu so i can continue the setup
[08:05] <xtknight> Shak-, cool
[08:05] <bayden> and i dont know how
[08:05] <xtknight> Shak-, expect more problems ;)
[08:06] <xtknight> Shak-, nonetheless, fixable problems
[08:06] <newbee617> sn9_:  so pcmcia is a card outside the laptop?
[08:06] <Shak-> like conflicting /lib/modules/ ?
[08:06] <xtknight> Shak-, ya that
[08:06] <sn9_> newbee617: can you please pastebin the whole thing you got from that command earlier?
[08:06] <xtknight> pcmcia is a thing you stick in your laptop
[08:06] <chriswr> does anyone know if the game F.E.A.R. works on wine?
[08:07] <cruddpuppe1> Can someone tell me how to "restart" my sound card?
[08:07] <Shak-> xtknight: welll if I delete the old revision and never speak of it again how would it conflict? or do you mean it'll conflict when i start installing the deb?
[08:07] <xtknight> chriswr, you can check the Wine AppDB (goooogle)
[08:07] <TheRealCdoublejj> it won't repair packages cause i still get the same message
[08:07] <chriswr> ok  thnx
[08:07] <mistform> TheRealCdoublejj, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[08:07] <xtknight> cruddpuppe1, remove the modules which it is using, and reload them
[08:07] <cruddpuppe1> My sound card died on me, and I'm wondering if it's possible to restart the sound service or something without restarting my whole computer
[08:07] <xtknight> this will reload firwmare on the sound card
[08:07] <newbee617> sn9_: yes , but a little more time plz , since i am using my pc , not my laptop.
[08:07] <TheRealCdoublejj> and when i try to mar for install it says there are indescrepancies
[08:07] <Rumple1> Question: What is an easy way to set up a static IP with a wireless connection. I have tried various guides online and have only managed to disable my internet connection entirely. I have just restored it to the default DHCP setting.
[08:07] <cruddpuppe1> Xtknight: How would I go about doing such a thing?
[08:07] <xtknight> cruddpuppe1, find your sound module.  please pastebin sudo lshw -C sound
[08:08] <bayden> can somebody tell me how to get a game from linux to windows and the file to be like it already was ?
[08:08] <xtknight> Shak-, just the deb part. dont worry we'll fix it for good
[08:08] <Shak-> if my wifi module gets knocked out then i'm screwed :p
[08:08] <xtknight> Shak-, no worries.  modules are in memory
[08:08] <cruddpuppe1> xtknight: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1067747
[08:08] <Shak-> aha ok
[08:09] <xtknight> Shak-, i deleted my kernel while it was running, no problem, deleting whole lib modules dir for it, smooth as pancakes
[08:09] <bayden> dose paste bin answer my question
[08:09] <newbee617> sn9_:   the output of the command have only one line about the wifi, so that line is enough, right?
[08:09] <Shak-> now thats something you dont see on windows :)
[08:09] <xtknight> cruddpuppe1, hmmm well can you type lsmod|grep snd   and pastebin this plz?
[08:09] <mistform> bayden, use wine to run the game. go to http://www.winehq.org
[08:09] <xtknight> Shak-, definitely not.  it is so convenient to be able to 'Do What You Want'(tm) on linux since users always know what they're doing, of course :)
[08:09] <xnv> mistform: Pretty sure that's not his question.
[08:10] <cruddpuppe1> xtknight: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1067750
[08:10] <xtknight> bayden, no way to gurantee it since the game probably has a registry
[08:10] <xnv> bayden: Hard to tell what your question is, though. "A game" could mean a few things. "like it already was" could mean many things.
[08:10] <TheRealCdoublejj> now it's telling me some file is locked when i type apt-get remove wine or apt-get install wine
[08:10] <mistform> bayden: can somebody tell me how to get a game from linux to windows and the file to be like it already was ?
[08:10] <sn9_> newbee617: do you get anything if you type this? lspci | grep -i prism
[08:10] <xtknight> TheRealCdoublejj, make sure update manager or synaptic is not open?  but dont close updates
[08:10] <Shak-> xtknight: a question about modules though, when you compile/build a module for something, like a wifi module, how does modprobe know to use that module? and how would you revert to the old module if you didnt like the new one?
[08:10] <TheRealCdoublejj> i swear windows is easyer too badd it wouldn't install becasue of the irq error
[08:11] <mistform> TheRealCdoublejj, you used "sudo apt-get remove wine"?
[08:11] <TheRealCdoublejj> i think the irq setting would have been easyer to fix thean linux
[08:11] <newbee617> sn9_:  that line says: network controoler : intersil corporation prism 2.5 wavelan chipset.
[08:11] <TheRealCdoublejj> oh
[08:11] <TheRealCdoublejj> wait update manage is close
[08:11] <TheRealCdoublejj> do i have to go root?
[08:11] <TheRealCdoublejj> if so how?
[08:11] <sn9_> newbee617: ok, then do the stuff i said the first time, but with _pci instead of _cs
[08:11] <Ahadiel> theRealAway, using sudo makes the command run as root
[08:11] <chriswr> can anyone give me a little help on installing a msi file in wine?
[08:11] <mistform> TheRealCdoublejj, type "sudo apt-get remove wine"
[08:11] <Ahadiel> TheRealCdoublejj, ^
[08:11] <xtknight> Shak-, depmod -a will reregister all modules on your system.  modprobe -l will list them.  modprobe itself does not know.  udev, loaded at ubuntu startup, invokes modprobe to load certain modules for hardware.  it knows which modules to load automatically via modules.pcimap.  if it's not the one there, you need to blacklist or delete the modules and apend it to /etc/modules
[08:12] <xtknight> Shak-, when a module is loaded, it will scan the pci bus for devices which it supports.  it will then associate itself with every device enumerated
[08:12] <sn9_> newbee617: if you do it all right, assuming wicd is gone, it should "just work" after reboot
[08:12] <newbee617> sn9_:  u mean blacklist the other 2 drivers?
[08:13] <sn9_> newbee617: yes, orinoco_pci and prism2_pci, and make sure there is no blacklist in any file for hostap_pci
[08:13] <chriswr> can anyone give me a little help on installing a msi file in wine?
[08:13] <jetroid> i want to copy a large directory (near 40GB) from my harddrive onto an external harddrive (yes, it has enough space free). i tried with nautilus but it messed up. how do i do it with the terminal?
[08:14] <TheRealCdoublejj> iused sudo to uninstall wine then tried ti use sudo to install wine still says broken packages it did do the hd sector repair thing after i did a hard reset so i assume the install ofl inux is corrupt
[08:14] <Shak-> xtknight: ah I see, so when you build a module it puts itself inside /etc/modules, what happens to the old version of that module though, would you use something like insmod on the .ko file to load it again?
[08:14] <newbee617> sn9_:  i try it now.
[08:14] <Rumple1> Question: How do I find my information to set up a static IP address for a wireless connection in the network manager.
[08:14] <TheRealCdoublejj> hell for all i know the the hhd controller on the mobo is bad
[08:14] <xtknight> chriswr, msiexec /i filename.msi  ??  see here http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/9361d377-9011-4e21-8011-db371fa220ba1033.mspx?mfr=true
[08:14] <TheRealCdoublejj> i got this taken apart they said it orginally had an hdd prob
[08:14] <chriswr> thnx
[08:15] <TheRealCdoublejj> it's 2 am
[08:15] <xtknight> Shak-, the old version will have had to be deleted or blacklisted, otherwise it will get loaded too!
[08:15] <TheRealCdoublejj> here
[08:15] <xtknight> Shak-, because that's probably what's still in modules.pcimap
[08:15] <xtknight> Shak-, oh if you want it back, reinstall linux-image to get the .ko back or unblacklist it.  and then remove the 'new' one from /etc/modules.  then youre all set.  itll stil be loaded by udev
[08:15] <TheRealCdoublejj> aww i think i'm just gonna suck it up and reinstall
[08:16] <TheRealCdoublejj> yeah i'm just reinstalling
[08:17] <Shoopuf> Is VMWare better than Wine?
[08:17] <xtknight> TheRealCdoublejj, ok next time be more careful of how you install packages because the database is apparently broken
[08:17] <orphean> Shoopuf: they are two completely different things.
[08:17] <xtknight> Shoopuf, for running windows apps, yea.  vmware runs 'actual windows code', and wine tries to translate it.
[08:18] <xtknight> and as you know, translations can come out a little dirty
[08:18] <cruddpuppe1> So, anyone got any clue on how I can go about restarting some sound drivers?
[08:18] <xtknight> cruddpuppe1, yikes sorry did you paste the lsmod|grep snd
[08:18] <TheRealCdoublejj> i think i hit the database with my car, i swear i didn't see it :P
[08:18] <xtknight> hehe
[08:19] <cruddpuppe1> xtknight: I forgot the person who was helping me, sorry. http://pastebin.ca/raw/1067750
[08:19] <xtknight> well don't total yourself.  now reinstall, get a new paint job and load it again.
[08:19] <xtknight> cruddpuppe1, it's easier to reboot you sure you don't wanna do that?
[08:19] <Shak-> xtknight: where is modules.pcimap located?
[08:19] <cruddpuppe1> xtknight: I want to keep my uptime though ;-;
[08:20] <xtknight> cruddpuppe1, sudo rmmod snd_intel8x0 and all those snd modules
[08:20] <newbee617> sn9_:  after blacklisting , i need to reboot my laptop?
[08:20] <xtknight> Shak-, /lib/modules/2.6.26-rc9/modules.pcimap
[08:20] <cruddpuppe1> xtknight: Thanks. I'll see if I can write a script to simplify all that.
[08:20] <xtknight> e.g.
[08:20] <xtknight> cruddpuppe1, if it's just a one time thing dont bother
[08:20] <TheRealCdoublejj> hey after i reinstall and update can i donwgrade firefox to 2.0
[08:21] <sn9_> newbee617: if the wifi is built-in, that is best
[08:21] <cruddpuppe1> ERROR: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use
[08:21] <cruddpuppe1> wat
[08:21] <newb> why doesn't i945 work properly on hardy? it used to work so well with gutsy. if u claim this is a known issue and don't do anything about it, it's SAD
[08:21] <xtknight> TheRealCdoublejj, install firefox-2.0 and uninstall firefox-3
[08:21] <TheRealCdoublejj> k
[08:21] <xtknight> cruddpuppe1, you need to remove them all, and you dont know the order.
[08:21] <newb> even on the latest kernel this issue isn't fixed
[08:21] <cruddpuppe1> o
[08:21] <newbee617> sn9_:  rebooting. hope that will work
[08:21] <xtknight> cruddpuppe1, prolly need to remove snd_ pcm or something first, etc, eventually they will all goaway i think
[08:22] <xnv> newb: If it's a known issue, why haven't you fixed it?
[08:22] <bayden> what is a daa file can linux run that
[08:22] <xtknight> because he's here wanting other ppl to fix it:)
[08:22] <newb> xnv: because i'm new to all this. i don't understand it :(
[08:22] <xtknight> newb, understandable, unfortunately developers do not have all the time or money they need to fix problems
[08:22] <xtknight> even regressions
[08:22] <newb> xtnight: hmmm :( how can i help?
[08:22] <xtknight> yes, unfortunately Hardy has a lot of regressions
[08:23] <chriswr> xtknight: i typed in the code you told me to and it came up with warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000 and a bunch of other stuff so i tried looking up a forum on ubuntu and and someone told me to type in wine before that and i got the same message
[08:23] <xtknight> newb, you can find or file a bug report on the launchpad.net site, and contribute to the Bug report there any information that the bug maintainers or triagers or developers request
[08:23] <xtknight> !launchpad | newb
[08:23] <sn9_> xnv: newb is saying it's a known issue because i said that i *think* someone else here said that before
[08:23] <xtknight> chriswr, you can ignore that it's just some weird wine message
[08:23] <ce_maneezzz> n
[08:23] <newb> xtknight: u mean i should conrtibute the errors in the log file?
[08:23] <xnv> sn9_: OK
[08:24] <xtknight> newb, it might be helpful
[08:24] <bayden> great ive downloaded wine and now i dont know where it is
[08:24] <Flannel> bayden: You don't need to now where it is.
[08:24] <newb> xtknight: how about introducing me to the workings of device drivers on linux. maybe some resources to get me started? i would actually like to do this myself and help
[08:24] <chriswr> xtknight: then should it be on there when i restart? or do i need to do something else?
[08:24] <bayden> but how do i install it
[08:24] <wib> hi. i'm running in low resolution mode and i have no idea why that is. yesterday everything worked fine. fglrx-kernel-source-envy has been updated yesterday, maybe that's the cause? xorg.conf looks fine. ubuntu 8.04, ATi radeon, fglrx, compiz fusion
[08:25] <xnv> newb: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
[08:25] <Flannel> bayden: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine#Installing%20Wine  that page has everything you need to know. (also, don't download it, let your package manager)
[08:25] <xtknight> newb, device drivers is not a good place to start programming, i dont mean to discourage you but kernel drivers require meticulous attention because they execute at ring-0, or kernel level in the CPU and can cause hard freezes.
[08:25] <newbee617> sn9_: it doesn't work. any ideas?
[08:26] <xtknight> newb, if it makes you feel any better, i program a lot of software and my kernel drivers are an absolute mess.
[08:26] <sn9_> newbee617: are you sure wicd is gone and the applet in the upper-right corner of the screen is showing up?
[08:26] <xtknight> chriswr, sorry not sure what you're trying to do
[08:26] <newb> xtknight: why would u say that?
[08:26] <xnv> xtknight: Doesn't mean he can't try to learn about them. You can contribute a lot just by finding out where exactly the bug is.
[08:26] <newb> xtknight: is it because the device specs are very abstruse?
[08:27] <newbee617> sn9_:  oh my god. u mean i need to remove wicd.
[08:27] <Buyydee> Hey, I finally decided to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy, but the "an upgrade is available" notice disappeared from the update manager :D How do I get it back?
[08:27] <newbee617> sn9_:  and reinstall NM?
[08:27] <sn9_> newbee617: that was the first thing i said, yes
[08:27] <Shak-> xtknight: so if i've got this right, you can only unblacklist/blacklist modules in modules.pcimap, whereas any new modules go into /etc/modules - two questions about this though, will extra modules in /lib/modules 'break' if you traverse through different linux kernels, and how do you blacklist/unblacklist stuff in modules.pcimap?
[08:27] <xnv> Buyydee: Try the 'Check' button
[08:27] <Buyydee> xnv: Did that
[08:27] <xtknight> newb, it is very complicated if you are a beginning programmer that's all
[08:28] <mistform> alright noob question. why can't I ./configure?
[08:28] <newbee617> sn9_:  sorry i have forgotten.
[08:28] <mistform> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[08:28] <Buyydee> mistform: Are you sure you're located in the right directory?
[08:28] <newb> xtknight not a beginner to program applications. but a beginner for kernel programming.
[08:28] <mistform> buyydee yes
[08:28] <xnv> mistform: I'm guessing either the file isn't in that directory or the file that is isn't executable
[08:28] <xtknight> Shak-, you dont blacklist them in modules.pcimap *usually* but in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*   but i suppose you could change the things in modules.pcimap and usbmap, never tried it
[08:28] <newbee617> sn9_:  u said hardy heron? is that 8.04 . but 7.10 in my laptop. does that matters?
[08:28] <chriswr> anyone know if theres a code to get 7-zip?
[08:28] <Buyydee> mistform: is there a configure file?
[08:28] <Shoopuf> Will Ubuntu work with a "Mac Drive" ??
[08:29] <xnv> mistform: You can try... chmod +x configure
[08:29] <xtknight> Shak-, yes one kernel only sees what's in his own /lib/modules and if /etc/modules has something there which the current version does not, the module wil not be found.  no hard crash though, just no driver loaded
[08:29] <xnv> mistform: And then try ./configure again
[08:29] <sn9_> newbee617: it does, but i accounted for that in my earlier instructions
[08:29] <xtknight> newb, ahh i see.  well see if you can debug your problem.  that is a good place to get started
[08:29] <mistform> xnv, chmod: cannot access `configure': No such file or directory
[08:29] <anolis> how can you force the logout of a remote user?
[08:29] <xtknight> newb, the skill of controlling things and limiting down the problem is crucial
[08:29] <xnv> mistform: Then it's not in that directory
[08:29] <sn9_> Shoopuf: yes
[08:29] <wib> hi. i'm running in low resolution mode and i have no idea why that is. yesterday everything worked fine. fglrx-kernel-source-envy has been updated yesterday, maybe that's the cause? xorg.conf looks fine. ubuntu 8.04, ATi radeon, fglrx, compiz fusion
[08:29] <mistform> xnv, what's not in the directory?
[08:30] <newb> xtknight: ok
[08:30] <xnv> mistform: The "configure" file
[08:30] <xtknight> newb, can you describe the problem more indepth
[08:30] <emanuel> hello, do u know to manage to use a web cam on a program where i am able to chat with msn friends?
[08:30] <wib> whoops, sry
[08:30] <sn9_> Shoopuf: you just need to make sure journaling is disabled on it
[08:30] <xtknight> newb, and look for solutions on launchpad to it.  perhaps formulate a patch off these.  that is another thing, converting patches to debian debdiffs or making the patches
[08:30] <xnv> mistform: When you put "./" in front of something, it means you're trying to execute a file in the current directory
[08:30] <anolis> wib: this usually happens if the kernel is updated, but the kernel modules for the video driver have not been compiled for your running kernel
[08:30] <Buyydee> So can no-one tell me how to upgrade Gutsy to Hardy?
[08:30] <xtknight> !upgrade | Buyydee
[08:31] <mistform> xnv, there's no configure file. is it build?
[08:31] <sn9_> chriswr: sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[08:31] <newb> xtknight: actually compiz freezes at random times. i tried what ever was there on launchpad and various forums. but i can't seem to figure out why mine is an isolated case :(
[08:31] <wib> anolis: ah, how do i fix that?
[08:31] <Shak-> xtknight: ok cool, i've got my two .debs, which should i dkpg -i first?
[08:31] <bayden> im still stuck where it says to create a fake c: drive which is i cant it wont let me
[08:31] <victamower> how do you browse to a local IPv6 address using Firefox?
[08:31] <newbee617> sn9_:  oh. sorry for that . i just haven't pay attention to that.  perhaps i need to update to 8.04? u sure that will work in 804 ,right?
[08:31] <Buyydee> xtknight: That's the first place I went to, but the instructions only hold for the time span when the 'upgrade' button was available in the update manager, which no longer is the case.
[08:31] <xtknight> Shak-, among images and headers, it wont matter.
[08:31] <xnv> mistform: I take it you are trying to install something? If so, it depends. Usually there are instructions.
[08:31] <anolis> wib: compile the video driver module for your kernel
[08:32] <anolis> wib: are you using ati or nvdia?
[08:32] <xtknight> Buyydee, gksu update-manager -c -d   does not give you it?
[08:32] <sn9_> newbee617: it's a good idea to try that, but you won't be able to go back
[08:32] <Templar_Xion> Would a webserver running on 32mb of (Virtual) ram function without a GUI?
[08:32] <wib> anolis: ati
[08:32] <xtknight> newb, learn to look at dmesg and Xorg.0.log as well
[08:32] <xtknight> for crashes
[08:32] <newbee617> sn9_:  ye, i am thinking about this.. hmm
[08:32] <Buyydee> xtknight: -c is an invalid option for update-manager
[08:33] <eugene_> Need help opening port 22
[08:33] <sn9_> xtknight: gksu -- update-manager -c -d
[08:33] <wib> anolis: where do i get the video driver module?
[08:33] <xtknight> sn9_, oh ?
[08:33] <anolis> wib: i don't have any experience with ati driver installation, maybe someone else can help you.. or you can go to the ati website for further written documentation.
[08:33] <newbee617> sn9_:  i will decide later, anyway ,thanks for your advice!
[08:33] <newb> xtknight: ok u mean i should run them from a terminal after rebooting from the crash?
[08:33] <sn9_> xtknight: yes, otherwise gksu eats it
[08:33] <krsnadasa> can some one please help me install the newest iwl4965 driver ?
[08:33] <wib> anolis: k, thx
[08:33] <Flannel> or gksu "update-manager -yadda -yadda"
[08:33] <chriswr> sn9_: thnx
[08:34] <mistform> xnv, the instructions say to ./configure
[08:34] <xnv> Templar_Xion: Doesn't sound too alarming. What makes you question it?
[08:34] <sn9_> Flannel: you still need the -- IIRC
[08:34] <Buyydee> That did it, thank you guys
[08:34] <Flannel> sn9_: Not if you quote it, no.
[08:34] <cemunal> hi
[08:34] <UbuntuNooB> hiii. i installed dapper 6.06 LTS on my old computer. the installation went fine. after i rebooted my box, only blank display appeared
[08:34] <krsnadasa> sn9_: know anything about wireless drivers?
[08:34] <krsnadasa> anyone ?
[08:34] <sn9_> Flannel: oh, i misread
[08:34] <xtknight> newb, you can watch older logs from a previous reboot in /var/log/
[08:34] <microwaver> krnsawhat's the problem?
[08:34] <xtknight>  /var/log/dmesg  syslog etc
[08:34] <microwaver> krsnadasa, what's the problem?
[08:34] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: why 6.06?
[08:35] <newb> xtknight: ok let me check
[08:35] <Templar_Xion> xnv: My vmware-server only has 1024mb of physical ram and I'm dedicating almost all of it to gui-based VMs
[08:35] <Shak-> xtknight: alrighty, installed both .debs, conflict-resolving time?
[08:35] <sn9_> krsnadasa: yes
[08:35] <UbuntuNooB> sn_9: bcoz my computer is very old.. 600MHz
[08:35] <Templar_Xion> xnv: But I want one system to do apache, possibly gateway based firewall and packet redirection
[08:35] <krsnadasa> microwaver: i can't seem to compile the newest iwl4965 driver
[08:35] <krsnadasa> sn9_: ^^
[08:35] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: that's ok if it has enough ram
[08:35] <xtknight> Shak-, yea did it say anything about lib modules?
[08:35] <xnv> mistform: What is it you are trying to install?
[08:35] <xtknight> if not you may be good
[08:36] <sn9_> krsnadasa: yes, use an older one
[08:36] <Shak-> no it didn't but thats probably because i've got one 2.6.25.10-ultimate directory and one thats just 2.6.25.10 in /lib/modules/ :/
[08:36] <UbuntuNooB> sn9_: cant i do something on it. i tried to boot on recovery mode
[08:36] <Shak-> I thought I had to remove the -ultimate in the changelog to satisfy make
[08:36] <krsnadasa> sn9_: :9 but do the older ones support injection in aircrack ?
[08:36] <xnv> Templar_Xion: I don't know how much RAM Apache uses, but it wouldn't surprise me if you could get it down to 32MB
[08:37] <xnv> Templar_Xion: You'd be better off asking in #apache
[08:37] <sn9_> krsnadasa: no -- you're in a bind then
[08:37] <Templar_Xion> xnv: I think I'll do 64mb to do apache + shorewall
[08:37] <krsnadasa> sn9_: can the new one even do that ?
[08:37] <victamower> anyone using IPv6?
[08:37] <mistform> xnv, ragnarok online client, I think I got it though...
[08:38] <sn9_> krsnadasa: i think it's in development
[08:38] <krsnadasa> sn9_: i saw a posting aobut osmeone getting injection to work but dosent seem like that when i tried
[08:38] <xtknight> Shak-, well can you pastebin what you see after dpkg -i ' ing the two new packages?
[08:38] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: 8.04.1 is still worth a try on it
[08:38] <bullgard4> What programs use (or evaluate) in  /etc/resolve.conf the entry "nameserver 192.168.178.1"?
[08:39] <UbuntuNooB> sn9: actually i tried. but i have only 128MB RAM. my video display adapter is 8MB S3Trio
[08:40] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: oh, yes, with 128, 6.06 is probably as high as you can go
[08:40] <Shak-> xtknight: sure, it looked like it all went well - http://paste.ubuntu.com/26409/
[08:40] <UbuntuNooB> sn9_: it was fine. till i reformated it this morning
[08:40] <UbuntuNooB> sn9_: i've been using Dapper on it since last year
[08:40] <raj_> what is equivelent to Kmail in ubuntu
[08:40] <krsnadasa> sn9_: airdriver says it supports 4965 but when i try to install it, it gives me a funky erroe
[08:40] <krsnadasa> error*
[08:40] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: i just installed 8.04.1 on this laptop
[08:41] <Shak-> xtknight: perhaps I should restart and see how it works?
[08:41] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: i used to have 6.06 on it with 128 until the hd died
[08:41] <UbuntuNooB> ok i will try again
[08:41] <xnv> raj_: Probably Thunderbird or Evolution
[08:41] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: now, it has 256 and works great
[08:41] <UbuntuNooB> but i like Dapper. its fast
[08:42] <UbuntuNooB> do u think it has something to do with my Monitor?
[08:42] <chriswr> can anyone help me install steam.exe on wine?
[08:42] <UbuntuNooB> i changed monitor
[08:42] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: 6.06 had bad problems with s3 drivers
[08:43] <bayden> wine is crap i changed the game from daa to exe file and added it to applications and it doesent work what can run a daa file?
[08:43] <xtknight> Shak-, well splendid, reboot into the new kernel and pray
[08:43] <xtknight> raj_, evolution is a mail program and so is thunderbird
[08:43] <Shak-> xtknight: alrighty, brb
[08:44] <sn9_> sn9_: this laptop i'm on has s3savage, btw
[08:44] <chriswr> can anyone help me install steam.exe on wine? or have a code for it?
[08:44] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: this laptop i'm on has s3savage, btw
[08:44] <raj_> what server name should i give in setting up this ?
[08:44] <sn9_> chriswr: if wine is already installed, just open the .exe
[08:45] <krsnadasa> which iwl4965 driver works with Ubuntu hardy ?
[08:45] <UbuntuNooB> sn9_: but as i said earlier, i used to have Dapper working fine since last year till i reformatted this morning
[08:45] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: you probably did something to fix the video before, and forgot
[08:45] <UbuntuNooB> the installation went smooth. but after i rebooted, it only has a black screen on it
[08:46] <krsnadasa> any one ?
[08:46] <UbuntuNooB> sn9_: i think my monitor
[08:46] <Jordan_U> ubunoob: Have you tried Hardy?
[08:46] <UbuntuNooB> yup.. my newer computer runs on 8.04
[08:46] <sn9_> krsnadasa: generally, the one installed by default, but not for injection
[08:46] <ubunoob> yeah
[08:47] <UbuntuNooB> Jordan_U: u mean on my old machine?
[08:47] <ubunoob> I'm using 8.04.1 right now Jordan
[08:47] <Jordan_U> UbuntuNooB: Yes
[08:47] <Jordan_U> ubunoob: Sorry, my question was for UbuntuNooB
[08:47] <krsnadasa> sn9_: but does the newest support injection ?
[08:47] <sn9_> ubunoob: 8.04.1 will be pretty slow with 128, but i've done it
[08:47] <ubunoob> haha yeah, I can see that now, lol no worries.
[08:48] <Templar_Xion> ubunoob: You can install a GDM like Fluxbox or e16 to speed it up.
[08:48] <krsnadasa> sn9_: also when i run airdriver installed i don't see the 4965 ?
[08:48] <UbuntuNooB> Jordan_U: even if i successfully installed it. it will be very slow on my 600MHz Intel Machine
[08:48] <UbuntuNooB> i only have 128 RAM
[08:48] <Jordan_U> UbuntuNooB: I wouldn't be so sure
[08:49] <Templar_Xion> UbuntuNooB: Ubuntu and most linux distros are surprisingly gentle on older systems.
[08:49] <sn9_> UbuntuNooB: it will probably cost you about $40 to go to 384 or 512 ram
[08:49] <Templar_Xion> sn9_: Try 100$. Old SD memory is expensive as @#%^
[08:49] <sn9_> Templar_Xion: not in the usa, it isn't
[08:50] <sn9_> Templar_Xion: http://dealram.com
[08:50] <Templar_Xion> sn9_: Yeah in the USA... From non corporate places it is less expensive.
[08:50] <Templar_Xion> sn9_: Pcclub hurts for old RAM
[08:50] <Shak-> xtknight: ok, we fixed the sound (hooray), but my nvidia card wasn't detected and im running on 800x600
[08:50] <os2mac> question: when running "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" I get the following message http://paste.ubuntu.com/26411/ . what causes that?
[08:51] <chriswr> xtknight: ah , i got it , it was cause i was using a msi file and its not supported right now , had to download the .exe
[08:51] <Shak-> xtknight: shall I run the nvidia drvier install again?
[08:51] <Jordan_U> os2mac: Have you added any third party repositories?
[08:52] <os2mac> yes
[08:52] <os2mac> wine
[08:52] <sn9_> os2mac: because you typed "upgrade" instead of "dist-upgrade"
[08:52] <bayden> im trying to run a daa file which i changed into a exe file to run a game by wine and its not doing anything
[08:52] <os2mac> ahhhh
[08:52] <os2mac> and just for the knowledge what's the difference exactly?
[08:53] <sn9_> the difference is what you saw
[08:53] <Jordan_U> os2mac: dist-upgrade allows apt to resolve conflicts that require removing packages, but that should not be necessary in most cases unless you have added third party repos ( but wine is pretty trustable )
[08:53] <xtknight> Shak-, ya
[08:53] <os2mac> ok agreed that is the effect, what's the cause?
[08:53] <Shak-> xtknight: but that puzzles me, the kernel is the same so the existing nvidia driver should be detected.. shouldn't it?
[08:53] <Flannel> os2mac: upgrade will only increase version numbers of packages you install.  dist-upgrade will bring in new depends with tose upgrades
[08:53] <xtknight> Shak-, not quite the same, diff rev
[08:54] <os2mac> K, thanks for the lesson and the help.
[08:54] <Findus> Hello. If some patient person would be so kind as to try to help me, that would be wonderful.
[08:54] <sn9_> !anyone | Findus
[08:54] <Findus> Right.
[08:55] <Shak-> xtknight: hmm ok, lemme kill X and do this
[08:55] <chriswr> is there a code in terminal that i can type in to figure out all the other codes?
[08:55] <sn9_> chriswr: man man
[08:56] <Findus> I don't really have a question. Any question I could think of asking I've already punched into Google. I am only looking for someone to prevent me from throwing my laptop out the window.
[08:56] <chriswr> sn9_: all right , thnx
[08:57] <Findus> Windows is eating my laptop alive. I used ubuntu before on my desktop and loved it, even though half the time I didn't knwo what I was doing. Now, i've burned the Ubuntu image on a cd and tried to install it.
[08:57] <Shujah> chriswr, dude you sure love this channel :D
[08:57] <sn9_> Findus: does this mean your googling yielded no answers, or unwelcome answers?
[08:57] <chriswr> shujah: cause im such a noob
[08:57] <viqas> sn9_: answers that are not helpful
[08:57] <chriswr> shujah: :P
[08:57]  * viqas is having troubles getting the rt2500 driver to work with his wireless card
[08:58] <Findus> It either 1) freezes after I click "Install Ubuntu 2) gives me a "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 57840" message.
[08:58] <ikonia> Findus: run the cd ceck program
[08:58] <Shujah> Findus, checked the MD5
[08:58] <ikonia> check
[08:58] <chriswr> has anyone installed steam on their computer?
[08:58] <emanuel> i wanna know if there is a program compatible with msn? i would like to be able to use my web cam and have a display picture.
[08:58] <viqas> Findus: did you burn at 4x?
[08:58] <ikonia> chriswr: tons have used it with wine
[08:58] <ikonia> emanuel: pidgin
[08:58] <Shujah> emanuel, its called amsn
[08:58] <Findus> I did. It said I had an error with one file. But it said that on both cds, so has it just downloaded incorrectly?
[08:58] <saikobee> emanuel: emesene
[08:58] <emanuel> amsn?
[08:58] <sn9_> viqas: for rt2500 on hardy, you should install the pkg linux-backports-modules-hardy
[08:58] <Findus> No, I burned it at 12x. 4x wasn't an option. Will that make a difference?
[08:58] <ikonia> Findus: or burnt incorrectly
[08:59] <Jordan_U> Findus: Probably a bad drive
[08:59] <Findus> Well good lord.
[08:59] <chriswr> ikonia: when i try updating i get a error message saying it couldnt connect , is there a way to fix this that you know of?
[08:59] <viqas> sn9_: lemme try that, i swear i got it to work in 7.10 and then i did the mistake of apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[08:59] <viqas> and lost it
[08:59] <ikonia> chriswr: is your machine connected to the internet ok
[08:59] <Jordan_U> Findus: If there was only a problem with one file you may be able to install using the minimal install CD which grabs most stuff from the net
[08:59] <Shujah> Findus, download image via ftp of main ubunt u site i.e. if you are willing to give it another try
[09:00] <sn9_> Findus: it is possible to install ubuntu with no cd, if the drive has kicked it
[09:00] <Findus> Well, my drive NORMALLY works unless it's decided to go AWOL on me as well, wouldn't surprise me.
[09:00] <Findus> Okay so let's see...
[09:00] <ikonia> Findus: it's probably the disk
[09:01] <Jordan_U> ikonia: He says he has burned multiple disks
[09:01] <Shujah> wubi maybe :|
[09:01] <ikonia> Jordan_U: 2
[09:01] <ikonia> Shujah: how would wubi fix a bad disk ?
[09:01] <Shujah> the iso may be bad it happened to me twice
[09:01] <Findus> <-- girl, just for the record, not that anyone cares.
[09:01] <Jordan_U> ikonia: It would not require a CD ROM drive :)
[09:01] <DistroJockey> Findus, did you check the md5sum of the image you downloaded?
[09:01] <VelcroMan> Where are the icons to the system monitor and other things in the System menu stored?
[09:01] <Shujah> wubi wint fix it it's a whole new ball game altogather :D
[09:02] <Findus> No, Distro, I didn't.
[09:02] <ikonia> Jordan_U: but that is a different install
[09:02] <viqas> Findus: expecting us to drop everything and rush to your service ;)
[09:02] <Findus> I'm not expecting that!
[09:02] <DistroJockey> Findus, give that a try before you download again
[09:02] <Jordan_U> ikonia: Not my suggestion :)
[09:02] <newb> xtknight: u think the problem i'm facing is because i have both the i810 and the intel x-org installed?
[09:03] <Shujah> Findus, google md5 there is site with free tool for checking md5 on windows - most probably the image (iso) was bad
[09:03] <viqas> Findus: just picking
[09:03] <Findus> I'm just chatting, not expecting anyone to help. I'm not really into aggrevating a room full of tech geeks -- I'm homicidal at the moment, not suicidal.
[09:03] <viqas> i second the md5
[09:03] <bayden> whats the name of a program to let me open .daa files?
[09:03] <Findus> Okay, I'll do that, thank you Distro.
[09:03] <VelcroMan> anyone knows?
[09:03] <jin> why can't Ubuntu mount my 4GB memory card automatically? it does it with cards less than 4GB not a 4GB card. :(
[09:03] <viqas> Findus: homicidal is trying to install ubuntu on this laptop that i have on my lap.  no cdrom drive.
[09:03] <DistroJockey> Findus, no problem
[09:03] <sn9_> Findus: oops -- but srsly, consider installing without a cd
[09:04] <Findus> Sad days, viqas.
[09:04] <xtknight> newb, i dont think so .  xorg only runs one at once
[09:04] <ikonia> jin: what type is it, do you mean a usb card, or a sd card
[09:04] <Findus> Where would I do that, sn9?
[09:04] <jin> a sd card. it is a pro duo card
[09:04] <sn9_> viqas: not a prob
[09:04] <Shak-> xtknight: ok this kernel install is perfect now.. can you show me how to remove the old rev, i'm just OCD like that :p
[09:04] <ZHURUI> Who can tell me why I can't click the  "Applications"
[09:04] <xtknight> Shak-, sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.25-press tab
[09:04] <xtknight> and u can probably identify
[09:04] <ikonia> sn9_: this is a new user - checking the md5's of a disc is a much easier route than setting up usb or network based installs
[09:04] <sn9_> Findus, viqas: there are two ways:
[09:05] <Gin> ikonia, I have to mount it manually with the cli, dunno why automount does not work
[09:05] <emanuel> ikonia, the only thing i am able to do in pidgin is chat, i can t use a display picture or use a webcam
[09:05] <viqas> sn9_: i dont need instructions, i learned pxe booting
[09:05] <newb> xtknight: hmmm. i got some weird AIGLX errors in my X.org.log.old saying some visuals are not supported. other than that, i don't see any errors even towards the end of the log file.
[09:05] <sn9_> 1) the network install that ikonia just mentioned
[09:05] <newb> xtknight: all appears normal but the performance is rather sluggish.
[09:05] <Gin> ikonia, the filesystem is fat32
[09:05] <xtknight> newb, hmm i tihnk i get those too though
[09:05] <sn9_> 2) the hd-media installer
[09:05] <xtknight> newb, sounds like hardware acceleration isnt being enabled, maybe new card?
[09:05] <ikonia> Gin: is it a flash card, or a usb drive?
[09:05] <ZHURUI> Who can tell me why I can't click the  "Applications"??
[09:05] <newb> xtknight: it's a pretty old machine.
[09:06] <ikonia> sn9_: hd-media installed, do you mean wubi ?
[09:06] <chriswr> has anyone installed steam and got a could not connect message when its updating at start , plz , i need help?
[09:06] <newb> xtknight: 3 gig Pentium D.
[09:06] <sn9_> ikonia: no -- wubi sucks
[09:06] <Gin> ikonia, it is an sony pro duo 4Gb sd card
[09:06] <ikonia> Gin: is it a sony magic gate ?
[09:06] <Gin> ikonia, yes, I think so
[09:06] <Gin> ikonia, yes, it is
[09:06] <newb> xtknight: it's using EXA for acceleration (whatever EXA is)
[09:07] <xtknight> newb, as opposed to XAA or opengl yeah
[09:07] <ikonia> Gin: I have seen a few problems with magic gate as they put some strange "header" at the start of the disk so ubuntu doesn't get notified it's there/know how to deal with it
[09:07] <ZHURUI> Who can tell me why I can't click the  "Applications"? Thanks.
[09:07] <xtknight> well i think exa is the good one.  but that's xrender 2d acceleration, not 3d that compiz needs
[09:07] <ZHURUI> :'(
[09:07] <xtknight> ZHURUI, your gnome-panel is frozen.  you will probably best reboot
[09:07] <chriswr> shujah: hey , have you ever installed steam on win?
[09:07] <chriswr> shujah: wine*
[09:07] <Gin> ikonia, so if I reformat it on Ubuntu, it should automount it next time?
[09:08] <newb> xtknight: so i should change the option to XAA? i tried that the last time. but it didn't quite help. let me see, if this kernel upgrade helps.
[09:08] <sn9_> ZHURUI: do you have a radeon, perchance?
[09:08] <xtknight> newb, nah exa is fine
[09:08] <ikonia> Gin: you may need to repartition to clear any data in the partition private region, assuming my comment is correct
[09:08] <viqas> ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[09:08] <newb> xtknight: k
[09:09] <viqas> 02:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)  <-- its right there, gah!
[09:09] <ZHURUI> xtknight:already reboot and it is still can't click.
[09:09] <chriswr> shujah: sry , nvm i got it , had to add some stuff after command
[09:09] <newb> xtknight: how do i know which driver it's using? whether it's using xorg-intel or i810?
[09:09] <sn9_> viqas: ifconfig -a
[09:09] <xtknight> newb, xorg.log should tell
[09:09] <viqas> i see one for wlan0
[09:09] <sn9_> viqas: then it's wlan0, not ra0
[09:09] <ZHURUI> sn9_:i have a radeon 9550
[09:09] <xtknight> ZHURUI, sorry, i'm not really sure.  clearly your ubuntu is a bit messed up.  i suggest creating a new user account, and from there you can still get files in your old user account
[09:10] <xtknight> ZHURUI, or maybe you need to disable desktop effects??
[09:10] <sn9_> ZHURUI: hold on, i have something for you to see
[09:10] <viqas> should i replace all the ra0 in /etc/network/interfaces  to wlan0?
[09:10] <xtknight> viqas, if that's what your interface is named
[09:11] <viqas> god im getting old
[09:11] <viqas> cant keep up with change
[09:11] <sn9_> ZHURUI: does this sound like your issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/224379
[09:11] <xtknight> lol well ubuntu is always getting young that is the problem
[09:11] <Shak-> xtknight: well I think we're done here, you mentioned sometime ago that I might have trouble installing 2.6.26, why was that?
[09:11] <ZHURUI> xtknight:I try to disable some desktop effects..
[09:11] <xtknight> Shak-, hmm 26?
[09:12] <xtknight> Shak-, lib modules thing i think thats about it.  but 26 prepatch uses 25 base, still has 25 as major number
[09:12] <viqas> you young wipper snappers would kick my ass at this stuff.
[09:12] <xtknight> ZHURUI, how did you get xchat open without any applicatiosn menu
[09:12] <sn9_> viqas: meh, you're probably younger than half of us
[09:12] <viqas> 24 :/
[09:13] <xtknight> .. :)
[09:13] <viqas> ah ha! it works
[09:13] <sn9_> viqas: i'm older, for one...
[09:13] <Findus> Aw, we're all bonding. I'm 23.
[09:13] <xtknight> 17
[09:13] <Shak-> 17? :O
[09:13] <sn9_> i'm reasonably sure that Flannel is older than i am, too
[09:13] <Shak-> you know alot for your age
[09:13] <xtknight> start early ;p
[09:13] <viqas> ha
[09:14] <newbee617>  god . xtkight is 17
[09:14] <viqas> xtknight: when i was your age i was using debian and starting out college
[09:14] <viqas> i switched from redhat 7.2
[09:14] <viqas> i think i was 16 when i did that
[09:14] <xtknight> viqas, ah i think i touched linux when i was around 10 i dunno playing xevil or something
[09:15] <newbee617> any one older than me . i am 278
[09:15] <sn9_> when i was 17, linux still wasn't at 1.0 yet
[09:15] <newbee617> 27
[09:15] <viqas> at 10 i was trying to figure out how to get the hell out of OS/2 so i can play my video games
[09:15] <Findus> What's the easiest way to check the md5sum of an .iso file?
[09:15] <xtknight> ZHURUI, you can run "DISPLAY=:0 gnome-appearance-properties"   in a big console called TTY  and get it to load on your desktop.  switch back to desktop with ctrl alt f7.  and then in there try to disable desktop effects
[09:15] <ZHURUI>  xtknight:I have a Terminal can use anyway.
[09:15] <viqas> Findus:  in windows?
[09:15] <xtknight> Findus, md5sum isofile.iso
[09:15] <viqas> get the command line tool, start -> run -> cmd
[09:15] <xtknight> ZHURUI, or just gnome-appearance-properties in a desktop terminal
[09:15] <cappiz> when i installed the server edition, i entered a username and password. those credentials works. BUt im not in the sudoers list? how do i gain root access then???
[09:16] <viqas> md5sum.exe yippityyah.iso
[09:16] <hateball> Boot the machine in recovery mode cappiz
[09:16] <leobloom> hello
[09:16] <sn9_> !hi | leobloom
[09:17] <cappiz> hateball, isnt this a big "bug" ?
[09:17] <hateball> And add the account to /etc/sudoers
[09:17] <leobloom> I try asking here since on the Italian chan nobody answers
[09:17] <Frogzoo> cappiz: boot recovery mode and add yourself to the admin group 'adduser admin you'
[09:17] <hateball> Perhaps, never happened to me tho :)
[09:17] <cappiz> lol, that easy
[09:18] <cappiz> the thing is, i cant do that
[09:18] <cappiz> im using vmware server
[09:19] <cappiz> so i cant connect to the console fast enough
[09:19] <hateball> You can set a boot delay
[09:19] <hateball> in x milliseconds
[09:19] <sn9_> cappiz: try vmware player temporarily
[09:19] <hateball> iirc
[09:19] <Jordan_U> cappiz: Yes you can, you just need more caffeine
[09:20] <itguru> Can anyone recommend a howto document with regards to building an email server that sits in front of MS Exchange - which can poll a catch all pop account, and then forward that to the exchange box?
[09:21] <fuln> hi all
[09:21] <Findus> It's telling my that my iso file doesn't exist. "No such file" -- and yes, I'm sure I'm typing the file name correctly.
[09:21] <sn9_> !tab | Findus
[09:21] <ikonia> itguru: thats quite straight forward, your MX record just becomes the the server in front of exchange, then that just relays to the hostname of the exchange server
[09:21] <Jordan_U> Findus: Are you in the correct directory?
[09:21] <Findus> Right, thank you.
[09:22] <ZHURUI> My computer is ok now,thanks!
[09:22] <Sivam> hi all
[09:22] <sn9_> !hi | Sivam
[09:22] <Sivam> the hard disk is consuming more space
[09:22] <Sivam> due to gvfs daemon
[09:22] <fuln> hi, where I can download any drivers ubuntu ?
[09:22] <sn9_> ZHURUI: sure, but for how long?
[09:22] <Sivam> can any one help me
[09:22] <Findus> Wouldn't it be just as easy to tell him hi instead of typing out a bot command? :)
[09:23] <leobloom> I have a big problem with adsl connection, I 've always had this isnceedgy but before I simply tried reinstalling  distros via alternate mode and it worked now i installed hardy via wubi and the problem is back, as i try setting the pppoe with pppoeconf i get an error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26415/  I copied it, that's the message I get in the shell, please help me out!
[09:23] <Sivam> hi all
[09:23] <sn9_> fuln: they are all already there
[09:23] <itguru> ikonia, it's not that straight forward, basically, the email is handled by the domain host, and the MX record points to thier servers. We're polling a POP box on that server, to download the emails, and then deliver them to an internal email server, rather than expose the exchange server to the real world
[09:23] <Sivam> gvfs-fuse-daemon is consuming more diskspace in hdd
[09:23] <Sivam> how to recover ?
[09:23] <Jordan_U> Sivam: What do you mean "The hard disk is consuming more space" ?
[09:23] <sn9_> Findus: tab completion makes it even easier
[09:24] <fuln> ehm..It's for Broadcom Wifi driver ?
[09:24] <Findus> I like my fingers getting a workout
[09:24] <ikonia> itguru: no problem then, you just need a mailbox on your box infront of exchange, use something like fetchmail to drag everything down, then have rule based forwarding to go to exchange
[09:24] <Jordan_U> Sivam: What makes you think that gvfs is using disk space?
[09:24] <b4l7424r> how do i display the nicklist permanently in xchat gnome?
[09:25] <Sivam> no
[09:25] <Sivam> I understand that the gvfs is taking is more space
[09:25] <Sivam> I got this from df -k output
[09:25] <sn9_> fuln: temporarily connect by ethernet, and "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"
[09:25] <Shak-> xtknight: update manager is still giving me updates for my old kernel (2.6.24), is there a way to turn that off, I dont see any point in updating an old kernel
[09:25] <Sivam> df -k
[09:25] <itguru> ikonia, I went down the fetchmail root - it keep changing the recipient, so instead of being georgebush@domain.name , it became fetchmailuser@domain.name
[09:25] <leobloom> please --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26415/  what can I do to connect  via adsl?
[09:26] <Sivam> Jordan_U: df -k is showing , gvfs-fuse-daemon as 4900000 4700000
[09:26] <DistroJockey> b4l7424r, ctrl+F7  ?
[09:26] <fuln> Where link for download it ? bcause I'm offline and can't connect internet
[09:26] <fuln> please
[09:26] <sn9_> Sivam: gvfs is a virtual filesystem -- it doesn't take space in reality
[09:26] <elo_> #umm
[09:27] <elo_> you're on irc
[09:27] <elo_> how are u offline?
[09:27] <ikonia> itguru: that shouldn't happen, but to be fair thats even easier, as you can gen just set the mai server to forward fetchmail@anything to your exchange server
[09:27] <Gin> ikonia, you were right. I repartitioned  the disc and now it works fine.
[09:27] <elo_> irc = INTERNET relay chat
[09:27] <ikonia> Gin: great.
[09:27] <sn9_> fuln: use the wired connection temporarily
[09:27] <Findus> Hee hee.
[09:27] <Gin> still need to test it with my phone first
[09:27] <itguru> ikonia, if we did that, then everyone will lose thier mail - because it will all go to the fecthmail user?
[09:27] <digitaltao> anyone get "lively" working yet?
[09:28] <ikonia> itguru: does it actually change the headers, or the file its stored in.
[09:28] <sn9_> fuln: it will need to make a second download after installation, so you need internet first anyway
[09:28] <itguru> ikonia, It changed the headers
[09:28] <Findus> A friend of mine did... I haven't tried since my computer is eating itself. He says it's nice, but a memory hog.
[09:28] <ikonia> itguru: then it's not setup correct
[09:28] <ikonia> itguru: contact your provider and just change the MX record, that is much easier
[09:28] <digitaltao> Findus: yea i think i am going to mess with it now
[09:29] <Sivam> sn9_: so what might be the cause
[09:30] <Sivam> sn9_: /dev/sda1 is showing   available: 4916892 used:4799736
[09:30] <sn9_> Sivam: i don't really know, but my point is that it shouldn't matter
[09:30] <sn9_> Sivam: oh, sda1 is different
[09:30] <Shoopuf> How do I connect an iPhone to Ubuntu? I want to grab some files from the iPhone like it is a hard disk.
[09:30] <itguru> ikonia, I'll look into that, thanks for the tip
[09:30] <Sivam> ok is there any way to identify the process which is causing trouble ?
[09:30] <digitaltao> Shoopuf
[09:30] <fuln> ehm..so, I can't download it.?
[09:30] <digitaltao> its more a problem of having the iphone unlocked
[09:31] <sn9_> Sivam: du -ham /*|sort -gr
[09:31] <Jordan_U> Sivam: gvfs creates a virtual file system so that any program can use it, even if they don't understand gvfs
[09:31] <sn9_> Sivam: du -ham /*|sort -gr|head
[09:31] <digitaltao> shoopuf: once you unlock the iphone it is very easy to access the internal hard drive
[09:31] <Sivam> in my machine I dont have any other program running other than a gnome-terminal
[09:31] <Shoopuf> digitaltao: its unlocked
[09:31] <Jordan_U> Sivam: The same way you can mount an iso and it will show up in df but isn't using more space, the gvfs mount is just another way of accessing the same files
[09:32] <digitaltao> Shoopuf: let me grab my iphone real quick you will have to install some packages
[09:32] <amatson97> hey hey guys has anyone got a logitech pro9000 i am runing ubuntu HH 8.04 and i have only manage to get it to work in cheese intermittently
[09:32] <Sivam> ok I got the output of du -ham
[09:33] <sn9_> amatson97: any method to the madness?
[09:33] <leobloom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26415/ <--- help!!!! Please!!!!
[09:33] <digitaltao> Shoopuf: bsd subsystem and Open SSH need to be installed on the iphone
[09:33] <fuln> !ping sn9_
[09:33] <sn9_> fuln: i'm still here
[09:33] <fuln> sorry
[09:33] <Sivam> sn9_: /usr, /usr/src, /usr/src/linux, /lib,/usr/share, /lib/modules , /lib/modules/kernelver/kernel, /usr/lib
[09:34] <fuln> can I downloads for manually installation
[09:34] <Sivam> but the highest usage by /usr is 3501
[09:34] <amatson97> well some people say it works out the box some dont i am running in circles
[09:34] <sn9_> Sivam: then your partition is just way too small -- those are normal sizes
[09:34] <Shoopuf> digitaltao: ok he says he has all that stuff on it
[09:35] <Findus> Thanks for your help. I'm going to go see what I can do.
[09:35] <schmrz> leobloom: either it doesn't recognize your device (modem) or you didn't specify it correctly.
[09:35] <Sivam> I did not faced this issue till yesterday
[09:35] <Sivam> I have been using this machine for past 4 months
[09:35] <digitaltao> and then all he should need is
[09:35] <leobloom> schmrz: and wqhayt should i do to specify it? i followed the wizard as always
[09:35] <sn9_> amatson97: if it works at all, that's more than what some people get
[09:35] <Shoopuf> digitaltao: I am plugging it in via USB. . . . forgot to say that :(
[09:36] <Gin> ikonia, if I put my card in my phone (w800i) and then pull it out and put it back into my card reader, ubuntu can't automount it. it seems my phone is doing something to the partition before using the card. :(
[09:36] <digitaltao> Shoopuf thats fine
[09:36] <Sivam> But recently I compiled a kernel
[09:36] <Jordan_U> Sivam: What "issue" ? There is nothing wrong that I see
[09:36] <digitaltao> Shoopuf: get the ipod-convenience package in ubuntu
[09:36] <ikonia> Gin: quite plausable
[09:36] <Gin> ikonia, any work around to mount it automatically when it is inserted ? assuming it always show up as /dev/sde1 ?
[09:36] <schmrz> leobloom: What kind of connection do you use? (ADSL, Cable)
[09:36] <Shoopuf> digitaltao: ok one sec gotta switch to ubuntu
[09:36] <alesan> Hi I am struggling to install openssh-server on a remote machine
[09:36] <ikonia> Gin: refernce it via uuid and put it in fstab
[09:37] <digitaltao> sudo apt-get install ipod-convenience
[09:37] <alesan> my girl is on the chat and she's trying to install it
[09:37] <sn9_> Sivam: kernel building takes a lot of space
[09:37] <leobloom> schmrz: adsl
[09:37] <Gin> ikonia, how to find the uuid? is the uuid unique per device?
[09:37] <leobloom> schmrz: via ewthernet, on win it works out of the boxo.O
[09:37] <alesan> she gets a E: package openssh-server has no installation candidate
[09:37] <ikonia> Gin: blkid
[09:37] <schmrz> leobloom: What device did u specify in the wizard?
[09:38] <Gin> ikonia, blkid does not show anything
[09:38] <raj_> i cant send and receive the mails in evolution  can any one help ?
[09:38] <sn9_> alesan: is that on 8.04?
[09:38] <Sivam> sn9_: but it is also showing another , du: cannot access /proc/5439/task/5439/fd/3
[09:38] <DistroJockey> Gin, sudo blkid shows better
[09:38] <sn9_> Sivam: that's ok
[09:39] <pbn> Hello, how can I change the list of locales on 8.04 ? It appears dpkg-reconfigure locales generates the locales, but I cannot choose them...
[09:39] <ikonia> Gin: mount the disk first
[09:39] <leobloom> schmrz: I didn't specify any manually it just recoognized that modem was attched and on and it went right thrugh the end of the wizard without prblemms but as soon as it comes back to theshell i  have this message
[09:39] <aimaz> (09:37:30) alesan: she gets a E: package openssh-server has no installation candidate
[09:39] <aimaz> check the repositories
[09:39] <schmrz> leobloom: Did u use pppoeconfig?
[09:39] <aimaz> make sure they are all there and enabled
[09:39] <SidneyZeng> Hey guys, who can tell me how to link my Sony Ericsson k810 to the computer? I'm crazy now.
[09:39] <Sivam> my friend says that it is due to the folder .dbus ?
[09:40] <leobloom> schmrz: sudo pppoeconf dsl-provider is whayt i wrote
[09:40] <ocs__>  hi. how can i force an x window app (my_app) to be displayed at position x,y on the screen ?
[09:40] <schmrz> leobloom: Then u had to specify a device on the start of the wizard. Probably eth0...
[09:40] <alesan> aimaz: can you help me, I am using kubuntu and I do not have synaptic
[09:41] <leobloom> schmrz: i only have one eth, it must be eth0. no?
[09:41] <schmrz> leobloom: y
[09:41] <alesan> aimaz: what is the button or menu item in synaptic to open the repo config
[09:41] <Shoopuf_> who was the guy helping me with the iphone? :/
[09:41] <SidneyZeng> Hey guys, who can tell me how to link my Sony Ericsson k810 to the computer? I'm crazy now.
[09:41] <Jordan_U> alesan: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:41] <SidneyZeng> :-(
[09:41] <Shoopuf> who was the guy helpin me with the iphone? :/
[09:41] <aimaz> alesan: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[09:41] <Jordan_U> SidneyZeng: Is it a bluetooth phone?
[09:42] <alesan> Jordan_U: evidently not
[09:42] <alesan> aimaz: why are you interested? her pc is a ubuntu 7.10
[09:42] <alesan> my pc has no role in all of this
[09:42] <alesan> only, I cannot suggest her the appropriate thing to do
[09:43] <pbn> Hi, what is the most elegant manner to have ubuntu automatically update itself ? I am thinking of putting aptitude update && aptitude upgrade in root's crontab. Is that a good idea ?
[09:43] <SidneyZeng> Jordan_U:Yes,but my computer haven't Bluetooth...
[09:43] <alesan> because I do not have synaptic
[09:43] <Shoopuf> I'm trying to get my iPhone to work in Ubuntu... I have it plugged in via USB... I downloaded some package called ipod-convenience ... I wanna grab some files from the IPhone liike it was a hard disk
[09:43] <aimaz> alesan: ok, if you open /etc/apt/source.list and check what repositories are in there
[09:43] <Jordan_U> alesan: Can she pastebin her /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:43] <alesan> it'd take too much time
[09:44] <timandtom> I need something to do some REALLY basic .mov editting. Just cutting pieces out/adding pieces in/adding some text. The simpler the better. Any suggestions?
[09:44] <alesan> can you tell me which menu item or button opens the repo config in synaptic?
[09:45] <Jordan_U> alesan: You can get to the repo config from System -> Administration -> Software Sources ( it's the same window as you get opening it from synaptic, can't remember how to get to it through synaptic )
[09:45] <Shoopuf> I'm trying to get my iPhone to work in Ubuntu... I have it plugged in via USB... I downloaded some package called ipod-convenience ... I wanna grab some files from the IPhone liike it was a hard disk
[09:46] <SidneyZeng> who can tell me how to link my Sony Ericsson k810 to the computer?
[09:47] <Jordan_U> Shoopuf: I have no idea how up to date / accurate this is but it might help : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[09:47] <sn9_> timandtom: nothing simple for .mov -- only .dv; only cinelerra does .mov afaik
[09:47] <Gin> ikonia, what do I add to fstab to allow a user to write and umount the device?
[09:47] <MrFlex> I'll think about it
[09:47] <ne2k__> I have installed Ubuntu using Wubi on XPSP2 and have been using it happily for a month now. I want to move to a partition (I've heard there are some potential problems with wubi and windows updates -- plus, it's obviously a little bit slower) and retain all the data I have stored. is there an EASYPEASY way to do this? I can probably work out the not-so-easy-peasy way, but I just wondered if...
[09:47] <ne2k__> ...someone had already worked out an easypeasy way
[09:48] <ne2k__> Shoopuf: as far as I know, the iPhone does not support that
[09:48] <sn9_> ne2k__: is rsync easypeasy enough?
[09:48] <timandtom> sn9_, Ah, dang. Would I be able to convert the .mov to something, edit it, then convert back? It doesn't hafta end up at .mov specifically(But it does START as .mov), just as long as YouTube reads it.
[09:48] <ne2k__> sn9_: I was thinking more about the aspect of resizing my windows partition and not hosing XP
[09:48] <lewser> Running Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy. when trying to chroot into any folder, i get "chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory" . /bin/bash exists and works fine. ldd shows nothing wrong. any suggestions ?
[09:48] <Jordan_U> ne2k__: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[09:49] <sn9_> timandtom: you'd get generational loss with each conversion, and it would take even longer
[09:49] <Shoopuf> ne2k__,  I installed a package called ipod-convenience and then it asked me for the IP of my iphone but it isnt on a network it is connected via usb...
[09:49] <cmndkeen> i choosed swfdec in firefox, now i want to try another flash player, how to?
[09:50] <aimaz> (09:43:46) alesan: it'd take too much time
[09:50] <aimaz> when people are taking the time to help you that is a bad attitude
[09:50] <alesan> aimaz: ??
[09:50] <alesan> she would need half an hour to do that
[09:50] <Gin> blkid shows that /dev/sde1 is UUID="4875-C8D9" TYPE="vfat" . but when I use that uuid in fstab it gives me an error:  mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/4875-C8D9 does not exist
[09:50] <aimaz> I'd rather waste your time than mine
[09:50] <gp>  hi
[09:51] <gp> all my systems in office started behaving strangely around 8 pm ist
[09:51] <gp> all services super slow in lan
[09:51] <gp> but if i ssh my local computer by ip it takes lot of time
[09:51] <gp> its happens in 100% ubuntu network in office
[09:51] <gp> windows box was working fine
[09:51] <gp> all services super slow in lan
[09:51] <alesan> aimaz: that's the point I don't want to watse your time so I am looking for the fastest solution to the problem no?
[09:51] <gp> eralier it was instaneius
[09:52] <gp> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26294/
[09:52] <leobloom> schmrz: i tried again butwithoutsuccess, even if i try choosing no at the first window message it goes back to eth0
[09:52] <gp>  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26294/ ->>> output of  dig +trace err.no | ts
[09:53] <gp> is it bug in ubuntu ?
[09:53] <gp> ping respponse time are sub milli sec
[09:53] <timandtom> sn9_, Ah, dang... How complicated is that other program you mentioned, the one for .mov?
[09:53] <cmndkeen> HOW TO CHANGE FROM SWFDEC TO GNASH OR ADOBE?
[09:53] <Gin> ikonia, I have add the device in fstab and yet it does not automount it :( here is the line I have added:
[09:53] <Gin> /dev/sde1  /media/pduo  auto    rw,user,auto 0 0
[09:53] <jpds> !caps | cmndkeen
[09:54] <sn9_> timandtom: think final cut pro
[09:54] <gp> is this the right chanel for support ?
[09:54] <bullgard4> [GNOME] What is the name of the small window which appears in the middle of the screen if you press Alt+Tab and do not use Compiz?
[09:54] <cmndkeen> gp: no
[09:54] <Jordan_U> gp:  Yes it is
[09:54] <gp> ok
[09:54] <cmndkeen> Jordan_U: lies
[09:55] <timandtom> sn9_, eh? The extent of my video program knowledge is SUPER and nanompeg(For converting stuff from my TV tuner, and for cutting it before I convert)
[09:55] <sn9_> bullgard4: task switcher?
[09:55] <gp> cmndkeen: why r wasting ur time then ? ;-)
[09:55] <bullgard4> sn9_: Right.
[09:55] <alesan> what is the name of a graphica file editor in gnome?
[09:55] <sn9_> timandtom: look at its website
[09:55] <Sivam> sn9_: Hi sorry for disturbance, the /usr/src folder had got the source code which took 3 GB
[09:55] <alesan> I mean, a GUI text editor
[09:55] <sn9_> alesan: gedit
[09:55] <alesan> thanks
[09:55] <someone_1> hi! I'v got a problem. I can't login to my computer
[09:56] <schmrz> leobloom: what output do u get with ifconfig?
[09:56] <sparcdr> Ajunta's a pretty good C/C++ (GTK/GNOME) IDE too
[09:56] <newb> can anyone tell me how i can figure out which xserver driver is being used by my comp?
[09:56] <sparcdr> newb: yes
[09:56] <Sivam> Jordan_U: Thx, I deleted the kernel source
[09:56] <db92> need assistance, my fglrx drivers got screwed up when updating to 2.6.24-19
[09:56] <timandtom> sn9_, dang xD Theres buttons and bars and THINGS. Meh, I'll just save this till I'm on WinXP in a few days. Thanks anyways :)
[09:56] <sparcdr> one sec newb
[09:56] <newb> sparcdr: how :)?
[09:56] <sn9_> newb: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:56] <sparcdr> yeah
[09:56] <leobloom> schmrz: aminute i have to copy everything
[09:56] <sparcdr> sn9 beat me
[09:57] <someone_1> can someone help me please?
[09:57] <db92> i tried deleting them through envy, restarting, reinstalling, restarting once again, but it still gets f-'d up when i launch something
[09:57] <newb> sn9_ ok actually i m looking at it right now in vi and i want to know whether the i810 xorg or the intel xorg is being used. how do u suppose i can figure that out?
[09:57] <Jordan_U> someone_1: What happens when you try to login?
[09:57] <db92> that needs 3d, most of the times windows applications through wine. when i asked for relevant support in wine yesterday, they told me it was the gfx driver
[09:57] <sn9_> newb: 8.04 doesn't use i810 -- only intel
[09:57] <someone_1> i type in my username and it gives me : Authentication failed
[09:57] <someone_1> it gives me that whatever I type as username
[09:58] <sparcdr> hmm
[09:58] <newb> sn9_ but i suspect it is using i810 instead of intel
[09:58] <someone_1> even in the non-Gui mode
[09:58] <newb> sn9_ because my screen is freezing on compiz
[09:58] <sn9_> newb: not in 8.04, it isn't
[09:58] <George> Is there a way to record video and audio from the webcam and from the laptop's mic?
[09:58] <sparcdr> glxinfo|less :o
[09:58] <gp> ping respponse time are sub milli sec
[09:59] <George> of course there is a way, but i mean what is the program's name.
[09:59] <gp>  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26294/ ->>> output of  dig +trace err.no | ts
[09:59] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: easy fix is to boot from live cd, find /etc/shadow, look for user names there, then if you don't know the password, delete the hash (2nd arg in colons I believe)
[09:59] <newb> sn9_ hmmm then how do u suppose i can resolve my issue? X.log.old isn't giving any errors. i'm just getting frozen screens on i945 which wasn't happening in Gutsy
[09:59] <gp> all services super slow in lan
[09:59] <someone_1> I know my password
[09:59] <sparcdr> if you're using nvidia, it clearly tells you the driver revision, opengl revision/implementation, and if you're using mesa, it says so, and might even say you're using an intel card
[09:59] <someone_1> but it doesn;t ask me for it
[09:59] <sparcdr> just another way if seeing
[09:59] <sparcdr> *of
[09:59] <sn9_> newb: try turning off compiz
[09:59] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: or if you can log in as root you can list users
[10:00] <newb> sn9_: but i want compiz :(
[10:00] <someone_1> it stops me from doind anything after I type my username
[10:00] <newb> sn9_ gutsy was working so beautifully with compiz
[10:00] <sparcdr> sparcdr@uranium:~$ glxinfo|grep "OpenGL version"
[10:00] <sparcdr> OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 169.12
[10:00] <someone_1> i've been in the passwd and group files and all of that
[10:00] <gp> cmndkeen: why r wasting ur time then ? ;-)
[10:00] <someone_1> Whatever I type,it gives me Authentication error
[10:00] <gp> all services super slow in lan
[10:00] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: even for root?
[10:00] <gp>  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26294/ ->>> output of  dig +trace err.no | ts
[10:00] <sn9_> newb: yeah, that sounds like the issue they're working on
[10:00] <someone_1> Yeah
[10:01] <someone_1> I type root
[10:01] <gp> its happens in 100% ubuntu network in office
[10:01] <newb> newb_ actually even if i turn off compiz, it's of no use. :( still bad performance. i can only seem to use failsafe.
[10:01] <sn9_> !RootSudo | someone_1
[10:01] <gp> but if i ssh my local computer by ip it takes lot of time
[10:01] <someone_1> and it says Authentication error (Gui)  and Login incorrect (NON-GUI)
[10:01] <gp> is it bug in ubuntu ?
[10:01] <gp> ping respponse time are sub milli sec
[10:02] <hateball> you can disable dns lookup for ssh
[10:02] <sn9_> someone_1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:02] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: your auth.log in /var/log/ might give you some clues, again live cd if you can't get in under any user
[10:02] <chuy_max> George, maybe recordmydesktop
[10:02] <someone_1> i'll try and paste the auth.log soon
[10:03] <leobloom> schmrz: her is the first part the oneabouteth0, now i copy the part starting with "lo" if you need it http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/390179/
[10:03] <George> chuy_max, I'll take a look.. thanks
[10:03] <chuy_max> np
[10:03] <gp> yohooooooooooo
[10:03] <George> chuy_max, this doesn't use the webcam, I want something that uses the webcam.
[10:04] <koshari> is this update for phishing defece?dnsutils (1:9.4.2-10) to 1:9.4.2-10ubuntu0.1
[10:04]  * sn9_ bids the channel farewell
[10:05] <chuy_max> George, maybe take a look at camstream description?, you can always take a look at repositories and search for keywords
[10:06] <chuy_max> gotta go
[10:06] <someone_1> HERE IS THE AUTH.LOG
[10:07] <someone_1> Jul 10 08:03:22 ubuntu login[8855]: pam_unix(login:session): session opened for user ubuntu by (uid=0)
[10:07] <leobloom> schmrz: be right back in casei dont solve with the nexttry
[10:07] <someone_1> Jul 10 08:03:29 ubuntu gdm[8678]: pam_unix(gdm-autologin:session): session opened for user ubuntu by (uid=0)
[10:07] <someone_1> Jul 10 08:04:46 ubuntu gnome-keyring-daemon[9073]: adding removable location: volume_uuid_890C_F46A at /media/STANISLAV'S
[10:07] <someone_1> Jul 10 08:17:03 ubuntu CRON[10217]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[10:07] <someone_1> Jul 10 08:17:03 ubuntu CRON[10217]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[10:07] <db92> uhm
[10:07] <someone_1> Jul 10 08:20:21 ubuntu sudo:   ubuntu : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/ubuntu ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/bin/su
[10:07] <someone_1> Jul 10 08:20:22 ubuntu sudo: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by ubuntu(uid=0)
[10:07] <FloodBot2> someone_1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:07] <db92> pastebin
[10:07] <someone_1> Jul 10 08:20:22 ubuntu sudo: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root
[10:07] <_max_> in ubuntu 8.04, is it vncserver thats being used for the remote desktop part ?
[10:08] <_max_> the gui for it seems kinda flaky, i enabled it, set a password, later on wanted to change the password, changed and pressed okey, but when i now try login it accepts neither old or new password.
[10:08] <_max_> normally with vnc you had to restart the daemon.
[10:08] <someone_1> I don't think the auth.log has logs of me trying to login unsuccessfully
[10:09] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: it will get all the console attempts
[10:10] <someone_1> can you see the auth.log
[10:10] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: I think the gui attempts are in syslog or something
[10:10] <_max_> and now after a reboot the machine wont even let me enter a vnc password to try login.
[10:10] <powertoo1|lappy> yes
[10:10] <someone_1> is it enough or you want something else too
[10:11] <someone_1> like syslog  or sth else
[10:11] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: I just upgraded to 8.04 tonight from 7.04, I had root enabled before, I tried to su to root and get authentication failure as well
[10:11] <Kartagis> can i have both ff3 and ff2 on my system?
[10:11] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: so at least with su its probably just because of ubuntu's default way of handling root
[10:12] <DistroJockey> Kartagis, yep
[10:12] <someone_1> ???
[10:12] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: by default you can't log in as root, you use sudo, and your sudo password is your password, not root's password
[10:13] <Kartagis> DistroJockey: how?
[10:13] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: so since ubuntu locks the root account, you won't be able to log into it unless you unlock it, so that part is normal
[10:13] <someone_1> how can I unlock it
[10:13] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: not being able to log in as your normal user, however, is not
[10:13] <E_THR33> I copied a folder from a dvd to my documents and it shows up with a lock icon next to it and I cant delete files within the folder, how do I give myself full rights to the folder?
[10:13] <someone_1> yep
[10:14] <someone_1> especially preventing me even from typing my password
[10:14] <sigma_> whens alpha2 due out for intrepid?
[10:14] <Kartagis> E_THR33: man chown
[10:14] <E_THR33> man chown?
[10:14] <DistroJockey> Kartagis, sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[10:15] <someone_1> powertool, any ideas?
[10:15] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: I'm looking on google
[10:15] <someone_1> ok 10x
[10:16] <E_THR33> what is man chown Kartagis
[10:16] <powertoo1|lappy> E_THR33: man = manual page
[10:16] <Kartagis> E_THR33: what's your username?
[10:16] <powertoo1|lappy> E_THR33: chown = change owner
[10:17] <E_THR33> my username is Master
[10:17] <Shoopuf> Is there a way to make the "window resize hotspots" larger? As it is now I have to move the mouse within a 2-pixel hotspot to drag the window to be larger or smaller. :( ??
[10:17] <Kartagis> E_THR33: chown -R Master /path/to/dir
[10:17] <E_THR33> Kartagis ^
[10:18] <wuxia_> man X <-- brings up nothing ... which manpages do i need to install?
[10:19] <hoxu> I/O errors from mass storage devices don't seem to turn up in syslog on ubuntu, although they do show up on RHEL and Debian. What files have been tweaked to disable them?
[10:19] <E_THR33> that didnt do any thing Kartagis
 , I managed to login in recovery mode as myself with the command : sudo -i -u username
[10:20] <someone_1> do you think something can be done from here
[10:20] <ne2k__> does partitionmanager actually work? I mean, it's not going to hose my XP, is it? can it really resize an NTFS partition?
[10:20] <Kartagis> E_THR33: try chmod -R 755 /path/to/dir
[10:20] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: yes, the question is what exactly needs to be changed so it won't happen again...
[10:20] <DistroJockey> ne2k__, always have a backup :)
[10:21] <someone_1> it must be somehting in a conf file that is in charge of the login
[10:21] <Kartagis> DistroJockey: the command firefox-2 starts up ff3
[10:21] <Buyydee> Hey, I just upgraded to Hardy and now my Window decorations don't work properly, I use Compiz and Emerald. But the decoration I'm seeing isn't the one from Emerald and it only appears on the active window. What's wrong here?
[10:21] <DistroJockey> Kartagis, not if you close all ff3's
[10:22] <Kartagis> DJ hmm let me try that
[10:22] <E_THR33> chmod worked, thanks Kartagis
[10:22] <kate_mins> Hello, I need help please ,  its seems Wget doesn't feature JavaScript support and is not capable of performing recursive retrieval of URLs included in JavaScript code. does someone can knows about software for command line like wget that's can support also javascript ?
[10:22] <tomy> hi wwhen i open my terminal i get just white screen
[10:22] <Kartagis> np E_THR33
[10:22] <ne2k__> I don't seem to be able to find the packages partitionmanager and lvpm as described in this tutorial http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[10:23] <ne2k__> i guess they're not part of the repository
[10:23] <tomy> hi wwhen i open my terminal i get just white screen i can't type anything on it i just see white  shaded screen what to do  to re install terminal or what
[10:23] <newb> sn9_: u need to uninstall the i810 drivers to get it working
[10:23] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: look in /etc/nologin and see if your username is listed
[10:23] <kamaly> hello guys
[10:24] <Roshev> ubuntu sux
[10:24] <tomy> hi wwhen i open my terminal i get just white screen i can't type anything on it i just see white  shaded screen what to do  to re install terminal or what any help pls
[10:24] <powertoo1|lappy> Roshev: how so?
[10:24] <someone_1> when I am in etc and type cat nologin i, it says there is no such file
[10:24] <Roshev> х3
[10:25] <newb> attn for those who use i945GM/GME/whatever ;) on Hardy, just make sure ur using the intel drivers instead of the i810 drivers. the i810 drivers give sluggish performance and are used by default. remove them using apt with the command apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-i810. hopefully the freezing problems of compiz disappear after this
[10:25] <tomy> hi wwhen i open my terminal i get just white screen i can't type anything on it i just see white  shaded screen what to do  to re install terminal or what any help pls
[10:26] <Kartagis> DistroJockey: it worked, thanks
[10:26] <someone_1> maybe it's somewhere else
[10:26] <DistroJockey> Kartagis, you're welcome
[10:26] <ne2k__> right, I'm off to move from wubi to a dedicated partition!
[10:26] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: doubtful, I got that from the login man page
[10:26] <someone_1> what happens if there is no such file
[10:26] <Raheem> ne2k__, there is a download link on top of that page itself, right ?
[10:27] <Shujah> howdy all
[10:27] <someone_1> do you think that this is what stops everything from logging in
[10:27] <someone_1> may e when there is no such file
[10:27] <ne2k__> Raheem: I found it. I was just looking in the ubuntu repository. it looked a bit like a ubuntu page (because the screenshots were ubuntu) and I'm not quite awake yet ;-)
[10:27] <someone_1> it reads every user as nologin
[10:27] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: I wouldn't think it would matter, as that file looked to be where you put non-root users you want to block from login
[10:28] <kamaly> hello all..is there anyone in here who has done falcon repo manager pls need some pointers...??
[10:28] <someone_1> may be I can't see it because I am with my username
[10:28] <someone_1> not logged as root
[10:28] <tomy> hi wwhen i open my terminal i get just white screen i can't type anything on it i just see white  shaded screen what to do  to re install terminal or what any help pls
[10:28] <someone_1> I'll, try as root
[10:28] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: I found it in my /etc but it wasn't a text file, just cd /etc and type nolo<tab>
[10:28] <knittl> hi fellows! i have narrowed down my problem. after hibernation i can only get a network connection if i either have amarok playing a song or rhythmbox open (playing or paused). can this be pulseaudio related? after normal boot all works fine
[10:28] <balle_> i have a problem logging on my wireless internet, does ubuntu accept wpa2-PSK encryptions?
[10:28] <markus_> hi there, I have a problem, my keyboard layout gets resetted upon every reboot... it changes from swiss german to german
[10:28] <someone_1> in a sec
[10:28] <blumm> hi
[10:28] <Kartagis> tomy: maybe your font is white too
[10:28] <Shujah> tomy: open terminal go to Edit> profiles
[10:29] <kamaly> tomy u can apt-get install xterm or whichever other terminal u wud prefer..pls...
[10:29] <tomy> when i open my terminal i can not do antyhing its white i dont see edit profiles etc
[10:29] <kamaly> tomy u can apt-get install xterm or whichever other terminal u wud prefer..pls...
[10:29] <blumm> somehow i cant change desktops anymore via button down right and neither via mouse-scroll, just by expo-function. any ideas how to fix this?
[10:29] <Buyydee> My window decorations do not appear properly after upgrading to Hardy, only the one of the active window works, even now after I completely removed emerald. What could be wrong here?
[10:30] <someone_1> when I type nolo<tab>
[10:30] <someone_1> it returns:
[10:30] <balle_> does ubuntu accept WPA2-PSK encrypted wireless networks? cause i can't get mine to log onto it, i can find it allright but not log on
[10:30] <Shujah> tomy: open terminal press Alt+e then enter
[10:30] <someone_1> noligin : Attempted login by UNKNOWN on /dev/console
[10:30] <kamaly> hello all..is there anyone in here who has done falcon repo manager pls need some pointers...??
