[00:01] <vipex> anyone knoiw how i can install the quake 3 arena demo ? sudo ____?
[00:08] <joakim> sorry, damn i've got a blackout...but how do I get my on-running programs only on the workspace startip menu? dum nut I can't find it just now.....
[00:09] <joakim> btw runnung kubuntu hardy
[00:10] <Chrysalis> whats the name of that launcher thingy 'ctrl+tab' i think? and what package is it part of?
[00:10] <Nyad> Hi. Is there any disadvantage to running ubuntu instead of debian? what difference is there?
[00:11] <Nyad> Chrysalis: not Katapult?
[00:12] <Chrysalis> Nyad: right!
[00:12] <Nyad> alt+space
[00:16] <vipex> omg this is hard...im tryinng install quake 3 arena demo for my brother but it dosnt work
[00:16] <buckethead> Gah. I'm trying to make a right click menu in dolphin. For some reason its not showing up. Did they change the path away from /home/[user]/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/
[00:16] <vipex> i have tryed  everything sudo , adpt mnager..
[00:17] <vipex> any1 know's tht  game  O_o
[00:18] <vipex> is it possible to install on kubuntu:O
[00:26] <jimmy51_home> will a "creative zen stone plus" work well with linux?
[00:26] <jimmy51_home> as in easily mount and drag and drop
[00:41] <powertool08> Does anyone know which config file has info on programs which autostart with kde because they were running in the last saved session?
[00:53] <powertool08> anyone here?
[00:58] <zabbadapp> no idea, but via k-menu -> system settings -> advanced -> session manager you should be able to get rid of any saved session by turning it off
[01:01] <donsdl> I just installed StoreBackup by using Adept.  Shouldn't it show up somewhere under the "K" menu?
[01:04] <powertool08> zabbadapp: I need to disable compiz, when I log in it crashes and restarts X, so I can't go the gui route
[01:13] <F-u-z-z-Y_1> I need to install a software for my printer, I'll download the .tar.bz2 file and extacted it to my desktop, now what?
[01:22] <powertool08> F-u-z-z-Y_1: cd to where you extracted it and type "./configure"
[01:23] <powertool08> F-u-z-z-Y_1: actually do ./configure && make
[01:23] <powertool08> F-u-z-z-Y_1: the && means do not run command make unless command ./configure succeeded without errors
[01:24] <powertool08> F-u-z-z-Y_1: then if both commands finish, sudo make install
[01:25] <F-u-z-z-Y_1> i'm getting bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:25] <powertool08> F-u-z-z-Y_1: are you in the directory you extracted to?
[01:25] <F-u-z-z-Y_1> yeh
[01:25] <powertool08> F-u-z-z-Y_1: what is in that directory?
[01:26] <F-u-z-z-Y_1> folder called cdroot and a file called autorun
[01:27] <F-u-z-z-Y_1> no sorry
[01:27] <F-u-z-z-Y_1> its just a folder called CDroot
[01:27] <powertool08> F-u-z-z-Y_1: are they're any sh files? they might be hidden
[01:27] <F-u-z-z-Y_1> in that folder there is a folder called Linux and autorun
[01:27] <F-u-z-z-Y_1> inside the linux folder there is an install.sh
[01:28] <powertool08> F-u-z-z-Y_1: ok make sure its executable, if not chmod +x install.sh, then sudo install.sh
[01:29] <F-u-z-z-Y_1> if i run install.sh nothing happens
[01:29] <powertool08> F-u-z-z-Y_1: and it was executable?
[01:30] <F-u-z-z-Y_1> nothing happened. I just did sudo install.sh and got this... sudo: install.sh: command not found
[01:31] <powertool08> hmm
[01:33] <powertool08> powertool08: I don't know, you can try asking in #ubuntu, or #bash
[01:42] <codyt07> Hello, some how I managed on my KDE bar at the bottom I moved all the icons that where on the right to right beside the "K Start button is' how can I move those icons back to the right where they should be? I cannot see minimalized apps now
[01:43] <codyt07> kde  4 by the way
[01:50] <Rioting_pacifist> !smb
[01:50] <Rioting_pacifist> !nfs
[01:51] <Rioting_pacifist> !samba
[01:54] <BluesKaj> howdy
[01:57] <dr_Willis> hmmm
[01:58] <kalel> ciao
[01:58] <kalel> ci sono italiani?
[01:58] <kalel> dr_willis
[01:59] <dr_Willis> No Hoblo. :)
[01:59] <dr_Willis> heh heh.
[01:59] <dr_Willis> !it
[01:59] <kalel> thanks
[01:59] <kalel> i try to speak english
[02:00] <kalel> where are you from dr_Willis?
[02:00] <dr_Willis> I am in Indiana.
[02:01] <kalel> indiana??
[02:01] <kalel> what is?
[02:01] <BluesKaj> heh
[02:01] <kalel> What is Indiana?
[02:01] <dr_Willis> Its where i am from. :)
[02:01] <kalel> mmm
[02:01] <BluesKaj> a state in the USA , kalel
[02:01] <dr_Willis> South of Lake Michigan. North from  Tenessee
[02:02] <dr_Willis> :()
[02:02] <kalel> Wow
[02:02] <BluesKaj> amercans are self geographically centric
[02:02] <kalel> i speak with americans
[02:02] <kalel> i'm italian
[02:02] <BluesKaj> everybody knows where indiana is
[02:03] <dr_Willis> Indianapolis 500 :)
[02:03] <kalel> sorry
[02:03] <dr_Willis> He dident ask where.. he asked what. :P
[02:03] <kalel> i'm italian
[02:03] <BluesKaj> hehe
[02:03] <kalel> i love america
[02:04] <dr_Willis> So does my French Brother In law. :) he hates to even go back to france.
[02:04] <kalel> good
[02:04] <kalel> è stato bello parlare con voi. ora vado a dormire
[02:05] <atari2600a> eyy
[02:05] <kalel> translation: i go to bed
[02:06] <kalel> good night
[02:06] <BluesKaj> response ,: good night
[02:06] <atari2600a> trying to get kubuntu-desktop installed & instead of installing all dependancies, it gives me an error message saying it needs dependencies that aren't going to be installed?
[02:06] <atari2600a> oh using apt-get BTW
[02:06] <BluesKaj> !dependency hell
[02:06] <BluesKaj> bummer
[02:07] <atari2600a> I mean I can fuffill the dependancies myself but something tells me something's wrong with the package itself or something
[02:07] <BluesKaj> atari2600a:  you could use synaptic to fix broken packages ..it might work
[02:07] <dr_Willis> atari2600a,  have you 'apt-get update'  recently? try updating, upgrading, then try installing.
[02:07] <atari2600a> I already tried sudo apt-get check & sudo apt-get -f, both didn't do anything
[02:08] <atari2600a> ooh, update, I didn't do that today
[02:08] <dr_Willis> :)
[02:08]  * atari2600a updates the lists :P
[02:08] <dr_Willis> when in doubt.. always update,
[02:08] <juan> Hola
[02:08] <atari2600a> hey what KDE comes default in kubuntu-desktop?
[02:08] <dr_Willis> kde3 at this time
[02:08] <Dragnslcr> Should be 3.5.9
[02:09] <atari2600a> eww
[02:09] <dr_Willis> kde4 is available on the remix cd , or installablable.. so phhht to your ewww.
[02:09] <atari2600a> any way I can easily get KDE 4 on thar?
[02:09] <dr_Willis> !kde4
[02:09] <Dragnslcr> Sure, you can install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[02:10] <atari2600a> Dragnslcr: thanks
[02:11] <atari2600a> I'm also doing that one script thing where .desktop's are left in gnome & .lnk's are left in KDE :P
[02:11] <BluesKaj> I reverted to gutsy ...the last hardy/kernel upgrade crapped out my setup badly
[02:11] <atari2600a> err
[02:11] <atari2600a> whatever desktop naming KDE uses
[02:11] <atari2600a> isn't it lnk?
[02:12] <Guest5391> HI'! somebody can help me?
[02:12] <dr_Willis> !ask
[02:13] <Guest5391> i need to install some codecs, but i don't know how :S
[02:13] <dr_Willis> !w32
[02:13] <Guest5391> it's my first time in kubuntu
[02:13] <dr_Willis> !w32codecs
[02:13] <dr_Willis> Guest5391,  for what task? the w32codecs pack from medibuntu is normally needed to play most videos.
[02:13] <dr_Willis> the kubuntu-restricted-extras package. installs some often-needed stuff as well.
[02:14] <Guest5391> ok, i just have to download it?
[02:15] <dr_Willis> for w32codecs you will want to enable the medibuntu repository, and use the package manager to install it.
[02:15] <Guest5391>  !w32codecs -> where do i have to put it?, sorry, i don't know :S
[02:15] <dr_Willis> you do not normally 'just download' things. :) you use the package manager to install the proper packages. In this case the package names are 'w32codecs' and 'kubuntu-restricted-extras'
[02:15] <dr_Willis> !bot | Guest5391
[02:15] <dr_Willis> ! commands are for the bot. :) to make the bot spit out specific factoids
[02:16] <dr_Willis> ! is Not a command for you. :) tis a command for the bot.
[02:18] <TEA-TOO> !root
[02:21] <adrian_> hola
[02:29] <Rozen> Hey guys, I need some help, When ever i try to install Kubuntu When it reaches 87% My computer just turns it self off. :/
[02:30] <Rozen> I think it has to do with the BIOS but i have no clue how to do it. I think it has to do with my the Temp of my computer but i don't know how to cool it down.
[02:31] <lampe> press esc
[02:32] <lampe> and tell us what he is doing
[02:34] <dr_Willis> Rozen,  Hmm... weirdness.. You may want to open up the case and give it a good dusting and check that all the fans are working.
[02:37] <Rozen> mm, All righty
[02:37] <Rozen> If it doesn't work, I'll be back :P
[02:39] <orvv_> hi I am on gutsy how should upgrade to hardy?
[02:40] <dr_Willis> !upgade
[02:40] <dr_Willis> !upgrade
[02:40] <dr_Willis> :)
[02:41] <lampe> how can i change from gnome to kde ?
[02:42] <orvv_> is there a straight kde4 upgrade?
[02:42] <dr_Willis> lampe,  you can insatll both kde and gnome, and select what one to use from the gdm/kdm login screen sessions menu.
[02:43] <Schuenemann> lampe, install kubuntu-desktop
[02:43] <lampe> but i am runing now ubuntu
[02:43] <Schuenemann> lampe, that is a package
[02:43] <Schuenemann> !info kubuntu-desktop
[02:44] <lampe> installing KDE4
[02:45] <orvv_> what about kde4? is it possible a clean kde4 upgrade?
[02:45] <lampe> we will see ^
[02:45] <lampe> its downloading
[02:45] <lampe> and i hope it will work for me
[02:46] <orvv_> lampe: which one are u doing?
[02:46] <lampe> KDE4
[02:47] <lampe> i installed ubuntu and add software i searched for kde4
[02:47] <lampe> ^
[02:47] <orvv_> which command are u using?
[02:47] <lampe> no command
[02:47] <orvv_> o.O
[02:47] <orvv_> magically?
[02:47] <lampe> i got UBUNTU with GNOME
[02:48] <lampe> there is a programm called add/delet
[02:48] <lampe> and there i can search for KDE and press install and he do :P
[02:48] <lampe> so now must restart see yaa :D
[02:49] <TEA-TOO> restart in linux?
[02:50] <orvv_> I am using apt-get, I got rid off all kde related packages and x11 as well as non-system packages
[02:51] <orvv_> so now from a fresh cd install I only have 75 upgrades
[02:52] <orvv_> many related to avahi, I wonder whether it is safe to remove avahi
[02:52] <orvv_> can somenone tell me if I can remove avahi stuff?
[02:53] <orvv_> I still got to cancel the upgrade
[02:53] <orvv_> *time
[02:54] <dr_Willis> I would just let the system update and upgrade....
[02:54] <lampe> did not work ...
[02:54] <lampe> it loaded the login screen
[02:54] <dr_Willis> lampe,  it pays to be verbose and concise as to what your exact problem is. :)
[02:54] <lampe> but then it loaded gnome not kde
[02:54] <dr_Willis> lampe,  and did you select kde from the sessions menu?
[02:55] <lampe> i want to install KDE on a Ubuntu
[02:55] <lampe> there where no selecttion
[02:55] <lampe> selection
[02:55] <dr_Willis> lampe,  you normally install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package. and the gdm screen has a 'sessions' menu item you use to select what desktop to use when you login
[02:55] <lampe> wait
[02:56] <lampe> i will look
[02:57]  * dr_Willis waits and waits.. and thinks about changeing his nick  to confuse lampe.
[02:58] <lampe> ahhhhha
[02:58] <lampe> there is the session menu
[02:58] <lampe> :D
[02:58] <lampe> now iam runing kde4
[02:58] <lampe> ^
[02:58] <lampe> thx
[02:58] <Guest85270> hey
[03:00] <dr_Willis> hmm
[03:03] <orvv_> is it possible to use a more specific kernel other than generic? for a p4
[03:04] <dr_Willis> I doubt if there is one more optmized for it.
[03:05] <orvv_> I think having seen i686
[03:05] <dr_Willis> Install it and see if you can tell the differance then i guess.
[03:05] <orvv_> would I have to change the profile or somthing?
