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vorianevening00:56
voriananyone else have keyboard failure in kdm?01:40
Mythor_version? what failure?01:40
vorianmy keyboard works fine w/out X01:40
vorianintrepid01:40
Mythor_works fine here01:41
vorianhmm01:41
vorianthe odd thing is my touchpad works, and trackpoint01:41
vorian(laptop)01:41
Mythor_worked before?01:42
vorianyes01:42
vorianwell, friday night it did01:43
Mythor_sorry, dont have an idea01:44
vorianroger01:44
vorianbrb01:45
nixternalThe following packages have been kept back: libkdcraw-dev libkexiv2-dev01:57
nixternalwhat's the story with that? been a couple of weeks now and I still have that....need to fixy fixy01:57
Hobbseeinstall them manually02:39
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papabeanWill there be another KubuntuTutorialsDay?03:01
kduserpapabean: Ah Yeah I think so03:12
emma:)05:06
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supert0neskubuntuTutorialsDay must inclue plasma06:54
kduserfor?06:57
Tm_Tryanakca: you're the man I should poke if new kubuntu.org doesn't render perfectly in Konqueror?07:24
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davmor2Riddelll: Why the big window around the install icon on intrepid?10:15
davmor2Riddelll: The install button doesn't seem to do anything either10:21
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alleeHow do others debug/explore pykde4/qt4 scripts?  It would help a bit if at least app.exec_() could be convinced to do it's work in bg and immediately return and give a python prompt when python -i debugme.py is used11:36
Riddellldavmor2: that'll just be plasma doing its thing11:55
Riddelllallee: well it's a main loop, wouldn't be much use if it returned11:55
Riddelllyou can use kApplication.processEvents()11:55
davmor2Riddelll: But still why so big it takes up a third of the screen for 2 icons12:04
RiddelllI've not looked at it, but 1/3rd of the screen is 2/3rds less than most icon views take up on the desktop12:08
nixternalRiddelll: I never got that email from ya, so I am guessing you didn't need me to help out12:15
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gnomefreakhas anyone done amarok2 for intrepid?12:47
alleeRiddelll: well the mainloop could, poll, wait for readline input too ;)12:47
alleeRiddelll: that how it was done in the perl/tk shell12:48
alleeRiddelll: I'll try processEvents() ...12:49
Nightrosegnomefreak: apachelogger was working on it13:02
Nightroseafaik13:02
gnomefreakNightrose: i know he was working on it for Hardy but libtools(or whatever it was) was too low a version to do it in Hardy at this time it needs 1.513:03
Nightrosek13:04
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apacheloggerOo14:27
apacheloggerok14:27
apacheloggeris just me or is bug 45843 == bug 4584614:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 45843 in kdelibs "Right-click context menu disactivates the very hotkeys (keyboard shortcuts) it shows" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4584314:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 45846 in kdebase "When a menu is opened, KDE & Konqueror shortcuts stop working" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4584614:27
Xand3rhi @ all14:56
jtechidnaapachelogger: I'd say so14:56
Xand3rapachelogger: please look in the querry14:56
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apacheloggerthere is no query14:56
Xand3rapachelogger: never mind14:57
* apachelogger never minds14:57
Xand3r^^14:57
Xand3ri start to hate qt apps14:58
Xand3rsome times they use the colore sheme sometimes not14:58
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alleesed -ie 's/QApplicatin/KApplication/'15:00
* apachelogger blames KDE15:02
Xand3rallee: dont understand waht you mean15:03
Xand3rapachelogger: what has allee said?15:05
alleeXand3r: sorry, this wasn't meant serious:  is qt (app) sucks make ist a kde (app)15:06
JontheEchidnaDon't forget the KCmdLineArgs!15:06
JontheEchidna:P15:06
apachelogger+115:06
alleeJontheEchidna: pimp my qtapp :)15:07
Xand3rallee: do you think it would work?15:07