[10:30] <someone_1> This account is currently not available
[10:30] <tomy> alt+e nothing happens
[10:30] <someone_1> that is what is says
[10:30] <Shujah> alt+e the press enter
[10:31] <knittl> anyone? *bump* i'm going nuts with this issue
[10:31] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: This account is currently not available is what it should return
[10:31] <tomy> nothing happens alt+e then enter
[10:31] <kamaly> tomy do a reinstall of the terminal
[10:31] <someone_1> I 'll try with my username
[10:31] <tomy> how from synapctic packet manager
[10:31] <someone_1> yep
[10:32] <someone_1> This account is currently not available
[10:32] <someone_1> only
[10:32] <someone_1> is that alright?
[10:32] <kamaly> tomy...synaptic..yes
[10:32] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: yes
[10:32] <tomy> kamaly what to look on synaptic is it just xterm
[10:32] <balle_> does ubuntu accept WPA2-PSK encrypted wireless networks? cause i can't get mine to log onto it, i can find it allright but not log on
[10:32] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: hold on, I think I found a thread in the forum with the solution
[10:33] <someone_1> i really hope so
[10:33] <hateball> Yeah it works balle_ , but depends on your card I guess
[10:33] <Ademan> anyone know how to "jail" certain programs?
[10:33] <hateball> But network-manager itself handles it
[10:33] <magnetron> balle_, yes, ubuntu supports wpa2-psk, but not all cards won't support it - especially not if they use ndis-wrapper
[10:34] <kamaly> is there anyone who ha ssuccessfully setup falcon repo manager...need some pointers pls..
[10:34] <Ademan> i guess something like bsd jails, i know there are at least a couple linux implementations of similar concepts because i looked them up a while back, but i can't seem to find them again
[10:34] <magnetron> !anyone | kamaly
[10:34] <kamaly> ok ubottu..
[10:34] <balle_> magnetron: well, it works great with XP... and i can't seem to find it in the network menu (the WPA2-PSK encryption)
[10:35] <tomy> kamaly i did re-install xterm from synapctic now i still get same white xterminal and can not do antyhing there
[10:35] <mitchell> cannot anywaone tel me what is the deamon to restart the /etc/sudoers file
[10:35] <mitchell> ?
[10:35] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3605925
[10:35] <magnetron> balle_, just tell us which card this is, and if you installed any drivers for it
[10:36] <kamaly> E: You appear to lack privileges to manage this repository
[10:36] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: did this start after an upgrade?
[10:36] <kamaly> [Errno 13] Permission denied: '.falcon'
[10:36] <someone_1> no
[10:36] <kamaly> any answers guys...??
[10:36] <ikonia> mitchell: it's parsed real time
[10:36] <tomy> kamaly i did re-install xterm from synapctic now i still get same white xterminal and can not do antyhing there
[10:36] <Ademan> mitchell: i don't think there's a daemon associated with it, you might try logging out and back in if things aren't working
[10:36] <mitchell> mmm i noticed that thks guys
[10:37] <someone_1> should I still try what you posted?
[10:37] <balle_> magnetron, hmm no drivers for it... and ehm, i think it's a belkin pro 54 something, do you know where i can check it?
[10:38] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: you could still try it, or like the gentoo user's post, try reinstalling certain packages
[10:38] <Shujah> tomy: have you opened it with some other user login?
[10:38] <kamaly> [Errno 13] Permission denied...how do u sort this out pls guys on linux...???
[10:39] <DistroJockey> kamaly, what command?
[10:39] <someone_1> which packages?
[10:39] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: I don't know specifically, a few were mentioned in the thread such as gdm
[10:40] <someone_1> how do I reinstall a package?
[10:40] <kamaly> starting a process...fails with the error E: You appear to lack privileges to manage this repository [Errno 13] Permission denied: '.falcon'
[10:40] <DistroJockey> kamaly, that is not a command
[10:40] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: try this: sudo aptitude reinstall libpam0g libpam-modules libpam-runtime
[10:40] <itai-michaelson> whats the syntax for changing ownership of a folder "sudo chown -R file_name user"?
[10:41] <kamaly> command is  falcon-start -r ~/.falcon/rootdir configure
[10:41] <Shujah> itai-michaelson, chown -R user:user
[10:41] <DistroJockey> kamaly, maybe you need to  sudo  that. I don't now as I have not read the readme though
[10:41] <someone_1> have done it already and did not help
[10:42] <itai-michaelson> Shujah, should i put the folders name somewhere?
[10:42] <someone_1> i think I will reinstall
[10:42] <Shoopuf> kamaly, What is it that you are typing that makes that error appear?
[10:42] <Shoopuf> sorry didnt see above
[10:42] <balle_> i think i need some drivers for my wireless card, where can i check what card i got and where can i get the drivers? thx
[10:43] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: ok, hardy doesn't take long, I was up and running again with minor inconveniences within an hour
[10:43] <someone_1> yeah
[10:43] <Shujah> itai-michaelson,  yes like this >> chown nobody:nobody /tmp   <just an example
[10:43] <someone_1> but it will take sometime to same my files on a removable hard drive
[10:43] <someone_1> and then when I reinstall it
[10:43] <someone_1> to get it back in the way I had it before
[10:43] <Shujah> itai-michaelson,  you might need to use sudo for permissions
[10:43] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: on this install make a seperate partition for /home
[10:43] <kamaly> i have chowned the process to be owned by me..and also chmod...but it still complains...
[10:43] <someone_1> big thanks for you help
[10:43] <ewook> Shujah: not recursive as well?
[10:44] <someone_1> why when I can put it on a removable drive?
[10:44] <ewook> Shujah: oh, nevermind :P
[10:44] <Shujah> for Recrusive chown -R user:user /directoryname
[10:44] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: then when you reinstall you don't lose your files/settings, so as you re-download apps from the repos they are already configured the way you had them before
[10:44] <someone_1> ???
[10:45] <itai-michaelson> .
[10:45] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: I upgraded earlier tonight and when I logged in, I was met with my usual wallpaper and same startup apps
[10:45] <balle_> i think i need some drivers for my wireless card, where can i check what card i got and where can i get the drivers? thx
[10:45] <mitchell> guy i cannot alter between sessions with the ctrl+alt+f2-7! whais the likely cause?
[10:46] <someone_1> so you only left your home directory?
[10:46] <someone_1> how did you do it and does it take much place?
[10:46] <itai-michaelson> Shujah, am i correct in assuming that changing ownership will change the permissions as well|?
[10:47] <kamaly> E: Falcon should not be run as root..anybody pls...na d someone said u ask the question...answers follow...seems experiences differ...?
[10:47] <Shujah> itai-michaelson, yes, unless you make a new group and add a user to it
[10:47] <itai-michaelson> Shujah, thank you very much
[10:47] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: well instead of making a 30 gb partition for ubuntu, make a 10 gb for / and a 20 gb for /home, then during the install you tell it to mount the 20gb partition at /home, (you will probably want to format it this time but from now on you just tell it where to mount but don't format that partition)
[10:47] <Shujah> np
[10:47] <powertoo1|lappy> someone_1: I'm pretty sure ubottu has a factoid about it but I forget the command
[10:48] <Ademan> anyone know how to implement jails for programs in linux?
[10:48] <powertoo1|lappy> !home
[10:48] <DistroJockey> kamaly, "Falcon is a tool that generates the repository meta-information" Is that the thing and did you get it via apt-get or Synaptic?
[10:48] <Viggo> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu server on a computer with an epia 5000 board
[10:48] <Shoopuf> powertoo1|lappy, is there a way to do that (put /home to a partition) if I've already gotten Ubuntu installed already? :/
[10:49] <someone_1> big thanks again
[10:49] <|404NotFound|> Hmm. does Caps lock and Scroll lock flashing mean Kernel Panic?
[10:49] <balle_> i think i need some drivers for my wireless card, where can i check what card i got and where can i get the drivers? thx
[10:49] <powertoo1|lappy> Shoopuf: I suppose if you have some extra space you could copy everything to a new partition, then tell fstab to mount it at /home, probably some form of deletion of old home files?
[10:49] <bullgard4> What programs use (or evaluate) in  /etc/resolve.conf the entry "nameserver 192.168.178.1"?
[10:49] <kamaly> distrojockey ..yes...i run apt-get install falcon...but getting the program to start is a prob..but it can happen with any service...
[10:50] <Shujah> Shoopuf, router, modem other networking apps
[10:50] <Shujah> oops that was for bullgard4
[10:50] <kamaly> if u run sudo...refuses to run as root..if u run as normal user...u lack priviliges....
[10:51] <bullgard4> Shujah: And how do they use this information?
[10:51] <DistroJockey> kamaly, did you change your   /etc/hosts   file by chance?
[10:52] <edu> Hi
[10:52] <edu> !ndiswrapper
[10:53] <CTXT> Can anyone help me with installing LXDE on my eee 701 I currently have eeexubuntu..... Ty
[10:53] <kamaly> ctxt apt-get install lxde
[10:53] <CTXT> doesn't find any packages
[10:53] <Shujah> it is used to resolve the ip address of a hostname
[10:54] <CTXT> kamaly: Doesn't find any packages
[10:54] <kamaly> ctxt apt-get install lxde..u have to edit sources list...check the site pls...
[10:54] <Viggo> My epia 5000 board won't boot the ubuntu server cd, although it boots nicely on my laptop. Also ubuntu live cd boots on the epia. What should I do?
[10:54] <matrix> hello i have problem with my xterm when i open it i just see whiteout screen, i did re-install from synaptic still same problem
[10:55] <Shujah> bullgard4, > check out this link brief and to the point >> http://theos.in/desktop-linux/resolve-conf-linux-example/
[10:55] <kamaly> matrix...try apt-get install roxterm
[10:55] <CTXT> kamaly: i have already added the link the site said from their wiki but it just give me an error message
[10:55] <kamaly> ctxt which error
[10:55] <CTXT> moment
[10:55] <balle_> does anyone know where i can get drivers for my wlan card?
[10:56] <sawyer__> hey everyone
[10:56] <CTXT> kamaly: failed to fetch than shows the link
[10:56] <kamaly> hey sawyer
[10:56] <edu> I'm using ndigtk to load a windows wireless driver. It says that the hardware is not present, but I've inserted it several times and I think that I'm using a suitable driver. Any ideas?
[10:56] <sawyer__> i'm trying to umount a device and it tells me it's still writing data (from the cache, i assume) - how do i see the status?
[10:56] <sawyer__> anywhere in /proc where i can see something about it?
[10:56] <powertoo1|lappy> matrix: maybe it has a crazy session profile set? if you can see the preferences from the menubar look around to change the theme, you can also try sudo aptitude purge xterm (clears config files), or try another term as kamaly suggested
[10:56] <rockenrola> hi. I have transmission 1.22 installed. When I press the power button I get a warning "Request to do policy action Transmission has stopped the policy action from taking place: Bittorrent activity" How can this be changed, whitout going back to transmission 1.06?
[10:57] <matrix> well i can not do anything on xterm its whiteout screen
[10:57] <kamaly> ctxt add the link..then apt-get update...if it exits clean..then apt-get install...??
[10:57] <Shoopuf> rockenrola, close transmission before hitting the power button?
[10:57] <CTXT> Kamaly: is http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu gusty intrepid right (I am using 7.10 Ubuntu sorry forgot to say so)
[10:58] <matrix> i installed now as kamaly said roxterm it works fine
[10:58] <Shujah> hiya sawyer_
[10:58] <Shujah> matirx: aka tomy you still stuck with white window
[10:58] <j0nr> Can anyone help me understand vnc please?
[10:58] <Shujah> matrix: I think you have changed somehow the default color setting for xterm
[10:58] <CTXT> kamaly: doesn't exit clean
[10:58] <rockenrola> Shoopuf: that is what I have been doing. but the previous version of transmission handle that well. I guess with a little tweak this can work too.
[10:59] <Shujah> and I cant think of a command which will run xterm with some other color option
[10:59] <matrix> well now i insstalled roxterm it works fine. is there any way to remove xterm and re-install it back
[10:59] <kamaly> ctxt add the link..then apt-get update...if it exits clean..then apt-get install...?? what is the result..is it clean exit..or it has an error adding the repo...??
[10:59] <j0nr> basic difference between whether you log in to a new session, or have to have the server already logged in and you just join that session
[10:59] <CTXT> error adding repo
[10:59] <Shoopuf> rockenrola, try /join #transmission maybe they can answer sooner :P
[10:59] <rockenrola> ok
[10:59] <kamaly> ctxt ...just a sec
[10:59] <CTXT> kamaly: wondering if the link is right thou
[11:00] <CTXT> kamaly:http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu gusty intrepid
[11:00] <matrix> well now i insstalled roxterm it works fine. is there any way to remove xterm and re-install it back i try it from snypactic to remove and re install still samething happens whiteout screen
[11:00] <Shujah> matrix: on gnome? then go to synaptic and reinstall gnome-terminal
[11:01] <ne2k__> is it possible to make unetbootin_partitionmanagerrev146_all.deb run in text-mode only? the graphical bit seems to crash my machine (completely -- magic sysrq doesn't work). I booted it without "quiet" and it seems to be happy right up until it start the gui. I don't need the gui!
[11:01] <deminished> can any one help me install ipwraw under ubuntu ?
[11:01] <fuln> Hii all
[11:01] <kamaly> ctxt ...put this deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu gutsy main
[11:02] <kamaly> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu gutsy main
[11:02] <fuln> how I can use lpsci
[11:02] <fuln> please help m
[11:02] <knittl> hi fellows! i have narrowed down my problem. after hibernation i can only get a network connection if i either have amarok playing a song or rhythmbox open (playing or paused). can this be pulseaudio related? after normal boot all works fine
[11:02] <Shujah> matrix, press alt+f2 and give command >> terminal --background black
[11:02] <CTXT> kamaly: testing that now
[11:03] <rockenrola> fuln: typo - lspci
[11:03] <j0nr> how do I enable remote desktop purely from command line?
[11:04] <matrix> i open my whiteout terminal i press alt+f2 it shows window to type command or to open a file
[11:04] <fuln> command not found << why
[11:04] <Shujah> [ress alt+f2 on desktop not terminal type command >        terminal --background black
[11:04] <rockenrola> fuln: the comand is lspci. not lpsci
[11:05] <DistroJockey> fuln, what command is not found?
[11:05] <kamaly> ctxt ...put this for interpid deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu intrepid main
[11:05] <kamaly> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu intrepid main
[11:05] <CTXT> kamaly: Ok moment
[11:05] <matrix> could not open file home/matrix/ terminal background black
[11:05] <fuln> ow..I got it
[11:06] <fuln> thanks
[11:06] <fuln> I typed wrong Command
[11:06] <Shujah> matrix: try command >        terminal --background #000000
[11:07] <CTXT> kamaly: do i also need deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu intrepid main?
[11:07] <kari> from where can i download ubuntu dvd version?if its torrent where can i find high speed torrent?
[11:07] <matrix> i have swedish language desktop does that matter
[11:07] <matrix> terminal --background #000000 still can't open file
[11:08] <CTXT> kamaly: so i need one deb and deb src of gusty main and one deb and deb src of intrepid main?
[11:08] <MidnightHacker> how do i change my color to 32bit?
[11:09] <DistroJockey> kari, http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.1/release/
[11:09] <Kaja> Ubuntu doesn't count the 8 bits for transparency.
[11:09] <ne2k__> I installed unetbootin_partitionmanagerrev146_all.deb from the lubi site, so that I can resize my NTFS partition and move my wubi install to a dedicated partition using lvpm. however, when I try to boot partitionmanager, the graphical bit crashes my machine. I'm happy to use cli for the resizing, but how do I get grub to tell it not to boot into X, but to use cli? will linux single or linux...
[11:09] <ne2k__> ...emergency work?
[11:10] <Sivam> hi all
[11:10] <MidnightHacker> hi
[11:10] <Sivam> How to configure windows key
[11:10] <Sivam> in Ubuntu to bring some custom menu
[11:10] <Slart> Sivam: it's in some kind of keyboard config thingy.. check the system, preferences menu.. or system, administration
[11:10] <ebrf0rd> system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[11:11] <MidnightHacker> how can i change my color modes?
[11:11] <Sivam> what value I have to give for shortcut
[11:11] <Slart> Sivam: it's in the layout tab, layout options
[11:11] <powertoo1|lappy> ne2k__: check gdm.conf and files in /etc/X11/ to disable graphical logins
[11:11] <MidnightHacker> im trying to run a game but it requires 32bit color any idea's
[11:11] <kamaly> r u still there ctxt...solved or u r still stuck...?
[11:11] <Irr> hello there, i got a quick question about synaptic. i'm trying to clean up some of the stuff ubuntu was bundeled with by default. example: i'm trying to get rid of gnome-pilot, which is part of ubuntu-desktop. is ubuntu-desktop only a dummy package? i mean, does the removal of ubuntu-desktop result in a fucked up desktop?
[11:11] <Slart> MidnightHacker: what game?
[11:12] <CTXT> kamaly: stuck sadly can u just give me the links that i need to put in all of them?
[11:12] <MidnightHacker> CSCZ
[11:12] <Slart> Irr: yes, no
[11:12] <rssy> Irr: I think it will remove your ubuntu-desktop..
[11:12] <rssy> been there once, and i must reinstall my ubuntu .
[11:12] <MidnightHacker> it opens says its loading then closes and everything its like high
[11:12] <MidnightHacker> hugh*
[11:12] <tytytyty> Irr: ubuntu-desktop is jsut a metapackage
[11:12] <Slart> !info ubuntu-desktop
[11:13] <ne2k__> powertoo1|lappy: errm... it's an executable RO-rootFS...
[11:13] <tytytyty> Irr: it pulls in all the packages found in the default unbuntu install
[11:13] <Slart> installed size, 52 kB..  =)
[11:13] <Irr> thanks all^^ thats what i thought, but would just ask to be sure
[11:13] <ne2k__> powertoo1|lappy: am I really going to have to loop-mount it and edit it?
[11:13] <ne2k__> powertoo1|lappy: if that's even possible?
[11:14] <Sivam> Slart: i am into layout tab
[11:14] <Irr> tytytyty: yea, but it dont removes them when uninstalling the package? its just a a script of somthing to tell what to install?
[11:14] <Sivam> Slart: there is no option for setting win key's operation
[11:14] <on5sl> does anyone has also problems with creating directory's on a mounted samba share? I would like to solve it but there is also a bug for it and i really don't know what to do: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glib/+bug/242618
[11:14] <tytytyty> Irr: nope it wont remove anything
[11:14] <Irr> tytytyty: nice. thanks
[11:14] <powertoo1|lappy> ne2k__: Wait? I'm confused...
[11:15] <Slart> Sivam: you decide if it's going to be meta or super key.. isn't that what you wanted?
[11:15] <MidnightHacker> anyone got any ideas with my color prob?
[11:15]  * Slart just uninstalled his ubuntu-desktop.. still here
[11:16] <ne2k__> powertoo1|lappy: I installed a package called partitionmanager which creates a new entry in grub with a ram-only system that has gparted, etc. it created files /boot/ubnkern and /boot/ubninit, and an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:16] <rockenrola> MidnightHacker: what is your problem?
[11:16] <MidnightHacker> how do i change my color
[11:17] <MidnightHacker> i need to set my color to 32bit
[11:17] <Sivam> Slart: what is the difference between meta key and super key
[11:17] <ne2k__> powertoo1|lappy: and the graphical component (I presume it's X) in that live ram system causes my machine to hang completely -- ctrl-alt-del doesn't work, magic sysrq doesn't work
[11:17] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: what is it at now?
[11:17] <Sivam> Slart: I remember using ESC as meta key in emacs
[11:17] <MidnightHacker> no idea
[11:17] <MidnightHacker> but its crappy
[11:17] <MidnightHacker> i dont even know where to go to find out what its at
[11:17] <ne2k__> powertoo1|lappy: so I want to persuade it to boot into console only mode so that I can try starting X manually with some different options, and, failing that, do the resizing of the partition with console commands
[11:18] <Slart> Sivam: just two different option keys.. just like shift, alt and ctrl in windows.. in linux you have shift, alt, ctrl, super and meta... super and meta are usually set to windows-flag-thingy and that other weird extra windows key
[11:18] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: grep Depth /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:18] <MidnightHacker> but i tryed running a app. i downloaded and it says ur video must be set to 32bit color
[11:18] <emorris> ^^ what does that give?
[11:18] <powertoo1|lappy> ne2k__: ok, I'm not familiar with that setup, but I think whether X starts manually or automatically is determined by a config file in X or your display manager, not a setting in grub
[11:18] <dennis_> hello guys, I have a problem installing virtualbox on my hardy laptop, ERROR: Dependancy is not satisfiable: libssl0.9.8
[11:19] <MidnightHacker> should i run that in a termanial?
[11:19] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: yep
[11:19] <MidnightHacker> kk let me try
[11:19] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: it should give DefaultDepth
[11:19] <ne2k__> powertoo1|lappy: yeesh, thanks
[11:19] <powertoo1|lappy> ne2k__: np, good luck
[11:19] <rssy> ne2k__: when i'm using red hat, i just change the runlevel ... but don't know on Ubuntu..
[11:19] <MidnightHacker> it dident do anything
[11:20] <ne2k__> rssy: it's not ubuntu. it's partitonmanager
[11:20] <dennis_> hello guys, I have a problem installing virtualbox on my hardy laptop, ERROR: Dependency is not satisfiable: libssl0.9.8
[11:20] <Slart> MidnightHacker, emorris: grep Defaultdepth bla bla bla might work better.. at least on my system
[11:20] <ne2k__> dennis_: sudo apt-get update
[11:20] <powertoo1|lappy> anyone know the kde equivalent to metacity --replace? is it kwin --replace?
[11:20] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: oh yeah, try depth (lower case d) then
[11:21] <rssy> ooo.. sorry ... kinda lost here.. O:-)
[11:21] <dennis_> ne2k_ok
[11:21] <MidnightHacker> ﻿emorris: still nothing
[11:21] <dennis_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:22] <MidnightHacker> midnighthacker@midnighthacker-desktop:~$ grep Depth /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:22] <MidnightHacker> midnighthacker@midnighthacker-desktop:~$ grep depth /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:22] <MidnightHacker> midnighthacker@midnighthacker-desktop:~$
[11:22] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: ﻿ok, paste the whole file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) to the paste bin
[11:22] <MidnightHacker> thats all it shows
[11:22] <Paolo88> hello
[11:22] <dennis_> i did try last night sudo apt-get install virtualbox and it stopped halfway cant remember the errors
[11:22] <MidnightHacker> what is the past bin?
[11:23] <MidnightHacker> paste*
[11:23] <dennis_> ne2_ i did try last night sudo apt-get install virtualbox and it stopped halfway cant remember the errors
[11:23] <DistroJockey> !pastebin | MidnightHacker
[11:23] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:23] <MidnightHacker> ok sorry
[11:24] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: nothing to apologise for!
[11:25] <Paolo88> where I can find the news on Intrepid?
[11:26] <Paolo88> nothing?
[11:26] <knittl> are there any problems if i install esound instead of pulseaudio?
[11:26] <knittl> i think pulseaudio is the cause for my network crashes
[11:26] <MidnightHacker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26431/
[11:27] <knittl> Paolo88: ubuntu.com ;)
[11:27] <emorris> ﻿Paolo88: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha1
[11:27] <DistroJockey> Paolo88, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid
[11:27] <Paolo88> tanks at all
[11:27] <polter> so. I got a broken package. I didn't accept the license-thingy that came up when installing msttcorefonts, and now I can't remove, reinstall, or do anything to that package
[11:28] <knittl> ok, i'll just do it :D
[11:29] <MidnightHacker> emorris: i posted the file to pastebin
[11:30] <Paolo88> the new ubuntu is fantastic!
[11:30] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: yeah, try reconfiguring X by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:30] <MidnightHacker> i know i love it i'll never go back to windows
[11:31] <emorris> (in a terminal)
[11:31] <Caponetta> Hi
[11:32] <DistroJockey> emorris, MidnightHacker : there is nothing there to reconfigure really
[11:32] <Caponetta> Where can i find information or someone to speak to about joining the moblin developer team?
[11:32] <Caponetta> I've got MANY ideas to share
[11:32] <Paolo88> are there a sw like rinocheros?
[11:33] <Caponetta> Where can i find information or someone to speak to about joining the moblin developer team?
[11:33] <MidnightHacker> so use kernal framebuffer  device interface?
[11:34] <Paolo88> are there a cad sw like rinocheros for ubuntu?
[11:34] <DistroJockey> MidnightHacker, if the game wants 32bit colour then I'm guessing it's a Windows game?
[11:35] <Caponetta> Ubuntu supports up to 64..
[11:35] <MidnightHacker> yeah and i have wine installed
[11:35] <DistroJockey> MidnightHacker, better to ask in #wine
[11:36] <MidnightHacker> so there's noway to change the color bit rate?
[11:36] <Paolo88> are there a cad sw like rinocheros for ubuntu?
[11:37] <DistroJockey> MidnightHacker, #winehq  rather
[11:37] <babolat> will user1 be able to remotely login via vino if user2 started a session while leaving user1's session open (aka user switching)
[11:37] <babolat> ?
[11:38] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: well Ubuntu comes with 24 bit, but I'm told there's no difference to 32 bit. What are you trying to run btw? As ﻿DistroJockey said, it's probably better to ask in #winehq.
[11:38] <Paolo88> ok.....I go..
[11:38] <Paolo88> Hello!
[11:38] <MidnightHacker> them ppl in the wine room usuly aint to helpful
[11:39] <MidnightHacker> thats why i come here lol
[11:39] <emorris> ﻿MidnightHacker: fe. what game is it?
[11:39] <partyvan> hey guys, i feel nervous, i dont have opera in my install/delete menu
[11:39] <MidnightHacker> counter-strike condision zero
[11:40] <MidnightHacker> it opens says loading then closes and everything on my desktop is hugh and i gotta change my resolution back
[11:40] <bullgard4> What is the filename of the DNS 'name server' in Ubuntu Hardy?
[11:41] <oobe> you mean the file you put nameservers in?
[11:41] <oobe> /etc/resolv.conf if thats what you mean
[11:41] <Gin>  /etc/resolv.conf
[11:41] <bullgard4> oobe: I mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_server
[11:42] <oobe> bullgard4, i know what a nameserver is
[11:42] <oobe> like most ppl
[11:42] <bullgard4> oobe: Excellent! And now please do answer the question which I have put.
[11:42] <rockenrola> bullgard4: bind ?
[11:42] <Gin> bullgard4, your question does not make sense. what are you trying to do?
[11:42] <babolat> !bind
[11:43] <oobe> your question doesnt make sense what are trying to do set up a server
[11:43] <Gin> oobe, you stole my line again
[11:43] <oobe> lol
[11:43] <Gin> lol
[11:43] <oobe> jinx
[11:43] <bullgard4> Gin: To determine the name of the DNS name server program.
[11:43] <Gin> bullgard4, first of all, by default there is no dns server installed
[11:44] <Gin> bullgard4, if you want to run on on your own pc, google for Bind
[11:45] <ikonia> bullgard4: libresolve uses /etc/resolve.conf, thats pretty much it
[11:46] <ikonia> bullgard4: libresolve is your "dns resolver" program
[11:46] <ikonia> bullgard4: it's a library, not a program though
[11:46] <bullgard4> Gin: Well, but 'man resolv.conf writes: "If /etc/resolv.conf  doesn’t exist the only name server to be queried will be on the local machine,"
[11:46] <Xavura> Is there any software you can use to connect to a Ubuntu/Linux machine (remote desktop type thing) from a Windows XP machine?
[11:46] <Gin> vnc
[11:47] <Xavura> Kind of like Log Me In (logmein.com)
[11:47] <ikonia> bullgard4: thats right, if /etc/resolv.conf your machine will attempt to use a resolution source on your machine, which by default does not exist
[11:47] <Xavura> err isn't VNC for Linux < -- > Linux
[11:47] <ikonia> Xavura: platform independant
[11:47] <emorris> ﻿Xavura: nope, try RealVNC
[11:47] <riegersn> Im thinking of upgrading my box to 4gig ram, its a lot but i run tons of apps at once all the time. do the latest  kernels know how to handle 4 efficiently?
[11:47] <Xavura> Nice one
[11:47] <ikonia> riegersn: the 64bit kernels can handle over 64gig of ram
[11:47] <emorris> !vnc | ﻿Xavura
[11:48] <tparcina> I can ping one IP address. How can I gather more informations about that computer (computer name, Installed OS and similar informations)?
[11:48] <riegersn> ikonia, what about the 32but?
[11:48] <ikonia> tparcina: login to it
[11:48] <riegersn> bit* lol
[11:48] <Xavura> Does VNC work with Ubuntu 8.04
[11:48] <DistroJockey> riegersn, or a kernel that has PAE
[11:48] <kamaly> kindly lemme have a look at the two lines of gutsy lxde from the sources list...
[11:48] <tparcina> ikonia: I don't have user account on that computer
[11:48] <ikonia> riegersn: default is 3 gig of ram, but with PAE extensions it can use 4gb, just in a different way to 64bit
[11:48] <ikonia> tparcina: contact the computer owner
[11:48] <bullgard4> ikonia: "~$ man libresolve; No manual entry for libresolve"
[11:48] <Xavura> and, finally, is the VNC software in the repositories
[11:48] <riegersn> !pae
[11:49] <ikonia> bullgard4: there may not be a man page for it, it's a library
[11:49] <tparcina> ikonia: how can I find out who is computer owner? I have only IP address.
[11:49] <ikonia> tparcina: then you shouldn't be trying to access that machine
[11:49] <wereHamster> I have Virtual 1920 1200 and Mode "1280x800" in my xorg.conf, and I would expect that gdm use the 1280x800 mode. Well, the screen physical resolution is indeed 1280x800, but gdm uses the full virtual resolution, meaning that the bottom and right parts of the login screen are off-screen, not visible. Is there a way to have gdm use the configured resolution?
[11:50] <tparcina> ikonia: I'm not trying to access that machine, I'm trying to gather informations about all computers in my LAN. I would like to see what's computer names they have and what OS is currently running on them
[11:50] <ikonia> bullgard4: http://ou800doc.caldera.com/en/SDK_porting/resolver_api_top.html
[11:50] <ronin12345> When you use Utorrent under wine does everything work with no problem?
[11:50] <DJ_HaMsTa> proftpd started without a problem, when i try connecting to it i get a Data Socket Error: Connection refused and list error
[11:50] <bullgard4> ikonia: packages.ubuntu.com cannot find 'libresolve' for Hardy.
[11:50] <ikonia> tparcina: you can try using your resolver to lookup the ipaddress
[11:50] <ikonia> bullgard4: it's not a package
[11:51] <emorris> ﻿ronin12345: Ubuntu already comes with a bittorrent client
[11:51] <bullgard4> ikonia: It is no Hardy filename either.
[11:51] <ikonia> tparcina: what environment is this lan in ? a business, a school
[11:51] <ikonia> bullgard4: it's a library
[11:51] <tparcina> how to gather computer name, running OS and other informations about computer for which I know only IP address?
[11:51] <ikonia> bullgard4: check the link I've sent you
[11:51] <emorris> !bittorrent | ﻿﻿ronin12345
[11:51] <ikonia> bullgard4: it's part of libc
[11:51] <DJ_HaMsTa> proftpd started without a problem, when i try connecting to it i get a Data Socket Error: Connection refused and list error when trying to access it from an outside network but works internaly
[11:52] <riegersn> ikonia, flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae .... is that all i need?
[11:52] <tparcina> ikonia: resolver will give me just DNS name, I'm looking for computer name and running OS
[11:52] <ronin12345> Transmission: no queueing no RSS Deluge: setting up rss makes the thing crash
[11:52] <ikonia> riegersn: they are just cpu flags ?
[11:52] <ikonia> tparcina: what environment is this network in ?
[11:52] <riegersn> ikonia, oh yea, guess thats not the kernal
[11:53] <tparcina> ikonia: is this question (what LAN is it in) in any relationship to the procedure how I can find out informations that I need?
[11:53] <ikonia> tparcina: yes it is
[11:53] <riegersn> ikonia, is there a kernal i can install thats i don't have to compile myself?
[11:53] <collins> when is the next version of ubuntu coming out_
[11:53] <ikonia> riegersn: I think, but would have to check that the 32bit kernel has pae enabled, but I'd need to check
[11:53] <tparcina> ikonia: it's in NGO organisation
[11:53] <DJ_HaMsTa> collins it just came out
[11:54] <collins> DJ_HaMsTa: thanks !
[11:54] <leonbrussels> collins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule
[11:54] <tparcina> ikonia: how does the LAN in the NGO differ from the LAN in some buseniss or school?
[11:54] <ikonia> tparcina: because there should be someone running the lan
[11:54] <ronin12345> So are there any known problems using utorrent under wine. The only one that actually has all the working features of utorrent is azureus
[11:55] <ikonia> tparcina: by finding out what type of lan it is, I could suggest a method to contact the administrator of the network
[11:55] <tparcina> ikonia: I'm not interested in legal aspect how to do something, I'm interseted in tenical aspect how to do it
[11:55] <ikonia> tparcina: ok, you can't
[11:55] <ikonia> tparcina: you have no access to the machines, so you can't query them
[11:56] <ikonia> tparcina: you don't run the network so you can't gain access to utilities that would assist, so the answer is "you can't"
[11:56] <on5sl> from the 1206 people here nobody knows something wich could solve my problem?
[11:56] <tparcina> ikonia: thank you weary much for your response
[11:56] <Morrowyn> what do you want to know on5sl?
[11:56] <zaggynl> yeah
[11:57] <DJ_HaMsTa> proftpd started without a problem, when i try connecting to it i get a Data Socket Error: Connection refused and list error when trying to access it from an outside network but works internaly
[11:57] <on5sl> Morrowyn: does anyone has also problems with creating directory's on a mounted samba share? I would like to solve it but there is also a bug for it and i really don't know what to do: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glib/+bug/242618
[11:57] <ikonia> on5sl: the work around is to change the umask on that directoy
[11:57] <Morrowyn> on5sl, check your permissions
[11:58] <on5sl> my permissiosn for my samba share are correct 100% shure
[11:58] <ikonia> on5sl: parent directories are created with the wrong permission, so then the child directories will be unavilable to you
[11:58] <on5sl> but when i change the umask...isn't that for my whole ubutn system?
[11:58] <ikonia> on5sl: no
[11:58] <Morrowyn> no
[11:58] <on5sl> how can i change the umask for only the mnt/nas/ dir?
[11:59] <sohocoke> how do i get the configuration script for an apt package to run again?
[11:59] <Morrowyn> create mask = 0775
[11:59] <Morrowyn>         directory mask = 0775
[11:59] <Morrowyn> directory mask = <your umask>
[11:59] <on5sl> cause that would partially solve my problem...then i can create dir's trough the terminal...i think that nautilus still won't do it right.
[11:59] <Morrowyn> create mask = umask on your files
[11:59] <ikonia> on5sl: thats what the bug says
[12:00] <Morrowyn> and also have it : writable = yes
[12:00] <on5sl> well i think that i a pretty serious bug, and the prioritiy is way to low..
[12:00] <ggeecko> is there a way to have gnome terminal go to the sys tray and keep running
[12:00] <on5sl> Morrowyn: thx, i'll try that
[12:00] <Viggo> hi all
[12:00] <rockenrola> sohocoke: one solution might be remove, purge and installing it again
[12:01] <DistroJockey> sohocoke, The following may do it:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[12:01] <sohocoke> cheers, will try those 2
[12:01] <Morrowyn> on5sl gl with it
[12:01] <SealedWithAKiss> I'm trying to rip an Audio CD to MP3 format for my MP3 player, however when I insert the CD an application called 'Sound Juicer' opens, and when I use this to rip it does so to a format called '.ogg'. Can anybody help?
[12:02] <on5sl> gl ?
[12:02] <Viggo> My epia 5000 board won't boot the ubuntu server cd, although it boots nicely on my laptop. Also ubuntu live desktop cd boots on the epia. What should I do?
[12:02] <DistroJockey> on5sl, gl = good luck :)
[12:03] <rockyrock> hi guys, i bought a USB Dialup modem and i plugged it in, but i can't know if ubuntu installed it correctly or even if it recognizes it. Can anybody help me with this  plzzz
[12:03] <Morrowyn> Viggo, does it boot from other cd's your epia board? could be a bios setting that you boot from other media, like yourhdd first
[12:03] <SealedWithAKiss> Anybody?
[12:03] <rockyrock> i have only dialup available
[12:03] <on5sl> Morrowyn: euhm you say create mask and all that stuff...but were can i do this? wich command to use,
[12:04] <Viggo> Morrowyn, it boots the Ubuntu Live Desktop cd
[12:04] <Viggo> and damn small linux
[12:04] <Viggo> but not ubuntu server or debian
[12:04] <SealedWithAKiss>  I'm trying to rip an Audio CD to MP3 format for my MP3 player, however when I insert the CD an application called 'Sound Juicer' opens, and when I use this to rip it does so to a format called '.ogg'. Can anybody help?
[12:04] <Morrowyn> on5l  sudo vim /etc/samba/smb.conf  or use nano or gksudo gedit whatever editor you likebest
[12:04] <Morrowyn> but i suggest to read up on creating a samba share and manioulating smb.conf
[12:04] <Morrowyn> first
[12:05] <rockenrola> SealedWithAKiss: do you have lame installed ?
[12:05] <Viggo> Morrowyn: i have no hdd attached yet, but an usb-stick
[12:05] <SealedWithAKiss> rockenrola, no.
[12:05] <SealedWithAKiss> sudo apt-get install lame ? ricke
[12:05] <SealedWithAKiss> rockenrola, *
[12:05] <Morrowyn> Viggo, can you epia boot from usb? if not, that might the rpblem i guess
[12:06] <Viggo> Morrowyn, I have also tried three different cd-rom-drives
[12:06] <Viggo> Morrowyn, in the bios I can set it to boot from USB
[12:07] <Viggo> Morrowyn, but I have no bootable partitions on the USB drive
[12:07] <Morrowyn> on5l : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba  look for the Samba Server Manual Configuration  section
[12:07] <rockenrola> SealedWithAKiss: sudo aptitude install liblame0
[12:07] <on5sl> Morrowyn: but my samba share has the correct create mask setting and so on...it's not a problem on the server side
[12:08] <on5sl> my samba server is correct..it when i write dir's or files to that server from ubuntu when the problem occurs.
[12:08] <aslam_> sorry for coming out a little harsh but i thought ubuntu support was the best out there but out of my 2 posts I get replied to none in 3 days...
[12:08] <aslam_> if i am doing something wrong please let me know
[12:08] <Morrowyn> on5sl, try logging in into your share from a terminal using smbclient and see if you have the same problem
[12:08] <on5sl> so i would need to change the permissions for the umask only for the dir /mnt/nas/
[12:08] <bullgard4> ikonia: It is probably /lib/libresolv-2.7.so
[12:08] <Viggo> Morrowyn, also, the Ubuntu Server CD does not boot with the USB stick disconnected
[12:08] <IdleOne> aslam_, what problems are you having?
[12:08] <Morrowyn> Viggo, you prolly need to make the usb bootable
[12:09] <bullgard4> ikonia: A compoment of libc6
[12:09] <Viggo> Morrowyn, okay, I'll try that. Thanks
[12:09] <on5sl> when i'm using a terminal i have can create dir with the correct permissions altough i have to chmod them then. But when u say umask 0000 first, i can create dir's on my samba server correctly
[12:09] <Morrowyn> should be a flag you need to turn on somewhere
[12:09] <IdleOne> heya ikonia morning
[12:09] <aslam_> i had problem with my dvd and mic while alsa drivers are installed and configured...
[12:09] <aslam_> but i was also wondering about ubuntu forum support
[12:10] <Morrowyn> on5sl, what are the perms of you /mnt/nas (user/group/world) and as what user are you logging into the samba share?
[12:10] <aslam_> but the probability of getting answered is very low
[12:10] <IdleOne> aslam_, I don't personally use the forums but I hear alot of good things about them and that the support there is good
[12:10] <aslam_> i'v heard its the best idleone
[12:10] <Shoopuf> Is it OK if all my music library is accessed by Banshee from an NTFS drive?
[12:10] <tparcina> autoscan, in which repository can I find it?
[12:10] <aslam_> but doesn't seem to be true... i got better support on suse
[12:11] <Morrowyn> Shoopuf if you trust banshee, why not
[12:11] <IdleOne> aslam_, is there anything I can try and help you with today?
[12:11] <on5sl> Morrowyn: i'm logging in as a normal user for my samba share. and running as normal user on my ubuntu client too
[12:11] <Morrowyn> both are the same user?
[12:12] <aslam_> idleone is there something i'm doing wrong on the forum or is there something i can do when posting to increase the probability of getting answered...
[12:12] <on5sl> euhm..yes
[12:12] <on5sl> i've given the correct user in my fstab
[12:12] <Morrowyn> and the /mnt/nas has what perms?
[12:12] <Shoopuf> Morrowyn: That had an ominous tone to it when I read it... Is there reason to not trust Banshee? >_>
[12:12] <DistroJockey> aslam_, It is better if you describe the problem, including error messages and as much detail as posible
[12:12] <on5sl> so my samba share is mounted every time with the correct user
[12:12] <Morrowyn> ok
[12:13] <IdleOne> aslam_, make sure you give as much information about the issue as possible and be specific and keep checking back. remember we are volunteers and try our best
[12:13] <Morrowyn> when you need to chmod your just created directory, what was the owner then ?
[12:14] <aslam_> i understand that and I appreciate it very much but its just that I wanted to see ubuntu forums supporting better than suse i guess... but i'll make sure i put in more info next time
[12:14] <Morrowyn> and can you paste your smb.conf somewhere
[12:14] <on5sl> i'm always using the same user here. When i create i dir with the mkdir command on ym samba server, that works, but my dir hasn't the correct permissions then.
[12:14] <aslam_> can i get some help with my microphone for the moment
[12:14] <newbee617> my mplayer stops when it begins to play movies, any ideas?
[12:14] <t0ms> hello
[12:14] <t0ms> I've just finished upgrade from 704 to 710
[12:14] <Shoopuf> Is there a way to change the volume via COMMAND LINE?
[12:14] <t0ms> and I can't use ssh anymore
[12:14] <t0ms> ssh localhost
[12:14] <t0ms> ssh: relocation error: ssh: symbol EVP_Cipher, version OPENSSL_0.9.8 not defined in file libcrypto.so.0.9.8 with link time reference
[12:15] <on5sl> When i type umask 0000 first and then do a mkdir my dir on my samba server just created has the correct permissions
[12:15] <rockenrola> Shoopuf:  alsamixer ??
[12:15] <DistroJockey> aslam_, you have yet to ask a question or post a link to your forum post. So, I'm not sure how I can help.
[12:15] <on5sl> but i don't want to change umask because that is for all my new dir's and so on on my ubuntu system
[12:15] <IdleOne> aslam_, well you can also help make Ubuntu support "better" by helping out in here and on the forums :) . sorry you have not had the best experience to date but I do hope you don't give up on Ubuntu and it's community
[12:15] <on5sl> so i would need to have a sort of exception on the dir /mnt/nas/ for the umask, so that there the umask is 0000
[12:16] <Morrowyn> umask 0000 means, you are chmodding it with a 777, which you shouldnt be doing
[12:16] <on5sl> indeed i knwo that..but that's just temporary...i'll make that 775 or 771 or so....
[12:16] <aslam_> the alsa driver is install/updated and i increased the slider for the volume but the microphone just wont record
[12:16] <Morrowyn> 022 is a more standard approach
[12:16] <on5sl> but I want tos olve the problem itself first
[12:16] <leonbrussels> t0ms: Did you try reinstalling ssh?
[12:17] <t0ms> yes
[12:17] <Morrowyn> can you paste your smb.conf
[12:17] <t0ms> also libssl0.9.8
[12:17] <t0ms> and also libcrypto
[12:17] <on5sl> now it is 022 but that's not good for making dir's on my samba share
[12:17] <leonbrussels> t0ms: Sorry, no idea then :(
[12:17] <t0ms> I'm connected via telnet now :-\
[12:17] <on5sl> but wich smb.conf? from the server of client?
[12:17] <aslam_> and don't worry ubuntu is my first choice... not givin up on it
[12:17] <Morrowyn> then one from your samba server
[12:18] <aslam_> any idea on the microphone issue
[12:18] <on5sl> but when u use windows for accessing my samba share verything (with the same user of course) wokrs perfect
[12:18] <on5sl> so my smb.conf must be correct
[12:18] <t0ms> leonbrussels: I've already tried to purge ssh
[12:18] <t0ms> and install it back
[12:18] <DistroJockey> aslam_, if you run the following from terminal, is Mic muted (mm):  alsamixer
[12:18] <chazco> Hi... does anyone know if/when the Hardy clocksource issue will be fixed? There has been a bug report for ages but nothing seems to have been done :(
[12:19] <Morrowyn> well, if they have the proper ownerships, then yes, but if you are logging in as user: nobody
[12:19] <Morrowyn> then you might have problems
[12:19] <aslam_> distrojockey no micboost is up halfway
[12:20] <on5sl> i'm using no a user nobody..that is all correct
[12:21] <DistroJockey> aslam_, what about the mm or 00 at the bottom of the mic channels?
[12:21] <Morrowyn> ok
[12:22] <kamaly> distrojockey at all...the error i had..i have it all sorted out...on my own...
[12:22] <Morrowyn> well, you could setup a nfs share for your nix boxes on the same mount
[12:22] <DistroJockey> kamaly, good to hear :)
[12:23] <on5sl> no i don't want nfs...
[12:23] <aslam_> distrojockey i don't see any mic channels on it
[12:23] <on5sl> i want to solve the problem
[12:23] <on5sl> i don't want an alternative...
[12:23] <aslam_> i only see master headphones pcm front and micboost
[12:23] <on5sl> is there no option to set the umask onyl for on directory?
[12:24] <DistroJockey> aslam_, I have a Mic channel just left of Mic Boost
[12:24] <Morrowyn> umask subtractive permissions and chmod is additive permission
[12:24] <Morrowyn> umask 022 == chmod 755
[12:24] <IdleOne> DistroJockey, I happen to have a usb mic right here that my son uses for one of his ps2 games. I raised mic boost to 100% and tried recording about 10 seconds of sound. it did record but it is played back very low even with speakers turned all the way up. perhaps that is the issue with aslam_ , he might just not be able to here the play back
[12:24] <Morrowyn> if you want to umask a single directory, juts chmod it then
[12:24] <bsusa> hello
[12:25] <Morrowyn> make sure in your smb.conf that you handle the same mask there
[12:25] <DistroJockey> IdleOne, ahh, maybe, I don't have a mic
[12:25] <aslam_> i hear distorted noise when i put micboost up and try to record
[12:25] <bsusa> is there an email client on ubuntu that allows to add hotmail addresses?
[12:25] <Morrowyn> but anyways, im off for groceries
[12:25] <aslam_> idleone ill try that
[12:25] <DistroJockey> IdleOne, but alsamixer is a nice place to look for levels and muteness :)
[12:25] <Morrowyn> bsusa, firefox ;)
[12:25] <kamaly> distrojockey go to the script u r calling...check the errors its spewing..then change the directive..i had this...if os.getuid() == 0:
[12:25] <kamaly>    error(_("Falcon should not be run as root"))
[12:26] <emorris> ﻿bsusa: I believe there is an addon for thunderbird which allows downloading from hotmail
[12:26] <on5sl> that doesn't solve my problem
[12:26] <on5sl> then i have to chmod it everytime again...
[12:26] <on5sl> pff
[12:26] <kamaly> i changed it the "0" to 1..it worked like a charm....
[12:26] <DistroJockey> kamaly, I'm not having an issue with it as I am not installing it
[12:26] <IdleOne> DistroJockey, yes the Capture levels should be raised also. takes some adjusting from what I can tell untill you get it right where you like it. I am just now messing around with it
[12:27] <kamaly> knowledge is power...next time pal...
[12:27] <on5sl> really sad that ubuntu hasn't a solution for this yet. Samba shares are so commonly used...
[12:27] <aslam_> i put the volume lower and i don't hear anything
[12:27] <Morrowyn> laters
[12:27] <aslam_> the only time i hear distorted noise is when i put micboost all the way up
[12:27] <IdleOne> aslam_, raise the Capture Levels , alsamixer defaults to 3 but that is way to low. you are going to have to play with them until you find a position you like
[12:28] <IdleOne> DistroJockey, ^^
[12:28] <DistroJockey> kamaly, thanks for that. I'm really not familiar with falcon at all though. Glad you got it sorted
[12:28] <aslam_> idleone i can see the capture slider on the gui but not when i type in alsamixer in the command line
[12:29] <kamaly> distrojockey..for any process checking the uid...that's the hack...
[12:29] <jesse_> I need a immediate help
[12:29] <IdleOne> DistroJockey, I can now have my little girl sing into the mike while her Alvin and the chipmunks cd is playing and send the recording to my parents :)
[12:29] <jesse_> I cant instal alien,
[12:29] <unop> on5sl, have you gone through the samba reference?
[12:29] <bsusa> emorris: do you know which addon that is
[12:29] <jesse_> when I try, I get error message
[12:29] <DistroJockey> IdleOne, hehe ;)
[12:29] <IdleOne> aslam_, well use the GUI. aslam_ if you hit the TAB key one time it will show you more options
[12:29] <rockyrock> I have Skystar2 DVB card. How can i watch the TV on Ubuntu?
[12:29] <DistroJockey> kamaly, cheers :)
[12:30] <emorris> ﻿﻿bsusa: http://webmail.mozdev.org/installation.html Read the note at the bottom of the page first
[12:30] <on5sl> unop: no i haven't..what is that?
[12:30] <IdleOne> mike??? mic!
[12:30] <aslam_> idleone i tried it again but no luck no sound
[12:30] <Shoopuf> Which package do I need for the command line alsamixer?
[12:30] <aliosha> where do I look on irc for c++ help (I'm a newb)
[12:30] <unop> on5sl, http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/AccessControls.html#id397155
[12:30] <DistroJockey> Shoopuf, it's always been there by default for me
[12:31] <Gin> aliosha, #C++
[12:31] <emorris> ﻿﻿﻿bsusa: you will also need to look at the documentation on that site
[12:31] <aliosha> Gin, thanks :D
[12:31] <on5sl> unop: thx i'll read that section
[12:31] <rockyrock> aliosha, c\c++ channel
[12:31] <rockyrock> aliosha, where are u from?
[12:31] <Shoopuf> DistroJockey: I'm just trying to change my volume via command line because I can't with the GUI...
[12:31] <DistroJockey> Shoopuf, and what does  alsamixer  give you?
[12:31] <on5sl> unop: but the problem here isn't the samba server...it's ubuntu
[12:32] <Shoopuf> DistroJockey: I type "alsamixer" in command line and it says "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory"
[12:32] <DistroJockey> eek
[12:32] <unop> on5sl, ubuntu is creating files on a samba share right?
[12:32] <unop> on5sl, or directories rather?
[12:33] <on5sl> indeed
[12:33] <on5sl> but the dir's wich ubuntu creates are by default with the incorrect permissions
[12:33] <on5sl> and this has to do with the umask
[12:33] <vlavl1> hi
[12:34] <unop> on5sl, right, so you need to set the appropriate umask for that share in the samba config file
[12:34] <rockenrola> Shoopuf: it seems you have a problem with your card. you can listen to music?
[12:34] <SealedWithAKiss> Does anybody know how I can rip an audio CD to MP3 format?
[12:34] <aslam_> something's wrong my music isn't playing either... let me restart and see if it does anything
[12:34] <emorris> ﻿SealedWithAKiss: did you install liblame0, as someone suggested?
[12:34] <rockenrola> SealedWithAKiss: liblame didn't worked ?
[12:34] <Shoopuf> rockenrola: i was just listening to some music... but I only get sound if I choose "USB device" from the Sound option... It's an onboard sound. I can't change the volume at all via GUI because of a known bug of the volume sliders bouncing up and down.
[12:34] <DistroJockey> Shoopuf, found this post, maybe it helps? :  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337276
[12:34] <SealedWithAKiss> emorris,  it wouldn't install.
[12:35] <SealedWithAKiss> rockenrola,
[12:35] <Shoopuf> sound for DVD and audio works fine, just cant change the volume... and game sound doesnt work :)
[12:35] <emorris> ﻿SealedWithAKiss: why?
[12:35] <on5sl> unop: i don't get you...
[12:35] <unop> on5sl, do you have any windows clients that create directories on the samba share?
[12:35] <on5sl> unop: on a windows client a can perftly create direcotry with the right permissions....so i really think that ubuntu is the cause..
[12:36] <SealedWithAKiss> emorris, it started attempting to install an Apache webserver.
[12:36] <Swish> how can I force a defrag on a headless server running 8.04LTS?
[12:36] <SealedWithAKiss> It's been doing this whenever I try to install software.
[12:36] <emorris> ﻿SealedWithAKiss: what command did you give it?
[12:36] <Swish> I tried touch /forcefsck and then rebooting, but that did not "preen' (aka defragment) the root file system
[12:36] <SealedWithAKiss> emorris,  the exact command rockenrola  gave me.
[12:37] <rockenrola> SealedWithAKiss: it seems that you have apache enabled for installation
[12:37] <SealedWithAKiss> emorris,  give me the command again and i'll give you an error.
[12:37] <emorris> ﻿SealedWithAKiss: see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Ubuntu%208.04
[12:38] <DistroJockey> !defrag | Swish
[12:38] <KeithWeisshar> best buy is selling ubuntu complete edition, which version is it
[12:38] <SealedWithAKiss> rockenrola,  sudo aptitude install something ?
[12:38] <Swish> DistroJockey, that's not good enough.
[12:38] <kamola> there is a new version in amazon for 20 bucks
[12:38] <DistroJockey> Swish, why not?
[12:38] <on5sl> unop: ?
[12:38] <KeithWeisshar> is it cd or dvd
[12:38] <Swish> DistroJockey, this particular server has been running low on disk space for years and doing rotating backups.  It's -very- fragmented and affects performance significantly
[12:39] <unop> on5sl, try setting the "directory security umask" directive for your samba share - it ought to help -- also get acquainted on how samba maps unix permissions and ownership to NT permissions and ownership, it's there in the reference
[12:39] <emorris> ﻿SealedWithAKiss: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:39] <Swish> ie, I did an md5sum on some of the backup files there (and on identical files copied to a fresh identical-hardware server) and the md5 took about 3 times longer on the fragmented server
[12:39] <rockenrola> SealedWithAKiss: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras . liblame is included
[12:39] <aslam> something's wrong my music wont play but the login sound still plays and rythmbox freezes
[12:39] <DistroJockey> Swish, I'd add more space
[12:39] <aslam> or anyother music player
[12:40] <Swish> DistroJockey, won't help, the FS is already fragmented
[12:40] <kamola> dunno: http://www.amazon.com/ValuSoft-71685-Ubuntu-Linux/dp/B0018KAN9E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1215675518&sr=8-1
[12:40] <on5sl> unop: you mean the directory security mask in stead of umaks i guess?
[12:40] <Swish> and I don't have access to the console (it's far away)
[12:40] <Swish> like I said.  defrag options needed :)
[12:40] <dothash> hello
[12:40] <kamola> there is also a version for 13$, maybe without manual etc..
[12:40] <SealedWithAKiss> emorris rockenrola , couldn't find paclage.
[12:40] <DistroJockey> Swish, it is ext3?
[12:40] <Swish> DistroJockey, it is!
[12:40] <dothash> hey guys quick question, are there any software i can use to monitor my internet connection?
[12:41] <unop> on5sl, yes, the different umasks are outlined here - http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/AccessControls.html#id397285
[12:41] <Swish> I've read that supposedly if an fsck is forced on reboot, it does a "preen" on the fs, but I'm not sure why that isn't happening.  maybe because I need to defrag the root fs?
[12:41] <aslam> network monitor
[12:41] <Swish> (And it can only mount it read-only on reboot?)
[12:41] <KeithWeisshar> is the one from bestbuy the orignal 8.04 version without firefox 3
[12:41] <on5sl> unop: thx, i'll try it out
[12:41] <dothash> hey guys quick question, are there any software i can use to monitor my internet connection?
[12:42] <fwaokda> anyone know if hardy heron works on ps3 yet?
[12:42] <Shoopuf> DistroJockey: WOOOOOT! That post helped me... I had to type "asoundconf set-default-card default" ...But inside the alsamixer I still have the problem of "erratic volume bars" :) oh well
[12:42] <Swish> dothash, be more specific.  Would a packet sniffer do it?
[12:42] <emorris> ﻿SealedWithAKiss: oh, sorry. you need to enable multiverse
[12:42] <Swish> dothash, what kind of monitoring are you talking about
[12:42] <aslam> distrojockey my music wont play anymore but the longin sound still plays and my music player freezes
[12:42] <unop> on5sl, also to keep in mind, that the umask works in tandem with the directory permissions associated with the share, so you'll need to set the right directory permissions too
[12:42] <SealedWithAKiss> emorris, how?
[12:42] <dothash> just general monitoring to see which programs are connected to the net
[12:42] <DistroJockey> Shoopuf, cool, tis a start :)
[12:43] <cristian> hi pula
[12:43] <Swish> there might be a way to do that with netstat..
[12:43] <kamola> @keith... have a look: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8888563&st=ubuntu&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1211587312374
[12:43] <kamola> it's with ff
[12:43] <Swish> to list which processes have open TCP/IP connections
[12:43] <dothash> hmm...
[12:43] <DistroJockey> Swish, only thing I found so far is a reference to e2defrag
[12:44] <emorris> ﻿SealedWithAKiss: in synaptic: settings, repositories, Ubuntu software, tick all the boxes, close, reload
[12:44] <Swish> DistroJockey, /me looks
[12:44] <on5sl> unop: there is already an directory mask = 0777 on my samba server
[12:45] <unop> on5sl, and what are the permissions on the directory?
[12:46] <Zim0n> Hello all, are there any helpful people around that would like to help me with a problem im having with DNS/bind.. having issues with master/slave replication.. a PM would be great if you dont mind
[12:46] <on5sl> unop: just a sec..i'll cd to that direcotory
[12:47] <Swish> yech, so it would need the fs to be taken offline (ie, can't be run remotely) and then converted to ext2fs first
[12:47] <Swish> well at least it exists :)
[12:47] <KeithWeisshar> best buy may not have the 8.04.1 release
[12:47] <DistroJockey> aslam, does the following do anything:    aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:47] <KeithWeisshar> best buy may only have 8.04
[12:47] <KeithWeisshar> not 8.04.01
[12:47] <KeithWeisshar> that means no firefox 3
[12:47] <gam3r111> ho do i open .msrcincident files?
[12:48] <on5sl> unop the permissions for that dir on my samba server are 777
[12:49] <Swish> I was right, netstat -p -a will do it
[12:49] <Swish> good stuff.
[12:49] <ph8> has anyone found it easier to accidentally detach tabs in the gnome-terminal app recently? it's really annoying me - i keep managed to 'snap off' tabs i'm working on
[12:50] <openuser> hi everybody, do anybody know any app to convert between vidx and avi???
[12:50] <der|kunstler> openuser, mencoder
[12:50] <Swish> by "vidx" do you mean xvid? ;)
[12:50] <KeithWeisshar> best buy version of ubunt doesn't include the .1 update
[12:51] <bazhang> KeithWeisshar, thanks but that's offtopic here
[12:51] <Swish> .avi isn't a a file format, it's an encapsulation layer that allows many kinds of file formats inside it
[12:51] <SealedWithAKiss> emorris, http://pastebin.ca/1067977
[12:51] <der|kunstler> How do I change the gnome-menu behavior... for example, to not show the description of the applications... I know you can do it, but I don't remember how
[12:51] <aslam> distrojockey... yea that played the startup sound... im guessin prob with plugins?
[12:51] <openuser> Swish: I didn't type correctly, sorry
[12:51] <Swish> xvid files are already stored as .avi
[12:51] <Swish> just rename it ;)
[12:51] <benny269> How can I find out which RAM I need to upgrade my laptop? I can't seem to get Crucial's scanner to work
[12:52] <DistroJockey> aslam, yeah, me too. What are you trying to play?
[12:52] <Swish> openuser, so what's your real question?  How come you want to change your movie file format?
[12:52] <openuser> Swish: really!!??, There will be any problem to play the renamed movie in a dvd?
[12:53] <der|kunstler> How do I change the gnome-menu behavior... for example, to not show the description of the applications... I know you can do it, but I don't remember how
[12:53] <Swish> openuser, you want to play a DVD in a normal DVD player?
[12:53] <openuser> Swish: yes
[12:53] <on5sl> unop: added the default security maks option to my smb.conf and restart smb but that doesn't help
[12:53] <aslam> mp3
[12:53] <dr_Willis> 'playing a avi/video file in a dvd player' depends a lot on the special features of the dvd player. some can play divx and other video files
[12:53] <Swish> does the DVD player support MPEG4 decoding?
[12:53] <emorris> ﻿﻿SealedWithAKiss: Add the following line to either /etc/apt/apt.conf:              APT::Cache-Limit "8388608";
[12:53] <Swish> if not, you'll need to "re-encode" your xvid movie file to MPEG2 before you burn it to DVD
[12:54] <aslam> i installed the "bad" plugins so i uninstalled that and installing "ugly" and going to reinstall the restricted
[12:54] <openuser> Swish: I have no idea, dvd isn't mine, I'm telling the instructions to another person by phone
[12:54] <Swish> I don't know what the best software is on ubuntu these days to do that
[12:54] <Swish> someone else here might know though :)
[12:54] <aslam> anyother plugins is should have... the more the better
[12:54] <emorris> ﻿SealedWithAKiss: woops /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf
[12:54] <kamola> how much ram does 8.04 need?
[12:54] <DistroJockey> aslam, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[12:55] <openuser> Swish: If it plays avi, will it play a renamed file with extension .avi , I guess yes, but I'm not sure
[12:55] <der|kunstler> Swish, he wants to make a DVD to play on a generic DVD Player ?
[12:55] <FocusLocus> what is the correct package name for svn ?
[12:55] <dr_Willis> !info DeVeDe
[12:55] <Swish> der|kunstler, that's what it sounds like.. but now he's saying that the DVD player "plays .avi's already"
[12:55] <Swish> so I'm not sure ;)
[12:55] <der|kunstler> Swish, uhm...
[12:55] <Swish> I think he should just burn it to DVD in MPEG2 format
[12:55] <kamola> 256MB enough?
[12:56] <DJ_HaMsTa> what is the command to list all network connections in ubuntu ?
[12:56] <der|kunstler> yeah, to ensure compatibility
[12:56] <FocusLocus> nm, I found it
[12:56] <Swish> DJ_HaMsTa, netstat -a
[12:56] <der|kunstler> DJ_HaMsTa, ifconfig
[12:56] <emorris> ﻿DJ_HaMsTa: ifconfig
[12:56] <Swish> oooh let's see who got it!  is it ifconfig or netstat!
[12:56] <DJ_HaMsTa> netstat it is
[12:56]  * Swish rubs hands!
[12:56] <openuser> Swish: emm... does the app mentioned convert to divx?
[12:56] <Swish> haha
[12:56] <Swish> openuser, do what der|kunstler said.  use devede
[12:56] <Swish> you want to convert to MPEG2 and burn an actual DVD like you'd buy at the store
[12:57] <Swish> that way it will play in any DVD player
[12:57] <der|kunstler> openuser, DeVede is your choice here
[12:57] <DistroJockey> kamola, 1GB is probably recommended
[12:57] <Swish> ubuntu server can probably get by with 256 :)
[12:57] <Swish> I'd still lean toward 512 though
[12:58] <der|kunstler> Swish, I want the gnome-menu to display only the application name, not the name-description. I did it on previous versions of gnome, but I'm not finding the option in 2.22.3...
[12:58] <nickbooker> OK I can find jigdo files for the Ubuntu Hardy CDs, but not for the DVDs.  Can anybody tell me where to find them?
[12:58] <openuser> der|kunstler: It seem to be good, it's designed to make the movies able to be reproduced in a home dvd player
[12:58] <SealedWithAKiss> emorris, same eroor.
[12:58] <SealedWithAKiss> error*
[12:58] <simon__> exit
[12:58] <der|kunstler> openuser, yeah, DeVede is exactly what you need, and it's very user friendly
[12:59] <Swish> I should try devede
[12:59] <on5sl> unop: ?
[12:59] <der|kunstler> openuser, buf it you want to convert different kinds of formats... then mencoder is your way to go
[12:59] <Swish> I used to use "gordianKnot" for windows to do all my home movie encoding/transcoding
[12:59] <emorris> ﻿ SealedWithAKiss: what did you do to get the error?
[12:59] <Swish> ooh mencoder!
[12:59] <der|kunstler> Swish, have you tried MediaCoder, that's the bomb for windows :P
[12:59] <Swish> (that name sounds so gay, by the way)
[12:59] <Swish> hehe I havent
[12:59] <der|kunstler> hahaha lol
[12:59] <der|kunstler> men-coder, yeah!
[12:59] <openuser> der|kunstler: I'll install bought xd
[13:00] <der|kunstler> openuser, *both* :D
[13:00] <openuser> der|kunstler: My English isn't perfect, I'm spanish xd
[13:00] <der|kunstler> openuser, I'm dominican :P
[13:01] <Swish> hmm.  I wonder if mencoder can stream an encoded media so it can be played while it's still being encoded
[13:01] <openuser> der|kunstler: ypu seem to write english very well
[13:01] <benny269> How can I find out which RAM I need to upgrade my laptop? I can't seem to get Crucial's scanner to work
[13:01] <aslam> distrojockey no luck still doesn't play... movie player gave this error Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[13:01] <t0ms> ImportError: No module named _md5
[13:01] <der|kunstler> openuser, thanks :)
[13:01] <Swish> benny269, go to the laptop manufacturer's website and lookup the .pdf manual or other documentation
[13:01] <t0ms> aaa :'(
[13:02] <kinglet> hey guys can u help me about this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26447/
[13:02] <DistroJockey> benny269, google RAM upgrade <modeloflaptop>
[13:02] <DistroJockey> aslam, try Totem?
[13:03] <kinglet> hey guys can u help me about this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26447/
[13:03] <aslam> distrojockey  i have to download totem but regardless it should play with the other players
[13:03] <bazhang> kinglet, what is the issue
[13:03] <nezby> ahoj
[13:03] <der|kunstler> kinglet, try this:   apt-get install -f
[13:03] <IdleOne> kinglet, why not use the pidgin in the repos?
[13:03] <DistroJockey> aslam, ohh, I thought it was default with Ubuntu
[13:03] <kinglet> der|kunstler: I tried this way! but its not work!
[13:04] <nezby> jsou tu nejaký češi
[13:04] <IdleOne> der|kunstler, that wont work he needs to upgrade the perl version also
[13:04] <kinglet> IdleOne: repos? what is repos? :D
[13:04] <der|kunstler> kinglet, in that case, use pidgin in the repos
[13:04] <IdleOne> !repos | kinglet
[13:04] <der|kunstler> IdleOne, I think his best choice is to just install the pidgin from the repos
[13:04] <IdleOne> der|kunstler, agreed
[13:04] <der|kunstler> it's just too much of a hasle to do it manually,.... I did it on my slackware days, hehe! now I don't have time to do that
[13:05] <IdleOne> kinglet, why not use the pidgin that is installed by ubuntu?
[13:05] <aslam> distrojockey... my bad... that error was by totem
[13:05] <kinglet> IdleOne: cuz it is not the latest version!
[13:05] <kinglet> IdleOne: I am installing the new version 2.4.3
[13:05] <DistroJockey> aslam, tried a different file?
[13:05] <KeithWeisshar> when was ubuntu 8.04.1 released
[13:06] <DistroJockey> KeithWeisshar, a couple of days ago
[13:06] <openuser> what happened??!
[13:06] <IdleOne> openuser, netsplit
[13:06] <IdleOne> they will return in a minute
[13:06] <IdleOne> !split
[13:06] <openuser> IdleOne: ahh
[13:06] <aslam> yes
[13:06] <kinglet> IdleOne: sorry disconnected! can u help me more?
[13:07] <aslam> distrojockey... my whole library isn't playing... banshee just tried to play every single file giving the same error... unkown error
[13:07] <aslam> tried some other podcast that wouldn't play either
[13:07] <IdleOne> kinglet, the newest version is not always the best version. if you want to you can look at the depends that are required and compile them all yourself but that is probably not the best idea
[13:08] <kinglet> IdleOne: I know! but I want to use it ...
[13:08] <DistroJockey> aslam, you could try changing the device used by double clicking on the speaker icon
[13:08] <der|kunstler> kinglet, do you need that specific version ?
[13:08] <KeithWeisshar> is the version from best buy out of date
[13:08] <KeithWeisshar> will will 8.04.1 be released to best buy
[13:08] <IdleOne> KeithWeisshar, best buy sells Ubuntu?
[13:08] <KeithWeisshar> yes
[13:08] <kinglet> der|kunstler: yes! plz just tell me what is this problem and how I can resolve it
[13:08] <dr_Willis> You can easially update 8.04 to 8.04.1
[13:09] <KeithWeisshar> $20
[13:09] <IdleOne> hah
[13:09] <bazhang> KeithWeisshar, that is offtopic here
[13:09] <DistroJockey> aslam, and choosing something else in File - Change Device
[13:09] <IdleOne> KeithWeisshar, downloaded it it is FREE @ www.ubuntu.com
[13:09] <dr_Willis> Ive seen BestBuy sell Linux disrtos that were several years out of date. :)
[13:09] <bazhang> KeithWeisshar, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:09] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: it's only free if you don't pay for your bandwidth
[13:09] <dr_Willis> !shipit
[13:09] <IdleOne> gordonjcp, everybody pays for bandwith it is just a question of how much
[13:09] <Swish> benny269, there are some for windows at least... like PC Wizard 2008 or  whatever
[13:10] <gordonjcp> IdleOne: exactly
[13:10]  * DistroJockey agrees with dr_Willis
[13:10] <aslam> distrojockey that didn't change anything... still the same error
[13:10] <KeithWeisshar> does shipit have 8.04.1
[13:10] <bazhang> benny269, are you doing this manually?
[13:10] <Swish> there must be something for linux too.. assuming dmesg doesn't list it already
[13:10] <der|kunstler> kinglet, if you try to install that version of pidgin, you'll have to install some packages that will go out of your distro's version, and it will make your system unstable
[13:10] <dr_Willis> I imagine there are Linux Magazines at the local bookstore that have Ubuntu included also.
[13:10] <IdleOne> KeithWeisshar, shipit will probably send you 8.04 but after install it will auto update
[13:10] <bazhang> ot
[13:10] <gam3r111> ﻿how do i open .msrcincident files?
[13:10] <KeithWeisshar> how big is the update to 8.04.1
[13:10]  * DJ_Ringo suggests linux magazine as beng a good soure for distro diskc
[13:10] <IdleOne> bazhang, sorry about the ot
[13:10] <fabz0r> how do i change my command line video resolution?
[13:10] <benny269> bazhang: Installing RAM manually? Yes - as in buy it and install myself
[13:10] <bazhang> nm everyone is doing it
[13:11] <DistroJockey> aslam, sorry, out of ideas atm
[13:11] <der|kunstler> gam3r111, try HelpCtr.exe
[13:11] <bazhang> benny269, crack it open and look then; that is what I did
[13:11] <kinglet> der|kunstler: so what is that packages?
[13:11] <der|kunstler> gam3r111, http://filext.com/file-extension/MSRCINCIDENT
[13:11] <kinglet> der|kunstler: I downloaded em from getdeb.net
[13:11] <bazhang> benny269, what laptop version
[13:11] <der|kunstler> kinglet, if you start installing things out of the repos, your system has a very big change on getting unstable... all of the versions are made to work together
[13:12] <kinglet> der|kunstler: and pidgin-data has been installed but the other packages no
[13:12] <der|kunstler> kinglet, which version are you running, 8.04 ?
[13:12] <Delano> I installed Ubuntu 8.04. NOW my network connections DO NOT WORK. WHY????
[13:12] <fabz0r> i want high rez tty resolution
[13:12] <der|kunstler> Delano, probably your network card modules are not up
[13:12] <Delano> And why does Ubuntu NOT save my settings????????
[13:12] <kinglet> der|kunstler: no! my ubuntu is 7.10
[13:12] <bazhang> fabz0r, how high
[13:12] <der|kunstler> Delano, do an ifconfig -a and see if you see any 'eth0' somewhere
[13:12] <benny269> bazhang: I would, but I'm abroad where I want to buy the hardware but I'd have to buy tools etc to open it. I really do just want a scanner or software solution
[13:12] <fabz0r> 1280x1024
[13:12] <Delano> der|kunstler: In Windows they don't work now
[13:13] <fabz0r> iff possible
[13:13] <Delano> ONLY in Ubuntu
[13:13] <Delano> How the hell???
[13:13] <der|kunstler> kinglet, ah, that's why, well.. my recommendation to you is to upgrade to 8.04, if you do so, then your packages will get updated to the latest, and you'll get pidgin 2.4.1
[13:13] <bazhang> benny269, you know the make and model
[13:13] <benny269> bazhang: Compaq Presario V5207TU
[13:13] <bisho> Hi! Where I could ask for bug reconsideration?
[13:13] <bazhang> Delano, watch the cursing
[13:13] <kyper> Hi
[13:13] <dr_Willis> Delano,  you are refering to wired or wireless networks?
[13:13] <Delano> Wired
[13:13] <der|kunstler> Delano, you installed ubuntu and then you NICs don't work on win32 ?
[13:13] <Delano> Yes
[13:13] <kyper> I'm trying to get 3 screen running xinerma on ubuntu 8.04 LTS 32bit
[13:14] <kyper> getting major problems trying to get fglrx to detect the secon ati card
[13:14] <kyper> any suggestions help?
[13:14] <fabz0r> well thanks anyways i guess ill check the forums
[13:14] <kinglet> der|kunstler: the newest version is 2.4.3 not 2.4.1 but I don want to upgrade my ubuntu! I think this is not a problem that need to upgrade an OS!
[13:14] <der|kunstler> kinglet, in that case you need to know more how linux works then
[13:14] <Delano> Hello?
[13:15] <der|kunstler> kinglet, it's not that you have to upgrade, but that's my personal recommendation to avoid further problems
[13:15] <gordonjcp> kinglet: you could always build it from source
[13:15] <kinglet> der|kunstler: tnx
[13:15] <der|kunstler> Delano, I don't really know, because the things yo do in linux are not related to windows stuff... except if you burn the NICs
[13:15] <aslam> distrojockey... i have virtualbox sharing the alsa driver... that wouldn't make a difference right... although its not running
[13:15] <gordonjcp> kinglet: I don't recommend you do that unless you know what you're doing
[13:15] <gordonjcp> kinglet: come to that, I don't recommend it even if you do know what you're doing ;-)
[13:15] <der|kunstler> hehehe
[13:16] <kinglet> gordonjcp: tnx man
[13:16] <DistroJockey> aslam, not sure sorry. Out of my area of knowledge
[13:16] <Delano> der|kunstler: all I know is, my network settings were working PERFECTLY until I installed Ubuntu yesterday
[13:16] <kinglet> gordonjcp: I think problem is the Perl version
[13:16] <IdleOne> kinglet, I already told you what to do. you need to upgrade perl libcairo2 libglib2.0-0 libpango1.0-0 libpurple0. which probably have a bunch of they're own depends and if you think all that hassle is worth it then go ahead. personally I would just upgrade the OS and get the latest version Ubuntu offers
[13:16] <der|kunstler> Delano, on ubuntu they work ?
[13:16] <kinglet> gordonjcp: der|kunstler I should upgrade it at first
[13:16] <Delano> der|kunstler: yes, that is how I'm chatting here now
[13:16] <gordonjcp> kinglet: hm, in which case you can't really do much without upgrading perl and that might very well have knock-on effects for everything else
[13:17] <gordonjcp> kinglet: which version of Ubuntu are you on just now?
[13:17] <gam3r111> ﻿der|kunstler, how does that help me?
[13:17] <kinglet> IdleOne: Ok I will try it
[13:17] <der|kunstler> gam3r111, well.. to get some info about the file extension you mentioned :)
[13:17] <der|kunstler> Delano, ok, they work so the NICs are not the problem
[13:17] <der|kunstler> Delano, on windows, do they show the status ?
[13:17] <kinglet> IdleOne: gordonjcp der|kunstler tnx guys I will try it
[13:17] <IdleOne> kinglet, you will try compiling all that yourself?
[13:17] <lance> hi all
[13:17] <Delano> Yes
[13:17] <gam3r111> ﻿der|kunstler, ik wat it is i just need a way to open it in ubuntu
[13:18] <der|kunstler> kinglet, remember.... installing things manually in linux is not the best idea, even if you're experienced
[13:18] <Delano> I have a wired DSL router
[13:18] <der|kunstler> gam3r111, well... try searching in the forums, that might help
[13:18] <Delano> It connects fine,  but nothing o\comes through
[13:18] <IdleOne> kinglet, good luck with that :)
[13:18] <Delano> I figured perhaps Ubuntu modified the settings somehow, but it works in Ubuntu
[13:18] <felix> Hello, i am a newbie in ubuntu. Im trying to install bibus for my openoffice.org and therefore have to edit the sources.list. But if i try to save it, it wont work (i use konqueror and Dolphin). How can i get it done?
[13:18] <der|kunstler> Delano, , ok, it connects OK, but no packages are sent/received
[13:18] <bazhang> kinglet, back up first
[13:18] <Delano> Yes
[13:19] <IdleOne> kinglet, yes do a backup first please
[13:19] <der|kunstler> Delano, do this... reboot to windows, do an 'ipconfig /renew', and then check if you have the IP configuration correct, meaning IP address, subnet mask, default gateway, and primare/alternate DNS servers, then try doing a ping and see how it goes, it shoud work
[13:19] <_paneb> i googled for rnv ( a relaxng compact syntax validator) for ubuntu and got http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/text/rnv. how do i install it though?