[03:06] <dr_Willis> profile? Hmm.. it should just a new entry to the grub menus
[03:06] <dr_Willis> not sure whatyou mean by profile
[03:06] <orvv_> arch profile
[03:14] <lampe> iam back :D
[03:14] <lampe> now iam runing xfce
[03:15] <lampe> hello ?
[03:23] <bibstha> hi my harddisk makes certain sound
[03:23] <bibstha> at random interval
[03:23] <bibstha> im worried
[03:23] <bibstha> its a laptop i just iayyesterdnstalled kubuntu
[03:24] <zabbadapp> is it spinning down and up again?
[03:24] <bibstha> well its not the sound of spin
[03:24] <bibstha> imo
[03:25] <zabbadapp> what did it run before? did it make noise then? or is it a brand new laptop?
[03:25] <bibstha> its a brand new
[03:25] <bibstha> without any os,
[03:26] <bibstha> just installed kubuntu
[03:26] <BluesKaj> yeah, just replaced wife's hdd , was grinding so time for a new ..itwas 10 yrsold after all :)
[03:26] <bibstha> well i installed / in the end of the harddisk, does that make any difference?
[03:27] <bibstha> the end portion of hd is supposed to be fast?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> dunno
[03:28] <zabbadapp> i was once told by computer parts reseller that disks can make funny grinding sounds to begin with, because they are calibrating for temperature ... i.e. some feedback loop detects that the head needs adjustments ...
[03:29] <bibstha> humm, been running it for 2hrs now
[03:29] <bibstha> still weird noises
[03:30] <zabbadapp> is it several seconds apart or continous?
[03:32] <bibstha> zabbadapp: ya
[03:34] <zabbadapp> i don't think it's kubuntus fault anyway ... but i know little about laptops ... try asking again (i'm going to bed)
[03:34] <bibstha> zabbadapp: :) thanks
[03:34] <bibstha> some more googling then
[03:37] <daspope> Yawn
[03:37] <daspope> ive been idle for a long time
[03:39] <bibstha> humm
[03:39] <bibstha> sudo hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda
[03:40] <bibstha> should work for sata as well right?
[03:40] <jeisma> im on gnome-look.org and im tryin to download one of the themes under gtk 1.x
[03:40] <jeisma> how do i install it?
[03:40] <jeisma> can i do this on kubuntu?
[03:41] <jeisma> anyone know?
[03:41] <jeisma> and does gtk cover login, splash screen, background, everything?
[03:41] <orvv_> isn't it on the repos?
[03:41] <jeisma> what?
[03:41] <jeisma> what is?
[03:44] <rav> hello. Is there a way to make Firefox the default web browser?
[03:44] <lampe> ?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> rav: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[03:46] <rad_> isnt there a way to see a list of the rooms?
[03:47] <rad_> like mybe joining anougher chatroom
[03:48] <rad_> lol nm ppl
[03:50] <rav> BluesKaj: thanks. also, firefox asked me for the application to open mailto links, should i just use kmail? are there any parameters that need to be passed?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> rav, you may want to set up default browser in system settings/default apps as well
[03:52] <BluesKaj> kmail will, take it's cue from there , so you don't need to config the browser for email links
[03:52] <BluesKaj> kmail is a fime email prog ...I use it and like it
[03:52] <BluesKaj> fine
[03:53] <rav> BluesKaj: i do too, just want mailto links in firefox to open kmail composer windows.
[03:54] <BluesKaj> yes, as long as you have kmail as the default in syatem settings/default apps
[03:54] <yodainakiLt> .
[03:56] <rav> thanks
[03:56] <jason__> hello
[03:58] <bobJR> .
[04:00] <jason__> hello
[04:01] <dthacker> !hello | jason__
[04:02] <jason__> hello to u all
[04:02] <jason__> I'm new to linux. i'm working on networking between Windows XP and Kubuntu. On different PCs of course.
[04:04] <jeisma> how do i install a whole new theme from kde-look.org?
[04:04] <jeisma> i downloaded the tar file, but now what?
[04:04] <dthacker> !themes
[04:04] <dthacker> !changethemes
[04:06] <jeisma> dthacker is there a way to change a theme all together isntead of doing it piece by piece like the website you gave?
[04:06] <jeisma> i just downloaded an entire theme, is there a way to install it all at one time?
[04:07] <K350> I've installed kde-core xorg and kdm on a command-lien system, it works great. It's jus t that it's not in my language. what shall I download to get it in my langauge?
[04:07] <cpage_> !changethemes
[04:07] <sea4ever> What's the name of the package with the C dev files?
[04:08] <sea4ever> I know it's some combination of 'dev' and 'C' or 'C++' or something.
[04:09] <dthacker> jeisma: untar it and look for a README
[04:09] <jason__> untar?
[04:09] <dthacker> !untar
[04:09]  * dthacker hugs ubottu
[04:09] <sea4ever> "tar -x" I think.
[04:10] <jason__> lol
[04:10] <jason__> I'm advanced in The Windows Command Line, but not this... Terminal...
[04:11] <sea4ever> But the terminal is fun,pipes are great.
[04:12] <orvv_> what,s better skype static or the normal one?
[04:12] <jason__> ....
[04:13] <orvv_> from medibuntu
[04:13] <jason__> How can i make kubuntu join a windows network. And ideas?
[04:13] <jason__> Any ideas?
[04:13] <orvv_> easy
[04:14] <jason__> mk...
[04:14] <orvv_> use cifs
[04:15] <jason__> Whats that? A program? a command line? what?
[04:15] <sea4ever> libc6-dev apparently, and build-essential. Is there any way to download these packages manually? Like from another OS?
[04:15] <jason__> yes
[04:15] <orvv_> is openwengo the qt counter part to pidgin?
[04:15] <jason__> i have the two compuers networked via crossover.
[04:16] <jason__> qt
[04:16] <jason__> wait...
[04:16] <orvv_> I think pidgin is coded in mono
[04:16] <jason__> orvv... r u talking to me?
[04:17] <K350> I can onl yselect US-Englisn on my kubuntu..what packages can I download ot get more languages?
[04:17] <orvv_>  to anyone knwoleadgeabale with kubuntu
[04:17] <orvv_> knowledgeable
[04:19] <dthacker> !samba | jason__
[04:19] <orvv_> he left
[04:19] <dthacker> orvv: what are you looking for?
[04:20] <orvv_> by the way a share folder with virtualbox works fine
[04:20] <orvv_> a kde pidgin equivalent
[04:20] <dthacker> I don't think he was ready for that.
[04:21] <dthacker> kopete, kvirc are irc clients that favor kde
[04:21] <orvv_> he was running them in crossover...
[04:21] <orvv_> that massochist
[04:21] <dthacker> yes, he was.  poor sod
[04:21] <orvv_> lol
[04:22] <geek> orvv_: how about kopete?
[04:22] <geek> for the latter
[04:22] <Canageek> Problem: I'm trying to connect to my unencrypted wiresless network, at my computer can see it, and the logs show the computer attempting to connect a bunch of times in a row, but it can't connect. Does anyone have any ideas?
[04:22] <Canageek> You missed Konversation
[04:22] <orvv_> geek: in kde4?
[04:23] <Canageek> No, didn't feel like  living on the edge...
[04:23] <geek> orvv_: i believe there may be a port already
[04:23] <dthacker> Canageek: do the logs have an error message?
[04:23] <geek> Canageek: he said pidgin. pidgin is a multiplatform client ;p
[04:23] <Canageek> oh
[04:23] <Canageek> Lets see
[04:23] <orvv_> since there seems the geeks are back I'll ask this again
[04:24] <jeisma> why is it when i install new theme under theme manager, it does nothing?
[04:24] <jeisma> and i have kth file to install to
[04:24] <jeisma> it adds the theme to the list
[04:24] <jeisma> but it changes nothing
[04:24] <orvv_> is possible to have a kernel that's not generic for a p4 processor?
[04:24] <smitt> help me with kde4, hi
[04:24] <smitt> where shell i go?
[04:25] <dthacker> define "not generic"
[04:25] <orvv_> i686
[04:25] <sea4ever> dthacker: specific.
[04:25]  * dthacker buries sea4ever under a pile of perl books
[04:26] <jeisma> anyone know why nothing changes swhen i install my new theme?
[04:26] <orvv_> the arch
[04:26] <Canageek> Ok, I'm trying to cennet to it now
[04:26] <Canageek> No error msgs
[04:26] <Canageek> just "Jul/10/2008 22:25:28 	Wireless PC connected" and then my MAC adress
[04:27] <dthacker> jeisma: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3093308 may be useful
[04:28] <dthacker> Canageek: is that the router log?
[04:28] <jeisma> dthacker: thanks
[04:28] <Canageek> Yes
[04:28] <Canageek> Oh, and that message is there 7 times
[04:28] <Canageek> with times stamps a few seconds appart
[04:29] <pedro> ola
[04:29] <Canageek> all from my wireless cards mac adress
[04:29] <pedro> tudo?
[04:29] <dthacker> Is your wireless nic set to dhcp or a static address
[04:29] <Canageek> 'ello
[04:29] <Canageek> dhcp
[04:29] <Canageek> I belive
[04:29] <jeisma> dthacker: didn't help
[04:29] <jeisma> how do i figure out what version of kubuntu i have?
[04:29] <dthacker> jeisma: lsb_release -a, I think
[04:30] <jeisma> im on gutsy 7.1... how far behind am i?
[04:30] <dthacker> Canageek, is your wireless card at eth0 or eth1?
[04:30] <geek> one version
[04:31] <geek> current is hardy 8.04
[04:31] <jeisma> how do i upgrade to that version?
[04:31] <jeisma> i did full upgrade in adept
[04:31] <jeisma> it did nothing
[04:32] <Canageek> my wired connection is eth0 so I'm guessing eth1
[04:33] <dthacker> Canageek: please pastebin the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[04:34] <dthacker> !pastebin
[04:34] <ybit> the font in my tty screens is WAY too large, how can i adjust it? also, when booting up, it doesn't show anything, just a blank screen and it takes forever to load as opposed to when i select recovery mode in the grub menu.
[04:35] <ybit> in grub.lst, i've removed quiet, so i don't know why it goes blank when booting up
[04:35] <Canageek> dthacker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26580/
[04:35] <Canageek> ybit: did you also remove splash?
[04:36] <dthacker> Canageek: that's all?
[04:36] <ybit> Canageek: nope
[04:36] <Canageek> yes
[04:36] <Canageek> I just copied cat /etc/network/interfaces into there
[04:36] <ybit> thirdly and probably lastly, i've connected a second standard monitor to this computer, but i can't get it out of clone mode. i selected the dual screen option, rebooted X server and Xserver wouldn't startup, so i rebooted and the same result, it wouldn't boot into anything. finally had to remove the monitor and to get it to boot into kdm
[04:37] <Canageek> I'm using KNetworkManager to connect to my wired network right now
[04:38] <dthacker> Canageek: there are no interfaces defined.  why don't you re-define your wireless, make sure you see it in /etc/network/interfaces, and restart your network?
[04:39] <Canageek> dthacker: I really wish I knew how to do that....
[04:43] <Canageek> Well, I need to sleep now, I'll be back latter
[04:43] <crazy_bus> has anyone here ever compiled koffice on kubuntu?
[04:44] <dthacker> Canageek: !wireless
[04:44] <dthacker> !wireless
[04:44] <Canageek> ah, thank you
[04:44] <dthacker> crazy_bus: nah, I stick to packages
[04:44] <Canageek> I may not be bakc
[04:45] <crazy_bus> it's just that krita-kde is broken and 5 alpha release behind and I'm having difficulty compiling it
[04:45] <dthacker> :(
[04:45] <dthacker> I like krita.   KDE4 or 3?
 how do i tell zip to add everyting in subfolders?
 zip zipname.zip * just gives all files and empty folders
[04:46] <crazy_bus> yes I meant krita-kde4.  I really want to try out the natural color mixing
[04:46] <dthacker> crazy_bus: sorry, still on KDE3.
[04:48] <smitt> KDE4 - is very very very bad now... it is just for siting and looking on it, but if you mouse is moving every secind you take a error
[04:48] <smitt> inaf
[04:48] <kiwis> im having a problem upgrading, when i type sudo apt-get upgrade i get ... E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:48] <kiwis> any help greatly appreciated
[04:50] <dthacker> DarkriftX: zip -r "travels the directory path recursively" from the man page
[04:50] <DarkriftX> ahh
[04:50] <DarkriftX> zip --h and --help gave errors :S
[04:51] <DarkriftX> always forget to man
[04:53] <dthacker> kiwis: take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-606941.html your error may not be serious
[04:56]  * dthacker prepares to wander away in 5 mins
[04:58] <kiwis> dthacker: i tried the code but i dnt get any upgrades and i cant download anything niether
[04:59] <dthacker> hmmmm. what does lsb_release -a say?
[05:00] <atari2600a> well
[05:00] <atari2600a> I'm using KDE4 right now
[05:00] <dthacker> thats a deep subject
[05:00] <atari2600a> & I have to say
[05:00] <atari2600a> it's a very dissappointing experience
[05:01] <atari2600a> then again I've barely touched any config settinggs
[05:02]  * dthacker has to go for now. bbl
[05:11] <mefistofele> kde4 isn't really ready for mass consumption
[05:11] <mefistofele> I say this, of course, while having used it as my primary DE since January
[05:13] <geek> lol
[05:48] <rocko_> ﻿ I have problem with bootup messages not showing up when I change the default vga size in menu.lst which it worked in older kubuntu releases do any of you guys or ladies have an idea of what I need to do to fix this?
