[00:21] <luis> hello
[00:31] <luis> hello ...?
[00:31] <XJman> Hi
[00:34] <nate_> hello room, an anyone help me get my  new video card to work it has a vga and an svideo out?
[00:37] <nate_> the monitor works but the tv looks funny.
[00:38] <XJman> What type of card?
[00:38] <nate_> geforce fx 5200 its nvidia
[00:38] <luis> hello?
[00:38] <luis> I need help with a webcam
[00:39] <XJman> Have you upddated the driver nate_?
[00:40] <nate_> kinda i found a driver on nvidia's website, but im not sure how to install it xjman
[00:40] <luis> I have a simple question... where can I look for a driver for a genius webcam?
[00:40] <nate_> Xjman it is a .run
[00:41] <XJman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368&highlight=nvidia
[00:41] <XJman> I think that should get you on your way
[00:42] <nate_> thanks a lot Xjman
[00:43] <XJman> Hopefully that gets you started. I don't know a lot about the Nvidia, stuff as I've only installed and messed with an ATI card
[00:47] <vipex> yo!
[00:47] <luis> hi, I need helpt to find and install a driver for a genius webcam
[00:47] <vipex> How i can install one program what i downloaded ? On terminal?
[00:47] <luis> anyone'd like to help?
[00:48] <vipex> Umm sry
[00:48] <vipex> i cant:(
[00:48] <luis> :) I guess we're a litle bit lonely here
[00:48] <vipex> Yh,:D
[00:49] <luis> well vipex, have you tried using the comand sudo apt-get install?
[00:50] <luis> ok vipex, what kind of program have you downloaded?
[00:50] <__kamz> hello all
[00:50] <luis> hi
[00:51] <__kamz> how can i force kopete to use opera? systemsettings "default application" thing didn't work
[00:51] <vipex> oh sorry i was in shower luis:D
[00:52] <luis> that's ok
[00:52] <vipex> Umm i dont know what i put after the sudo apt-get install ___?
[00:52] <luis> well the name of the package you've downloaded
[00:53] <vipex> I cant find it :S
[00:53] <luis> for example , lets say you downloaded a package named "packX"
[00:53] <luis> to install it you should tipe: sudo apt-get install packX
[00:54] <vipex> I downloaded quake 3 arena demo  and when the download was ready i lost the package
[00:54] <luis> to get some hints about the use of the apt-get command you can tipe: man apt-get
[00:54] <luis> are you using kubuntu?
[00:54] <vipex> yh
[00:54] <luis> quake3 hm it might not work
[00:55] <vipex> its linux version
[00:55] <vipex> some1 said it works
[00:55] <luis> oh
[00:55] <vipex> i f u install from terminal
[00:55] <luis> well what's the name of the package?
[00:55] <vipex> wait
[00:56] <vipex> cant find:(
[00:57] <K350> Hi, I've installed a command-line system. On top of that I've installed kde-core, kdm and xorg. I alo installed langauge-selector, language-seletor-qt and language-selector-common. But I still can't change lanauge. Could anyone here help me with this?
[00:58] <vipex> When i downloaded quake 3 i losted immediately
[01:01] <ismael> Hola a todos! / Hi everyone!
[01:01] <afeijo> hi folks
[01:01] <afeijo> my keyboard disconfigured, where can I change it Im looking in System Config, but there I found only repetition stuff
[01:02] <ismael> mi internet works but conqueror doesn't surf, i dont know why ???
[01:03] <afeijo> what about that last kernel update?? I had several problems today!
[01:03] <afeijo> kompiz stoped work
[01:03] <afeijo> keyboard missconfigured
[01:04] <afeijo> :(
[01:12] <afeijo> I need my keyboard back to normal :((
[01:13] <afeijo> yeah, I found it!
[01:17] <afeijo> oh, how can I configure my linux to send emails thru my host smtp?
[01:35] <nate_> can some one give me the link for installing the latest nvidia drivers
[01:48] <jussi01> !envyng | nate_
[01:59] <stoneattic> I recently upgrade to 8.04 and bunch of things are now broken.  I can't sudo anymore  :(
[01:59] <stoneattic> it prompts for the user password and tells me that user is unknown to sudo
[02:02] <K350> leave
[02:02] <K350> leave
[02:04] <theFATMAN> what app do i use to capture streaming media?
[02:04] <theFATMAN> music in particular
[02:04] <theFATMAN> slow down guys i cant read that fast
[02:04] <stoneattic> is there anyway to "down grade" back to 7?
