[00:25] <matt__> hi folks, have just installed mythbuntu on a machine, anytime i try and start mythfronted, the screen apears almost as if the resolution is to hi or something, a kind of shadow affect that makes it imposible to read the stuff on the screen, is there anything in mythfrontend that could cause this? am using xfce4 for desktop, resolution is setto 1360x768@60 (usibng a 42" LCD)
[00:28] <matt__> xfce4 is working fine all other times, only problem is when i run mythfrontend, it was working fine prior to installing the ati drivers, but as i did a whole lot of other configuration at the same time, i cant tell what has casued the problem :(
[00:33] <zabbadapp> matt__: is it the same res when myth-fe has started? you can alt-tab to get a window from the desktop infront so you know ... and explain "shadow", are you using svhs video-out or something? :-)
[01:38] <Newguy> can i get myth running on a 1ghz p3, 768 megs of pc133, and a raden 9800se 128?
[01:40] <rhpot1991> cpu is a bit rough
[01:40] <Newguy> kinda what i was thinkin
[01:40] <rhpot1991> never gonna get HD out of that, but SD should be ok
[01:41] <Newguy> well all i really need is a box that'll play Dld video and some audio
[01:42] <Newguy> a decent 10 foot ui would be nice
[01:43] <rhpot1991> depends what codec your videos are in then
[01:43] <hads> Myth will do that although it is really designed to record/playback TV as it's main function
[01:43] <rhpot1991> install and give it a try
[01:44] <Newguy> sure, whynot
[06:27] <cmug> Hi, my problems yesterday were caused by the broadcast. the channel mythtv was tuning to automatically had some problems, so mythtv recorded a 0b file which caused an exception upon playback. Should I file a bug somewhere? probably to mythtv.org?
[06:53] <cmug> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/247467 filed
[11:55] <matt__> hi folks, have just installed mythbuntu on a machine, anytime i try and start mythfronted, the screen apears almost as if the resolution is to hi or something, a kind of shadow affect that makes it imposible to read the stuff on the screen, is there anything in mythfrontend that could cause this? am using xfce4 for desktop, resolution is setto 1360x768@60 (usibng a 42" LCD)
[11:55] <matt__> xfce4 is working fine all other times, only problem is when i run mythfrontend, it was working fine prior to installing the ati drivers, but as i did a whole lot of other configuration at the same time, i cant tell what has casued the problem :(
[11:55] <marl>  matt__ is now marl
[11:56] <marl> sorry had to swap machines there, not a good idea to use the computer ur trying to fix for irc
[11:57] <marl> i asked this one last night, but didnt get back to the machine
[11:57] <marl> i am using svga output to an lcd
[11:59] <marl> when i start mythfrontend, the screen goes funny, its almost like when u plug a monitor into a computer with the resolution set to hi
[12:00] <marl> if i try and alt-tab, i get the desktop but the screen is still the same
[12:18] <noisymime> Hi all, I'm doing a minimal frontend only installation and running into some problems. I have a very limited amount of disk space to install to (2gb, worked with 7.10) and ubiquity is crashing out when it runs out of space. I could understand if there's simply not enough room, but I noticed that even if I tell the installer *not* to install all the themes, it does it anyway, taking up a reasonable amount of space. Is this normal?
[12:20] <cmug> Does the windows version frontend work against a linux backend these days?
[13:06] <rhpot1992> cmug: it should, but I hear its bugy still and hard to build
[13:06] <rhpot1992> cmug: there is a player on the cd you can install on windows, works good
[13:51] <cmug> rhpot1991, cool, it would make my frontend machine building easier
[13:54] <jphillip> cmug well it plays videos, its not quite the same thing as the normal frontend though
[13:56] <cmug> jphillip, oh thats not what I need then
[13:56] <cmug> I can play movies with anything, I need something for livetv
[13:57] <jphillip> http://sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/
[13:57] <jphillip> there is a version that can do livetv, but its not the one that is on the disc
[13:58] <cmug> ok
[13:58] <cmug> would running mythbuntu on vmware as a frontend sound like a good plan?