[05:54] <ironman_> hi rocko could b more specific ?
[05:55] <rocko_> hello ironman_
[05:56] <ironman_> didmt get the loding mss from kernel?
[05:56] <rocko_> yup
[05:57] <rocko_> the init messages don't come up any more when I change the vga in menu.lst
[05:57] <rocko_> but in older releases and in debian 4 it works
[05:58] <rocko_> the reason why I want to change them is because they are big
[05:58] <ironman_> chk the refresh rate of ur monitor. I don have experienci with debian but in Kubuntu this problem i got when i change the refresh rate
[05:59] <rocko_> what did you change the refresh rate to?
[05:59] <ironman_> when using a generic driver for the monitor
[06:00] <ironman_> to get more pixels
[06:01] <ironman_> sorry im a little sick and i dont think fast
[06:01] <rocko_> thats ok
[06:01] <ironman_> wich release r u working with?
[06:02] <rocko_> 8.0.4.1
[06:02] <ironman_> r ur monitor work with the specific driver?
[06:03] <rocko_> I have had this problem with all the ubuntu based distros since after 7.0.4 release
[06:03] <rocko_> yes my card is supported
[06:03] <ironman_> nop ur monitor
[06:03] <dsmith_> 8.04 locksup after I am away from it for sometime
[06:03] <dsmith_> like if I am in a rdp session when I come back to it say after 20-30 mins
[06:04] <ironman_> monitor model?
[06:04] <dsmith_> me?
[06:04] <rocko_> it's a laptop
[06:05] <ironman_> not an HP?
[06:05] <gkffjcs_> hey guys, is there a way to create extensions for konqueror, and are there extensions out there?
[06:05] <rocko_> it's a generic montior 1280x768
[06:05] <rocko_> it is hp the compaq model
[06:05] <rocko_> compaq presario v2000
[06:07] <ironman_> if u r nor hurry i could have an answer for u tomorrow, iḿ not sure but i got a cliente with this problem nut im not quite sure this moment i could foind out tomorrow with the lab technicians
[06:08] <rocko_> cool
[06:08] <ironman_> we got  some problems with HP screens and web cams
[06:08] <dsmith_> has anyone had issues with kubuntu freezing up on them?
[06:09] <ironman_> u have a dual installation ?
[06:09] <rocko_> me no
[06:09] <rocko_> no windows
[06:09] <ironman_> me no either
[06:09] <dsmith_> ironman yes
[06:09] <dsmith_> kubuntu will hang if I am away from it for sometime
[06:10] <dsmith_> like an RDP session
[06:10] <dsmith_> or screensaver and then come back to it
[06:10] <flaccid> maybe the problem is acpi
[06:10] <dsmith_> the mouse will move but everyting is lagger for like a few mins
[06:10] <dsmith_> then it comes back to lifwe
[06:10] <dsmith_> 8life
[06:10] <flaccid> try to keep response on 1 line please dsmith_
[06:11] <dsmith_> flaccid: I know.. :)
[06:11] <flaccid> you do?
[06:11] <dsmith_> I do it out of habit..
[06:11] <dsmith_> <---- no excuse
[06:11] <flaccid> yeah im the same but im trying to minimise
[06:12] <dsmith_> I'm so use to saying blahh blah, and oh, blah blah..
[06:12] <dsmith_> anyways..
[06:12] <dsmith_> I'm leaning to it being a hardware issue at most
[06:14] <ironman_> kind of machine u have dsmith?
[06:15] <vit> rengo problemas con mi msn
[06:15] <ironman_> hola vit
[06:16] <dsmith_> ironman_: I have HP zd7000 alptop
[06:16] <dsmith_> *laptop
[06:16] <vit> hola
[06:16] <vit> de donde eres iroman
[06:16] <ironman_> dsmoth u have to try a couple of things first
[06:16] <dsmith_> shoot
[06:17] <ironman_> Ecuador vit q problema tienes?
[06:17] <ironman_> disabe all the screensavers
[06:18] <rocko_> gnewsense
[06:18] <vit> cuando entro al amsn y quiero abri la badeja de ni correo
[06:18] <rocko_> free as in freedom
[06:18] <ironman_> dame un min vit
[06:18] <flaccid> !english
[06:18] <ironman_> and also dsmith de battery saver
[06:19] <dsmith_> ok screensaver off
[06:19] <ironman_> so ur lap r going to works always then u try to get again the problem
[06:19] <dsmith_> battery saver, you mean powermanager?
[06:19] <ironman_> yeap
[06:19] <ironman_> disable it
[06:20] <dsmith_> is there a way to remove it?
[06:20] <ironman_> no u dont have to remove just disable
[06:21] <dsmith_> ok I looked in adpet and have ~10 power packages installed
[06:21] <ironman_> u could tis from the BIOS and the start up sequence os via system settings
[06:21] <ironman_> ok via adept unistalled them
[06:22] <ironman_> u could reinstall it later
[06:23] <ironman_> always try to choose just one progrma to be instaled per funtion
[06:23] <dsmith_> acpi?
[06:23] <ironman_> vit solucionaste tu problema?
[06:23] <ironman_> yes dsmith
[06:24] <ironman_> remember dsmith the power manager problems have a low priority in execution
[06:25] <dsmith_> I just removed powertop and it says removing kubuntu-desktop
[06:25] <dsmith_> ok
[06:26] <ironman_> for any OS is a good practice to have the computer our of trsh
[06:26] <dsmith_> !pastebin'
[06:26] <dsmith_> !pastebin
[06:26] <dsmith_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26600/
[06:28] <ironman_> i gotta go c u tomorrow
[06:29] <dsmith_> heh
[06:50] <yao_ziyuan> when trying to dist-upgrade, i ruined my package system
[06:50] <yao_ziyuan> some critical packages are removed
[06:51] <Agent_bob> why did you tell it "Yes; do as I say!"   ???
[06:52] <genii> You could try the old    sudo dpkg --configure -a           to make it finish configuring stuff
[06:52] <ishbale> k wats a good program to extract .img files
[06:53] <Agent_bob> ishbale mount it.
[06:53] <ishbale> k
[06:53] <genii> Agent_bob: Hi BTW :)
[06:54] <Agent_bob> ishbale   sudo mount -o loop file.img /dir   # translate file.img and dir
[06:54] <Agent_bob> genii shalom
[06:54] <rtroiano> anyone here have exp /w getting cedega working properly on kubutu (64bit)?  i cant get it to detect my Nvidia GeForce 7600 drivers
[06:55] <mr---t-> shabat shalom Agent_bob
[06:55] <Agent_bob> Aleichem
[06:55] <genii> rtroiano: They might know more about it in #cedega channel
[06:56] <ishbale> im confused
[06:56] <ishbale> its in my desktop
[06:56] <ishbale> so
[06:57] <ishbale> where would i iclude that i it
[06:57] <ishbale> include
[06:57] <ishbale> in it
[06:57] <ishbale> hmm
[06:58] <Agent_bob> you mean where would you mount it ?     try   mkdir -p ~/disk ;sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/file.img ~/disk
[06:58] <ishbale> k
[06:58] <ishbale> thnx
[06:58] <genii> Agent_bob: Beat me to it. Althugh I had him making the mount folder on desktop
[06:59] <Agent_bob> location is kinda irelivant.
[06:59] <genii> Well, if on desktop then easy tospot :)
[06:59] <genii> ..and mount
[07:00] <Agent_bob> only preferance i know.  but i don't like anything in ~/Desktop
[07:00] <genii> Does get cluttered
[07:03]  * Agent_bob views those icons that are there by default as "grafiti" and removes them.
[07:03] <orvv_> anyone know how to re-build the initr image? it has the wrong resolution settings
[07:03] <Agent_bob> ?
[07:03] <Agent_bob> i don't think so.
[07:04] <Agent_bob> you set size sith  vga=   in grub's  menu.lst
[07:04] <Agent_bob> or if you mean the rez. for xorg, it has nothing to do with either.
[07:06] <Agent_bob> orvv_ but to answer your origenal Q,  mkinitramfs  is the command   man it for the args
[07:06] <genii> You'd also need initramfs-tools
[07:06] <Agent_bob> installed by default ?
[07:07] <genii> Nope
[07:07] <orvv_> Agent_bob: I don't know, neither the framebuffer nor X is showing up
[07:07] <Agent_bob> you have to be able to build an initramfs image, to be able to update the kernel genii
[07:07] <Agent_bob> orvv_ ati chip ?
[07:07] <orvv_> intel
[07:08] <Agent_bob> really?    hmmm
[07:08] <genii> Agent_bob: PErhaps it installs it as a dependency when a kernel update is required. But base install does not put it by default.
[07:09] <Agent_bob> well try this.   set the kernel line in the menu.lst to "nosplash vga=normal"  and try it.
[07:09] <Agent_bob> genii if it's not installed by default, then it's not needed to build an initramfs.img   </shrugs>
[07:10] <orvv_> why not defoptions=vga=791
[07:10] <Agent_bob> cause you have a kernel installed and guess what it did when it unpacked it...  it made an initramfs image for it....
[07:11] <Agent_bob> orvv_ cause you want to be able to see something   :)
[07:11] <orvv_> oh I can by alt f1
[07:12] <Agent_bob> pfft, then what did you mean by "<orvv_> Agent_bob: I don't know, neither the framebuffer nor X is showing up" <<< framebuffer is ?
[07:13] <Agent_bob> maybe the init scripts are resetting to textmode ... but anyway.    if your only problem is xorg (for now)  then fix it.
[07:15] <yao_ziyuan> there are some broken packages in my system. when i try to remove them, they require almost all packages on my systems be removed too (including those critical core packages). i've already let this removal go halfway. how can i restore my system?
[07:16] <Agent_bob> let it finish and install the ubuntu-base package
[07:17] <orvv_> Agent_bob: ok with ur option the framebuffer is ok, but X still blakc
[07:17] <orvv_> brb
[07:18] <Agent_bob> of course xorg is still the same.  it's not affected by anything in the kernel/initramfs boot sequence
[07:18] <Agent_bob> or at least "shouldn't be" affected by them.
[07:19] <Agent_bob> if you had ati chips i would have to correct that...
[07:25] <Agent_bob> genii hardy is not useing the old initrd-tools is it ?
[07:25] <Agent_bob> !info initrd-tools
[07:25] <Agent_bob> ok that answers that
[07:25] <genii> !info initramfs-tools
[07:26] <Agent_bob> is important ^
[07:26] <Agent_bob> means installed by default.
[07:26] <genii> Interesting. I recall having to manually install it for some reason
[07:27] <Agent_bob> genii that was back on breezy maybe ?
[07:27] <genii> Well I have a dapper server could be it was on that
[07:27] <Agent_bob> i think the transition form initrd to initramfs wan in dapper... so if you upgraded to dapper then prolly
[07:27] <Agent_bob> was
[07:28] <genii> I needed a hardware raid driver to be loaded in kernel so had to do it that way
[07:29] <Agent_bob> right.   but could have used the old initrd stuff.  just probably didn't have a good doc for it...
[07:30] <Agent_bob> i think the two can both be installed at one time...  i'll look
[07:30] <Agent_bob> yep you can have both.
[07:31] <Agent_bob> cause i now do..
[07:31] <genii> heh
[07:31] <HPDV2000> Does anyone help me with mounting iso file to linux?
[07:31] <genii> !iso
[07:31] <HPDV2000> However, if the iso image is suppose to be run  by windows os
[07:32] <HPDV2000> would it work properly?
[07:32] <genii> HPDV2000: Linux won't "autorun" a cd for Windows. But you will be able to look at whatever files are on it by the loopmount way the bot describes
[07:33] <Agent_bob> also wine could prolly auto"run" it
[07:33] <HPDV2000> genii,  perfect
[07:33] <HPDV2000> let me try agent bob
[07:33] <Agent_bob> HPDV2000 not that it would help you any.  i was just saying.
[07:35] <HPDV2000> don't need it to auto run
[07:35] <HPDV2000> I have a game iso image
[07:35] <HPDV2000> would like to try to run it on my laptop
[07:36] <jussi01> !appdb
[07:36] <HPDV2000> now, do i need to download any some sort of package for the mounting process or it is embedded in my kubuntu
[07:37] <genii> HPDV2000: Both sudo and mount commands should be available to you.
[07:37] <HPDV2000> so ... what should the mount point be?
[07:38] <HPDV2000> sudo mount -o loop name.iso ( this part )
[07:38] <Agent_bob> loop back device mounting is embeded in the kernel    sort of.    it's a module.
[07:38] <Agent_bob> HPDV2000 where ever you would like to access it.
[07:38] <HPDV2000> give me an example...