[13:19] <IdleOne> Delano, have you tried rebooting the router?
[13:20] <Whokai> heeey!!!!
[13:20] <Delano> What do I do
[13:20] <Mark17> hello, my network doesnt work anymore. ifconfig -> shows correct information, /etc/init.d/networking restart -> no errors, did try other network calbe/switch port
[13:20] <Mark17> what can it be?
[13:20] <gam3r111> ﻿der|kunstler, it dosent
[13:20] <bazhang> _paneb, that is for #ubuntu+1 next version
[13:21] <_paneb> oh
[13:21] <der|kunstler> gam3r111, Sorry, that's not in my area of expertise...
[13:21] <der|kunstler> Mark17, ping is not successful ?
[13:21] <IdleOne> Delano, I would try rebooting the router. unplug it for a minute or two and turn off your pc also. then turn on the router wait for all the lights to come back on and then start up the pc and boot to windows
[13:21] <Mark17> no ping (in/out)
[13:21] <bazhang> _paneb, what does apt-cache search rnv turn up
[13:21] <Mark17> tried to google.com and to an ip that i know that works
[13:22] <der|kunstler> Mark17, is it detecting the device that it's connected to, do an 'arp -a'
[13:22] <der|kunstler> Mark17, if you try to browse to google using the IP address can you get in ?
[13:22] <_paneb> bazhang, libclass-returnvalue-perl and pornview
[13:22] <Alberts> hi all
[13:22] <Delano> Hello?
[13:22] <der|kunstler> Delano, here
[13:22] <Mark17> der|kunstler: ip to google not possible
[13:22] <IdleOne> later folks have a good one
[13:22] <gam3r111> can anyone help me
[13:22] <der|kunstler> Delano, do that IdleOne told you, reboot the router, leave it off for a while, then reboot to windows
[13:22] <bazhang> _paneb, then you need to wait for October or go to #ubuntu+1 and start testing :)
[13:23] <kosnick> hi i face some problem with mozilla thinderbird - anyone know if there is a channel about it in freenode?
[13:23] <Mark17> arp -a: ? ([gateway ip]) at <incomplete> on eth1
[13:23] <der|kunstler> Delano, do you have a static LAN ip or you are using DHCP >?
[13:23] <der|kunstler> Mark17, arp -a shows nothing ?
[13:23] <Mark17> only the line that i did just give (but with the real gateway ip)
[13:24] <khamael> is ther a list over printers supported in ubuntu?
[13:24] <bazhang> !printers
[13:24] <der|kunstler> Mark17, well... did it show  a MAC address ?
[13:24] <kosnick> hi i face some problem with mozilla thunderbird - anyone know if there is a channel about it in freenode?
[13:24] <Mark17> no mac address
[13:24] <hm> join #leopard irc.osx86.hu
[13:24] <Musli> hi! my firefox lags as hell on flash sites can this be fixed?
[13:24] <bazhang> khamael, which one
[13:24] <der|kunstler> Mark17, that means it's a layer 2 or layer 1 problem ( cable or device )
[13:24] <Delano> der|kunstler: what did you get last?
[13:24] <felix> Hello, i am a newbie in ubuntu. Im trying to install bibus for my openoffice.org and therefore have to edit the sources.list. But if i try to save it, it wont work (i use konqueror and Dolphin). How can i get it done?
[13:24] <der|kunstler> Mark17, try another cable
[13:24] <Mark17> i will check the network card now
[13:24] <leeping2007> Hey there .. I'm playing with my bash completion, and I'd like the tab-complete to include everything in my path.  Is this possible?
[13:25] <khamael> bazhang: epson dx4450
[13:25] <Mark17> i did try another cable and other switch port
[13:25] <der|kunstler> Delano, I'm sorry ?
[13:25] <kosnick> felix : i guess the problem is that you are not "superuser"
[13:25] <der|kunstler> Mark17, another cable and another switchport.... the cable must be Straight Through, for PC-Switch connections
[13:25] <Delano> der|kunstler: what should I do?
[13:25] <kosnick> felix : actually you are not root
[13:25] <benny269> bazhang: Did you manage to find anything on the Presario?
[13:25] <der|kunstler> Delano, I'll help you but u need to give me more info
[13:25] <felix> yeah i guess so but i didnt find any kind of administrator mode
[13:25] <bushwakko> my nvidia card doesn't seem to work correctly. it uses 100% cpu in glxgears, even though direct rendering is on and glxinfo looks correct
[13:25] <kosnick> felix : open a console and edit your file like this : sudo gedit sources.list
[13:26] <der|kunstler> Delano, do you have the network using a Static LAN ip or using DHCP ?
[13:26] <kosnick> felix you will be asked for your root password
[13:26] <felix> ill try thx
[13:26] <Delano> der|kunstler: how do you think Ubuntu messed up my network connection?
[13:26] <kosnick> felix : this will probably save your file
[13:26] <Delano> der|kunstler: dhcp
[13:26] <bazhang> benny269, not the ram type; many many pages with specs though-->how old is the laptop
[13:26] <der|kunstler> Delano, Based on my experience, that's not possible, but things happen
[13:26] <kosnick> felix : watch what you are doing with it , and preferably save a back up before
[13:26] <der|kunstler> Delano, ok, in that case if it works on ubuntu, it should work on windows
[13:26] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4592931#post4592931 khamael
[13:27] <der|kunstler> Delano, did you check that you get an IP address from the router's DHCP server ?
[13:27] <Delano> der|kunstler: well, it was working yesterday, but not now since I installed
[13:27] <benny269> bazhang: 2 years or so
[13:27] <Delano> der|kunstler: yes
[13:27] <felix> yep i have it burt konsole says sudo: gedit: command not found
[13:27] <der|kunstler> Delano, ok
[13:27] <Musli> hi! my firefox lags as hell on flash sites can this be fixed?
[13:27] <darrend> how do I add a second monitor?  which conf tool?  or do I need to edit xorg.conf manually?
[13:27] <lance> i have dual os windows & ubuntu .... can i format only windows.. is that possiable??????????
[13:27] <der|kunstler> Delano, when you do a ping, what does it say ?
[13:27] <Luxx16126> How to get 1440X900 resolution to my lcd with linux ubuntu..thank you! just need very simple guide for it.
[13:27] <khamael> bazhang: thanks. I guess this means I can open the box?
[13:27] <bazhang> felix, should be gksudo gedit file
[13:27] <Delano> der|kunstler: I tried booting into Windows 19 times already, not once does it work
[13:27] <Mark17> network card did move a litle bit :S
[13:27] <kosnick> felix : one moment
[13:27] <Delano> I tried turning the router on and off... no go
[13:27] <bazhang> khamael, did you read the link?
[13:28] <dans34> !xsetup Luxx16126
[13:28] <dans34> huh
[13:28] <Delano> der|kunstler: the only common factor is Ubuntu
[13:28] <der|kunstler> It's a layer 3 problem ( TCP/IP ), meaning you should check the connectivity, try a ping and see how it goes, I'll be here
[13:28] <der|kunstler> Mark17, is it working now ?
[13:28] <khamael> bazhang: not the entire thing. just read that someone got it working
[13:28] <MariachiAC> Hello evedryone. How do I install 32 bit programs on a 64 bit system?
[13:28] <bazhang> khamael, aha
[13:28] <felix> bazhang: heres what comes then:
[13:28] <felix> ## Bibus -bibliographic database for use with openoffice.org
[13:28] <felix> deb http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/bibus-biblio ./
[13:28] <felix> deb-src http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/bibus-biblio ./
[13:28] <der|kunstler> MariachiAC, yes, but you need to install the 32-bit libc libraries
[13:28] <Delano> You're not very helpful
[13:29] <felix> bazhang: heres what comes then: gksudo ist currently uninstalled blablabla...
[13:29] <Delano> I'll try somewhere else
[13:29] <pepe_swash> hello people. What graphical archive editor do you use? FileRoller is unable to drop on anything else than desktop, xarchive doesn't know the basics on dnd... i miss my good old winrar...
[13:29] <der|kunstler> Delano, ok ;)
[13:29] <bazhang> felix, paste that in then save and sudo apt-get update then install
[13:29] <Mark17> der|kunstler: after putting the network card back the right way it is working
[13:29] <kosnick> felix : try this one : "sudo /usr/bin/gedit /etc/apt/sources.list "   remove the " before giving this command and save a backup of this file too
[13:29] <der|kunstler> Mark17, told you :-D... it was a device issue
[13:29] <bazhang> delano wait
[13:29] <bazhang> oh he left
[13:29] <MariachiAC> Ok, please realize I'm blind and hte messages are goingg fast for me. So how do I go about intalling the 32bit libraries?
[13:29] <der|kunstler> Mark17, the next time, if ARP doesn't show a MAC address, that means that the devices are not communicating correctly
[13:30] <Mark17> thank you der|kunstler
[13:30] <atlas95> Hi !
[13:30] <felix> bazhang : ill try
[13:30] <atlas95> Could you see the bottom of this page please : http://www.pharscape.org/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,68/page,viewtopic/t,474/postdays,0/postorder,asc/start,15/
[13:30] <lance> i have dual os windows & ubuntu .... can i format only windows.. is that posiable ??????????
[13:30] <khamael> bazhang: is it a bad sign that it isn`t listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersEpson ?
[13:30] <kosnick> anyone knows whether there is a mozilla-thunderbird channel in freenode?
[13:30] <lance> is there any form link ??
[13:30] <atlas95> I have problem for launch a program with udev rule after plug a wwan card*
[13:31] <kosnick> felix : is it working?
[13:31] <der|kunstler> MariachiAC, try this: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6835/
[13:31] <bazhang> khamael, well the forums said they got it working and those pages are sometimes out of date; best to read the link and see if you can follow the steps
[13:31] <der|kunstler> kosnick, what's going on with thunderbird, if you don't mind me asking
[13:31] <mrtamse> hello there
[13:32] <mrtamse> could some one help with a litle trouble i have'
[13:32] <khamael> bazhang: ok. the problem it is harder to return it, if it is open
[13:32] <Luxx16126> dans34 ...what??? "xsetup" ?
[13:32] <kosnick> der , no problem with you asking : well if i dont do something wrong (...) i can t have a calendar
[13:32] <felix> Bazhang: usr/bin/gedit not found is all what happens
[13:32] <bazhang> felix, you are on server?
[13:32] <der|kunstler> kosnick, you mean you can't have a calendar in thunderbird ?
[13:32] <felix> bazhang: usr/bin/gedit not found is all what happens
[13:32] <mch81> guys, i got a lil problem. Ubuntu doesnt start the cron daemon on bootup -> when i start it manually with sudo /etc/init.d/cron start it works w/o problems
[13:32] <mrtamse> how  is  it  possible to get cube working  with two screens  i have  nvidia  9800 GTX and running ubuntu hardy 8.0.4
[13:32] <T3Roar> hi guys, I'm trying to install a source package, so I've untarred, ran ./configure, but there is no makefile for me to run 'make'
[13:33] <der|kunstler> mch81, change the permissions:    chmod a+x /etc/init.d/cron
[13:33] <kosnick> felix : you might need to install it through synaptic or use another editor
[13:33] <mch81> thx kunstler ill try
[13:33] <khamael> bazhang: the guy on the forum has the same model as me
[13:33] <MariachiAC> thank you.
[13:33] <der|kunstler> mch81, what happens is that the cron daemon is not set to executable, if you want you can confirm it using:   ls -l /etc/init.d/cron
[13:33] <felix> bazhang: synaptic?
[13:33] <bazhang> khamael, well be sure you can figure out to follow those steps
[13:33] <lance> i have dual os windows & ubuntu .... can i format only windows.. is that possible ??????????
[13:33] <kosnick> der|kunstler : yes there is none, i found out that i can "make" new ones but that does not work
[13:33] <bazhang> felix gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:33] <mch81> alright der|kunstler, i did that now, lemme reboot to check :)
[13:34] <T3Roar> lance, yes you can format only the windows partition
[13:34] <der|kunstler> mch81, no
[13:34] <lance> how could i ?
[13:34] <khamael> bazhang: ok. you mean that if I can follow the steps successfully, it should work?
[13:34] <der|kunstler> mch81, well, yes, it's better than using telinit... hehe go and reboot! :D
[13:34] <mch81> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1761 2008-04-08 20:02 /etc/init.d/cron
[13:34] <mch81> it says that now
[13:34] <mch81> ;)
[13:34] <T3Roar> lance, what is it you want to do?
[13:34] <bazhang> khamael, just can you understand them
[13:34] <der|kunstler> mch81, that means it's  executable and it will run
[13:34] <der|kunstler> mch81, try it and lemme know if it works
[13:34] <felix> bazhang: gksudo not installed, but he tells me how to install gksudo. maybe i should?
[13:35] <kosnick> der|kunstler : it wont let me make a new calendar
[13:35] <lance> i want to format only windows c;
[13:35] <T3Roar> lance, and what do you want to do with that partition?
[13:35] <der|kunstler> kosnick, I see, well, I don't really know, sorry about that
[13:35] <bazhang> felix, gksudo is not installed? what do you mean? are you running ubuntu?
[13:35] <kosnick> der|kunstler : ok
[13:35] <der|kunstler> bazhang, heh! good question :)
[13:35] <kosnick> thx for your time
[13:35] <bazhang> felix, where are you typing this?
[13:35] <lance> after that reinstall the windows
[13:35] <der|kunstler> kosnick, no problem, always here to help
[13:35] <mrtamse> hi  people
[13:35] <der|kunstler> lance, well... just reinstall the windows and recover grub as soon as you install
[13:35] <felix> good question maybe it kubuntu? i inherited this system
[13:36] <kosnick> der|kunstler : do you know if there is some channel about it in freenode?
[13:36] <T3Roar> lance, do you want to format the windows partition and reinstall windows on that same partition without affecting ubuntu?
[13:36] <t0ms> damn ubuntu
[13:36] <bazhang> felix, aha kubuntu
[13:36] <t0ms> 1 server down
[13:36] <der|kunstler> lance, after you install windows, do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[13:36] <t0ms> only packages from MAIN repositares
[13:36] <lance> yes u r correct
[13:36] <t0ms> upgrade
[13:36] <t0ms> server down
[13:36] <der|kunstler> kosnick, lemme do some research
[13:36] <bazhang> felix kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:36] <felix> sry i didnt know the difference
[13:36] <kosnick> der|kunstler : thx
[13:36] <lance> thank u let me check this link
[13:37] <der|kunstler> kosnick, http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/
[13:37] <porkpie> hi guy's can anyone help on this one please http://pastebin.com/m1014543d
[13:37] <der|kunstler> kosnick, see if that helps
[13:37] <T3Roar> I'm trying to install a source package, so I've untarred, ran ./configure, but there is no makefile for me to run 'make', what can I do?
[13:37] <bazhang> T3Roar, what package
[13:37] <kosnick> der|kunstler : once again thx!
[13:37] <T3Roar> pidgin-2.4.3
[13:37] <felix> Oh my god it works thx alot
[13:37] <the_darkside_986> how do I display smb:// links? what package do i get for that. i got samba package already. i'm trying to connect to a windows active directory folder
[13:37] <der|kunstler> lance, steps:    1- install windows on the same C: drive, (don't touch ubuntu), after you reinstall windows, ubuntu will not boot because grub was replaced by the ntdlr, to recover it, use the page I gave you, it's that simple
[13:37] <bazhang> T3Roar, why not from repos
[13:38] <der|kunstler> the_darkside_986, in nautilus it's built-in
[13:38] <atlas95> anybody can help me?
[13:38] <the_darkside_986> i get an error saying it has no software to display it
[13:38] <T3Roar> I've tried installing other sources not available in the repos and the same thing happens
[13:38] <felix> CU all
[13:38] <T3Roar> I want to get the hang of it
[13:38] <der|kunstler> the_darkside_986, are you using gnome or KDE ?
[13:38] <the_darkside_986> "No application is registered as handling this file"
[13:38] <the_darkside_986> Gnome
[13:38] <kamola> i'm running ubuntu on virtualbox but i can't see my hdd's, what do i have to do?`sata-controller is activated
[13:38] <the_darkside_986> Ubuntu Hardy Heron LTS
[13:38] <apinunt> I'm still treading in nowhere land regarding USB ports in Linux (Ubuntu 7.04), is similar support to that provided in WinXP forthcoming? My USB 2.0 controller works as a USB 2.0 controller in WinXP, but from best I can tell it appears as a USB 1.1 controller in Ubuntu, which is perhaps why I encounter failures writing large files to USB devices?
[13:38] <lance> ya got it .. will it affect my ubuntu datas
[13:38] <Musli> Hello.. can anyone help me with firefox .. it lags really  much on flash sites
[13:39] <bazhang> T3Roar, you have build-essential installed?
[13:39] <porkpie> T3Roar: any ideas on this one http://pastebin.com/m1014543d
[13:39] <the_darkside_986> Musli: are you using Gnash or Adobe's official Flash? There is nothing really one can do to fix laggy Adobe Flash because it is closed-source in the hands of Adobe.
[13:39] <T3Roar> if it didn't come with ubuntu, probably not, i'll check
[13:39] <porkpie> T3Roar: I have tried the --fix missing
[13:39] <bazhang> porkpie, what is the issue; how about a brief one-line description
[13:39] <Musli> ok I am using adobe
[13:40] <porkpie> bazhang: it's easier to see the output http://pastebin.com/m1014543d
[13:41] <porkpie> bazhang: I am trying to install curl ... but it doesn't seem to be in the repository ...same with php-curl
[13:41] <jerrcs> hey guys, im trying to get sensors working so i can probe the motherboard of my mac mini for temperatures... well, every time I run sensors, it tells me "no sensors found"... however, I've ran the sensors-detect program, I've also rebooted several times with the "i2c-dev" and "coretemp" modules loaded on boot. any ideas?
[13:41] <der|kunstler> the_darkside_986, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5341717
[13:41] <the_darkside_986> thx
[13:41] <bazhang> porkpie, what does apt-cache search curl turn up
[13:42] <bsusa> emorris: you there?
[13:42] <vallhalla81> is there a way to convert flv files in to 3gp or mp4 on ubuntu?
[13:42] <bazhang> lance, with compiz?
[13:42] <bazhang> !find curl
[13:42] <porkpie> bazhang: curl - Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server
[13:42] <bazhang> !info curl
[13:43] <bazhang> porkpie, ^^
[13:43] <Slart> vallhalla81: I think mencoder can do it.. you might have to download some kind of codec for 3gp though
[13:43] <vallhalla81> !mencoder
[13:43] <der|kunstler> vallhalla81, mencoder is your way to go
[13:43] <vallhalla81> i will have a look thank you
[13:44] <porkpie> bazhang: it tries to download but fails with the error
[13:44] <T3Roar> I've just installed the build-essential package and tried to run ./configure again but I get a different error
[13:44] <T3Roar> "GNU gettext tools not found"
[13:44] <porkpie> bazhang: I am running edgy
[13:44] <Slart> vallhalla81: I know you've already googled for it (of course you have =), but here's a link you must have missed http://blog.mypapit.net/2007/04/ffmpeg-based-batch-flv-to-3gp-converter-scripts.html
[13:44] <bazhang> porkpie, paste the error to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:44] <porkpie> OK
[13:44] <bazhang> edgy?
[13:45] <jerrcs> i try to be patient.. but where are all the advanced users at? :/ stuff in here is pretty simple.. where can I go to ask real questions rather than just linux-newbie things?
[13:45] <vallhalla81> Slart: cool thank you
[13:45] <bazhang> !eol | porkpie
[13:45] <der|kunstler> jerrcs, give it a shot! :)
[13:45] <wererui> How to change user name???
[13:45] <jerrcs> i did,about 5 minutes ago
[13:45] <der|kunstler> jerrcs, sorry, didn't see your question...
[13:45] <kamola> jerrcs, ubuntuforums.org
[13:45] <jerrcs> my question regarding sensors
[13:45] <jerrcs> kamola: i've done my searches
[13:45] <der|kunstler> jerrcs, you need to make sure that the sensor modules are running
[13:46] <jerrcs> i've tried to work on the issue my own with google searches and what not for 30 minutes or so
[13:46] <T3Roar> bazhang, any idea about "GNU gettext tools not found"?
[13:46] <der|kunstler> jerrcs, did you do an lsmod and see if the modules you are trying ot use are there ?
[13:46] <Musli> On flash sites my CPU is taking 100 % usage ;/
[13:46] <der|kunstler> Musli, you are not using the flash player, you're using gnash or something else
[13:46] <porkpie> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26456/
[13:46] <bazhang> T3Roar, how about taking this ubuntu-offtopic (this is just for fun and not a support question, right?)
[13:46] <jerrcs> der|kunstler: well, I thought sensors-detect told me to load coretemp and i2c-dev, which by lsmod, they are loaded
[13:46] <bazhang> porkpie, you see the eol link?
[13:46] <T3Roar> bazhang, it is a support question
[13:47] <der|kunstler> jerrcs, ok, they are loaded, and when you try to run sensors, what error does it show up ?
[13:47] <mch81> der|kunstler -> it still doesnt start :( i tried to purge it with apt-get and reinstall aswell but no. seems like some other service is blocking it
[13:47] <bazhang> T3Roar, why not install from the repos
[13:47] <porkpie> bazhang: yeah looks like a distro upgrade
[13:47] <der|kunstler> mch81, that's strange... what runlevel are you running..... type 'runlevel' in the terminal
[13:47] <mch81> N 2
[13:47] <newbi1> ihave been facing problems with my ubuntu 6.1.
[13:47] <jerrcs> der|kunstler: "No sensors found! Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need. Try sensors-detect to find out which these are."
[13:47] <T3Roar> bazhang, same thing happens when i'm installing things not available on repos
[13:47] <porkpie> bazhang: can you point me to a distro upgrade doc please
[13:47] <kamola> is there no way to mount sata drives into the virtualbox so that i'm able to have access on it?
[13:48] <Musli> yeah right now i am using gnash still lags as much as on adobe
[13:48] <bazhang> !upgrade | porkpie
[13:48] <der|kunstler> jerrcs, ok, lemme do some research
[13:48] <offline> hi, what is the exact trash path ?
[13:48] <jerrcs> i have a mac mini with a core duo processor :S
[13:48] <offline> i can not empty my trash
[13:48] <kamola> cuase it's pretty annoying to boot into linux and boot back to win cause i can't get my belkin wifi stick to work
[13:48] <bisho> Hi! Where I could ask for bug reconsideration?
[13:48] <bazhang> T3Roar, you are compiling; that is a different ball 'o wax
[13:48] <bazhang> !trash
[13:49] <bazhang> offline, ^^
[13:49] <mch81> runlevel 2, if the output of runlevel is correct. its weird ,, cron is in /etc/rc2.d/S89Cron
[13:49] <truemped> Hi! I have a question concerning my X server that occasionally hangs for a few seconds. AMD64 and nvidia card. Does anyone have an idea?
[13:49] <caspix> hello
[13:49] <offline> bazhang: ok thank bazhang
[13:49] <bushwakko> help! everything 3d uses 100% cpu on ubuntu 8.04 for me, with nvidia card. Also upgraded to 173. still the same, everthing seems to be working
[13:49] <T3Roar> bazhang, I need to be able to compile sources not in the repos
[13:49] <truemped> Or can anyone help me with this?
[13:49] <bazhang> T3Roar, which ones
[13:50] <T3Roar> bazhang, I don't have the specific ones now but I need to be able to
[13:50] <mch81> it might be a similar problem here: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=5286000
[13:50] <mch81> but i dunno how to change it, as the OP did
[13:50] <T3Roar> so i'd like to fix this error
[13:50] <porkpie> bazhang: I run 6.10 server with no gui ...
[13:50] <wererui> How to change user name???
[13:51] <bazhang> wererui, here on irc?
[13:51] <dxdemetriou> for ufw on boot it says that is enable, but after I login and check, it says that is disabled. I did the "sudo ufw enable", but on each boot I must start it manually
[13:51] <der|kunstler> wererui, why exactly you want to change your linux username ?
[13:51] <truemped> bushwakko, I nearly have the same problem... My X kind of hangs for a few seconds and then everything is fine again...
[13:51] <truemped> bushwakko, what have you done so far?
[13:51] <bushwakko> I have upgraded from the old drivers
[13:52] <bushwakko> the nvidia module loads fine now
[13:52] <bushwakko> direct rendering says its on
[13:52] <bushwakko> glxinfo looks fine
[13:52] <wererui> der|kunstler: I want to change it because its too long
[13:52] <kamola> wererui, type /nick yournick
[13:52] <bazhang> T3Roar, there is no compelling reason to compile pidgin; the one in the repos works fine.
[13:52] <porkpie> bazhang: I take it I must use the Network upgrade for ubuntu servers
[13:52] <wererui> kamola: No, i want to change it in ubuntu :)
[13:52] <newbi1> i m using ubuntu 6.10 when i want to update /whether or not use apt or software update i m failed to do so
[13:52] <T3Roar> bazhang, how about if I get this error for things unavailable in the repos
[13:52] <newbi1> i found errors . .
[13:52] <kamola> ^^
[13:53] <der|kunstler> wererui, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2845188
[13:53] <der|kunstler> wererui, see if that helps
[13:53] <porkpie> bazhang: do I use the update-manager-core ?
[13:53] <on5sl> when you hold your mouse upon an mp3 file, it starts playing automatically. That's very handy but the volume is WAY to loud then, is there an option to change the preview volume?
[13:53] <bushwakko> only thing i see is server glx is nvidia 1.4, client is same, and there is one called glx version: 1.3
[13:53] <bushwakko> dinno if it matters
[13:53] <kosnick> der|kunstler : its not in freenode , its on irc.mozilla.org , just in case
[13:53] <der|kunstler> kosnick, good to know ;-D
[13:53] <bushwakko> I'm thinking something mesa?
[13:53] <truemped> bushwakko, what is strange to me is that the CPU usage of X is very high while X hangs. Maybe its the nvidia driver in the repositories?
[13:53] <Red2> Hello people!
[13:53] <magnetron> newbi1, as you know, each ubuntu release is supported for 18 months, (except for the LTS release). there are no more updates for the 6.10 release.
[13:53] <bazhang> T3Roar, I always try to dissuade people from installing stuff from random websites. if you dont know what you are doing then it can come back to bite you.  What specific app do you have in mind.
[13:54] <wererui> der|kunstler: Nope, i found that out myself but the username is grayed out
[13:54] <bushwakko> my x doesn't hang though
[13:54] <magnetron> !enter | bushwakko
[13:54] <der|kunstler> wererui, in that case, my recommendation is to create a symbolic link to your old username in /home
[13:54] <T3Roar> bazhang, I understand, I'll stay away from non-repos applications, thanks for your help :)
[13:54] <der|kunstler> wererui, It is just theory, I don't know if that will work though
[13:54] <bushwakko> magnetron: sorry, I can see how that is a problem in a big channel
[13:54] <newbi1> can i upgrade to 7.1 ?
[13:54] <the_darkside_986> when I connect to a Windows share from nautilus, no items display... i don't know what else to do.
[13:55] <der|kunstler> the_darkside_986, did you try putting the username/password on the smb:// thingie ?
[13:55] <Red2> people, does the ubuntu have a new version? 8.04.1 i think?
[13:55] <magnetron> newbi1, not any longer, since your version is not supported
[13:55] <bsusa> hello
[13:55] <bsusa> is there an email client on ubuntu that allows to add hotmail addresses?
[13:55] <on5sl> bsusa: that's impossible
[13:56] <bsusa> i thought thunderbird can do it
[13:56] <DJones> bsusa: You can use hotmail email addresses in Evolution if you install the hotway addon
[13:56] <on5sl> hotmail only can be accesed with an internet browser or with the windows live mail app from micrisoft himself
[13:56] <magnetron> on5sl, bsusa: hotmail doesn't let you do that unless you pay them extra.
[13:56] <Red2> ubsusa, you could google for it if you want to. im sorry i dont know of any cause im not using any at the moment
[13:57] <der|kunstler> jerrcs, do you have the modules listed in /etc/modules ?
[13:57] <DJones> bsusa: But it will only work if you've got an old hotmail address from before they started charging, or one that you pay for
[13:57] <on5sl> it was possible using some hotmail to pop tricks and so on..but hotmail has disabled this too
[13:57] <on5sl> when you hold your mouse upon an mp3 file, it starts playing automatically. That's very handy but the volume is WAY to loud then, is there an option to change the preview volume?
[13:57] <bsusa> yep its def old
[13:58] <marijus_> anybody got compiz running with direct rendering on intel gfx driver?
[13:58] <DJones> bsusa: Have a look at this, this is what I did and it still works fine for me being able to access hotmail emails using evolution http://www.ubuntugeek.com/send-and-receive-your-hotmail-messages-through-evolution.html
[13:59] <bsusa> cool thanks man will check it out
[13:59] <Red2> people, do i need to install ubuntu studio 8.04.1 manually or it can be applied when using the update manager?
[13:59] <on5sl> bsusa: can you tell it when this works?
[14:00] <unimatrix9> hi there
[14:00] <der|kunstler> hi :)
[14:00] <unimatrix9> is it possible to convert an kvm image to vdi ( virtualbox ) ?
[14:00] <openuser>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[14:00] <vasileios> hi
[14:01] <dft> morning
[14:01] <bushwakko> Is there anyone here who can help me with a strange problem with my nvidia drivers? everything seems fine, the drivers, the xorg output, and all. but gl stuff uses 100% cpu.
[14:01] <the_darkside_986> der|kunstler: oh how do i specify username/pass in smb://URL ?
[14:01] <dft> I need some help getting my ich5 on board sound working
[14:01] <der|kunstler> the_darkside_986, nautilus smb://<username>@<server>/<share>
[14:01] <dft> basically I have no sound with v7.10
[14:01] <the_darkside_986> thanks
[14:01] <der|kunstler> yw
[14:02] <unimatrix9> or can virtualbox run kvm images?
[14:02] <Red2> bushwakko, did u use envy to install the drivers?
[14:02] <unimatrix9> i want to test the ubuntu mid , there  are some images, one is an kvm
[14:02] <slaw6> - Hi there, could anyone say me how much time (average) is needed for dist-upgrade?
[14:02] <bushwakko> Red2: I used synaptics and chose the never drivers
[14:02] <Red2> ﻿bushwakko, or did u do it manually?
[14:02] <bazhang> envyng-gtk Red2
[14:02] <slaw6> (packages from Internet)
[14:03] <jerrcs> der|kunstler: yes, they are listed there
[14:03] <der|kunstler> jerrcs, ok
[14:03] <bushwakko> Red2: I installed envyng-gtk now, will check it out
[14:03] <Red2> ﻿bushwakko, yeah like bazhang said... u should try from the pakage manager and install envy. it will auto find for you the correct drivers for ur card and it will most probabaly work
[14:03] <Red2> okey cook
[14:04] <Red2> cool*
[14:04] <bushwakko> restarting it now
[14:04] <unimatrix9> !mid
[14:04] <unimatrix9> any one know if there is an irc for the ubuntu MID edition?
[14:04] <Red2> does anybody know? must I manually reinstall ubuntu studio? cause i saw from the news that thereś a 8.04.1 version that came out....
[14:05] <fiXXXerMet> I have 3 drives in my computer;  2 identical ones and then a 120gb one.  Can I install Windows on the 120gb, and then put ubuntu as software raid 1 on the 2 identical ones, and then have lilo let me pick which os to boot?
[14:05] <unimatrix9> !lvm
[14:05] <dft> !sound
[14:06] <unavailable> how do i recover files that have been deleted from an SD flash card?
[14:06] <unimatrix9> but there is no info on the ubuntu MID edition, to bad
[14:06] <bushwakko> Red2: no luck
[14:06] <der|kunstler> jerrcs, did you read this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-501638.html
[14:07] <bushwakko> Red2: getting just 2000fps in glears too
[14:07] <unimatrix9> there is third party software to recover deleted files. but its not easy, photo's might be recovered, .. the rest, well...
[14:07] <unavailable> how do i recover files that have been deleted from an SD flash card?
[14:07] <unavailable> hmm
[14:07] <jerrcs> der|kunstler: i'll read over
[14:07] <Red2> ﻿bushwakko, hmmsss
[14:07] <unavailable> got a package name?
[14:07] <der|kunstler> jerrcs, lemme know if that doesn't help to keep lookin'
[14:07] <slaw6> to recover files: photorec / testdisk
[14:08] <backslash7> How can I find out where my usb stick just inserted is located in /dev/sdXX ?
[14:08] <kari> while downloading ubuntu using transission its resetting and starts from beginning..how do i fix it?
[14:08] <Red2> ﻿bushwakko, well maye someone else could help you... im not that pro in this stuff....
[14:08] <bushwakko> :/
[14:08] <Red2> ﻿bushwakko, btw, what card are you using?
[14:08] <bushwakko> 7300
[14:08] <unimatrix9> if the drive mounts first see if there is an hidden file , or an trash can files
[14:09] <kari> which is the best way to download ubuntu dvd torrent or direct?
[14:09] <Gin> backslash7, dmesg
[14:09] <unimatrix9> !mobile
[14:10] <DM1> WHY do my Windows network connections NOT work after installing Ubuntu????
[14:10] <backslash7> 1+0 records in
[14:10] <backslash7> 1+0 records out
[14:10] <backslash7> 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.0167119 s, 30.6 kB/s
[14:10] <backslash7> sorry
[14:11] <Gin> DM1, define a "Windows network connection" :\
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[14:11] <kari> ﻿which is the best way to download ubuntu dvd torrent or direct?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> how can i always make my system boot to command line only. no GDM
[14:11] <unimatrix9> i thought there is no windows network ...
[14:11] <Gin> kari, torrent, lot faster
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> or KDM
[14:11] <DM1> Gin: after I installed Ubuntu yesterday, my internet connections no longer work in win32
[14:11] <DM1> Why??
[14:11] <on5sl> kari: depins from your providor... normally torrent is fater but when your ips blocks this traffic...mirrors are faster then
[14:12] <Gin> DM1, how did you install ubuntu?
[14:12] <devil> ActionParsnip: u can change ur runlevel
[14:12] <on5sl> try both and continue xith the fastest one :p
[14:12] <unimatrix9> DMI open your dos prompt ipconfig
[14:12] <rsk> DM1: not ubuntu's fault.
[14:12] <DM1> Gin: wubi
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> DM1: you need to disable WOL as it holds the LAN
[14:12] <Red2> ﻿bushwakko, did u get envy from the package manager?
[14:12] <bushwakko> Red2: yes, used envyng-gtk to install
[14:12] <DM1> ActionParsnip: what is WOL?
[14:12] <DM1> Sorry, noobie here
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> DM1: Wake on LAN
[14:12] <unimatrix9> or ipconfig /all
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> DM1: you get a lot of this due to crap drivers and stuff, the card is waiting for wakeup packets to fire up windows so you have to disable it
[14:14] <unimatrix9> DMI , replug the utp
[14:14] <slaw6> backslash7: try mount (with no parameters, as normal user)
[14:14] <namo> ActionParsnip-> isnt that wake on lan have to be enabled first on the bios?
[14:14] <unimatrix9> or ipconfig /release
[14:14] <unimatrix9> dos prompt
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> namo: its also in the windows driver, dual booting is a waste of space anyway
[14:15] <DM1> unimatrix9: sorry, how do I replug the utp?
[14:15] <DM1> sorry. im totally new to this
[14:15] <kari> ﻿Gin:﻿on5sl:I have 256 kbps connection ..but firefox resets after sometime and restarts downloading..hence downloading 3 gb is impossible..but speed is very good
[14:15] <unimatrix9> pull it out and put it back in , but be carefull of the plug
[14:15] <namo> ActionParsnip-> i dont get it, on a windows driver? so if you bios has not enabled it, you are assuming windows driver will enable it anyways?
[14:15] <DM1> unimatrix9: I already tried that
[14:15] <Gin> kari, use bittorrent
[14:15] <offline> DMI: detach your LAN cable from your machine and plug it back
[14:15] <Slart> kari: try some kind of download helper.. something that resumes downloads
[14:15] <DM1> ActionParsnip: how do I disable it?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> namo: ive no idea either man, ive seen someone else have it and it was the cause, im looking for a link
[14:16] <on5sl> firefox resets? you you have a software problem then :p, well then you only have torrents left :p
[14:16] <devil> where is inittab in ubuntu 8.04
[14:16] <unimatrix9> DMI , if you have dos prompt , you find it in the windows menu , you can do an ipconfig /release
[14:16] <unimatrix9> wich will give new dhcp lease
[14:16] <DM1> offline: why does it work in Ubuntu though and not Windows?
[14:16] <namo> ActionParsnip-> i rather you not advise that way, its not a windows driver feature i believe, it has to be enabled from bios
[14:16] <unimatrix9> ubuntu is better? :)
[14:16] <Red2> anybody knows how to install beryl in ubuntu studio?
[14:17] <rsk> !beryl | Red2
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> namo: well i'll try find it, i thought it was weird too
[14:17] <Gin> devil, ubuntu does not use inittab
[14:17] <Slart> Red2: beryl?? why not compiz-fusion? it's the latest bling bling
[14:17] <Gin> devil, I think Ubuntu use upstart.
[14:17] <slaw6> How much time is it needed to dist-upgrade, when downloading debs from Internet on a approximately 512kbps?
[14:17] <DM1> unimatrix9: so I need to unplug my network cable, then type ipconfig /release in a cmd prompt?
[14:18] <unimatrix9> DMI : are you working on the trouble pc right now?
[14:18] <Gin> slaw6, probably an hour or so
[14:18] <tdn> How do I delete all files that is in relative paths in a text file? Note that the file names may contain spaces that needs to be escaped.
[14:18] <devil> Gin then how can i change my runlevel in ubuntu 8.04
[14:18] <DM1> unimatrix9: yes
[14:19] <offline> DMI: or u could just right click on network icon in tray, and choose repair
[14:19] <DM1> unimatrix9: I'm chatting through ubuntu now
[14:19] <unimatrix9> DMI  , so you are on ubuntu right now, ok i see
[14:19] <DM1> offline: tried that
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> namo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/156496 - pass me a cookie when you've read it :D
[14:19] <Gin> devil, I BSOD-ed :P
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> DM1: see the link I pasted namo
[14:19] <namo> tdn try cat'ing the file then pipe it to xargs rm
[14:19] <offline> DMI: i mean network icon on windows
[14:19] <DM1> unimatrix9: ubuntu works fine, now Windows has gone whack
[14:19] <Red2> rsk, k thaks ill try
[14:19] <tdn> namo, good idea. I'll try.
[14:19] <DM1> ActionParsnip: why?
[14:19] <kari> ﻿Gin:is transmission bittorent clint?
[14:19] <bsusa> Djones: its telling me i need to pay monry when i send/recieve
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> DM1: check it
[14:20] <Gin> kari, yes, it is
[14:20] <orly_owl> Is there a guide to typing in Burmese in hardy?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> DM1: The Windows driver update had disabled "Wake on LAN after shutdown" and the Linux driver couldn't bring the interface up properly. I've now applied the Windows update, enabled the "Wake on LAN after shutdown" feature in Windows device manager and now the card is up and working normally
[14:20] <tdn> namo, but how do I solve the problem with spaces?
[14:20] <KenBW2> anyone here understand SVG?
[14:20]  * ActionParsnip looks smug
[14:20] <namo> tdn escape with  '\'
[14:20] <unimatrix9> so reboot into windows?
[14:20] <tdn> namo, if I just do: cat delete.txt | xargs rm, it will dele the files "foo" and "bar" if a line in the file is called "foo bar".
[14:20] <unimatrix9> :P
[14:21] <DM1> ActionParsnip: sorry... I'm being a bit dense
[14:21] <tdn> namo, how do I change the text file so that it contains escaped file names?
[14:21] <DM1> ActionParsnip: how do I enable the wake up?
[14:21] <namo> tdn its not that simple like you just pasted, there are some curly {} have to be there somewhere, i dont have the right syntax on top of my head
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> DM1: read the link and jump into windows, you'll need device manager
[14:21] <DM1> Please have patience with me, I know I'm difficult
[14:22] <Red2> Slart, hahah okey thanks for the update... didnt know that... so can i get this from the package manager? i saw one when searching for beryl... it a compiz-fusion code manager or something like that.... but not so sure about it coz of the ode manager
[14:22] <unimatrix9> ActionParsnip : does an normal release not wake up the card?
[14:22] <unimatrix9> or simple replug
[14:22] <DM1> ActionParsnip: but my problem is in Windows, not Ubuntu
[14:22] <tdn> namo, I can do xargs -0
[14:22] <Slart> Red2: yes.. compiz-fusion is in there somewhere.. it's installed by default on hardy distros.. I don't know about ubuntu studio
[14:23] <Red2> ouh saw a bunch when i searched for compiz.... issit recommenden i ger it fro mthe package manager??
[14:23] <mestny> hi
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> unimatrix9: no as windows still has its paws on it
[14:23] <the_darkside_986> In an smb:// Gnome protocol, i'm not sure what to put for the share name... the 2003 server has something like foodomain.lan/Farfaraway/BAR_Users where my user is but Gnome keeps givin an error that it cant mount it.
[14:23] <namo> tdn you have to make sure the contents of the file inserted the escape chars for spaces, maybe used of sed too, its too early for me to think :)
[14:23] <DM1> ActionParsnip?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> DM1: so if you boot from ubuntu to windows its locked?
[14:23] <gnomefreak> can someone let me know if this link opens for anyone on either firefox 2 or firefox 3 in any version of Ubuntu.
[14:23] <gnomefreak> oops
[14:23] <gnomefreak> https://itv.com/register/default.html is the link
[14:23] <isergi> How can I SHOT DOWN?!!
[14:24] <namo> isergi you meant shutdown?
[14:24] <Slart> isergi: sudo shutdown -h now
[14:24] <isergi> ok
[14:24] <Slart> isergi: or click the little green man
[14:24] <DM1> ActionParsnip: my connection works great under Ubuntu... under Windows it's whacked... it connects, but no packets get sent or recieved
[14:24] <isergi> Thanks
[14:24] <Red2> Slart, hmms.. i did have some wabbly effects and all when i enabled from somethink like a control panel.... is that it? cause I dont have the cube desktop..... hmmss
[14:24] <Slart> Red2: that's it
[14:24] <Slart> !ccsm | Red2
[14:24] <DM1> ActionParsnip: it only started yesterday when I installed Ubuntu
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> DM1: its a windows fault then. google for windows socket fixer and run it. should work a treat
[14:24] <bushwakko> Glxgears and dragging windows around and stuff with compiz uses 100% cpu. Added is xorg.log and glxinfo: http://pastebin.ca/1068047
[14:25] <DM1> ActionParsnip: it's obviously related to Ubuntu
[14:25] <Slart> gnomefreak: it isn't looking good so far.. still connecting
[14:25] <gnomefreak> Slart: after 2 or so minutes let me know most likely it wont open
[14:25] <Red2> ouh okey... ill try ccsm
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> DM1: doesnt hurt to run it if you got no issues
[14:25] <gnomefreak> Slart: are you on 2.0 or 3.0 and what Ubuntu?
[14:25] <Musli> Is 512 mb ram enough to run ubuntu? and firefox ofc :D
[14:25] <benny269> Is there any hardware scanner that I can use to find my RAM spec? Can't find the info with Google
[14:25] <Slart> gnomefreak: ff 3.0 on hardy 64bit
[14:25] <Gin> Musli, yes, it is
[14:26] <gnomefreak> Slart: ok thanks if its not open now it wont
[14:26] <Slart> benny269: lshw will print more info than you'll know what to do with =)
[14:26] <slaw6> tdn, is every file in another line? If so, I've got a solution
[14:26] <Musli> one suggested to me that I should get more ram when my firefox lags as hell flash sites
[14:26] <gnomefreak> anyone using 2.0.0.15 can test this link https://itv.com/register/default.html
[14:26] <DM1> ActionParsnip: do you think this will work?
[14:26] <DM1> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/winsock.htm
[14:26] <isergi> Ok. One more question...how can i change settings of the keyboard language changing? No i have Ctrl+Shift...i need Caps Lock only!
[14:27] <Slart> Musli: I don't think that it's a memory issue.. flash is weird sometimes.. unless you're running with 256Mb or something
[14:27] <porkpie> bazhang: I am not sure how to get round this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459/
[14:27] <Red2> so which package should i install? theres quite a few in the package manager
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> DM1: for my money, yes
[14:28] <Gin> Musli, doesn't matter how much ram you got, if a bad coded flash site you're visiting, it will use up the cpu resource and memory. :(
[14:28] <benny269> Slart: Whereabouts do I look? There is too much here :o)
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> DM1: you'll get a red ambulance cross icon wherever you download it. run it and click fix then reboot
[14:28] <bazhang> porkpie, did you sudo apt-get update first?
[14:28] <Slart> benny269: well.. filter it using grep.. or pipe it all to a file and search it
[14:29] <porkpie> bazhang: did that yesterday
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> porkpie: do you have www connection on that system??
[14:29] <porkpie> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> porkpie: can you ping the names of any of the servers in the pastebin you made?
[14:30] <bazhang> that is edgy, correct porkpie ?
[14:30] <benny269> Slart: I'm new at this, I don't know how to do either. Little help?
[14:30] <chad1> morning.  I am having an issue with some items that will not delete from my trash.  The trash directories are empty, yet the bin still shows as full on my desktop.
[14:31] <bazhang> porkpie, is this a production server?
[14:31] <Slart> benny269: sure.. to save the output of a command to a file you put a > at the end.. so something like this    lshw > myhardware.txt
[14:31] <Red2> do i need to manually install 8.04.1 cause I think i have 8.04 in my system or does it update automatically for me?
[14:31] <porkpie> bazhang: yes edgy
[14:31] <tdn> slaw6, one file on each line.
[14:31] <bazhang> Red2, automatic
[14:31] <porkpie> bazhang: yeah prod
[14:31] <Slart> benny269: then you can open that file in gedit or whatever text editor you like
[14:31] <tdn> slaw6, I think this will do: while read line ; do echo "$line" ; done < deletes.txt
[14:31] <porkpie> ActionParsnip: I just tried to ping one of the address's and it failed
[14:31] <Red2> bazhang, okey thanks..
[14:32] <legend2440> Red2: in terminal   lsb_release -a
[14:32] <bazhang> porkpie, because it is eol'd
[14:32] <mestny> есть кто Русские? =)
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> porkpie: can you ping it from another pc?
[14:32] <bazhang> !ru | mestny
[14:32] <rockenrola> porkpie: edgy is not supported anymore
[14:32] <trakinas> anyone with expirience with ssh?
[14:32] <isergi> Хеххеей.
[14:33] <slaw6> I needen something like this and used seq, line, grep... However, this should be better (test it first) cat x | xargs -d '\n' ls -l. But if the file contains an empty line at the bottom, it also tries to operate on file "" (empty name or something). :)
[14:33] <porkpie> ActionParsnip: same problem
[14:33] <mestny> прикольна, они нас или не видят
[14:33] <mestny> или не понимают
[14:33] <slaw6> -d sets delimiter
[14:33] <isergi> Хер знает )))
[14:33] <chad1> ﻿morning.  I am having an issue with some items that will not delete from my trash.  The trash directories are empty, yet the bin still shows as full on my desktop.
[14:33] <mestny> ) осторожней
[14:33] <bazhang> mestny, /j #ubuntu-ru
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> porkpie: maybe you need new repos
[14:34] <porkpie> ActionParsnip: where can I get the list
[14:34] <benny269> Slart: Great, I'll try that! Also, my Firefox keeps crashing. When I open it, restore my tabs, as soon as they all finish loading it just shuts down. Any ideas why?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> porkpie: websearch round the place you'll find some
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> !repos
[14:35] <Slart> benny269: something bad in one of those pages.. could be flash or something else
[14:35] <aoyun08> i don't know
[14:35] <trakinas> benny269: start a new section.
[14:35] <porkpie> ActionParsnip: I am running edgy
[14:35] <trakinas> benny269: like slart said, it could smth in those pages that are locking your browser
[14:35] <benny269> Slart: Happened on 2 pages today.
[14:36] <benny269> trakinas: ok will do
[14:36] <trakinas> benny269: which flash are you using?
[14:36] <chad1> !trash
[14:36] <porkpie> ActionParsnip: I need to upgrade it but cannot apt-get the correct files
[14:36] <benny269> trakinas: not sure, how can I check?
[14:36] <slaw6> let's change enc to 8859-1, no cirillic :) and, unfortunately, also not ąęśćźĄĘŚĆŻŹż
[14:36] <trakinas> benny269: about:plugins
[14:36] <trakinas> in your browser
[14:36] <dxdemetriou> how can I enable the ufw firewall if the "sudo ufw enable" don't work?
[14:36] <trakinas> in the url bar
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> porkpie: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-2.html
[14:37] <chad1> Can anyone help .. this trash issue is really annoying.  There is nothing in ﻿~/.local/share/Trash .. yet the bin still shows files that I cannot delete.
[14:37] <monkeyBox> Does anyone know which package contains apache module auth_ldap?
[14:37] <benny269> trakinas: Shockwave Flash and FutureSplash Player?
[14:37] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, that was when edgy was still supported (that link)
[14:37] <trakinas> benny269: correctly
[14:38] <devil> is there any way to do voice chat in yahoo rooms with ubuntu 8.04
[14:38] <porkpie> ActionParsnip: I don't run a gui
[14:38] <benny269> trakinas: So no problems there?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: bah
[14:38] <slaw6> chad1: click maybe on the trash icon in Thunar,Nautilius or whatever, and click on Trash icon on the panel; in both cases, try empty or similar
[14:38] <slaw6> possibly helps
[14:38] <trakinas> benny269: no no! check its version...=P
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> porkpie: id do a clean install personally then restore data from backup
[14:38] <chad1> slaw6:  no go .. it still shows files inside
[14:38] <compilerwriter> It took more than three weeks before my x-session started acting stupid.  Unlike Windows which happens in about four hours.  It was so nice to simply restart x as opposed to restarting the whole frickin' machine.  What I want to know is what caused it to go buggy though?
[14:39] <jussi01> !find auth_ldap | monkeyBox
[14:39] <jussi01> !find auth_ldap
[14:39] <benny269> trakinas: Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124
[14:39] <trakinas> no one with expirience in ssh?
[14:39] <porkpie> ActionParsnip: I only need to install 2 files ... curl and php-curl :S
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> compilerwriter: you can hit ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X but ram is not freed by running apps
[14:39] <slaw6> chad1: sure in .local/share/Trash/files and .local/share/Trash/info are no elements, even Hidden?
[14:39] <trakinas> benny269: Im not at home, so im not sure if that is the same version that i use, but try updating it.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> porkpie: get .debs for them or source
[14:39] <chad1> slaw6:  yep very sure
[14:40] <bazhang> porkpie, they at packages.ubuntu.com ?
[14:40] <slavi1> who would be responsible in the linux sound system for decoding a dts/dd signal that comes in through pulseaudio?
[14:40] <compilerwriter> ActionParsnip restarting X after closing all of the apps seems to have fixed the issue.
[14:40] <compilerwriter> I tried closing the apps ActionParsnip but that didn
[14:41] <chad1> slaw6:  the files actually seem to be possibly from a network location that no longer exists
[14:41] <compilerwriter> fix the buggyness.
[14:41] <devil> is there any way to do voice chat in yahoo rooms with ubuntu 8.04
[14:41] <benny269> trakinas: how can I try updating just the flash?
[14:41] <benny269> trakinas: sorry, noob
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> compilerwriter: id reboot then but im sure theres a better way
[14:41] <offline> devil: try gyachi/gyache
[14:41] <trakinas> benny269: did you install it by hand?
[14:42] <slaw6> Files in trash? What exact folder?
[14:42] <compilerwriter> Once I restarted x things were going just fine. I am wondering if there is some miniscule memory leak in X that causes an issue.  Like I said it took three weeks.
[14:42] <trakinas> benny269: any way... in command line: apt-get update then apt-get intall flash-player (but not sure about its name)
[14:42] <devil> r u sure gyach works in ubuntu 8.04 .... somebdy told me it dont works in ubuntu
[14:43] <trakinas> in synaptic just search for flash-player and mark your package for update.
[14:43] <porkpie> bazhang: hmm! .   can I use a dapper package ?
[14:43] <chad1> slaw6:  when i open it in gui it shows "svn" in the trash, which i believe was from a network drive that no longer exists.  But if i try to manually kills those files i get "no permission" error
[14:43] <compilerwriter> My next question is whether or not sendmail is active when I am running Kmail?
[14:43] <bazhang> porkpie, sounds very risky
[14:43] <offline> devil: im using gyache now for yahoo chat... though it is not very neat. try to find the newest version on sourceforge.net
[14:43] <chad1> slaw6:  yes these files do not exists in my ﻿~/.local/share/Trash
[14:43] <chad1> yes = yet
[14:44] <porkpie> bazhang: I need to upgrade this server :S
[14:45] <slaw6> I think you should try to check it in the terminal. Does find ~/.local/share/Trash/ shows any files inside?
[14:45] <chad1> slaw6:  nope, first thing i tried
[14:46] <compilerwriter> I was wondering if I could just do a mail soandso@thusandsuch < file1 file2 file3 from the command line without having two mail programs going?
[14:46] <chad1> slaw6:  there are 2 directories there ... files and info .. both are completely empty
[14:46] <legend2440> chad1: do you know the path for the svn file?   could try sudo rm -rf /path/to/svn
[14:47] <chad1> legend2440:  I wish, but i honestly have no idea.  We have about 10 svn servers here and i have no idea which one these came from
[14:47] <chad1> its very odd that my local trash shows the files yet the path is completely empty
[14:47] <legend2440> chad1: right click properties doesn't show path?
[14:47] <compilerwriter> Does one do a 'which' when one is trying to find the path to an executable for which one knows the name of the command?
[14:48] <ks3> compilerwriter: Yes, one does
[14:48] <Delts_> Hi all, just did a fresh install of 8.04.  The desktop effects had been working fine on normal, I switched to extra and when I restarted they had tuurned themselves off and I now can't turn them back on
[14:48] <chad1> legend2440:  location  trash:///     volume:unknown
[14:48] <compilerwriter> Thanks ks3
[14:49]  * compilerwriter opens a flask and pours ks3 some Congac
[14:49] <deej> hello, wonder if anyone can help? I'm installing xubuntu with the alternative CD on an old celeron laptop. Gets to loading syslogd then the screen goes white, alt-ctrl-del wstill work but the cd rom stops. No idea why :(
[14:49] <mystery_> Hello all
[14:49] <_BlackBlood_> hi
[14:49] <keanu> my computer started freezing up (firefox was slow, bottom panel wouldn't respond) and after ctrl+alt+backspace, the top panel disappeared.  Tried a full restart as well, and it still isn't there.  any ideas on how to get it back?
[14:50] <chad1> legend2440:  trash:///media_disk_.Trash-1000_svn
[14:50] <zippo_> hello
[14:50] <_BlackBlood_> kann hier jemand dutsch ???
[14:50] <chad1> that shows if i open it in a new window
[14:50] <DeadPanda> Hey, can someone point me to the source for ume-launcher?  I can't find it linked anywhere on Launchpad
[14:50] <bazhang> porkpie, you still around?
[14:50] <mystery_> Can someone help me figure out why my ff3 habitually stops responding
[14:50] <rockenrola> keanu: did you keep your home dir between installations ?
[14:51] <DeadPanda> And I can't get to a Ubuntu box right now to get the source package :)
[14:51] <porkpie> bazhang: yeah ... scratching my head
[14:51] <legend2440> chad1: is that an external hard drive?
[14:51] <bazhang> porkpie, change edgy to feisty in sources.list then update and dist-upgrade
[14:51] <chad1> legend2440:  the external drive i have is labeled "disk"
[14:51] <porkpie> OK
[14:51] <chad1> so possibly
[14:52] <legend2440> chad1: open external hard drive then ctrl+h and look at .Trash-1000
[14:52] <porkpie> bazhang: do you have a link to the sources.list ?
[14:52] <mystery_> Can someone help me figure out why my programs running on ubuntu stops responding
[14:52]  * unavailable gets off the phone with comcast, hopefully they will actually listen this time and fix my dang problem
[14:52] <bazhang> porkpie, your sources.list silly
[14:53] <slaw6> .Trash-#UID exactly
[14:53] <chad1> legend2440:  already ahead of you there ... there is no .Trash folders
[14:53] <chad1> lol
[14:53] <chad1> see why im confused now
[14:53] <Swish> unavailable, what issue?
[14:53] <unavailable> tv
[14:53] <Swish> ahh
[14:53] <unavailable> craps out randomly
[14:53] <bazhang> unavailable, tv on ubuntu?
[14:53] <porkpie> bazhang: I understand what you re saying but where do I get the different server list from ?
[14:53] <unavailable> it'll be working fine, then nothing then back
[14:54] <unavailable> bazhang offtopic
[14:54] <bazhang> unavailable, you are talking about tvtime?
[14:54] <Gin> what will happen to gnome if you remove the gnome-panel binary file?
[14:54] <bazhang> !info tvtime
[14:54] <unavailable> bazhang nope just offtopic drivel
[14:54] <Elderx> How can i set Pidgin not to show when someone joins/leaves channel ?
[14:54] <bazhang> aha
[14:55] <bazhang> porkpie, this is gnome right?
[14:55] <Swish> tvtime eh.  I wonder if it works with my old old USB tv tuner!
[14:55] <bazhang> arg server
[14:55] <porkpie> bazhang: no .... 6.10-tls
[14:55] <porkpie> bazhang: just a server no gui
[14:55] <chad1> Think i just figured it out ... deleted a blank file from that drive ... then manually killed the trash directory it made .. and it cleared my desktop trash icon.  something must have been stuck somewhere
[14:55] <chad1> thanks
[14:55] <slaw6> No idea. Your trash should be trashed. : - %
[14:55] <bazhang> porkpie, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change edgy to fiesty then save and update
[14:56] <chad1> thanks you 2
[14:56] <porkpie> bazhang: cool .... I understand now
[14:56] <bazhang> porkpie, sorry brain cramp
[14:56] <chad1> :-D
[14:56] <unavailable> can i get tv on my pc without a tv tuner :)
[14:56] <nixnoob> unavailable: internet tv
[14:56] <bazhang> unavailable, streaming yes
[14:56] <unavailable> lol O_o
[14:56] <dans34> via the internet , yes
[14:56] <frostburn> define tv
[14:57] <unavailable> streaming = bandwidth cap
[14:57] <DJones> unavailable: Try looking at something like zattoo
[14:57] <frostburn> satellite, over the air, cable
[14:57] <slaw6> unavailable: plug your monitor into your TV, there will be television on your pc.
[14:57] <Elderx> Any idea how to est Pidgin not to show when someone joins or leaves channel ?
[14:57] <unavailable> rofl
[14:57] <Elderx> get
[14:57] <Musli> getting so tired of this flash thing :S
[14:57] <popey> DJones: zattoo streams too, and via p2p so would eat bandwidth
[14:58] <DJones> unavailable: `I'm in the uk and you can get about 20 channels using it, although its normally just the free to air channels
[14:58] <gnomefreak> Slart: can you please enable -proposed repos and and upgrade (nss should upgrade) and test to see if the link works https://itv.com/register/default.html
[14:58] <deej> never mind, apparently adding vga=771 noapic and nolapic to the boot params works
[14:58] <dxdemetriou> !firewall
[14:58] <dxdemetriou> !ufw
[14:59]  * unavailable thinks about rigging something like cablebox ----  wireless router --- wireless router ---- tv on pc?
[14:59] <Alve2008> Hi all! Please, help me to find info about ftpfs in ubuntu 8.04
[14:59] <nixnoob> unavailable: I doubt it will work with comcast anyway... you will most likely need a cablecard which linux had ZERO support for.
[14:59] <slaw6> I have a little question: Feisty (7.04) is supported until October 2008. So why are there no new software in repos, for example FX3? Is there a similar situation with LTS-es?
[15:00] <unavailable> ive heard of internet over ham radio so why should tv over wifi be hard?
[15:00] <bazhang> slaw6, they will go into backports
[15:00] <trakinas> no one with ssh expirience
[15:00] <trakinas> ?
[15:00] <nixnoob> unavailable: you will need a cablecard to decode the signal as all the HD and movie channels will be encrypted.
[15:00] <bazhang> trakinas, you need to ask an actual question regarding ssh
[15:00] <monostone> help me
[15:00] <nixnoob> unavailable: there is no driver support for cablecards under linux
[15:01] <bazhang> monostone, need a question
[15:01] <monostone> sorry
[15:01] <monostone> i was trying commands i meant "/help"
[15:01] <unavailable> what about converting the signal from the a/v out on the back of the cable box to go into the router?
[15:01] <trakinas> receiving a "could not load host key: " with existing keys. also, deamon says port 22 is being used, when im almost sure it is not
[15:01] <LimCore> hello
[15:01] <pbn> Hi, what is the most elegant manner to have ubuntu automatically update itself ? I am thinking of putting aptitude update && aptitude upgrade in root's crontab. Is that a good idea ?
[15:02] <porkpie> bazhang: I still get the same error :S  File not found
[15:02] <porkpie> Ign http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com fiesty Release.gpg
[15:02] <nixnoob> unavailable: routers do not take DVI/HDMI/ or any A/V inputs as far as I know.
[15:02] <unavailable> then having a program on the pc decode the infostream from the router
[15:02] <LimCore> Im interested in starting on open source project for ubuntu - STFU, a suit of settings to quickly mute system messages (audio and others). Or is there another project like this already in ubuntu?
[15:02] <unavailable> im talking about a device that converts a/v into cat5
[15:03] <Alve2008> People, anybody can help with FTPFS?
[15:03] <Alve2008> :)
[15:03]  * unavailable plays with wires... :)
[15:03] <LimCore> pbn: I did it like that... but try synaptics, there is a setting afair where it auto updates
[15:03] <LimCore> Alve2008: sshfs is cooler
[15:03] <nixnoob> unavailable: never heard of such a thing. besides you would need the cable provider to load the decryption codes onto the cablecard
[15:03] <bazhang> porkpie, what about changing to main servers
[15:04] <nixnoob> unavailable: you can't just decrypt the stream unless you are a serious haxor
[15:04] <unavailable> nixnoob http://www.directproaudio.com/shop/shop.cfm?section=1938
[15:04] <Alve2008> LimCore: I know. But I have only FTP account on hoster's server
[15:04] <porkpie> bazhang: I have done them all in the sources list  .... they all fail
[15:04] <bazhang> porkpie, you are using us servers or where
[15:04] <slaw6> I have feisty-backports universe main multiverse restricted enabled and no such items.
[15:05] <bazhang> slaw6, you talking about a specific package or just generally
[15:05] <porkpie> bazhang: let me pastebin the sources list
[15:05] <slaw6> generally. For example, there is no xmms2 too.
[15:05] <Alve2008> I need to mount remote FTP folder to local folder. Mount says "unknown fs type ftpfs" All packages I find in Synaptyc installed
[15:06] <flea> is there no apache 1.3 anywhere in ubuntu repos? sorry if this is a often revisited question
[15:06] <Alve2008> *all packages needed for ftpfs :) of course
[15:07] <bazhang> flea any reason not to use apache2?
[15:07] <Elderx> Need little help with Pidgin, is it possible to set it not to show when someone joins or leaves channel ?
[15:07] <porkpie> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26470/
[15:07] <DM1> Ubuntu has TOTALLY screwed up my settings in Windows!!
[15:07] <flea> bazhang: yes, many... production web servers need a temp repl.
[15:07] <DM1> What rubbish
[15:07] <trakinas> DM1: how so?
[15:08] <lenix_> hello, how can i skin the toolbar icons while browsing folders ? ( back/forward/reload..etc )
[15:08] <DM1> trakinas: it whacked out my network connections
[15:08] <lenix_> I managed to install themes, but the toolbar didn't get skinned
[15:08] <flea> bazhang: i more than any of the IT dont want to use 1.3 any longer, but its a critical moment and compatibility against 3yr old software is at hand
[15:08] <trakinas> DM1: Im sorry, but that is a little impossible to happen. you'd probably set smth wrongly.
[15:09] <bazhang> porkpie, feisty is misspelled
[15:09] <DM1> trakinas: I didn't dream it up!
[15:09] <DM1> trakinas: the ONLY thing I've done in the last 24 hours is install Ubuntu
[15:09] <trakinas> DM1: telling what is wrong and what is happening might help a little more...
[15:10] <bazhang> DM1, anger wont help here; calm down.
[15:10] <DM1> bazhang: I've already been here, three times today... each time I've tried people's suggestions, nothing works
[15:10] <porkpie> bazhang: :S
[15:11] <porkpie> :(
[15:11] <DM1> So you can understand a little frustration on my part
[15:11] <monostone> DMI: patience is the key
[15:11] <slaw6> These new packages don't exist for Feisty. I l;ooked for it in packages.ubuntu.com and nothing for me. Strange policy.
[15:11] <bazhang> DM1, it works in ubuntu so the nics are fine; whatever the problem is exists in windows.
[15:12] <DM1> bazhang: why only after I install Ubuntu?
[15:12] <DM1> It's the only common source
[15:12] <trakinas> DM1: and network problem is something too generic... Im having troubles with ssh, what could be named a network trouble.
[15:12] <rockenrola> DM1: but exactly is the problem?
[15:13] <icewaterman> jawoll, heise hat heute endlich meinen schlüssel zertifiziert :D
[15:13] <trakinas> DM1: yes. what is happening??
[15:13] <Shoopuf_> the best graphical english thesaurus ever: http://www.visuwords.com/
[15:13] <speed1> how can i check which driver my harddrive is assigned?
[15:13] <ufk_> i have a lenovo R61 laptop and i wanna slap it's monitor left and right in order to move desktops.
[15:13] <porkpie> bazhang: works now  .....  typo
[15:13] <icewaterman> oops wrong channel
[15:13] <lenix_> Is there a way to skin the toolbar that have the back/forward buttons?
[15:13] <bazhang> porkpie, haha
[15:13] <Shoopuf_> oops wrong channel :(
[15:13] <DM1> I am able to connect using my dsl router and a wireless card in Windows
[15:13] <trakinas> speed1: df -a
[15:13] <the-fafa> icewaterman, what key do you need for heise?
[15:14] <DM1> But in both cases, no packets are sent or received
[15:14] <keanu> my computer started freezing up (firefox was slow, bottom panel wouldn't respond) and after ctrl+alt+backspace, the top panel disappeared.  Tried a full restart as well, and it still isn't there.  any ideas on how to get it back?
[15:14] <speed1> trakinas: that just listed my file systems
[15:14] <DM1> It's been working fine for 2 years now... I installed Ubuntu yesterday, and now it's whack
[15:14] <bazhang> DM1, you are on ubuntu or windows now.
[15:14] <PriceChild> DM1: shut down and remove all power, after 30 seconds, start it up again and see how things go.
[15:14] <keanu> oh wait
[15:14]  * keanu was gone, didn't see reply
[15:14] <trakinas> DM1: and how are you accessing internet right now?
[15:15] <icewaterman> the-fafa: wrong channel. heise (ct') signs pgp keys. and they promised to sign all the keys 6-8 weeks after the keysigning event (which in my case was cebit 2008 in march)
[15:15] <keanu> rockenrola, what do you mean between installations?
[15:15] <Luxx16126> Could anyone help me !? I am using Linux ubuntu 7.10  Problem is: I want to install Windows Vista  but i need programs like "WINRAR or DAEMONTOOLS" to open "MDF" fail...help pls...
[15:15] <Nwallins> how can I update resolv.conf (or other config files) from within an interactive bash script?
[15:15] <PriceChild> !piracy | Luxx16126
[15:15] <bazhang> Luxx16126, not here
[15:15] <DM1> I'm accessing the internet via Ubuntu... I've tried repairing the connection, turning on and off, etc etc, nothing helps
[15:15] <the-fafa> icewaterman, i just read news :) cool, probably an intern had some fun with the signing :P
[15:15] <rockenrola> keanu: if you have a partition for your home folde like me, preferences will be kept there. that migth be a cause to the problem
[15:16] <bazhang> DM1, so ubuntu works fine? is that the case?
[15:16] <DM1> bazhang: yes
[15:16] <bazhang> DM1, and windows is messing up?
[15:16] <icewaterman> the-fafa: i thought they had lost my appeal form...
[15:16] <DM1> bazhang: yep
[15:17] <ine> hoi hoi
[15:17] <keanu> rockenrola, this isn't a new install - this is just something that started happening today
[15:17] <bazhang> DM1, have you considered asking in windows channel?
[15:17] <monostone> DMI: what is your setup, a dual boot? how can windows be affected by ubuntu?
[15:17] <unavailable> dm1 ##windows
[15:17] <monostone> not enough info
[15:17] <rockenrola> keanu: sorry misread your post
[15:17] <DM1> bazhang: I tried, they were clinically unhelpful
[15:17] <unavailable> aah
[15:17] <DM1> monostone: I installed via wubi
[15:17] <unavailable> you try a static ip?
[15:18] <bazhang> DM1, oh wubi
[15:18] <unavailable> lol @ oh wubi
[15:18] <monostone> oh, i see
[15:18] <DM1> What about it?
[15:18] <PriceChild> DM1: I've given you one suggestion which you don't seem to want to follow. I think its time to go off to ##windows again or get paid windows support.
[15:18] <evan__> why must i always start compiz manual in kde?
[15:18] <bazhang> DM1, how about removing wubi
[15:19] <trakinas> PriceChild: he said they wasnt helpful...
[15:19] <bazhang> DM1, from the add/remove in windows
[15:19] <trakinas> n00b question: what is wubi?
[15:19] <DM1> PriceChild: I told you already, I tried that
[15:19] <nixnoob> DM1: theres your problem right there, you have windows installed.
[15:19] <PriceChild> trakinas: DM1 This channel is ubuntu support only.
[15:19] <monostone> it is a ubuntu installer
[15:19] <the-fafa> trakinas, isnt this the windows ubuntu installer?
[15:19] <offline> trakinas: wubi lets u install ubuntu from inside windows
[15:19] <flea> < just laughs
[15:19] <unavailable> !wubi | trakinas
[15:19] <monostone> you click click and it installs (theoretically) a dual boot system
[15:19] <PriceChild> !autostart-#kubuntu | evan__
[15:19] <lusepuster> hi folks - I want to print a pgoto from f-spot, but for some reason there is a problem with the native pdf-handling and printer drivers. However, I know that Adobe Reader will work with my printer, so I try the PDF option in the print dialogue. Now the question is: where is the pdf output saved? I cannot find it.
[15:20] <bazhang> DM1, try that then see what the wireless is like (after removing wubi)
[15:20] <Tita1> Hey, when you install applications, through the Synaptic Software Manager, where does it go? How do I access it?
[15:20] <PriceChild> lusepuster: Have you checked your home folder?
[15:20] <bazhang> Tita1, what app
[15:20] <trakinas> Tita1: and what you mean by accessing?
[15:20] <the-fafa> Tita1, just go to Application Add/Remove Software
[15:20] <DM1> bazhang: I'm scared to remove ubuntu
[15:20] <benny269> Where is the best place to shop for pc components in USA? I'm a tourist
[15:20] <flea> DM1: it would be also good practice that if you install something in windows, and it breaks something else, maybe try uninstalling that thing :)
[15:20] <evan__> PriceChild: thanx
[15:20] <Tita1> How to run the software
[15:21] <DM1> bazhang: then I won't be able to come online at all
[15:21] <lusepuster> PriceChild, yeah, but I might have overseen something. Is that the default location?
[15:21] <unavailable> lusepuster i had the same problem
[15:21] <trakinas> DM1: go ahead! TI is bloody sport
[15:21] <hlfshell> TItal - usually it adds it to the proper category in your Applications menu
[15:21] <laeg> i have 5,858 items in my trash that never delete. i don't get any error message and the progress bar completes but i can still see them in it afterwards and they're always there if i try to delete again.
[15:21] <ishbale> frys electronics
[15:21] <PriceChild> Tita1: which application specifically?
[15:21] <PriceChild> lusepuster: 'it depends'
[15:21] <Tita1> Scanmem
[15:21] <hlfshell> unless it is a terminal based program, Tita1
[15:21] <Tita1> And it didnt
[15:21] <monostone> wubi is a mess. DMI: read this -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(Ubuntu)
[15:21] <bazhang> DM1, you know ubuntu works, so get the livecd then boot into it and install next to windows after removing wubi for a true dual boot
[15:21] <DeadPanda> Tita1: You can list the contents of a package with "dpkg -L *package name*" - that'll show you exactly where it all goes
[15:21] <keanu> rockenrola, got it - went into gconf and disabled autohide - apparently it moved itself to the bottom of the screen
[15:21] <lusepuster> PriceChild, ah, I found it - in ~/PDF... Sorry!
[15:21] <PriceChild> lusepuster: it may also be in a folder called PDF
[15:21] <devil> Tita1: it goes in applications
[15:21] <PriceChild> lusepuster: woo well done :)
[15:21] <nixnoob> DM1: just remove windows it will solve all your problems.
[15:21] <hlfshell> Tita1, see if you can run the program via terminal.
[15:21] <PriceChild> nixnoob: not helpful
[15:21] <the-fafa> Tita1, sorry. i misread your question.
[15:21] <trakinas> nixnoob: lol
[15:21] <bazhang> nixnoob, cmon
[15:22] <flea> i dont know whats worse, the fact that people want to install 'ubuntu' into their windows os, or the fact that ubuntu has made this possible
[15:22] <nixnoob> PriceChild: its just a joke, i kno you have no sense of humor but cmon
[15:22] <rockenrola> keanu: :)
[15:22] <Tita1> I tried, its supposed to be in usr-share-doc and I checked and its not there, and no its not in the application menu
[15:22] <PriceChild> Tita1: http://taviso.decsystem.org/scanmem.html
[15:22] <hlfshell> flea - makes the switch easier, and allows a no cost trial. WIBU is huge for ubuntu
[15:22] <Tita1> lol flea
[15:22] <em_> firefox crashing on startup - probably it coes not like a page it is trying to open, I have this happen with quicktime.  disconnect from the network then start firefox then close whatever pages it sutomatically opened.
[15:22] <monostone> i believe it is much simpler to simply have widows live on the one partition and ubuntu on another, ubuntu automagically creates a dual boot system, recognizing your win OS
[15:22] <trakinas> Tita1: they are case sensitive... go to terminal and type: scanm<press-tab>
[15:22] <flea> hlfshell: i hear ya
[15:22] <keanu> rockenrola, guess that's what I get for changing the autohide size to make it fully hidden ;)
[15:23] <Tita1> thanks, the terminal worked
[15:23] <unavailable> f-spot photo manager wont open
[15:23] <devil> how can i stop whois query on my ip ?
[15:23] <bazhang> DM1, once you have a real dual boot installed we can help with that; for windows though you need windows helpers. try removing wubi and see if that has the desired effect first.
[15:23] <trakinas> flea: that some took seriously a person who sarcastic said  "we could able people to install ubuntu inside their windows"
[15:23] <PriceChild> devil: go into #freenode and ask for a cloak
[15:23] <hlfshell> no problem Tita1
[15:23] <PriceChild> devil: you need to register and things first
[15:23] <hlfshell> you can create a shortcut ot it on your startbar if you want Tital, just have it use that command.
[15:23] <flea> trakinas: haha exactly
[15:23] <PriceChild> devil: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[15:24] <DM1> bazhang: you do understand that by removing wubi, I uninstall Ubuntu, right?
[15:24] <monostone> firefox crashing, this has happened to me due to plugins and/or extensions
[15:24] <trakinas> Tita1: i dont know if that is an visual app or terminal app, but they are case sensitive.
[15:24] <unavailable> f-spot photo manager wont open
[15:24] <hlfshell> Also, Tita1, if it's a terminal program it usually does not add to the Applications menu
[15:24] <bazhang> DM1, do it the way I describe and you will enjoy it much more
[15:24] <laeg> i have 5,858 items in my trash that it never empties. i don't get any error message and the progress bar completes but i can still see them in it afterwards and trying to empty the trash agains the progress bar goes through 5,858 items again and restarts the cycle. how can i fix this?
[15:24] <trakinas> so, if it is a graphic app you could type alt+f2 and type its name.
[15:24] <gam3r111> where can i find my home/.themes directory?
[15:24] <Tita1> ok
[15:25] <monostone> DMI: I really recommend uninstalling wubi/ubuntu, and installing ubuntu in a seperate partition
[15:25] <DM1> bazhang: I tried partitioning before... it was a nightmare
[15:25] <ASULutzy> DM1: Wubi isn't exactly an ideal long term solution, dual boot >> Wubi
[15:25] <buliwyf> a 'mount -t smbfs' ... . connects a smbashre with my linux box with iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=cp437 i even see german umlaute but not the Euro symbol
[15:25] <bazhang> DM1, let the guided installer do it for you
[15:25] <laeg> gam3r111: go into your home dir and press cntrl+h
[15:25] <DM1> bazhang: I did
[15:25] <slaw6> gam3r111 in /home/.themes directory.
[15:25] <bazhang> DM1, we will be here to help you out on the way.
[15:25] <DeadPanda> gam3r111: at ~/.themes
[15:25] <DM1> bazhang: no good if I can't connect!
[15:25] <em_> locating a program that you know the command for it.  two ways. if it is is the menu then go to system / preferences / main  menu  -- find the item in the menu and right click and choose properties. the path will usually be part of the command.  other way is to open a terminal -- its in applications / accessories  and then type  locate command.  you will usually get a bunch of responses, you are looking for the one that says something like /use/bin
[15:25] <em_> /command
[15:25] <hateball> buliwyf, try mounting with iocharset=utf8 ?
[15:25] <Kartagis> hoşçakalın / bye
[15:25] <hlfshell> So in case anyone cares - I just tried virtual box last night/this morning. in about 45 minutes worth of work i got xp booting in a window perfectly .... well.... perfect. :-)
[15:26] <bazhang> DM1, but you need to be patient and respectful of the volunteers here.
[15:26] <DeadPanda> you can use 'which *program name' too
[15:26] <laeg> hlfshell: does it support dx10?