[13:59] <jphillip> not really
[14:00] <ascu1> hi someon can help me? i can't get channels locked.
[14:00] <jphillip> will be slow and you don't get accellerated graphics
[14:01] <jphillip> ascu1 firewire or something else?
[14:01] <cmug> jphillip, true.. maybe i'll just build dual boot then
[14:01] <ascu1> usb artec t14br tuner
[14:02] <cmug> btw, isnt there supposed to be multirec support in 0.21? do I need to enable it somehow?
[14:02] <jphillip> its there, but depends on your hardware IIRC
[14:03] <cmug> ok, I need to read up on it at some point..
[15:13] <seacampbell> who moderates your website?
[15:18] <jphillip> seacampbell several people, why?
[16:23] <darthanubis> I just built a new box!
[16:23] <darthanubis> But I can't seem to adjust the video offset
[16:23] <darthanubis> I have onboard video until I can get a nvidia card
[16:23] <darthanubis> There is a small blue line at the top of the screen
[16:24] <darthanubis> I went into the frontend and tried to change the offset, but it did not seem to have an effect
[16:24] <darthanubis> thanks
[16:24] <darthanubis> I'll be back, still installing the system and rebooting
[16:48] <seacampbell> my company builds mythtv based media centers for our customers and we are looking to use mythbuntu so we would like to advertise on your website under pre-built systems
[16:53] <foxbuntu> seacampbell, what company is that?
[16:58] <seacampbell> MediaImpact
[17:00] <ascu1> how i can tune channel frequency with topfield 5100 signal over 90% in mythtv 48%
[17:02] <foxbuntu> seacampbell, well I cant make the call on behalf of the team, but what I will say is myself (Fox Media Systems) and Monolith Media Center both contribute to the project
[17:08] <seacampbell> foxbuntu, We can contribute with a combined 30 years of unix/linux experience in both networking and programming along with connection to vendors nation wide and an inside contact with Cable Labs.  We are more than happy to help support the project in any way possible.
[17:14] <foxbuntu> seacampbell, you have a link to your website?
[17:19] <seacampbell> www.mediaimpactlive.com
[17:44] <foxbuntu> seacampbell, what? wait a min, you dont sell them?
[17:44] <foxbuntu> they are essentially long term leases?
[17:52] <darthanubis> anyone have an Intel GMA 950?
[17:53] <darthanubis> My live viedo is worse than on my old box with a nvidia 6200?
[17:54] <darthanubis> same amount if ram, but faster ram dual channel now, dual core, and poorer video?
[17:56] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, change your deinterlace method in the frontend, its different requirements for different video cards
[17:57] <darthanubis> thx
[17:57]  * darthanubis deinterlace
[18:03] <darthanubis> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Deinterlacing
[18:03] <darthanubis> I don't see that screen anywhere in the frontend
[18:04] <darthanubis> Outdated: The information on this page may no longer be relevant to the current version of MythTV. DOH!
[18:07] <darthanubis>  In playback profiles under TV Settings, don't see that either
[18:10] <seacampbell> foxbuntu, what do you mean we dont seel them
[18:10] <seacampbell> "sell"
[18:12] <darthanubis> playback groups but there is no "playback profiles" under my tv settings
[18:12] <darthanubis> what gives?
[18:14] <darthanubis> foxbuntu, where is the "playback profiles" menu?
[18:21] <darthanubis> found it
[18:21] <darthanubis> changed it from cpu+ to normal
[18:21] <darthanubis> smooth video now
[18:21] <darthanubis> thx
[19:09] <seacampbell> to anyone interested in answering my question, feel free to email me at scampbell@mediaimpactlive.com
[19:21] <danielk22> where can i find the source packages for the ubuntu trunk builds of mythtv?
[19:21] <danielk22> ->"ubuntu builds of mythtv trunk"
[19:22] <danielk22> or better yet the svn for the packaging files?
[19:27] <gregL> danielk22: I don't think there is any yet..laga was going to do a build a week or so ago but for some reason didn't..