[07:38] <HPDV2000> can I put d:
[07:39] <genii> HPDV2000: You create a directory for it to attach to. The directory should be somewhere in your home directory if you want to find it easily in file browser
[07:39] <Agent_bob> but don't mount on something that you need to access already
[07:39] <HPDV2000> give me an example please
[07:39] <Agent_bob> HPDV2000 sure you can.    mkdir -p 'd:'
[07:39] <HPDV2000> If the game requires the cd-rom to be in certain drive
[07:39] <HPDV2000> never mind i'll try that right now :)
[07:40] <Agent_bob> you'll have to remember to quote it.   cause  :  is a command in linux
[07:40] <HPDV2000> yes i did quote it but
[07:40] <HPDV2000> it didn't go through hold on
[07:41] <HPDV2000> ok let me give you my command and please fix it if theres a problem
[07:41] <HPDV2000> sudo mount -o loop sioas.iso mkdir -p 'd:'
[07:41] <genii> Hmm. Where to start
[07:41] <Agent_bob> mkdir -p 'd:' ;sudo mount -o loop blah.iso 'd:'
[07:41] <HPDV2000> oh
[07:41] <HPDV2000> I wish theres a gui version of this.. :S
[07:42] <Agent_bob> could have back tic'd it i guess genii  ;/
[07:42] <genii> Agent_bob: heh
[07:42] <Agent_bob> sudo mount -o loop sioas.iso `mkdir -p 'd:'` 'd:'     :)))
[07:43] <HPDV2000> :) ok let me try that one bob
[07:43] <Agent_bob> confusing as all get out though.
[07:43] <Agent_bob> HPDV2000 it does the same thing
[07:43] <HPDV2000> I can't access the d: drive.. hrm...
[07:44] <HPDV2000> linux is so hard to take a first step.. :S
[07:44] <HPDV2000> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:44] <HPDV2000> i see how it works now!
[07:44] <HPDV2000> it makes a directory itself and than mounts iso right there
[07:44]  * genii watches the light bulb go on
[07:44] <genii> Yup
[07:44] <HPDV2000> perfection!!!
[07:45] <sea4ever> lol,brilliant.
[07:45] <HPDV2000> problem is... the iso is mounted into the folder (sorta like iso unzipping)
[07:45] <HPDV2000> what if I want it to be mounted as a cd-rom like daemon tools\
[07:46] <Agent_bob> HPDV2000 crash course in cli linux.    the  ;  &&  ||  and &   are all command seporators     secondly the back tic's   ``   will execute anything within them before the rest of the line executes, inserting any output from the back tic'd command/s into the command string.
[07:46] <genii> HPDV2000: It didn't actually extract anything, just uses the iso file on the fly
[07:46] <Agent_bob> note that   $()  is prefered over  ``   because of "nesting" issues with ``
[07:47] <HPDV2000> understood
[07:48] <Agent_bob> i tell you that in the hopes that you will be warry of running things with back tic'd or $() commands in them,  specally if you don't understand them and don't know the people you get them from....
[07:48] <HPDV2000> now how would I be able to unmount?
[07:48] <genii> HPDV2000: See http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wineusr-guide/config-wine-main#AEN288 for configuring wine as to what drives it sees
[07:49] <genii> HPDV2000: sudo umount 'd:'
[07:49]  * Agent_bob could own HPDV2000's box right now.   seeing he was wiling to drop anything in a cli 
[07:49] <genii> hehe
[07:49] <HPDV2000> :(
[07:50] <Agent_bob> hey it's just common sense.  if you don't know the person nor the command,  don't run it.    i'm trying to help you see the danger in doing that,  not scare you into thinking i already did something stupid.
[07:51] <HPDV2000> I would sense that
[07:51] <HPDV2000> but since I got a help from you bob b4 with the wireless problem
[07:52] <HPDV2000> rememberrrrr?  :)
[07:52] <Agent_bob> i could have said    echo "what means `sudo rm -r /`"    <<< and if you had executed that, it would have deleted all files on your system...      please don't try it.
[07:53] <HPDV2000> i will try it right now sir
[07:53] <HPDV2000> hehe
[07:53] <Agent_bob> HPDV2000 actually no.   i  see so many new names in here that i don't even try to keep up with whom i have talked to before.
[07:53] <HPDV2000> lol
[07:53] <Agent_bob> for you it's one set of names that helped you.   to us it's thousands of people we helped...
[07:54] <genii> !danger
[07:54] <genii> Just for anyone thinking of eperimenting needlessly
[07:54] <genii> *experimenting
[07:54] <Agent_bob> hehhe  yeah.
[07:54] <HPDV2000> lol
[07:55] <HPDV2000> so there is no easier way to mount iso image to cd-rom (linux)
[07:55] <Tm_T> Agent_bob: you should NOT even mention that thing here
[07:55] <HPDV2000> so that it shows up as CdRom
[07:56] <Agent_bob> genii you know even the fellow that has been using linux long enough to understand both sudo and rm well enough to see the danger in combining them can get fooled into thinking that within an echo quote it would be ok.   and that was my point there really.
[07:56] <genii> HPDV2000: There's no cd/dvd emulator built in to linux like daemon tools if thats what you mean. Although there is something on sourceforge like that
[07:57] <HPDV2000> perrrrrrrrrffecto
[07:57] <Agent_bob> HPDV2000 mkdir -p CdRom ;sudo mount -o loop,umask=000 sioas.iso CdRom
[07:57] <HPDV2000> no thats making a dir named 'cdrom'
[07:57] <Agent_bob> oh wait. i misread you.
[07:58] <Agent_bob> yes you are correct.
[07:58] <HPDV2000> :( i wish that code will do what I actually wanted
[07:58] <Agent_bob> but is what you want, to configure wine to look at the mountpoint as if it was the cdrom device ?
[07:58] <HPDV2000> now what does umask=000 do?
[07:59] <HPDV2000> correct bob
[07:59] <genii> HPDV2000: The wine documentation page I pointed you to... you can set for instance the mounted directory be something like drive_e to it that way
[07:59] <Agent_bob> HPDV2000 that makes it accessable to all users
[07:59] <HPDV2000> yes genil i looked at the page you gave me
[07:59] <HPDV2000> too many infos so must read few more times..
[07:59]  * Agent_bob isn't much of a wine drinker
[08:00] <Agent_bob> s/drinker/user
[08:00] <HPDV2000> lol
[08:01] <Agent_bob> genii am i mistaken or can't that be done with a symlink in ~/.wine/  ???
[08:01] <HPDV2000> why didn't you guys tell me I can configure the cdrom at winecfg... :( ................ (GUI)
[08:01] <Agent_bob> HPDV2000 cause you didn't ask... ?
[08:02] <genii> HPDV2000: You didn't say you wanted wine to see something as a cd
[08:02] <genii> Agent_bob: Yes, thats the general idea, make symlink in there to the dir the iso is mounted to
[08:02] <HPDV2000> ﻿HPDV2000: so there is no easier way to mount iso image to cd-rom (linux)
[08:02] <HPDV2000> ﻿(02:41:50 AM) HPDV2000: oh
[08:02] <HPDV2000> (02:41:53 AM) ubunturos left the room.
[08:02] <HPDV2000> (02:41:57 AM) HPDV2000: I wish theres a gui version of this.. :S
[08:03] <HPDV2000> However, you guys must missed it.. :S
[08:03] <keepout> hello evewhere
[08:03] <HPDV2000> anyways thank you for helping me :) I coudln't of done this without your help
[08:03] <genii> "[02:31] <HPDV2000> Does anyone help me with mounting iso file to linux?"
[08:03] <genii> eg
[08:03] <keepout> hi
[08:04] <Agent_bob> HPDV2000 you can put the instructions for mounting the image in your fstab and have it mounted at boot time,  if that's what you mean?
[08:04] <HPDV2000> no sir
[08:04] <genii> Hello keepout
[08:05]  * Agent_bob writes a script that will do anything.
[08:06] <Agent_bob> echo '"$@"' > my_script.sh
[08:06] <genii> I'd like to see a script like that
[08:06] <Agent_bob>           ^
[08:06] <Agent_bob> :)))
[08:06] <genii> Hmm. Smartass
[08:07]  * Agent_bob stops laughing long enough to breath...   </side hurts>
[08:07] <HPDV2000> wine says 'out of memory' when I run setup.exe...
[08:09] <Agent_bob> !wine
[08:09] <Agent_bob> there is a wine channel here on freenode too
[08:10] <HPDV2000> perfecttttttt is it #wine?
[08:10] <genii> Yes, #winehq
[08:10] <HPDV2000> thank you :)
[08:10] <genii> Although I've found if you're not running latest version they tell you to go install it
[08:10] <HPDV2000> ok
[08:10] <genii> (before they will think about helping)
[08:12] <Agent_bob> should i pastebin my_script.sh  you think ?
[08:13] <genii> I think they post stuff like that on bash.org
[08:14] <Agent_bob> genii actually here's a little script i wrote the other day.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d46c6ebe3   doesn't do everything like the one i just wrote for you... but it gets close.
[08:14]  * genii twitches
[08:15] <Agent_bob> ugly aint it ?
[08:15] <genii> I've seen worse
[08:16] <genii> Pretty large
[08:17] <Agent_bob> yeah.   it's got about half a gig of data files that go with it.
[08:18]  * genii sips his coffee and thinks about theology
[08:19] <Agent_bob> what i actually did there is reinvent the square wheel.
[08:20] <Agent_bob> but it fits well on my modular 28 peace tricycle
[08:20] <genii> You've got me wondering what I did with my old ugly rsync-ing scripts
[08:21] <Agent_bob> you should see the first stab at that monster, back when i was fresh out of "4dos"  ugly is not the word...
[08:21] <genii> Yeah I understand
[08:22] <Agent_bob> heh i actually still have an 0.2 version of it.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d487b55f0    reader beware !
[08:23]  * genii twitches some more
[08:23] <Tm_T> hmm, remember the topic? ;)
[08:24] <Agent_bob> Tm_T topic ???
[08:24] <Agent_bob> oh that....   ;/
[08:24] <genii> Well, it's a bit quiet
[08:25] <Agent_bob> pm @ Tm_T
[08:26]  * genii makes another pot of coffee and waits for support questions
[08:26]  * Agent_bob will get tired of waiting for support and leave in about 5 minutes...
[08:27] <Agent_bob> *questions*  ^
[08:27] <genii> Agent_bob: Ah. I was going to ask what your support problem was ;)
[08:27] <tuxwulf> genii: Nice one in #kubuntu-kde4
[08:27] <genii> tuxwulf: I'm still currently despising kde4
[08:27] <Agent_bob> tuxwulf what is it ?
[08:28] <tuxwulf> "anyone know how to re-build the initr image? it has the wrong resolution settings"
[08:28] <Agent_bob> lol
[08:28] <Agent_bob> we did that already
[08:28] <genii> Deja vu
[08:28] <tuxwulf> genii > I got over my despiseent when I found out I can use KDE4 with kicker rather than plasma
[08:28] <tuxwulf> I despie plasma, you see
[08:28] <Agent_bob> it's not the initramfs that is the issue.  it's his xorg
[08:28] <genii> eg: "[02:03] <orvv_> anyone know how to re-build the initr image? it has the wrong resolution settings"
[08:29] <genii> An hour and a half ago
[08:29] <Agent_bob> i also told him how to rebuild the initramfs.img     so...
[08:30] <tuxwulf> Oh I did not see that ...
[08:31] <tuxwulf> That's really cool.. I may askl you later too, when I got time to play with it...
[08:31] <Agent_bob> well i didn't go into detail, because it's not his problem.  but i told him   that   mkinitramfs   was the command and to man it for the details.
[08:31] <lfzcy> 大家好！
[08:32] <tuxwulf> Hello lfzcy
[08:33] <lfzcy> 呵呵。
[08:33] <genii> !ja | lfzcy
[08:34] <lfzcy> CHINA
[08:34] <genii> !cn
[08:34] <Agent_bob> tuxwulf the short and long of it is.    sudo mkinitramfs -o initramfs.image.file `uname -r`      or any other installed kernel version.
[08:34] <lfzcy> 谢谢
[08:35] <genii> lfzcy: 不必客气
[08:36]  * genii hugs Babelfish
[08:38] <Agent_bob> tuxwulf the dirs involved are /etc/mkinitramfs  and /usr/share/initramfs-tools     without any specifics on what you have in mind that's as specific as i can be.
[08:38] <tuxwulf> Agent_bob: eh... Yes. I have to define the specifics for myself and that may be a few days..
[08:39] <Agent_bob> heh.
[08:39] <Agent_bob> ok.
[08:40] <tuxwulf> Agent_bob: For now I copied yoru lines in my "clever stuff" diary
[08:40] <Agent_bob> i had to learn how to rebuild them because my "waky" setup required it.   so if you have later Q's just ping me.
[08:41] <tuxwulf> Thanks!
[08:42]  * Agent_bob wonders why he ever decided to use partitionless/nosuid/obfuscated_everything/intelikey setup in the first place...
[08:45] <genii> Security through obscurity? ;)
[08:45] <Agent_bob> that coupuled with some real security   yeah.
[08:47] <Agent_bob> tripwire tiger chkrootkit harden john and so forth
[08:47] <adred> hi..im currently pissed off by the dolphin bug (malformed URL media). the version i am using is 1.9.2. will it be fixed if i upgrade to the latest one. i just known there a new version availble in the repo.
[08:49] <Agent_bob> adred i have no clue.  but you can ask in #kubuntu-kde4  they "should" know
[08:51] <Agent_bob> genii i also like iftop for a quick look at traffic  although it's not unbreachable by any means
[08:53] <genii> Sadly nothing is impervious
[08:53] <Agent_bob> correct.   that's where the obscurity came in.
[08:56] <Agent_bob> hehhe   02:43> Checking for altered or out of date binaries...   <<< that one always fails.
[08:57] <Agent_bob> i wonder why...    d-----x--x  4 root root    4096 Dec  7  1941 /bin    :)))
[08:58] <genii> Heh
[08:59] <genii> When things were slow I made a pseudo root login on one of our boxes to trap hackers in. Was a jail with it's own fake binaries etc etc
[08:59] <Agent_bob> genii :)    ever have anyone in it ?