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JontheEchidnaXand3r: you mean porting the app to KDE?15:07
Xand3rjea15:08
JontheEchidnaThat would probably get it to respect the color scheme15:08
Xand3rhey that i will do later on, thx15:08
Xand3rcya, i am going to do some sports15:09
* freeflying 15:48
JontheEchidnaBug 216408 <-wtf?15:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 216408 in kdebase "KDE splash screen logos after password execute have reverted to text mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21640815:51
freeflyingsorry, type wrong15:56
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: rofl16:36
apacheloggerI think16:37
apacheloggerhis splash is b0rked16:37
apachelogger"there used to be a set of widgets that appeared as the login completed booting showing system tools , internet, multimedia etc."16:37
apacheloggerthat appears to be the normal splash content as represented by the appropriate icons16:37
apacheloggernow there is a small box approximatly 2000%^%2000 pixels that has a line prompt for these actions16:38
apacheloggerthat is the b0rkage16:38
apacheloggerthough I can't really imagine how that would look like16:38
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ask him to provide a photo or something16:38
apacheloggeroh16:38
apacheloggerthinking about it16:38
apacheloggerit might well be that we are facing an broken compability16:39
apacheloggeranyway, I can't imagine how that line prompt looks ;-)16:39
JontheEchidnaah16:40
apacheloggerNightrose: I probably need hardy+ppa4 testers for amarok some time soon16:46
Nightroseai16:46
daskreecHhi manchicken16:49
apacheloggerRiddelll: is someone on 4.0.98 yet?16:49
manchickenhiya16:49
Riddelllapachelogger: nope16:52
yuriywould that be RC?16:53
apacheloggerRiddelll: I could start with kde4libs16:54
apacheloggeryuriy: pretty much so16:56
yuriydo y'all think bug 243683 needs to be fixed in Hardy?17:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 243683 in kde4libs "paste function inserts double text" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24368317:00
Nightroseyuriy: pusling fied it upstream afaik17:02
Nightrose*fixed17:02
yuriyyes, in trunk17:02
Nightrosejep17:02
apacheloggeryuriy: +117:02
Riddelllapachelogger: that would be most excellent.  do you have access to ktown?17:07
apacheloggerRiddelll: ... I used to be the amarok release dude ;-)17:08
apacheloggerkdelibs building17:08
Riddelllnixternal: Ii  dde--mail  butI guess  itwent to your spam folder or something17:16
Riddelllgosh, what happened to that line17:17
nixternalalcohol? :)17:17
nixternalI will check my spam folder17:17
Riddelllnixternal: I did e-mail but I guess it went to your spam folder or something17:17
yuriyapachelogger: to fix this in 4.0.5, do I put hardy-backports in the changelog?17:17
Riddelllnixternal: I don't know what the current state of alpha 2 is, maybe davmor2 knows17:17
apacheloggeryuriy: hardy-proposed17:18
RiddelllI heard they were all horribly oversized17:18
yuriyapachelogger: but this is not for updates, the bug isn't in 4.0.3 iirc17:18
apacheloggerhm17:18
apacheloggerthen, yes hardy-backports17:18
apacheloggerRiddelll: bug 24429317:19
nixternalRiddelll: I have on spam message from you:17:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 244293 in amarok "Apparently no need to ship mp3 installer" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24429317:19
nixternalRiddell to ubuntu-motu-ow.17:19
nixternalshow details Jul 3 (8 days ago)17:19
nixternalReply17:19
nixternalErase all doubts about your masculinity with your brand new pecker17:19
nixternalhttp://www.qualitystand.com/17:19
nixternalhahahahahahahahahahahaha17:19
apacheloggerthere were times kubuntu didn't ship libmad :S17:19
nixternalRiddelll: found it....interesting that I didn't get it at home, but it is in gmail17:20
yuriyRiddelll: or should I put hardy and upload to kubuntu-updates-testing?17:20
yuriyI could also backport the fix to bug 205517 from upstream, but I'm not sure about that one since I haven't run into that problem17:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 205517 in kde4libs "[hardy] Problem launching Kate by choosing a textfile from Dolphin" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20551717:36