[15:26] <unavailable> f-spot photo manager wont open
[15:26] <DM1> bazhang: I get annoyed at clinically unhelpful people
[15:26] <hlfshell> dont think any virtual machine works with that yet....
[15:26] <buliwyf> hateball: itried this already
[15:26] <DM1> And folks who assume I know something
[15:27] <hateball> oh ok buliwyf  :/
[15:27] <Elderx> Can i set these leaves/joins messages off in Pidgin ?
[15:27] <nixnoob> PriceChild: do you remember how you got me permabanned from some channel like a year ago for calling you a "robot"?
[15:27] <hlfshell> then again, considering the RAM/video card memory limits, i dont think you wanna run games on a virtual machine anyway
[15:27] <laeg> Elderx: type /join #pidgin
[15:27] <bazhang> DM1, we are trying to help but you are being very demanding; if that persists then it may become an issue.
[15:27] <laeg> bazhang: i demand a pony
[15:27] <hlfshell> im using windows more for solidworks/CAD/electrical engineering software.... and maybe some Word 2007 compatibilty complaining documents
[15:27] <laeg> i have 5,858 items in my trash that it never empties. i don't get any error message and the progress bar completes but i can still see them in it afterwards and trying to empty the trash agains the progress bar goes through 5,858 items again and restarts the cycle. how can i fix this?
[15:27] <DM1> bazhang: I apologize
[15:27] <DM1> bazhang: I'm just frustrated
[15:27] <slaw6> If using Xubuntu, there is [menu]->accessories (or similar English word)->application finder (or similar)
[15:28] <flea> everyone, the best way to get dm1 to listen is to just send him a virus. ... then he'll really want linux
[15:28] <laeg> hlfshell: wine can do some of that
[15:28] <legend2440> laeg: do you have external hard drive?
[15:28] <laeg> legend2440: nope
[15:28] <monostone> DMI: Do you have only 1 partition available, used by your win OS?
[15:28] <bazhang> DM1, we have outlined a possible solution for you; what you choose to do is your decision.
[15:28] <unavailable> a ha
[15:28] <monostone> repartitioning can be scary for a novice
[15:28] <hlfshell> Some of it, yes. but iread through the office 2007 howto laeg - seems more trouble than its worth. espeecially since i have to do the virtual pc anyway for programs like solidworks
[15:28] <bazhang> flea stop
[15:29] <unavailable> fixed f-spot photo manager by removing the /home/user/.gnome2/f-spot/photos.db   file
[15:29] <laeg> hlfshell: kk
[15:29] <ASULutzy> laeg: I would just rm -rf /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash/ ;)
[15:30] <laeg> ASULutzy: k i'll try that now
[15:30] <hlfshell> laeg, was that more of a question cause you plan on running games or are you just curious?
[15:30] <flea> i dont ever speak on here, yea i shouldnt have said that but props to all you for having such patience
[15:30] <hlfshell> laeg: cause steam seems to work fine under wine
[15:30] <laeg> hlfshell: i do run games but under wine
[15:30] <flea> i popped a debian 1.3 disc in a k5 166 back in 97 and never looked back
[15:31] <offline> unavailable: what makes removing photo.db get f-spot right back to working?
[15:31] <unavailable> dunno but it worked
[15:31] <KenBW2> after I wake my laptop from Suspend, my SD Card /dev/sdb becomes /dev/sdc. Anyone know why?
[15:31] <laeg> ASULutzy: ty for the 315mbs of extra diskspace :)
[15:31] <unavailable> offline http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507063
[15:31] <em_> how to edit resolv.conf from inside of a program/script -- it gets complicated real fast.  if you simply want to replace it with something else you can create the other file with what you want and then cp it over resolv.conf  if you really really want to edit then take a look at "sed"  but be prepared to learn a huge amount.
[15:31] <laeg> ASULutzy: i had to sudo it, does that mean there were some permission issues?
[15:32] <offline> unavailable: thanks for that
[15:32] <trakinas> how do I remove a ssh key that sshd says it is unsafe?
[15:32] <lenix_> I have a folder inside my trash that's not getting deleted, any idea?
[15:32] <KenBW2> lenix_: it might be owned by root
[15:32] <flea> trakinas:  .ssh/known_hosts
[15:33] <trakinas> lenix_: checking if you have the permissions to remove it?
[15:33] <lenix_> KenBW2, i'm the owner
[15:33] <trakinas> flea: thanks, lemme try
[15:33] <lenix_> trakinas,  yes
[15:33] <lenix_> my username is the one in permissions tba
[15:33] <lenix_> tab*
[15:33] <KenBW2> lenix_: sudo rm -rf /home/<username>/.Trash (watch me get flamed for suggesting rm -rf)
[15:34] <lenix_> KenBW2, did it
[15:34] <swirv> Ok..longtime user of ubuntu here..but I can't seem to make Audacity work.  Anyone have a sugestion?  I think it has to do with pulseaudio.
[15:34] <KenBW2> is it gone?
[15:34] <ASULutzy> laeg, lenix_: Yea, you shouldn't have to use sudo to delete something that's in your home folder, (usually) but it can happen
[15:34] <flea> lol KenBW2
[15:34] <lenix_> KenBW2, the folder is still there
[15:34] <speed1> if i installed ubuntu/hardy with my hd/bios set to IDE mode, will ubuntu still boot if i switch that to AHCI? (i know you can't switch for windows)
[15:34] <KenBW2> lenix_: the folder you want rid of?
[15:35] <lenix_> the folder inside my trash can
[15:35] <lenix_> it's a folder, not a file
[15:35] <KenBW2> ASULutzy: it would get rid of the issue if root owned the folder
[15:35] <DeadPanda> speed1: with some tweaking, yes (grub, fstab etc.)
[15:35] <ASULutzy> KenBW2: You can use $USER to represent username ;) also the path you gave is wrong, it's /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash
[15:35] <KenBW2> sorry, im still thinking in terms of Gutsy
[15:35] <codecowboy> hi. my wireless interface has disappeared from iwconfig. How can I get it back?
[15:36] <speed1> DeadPanda: what kind of tweaking? i use UUIDs in both of those files -- would that prevent the need to tweak?
[15:36] <unavailable> lenix_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=509596
[15:36] <laeg> ASULutzy: permission bandits did it! :P anyway good work ty ty
[15:36] <KenBW2> lenix_: as ASULutzy says, it's now /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash
[15:36] <bartmon> Hey guys. I've just added a new HDD and partitioned it. What option do i have to put in my fstab so non-priviledged users can have rw access to the new partition?
[15:36] <sp4rd4> lo evrybody!
[15:36] <em_> Musli - yes 512 megs should be barely enough - make sure you have swap space and patience
[15:36] <DM1> bazhang: what if uninstalling wubi doesn't work?
[15:36] <DeadPanda> speed1: You might get away with GRUB, if it's the only drive in the system - I've never experimented with UUID's much, so YMMV
[15:36] <KenBW2> lenix_: rm -rf /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash
[15:37] <bazhang> DM1, you know that ubuntu works right?
[15:37] <lenix_> ya
[15:37] <lenix_> worked
[15:37] <DeadPanda> speed1: keep a Live CD handy in case you need to poke around, though :)
[15:37] <lenix_> thanks <3
[15:37] <KenBW2> lenix_: did it work?
[15:37] <lenix_> KenBW2,  yep
[15:37] <speed1> speed1: i guess my question was more....are the only changes that might be necessary are drive paths /dev/Xda ..or some other settings?
[15:37] <sp4rd4> any channel on gnome customization?
[15:37] <KenBW2> :)
[15:37] <DM1> bazhang: yes
[15:37] <speed1> DeadPanda: ﻿i guess my question was more....are the only changes that might be necessary are drive paths /dev/Xda ..or some other settings?
[15:37] <bazhang> DM1, so a true dual boot will work as well most likely
[15:37] <unavailable> dmi you can try uninstalling the card in windows, then reinstalling it...
[15:38] <lenix_> side question, is there a way to make nautilus toolbar icons smaller ?
[15:38] <lenix_> i remember reading once its impossible
[15:38] <DM1> unavailable: I doubt it's that... I have a seperate wireless connection that uses a pci modem
[15:38] <DM1> unavailable: it doesn't work either
[15:38] <unavailable> hmm
[15:39] <bazhang> DM1, there are no guarantees; we are proposing possible solutions.
[15:39] <nixnoob> DM1: what is the actual problem?
[15:39] <codecowboy> my ra0 interface has disappeared. how
[15:40] <DeadPanda> speed1: they're the only settings I think'll matter - everything else should be fine
[15:40] <codecowboy> can i get it back?
[15:40] <speed1> DeadPanda: k, thanks
[15:40] <KenBW2> Anyone know why System Monitor is reporting that I have 409MiB memory + 594MiB Swap in use, but Processes/Memory doesn't add up to that?
[15:40] <nixnoob> codecowboy: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:40] <Dark_Shadow> hi
[15:40] <DeadPanda> KenBW2: Cache
[15:40] <codecowboy> nixnoob, hardy 8.04
[15:40] <Dark_Shadow> i tried to use many translator
[15:40] <nixnoob> codecowboy: clean install?
[15:40] <KenBW2> DeadPanda: What about Cache?
[15:40] <Dark_Shadow> i tried to use many translators but no one works
[15:40] <Musli> I have major problems with getting flash work correct in firefoxc
[15:40] <DeadPanda> KenBW2: That'll be the remainder of the RAM in use, disk cache :)
[15:41] <DM1> nixnoob: after installing Ubuntu, my network connections in Windows don't work
[15:41] <codecowboy> nixnoob, relatively yes
[15:41] <unavailable> dm1 so you can see the card(s) in windows, do they say not connected?  you said youve tried repairing it, how about setting static ip with correct dns
[15:41] <shubbar> my bank does not accept loging in from Firefox/Ubuntu but it works from Fireforx/Windows
[15:41] <DM1> nixnoob: I was thinking Ubuntu obviously changed something
[15:41] <KenBW2> DeadPanda: No, the red line is pretty high on the chart
[15:41] <Dark_Shadow> i want to traduct  from english to frech
[15:41] <nixnoob> DM1: has nothing at all to do with the ubuntu installation. they are on seperate partitions unless you used wubi.
[15:41] <KenBW2> DeadPanda: and the pie chart is pretty full
[15:41] <DM1> unavailable: they connect, just no packets come through
[15:41] <DM1> nixnoob: I did use wubi!
[15:41] <shubbar> I don't know why it is different; they're both Firefox 3.0
[15:41] <unavailable> can you ping?
[15:41] <bazhang> Dark_Shadow, see babelfish yahoo
[15:42] <unavailable> do you have a router?
[15:42] <nixnoob> codecowboy: i dont know why you have an ra0 interface at all that went away in feisty you have an rt2x00 wifi card huh?
[15:42] <DM1> unavailable: yes and yes
[15:42] <unavailable> dm1 can you ping, do you have a router
[15:42] <unavailable> ok
[15:42] <unavailable> so you can ping, but no packets ?
[15:42] <nixnoob> DM1: sorry then I have never used wubi so I don't know what to tell you, the ubuntu install may have changed some things in order to gain internet access and broke your connection in the process.
[15:42] <codecowboy> nixnoob, rt2870 . drivers from the ralink site. it was working this morning. i think i may have borked it via some vmware settings
[15:43] <nospeone> hi
[15:43] <sipior> shubbar: your bank is probably refusing you based upon the user-agent string, which reports as Firefox/Linux. you can change that string and get around your bank's stupidity
[15:43] <trakinas> flea: how do I check if a port is being used?
[15:43] <DM1> nixnoob: that was exactly my thoughts
[15:43] <unavailable> what happens when you try to hit the router in windows?
[15:43] <codecowboy> nixnoob, hardy does not autodetect the wireless interface. i had a hell of a time getting it working in the first place
[15:43] <nixnoob> codecowboy: it wasn't supported by the stock drivers in Hardy? you had to install the serialmonkey drivers?
[15:43] <encompass> I seem to have lots some of my keys in X but can still use them at tty any ideas?
[15:43] <DM1> hit?
[15:43] <P4N1CO> trakinas you may check with nmap or using a sniffer
[15:43] <codecowboy> nixnoob, i installed ralink official drivers. dont know about serialmonkey
[15:43] <unavailable> ping, go to with browser, slam with a hammer whatever
[15:43] <rockenrola> shubbar: what is the error. and are your FF profiles the same?
[15:44] <codecowboy> nixnoob, and no, not supported out of the box
[15:44] <nixnoob> codecowboy: wow i have been out of the loop for a while they actually released official drivers?
[15:44] <shubbar> sipior: how can i change that user-agent string?
[15:44]  * unavailable prefers the hammer
[15:44] <maxb> Does anyone know why no jigdo download option is offered for Ubuntu DVD ?
[15:44] <nixnoob> codecowboy: why dont you google for serialmonkey and see if they have a driver for your wifi card.
[15:44] <codecowboy> http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[15:45] <sipior> shubbar: point your browser to "about:config", then search for useragent (all one word)
[15:45] <alf> hi
[15:45] <trakinas> shubbar: probably just like my bank mac os and linux are not "homologed systems"
[15:45] <alf> night all
[15:45] <codecowboy> nixnoob, i dont think the driver is the issue. it would seem that usb changes have caused the problem
[15:45] <em_> if firefox is crashing due to plugins then there is a way to start it in safe mode -- you could also delete your firefox profile.  I suggest you try the firefox forum for help with this.
[15:45] <nixnoob> codecowboy: you installed a VM and it broke yes?
[15:45] <bazhang> DM1, please try the wubi removal followed by the ubuntu dual boot install; best to back up files before hand though.
[15:45] <codecowboy> nixnoob, as it was working before i tried to get usb working in vmware and have changed everything back
[15:45] <alf> hi bro
[15:45] <codecowboy> nixnoob, correct
[15:45] <alf> did anyone using acer aspire here???
[15:45] <nixnoob> codecowboy: the wifi card is usb based?
[15:45] <alf> please reply
[15:46] <shubbar> rockenrola: its "To access MYBANK, please use:    * Internet Explorer version 5.0 or above; or Netscape Communicator version 4.72 or above (version 6.x currently not supported)"  its a stupid message
[15:46] <PriceChild> alf: what's your problem?
[15:46] <unavailable> dm1 and run a DEFRAG IN WINDOWS before installing dual boot if you will be modding your partitions.
[15:46] <jabba> is it possible to restore my passwords out of a backup of my home-folder? importing files with the key-manager...?
[15:46] <Musli> My firefox does not really crash but it lags on flash sites
[15:46] <plutarcus> hi all
[15:46] <codecowboy> nixnoob, well this is where my knowledge runs out. it is on the motherboard but seems to have something to do with usb
[15:46] <unavailable> dm1 you may run into the problem of grub messing up your boot into windows
[15:46] <codecowboy> nixnoob, it isnt a usb dongle or anything like that.
[15:46] <rockenrola> shubbar: change the user agent as someone suggested
[15:47] <DM1> bazhang: why must I reinstall ubuntu?
[15:47] <plutarcus> how can i copy a protected dvd-video in a normal 4.7 gb blank dvd? sorry for my english =)
[15:47] <kinglet> hey guys! how I can upgrade Perl , I am using ubuntu 7.10
[15:47] <bazhang> DM1, if you want help here.
[15:47] <em_> one way to get rid of your trash...   after you locate the folder in a terminal window, you can use the "rm" command but BE CAREFUL you can destroy your whole system doing this.  read the "man" first.
[15:47] <nixnoob> codecowboy: is it listed when you do lsusb in terminal?
[15:47] <jabba> plutarcus: try dvdbackup and k9copy
[15:47] <lenix_> i used to use a program on my previous ubuntu installation, it used to sniff pictures being surfed on lan machines
[15:47] <lenix_> anybody remember the name? :P
[15:47] <jabba> btw.. that may be illegal
[15:47] <nixnoob> codecowboy: or is it listed when you do lspci?
[15:47] <sipior> shubbar: there's a firefox add-on as well, which would allow you to change the string on-the-fly
[15:47] <PriceChild> !piracy | lenix_
[15:48] <codecowboy> nixnoob, no i think it used to be listed in lsusb but it is no longer there
[15:48] <lenix_> PriceChild, it has nothing to do with piracy..
[15:48] <dxdemetriou> UFW just don't start on boot. it says on boot that is ok, but it is disabled. I searched to find the reason without any luck. any idea?
[15:48] <kinglet> hey guys! how I can upgrade Perl , I am using ubuntu 7.10
[15:48] <PriceChild> lenix_: read the next few words
[15:48] <DM1> bazhang: I think you are drawing at straws
[15:48] <sipior> lenix_: you're referring to Electric Sheep, i believe
[15:48] <nixnoob> yea then its usb based and you borked it
[15:48] <your-dad> im using ubuntu 7 on a VM and i cant connect to a network, its VMware 6 ACE version, and the VM is connecting to the network via NAT
[15:48] <ASULutzy> PriceChild: I'm not sure that's necessarily a piracy issue? If I was a parent I would want to know if my children are looking at inappropriate images or something
[15:48] <sipior> lenix_: the screen saver, correct?
[15:48] <Luchten> I Need help!!
[15:48] <nixnoob> codecowboy: have you tried reinstalling the driver?
[15:48] <PriceChild> ASULutzy: yup, that's not why I think he's asking for it
[15:48] <trakinas> lenix_: it suits into *questionably legal practices*
[15:48] <codecowboy> nixnoob, yup. twice
[15:49] <lenix_> sipior, it's not a screensaver
[15:49] <kinglet> hey guys! how I can upgrade Perl , I am using ubuntu 7.10
[15:49] <em_> the problem with deleting your trash could be a permissions issue - you may have to do a "sudo rm"  first
[15:49] <ASULutzy> PriceChild: Fair enough, I guess it's all about judgement
[15:49] <unavailable> dm1 if you do run into the "i cant boot windows with grub"  problem  get out yer windows cd and go into recovery console and do fixmbr fixboot and check this out http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/111210-dual-boot-ubuntu-xp-using-ntldr.html
[15:49] <rockenrola> Luchten: state your business
[15:49] <trakinas> so, nmap says port 22 is closed and being used by ssh... need help!
[15:49] <nixnoob> i wonder which log file would have information regarding a broken module?
[15:50] <your-dad> im using ubuntu 7 on a VM and i cant connect to a network, its VMware 6 ACE version, and the VM is connecting to the network via NAT
[15:50] <lenix_> trakinas, educational purposes
[15:50] <speed1> nixnoob: dmesg i believe
[15:50] <legend2440> dxdemetriou:  according to  man ufw    "enable reloads firewall and enables firewall on boot"
[15:50] <your-dad> how can i connect to the internet?
[15:50] <trakinas> lenix_: then google
[15:50] <shubbar> sipior: about: config is not searchable wihch makes it harder to find ... i ll try the add-on
[15:50] <nixnoob> speed1: thank you
[15:50] <olegb> lenix_: could it de webspy (pasrt of dsniff package) ?
[15:50] <compilerwriter> Does kubuntu enable sendmail by default
[15:50] <kinglet> hey guys! how I can upgrade Perl , I am using ubuntu 7.10
[15:50] <olegb> s/de/be
[15:50] <compilerwriter> !sendmail > compilerwriter
[15:50] <em_> if its your lan and you are the system admin then it is legal for you to monitor your employees/children as long as they have been notified that such monitoring might occur
[15:50] <speed1> nixnoob: if you know what module you want to look for errors/info about:    dmesg | grep TERMTOSEARCHFOR
[15:50] <sipior> shubbar: yes it is. there should be a search filter at the top
[15:51] <codecowboy> nixnoob, any other ideas?
[15:51] <lenix_> olegb, no, it's a program that you run from terminal, black screen, sits there, and starts grabbing pictures surfed on ur other machine over lan
[15:51] <trakinas> kinglet: on the terminal: apt-get update && apt-get install perl
[15:51] <nixnoob> codecowboy: lets take speed1's advice, do you kno the exact name of the driver module?
[15:51] <dxdemetriou> legend2440, is that I said. I did it, it says on boot that it's enable, but after I check it it says that is disabled
[15:51] <your-dad> em_: i am the admin on the rea; mathine i'm running, and there aren't restrictions on the internet
[15:51] <codecowboy> nixnoob, rt2870sta.ko
[15:52] <kinglet> trakinas: ty :X this command is for upgrading my perl to latest?
[15:52] <codecowboy> nixnoob, i missed the advice?
[15:52] <compilerwriter> Does Ubuntu enable sendmail by default
[15:52] <codecowboy> nixnoob, he provbably means dmesg
[15:52] <nixnoob> codecowboy: perfect, do dmesg | grep rt2870 in console and look through the output for any error messages.
[15:52] <em_> to remove a folder that is empty you can do "rmdir"
[15:52] <unavailable> trakinas lenix_ i would actually consider that conversation "network security" related because certian jpeg's can contain horrible virus's that can totally screw a windows machine
[15:52] <yell0w> codecowboy: postfix
[15:52] <trakinas> kinglet: latest avaible. if any
[15:52] <dxdemetriou> where is the rc script for ufw and how can I check it that works? it's not on the services
[15:52] <your-dad> im using ubuntu 7 on a VM and i cant connect to a network, its VMware 6 ACE version, and the VM is connecting to the network via NAT
[15:52] <your-dad> how can i connect to the internet?
[15:52] <trakinas> unavailable: interesting
[15:52] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: ufw just modifies iptables
[15:53] <lenix_> unavailable,  a jpeg can contain a virus?
[15:53] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: which is part of the kernel
[15:53] <unavailable> yep
[15:53] <codecowboy> yell0w, ?
[15:53] <kinglet> trakinas: tnQ so much
[15:53] <trakinas> your-dad: cannot help. never used it on a VM. sorry!
[15:53] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: sudo iptables -L, to check there are rules there
[15:53] <lenix_> unavailable, doubt it :P
[15:53] <kinglet> trakinas: I will try it
[15:53] <nixnoob> lenix_: it can, you can batch a virus with any other file
[15:53] <unavailable> http://www.secureworks.com/research/threats/jpegvirus/
[15:53] <your-dad> trakinas: i have before, on virtualbox and VMware server, now is the only time im having a problem
[15:53] <codecowboy> nixnoob, it just says 'usbcore: registered new interface driver rt2870'. no errors
[15:53] <kinglet> trakinas: I want to upgrade for installin Pidgin! cuz when I want to install it I got this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26447/
[15:54] <your-dad> my host PC is windows
[15:54] <lenix_> nixnoob, ofcourse but it won't have a .jpg extension
[15:54] <legend2440> dxdemetriou: in terminal   cat /etc/ufw/ufw.conf  is Enabled   set to yes?
[15:54] <codecowboy> yell0w, i dont understand 'postfix'
[15:54] <lenix_> nixnoob, more like you can batch a file with any virus
[15:54] <nixnoob> lenix_: yes it will ever used netbus?
[15:54] <nixnoob> codecowboy: what interfaces are listed in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:54] <dxdemetriou> legend2440, yes
[15:55] <yell0w> codecowboy: postfix is the default MTA for ubuntu
[15:55] <em_> if you are behind a NAT you wont be able to see anything on the internet...  and usually even if not at you site then at your upstream provider you will be switched or otherwise limited from seeing traffic.  you wont be able to see anything that does not originate from your local network.
[15:55] <codecowboy> eth0, lo and ra0.
[15:55] <kinglet> trakinas: a lot of failed errors! and at last this E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[15:55] <dxdemetriou> PriceChild, there isn't any rule until I do "ufw enable" on each boot
[15:55] <nixnoob> codecowboy: and ra0 is not commented out?
[15:55] <lenix_> nixnoob, you can't end up a virus in a .jpg extension and make it executable
[15:55] <lenix_> it should be .exe
[15:55] <codecowboy> yell0w, why is a mail transfer agent going to help me with my wirelss device?
[15:55] <trakinas> kinglet: you need to upgrade: perl, libcairo2, libglib2, libpango
[15:56] <nixnoob> lenix_: yes you can i've seen it before with my own eyes
[15:56] <codecowboy> nixnoob, nope
[15:56] <kinglet> trakinas: mate how can I do it?
[15:56] <unavailable> lenix
[15:56] <trakinas> kinglet: and you need to install: libpurple and liblaunchpad-integration
[15:56] <nixnoob> codecowboy: what does it says if you do sudo ifup ra0
[15:56] <yell0w> codecowboy: oh nvm wrong nick
[15:56] <unavailable> lenix_ all you have to do is make it run inside the renderer for the jpeg
[15:56] <kinglet> trakinas: Can u tell me step by step?
[15:56] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: sudo nano /etc/ufw/ufw.conf
[15:56] <lenix_> nixnoob, maybe you saw the file with hidden extensions , file.jpg.exe
[15:56] <ASULutzy> lenix_: The link that was given earlier explains in detail how the jpeg virus worked.
[15:56] <kinglet> trakinas: plz :(
[15:56] <codecowboy> yell0w, np
[15:56] <yell0w> codecowboy: sorry for the confuzion
[15:56] <unavailable> lenix_ that is an executable
[15:56] <dxdemetriou> I think about adding the ufw to start from rc, but.. why it say on boot messages that is enable but "ufw status" says that's not?
[15:56] <trakinas> kinglet: have you done an apt-get update?
[15:56] <lenix_> unavailable, that's what im saying
[15:56] <ASULutzy> lenix_: With a .jpeg extension, not .jpeg.exe
[15:56] <kinglet> trakinas: yes I did it!
[15:57] <codecowboy> nixnoob, ignoring unknown interface ra0
[15:57] <nixnoob> lenix_: only about 3 people are telling you that you are wrong and you persist, our conversation is over.
[15:57] <em_> and yes, there are privacy issues, it is not legal to randomly monitor people that you have no relationship with
[15:57] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: that file has an option you can change (pretty obvious what) ctrl+x then y to save
[15:57] <lenix_> nixnoob, alright chill
[15:57] <trakinas> kinglet: so you will need to add others sources to your source.file
[15:57] <lenix_> nixnoob, reading that link atm
[15:57] <nixnoob> codecowboy: ignoring unknown interface??? wow I've never seen that before.
[15:57] <kinglet> trakinas: can u tell me how?!
[15:57] <dxdemetriou> PriceChild, it is already "ENABLED=yes"
[15:58] <codecowboy> nixnoob, heh. ive seen it a lot
[15:58] <shubbar> sipior: thanks, it worked with the user agent switcher add-on
[15:58] <dxdemetriou> I forgot to say but I'm using Hardy upgraded from Gutsy
[15:58] <cl0s> how do i search for and remove gconf modified keys set from an ebox install?
[15:58] <nixnoob> codecowboy: try doing a manual networking restart sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:58] <cl0s> on ubuntu server 8.04..
[15:59] <sipior> shubbar: glad you got it working. might want to complain to your bank anyway :)
[15:59] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: odd... /etx/init.d/ufw should check for it
[15:59] <codecowboy> nixnoob, tried that. no dice :-( looking like a reinstall to me :-(
[16:00] <trakinas> kinglet: which ubuntu version are you using?
[16:00] <poosenki> is there a hotkey for cycling through documents in kate?
[16:00] <kinglet> trakinas: I am using 7.10
[16:00] <poosenki> it looked like it's supposed to be ctrl+,/ctrl+. or ctrl+[/ctrl+] but those don't seem to do anything
[16:01] <dxdemetriou> ufw is module or service?
[16:01] <kinglet> trakinas: If this problem will be solved then I can install pidgin 2.3.4
[16:01] <trakinas> kinglet:  i dont think you will be able to install it on a easy way in 7.10
[16:01] <kinglet> trakinas: did u read my error about pidign install packages?
[16:01] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: do you have a /etc/init.d/ufw? Could you ls -l /etx/init.d/ufw please?
[16:02] <kinglet> trakinas: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26447/ I mean this
[16:02] <trakinas> kinglet: you could get all your dependeces like you did with pidgin (downloading the deb and using dpkg -i). but that will not be a pleasable trip
[16:02] <em_> to get vmware networking to work you have to change the vmware interface type to "e1000"  by editing the vmware config file.  there are details about this on the gentoo forum and other places try googleing for "vmware e1000 network"
[16:02] <jill> why i always see error message of ISD-Server on my system starts? how can i fix it?
[16:02] <nixnoob> codecowboy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/216084
[16:03] <trakinas> kinglet: lunch time. i have to go
[16:03] <trakinas> cheers
[16:03] <dxdemetriou> PriceChild, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6358 2008-04-08 00:19 /etc/init.d/ufw
[16:03] <kinglet> trakinas: ok! but can u plz just tell me how i can install all depens?
[16:03] <kinglet> trakinas: and then go :( plz
[16:04] <codecowboy> nixnoob, you referring to something specific in there?
[16:04] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: and the same for the other file?
[16:04] <codecowboy> nixnoob, i already compiled the driver and had it working before i broke something
[16:04] <IdleOne> kinglet,  you will need to download and compile all the depends for pidgin. you are better off upgrading the OS.
[16:04] <trakinas> kinglet: just get the needed packs, i think that using apt get won help since i could found it in packages.ubuntu.com
[16:04] <trakinas> IdleOne: or getting the debs if he is lucky
[16:04] <IdleOne> trakinas, there are no debs for the versions he needs
[16:05] <dxdemetriou> PriceChild, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 67 2008-07-10 14:32 /etc/ufw/ufw.conf
[16:05] <tsrk> Hi, I'm having a really strange problem, here's what ls says: d?????????  ? ?    ?       ?                ? .gvfs    (That's from root) What's that mean?
[16:05] <trakinas> IdleOne: so, good luck to him!
[16:05] <trakinas> :P
[16:05] <trakinas> cheers
[16:05] <codecowboy> nixnoob, i didnt update my kernel, btw
[16:05] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: well if you're sure its enabled in that file, and it still doesn't work when you reboot then i have no idea
[16:05] <Slart> tsrk: looks  like a gnome virtual file system thingy
[16:05] <nixnoob> codecowboy: i dunno im out of ideas, i dont kno what you coul dhave broken but you definately broke something this goes past my knowledge
[16:05] <boolean> morning
[16:05] <nixnoob> codecowboy: what do you mean you didnt update? which kernel do you use?
[16:05] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: I'll do a bit of googling
[16:05] <IdleOne> kinglet, what you are trying to do would be difficult for someone who has many years of linux experience. just upgrade to 8.04
[16:06] <boolean> samba question: where does the samba password file ( either smbpassd or tdbsecrets? ) hide ?
[16:06] <tsrk> Slart, what's that?
[16:06] <tsrk> Do I need it?
[16:06] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: seems you're not the only one with this issue
[16:06] <codecowboy> nixnoob, never mind. there was a bit in the link about someone updating their kernel which broke things. just wanted to point out that wasnt the case for me. thanks for trying to help!
[16:06] <Slart> tsrk: it's a "good thing"... and I think you want it.. you can google for it if you want more info
[16:07] <Slart> tsrk: is that folder really a problem?
[16:07] <nixnoob> codecowboy: no no tell me what kernel you have seriously
[16:07] <dxdemetriou> PriceChild, I don't remember exactly, but I think that on clean install of ubuntu hardy it works
[16:07] <kinglet> IdleOne: My problem is: I dont know what is the packages I need to install!
[16:07] <tsrk> I googled for gvfs but nothing came up, and It's not really a problem except that I'm trying to back up and it won't let me copy it :P
[16:07] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: yep i'm seeing that
[16:07] <kinglet> IdleOne: can u help me?
[16:07] <codecowboy> nixnoob, 2.6.24-16 generic
[16:08] <IdleOne> kinglet package for what?
[16:08] <tsrk> What's gnome virtual file system anyway?
[16:08] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: have you blacklisted ipv6?
[16:08] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: nevermind, that should be fixed now
[16:08] <nixnoob> codecowboy: why dont you update? any kernel modules that you borked will be replaced with new versions then you can recompile and reinstall the wifi and it may actually work....
[16:08] <jc> update history? how can I see what was updated last via program updates?
[16:08] <Slart> tsrk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnomeVFS
[16:08] <DM1> nixnoob?
[16:09] <nixnoob> DM1: what?
[16:09] <S4nD3r> does anybody knows about a bug in compiz (Ubuntu 8)?? My one have freeze, I uninstall it, then, stopped to freeze.
[16:09] <DM1> any other suggestions?
[16:09] <dxdemetriou> PriceChild, do you have any idea what else to search? I searched for iptables, init.d, rc scripts, he new dkmr for kernel..
[16:09] <poosenki> is there a hotkey for cycling through documents in kate?
[16:09] <poosenki> it looked like it's supposed to be ctrl+,/ctrl+. or ctrl+[/ctrl+] but those don't seem to do anything
[16:09] <alf01> anybody
[16:09] <tsrk> Ok, thanks
[16:09] <nixnoob> DM1: i didnt have any suggestions in the first place...
[16:09] <Slart> tsrk: seems I was wrong.. gvfs is the successor to gnome-vfs .. but the info is valid never the less
[16:09] <tvrtko> what is the glib type for unsigned long long?
[16:09] <PriceChild> dxdemetriou: i'm not sure sorry :/
[16:09] <kinglet> IdleOne: the problem for install pidgin is perl version, and I want to upgrade my perl! and I don know how
[16:09] <alf01> how to setup huawei e220 on ubuntu hardy heron??
[16:10] <nixnoob> DM1: you said your wubi install of ubuntu has internet but the host windoze doesnt right?
[16:10] <DM1> Yes
[16:10] <nixnoob> DM1: is internet connection sharing enabled?
[16:10] <aslam_> quick question ----> does having extra plugins affect the working ones?
[16:11] <DM1> nothing has changed, nixnoob
[16:11] <nixnoob> DM1: is it enabled or not?
[16:11] <amatson97> does any one here have a logitech pro9000 that they have got to work fully with HH 8.04
[16:11] <KirO> Hi! :)
[16:11] <rootedit> yesterdays upgrade broke my xserver (8.10 unstable), all I get is an error message(unable to connect to xserver), I tried reconfiguring x as well as using a minimalist xorg.conf (vesa, nv, and nvidia (8800gtx), all failed), the xorg.log won't give any hints either. I don't think that there is something wrong with my xorg.conf'igs. Any ideas?
[16:11] <dxdemetriou> I'll try adding ufw in rc and I hope to work.. thanks for help :)
[16:11] <jc> not all program seem to work with gvfs, how can I fix this, specifically I need it to work with openkomodo
[16:11] <master_> Does anybody know what might be the problem... I installed the smtp on my ubuntu 8.04 server and everything went as supposed by the how to "perfect server"... only when I try to test it by telnet localhost 25 I get connected, but no host or domain info is listed and I get stuck no response on any commands not even quit... :(
[16:11] <master_> Can someone help please
[16:11] <DM1> nixnoob: yes
[16:12] <KirO> rootedit, i heard that today they'll release 8.10 alpha2, you can try to upgrade ...
[16:12] <IdleOne> kinglet, ok let me explain it to you so you understand. please keep in mind that I am not trying to insult you. right now you are not ready or capable of doing such an upgrade of perl. you don't have enough knoledge not to mention that updating perl will probably cause other issues. besides the fact that from your pastebin earlier today you have 6 other depends you need to upgrade that are not yet available in ubuntu. solution do a dist-upgrade to
[16:12] <IdleOne>  8.04 and use the pidgin provided
[16:12] <gam3r111> does anyone know where i can find window animations?
[16:12] <Noia> I'm trying to set up SSH keys, and it seems to work half-way, it says "Passphrase for key "imported-openssh-key"", so its picking up the key but it seems it still wants a password, however it is now the passphrase for the key not the password for the account...how do I make it not require the passphrase ?
[16:13] <gam3r111> ﻿does anyone know where i can find window animations?
[16:13] <nixnoob> DM1: hmmm, I have no idea, can you ping your router from windows?
[16:13] <tofaffy> I have a samba share mapped from my desktop and want to set it to automount via stab on the laptop (both are ubuntu), what would I need to put in my fstab file to share it?
[16:13] <rootedit> Kir0: all packages are up to date
[16:13] <gam3r111> ﻿does anyone know where i can find window animations?
[16:13] <DM1> nixnoob: yes
[16:13] <gam3r111> ﻿does anyone know where i can find window animations?
[16:13] <soundray> Noia: use 'ssh-add' to make ssh-agent remember your passphrase for the duration of your gnome session
[16:14] <richard128> hi everyone
[16:14] <nixnoob> DM1: can you open your router's configuration menu from the browser?
[16:14] <IdleOne> kinglet, just because pidgin has released a new version does not mean that it is better then the one provided with Ubuntu 8.04. I really think you need to do an upgrade of Ubuntu and not of pidgin
[16:14] <gam3r111> ﻿does anyone know where i can find window animations?
[16:14] <gam3r111> plez
[16:14] <Slart> gam3r111: asking a question once every 5 minutes is enough.. use the time for googling and checking the forums
[16:14] <richard128> is pidgin better than kopete???
[16:14] <master_> Does anybody know what might be the problem... I installed the smtp on my ubuntu 8.04 server and everything went as supposed by the how to "perfect server"... only when I try to test it by telnet localhost 25 I get connected, but no host or domain info is listed and I get stuck no response on any commands not even quit... :(
[16:14] <DM1> nixnoob: yes
[16:14] <soundray> !ccsm | gam3r111
[16:14] <master_> this is the link to the howto http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts-p5
[16:15] <Noia> soundray, huh? I don't have gnome. I'm setting up keys on my ubuntu server so I can auto-connect for svn etc
[16:15] <wjohnson> hey guys
[16:15] <Noia> soundray, as I said, it seems to half work but I'm clearly missing something
[16:15] <amatson97> guys what is best practice for tidying up your ubuntu install ? i have gone through some tutorials but do you have any tips ?
[16:15] <richard128> is ubuntu better than opensuse??
[16:15] <nixnoob> DM1: can you ping 72.14.207.99 ?
[16:15] <DeadPanda> master_: I'd check the logs in /var/log for more information first, that isn't much to go off
[16:15] <IdleOne> !upgrade > kinglet read the following links
[16:15] <slavi1> richard128: yes
[16:15] <wjohnson> my flash and my master volume are not working together. can anyone help me?
[16:15] <soundray> Noia: then you have to setup ssh-agent to cover your bash session
[16:15] <richard128> woo
[16:16] <soundray> Noia: or generate an unprotected ssh key without a passphrase (but that's not recommended)
[16:16] <richard128> i guess i liked ubuntu also
[16:16] <Noia> soundray, I'm following this tutorial; http://tortoisesvn.net/ssh_howto
[16:16] <richard128> in fact im using pidgin right now on ubuntu
[16:16] <xubuntuuser> Firefox 3.0 tells me that the tor-proxy blocked the connection. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[16:16] <Jeruvy> !polls >richard128
[16:17] <KirO> someone may help me fixing my laptop's brightness up&down keys? they don't work on ubuntu, the scripts in /etc/acpi work well, it seems that my keys don't call these scripts. Thank you
[16:17] <amatson97> logitech pro9000? anyone?
[16:17] <nixnoob> DM1: can you ping 72.14.207.99 ?
[16:17] <em_> master_ -- silly question, but do you know for sure that the smtp server is actually running, being installed and being started are not the same things...
[16:18] <gam3r111> ﻿does anyone know where i can find window animations?
[16:18] <DM1> nixnoob: I never tried
[16:18] <soundray> Noia: do you have Windows on the client side?
[16:18] <xubuntuuser> gam3r111: Which distribution do you use?
[16:18] <nixnoob> DM1: well why dont you try its google, perhaps you do have an internet connection but just aa DNS problem...
[16:18] <gam3r111> ubuntu 8.04
[16:19] <Noia> soundray, yes, the mac should be much easier, I've gone thrugh the putty steps
[16:19] <soundray> gam3r111: what was wrong with the pointer that ubottu gave you above?
[16:19] <nixnoob> DM1: i mean ping it from windows.
[16:19] <Noia> soundray, I get the feeling that its not _quite_ doing the keys right on the server side
[16:19] <DM1> nixnoob: I tried alternate dns, no luck
[16:19] <Doppp> hi should i stick to the GRUB bootloader or the Vista Bootloader
[16:19] <amatson97> gam3rlll: look in add remove for compiz that does desktop effects is that what you are after
[16:19] <IdleOne> grub
[16:19] <monostone> Anyone manage to correctly configure "Logitech G9 Laser Mouse" and "Logitech G11 gaming keyboard" in ubuntu gutsy 7.10 using evdev drivers? I have gone over half a dozen different ways of configuring xorg.conf for that, but none seem to work.
[16:19] <gam3r111> soundray: i already have compiz i want to make it so when i minimize my window it turns into an airplane
[16:19] <ronin12345> Is there a way to control XBMC via VNC? it doesn't refresh the screen
[16:19] <IdleOne> Doppp, grub
[16:20] <Doppp> any reason why?
[16:20] <richard128> hello every one can someone help me restore grub after installing windows?
[16:20] <soundray> Noia: can you describe the actual problem again?
[16:20] <xubuntuuser> gam3r111: I used ubuntu long time before but i think there is a config-manager in GNOME as well, isn't it?
[16:20] <richard128> pm me
[16:20] <IdleOne> Doppp, because the vista boot loader does not play nice
[16:20] <soundray> !ccsm | gam3r111, this is what you need
[16:20] <soundray> !ccsm
[16:20] <soundray> !test
[16:20] <IdleOne> lol
[16:20] <soundray> !test | soundray
[16:20] <Noia> soundray, when I connect it should not require a password, instead it now requires the passphrase for the private key. I can log in via putty but it should be automatic
[16:21] <gam3r111> soundray: ??
[16:21] <ASULutzy> Noia: I'm lazy, I don't password protect my key ;)
[16:21] <master_> It's started... I mean It's supposed to be
[16:21] <ASULutzy> gam3r111: just run ccsm
[16:21] <ASULutzy> gam3r111: all the compiz effect options are changeable from within there
[16:21] <soundray> Noia: if you don't want it to require a passphrase to unlock your key, you have to set up a key without a passphrase.
[16:21] <IdleOne> gam3r111, open Synaptic Package Manager and search for compiz-settings-manager and install that
[16:21] <master_> because... I restarted postfix and saslauthd
[16:21] <nixnoob> DM1: did you install yesterdays update on windows?
[16:21] <speed1> hrmm....any ideas? i just booted my computer regularly and when it's time for grub to load it just says "GRUB" and doesn't show me the menu. i booted into a livecd and re-installed grub to the parition (repaired it like i do when i move/resize that partition) -- but same result -- any suggestions?
[16:21] <wers> who uses gimmie here?
[16:21] <master_> Am I wright?
[16:22] <em_> Dopp -- from what I have read and experienced -- either one will work but it's safer to allow vista to remain in control of the boot.
[16:22] <soundray> Noia: or you need ssh-agent to manage the key for you, but this applies to Linux clients.#
[16:22] <monostone> a post of the relevant device section of xorg.conf for a working config is good enough for me, thanks!
[16:22] <Noia> soundray, -_- I thought it could be done with a challenge-responce thing without having to type anything
[16:22] <remi_> hi all
[16:22] <ASULutzy> gam3r111: Here's exactly what you have to do. click applications ->accessories->terminal, then type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install compiz-config-settings-manager && ccsm
[16:22] <soundray> !ccsm > gam3r111
[16:22] <GleepGlop> Ok, I cannot log out or lock my session in Gnome. The screen locks up when I click the red X in the panel.
[16:22] <DM1> DM1: yes
[16:22]  * IdleOne goes to work ... soundray and other regs :) have a nice day 
[16:22] <DM1> nixnoob: yes
[16:22] <gam3r111> ﻿asulutzy: i alrady have it
[16:22] <soundray> Thanks IdleOne
[16:22] <ASULutzy> gam3r111: then run it. run ccsm.
[16:22] <nixnoob> DM1: that may  have broken it.... it was a patch for dns to fix an exploit...
[16:23] <gam3r111> ﻿﻿asulutzy: i just want to make it so when i minimize it turns into an airplane
[16:23] <remi_> how do i get ccsm on ubuntu hardy?
[16:23] <soundray> Noia: only if your ssh key is unlocked
[16:23] <soundray> !ccsm > remi_
[16:23] <ASULutzy> gam3r111: I just want you to run ccsm and edit the options in there.
[16:23] <DM1> nixnoob: okay... which patch was it? How do I undo it?
[16:23] <gam3r111> ﻿﻿asulutzy: i cant find the one whith that option
[16:23] <Noia> soundray, but I followed the tutorial >.< waah
[16:23] <KirO> someone may help me fixing my laptop's brightness up&down keys? they don't work on ubuntu, the scripts in /etc/acpi work well, it seems that my keys don't call these scripts. Thank you
[16:23] <soundray> Noia: the tutorial is not for Linux clients
[16:23] <nixnoob> DM1: i have no idea, i dont use windows, i just read it on google news yesterday
[16:23] <havacci> where the packages downloaded with apt-get are stored in the system?
[16:23] <DeadPanda> Are those of us not enamoured with Compiz in the minority?  It's still one of the first things I turn off :s
[16:24] <Noia> soundray, my server is linux, my client in this case is windows
[16:24] <Noia> soundray, it is the correct tutorial, but I don't understand what the problem is
[16:24] <ASULutzy> gam3r111: It's under animations, minimize effect, I believe
[16:24] <GleepGlop> I cannot log out of Ubuntu using the GUI.  The session locks up and I have to restart GDM
[16:24] <speed1> Anyone mind helping me with GRUB? I booted up my computer this morning -- after no system changed, and grub only says "GRUB"...and doesn't complete loading. reinstalling grub did _not_ fix the problem
[16:25] <soundray> Noia: I don't think you fully understand what the tutorial is for
[16:25] <DeadPanda> speed1: weren't you asking about switching to AHCI before? :)
[16:25] <richard128> anyone can help me with my prob?
[16:25] <master_> DeadPanda If I rm all the mail logs from there will I get the new ones?... I mean I don't know how old this is.. and as I was doing the installation like 3 times from the start after removing the packages and conf files... mayb the log contains the old errors...
[16:25] <em_> noia to do it without having to type anything you need a key that is not password protected, but then you need to make sure no one else can get access to that key -- which is typically not a problem if you are running a single user system but is a problem on a shared system.  see the docs on http://www.openssl.org for hwo to remove the password from the key
[16:25] <richard128> P.M. me plz
[16:25] <speed1> DeadPanda: i didn't switch :P i was in a liveCD reinstall grub when i asked about that...in a livecd cause my system was already having this grub error i thought the grub install would fix
[16:26] <death2u2> hello
[16:26] <jc> found the answer to my history question Synaptic>File>History
[16:26] <ASULutzy> Noia: If you've password protected your private key you'll have to enter the password to unlock the key, I would just make your private key not password protected (but only if you're the only person with physical access to the machine
[16:26] <legend2440> speed1: you did    	sudo grub	find /boot/grub/stage1	root (hd?,?)	setup (hd0)	quit ?
[16:26] <death2u2> can anyone tell me free cd burning tool for windows? cant remember the name, need to create ubuntu 64 cd
[16:26] <DeadPanda> speed1: ah - just check you're pointing GRUB at the right drive, and to where /boot/grub/menu.lst is
[16:26] <DeadPanda> speed1: it isn't as simple as just installing GRUB
[16:26] <richard128> hello anyone?
[16:26] <soundray> !burniso > death2u2
[16:26] <master_> DeadPanda: If I rm all the mail logs from there will I get the new ones?... I mean I don't know how old this is.. and as I was doing the installation like 3 times from the start after removing the packages and conf files... mayb the log contains the old errors...
[16:27] <ASULutzy> !ask | richard128
[16:27] <Zeeon> death2u2: try imgburn
[16:27] <Noia> em_, ASULutzy, thanks, it just seems stupid that the tutorial shows you how to produce a locked key when from what you two are saying, that is not what is requires in a situation like this
[16:27] <havacci> where the packages downloaded with apt-get are stored in the system???
[16:27] <gam3r111> ASULutzy: i cant find it under minimize effect?
[16:27] <DeadPanda> master_: yup, but usually you can just check the bottom of the file
[16:27] <ASULutzy> Noia: Well, to be fair, a password protected private key is more secure than one that isn't
[16:27] <soundray> havacci: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:28] <kamola> how to install the guestadditions in virtualbox? it doesn't work when i click on it
[16:28] <death2u2> thanks for fast help :)
[16:28] <death2u2> cu
[16:28] <speed1> deadpanda:: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m619b897a  are the instructions i followed. they've worked everytime i've moved my root partition and broken grub (which isn't the case this time)
[16:28] <ASULutzy> gam3r111: Look harder. run ccsm, click animations, click the minimize animation tab, it's called airplane
[16:28] <havacci> soundray, thanks
[16:28] <Noia> ASULutzy, understandably so but I can't type the password in on an automated system
[16:28] <master_> DeadPanda: You Pandas are so wise... :D I totally forgot about that puny little thing .... LOL
[16:28] <kamola> i would like to have access on some files of my win hdd
[16:29] <wjohnson> i was trying to get softvolume in flash to work with my master volume. I installed aoss, then tried to start it by typing aoss firefox in terminal, but it still didn't work. any ideas?
[16:29] <legend2440> speed1:  try instructions in post #1   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[16:29] <remi_> !ccsm
[16:30] <monostone> Anyone manage to correctly configure "Logitech G9 Laser Mouse" and "Logitech G11 gaming keyboard" in ubuntu gutsy 7.10 using evdev drivers?
[16:30] <jc> kamola what problem are you having?
[16:30] <Noia> monostone, any hope for the logitech bluetooth series?
[16:30] <DeadPanda> speed1: that looks fine, scroll up to see what legend said about post GRUB installation configuration, though
[16:30] <KirO> someone may help me fixing my laptop's brightness up&down keys? they don't work on ubuntu, the scripts in /etc/acpi work well, it seems that my keys don't call these scripts. Thank you
[16:31] <richard128> how to change ext3 to reiserfs
[16:31] <richard128> ?
[16:31] <gokul> can anybody help me , im a completle newbie..i just installed anjuta ..n i want to know how to compile and run a test program
[16:31] <richard128> ﻿how to change ext3 to reiserfs
[16:31] <monostone> Noia: not sure... I'm using USB wired devices myself
[16:31] <richard128> ﻿how to change ext3 to reiserfs
[16:31] <gordonjcp> richard128: you can't, really
[16:31] <Noia> monostone, ah
[16:31] <richard128> what?
[16:31] <richard128> is that no possible?
[16:31] <gordonjcp> richard128: convert ext3 to reiserfs
[16:31] <soundray> richard128: backup, format and restore
[16:32] <gordonjcp> you'd need to back up the partition and reformat, then restore
[16:32] <soundray> !pm | richard128
[16:32] <soundray> richard128: why do you want reiserfs?
[16:32] <richard128> for my home
[16:33] <richard128> partition
[16:33] <ASULutzy> richard128: Be careful, that file system will murder your wife
[16:33] <soundray> richard128: why?
[16:33] <Magicdead> i have a problem with mounting an usb-device (samsung digimax l70 camera). it used to work automatically under gutsy, but under hardy it doesn't get mounted automatically/recognised as camera. so i tried to mount it manually with an /etc/fstab entry "/dev/sdd1	/media/usb	vfat rw,user,auto 0 0" which works fine to mount it, only that it's owned by root with 755 permission. "sudo chmod 077 -R /media/usb" wont give an error, but won't ch
[16:33] <Magicdead> ange the permissions either. and sudo chown <myuser> will give an "operation not permitted" error
[16:33] <DeadPanda> ASULutzy: I was trying sooo hard not to crack a joke like that too
[16:33] <sipior> ASULutzy: rather poor taste...
[16:33] <soundray> ASULutzy: that's in bad taste
[16:33] <richard128> accrding to a guide it's better
[16:33] <speed1> DeadPanda:  following those instructions, shows me grub is already set correctly (0,3)
[16:33] <richard128> i have read it on linux magazine
[16:33] <richard128> can you pm me plz
[16:33] <gokul> can anybody help me , im a completle newbie..i just installed anjuta ..n i want to know how to compile and run a test program
[16:33] <DeadPanda> speed1: and when you reboot, it still fails?
[16:33] <richard128> its hard to chat here...
[16:33] <soundray> richard128: it's better in very rare circumstances. Stick to ext3
[16:34] <speed1> deadpanda:: yup. black screen, "GRUB"..nothing else
[16:34] <gokul> anybody here can help me with anjuta ?
[16:34] <richard128> ﻿soundray chat with me plz its complicated here..plz
[16:34] <richard128> reply to my msg
[16:34] <soundray> richard128: I've already said what I had to say
[16:34] <DeadPanda> speed1: that sounds broken - it looks like you've done everything right so far, so I'm stumped
[16:35] <richard128> ok
[16:35] <gordonjcp> gokul: what have you tried so far?
[16:35] <richard128> but can u teach me how to increase a existing partition anyway?
[16:35] <speed1> deadpanda:: if it's of any use, if i tell it to setup (hd0,3) anyway...just to walk through the steps, it says Error 12: Invalid device requested
[16:35] <bazhang> richard128, what is the issue
[16:35] <soundray> !gparted | richard128
[16:35] <richard128> my harddisk
[16:36] <soundray> richard128: use gparted for resizing (start if from a live CD)
[16:36] <soundray> *it
[16:36] <bazhang> richard128, to whom are you speaking; append their nickname
[16:36] <richard128> will i need to install it?
[16:36] <DeadPanda> speed1: hmm, just cross-reference it with fdisk -l, and remember grub's 0-indexed, (sda1,1 -> (hd0,0) etc.)
[16:36] <soundray> richard128: it comes with the Ubuntu Desktop CD
[16:36] <richard128> i guess it's preinstalled?
[16:36] <bazhang> richard128, pay attention
[16:36] <richard128> yup i get it..guess i have to search on some forums
[16:37] <soundray> richard128: no, you just need to listen
[16:37] <bazhang> richard128, get the livecd and boot from it
[16:37] <gokul> gordonjcp..i have written a program till now
[16:37] <Vock> hey, i just got a question about compiz cube, how do you make the top and bottom transparent?
[16:37] <lenswipe> anyone know what kind of number permissions i should be giving a site logo??/
[16:37] <gokul> wondering how to compile it ..n run it
[16:37] <richard128> yes, as soon as my drive is in need more space
[16:37] <Vock> i can't find the hollow cube option
[16:37] <lenswipe> anyone know what kind of number permissions i should be giving a site logo??/
[16:37] <richard128> i've jst newly installed ubuntu after a broken system few days ago
[16:37] <kari> which is the best music composing software?is ubuntustudio  good?
[16:38] <lenswipe> Vock: its under desktop cube and u change the transpareny
[16:38] <lenswipe> anyone know what kind of number permissions i should be giving a site logo??/
[16:38] <Vock> thanks lenswipe
[16:38] <richard128> ryt now im waiting for my jdk to finsh downloading
[16:38] <richard128> ^^
[16:38] <soundray> richard128: in that case, get the gparted live CD. You don't need a lot of space to save that.
[16:38] <bazhang> richard128, please take the play by play of your download elsewhere.
[16:38] <lenswipe> Vock: no probs :_
[16:38] <lenswipe> :)*
[16:38] <lenswipe> anyone know what kind of number permissions i should be giving a site logo??/
[16:38] <richard128> ha?
[16:39] <richard128> wt do u mean?
[16:39] <legend2440> speed1: if you reboot can you hit ESC and get into where you can edit grub?
[16:39] <richard128> bazhang?
[16:39] <lenswipe> anyone know what kind of number permissions i should be giving a site logo??/
[16:39] <sipior> lenswipe: what do you mean by number permissions? and why would a site logo have special permissions?
[16:39] <speed1> legend2440: no. it freezes at the black screen that says "GRUB" in text
[16:39] <gordonjcp> kari: might be better to ask in #ubuntustudio or #lad
[16:39] <lenswipe> sipior: my site logo has special permissions because for some reason its restricted
[16:39] <monostone> last question repeat, thank you! : Anyone manage to correctly configure "Logitech G9 Laser Mouse" and "Logitech G11 gaming keyboard" in ubuntu gutsy 7.10 using evdev drivers?
[16:39] <speed1> ﻿DeadPanda: fdisk -l /dev/sda  ...shows my linux partition as sda4...which is same as it's always been
[16:39] <gordonjcp> gokul: from the menu, select "build"
[16:39] <sipior> lenswipe: do you mean a favicon for your site?
[16:39] <KirO> someone may help me fixing my laptop's brightness up&down keys? they don't work on ubuntu, the scripts in /etc/acpi work well, it seems that my keys don't call these scripts. Thank you
[16:39] <gordonjcp> gokul: you'll need a makefile etc
[16:39] <gokul> ok
[16:39] <lenswipe> sipior: no the site logo
[16:40] <kevin__> Hello, I was wondering how I get the font centered in the window of metacity? At the top.
[16:40] <lenswipe> sipior: the actual logo at the top isnt showing cos for some reason its restricted
[16:40] <lenswipe> sipior: it doesnt even have read permissions... :@
[16:40] <legend2440> speed1:  can you get to command line and type sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[16:40] <speed1> legend , deadpanda:: here's my fdisk -l output http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m783b65c5
[16:40] <lenswipe> sipior: do u have any ideas?
[16:41] <speed1> legend2440: only from a liveCD
[16:41] <gokul> how do i do that ?
[16:41] <lenswipe> sipior: i can link u and show u wnat i mean if u like
[16:41] <sipior> lenswipe: about what? why not just give yourself read permissions?
[16:41] <DeadPanda> speed1: GRUB can be idiosyncratic - tried (hd1,3) etc.?
[16:41] <gokul> gordonjcp : im really sorry but there is no option as build
[16:41] <soundray> KirO: what laptop model do you have?
[16:41] <lenswipe> sipior: cos i want the whole web to be able to read it...
[16:41] <DeadPanda> speed1: although I admit, that's fishing
[16:41] <lenswipe> sipior: look[16:41] <speed1> deadpanda:: i've made zero hardware or system config changes. it's always been 0,3 since install
[16:41] <KirO> soundray, Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Pi 2515
[16:42] <sipior> lenswipe: you want it to be readable by the web server, so give it global read permission
[16:42] <gokul> gordonjcp : how to make a make file ..? is it so complicated to compile a single prog ? can i use a Turbo C++ kind of an interface
[16:42] <lenswipe> sipior: how do i do that?
[16:42] <speed1> deadpanda:; this was just my regular morning boot up
[16:42] <sipior> lenswipe: chmod o+r <filename>
[16:42] <lenswipe> sipior: what numbers do i use?
[16:42] <lenswipe> sipior: if any
[16:42] <sipior> lenswipe: chmod o+r <filename>
[16:43] <ronin12345> anyone know what i have to do to get Aeon working for XBMC?
[16:43] <kevin__> Hello, I was wondering how I get the font centered in the window of metacity? At the top.
[16:43] <eloquence> is there a help channel for wine?
[16:43] <lenswipe> sipior: ty
[16:43] <Gin> I have a pro duo card and I want Ubuntu to automount it when I inserted it in the reader
[16:43] <Dasuraga> is there a way to fuse a second hard drive to the root filesystem?
[16:43] <nixnoob> eloquence:  #winehq
[16:43] <eloquence> i tried installing windows media player with wine and at the end of setup it tells me an internal error has occurred
[16:43] <eloquence> ok cool
[16:43] <gordonjcp> gokul: what's Turbo C++?
[16:43] <jfincher> why is Ubuntu's "64bit AMD and Intel computers" cd iso named "ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso"?
[16:44] <soundray> KirO: searching...
[16:44] <sipior> kevin__: i believe that's dictated by the metacity theme you are using. you can hack the theme, or pick another.
[16:44] <soundray> jfincher: why not?
[16:44] <ASULutzy> gordonjcp: Turbo C++ was a very old school IDE by Borland, it was... ghetto at best ;)
[16:44] <ronin12345> gordonjcp: Borlands take on c++
[16:44] <gokul> gordonjcp : turbo C++ is a application i used in windows to compile n run my c n c++ programs
[16:44] <Dasuraga> jfincher:because Intel uses AMD64's architechture
[16:44] <KirO> soundray, ok thanks
[16:44] <jfincher> soundray: because it sounds like it's not intel compatible
[16:44] <gokul> gordonjcp : i am gettin really frustrated at my inability to run a simple c or c++ program
[16:44] <flush> yo
[16:45] <ronin12345> So anyone know how to get the Aeon theme onto XBMC?
[16:45] <KenBW2> After I resume from Suspend my SD Card is reassigned from sdb to sdc. Is there a solution?@@
[16:45] <speed1> legend2440: any other ideas for grub?
[16:45] <flush> i try to connect on licq, it says "unknown sig error 0xc1" wtf ?
[16:45] <flush> it used to work
[16:45] <soundray> jfincher: AMD wrote the amd64 extensions. Intel re-implemented them in their CPUs and called them em64t. Generically, it's often called x86_64. Summary: it's a historical thing
[16:45] <nixnoob> flush: pidgin can handle icq why not use that?
[16:46] <flush> nixnoob cause im such a newb
[16:46] <nixnoob> flush: pidgin is gui and its easy
[16:46] <ronin12345> flush: ugly as sin by default though
[16:46] <nixnoob> flush: it also handles alot of other protocols like AIM etc so you can have one client for multiple networks.
[16:46] <flush> k ill try it thx a lot
[16:47] <lenswipe> sipior: it worked, thx
[16:47] <legend2440> speed1: yes for the heck of it i would try to sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and change (hd0,3) to (hd0,0) maybe backup menu.lst first. can't hurt and you can always change it back
[16:48] <nixnoob> how can i get irssi to auto connect to irc.freenode.net change my nick and join #ubuntu ?
[16:48] <speed1> legend2440: my windows partition is 0,0
[16:48] <erUSUL> jfincher: the kernel developers want to give credit where credit is due. AMD designed x86_64; intel screwed with ia64 itanium simple
[16:48] <legend2440> speed1: i know but i would try it
[16:48] <fixl> has anyone off you guys a Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection network card and solved the problem with the iwl3945 driver under ubuntu hardy? because i get a maximum of 40kb/s :(
[16:49] <amatson97> logitech pro 9000 comon does any one have an idea how to get it to work
[16:49] <nixnoob> fixl: i use that driver and get 600kb
[16:49] <soundray> KirO: there don't seem to be any specific ACPI modules for your laptop. Maybe you can use the keytouch package to link the hotkeys with those scripts:
[16:49] <soundray> !hotkeys | KirO
[16:49] <fixl> nixnoob: did it work "out of the box" for you?
[16:49] <KirO> thank you soundray I'll test it
[16:50] <nixnoob> fixl: yes, it may be something with your router....
[16:50] <ufk_> i don't have the command apache2-ssl-certificate, how can i create a proper certificate for the web server ?
[16:50] <pytechd> Has anyone seen problems with Compiz under 8.04 where viewport switching stops working periodically (I have it set to click on the left edge to flip left, bottom, right, etc)?
[16:51] <fixl> nixnoob: i cant find any option where i can force my router to use a certain standard for the transmission (like 802.11b or something).
[16:51] <nixnoob> fixl: thats not what i meant, i think its TX rates and MTU that need to be adjusted
[16:51] <kari> ﻿gordonjcp: no one is there to respond....
[16:52] <kari> ﻿which is the best music composing software?is ubuntustudio  good?
[16:52] <soundray> kari: ubuntustudio isn't music composing software
[16:52] <fixl> nixnoob: can i usually adjust them in a router?
[16:52] <soundray> !ubuntustudio > kari
[16:53] <nixnoob> fixl: yes it should be in your router's configuration pages somewhere
[16:53] <Vock> does anyone know if K3B can handle DVDs?
[16:53] <fixl> nixnoob: thx for the hint. i'll go and check this out
[16:53] <nixnoob> fixl: advanced wireless settings
[16:53] <nixnoob> fixl: good luck
[16:54] <misnix> Vock, , no problem
[16:54] <gordonjcp> gokul: oh, ok, I wouldn't know, I've never used Windows
[16:55] <nixnoob> fixl: also try to make sure ur not sitting right ontop of the router with your laptop the signal is weakest right next to the router.
[16:55] <fixl> nixnoob: i'm about 5 meters away in my room
[16:55] <nixnoob> fixl: that should be fine
[16:55] <churl> anyone here ever use the firefox extention "FIRE-NES"?
[16:55] <darkben> Hello
[16:55] <kari> ﻿soundray:ok...is there any software like (fruity loops or virtual dj in window )  in linux?
[16:55] <jack-desktop> can someone tell me how to install fonts?
[16:55] <cenobitis> hello
[16:55] <fixl> nixnoob: under gutsy everything worked fine for me
[16:55] <soundray> kari: I don't know any of those
[16:55] <jimcooncat> what's a good little countdown timer program or applet?
[16:55] <darkben> how can i download a good mp3/wma player
[16:56] <legend2440> !fonts
[16:56] <nixnoob> fixl: the driver in gutsy was different.
[16:56] <soundray> !player | darkben
[16:56] <soundray> !software > darkben
[16:56] <fixl> nixnoob: yep i read that
[16:56] <churl> anyone here ever use the firefox extention "FIRE-NES"?   i can't get the games to work.
[16:56] <Rioting_pacifist> !networkmanager
[16:56] <ufk_> how can i create a new ssl certification for apache ?
[16:56] <kari> ﻿soundray:ok any software using which i can remix the songs?
[16:57] <darkben> sure xmms is good
[16:57] <jackmayol> hi
[16:57] <churl> it works fine in windows
[16:57] <darkben> but it can not install with apt-get installl xmms
[16:57] <ufk_> dang.. i exidently did rm -rf /etc/apache2. what packages do i need to reinstall ?
[16:57] <__mork> hi
[16:57] <cenobitis> who can help me with my wireless connection .I have an atheros AR242X can anybody help me?
[16:57] <nixnoob> darkben: xmms is no longer in the repos, its outdated and has been replaced by audacious
[16:58] <monostone> ufk_: read this -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSSL
[16:58] <ufk_> 10x
[16:58] <__mork> how can i print (to printer, using cupsd) an image from command line?
[16:58] <th0r> darkben, but there is a good how to on compiling it from source for hardy
[16:58] <jackmayol> I have a question, I am reinstalling my ATI drivers under 8.04 but the thing is that my screen res is 800x600, so my GUI of the installing thing is half hidden :(((  the buttons "OK" "cancel" or whatever are hidden raaah, is there something I can do ?
[16:58] <darkben> how can i download it
[16:58] <soundray> kari: like a track recorder/editor? Try audacity. More like a sequencer? Try rosegarden
[16:58] <frold> Anyone knows howto fix a DMA problem with my DVD drive?
[16:58] <soundray> !software | darkben
[16:59] <__mork> i can't find a --print option in eog
[16:59] <nixnoob> darkben: i suggest trying audacious all the xmms skins work in audacious and you can install it from the repos, it looks and works just like xmms
[16:59] <fixl> nixnoob: what is your MTU
[16:59] <cenobitis> ﻿who can help me with my wireless connection .I have an atheros AR242X can and can not connect to the internet via my wireless card
[16:59] <__mork> is there another image-viewer with bash printing options
[16:59] <__mork> ?
[16:59] <nixnoob> fixl: unfortunately im at work and using ssh to chat through console with irssi i could look but it would be time consuming.
[16:59] <soundray> jackmayol: as a workaround, use Alt-F7 to move the window up and reveal the hidden part
[16:59] <darkben> can i download with apt
[17:00] <__mork> cenobitis: you should give more info: has a module been loaded for the card?
[17:00] <jackmayol> o
[17:00] <jackmayol> thx
[17:00] <jackmayol> hmm lol
[17:00] <nixnoob> darkben: yes ofcourse, sudo apt-get install audacious
[17:00] <soundray> darkben: please read the link that ubottu pointed out
[17:00] <churl> anyone here ever use the firefox extention "FIRE-NES"?   i can't get the games to work.  this should be an easy fix
[17:01] <fixl> nixnoob: ok :/
[17:01] <soundray> cenobitis: try compiling version 0.10 of the madwifi drivers. You can use the instructions for the eeepc...
[17:01] <nixnoob> fixl: im sure some time spent googling will yeild the correct values.
[17:01] <chad_> Hello
[17:01] <soundray> cenobitis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[17:01] <nixnoob> fixl: try iwl3945 MTU
[17:02] <chad_> can someone explain something to me
[17:02] <darkben> tanx
[17:02] <nixnoob> chad_: dont ask to ask, just ask
[17:02] <sKy\_> what is the standard libdir in ubuntu? is it /usr/lib ?
[17:02] <fixl> nixnoob: hehe that was my first try :)
[17:02] <{Delano}> nixnoob, hi again
[17:02] <nixnoob> fixl: sorry i cant be more helpful i have to go sue some people right now
[17:02] <chad_> ok, how come i cant watch dvds on my computer?
[17:02] <fixl> nixnoob: np
[17:02] <nixnoob> {Delano}: and you are?
[17:02] <chad_> is this so it dosent affect copyright laws?
[17:03] <{Delano}> nixnoob, I was on here about 20 minutes ago, complaining about Windows connections
[17:03] <chad_> hello?
[17:03] <ASULutzy> !patience | chad_
[17:03] <jc> with gnome-vfs where are things actually mounted?
[17:03] <soundray> chad_: have some patience
[17:03] <monostone> chad_: it is probably due to protected dvd content
[17:03] <nixnoob> chad_: yes ubuntu doesn tship with dvd codecs by default for copyright reasons but you can install the codecs through synaptic
[17:03] <monostone> chad_: do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[17:03] <nixnoob> {Delano}: your name changed, you were DM1?
[17:03] <soundray> !dvd | chad_
[17:03] <chad_> sorry, i didnt mean to sound impatient
[17:04] <{Delano}> nixnoob, yeah
[17:04] <LLMP> how u check if you have a virus
[17:04] <churl> i should try that to get a responce!
[17:04] <nixnoob> {Delano}: im sorry i cant help i have to actually do some work now.
[17:04] <{Delano}> nixnoob, I sorted it out... the problem was a stupid windows update!!
[17:04] <jc> when I connect to a windows share via Places>Connect to server where on my fs does it get mounted?
[17:04] <soundray> LLMP: see if you have Windows installed. If you haven't, then you don't have a virus.
[17:04] <frold> I get this error: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[17:04] <{Delano}> nixnoob, no need, just wanted to say thanks for patience
[17:04] <Dasuraga> Is there a program that can automatically organise your music?
[17:04] <LLMP> ok i dont have windwos installed
[17:04] <nixnoob> {Delano}: well i told you in the first place your problem is windows, delete it.
[17:04] <nixnoob> {Delano}: lol
[17:04] <Shoopuf> Is there a way to make the "hot spots" on the corners of windows bigger for resizing? I have a hard time aligning my mouse within the 2-pixel-wide hotspot :P
[17:05] <{Delano}> Don't tempt me.
[17:05] <nixnoob> PriceChild was offended but i was actually correct ahahhaa
[17:05] <soundray> churl: if nobody knows an answer, then you won't get any
[17:05] <ASULutzy> LLMP: They make antivirus programs for Linux, but they're really only there to check for Windows viruses. They do make apps to check for rootkits in Linux, which are a real possibility if you are running untrusted apps with sudo left and right
[17:05] <cenobitis> ﻿who can help me with my wireless connection .I have a toshiba a210 madel and  an atheros AR242X wireless card  can anybody help me?
[17:05] <chad_> right, so copyright laws? its just that i watched a DVD that was not cp righted, and it worked
[17:05] <{Delano}> What did PriceChild say?
[17:05] <openuser> hi, I want to make a connection to a remote computer via internet with vinagre, but I don't undersatand anything, it ask me for a port, a name of a computer, but I don't know them, can someone make me see the light?
[17:05] <chad_> but not a cp one
[17:05] <nixnoob> PriceChild actually got me banned for calling him a robot some time ago, that wasnt nice but I forgive him, he said i wasnt being helpful be he has no sense of humor ive learned.
[17:06] <monostone> chad_ : like I said -> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[17:06] <RAdams> how can I get the initrd for vmlinuz-2.6.24.3?
[17:06] <nixnoob> ok im away for the next two or three hours
[17:06] <nixnoob> {Delano}: glad to be h elpful
[17:06] <soundray> chad_: it's nothing to do with the copyright of the DVD content, but with legal issues surrounding the software needed for decoding DVDs
[17:06] <chad_> btw, sorry if i sounded ignorant
[17:06] <chad_> right
[17:07] <ks3> jc: I believe it shows up under ~/.gvfs
[17:07] <chad_> i heard that linux was pulled up for having a software that illegally decoded DVDs and copied them
[17:07] <RAdams> *legal bullcrap. fixed for you, soundray
[17:07] <fbc> How can I maintain ubuntu updated on a computer that does not have internet access. If there a way to execute somekind of a DIFF command and download the new packages from a nother computer running ubuntu?
[17:07] <Luxx16126> Hello! How can i access a CD/DVD to get files from that
[17:07] <RAdams> there is no "linux" to take to court. the linux foundation maintains the kernel, which has nothing to do with the issue.
[17:07] <soundray> RAdams: what?
[17:07] <gordonjcp> chad_: in some countries, they actually allow patents on software
[17:07] <cenobitis> i have a toshiba a210 laptop and an atheros wireless card .can anybody help me with my connection?plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[17:08] <jc> ks3: thanks I'll take a look there
[17:08] <chad_> o...k.....
[17:08] <gordonjcp> chad_: for most people it won't affect them
[17:08] <RAdams> soundray: legal issues surrounding... changed to legal bullcrap :)
[17:08] <chad_> so who manages it then?
[17:08] <soundray> cenobitis: what was wrong with my earlier answer
[17:08] <chad_> RAdams, i agree
[17:08] <Shoopuf> Luxx16126: The CD/DVD should appear on your desktop when you put the CD in. Or it should be under the "Places Menu > Computer" ?
[17:08] <RAdams> chad_: manages what?
[17:08] <gordonjcp> chad_: now, the idea is that DVD uses some super seekrit patented algorithm, not entirely unlike ROT13, to scramble content
[17:08] <soundray> RAdams: do not repeat that again please
[17:09] <soundray> RAdams: I was being intentionally vague
[17:09] <Luxx16126> Shoopuf It doesn't work... I cant open the CD/DVD it gives UDF volume error
[17:09] <trakinas> Dasuraga: loads of program. but u want one only for ognazing or one which is organer and player?
[17:09] <Sacaros> vista sucks
[17:09] <gordonjcp> chad_: and the DVD Consortium got all upset when it turned out that most of the world doesn't work the way they think it does, and threw a hissy fit
[17:09] <RAdams> soundray: and I was being intentionally specific. We agree to disagree.
[17:09] <RAdams> how can I get the initrd for vmlinuz-2.6.24.3?
[17:09] <Dasuraga> I want one that reorganises the stuff into folders, I don't care if it doesn't actually play the music
[17:09] <gordonjcp> chad_: so in conclusion, it's an issue for people in the US, but they can't afford DVDs anyway
[17:09] <soundray> RAdams: keep that out of the channel please
[17:10] <RAdams> soundray: ok.
[17:10] <soundray> RAdams: there is no such kernel distributed with Ubuntu
[17:10] <ASULutzy> !virus > LLMP
[17:10] <RAdams> soundray: I know. I had to compile a kernel to enable ACPI debugging with function trace
[17:10] <c> t
[17:10] <Luxx16126> Shoopuf: It doesn't work... I cant open the CD/DVD it gives UDF volume error
[17:10] <RAdams> soundray: but I don't know where to get the initrd for it.
[17:10] <soundray> RAdams: you have to compile it
[17:11] <trakinas> Dasuraga: you mean, one that will get your music and organize it into real directories like if you would do it by hand
[17:11] <trakinas> ?
[17:11] <Dasuraga> yes
[17:11] <Luxx16126> Shoopuf : It doesn't work... I cant open the CD/DVD it gives UDF volume error
[17:11] <trakinas> Dasuraga: never heard of any program that would do such thing.
[17:11] <RAdams> soundray: ah, so there is no prebuilt initrd for it available. ok thanks.
[17:11] <trakinas> in any operating system.
[17:11] <Dasuraga> oh well
[17:11] <trakinas> Dasuraga: i know of programs that organize them into db and stuff
[17:11] <Luxx16126> Can i uninstall UBUNTU without installing WINDOWS?
[17:12] <tharvey> trying to understand how to get my DELL LCD monitor to go into powersave mode using nvidia binary driver - thats the feature of DPMS right?   I'm using ubuntu-8.04 and would like the monitor to go into powersave mode when the screensaver kicks in - I don't see anything about powering down the monitor in the screensaver GUI or the Power Management prefs GUI for that matter
[17:12] <RAdams> Luxx16126: yes.
[17:12] <Luxx16126> how?
[17:12] <c_lisp> format :)
[17:12] <openuser> no one know any vinagre tutorial?
[17:12] <Luxx16126> how can i format ubuntu? Please tell me
[17:12] <c_lisp> or just delete the partition luxx
[17:12] <soundray> RAdams: wherever you got your instructions for compiling, there should be an explanation for making the initramfs as well
[17:12] <Shoopuf> Luxx16126: You mean like get rid of Windows and only run Ubuntu?
[17:12] <Luxx16126> no
[17:12] <trakinas> so, even if your files are messy, into the program they would appear organized.
[17:13] <Luxx16126> get rid of ubuntu
[17:13] <Luxx16126> and no windows
[17:13] <Luxx16126> just blank computer no OS
[17:13] <trakinas> Luxx16126: just format and remove your partitions
[17:13] <soundray> Luxx16126: boot from a live CD and format the hard disk drive
[17:13] <Shoopuf> sure... Use a System Restore CD and blast the entire hard drive by partitioning it
[17:13] <ASULutzy> Luxx16126: boot to a live cd and use fdisk to remove all partitions
[17:13] <Luxx16126> is there any tutorial?
[17:13] <monostone> Luxx16126: fdisk and start anew
[17:13] <seisen> !dban
[17:13] <soundray> Luxx16126: it's too easy to require a tutorial
[17:13] <monostone> man fdisk
[17:13] <Luxx16126> i dont understand :/
[17:14] <Luxx16126> wgats FDISK???
[17:14] <Luxx16126> whats*
[17:14] <monostone>  fdisk - Partition table manipulator for Linux
[17:14] <trakinas> !fidsk | Luxx16126
[17:14] <Luxx16126> where is it?