[09:00] <genii> Yeah a couple attacks from same range originating in S Korea
[09:00] <Agent_bob> hmmm nice.   all the hits i've had were from fellow irc'ers
[09:01] <Agent_bob> not from the "hackslab" site were they ?
[09:02] <genii> Not sure but I eventually banned the entire range they were using to be sure
[09:02] <Agent_bob> i've seen a few use that for a mirror.
[09:02] <genii> The abuse@theirispname     address didn't work right
[09:03] <Agent_bob> hehhe  of course not.
[09:04] <Agent_bob> but you know, that is a good test for honest isp's and very few people even check it.
[09:04] <genii> Well, thats our Standard Operating Procedure here. Make sure logs are  GMT referenced and email them to the abuse email listed for a whois and so on
[09:04] <genii> The bounced emails get the whole range auto-banned
[09:05] <Agent_bob> yeppers.
[09:05] <adred> Agent_bob: i don't know if this will solve my problem but could you do me a favor? the bug appears after i changed the path of dolphin in the Kmenu to "dophin /media/Storage". i forgot what's the default patha and there's no revert to defaults option availalble. could you please take a look at your default path and tell what it is?
[09:06] <genii> I'm pretty sure it's in /usr/bin
[09:06] <Agent_bob> adred it's something like /usr/lib/kde4/
[09:06] <Agent_bob> genii kde4  ^
[09:06] <genii> Ah, right forgot kde4
[09:07] <adred> Agent_bob i thougth you were using kde3 :)
[09:07] <Agent_bob> adred i'm not using any gui
[09:07] <Agent_bob> console dude
[09:07] <adred> Agent_bob :), i see your a geek :)
[09:08] <Agent_bob> that's g33k to you son   </military>
[09:09]  * genii rolls eyes
[09:09] <adred> i don't know, i guess..
    :)
[09:12] <Agent_bob> ;/
[09:12] <Agent_bob> so much for speaking geek...
[09:12]  * genii pokes Agent_bob to make sure he's actually here
[09:13] <Agent_bob> he is.
[09:13] <Agent_bob> but that reset was a little out of the ordenair
[09:13] <Agent_bob> maybe i better look at logs.
[09:13] <genii> Probably :)
[09:14] <Agent_bob> i think it was just a hickup.  but better be sure ;/
[09:14] <Agent_bob> i did get a server notice that irc was bumpy today
[09:14] <genii> They had some netsplts here earlier. But just now it was only you
[09:16] <Agent_bob> genii but normally if it's client side i find my spook still here...
[09:16] <Agent_bob> you didn't see any Agent_bob nick collision stuff did you ?
[09:16] <genii> Yes
[09:16] <Agent_bob> oh   ok.
[09:16] <genii> "[04:11] <-- Agent_bob has left this server (Nick collision from services.)."
[09:16] <Agent_bob> happened so fast i missed it.
[09:17] <Agent_bob> that's it.
[09:17] <Agent_bob> alls well
[09:17] <genii> OK
[09:18] <Agent_bob> i bet it was magical
[09:18] <Agent_bob> he prolly did it.
[09:19] <genii> If anyone the guy who arrived just before it happened
[09:19]  * genii eyes some users suspiciously
[09:20] <Agent_bob> naw too obvious.   anyone sharp enough to do that,  will usually lurk for a little bit to dismiss suspicion
[09:22] <Agent_bob> genii you can hang out in efnet #blackhats  for a little while and they'll check your irc client for security holes      for free  :)))
[09:22] <genii> I believe it. Probably in #whitehats too
[09:23] <genii> I don't think I'm going to venture there anytime soon however :)
[09:23] <Agent_bob> yeah.   i was going to mention both but decieded that would be redundant,  cause most of the nicks show up in both...
[09:24] <Agent_bob> ah  come on,  where's your sense of adventure ?
[09:24]  * Agent_bob is not there right now either.
[09:24] <genii> Maybe from the company machine. But i wouldn't risk it on my laptop. Too much valuable pr0n on it
[09:24] <Agent_bob> lol
[09:25] <Agent_bob> arky ?
[09:26] <Agent_bob> an arky ?
[09:28] <genii> It's a puzzler
[09:30] <Agent_bob> don't ya hate it when all the interesting names wont talk back
[09:33] <genii> I sometimes think maybe most of the users here are just data-collection things
[09:41]  * genii thinks about Life, the Universe and Everything
[09:42]  * Agent_bob thinks about thinking
[09:43]  * Agent_bob gives up on it.     "too late in life to start thinking now."
[09:43] <genii> Agent_bob: I do my best thinking usually just before I'm dozing off
[09:44] <Agent_bob> hmmm  ya know. i never stayed awake to see if i did or not.
[09:45] <Agent_bob> but yeah i know what you mean.   you can kinda turn the world off and let your mind wonder
[09:45] <genii> Yeah
[09:46]  * luca_b is not "a data collection thing", just idling
[09:47] <Agent_bob> luca_b is not a bot   </gasp>
[09:47] <genii> Hi luca_b :)
[09:47] <Agent_bob> :)\
[09:48] <luca_b> I did not go to work this morning (got sick) so I thought I'd just stay on IRC
[09:49] <Agent_bob> bashohII:  well we're glad to have you.     or we hate to here it,   or what ever applies.
[09:49] <Agent_bob> that's   oh;  ^
[09:50] <Agent_bob> stupid nick completion.
[09:50]  * genii smacks !tab around a bit
[09:50] <Agent_bob> i said i was going to turn that off....   haven't done it yet
[09:50] <Agent_bob> genii the client defaults to  : as a completion char
[09:51] <Agent_bob> and i can't think of a better one.  but i don't like that one either.
[09:51] <luca_b> Oh, that's why I didn't see konversation flashing
[09:51] <jon__> hi
[09:51] <Agent_bob> hey jon__
[09:52] <genii> @time toronto
[09:53] <genii> Hmm. Maybe i should start to sleep sometime before the sun comes up
[09:55]  * genii makes some decaf instant coffee
[09:56] <Agent_bob> genii heh what's sleep ?
[09:56] <Agent_bob> :)))
[09:57] <genii> Agent_bob: At least right now I can afford to hang out late into the morning, still on vacation until 16th
[09:57] <genii> Wordays I usually try to sleep before 1am
[09:58] <Agent_bob> actually,  i sleep rather well,  and some times quite long.  but my schedual is one of those revolving things...
[09:58] <luca_b> genii: Lucky, I have 2-3 weeks more before I can have some holidays
[09:59] <genii> luca_b: Remember to turn off your cellphone. I forgot to on mine and it was like i was still at work :/
[10:00] <luca_b> genii: the people I work with know that I'm rather quick in just turning the thing off if I see a call off-hours
[10:01]  * genii imagines Agent_bob on the swing-shift
[10:04] <Agent_bob> apt-cache search harden
[10:05] <genii> sudo apt-get install bastille
[10:05] <luca_b> sudo aptitude install shorewall
[10:05] <Agent_bob> and tripwire
[10:05] <luca_b> (should we go on further?)
[10:06] <genii> Theres just so many nice tools
[10:06] <Agent_bob> shorewall is only an FE  iptables is already there
[10:06] <Agent_bob> "hunt" hint hint
[10:06] <luca_b> Agent_bob: a quite good front endactually
[10:07] <luca_b> last time I used bastille it hosed half of my systsem (admittedly it was at the time of Mandrake/Mandriva 8.1 if I recall)
[10:07] <Agent_bob> luca_b depends entirely on what you are trying to do... it couldn't do what i needed done when i tried it
[10:08] <Agent_bob> mdk8  yeah that's about the time bastille came out wasn't it
[10:08] <luca_b> Agent_bob: well I had a simple setup, net and lan, nothing fancy
[10:08] <Agent_bob> yes that's what shorewall/guarddog are for   "nothing fancy"
[10:10] <Agent_bob> and work well for that.
[10:10] <luca_b> Agent_bob: still a huge leap than usping iptables manually (tried to in my early linux days)
[10:10] <Agent_bob> luca_b yeah it's not your common cli app
[10:11] <luca_b> Agent_bob: especially when migrating from ipchains to iptables I spent a while before I could figure out how to do port forwading
[10:11] <genii> AFK rain started pouring, closing windows doors rescuing cat etc
[10:12] <Agent_bob> :)
[10:13] <Agent_bob> is the weather all tweeked like an intelikey box  over there too genii ?
[10:14] <luca_b> Actually do you know who one needs to contact to add some stuff to the channel topic? the #kubuntu-kde4 one could use a link to my own (shameless plug) Plasma FAQ
[10:14] <genii> I dunno what one of those is, but it's thunderstorming out pretty darn good
[10:15] <Agent_bob> lets just say "very unusual"  and leave it at that.
[10:21] <niels_> ubottu: fix adept crash
[10:21] <genii> !aptfix
[10:22]  * genii sips
[10:22] <niels_> genii: thanks
[10:22] <genii> niels_: np
[10:32] <incorrect> is there a c++ IDE that can do object method completion drop downs for me?
[10:35] <emilsedgh> incorrect: kdevelop does it i think
[10:35] <incorrect> thanks
[10:37] <isent> hola a todos
[10:37] <isent> buenos dias
[11:08] <orvv_> I have an issue
[11:09] <orvv_> how to change x11 settings?
[11:10] <rysiek> orvv_: you mean like reolution, color depth, screen configuration etc?
[11:10] <orvv_> rysiek: yes, I changed in xorg.conf but nothing happenet
[11:12] <rysiek> orvv_: you should try playing in KMenu -> System Settings -> Display settings
[11:12] <rysiek> orvv_: (or something named similarily, I use a different language version ;) )
[11:12] <orvv_> he he... that's not even showing
[11:12] <orvv_> lol
[11:13] <rysiek> ?
[11:13] <rysiek> what isn't even showing
[11:13] <orvv_> X
[11:13] <orvv_> but it ded before
[11:17] <orvv_> xorg log looks fine
[11:17] <genii> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:17] <orvv_> thanks
[11:22] <mooper> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_file_systems&oldid=220529437#Features
[11:22] <mooper> go down to the "features!
[11:25] <rysiek> orvv_: sory, I was AFK
[11:25] <rysiek> orvv_: yeah, sudo dpkf-reconfigure xservr-xorg should help
[11:33] <funcrush> what is kde control center?
[11:34] <orvv_> thanks, the first wasnt doing anything
[11:35] <orvv_> o wait. is the same one
[11:35] <orvv_> didn,t work
[11:44] <incorrect> kdevelop is pretty pretty good
[11:45] <emilsedgh> incorrect: you must see KDevelop4 then! its awesome!
[11:45] <emilsedgh> i think that would be released with 4.2
[11:45] <incorrect> emilsedgh: i will once kde 4.x is usable
[11:46] <incorrect> i am not convinced with kde4 right now
[11:46] <emilsedgh> trunk/ is awesome atm
[11:46] <incorrect> i will wait
[11:50] <incorrect> when someone says, i've been using kde4 for a few weeks and its truely awesome, and i didnt spend all day getting it right
[11:54] <mitsarionas> hi... does anyone know about this sound on flash issue?
[12:04] <powertool08> anyone here use devilspie to get an embedded terminal?
[12:05] <rysiek> incorrect: erm, are you compiling it yourself under kubuntu? I'd love to use trunk/, but I don't want to b0rk my kde3 install (settings, etc)
[12:05] <incorrect> when i can apt-get install ...
[12:07] <incorrect> is kivio 4 much improved?
[12:08] <incorrect> would be nice to have a visio tool in linux
[12:16] <kyleprager> I am running Kubuntu 8.04 Desktop 2.6.24-19-generic kernel install, intel xeon x3220 quad core and BFG NVidia 8800GTS graphics card.  The OS keeps locking up on me.  The mouse gets stuck, i cant switch to virtual consoles and all keyboard shortcuts to reboot don't work.  I've looked through dmesg and /var/log/kern.log  and all i've found is "ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found."  Can someone suggest 
[12:20] <jonathan_> hello
[12:21] <kyleprager> hello
[12:22] <jonathan_> i am new here it it seems to be dead. maybe i dont undersatnd what to do, cant see a single note.
[12:23] <kyleprager> Hi everybody - I am running Kubuntu 8.04 Desktop 2.6.24-19-generic kernel install, intel xeon x3220 quad core and BFG NVidia 8800GTS graphics card.  The OS keeps locking up on me.  The mouse gets stuck, i cant switch to virtual consoles and all keyboard shortcuts to reboot don't work.  I've looked through dmesg and /var/log/kern.log  and all i've found is "ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found."  Can s
[12:29] <powertool08> kyleprager: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629707&page=2 might help
[13:12] <x_> как в Кубунту убрать КДЕ, и поставить Гном?
[13:12] <Pici> !ru | x_
[13:16] <ipezzei> hi
[13:20] <lintel> hi, is KDE4 meanwhile stable enough to use it?
[13:22] <Jucato> !kde4 | lintel
[13:22] <Jucato> (stable? quite. features enough for your needs? you will have to decide yourself. and ask in #kubuntu-kde4)
[13:23] <lintel> Jucato, ubottu, how is your personal experience?
[13:23] <Jucato> lintel: ubottu's a bot.. it won't have personal experience :)
[13:23] <lintel> :))
[13:23] <Jucato> lintel: I find what will be KDE 4.1 quite usable. but I'm not your average user so...