yuriyIf the upstream fix included changes to tests, and adding a test, is it OK to not include that if the patch doesn't apply?17:40
apacheloggerNightrose: do we have some testers?17:43
Nightroseapachelogger: i have a list of people for tarball testing17:44
Nightrosea few of them use kubuntu17:44
Nightrosei can mail them17:44
Nightroseor ask in #amarok17:44
Nightrosedepending on how fast you need it17:44
apacheloggerNightrose: you do :P17:45
Nightrosewhich of the two? ;-)17:45
apachelogger*shrug*17:45
apacheloggerboth17:45
apacheloggerNightrose: KDE 4 PPA + deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/apachelogger/ubuntu hardy main17:45
apacheloggerinstall amarok-kde417:45
Nightrosek17:45
Nightrosewhich folder does it use for settings?17:45
Nightrose.kde4?17:45
Riddelllapachelogger: commented on bug 24429317:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 244293 in amarok "Apparently no need to ship mp3 installer" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24429317:46
apacheloggerNightrose: just like the rest of kde4 ppa :P17:46
Nightrosek17:46
Riddelllyuriy: I don't know what the question is but updates go to hardy-proposed17:46
Nightrosejust making sure17:46
apacheloggerRiddelll: thanks17:46
yuriyRiddelll: bug 243683, it's in 4.0.5 but I don't think it's in 4.0.317:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 243683 in kdelibs "paste function inserts double text" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24368317:47
Riddelllyuriy: ah, then not -proposed17:48
yuriyRiddelll: If the upstream fix included changes to tests, and adding a test, is it OK to not include that if the patch doesn't apply?17:49
Riddelllyuriy: yes17:53
* Mez slaps Riddell17:55
Nightroseapachelogger: mail send and asked/added to topic in #amarok17:58
daskreecHhey Mez17:58
Mezhi17:58
daskreecHhow are you?18:01
daskreecHBusy I know :)18:01
Xand3rJontheEchidna: hi , you hade the great idea with porting an qt app to kde, can you help me with taht?18:04
yuriyaw the fix doesn't apply cleanly :(18:05
* yuriy thought that was gonna be easy18:05
daskreecHyuriy: Always think it's going to be ridiculously hard. That way at worst you are satatied and at best very pleasently surprised :)18:06
JontheEchidnaXand3r: Actually it wasn't my idea <.<18:09
Xand3rhmm18:10
Xand3rapachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=screenie-qt done the change please upload it, thx a lot18:10
JontheEchidnaand unless it's written in python I couldn't help anyway18:10
Xand3rwhere could be a problem that the color sheme s not used in qt apps everytime?18:11
apacheloggerXand3r: debhelper (>= 5), libqt4-dev (>=4.4)18:14
Xand3rapachelogger: ?18:15
apacheloggerplease either use (>=1.1) or (>= 1.1)18:15
apacheloggereither whitespace or no whitespace18:15
apachelogger:P18:15
apachelogger*uploading*18:15
Xand3rah ok18:15
Xand3rapachelogger: thx18:15
apacheloggerhum18:20
* apachelogger is top contributor today, this week and this month at 5-a-day18:20
apacheloggerNightrose: any test results yet?18:22
Nightroseapachelogger: Myriam is testing right now and some guy in #amarok18:22
apacheloggercool18:22
klerfaytapachelogger: how do you "forward a bug"? bug 24382018:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 243820 in kde4libs "konqueror crashes while configuring file associations for plain text" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24382018:23
apacheloggerklerfayt: copy the original description and add the launchpad bug URL18:25
apacheloggerthen attach the backtrace18:25
Xand3rapachelogger: what could be the reason that qt apps not use the colorcheme fully?18:28
apacheloggerqt bug18:28
apacheloggerkdelibs bug18:28
Xand3rhmm18:28
Xand3rok, than i have to live wit it18:28
apacheloggerXand3r: what do you define as 'fully' anyway?18:28
Nightroseapachelogger: myriam's error: http://pastebin.com/d7444a66a18:28
Xand3rapachelogger: the text uses the colorsheme the background not18:29