[17:14] <trakinas> !fdisk | Luxx16126
[17:14] <bomsinc> Hi. I have a Windows NFS mount I need to access from ubuntu 8.04. How would I do that?
[17:14] <trakinas> Luxx16126: just tyoe fdisk
[17:14] <trakinas> *type
[17:14] <Luxx16126> to terminal?
[17:14] <soundray> Luxx16126: it's in /sbin
[17:15] <RAdams> Luxx16126: put in the ubuntu cd, when it gets to point where it asks what part of the disk to use, tell it to use the whole disk.
[17:15] <soundray> !nfs > bomsinc
[17:15] <sparr> is there a program that can tile an animated gif?
[17:15] <churl> anyone here ever use the firefox extention "FIRE-NES"?   i can't get the games to work.  this should be an easy fix
[17:15] <ASULutzy> !info fdisk | Luxx16126
[17:15] <soundray> !info imagemagick | sparr
[17:15] <sotec_prod_> Using Ubuntu 8.04, can I run a program that resides on a NTFS disk using WINE? What are the ramifications of this action? Can it fry my Windows drive, or has NTFS support come far enough to be relavitely safe?
[17:15] <bomsinc> Thanks
[17:16] <ASULutzy> Ubottu you fail yet again. Luxx16126 Anyway, just pop in a live cd, run sudo fdisk /dev/sda and just keep pushing 'd' to delete partitions, then push 'w' to write.
[17:16] <Shoopuf> Luxx16126: Whenever I want to completely wipe a drive or partitions I use this ::: http://sourceforge.net/projects/systemrescuecd/ ::: You burn it to a CD, turn the computer on with the CD in, and a little OS boots up from the CD. Then you can open the "Gparted" program to turn the entire disk into an NTFS or EXT3 or whatever partitions you want.
[17:16] <RAdams> sotec_prod_: you should be fine. ntfs-3g has been stable.
[17:16] <soundray> ASULutzy: there is no fdisk package. How is that a bot failure?
[17:16] <trakinas> ASULutzy: best tutorial ever. hahah
[17:16] <[E]Mnemonic^> Hi.. I am new to Ubunto, but used to Gentoo.... How can I search for Applications from the console?
[17:16] <churl> anyone here ever use the firefox extention "FIRE-NES"?   i can't get the games to work.  this should be an easy fix
[17:17] <soundray> [E]Mnemonic^: apt-cache search keyword
[17:17] <[E]Mnemonic^> soundray: Thanks.
[17:17] <sotec_prod_> RAdams, so I can run the applications without installing them on my Ubuntu partition via WINE? I just run it?
[17:17] <Ascavasaion> [E]Mnemonic^, Try aptitude search something
[17:17] <RAdams> churl: post on the developers comments board at addons.mozilla.org
[17:17] <ASULutzy> soundray: well, info fdisk was dumb, but the fact that !fdisk doesn't have any information in the bot seems silly
[17:17] <sparr> !info stfu | soundray
[17:17] <sparr> drat
[17:17] <jpds> sparr: Please be civil.
[17:17] <soundray> !ops | sparr abusive
[17:18] <jpds> soundray: I was on it
[17:18]  * ASULutzy waves farewell to sparr
[17:18] <sparr> soundray: thank you for that wholly unhelpful waste of the bots time as well as my own
[17:18] <soundray> !coc > sparr
[17:18] <ASULutzy> sparr: You asked a question and he gave you a good answer. What's your problem?
[17:18] <[E]Mnemonic^> How come .. When I search using apt-cache search earth I get googleearth, but I cannot fint it in the Gui search?
[17:18] <sparr> ASULutzy: on what basis do you consider his answer "good"?
[17:19] <ASULutzy> sparr: That it effectively answered your question?
[17:19] <soundray> sparr: imagemagick can tile animated gifs
[17:19] <sparr> soundray: i do not believe you.
[17:19] <sparr> ASULutzy: see above
[17:19] <soundray> sparr: then get lost
[17:20] <RAdams> sotec_prod_: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Google around to see the problems others had with running applications installed on their windows paritions via WINE... programs which use registry keys to run, read settings, etc are not likely to work
[17:20] <ASULutzy> sparr: He told the bot to give you info on imagemagick. You could click it to find out more information about it, or you could install it. That's really all there is to it
[17:20] <RAdams> sparr, imagemagick can tile gifs. If you don't believe soundray, or me, ask google.
[17:20] <sparr> RAdams: there is a key word missing from your explanation
[17:20] <Mnemonic^> It seams that the Ubuntu application support is much less than Gentoo's Where can I find more sources, so I can get a richer application list?
[17:21] <RAdams> sparr: which is?
[17:21] <sparr> ASULutzy: i already have it installed.  i use it every day.  just because he named some random graphics app doesnt mean it's a valid answer to my question
[17:21] <sparr> RAdams: "animated"
[17:21] <ASULutzy> !ops | sparr trolling?
[17:21] <Ahadiel> Mnemonic^, Yeah, you probably won't find EVERY single app in the repos.
[17:21] <nixternal> wth is going on?
[17:21] <RAdams> sparr: imagemagick can tile animated gifs. if you don't believe soundray or me, ask google. better?
[17:21] <Ahadiel> Mnemonic^, Are you using the Add/Remove GUI to install stuff?
[17:21] <J-_> Is there a pytmp package in Ubuntu? What is it called?
[17:21] <Mnemonic^> Ahadiel: Jep
[17:22] <jpds> nixternal: see -ops
[17:22] <Ahadiel> Mnemonic^, Well, try using the other package manager GUI.
[17:22] <sparr> RAdams: measurably better
[17:22] <ASULutzy> nixternal: sparr has been warned several times about the coc, and some other stuff, he's being abusive, he did !info stfu | soundray, etc
[17:22] <sotec_prod> RAdams, thanks a lot for the help, and good luck with the nazi's today. I don't have the stomach for it right now.
[17:22] <Ahadiel> Mnemonic^, The Add/Remove GUI is only for basic things.
[17:22] <e23> Mnemonic^: you can also add more sources to the apt-get source list (which, is the same list the Add/Remove GUI looks in).
[17:22] <Mnemonic^> e23, Jep but where can I finde relevant sources?
[17:23] <Mnemonic^> Ahadiel: ok :)
[17:23] <matthew__> anyone know what could be causing the "suspend" and /msg ubottu help
[17:23] <matthew__> oops
[17:23] <matthew__> mixed messages
[17:23] <e23> Mnemonic^:  I enabled a bunch...actually going through the gui
[17:23] <Ahadiel> Mnemonic^, I'm not using Ubuntu right now, but I believe the *REAL* gui package manager is in one of the menus.
[17:23] <matthew__> anyone know what could be causing the "suspend" and "hibernate" options to cause major problems?
[17:24] <e23> I'm not on ubuntu at the moment, so I can't see the actual ones that I changed...but I made sure to enable the "Universal" repository
[17:24] <Mnemonic^> Ahadiel: I found it .. Thanks
[17:24] <adisback> hi all from france
[17:24] <RAdams> !doesntwork | matthew__
[17:24] <sparr> RAdams: but still, in my experience, incorrect.  i have a very deep dislike for people who say "use XXX" or "just google it" without first verifying that XXX is a valid solution, or that such a solution is explained on any page indexed by google.
[17:24] <Mnemonic^> e23, Where can I do that?
[17:24] <flea> matthew__: some boards just dont take suspend/hibernate well, its well known for some systems
[17:24] <RAdams> sparr: then I assure you, it is correct, and the answer is on google.
[17:24]  * e23 fires up an ubuntu VM
[17:24] <churl> anyone here ever use the firefox extention "FIRE-NES"?   i can't get the games to work "out-of-the-box" in linux but works fine in windows.  should i ask here or else were?
[17:25] <Ahadiel> Mnemonic^, System => Admin => Software Sources
[17:25] <Nitrogen_life> Hi, I'm trying to mount an iso file, but it will only let me mount it as root
[17:25] <ASULutzy> sparr: You asked the question, which app should I use to do x, soundray suggested app Y, what's the issue?
[17:25] <RAdams> churl: as I said, go to the page for that extension on addons.mozilla.org, and post a comment for the developer
[17:25] <matthew__> flea: Thats what I thought, but was hoping the answer was different. Any known solutions?
[17:25] <Nitrogen_life> Poplar:~$ mount -o loop CD101.iso /home/user/Games
[17:25] <Nitrogen_life> mount: only root can do that
[17:25] <Nitrogen_life> Any way to add myself to mount w/o root / sudo ?
[17:25] <sparr> ASULutzy: app Y doesnt do x, contrary to the claims of soundray and RAdams
[17:25] <jpds> Nitrogen_life: put "sudo" in front of the command.
[17:25] <flea> matthew__: sry, i just avoid it all together :/
[17:25] <adisback> hi, i'm new user of ubuntu, comin from windows, can i use this irc as i was doing with msn or another prog seems better?
[17:25] <Ahadiel> Nitrogen_life, Only if you add it to /etc/fstab
[17:25] <Nitrogen_life> jpds: right, but I don't want to run it as sudo
[17:26] <ASULutzy> sparr: Ok? then instead of being abusive, ask for other suggestions?
[17:26] <e23> Mnemonic^: that's right...Ubuntu comes with synaptic... I'm using xubuntu which is a little different
[17:26] <e23> Sorry
[17:26] <Nitrogen_life> Ahadiel: add what to /etc/fstab  ?
[17:26] <churl> RAdams, thanks, didnt see it! id been trying for a while in all this mess
[17:26] <RAdams> Mnemonic^: given you're a gentoo user, you would probably prefer synaptic, and hand-editing /etc/apt/sources.list for your repos. There is also a graphical Software Sources program
[17:26] <e23> (synaptic being the name of the package manager GUI)
[17:26] <matthew__> flea: I guess i'll just find a different way to speed up the boot process. Its taking longer than windows :(
[17:26] <RAdams> sparr: http://studio.imagemagick.org/pipermail/magick-users/2006-December/018899.html
[17:26] <td123> Nitrogen_life: the device you're trying to mount
[17:26] <Ahadiel> Nitrogen_life, Not sure exactly, but I'm sure someone made a tutorial somewhere.
[17:26] <Nitrogen_life> Ok
[17:26] <Mnemonic^> RAdams: Ok .. I will look into it..
[17:26] <LLMP> how do u download urban terror
[17:27] <RAdams> sparr: that was the first result on google for imagemagick tile animated gifs. if you're not going to bother looking for solutions, don't expect hand holding.
[17:27] <td123> Nitrogen_life: look for an article though, since it's not as easy as adding the line "/dev/sdb" :)
[17:27] <Nitrogen_life> alright
[17:27] <ASULutzy> sparr: Also, imagemagick does tile animated gifs, so now I really don't get what the problem is?
[17:27] <Mnemonic^> e23: RAdams, Does synaptics have more package sources, or is it the same repository?
[17:27] <sparr> RAdams: the popular definition of "tile" in graphics is "take many small images and combine them side by side into a larger image", not "cut a larger image into many smaller images"
[17:27] <Gumby> hi all, I've done and apt-get dist-upgrade and a few items are failing to install.  one is synaptic and the other is zenity.  Would anyone be able to have a quick look at a pastebin.  The apt-get dist-upgrade output is at http://pastebin.ca/1068227 and dpkg -i synaptic_0.61ubuntu9_i386.deb is http://pastebin.ca/1068227
[17:28] <sparr> RAdams: just because that one guy used "tile" in his filenames does not make it so
[17:28] <Invisionfree> rausb0: Change your nickname.
[17:28] <RAdams> sparr: one is the inverse of the other.
[17:28] <Doppp> when newer versions of Ubuntu are released, do we have to reformat and reinstall Ubuntu or can we just download the upgrade?
[17:28] <Gumby> The synaptic package was the most current one in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[17:28] <sparr> RAdams: yes, and the one youre using is chop/crop/repage, while the one im looking for is tile
[17:28] <patrik> Hi, how can I make gdm make use of lid close actions (put my laptop to sleep when I close the lid) just as it does when I'm logged in as a user?
[17:28] <Invisionfree> Doppp: You can update from System > Administration -> Update Manager
[17:28] <RAdams> Mnemonic^: all package utilities in ubuntu use the same set of sources
[17:29] <sparr> ASULutzy: on what are you basing your claim that IM can tile animated gifs?
[17:29] <Nitrogen_life> Hrmph
[17:29] <Nitrogen_life> Poplar:~/Games$ sudo wine Autorun.exe
[17:29] <Nitrogen_life> wine: /home/user/.wine is not owned by you
[17:29] <Nitrogen_life> :\
[17:29] <ufk_> after i enabled sslengine in my apache
[17:29] <ufk_> i can't start it.
[17:29] <Nitrogen_life> ufk_: try /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[17:29] <ufk_> how can i see the exact error message? it only says faild
[17:29] <ASULutzy> sparr: The fact that I can read?
[17:29] <Mnemonic^> RAdams: ok ..
[17:29] <sparr> ASULutzy: read what?
[17:29] <Mnemonic^> Thanks all .. I have to go ..
[17:29] <matthew__> Nitrogen_life: sudo chown -r /home/user/.wine
[17:30] <Nitrogen_life> Ok
[17:30] <majortool> can anyone recommend a ubuntu tutorial for tenured linux users?
[17:30] <RAdams> sparr: #imagemagick
[17:30] <rausb0> Hey guys, if I need to burn a 2.6GiB DVD, what do I use to do it and how can I be sure it'll work?
[17:30] <ufk_> Nitrogen_life, apache provides a 'fail' message.
[17:30] <flea> Nitrogen_life: because u sudo'd it
[17:30] <ASULutzy> sparr: We've tried to help you, you can choose to take our advice or not. This channel is for ubuntu support, if you want imagemagick support, join another channel.
[17:30] <RAdams> rausb0: you can use nautilus itself, assuming you're just burning data.
[17:30] <Nitrogen_life> flea: yea, because I had to mount the ISO file as sudo
[17:30] <sparr> RAdams: nice join/part.  did you bother to stop and notice that im already there?
[17:30] <flea> ah
[17:31] <rausb0> RAdams: .ISO
[17:31] <monostone> ufk_: look in /var/log/apache2/
[17:31] <RAdams> sparr: then post on their forums.
[17:31] <sparr> ASULutzy: i dont want imagemagick support, because imagemagick cant do what im trying to do.  i want a suggestion of a piece of software that can, preferably one available in ubuntu
[17:31] <ASULutzy> !patience | sparr
[17:31] <RAdams> rausb0: the dvd will contain data, not a dvd movie meant to play in dvd video players, correct?
[17:31] <trakinas> sparr and what you want to do??? to tile 2 animated gifs?
[17:31] <sparr> ASULutzy: thanks for being as obscure as possible though.  "because i can read" is a LOT more helpful than "because i can read ______[location of thing you are reading]_____"
[17:31] <rausb0> RAdams: Yeah, consider it .. a 2.6GiB Ubuntu install cd :>
[17:31] <flea> sparr: sf.net, freshmeat.net -- you can still compile software thats not part of ubuntu repo's
[17:31] <sparr> trakinas: more than 2, but sure, 2 would be a start
[17:31] <chad_> hmmm...
[17:32] <RAdams> rausb0: ok, nautilus can do it
[17:32] <rausb0> RAdams: Mmk, steps?
[17:32] <RAdams> rausb0: open the blank dvd and drag the files you want in there. or if you have an iso you're burning already, right click on the iso and select "Burn to Disk" or so
[17:32] <chad_> i know this might sound unhelpful, but what makes Ubuntu better than other free OS's?
[17:32] <sparr> ASULutzy: when i say "tile" i do not mean "cut into tiles", i mean the same thing everyone else who has ever used the word means, that is "combine small tiles into one large image"
[17:32] <ASULutzy> sparr: No problem, if you have any other questions related to Ubuntu support, feel free to ask, otherwise join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:33] <ASULutzy> !ot | sparr
[17:33] <Gumby> is anyone having issues with the current hardy synaptics package?  It wont install for me whether I use apt or dpkg.
[17:33] <sparr> awww, offended that i pointed out your rudeness?  how cute
[17:33] <trakinas> sparr: http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/anim_mods/index.html -- it is a start
[17:33] <ASULutzy> !ops | sparr abusive, again.
[17:34] <flea> sparr: of 1290 users on this channel, Y you must try so hard to be 'that guy'
[17:34] <jpds> flea: He/she's gone.
[17:34] <lakshmanan> how should i register with #ubuntu channel
[17:35] <lakshmanan> ﻿how should i register with #ubuntu channel
[17:35] <lakshmanan> ﻿how should i register with #ubuntu channel
[17:35] <lakshmanan> ﻿how should i register with #ubuntu channel
[17:35]  * rausb0 thinks about !ops
[17:35] <flea> not like that
[17:35] <ASULutzy> lakshmanan: don't spam first off
[17:35] <matthew__> isn't calling the ops trigger a bit over kill for one person? I mean, abuse isn't really an emergency?
[17:35] <Shoopuf> How do I install mouse cursor themes? I got a .tar.gz file here with a "cursors" folder and an "index.theme" file in it
[17:35] <flea> its saving us from what they are about to do
[17:36] <ASULutzy> lakshmanan: /msg NickServ register
[17:36] <Sertse> hi all newb question. editing my shortcuts etc. what the thing I do so it automatically maximises the window
[17:36] <Sertse> when I click the shortcut?
[17:36] <dazjorz> Hey.
[17:37] <Sertse> hi
[17:37] <St0rm> hi
[17:37] <lakshmanan> ASULutzy: i dont get u
[17:37] <El_Matthews> ﻿/msg ubottu etiquette
[17:38] <monostone> lakshmanan: you where pointed the command to input in order to achieve your goal. Type what was said
[17:38] <ASULutzy> lakshmanan: Hmm? In order to register with #ubuntu, just /msg NickServ register <A password for the name you are registering>
[17:39] <newbee617> i want to reinstall mplayer, how to do that?
[17:40] <unop> newbee617, sudo aptitude reinstall mplayer
[17:40] <monostone> or apt-get install --reinstall mplayer
[17:40] <lakshmanan> monostone: where should i type the command
[17:40] <nalioth> stylus: you about?
[17:40] <unop> lakshmanan, in your client's window
[17:40] <flea> i .. lost for words
[17:40] <Soulwarp> lakshmanan: in the IRC client
[17:40] <monostone> lakshmanan: type it directly where you are writing your posts
[17:41] <lakshmanan> ﻿/msg NickServ register<mylifeisgood>
[17:41] <_law> lakshmanan: Saji??
[17:41] <El_Matthews> I have a problem with the sound of my tv card (wintv-go). Can somebody help me out?
[17:41] <Shoopuf> Is gcursor unstable?
[17:41] <flea> troll in house
[17:42] <lakshmanan> monostone: nothing happens..
[17:42] <unop> lakshmanan, what client are you using? pidgin?
[17:42] <flea> lakshmanan: allow 4-6 weeks delivery of your registration by mail
[17:42] <unop> flea, don't antagonize him, it's not necessart
[17:42] <unop> necessary*
[17:43] <flea> i need some of the ops' patience pills
[17:43] <newbee617> great , reinstall is quick and , it has made my mplayer work properly.
[17:43] <Shoopuf> How do I install mouse cursors? I tried a walkthrough from Google but Gcursor didn't work.
[17:43] <Soulwarp> newbee617: congrats
[17:43] <mbrigdan> lakshmanan: the command also must have an email after it, don't know if that will help in this case though (/msg NickServ your-password your-email)
[17:44] <jack-desktop> will anything bad happen if i remove "tracker" and "tracker-search-tool" packages?
[17:44] <unop> mbrigdan, the email field is optional
[17:44] <flea> jack-desktop: no, if there are dependancies, it will tell you
[17:44] <RAdams> jack-desktop: other than losing tracker, no
[17:44] <unop> jack-desktop, other packages that depend on tracker or it's libraries might fail -- but you should be warned about them if you attempt to remove tracker
[17:44] <monostone> mbrigdan: it seems that his client isnt accepting / to initiate commands
[17:44] <maszlo> can someone recommend a commandline bin/cue app to burn a dvd?
[17:45] <RAdams> shoopuf: usually, moving the files to /usr/share/cursors and then a restart of X. or are you creating from scratch? nose around /usr/share/cursors
[17:45] <worstsofa> Hello
[17:45] <St0rm> hello
[17:45] <unop> monostone, pidgin is notorious for that
[17:45] <windmill> You know ubuntu comes in i368 version... Why is it still compiled to support processors from 1986?
[17:45] <mbrigdan> unop: Its not optional, I just registered my name, and it sends an email to confirm the address
[17:45] <ikonia> windmill: it's not
[17:45] <monostone> maszlo: have you tried wodim
[17:45] <ikonia> windmill: it's generic x86
[17:45] <_Brun0_>  what compiler should I use for this code: http://www.keithv.com/3dpath/spline.cpp ?
[17:46] <Soulwarp> maszlo: dvdauthor is a good one
[17:46] <unop> mbrigdan, when i registered, i opted not to use my email address and left that field blank
[17:46] <windmill> ikonia, so why is it called that?
[17:46] <ikonia> _Brun0_: gcc is the standard open source compiler
[17:46] <mbrigdan> unop: this is a quote from 5 minutes ago: >nickserv< register matthew
[17:46] <mbrigdan> -NickServ- Insufficient parameters for REGISTER.
[17:46] <mbrigdan>  Syntax: REGISTER <password> <email>
[17:46] <maszlo> I haven't tried anything.. have a process going on devede and stuck a dvdr in want to have it burnt when I get home lol
[17:46] <jack-desktop> why doesn't my window manager turn activate on start up? i have to enable it everytime
[17:46] <Blaise> Is there a way for Gedit to ask me to enter my password when I want to save a protected file, instead of me having to open it through the terminal with sudo?
[17:46] <maszlo> I will look at it now.. thanks
[17:46] <ikonia> windmill: thre is a 386 kernel of older spec machines, but the OS is generic x86
[17:46] <mbrigdan> unop: They must have changed it since you registered
[17:47] <flea> jack-desktop: put it in ~/.xinitrc
[17:47] <ikonia> !register | mbrigdan
[17:47] <El_Matthews> can somebody tell me if this is the right place for support issues installing a wintv-go card and if not where can I find help?
[17:47] <ikonia> mbrigdan: please read that link
[17:47] <Soulwarp> maszlo: here is some documentation on how to use it http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html
[17:47] <maszlo> Soulwarp: you can start the burn from command line or it is for making the bin/cue?
[17:47] <ikonia> El_Matthews: if your struggling on ubuntu, we are here to help
[17:47] <Tallken> mbrigdan, you better not be using your name for password xD
[17:47] <lakshmanan> _law:  what is saji?
[17:47] <windmill> ikonia, but doesn't gcc limit iprocessor instructions to those that existed on the 386 (in the kernel at least)
[17:47] <mbrigdan> Tallken: hehe, oops, time to change that
[17:47] <ikonia> windmill: gcc is not 386
[17:47] <jack-desktop> flea: what does that mean
[17:47] <Tallken> mbrigdan, :)
[17:48] <El_Matthews> hello ﻿ikonia, I have a wintv-go card but don't get any sound out of it when watching tv chipset = bt878
[17:48] <Soulwarp> maszlo: im not sure about bin/cue but it will make a DVD structure
[17:48] <_Brun0_> ikonia: gcc suports graphics.h? i think that is for turbo c or something.
[17:48] <windmill> ikonia, I don't know what you mean by that
[17:48] <ikonia> _Brun0_: thats just a header
[17:48] <ikonia> windmill: gcc is not compiled with arc=386
[17:48] <jack-desktop> flea: compiz starts on startup, and shouldn't that start emerald for me? I also tried putting "emerald --replace" in my sessions thing, but that fails to work too.
[17:48] <maszlo> Soulwarp: I have the structure.. just don't have access to the computer until after 5.. looking to start the burn through ssh
[17:48] <windmill> ikonia, ok, but the kernel is
[17:48] <rausb0> Alright guys, I have a small problem - I try to burn this DVD, and it's a DVD-R, but it's not being detected by Ubuntu - Why?
[17:49] <ikonia> windmill: no, there is a 386 version, but the default is "generic"
[17:49] <Blaise> Hi there, is someone able to help me with a question about using Gedit?
[17:49] <flea> jack-desktop: sounds like your compiz wrapper script isnt starting emerald
[17:49] <RAdams> !someone | Blaise
[17:49] <c_lisp> if you asked the question maybe blaise
[17:49] <c_lisp> :p
[17:49] <Soulwarp> maszlo: oh i see what you mean
[17:49] <Soulwarp> maszlo: let me look it up
[17:49] <Blaise> Is there a way for Gedit to ask me to enter my password when I want to save a protected file, instead of me having to open it through the terminal with sudo?
[17:50] <failure> is there anyway to throttle my bandwidth?
[17:50] <ikonia> Blaise: no
[17:50] <aditsharda> Guys, I just installed hardy heron on my system. How can i play games using Wine ??
[17:50] <windmill> ikonia, ahhh I see, so the generic kernel is compiled with all the fancy new instructions turned on
[17:50] <Blaise> by protected file I mean something I need to be an admin for, like xorg.conf
[17:50] <failure> im downloading at 8MB/sec and my Net admin isnt liking htat very much
[17:50] <ikonia> windmill: you get it generic = x86
[17:50] <mbrigdan> ikonia: there is nothing in that link that shows me that an email is optional during registration. Just so you know...
[17:50] <ikonia> mbrigdan: then talk to freenod
[17:50] <c_lisp> you can give it root premission blaise or your and change the file presmission
[17:50] <ikonia> freenode
[17:50] <midwestward> how can i enable multiverse downloads on my ubuntu server? there is nothing to comment out in the sources.list file
[17:50] <Blaise> shame Textmate does this
[17:50] <c_lisp> gksudo gedit filename
[17:51] <ikonia> mbrigdan: registration is nothing to do with ubuntu, so talk to freenode
[17:51] <rausb0> Alright guys, I have a small problem - I try to burn this DVD, and it's a DVD-R, but it's not being detected by Ubuntu - Why?
[17:51] <windmill> ikonia, so if I tried to run the current hardy kernel on a 386 would it fail?
[17:51] <mbrigdan> ikonia: all I did was point out that you need an email to register, I didn't say that I minded
[17:51] <ikonia> windmill: not sure actually, it would probably boot as it's generic, but you'd be better of with i386
[17:51] <ikonia> mbrigdan: but the ubuntu channel is not the place to point that out
[17:51] <Blaise> c_lisp, yeah the problem is, sometimes I want to open my file using Nautilus
[17:51] <sidelil> hello everybody. I've got an HP all in one printer-scanner-copier and the scanning was working with flegita, now it's not working anymore, because it cant find the device. Do you know why? Through the HP device manager it's fine, but not with flegita anymore!!! Thanks
[17:51] <ikonia> mbrigdan: registration is nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:52] <Here_to_chat> i am new here and i need some help
[17:52] <rhilton> I'm having trouble making deskbar plugins work.  I put the wayd py file (http://www.butterfat.net/wiki/Projects/DeskbarPlugins) in the .gnome2/deskbar-applet/modules-2.20-compatible/ dir, but it doesn't show up to enable it in preferences
[17:52] <RAdams> blaise: there is a package called nautlius-gksu
[17:52] <ikonia> Here_to_chat: welcome, ask your question please.
[17:52] <rausb0> Alright guys, I have a small problem - I try to burn this DVD, and it's a DVD-R, but it's not being detected by Ubuntu - Why??...
[17:52] <mbrigdan> ikonia: they were trying to help someone register with the server, i wanted to point out something they were missing
[17:52] <RAdams> nautilus*
[17:52] <Soulwarp> maszlo: growisofs -speed=1 -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video /path/to/your/dvd/structure/files
[17:52] <ubunubi> thank god for backups :) i inadvertently found a fantastic way to irreversibly f* up a filesytem :P
[17:52] <c_lisp> blaise you and copy shortcut to gedit and in the propery put gksudo gedit &
[17:52] <Here_to_chat> i need to know how to install my USB modem : sppedtouch 330
[17:52] <c_lisp> and you can name is sudo gedit or whatever u like
[17:52] <ikonia> ubunubi: if you can't say something without swearing - don't speak
[17:52] <Here_to_chat> i am having a bit of trouble with it
[17:52] <jack-desktop> flea: how can i fix my "compiz wrapper script"?
[17:53] <Soulwarp> maszlo: that with the -dvd-video command will tell the burner to cread a dvd dvid
[17:53] <Guiri> Can someone help me get ntop working correctly? It's installed and running as a daemon but not accesible by the web
[17:53] <c_lisp> right click add it to your panel and right click properties
[17:53] <rausb0> Alright guys, I have a small problem - I try to burn this DVD, and it's a DVD-R, but it's not being detected by Ubuntu - Why??...
[17:53] <ubunubi> ikonia: relax. i didn't say anything out of line
[17:53] <Soulwarp> maszlo: dvd vid even
[17:53] <maszlo> Soulwarp: its going to be in bin/cue already.  this mean I have to convert It back out?
[17:53] <Soulwarp> maszlo: oh it's in bin/cue already....
[17:53] <c_lisp> or you could add it as a nautilus script right clicking on the desktop and loading it that way in a bash file
[17:53] <bastones> I'm still having problems with my ADVENT 9415 laptop apparently my Realtek wireless card is supported by Ubuntu but obviously I can't connect with wired (ethernet / USB) and I have seen other topics with same type of problem. Is there anything in terminal that can fix the problem as I really want to move to Ubuntu permanently.
[17:53] <bastones> Wireless Card: Realtek RTL8187B
[17:53] <ikonia> ubunubi: "irreversibly f* up a filesytem" is not acceptable - you didn't need to star out the F word
[17:53] <bastones> Not sure if I need ndiswrapper but since it already has native support not sure if it'll make any difference...
[17:54] <El_Matthews> ﻿ikonia you seem very busy, anybody experience with a wintv-go card (bt878)?
[17:54] <maszlo> Soulwarp: yeah..  I checked modim, seems that its support of bin/cue is not great
[17:54] <newbee617> if i compile and install a software, how can i remove it?
[17:54] <ikonia> El_Matthews: apologies, I'm with you now,
[17:54] <ikonia> El_Matthews: your having sound issues ?
[17:54] <Guiri> I'd really appreciate it if anybody is famliar with ntop
[17:54] <ikonia> newbee617: rm the files
[17:54] <ubunubi> ikonia:: chill out. f* could stand for foobar. get a grip
[17:54] <rausb0> Alright guys, I have a small problem - I try to burn this DVD, and it's a DVD-R, but it's not being detected by Ubuntu - Why??...
[17:54] <El_Matthews> indeed tv-sound doesn't work the rest of sound is ok
[17:54] <ikonia> ubunubi: but it doesn't - you didn't need to use it, please don't
[17:54] <unop> newbee617, using the make uninstall command from within the source directory
[17:54] <RAdams> !patience | rausb0
[17:54] <jordan_cbr> hi
[17:54] <Here_to_chat> any one please
[17:54] <St0rm> iknia , ubunub   : get a life
[17:55] <RAdams> rausb0, are you having any other issues with discs being read from this drive?
[17:55] <gokul> anybody here can help me with c++ compiling n running on anjuta.. i dunno anythin im a complete newbiew to ubuntu
[17:55] <RAdams> !anyone | Here_to_chat
[17:55] <ikonia> St0rm: please respect the channel rules
[17:55] <jordan_cbr> anyone kown how to shutdown devices? cut the power.....
[17:55] <rausb0> RAdams: It's sorta always had trouble detecting it ...
[17:55] <ikonia> El_Matthews: what application are you actually using to watch TV
[17:55] <RAdams> rausb0: any disc at all, or just dvd-rs?
[17:55] <LLMP> how do u exit the conky and edit it
[17:55] <c_lisp> sorry I use g++ to compile my c++ never used anjuta
[17:55] <El_Matthews> I tested it with TV-Time, MythTV and XawTV$
[17:55] <monostone> jordan_cbr: do you mean sudo shutdown -h now?
[17:55] <rausb0> RAdams: Any blank disk
[17:55] <ikonia> El_Matthews: same thing with all applications
[17:56] <St0rm> ikonia : don't take it personal
[17:56] <RAdams> rausb0: lshw | grep -i dvd
[17:56] <Here_to_chat> i am trying to install my usb modem : spped youch and i don't know how?
[17:56] <Soulwarp> maszlo: i would think you would have to mount it then run the previous command
[17:56] <rhilton> is there any way i could debug deskbar to figure out why it's not loading files in the right directory into the list of plugins i can enable?
[17:56] <El_Matthews> indeed, I still have a dual boot with 7.04 and there I have sound with my tv-card
[17:56] <jordan_cbr> monostone, no. cut the device power. Like windows does with usb drives when they are removed
[17:56] <Soulwarp> maszlo: i may be wrong
[17:56] <Here_to_chat> does anyone knows how to install  usb modem : spped touch ?
[17:56] <newbee617> unop:  will simply rm the files bring negative effects to the os? like windows?
[17:56] <gokul>  anybody here can help me with c++ compiling n running on anjuta.. i dunno anythin im a complete newbiew to ubuntu
[17:56] <Webspot> Recently, I've been having problems with my mouse. Ocassionly, it goes mad and whizzes around the screen and clicking random places. In dmesg I have [  317.396890] psmouse.c: Explorer Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away. Any ideas?
[17:57] <Soulwarp> maszlo: having never tested this myself i suggest restating your question in chat for further assistance
[17:57] <monostone> jordan_cbr: unmount the usb device
[17:57] <maszlo> Soulwarp: I think I might have to do something else as well, to get it to an iso so I can use modim... this looks promising  bchunk IMAGE.bin IMAGE.cue IMAGE.iso
[17:57] <RAdams> Webspot: hi, you have my problem. boot with acpi=off passed to the kernel and tell me if it goes away
[17:57] <maszlo> Soulwarp: never herd of bchunk
[17:57] <ikonia> El_Matthews: thats interesting so you have sound in 7.04, but not 8.04
[17:57] <Guiri> essentially /etc/init.d/ntop start starts it with a series of commands but NOT the -W 3000 for the web interface
[17:57] <Webspot> RAdams: I'll try that out now.
[17:57] <jordan_cbr> monostone, but the device is still on. I want it to turnoff
[17:57] <Here_to_chat> anyone can help me installing my USBmodem : Speed touch 330 ?
[17:57] <bastones> anyone else having problems with Ubuntu and ADVENT 9415?
[17:57] <Guiri> Any advice?
[17:58] <eek_> hi all
[17:58] <El_Matthews> indeed (sorry 7.10) - I loaded the modules BT_audio etc but nothing hlped
[17:58] <rausb0> RAdams: Read the PM
[17:58] <maszlo> Soulwarp: thanks for the help.. will give these commands a chance then ask again if it's a failure
[17:58] <eek_>  I recentlysudo apt-get install irssi
[17:58] <RAdams> rausb0: do it as sudo.
[17:58] <Soulwarp> maszlo: good luck, i hope you achieve your goal
[17:58] <c_lisp> gokul I think you still have to compile it with g++ anjunta is just a ide
[17:59] <Oli```> how do I find which /dev/* relates to a certain usb device? I know the USB details (from lsusb) but I need the path
[17:59] <monostone> jordan_cbr: is it a USB drive? unmounting it is all that is needed, ubuntu does not power off the device
[17:59] <ubunubi> if i hibernate my system, then boot into a LiveCD...how can i keep the system from reading from the hibernate image on reboot?
[17:59] <bastones> I'm still having problems with my ADVENT 9415 laptop apparently my Realtek wireless card is supported by Ubuntu but obviously I can't connect with wired (ethernet / USB) and I have seen other topics with same type of problem. Is there anything in terminal that can fix the problem as I really want to move to Ubuntu permanently.
[17:59] <ikonia> El_Matthews: o, so 7.10 it works, 8.04 it's not on
[17:59] <monostone> jordan_cbr: it is safe to remove even though the light is still on
[17:59] <bastones> Realtek RTL8187B
[17:59] <gokul> olrite this mite be stupidest question..but how do i compile it wid g++ ? open termina go to src directory and den wt ?
[17:59] <Blaise> RAdams, thanks that looks like just what I need
[17:59] <c_lisp> yes open the terminal then g++ helloworld.cpp
[17:59] <eek_> can anybody help me get ownership on a partion of my drive w/o erasing it?
[18:00] <jordan_cbr> monostone, no isnt a usbdrive its a pcmcia device
[18:00] <c_lisp> or g++ -i mybincaryname helloworld.cpp
[18:00] <gokul> c_lisp: hang on il try
[18:00] <ubunubi> eek_: what kind of partition
[18:00] <ikonia> eek_: what's up
[18:00] <c_lisp> I mean't -o
[18:00] <El_Matthews> I already unmuted all sounds but nothing happens, can it be due to pulseaudio?
[18:00] <gokul> wil this work for both c n c++ ?
[18:00] <c_lisp> yes I would use gcc for c programs
[18:00] <maszlo> lol I have a general question.. when did ubuntu stop using /dev/hda1  layout and got all to /dev/sda1 type.. I thought it was comfusing my ide for serial
[18:00] <ikonia> El_Matthews: thats possible, thats a significant change in 8.04, and from what I'm reading the driver has not changed much.
[18:00] <ikonia> maszlo: 7.04
[18:00] <Here_to_chat> !anyone
[18:01] <rausb0> RAdams: PMed.
[18:01] <c_lisp> but g++ should be able to compile c sources to if its just c
[18:01] <El_Matthews> ikonia: I installed alsamixer to unmute everything. that should have solved it?
[18:01] <Shoopuf> El_Matthews: Open a terminal and type "alsamixer" and tell me what it says
[18:01] <ikonia> El_Matthews: I mean the driver has not changed much betern 7.10 and 8.04
[18:01] <ubunubi> maszlo: s stands for scsi..and the new libata library classifies some drives differently now
[18:01] <Here_to_chat> !any one help me installing my usb modem
[18:01] <c_lisp> you might  have to install g++ if you don't have it installed
[18:01] <eek_> ubunubi ikonia I installed heron over my fawn, but made a new root partition cause i was afraid of deleting my data now i have no permissions over my old partition
[18:01] <Webspot> RAdams: Restarted with acpi=off. Will just have to wait a while to see if the problem occurs again. acpi=off isn't a great solution though, is it? I can't standby anymore :p
[18:01] <ikonia> El_Matthews: depends on, as you suggest a problem with pulse
[18:01] <Here_to_chat> anyone help me installing my usb modem
[18:01] <ArrPirate> I need some help. I got an error 17 when GRUB tries to boot this computer's ubuntu install. Says 'can't mount' and an error 17
[18:01] <gokul> c_lisp: okay how to run the exe ?
[18:01] <ikonia> El_Matthews: is there anything obvious in your syslog ?
[18:01] <ikonia> El_Matthews: or anything like a moan in dmesg ?
[18:01] <c_lisp> ./a.out or ./yourfilename
[18:01] <gokul> a.out or somethin na?
[18:01] <El_Matthews> ikonia: Brooktree bt878
[18:01] <Here_to_chat> please help me installing my usb modem : speed touch 330 ?
[18:01] <ikonia> El_Matthews: nothing else ?
[18:02] <ikonia> El_Matthews: as in nothing moaning, warning, complaining
[18:02] <monostone> jordan_cbr: have you tried:  pccardctl eject
[18:02] <maszlo> ikonia: lol I upgraded from that to 8.04 the other day.. it was acting crazying couldn't mount a ext3 drive for the life of me.. just did a clean install since I have everything divided up so much
[18:02] <ubunubi> eek_: you could  sudo chown -hR yourusername /dev/XhX
[18:02] <ikonia> ubunubi: no
[18:02] <ikonia> ubunubi: thats not the command
[18:02] <ikonia> eek please ignore that command
[18:02] <pytechd> Has anyone seen problems with Compiz under 8.04 where viewport switching stops working periodically (I have it set to click on the left edge to flip left, bottom, right, etc)?
[18:02] <ikonia> ubunubi: you don't change ownership of device files
[18:02] <eek_> ubunubi ikonia why
[18:02] <zetagi_> any ideas where i have to copy gnubg's (0.90) bearoff databases?
[18:03] <PaulM> Hey guys, ive got a pretty big problem
[18:03] <PaulM> I think
[18:03] <ikonia> eek_: you need to change ownership of the file system - not the device file
[18:03] <ubunubi> eek_ : eh wathever replace /dev/XhX with the mountpoint instead
[18:03] <monostone> jordan_cbr:  pccardctl eject [socket]
[18:03] <Here_to_chat> so ikonia can you help me
[18:03] <dusty> Hey guys I am trying to add a crontab entry that will run every 10 minutes.  As root I edited /etc/crontab and added the following line: */10  * * * * 	root 	/usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -config=awstats.stoned-hacker.co.uk.conf -update >/dev/null  - waiting tailing -f /var/log/auth.log and after ten minutes nothing happened, checked awstats and it hadn't been updated.  If I run that command from cron manually it updates, how
[18:03] <dusty> come its not running the default ubuntu crons run from that file fine ?
[18:03] <rausb0> RAdams: ?
[18:03] <El_Matthews> ikonia: no nothing else but I have TV Tuner/CAPTUR in red
[18:03] <Oli```> How do I find the /dev/... path of a USB device?
[18:03] <ikonia> El_Matthews: where is it in red
[18:03] <ikonia> Oli```: check the syslog when you plug it in
[18:03] <RAdams> Webspot: nope, terrible solution, great debugger. here's what I know; you're losing sync with the touchpad because the interrupt handler is blocking input, which is why your mouse and keyboard stop responding and the display doesn't update during the freezes. it has something to do with information being passed from your b43 chipset about networks detection. i'll know more when I recompile the kernel with acpi debugging and traces on
[18:03] <eek_> ikonia how do i replace ownership if i have no permissions?
[18:03] <ikonia> Oli```: such say something like "attaching to /dev/sdb"
[18:04] <ikonia> eek_: use sudo
[18:04] <El_Matthews> ikonia: the name is in red
[18:04] <Oli```> will do ikonia - awesome thanks
[18:04] <ikonia> eek_: eg: sudo chown -R youruser:yourgroup /mnt/filesystem
[18:04] <PaulM> I had an XP and Ubuntu 8.04 dual boot running, and XP had to be reinstalled, so I formatted the NTFS partition with GParted in Ubuntu, then rebooted into the XP install cd, installed xp, and now, Grub doesnt appear on boot, my pc just boots right into XP
[18:04] <PaulM> What can I do to fix this?
[18:04] <ikonia> El_Matthews: where, as in where are you looking that it's in red
[18:04] <c_lisp> Oli its probably in your /etc/fstab if its auto mounted
[18:04] <rausb0> RAdams: See PM
[18:04] <ikonia> !grub > PaulM
[18:04] <Here_to_chat> HELP
[18:05] <PaulM> <3 ikonia
[18:05] <El_Matthews> ikonia: sorry I meant in alsamixer as you resuested, there the name is in red
[18:05] <ikonia> !patience | Here_to_chat
[18:05] <PaulM> thanks man
[18:05] <Here_to_chat> ok
[18:05] <ikonia> El_Matthews: ahhh I see
[18:05] <Here_to_chat> i will wait
[18:05] <ikonia> El_Matthews: not sure if thats valid, not a massive knowledge on alsamixer
[18:05] <kyper> guys im using the radeon driver with xorg using two screens on a dual headed ati card. It works fine except the mouse pointer is all garbled on one screen.... any ideas?
[18:06] <chamunks> does anyone know how to recover your information from the nickserv?
[18:06] <gokul> c_lisp: its not workin.. i tried the hello world prog..the output doesnt come
[18:06] <chamunks> I cant remember my password for the life of me.
[18:06] <ikonia> chamunks: join #freenode and ask for help
[18:06] <eek_> ikonia when i ls my Desktop the drive doesnt show up but it sits on the destop gui?? wtf? what am i doing wrong to term into it?
[18:06] <c_lisp> what it do gokul?
[18:06] <El_Matthews> ikonia: what can I do about it, I have posted a question on launchpad, opened a case on the forums but no answer. I am getting quite despered
[18:07] <gokul> c_lisp: absolutely nothing
[18:07] <ikonia> eek_: ok - clam down, please avoid using phrases like WTF
[18:07] <ikonia> eek_: the drive is not mounted on your desktop - thats just a link
[18:07] <eek_> sorry
[18:07] <gokul> c_lisp: you wan't me to copy paste or send u a scrshot ?
[18:07] <RAdams> rausb0: do you have a windows partition you can test your drive in? it may be a hardware issue?
[18:07] <c_lisp> pastebin me your sourceocde
[18:07] <c_lisp> sourcecode
[18:07] <ikonia> El_Matthews: I appriciate that, I'm just having a little look into the device and pulse, as I suspect your right and pulse is the issue here, but how/why I don't know yet
[18:07] <c_lisp> www.pastebin.org
[18:07] <ikonia> El_Matthews: TV cards are a bit tricky normally with the audio and visual interface on one device
[18:08] <metalpres> does anyone know if linux will ever have decent flash playback?  i was using gutsy with FF2 and Flash 9 and pretty much every other video would cause FF to lockup and crash,  now im using hardy with FF3 and Flash 10 beta and im still having the exact same problem, how can nothing have been fixed
[18:08] <RAdams> metalpres: uname -r?
[18:08] <ikonia> metalpres: flash is not open source, contact adobe if you want the answer to your first question
[18:08] <El_Matthews> ikonia: ok, thanks for the help
[18:08] <ikonia> metalpres: gnash is coming along, but it's slow
[18:08] <ubunubi> metalpres: with a fresh hardy install, and FF2 and FF3, flash exhibits no issues on my machine. did you do an upgrade from gutsy?
[18:09] <rausb0> RAdams: So far, I've not had a problem with Vista.
[18:09] <nixnoob> ikonia: the new adobe flash betas are pretty good.
[18:09] <metalpres> no, clean install
[18:09] <newbee617> when compile pidgin 2.4.3 , by typing ./configure a erroe occoured , something about x11 screen saver .  i have posted the error at http://pastebin.com/d2500b3ad. can anyone give me some advice?
[18:09] <gokul> c_lisp : here u go http://www.pastebin.org/50298
[18:09] <ikonia> El_Matthews: there have been reported issues with pulse locking out devices
[18:09] <ikonia> nixnoob: for some people yes, for some people no
[18:09] <ikonia> newbee617: why are you compiling pidgin
[18:09] <metalpres> ubunubi: do you use compiz?
[18:09] <ikonia> newbee617: pidgin is available in the ubuntu repos
[18:09] <El_Matthews> ikonia: can I remove pulse as a test?
[18:10] <newbee617> ikonia:  but i want pidgin 2.4.3
[18:10] <ikonia> El_Matthews: I don't see why not
[18:10] <geek_inn2> i created fonts folder,.fonts in home dir but desktop fonts wont change
[18:10] <ikonia> newbee617: why ?
[18:10] <ikonia> newbee617: what's in it you want
[18:10] <ubunubi> metalpres: sometimes. i have it disabled most of the time so i can run games. but i have had no problems with flash while compizfusion was loaded
[18:10] <RAdams> rausb0: it may be an issue with your specific drive. try googling around for your drive and ubuntu can't read dvd-rs or so. I did some searching, but others haven't seemed to have this problem. also, see what the output of dmesg is when you pop a dvd-r in.
[18:10] <rausb0> RAdams: How do I see that?
[18:10] <c_lisp> that link didn't come up send it agian
[18:10] <geek_inn2> hey i have little problem
[18:10] <geek_inn2> i created fonts folder,.fonts in home dir but desktop fonts wont change
[18:10] <newbee617> ikonia:  really . by apt-get install pidgin i can only get 2.4.1
[18:10] <YouKnowMeDontLie> does anyone know how to set up a WWAN card on ubuntu?
[18:10] <ikonia> newbee617: why do you want a different version
[18:11] <newbee617> ikonia: which repos u mean
[18:11] <ikonia> geek_inn2: you need to update your font cache
[18:11] <RAdams> geek_inn2: rebuild the fonts cache "sudo fc-cache -f -v"
[18:11] <ikonia> newbee617: why do you want a later version
[18:11] <RAdams> rausb0: run dmesg in terminal.
[18:11] <metalpres> is there somewhere i could get a log file or crash report or something to find out what caused the crash?
[18:11] <RAdams> rausb0 do that after you put a dvd-r in
[18:11] <trakinas> anyone can help me with ssh?
[18:11] <newbee617> ikonia: because the older version has some problems with the qq plugin
[18:11] <ikonia> trakinas: what's up
[18:11] <RAdams> metalpres: what crashed? firefox?
[18:11] <metalpres> maybe if I could figure out what was causing the crashes it could be diagnosed better
[18:11] <rausb0> RAdams: dmesg | cat dvd?
[18:12] <rausb0> er..
[18:12] <rockenrola1> trakinas: what is the problem?
[18:12] <RAdams> !anyone | trakinas
[18:12] <rausb0> RAdams: dmesg | grep -i dvd *?
[18:12] <ikonia> newbee617: qq plugin, one moment
[18:12] <newbee617> something like aim , msn
[18:12] <metalpres> RAdams: firefox while playing flash content
[18:12] <RAdams> rausb0: just dmesg, look at the end of it, there could be seemingly unrelated errors there, so grepping it eliminates what you might need
[18:12] <Jasperus> anyone know what time 8.10 alpha 2 is being released today?
[18:12] <chamunks> If i were to look for help trying to get my ~/.bash_aliases file working where would i go?
[18:12] <trakinas> ikonia: keep getting that the server wasnt able to load the keys
[18:12] <RAdams> Jasperus: #ubuntu+1
[18:12] <CodddEr> there is open source free program that can create and edir PDF files ?
[18:12] <Jasperus> sorry
[18:13] <trakinas> ikonia: the keys are there.
[18:13] <Webspot> RAdams: It just went crazy again. Turning ACPI off didn't work :(
[18:13] <rausb0> RAdams: I'll pastebin a large chunk of it for you
[18:14] <rausb0> RAdams: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26495/
[18:14] <rockenrola1> chamunks: what is the problem with .bash_aliases ?
[18:14] <olsnbabz> Hello. I've installed the ubuntu restricted drivers, and when i go to youtube, i can see the movie, but not hear it. how can i fix it? I use version 8.04
[18:14] <trakinas> i think they were properly created...
[18:14] <ArrPirate> how can I fix an error 17 when I try to boot up my computer
[18:14] <ArrPirate> ?
[18:14] <RAdams> olsnbabz: what's the output of uname -r for you?
[18:14] <zhangchipku> !irssi
[18:14] <olsnbabz> Iam new to ubuntu What do you mean RAdams?
[18:14] <RAdams> Webspot: make/model of your computer?
[18:14] <rockenrola1> trakinas: how about deleting the old and getting new keys
[18:14] <gokul> ArrPirate : i had the same problem , i edited my grub file ...also run some commands on the terminal
[18:14] <chamunks> rockenrola1, Changes I make to the file seemingly have no effect in either .bashrc or .bash_aliases which I uncommented the reference in .bashrc
[18:15] <CodddEr> there is open source free program that can create and edir PDF files ?
[18:15] <trakinas> rockenrola1: the "old" are the new ones.
[18:15] <grimrider> hey guys
[18:15] <RAdams> olsnbabz: open a terminal and type uname -r
[18:15] <trakinas> rockenrola1: anyway, lemme try
[18:15] <gokul> ArrPirate : just google it..ul find the help u need
[18:15] <grimrider> demonoid registrations are open if anyone wants to make an account
[18:15] <rockenrola1> chamunks: I believe you have to logou and log back in
[18:15] <c_lisp> gokul you sitll there?
[18:15] <rockenrola1> chamunks: did you tried that ?
[18:16] <newbee617> ikonia:  are u there
[18:16] <monostone> Anyone manage to correctly configure "Logitech G9 Laser Mouse" in ubuntu gutsy 7.10 using evdev drivers?
[18:16] <gokul> c_lisp: yes
[18:16] <olsnbabz> RAdams: it says: 2.6.24-19-generic
[18:16] <chamunks> rockenrola1, ahh that i have not for the howto's left that little detail out... They made it seem it was as simple as a save and away ya go.
[18:16] <c_lisp> that pastebin didn't go through repost it
[18:16] <gokul> ok
[18:16] <c_lisp> didn't show it in recent post either :)
[18:17] <chamunks> rockenrola1, so essentially since I cant logout right now i could drop into terminal via alt+ctrl+f1 and in that terminal those commands should work?
[18:17] <gokul> c_lisp : http://www.pastebin.org/50300
[18:17] <LeoLocke> hi
[18:17] <rockenrola1> chamunks: yes it should
[18:17] <chamunks> rockenrola1, sweet ill echo results~
[18:17] <newbee617> again i wonder if anyone could help me , when ./configure pidgin i have problems about x11 screen saver. i post it at: http://pastebin.com/d2500b3ad
[18:17] <RAdams> Gah, got to go. can someone help olsnbabz get libflashsupport installed and help rausb0 with a low-level read on a blank disk from his dvd-r drive so he can see why it's not mounting blank discs?
[18:18] <c_lisp> whats the name of your sourcefile?
[18:18] <eek_> ikonia excuse me but in  youruser:yourgroup is the semicolon supposed to be my @ eek@eek-laptop or my semicolon in eek@eek-laptop:/media/disk$
[18:19] <LeoLocke> I was wondering If I could get some Ubuntu help =) I'm about as noob as it gets with this
[18:19] <chamunks> rockenrola1, yup that sure worked thanks allot!
[18:19] <rausb0> eek_: literally,eek:group
[18:19] <flea> oh yea ubuntu doesnt ship with make
[18:19] <newbee617> anyone help?
[18:19] <rockenrola1> chamunks: anytime
[18:19] <El_Matthews> ﻿ikonia: removed pulseaudio but now I don't have any sound anymore
[18:19] <trakinas> rockenrola1: same
[18:19] <c_lisp> gokul does the end of your file end with .cpp gokul?
[18:19] <gokul> yes
[18:20] <trashguy> flash + sound anger me
[18:20] <eek_> rausb0 sorry group no compute w/ this human
[18:20] <c_lisp> whats the file name?
[18:20] <gokul> cprog.cpp
[18:20] <chamunks> How come it seems asif every second relase of ubuntu the sound goes screwy...
[18:20] <olsnbabz> I found out that there isnn't sound on my avi files on my computer. But i see them. My XMMS playing fine.
[18:20] <rausb0> Can someone help me with a low-level read on a blank disk from his dvd-r drive so he can see why it's not mounting blank discs?
[18:20] <c_lisp> try g++ cpro.cpp
[18:20] <LeoLocke> I have the ISO burned to a disk... it boots just fine... when I install it loads a Ubuntu screen like it's loading...then goes through a INstall bar... then goes to a Grey or Black screen... and it does nothing... I turn pc off and back on... still says no OS and reboots Ubuntu Boot screen
[18:20] <chamunks> Pulse audio=great in theory but poor in support atm.
[18:21] <gokul> c_lisp:error : no such file or directory
[18:21] <c_lisp> should make a a.out
[18:21] <c_lisp> you need to install g++ then
[18:21] <LeoLocke> what is G++?
[18:21] <c_lisp> synaptics or sudo apt-get install g++
[18:21] <Chousuke> gokul: don't copypaste :P
[18:21] <chamunks> I keep getting programs that steal my audio from other apps being able to access it...
[18:21] <gokul> ok
[18:21] <Chousuke> gokul: was that a g++ or a bash error? :)
[18:22] <gokul> Chousuke: copypaste what ?
[18:22] <gokul> i typed it
[18:22] <gokul> i din copy paste
[18:22] <Chousuke> commands.
[18:22] <gokul> no i din copy paste
[18:22] <gokul> just mentioned the error
[18:22] <Twili> I need help.  What is the sudo command for deleting a file/folder as root?
[18:22] <gokul> mebbe it looked like i did copy paste
[18:22] <gokul> lol ok
[18:22] <Chousuke> oh, errors you must copy and paste :P
[18:22] <Chousuke> just not commands.
[18:22] <gokul> ok
[18:22] <Chousuke> (note: if the paste is big use pastebin)
[18:22] <fiXXXerMet> I am about to format my drive and reinstall ubuntu..   I have backed up /home and /etc and /usr/local/etc was empty.  Anything else I should grab?
[18:22] <newbee617> when compile pidgin , after typing ./configure, an error appears:XScreenSaver extension development headers not found. how to fix it
[18:23] <s`s> Twili: sudo rm (filename)
[18:23] <gokul> Chousuke : yeah i know..thanks
[18:23] <gonzagof> hi
[18:23] <LeoLocke> MY ubunto wont install can I get a hand ?
[18:23] <Chousuke> gokul: anyway, C++ programs are compiled with g++; install build-essential and you're fine :)
[18:23] <monostone> Twili: sudo rm file   or  sudo rm folder -R for recursive folder delete
[18:23] <s`s> Twili: for a folder (and all its contents) sudo rm -r (filename)
[18:23] <rausb0> Can someone help me with a low-level read on a blank disk from his dvd-r drive so he can see why it's not mounting blank discs?
[18:23] <potro> helow
[18:23] <patrick_> can someone help me with my screen resolution?
[18:23] <chacho> eyyyyyyy
[18:23] <potro> yeeeeeeee
[18:24] <bmk789> what module does a dlink dwl-520 use? ath_pci?
[18:24] <Chousuke> rausb0: blank disks aren't supposed to be mounted
[18:24] <LeoLocke> MY ubunto wont install can I get a hand ?
[18:24] <Chousuke> rausb0: they don't contain anything to mount :P
[18:24] <gokul> C_lisp : u still there ? my g++ is workin fine
[18:25] <gokul> C
[18:25] <rausb0> Chousuke: Ubuntu isn't detecting it, and I just copied what RAdams said :<
[18:25] <ubunubi> Chousuke: i think he means the blank discs aren't *detected*
[18:25] <Voort> abc123
[18:25] <Chousuke> I see.
[18:25] <bmk789> what module does a dlink dwl-520 use? ath_pci?
[18:25] <gokul> c_lisp: i mean g++ was already installed
[18:25] <Chousuke> gokul: the command is g++ source.file -o name_of_output_executable
[18:25] <LeoLocke> EVerytime I install UBuntu I get a blank screen
[18:25] <LeoLocke> and no
[18:26] <LeoLocke> ubuntu
[18:26] <Chousuke> gokul: try with that and your program will compile
[18:26] <rockenrola1> LeoLocke: the livecd works?
[18:26] <patrik> Hi, how can I make gdm make use of lid close actions (put my laptop to sleep when I close the lid) just as it does when I'm logged in as a user?
[18:26] <gokul> Chousuke : wt shud i put in place of name_of_output_executable ?
[18:27] <Chousuke> gokul: whatever you want
[18:27] <Chousuke> usually the name of your program
[18:27] <gokul> Chousuke: gimme an example..suppose my source file is abc.cpp..shud i try the followin : g++ abc.cpp -o abc.exe ?
[18:27] <Chousuke> that would work
[18:27] <LeoLocke> LiveCD?
[18:27] <LeoLocke> all I did was stick the Disk in
[18:27] <Chousuke> gokul: though usually you don't add .exe to executable names in Linux
[18:27] <odla> how can i set 'home' to the gnome-clock applet so that it will show weather for my home location?
[18:27] <LeoLocke> does the PC Need to be on the ineternet?
[18:27] <odla> i.e. w/o having to click the clock
[18:28] <Chousuke> gokul: so just g++ abc.cpp -o abc
[18:28] <trakinas> ssh says port 22 is already in use
[18:28] <Chousuke> gokul: if you don't specify the -o option, the default filename will be "a.out"
[18:28] <ubunubi> is it possible to make a symbolic link contain a UUID reference instead of a device mapping?
[18:28] <trakinas> how can I map which app is using port 22 and then free it?
[18:29] <Chousuke> ubunubi: hm?
[18:29] <gokul> Chousuke : thanks a lot..its workin now
[18:29] <hateball> trakinas, netstat ?
[18:29] <gokul> Chousuke: now i can get back to my assignments..phew
[18:29] <rausb0> Can someone help me with a low-level read on a blank disk from his dvd-r drive so he can see why it's not detecting blank discs?
[18:29] <Chousuke> ubunubi: symbolic links contain only a path
[18:29] <gokul> C_lisp : thanks a lot..
[18:29] <LeoLocke> ><
[18:29] <LeoLocke> I can't get this to work at all
[18:29] <LeoLocke> >.>
[18:29] <trakinas> hateball: to see what is using what, right? to free the port??
[18:29] <hateball> Ye
[18:30] <YouKnowMeDontLie> can anyone help with setting up an AT&T WWAN card?
[18:30] <hateball> with appropriate switches
[18:30] <bmk789> HELP! ive been using ubuntu since hoary but i cant figure out why neither of my wireless adapters will even show up
[18:30] <Thylacine> question: is gnome faster than kde? I know gnome uses less ram, but is it faster?
[18:30] <bmk789> not even lspci or lsusb will show my adapters?!?!?! how????
[18:31] <elb> I just upgraded an old PC to hardy heron, and I'm having boot troubles with the hardy kernel -- just after the grub menu disappears and before the kernel proper starts booting (or immediately thereupon, before I see any messages?), the display mode changes and the monitor shuts off
[18:31] <elb> the machine doesn't progress past this point
[18:31] <elb> any ideas as to what might be causing that?
[18:31] <elb> (the gutsy kernelcontinues to work)
[18:31] <LeoLocke> can some one PM me and walk me through the UBuntu install?
[18:31] <trashguy> elb, 64bit?
[18:32] <elb> 32-bit, Pentium III
[18:32] <bmk789> HELP! ive been using ubuntu since hoary but i cant figure out why neither of my wireless adapters will even show up!  not even lspci or lsusb will show my adapters?!?!?! how????
[18:32] <elb> I have a hunch it's video-related, but turning off splash nor futzing with vga= seem to help; the video adapter is a Matrox G450
[18:32] <pierrelourens> Does anyone know if the latest version of btnx works w/ hardy heron (as far as the MX revolution is concerned)
[18:33] <djhash> !hi
[18:34] <trashguy> elb, boot grpahical safe
[18:34] <monostone> pierrelourens: I have tried btnx with the 'Logitech USB G9 Laser Mouse' and it will not detect all the buttons. Nor those which aren't already detected initially by the xserver.
[18:34] <elb> trashguy: safe mode doesn't boot, either, same problem
[18:34] <pierrelourens> monostone, this is aggravating.  all it recognizes is scroll, left click, and right click.  do you know of any other solutions (besides btnx)?
[18:35] <syscode> hiyas! love ubuntu 8.04 - but have a nugging problem...
[18:35] <mjg> does anyone know how to hotkey "move down" in either compiz or keyboard shortcuts
[18:35] <syscode> I have just installed ubuntu 8.04.
[18:35] <syscode> All seems well apart from firefox seems to connect only to few sites..
[18:35] <syscode> I can get google.com for example - but not ubuntu.com. In fact the only other site that i got connected with is: diamondcard.us. (ekiga)
[18:35] <syscode> After a bit of a search here, it seemed that maybe my problem was a need to add the line net.ipv4.tcp_default_window_scaling = 0
[18:35] <syscode> on etc/sysctl.conf - but adding the line didn't make any difference.
[18:35] <FloodBot3> syscode: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <syscode> Any idea what may cause this behaviour and how to fix it..?
[18:35] <Ward1983> i have setup 2 monitors on my PC, i have an nvidia card so i used nvidia-settings, it worked great, i didnt choose twinview, i chose the other option, can i now lock my mouse and keyboard to one if i temporarily want to work only on one monitor
[18:35] <monostone> I am currently trying to use evdev, but all i can find is a confused mix of opinions stating it isnt a good driver to use, not to mention that half of the options are deprecated and the documentation does NOT reflect which ones
[18:35] <bmk789> HELP! ive been using ubuntu since hoary but i cant figure out why neither of my wireless adapters will even show up!  not even lspci or lsusb will show my adapters?!?!?! how????
[18:35] <Ward1983> (to prevent my mouse getting on my other monitor)
[18:35] <mjg> i have 4 desktops horzontal, and 2 vertical (total 8) but cannot switch to the bottom 4
[18:35] <mjg> only way i can so far is with expo
[18:35] <igors> hi all...anybody could help me with cron? i'm adding a crontab file for my user, but i doens't execute: http://dpaste.com/62107/
[18:36] <PossibleBit_> syscode: anything weird with your hosts.conf?
[18:36] <trashguy> bmk789, does it show up in dmesg?
[18:36] <PossibleBit_> *host.conf
[18:36] <pierrelourens> monostone, I feel your pain.  I tried looking around with that project, and it's just a mess.  I've had no problems with any type of support / documentation for my hardware, except this mouse, haha.
[18:36] <PossibleBit_> na wrong
[18:36] <PossibleBit_> I mean /etc/hosts
[18:36] <monostone> One option I have read consists in using PC sitepoint software to define extra buttons as key-combinations and then assign them functionality through ubuntu, but that is less then optimal
[18:36] <PossibleBit_> yeah, totally mixed things up.
[18:37] <syscode> possibleBit - not that i know of
[18:37] <pierrelourens> monostone, with wine?
[18:37] <PossibleBit_> no other idea then <.<
[18:37] <syscode> how do i check the hosts.conf?
[18:37] <bmk789> trashguy: nope
[18:37] <PossibleBit_> try gedit /etc/hosts
[18:37] <PossibleBit_> (that was the file I meant)
[18:37] <monostone> pierrelourens: no, I have a dual boot system
[18:37] <syscode> yes i understand :)
[18:38] <syscode> i meant how do i know if its weird.. :)
[18:38] <monostone> pierrelourens: but that still isn't what I want, i want to get this working completely from ubuntu
[18:38] <PossibleBit_> oh right
[18:38] <trashguy> bmk789, how are they pluged in to the machine
[18:38] <pierrelourens> monostone, I agree, and it seems to have worked in the past and the project has slowed or something
[18:38] <bmk789> one is usb directly in the motherboard, the other is PCI straight in the MB
[18:38] <bartmon> Hey guys. I've just added a new HDD and partitioned it. What option do i have to put in my fstab so non-priviledged users can have rw access to the new partition?
[18:39] <PossibleBit_> there shouldn't be much more than a few entries about 127.0.0.1, and maybe a few ipv6 stuffs
[18:39] <bmk789> both have lights on, so they are connected right
[18:39] <trashguy> bmk789, well recieving power
[18:39] <ikonia> newbee617: apologies I was away from my desk
[18:39] <pierrelourens> monostone, there is an unresolved bug report on btnx-config's launchpad here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/btnx-config/+bug/246526
[18:40] <newbee617> ikonia:  never mind
[18:41] <monostone> pierrelourens: not good :( The strange thing is that i once managed to get 7 buttons working, all except the left/right tilt. Have you tried running xev from console, and test if xserver detects the buttons?
[18:41] <youknowme> googling is bringing up to much trash, can anyone tell me how to add the control panel to my install of compiz on 8.04
[18:41] <youknowme> ?
[18:41] <pierrelourens> monostone, I haven't... do you have a link for that?
[18:41] <trashguy> what a control panel
[18:41] <Slart> youknowme: edit the main menu, enable the control panel
[18:41] <KenBW2> youknowme: sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center i think
[18:42] <bartmon> youknowme: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:42] <youknowme> Thanks guys!
[18:42] <pierrelourens> youknowme, what bartmon said :)
[18:42] <lakshmanan> is there any program in linux to record a video out of my screen movements.... i just want it for some tutorial purposes
[18:43] <monostone> pierrelourens: I also believe there is an issue with my mouse being a USB device, and running:  cat /proc/bus/input/devices shows that the input and event changes, breaking my xorg.conf configuration
[18:43] <Guest84604> who used Linux redhat?
[18:43] <trashguy> me
[18:43] <flea> i unfortunately have
[18:43] <PossibleBit_> I used fedora for some time if that counts
[18:43] <Guest84604> how many cost?
[18:43] <pierrelourens> monostone, I agree... i think the original problem lies in recognizing the mouse as a USB device
[18:43] <monostone> pierrelourens: open a console and type: xev
[18:43] <bieb> I am ssh'ed into a box, there is no tab completion or up arrow for history. I know it is a "chsh", but I am not sure of the argument for it..
[18:43] <lakshmanan> ﻿is there any program in linux to record a video out of my screen movements.... i just want it for some tutorial purposes
[18:43] <cpierce_> i used it until i started using centos for those boxes
[18:44] <trashguy> i used red hat form 4 on to 9 and then fedora until 9... now i am here
[18:44] <Guest84604> I try download in torrentz.com
[18:44] <c_lisp> gokul you got it working?
[18:44] <PossibleBit_> you know, there is really no reason to do that
[18:44] <PossibleBit_> just get fedora core.
[18:44] <cpierce_> Guest2221:  http://www.centos.org
[18:44] <lakshmanan> ﻿is there any program in linux to record a video out of my screen movements.... i just want it for some tutorial purposes
[18:44] <bieb> Guest84604: Fedora9 is free still
[18:44] <cpierce_> fedora is the beta of redhat
[18:44] <cpierce_> centos is the free LIKE FOR LIKE of redhat
[18:44] <trashguy> dont get 9
[18:44] <trashguy> no
[18:44] <jpds> !ot
[18:44] <lakshmanan> ﻿is there any program in linux to record a video out of my screen movements.... i just want it for some tutorial purposes
[18:44] <trashguy> fedora is a community
[18:44] <ikonia> !offtopic
[18:45] <lakshmanan> ﻿is there any program in linux to record a video out of my screen movements.... i just want it for some tutorial purposes
[18:45] <trakinas> lakshmanan: many
[18:45] <trashguy> blah blah
[18:45] <pierrelourens> monostone, and then?
[18:45] <trashguy> ot nazis
[18:45]  * jpds hugs ikonia 
[18:45] <trakinas> lakshmanan: i like recodmydesktop
[18:45] <tclineks> don't think this is possible but can i link one one file to another without using more inodes until i modify one of the files?
[18:45] <ikonia> !kick trakinas no racisim please.
[18:45] <monostone> pierrelourens: I also have read about how the evdev driver has issues understanding  /dev/input/by-id/ and by-path/ symlinks, which is bad, since those symlinks are static and what i would need. Still i believe there is more to it then that
[18:45] <ikonia> tclineks: get the picture
[18:45] <PossibleBit_> lakshmanan: try "recordmydesktop"
[18:45] <ikonia> oops
[18:45] <ikonia> trakinas: get the idea
[18:45] <tclineks> ikonia: what
[18:45] <lakshmanan> trakinas: where can i download "recordmydesktop"
[18:45] <flea> whats the meta package for cc, make all that stuff?
[18:45] <ikonia> oh for the love of good
[18:45] <ikonia> tclineks: sorry
[18:45] <trakinas> ikonia: racism? where?
[18:45] <ikonia> tclineks: auto complete went nuts
[18:46] <ikonia> trashguy: no need for natzi comments
[18:46] <ikonia> tclineks: apologies at my end
[18:46] <lakshmanan> ﻿PossibleBit_: where can i download it
[18:46] <pierrelourens> monostone, if only logitech could provide some software or answers :P
[18:46] <monostone> pierrelourens: after executing xev, you should see a box where you can click inside, and the console will print info for the button, if it detects it. if not, nothing will ocurr
[18:46] <trashguy> sorry 3 line of ot is horrible...
[18:46] <tclineks> ikonia: no problem
[18:46] <PossibleBit_> lakshmanan: just look in synaptics for it
[18:46] <trakinas> lakshmanan: apt-get install recordmydesktop gtk-recordmydesktop
[18:46] <flush> hey
[18:46] <trashguy> Anyone else been having issues with sound and flash?
[18:46] <ikonia> trashguy: it's a common complaint
[18:46] <flush> can i broadcast local mesasge to people connected on my wifi ?
[18:46] <trakinas> lakshmanan: or look in synaptic, like PossibleBit_ said. =P
[18:46] <shivraj> How do I return back to GUI after I use shift+ctrl+alt+f1
[18:46] <flea> trashguy: just flash
[18:47] <trashguy> ikonia, is it pulse?
[18:47] <ikonia> trashguy: no, flash
[18:47] <s`s> shivraj: same command but with f7
[18:47] <ikonia> trashguy: normally
[18:47] <flea> shivraj: should be f7
[18:47] <s`s> shivraj: (typically)
[18:47] <pierrelourens> monostone, I'm pretty sure it recognizes everything but the back/foward buttons, thumb dial, and search button :P
[18:47] <shivraj> s`s flea: not working
[18:47] <trashguy> ikonia, well it works fine in my other distro install and i use alsa so im curious
[18:47] <lakshmanan> trakinas: thanks
[18:47] <lakshmanan> thanks
[18:47] <flea> shivraj: X may have quit
[18:47] <ikonia> trashguy: it may work in your next ubuntu install, it's really a very personal situation
[18:48] <lakshmanan>  i got it in synaptic
[18:48] <shivraj> flea: how to check it?
[18:48] <trashguy> ikonia, it worked oneday on another hardy install ^^
[18:48] <ikonia> trashguy: for example, my flash install is very fussy on memory, if too much is running flash refuses to open players
[18:48] <ikonia> trashguy: exactly, its suseptable to environment/install/environment changes quite highly
[18:48] <s`s> shivraj: did ctrl+alt+f7 do anything at all, or did it display a different terminal?
[18:48] <DarkAudit> I have to sudo to completely eject my ipod in KDE. how do I fix this?
[18:48] <trashguy> ikonia, is gnash still broken?
[18:48] <mjg> what would the code be to show Tomboy-search all notes on widget layer?
[18:48] <ikonia> trashguy: not broken, just not as advanced
[18:49] <flea> shivraj: X has a log in /var/log/Xorgsomething
[18:49] <bmk789> how can i tell if interrupts are causing my wireless adapters to not be detected?
[18:49] <hwilde> on boot what executes /etc/init.d/rc.local ?
[18:49] <trakinas> DarkAudit: never had anytroubles, but i think #Kubuntu would be a better place to ask about kde.
[18:49] <shivraj> s`s flea : Oh God, Thanks s`s I was using shift + ctrl+alt+f7 which was the issue!!! :-)
[18:50] <ikonia> hwilde: init
[18:50] <trashguy> its got to be pulse not rapping around flash
[18:50] <hwilde> ikonia, where specifically
[18:50] <monostone> pierrelourens: check these sites out, they might help you somewhat maybe: http://meandubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/logitech-laser-g9-and-ubuntu/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471  I started around there and followed links, but for me nothing worked :(
[18:50] <ikonia> hwilde: what do you mean where ?
[18:50] <s`s> shivraj: oh ok yeah it usually isn't shift. glad it worked for you :-D
[18:50] <flea> shivraj: ah yes, the old phat phingers
[18:50] <shivraj> anyways chatting on terminal is cool :-)
[18:50] <ikonia> hwilde: init runs through the run levels, rc.local is one of them
[18:50] <hwilde> ikonia, umm how does it know to execute /etc/init.d/rclocal
[18:50] <ikonia> hwilde: it's built into init and upstart
[18:50] <khaleel5000> hello, i am a noob with ubuntu hardy heron, i would like to use kde 3x which package should i select to in install KDE
[18:50] <pierrelourens> alright, thanks anyway :)
[18:51] <hwilde> ikonia, where I want to see the file
[18:51] <ikonia> khaleel5000: kde-desktop
[18:51] <bmk789> khaleel5000: kubuntu-desktop
[18:51] <ikonia> hwilde: what file ?
[18:51] <c_lisp> lol
[18:51] <hwilde> ikonia, umm the file where it executes /etc/init.d/rc.local
[18:51] <monostone> pierrelourens: I use a G9 but through there you see info about the MX series
[18:51] <ikonia> bkthank you
[18:51] <pierrelourens> i appreciate it
[18:51] <ikonia> hwilde: it's not a file- it's an application
[18:51] <hwilde> ikonia, where
[18:51] <c_lisp> hwidle its built in the system its no external software application
[18:51] <monostone> no problem :)
[18:51] <ikonia> Kwitschibo: init and upstart
[18:51] <ikonia> Kwitschibo: sorry
[18:51] <ikonia> hwilde: init and upstart
[18:51] <s`s> khaleel5000: but you should note that that's going to install kde on top of gnome, not replace it. you can do that but it doubles up your programs and stuff (because the kde alternatives are installed alongside the gnomes)
[18:52] <hwilde> ikonia, are you talking about initrd ?
[18:52] <pen> how do I enable hal support for xorg so I can have hotplug for evdev for my logitech mouse/
[18:52] <pen> ?
[18:52] <ikonia> hwilde: no
[18:52] <s`s> khaleel5000: I prefer just doing a fresh kubuntu install instead when I feel like switching. but it's really your preference
[18:52] <khaleel5000> s`s: i want to run them together
[18:52] <hwilde> ikonia, /sbin/init ?
[18:52] <fiXXXerMet> I am install 8.04 desktop and want to raid 1 my two disks...  Any help?  There are no options in the installer like there are in the server installer.
[18:52] <ikonia> hwilde: I'll say it again - a binary called "init" and one called "upstart"
[18:52] <s`s> khaleel5000: in that case, go for it
[18:52] <khaleel5000> ikonia: i dont have kde-desktop
[18:52] <ikonia> khaleel5000: bmk789 corrected me, kubuntu-desktop
[18:52] <trashguy> khaleel5000, install kbuntu
[18:52] <ubunubi> fiXXXerMet: use the alternative install iso
[18:52] <hwilde> ikonia, so you mean /sbin/init ?  and where is upstart
[18:52] <ikonia> trashguy: a re-install for a desktop is overkill
[18:53] <s`s> khaleel5000: there should be just a kde package too
[18:53] <fiXXXerMet> ubunubi: Does that contain the packages for desktop?
[18:53] <trashguy> ikonia, better the having a cluster of useless packages and it only take liek 10 mins
[18:53] <pierrelourens> monostone, thanks for all the help. now it's time for a sandwich, i'm done messing with this
[18:53] <pierrelourens> hah
[18:53] <hwilde> ikonia, which upstart does not return anything, neither does locate upstart | grep bin
[18:53] <khaleel5000> trashguy: i downloaded 8.4 kubuntu, had some sudo related issues + display wasent working, so i got ubuntu, now I just need to install KDE along with gnome
[18:53] <monostone> pen: elaborate? do you have the evdev module enabled in the kernel? I don't quite understand your problem, hal should be working out of the box
[18:53] <ubunubi> fiXXXerMet: yes
[18:53] <TtyS2> hi, where can i read about how i can change rwin?