[13:25] <lintel> Jucato, KDE4.1 is the reason why I consider to shift. Does Kubuntu also use NetworkManager?
[13:25] <Jucato> yep
[13:29] <mnoir> when I right click an icon on the desktop I get a menu that includes open cut copy renamr etc.  Where in kde-land do I change this menu?.
[13:30] <mnoir> renamr=rename :)
[13:30] <Dr_willis> never noticed a simple way (or any way) to change it. What do you want to change?
[13:31] <mnoir> add a non-annoying delete, remove move to trash
[13:31] <mnoir> I thought previously I had this and I cannot find it :(
[13:31] <Dr_willis> I do recall a option to add a 'Delete'  somewhere.
[13:31] <Dr_willis> or you hold down shift I think.
[13:31] <Dr_willis> or use shift-delete
[13:33] <Dr_willis> First tab in 'confgure konqueror'
[13:33] <Dr_willis> 'show delete context menu which bypass's the trashcan'
[13:33] <mnoir> Dr_willis: konq controls this? hmm - brb
[13:34] <Jucato> "the file manager controls this"
[13:34] <Jucato> (though you can set it in kcontrol too)
[13:35] <Dr_willis> Now if you are using Dolphin - Not sure. :)
[13:35] <mnoir> yep - the konq change worked - looks like what I used to have.  I decided to do 8.04 clean since I have been upgrading since about 5.04
[13:35] <Jucato> you shouldn't be using D3lphin :)
[13:35] <mnoir> and I wanted to wipe all the old unhealthy customized settings just to see how things work now
[13:36] <Jucato> but in KDE 4,it's the same. "the file manager controls this" :)
[13:36] <mnoir> Jucato: pray tell - why not (cite references)?
[13:37] <Jucato> mnoir: quite simple. D3lphin (the old KDE 3 version of the abandoned Dolphin) is incomplete, unmaintained, buggy, and just plain terrible. :)
[13:37] <Dr_willis> dolphin in kde3 - is one of the first things i disable. :)
[13:37] <mnoir> hmm - too bad - it's dual pane toggle is good
[13:38] <Dr_willis> You can do dual panes in konqueror also
[13:38] <mnoir> more effort but I guess I will go back or install kommander
[13:38] <Jucato> more effort? O.o
[13:39] <mnoir> I always found it more effort than kommander
[13:40] <Dr_willis> 'this is linux, do what you like' (tm)
[13:40] <mnoir> sry - krusader, not kommander
[13:40] <mnoir> :)
[13:41] <Jucato> you can always save a Konqueror View Profile with dual pane set to specific URLs
[13:41] <Jucato> but anyway
[13:45] <mnoir> thanks to all - konq dual panel is just as tobbleable so I am all set!
[13:45] <mnoir> tobb=togg
[13:47] <Dr_willis> i recall some url on restoring the 'missing' profiles. to Konqueror. that Kubuntu decided to clean out.
[13:48] <Dr_willis> hit F8 also to get a terminal at the boottom of the konqueror window. :)
[13:49] <mnoir> Dr_willis: yeah - I recall that but just getting an icon that opens the stock filemanager with one tweek will be enough for me - so I just save a new profile and invoke that
[13:56] <Sophist> hello
[13:56] <Sophist> someone know the mathematica software?
[13:57] <Sophist> i have installed it with no errors, and now i get this message when i open it http://pastebin.com/m7d89badf
[13:57] <Sophist> i can see the windows but i cant touch anything, and the program get freezes
[13:57] <Dr_willis> Why are you running it with sudo?
[13:57] <Sophist> that was the last try
[13:57] <Dr_willis> and graphical apps are normally NOT ran with sudo, but kdesudo
[13:57] <Sophist> with no sudo it is the same error
[13:58] <Dr_willis> So the whole gist of the error message is --->   ' http://zardoz-technomage.es/blog/3d/187/
[14:00] <Sophist> is that my problem?
[14:00] <Sophist> i miss some packet
[14:01] <Dr_willis> oops wrong pastebuffer..
[14:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:01] <Sophist> ahm :)
[14:01] <Dr_willis> X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8
[14:01] <Sophist> aha
[14:01] <Dr_willis> Extension:    153 (RENDER)
[14:02] <Sophist> render is related graphic driver right?
[14:02] <Dr_willis> Yep. You got the full 3d drivers for your card installed? (im just guessing)
[14:02] <Sophist> it is a laptop and is not mine, probably thats the fault
[14:03] <Sophist> thanks for the clue, i go see it :)
[14:08] <lfzcy> 大家好。请问怎么转到中文聊天室去？
[14:10] <Sophist> hm
[14:10] <Sophist> i have installed the ati driver from ati.com
[14:11] <Sophist> i always used nvidia and i know nvidia autodriver is not quite good
[14:11] <Sophist> now i clic n menus but kde gets freezy
[14:11] <Sophist> must i change something in xorg conf?
[14:12] <Dr_willis> Never seen or heard of anyont with that issue befor Sophist
[14:12] <Dr_willis> what video card are you usign exactly?
[14:13] <Sophist> ati x600
[14:13] <AlexanderB> hello
[14:13] <Sophist> may i ran too much
[14:13] <AlexanderB> can someone tell me how to install creative audigy 2 zs under kubuntu?
[14:13] <Sophist> i started again and now is asking license and things
[14:13] <Sophist> hold onç
[14:13] <Sophist> with no ç
[14:17] <FTB> Hmm?
[14:17] <Qhestion> can anyone recommend an ftp server for quick'n'dirty filesharing in a lan environment?
[14:18] <Dr_willis> Qhestion,  you may want to use scp/ssh  and winscp on the windows box's - makes it rather easy.
[14:19] <Qhestion> ok
[14:19] <Qhestion> though i'd prefer FTP
[14:21] <khaleel5000> hello, i have ubuntu hardy heron , i am in KDE, how do i change my screen resoultion form kde (a gui tool to change resolution?)
[14:22] <Qhestion> control centre (KControl) -> Peripherals -> Monitor & Display
[14:22] <lfzcy> 大家好
[14:23] <khaleel5000> Qhestion: there is no Monitor & display in the kontrol center,
[14:23] <khaleel5000> :(
[14:23] <khaleel5000> thats the problem
[14:24] <Qhestion> hit Alt-F2 and type "kcontrol"
[14:24] <khaleel5000> yes...
[14:24] <Qhestion> dont know if that and what you got is the same program
[14:24] <Qhestion> i am using fluxbox, you know
[14:25] <khaleel5000> hlfshell: is there  a gui based ubuntu control center or something to configure screen resolution?
[14:25] <khaleel5000> ubuntu/kubuntu
[14:26] <ngirard> Hi all, I'm looking for tips to enhance the package upgrading workflow between my 2 ubuntu boxes, let's call them a and b. For now, what I've been performing is
[14:27] <lfzcy> 大家好
[14:27] <ngirard> 1) on machine a:
[14:27] <ngirard> cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ ; rename 's/%3a/:/' *.deb ; dpkg-scanpackages ./ /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz
[14:27] <ngirard> 2) on machine b:
[14:27] <ngirard> cp /etc/apt/{sources.list.machineA,sources.list}
[14:27] <FTB> Hmm?
[14:27] <ngirard> apt-get update
[14:27] <ngirard> apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:27] <lfzcy> 。。。
[14:27] <ngirard> cp /etc/apt/{sources.list.internet,sources.list}
[14:28] <ngirard> While that method works, the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives/ keeps growing, which is quite problematic.
[14:28] <ngirard> Then I need a script that would, either delete the packages in machineA:/var/cache/apt/archives/ after they've been installed in machineB, or scans through the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives/ and delete all but the most recent packages.
[14:28] <ngirard> What do you think ?
[14:29] <lfzcy> 怎么才能进中文频道啊
[14:29] <lfzcy> 疯了
[14:30] <alexander> ïîäñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ïðîãðàììêó äëÿ çàïèñèäè cd è dvd
[14:30] <lfzcy> 谢谢
[14:33] <shaffy> does anyone know if the swap space has to be on a logical or primary partition?  i have mine currently in a primary partition, and i believe this setup is preventing my swap space from being used.  the system finds the space, but never uses it.
[14:33] <AlexanderB> how can i install audigy 2 under ubuntu?
[14:39] <alexander> please advise the program to record a cd and dvd discs
[14:42] <ShyneX> alexander: xcdroast
[14:43] <AlexanderB>  
[14:43] <AlexanderB>  
[14:47] <drmarwat> hello
[14:47] <DAP> hi
[14:47] <drmarwat> how can i download nvidia non free drivers for kubuntu 8.04?
[14:49] <ShyneX> check the nvidia website
[14:49] <drmarwat> i have installed compiz and the nvidia driver from ubuntu repos doesnt look like to work for it
[14:53] <coucouf> have you tries updating the driver with envy ?
[14:53] <coucouf> *tried
[14:54] <drmarwat> coucouf: i guess i didnt do that
[14:55] <coucouf> the latest version available through envy is 173.14.09 and it will avoid you all the harassment on installing the driver by hand
[14:56] <drmarwat> i looked for envy and i see many packages, should i just get the envy-core?
[14:57] <coucouf> envy core, and there must be a qt-envy, envy-qt or the like for KDE
[14:58] <drmarwat> yes these two are there too
[14:59] <coucouf> envyng-core and envyng-qt are what you need I guess
[14:59] <drmarwat> ok im downloading these, it will take few minutes
[14:59] <coucouf> take your time ;)
[15:00] <drmarwat> coucouf: thanks
[15:00] <drmarwat> does envy has a GUI or it works in shell only?
[15:01] <Schorfi> gui
[15:01] <drmarwat> Schorfi: thanks
[15:01] <drmarwat> i will wait till it is downloaded
[15:01] <coucouf> for what I remember, there is a console-only interface with envyng-core, and then either gnome or kde gui with the -gtk and -qt packages
[15:04] <Sophist> there is a command to debug programs but i dont remember it
[15:05] <Sophist> someone can advice me?
[15:06] <coucouf> gdb can do this but you'll have to read the manual :)
[15:07] <Sophist> i will do
[15:07] <Sophist> thanks again
[15:12] <jimmy51> how complex is it to create a PXE boot server under kubuntu?
[15:18] <maxmad> hello to every one
[15:23] <atrox3> hey
[15:23] <atrox3> wie kann ich einen symbolischen link entfernen?
[15:23] <biophysics> rm <link>
[15:24] <atrox3> ich hab einen ordner verlinkt
[15:30] <sledge> atrox3: rm -f <link>
[15:31] <atrox3> sledge: thx
[15:33] <joe__> does anyone know kubuntu?
[15:34] <joe__> does anyone know linux???
[15:34] <Schorfi> heard about it
[15:34] <joe__> well i need help with linux
[15:35] <Sophist> mathematica does not gives any error but i cant touch any menu and it get freezes after
[15:35] <Sophist> i have installed correctly the ati driver, so the render error is fixed
[15:35] <Schorfi> ask your question, joe__, and maybe someone can help you
[15:35] <Sophist> now i just dont know where to find
[15:36] <joe__> ok i'll give it a shot
[15:39] <joe__> i am new with useing Kubutnu aka linux and i do have NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] but everytime i do enable it from the restricted drivers and i do restart it make's everything really really big.  how do i fix it so that it does work with my computer cuz my computer was make for windows 200 and i am dual booting i have Kubuntu on my 40 gig and windows onto my 80 gig
[15:39] <joe__> 2000*
[15:40] <joe__> so can anyone help me out?
[15:41] <joe__> I'm a newbie when it come's to linux
[15:41] <ngirard> Hi, I've been experiencing a blocking problem for 3 months now, which I've been reporting here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/61380 ; and my posts have been simply ignored. What should I do ?
[15:42] <atrox3> joe__: press on the left side the K than -->
[15:42] <atrox3> 	
[15:42] <atrox3> System Preferences
[15:42] <joe__> k
[15:42] <atrox3> than Display (or something like that)
[15:43] <joe__> what do u want me to do?
[15:44] <atrox3> joe__: u must change your screen resolution
[15:44] <OutoLumo> Sophist, you may find #mathematica more appropriate place for your questions...
[15:44] <joe__> i have tried that and it wont let me
[15:45] <atrox3> joe__: maybe u need root privileges
[15:46] <atrox3> joe_press on the red button
[15:46] <joe__> and how do i do that?
[15:46] <atrox3> u see it?
[15:47] <joe__> no
[15:47] <atrox3> np, press <Alt>+F2
[15:47] <atrox3> write xterm
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[15:48] <joe__> it shows run command
[15:48] <laskk> hi
[15:48] <atrox3> y, write xterm
[15:49] <laskk> hey i want to turn off wireless form connecting automatically in network
[15:49] <atrox3> and press run/ok
[15:49] <laskk> how can i do it
[15:49] <joe__> ok and nothing
[15:49] <atrox3> is a box open?
[15:49] <laskk> joe_    help plse
[15:50] <joe__> should i run it in the terminal window?
[15:50] <atrox3> y
[15:50] <joe__> ok a box did show up
[15:50] <joe__> now what?
[15:51] <atrox3> nice, write kdesudo systemsettings
[15:51] <atrox3> and press <enter>
[15:52] <joe__> ok now what?
[15:52] <joe__> wait
[15:53] <joe__> it say's :kedcor &KProcess): WARNING: _attachPTY() 11
[15:53] <atrox3> thats strange
[15:53] <joe__> yeah i know
[15:53] <joe__> but anywayz
[15:54] <atrox3> which version do u use?