apacheloggeruah18:29
apacheloggerNightrose: you guys should add a note to the cmake output18:29
apachelogger"libplasma not found, going to install necessary plasma files blah blah"18:30
apacheloggerXand3r: sounds funky ;-)18:30
Nightroseapachelogger: k - telling the guys18:30
Xand3rapachelogger: but if i use the standart sheme, everything is fine18:31
klerfaytapachelogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16631518:32
ubottuKDE bug 166315 in general "konqueror crashes while configuring file associations for plain text" [Crash,Unconfirmed]18:32
klerfaytwow. smart bot ;-)18:33
klerfaytXand3r: using kate?18:33
Xand3ryes18:33
klerfaytXand3r: which kde? 3?18:33
Xand3r418:34
Xand3rnightly build18:34
Xand3rhardy18:34
klerfaytXand3r: you probably saved the color scheme setting in kate, that is why it won't use the background of overall kde color scheme18:34
klerfaytXand3r: I could be wrong though ;-) (haven't used kde4 for some days)18:35
Xand3rklerfayt: what do you mean with sved in kate? i changed the settings with in "systemsettings" -> "apperance"18:35
klerfaytXand3r: from my own experience with kde3 - whenever you save whatever settings in kate, the color scheme won't be applied fully next time18:37
apacheloggerklerfayt: thank you very much18:37
klerfaytno problem18:37
apacheloggerNightrose: uploading new package18:38
Nightroseok :)18:38
yuriyapachelogger: oh, is 5-a-day fixed now?18:52
apacheloggeryuriy: fixed?18:52
daskreecHThere are less than 5 bugs to triage?18:53
daskreecH:)18:53
yuriyapachelogger: it wasn't working for me last I tried it, and a couple people in #ubuntu-bugs confirmed it ( Nightrose?)18:54
Nightroseyea18:54
Nightroseb0rked for me18:54
apachelogger*shrug*18:54
Nightrosedoesn't submit18:54
apacheloggerwhat's the error18:55
apachelogger?18:55
apacheloggerNightrose: ~15 minutes until the new package is available18:57
Nightroseok :)18:57
apacheloggerNightrose: available19:25
Nightrosek will tell them19:26
ScottKyuriy: For guidance-power-manager, we need to go through the existing bugs and see which ones still apply to the KDE4 version and then move the bugs there.  Wishlist stuff should just move and stuff that's not SRU worthy should get won'tfixed in kde-guidance.19:27
Nightroseapachelogger: installs fine here now - trying to get a collection now19:36
Nightrosesongs play fine19:36
Xand3rbtw Nightrose my amarok nightlydoesnt creat the collection19:41
Xand3rit scans my data but after nothing hapens19:41
Nightrosedelete your collection.db19:41
Nightrosethere were changes to the db scheme that might screw it up19:41
Xand3rNightrose: found where?19:41
Nightrose~/.amarok-nightly/share/apps/amarok19:42
Xand3rNightrose: thx19:42
Nightroseyw19:42
Xand3rNightrose: when will the lyric widget complete available19:44
Nightrosewhen Liw finishes it ;-)19:44
Nightrosereally I have no idea19:44
Xand3rhmm19:45
yuriyScottK: already working on that for other kde packages, I'll add power manager to the list of bugs for next hug day if we're not done with that by tuesday19:47
ScottKOK.19:48
Nightroseapachelogger: package works fine I'd say19:48
Xand3rScottK: screenie-qt is now ready for backportm could you do this?20:07
ScottKSure.  What's the bug?20:07
Xand3rScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/24495920:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 244959 in hardy-backports "Please backport screenie-qt from Intrepid to hardy" [Undecided,New]20:11
Xand3rthx a lot20:11
Xand3rhi if a package depends on an other package from backports, have i to include the backport to my ppa depends that it works?20:40
Xand3rapachelogger: ^20:41
Xand3rvorian: hi20:43
Nightroseapachelogger: 2 other successful tests20:43
Nightroseworks fine for them20:43
ScottKXand3r: I need a statement in the bug that the new revision builds, installs, and runs on Hardy.20:44
davmor2Riddell: you rang me lord?20:46
Xand3rScottK: i gave the statment20:52
Xand3rScottK: have i to include the backports in my ppa if i want to build something with the backport qt?20:53
ScottKYes.20:53
ScottKXand3r: Approved.  Generally you should set it to confirmed after you test it.20:53