[02:06] <afeijo> heeeeeeelp
[02:06] <afeijo> I hit my calculator button
[02:06] <afeijo> now my screen is very zoomed!
[02:06] <afeijo> how to get back to normal ?
[02:07] <afeijo> any one??
[02:08] <afeijo> thats insane
[02:09] <afeijo> any one??
[02:09] <theFATMAN> afeijo: how did you do it
[02:09] <theFATMAN> what app do i use to capture streaming media?
[02:13] <rocko_> where is the iron guy?
[02:19] <F-u-z-z-Y> What file extension does a driver file have?
[02:19] <bradhex> Hi, receiving this error, please help: dpkg: error processing gyachi (--remove):  cannot remove `/.': Invalid argument. Running kubuntu 8.0.4
[02:20] <jmod> join: umbuntu
[02:23] <rocko_> ﻿ found a solution to my ubuntu boot messages problem not showing up http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/console-session-very-large-text-font-598857/?s=39a0a4fbd77795be66124a96db887f94
[02:24] <rocko_> ubuntu team is gay why did they have to disable it sooo annoying
[02:36] <UnKleRuckus> hello
[02:39] <Darkick> Hi everyone
[02:39] <Darkick> Um, I was just wondering if anyone could help me with a little problem I'm having
[02:40] <Darkick> When I open Amarok, I get a message saying "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers"
[02:40] <rocko_> what is your problem Darkick?
[02:40]  * Darkick points above :3
[02:41] <rocko_> how do you do that ﻿***Darkick points above :3
[02:41] <Darkick> Um, /me <text>
[02:42] <rocko_> ok I have always wonder but I do use the irc commands just didn't know which one did that
[02:42] <Darkick> Oh, mmk
[02:42] <rozen> Hey, How does one get the 4.0 KDE? I installed Kubuntu 8.04 and it started up with KDE 3. How can i get it to boot with KDE 4?
[02:42] <rocko_> thanks
[02:42] <Jucato> rozen: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[02:43] <rocko_> rozen: log out and change the session
[02:43] <rozen> Oh, Righto, My mistake!
[02:43] <Darkick> Does anyone know of a possible solution to my problem?
[02:43] <rocko_> Darkick: do you have sound?
[02:43] <Darkick> Yes and no
[02:43] <Darkick> I've been having some issues with my sound
[02:43] <Darkick> But it works now
[02:44] <Darkick> And the strange thing is, I used Amarok yesterday and I had no problems
[02:44] <rocko_> how did you try to fix the sound problem?
[02:44] <Darkick> A friend of mine suggested that it could be related to the OSS sound system that I had to switch to
[02:44] <Darkick> Oh, I fiddled with KMix
[02:44] <rocko_> I use alsa
[02:45] <Darkick> Hmm
[02:45] <rocko_> I only use free software free as in freedom not as in free beer
[02:45] <Darkick> hehe
[02:46] <rozen> What was the Channel again? For help with getting KDE4?
[02:46] <rocko_> most gnu/linux distributions come with non free software
[02:46] <rocko_> look up rozen
[02:46] <rozen> LOL Why thank you, Im just retarded.
[02:46] <rocko_>  /join ﻿#kubuntu-kde4
[02:47] <rozen> I got it.
[02:47] <rocko_> yup sometimes we forget we get do certain things
[02:47] <rozen> Yup. that we do.
[02:47] <Darkick> So, um, do you think the problem could have anything to do with the OSS sound system that I had to switch to?
[02:48] <rocko_> Darkick: maybe I use gnewsense and when I updated it I lost sound but I just got the drivers from alsa and compiled them for the sound card I have and now it works
[02:49] <Darkick> Hmmm
[02:49] <rocko_> you can do lspci to find out which sound card you have
[02:49] <Darkick> I just got that info, actually
[02:50] <Darkick> Lemme get it again
[02:50] <Darkick> One sec
[02:50] <rocko_> then look to see if your card is supported here http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[02:50] <Darkick> nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[02:51] <Darkick> Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems Unknown device 2601
[02:51] <Darkick> Those are the sound card listings in Sysinfo
[02:52] <Darkick> WHOA
[02:52] <Darkick> I just started up Amarok and it's working now :o
[02:52] <rocko_> cool so no problems
[02:53] <Darkick> You probably noticed, but I'm a Linux newb. I just got this new computer on Wednesday and installed Kubuntu
[02:53] <Darkick> I've had a friend teaching me a lot and trying to work through problems
[02:53] <Darkick> :P
[02:54] <Darkick> Anyway, thanks a lot!