[15:55] <joe__> well i'm look'n @ my graphics card and it does detect RIVA TNT2
[15:55] <atrox3> thats right?
[15:56] <drmarwat> hello
[15:56] <joe__> yeah i guess
[15:56] <Sophist> OutoLumo: thanks, i did not knew that channel exists
[15:56] <drmarwat> i have 4 virtual desktops enabled but then panel shows none, how can i enable those?
[15:57] <OutoLumo> Sophist, trial and error :-)
[15:57] <joe__> but i wanna be able to have it so that when i do enable it from the restricted drivers and when i do restart then it wont make everything so damn big on the screen
[15:57] <coucouf> ngirard: maybe providing lspci -vv / -vvn and dmesg as requested, I think nobody put theirs so far
[15:57] <laskk> is anybody knows how to use airsnort efficiently
[15:57] <joe__> so can anyone help me out?
[15:58] <atrox3> joe__: i think ur screen resolution is too high
[15:58] <joe__> yeah i know but that's the problem i can't change that once i restart my computer cuz it wont let me
[15:58] <coucouf> ngirard: can you also try the card on a different slot/motherboard or with an amd64 kernel ? The more information you give the more likely the bug will be looked at
[15:59] <Sophist> hehe, yes
[15:59] <biophysics> joe__: is there some reason u want to install restricted drivers. Is there same problem before installing restricted drivers ?
[16:00] <joe__> so i can have gadet's onto my desktop
[16:00] <drmarwat> i know my question is pathetic but its really annoying not to have the virtual desktop in panel when they are enabled already
[16:02] <biophysics> joe__ do u know what is the correct resolution that u want (from XP)
[16:02] <coucouf> drmarwat: right click/unlock your panel, right click/add an applet, and find the virtual destkop applet, I don't know the english name sorry...
[16:03] <joe__> but also i wanna be able to have really cool 3D graphics on the desktop
[16:03] <drmarwat> coucouf: thanks, i appreciate it
[16:04] <coucouf> joe__: I don't think you will get desktop effects with a TNT2
[16:05] <drmarwat> coucouf: it worked, thanks
[16:05] <coucouf> drmarwat: great :)
[16:06] <drmarwat> envy is installed too and i uninistalled the nvidia driver, now i will reboot and try installing the latest driver as it gave me an error
[16:06] <drmarwat> i will be right back
[16:11] <oobe> firefox keeps dieing unexpectedly running it from konsole i see the only out put is seg fault
[16:12] <rickest> oobe: installed any add-ons?
[16:13] <oobe> just foxmarks
[16:13] <_CrashMaster_> what file does grub use for its bootable disks list?
[16:13] <rickest> oobe: you might try renamed ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.bak.  You'll (temporarily) loose all your settings but that will help determine if something went wrong in your config rather than the program itself
[16:14] <rickest> _CrashMaster_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:14] <_CrashMaster_> thanks
[16:14] <oobe> ok rickest i will try that
[16:15] <oobe> yep it still crashes
[16:16] <oobe> now im getting some out put that i didnt see before
[16:16] <oobe> (firefox:11532): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[16:16] <rickest> oobe: is it just one site or several?
[16:16] <rickest> those assertions usually aren't critical
[16:17] <oobe> just one site as far as i can tell but i use it all the time
[16:17] <rickest> oobe: try surfing other sites for awhile.  it may be a bug with something that site is doing (and it still shouldn't crash) but at least then you'd know what it is
[16:18] <oobe> yeah i think thats what im gonna do
[16:19] <oobe> you know what i think it might be it could be the flash plugin it updated tonight
[16:22] <oobe> it is the flashplugin
[16:23] <TacticalFrostbit> how do i change the screen resolution??
[16:24] <oobe> rickest, i figured it out it was the new flash update i rolled back to old one in apt/cache
[16:24] <rickest> oobe: ahh, that's disappointing but not surprising  :)
[16:25] <oobe> its easy to fix probs if you can reproduce the errors
[16:25] <oobe> i hate it when problems are intermittent
[16:27] <rickest> no doubt
[16:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> can one upgrade kubuntu with the latest cd and not lose any files?
[16:27] <oobe> is there anyway to tell adept no to prompt me to use that update
[16:28] <oobe> btw ty for you help believe it or not i probably wouldnt of figured it out with out some prompting
[16:32] <ngirard> coucouf: Hi, and thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately the output of lspci would be useless, but I'll try to plug the card on another motherbord and see wether it works. Cheers
[16:32] <rickest> oobe: yes,   echo flashplugin hold | apt-get --set-selections          # where 'flashplugin' is the correct name of the package
[16:32] <rickest> wait, not apt-get, dpkg
[16:33] <rickest> echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections
[16:33] <oobe> ok will that stop future updates?
[16:33] <rickest> yes
[16:33] <oobe> i spose it doesnt matter
[16:33] <oobe> until later
[16:33] <oobe> but how do i reverse it
[16:33] <PHaLaNX11> hi, kubuntu hardy tells me that i didn't make a clear shutdown with my ntfs partition (winxp), so the storage media folders become empty, what can i do about it?
[16:33] <rickest> echo pkgname deinstall | dpkg --set-selections
[16:34] <rickest> that doesn't really "uninstall" it, just releases the hold
[16:34] <rickest> you can do 'dpkg --get-selections | grep hold' to see what's held back
[16:34] <oobe> ok thanks i will save this to a txt file
[16:35] <rickest> oobe: don't forget to restore your ~/.mozilla dir if you don't want to have to set all your configs again
[16:35] <oobe> yeah i did already
[16:35] <oobe> thanks
[16:36] <PHaLaNX11> i can't mount my ntfs partitions, my question is above thanks...
[16:42] <rickest> PHaLaNX11: ntfsfix can probably fix it, or the safest most reliable way is to simply boot into Windows and shut it down properly.  google has about a gazillion results for this problem
[16:43] <biophysics> PHaLaNX11   Open K-menu -> systemsettings -> advanced
[16:48] <Vermux> why when Im running adept_manager it doesnt give me administrator rights to install updates unless I rub sudo adept_manager?
[16:51] <biophysics> Vermux: r u running adept_manager in a konsole ?
[16:53] <Vermux> biophysics: no, in run command
[16:54] <biophysics> Vermux: what happens when u run adept manager from _start_K menu . is it is working OK
[16:56] <biophysics> Vermux: I would say it is by design. For security reasons u need to be admin. in run command. type: kdesu adept_manager you will get asked for a password
[16:57] <Vermux> biophysics: yes, when I type sudo adept_manager it's fine. but it used to be just fine when I typed just adept_manager in the past
[16:58] <Vermux> biophysics: I will tell  u if it's working from the k_menu in a moment
[16:59] <PHaLaNX11> rickest and biophysics thanks
[17:00] <kilonux> hello, I would like to migrate from ubu to kubu , how to avoid uninstalling wicd?
[17:01] <rickest> what is wicd?
[17:01] <kilonux> networkmanager replacment
[17:02] <rickest> kilonux: I can only guess that wicd works under KDE, too?
[17:02] <dan__> hi @ll
[17:02] <dan__> anyone here work with some nifty service menus?
[17:05] <Vermux> why when I open konsole, it opens another konsole window with the message kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11
[17:05] <Vermux> ?
[17:05] <kilonux> rickest:  but  wicd must be uninstalled first because of networkmanager, which i don't want, om I could uninstall it and reinstall wicd later, but how stupid...
[17:05] <kilonux> ^^ OR  i could
[17:06] <rickest> kilonux: if you install a metapkg, you get all the packages. or you can do them individually.  It's not only NOT stupid, it's the only way it could be done
[17:07] <rickest> so 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop', then (optionally) 'apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop'.  They're not mutually exclusive, though.  You can leave both installed if you want
[17:08] <kilonux> rickest: there wouldn't be a 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop "except networkmanager"  ´
[17:10] <rickest> kilonux: no, unfortunately 'kubuntu-desktop' is a metapackage which keeps you from having to 'apt-get' 692 times.  so install the meta-pkg, remove what you don't want/need
[17:11] <kilonux> rickest: thanks,,
[17:11] <kilonux> I do this to solve keyboard problem
[17:11] <kilonux> and suspend
[17:12] <rickest> kilonux: even then some stuff you don't want will have to stay (avahi for example).  in those cases, you have to leave them installed but you can disable their use easily.
[17:12] <oobe> anyone here use ndiswrapper in *buntu
[17:12] <rickest> kilonux: just one of the disadvantages of 'heavy' desktops. the upside is you install one thing and it's all just there like it should be
[17:12] <rickest> it's a compromise
[17:13] <kilonux> rickest:  I'll have to google avahi a bit......
[17:14] <rickest> kilonux: hate it, I disabled mine  :)
[17:14] <rickest> but then my network settings are very finite so 'dynamic networking config' is just not something I need
[17:15] <kilonux> what problems did you get (solved)?
[17:15] <jals> how do i change the default action when i insert a cd?
[17:18] <biophysics> jals: do u see the CD icon in the right botton corner when u insert CD ?
[17:18] <jals> no
[17:19] <biophysics> jals: is it kubuntu hardy or gutsy ?
[17:19] <jals> hardy
[17:20] <biophysics> jals: right-click on the panel and add applet "storage media"
[17:20] <jals> ok
[17:20] <biophysics> now put a CD and it will appear in the right bottom corner. then right click on the CD-icon - properties and u can change it there
[17:20] <jals> ah ok, thanks
[17:21] <biophysics> (it should be possible to do the same in systemsettings)
[17:34] <Vermux> why when I run Konsole it opens another konsole with the message "kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11"??
[17:42] <Coggz> !install
[17:50] <Coggz> hi carlos
[17:51] <carlos> hi Coggz
[17:51] <Coggz> !kde
[17:57] <daemon3_opera> Is there an application for KUbuntu that can guess song tags just from the track itself?
[17:57] <carlos> can anyone help me? im trying to install kde, i have ubuntu
[17:58] <Coggz> hi there carlos, try opening a terminal window from the gnome menu,
[17:58] <daemon3_opera> carlos: If you go to Synaptic>Package>Install By Task, youll see KUbuntu.  Check it.
[17:58] <Coggz> thx daemon3_opera
[17:58] <daemon3_opera> carlos: You'll probably be fine from there.
[17:59] <Coggz> daemon3_opera: wht about login manager?
[17:59] <Coggz> !kdm
[17:59] <Coggz> !gdm
[17:59] <Coggz> !display-manager
[18:01] <daemon3_opera> Coggz: It should be installed with the KUbuntu bundle.
[18:01] <Coggz> oh ,ok
[18:06] <carlos> how do i gt to
[18:07] <carlos> sorry, ignore that
[18:07] <carlos> ok, this, how do i get to this Synaptic>Package>Install?
[18:08] <daemon3_opera> System>Administrator
[18:08] <carlos> ok, thanks
[18:11] <YeppBoy> How do I install Opera in Kubuntu?
[18:12] <YeppBoy> I only started using it\ Yesterday
[18:13] <Coggz> !opera
[18:15] <zanberdo> running kubuntu 8.04. I have configured my session manager to start with an empty session.  I have added a sym link to ~/.kde/Autostart to launch kmix.  When I log in kmix starts as expected, except that it starts with the mixer window open.  How can I configure kmix to launch without having it open to the mixer window?  I've checked /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kmixrc to see if there
[18:15] <zanberdo> was something that might control this, but it doesn't appear to...
[18:23] <sigma_12> what happened to intrepid alpha 2?
[18:25] <rav> hello. i just noticed kubuntu is sorting files like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/26710/ is this normal?
[18:25] <Xcaliber009> can you do an fsck of physical file systems from the live CD?
[18:26] <stdin> rav: that's how ls sorts it, yes
[18:28] <rav> stdin: ah. i'd never noticed
[18:29] <sigma_12> stdin: is intrepid alpha 2 out?
[18:30] <snypermann> I think I have a problem with sudo
[18:31] <snypermann> woeps, this is for kubuntu
[18:31] <stdin> sigma_12: doesn't look like it
[18:31] <sigma_12> ?
[18:33] <snypermann> ah, so it will be: a fresh install: in terminal: sudo apt-get install ... (for ex. skype). answer: "sudo: timestamp too far in the future" what do i need to do to fix this problem?
[18:34] <snypermann> in ubuntu
[18:36] <cyberponix> Has anyone been able to get the sony walkman mp3 player to work with kubuntu
[18:42] <Faust-C> would anyone have some links/docs for a new user
[18:42] <Faust-C> i have a friend im trying to get learn this
[18:43] <sledge> Faust-C: The Ubuntu Book.
[18:43] <Faust-C> which there are many
[19:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i install emacs?
[19:20] <jussi01> !emacs
[19:20] <jussi01> sudo aptitude install emacs  ?
[19:20] <_CrashMaster_> sudo apt-get install emacs
[19:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> is vim better_
[19:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?
[19:21] <jussi01> !best
[19:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> i didnt say best
[19:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> i said better
[19:21] <jussi01> CostaRicanQuaker: the point is, its not better or worse, just different
[19:22] <jussi01> CostaRicanQuaker: depends on what you like, try it and see
[19:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> more versatile, with more tools, etc
[19:22] <jussi01> CostaRicanQuaker: both have very different styles - the best answer I can give you is try them and see
[19:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> can i have both_
[19:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?
[19:23] <jussi01> yes, of course...