ScottKNot needed in this case though.20:54
* ScottK notes gnomefreak is conviently absent after nixternal complained about is Flash backport.20:55
nixternalScottK: :)21:08
kylepragercan someone help my trouble shoot my Hardy 8.04 install freezing up on me during normal use?21:10
kylepragermy search through system logs hasnt turned up anything21:10
ScottKkyleprager: You probably want #kubuntu for that.21:11
kyleprageri just tried in there but no one responded for about 15 minutes... its pretty dead in there.  just thought i'd check in here too21:11
JontheEchidnaBy the way, good job guys, only 399 bugs left in kdebase!21:18
yuriygj JontheEchidna21:23
yuriybtw, dholbach's harvest is being pretty useful21:23
JontheEchidnayuriy: Plus apachelogger and maybe a few others21:23
yuriygeez though, 399 is still a lot. hope most of those are upstream21:26
JontheEchidnayuriy: That's +wishlists too21:26
JontheEchidnaWhich guidance modules are dying in Intrepid?21:30
yuriypowermanager is in its own package now21:30
ScottKEverything else dies.21:30
yuriyuserconfig i believe is being ported21:30
ScottKOK.  Not that.21:31
ScottKHow about mountconfig?21:31
JontheEchidnamountconfig was what I was wondering about21:31
JontheEchidnaafaik there isn't a kcm module for hard disk management21:31
yuriyuserconfig and mountconfig are supposed to be ported but there isn't anybody doing that according to the wiki21:32
yuriythough I thought someone had volunteered21:32
* JontheEchidna should have checked the todo21:32
yuriydebdiff attached to bug 243683 please test21:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 243683 in kdelibs "paste function inserts double text" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24368321:42
yuriyRiddelll: would bug 241916 go for SRU? there is a patch attached21:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 241916 in kdebase "Kde help index creation fails due to dash incompatability" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24191621:59
Riddelllyuriy: seems a sensible one yes22:01
ScottKnixternal: If you force remove liflashsupport, does the Flash backport magically improve?22:02
nixternalScottK: libflashsupport has been gone22:18
nixternaldoesn't help22:18
ScottKOK.22:19
ScottKUrgh.22:19
ScottKStill no gnomefreak either.22:20
nixternalI am not the only one with this issue, every poor sap that I told to update is hating me right now in this office :)22:20
nixternalsuckahs!22:20
ScottKYou know backports is crack.  Every now and then we need to prove it.22:20
* ScottK is open to suggestions on how to fix it.22:21
nixternalbackports has been good to me, but we backported a package that adobe labs said to not use until it got fixed22:21
nixternalScottK: remove it and wait for the next update if possible22:21
ScottKUrgh.22:22
ScottKRiddelll: Can you do a removal from hardy-backports?22:23
* nixternal gets ready to head home and enjoy the weekend....I am totally free this weekend so if you need some Kubuntu work done, message me or highlight me :P22:24
nixternallater!22:24
ScottKRiddelll: If you get a moment and you can, I'd appreciate removal of the packages that were backported in Bug 23513522:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 235135 in hardy-backports "[MASTER] Please backport flashplugin-nonfree version 10 beta and asound-plugins from Intrepid so we can drop libflashsupport and the crashes it causes" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23513522:25
ryanakcaTm_T: yes, I just got back from a week long vacation, can you poke me on Sunday? I'll be gone again tomorrow :/23:10
vorianhowdy23:12
apacheloggerre23:16
apacheloggerNightrose: I just copied the packages over to the kde4 ppa23:16
Nightrosenice :)23:16
* Nightrose hugs apachelogger and snoozes23:26
Nightrosenini :)23:26
apacheloggernini Nightrose23:26
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: nice flood :S23:26
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: Bug report wise?23:28
apacheloggeraye23:28
JontheEchidna^_^23:28

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