[19:28] <danielk22> I'm just looking for the latest debian directory so I can see what it takes to port to intrepid, I don't need something that actually compiles :)
[19:30] <gregL> Oh ok:  I would watch for laga or superm1 then..They seem to be pretty active here..
[19:31] <danielk22> thx
[22:07] <jimboprobs> Hi, I wsa "jimbo" a second ago but I think that nick was taken. I don't know if my message got through as I was booted the second I posted.
[22:09] <jimboprobs> I'll repost my question in case it didn't come through - apologies for double posting if it did.
[22:26] <KjetilK> jimboprobs: I didn't see any question
[22:27] <rhpot1991> same here
[22:36] <jimboprobs> I seem to get booted every time I post the question. Perhaps length. I'll split it into a few messages...
[22:36] <jimboprobs> Hi. I have been trying to get mythbuntu up and running and seem to have messed something up. After much wrestling I had got the DVB-T card installed and it scanned for channels and picked  nice few up. However when I clicked on "Watch TV" the screen went funny as if the resolution or frequency was wrong. (I'm trying to use my TV - I'm in the UK, so it's PAL).
[22:36] <jimboprobs> So, I tried to edit xorg.conf to change the monitor and screen settings to some likely looking ones I found on the web. I used ctrl-alt-bksp to close X and relogged in, and nothing had changed. I did a full system restart, an still nothing changed. So I looked at xorg.conf again and noticed that there was another complete set of monitor and screen settings at the bottom. I commented these out with #s and restarte
[22:36] <jimboprobs> That's when trouble hit - the screen constantly rolls to the point of being impossible to tell what it is. So I plugged in a monitor, edited xorg.conf to uncomment the lines, which I thought would resolve the problem. Unfortunately it hasn't. So, I can boot on the monitor, but not on the TV.
[22:36] <jimboprobs> Another couple of symptoms - when booting on the monitor it says that it's going into low graphics mode, and also it flashes up a few error messages that I don't think were there before, including one saying something like "no config found, looking for myth backend on UPnP". I hope that gives enough information about my problems - obviously I'll answer any questions if they'd be diagnostically useful.
[22:38] <KjetilK> ouch, do you know what the actual resolution of the monitor is?
[22:38] <KjetilK> is that PAL resolution?
[22:40] <jimboprobs> I was trying to use a normal (PAL) TV.
[22:41] <jimboprobs> When I'm using the monitor instead it seems to work more or less, apart from the symptom of saying it's going into low graphics mode on boot up
[22:43] <KjetilK> ok
[22:43] <KjetilK> I have no experience with normal TVs, I'm afraid...
[22:45] <KjetilK> I've seen a few displays that doesn't give the correct EDID information, though, but that's usually LCD TVs, not computer monitors, but that caused my Full HD TV to not use the full resolution
[22:45] <jimboprobs> Any idea why commenting something out then uncommenting it wouldn't put it back to its original situation?
[22:46] <KjetilK> hmmm, no, stuff like that is always tricky...
[22:47] <jimboprobs> I did try following some instructions that were to get EDID information - it said it couldn't get it, but I wasn't very surprised as it's a quite old standard def TV connected via SCART
[22:47] <KjetilK> usually, you can keep two sets of configs around, as long as you make sure the ServerLayout is OK
[22:48] <KjetilK> yeah, the TV probably won't have it
[22:49] <jimboprobs> well I think the original xorg.conf, before I started messing with it, had two sets of configs.
[22:49] <jimboprobs> I changed the first one and it made no difference, which is when I spotted the second set and commented them out
[22:50] <KjetilK> yup, that might well be
[22:50] <KjetilK> somewhere in xorg.conf, you'll find a Section "ServerLayout", which defines what part of the config actually is used
[22:55] <jimboprobs> Ah, yes. I hadn't made any changes to ServerLayout. On the off-chance that the PAL settings I found on the web were correct, I'll try pointing the ServerLayout at those and see what happens...
[22:56] <KjetilK> sounds like a good idea
[23:08] <jimboprobs> Tried that. No luck, I'm afraid...