[19:25] <ubuntu> hola
[19:26] <jussi01> hi ubuntu
[19:27]  * CostaRicanQuaker waves at ubuntu
[19:28] <incorrect> can konversation create multiple network tabs?
[19:28] <Solar10> howdy
[19:30] <jon__>  Solar10 howdy
[19:31] <oobe> hi im having probs setting essid with iwconfig does anyone know what might be the problem assuming im using the correct syntax cause i am
[19:33] <Solar10> I'm getting quite a few fetch errors when I run apt-get update. thinking maybe my sources.list is stale or bloated. tried using System>Admin>Software Resources to rebuild it but still getting the errors.
[19:34] <Solar10> ran Select Best Server as well.. no dice
[19:39] <f3rr311> hello
[19:40] <f3rr311> i need help getting guild wars runningin kubuntu
[19:42] <jussi01> f3rr311: have you checked the appdb to see if it works in wine?
[19:42] <jussi01> or is it native?
[19:42] <jussi01> !appdb
[19:43] <f3rr311> its there but having issues
[19:45] <f3rr311> wooo adept just released a updated ati drive maybe it might fix this shutdown issue
[19:46] <f3rr311> lol i cant logout is restart from kde menu
[19:57] <piquadrat> Hi! Anybody knows the name of the executable that displays the battery tray symbol?
[19:58] <stdin> piquadrat: guidance-power-manager
[19:58] <piquadrat> stdin: ah, cool, thanks!
[19:58] <JoshOvki> thanks stdin :P
[19:58] <JoshOvki> and thanks piquadrat for asking, i was woundering that a few days ago
[20:07] <Tophat> is there a tool on the 8.04 LIVE cd that i can use to partition and setup my disks without installing?
[20:08] <rickest> parted, gparted, but I'd recommend the GParted LiveCD if you have time to grab/burn it
[20:08] <kaminix> How do I mount a cue/bin file in Linux?
[20:09] <rickest> kaminix: assuming you have the proper file system support, '-o loop' is probably the only other thing that's missing from your mount command
[20:09] <kaminix> How do I find out what fs it is?
[20:10] <rickest> kaminix: from wherever you got it?  Is it Mac?  maybe HPFS.  honestly, it doesn't sound like a mountable thing but I could easily be wrong
[20:10] <kaminix> It's a PC CD-Rom I think.
[20:11] <rickest> kaminix: if that's correct (I'm still doubtful), mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.bin /path/to/mount/point
[20:12] <kaminix> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[20:12] <rickest> kaminix: I'd have thought KDE would automount on insert if it was something your system knew about
[20:12] <rickest> er, bad comment, nm
[20:12] <kaminix> But it's a cue/bin, not a CD.
[20:12] <rickest> right
[20:14] <rickest> kaminix: google "linux mount cue bin file system". it appears to involve a little more work than normal
[20:14] <rickest> you need bchunk apparently to convert it to .ISO first
[20:14] <kaminix> okay, thanks
[20:15] <kaminix> Found a site :)
[20:15] <Tophat> rickest - thank you!
[20:16] <qunix> #freenode#ubuntu-ro
[20:20] <no1uknow> newbie question, can someone tell me how to change the date via terminal?
[20:21] <kaminix> no1uknow: man date
[20:21] <kaminix> :)
[20:22] <no1uknow> kaminix: thx can't get the time zone to change however
[20:22] <snirp> hi there, this one must be simple: how do I get the panel to sit at the bottom of my screen?
[20:23] <kaminix> no1uknow: Sorry, I just know the command exists. Never actually needed to use it. :/
[20:23] <no1uknow> np thx
[20:24] <snirp> anyone: the black panel with system tray and program launcher and stuff (wigdets, i know)
[20:24] <snirp> KDE 4.1 BTW
[20:26] <ubuntu> hello
[20:26] <snirp> hi there
[20:26] <snirp> anyone here using 4.1?
[20:27] <ubuntu> lol....too old<(
[20:27] <rocko_> have problem with boot messages not coming up when I can the vga in menu.lst it worked in older releases does any body know of a fix?
[20:28] <snirp> just want to move the panel from top to bottom.... must be dead simple right?
[20:28] <kyleprager> Hi everyone - I am running Kubuntu 8.04 Desktop 2.6.24-19-generic kernel install, intel xeon x3220 quad core and BFG NVidia 8800GTS graphics card.  The OS keeps locking up on me.  The mouse gets stuck, i cant switch to virtual consoles and all keyboard shortcuts to reboot don't work.  I've looked through dmesg and /var/log/kern.log  and all i've found is "ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found." which d
[20:28] <kyleprager> ggest a way I could troubleshoot this issue?
[20:28] <snirp> n/m fixed it
[20:28] <rocko_> have problem with boot messages not coming up when I change the vga in menu.lst it worked in older releases does any body know of a fix?
[20:34] <kyleprager> can someone help me troubleshoot my 8.04 Hardy install freezing up on me?
[20:41] <vladimir__> hi
[20:48] <ali__> help!
[20:48] <ali__> someone PLEASE HELP ME with compiz like how to get it uninstalled COMPLETely and and REINSTALLEd so that the god damn tray icon shows up, so that compiz doesnt end every minute, so that my min/max/x dont go away/and so that i can finally use themes please help before i break my monitor...
[20:48] <kyleprager>  can someone help me troubleshoot my 8.04 Hardy install freezing up on me?  anybody?...
[20:48] <kyleprager> i'm not retarded
[20:49] <kyleprager> But my kubuntu install is really freezing on me, and windows didnt freeze and debian didnt freeze.  This is unique to Kubuntu
[20:50] <kyleprager> and I cant seem to get anything good from any logs
[20:50] <kyleprager> suggestions?
[20:51] <kyleprager> ali - did you try to do an "aptitude purge <package-name>" already?
[20:54] <juan_> !nx
[20:57] <juan_> anybody know how the hell i install freenx on hardy?
[20:57] <juan_> is it better than ssh -XC ?
[20:58] <oobe> does anyone know how i cant tell adept not to upgrade a specific package
[20:59] <chemist109> juan_: I use NX fairly frequently.  It's much better than plain X or VNC.  Hang on a second and I'll get the Hardy install instructions...
[21:00] <juan_> oobe: not sure in adept but its done at apt level (google) or install synaptic where its in the menus
[21:00] <sourcemaker> how can I disable the martian source  kernel check???
[21:00] <chemist109> juan_: Here's the FreeNX install instructions using Marcelo Shima's repository:  http://www.drtek.ca/freenx-server-ubuntu-hardy
[21:00] <juan_> thx
[21:00] <oobe> juan_, i have done it at an apt level apt-get upgrade holds it back but adept keeps prompting me to install it
[21:12] <kyleprager>  can someone help my trouble shoot my Hardy 8.04 install freezing up on me during normal use?
[21:19] <Vermux> how do I turn on colors in vim?
[21:19] <rickest> :syntax
[21:20] <rickest> and possibly :set filetype=perl  (or whatever)
[21:20] <hola> hi guys i've have a problem with sudo
[21:21] <Vermux> rickest: pattern not found
[21:22] <rickest> Vermux: sounds like '/'?
[21:23] <Vermux> rickest: I typed /syntax on, or /syntax. it says pattern not found
[21:24] <rickest> Vermux: I said ":", not "/"
[21:24] <snirp> hey there, a bit of an issue [kde 4.1]
[21:24] <chemist109> Vermux: To make it permanent, edit /etc/vim/vimrc and uncomment the line that says syntax: on
[21:24] <Vermux> rickest: I also tried ":" . it says :"the command is not available in this version"
[21:24] <snirp> whenever my system boots, i loose all the panels and plasmoids, leaving me with a blank desktop...
[21:25] <rickest> Vermux: sounds like vim-minimal or something maybe, I'm not sure
[21:25] <snirp> the panels and plasmoids can be added, only to be lost on reboot. No errors when booting
[21:25] <emilsedgh> snirp: haha, i remember it happenned in early plasma days.try updating and removing $KDEHOME
[21:25] <rickest> Vermux: er, vim-tiny maybe?
[21:26] <snirp> kdehome package?
[21:26] <snirp> sorry, newbe\
[21:26] <snirp> path?
[21:26] <emilsedgh> snirp: no no, your kde's configs directory
[21:26] <emilsedgh> snirp: first make sure there is nothing important there
[21:26] <snirp> sounds scary....
[21:26] <snirp> where is it at?
[21:26] <emilsedgh> and then remove it
[21:26] <emilsedgh> snirp: open a konsole and type echo $KDEHOME
[21:26] <snirp> where to find it? sudo .....
[21:26] <snirp> ok
[21:27] <emilsedgh> snirp: how you instaled kde 4.1?
[21:27] <snirp> from a resource i added to the some file... sorry
[21:27] <emilsedgh> s/instaled/installed/
[21:27] <snirp> worked fine initially
[21:27] <Vermux> chemist109: still gives an error
[21:28] <snirp> only after tempering with panel layout it started to fail
[21:28] <chemist109> Vermex: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vim       <-  You're probably using vim-minimal
[21:28] <snirp> echo $KDEHOME comes up empty
[21:28] <emilsedgh> snirp: probably it was an old repository or something like that.4.1 will be released in 20 days, so i'd like to suggest you to be patient :)
[21:29] <sourcemaker> how can I disable the kernel martian source check... I can't use important applications within a vpn connection...???
 bit tiresome to redo my GUI every boot
[21:30] <Vermux> rickest: sorry, I didnt know the minimal vim esists
[21:30] <emilsedgh> snirp: ..try updating or be patient for 4.1 release
[21:30] <hola> hi guys i've have a problem with sudo
[21:31] <rickest> Vermux: I didn't either until I got Kubuntu  :-)
[21:31] <snirp> emilsedgh: the following repository: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main
[21:31] <Vermux> rickest: now it works
[21:32] <emilsedgh> snirp: better place to ask that it is #kubuntu-kde4
[21:32] <Vermux> chemist109: it works now
[21:32] <snirp> ok, thx
[21:32] <Vermux> if I want to cancell temporary colors I syntax off doesnt work@!
[21:32] <rickest> Vermux: awesome, thanks for letting me know
[21:32] <Vermux> ok, it's good now
[21:33] <Vermux> it is working
[21:35] <The_zodiac> hi
[21:36] <The_zodiac> hola
[21:36] <rocko_> ﻿have problem with boot messages not coming up when I change the vga in menu.lst it worked in older releases does any body know of a fix?
[21:36] <The_zodiac> alguien???
[21:36] <The_zodiac> Spanglish
[21:36] <The_zodiac> ????
[21:36] <The_zodiac> good bye
[21:37] <rocko_> no spanish
[21:56] <julio23rj> teste
[21:56] <ybit> [Thu Jul 10 2008] [22:35:08] <ybit>	the font in my tty screens is WAY too large, how can i adjust it?
[21:56] <ybit> still wondering
[21:57] <ybit> also...
[21:57] <ybit> [Thu Jul 10 2008] [22:37:06] <ybit>	thirdly and probably lastly, i've connected a second standard monitor to this computer, but i can't get it out of clone mode. i selected the dual screen option, rebooted X server and Xserver wouldn't startup, so i rebooted and the same result, it wouldn't boot into anything. finally had to remove the monitor and to get it to boot into kdm
[21:57] <ybit> might have better luck just presenting two problems :)
[21:59] <hola> someone uses virtualbox?
[22:01] <rickest> yes
[22:06] <chemist109> hola: I do...
[22:06] <hola> chemist109: im not able to do work usd devices
[22:08] <chemist109> hola: This is a known problem.  You have to edit /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh  See here:http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-install-virtualbox-in-hardy-heron.html
[22:17] <gata> #kubuntues
[22:18] <gata> #kubuntu españa
[22:18] <gata> #kubuntu-es
[22:18] <terrestre> !es
[22:19] <oobe> what plugin do people use for apple trailers i have always used mplayerplugin but it doesnt seem to work are there any others
[22:21] <rickest> oobe: for .MOV?  I'm still using mplayerplug-in successfully afaik
[22:21] <oobe> ok ty
[22:21] <hola> chemist109: im using kubuntu
[22:22] <chemist109> hola: Should work the same as Ubuntu
[22:29] <jussi01> oobe: vlc here
[22:29] <jussi01> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc
[22:30] <bipolar> can anyone tell me where kdm stores the last user to login data?
[22:32] <oobe> jussi01, i ended up using mplayer i tried vlc for a sec but it said no video and then mplayer worked
[22:46] <GustavoUBV> HI
[22:46] <GustavoUBV> BYE
[23:22] <Sunbow> anyone knows what is the name of the font of this watch, in this picture: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=84403&file1=84403-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Arezzo
[23:32] <Chrysalis> looks to me like bold arial or some such
[23:42] <grzesio> polakos
[23:42] <grzesio> czy są
[23:43] <garrett_> hello I have a acer 3680 laptop with an Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter, I cannot get it to work
[23:44] <garrett_> has anyone been able to get this to work??
[23:49] <frojnd> I can ping my local hosts, but I can't ping the www.internet.net Any ideas what could be missed in /etc/network/interfaces ? Anyone ? I'm not so familiar with ubntu server...
[23:51] <rickest> frojnd: if you can ping your gateway but not past it then it's probably your gateway.  If you can't ping your gateway it's probably your 'gateway' setting or 'netmask'
[23:52] <rickest> frojnd: also, be sure you're pinging IPs instead of hostnames so you don't have to worry about DNS failing