[18:53] <fiXXXerMet> thanks
[18:53] <khaleel5000> s`s: which package should I select to install kde side by sid ewith gnome?
[18:53] <newbee617> Tcl development headers not found. what can i do?
[18:53] <ikonia> hwilde: upstart isn't the actual binary, it's a replacment for the sysvinit system
[18:54] <hwilde> ikonia, ok... so /sbin/init calls /etc/init.d/rc.local ?
[18:54] <ikonia> hwilde: yes
[18:54] <pen> monostone, I used it in xorg.conf
[18:54] <hwilde> ikonia, and can I get the src for /sbin/init ?
[18:54] <monostone> pen: what is the result of lsmod | grep evdev? in the device section for your mouse in xorg.conf do you have Driver "evdev" defined?
[18:54] <ikonia> hwilde: basiclly - there is more to it than that, but thats the bottom line
[18:54] <narcoclepsy> it appears no matter what i install from openjdk, i am missing /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/amd64/gcjwebplugin.so, anyone come across this?
[18:54] <ikonia> hwilde: why do you want the source?
[18:54] <ikonia> hwilde: can you read c++ ?
[18:54] <s`s> khaleel5000: apt-get install kde
[18:55] <pen> monostone, evdev                  13056  9
[18:55] <Dasuraga[1]> Is it possible to fuse an empty partition with the root FS, if it's on a different hard drive?
[18:55] <s`s> khaleel5000: that will give you the whole package
[18:55] <dxdt> Has anyone mounted a file directly into ram?
[18:55] <dxdt> like if you wanted to really dent I/O time, and you have ram to spare?
[18:55] <khaleel5000> s`s: thanks
[18:55] <pen> monostone, see, if I forgot to plug my mouse in before x starts, evdev will just be unloaded
[18:55] <s`s> khaleel5000: sure
[18:55] <pen> monostone, that is pretty annoying
[18:55] <rockenrola> dxdt: i had mounted a folder
[18:55] <c_lisp> yes ubuntu live cd mounts to ram
[18:55] <ubunubi> dxdt: that's easy. just copy the file to /dev/shm and open it from there
[18:55] <monostone> all i can say is that this problematic, since Logitech isn't providing open source drivers nor good support for its latest mice in linux, kind of the same problem with ATI proprietary video drivers
[18:56] <hwilde> ikonia, I need to settle an argument about /etc/rc.local vs /etc/init.d/rc.local.    there isn't any init-dev package so how can I get the /sbin/init src
[18:56] <ikonia> hwilde: whats the argument ?
[18:56] <hwilde> ikonia, where can I get the /sbin/init src ?
[18:56] <c_lisp> google
[18:56] <ikonia> hwilde: can you read c++ ?
[18:56] <hwilde> ikonia, where can I get the /sbin/init src ?
[18:56] <AdvoWork> hi there, if ive got a dir with: drwx------ owned by user myuser  how can i apply the same to a "newdir" ?
[18:56] <hwilde> where can I get the /sbin/init src ?
[18:57] <ikonia> hwilde: I'll take your lack of response as you can't read c++
[18:57] <dxdt> ubunubi: reallY?  That easy?  hmm.
[18:57] <c_lisp> omg
[18:57] <hwilde> ikonia, cmon where can I get the serc
[18:57] <pen> monostone, this is a snippet of the xorg.conf for the mouse section     http://rafb.net/p/BrUAYA12.html
[18:57] <ubunubi> dxdt: yes /dev/shm is a premounted ram disk
[18:57] <ubunubi> dxdt: technically speaking
[18:57] <dxdt> what happens if you make changes to it while it is ram and then you need to shutdown the machine?  can you write it back to hd fairly easily?
[18:57] <trashguy> hwilde, you would have to download it
[18:58] <ikonia> trashguy: whats the point if he can't read c++
[18:58] <ubunubi> dxdt:  cp /dev/shm/file.*  cp /home/usr/hardcopy.* ?
[18:58] <Den> Hello
[18:58] <sportman1280> hello:  I am having issues with using a preseed as a boot option in syslinux. it keeps being ignored
[18:58] <trashguy> ikonia, he can humor himself
[18:58] <monostone> pen: yes that happens as well, in my case it goes as far as unloading itself automatically :S if i force Option "CorePointer" using evdev driver I lose my  mouse completely
[18:58] <gag> how to uninstall ubuntu and install windows xp
[18:58] <TtyS2> how can i adjust rwin
[18:58] <ikonia> hwilde: the source is in the ubuntu repo's along with all the other packages, feel free to get it
[18:58] <pen> monostone, I found a partial solution to that, but it will load mouse driver so loses all the special functionality
[18:59] <Den> I need help - how i can reset to default all locale settings?
[18:59] <pen> monostone, it is the same as not having hotplug so I abandon it
[18:59] <Den> default to EN
[18:59] <Starnestommy> gag: just install xp over ubuntu with xp's install disk
[18:59] <msn-viv> hi
[18:59] <hwilde> ikonia, I don't see any init-dev package... what is the package with the /sbin/init src ?
[18:59] <Den> in GNOME
[18:59] <oxigen> hi, on one computer i still have edgy, but there is no repositories any more, what should i do (instead reinstall)?
[18:59] <ikonia> hwilde: why would it be called dev ?
[18:59] <ubunubi> dxdt: the /dev/shm ramdisk is defaulted to only 50% of your installed RAM..if you plan on using files larger than that. you'll have to create & mount your own tmpfs  filesystem
[18:59] <ikonia> hwilde: -dev packages are normally the libaray
[18:59] <ikonia> hwilde: whats the argument/debate?
[19:00] <monostone> pen: yes, :( that isnt good, im pasting my xorg.conf snippet for you http://rafb.net/p/yIcrxa26.html
[19:00] <frold> anyone able to help with a DMA problem with my: DVD drive: NEC ND-6650A
[19:00] <trashguy> hwilde, you will need some understanding od subversion
[19:00] <W8TAH> any idea why im getting a long delay between entering username and password on ssh connections?
[19:00] <hwilde> ikonia, why won't you just tell me what is the package with the /sbin/init src?  you don't know?
[19:00] <ikonia> trashguy: he doesn't need that
[19:00] <ikonia> hwilde: it's called upstart
[19:00] <jyoseph> I'd like to switch my control / alt / windows buttons around.... would xbindkeys be a good route to go? (noob question)
[19:00] <hwilde> trashguy, that's fine what's the svn co line
[19:00] <monostone> pen: the by-path you use is prone to failure if i remember correctly, due to evdev not following symlinks correctly (read above my posts with pierrelourens)
[19:00] <trashguy> ikonia, source package?
[19:00] <hwilde> ikonia, aptitude does not have an upstart-src package.
[19:01] <ikonia> trashguy: yes, the source package is called upstart
[19:01] <ikonia> hwilde: I didn't say it was called upstart-src
[19:01] <ikonia> hwilde: it's called upstart
[19:01] <trakinas> hwilde: svn co <host> <target>
[19:01] <hwilde> ikonia, I already have upstart, upstart-compat-sysv, and upstart-logd installed
[19:01] <hwilde> where is the src for /sbin/init ?
[19:01] <ikonia> hwilde: it's in the upstart package
[19:01] <c_lisp> lol
[19:01] <pen> monostone, really?
[19:01] <hwilde> god damn are you trying to be difficult or what
[19:01] <ikonia> hwilde: no,
[19:02] <pen> monostone, but it works for me, it is just the same as using event
[19:02] <Den> How i can change all locale parameters? where i can find this config file?
[19:02] <trakinas> hwilde: i.e. svn co http://svn.example.com /svn/target/
[19:02] <ikonia> Den: which parameters ?
[19:02] <Den> Please, help
[19:02] <ubunubi> source code is never contained in the main package ikonia, hence all the -src suffixes
[19:02] <berent> why does firefox crash so frequently? Why doesn't safari released for linux?
[19:02] <monostone> pen: lots of the options are deprecated as well, and future releaes of ubuntu seem to worsen this issue :( I will pastebin my Xorg.0.log snippet for you to see: http://rafb.net/p/REMcf863.html
[19:02] <ikonia> ubunubi: the source code is in the main package - its just not compiled, you
[19:02] <trakinas> berent: firefox never crashs with me.
[19:02] <pen> monostone, what do you mean by that?
[19:03] <trakinas> berent: try opera if you are not satisfied.
[19:03] <DeadPanda> hwilde, if it's in the upstart package, "apt-get source upstart"
[19:03] <monostone> pen: what ubuntu release are you using?
[19:03] <ikonia> DeadPanda: exactly
[19:03]  * elb cuts Hardy
[19:03] <erUSUL> berent: dunno mine works fine. Ask Apple
[19:03] <c_lisp> actaully upstart is a replacement for /sbin/init
[19:03] <jyoseph> berent opera = win
[19:03] <berent> trakinas: opera is cool actually the 9.5 version.
[19:03] <pen> monostone, course is hardy
[19:03] <pen> monostone, you mean intrepid?
[19:03] <monostone> pen: as you see in my log it seems to load, detect all buttons, then it breaks, if i force Option "CorePointer" the mouse is disabled
[19:04] <pen> monostone, don't use corepointer
[19:04] <pen> monostone, disable it
[19:04] <monostone> pen: I read somewhere that some options dont do anything anymore, let me find the site and i will post the link
[19:05] <berent> firefox is fine when load is less. when there is load/ prolonged usage it crashes.
[19:05] <pen> monostone, ok
[19:05] <Den> ikonia: all parameters which i can see when i type "locale" from RU to EN
[19:06] <jyoseph> is there a file I can edit to change my keyboard key bindings?
[19:06] <jyoseph> so alt = control
[19:06] <jyoseph> windows button = alt , etc
[19:08] <p47> does anybody here can tell how to make a gfxboot image?
[19:08] <gag> how to uninstall ubuntu and install windows.Cant open the exe form windows cd.If i boot the cd and start installing it says that it cant find HDD.
[19:08] <ubunubi> jyoseph: go to System>Preferences>Layouts>Layout Options
[19:09] <monostone> pen: can't find the site, I didn't bookmark it :(
[19:09] <jyoseph> ubunubi thanks, i've messed with that a little. Is the meta key = alt?
[19:09] <ubunubi> gag: if windows install can't see your HD...then it has nothing to do with ubuntu being installed
[19:09] <pen> monostone, oh
[19:09] <berent> and surprisingly in opera when i open gmail.com there is no invisible option in messenger area ( which is present in firefox - but the issue with firefox is my friends know that i am invisible !!! :-))
[19:09] <ubunubi> jyoseph: not sure. you'd have to test and see
[19:09] <Starnestommy> GodTodd: ask in ##windows for how to install windows.
[19:10] <Starnestommy> GodTodd: er, whoops, never mind
[19:10] <jyoseph> ubunubi last question, do I need to restart X after every change? or restart computer?
[19:10] <Starnestommy> gag: for windows related issues, ask ##windows
[19:10] <ubunubi> jyoseph: loging out and back in always reloads keyboard stuff for me
[19:10] <trakinas> btb
[19:10] <trakinas> *brb
[19:10] <trakinas> exit
[19:10] <trakinas> ops
[19:10] <monostone> pen: are all the buttons being detected for your mouse?
[19:11] <jyoseph> sorry for the silly questions, my first week on ubuntu 8.04
[19:11] <jyoseph> thanks ubunubi
[19:11] <pen> monostone, yes
[19:11] <gag> but if i use recovery install_
[19:11] <pen> monostone, I use xmodmap to make sure everything is detected
[19:11] <gag> or something like that
[19:11] <gag> recovery console
[19:11] <gag> i think it was
[19:12] <monostone> pen: could you post me the relevant lines in your Xorg.0.log and xmodmap please? I see several differences in your xorg.conf, and Im willing to try everything.
[19:12] <laughtear> guys, hi... is it hard to move the ubuntu (whole the working system) to another partition or another hdd?
[19:12] <pen> monostone, ok
[19:13] <pen> monostone, hold on
[19:13] <pen> monostone, bt
[19:13] <pen> monostone, btw, do your mouse have side scrolls?
[19:13] <ASULutzy> laughtear: Hard is relative, but no, generally all you have to do is mount the new partition and do sudo cp -ax / /media/newpartition
[19:13] <laughtear> i decided to use a larger disk for ubuntu..
[19:13] <ByPasS> is there still a way to setup users without any passwd ( I used passwd -f way back in the past but that option seems outdated )
[19:14] <hwilde> ByPasS, if you do a useradd without a pw there will be no pw
[19:14] <monostone> pen: yes, but since evdev unloads it all stops working. I will try using xmodmap, since I haven't tried that yet.
[19:14] <TtyS2> how can i delete contacts in pidgin 2.4.3 so they stay deleted after restarting pidgin?
[19:14] <laughtear> ASULutzy: can i do it here as i'm talking to you?
[19:14] <monostone> pen: btw, is your mouse a USB mouse?
[19:14] <pen> monostone, xmodmap is used to map your buttons it has nothing to do with evdev unload
[19:14] <pen> monostone, yes
[19:14] <gordboy> any debian/ubuntu users willing to try out frostwire 4.17.0 ? i want to replicate a bug and get this put to bed asap. thanks in advance - http://www.frostwire.com/?id=downloads
[19:14] <ByPasS> hwilde : oh i used adduser my error if i only useradd it wont prompt for a passwd at all right
[19:14] <pen> monostone, is yours not?
[19:15] <ASULutzy> laughtear: Sure, why not. do sudo mkdir /media/newdisk && sudo cp -ax / /media/newdisk
[19:15] <ASULutzy> laughtear: I believe that'll be the first step
[19:15] <monostone> pen: yes it is as well
[19:16] <monostone> pen: I am really lost on this, I have read through bug lists, forums, everything I could find, but i can't seem to solve this. Been all week working on this, and nothing yet
[19:16] <laughtear> could not that be done by gparted?
[19:17] <laughtear> ASULutzy: could not that be done by gparted (just asking)?
[19:17] <pen> monostone, what's your problem?
[19:17] <ASULutzy> laughtear: Oh, I assumed you already had the partitions setup? You'll need to make the new partition first
[19:17] <napsy_> Hello. How can I get the sha256 module to use it with dm-crypt. If I modprobe sha256 I get Error inserting padlock_sha , no such device
[19:17] <CodddEr> there is open source free program that can create and edir PDF files ?
[19:18] <xlizard> hi there
[19:18] <xlizard> CodddEr, openoffice
[19:18] <xlizard>  but not edit
[19:18] <laughtear> ASULutzy: off course, but i'm in trouble with deciding, i have both vista and xp on 2 hdd and totally 5 or 6 partitions, and probably moving xp or vista will cause me a lot trouble, ain't it?
[19:18] <CodddEr> : \ i need to edit
[19:18] <santi> hi
[19:18] <bartmon> CodddEr: Creation is possible from any program which supports printing but editing is much more complex
[19:19] <CodddEr> bartmon , so its possible ?
[19:19] <xlizard> CodddEr, if you only need grapic edit ... use gimp .... text edit ... im sorry
[19:19] <CodddEr> i need pdf editing
[19:19] <CodddEr> really
[19:19] <monostone> pen: not sure if you might find something usefull here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=767206&page=4. My problem as you see in my Xorg.0.log is that it detects my mouse, evdev loads and detects it, then it forgets the configuratin and sets it up as a regular pointer device using the mouse driver
[19:19] <ASULutzy> laughtear: I'm a bit confused with what your goal here is? If all you want to do is move Ubuntu to another partition, then you'd have to do what I said above. If all you want to do is resize a partition, then gparted could very well do that
[19:19] <laughtear> ASULutzy: do i have the same chance for xp (moving the whole system to another hdd?
[19:19] <bartmon> CodddEr: try this: sudo apt-get install pdfedit
[19:19] <os2mac> Ok I am an idiot. I don't know why but I am. I am trying to share (via samba) an attached USB drive to a Mac OSX machine. the drive in question is mounted to the /media directory with an ownership of os2mac/root. but when I try to attach to the samba share I get "can't find the drive" I think it has something to do with the ownership of the /media/os2mac drive but Ubuntu won't let me change the ownership, even with sudo.
[19:20] <xlizard> anybody got managed to read mmc-cards in this cardreader? : 15:00.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 21)
[19:20] <bartmon> CodddEr: or install package pdfedit throuh synaptic
[19:20] <ASULutzy> laughtear: Moving XP to another partition might be trickier, I've never tried it ##windows for that
[19:20] <hateball> CodddEr, Scribus does PDF editing these days
[19:20] <hateball> Tho you might have to compile it
[19:20] <pen> monostone, hm
[19:20] <pen> monostone, let me tweak something then i will try to respond you, hold on a sec
[19:21] <c_lisp> codder there pdfedit
[19:21] <laughtear> ASULutzy: okay, in fact i would like to wipe the whole hdd. but have to install it back because of photoshop and freehand issues...:( and you know their updates, etc. etc....)
[19:21] <xlizard> i found much of howtos with pciset to disable the mmc-reader to read mmc throgh sd reader ... noone worked ... and the ricoh-mmc kernel wodule dint work either
[19:21] <laughtear> ASULutzy: thank you buddy for information...
[19:22] <laughtear> ASULutzy: let's see what's gonna happen...;)
[19:22] <ASULutzy> laughtear: good luck
[19:22] <monostone> pen: ok
[19:22] <DeadPanda> os2mac: if you're doing the mount by hand in your fstab, check the umask (man mount, and search for 'fat')
[19:22] <pen> monostone, besides I have to restart x to get my mouse on so brb
[19:23] <zver_> hello
[19:23] <os2mac> DeadPanda: I did do the mount by hand but I just rebooted the machine.... gimme a minute and see if that fixed it.
[19:23] <rockenrola> xlizard: check this http://lddubeau.com/avaktavyam/linux-on-a-compal-ifl90/ . it worked for me
[19:24] <os2mac> DeadPanda: it didn't. lemme check your settings. hang on please
[19:25] <sportman1280> Has anyone used preseeds and syslinux before?
[19:25] <DeadPanda> os2mac, -o uid=1,gid=*group id of 'users'*,umask=007 should work, and make sure the user you want to access it with is in the 'users' group locally
[19:25] <jtrag> Hello everyone!
[19:25] <StoneApple> and gets around the crap CD reader problem :)
[19:25] <StoneApple> oops
[19:26] <os2mac> DeadPanda: it's  not in FSTAB .
[19:26] <jtrag> Could anyone please tell me how to install KDE 3 on Ubuntu via command line, or even the regular way... I can't seem to find it in the repositories included with ubuntu, I only see KDE 4....
[19:26] <os2mac> its an automounted USB drive.
[19:26] <Jason2gs> Hi guys. Is it possible to select which visual effects you want enabled? All I can find is three radio buttons, and that's not very much help.
[19:27] <DeadPanda> os2mac, well, you're going to have to put it in there :)
[19:27] <DeadPanda> os2mac, wouldn't hurt to try it by hand for debugging though
[19:29] <adityag> how to execute a C program ??? whats the name of the cmd ?
[19:29] <bartmon> Hey. Anyone knows how to mount a samba share via bash?
[19:29] <noe> hello, i have a problem.  I accidently took away "administer the system" to all my users on my other comp. how do i regain access?
[19:29] <pen> monostone, back
[19:29] <xlizard> rockenrola, runs out of the box? ....
[19:30] <c_lisp> gcc adityag
[19:30] <Starnestommy> adityag: you need to compile it before you can run it
[19:30] <adityag> Starnestommy: how to compile it ?
[19:30] <xlizard> bartmon, mount -t smbfs //server/share /mnt
[19:30] <rockenrola> xlizard: I did what's described there in 7.10. it worked out of the box
[19:30] <Starnestommy> adityag: gcc is usually used to compile c programs, but if there's a readme/install file with it, read that first
[19:30] <Blackthorn> What's the default boot loader for ubuntu?
[19:30] <SebNaitsabes> Grub
[19:31] <os2mac> DeadPanda: type?
[19:31] <xlizard> rockenrola, for mmc or sd?
[19:31] <DeadPanda> os2mac, I'm assuming it's "vfat" here
[19:31] <adityag> Starnestommy: gcc first.c ????/
[19:31] <Blackthorn> thanks
[19:31] <Starnestommy> adityag: gcc -o program-name program-name.c
[19:31] <DeadPanda> os2mac, if it's one of apple's kerazzy filesystems, ymmv
[19:31] <rockenrola> xlizard: sd I think
[19:31] <bartmon> xlizard: thanks, will try
[19:31] <SebNaitsabes> np
[19:31] <SebNaitsabes> why?
[19:31] <monostone> pen: hi, did you read up on the hotplugging post i sent you? it talks about your problem, hotplugging not supported yet it seems, but there is a workaround : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=767206&page=4
[19:31] <xlizard> rockenrola, sd is working fine ... mmc not ;(
[19:32] <rockenrola> xlizard: ok. can not help anymore then
[19:32] <w1ll> VFS: filp allocation failed <= I'm seeing that in my syslog file. Can anyone tell me what that means?
[19:32] <pen> monostone, ok
[19:32] <xlizard> too bad ;(
[19:32] <os2mac> DeadPanda: I am sharing it FROM the ubuntu box to the Mac box. it is a USB drive enclosure.
[19:33] <timo_>  i'm getting a blue screen when trying to play a dvd on kubunut
[19:33] <DeadPanda> os2mac, yup, and you said you suspected you were having permission problems
[19:33] <adityag> Starnestommy: whats program-name ???
[19:33] <bartmon> xlizard: Thanks, that would have worked but i just remembered that between my server and he share is a NAT router :(
[19:33] <Starnestommy> adityag: the name of the program that you want to make with the c file
[19:33] <DeadPanda> os2mac, I'm walking you through changing the effective ownership (permissions) of the mount
[19:33] <DeadPanda> os2mac, with vfat, chmod isn't going to do the trick
[19:33] <adityag> Starnestommy: ok,cool
[19:34] <Jason2gs> Is it possible to select which visual effects you want enabled? All I can find is three radio buttons, and that's not very much help.
[19:34] <xlizard> bartmon, openvpn ;)))
[19:34] <adityag> Starnestommy: does linux have something like TCC in windows ???
[19:34] <Starnestommy> adityag: what is tcc?
[19:34] <bartmon> xlizard: And that's gonna take the whole night to configure :)
[19:35] <adityag> Starnestommy: i am getting error when i include header files.............TURBO C/C++
[19:35] <xlizard> barnie, no, 5 minutes
[19:35] <rntkr> jason2gs: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:35] <adityag> Starnestommy: its an editor of C
[19:35] <xlizard> with a static key
[19:35] <pen> monostone, I was having trouble changing the values in epiphany
[19:35] <erpo> I was playing around in Gnome's keyboard settings applet and now the volume up and down buttons on my keyboard don't work. How can I fix this?
[19:35] <Jason2gs> rntkr, awesome, thanks :)
[19:35] <rntkr> then system-preferences-advanced desktop settings
[19:35] <bartmon> xlizard: I'll try to remote into the router and see if i can convince it to pass samba to its "wan" which is infact the target lan
[19:36] <Starnestommy> adityag: I don't think there's anything exactly like TCC, but there are development environments like eclipse and kdevelop
[19:36] <jtrag> Could anyone please tell me where to get KDE 3 for ubuntu?  I can only find KDE4 in ADD/Remove Programs
[19:36] <goanookie> Starnestommy, don't forget vim and emacs :)
[19:37] <adityag> Starnestommy: ok.......how do i include header files ?? i am getting error " No such file or directory" when i inculde stdio.h
[19:37] <DeadPanda> adityag, if by TCC you mean the C-compiler - it's there (but it means tiny C compiler, not turbo-c)
[19:37] <bashca> how reinstall my ieee please
[19:37]  * bashca using hardy
[19:37] <Starnestommy> adityag: do you have build-essential installed?
[19:37] <pen> monostone, I think your problem is solvable with changing your xorg settings
[19:38] <adityag> Starnestommy: i dont know....how do i find that ?
[19:38] <Starnestommy> adityag: run sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:38] <bashca> how reinstall my ieee
[19:38] <adityag> Starnestommy: installing it!!!!thanks
[19:39] <os2mac> DeadPanda: I get the following error "[mntent] line 11 in /etc/fstab is bad  mount can't find /media/os2mac in /etc/fstab/ or /etc/mtab
[19:39] <DeadPanda> os2mac, typo, by the looks of it
[19:39] <monostone> pen: what modifications should I do? Im open to anything i havent tried yet
[19:40] <marko3600> hola
[19:40] <os2mac> hang on a sec... lemme switch over to that box so's I can cut and paste
[19:40] <bashca> [   44.029201] ipw2200: Unknown symbol ieee80211_wx_get_encodeext
[19:40] <bashca>  how can resolve it
[19:40] <pen> monostone, what mouse do you have? tell me again
[19:41] <dkT> Anyone tried to install x-smiles on the lastest ubuntu?
[19:41] <adityag> Starnestommy: i have netbeans installed, can i use netbeans for writing codes ?
[19:41] <monostone> pen: Logitech G9 Laser Mouse (USB)
[19:41] <Starnestommy> adityag: I don't know anything about netbeans
[19:41] <KreazyLines> chile
[19:42] <pen> monostone, first of all, let's try to clean up your xorg mouse section
[19:42] <os2mac> DeadPanda: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26510/
[19:43] <pen> monostone, you don't need protocol, name, vendor, product. Just left your device line
[19:43] <pen> monostone, delete phys too
[19:43] <soho> in pidgin 2.4.3 if i ask for autorisation for a jabber-buddy the buddy is added another time to my buddy-list. is this normal?
[19:43] <monostone> pen: ok, im on it
[19:44] <DeadPanda> os2mac, /dev/sdb1   /media/OS2MAC   vfat   uid=1,gid=jim,umask=007   0   0
[19:44] <pen> monostone, maybe try delete your buttonmapping line
[19:44] <DeadPanda> os2mac, although, the gid's wrong - it should be the numeric group id of the 'jim' group
[19:44] <pen> monostone, have you set up your xmodmap yet?
[19:45] <kuzeyege> hello
[19:45] <os2mac> and how do I find that?
[19:45] <bashca> hello
[19:45] <bashca> any help
[19:45] <bashca> !ipw
[19:45] <potro> irc.freenode.com
[19:46] <aRahim> hello huys
[19:46] <DeadPanda> os2mac, grep ^jim /etc/group
[19:46] <aRahim> been having sound problem with hardy
[19:46] <pen> monostone, btw
[19:46] <aRahim> the sound stops for a sudden then resume after 3-4 minutes
[19:46] <pen> monostone, is fsm your name in ubuntuforums?
[19:48] <stu> anyone here got half-life 2 working on ubuntu using wine?
[19:48] <stu> I've managed to install it but when I load it I get as far as the intro vid... and then the loading screen and it crashes out
[19:49] <monostone> pen: no, that isnt me , i am monostone there as well
[19:50] <monostone> pen: i will remove all the lines you specified, including button mapping, and define xmodmap
[19:51] <pen> monostone, don't restart x yet
[19:51] <pen> monostone, open ~./Xmodmap
[19:51] <pen> monostone, and add this line to it.
[19:51] <pen> monostone, pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
[19:51] <pen> monostone, if you have more buttons please add it to your own preference
[19:52] <pen> monostone, after that
[19:52] <pen> monostone, if you want to take effect without logging out x, then open terminal and tyle
[19:52] <pen> monostone, type
[19:52] <pen> monostone, xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9"
[19:52] <pen> monostone, then see if your mouse button has been detected correctly?
[19:54] <the_darkside_986> i finally figured out how to mount a Windows 2003 share in Ubuntu, but i got another question, as in Vista where one logs into a domain and files in U:/ are saved locally and remotely, is it possible to setup a user account in Ubuntu that does something similar? i know i could symlink a mount but that wouldn't save both locally and remotely...
[19:55] <monostone> pen: I will have to restart X, since evdev unloads and the mouse driver with button emulation is loaded instead
[19:55] <pen> monostone, k
[19:56] <sportman1280> Can anyone help me figure out why the boot preseed i have specified is getting ignored when i boot?
[19:56] <monostone> pen: this happens when i dont define a CorePointer device, and if I do define the mouse using evdev and set it as CorePointer I end up without a mouse. Let me try these mods you proposed, back in a moment
[19:57] <fuffwork> is there a seperate channel for ubuntu netbook remix?
[19:57] <pen> monostone, k
[19:58] <Pinkerton|Linux> ffs
[19:58] <Niklas_E> is there any bug for apache2 so you can't start it?
[19:59] <monostone> pen: 1 last thing before i restart, could this be caused by an inappropriate module loaded in the module section?
[19:59] <adityag> Starnestommy: still i am getting the same problem......
[19:59] <pen> monostone, what you mean?
[20:00] <pen> monostone, what other modules did you load in xorg?
[20:00] <adityag> help needed to compile a C program......http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/fe3vtkMBc0
[20:01] <ubunubi> after successfully running "make"...where does the compiled file get output? :X sorry for the noob question
[20:01] <axelilly> I have a question regarding Ubuntu mobile...does it have a root password or does it use sudo like normal Ubuntu?
[20:01] <monostone> pen: http://paste.mycodenow.com/view/918a4e2b
[20:01] <monostone> pen: not sure if im creating a conflict or overiding evdev somehow?
[20:02] <pen> monostone, what video card do you have
[20:02] <shadowimmage> hello everyone, I know that there's a conflict with pulseaudio and wine, is it ok to uninstall pulseaudio? Is there going to be a noticeable difference in multimedia performance? Is there something to use instead?
[20:02] <monostone> ati x1650 pro agp 8
[20:03] <monostone> pen: yes i know, i should've gone with nvidia
[20:03] <pen> monostone, nvidia?
[20:04] <pen> monostone, btw, I only load glx
[20:04] <pen> monostone, your modules look fine just that glx I'm worried about
[20:05] <monostone> pen: i should have bought an nvidia card not an ATI one, since nvidia has open source drivers and ATI is proprietary, getting compiz, and direct rendering to work with ATI was another adventure, one i managed to solve though he
[20:05] <pen> monostone, so you have ati?
[20:05] <monostone> pen: yes, correct
[20:05] <pen> monostone, I see
[20:05] <pen> monostone, I rememebr ati has released the driver for linux?
[20:06] <shadowimmage> related question, Does intel have Open source drivers?
[20:06] <SebNaitsabes> maybe
[20:06] <SebNaitsabes> probably not
[20:06] <monostone> pen: are you meaning the radeon or ati drivers? those don't have good 3d support, the only driver which supports my x1650 pro model so far is the proprietary one, although in the near future the radeon driver will, cant wait till then
[20:06] <shadowimmage> and they're different from both ati and nvidia... right?
[20:07] <pen> monostone, have you tried envyng?
[20:07] <pen> monostone, it has the option to install ati driver for you
[20:07] <Slart> monostone: I wouldn't call nvidias drivers open source.. there's still a binary blob in there afaik.. but they work most of the time, ati's only work some of the time
[20:07] <s0u][ight> hi guys
[20:08] <Slart> monostone: or perhaps you're not talking about the nvidia binary driver..
[20:08] <monostone> pen: yes, i did, i also compiled the drivers myself, as well as recompiling the complete kernel and fglrx.ko module. But that isn't a problem i have it working through xserver-xgl, AIGLX isn't supported properly yet for my card
[20:08] <pen> monostone, oh
[20:08] <nixnoob> Slart: actually there are open source nvidia drivers and proprietary ones as is the case with ati, two versions, but ATI has started releasing the code for their proprietary version as well as the specs for their cards whereas the nvidia stuff is just reverse engineered....
[20:08] <pen> monostone, well, I don't think dri or glx would affect your mouse
[20:09] <leachim6> what is the name of the remote desktop client for ubuntu hardy
[20:09] <leachim6> it came with it
[20:09] <leachim6> but I don't remember the name of it
[20:09] <monostone> pen: ok, im restarting, ill be back in a second. Thank you for your pointers and help!!
[20:09] <pen> monostone, np
[20:09] <nixnoob> Slart: the only real difference that the end user can see is that the nvidia proprietary drivers just work better than ATI drivers for the newer cards. the older cards about the same.
[20:09] <Slart> nixnoob: mm.. I wonder when we'll see any results from ATI's new openess...soon, I hope
[20:09] <djhash> leachim6: VNC
[20:10] <leachim6> djhash, ... now ... it was a Microsoft Remote Desktop Protocol (tm) client
[20:10] <leachim6> *no
[20:10] <nixnoob> Slart: they are progressing quickly its only been about 6 months - 1 year and they are already catching up to nvidia, maybe another year or two before they are the best open source drivers for linux
[20:11] <nixnoob> Slart: AFAIK nvidia has no plans to open source their drivers
[20:11] <blumm_> i cant change desktops anymore via mouse-scroll or buttons down right, just via expo - why ?
[20:11] <leachim6> It's called "Terminal Services Client" in the menu
[20:12] <leachim6> what's the name of the bin
[20:12] <dts> I am trying to connect to a wired internet. It connects and i get an IP but then nothing happens after ,why could that be?
[20:12] <TtyS2> dts can u ping the gw add?
[20:12] <leachim6> it's tsclient .....
[20:13] <pen> can anyone change their epiphany browser settings?
[20:13] <pen> from about:config
[20:13] <djhash> dts: how are you trying to connect?
[20:13] <pen> i can only toggle the true/false value, but can't change the integer value
[20:14] <bob3213243> Hey guys, I am trying to allow windows vista to access my kubuntu so I can use Itunes to sync my music off the network.
[20:14] <leachim6> x xe
[20:14] <dts> djhash: just normal dhcp roaming
[20:14] <Jowi> pen, which value exactly?
[20:15] <bob3213243> I would just put it on my computer but it's 100+ gb of music.
[20:15] <nixnoob> bob3213243: i believe you need to install some driver in windows for it to see the ext2 filesystem
[20:15] <dts> TtyS2: i have to connect to it to try
[20:15] <dts> brb
[20:15] <nixnoob> bob3213243: there are tutorials on google if you search for them
[20:15] <pen> Jowi, mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.action
[20:16] <monostone> pen: ok, im back, it still didnt work, let me paste my Xorg.0.log file for you so you can see what happens. 1 moment please
[20:16] <pen> monostone, ok
[20:16] <bob3213243> nixnoob I've tried but I'm not sure what to search for.
[20:16] <bob3213243> nixnoob what kind of drivers?
[20:16] <nixnoob> bob3213243: "access ubuntu from windows"
[20:16] <cikarmadan> hi all
[20:16] <jbroome> ext2 driver windows
[20:16] <nixnoob> bob3213243: "access ubuntu partition from windows"
[20:17] <Jowi> pen, "mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.action, default, integer, 0" is its values for me. since it's an integer i can change it.
[20:17] <Kartagis> hoşçakalın / bye
[20:17] <cikarmadan> bb görüşürüz
[20:17] <pen> Jowi, strange isn't it? you can change that easily in ff
[20:17] <arooni-mobile> i think i screwed up pretty bad.  on a debian box i set it up so when you ssh in, you can only do it with your ssh key (no password based auth).  ok then i blew away my public id_rsa.pub keys.... am i totally hosed?  it's a vps so can they fix it?
[20:17] <nixnoob> bob3213243: there just like ntfs-3g drivers for ubuntu that allow ubuntu to see the ntfs file system used by windows just in reverse.
[20:17] <pen> Jowi, for you you can, but I can't
[20:17] <pen> Jowi, it would hang
[20:18] <pen> Jowi, but I can able to change the true/false value
[20:18] <cikarmadan> im a newbie, and i cant install .sh files by hand via terminal, i changed the file access options, did the chmod things but it still doesnt work:((
[20:19] <Jowi> pen, try closing all instances and restarting with "epiphany -p"
[20:19] <unavailable> ok so how do i stop the joins and quits in xchat
[20:19] <bob3213243> nixnoob is there a itunes for ubuntu? or something that will access firmware updates and music over the LAN.
[20:19] <djhash> cikarmadan:  are you doing it like this "./file.sh" or "file.sh"
[20:19] <nixnoob> bob3213243: is your music downloaded from itunes? or is it in mp3 format?
[20:19] <krsnadasa> hello all
[20:20] <xzenome> Hey, just a quick question: is it possible to have a playlist show when rhythmbox starts rather than Library>Music? Cheers
[20:20] <pen> Jowi, same thing
[20:20] <cikarmadan> i dunno, i just doing it by finding the exact locatin with cd commands and doing it like "file.sh"
[20:20] <unavailable> ok so how do i stop the joins and quits in xchat
[20:20] <ubunubi> can anyone help me resolve a make[3]: *** [install-libLTLIBRARIES] Error 1 , error. i've googled but can't find much helpful information
[20:20] <djhash> cikarmadan: you need to add the ./ before the file name
[20:20] <loffe> Hello. I can't get the mysql driver working on windows. I've managed to compile the plugin by this guide: http://wiki.qtcentre.org/index.php?title=Building_the_QMYSQL_plugin_on_Windows_using_MinGW But the driver still isn't available. Any idea?
[20:20] <cikarmadan> aight i'll try it thx
[20:20] <krsnadasa> i just installed the newest kernel on my machine and now i don't have any video or wireless drivers any help ?
[20:20] <blumm_> ubunubi: maybe you have to install libLTLIBRARIES ?
[20:21] <flea> i've never had a configure script fail like this,
[20:21] <Kx> cikarmadan, go into the file's directory from terminak and try doing ./file.sh
[20:21] <unavailable> ok so how do i stop the joins and quits in xchat
[20:21] <legend2440> unavailable: http://xchat-win32.berlios.de/setvars.html    /set irc_conf_mode 1  then may need to restart xchat.
[20:21] <ubunubi> blumm_: there isn't such a library, and the make, make check , all showed i had all the dependencies i need
[20:21] <krsnadasa> any ideas people ?
[20:21] <monostone> pen: here is all the relevant info, thank you for your time :) http://paste.mycodenow.com/view/437eab2a
[20:21] <bob3213243> nixnoob none of it is from itunes.
[20:22] <cottima> hello, I am having trouble with virtualbox
[20:22] <nixnoob> bob3213243: try using gtkpod
[20:22] <keewee> A friend of mine has a PC with a non-working Windows XP. The hard drive is partitioned and she has all her files in the second partition. Can I install Ubuntu on the Windows partition without deleting the other one?
[20:22] <krsnadasa> i just installed the newest kernel on my machine and now i don't have any video or wireless drivers any help ?
[20:23] <Kx> cottima, what troublle
[20:23] <xzenome> Hey, just a quick question: is it possible to have a playlist show when rhythmbox starts rather than Library>Music? Cheers
[20:23] <djhash> !patience
[20:23] <erpo> keewee: Yes, but always make backups. Always!
[20:23] <djhash> !repeat
[20:23] <cottima> Kx, the module is not loading.
[20:23] <loffe> keewee, You should be able to start ubuntu without installing it. It's a live cd
[20:23] <krsnadasa> any help any one just a little ?
[20:24] <jc> I can't sem to get chatzilla installed, it goes into an endless "restart firefox" mode but never gets installed can anyone help?
[20:24] <pen> monostone, try append this to your xorg.conf
[20:24] <pen> monostone, http://rafb.net/p/9GIDOz50.html
[20:24] <djhash> keewee: yes.. but to be on the safe side.. she might've left some stuff on desktop, or My documents, and they are usually in the windows partition.. just make a new partition.. then make sure you have all the files you need.. then you can remove the windows partition.
[20:24] <keewee> and how do I keep the files there? I mean... I know that I have to format the disk when installing, does Ubuntu recognize the partitioned disk and format only the first partition?
[20:25] <bob3213243> nixnoob i don't think it handles ipod touch.
[20:25] <krsnadasa> i just installed the newest kernel on my machine and now i don't have any video or wireless drivers any help ?
[20:25] <NemesisD> can someone please help me figure out why all gstreamer applications keep getting permissions issues or errors about "fakesinks" when trying to play audio? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778258 says its fixed by removing gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio but when i mark it for removal it tries to remove ubuntu-desktop as well for some stupid reason
[20:25] <bob3213243> is there any way to sync and Ipod touch.
[20:25] <bob3213243> is there any way to sync and Ipod touch in ubuntu.
[20:25] <XB23> hey guys , got ubuntu hanging on starting up saying 'starting kernel log deamon' [ok] but it wont go past that
[20:25] <djhash> keewee: you'll tell ubuntu on which partition to install to..
[20:26] <pen> monostone, also, try to use /input/by-path or by-id
[20:26] <keewee> djhash, she told me that she copied everything, so I'll not worry about that...
[20:26] <LinuxKitten> umm hi
[20:26] <krsnadasa> grrr
[20:26] <monostone> pen: ok, I will try that, now i have to leave for about 30min, if you leave, thank you once again. :)
[20:26] <krsnadasa> am i asking this question wrong or something ?
[20:26] <LinuxKitten> does anyone know how to find out if my driver is 32 bit
[20:26] <keewee> djhash, does it appear by the name? does it show the contents? how do I recognize it? (booting as live cd first?)
[20:27] <djhash> keewee: ok.. then just put in the livecd.. and follow the instructions.. you'll have no problems.. just make sure you pay attention to what partitions you're telling ubuntu to install to..
[20:27] <anirudh0> XB23, post /etc/init.d/rc
[20:27] <XB23> anirudh0 i cant it wont even let me start up
[20:27] <SuperScott> better question who's going to go see hellboy2
[20:27] <djhash> keewee: with the liveCD you should be able to see the partitions and even mount them.. and see their contents
[20:27] <krsnadasa> i just installed the newest kernel on my machine and now i don't have any video or wireless drivers any help ?
[20:27] <xzenome> !repeat
[20:27] <goanookie> krsnadasa, which vdeo and which wireless driver ?
[20:27] <jc> when you mount a network drive via Places>Connect to  server where does the drive end up on my file system?  I can see it in some progrograms but not others?
[20:27] <keewee> erpo, loffe, djhash... Thank you!
[20:28] <bob3213243> If I install virtualize OSX over ubuntu will I be able to sync my Ipod touch with itunes  off my ubuntu network? never tried it just wondering if anyone knows.
[20:28] <krsnadasa> goanookie: nvida 9300m
[20:28] <djhash> keewee: also you can tell the difference of partitions if they are different sizes.. that will be a clue..
[20:28] <Jowi> pen, can't find any info reg your problem
[20:28] <xzenome> krsnadasa, either no one knows why this has happened or they are busy with other people at the moment. Did you install the new kernel from the ubuntu repositories?
[20:28] <krsnadasa> xzenome: no from kernel.org
[20:28] <LinuxKitten> does anyone know how to find out if my driver is 32 bit
[20:28] <krsnadasa> goanookie: and the wireless is intel 4965
[20:28] <LinuxKitten> please
[20:29] <LinuxKitten> say my name if you have an answer
[20:29] <djhash> LinuxKitten: which driver?\
[20:29] <goanookie> krsnadasa, hm and you did that why?
[20:29] <LinuxKitten> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[20:29] <pen> Jowi, when I double click, the dialog would appeared blank and not responding to buttons like yes or cancel
[20:29] <krsnadasa> goanookie: new kerenel :)
[20:29] <nixnoob> im am slightly amused.
[20:30] <djhash> LinuxKitten: i believe it would be the same as your kernel..
[20:30] <LinuxKitten> djhash, huh?
[20:30] <krsnadasa> xzenome: the newest kernel in the ubuntu repositories is 2.6.24-19 right ? and that already comes with hardy
[20:30] <goanookie> krsnadasa, easiest way to solve it is boot the older kernel :)
[20:30] <unr3a1> hey all
[20:30] <Jowi> pen, and if you right click - do you get "modify" or "toggle" as an option?
[20:30] <djhash> LinuxKitten: "uname -r" in terminal
[20:30] <krsnadasa> goanookie: yea but how does that help me to run the new kernel ?
[20:31] <xzenome> krsnadasa, you will probably need to install and compile your drivers manually then because the defaults won't work.
[20:31] <LinuxKitten> djhash, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[20:31] <LinuxKitten> BAH
[20:31] <unr3a1> I am trying to install hydra, and I am getting some funky errors
[20:31] <LinuxKitten> djhash, 2.6.24-19-generic
[20:31] <pen> Jowi, yes
[20:31] <djhash> LinuxKitten:  that would be 32bit..
[20:31] <goanookie> krsnadasa, the fact that it is new, which often means some other part has a problem with the new kernel
[20:32] <LinuxKitten> djhash, do you know anything about secondlife?
[20:32] <gag> Could anyone tell me how to add my lcd flatron monitor to screen and graphic  monitors list...thank you
[20:32] <krsnadasa> xzenome: the ones that come with ubuntu won't work ?  isn't the mods the same i set the new kernel to copy the old kernels config
[20:32] <xzenome> krsnadasa, the current kernel version in hardy is 2.6.24-19
[20:32] <Dillizar> where can i find a divx conv.
[20:32] <pen> monostone, get it?
[20:32] <goanookie> like vmware modules, new kernel means compiling those vmware modules again
[20:32] <erpo> Dillizar: What's a divx conv?
[20:32] <djhash> LinuxKitten: sorry.. never tried it
[20:32] <LinuxKitten> djhash, kk
[20:32] <nixnoob> 3894234043812390213232391-3913913131330391-231-30
[20:32] <Jowi> pen, ...but you still can't change it? strange. it almost sound like a theme related problem (gtk theme that is).
[20:32] <tomtom42> divx converter?
[20:32] <Dillizar> erpo: divx converter
[20:32] <Dillizar> yes
[20:32] <Gogf> hey guys
[20:33] <Gogf> does this server only have op and voiced as user modes?
[20:33] <erpo> Dillizar: Convert divx to what?
[20:33] <krsnadasa> xzenome: yea thats what i was at but i wanted the newer kernel because all my hardware dosent work with the old kernel even though it seems that less is working with the newer one lol
[20:33] <Gogf> or is there an admin?
[20:33] <unr3a1> this is what is happing when I try to do make: URL: http://rafb.net/p/OgCscr29.html
[20:33] <pen> Jowi
[20:33] <Dillizar> from smt to divx
[20:33] <shadowimmage> so does anyone know about my oulseaudio thing... can it be uninstalled no prob?
[20:33] <pen> Jowi, oops
[20:33] <pen> Jowi, really?
[20:33] <bob3213243> If I install virtualize OSX over ubuntu will I be able to sync my Ipod touch with itunes  off my ubuntu network? never tried it just wondering if anyone knows.
[20:34] <dp_> is there any way to make Music Player *not* pop-up when I insert a CD?
[20:34] <cottima> Kx, I did a search for the kernel module files ("virtualbox-ose") and could not find them.
[20:34] <erpo> Dillizar: I don't know anything about smt. Sorry.
[20:34] <unr3a1> does anyone know what my issue is?
[20:34] <Jowi> pen, no idea though. can you login as a different user and see if that user has the same problem?
[20:34] <krsnadasa> goanookie: the question i have is this if my old kernel was running all the drivers fine and then i copy the config from that kernel to this new kernel shouldn't the mods/drivers from last kernel work ?
[20:34] <jbroome> bob3213243: i don't think virtualizing OSX is technically kosher
[20:34] <tomtom42> @db there should be some setting in the preferences to prevent autorun?
[20:34] <xzenome> krsnadasa, I'm not really a kernel expert so I couldn't tell you. But I was under the impression that kernels need to be exactly the same for mods to work. I'm stumped really.  I know if I was having your problem I'd recompile the drivers and go from there. I know that before drivers were managed in the repos that I had to do that a lot... Maybe someone else on here can be of more help.
[20:34] <bob3213243> jbroome it can't be done?
[20:34] <majortool> what is the default root password
[20:35] <majortool> ?
[20:35] <jbroome> !root | majortool
[20:35] <pen> Jowi, I'm the only user on this laptop
[20:35] <gag> how to add my lcd monitor to the SCREENS AND GRAPHICS LIST
[20:35] <Curtis> root
[20:35] <krsnadasa> xzenome: so i can't get the driver from the updates/ap-get in ubuntu any more ?
[20:35] <dr_Willis> majortool,  there is none. :)  your first user is the 'sudo enabled user'
[20:35] <dp_> !autorun | dp_
[20:35] <unr3a1> anyone?
[20:35] <SuperScott> can anybody point me to a well good basic linux starting guide
[20:35] <jbroome> bob3213243: legally, no
[20:35] <goanookie> krsnadasa, no you're running another kernel now
[20:36] <zhangchipku> !wine|zhangchipku
[20:36] <bob3213243> jbroome wait I own a copy. why can't I load it on linux?
[20:36] <dr_Willis> !training | SuperScott
[20:36] <jc> when you mount a network drive via Places>Connect to  server where does the drive end up on my file system?  I can see it in some progrograms but not others?
[20:36] <majortool> dr_Willis, >:|  what kind of hippy distro is this :)
[20:36] <goanookie> krsnadasa, well copying the config file can work but also not work, but I do recall there is a way to import an old config fie
[20:36] <tomtom42> there are lots of good linux guides over at TLDP
[20:36] <jil2> guys... my ubuntu desktop always show error when starts - ISD-server error.... etc..
[20:36] <krsnadasa> goanookie: that sucks, so i just need to get the nvidia drivers from xx.com and then recompile
[20:36] <Jowi> pen, create a new user and login with that new user account. to see if it is an application problem or if there is a setting in your user account that is a bit off
[20:36] <jil2> why?
[20:36] <goanookie> krsnadasa, an option when launching kernelconfig
[20:36] <dr_Willis> majortool,  one that takes security very seriously
[20:36] <SuperScott> word thanks willis
[20:36] <xzenome> krsnadasa: as far as I know, you can only use the drivers in the repositories if you use the kernel that is also from the repositories. Could you not wait it out until the next release of ubuntu or is the lack of hardware support critical?
[20:36] <pen> Jowi, isn't there a place where I can change the settings in about:config?
[20:36] <jbroome> bob3213243: the ins and outs of the apple EULA aren't really ontopic for #ubuntu
[20:37] <krsnadasa> goanookie: i did import the old config file already but i guess i will need to recompile like what you said
[20:37] <pen> Jowi, just like firefox
[20:37] <majortool> dr_Willis, communists
[20:37] <goanookie> krsnadasa, I'm afraid you have no other choice then recompile
[20:37] <dr_Willis> majortool,  Hippie Communists... sure.. whatever. :P
[20:37] <unr3a1> I guess not
[20:37] <goanookie> which is also a reason not to upgrade each kernel version
[20:37] <Jowi> pen, yes. it works just like firefox. I can change the settings with no problem at all.
[20:37] <krsnadasa> xzenome: not crucial but you learn by hacking away right ;)
[20:38] <goanookie> I rather wait a bit, and see if no problems arise
[20:38] <pen> Jowi, I mean a text file
[20:38] <pen> Jowi, firefox store those settings in a text file
[20:38] <pen> Jowi, how about epiphany?
[20:38] <xzenome> krsnadasa, yes you do. Unfortunately what I most commonly learn is that I need to do a clean ubuntu install though :P
[20:38] <krsnadasa> goanookie: fare enough so off to nvidia driver hunt i go.... could i use envy with the new kernel to get the right drivers or no ?
[20:38] <krsnadasa> xzenome: lol fare enough thanks for your help anyway
[20:39] <gag> Which release i choose...... Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition - Supported to 2011   Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server Edition - Supported to 2013
[20:39] <goanookie> gag depends on what usage you got
[20:39] <seisen> what are using a desktop or server, gag?
[20:39] <Jowi> pen, epiphany uses gconf I'm afraid. ~/.gconf/apps/epiphany - or use gconf-editor
[20:39] <goanookie> or more easy with or without gui
[20:39] <Ienorand> Is the point release of ubuntu auto-installed via updates?
[20:40] <bob3213243_> Okay, can some please explain to me why if I own a copy of OSX I can't virtualize it!?
[20:40] <pen> Jowi, it's not in gconf either
[20:40] <gag> hmm...what are the differents between those 2 ....sorri
[20:40] <pen> Jowi, I have checked app/epiphany
[20:40] <majortool> dr_Willis, yes, all ubuntu users are communists
[20:40] <goanookie> gag, desktop vs server
[20:40] <Ienorand> bob3213243_: Apple wants it that way.
[20:40] <krsnadasa> goanookie: so envy won't help any ?
[20:40] <xzenome> krsnadasa, I'm not exactly sure how envy works, but if it compiles the driver itself then it should be fine. give it a try :)
[20:41] <gag> goanookie i think desktop
[20:41] <XB23> hey guys , got ubuntu hanging on starting up saying 'starting kernel log deamon' [ok] but it wont go past that
[20:41] <goanookie> bob3213243 well vmware and ubuntu on mac :)
[20:41] <djhash> bob3213243_: you might be able to or not.. it is not a topic to be discussed in this chat room. You might be better off trying #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:42] <krsnadasa> xzenome: ok cool
[20:42] <zhangchipku> bob3213243_: vmware can virtualize osx as freebsd'
[20:42] <Pici> !offtopic
[20:42]  * goanookie shivers a vritual os x 
[20:43] <goanookie> -the typo :)
[20:43] <Rudy> que onda
[20:43] <sili_> F Jdwlkr
[20:43] <krsnadasa> xzenome: ubuntu has a testing version with newer kernel ?
[20:43] <djhash> !english | Rudy
[20:43] <sili_> in the goatazz
[20:43] <Jowi> pen, about:config should work. if it doesn't there's something wrong with either the install or something else. to verify I would create a new user and login with that to see if that user has got the same problem.
[20:43] <Jowi> pen, i really don't have any other ideas
[20:44] <Guest33627> whas up
[20:44] <sili_> yer
[20:44] <sili_> i said it
[20:44] <goanookie> krsnadasa, sure they do have it, and available in the repository
[20:44]  * sili_ sees what you did there.
[20:44] <pen> Jowi, I'm surprised that epiphany don't have the freedom to customize it's settings
[20:44] <Guest33627> whas up
[20:44] <djhash> !hi
[20:44] <goanookie> krsnadasa, but you got to enable that repository
[20:44] <Jowi> pen, I'm not. it's a gnome project :)
[20:44] <sili_> im trying to run ubuntu on my shower curtain
[20:44] <sili_> can i has some helps?
[20:44] <krsnadasa> goanookie: how do i do that ?
[20:45] <pen> Jowi, what you mean....are you KDE fan?
[20:45] <djhash> sili_: try inserting the liveSoap.
[20:45] <krsnadasa> goanookie: do you download the iso (testing) or just switch it up in the pakages and upgrade ?
[20:45] <Jowi> pen, Gnome is famous for restricting options. I like epiphany alot.
[20:45] <xzenome> krsnadasa, I don't think a newer kernel is in hardy-backports. It might be in the new development release but that's probably not that stable yet (I think it's being released in October)
[20:45] <sili_> livesoap Ahhhh
[20:45] <sili_> i was using loofa v2.0 bet0r
[20:46] <goanookie> krsnadasa, there is an article in the wiki about how to run development versions
[20:46] <krsnadasa> xzenome: oh so i still got some time even if i wanted to get the testing version?
[20:46] <pen> Jowi, oh, ok
[20:46] <gwardone> what's the difference between server edition and desktop edition?
[20:46] <unavailable> server installs via text mode
[20:46] <krsnadasa> goanookie: the development version support/use a higher kernel ?
[20:47] <Pici> gwardone: Server edition does not have a graphical environment by default and it uses a server optimized kernel.
[20:47] <Kx> gwardone, you probably need desktop edition
[20:47] <unavailable> server is text mode
[20:47] <Jowi> pen, bbl. good luck
[20:47] <Guest33627> how many cost the Redhat linux
[20:47]  * unavailable was thinking of the alt cd for a min
[20:47] <xzenome> krsnadasa, no, the testing version is around now, it just won't be released as stable until October.
[20:47] <Pici> gwardone: The server install CD also has options to install apache and similar server type tools by default.
[20:47] <zhangchipku> !server|gwardone
[20:47] <bogey-> !offtopic | Guest33627
[20:47] <gwardone> Pici: do you think sudo for server is necessary or just plain su is in there?
[20:47] <goanookie> krsnadasa, indeed but same thing for modules they need to be recompiled
[20:47] <Pici> gwardone: The sudo philosophy is the same across all Ubuntu install types.
[20:48] <pen> Jowi, :|
[20:48] <Delts> Hey, need some help with DVD playback
[20:48] <jil2> what is ISD server error means?
[20:48] <goanookie> krsnadasa, compiling a kernel is always two fold, the kernel and the modules
[20:48] <legend2440> XB23: that can be very hard to solve. is this something new that just started? can you boot in recovery mode?
[20:48] <jil2> system always show this on loading DE
[20:48] <krsnadasa> goanookie: i see, is there a way to recompile the old modules against the new kernel or do i have to download the drivers from thier individual sites?
[20:48] <Delts> I did a fresh install last night, added the restricted drivers and it worked fine
[20:48] <unavailable> so is there any way to change all the colors in xchat like the room list and people list and the gui itself?
[20:48] <Nofear-Tn> dpkg-reconfigure squid3 --enable-linux-netfilter  is not working how reconfigure with ubuntu plz
[20:48] <XB23> legend2440: just trying recovery mode now
[20:49] <djhash> Pici: installing x-server on the server edition of ubuntu is straight forward right?
[20:49] <akatsuki> hello is there any good open-source virtual machine software? vmware is good but it cost.. anybody?
[20:49] <Delts> Today some aren't mounting and those that are give errors
[20:49] <ks3> akatsuki: virtualbox
[20:49] <XB23> vmware is free akatsuki
[20:49] <goanookie> krsnadasa, if you have the source it is just a matter of a recompile
[20:49] <unavailable> akatsuki www.virtualbox.org
[20:49] <unop> djhash, right
[20:49] <ubunubi> do you need to install samba on a client machine, to access network shares in hardy?
[20:49] <unavailable> akatsuki i would suggest the sun version not ose
[20:49] <Pici> djhash: Sure.  But be warned, the server kernel does not have any restricted modules.
[20:49] <akatsuki> does virtualbox support 64bit os?
[20:49] <krsnadasa> goanookie: yea but in the case of ubuntu's pre pakages then no
[20:49] <unavailable> !vb
[20:49] <unavailable> !vbox
[20:50] <Guest33627> what is offtopic?
[20:50] <unop> ubuntulog, you need a samba client
[20:50] <unop> ubunubi, ^^
[20:50] <krsnadasa> !offtopic
[20:50] <djhash> unop, Pici: thanks... now I can actually transform my Ubuntu desktop.. that i've been using as a server.. to an Ubuntu server... :-) then I can mess around with it.. hehe
[20:50] <akatsuki> thanks for the info guys
[20:50] <xzenome> krsnadasa, you should be able to upgrade to 8.10 by typing "update-manager -d" into the terminal. No guarantees about how well it'll go though. A clean install from the testing ISOs might turn out easier thouhg.
[20:50] <ubunubi> unop:: is there a common client available in the repos?
[20:50] <jil2> my ubuntu always show "ISD server error", why?
[20:51] <akatsuki> this is for a class i have.. about windows and linux parallel
[20:51] <krsnadasa> xzenome: thanks again sir ;)
[20:51] <unavailable> guest33627 talking about other distros than ubuntu (like redhat) would be considered offtopic for #ubuntu  you may want to try looking for #redhat or something like that
[20:51] <akatsuki> its much easier to install vmware or other software to windows then to install linux on top of it. but im trying to install windows on top of linux :)
[20:51] <unop> ubunubi, nautilus is a samba client, but you can install smbclient and libsmbclient
[20:52] <goanookie> akatsuki, the lateste ubuntu installs just fine on windows
[20:52] <ubunubi> unop:: k, that's what i needed to know, thanks.
[20:52] <unavailable> akatsuki i had no problems installing windows in ubuntu (xp, and 2000  do not do 98  its sloooooow)
[20:52] <akatsuki> thx unavailable
[20:52] <raypruit> irc://irc.undernet.org:6667/xxxpasswordz
[20:52] <gag> i cannot burn cd.s...it stop when burned like half cd...what software is welcome to burn cd easyly..........THANK YOU!
[20:52] <djhash> jil2: did you install edubuntu?
[20:52] <fiXXXerMet> I'm installing ubuntu via the alternate CD now.  Will it pick up my windows partitions on /dev/sda and setup the boot loader correctly?
[20:52] <unavailable> akatsuki something having to do with either the dos 16 bit crap
[20:52] <akatsuki> actually i have vista but i will try xp.. vista is also slow
[20:53] <Exilant> that composite/flickering opengl apps isn't solved for ati cards, or is it?
[20:53] <akatsuki> i see
[20:53] <zhangchipku> akatsuki: vista works too. vbox is easier to use than vmware
[20:53] <akatsuki> i see
[20:53] <djhash> Exilant: what ATI card do you have?
[20:53] <Exilant> rv350
[20:53] <ubunubi> fiXXXerMet: XP or vista?
[20:53] <unavailable> akatsuki just make sure after you install your os to install "guest additions"
[20:53] <akatsuki> but i have the 64bit version
[20:53] <fiXXXerMet> ubunubi: XP
[20:53] <akatsuki> seems vbox does not support 64
[20:53] <akatsuki> i will try xp
[20:54] <Exilant> i tried both the opensource driver and the closed-source one
[20:54] <akatsuki> ok
[20:54] <zhangchipku> akatsuki: vmware supports 64
[20:54] <ubunubi> fiXXXerMet: AFAIK, if you're installing grub to your MBR, yes it will detect the windows xp, and set a grub menu item for booting to it
[20:54] <Pici> #vbox is the proper place to be discussing VirtualBox issues
[20:54] <unavailable> lol
[20:54] <fiXXXerMet> super, thanks
[20:54] <djhash> fiXXXerMet: yes it will..
[20:54] <jc> how does ubuntu mount smb://something when it done in nautalis?
[20:54] <unavailable> srry pici
[20:54] <Ienorand> How do i get the UUID for a partition?
[20:54] <djhash> !prefix
[20:54] <akatsuki> are you sure vmware its free?
[20:54] <Pici> Ienorand: sudo blkid
[20:54] <akatsuki> my instructor told me it was just a trial
[20:54] <pl1> can somebody help me with installing netbeans on hardy ? synaptic tell me that some packages are missing and with apt-get install an error comes up..
[20:55] <ubunubi> jc:: using gvfs (gnome virtual file system)
[20:55] <akatsuki> and i prefer to use an open source software just for support
[20:55] <akatsuki> you know
[20:55] <akatsuki> but well
[20:55] <unop>  jc , it uses a virtual mount point in the gnome volume service
[20:55] <akatsuki> i will try both
[20:55] <zhangchipku> akatsuki: can can create one with a trial version and than use the free player to virtualize it
[20:55] <Pici> akatsuki: Please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere, this is not ubuntu support related
[20:55] <akatsuki> ok
[20:56] <unop> pl1, post your apt-get output to a !pastebin
[20:56] <trakinas> Ienorand: chattr if Im not wrong
[20:56] <Dark_Shadow> hi i want to add the weather like in my desktop like when i was under windows
[20:56] <Ienorand> How do I get the UUID for a partition? or alternatively, how do I rebuild my fstab?
[20:56] <pl1> ..uff it's so much and german!
[20:56] <unop> Ienorand, pici answered your question
[20:56] <trakinas> Ienorand: http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/short-tip-get-uuid-of-hard-disks/
[20:56] <idorock89> ﻿anyone here knows how I can get garfield comic on my ubuntu desktop?
[20:57] <unop> Ienorand, sudo blkid /dev/sdXX
[20:57] <Ienorand> oh sorry
[20:57] <idorock89> I love garfield so want it
[20:57] <legend2440> |enorand  sudo blkid in terminal
[20:57] <idorock89> ?
[20:57] <Splex> anyone having troubles with the new ati drivers with fullscreen apps like gnome-screensaver?
[20:57] <djhash> Splex: hmm.. i have the new ati drivers.. never tried gnome-screensavers... let me try.. any one in particular?
[20:57] <Exilant> Splex: me
[20:57] <trakinas> idorock89: dont know. how are garfield strips loaded in other os?
[20:58] <jdwlkr> has anyone had the problem of smb mounts putting the contents of the mount in your trash?
[20:58] <unop> pl1, german is ok, i can translate --, you can do this if the output is quite long.  which pastebinit || sudo apt-get install pastebinit &&  apt-get install netbeans
[20:58] <idorock89> well in kubuntu 4 with plasma you can't set it as a widget
[20:58] <unop> pl1, and give us the URL the command returns
[20:58] <Dark_Shadow> hi i want to add the weather like in my desktop like when i was under windows
[20:58] <Dark_Shadow> :/
[20:58] <idorock89> how do you do this in gnome in ubuntu please give me garfield
[20:59] <zhangchipku> Dark_Shadow: try screenlets
[20:59] <Splex> djhash:  try helios
[20:59] <trakinas> Dark_Shadow: loads of options. my favourite is adesklets
[20:59] <zaggy-nl> search synaptic
[20:59] <Dark_Shadow> thx brothers
[20:59] <Splex> Exilant: do you have troubles with full screen apps?  When I leave a full screen app, my desktop is corrupted
[20:59] <idorock89> someone please help me
[20:59] <unop> jdwlkr, i am not sure remote files are meant to go into your trash -- the reason being, if a remote file is 100GB in size and you delete it, nautilus has to copy the file over to your harddisk, which is really unnecessary
[21:00] <ra21vi> how can i know which package contains the readlink which i installed
[21:00] <djhash> Splex: Exilant: it works fine for me..
[21:00] <unop> ra21vi, dpkg -S $(which readlink)
[21:00] <ra21vi> apt-cache search readlink gives 3 package name
[21:00] <mmmlinux> .connect irc.techcentric.org
[21:00] <Splex> for example, when i leave helios gnome-screensaver  i cannot see the popup window to type my password... if i somehow get out of it, my graphics are all corrupted with squares, etc
[21:00] <ra21vi> unop: ok
[21:00] <unop> ra21vi, or dpkg -S /path/to/readlink
[21:00] <Exilant> Splex: not that kind of problems, just the flickering
[21:01] <Splex> Exilant: you mean the compiz flickering with 3d apps?
[21:01] <gwardone> is the bare minimum of gnome installed in default?
[21:01] <Exilant> djhash: what diver are you using, fglrx or ati?
[21:01] <Exilant> splex: yes
[21:01] <jdwlkr> unop my problem is I have a few ntfs shares mounted via fstab and for some reason every file I view on that share appears in my trash, if I empty my trash it deletes the file from the share
[21:01] <Splex> djhash: exilant: btw, i have compiz disabled when im testing
[21:01] <ubunubi> gwardone: not really. it has a basic set of apps/media player, etc
[21:01] <idorock89> please help me to get garfield on my desktop in ubuntu I could do this in plasma in kde4 asa a widget anyone knows a stable of getting comics on desktop in ubuntu with gnome
[21:01] <idorock89> ?
[21:01] <Decepticon> help i apt-getted apache2 and i can see "it works!" message on the www. I tried to apt-get install awstats, i did it, and im not sure if there is a setup require because i dont see anything at localhost/awstats/awstats.pl
[21:01] <Splex> Exilant: djhash: Are you using the latest driver through EnvyNg?
[21:02] <ra21vi> unop: ok, coreutils.. is coreutil intially installed in fresh system automatically.. on minimal base ubntu system
[21:02] <unop> jdwlkr, ouch, are you sure you aren't deleting those files inadvertently ?
[21:02] <ra21vi> unop: like ubuntu server installation
[21:02] <jdwlkr> yes 100% sure
[21:02] <unop> ra21vi, it is installed on all versions of ubuntu
[21:02] <Exilant> splex, no idea
[21:02] <jdwlkr> i actually found it by accident
[21:02] <djhash> Exilant: what i am using is simply after I installed ubuntu.. i used restricted drivers.. and installed it.. i belive that would be ATI drivers..
[21:02] <unop> jdwlkr, i think you ought to compile a bug-report then -- this does not sound right
[21:02] <Exilant> yes, me too
[21:03] <jdwlkr> all of the technology department at my office uses ubuntu 8.04 and we are all having this problem
[21:03] <Exilant> though i used the kde restricted-driver stuff
[21:03] <trakinas> googled
[21:03] <trakinas> ?
[21:03] <jdwlkr> unop i am getting ready to file said report
[21:03] <ra21vi> unop: i am just finding if this coreutil is installed on all sort of these linux systems.. cuz my script calls readline to find the absolute path of the script running.. but on client side, they reportd error that readlink is not found.. I thought it is automatically installed
[21:04] <Splex> djhash: im talking about the latest drivers you can get with envyng
[21:04] <jdwlkr> if I do a smbmount and not mount through fstab this problem does not occur
[21:04] <Odd-rationale> are any of the videos from GUADEC 2008 available to watch? I'm rather interested in seeing this "GNOME 3.0" speech...
[21:04] <idorock89> Odd-rationale:  I wanna too
[21:04] <trakinas> idorock89: you could install screenlets + karamba garfield widget
[21:04] <idorock89> if anyone has
[21:04] <djhash> Splex: I know.. i dont use envyNG.. i use the drivers provided by ATI..
[21:04] <idorock89> please tell
[21:04] <idorock89> trakinas: I have screenlets
[21:04] <pl1> unop sorry for my noobnes, but i'm stuck with the command : sudo pastebinit || sudo apt-get install pastebinit &&  apt-get install netbeans..it say , are you root ?
[21:04] <unop> ra21vi, coreutils contains many necessary binaries -- infact, all the common unix/linux commands such as sed, awk, tee, etc are part of this package -- without it, linux would be dysfunctional
[21:05] <idorock89> now how do I get karamaba garfield
[21:05] <idorock89> and also will it be stable
[21:05] <idorock89> ?
[21:05] <Splex> djhash: envyng fetches the latest ati drivers, its just an install script
[21:05] <trakinas> idorock89: probably
[21:05] <Splex> djhash: which driver version are you using?
[21:05] <unop> pl1, err, my bad.    sudo pastebinit || sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo apt-get install netbeans
[21:06] <LiENUS> is ipv6 connectivity still an issue with ubuntu 8.04?
[21:06] <holzi> hello i have an error at fmware prallel port is used by another programm....
[21:06] <unop> pl1, err, bad command, actually, just run   sudo apt-get install netbeans
[21:06] <LiENUS> ie should i disable ipv6 if i dont use it still or have the issues been solved?
[21:07] <holzi> is it psoible to shut down lp0 temporarily?
[21:07] <FLATRON> Could anyone tell me how to get my LG L197WH to linux ubuntu  Screen And Graphics Preferences Model list....plsss answer who know...!!!
[21:07] <unop> pl1, i'm not concentrating very well today.  if you get errors on that apt-get command .. then rerun it this way.    sudo apt-get install netbeans | pastebinit
[21:08] <saschahl> LiENUS: what kind of issues? usually ipv6 should not bother anybody when enabled.
[21:08] <unop> holzi, what is lp0 ? a network interface?
[21:08] <djhash> Splex: how do i find out!!
[21:08] <LiENUS> saschahl, the user logged in and gaim/firefox said the internet was down
[21:08] <chase> hi
[21:08] <saschahl> LiENUS: weird. never had that in any Ubuntu version
[21:08] <holzi> unop: parallel pot
[21:08] <LiENUS> but i was still logged in remotely via ssh
[21:09] <Splex> djhash: try running fglrxinfo
[21:09] <chase> i'm trying to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop from a headless machine using an iso on a flash disk
[21:09] <chase> and i can't get it to work
[21:09] <LiENUS> saschahl, he logged out then back in and it worked
[21:09] <unop> LiENUS, you need to make sure that your network-manager applet reports you connected to a network
[21:09] <LiENUS> i had just restarded gdm trying to get acceleration working with the ati xorg driver
[21:09] <ian6> hey... is there a known issue with the fglrx ATI driver and Hardy? With everything up to date, turning on the fglrx driver gives me a black screen as soon as I restart X. Hard locked, numlock button won't blink. I looked on launchpad, but the only thing that looks close is marked as fixed.
[21:09] <pl1> unop: it say , no arguments specified..
[21:09] <LiENUS> unop, i was logged in remotely via ssh
[21:09] <djhash> Splex:  2.1.7412
[21:09] <saschahl> AFAIK the network manager says the network is down if you only have IPv6 assigned but no IPv4
[21:09] <Dasuraga> Is there a way to automatically reinstall all codecs?
[21:09] <unop> chase, that won't work - you need a proper apt-get repository, not one fashioned out of an ISO file
[21:09] <chase> i have deb file:/path/to/mounted/iso/
[21:10] <chase> in my sources.list
[21:10] <Dasuraga> without manually going through apt-get remove
[21:10] <unop> pl1,    this is all one command.    sudo apt-get install netbeans | pastebinit
[21:10] <pl1> unop: ahh ok : http://pastebin.com/f12389cf0
[21:10] <Anontom>  /server irc.mancfags.com
[21:10] <Anontom> fuck..
[21:10] <Kx> ian6, can you try turning compositing off
[21:10] <trakinas> Dasuraga: apt-get --reinstall install pack
[21:10] <unop> LiENUS, is it working now?
[21:10] <chase> unop: why can't i add it as an source
[21:10] <Splex> djhash: im running 2.1.7659
[21:11] <trakinas> but theres no way to do it without doing anything... if you know what i mean
[21:11] <LiENUS> unop, after he logged out then back in it worked
[21:11] <LiENUS> i never got disconnected tho
[21:11] <unop> chase, because the ISO is not constructed in a way that a repository is
[21:11] <ian6> Kx: is it on by default? It's not something I would have enabled.
[21:11] <djhash> Splex: i guess maybe its the new drivers?!!
[21:11] <chase> unop: how can i get ubuntu-desktop and gdm installed from the iso?
[21:11] <Splex> btw, people are reporting on the ubuntuforums that this new version eliminates the compiz flickering
[21:11] <Kx> ian6, i am hoping you are on kde4 ?
[21:12] <djhash> Splex: what compiz flickering?
[21:12] <ian6> Kx: 3
[21:12] <jc> unop: so is the mount point accessable from the command line?
[21:12] <Drk_Guy> !kde | ian6
[21:12] <Splex> djhash: when running 3d apps while compiz fusion is running
[21:12] <chad_> hello
[21:12] <jc> unop: so is the mount point accessable from the command line?
[21:12] <unop> chase, to be completely honest, there is no way to do it with an ISO
[21:12] <Drk_Guy> !kubuntu | ian6
[21:12] <FLATRON> downloaded Ubuntu 8.04 how to install it_
[21:12] <jasperus> well
[21:12] <ian6> why are you telling me about kde and kubuntu?
[21:12] <jasperus> you can install from inside windows
[21:12] <sotec_prod> Alright, I haven't been in here in quite some time, but I am curious as to why with Compiz enabled (using Nvidia 8600GT) I can't watch videos online.
[21:13] <unop> jc, the mount point is not available from the command line, no
[21:13] <jasperus> or burn it
[21:13] <jasperus> and install it
[21:13] <djhash> Splex: I never tried any 3d apps... if the screensaver is considered a 3d apps.. i didn't see any flickering... when switched to full screen..
[21:13] <sotec_prod> I have to disable compiz, and even still, a lot of video online won't play
[21:13] <chase> there's no way to install packages from the iso from the command line??
[21:13] <sotec_prod> is it an Ubuntu thing, or a video card issue?
[21:13] <Rumple1> Question: I am trying to use the Terminal Service Client to control an XP machine, the XP machine has a static IP, port forwarding set up and allows remote connections. However when I try to connect I get  a 'connection refused' error. What could be wrong and how do I fix it?
[21:13] <unop> pl1, can you give us the url this returns too?   pastebinit < /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:13] <Splex> sotec_prod: which driver are you using?
[21:13] <sotec_prod> Splex, good question, I'll find out
[21:13] <SkinnYPup> pastebin.org or .ca
[21:14] <pl1> unop : http://pastebin.com/f75941ce0
[21:14] <AdvoWork> anyone know where the pgdata symbolic link is at all?
[21:14] <jasperus> FLATR0N
[21:14] <unop> chase, no, unfortunately -- the ISO file does not have .deb files of most/many packages that your APT can use
[21:14] <jasperus> read what i said above if you are still here
[21:14] <gwardone> what sites do majority of packages come from?  ex: freshmeat, sf...
[21:14] <roger_rabbit> Hello everyone
[21:14] <sotec_prod> Splex, 169.12
[21:14] <unop> chase, unless it is an alternative ISO
[21:14] <Splex> Rumple1: is the xp machine behind a firewall?
[21:14] <Splex> sotec_prod: do you use EnvyNg?
[21:15] <jc> unop: so if a program is not "aware" of gvfs natively then are you out of luck?
[21:15] <sotec_prod> Splex, No.
[21:15] <Rumple1> Splex: I disabled the machines XP firewall completely.
[21:15] <chase> ah man... that's too bad, because i can't seem to get the wireless to work
[21:15] <sotec_prod> I used the driver that came with Ubu8.04
[21:15] <holzi_> how to shut down lp0 temporarily?
[21:15] <chase> and it's not even encrypted wireless
[21:15] <unop> jc, pretty much - yes
[21:15] <Splex> sotec_prod:  try it out, works well at getting the most up to date driver... the drivers provided with ubuntu are not the most up to date
[21:15] <edugonch> hello, is there a way to unzip a file or a group of files creating a new directory named as the file?
[21:15] <sotec_prod> Thanks Splex, I'll give it a shot and report back.
[21:16] <unop> holzi, see if the lp0 module is loaded.   lsmod | grep -i lp
[21:16] <Splex> sotec_prod: np
[21:16] <jc> unop: bummer, thanks, I'll have to mount the stuff the regular way then
[21:16] <unop> pl1, are you running hardy at the moment? did you upgrade from edgy to hardy?
[21:16] <shadowimmage> is it safe to uninstall pulseaudio so that there isn't a conflict with WINE?
[21:16] <roger_rabbit> does anybody have experience getting a nividi video card and a pci ati card to work in dual display mode with open source dirvers ?
[21:16] <SkinnYPup> ZIP create the folder first and then choose it as the location you want to unzip in to
[21:16] <Splex> Rumple1: are you doing so across a LAN?
[21:17] <chase> on headless, what do i have to do to get the internet to work besides "iwconfig eth1 essid networkname"?
[21:17] <ks3> jc: you could check your ~/.gvfs folder; I believe some of the mounts show up under there
[21:17] <Rumple1> Splex: No, over the internet.
[21:17] <Philian> Hey i'm having a problem with installing ubuntu from cd. More specifically, when i booted from cd and chose to install it, afte the bar fills up it goes to the console/terminal
[21:17] <Philian> I did not download the alternate version.
[21:17] <Splex> Rumple1: so the xp box is connected directly without a firewall?
[21:17] <roger_rabbit> have you tested the cd Philian ?
[21:17] <Splex> Rumple1: i mean, firewall/router
[21:17] <Philian> oh no i havent
[21:17] <Froobster> lolwut
[21:17] <Rumple1> ﻿Splex: It is behind a linksys router.
[21:17] <sotec_prod> Splex, envyng-gtk or -qt?
[21:17] <Arkbuntu> lolwut?
[21:17] <Philian> alright, I'll try that now
[21:17] <pl1> unop: upgraded from feisty running hardy now... ,the packages are missing right? .. i think i will try it by myself now again, and just paste server in that file right ?
[21:18] <Splex> sotec_prod, if you are running gnome, get the gtk
[21:18] <jc> ks3: did that hopping it would be there, nodice
[21:18] <sotec_prod> Splex, thanks again
[21:18] <Splex> Rumple1: verify your port forwarding on the router
[21:18] <mbrigdan> how can I change the error high-lighting colour in kdevelop?
[21:18] <Splex> sotec_prod, np, let me know how it goes
[21:18] <jtrag> anyone know how to install KDE3 on Ubuntu?  I can only find KDE4...
[21:18] <unop> pl1, no, you need to comment out these edgy repos you still have enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list -- then run something like.   sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude install netbeans
[21:19] <pl1> unop: okey..
[21:19] <FLATRON> jasperus i burned 8.04 to cd....when booting what buttons needed to hit to get ubuntu 8.04 installition menu....thank you
[21:19] <Splex> btw, to all that have a linksys router, i highly recommend getting the tomato firmware, really awesome : http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato
[21:19] <sotec_prod> installing new drivers now
[21:20] <ninjacat> how do i download auto clicker??
[21:20] <chase> on headless, what do i have to do to get the internet to work besides "iwconfig eth1 essid networkname"?
[21:20] <Jonn> hello all.. i've got an issue with my sound card since upgrading from gutsy to hardy... any ideas how i find out what's wrong?
[21:20] <psycose> i would like to get gcc-4.3 on Ubuntu Hardy is it possible to get a deb package ? thanks ...
[21:21] <roger_rabbit> ?
[21:21] <unop> edugonch, maybe like this.   for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i" -d "${i%.*}"; done
[21:21] <ninjacat> How do I download autoclicker/autotyper?
[21:21] <pl1> unop: only the one in row 24 right ?
[21:21] <sotec_prod> Wow, I like this Envy program. Is this the same Envy as existed on Feisty? It used to be a third party program, no?
[21:21] <unop> edugonch, that's untested, so please make backups, or do this in a test directory before actually using it
[21:21] <fiXXXerMet> OK, ubuntu finished installing.  I did 3 partitions.  Raid 1 for /boot, swap, and then another raid 1 for /.  After rebooting, I get an "Error 17" when grub tries to load
[21:21] <edugonch> Thanks ;)
[21:22] <edugonch> it works
[21:22] <jasperus> envy is for video card drivers ya?
[21:22] <Guiri> hey guys. I have Ubuntu 64 installed on a dell laptop with 4GB of RAM. The bios confirms 4 GB of ram, but the top command shows 3.3 GB..
[21:22] <unop> pl1, and 14 and 15 too
[21:22] <Guiri> can anyone offer a solution?
[21:22] <sotec_prod> jasperus, yea
[21:22] <Splex> jasperus: yes
[21:22] <Splex> envyng
[21:22] <Splex> works awesome
[21:22] <pl1> have a # already..or not ?
[21:22] <Jonn> envy is pretty cool
[21:22] <SkinnYPup>  fiXXXerMet: google reinstall grub ubuntu
[21:22] <jasperus> hmm well ubuntu did my video card drivers for me
[21:22] <FLATRON> when booting system which buttons needed to hit to get ubuntu 8.04 installition menu..........burned 8.04 ubuntu to cd...pls answer ANYONE
[21:22] <sotec_prod> I'm digging it Splex, thanks for the heads up. I would have never used this because I know it had issues in the Feisty days.
[21:22] <Rumple1> Splex: I have comfirmed the port forwarding set up, I followed the guide on http://portforward.com/routers.htm
[21:22] <Splex> sotec_prod: its been around for quite a while now,  its really brilliant
[21:22] <Guiri> !memory
[21:23] <ASULutzy> fiXXXerMet: I've never read a single thing that said using raid1 for swap was a good idea, they all explicitly say not to. As far as not booting, maybe you forgot to do grub-install on the raid
[21:23] <unop> pl1, err, sorry, they are already comment out -- so yea, just 24
[21:23] <KDB9000> hello everyone, I am having some with DVD playback on my dv5000. Either the program eats all my resources and runs really slow or the playback is choppy. It is an AMD64 at 2 GHz and 1 GB of RAM (running ubuntu 8.04 32-bit).
[21:23] <pl1> nkey
[21:23] <sotec_prod> reboot. brb
[21:23] <ninjacat> if anybody can help me download autoclicker pm me...
[21:23] <rockenrola1> humm, when my network fails and reconnects, pidgin doesn't reconnect to the rooms
[21:23] <chad_> can i just ask: how difficcult is it to upgrade a ubuntu machine?
[21:23] <Decepticon> how do i see root's crontab
[21:23] <jasperus> Chad_
[21:23] <unop> chad_, upgrade from what to what tho?
[21:23] <jasperus> update-manager -d
[21:23] <KDB9000> Anyone have any ideas on how I can fix my DVD playback?
[21:23] <jasperus> its that easy
[21:23] <Splex> Rumple1: if you still cant get it to work, maybe try another port... never know what the ISP might be blocking
[21:23] <chad_> um... a machine thats about 4 years old
[21:24] <chad_> upgrade it to a better machine
[21:24] <jasperus> whats is the distro verison
[21:24] <chad_> but, albeit linux i dont think manufacturers do drivers on them
[21:24] <chad_> anyone care to correct me>
[21:24] <chase> can i get the ubuntu-desktop package out of the iso if i burn it to a CD?
[21:24] <ASULutzy> chad_: You can switch out hardware fairly easily. I've heard of a user in this channel who took his hard drive with linux from one machine and plugged it into a completely different machine and only had issues with video card which were resolvable
[21:24] <SkinnYPup> chad_: I have 6.06 and 8.04 on my 5 yr old pc
[21:24] <Decepticon> how do i do crontab -r for root? without password for su, but privileges with sudo
[21:25] <SkinnYPup> no problem
[21:25] <chase> and use apt-cdrom?
[21:25] <Guiri> anybody on the 64bit memory issue?
[21:25] <Decepticon> how do i edit root's crontab
[21:25] <SkinnYPup> chad_:Have you tried the live boot cd of ubuntu on this PC ?
[21:26] <chad_> um, ye
[21:26] <chad_> i think so
[21:26] <shadowimmage> I found this site http://intellinuxgraphics.org/index.html   - Does anyone know if those drivers work well?
[21:26] <ASULutzy> SkinnYPup: I believe chad_ is asking how difficult is it to upgrade the hardware of a system, no?
[21:26] <chad_> i am just wondering, as i am considering upgrading my PC soon
[21:26] <amh> Im an ubuntu n00b.  everytime i have someone in my group create a folder or copy files-- the permissions are always for that user and not the whole group!  I've configured the group too have the permissions i wanted too.
[21:27] <SkinnYPup> Could be, if  so , oops!
[21:27] <ASULutzy> chad_: It's usually not bad, like I said, I knew someone who took a hard drive from one machine with Ubuntu and plugged it into a completely new machine. Had to reinstall video drivers, but other than that it mostly just worked
[21:27] <amh> can  anyone tell me how to do this permissions thing? right now they've copied something to a web server but the permissions are-rw-r-r-- which is no good
[21:27] <Decepticon> is it safe to edit /etc/crontab while cron is running
[21:27] <Kx> Decepticon, sudo crontab -e
[21:28] <jil1> guys, how can i disable ica sturtup process? and what is the F***ing ISD-server error? someone tell me i sitting here about hour...
[21:28] <ks3> Decepticon: Yes, it should pick up the changes automatically
[21:28] <chad_> anyways, i really want to throw a rant about windows
[21:28] <chad_> is here the right place for it?
[21:28] <SkinnYPup> lol
[21:28] <ASULutzy> chad_: No
[21:28] <ASULutzy> !ot | chad_
[21:28] <chad_> oh ok
[21:28] <Decepticon> i need to insert "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -config=mylocalhost -update" into /etc/crontab, what user should i put it as, (i know it needs sudo to work)
[21:29] <Decepticon> as root?
[21:29] <unop> Decepticon, you can put it in /etc/crontab running as root without the need for sudo
[21:29] <george_> jorge
[21:29] <Decepticon> ok i will
[21:29] <amh> can anyone help my permissions issue?
[21:29] <unop> amh, how are your files being uploaded to the server?
[21:29] <chupy> my firefox closes alone when i am seeyng something in flash like in youtube
[21:30] <amh> unop: ftp mostly.
[21:30] <FLATRON> well...nice support here...wasted a hour here to get help and no help
[21:30] <amh> unop: but sometimes i just copy them over in explorer...
[21:30] <george_> greecce
[21:30] <unop> amh, you'll need to configure the umask directive in your ftpd's config file
[21:30] <amh> vsftpd.conf?
[21:31] <jil1> is this ubuntu suuport?
[21:31] <unop> amh, also check the umask of the directory you are uploading to (on the server)
[21:31] <amh> what does it need to be configured to?
[21:31] <ASULutzy> !patience | FLATRON
[21:31] <unop> amh, if vsftpd is what you use
[21:31] <amh> what should the umask be?
[21:31] <Splex> FLATRON: whats the problem
[21:32] <unop> amh, well, if you want permissions preserved in their entirety -- umask ought to be 000 - but be warned, this is severely insecure -- anyone could upload something dangerous and have the chance to execute it
[21:32] <FLATRON> Splex i need only to know do i have to boot system to get ubuntu 8.04 installition menu from cd....or i can install ubuntu 8.04 without booting ....using 7.10 ubuntu...if its possible then how
[21:33] <amh> anyone with ftp access?
[21:33] <trashguy> is firefox plugins still istalled in /usr/lib/firefox-extras ?
[21:33] <unop> amh, the default umask is secure - i suggest you keep it unless you have a real specific need to change it, and if you do change it, make sure you secure your machine up properly
[21:33] <chase> on headless, what do i have to do to get the internet to work besides "iwconfig eth1 essid networkname"? ... if i can't get this to work i'm switching back to XP
[21:33] <darkben> hi every1
[21:33] <darkben> i have a new problem
[21:33] <ASULutzy> FLATRON: sudo update-manager -d should upgrade to 8.04 from 7.10
[21:33] <amh> unop: but the files that are being ftp'd can't even be read over http due to the permissions..  its 022 right now
[21:33] <darkben> I have instaleed Opera 9.5 recently
[21:34] <Rumple1> CAn anyone tell me how to get an IP address of someone I am chatting with over pidgin?
[21:34] <unop> amh, not ftp access, they'll need some kind of shell or script running (e.g. those running on webservers) -- but, if vsftpd ever has an exploit and people can invoke a shell through it, you have a big problem
[21:34] <SkinnYPup> chase: Have you searched on the ubuntu forum? Sometimes its hard to catch an expert on your problem on here
[21:34] <ASULutzy> Rumple1: Not possible unless you direct connect generally
[21:34] <kde_> does anyone in here know how i can install mp3 encoding to soundconverter
[21:34] <chupy> my firefox closes alone when i am seeyng something in flash like in youtube
[21:34] <Decepticon> drwxr-x--- 2 root adm 4096 2008-07-10 21:57 apache2/ ##### ow can i make this drwxr-xr-x ? what is the number for chmod? 755 ?
[21:34] <FLATRON> |ASULutzy just sudo update-manager -d to terminal and thats it_
[21:34] <sotec_prod> Splex, didn't work the first time. Had to hard-reboot, but now it's working fine. Let's see if I can watch video online now...
[21:34] <darkben> but the keybard is disabled sometimes in opera and when i minimized it will be okay
[21:34] <amh> unop: what should ftp umask be, generally?
[21:34] <chase> skinnypup: yeah, irc is my last resort
[21:34] <jil1> H E L P
[21:34] <Splex> Rumple1: are you trying to find the ip of your xp box remotely?
[21:35] <chupy> my firefox closes alone when i am seeyng something in flash like in youtube
[21:35] <rseuib> Rumple1, no nobody can tell u that
[21:35] <ks3> chase: You'll have to set an IP address as well, or run dhclient
[21:35] <ASULutzy> FLATRON: Yea, if you want to upgrade from 7.04 to 8.04 you can do sudo apt-get update && sudo update-manager -d
[21:35] <unop> amh, I think you need to configure permissions via ownership on that directory -- make sure that the www-data group has ability to read on that directory
[21:35] <chupy> my firefox closes alone when i am seeyng something in flash like in youtube
[21:35] <unop> Decepticon, 755 yes
[21:35] <darkben> hello
[21:35] <kde_> does anyone in here know how i can install mp3 encoding to soundconverter
[21:35] <trashguy> chupy, yea flahs is nerfed right now im currently trying to mine
[21:35] <FLATRON> ASULutzy its not updating ...it stoped the system
[21:36] <darkben> the keybaord just get disabled.
[21:36] <Splex> sotec_prod, yes you have to hard reboot because it is new kernel modules that need to be loaded
[21:36] <SkinnYPup> chupy:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213878&page=3
[21:36] <Rumple1> Splex: No, I am trying to test connecting to another computer outside my lan.
[21:36] <Decepticon> unop is it safe to chmod 755 /var/log/apache2
[21:36] <chase> ks3: i did ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 up
[21:36] <b52_> ciaoz
[21:36] <ASULutzy> FLATRON: What do you mean bu, "stopped the system"
[21:36] <chupy> but what i should do?
[21:36] <trashguy> brb restart
[21:36] <chase> ks3: and still not internet
[21:36] <kde_> does anyone in here know how i can install mp3 encoding to soundconverter
[21:36] <amh> unop:www-data group? i have no group like that.
[21:36] <Splex> Rumple1: did you try changing the port?
[21:36] <unop> Decepticon, yes, i should assume so -- it's only a log file
[21:36] <ks3> chase: If you're manually setting the IP address, you'll need to manually set the default gateway and DNS servers as well
[21:36] <FLATRON> uuh...i copyed it and it started running updates but then it stopped and closed it self
[21:36] <sotec_prod> Splex, I rebooted fine, but it didn't work. I had to use the button to manually shut it down. But now everything works fantastic! Thanks man
[21:36] <Decepticon> yes i agree
[21:36] <Decepticon> thanks for that unop
[21:36] <chupy> my firefox closes alone when i am seeyng something in flash like in youtube how can i fix it?
[21:37] <darkben> any help here
[21:37] <jil1> H E L P
[21:37] <ninjacat> Can somebody help me download autoclicker???
[21:37] <chase> ks3: what should the default gateway and dns servers be?
[21:37] <Rumple1> Splex: I am trying to find a guide online that will help me change the port, I am not sure how to do it.
[21:37] <chase> ks3: is there a way to just do dhcp?
[21:37] <sotec_prod> Finally I can watch videos without disabling Compiz!
[21:37] <kde_> does anyone in here know how i can install mp3 encoding to soundconverter
[21:37] <ASULutzy> FLATRON: type sudo update-manager -d in a terminal and then if it errors or something use a pastebin to give us the output
[21:37] <unop> amh,  if you have apache - then you should have that group -- verify with.  grep -i www /etc/group
[21:37] <ASULutzy> !pastebin | FLATRON
[21:37] <Splex> sotec_prod: np :)
[21:37] <pl1> UNOP: THANKS a lot .. seems to run again..you support-guys  are awesome
[21:37] <darkben> I have another ubuntu in my office which has the same problem with opera 9.5
[21:37] <chupy> my firefox closes alone when i am seeyng something in flash like in youtube how can i fix it?
[21:37] <ks3> chase: If you're running DHCP, just run 'dhclient eth1'
[21:37] <SkinnYPup> chupy:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213878&page=3
[21:37] <unop> pl1, glad to know that .. yay! :)
[21:37] <rseuib> kde_ why not trying hello first ....
[21:37] <unop> !donate | pl1
[21:37] <Gpalco> People, HELP! I wa trying to edit the Applications menu. I right-clicked on the catgorys list and all categories disappeared! Could not undo it. No applications menu now. !
[21:37] <sotec_prod> Splex: one more question. Has Compiz come along far enough to allow me to play 3D games without disabling it?
[21:37] <kde_> hello
[21:38] <Splex> Rumple1: you should be able to set the external port to whatever you want, and just keep the internal port the same
[21:38] <chase> ks3: YAY internet!!!!   thank you! =)
[21:38] <kde_> please
[21:38] <Kx> chupy, that's pretty much is a known issue. 1 out of 5 times, it does crash. flash support on linux is not awsome
[21:38] <kde_> help
[21:38] <darkben> hello
[21:38] <Splex> Rumple1: on your router
[21:38] <darkben> any hlp
[21:38] <ks3> chase: No problem. You'll have to edit /etc/network/interfaces to make it permanent.
[21:38] <pl1> kay i will :)
[21:38] <jil1> there is no help... too many people here, they couldnt help in time...
[21:38] <SkinnYPup> chupy:http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-firefox-crashes-on-flash-contents-when-using-libflashsupport-in-hardy.html
[21:38] <darkben> why
[21:38] <FLATRON> ASULutzy okei i got it updating...but i have 1 question more...HOW TO get my new lcd flatron monitor to screen and graphic model list...there are only old lcd.s on the list and i need 1440X900 resolution ...thank you
[21:38] <amh> unop:yes, i do have var/www
[21:38] <Rumple1> Splex: Would I do this on the XP box, the target of the Terminal SErver client?
[21:38] <ninjacat> Can somebody help me download autoclicker!
[21:39] <darkben> is it ook with my opera?
[21:39] <ks3> Gpalco: You should be able to click the revert button
[21:39] <Splex> Splex: Try it out and let me know :)
[21:39] <Splex> err
[21:39] <trashguy> I HATE FLASH
[21:39] <Splex> lol
[21:39] <rseuib> kde_ have u tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:39] <unop> pl1, i don't necessarily mean monetary donations -- contributions of any kind are welcome, t-shirts, pizza, beer, etc :)  j/k
[21:39] <SkinnYPup> chupy: I have a laptop running gutsy that only crashes on cnn.com and works find on youtube.... yer not alone
[21:39] <Splex> sotec_prod: try it out and let me know :)
[21:39] <denverdave> does anyone have experience setting up a CGI-BIN?
[21:39] <sotec_prod> will do :)
[21:39] <kde_> im actually using kubuntu
[21:39] <unop> amh, right, so you need to have the www-data get read permissions on the directory in question
[21:39] <amh> unop:How do i make one directory have permissions to read on another directory?
[21:39] <kde_> no help over there
[21:39] <ASULutzy> FLATRON: Usually that sorta stuff mostly takes care of itself now. You can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:39] <Gpalco> ks3, I did it. Butnothing happened.I am despaerate
[21:40] <darkben> any1 here help me with my opera and ubuntu
[21:40] <ninjacat> OMFG
[21:40] <unop> amh, you can only give users and groups permissions to read/write/execute -- not files and directories themselves
[21:40] <Splex> Rumple1:  on the firewall, change the port on the internet side to a different port, then connect with the different port through the terminal client on your ubuntu box
[21:40] <FLATRON> ASULutzy i got 2 cd with monior drivers but ubuntu dont let me install them..kind a sad
[21:40] <ninjacat> SOEMBODY HELP ME DOWNLOAD AUTOCLICKER. Thank you.
[21:40] <kde_> and i have the restricted aps for it already
[21:41] <pl1> tshirts? to give poor children , or why ?
[21:41] <trashguy> I IGNORE CAPS
[21:41] <ASULutzy> jil1: screaming "HELP" isn't the way to go, just ask your question, if someone knows the answer they're respond, if not, wait a little while and ask again. Be patient
[21:41] <ninjacat> Well
[21:41] <ninjacat> Everyone ignores me, join the club.
[21:41] <Matthew12> What program works best with DVDs...I can't figure out how to play a dvd, but it works fine on my friends windows computer (in windvd)
[21:41] <trashguy> well
[21:41] <Rumple1> Splex: How do I change the port on my TSC?
[21:41] <unop> pl1, it was a joke :) but if you have any cool ones you think the team can benefit from .. :)
[21:41] <trashguy> ninjacat, you can install it the same way you probably installed irc
[21:41] <ASULutzy> !patience | ninjacat
[21:41] <trevor_> Is there something wrong with the software repositories?  The update manager keeps saying that it can't update the list of software...
[21:41] <trevor_> ?
[21:41] <pl1> :d
[21:42] <ninjacat> Wow.
[21:42] <Splex> Rumple1: try this:  ipaddress:port
[21:42] <ninjacat> Now people are not ignoring me. And telling me that I'm impatient.
[21:42] <ninjacat> Damn.
[21:42] <sotec_prod> Splex: I'll be DAMNED!
[21:42] <sotec_prod> woo!
[21:42] <denverdave> what's the problem?
[21:42] <amh> unop: so this i think bering me back to square one.  My group has the proper permissions.  which i thought meant all user in that group would have those permissions when uploading/moving/creating.. but this is not the case as i cannot delete anything by a user in my own group.
[21:42] <denverdave> ninjacat?
[21:42] <jil1> ﻿why in menu under ubuntu-desktop in some like internet menus are many clone items... like firefox firefox firefox...
[21:42] <ninjacat> What.
[21:42] <Splex> sotec_prod: woohoo, i only wish i had nvidia on my notebook =/
[21:42] <ninjacat> ?
[21:42] <trashguy> ninjacat, how di dyou install your irc client?
[21:42] <ASULutzy> Matthew12: You may need to install libdvdcss2... Generally you can just pop the DVD in and it will play. What player are you trying to use?
[21:43] <Gpalco> Is there a way to repare theMain menu after a main-menu-editor bug ???
[21:43] <ninjacat> Irc?
[21:43] <unop> amh, which group owns that directory? ;)  i'm hinting at something here
[21:43] <denverdave> I suggested install ubuntu studio
[21:43] <denverdave> that way he gets everything
[21:43] <Kx> ninjacat, did you try http://sourceforge.net/projects/xautoclick/
[21:43] <Splex> over 10 years and ati still hasn't got their drivers to the level that nvidia has them!!!
[21:43] <ninjacat> nope.
[21:43] <adamb>  Could someone help me out, I cant seem to get ntpd server up and running for my local machine, I added a line to /etc/ntp.conf of: "restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap" but my 192.168.1.0 machien failed when I run ntpdate,
[21:43] <ninjacat> Bout to.
[21:43] <Matthew12> ASULutzy I try to use VLC for all of my videos.
[21:43] <ASULutzy> jil1: you can right click the menu and hit edit menus and change what is shown there
[21:43]  * unop will be back later
[21:43] <ninjacat> What do I do after I download it? I extract it to another folder, then what?
[21:44] <sotec_prod> Splex: I know it, well, don't think it'll happen any time soon since AMD has a lot of catching up to do with the processor war and all...
[21:44] <denverdave> cgi-bin help?
[21:44] <bomsinc> what's the best way to tell if a process is running (i.e apache) from command line?
[21:44] <ASULutzy> Matthew12: Yea, I use vlc as well... what happens when you put the DVD in? and sorry if I missed it, but did you install libdvdcss2 (couldn't hurt ;))
[21:44] <sotec_prod> Splex: I did find something interesting about ATI cards though. Some hacker figured out a way to allow HDR lighting AND Antialiasing/antrisopic
[21:44] <amh> unop: the group that owns that directory (www) is root
[21:44] <Matthew12> asulutzy I'm going to install it now and see what happens
[21:44] <ASULutzy> bomsinc: ps aux | grep apache
[21:44] <denverdave> ps ax | grep process
[21:44] <denverdave> as in ps ax | grep firefox
[21:45] <amh> unop:anything my group creates under www is owned by that user only, eventhough they are in my group.
[21:45] <bomsinc> ASULutzy: thx
[21:45] <rseuib> bomsinc install htop from repos and run htop
[21:45] <Splex> sotec_prod: crazy
[21:45] <joshman09> msg me if someone can help with setup of mythtv
[21:45] <ninjacat> What do I do after I download it, excract it to another folder?
[21:45] <Kx> ninjacat, extract it, open up a terminal in that folder and say, ./configure
[21:45] <sotec_prod> Splex: I don't know if that's only for Windows, but it seems that it's a driver thing and could be universal. I'd check into it if you're interested. I don't have an ATI anymore, so I didn't look any further
[21:45] <ASULutzy> !compile | ninjacat
[21:46] <denverdave> then make and makefile and makeclearn
[21:46] <Gpalco> Someone help repair themain menu after a main-menu bug. PLS
[21:46] <joshman09> anybody familiar with setup of mythtv>
[21:46] <naruttebayo> I have to go through a test for work on osilearning.com that uses macromedia flash and I keep getting the "Please update your flash player" message. All other flash based sites work, and Synaptic says I have the latest flash plugin. Just in case though I also installed the Macromedia Flash Player package from adobe's website. I've also tried using both Opera and Firefox. Why won't this macromedia work?
[21:46] <Splex> sotec_prod: im not sure it would even run that well on my system... i have a radeon mobility x1700
[21:46] <ks3> amh: You could make them members of the same group, and set the sticky bit on the www directory
[21:46] <ninjacat> Kx, how do I open up a terminal in a folder?
[21:46] <SkinnYPup> ninjacat:May also need build-essential to be able to compile that program
[21:46] <ASULutzy> ninjacat: use cd to change directory
[21:47] <Matthew12> asulutzy: sudoing libdvdcss2 didn't work and I can't find that exact name in package manager
[21:47] <amh> what does sticky bit do?
[21:47] <Rumple1> Splex: I am a bit of a newbie when it comes to net problems, I am unable to ping the target XP box with either my linux box or my vista box. I think that is a problem for the TSC, yes?
[21:47] <sotec_prod> Splex: I'm sure you could get adequate resolution/settings out of it. Personally, I sacrifice antialiasing for full HDR when I play Oblivion. Proper lighting will always beat smooth lines...until Nvidia gets the same kind of hack. :D
[21:47] <ASULutzy> Matthew12: Yea just noticed that... Hmmm, I wonder if there's a factoid
[21:47] <ASULutzy> !dvd | Matthew12
[21:47] <ASULutzy> Matthew12: ah, there we go
[21:48] <Kx> Rumple1, what is the setup, are all machine on same network ?
[21:48] <denverdave> install studio
[21:48] <Splex> Rumple1: it seems to me that the key of your problem is the router.  try connecting the xp box directly to the internet to see if it is really your router setup or not
[21:48] <Matthew12> !medibuntu
[21:48] <denverdave> ping might be turned off
[21:48] <denverdave> if the xp can't ping it's own local host you know it's off
[21:48] <Rumple1> The XP box is what I am trying to ping, my vist and linux box are both behind a router.
[21:48] <denverdave> or not installed
[21:49] <Matthew12> ok, I'll search through that info...thanks, asulutzy
[21:49] <Kx> Rumple1, is th XP Pro or Home ?
[21:49] <blibli> español
[21:49] <Rumple1> Splex: I will try that.
[21:49] <ASULutzy> Matthew12: No problem, gl
[21:49] <Splex> sotec_prod:  do you have a link handy?
[21:49] <Rumple1> Kx: Home edition.
[21:49] <denverdave> does anyone know how to set up a cgi-bin?
[21:49] <Kx> Rumple1, You cant remote desktop to XP home,
[21:49] <ninjacat> Kx, put ./configure in terminal and it said this,
[21:49] <ninjacat> charles@charles-desktop:~$ ./configure
[21:49] <ninjacat> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[21:50] <sotec_prod> Splex: not handy. I can find it for you though. One good turn deserves another.
[21:50] <sotec_prod> stay put
[21:50] <Rumple1> Well that solved that problem.
[21:50] <Rumple1> Shit.
[21:50] <ninjacat> kx I put*
[21:50] <agt_the_walker> hello folks. I'm looking for a PCI wireless card that works "out of the box" with my dual P4. Indeed, this isn't the case for my linksys (rt2500 driver), since the connection drops every once in a while (or the card gets reset to 1M instead of 54M). thanks
[21:50] <ks3> amh: It's either the sticky bit or the sgid bit... memory's shot. It makes all files under the directory owned by the directories group as long the user is a member of that group
[21:50] <Rumple1> Thanks Kx, thanks Splex.
[21:50] <naruttebayo> ﻿﻿I have to go through a test for work on osilearning.com that uses macromedia flash and I keep getting the "Please update your flash player" message. All other flash based sites work, and Synaptic says I have the latest flash plugin. Just in case though I also installed the Macromedia Flash Player package from adobe's website. I've also tried using both Opera and Firefox. Why won't this macromedia work?
[21:51] <Mr_Knuckles> hello
[21:51] <Shaba1> Hey folks I am an unemployed window systems admin. I just install xubuntu on my moms laptop.
[21:51] <Shaba1> she connects to the internet behind a router.
[21:52] <Shaba1> need I install any anti virus software on her machine.
[21:52] <Splex> Rumple1: np, but i suggest you try to adjust your router to get it to work, its crazy to connect any version of windows to the internet directly!
[21:52] <sotec_prod> Splex: Enjoy. :) http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/04/07/ati_oblivion_aa_hdr/
[21:52] <Shaba1> On windows I KNEW I had better do that but linux is a brave new word to me
[21:52] <Splex> sotec_prod: thanks :)
[21:52] <denverdave> cgi-bin ? help?
[21:52] <Kx> ninjacat, you are probably just one step away from reaching in that folder, i hope u have extracted on desktop... so yu say cd xautoclick-0.19-src
[21:52] <sotec_prod> np man :)
[21:53] <ninjacat> kx, what?
[21:54] <ks3> Shaba1: I only run Linux anti-virus software on servers that are being accessed by Windows clients. For a desktop, you shouldn't need it.
[21:54] <JakeMon> i just noticed i have this daemon runing on my server called avahi. do i need this and can i uninstall it?
[21:54] <blibli> server #ubuntu-es
[21:54] <amh> unop:Ive checked off "sticky" and "group id" in the main folder where everyone is copying to from my group and i STILL don't have permissions.
[21:55] <Shaba1> thanks ks3. I do not think I will have a need to set up a linux server yet. Unless I get another job in the it industry. SOON
[21:56] <Kx> JakeMon, this is used to announce your system resources like printer etc to ur network world, like discovering network services ..
[21:56] <Shaba1> Tried of work third shift janitorial work just to pay rent and barely eate
[21:56] <ASULutzy> ninjacat: You have to cd to the directory you unzipped the files to...
[21:56] <jyoseph> Wheres the best channel to ask somewhat noob questions about Ubuntu?
[21:56] <Shaba1> Tired not Tried rather
[21:56] <Shaba1> this is jyoseph
[21:56] <Shaba1> trust me.
[21:56] <Slart> jyoseph: this would be it.. go ahead
[21:56] <Shaba1> You do not want to go to other channels
[21:56] <ninjacat> ASULutzy, how do I "cd" to the directory?
[21:56] <pl1> #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:57] <jyoseph> Shaba1 yeah? cool
[21:57] <Shaba1> you typically get the "You are a stupid noob" attitude
[21:57] <ASULutzy> ninjacat: open a terminal and type cd /the/path/to/the/directory
[21:57] <jyoseph> ahh I can handle that, i'm just glad to be using Ubuntu
[21:57] <jyoseph> so no worries
[21:57] <ASULutzy> ninjacat: So for example, if you extracted the files to /home/$USER/autoclicker, you would want to do cd /home/$USER/autoclicker
[21:58] <ASULutzy> ninjacat: And then from there you could do ./configure && make && sudo make install
[21:58] <ninjacat> woah...
[21:58] <denverdave> is there another irc channel for Apache?
[21:58] <denverdave> that anyone knows of?
[21:58] <pl1> ﻿ASULutzy: i ever wonder about that make and make install..how that work ?
[21:58] <jyoseph> What's the best way to get Ubuntu to launch programs on startup?
[21:59] <Qster> anyone know how to get rar to use threading?
[21:59] <ks3> denverdave: #apache ?
[21:59] <jetroid> i've tried copying a ~35GB directory from my harddrive onto an external drive, yet the "File Operation" initiated by Nautilus got stuck at some point through the transfer. should I "kill" the file operation, and if so, how?
[21:59] <jyoseph> is there a login/startup script I should edit?
[21:59] <t35t0r> jyoseph, programs as yourself or as another user?
[21:59] <denverdave> well yeah I can try that
[21:59] <Rumple1> Can anyone link me a good guide on dual boxing XP and ubuntu with ubuntu installed first?
[21:59] <Slart> jyoseph: at startup (when the maching boots) or when you log in?
[21:59] <jyoseph> t35t0r: a program like Pidgin for instance
[21:59] <jyoseph> when I login
[21:59] <t35t0r> jyoseph, ohh there's a gnome way to do that I think put a link to the file in some ~/.gnome startup dir
[21:59] <Slart> jyoseph: there is a little app for doing that.. system, preferences, session
[22:00] <t35t0r> or that gui way
[22:00] <Slart> *sessions
[22:00] <trakinas> suppose that i started doing a task through ssh in a another machine (the server machine). now, i have to shut down the client machine. will this task, like a apt-get upgrade, be finished?
[22:00] <trakinas> or will it keep working?
[22:00] <sotec_prod> jetroid: open a terminal and type    xkill     then click on the window that's frozen
[22:00] <jyoseph> cool, that's double good. I got the GUI way and command line way... AWESOME!
[22:00] <jyoseph> thanks t35t0r and Slart
[22:01] <ks3> trakinas: They'll generally exit when you logoff. You can use screen to keep programs running remotely.
[22:01] <Slart> trakinas: hmm... I would think it would kill the process when you close the ssh connection.. but I'm just guessing
[22:01] <jetroid> sotec_prod, thanks, worked perfectly!
[22:01] <sotec_prod> np :)
[22:01] <Konstigt> i never seem to get any nm-applet nowadays. if I start it via cli it works. isn't it supposed to be started along with NM?
[22:01] <xim> does my default installation of mysql come with a root password set up?
[22:01] <sotec_prod> jetroid: do this as well, it helps a lot
[22:02] <sotec_prod> one sec
[22:02] <trakinas> damn! =/
[22:02] <trakinas> i forgot to not start it through here
[22:02] <trakinas> in 3 minutes im leaving.
[22:02] <sotec_prod> jetroid: pm me
[22:02] <ASULutzy> !pm | ninjacat
[22:02] <EvilDennisR> xim: mysql-server will prompt you for a root _database_ passwd when you install it
[22:02] <trakinas> and this will take at least 40min
[22:02] <gaile> hello to all
[22:02] <ks3> trakinas: You could try to put it in the background - type CTRL+Z, then type bg at the shell prompt, but I still think it will close when you logout...
[22:02] <jyoseph> last noob question... I used xkeycaps to make my keyboard more mac like (control/alt/option). When I output the configuration file (XmodMap) it tells me "You should modify your login script to contain a line like" .... xmodmap ~/.xmodmap-'uname -n' "
[22:03] <Slart> xim: you'll have to check the man page.. but either there is a default password.. or you have to set one
[22:03] <xim> EvilDennisR: so if its already installed and i dont know the password, i should completely remove it and resinstall it?
[22:03] <trakinas> ks3: lemme try
[22:03] <jyoseph> that sound familiar?
[22:03] <gaile> guys how to enable the control panel of nvidia-legacy-glx ?
[22:03] <Slart> xim: I seem to remember selecting a password when I installed mysql
[22:03] <Kx> xim, or you can create new password by sudo dpkg-reconfigire mysql <Press tab> to select ur server
[22:03] <EvilDennisR> xim: I *think* it might be "root" by default?
[22:03] <david__> list
[22:03] <EvilDennisR> xim: Or you can do the dpkg-reconfigure like kx mentioned
[22:03] <ASULutzy> ninjacat: This really isn't too difficult. Where did you download the file to? To your desktop? to your home directory? If it was to your desktop you would right click the file and hit extract here. then you would just click applications -> accessories -> terminal, then in that terminal type cd Desktop/theNameOfTheExtractedFolder
[22:04] <trakinas> ks3: did not bring it to the foreground
[22:04] <EvilDennisR> xim: it might set the root passwd to be something random if you don't specify it initially
[22:04] <trakinas> will stop it and restart on the other machine. no troubles, is just in the begin anyway
[22:04] <Kx> xim, try sthing along the lines,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[22:04] <ASULutzy> There is no default root password, and it's not random if you don't specify
[22:04] <ASULutzy> The root password does not exist in a default ubuntu install
[22:04] <EvilDennisR> ASULutzy: ..so is it just not set ?
[22:04] <trashguy> ikonia, they really need to start making linux sound control sane
[22:05] <EvilDennisR> ASULutzy: no no no.. mysql root passwd =)
[22:05] <ASULutzy> EvilDennisR: Oh :X
[22:05] <xim> ok i think i will do the dpkg-reconfigure
[22:05] <ASULutzy> EvilDennisR: hehe, my mistake ;)
[22:05] <jyoseph> gaile you mean nvidia-settings ?
[22:05] <trashguy> ikonia, flahs sound was working I had to turn up alsa volume :/
[22:05] <xim> one sec
[22:05] <gaile> jyoseph: yah
[22:05] <denverdave> cgi-bin help
[22:05] <denverdave> ??
[22:05] <jyoseph> that's how I get into mine
[22:06] <gaile> ??
[22:06] <trakinas> done
[22:06] <trakinas> i have to go now
[22:06] <Shaba1> ks3 you still here?
[22:06] <trakinas> cheers
[22:06] <Dasuraga> Is 5GB of swap useful?
[22:06] <EvilDennisR> denverdave: what about cgi-bin
[22:06] <michael_> hello
[22:06] <Slart> Dasuraga: I'd say no..
[22:06] <EvilDennisR> !hi | michael_
[22:06] <Kx> Dasuraga, what is your RAM ?
[22:06] <jyoseph> gaile sorry I thought you asked how to pull up the NVIDIA settings
[22:06] <Dasuraga> 2 GB
[22:06] <jyoseph> I must have misunderstood
[22:07] <ASULutzy> Dasuraga: Probably not, it does depend though. If you're going to use suspend often you'll want a decent amount of swap space
[22:07] <michael_> how to configure a nvidia ?
[22:07] <ASULutzy> Dasuraga: Or so I hear
[22:07] <gaile> jyoseph: ok i'll ask that
[22:07] <ks3> Shaba1: Yep
[22:07] <Slart> Dasuraga: but some people say to use 2xRAM for swap.. some say 1xRAM.. and you'll need 1xRAM if you're going to use hibernate
[22:07] <gaile> jyoseph: how to?
[22:07] <derspankster> rythymbox has stopped adding new music from my music folder. can't seem to get it to check and add new stuff. got the "look for new" box checked.
[22:07] <Dasuraga> Well, it's mostly because I've made some partitions and have 5gb left over
[22:07] <Slart> ASULutzy: does suspend use the swap? I thought it was hibernate?
[22:07] <peter_bz> hello, in the ubuntu terminal, is there anyway to save the history?
[22:07] <jyoseph> open up terminal and type "nvidia-settings" without the quotes
[22:07] <ASULutzy> Slart: My mistake
[22:07] <Kx> Dasuraga, your RAM can pretty much not need SWAP, however you might need it when hibernating
[22:07] <Slart> peter_bz: history > yourownspecialhistoryfile
[22:07] <Shaba1> do they even make antivirus programs for linux/
[22:08] <ishbale_> wats a good program to run m y ipod TOUCH on ubuntu
[22:08] <gaile> ok
[22:08] <ishbale_> wats a good program to run m y ipod TOUCH on ubuntu
[22:08] <Slart> Shaba1: there are some root kit finders.. and anti-virus for checking for windows viruses
[22:08] <ks3> Shaba1: Yep, ClamAV
[22:08] <jyoseph> or go to System > Administration > NVIDIA X Server Settings
[22:08] <DeadPanda> Kx, even without hibernation, there are good reasons to keep a swap file around
[22:08] <Slart> !ipod | ishbale_
[22:08] <gaile> ok thanks jyoseph, brb :)
[22:08] <DeadPanda> Kx, file/partition :P
[22:08] <ishbale_> k thnx
[22:08] <peter_bz> slart, could you explain in more detail please
[22:08] <ASULutzy> Dasuraga: Wow, that was weird, I'm glad you brought up swap space... I was checking how much swap space I had and did swapon -s and noticed that for some reason I had no currently active swap, so I did sudo swapon /dev/sda6
[22:09] <Kx> ishbale_, sudo apt-get install gtkpod-aac
[22:09] <ASULutzy> No idea how my swap got deselected
[22:09] <Slart> peter_bz: history just types out your bash history
[22:09] <jyoseph> anyone know what "Your should modify your login script to contain -- xmodmap ~/.xmodmap-'uname -n' " means?
[22:09] <Slart> peter_bz: and if you run history > filename the output will be piped (copied) to the text file 'filename'
[22:09] <icewaterman> any idea how to disable the recent documents in gnome?
[22:09] <peter_bz> thanks
[22:09] <khin> hi, why is it that i have to restart my computer to recognize when headphones are connected to the computer
[22:10] <khin> is there a way to do this without rebooting
[22:10] <Slart> khin: sounds weird.. what kind of headphones is it? and what kind of soundcard?
[22:10] <trashguy> icewaterman, hifing pr0n?
[22:10] <jyoseph> icewaterman Places > Recent Documents > Clear Recent Documents ?
[22:10] <Exilant> jyoseph: well, changes how keys are mapped
[22:10] <ASULutzy> khin: You shouldn't have to reboot... Oddly enough on my laptop I do have to mute my speakers manually when I plug my headphones in or else it plays over both simultaneously
[22:10] <trashguy> s/hifing/hiding/
[22:10] <Slart> icewaterman: I don't know about disabling it..but you can clear it
[22:11] <Exilant> jyoseph: looks rather weird, though, why would it change with the kernel version?
[22:11] <jyoseph> Exilant: cool, do you know where I would find that "login script" ?
[22:11] <jyoseph> not sure, it's from XKeyCaps
[22:11] <cdoublejj|afk> HEY whats the bash_completion package do i'm upgrading to the latest version and during the upgrade it said it failed at the bash_completion and that the upgrade will still continue
[22:11] <khin> headphones from my ipod
[22:11] <cdoublejj|afk> said that package was broke
[22:11] <cdoublejj|afk> tired of these broken packages i keep downloading
[22:12] <trashguy> cdoublejj|afk, then dotn download broken packages
[22:12] <dr_Willis> cdoublejj|afk,  adds a lot of 'tab' completion features to the bash shell
[22:12] <Exilant> i'd guess somewhere in .xsessionrc or sth. like that
[22:12] <damien> ops!
[22:12] <damien> hahah opps
[22:12] <damien> sorry wrong window ;)
[22:12] <trashguy> Bash has auto complete built in
[22:12] <Philian> Alright
[22:12] <Philian> Hey i'm having a problem with installing ubuntu from cd. More specifically, when i booted from cd and chose to install it, afte the bar fills up it goes to the console/terminal
[22:12] <ASULutzy> cdoublejj|afk: I like bash-completion, others don't. It lets you tab complete lots of stuff that normally you wouldn't be able to afaik... Like for example I do sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-modules-<tab><tab> and it will list all the packages that are available that match virtualbox-ose-modules-*
[22:12] <jyoseph> Exilant hmm let me do a search for that
[22:12] <cdoublejj|afk> do i need that file it's not my fault ubuntu's site is messed the update is dling from them??????????????????
[22:12] <Philian> I checked the cd and it said no errors
[22:12] <Exilant> but haven't had the need to modmap anything for a while, so the ubuntu way is probably sth. else
[22:13] <dr_Willis> cdoublejj|afk,  you dont need as many ?'s as that.
[22:13] <ASULutzy> cdoublejj|afk: Change repositories and retry. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade. If that doesn't work you could try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:13] <trashguy> tab completeion is built in to lik eevery shell except the orginal  bourne shell
[22:13] <cdoublejj|afk> i mean do i need the bash_completion will it mess up the os if it doesn't have it?
[22:13] <dr_Willis> cdoublejj|afk,  could be the server is lagged or has an issue.
[22:13] <peter_bz> this is a pasted review from best buy, read it if you fancy a good laugh :) http://pastebin.com/m1ec90ac5
[22:13] <trashguy> tcsh, bash, zsh, ksh all have it
[22:13] <dr_Willis> cdoublejj|afk,  it wont affect much  i imagine.
[22:13] <ASULutzy> trashguy: But not the kind of tab completion that bash-completion gives, like I said, you can tab complete package names while apt-getting
[22:13] <cdoublejj|afk> kk
[22:14] <Zeeon> hey, I'm having some trouble with awn not saving my settings any hints as to why?
[22:14] <trashguy> ASULutzy, thats just lazy lol
[22:14] <cdoublejj|afk> fuck vista
[22:14] <dr_Willis> Its amazing some of the neat tricks the Bash COmpletion stuff can do.
[22:14] <Dasuraga> where's a good folder to stick programs in?
[22:14] <djhash> !wtf
[22:14] <evilgnome> Zeeon: awn as a whole, or particular applets?
[22:14] <ASULutzy> trashguy: I find it very useful on occasion, especially when I know I need something for mono, but not what, I can do sudo apt-get install mono<tab><tab>
[22:14] <dr_Willis> Dasuraga,  /home/username/bin
[22:14] <__yy_> Dasuraga: ~/bin
[22:14] <trashguy> ASULutzy, im installing it now ;)
[22:15] <matt444> I just purchased a new NVIDIA card.  What prep work do I need to do before installing the card?
[22:15] <ASULutzy> trashguy: lol ah, so lazy doesn't necessarily != bad in your book ;)
[22:15] <dr_Willis> matt444,  what video card are you using now?
[22:15] <frostburn> matt444, you need to remove the old card =p
[22:15] <LimCore> why ubuntu 8.04  FAILS  to install on i386 box with geforce 2 mx?
[22:15] <matt444> dr_Willis, it is ATI radeon
[22:15] <ASULutzy> trashguy: You'll need to close the bash shell and reopen it after installing it before it'll work
[22:15] <Zeeon> evilgnome awn as a whole
[22:15]  * LimCore slaps ubuntu with a failbat
[22:15] <Philian> Hey i'm having a problem with installing ubuntu from cd. More specifically, when i booted from cd and chose to install it, afte the bar fills up it goes to the console/terminal
[22:16] <djhash> Philian: when it goes to terminal are there any messages that seem odd?
[22:16] <Philian> I checked the cd and it said no errors
[22:16] <Shaba1> Slart what are rootkits
[22:16]  * SebNaitsabes slapslimcore with a  rubber baseball bat
[22:16] <Philian> in the end it says Kernel Alive
[22:16] <Shaba1> I have heard of them on the web.
[22:16] <Zeeon> evilgnome: neither applets nor launchers are kept after reboot...
[22:16] <Philian> and Kernal writing 1000000 or some value
[22:16] <dr_Willis> matt444,  you might want to install the nvidia-glx package now. but I doubt if swaping cards will cause much of a hassle.
[22:16] <Shaba1> but never really knew what they were
[22:16] <SebNaitsabes> Shaba1: rootkits :)
[22:16] <evilgnome> Zeeon: I don't know, but you might want to look into your ~/.config/awn directory and see what's happening
[22:16] <SebNaitsabes> the nastest type of malware
[22:16] <ASULutzy> Shaba1: rootkits are evil ;) They're backdoors into your machine, there are a couple of packages that seek out and get rid of them, but most of the time they give mostly false positives
[22:16] <trashguy> ASULutzy, does it install with base?
[22:16] <trashguy> says its already installed
[22:16] <matt444> dr_Willis:  well, i was thinking that, because my x11 conf file is going to still show fglrx as my driver.
[22:17] <Zeeon> kk
[22:17] <SebNaitsabes> Shaba1:  rootkits can be malicious drivers or  used as backdoors into a computer.  and they can be used to hide what a cracker is doing inside
[22:17] <Slart> Shaba1: rootkits are.. well.. originally it was a piece of software that hid itself from the system.. often modifying ls, top, system-monitor etc to not show that process.. then doing something bad in the background
[22:17] <SebNaitsabes> Shaba1: the wikipedia rootkit page is good
[22:17] <dr_Willis> matt444,  X is supposed to 'auto configure' a great deal on the fly now a days.. Try swaping cards and see.. if all else fails.. install the nvidia-glx package from the console.
[22:17] <ASULutzy> trashguy: I want to say no, because when I reinstalled hardy, the first thing I did was sudo apt-get install bash-completion, but they may have added it, who knows
[22:17] <lucas_> what program can i use to create a dvd from any video like .mpg for example???
[22:17] <djhash> Philian: do you boot into the LiveCD then click the install icon?
[22:17] <dr_Willis> lucas_,  i tend to use DeVeDe
[22:17] <evilgnome> Does anyone have knowledge about QT apps like LyX and Skype having terrible refresh systems for their windows (or what to do about it)?
[22:18] <matt444> dr_Willis, will installing that package automatically change my conf file?
[22:18] <evilgnome> lucas_: I also like devede
[22:18] <lucas_> dr_Willis, is it in the ubuntu repositories?
[22:18] <ASULutzy> lucas_: devede works very well
[22:18] <dr_Willis> matt444,  i doubt it.
[22:18] <dr_Willis> lucas_,  yea
[22:18] <Kx> lucas_, for e.g. mandvd, devede
[22:18] <matt444> dr_willis thanks
[22:18] <lucas_> THANKS GUYS
[22:18] <Philian> Umm, all i did was put the CD in, it booted up to a screen and I choose the second option
[22:18] <cdoublejj|afk> can i get fawn to redownload the bash_completion package and reinstall it?
[22:18] <Philian> which was simply Install ubuntu
[22:18] <ASULutzy> lucas_: Really devede just saves you some time from learning mencoder, it's really just a graphical frontend for mencoder... Read up on all the command line stuff mencoder can do
[22:19] <djhash> Philian.. use the first option.. it'll be easier and better...
[22:19] <cdoublejj|afk> ithought the second option was install ubuntu with new driver cd
[22:19] <cdoublejj|afk> no about redoing the bash_completion?
[22:19] <__yy> Is there a way to export a sound device to a remote host? Something like nfs for sound devices...
[22:19] <Philian> alright i'll go try that
[22:19] <ASULutzy> Philian: If you get dropped to a busybox prompt and you've validated the CD and it passed, you may have a hardware compatibility issue... But maybe just try option 1 on the boot  menu
[22:20] <ASULutzy> __yy: I thought pulse was supposed to be able to do that?
[22:20] <doryian> hi
[22:20] <Kx> __yy, pulseaudio :)
[22:20] <__yy> ASULutzy, Kx: cool, I'll look into that, thanks.
[22:20] <bastones> Hello... this is getting quite annoying now... I have tried bvoth Ubuntu and PCLinuxOS and both fail to work properly on my ADVENT 9415 laptop... Ubuntu worked with acpi workarounds and then wireless + wired connections wouldn't work (wired connection (ethernet) made sites just continually 'Waiting...') - I couldn't even get PCLos to load as it just seems like its about to then it doesn't......
[22:20] <bastones> ...is there ANY fix to the problems with Ubuntu and ADVENT 9415 laptops as I really want to use Ubuntu and I was told that my Realtek RTL8187B wireless card was natively supported...?
[22:20] <Splex> _yy: yes, pulseaudio will do the trick
[22:20] <Matthew12> OK, so the DVD I have is region 2, it works on my friends windows computer (in windvd), is there a package for multi region dvd support?
[22:21] <doryian> i'm on a channel and i type something and i get this error : #* #Galati :Cannot send to channel
[22:21] <ASULutzy> cdoublejj|afk: It's weird that packages that you are downloading are becoming corrupt, have you tried changing repositories? And what about just trying again sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, you'd think that would fix it ;)
[22:21] <Splex> Matthew12:  install libdvdcss2
[22:21] <Matthew12> Splex I have done that already...the dvd is from Japan if that means anything
[22:22] <ASULutzy> bastones: I use the RTL8187B-modified drivers for my wireless USB adapter, they work? Are you sure you installed them properly?
[22:22] <Splex> Matthew12:  libdvdcss doesn't care about regions
[22:22] <zeno> the "tracker" has been indexing 143/143 folders for a day, how to fix it?
[22:22] <Splex> Matthew12: do you have medibuntu packages installed?
[22:22] <bastones> umm... my wireless adapter is INSIDE my laptop, so I didn't do anything to install them, I had wireless built-in when I bought the laptop...
[22:22] <bastones> lots of other people are having same problem so there must be a fix somewhere...
[22:22] <Splex> Matthew12: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[22:23] <bastones> it seems to be a problem on any Linux OS
[22:23] <ASULutzy> Matthew12: I thought you were going to add medibuntu to your repositories? we went over this already ;)
[22:23] <Matthew12> yes, I just installed them 20 minutes ago
[22:23] <patryk_> bastones: did you ndiswrapper?
[22:23] <ASULutzy> bastones: Right, even if it's built in, are you sure you installed the drivers correctly
[22:23] <ASULutzy> bastones: That's what I was asking
[22:23] <Splex> Matthew12: which player are you using?
[22:23] <bastones> what drivers? Apparently the wireless card is natively supported
[22:23] <slavi1> if I want to use my system as a receiver (my soundcard has spdif input), what can I use to decode the ac3 stream comming through spdif input and output it to the speakers?
[22:23] <doryian> hi
[22:23] <patryk_> hmm try ndiswrapper
[22:24] <doryian> i'm on a channel and i type something and i get this error : #* #Galati :Cannot send to channel
[22:24] <ASULutzy> bastones: natively supported just means that there are drivers that exist for it natively in linux
[22:24] <bastones> where can I find them?
[22:24] <patryk_> bastones:yeah doesn't mean they are installed
[22:24] <Matthew12> SPlex: totem opens up when I put the dvd in, but it says it "can't read from source"
[22:24] <patryk_> you got a cd with the drivers
[22:24] <Splex> Matthew12: try gxine
[22:24] <ASULutzy> bastones: google? Alternatively use lspci to tell us exactly what wireless card it is and maybe we can help. Like I said, I had to use rtl8187-modified
[22:24] <le_> Lost r8180 after  dist-upgrade - not sure how to get it back.  Anyone?
[22:25] <__Ping__> hey people
[22:25] <__Ping__> I've got an issue with my sound. (you may all groan now)
[22:25] <ASULutzy> patryk, bastones: the cd with drivers will most likely only have Windows drivers which you would need to use ndiswrapper to make work. the RTL8187b definitely have native linux drivers... I'd just google it ;)
[22:25] <le_> I guess  RTL8180L wireless card for 2.6.24 kernel
[22:25] <__Ping__> my front and back audio are switched inexplicably, causing irritations with regards to headphones
[22:25] <le_> r8180
[22:25] <__Ping__> is there any way to resolve this?
[22:25] <Vi5in> hello
[22:26] <patryk_> I used ndiswrapper and it always worked except on fedora
[22:26] <Vi5in> I am trying to get vmware for ubuntu
[22:26] <djhash> doryian: you are sending fine to this channel.. could you elaborate
[22:26] <Vi5in> i can't find it in the pacckage manager
[22:26] <Vi5in> i see xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[22:26] <djhash> !vmware | Vi5in
[22:26] <djhash> !enter | Vi5in
[22:26] <le_> It's a friend's computer
[22:26] <Slart> __Ping__: unless there is a "switch back and front channels" checkbox in the mixer dialog I don't think so.. can't you just swap the cables?
[22:26] <sotec_prod> Splex: I just found a conclusive article on HDR + AA. http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=29&limit=1&limitstart=3
[22:26] <le_> May be using ndiswrapper, not sure.
[22:26] <Shady> !dmraid
[22:27] <__Ping__> It's a fresh kubuntu install (couldn't get much help over there, I'm afraid)
[22:27] <__Ping__> and I don't think I've checked any switches
[22:27] <ASULutzy> bastones: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26538/ may work for you, but again, you should probably let us know exactly what wireless card you have to be 100% sure ;)
[22:27] <le_> But r8180 is present in output of lsmod on the 2.6.22 kenrnel, but not in the new kernel
[22:27] <__Ping__> the only reason it makes a difference is so that I can effectively mute my rear audio when I plug in headphones
[22:27] <raavi> Has anybody has success in installing ATI drivers for 64-bit machine, and my card is HD3870
[22:27] <Shady> howdy folks
[22:28] <Slart> __Ping__: I've never used Kubuntu but in gnome there are switches for ie "mic boost" and such things.. there has to be something similar in KDE
[22:28] <patryk_> btw anybody programs here in anjuta?
[22:28] <sotec_prod> Now if I could only get Oblivion to run from my WinXP drive in linux I'd be set...   ....anyone know a workaround?
[22:28] <ASULutzy> raavi: Yea, I installed fglrx on my 64 bit machine, have a 2900XT, I had to write a custom mtrr fixup script because I had more than 3.2 GB of ram, a real pain in the butt...
[22:28] <__Ping__> slart: what mixer app do you use?
[22:28] <ASULutzy> raavi: What seems to be the problem with fglrx for you?
[22:28] <Storrgie> I installed a new graphics card in my desktop, but now when I boot I cant do anything and I can see it says that its telling me ubuntu is in low graphics mode
[22:28] <Slart> __Ping__: the one gnome supplies by default
[22:28] <bastones> ASULutzy: already said, wireless card is Realtek RTL8187B
[22:28] <patryk_> sotec_prod:try play_on_lonux
[22:28] <patryk_> *linux
[22:28] <sotec_prod> patryk: is that a channel?
[22:28] <ASULutzy> bastones: I mean the exact output of lspci
[22:28] <jyoseph> ubottu http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/server.html#6 nice little tutorial, not sure if that helps
[22:29] <jyoseph> haha, noob
[22:29] <patryk_> http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
[22:29] <s3a> is it normal for wireless card to work with unencrypted wireless but doesnt connect to an encrypted one?
[22:29] <Slart> sotec_prod: oblivion in wine is still slow compared to windows.. but I don't  think you can just run it from your windows system drive like that..
[22:29] <raavi> ASULutzy: After installation and reboot, screen is blank.
[22:29] <sotec_prod> patryk: thanks
[22:29] <Splex> sotec_prod: just saw your link, thanks
[22:29] <bastones> I have to move from Ubuntu to Vista to do that... and I have done it before the output is too long to write it... let me find something
[22:29] <zeno> the "tracker" has been indexing 143/143 folders for a day, how to fix it?
[22:29] <sotec_prod> Slart: bummer.
[22:29] <ASULutzy> bastones: But again, http://paste.ubuntu.com/26538/ has steps you could try and take, http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/rtl8187b that site has all the different drivers you could possibly need for that particular card
[22:29] <sotec_prod> Splex: you're welcome. good article
[22:29] <Shady> Anyone here that has experience creating a dual boot XP/Ubuntu, trying to install ubuntu onto a RAID0 drive that is completely formatted for the NTFS already
[22:29] <Matthew12> splex: the dvd came with a foreign deluxe cd, it has music videos on it...gxine loaded the intro, but then when the main menu should load I get this error: error opening vtsN=-1, domain=2
[22:29] <Storrgie> ﻿I installed a new graphics card in my desktop, but now when I boot I cant do anything and I can see it says that its telling me ubuntu is in low graphics mode
[22:29] <ASULutzy> raavi: How much ram do you have?
[22:29] <raavi> ASULutzy: 4GB
[22:30] <patryk_> anybody programm in C++?
[22:30] <Storrgie> ﻿I installed a new graphics card in my desktop, but now when I boot I cant do anything and I can see it says that its telling me ubuntu is in low graphics mode
[22:30] <ASULutzy> raavi: oh boy, I hope you don't have to do what I did... can you do me a favor and try booting up with only 3 GB?
[22:30] <patryk_> know any good ide's for linux?
[22:30] <ASULutzy> raavi: If that works you may have to do exactly what I did
[22:30] <ASULutzy> patryk_: monodevelop maybe?
[22:30] <patryk_> is it hard in config?
[22:30] <raavi> ASULutzy: Why those drivers have to depend on RAM
[22:31] <Philian> Alright I'm back
[22:31] <cdoublejj|afk> c++ is cool
[22:31] <skytimer> Can someone help me I am trying to compile an NVidia proprietary driver and I am getting the following error: Unable to determine the version of the kernel sources located in '/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-server/build' Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel and that they are properly configured.....
[22:31] <cdoublejj|afk> too bad it's dieing out
[22:31] <raavi> ASULutzy: What was the script, you mentioned previously?
[22:31] <patryk_> because until know I used anjuta,eclipse and somehow wasn;t able to compile
[22:31] <ASULutzy> raavi: Well, I'm actually not sure where the problem resides, it could be Ubuntu's fault, it could be fglrx's fault, or I thought maybe it was actually my asus' motherboard's fault
[22:31] <Philian> djhash: basically i choose to start unbuntu without having changes to my computer
[22:31] <Philian> it loads and it says ok to deferred expectations, periodic scheduler, battery state and local boot scripts
[22:31] <Philian> but then it stalls after
[22:31] <ASULutzy> raavi: I'll paste it to a pastebin, but my script is something you'd only want to use if you were 100% sure you had the same problem I did. (ie fglrx works with 3 GB of ram but when you use 4 GB it blows up)
[22:31] <Philian> like it stays there, not frozen
[22:32] <ASULutzy> raavi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26539/
[22:32] <Storrgie> ﻿I installed a new graphics card in my desktop, but now when I boot I cant do anything and I can see it says that its telling me ubuntu is in low graphics mode
[22:32] <arcos> I am new to Ubuntu and I would like to set up my ubuntu laptop so that it connects with my printer wirelessly. Is that possible?
[22:32] <s3a> how do i get out of fullscreen mode in virtualbox-ose?
[22:32] <hlfshell>  right control + f s3a
[22:32] <patryk_> arcos:do you have a print server?
[22:32] <Shady> anyone know how to get Ubuntu 8 to install onto a RAID0 drive?
[22:32] <sotec_prod> So, play on linux is WINE basically, just more user friendly.
[22:32] <arcos> umm i think so
[22:32] <hlfshell> right control frees your keyboard. F is hotkey for Fullscreen toggle s3a
[22:32] <sotec_prod> I have the current WINE installed
[22:33] <arcos> there is another laptop using it
[22:33] <amenado> arcos-> does your printer have a wireless interface ?
[22:33] <Storrgie> I switched from a nvidia geforce 7800 to GTX260 but now i cant boot into ubuntu
[22:33] <arcos> yeah i believe so
[22:33] <s3a> hlfshell: thx :) but do u no how i can make it actually take the whole screen?
[22:33] <sotec_prod> I'm trying to not install any games, but rather play them directly from my windows drive.
[22:33] <patryk_> sotec_prod:yeah and you can play more games on it I think
[22:33] <arcos> yes it does
[22:33] <sotec_prod> patryk: nice
[22:33] <raavi> ASULutzy: Does the script is only for Ubuntu, or can I run for opensuse too.
[22:33] <amenado> !who | arcos
[22:33] <patryk_> sotec_prod:if you have the money buy cedega
[22:34] <ASULutzy> raavi: Oh now that you mention it, I know it's not Ubuntu's fault, it either has to be asus or fglrx. Because I installed OpenSuse 11 and had the same exact problem
[22:34] <patryk_> but it costs something like 40 $ every 3 months
[22:34] <ASULutzy> raavi: and I copied that script verbatim (though OpenSuse uses a different startup method than Ubuntu's init.d)
[22:34] <ASULutzy> raavi: and yea, it worked in OS11
[22:34] <sotec_prod> patryk: I'll try that
[22:34] <metalpres> is there a way to change the font size on the login screen?  all my fonts are fine everywhere except the ones on the login screen that so tiny they cant even be read
[22:34] <patryk_> but with it you can play almost every windows game(except some of the newest and oldest)
[22:34] <amenado> arcos make sure the printer has an ip address, and you can configure your cups in ubuntu to use  socks://x.x.x.x:9100 to connect to such printer..assuming the printer also has a print server using port 9100
[22:34] <cdoublejj|afk> WOAH I JUST GOT A MESSAGE SAYING UPDATE MANAGER PACKAGE FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[22:34] <hlfshell> yes s3a, I do
[22:34] <patryk_> google around:D
[22:34] <ASULutzy> raavi: Out of curiosity, do you have an asus motherboard?
[22:34] <emorris> hi, Firefox seems to randomly crash on basic things like switching tabs or clicking on links. I have tried both the repo one and the official one, same result. Have tried both compiz and metacity. An example of a crash report from the official one is here: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8ebd33d1-4ec4-11dd-9bdf-0013211cbf8a?p=1 . Any ideas, thanks?
[22:34] <cdoublejj|afk> is that bad is it the server or my compy fucked?
[22:34] <ASULutzy> raavi: Cause I never really figured out if it was an asus problem or an fglrx problem
[22:35] <arcos> !amenado oaky I will try
[22:35] <hlfshell> @s3a: first - does right control + F not make it full screen already?
[22:35] <raavi> ASULutzy: Yes.
[22:35] <patryk_> oki i am going
[22:35] <ASULutzy> raavi: I think asus' memory remap is full of fail. Specifically I have an ASUS p5k vanilla
[22:35] <patryk_> good luck ond your games on linux
[22:35] <amenado> !ohmy cdoublejj|afk
[22:35] <patryk_> bya
[22:35] <Philian> ASULutzy: which hardware is incompatible with ubuntu
[22:35] <Philian> cause i still have problems
[22:35] <raavi> ASULutzy: Nasty.
[22:35] <cdoublejj|afk> it allso gave a bunch of file descriptor errors?
[22:35] <s3a> hlfshell: ya it does but a lot of it remains black - along time ago i had it take the whole screen at a res of 1680x1050 (my screen res) and even in window mode, it kept changing res for me now its only 1024x.. max :(
[22:35] <hlfshell> ah see
[22:36] <hlfshell> whats happening s3a is that windowis still at a certain resolution
[22:36] <hlfshell> that isnt taking the whole screen
[22:36] <sipher_> s3a nvidia ?
[22:36] <Storrgie> I cant get nvidia-settings to work with my GTX260
[22:36] <arcos> amenado: where can i configure it on ubuntu?
[22:36] <hlfshell> s3a: did you install the Guest Addition Pack?
[22:36] <ASULutzy> raavi: Heh, but the script works, hopefully it works for you... What are the odds you bumped into me lol, I think like 3 other people have actually bothered with trying to write that script... I actually wrote a short tutorial on how to rewrite mtrr tables on the Ubuntu forums, you could probably google it as there aren't many tutorials related to that
[22:36] <sipher_> StoneApple, sudo -i
[22:36] <doryian> hi
[22:36] <sipher_> type your password
[22:36] <sipher_> type
[22:36] <amenado> arcos use your ubuntu's web browser and point to localhost:631
[22:36] <sipher_> nvidia-settings
[22:36] <s3a> sipher_: no ati x600 pro radeon
[22:36] <metalpres> saying cedega can play almost all windows games except the very new and very old ones is not really very true,  cedega does play a lot of games but its still a very small amount,  almost every game that I like does not work in cedega, except wow and even that is really buggy for me
[22:36] <s3a> hlfshell: i dont think so
[22:37] <sipher_> s3a have you tryed editing the xorg.conf?
[22:37] <gaile> hey guys can you explain it to me
[22:37] <taso2> okay, so my resol.conf keeps getting over-written with my dhcp's DNS servers, how do I fix this ?
[22:37] <gaile> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[22:37] <raavi> ASULutzy: How did you figured it out it is because of RAM?
[22:37] <sipher_> taso sudo chmod -w /etc/resolv.conf
[22:37] <hlfshell> s3a: may i recommend you do that?
[22:37] <majortool> anyone have sciosfflags erros?
[22:37] <taso2> what will that do ?
[22:37] <majortool> errors
[22:37] <s3a> hlfshell: ya im doing it its downloading iso
[22:37] <hlfshell> s3a: it allows a shared folder between windows and linux, seamless mouse integration, and takes care of auto resolution fixing :-)
[22:37] <s3a> sipher_: i doubt its a video card problem
[22:38] <sipher_> taso2, make the file read=only
[22:38] <hlfshell> s3a: let me know if you need help with that.
[22:38] <taso2> understood
[22:38] <taso2> there's no way around this ?
[22:38] <sipher_> s3a, if you screen resolution isn't correct ?
[22:38] <s3a> hlfshell: k, thx alot and does ose have usb support yet?
[22:38] <taso2> more "proper" way ?
[22:38] <emorris> ﻿hi, Firefox seems to randomly crash on basic things like switching tabs or clicking on links. I have tried both the repo one and the official one, same result. Have tried both compiz and metacity. An example of a crash report from the official one is here: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/8ebd33d1-4ec4-11dd-9bdf-0013211cbf8a?p=1 . Any ideas, thanks?
[22:38] <ASULutzy> raavi: I don't remember how I stumbled upon it. But basically "vesa" software drivers worked with 4 GB of ram, and fglrx worked with 3 GB of ram,  but not with 4, so I knew the ram was ok and just kinda got lucky
[22:38] <s3a> sipher_: ya but in a vm not in actual ubuntu
[22:38] <ASULutzy> raavi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4766662 is teh original tutorial I made, it's sorta bad, but it's followable
[22:38] <sipher_> s3a oh
[22:38] <sipher_> different then.
[22:38] <s3a> sipher_: thx anyway
[22:38] <sipher_> vmware?
[22:39] <hlfshell> s3a: actually, i've never once tested that, nor do i have a usb drive anywhere near me. I guess experiment on your own :-)
[22:39] <sipher_> xen
[22:39] <aa235315> hi, i am having some trouble installing ubuntu while in windows.
[22:39] <Splex> matthew12: did you install all the additional packages from medibuntu?
[22:39] <raavi> ASULutzy: You know, the mother board manual says it only supports 3 GB of RAM,...
[22:39] <Shady> Can anyone brilliant help me figure out how to set up my Dual Boot on a RAID 0 partition?
[22:39] <emorris> ﻿aa235315: what seems to be the problem?
[22:39] <Matthew12> so if I want all the video drivers included with ubuntu studio, do I have to do a fresh install of my OS, or can I install them on top of hardy
[22:39] <Matthew12> splex: i think I installed everything
[22:39] <aa235315> after installation, i reboot and it hangs
[22:39] <ASULutzy> raavi: Really? That's odd, the P5k has memory remapping enabled...
[22:39] <MariachiAC> When mounting slave drive the following error occures $MFTMirr. What can I do?
[22:39] <aa235315> it says windows is unable to start hal.dll is missing
[22:39] <jil1> what is ICA process and why my ubuntu show me error "ISD-server error...." always when start ubuntu-desktop, kde4 but not in KDE3.5
[22:39] <raavi> ASULutzy: But, I tried..with 4GB and it worked..now...I have a problem...
[22:40] <Matthew12> when I sudo apt get libdvdcss2...it says I have the latest version already: splex
[22:40] <aa235315> this is ubuntu 8.04
[22:40] <cdoublejj|afk> my update didn't work said my system could be unstable i'm getting the lateset version on Ubuntu on cd and going to run a hdd check utility
[22:40] <Splex> Matthew12: what do u mean video drivers, do you mean nvidia/ati?
[22:40] <emorris> ﻿aa235315: where does it hang? on the menu, or while booting up? are there any error messages?
[22:40] <taso2> sipher_, you sure that will work? isn't dhcp running as root user ?
[22:40] <aa235315> when i click select OS
[22:40] <aa235315> it hangs for a while then displays an error messeage
[22:40] <Matthew12> splex, I don't mean drivers, my bad...I meant plugins etc.
[22:40] <emorris> ﻿aa235315: what does the error message say?
[22:41] <majortool> okay .. why doesn't the ubuntu package manager have a simple program like xchat ... can anyone tell me if im doing something wrong or is designed this way?
[22:41] <raavi> ASULutzy: I do a reboot now...we will see..
[22:41] <aa235315> windows is unable to start, hall.dll is missing or damaged
[22:41] <majortool> is it
[22:41] <aa235315> no
[22:41] <sotec_prod> I wonder if I could install the game with Cedega (or WINE, or play on linux) then just move all of my save game data over to the Ubuntu installation directory....
[22:41] <aa235315> windows boots up normally and fine
[22:41] <s3a> hlfshell: cuz ubuntu says i need windows to fix my external hd and i rely dont want to install an actual windows xp :(
[22:41] <ASULutzy> raavi: gl
[22:41] <aa235315> just when i select to boot ubuntu it gives me this error
[22:41] <sipher_> taso2, you should be able to remove the permission. It should still apply.
[22:42] <emorris> ﻿aa235315: so does windows boot properly?
[22:42] <aa235315> yes
[22:42] <sipher_> taso2, you could also use extended attributes.
[22:42] <shadowimmage> can somebody tell me how to configure WINE to play with Piulseaudio/ALSA? I keep crashing my computer trying to run games!
[22:42] <sipher_> taso2, man chattr
[22:42] <emorris> ﻿aa235315: but not Ubuntu, right?
[22:42] <aa235315> yep thats correct
[22:42] <shadowimmage> please?
[22:42] <will00> i tried setting up a computer to work with my university's wireless network and in doing so i must have somehow deleted some config file or module because now the gnome-network-manager doesnt have a wireless network option
[22:42] <perhamlinux> hello all
[22:43] <crimsun> shadowimmage: set wine to use oss, then wrap it using padsp wine foo
[22:43] <chrismo16> how can I change my PATH?
[22:43] <hlfshell_AWAY> what university will00 ?
[22:43] <hlfshell_AWAY> and what kind of encryption?
[22:43] <perhamlinux> I've got a problem with my CD/DVD
[22:43] <unop> chrismo16, edit your ~/.bashrc file
[22:43] <will00> hlfshell_AWAY: Saint Louis University
[22:43] <perhamlinux> It can't read any thing
[22:43] <Shady> Looking for help with partitioning a RAID0 drive, I have already tried the FakeRaidHowto and cannot get it to work, i need someone with a workaround please
[22:43] <perhamlinux> the files show, but I can't access, copy the files
[22:43] <hlfshell_AWAY> will00, encrpytion type? WPA Enterprise? WEP?
[22:43] <Shady> !FakeRaid
[22:43] <shadowimmage> crimsun: how do I "wrap it using padsp wine foo"?
[22:43] <sipher_> Shady, what type of system is it?
[22:44] <perhamlinux> it says it's an IO error
[22:44] <unop> chrismo16, and place an entry in it like this.   export PATH=$PATH:"/new/path"
[22:44] <emorris> ﻿aa235315: ok, so when you select Ubuntu, it displays a message about hal.dll? that's odd. dlls are for windows
[22:44] <crimsun> shadowimmage: `padsp wine -- someapp.exe'
[22:44] <crimsun> shadowimmage: or some variant of that syntax.
[22:44] <sipher_> Shady, I had a problem with a compaq machine with installing a bootloader period.
[22:44] <Shady> sipher, custom built by me
[22:44] <chrismo16> unop, yes I read that some where but should there already be an entry for it there or do I add it all myself?
[22:44] <sipher_> software raid0?
[22:44] <sipher_> hardwarE?
[22:44] <perhamlinux> bazhang, I know you're an expert, help me on this
[22:44] <unop> chrismo16, yes, as i showed you in my last post
[22:44] <will00> hlfshell_away, that isnt the issue, the issue is with the program itself doesnt show any area for wireless connections
[22:44] <Shady> sipher_ hardware
[22:44] <sipher_> controller?
[22:44] <emorris> ﻿aa235315: hang on, give me a mo
[22:45] <sipher_> onboard?
[22:45] <perhamlinux> anyone?
[22:45] <shadowimmage> crimsun: you mean in a terminal? (i;m an uber noob...)
[22:45] <Shady> sipher_ onboard...cant remember off top of my head
[22:45] <crimsun> shadowimmage: yes
[22:45] <sipher_> Shady, =/
[22:45] <hlfshell_AWAY> double check that you activated your wireless connection via computer's Fn Key - sometimes you need to do that. also do ifconfig -v and see if your wifi card is even listed. then do iwconfig INTERFACE up and see what it does. bbl, food. :-)
[22:45] <shadowimmage> crimsun: alright I'll try that
[22:45] <slavi1> if I want to use my system as a receiver (my soundcard has spdif input), what can I use to decode the ac3 stream comming through spdif input and output it to the speakers?
[22:45] <shadowimmage> crimsun: thanks
[22:45] <aa235315> k no problem
[22:45] <sipher_> Shady, does installing linux work period?
[22:45] <jil1> okay i gave up... just ignore - is cool i know..
[22:46] <chrismo16> unop, so do I have to include all locations that are currently in my PATH or just what I want to ad?
[22:46] <izmeh> What's the point of naming partitions?
[22:46] <akatsuki> hello, its possible to run visual basic on linux?
[22:46] <sipher_> akatsuki, haha, ya. It's called python :p
[22:46] <slavi1> sipher_: no it isn't
[22:46] <s3a> hlfshell_AWAY: thx, it worked ill try usb later
[22:46] <slavi1> akatsuki: is it a VB app or do you want to code in VB?
[22:46] <unop> chrismo16, if you do it like i showed you, it includes the ones that already exist and the new ones you wish to put in. again.   export PATH=$PATH:"/new/path/here":"another/path/here"
[22:46] <perhamlinux> someone help me please
[22:47] <akatsuki> well thats another programming language
[22:47] <sipher_> slavil :p I was joking. But I guess you missed that one.
[22:47] <Shady> sipher_ no, i boot from the live CD and it sees the 2 seperate drives, not the RAID, until i load up dmraid and then it sees it BUT, it will not let me resize the partition at all
[22:47] <slavi1> sipher_: it's a bad joke (IMO)
[22:47] <akatsuki> im coding for VB
[22:47] <akatsuki> its a class i have
[22:47] <chrismo16> unop, thank you so much
[22:47] <HexKey> Hello everyone, i ahve a rather unusual problem, my XP partition has got a rather nasty virus, so i ahve booted my ubuntu partition. Does anyone know how to format that infected partition so that i may install windows over it again?
[22:47] <slavi1> akatsuki: drop the class, learn something more worthwhile ... like Perl for example :)
[22:47] <akatsuki> im have it on windows but i wonder if is possible on linux
[22:47] <cdoublejj|afk> hey wow it's still running and it's upgraded to fiesty fawn and wine download is working
[22:47] <sipher_> akatsuki, you could try wine. =/ but I don't know.
[22:48] <sipher_> akatsuki, your best bet would be to virtualize.
[22:48] <slavi1> HexKey: boot from windows CD and do not choose repair :)
[22:48] <sipher_> install vmware-server
[22:48] <Kx> HexKey, we wont tell you, we want you to stay with ubuntu :)
[22:48] <FLATRON> #software
[22:48] <emorris> ﻿﻿aa235315: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733795 , post 5, try that
[22:48] <rgb> 1.  Who the hell thought it was a great idea to destroy audio in Linux?
[22:48] <aa235315> thanks!
[22:48] <HexKey> kk slavil i will give it a go
[22:48] <akatsuki> slavil thats actually was i was thinking to do.. the problem is that it was to late.. i wanted to take C# or C++ which is the same class but diffferent language, now is to late, and i need this fu@#$  cause is prerequisite for another one that im taking next session
[22:49] <rgb> 2.  Can one get his address?
[22:49] <akatsuki> so that sucks
[22:49] <akatsuki> big time
[22:49] <emorris> !who|﻿aa235315
[22:49] <HexKey> i <3 ubuntu and do all my programming in it, but unfortunately i ahve to resort to windows for some of ym workspaces
[22:49] <arcos> amenado: I am still having trouble
[22:49] <sipher_> Shady, uhm, you have a windows partition you want to resize?
[22:49] <slavi1> akatsuki: give wine a try ...
[22:49] <akatsuki> ok
[22:49] <sipher_> HexKey, Work =/ policy is windows.
[22:49] <Shady> siper_ exactly
[22:49] <akatsuki> does ubuntu 8.04 already have wine?
[22:49] <arcos> amenado: I dont know the address of the printer
[22:49] <amenado> arcos what did you do?
[22:49] <slavi1> akatsuki: not by default
[22:49] <connyosis> akatsuki: installing windows in virtualbox is a possibility as well
[22:49] <unop> akatsuki, if you are programming with .net classes, mono/c# might be helpful to you
[22:49] <slavi1> yes
[22:50] <JarrettGreen> Hey guys. I've got a box that I've had running dapper for a while. Everything worked fine. I upgraded to hardy and now it seems that proftpd is running really slow. Not in the actual trasnfer time I guess, but waiting time between files, connecting, etc. Anything I could take a look at?
[22:50] <sipher_> Shady, use something like partition magic...and again it may not be possible at all.
[22:50] <HexKey> ok im gonna boot off the windows cd hopefully
[22:50] <HexKey> brb
[22:50] <amenado> arcos if you dont know the address of the printer, I can not help you
[22:50] <slavi1> unop: mono != .net :)
[22:50] <ubunubi> anyknow know what file synaptic stores your "history" log in?
[22:50] <FLATRON> Is it possible to play CSS with high fps on 8.04 ubuntu.....is it
[22:50] <jlulian38> ffff
[22:50] <arcos> Amenado: i went to that site you linked me to, but I have to find the uri
[22:50] <unop> slavi1, i didn't say it was
[22:50] <ASULutzy> Yea, I'm a .net developer, I boot into Hardy and do my .NET development inside of an XP VM
[22:50] <slavi1> FLATRON: high fps meaning what?
[22:50] <arcos> Amenado: I am guessing that it is the ip address?
[22:50] <sipher_> Shady, onboard raid controllers and raid controllers which are "soft" raid's (cheap raid controllers) tend to not work very well with linux.
[22:50] <amenado> arcos that site is your machine,  localhost is 127.0.0.1
[22:50] <slavi1> unop: good :)
[22:50] <sipher_> thats my experience at least.
[22:51] <akatsuki> yeah im taking this class on line and i swear god is the last time i take online classes
[22:51] <FLATRON> slavil with good frames per second... without any lagg
[22:51] <Kx> ubuntulog, try cat /var/log/apt/term.log ?
[22:51] <aa235315> i'll take a look and try and fix it
[22:51] <cdoublejj|afk> hehehe i hope this time it all works alright
[22:51] <Shady> sipher_ i did try Partition Manager, and told it to make the proper partitions and upon reboot, it did absolutely nothing
[22:51] <aa235315> otherwise ill come back here
[22:51] <slavi1> FLATRON: I can't say I get lag ... it crashes sometimes, but mostly works
[22:51] <emorris> ﻿aa235315: at the repair console, you could also try typing:   fixboot
[22:51] <unop> slavi1, but it has some extensive .net support
[22:51] <akatsuki> learning about VB its a waste
[22:51] <sipher_> FLATRON, I <3 nexuiz.
[22:51] <akatsuki> i will give wine a try
[22:51] <sipher_> FLATRON, I get avg 200-400 FPS.
[22:51] <slavi1> unop: I don't need to tell you how microsoft operates, do I?
[22:51] <Shady> sipher_ but there were several people here yesterday saying that it is definitely possible using dmraid and VLM
[22:52] <slavi1> sipher_: nexuis is not css
[22:52] <cdoublejj|afk> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh\
[22:52] <sipher_> Shady, if you do a software raid.
[22:52] <Shady> sipher_ they gave me this info...
[22:52] <Kx> ubunubi, try sudo cat /var/log/apt/term.log ?
[22:52] <Shady> !dmraid
[22:52] <unop> slavi1, no sarcasm please :)
[22:52] <cdoublejj|afk> bash completion hampered wine
[22:52] <cdoublejj|afk> NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[22:52] <FLATRON> hmm...what version of wine u using sipher_ ?
[22:52] <unop> cdoublejj|afk, stop that now
[22:52] <cdoublejj|afk> NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
[22:52] <akatsuki> and i will try vbox later, cause i have windows 64 bit edition... i will get the 32 from a friend
[22:52] <Shady> !fakeraid
[22:52] <akatsuki> and lets see
[22:52] <cdoublejj|afk> sorrry
[22:52] <ASULutzy> cdoublejj|afk: Stop spamming.
[22:52] <ubunubi> Kx: that does have the info..just not in the same format -- does synaptic just parse this file for the "history" view?
[22:52] <slavi1> unop: it was a question ...
[22:52] <sipher_> FLATRON, I'm not using wine for nexuiz. it runs natively on ubuntu.
[22:52] <cdoublejj|afk> i'm pissed i hope wine worked if not
[22:52] <slavi1> ASULutzy: he left a long time ago
[22:52] <ASULutzy> slavi1: Huh?
[22:52] <unop> slavi1, we
[22:52] <Kx> nope, that file is when you upgrade/install from terminal
[22:52] <slavi1> oh, nvm
[22:53] <unop> slavi1, we ought not to digress -- mono was the topic of conversation , not microsoft :)
[22:53] <cdoublejj|afk> ok wine worked but can i fix the bash completion thing ??
[22:53] <slavi1> .net was also mentioned ...
[22:53] <perhamlinux> some one help me with the DVD rom issue
[22:53] <ASULutzy> cdoublejj|afk: I don't know what the issue with bash-completion is? Just do like, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get purge bash-completion && sudo apt-get install bash-completion
[22:53] <magnetron> perhamlinux, just ask the channel your question
[22:54] <ASULutzy> cdoublejj|afk: I still don't see what the problem you're actually having is
[22:54] <izmeh> ifim adding a partition solely for extra storage, should it be extended or primary?
[22:54] <FLATRON> sipher_ how u run CSS without WINE .....i d understand
[22:54] <perhamlinux> magnetron, I asked no body answered
[22:54] <th_> doesnt matter @izmeh
[22:54] <cdoublejj|afk> ASULutzy can i copy and paste that?
[22:54] <sipher_> heh
[22:54] <slavi1> FLATRON: he was talking nexuiz which is a Q3 codebase
[22:54] <izmeh> th_: ty
[22:54] <ASULutzy> cdoublejj|afk: Use a pastebin
[22:54] <slavi1> i think
[22:54] <cdoublejj|afk> kk
[22:54] <ASULutzy> !paste | cdoublejj|afk
[22:54] <sipher_> Shady, so...perty much ...just do a vanila soft raid
[22:54] <sipher_> instead of fucking with fakeraid...
[22:54] <ubunubi> Kx: they're stored in /root/.synaptic/log   ..incase you ever need to locate it!
[22:54] <unop> ASULutzy, bash-completion provides the tab-completion for bash and other utilities like apt-get and so on
[22:55] <crimsun> slavi1: see ac3dec.
[22:55] <magnetron> perhamlinux, questions that starting with "anybody" seldom gets answered
[22:55] <SEPTIMUS> Дарова всем!
[22:55] <Kx> ubunubi, cool, thx
[22:55] <sipher_> it doesn't offer anything...if anything..its not as good as the native software raid in linux.
[22:55] <slavi1> crimsun: ok
[22:55] <ASULutzy> unop: I know what it does, I don't know what exactly the issue he is having is about, something about bash-completion package was corrupt, that's why I asked
[22:55] <slavi1> !ru | SEPTIMUS
[22:55] <ubunubi> Kx: breaks it down by date and time :D
[22:55] <Shady> sipher_ what is vanilla soft-raid?
[22:55] <rchase> hello.  in GRUB what are the other valid options beside splash and quiet?  I want nosplash and verbose.
[22:55] <FLATRON> slavil ...i dont understand what u talking about but okei...i try trought wine
[22:56] <ASULutzy> !language | sipher_
[22:56] <Gnea> rchase: just backspace them
[22:56] <raavi> ASULutzy: Still no success, screen goes blank after reboot...with fglrx as driver in xorg.conf
[22:56] <magnetron> IRC question: when i /ignore something, is it ignored on the server or the client?
[22:56] <slavi1> crimsun: ac3dec works on files or can it do streams, too?
[22:56] <unop> rchase, if you remove splash, you don't have a splash screen, if you remove quiet, you get a verbose dump -- what more do you want? :)
[22:56] <sipher_> Shady, you wouldn't need the fakeraid driver...
[22:56] <ASULutzy> raavi: Even with 3 GB of ram?
[22:56] <rchase> Gnea, so just removing them will not bork my GRUB?  I thought as much.  Thanks
[22:56] <Gnea> rchase: np
[22:56] <monostone> i bet he wasnt expecting that he
[22:57] <Shady> sipher_ are you referring to dmraid?
[22:57] <Shady> sipher_ cuz without it ubuntu sees 2 seperate drives instead of the Raid
[22:57] <rchase> unop, nothing more, just couldn't remember, and google kept failing me
[22:57] <sipher_> what they are saying on the website, is that...either way you do it....you will probably see little benefits of having the fakeraid do it if using the standard raid tools.
[22:57] <raavi> ASULutzy: I did not change the RAM, I thought that script will draw a new boundary for RAM, but I will remove on strip of RAM...
[22:57] <sipher_> Shady, because you have no raid volumes.
[22:57] <arcos> Amenado: thanks I got it
[22:58] <arcos> Amenado: I appriciate your help
[22:58] <ASULutzy> raavi: Oh, the script is only a 1 time fix unless you add it to startup, and the script may need to be modified to work, the first step is to try booting with 3 gb of ram and fglrx
[22:58] <amenado> arcos you're welcome
[22:58] <ASULutzy> raavi: If you can boot with 3 gb and fglrx, then we know that most likely it's an mtrr problem and can go from there
[22:58] <perhamlinux> I have huge problems with my DVD Drive, I even changed the device with another one, the problem still persists. it can't read or write stuff on DVD CDs. it says it's an io error. I can't even boot with the live DVD now. my drive used to be /dev/hda, now it is /dev/scd0. this is crazy, I have an IDE drive. and why should my drive dev file change? I tried changing fstab with no luck. I can get the file list, but I can't read any files. feel free to ask me q
[22:58] <Shady> sipher_ how do you mean no Raid volumes? i guess i dont understand because i have dual 250gb drives in a Raid0
[22:58] <raavi> ASULutzy: okay..
[22:58] <sipher_> oh ic.
[22:58] <perhamlinux> magnetron, I reposted it
[22:58] <ASULutzy> raavi: Yea, just pop a stick out and give it a whirl ;)
[22:59] <Gnea> perhamlinux: have you tried a different cable?
[22:59] <th_> try another cable @perhamlinux
[22:59] <th_> lol
[22:59] <trashguy> perhamlinux, if you cant boot to the device somethign else is wrong
[22:59] <Gnea> perhamlinux: or is it set to cable select or master/slave?
[22:59] <raavi> ASULutzy: see you soon.
[22:59] <SEPTIMUS> И.дрифафмфмидираримиа.мрфмшфафбир.ми
[22:59] <ASULutzy> perhamlinux: Sounds like you might have a jumper wrong?
[22:59] <perhamlinux> Gnea: it's master
[22:59] <ASULutzy> !ru | SEPTIMUS
[23:00] <slavi1> SEPTIMUS: что тебе надо от этих добрых людей? :)
[23:00] <Gnea> perhamlinux: do you have any other devices on that ide channel?
[23:00] <SEPTIMUS> Иаирфшфафд.шидрдафмфрашд.д.димиш.сиафм.рдафш.ри
[23:00] <Gnea> SEPTIMUS: 17:48 < SEPTIMUS> ?.???????????????????.???????????.??
[23:00] <perhamlinux> trashguy, it's set on master, and the other CDrom device is set on slave
[23:00] <unop> !english
[23:00] <magnetron> perhamlinux, IDE drives isn't called /dev/hd* anymore, any drive can be a /dev/sd* now
[23:00] <sipher_> heh Shady, struggle. You'll figure it out.
[23:00] <SEPTIMUS> !
[23:01] <Gnea> perhamlinux: try setting them both to cable select
[23:01] <perhamlinux> well, it's an scd, not sdc, and that's strange magnetron
[23:01] <SEPTIMUS> ?
[23:01] <unop> perhamlinux, he said /dev/scd* tho :) which has always been the naming convention for optical devices
[23:01] <Shady> lol i have tried everything i can find, and nothing seems to work =(
[23:01] <SEPTIMUS> ?
[23:01] <Shady> looks like if i want it to dual boot i am going to have to break up the Raid and start all over
[23:01] <perhamlinux> Gnea: you think it's a cable thing?
[23:01] <SEPTIMUS> ?
[23:01] <ASULutzy> perhamlinux: Don't take this as an insult, but you do have it all plugged in correctly, right? One time when I had a huge brain fart I plugged the middle channel of the IDE ribbon into the MoBo and each end into the devices and was then perplexed as to why it didn't work. I asked a friend and rofl'd at me till I realized how dumb a mistake it was ;)
[23:01] <sipher_> uhm, and you do realize that you can install linux on a windows partition?
[23:02] <pocketprotector> yo
[23:02] <Gnea> perhamlinux: either that or put the drives on different channels - i've had that problem before, been a long time
[23:02] <sipher_> Shady, ya?
[23:02] <ArthurArchnix> !ru | SEPTIMUS
[23:02] <pocketprotector> anyone know where i can find a lost of all options for pxe installer?
[23:02] <zyrorl_> does anyone know if there are any Intel 4965 AGN drivers that support Draft-N speeds??
[23:02] <perhamlinux> ASULutzy, yes, I'm not a noob, I'm just a little inexperienced in linux
[23:02] <SEPTIMUS> .д.дрфмфмфдрфсмафаимширдифам.афм.шхрф
[23:02] <cdoublejj|afk> hey whats it mean if it says it can't mount location when i try to use my flppy drive?
[23:02] <pocketprotector> lost=list
[23:02] <Gnea> !spam | SEPTIMUS
[23:02] <cdoublejj|afk> russian?
[23:02] <unop> SEPTIMUS, please go to #ubuntu-ru for russian
[23:02] <Gnea> SEPTIMUS: /join #ubuntu-ru
[23:03] <beaupa> hey everyone, installed the desktop for the first time today. Can someone help explain how to auto mount my partitions? Is there a filemanager that does this automatically? (I am using gnome.
[23:03] <Shady> sipher_:i did try doing that with ubuntu 8 but it still did not work, when booted into Ubuntu it went to shell only because it saw the 2 seperate drives still
[23:03] <unop> Gnea, his client might not understand english commands :)
[23:03] <perhamlinux> Gnea, I'll try that in a moment, I'm just waiting for other suggestions to act upon all of them
[23:03] <ASULutzy> beaupa: edit your fstab to get that going
[23:03] <ASULutzy> !fstab | beaupa
[23:03] <Gnea> unop: bleh
[23:03] <majortool_> anyone know why im getting: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory?
[23:03] <cdoublejj|afk> partions beaupa isn't it easyer to use just one partion or are you dual booting
[23:03] <SEPTIMUS> МОЯ ТВОЯ НЕ ПОНИМАТЬ!
[23:03] <Gnea> perhamlinux: no big hurry :)
[23:04] <unop> majortool, you haven't loaded the modules necessary for that interface perhaps
[23:04] <majortool_> unop, b43 is loaded.  i have this working in gentoo
[23:04] <beaupa> thanks ASULutzy
[23:04] <ASULutzy> cdoublejj|afk, beaupa: Could easily have more than 1 hard drive, etc... Just edit your /etc/fstab file
[23:04] <perhamlinux> @ all, I'll be back soon.
[23:04] <Matthew12> in gxine I get this error: Error reading NAV packet. any ideas?
[23:04] <monostone> SEPTIMUS: держите это в английском 'друге'
[23:04] <ASULutzy> beaupa: No problem :)
[23:04] <unop> majortool, unload b43, and reload it, then have a look in dmesg to see what the problem could be
[23:05] <pocketprotector> Anybody know about PXE? where might i find a list of all available for the "append" option?
[23:05] <ASULutzy> This channel is English only. PM Septimus if he can't figure out how to /join #ubuntu-ru, but quit it with the Russian in the channel :)
[23:05] <unop> majortool, and ubuntu is not gentoo :)
[23:05] <Gnea> SEPTIMUS: Это англоязычных irc канал. Просьба присоединиться # убунту-ру, никто не может помочь вам здесь, и вы делаете большое количество людей с ума только путем ввода на русском языке.
[23:05] <majortool_> unop, thank you, that definitely helped
[23:05] <Swish> cool.  character sets.
[23:05] <unop> majortool, are you being sarcastic?
[23:05] <Gnea> i have no idea if that went through or not
[23:05] <monostone> just babelfish and have some fun
[23:06] <ASULutzy> beaupa: Just incase you don't know how to tell which partitions are which, you can use sudo fdisk -l (that's a lowercase 'L') to figure out which partitions are which and then edit your fstab file accordingly
[23:06] <Swish> ASULutzy, do you know of a way to defrag the root filesystem on reboot?
[23:06] <beaupa> ok, im gonna give this a go, thx again, bbl
[23:06] <Swish> I see that fsck for ext3 has a "preen" feature but it doesn't seem to do anything
[23:06] <Swish> so touch /forcefsck does no significant defragging
[23:07] <Gnea> Swish: fsck does not defrag
[23:07] <ASULutzy> Swish: ext3 doesn't need defragmentation so long as it isn't nearly full. Keep at least 10 or 15% disk space free and ext3 won't ever need to be defragmented
[23:07] <whileimhere> I am using an external USB 3.25 disc drive. I have a bunch of old Apple files on these 3.25 discs and they are mostly just writting I have done. Is it possible to get them on linux and make use of them?
[23:07] <SEPTIMUS> А люди че здеся неруские я тоже неруский!
[23:07] <ArthurArchnix> Swish ext3 defragging tools are hard to come by. The easiest method is to move everything off the partition, then back onto the partition.
[23:07] <SEPTIMUS> Аднвдрми
[23:07] <slavi1> SEPTIMUS: type english
[23:07] <Swish> ASULutzy, it's been about 70-90% full doing rotating backups for a few years, and yes it's fragmented to hell
[23:07] <SEPTIMUS> А.имермифмрд,фрдаисдмш
[23:08] <unop> !ops | SEPTIMUS
[23:08] <Shujah> ASULutzy,  sudo touch /forcefsck
[23:08] <maybeway36> whileimhere: not sure what FS they use, but you could back up the disks with "dd if=/dev/xxx of=filename/img"
[23:08] <ASULutzy> I'd hate to use the !ops trigger... can an op reading this help Septimus
[23:08] <_El_Chojin_> there is someone with a Conceptronic C54Ri wireless card??
[23:08] <andycas> How to remove vlc players "vlc" text on top left corner?
[23:08] <raavi> ASULutzy: Great, it worked ow.
[23:08] <Swish> ArthurArchnix, *nod* :(
[23:08] <raavi> now*
[23:08] <cdoublejj|afk> "Just edit your /etc/fstab file" for as many problems i have been having that doesn't sound safe
[23:08] <Shujah> ASULutzy,  it's not what you would call a proper defarg utility but it'll look for any errors in /root
[23:08] <Myrtti> !ru | SEPTIMUS
[23:08] <UltraNav> hi there ! Is there an up-to-date howto for xen on ubuntu ? ubuntu-xen-desktop does not install (package missing - pretty ridiculous for an LTS)...
[23:08] <Gnea> Myrtti: enough.
[23:09] <ASULutzy> Swish: Ah... I don't know of a defragmentation tool offhand for ext3... I guess you could sudo cp -ax / /somewhere/else and then do the inverse? lol that's real ghetto... I think I googled ext3 defrag and found a couple tools, but who knows, seems risky ;)
[23:09] <unop> Myrtti, he pays no attention to that
[23:09] <majortool_> can anyone point me to kernel upgrade text?
[23:09] <Myrtti> unop: I have to see it myself once more
[23:09] <unop> Gnea, myrtti is an op :)
[23:09] <Gnea> :)
[23:09] <Swish> it'd be nice to at least have a touch /defragfs and have it do it on next boot or something :)
[23:09] <SEPTIMUS> Моя ваша не понемать!
[23:09] <ASULutzy> Myrtti: We've done the !ru trigger about 20 times
[23:09] <Swish> or even kernel support for live defragging!
[23:09] <Swish> ASULutzy, yeah... no. :D
[23:10] <raavi> ASULutzy: Now, I have the display, glxgears pumps out more then 72000 frames in 5 secs...
[23:10] <Gnea> Swish: but... ext3 doesn't defrag
[23:10] <Shady> ok anyone else have a clue how i can get ubuntu to shrink my NTFS windows partition on a RAID0 array, so that I can install Ubuntu for Dual Boot?, it keeps seeing 2 seperate drives instead of the RAID
[23:10] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: I recall seeing someone had written a script... someone credible, but I'm having trouble finding it and he did it more as a proof of concept than a supported program.
[23:10] <andycas> How to remove vlc players "vlc" text on top left corner?
[23:10] <Gnea> Swish: it gets fsck'd, but not defragged
[23:10] <ASULutzy> Swish: It is odd that there is absolutely no tool available via synaptic as far as I know that can be used to defragment ext3...
[23:10] <Swish> someone wrote an offline one called defrag2fs
[23:10] <Myrtti> ASULutzy: I still don't make quick calls
[23:10] <ASULutzy> Myrtti: You're a good op ;)
[23:10] <Swish> Gnea, that's too bad because this ext3 is definitely fragmented
[23:10] <monostone> понемать right back at you
[23:10] <maybeway36> defrag2fs might be on a live cd somewhere...
[23:10] <ubunubi> Shady: do you have a real RAID card, or are you using software raid?
[23:10] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: Using ext2 tools is pretty risky.
[23:10] <simotempler> Hi can anyone help me with the following PLEASE! - if I logon as root and - sudo nautilus and delete a video game folder cause it wont uninstall where does it go when deleted here cause it hasnt free d up the disk space
[23:10] <Swish> the proof is in the pudding.  copying off data from the fragmented fs to another identical machine.. then doing an md5 on both machines... the fresh machine completes in less than 1/3 the time
[23:11] <Swish> if that's not fragmentation i don't know what is :>
[23:11] <Shady> ubunubi: it is onboard Raid Controller
[23:11] <_El_Chojin_> i have a problem with my pci card, sometimes locks computer and need to reboot
[23:11] <ASULutzy> simotempler: I read if I login as root, and I immediately got scared
[23:11] <ubunubi> Shady: ICH ?
[23:11] <Gnea> Swish: perhaps you should look into the source a bit more and figure out how the filesystems really operate. you could simply press the power button and force the system to turn off, that would turn the fsck on at boot.
[23:11] <_El_Chojin_> i have seen that is problem of driver
[23:11] <maybeway36> simotempler: root's trash. Try deleting /root/.local/share/Trash
[23:11] <Myrtti> simotempler: login as root?????
[23:11] <ASULutzy> simotempler: Check /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash if you're using Hardy
[23:11] <UltraNav> ﻿simotempler: empty the trash
[23:11] <whileimhere> Maybeway36: Looks like it works natively.
[23:11] <lucas_> simotempler, if u are root dont need to use sudo... it goes to /root/.local/share/Trash
[23:11] <simotempler> sorry just sudo nau....
[23:12] <Shady> ubunubi: ICH??
[23:12] <_El_Chojin_> i have compiled the original of ralik but don't recognize card after reboot :(
[23:12] <Shujah> there is a defrag tool :D
[23:12] <maybeway36> he's not logged in as root, he used nautilus with  sudo
[23:12] <Myrtti> simotempler: use gksudo with all the graphical apps
[23:12] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: No one could argue that ext3 doesn't fragment. It's just very hard to get it to fragment so much that it affects performance. But certainly, using it as a rotating backup hard-drive sounds like one of those ways. Perhaps you ought to consider a different fs than ext3?
[23:12] <ASULutzy> simotempler: Alternatively it could be /root/.local/share/Trash, but you wouldn't actually be logging in as root because that'd be a really bad practice, right? ;)
[23:12] <ubunubi> Shady: is your onboard raid using an ICH?R (ICH7R,ICH8R or ICH9R) or some other chip like nvidia raid?
[23:12] <maybeway36> whileimhere: nice.
[23:12] <Swish> ArthurArchnix.  I wish I could.  Part of the problem is this is a remote server (headless) and if I had access to it I could simply defrag it or whatever myself from the console, but I don't :)
[23:12] <ASULutzy> Shujah: What's the defrag tool?
[23:13] <maybeway36> Well, simotempler deleted a folder as root, so it's probably in root's trash
[23:13] <Shujah> check out this link for ubuntu -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169551  <-pyfragtools
[23:13] <Shady> ubunubi: ah, iirc, yes
[23:13] <snoopy> was muss ich tun um jdownloader zu "deinstallieren"? es langt doch die ganzen dateien einfach zu loeschen, oder?
[23:13] <Shujah> but I havent used it myself :|
[23:13] <ubunubi> Shady: you probably want to find out which one it is...before proceeding
[23:13] <mneptok> !de > snoopy
[23:13] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: Ok... well, let me take a look for that script I told you about. Like I said, I trusted the source.
[23:13] <Swish> ArthurArchnix, I'd appreciate that :)
[23:13] <snoopy> gr
[23:13] <ubunubi> Shady: linux doesn't like crappy onboard raid very much...so since it's going to be a struggle..you want to be armed with information before you start, like exactly which onboard raid chip you're using
[23:13] <ASULutzy> Shujah, Swish: You use it first, then let me know how it goes, I'd like to play with it ;)
[23:14] <Swish> at least you guys are in agreement that defrag tools don't really exist
[23:14] <Swish> haha
[23:14] <ASULutzy> Swish: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169551 has a good looking script
[23:14] <phish> After i install a package is it safe to delete the .deb files it leaves behind? ( i've got a small hd ) Also, is there a command that does this already?
[23:14] <snoopy> what do i have to do if i want to uninstall jdownloader? is it enough to delete all files?
[23:14] <Shady> ubunubi checking that right now
[23:14] <Swish> ASULutzy, I have the feeling that I'll be playing with it in VMs first ;)
[23:14] <ForsakenSoul> hey guys I'm having trouble with my sound
[23:14] <simotempler> cheers guys
[23:14] <Silivrenion> hey folks, where can I get the ubuntu live cd ISO?
[23:14] <Shujah> nalyze finished. 1.0 % fragmentation (2 files), 13.3 average frags/MB :D
[23:14] <andycas> How to remove vlc players "vlc" text on top left corner?
[23:14] <mneptok> Swish: defrag tools on Linux are like male nipples.
[23:14] <ForsakenSoul> I got sound for everything and it worked well until this afternoon when my father sat down and now I have no sound for my vlc player and for firefox
[23:15] <Swish> mneptok, I resent that.  I have very nice male nipples.
[23:15] <ubunubi> mneptok: there's always 2, maybe 3 of them?
[23:15] <Swish> yet I still can't find a nice defrag tool ;)
[23:15] <snoopy> what do i have to do if i want to uninstall jdownloader? is it enough to delete all files?
[23:15] <unop> Swish, you could move fragmented files around in hope that they occupy contiguous blocks on the file system - almost like defragmenting, but not quite the same
[23:15]  * Swish looks at that ubuntuforums URL
[23:15] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, try moving from pulseaudio to alsa
[23:15] <simotempler> was kicking myself but knew u guys had the answer
[23:15] <ForsakenSoul> Shujah:  I'm using alsa
[23:15] <mneptok> Swish: you don't need to defrag
[23:15] <Gnea> Swish: yes, well, when you've used something for well over a decade, you tend to know what you're talking about ;)
[23:15] <mneptok> Swish: welcome to real filesystems
[23:15] <tennispolska> hey there, How do I increase my display settings on my laptop from 800x600 to something bigger, because it only allows me up to 800x600 and I want to get like 1280 like i do in vista
[23:15] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, so at this moment there is no sound at all in your sys?
[23:15] <Swish> mneptok, you must be trying to make a joke ;)
[23:16] <ForsakenSoul> and Shujah I tried to move the options from alsa to oss
[23:16] <ForsakenSoul> no luck
[23:16] <mneptok> Swish: no.
[23:16] <unop> mneptok, you might need to defrag if you don't have enough freespace left on the device
[23:16] <ForsakenSoul> just reinstalled all of my alsa packages
[23:16] <ASULutzy> mneptok: he has a very specific situation that does indeed call for defragging
[23:16] <lucas_> guys i have an intel sound card and alsa, i want to play multiple sounds, like having audacious running and still could hear youtube videos at the same time, is that possible... hows done?
[23:16] <ubunubi> tennispolska: i'd start with figuring out what video card your laptop uses. then download the appropriate driver
[23:16] <Swish> Gnea, length of time doesn't seem to have much to do with it.  I've met some very competant people who haven't used a system for very long, and some real boneheads who've used it for decades ;)
[23:16] <ForsakenSoul> no Shujah I have sound for my music player
[23:16] <ForsakenSoul> audacious
[23:16] <Silivrenion> I'm looking for a place to download the Ubuntu Live CD, but I can't find it. The ubuntu download page does not have it.
[23:16] <mneptok> unop: ext3 root exclusivity is designed for that issue.
[23:16] <Gnea> !language | Swish
[23:16] <tennispolska> thanks
[23:16] <ForsakenSoul> but I get no sound from Firefox and from VLC movie player
[23:16] <mneptok> Swish: why do you need to defrag?
[23:17] <ubunubi> Silivrenion: all the ISO's on the ubuntu.com download site are LiveCDs I believe...definately the DESKTOP versions
[23:17] <pocketprotector> man why is this information so hard to find
[23:17] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, u want to play multiple sounds at the same time?
[23:17] <johnnypea> hello,what could be problem when my "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings" doesnt want to start...
[23:17] <Swish> mneptok, same group of ... 75GB or so files.  On the "fragmented" server, an md5sum of those files takes about three times longer than on another server (if I just copy the files to the other server; identical hardware)
[23:17] <ompaul> ubunubi, the alternative is not
[23:17] <ForsakenSoul> lucas_:  I've always been able to do that
[23:17] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, Firefix might have a problem with flash lots of people are facing it
[23:17] <ASULutzy> Gnea: You used the language trigger for bonehead? lol
[23:17] <Gnea> pocketprotector: what information?
[23:17] <Swish> this is hardly a critical issue, but it still is one
[23:17] <ompaul> ubunubi, the server is not
[23:17] <mneptok> Swish: have you fsck'ed the partition in question recently?
[23:18] <Swish> ASULutzy, I was wondering that too ;)
[23:18] <Shujah> but vlc shouldnt have that problem
[23:18] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, well... i cant do that, how u do it?
[23:18] <ForsakenSoul> Shujah:  I haven't done any updates
[23:18] <unop> mneptok, but ext3 is not insusceptible to fragmentation although it does its best to stop fragmentation from happening
[23:18] <ubunubi> ompaul: the server is not a DESKTOP distribution, it's a SEVER distribution
[23:18] <pocketprotector> im tryng to find all of the PXE options for "append"
[23:18] <ForsakenSoul> it worked a couple of hours ago
[23:18] <Gnea> ASULutzy: he was being insulting.
[23:18] <Swish> mneptok, I did a touch /forcefsck and rebooted the server, yes
[23:18] <cpierce_> whats everone's opinion on tape vs external hdd for backup?
[23:18] <ForsakenSoul> my father sat down on the pc
[23:18] <ForsakenSoul> and now they don';t
[23:18] <pocketprotector> "append ip=dhcp.."
[23:18] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:18] <mneptok> Swish: try a "sudo fsck -yf /dev/whatever" with the device unmounted
[23:18] <mneptok> err...
[23:18] <Swish> mneptok, it's my root fs bud :)
[23:18] <mneptok> Swish: try a "sudo fsck.ext3 -yf /dev/whatever" with the device unmounted
[23:18] <hlfshell> s3a, you there?
[23:18] <ForsakenSoul> lucas_:  easy just play music in audacious and start a flash in firefox and both sounds play
[23:18] <ForsakenSoul> :D
[23:18] <ASULutzy> Gnea: Subjective I'd say ;) he wasn't calling anyone here in particular a name, just pointing out that some people are boneheads, which is not really all that offensive :)
[23:18] <Shady> ubunubi: Intel(R) 82801GR/GH SATA RAID Controller which is an ICH7
[23:18] <ForsakenSoul> easy as pie don't know
[23:19] <mneptok> Swish: so boot from optical media
[23:19] <unop> cpierce, if your external HDD can be transported off-site, then it's easier to use than a tape drive
[23:19] <s3a> hlfshell: ya
[23:19] <Swish> mneptok, as I said earlier, it's a headless remote server
[23:19] <Kx> lucas_, One of the most notable new features of PulseAudio is the ability to change the volume of applications interdependently, this can be accessed to by the program pavucontrol (you may want to add a launcher for it to your panel). https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[23:19] <hlfshell> s3a: just got back from food. did all work out well for you?
[23:19] <Swish> if I could boot it locally I wouldn't be here ;)
[23:19] <ForsakenSoul> lucas_:  btw it doesn't play even separetely
[23:19] <ASULutzy> Swish: I might give this python script a try, it looks neat ;)
[23:19] <mneptok> Swish: so then use the serial console.
[23:19] <ubunubi> Shady: you should look up a raid tutorial for using DMRAID with ich7r and that will get you started. be very careful though, or your windows data can be blitzed by following an out of date tutorial
[23:19] <Swish> dmraid or mdraid?
[23:19] <s3a> hlfshell: well i dint attempt usb yet since im lazy and talkin to my gf on msn lol but other than that things r going good
[23:20] <Shady> dmraid
[23:20] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, try to find some comand like dpkg reconfigure sound or something like that...
[23:20] <crimsun> rgb: just prefix statements with my nick and some punctuation; that should help
[23:20] <perhamlinux> ok, guy
[23:20] <Shady> ubunubi thanks man i will look into that
[23:20] <perhamlinux> ok,guys*
[23:20] <Fank> Hi, I'm completely new to having 2 OS's on a single computer and am currently running Vista. My questions is if have both Vista and Ubuntu, how do I choose which OS I want to use when I boot up the computer.
[23:20] <ForsakenSoul> lucas_:  where do I find the command ?
[23:20] <Gnea> ASULutzy: the fact that he felt he had to resort to that level of ignorance is pretty insulting within this community. at any rate, good luck.
[23:21] <hlfshell> s3a - ok. just wanted to make sure you werent having full screen/resolution options.
[23:21] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, google for that never had that problem----- or maybe... go to system then preferences and in sound see there the options, maybe ur dad click on something he shouldnt
[23:21] <perhamlinux> nothing have been solved. changed the cable, st both drives to cable select
[23:21] <unop> fank, you will be prompted for which one to boot up into when you start up the computer
[23:21] <unop> Fank, that is, if you set them up right
[23:21] <ForsakenSoul> lucas_:  looked at the options they are fine
[23:21] <ForsakenSoul> at least for the volume control
[23:21] <rgb> crimsun: Standard etiquette yes.
[23:21] <skytimer> Can someone help me I am trying to compile an NVidia proprietary driver and I am getting the following error: Unable to determine the version of the kernel sources located in '/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-server/build' Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel and that they are properly configured.....
[23:21] <Gnea> Swish: and btw: http://www.howforge.com/how-force-fsck-ubuntu
[23:21] <s3a> hlfshell: no that works so well, i have windows as a window :)
[23:21] <monostone> talking about sound. How can I enable the volume control and mute buttons to control the PCM volume, since master volume does absolutely nothing. I am using 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
[23:21] <perhamlinux> here's dmesg prompts: www.linux.perham.ir/temp/report.txt
[23:21] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, google dpkg reconfigure sound.... or something like that
[23:22] <crimsun> rgb: please add the output from `dmesg ; cat /proc/interrupts' to that pastebin
[23:22] <Fank> Thanks unop. Mind if I ask some more questions?
[23:22] <phish> After i install a package is it safe to delete the .deb files it leaves behind? ( i've got a small hd ) Also, is there a command that does this already?
[23:22] <pocketprotector>  HERE IT IS, I FOUND IT: http://dslab.lzu.edu.cn/members/wangbj/cvsdoc/pxe-nfsroot.txt
[23:22] <pocketprotector> please ad this to whatever tool we use here.
[23:22] <ubunubi> phish: yes, unless you plan on needing to reinstall it in the future and don't want to find it and redownload it
[23:22] <unop> Fank, sure, please do
[23:22] <ForsakenSoul> lucas_:  that's the command that's supposed to return my sound options to default ?
[23:22] <Swish> Gnea, both work.  but the shutdown method was broken in 6.1 so I didn't want to chance it with Hardy
[23:22] <hlfshell> cool s3a
[23:22] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, or reinstall alsa.... that would do the job i think
[23:22] <Gnea> Swish: ah
[23:22] <perhamlinux> Gnea, changed the cable, still no difference. ﻿http://linux.perham.ir/temp/report.txt my dmesg prompts
[23:22] <Swish> Gnea, sorry you feel so injured about the "insulting remark", no offense was intended :)
[23:22] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, try first to reinstall alsa...
[23:22] <crimsun> monostone: select the desired elements by using System> Preferences> Sound> Devices> Default mixer tracks
[23:23] <phish> ubunubi: is there a command to do this automatically?
[23:23] <unop> phish, it is
[23:23] <Fank> Alright. Can I use files on my computer with both Vista and Ubuntu, or do I have to make separate partitions for both?
[23:23] <ubunubi> phish:: what program//method are you using to install the deb?
[23:23] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, hehe sorry im givin u a lot of options, all may work... but first try reinstalling alsa
[23:23] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, open vlc > preferences > audio > tick advanced options > audio output - what do you see here?
[23:23] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: Ok, here you go http://polishlinux.org/apps/cli/defragmentation-of-linux-filesystems/
[23:23] <unop> phish, sudo apt-get autoclean
[23:23]  * Swish looks!
[23:23] <phish> I use synaptic package manager, sometimes apt-get
[23:23] <Gnea> Swish: not injured in the slightest, thank you for addressing the issue :)
[23:23] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: Not quite what I remembered, but it was a while ago
[23:23] <unop> phish, but that might not remove packages that you installed manually
[23:24] <monostone> crimsun: that enables me to control the volume, but my keyboard controls still only affect the master volume and master mute, which has no effect on my box
[23:24] <rgb> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/1068608
[23:24] <perhamlinux> unop, my drive is sr1, that's not a common name for cd drives, is it?
[23:24] <ubunubi> phish: try to install all your apps through synaptic, and you can set it to discard the install files after install
[23:24] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: Basically, it's risky and if you've got a bunch of large files (say more than 2GB's) or not much free space (say only 30%), you may not have much luck.
[23:24] <Gnea> perhamlinux: tried just that one cdrom on the ide channel by itself?
[23:24] <phish> ubunubi: where in synaptic can i set that?
[23:24] <Swish> ArthurArchnix, yeah this doesn't look very promising.. neither one, as they don't do free-space consolidation
[23:24] <Swish> neat scripts though :)
[23:24] <crimsun> monostone: you should be able to bind additional mixer elements to your keyboard controls through that menu.  That's why it was created.
[23:24] <unop> Fank, you can use wubi which installs ubuntu onto your windows partition -- that's easy for people who are new to dual-booting, plus it saves the hassle of needing to create seperate partitions which you must otherwise have
[23:25] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: And you can't switch to xfs?
[23:25] <ForsakenSoul> Shujah:  you mean the output module right ?
[23:25] <crimsun> rgb: sec
[23:25] <unop> !wubi | fank
[23:25] <perhamlinux> should I restart? I can remove the cable now, the case is open
[23:25] <Shujah> yup
[23:25] <ubunubi> phish: settings>prefer>files>Delete Downloaded packages after installation
[23:25] <perhamlinux> gnea,﻿should I restart? I can remove the cable now, the case is open
[23:25] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: Free space consolidation?
[23:25] <koolranch> Hi everyone, I'm a shell noob and could use some help: I'm reading a guide on how to decrease power consumption, and the author includes this code, "echo 5 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode."  What does echo mean here?
[23:25] <monostone> crimsun: I am checking now, thank you
[23:25] <phish> ubunubi: thanks :)
[23:25] <Swish> ArthurArchnix, even if I did have access to the console I probably wouldn't.  After reading about fs reliability, ext3 > [jfs, xfs] > reiser
[23:25] <Shiba> where is device / adapter informaation kept for network interfaces?
[23:25] <ASULutzy> Swish: I'm running the python one now on /home/$USER :P
[23:25] <Swish> ArthurArchnix, "defragging the free space"
[23:25] <unop> perhamlinux, names don't really matter, but i must say, that's an unusal name for an optical drive
[23:25] <ubunubi> phish:: just remember if you install through some other way besides synaptic..that setting won't apply
[23:25] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, did it work?
[23:25] <Gnea> perhamlinux: i would try every avenue of troubleshooting until it's been determined that the drive itself is not at fault.
[23:26] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: umm... how do you defrag free space?
[23:26] <Shujah> echo will write the line to a file I think :|
[23:26] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: Put it all together?
[23:26] <Gnea> perhamlinux: if you have another system that you could try the drive in, for instance
[23:26] <Shiba> /etc/network isn't it, I've been there.  My problem is that a network adapter called tun0 keeps popping up and I can't see how itis being configured.
[23:26] <yasin> hi
[23:26] <Swish> ArthurArchnix, you move files around so that the free space ends up in one big chunk at the end of a disk :)
[23:26] <Gnea> perhamlinux: or try plugging it into the other ide channel later on
[23:26] <ArthurArchnix> Swish: That sounds like a really bad, bad idea.
[23:26] <ASULutzy> Swish: You don't want that
[23:26] <ubunubi> shiba:: ifconfig   ...after tun0 pops up to see info about it
[23:26] <Swish> ArthurArchnix, why so?  it would make future writes quicker
[23:26] <crimsun> rgb: which applications are affected by this?  Are you using a default install without customisations to sound dialogues?  (i.e., PulseAudio)
[23:26] <unop> Shujah, echo has nothing to do with that, it depends on the redirection you use,  > vs >>
[23:26] <ASULutzy> Swish: ext3 works specifically not like that
[23:26] <ForsakenSoul> lucas_:  wait a moment I'm following Shujah now ... btw just for information ... VLC kinda blocks on almost every step
[23:26] <Gnea> Swish: heh, ntfs > reiser
[23:26] <monostone> crimsun: Thank you very much
[23:26] <Shujah> oops soory :D tahts why I said i think.
[23:26] <Shiba> ubunubi: the problem is that this breaks routing and consistenntly comes up when the system boots
[23:27] <phish> ubunubi: I've got a ton of .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ would it be safe to delete them?
[23:27] <ASULutzy> Swish: it leaves space around files allowing them to grow and shrink without fragmenting all that much, as far as I understand it
[23:27] <perhamlinux> I had a sony with same problem.this one is liteon and the problem is still there. I try connecting it on the other. I'll be back. Gnea
[23:27] <Swish> Gnea, yeah, I'd consider NTFS > ext3 too, but I might meet some resistence there :D
[23:27] <rgb> crimsun: Audacious and mplayer both suffer from it.
[23:27] <ubunubi> phish:: yes
[23:27] <ubunubi> phish:: i just did it and cleared out almost 700mb
[23:27]  * unop believe reiser > extX 
[23:27] <Swish> (I am not enough of an fs nerd to back my statement though, so I'll back off that one) :)
[23:27] <ForsakenSoul> Shujah:  output module is defualt it was alsa but I changed it it didn't work neither way
[23:27] <koolranch> Shuja: so I input the command with echo in front of it, and that's it?  The shell does not respond in any way once I do that, and that's ok?
[23:27] <Shiba> ubunubi: I need to find where this configuration is stored and wipe it out
[23:27] <superraton> Help to run wireless
[23:27] <crimsun> rgb: are web browsers with, say, a Java and/or Flash plugin, ever involved?
[23:27] <rgb> crimsun: Firefox's flash also suffers but there the video and audio don't even synch as in mplayer.
[23:27] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, dont need to configure programs, need to configure alsa... re install alsa and options will go to default... believe me
[23:27] <Gnea> Swish: NTFS cannot translate EXT3, but EXT3 can translate NTFS, therefore EXT3 > NTFS in my book :)
[23:27] <Shiba> ubunubi: is there nowhere other than /etc/network?
[23:27] <Tomasso> how do i get into a remote windows vpn ?
[23:27] <Swish> ASULutzy, I didn't know that.. I thought the initial inode was the only slack space that was allocated to files on creation to allow them to grow
[23:27] <ArthurArchnix> Swish Gnea There are a lot of bad ideas floating around right now.
[23:27] <ubunubi> shiba:: sorry, i'm not an expert at the networking side of things yet :)
[23:27] <ForsakenSoul> lucas_:  reinstalled it before coming inhere
[23:28] <rgb> crimsun: As for sound dialogues customisations, I turned off system sounds.
[23:28] <Gnea> Swish: but Samba can be pretty reliable at times ;)
[23:28] <rgb> crimsun: I.e. login and logout sounds.
[23:28] <superraton> hello
[23:28] <crimsun> rgb: to be precise, if you _only_ use audacious [but no web browser or Java app], is the symptom exhibited?
[23:28] <ForsakenSoul> lucas_:  typed in alsa in the synaptic manager and reinstalled all of the ticked packages
[23:28] <Swish> ew samba!  at least it might possibly be faster than NFS, but that's not saying much! :D
[23:28] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, need to restart alsa then, reinstall then restart computer
[23:28] <zyrorl_> Tomasso:  you need pptp client
[23:28] <superraton> please help with my wireless
[23:28] <Swish> anyone tried nfs4 on ubuntu?
[23:28] <Gnea> ArthurArchnix: it's those bad ideas that tend to infuriate me.
[23:28] <Shujah> output module > alsa has which device?
[23:28] <ForsakenSoul> oh ok
[23:28] <ForsakenSoul> brb
[23:28] <rgb> crimsun: Will test.
[23:28] <superraton> ok
[23:28] <Tomasso> zyrorl_, let me check
[23:28] <s3a> does ubuntu have any proprietary wireless card drivers by default?
[23:28] <Swish> I've been meaning to do that, but I've been so happy with the release of scst iSCSI 1.0 that I've been using that :)
[23:28] <zyrorl_> s3a dont thinks o
[23:29] <Swish> (scst compiles cleanly on 8.04 btw!!)
[23:29] <unop> !ot
[23:29] <koolranch> Shujah: so I input the command with echo in front of it, and that's it? The shell does not respond in any way once I do that, and that's ok?
[23:29] <Gnea> Swish: let me let you in on a little secret about this channel: stick to the facts, keep your opinion out of it, and don't be insulting. you'll live longer, k? :)
[23:29] <ASULutzy> Swish: It's been a while, but I think I read it somewhere or another, that that's one of the reasons ext3 doesn't fragment very much, because it allows for files to grow and shrink, which older filesystems didn't, not 100% sure though, and I'd bet quite a bit that someone else in the channel knows quite a bit more on it
[23:29] <unop> koolranch, what are you trying to do?
[23:29] <Swish> Gnea, thanks, and I know the rules ;)  I've been on IRC over a decade too ;)
[23:29] <superraton> hello I need help
[23:29] <Ziggy__> !ask
[23:30] <s3a> zyrorl_: r u sure cuz gnewsense says debian and ubuntu have bad things in the kernel...i wanted to no if pressing f6 on ubuntu boot and selecting free software only makes the kernel 100% free
[23:30] <zyrorl_> anyone know if its possible to get Draft-N support in linux with intel wireless drivers
[23:30] <ubunubi> supperaton:: get to the point :P spit it out in one line
[23:30] <Shujah> koolranch, utop may help you better in this case, my memory of commands is kinda fuzzy
[23:30] <rgb> crimsun: 46 seconds in.
[23:30] <koolranch> I'm trying to reduce power consumption by following a guide for the matter
[23:30] <rgb> crimsun: Audacious lasts about twice as long before cutting.
[23:30] <unop> koolranch, and what step are you stuck at now?
[23:30] <rgb> crimsun: Will say when it continues.
[23:30] <crimsun> rgb: and this is from a fresh boot?
[23:30] <Gnea> Swish: thanks, and you are now on /ignore
[23:30] <rgb> crimsun: Yup.
[23:30] <crimsun> rgb: _without_ having opened a web browser.
[23:30] <rgb> crimsun: Without having Firefox open.
[23:31] <Fank> unop: thanks for the link to wubi. I think I'll try Ubuntu out that way first. Thanks again!
[23:31] <Swish> looks like he was insulted after all, ah well.
[23:31] <rgb> crimsun: Closed it when you said it.
[23:31] <zyrorl_> whats a web browser?
[23:31] <koolranch> I'm stuck at any step involving a command line that begins with echo
[23:31] <superraton> I have a Boradcom 4303 rev 02
[23:31] <koolranch> once I input the command, nothing happens
[23:31] <raavi> ASULutzy: How did you find the boundaries of the memory?
[23:31] <koolranch> and I'm not sure if that's right or not
[23:31] <koolranch> for example, here's one line "echo 5 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode"
[23:31] <superraton> how can I go wireless
[23:31] <unop> Fank, yea, it's a great way to try/test it out, and you don't end up doing potentially dangerous things
[23:31] <zyrorl_> superraton:  you need a wireless card
[23:31] <koolranch> that's supposed to allow the disk to regroup writes, or something like that
[23:31] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, dude opening vlc is sure taking ages :S
[23:31] <crimsun> rgb: do you still have the desktop cd handy?  if so, can you reproduce it from a fresh boot using it?
[23:32] <zyrorl_> and tehn you need a wireless accesspoint that you can connect to.
[23:32] <rgb> crimsun: I have the desk-song continues-
[23:32] <Swish> ASULutzy, did the script work for you?
[23:32] <ASULutzy> raavi: Oh geeze, was just about to leave to go home from work. I don't know that I had a really good process, I hard locked my system a few times... I think I basically took the output of what cat /proc/mtrr said and just tweaked it a little... And I did lots of googling
[23:32] <rgb> crimsun: I have the desktop CD yes.  Used it to reinstall Ubuntu earlier this evening.
[23:32] <superraton> I have a wireless card
[23:32] <superraton> broadcom 4303
[23:32] <ASULutzy> Swish: Still running it, the analyze feature works great though
[23:32] <unop> koolranch, ok, well, i'd say try it out - is there something stopping you from completing that step/
[23:32] <unop> ?
[23:32] <zyrorl_> well if your drivers are installed
[23:32] <superraton> but I cant go wirelesss?
[23:32] <Swish> cool :)
[23:32] <superraton> no
[23:32] <zyrorl_> you should be able to connect using network-manager
[23:32] <raavi> ASULutzy: Yes, I am trying to understand that who has programmed for drivers is little bit intelligent, since he read it the bios for any allocations...
[23:33] <raavi> ASULutzy: Have a nice day then.
[23:33] <tennispolska> how do i connect to a network using ubuntu, i can with vista without problem???
[23:33] <Shiba> how do I enable / disable startup scripts?
[23:33] <crimsun> rgb: ok, please boot from the desktop cd, install audacious and whatnot, and attempt to reproduce the issue running directly from the live cd
[23:33] <superraton> I already tried
[23:33] <koolranch> unop:  Nothing stops me from entering in the command line, but nothing happens afterward
[23:33] <superraton> no success
[23:33] <rgb> crimsun: And it's cut at 1:50 again.
[23:33] <unop> !boot
[23:33] <koolranch> and I wasn't sure if that's typical for a echo command
[23:33] <monostone> Shiba: init.d scripts?
[23:33] <unop> Shiba, see what ubottu just said
[23:33] <Shiba> monostone: yes
[23:33] <ASULutzy> raavi: I'll be in here tomorrow from 8 to 5 central like always, basically I just googled fglrx and mtrr a lot, or fglrx and 4 GB ram... Hopefully my forum post will be helpful, feel free to send me a forum email and I'll help as best I can
[23:33] <rgb> Okay crimsun, will do.  Any other information I should know/write down?
[23:33] <Shujah> people check out some Ubuntu *maybe* mascots > http://beranger.org/index.php?article=697&page=3k
[23:33] <ASULutzy> raavi: Just don't get discouraged, at least now you know what the problem is!
[23:34] <rgb> crimsun: And song continues :)
[23:34] <tennispolska> how do i connect to a network using ubuntu, i can with vista without problem???
[23:34] <monostone> Shiba: update-rc.d [script] remove
[23:34] <unop> koolranch, that echo command just created a new file and placed 5 in it .. you might have to restart something for noticeable effects to take place
[23:34] <monostone> Shiba: that will remove all rc scripts see man update-rc.d for details
[23:34] <raavi> ASULutzy: So that why we need open source, since hiding details of the driver is driving nuts...
[23:34] <rgb> crimsun:  And cut, this was short at 2:11, Either way, so boot from Live CD, install Audacious and Irssi and report back?
[23:34] <raavi> ASULutzy: that is*
[23:34] <Joelito> can file-roller compress and decompress cab files?
[23:34] <crimsun> rgb: yes, please, thanks.
[23:35] <rgb> crimsun: Okay, I'll be back in a few minutes.
[23:35] <koolranch> unop: what do you mean by
[23:35] <koolranch> "place 5 in it"
[23:35] <ASULutzy> raavi: The radeon drivers have come a long way from what I hear?
[23:35] <monostone> Shiba: if the script still lives in /etc/init.d you will be issued a warning
[23:35] <le_> Just did upgrade and need to use ndiswrapper, but ndiswrapper -m gives error:
[23:35] <zyrorl_> i hadnt used linux as a desktop for a few years now, and i'm quite surprised as to how much hardware it supports now right off the box, ubuntu seemed to have picked up almost all of my hardware (sans-finger print scanner, but even that was easily installable)
[23:35] <ASULutzy> raavi: Maybe they're an option now? I'm just too scared to try anything else considering how long it took me to get fglrx working properly ;)
[23:35] <raavi> ASULutzy: I don't blame the author of the driver, he is intelligent...it's me who is greedy to put more RAM then actual spec
[23:36] <le_> Well, wait maybe it worked. I'll see.
[23:36] <le_> exit
[23:36] <unop> koolranch, it printed the chacter 5 - which was redirected into the new file .. so if you cat that file now, you should see that its only contents is one character i.e. 5
[23:36] <ASULutzy> raavi: Yea, hearing from other users, I don't know that it's actually an fglrx problem... It's likely an fglrx + asus ghetto memory remap problem
[23:36] <raavi> ASULutzy: For me two nights, no success...and not I can sleep well.
[23:36] <koolranch> unop: If I entered the command line several times, does that mean it printed 5 each time, so that now I have several 5s?
[23:37] <ASULutzy> raavi: Well, good luck, maybe try the radeon drivers, and again, feel free to send me a forum PM. Swish: This python script works very well, it constantly updates the frags/MB ratio too, so you can see it working... I like it! But yea, I'm leaving too much work today, take care all
[23:37] <Swish> hehe okay, take care ASULutzy :)
[23:37] <raavi> ASULutzy: Yeah...partly the blame must go to ASUS, but I am not sure that other boards have same problem.
[23:37] <Xklark> Hi, I just installed ubuntu server and then "apt-get installed openssh-server" first thing. The only problem is, I can't connect through SSH - it times out. I even did "ssh 127.0.0.1" on the computer itself and it still timed out
[23:37] <unop> koolranch, you'd have only one 5 because of how the way output was redirected into the file.  > creates the file anew
[23:37] <ASULutzy> raavi: Yea, I guess saving the extra few bucks going with the p5k vanilla wasn't too smart for us :P
[23:37] <ForsakenSoul> hey lucas_ and Shujah the vlc problem is solved but my flash still won't run with sound
[23:37] <Xklark> It says its running
[23:38] <koolranch> ah, cool
[23:38] <koolranch> thanks, unop
[23:38] <herrmess> What tool do I need to use to assign a mountpoint to a partition?
[23:38] <unop> !fstab > herrmess
[23:38] <Shujah> it's a flash problem, if you have downloaded flash via ubuntu synaptic/apt try uninstalling it and downloading via firefox, if its the other way around then vice versa :ds
[23:38] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, emmmmmmmmmmm im kinda having the same problem than u.... ill try reinstalling flash non free and see
[23:38] <ForsakenSoul> just found out that skype doesn't have any sound too
[23:38] <dr_Willis> herrmess, one normally edits the fstab to set up perment mountpoints for filesystems. Like the bot message detauls
[23:38] <herrmess> Thanks guys. So it's just editing the file?
[23:39] <herrmess> Ah!
[23:39]  * herrmess blushes. Was ready to fdisk. 
[23:39] <dr_Willis> herrmess,  the fstab file is read at boot time. and mount points are taken from it.  theres other wsya to mount devices also.
[23:39] <dr_Willis> herrmess,  fdisk partitions the disks, that has nothing to do with actually mounting the actual filesystems.
[23:40] <patrick1> hoi, i use ubuntu8.04 and got some problems with my scanner (canon n650u) - it makes weird noise when it starts scanning, but doesnt scan at all - i use xsane
[23:41] <herrmess> Hm. My /etc/fstab has weird entries for the disks. Probably the installer put them there - UUID=yyyyyyyy . I only need the /dev/sda* though. Can I get the UUID somehow?
[23:41] <patrick1> oliver at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/20802 says that i need to downgrade xsane (according to any ubuntu-wiki - he didnt say which) -- how can i downgrad xsane?!
[23:41] <dr_Willis> the uuid is the new way of defining  what disks -
[23:41] <dr_Willis> !uuid | herrmess
[23:41] <eitreach> anyone here familiar with globalmenu?
[23:42] <dr_Willis> herrmess,  if its a internal drive - its best to use the uuids
[23:42] <MethodmanRDM> can anyone point me to a forum for installin XP AFTER ubuntu, thats relevant to Hardy?
[23:42] <herrmess> Great, thanks!
[23:42] <Xklark> Hi, I just installed ubuntu server and then "apt-get installed openssh-server" first thing. The only problem is, I can't connect through SSH - it times out. I even did "ssh 127.0.0.1" on the computer itself and it still timed out. I did "netstat -nlpt | grep :22" and it says its listening. Any ideas?
[23:42] <dr_Willis> MethodmanRDM,   installing is the easy part. then you just have to resore the ubuntu grub bootloader.
[23:42] <ForsakenSoul> Shujah:  would reinstalling restricted extras do ?
[23:43] <eitreach> anyone know how to install packages even though there are package conflicts?
[23:43] <ForsakenSoul> ok does't matter found it
[23:43] <MethodmanRDM> so, do i just partition my drive, install XP, then look up how to restore grub?
[23:43] <ForsakenSoul> Shujah:  should I restart after I reinstall ?
[23:43] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, if you installed flash directly via firefox then uninstall and download it via restricted models non-free is more stable
[23:44] <unop> dr_Willis, UUID work with external drives too, though they are lost if you format the partitions
[23:44] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, no restart firefox only
[23:44] <dr_Willis> ~fixgrub | MethodmanRDM
[23:44] <ForsakenSoul> Shujah:  installed it from synaptic
[23:44] <ForsakenSoul> and just did a reinstall
[23:44] <Shujah> herrmess, sudo blkid <-uiid
[23:44] <motrul> anyone here using the motorola z6m phone with uubntu to tranfer files?
[23:44] <dr_Willis> unop,  yea.  also i think if you just resize them the uuid can change.. :) of course you can manually set uuid's I belive.
[23:44] <majortool> how do i launch compiz-fusion?
[23:44] <MethodmanRDM> k. thanks, ill try it.
[23:44] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, so it's working now or still no sound
[23:44] <dr_Willis> unop,  i tend to mount mine based on Label. :)
[23:44] <ForsakenSoul> no sound
[23:45] <ForsakenSoul> sorry
[23:45] <unop> dr_Willis, resizing shouldn't reset the UUID as you are not recreating the filesystem (at which time UUIDs are written)
[23:45] <eitreach> majortool: hop into System > Settings > Appearance, into Visual Effects and enable them there.
[23:45] <motrul> when  plugin phone i get this in dmesg, but it doesn't tell me where the phones media is mounted
[23:45] <motrul> [161537.859761] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[23:45] <motrul> [161537.936423] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[23:45] <Shujah> open firefox go to thsi location >  about:plugins
[23:45] <Shujah> see if flash is there]
[23:45] <dr_Willis> unop,  ive heard of it happenign. It may depend on if you move/resize them.. I forget the details
[23:45] <Arnold27> only the ubuntu ultimate have the effects?
[23:45] <yojesus> anything fun to do in ubuntu
[23:46] <unop> motrul, insufficient information to know -- please do not paste in here, use a pastebin instead
[23:46] <ForsakenSoul> in the volume control my output devide it HDA Intel(ALSA mixer) if that helps
[23:46] <izmeh> aaargh, I've got my partioned and it shows up on my desktop, but when i read a file (ie video or audio), it locks my system up
[23:46] <ForsakenSoul> ok Shujah just a moment
[23:46] <motrul> need mroe information?
[23:46] <Flare183> clear
[23:46] <Flare183> oops
[23:46] <unop> motrul, yes please
[23:46] <dr_Willis> Arnold27,  huh? Ubuntu Ultimate - is just Ubuntu with a lot of extra packages installed by default i belive.. Ive never noticed it having anything Not in ubuntu.
[23:46] <izmeh> drive partitioned*
[23:46] <motrul> ah, well, that's all from dmesg
[23:46] <motrul> 2 lines
[23:46] <majortool> eitreach, how do i change compiz settings?
[23:46] <Musli> Anyone know why my firefox lags on flash sites but now not lag on the Live CD?
[23:47] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, get thsi file > sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[23:47] <dr_Willis> !ccsm | majortool
[23:47] <motrul> any usb programs to use ?
[23:47] <Shujah> restart firefox see if it works
[23:47] <Flare183> !who | Shujah
[23:47] <unop> motrul, well, it doesn't look like any storage space was found on the USB device which you can use -- try using  fdisk -l  to see if any new devices appear
[23:47] <jil1> can i show you something.. it is about errors i just dont know ubuntu or any else error type is it
[23:47] <eitreach> majortool: install either compizconfig-settings-manager og simple-ccsm.
[23:47] <Shujah> ok u-bot-u my bad :P
[23:47] <nopcode> hey
[23:48] <lenswipe> :)trying to add a start-here.png button to my taskbar
[23:48] <nopcode> the ubuntu installer always takes ages till it starts right?
[23:48] <motrul> hmm, maybe ubuntu won't see the phone, only the microsd disk....my buddy had the samse phoen and i got it to work, but, he had a memory card in it.
[23:48] <lenswipe> but it wont work
[23:48] <lenswipe> anyonehave any ideas?
[23:48] <jil1> [KCrash handler]
[23:48] <jil1> #6  0xb7ec3560 in KParts::ReadWritePart::slotUploadFinished ()
[23:48] <jil1>    from /usr/lib/libkparts.so.2
[23:48] <jil1> #7  0xb7ec4562 in KParts::ReadWritePart::qt_invoke ()
[23:48] <jil1>    from /usr/lib/libkparts.so.2
[23:48] <jil1> #8  0xb664ecfb in KInterfaceDesigner::Designer::qt_invoke ()
[23:48] <FloodBot3> jil1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:48] <lenswipe> when i try and find the directory with my icon theme in it doesnt work
[23:48] <ForsakenSoul> Shujah:  doesn't
[23:48] <lenswipe> does anyone know whats wrong?
[23:48] <ForsakenSoul> and btw I can't find where locations are ?
[23:48] <unop> motrul, maybe you need to set the phone up in data-access or pc mode - for ubuntu to be able to read the SD card
[23:48] <ForsakenSoul> in firefox
[23:48] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, open syanptic search for flash how many enteries do you see there
[23:49] <rgb> crimsun: Okay, currently on the live CD.
[23:49] <lenswipe> is anyone going to listen to me?
[23:49] <SealedWithAKiss> Sorry to go off topic but, I have commit to buy an item on Ebay. I have since realised that the sellers feedback is VERY poor. Is there any way that I can withdraw my commitment to buy the item? If I pay I fear the item will not be sent, and if I don't the seller will leave negative feedback saying that I haven't paid. Ruining my 100% positive. Any help? I'm really stuck.
[23:49] <ForsakenSoul> I saw 2 one for flash non-free and one for restricted extras
[23:49] <jil1> what do you think?
[23:49] <rgb> crimsun: And currently playing the same song.
[23:49] <Flare183> jil1: What was up the paste?
[23:49] <Musli> Hate this firefox flash lag :( makes me wanna reinstall windows xp :S
[23:49] <ra21vi> when we run a script with sudo, $USER will contain the root, and UID = 0, is there anyway to know the real username which invoked the sudo ./script.sh
[23:49] <lenswipe> SealedWithAKiss: If he doesnt send the item, just contact e-bay...
[23:49] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, complete remove both
[23:50] <crimsun> rgb: ok, let me know if the symptom is reproducible.
[23:50] <ForsakenSoul> ohh and the lib you said I should install
[23:50] <jil1> maybe it is (was) too big?
[23:50] <ForsakenSoul> should I remove that too
[23:50] <ForsakenSoul> ?
[23:50] <lenswipe> does anyone feel like helping me, or dont i exist?
[23:50] <monostone> Im trying to burn a DVD using k9 copy and i got this error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26546/     What can that be due to?
[23:50] <jil1> [KCrash handler]
[23:50] <jil1> #6  0xb7ec3560 in KParts::ReadWritePart::slotUploadFinished ()
[23:50] <jil1>    from /usr/lib/libkparts.so.2
[23:50] <jil1> #7  0xb7ec4562 in KParts::ReadWritePart::qt_invoke ()
[23:50] <jil1>    from /usr/lib/libkparts.so.2
[23:50] <jil1> #8  0xb664ecfb in KInterfaceDesigner::Designer::qt_invoke ()
[23:50] <FloodBot3> jil1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <jil1>    from /usr/lib/libkinterfacedesigner.so.0
[23:50] <lenswipe> ANYONE?
[23:50] <monostone> Im trying to burn a DVD using k9 copy and i got this error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26546/     What can that be due to?
[23:50] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, install the lib afterwards first remove both flash
[23:50] <unop> jil1, stop pasting in here please
[23:50] <Arnold27> what browser is more better firefox or opera?
[23:50] <izmeh> any reason why reading a file on a mounted partition would cause ubuntu to lock up?
[23:50] <jil1> where i should go?
[23:50] <rgb> crimsun: 1:18.
[23:50] <Myrtti> !pastebin | jil1
[23:50] <ForsakenSoul> ok so now I reinstall them right ?
[23:50] <unop> jil1, use a pastebin and be patiet too
[23:51] <Shujah> I like opera better but havent really used firefox 3 that much so my answer is biased :P
[23:51] <lenswipe> I cant get ubuntu to let me choose a start-here.png icon, can anyone help?
[23:51] <ForsakenSoul> Arnold27:  I think Firefox3 is faster then Opera now ...
[23:51] <ra21vi> Arnold27: i think you will like IE 6 or 7, go for it buddy
[23:51] <SealedWithAKiss> lenswipe,  it's 300 Pounds. He has a history of not sending items, not responding  to emails and not settling disputes.
[23:51] <crimsun> rgb: is the desktop cd you're using 8.04 or 8.04.1?
[23:51] <ForsakenSoul> Shujah:  so now I install them again right ?
[23:51] <lenswipe> SealedWithAKiss: One word then, Solicitor....
[23:51] <XtremAl_Raven> Got a problem with wifi. I have a "PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection". I managed to get it visible in iwconfig list. But it can't connect to other wireless networks. Any attempts to connect via wireless causing wired connection to fail with no ability to get it (wired connecting) working again.
[23:51] <lenswipe> ﻿﻿I cant get ubuntu to let me choose a start-here.png icon, can anyone help?
[23:51] <rgb> crimsun: No idea.
[23:51] <ForsakenSoul> or I restart the pc
[23:51] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, install flash non free
[23:52] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, did it work?
[23:52] <le_> Not real up on Gnome, where is Trash  ?
[23:52] <ra21vi> Arnold27: there is nothing better than Firefox, I have used many others, Opera too, but firefox is firefox
[23:52] <lenswipe> SealedWithAKiss: Have you done it thru paypal?
[23:52] <ra21vi> when we run a script with sudo, $USER will contain the root, and UID = 0, is there anyway to know the real username which invoked the sudo ./script.sh
[23:52] <SealedWithAKiss> lenswipe, he's in Hong Kong. And i'm 17 yrs old. I don't have a Solicitor.
[23:52] <unop> ra21vi, prevent the script from being run as root by checking $UID ... then you have a chance of examining the $USER variable - if you need root access in the script, use sudo on those specific commands only
[23:52] <le_> Cannot delet certain files from trash, says permission denied.
[23:52] <crimsun> rgb: lsb_release -r
[23:52] <__yy> How do I get a gnome session over vnc? I just get a raw X display when I connect.
[23:52] <lenswipe> SealedWithAKiss: did u pay by credit card?
[23:52] <le_> Any help would be most appreciated.
[23:52] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, hey I restarted gnome after reinstalling alsa and all works ok... try ctrl alt backspace
[23:52] <Shujah> ForsakenSoul, once flash non free is installed > sudo apt-get install libflashsupport >> then restart firefox
[23:52] <Musli> can anyone help me with firefox?
[23:52] <crimsun> rgb: sorry, lsb_release -d
[23:52] <le_> How to find Trash folder from CLI?
[23:52] <rgb> crimsun: 8.04
[23:53] <SealedWithAKiss> lenswipe,  yes. I haven't actually paid yet. Would Paypal refund?
[23:53] <rgb> Oh.
[23:53] <lenswipe> SealedWithAKiss: If so you can just cancel the transaction
[23:53] <rgb> crimsun: Same.
[23:53] <lucas_> Shujah, changes wont be able if ForsakenSoul doesnt restart gnome
[23:53] <unop> le_, ls ~/.local/share/Trash
[23:53] <ForsakenSoul> nope
[23:53] <crimsun> rgb: ok, then it's definitely not a software regression
[23:53] <ra21vi> unop: actually the script is fully silent, and no user interaction... just the initial run will be launched by user with sudo
[23:53] <Shujah> lucas_, alsa might require restart but flash does'nt
[23:53] <lenswipe> SealedWithAKiss: If he doesnt send the item, you can calcel the transaction from ur credit card within 2 weeks of making any payment..
[23:53] <rgb> crimsun: Aye.
[23:53] <lenswipe> SealedWithAKiss; That Help?
[23:53] <ForsakenSoul> lucas_:  you are saying I should restart gnome
[23:53] <ForsakenSoul> ?
[23:53] <crimsun> rgb: check `dmesg' for any unusual output.
[23:53] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, reinstall flashnon free... and restart gnome......... ITS WORKING FOR ME RIGHT NOW
[23:53] <lenswipe> ﻿﻿I cant get ubuntu to let me choose a start-here.png icon, can anyone help?
[23:54] <lenswipe> ﻿﻿I cant get ubuntu to let me choose a start-here.png icon, can anyone help?
[23:54] <ra21vi> unop: and it is required that it should read ${USER}_cib.properties file ... so how can i get that username
[23:54] <unop> ra21vi, well, the user has to type the password anyway -- why not let him do that after you have finished your checks :) rather than before it
[23:54] <rgb> crimsun: Define unusual output please.
[23:54] <lenswipe> ﻿﻿I cant get ubuntu to let me choose a start-here.png icon, can anyone help?
[23:54] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, just close session and login again
[23:54] <lenswipe> ﻿﻿I cant get ubuntu to let me choose a start-here.png icon, can anyone help?
[23:54] <crimsun> rgb: anything along the lines of "codec timed out", etc.
[23:54] <ForsakenSoul> ok
[23:54] <ForsakenSoul> brb
[23:54] <lenswipe> ﻿﻿I cant get ubuntu to let me choose a start-here.png icon, can anyone help?
[23:54] <unop> ra21vi, let me show you an example .. hold on
[23:54] <lenswipe> ﻿﻿I cant get ubuntu to let me choose a start-here.png icon, can anyone help?
[23:54] <crimsun> rgb: it would appear via `dmesg|tail'
[23:54] <lenswipe> ﻿﻿I cant get ubuntu to let me choose a start-here.png icon, can anyone help?
[23:54] <SealedWithAKiss> lenswipe,  I have to pay first, though.
[23:54] <ra21vi> unop: yes, but you know, when there is work from client, and there is another guy who just want something wthout knowing the complexity, it becomes burden at other side
[23:54] <Shujah> lenswipe, what start-here.png? are you trying to modify the main menu button ?
[23:54] <Arnold27> there was any way to download firefox Torrentz?
[23:55] <lenswipe> Shujah: yes
[23:55] <XtremAl_Raven> Got a problem with wifi. I have a "PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection". I managed to get it visible in iwconfig list. But it can't connect to other wireless networks.
[23:55] <lenswipe> SealedWithAKiss: Talk to me in private message
[23:55] <XtremAl_Raven> Any attempts to connect via wireless causing wired connection to fail with no ability to get it (wired connecting) working again.
[23:55] <monostone> I need pointers where to get info regarding these error messages i got trying to burn a DVD using k9 copy and i got this error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26546/
[23:55] <rgb> crimsun: Nothing on the keyword 'codec'.
[23:55] <lenswipe> Shujah: yes
[23:55] <ra21vi> my client has a guy, who thinks of such things a lot, and makes our life miserable
[23:55] <lenswipe> SealedWithAKiss: Talk to me with personal message
[23:55] <Shujah> lenswipe, it's done through icon themes
[23:55] <lenswipe> Shujah: How???
[23:56] <xbj9000> running Icebuntu now on 300mhz @ 92mb
[23:56] <Shujah> lenswipe, what icon theme you have at the moment?
[23:56] <lenswipe> Shujah: just the default
[23:56] <crimsun> rgb: ok, I don't know how much further you want to chase the issue, which appears to be hardware-based.
[23:56] <jil1> why too many programs incorrectly show russian symbols?
[23:56] <ForsakenSoul> ok so now flash works but skype has problems
[23:56] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, so did it work?
[23:56] <rgb> crimsun: Saw that coming.
[23:57] <crimsun> rgb: if you want, you can see if the symptom is tickled with an older kernel, though I think that's fairly unlikely.  Try the 7.10 desktop cd.
[23:57] <lenswipe> Shujah: Human i guess..
[23:57] <rgb> crimsun: Any idea how it's possible?
[23:57] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, hahahaha man whats goin on with ur ubuntu??
[23:57] <rgb> crimsun: I mean, the sound quality is still great.
[23:57] <lenswipe> Shujah: any ideas?
[23:57] <ForsakenSoul> don't know It's been so stable
[23:57] <ForsakenSoul> and suddenly my father sits down
[23:57] <ForsakenSoul> doesn't touch anything except the firefox for a minute
[23:57] <ForsakenSoul> and when I get back
[23:57] <xbj9000> lenswipe I changed mine but I can't remember how
[23:57] <ForsakenSoul> nothing works
[23:57] <herrmess> Hm, I edited /etc/fstab withe the UUID info and now tried 'mount -a' which told me mount: mount point /bigdisk does not exist . Do I need a restart or something?
[23:58] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, family is the only virus for ubuntu sometimes hehe
[23:58] <rgb> crimsun: Don't have a 7.10 lying around iirc.
[23:58] <p2p> hello
[23:58] <rgb> crimsun: Perhaps the Alternative CD, but that isn't a fast/easy solution.
[23:58] <jasperus> Hello
[23:58] <p2p> there is no channel for ubuntu intrepid?
[23:58] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, for any problem u have... simply reinstall it logout login and it should work perfect if it did before---
[23:58] <jasperus> p2p
[23:58] <lenswipe> xbj9000: thats not much help :(
[23:58] <jasperus> #ubuntu+1
[23:58] <jasperus> for that
[23:59] <unop> ra21vi, it's not complex and it is necessary -- there is no way to find out which user invoked a script under sudo , you have two options -- one is http://pastebin.com/d4e9ae9d6   another is to make the script setuid, which involves a bit more know-how
[23:59] <lucas_> ForsakenSoul, best of luck man... gotta go
[23:59] <crimsun> rgb: sure, there are myriad possibilities from dying HD to dying ac'97 codec...
[23:59] <xbj9000> yeah sorry lenswipe, but it means it's possible..  I know I found the solution on the ubuntu forums when I did it
[23:59] <rgb> I doubt it's my HD.
[23:59] <rgb> Seeing as the same problem occurs when the song is on my iPod.
[23:59] <lenswipe> xbj9000: yeh thanks, ill look there