[02:54] <rocko_> doesn't look like your card is supported by alsa
[02:55] <Darkick> Hmmm
[02:55] <Darkick> 'Cause Gizmo wasn't working right, and so my friend told me to try switching the system (in Gizmo configuration) to OSS
[02:56] <rocko_> but I would subspect that since nvidia does not release it's specs to the public
[02:56] <rocko_> ati does though
[02:57] <Darkick> Great... >.>
[02:57] <rocko_> thats why it is better to use the proprietary drivers with nvidia cards
[02:59] <rocko_> Darkick: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Nvidia
[02:59] <Darkick> This was the problem I was having with Gizmo
[02:59] <Darkick> http://tan-com.com/darkick/KMix5
[03:00] <Darkick> Gah
[03:00] <Darkick> >.<
[03:00] <Darkick> One sec
[03:01] <rocko_> could you pastebin the out put of your lspci?
[03:01] <rocko_> pastebin.com or pastebin.ca
[03:02] <rocko_> why did you paste a link to a binary file?
[03:02] <Darkick> I didn't mean to :P
[03:02] <Darkick> I was fixing it
[03:02] <Darkick> Here
[03:02] <Darkick> http://xrl.in/94v
[03:03] <Darkick> Erm
[03:03] <Darkick> >.>
[03:03] <Darkick> http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff51/yomamma_9_2007/KMix6.jpg
[03:04] <rocko_> not sure how to fix that problem
[03:04] <rocko_> I don't use gizmo
[03:05] <rocko_> do you own that site tan-com.com?
[03:05] <Darkick> No :\
[03:05] <Darkick> My friend
[03:05] <rocko_> o you from minnesota?
[03:05] <Darkick> No...
[03:06] <Darkick> Um, about that link you gave me
[03:06] <Darkick> What is that for?
[03:06] <rocko_> it is for your sound card
[03:06] <rocko_> for nvidia
[03:06] <Darkick> I don't see mine listed there
[03:06] <rocko_> your card is a HDA
[03:07] <Darkick> Yes
[03:07] <rocko_> so if your card is HDA and is an nForce-430 or later it will work
[03:07] <rocko_> what nvidia card do you have
[03:07] <Darkick> It;s nForce-430 I believe
[03:07] <Darkick> *It's
[03:08] <rocko_> then that sound work
[03:08] <rocko_> should
[03:08] <Darkick> What is that? I see a list of links but none are 430
[03:09] <rocko_> list of links for what?
[03:09] <rocko_> you click on Details for the how to do it
[03:09] <Darkick> oops
[03:10] <amdpenguin> Is kde4.1 Going to be stable?
[03:10] <rocko_> but if your sound works already then their might just be a bug with gizmo
[03:10] <smarty> help someone : I cant drag my windows anymore :( there is no option to close/minimize/max or the top bar to drag
[03:10] <psyco> type kwin --replace
[03:11] <psyco> as a command (atl f2)
[03:11] <smarty> i LOVE YOU
[03:11] <psyco> Does anyone know how to change the kubuntu loading splash?
[03:11] <psyco> XD
[03:11] <psyco> np
[03:11] <Dr_willis__> The KDE loadign splash youmean> or the bootsplash? befor you get to KDM
[03:12] <psyco> arggh I can't remember sex
[03:12] <psyco> sec*
[03:12] <psyco> i've been doing that typo a lot lately....
[03:12] <psyco> XD
[03:12] <Jucato> bad ones too
[03:12] <Jucato> psyco: which splash screen? before or after you log in?
[03:12] <AMDpenguin> How can i play DRM files?
[03:13] <psyco> After login.
[03:13] <Jucato> KSplash
[03:13] <psyco> Ok thanks.
[03:13] <smarty> lol
[03:13] <Jucato> !splash | psyco
[03:13] <psyco> :P
[03:14] <psyco> I totally don't have that.
[03:14] <smarty> wait a sec, psyco, after I hit the command, "kwin --replace" I get the stuff back, but when I exit, it disappears again
[03:14] <afeijo> I had several problems since last night when several updates was applied
[03:15] <psyco> Kmenu> Run command> kwin --replace
[03:15] <psyco> not in terminal
[03:15] <smarty> ooo
[03:15] <Jucato> smarty: if you write that in the terminal, you have to "kwin --replace &"
[03:15] <Jucato> psyco: KDE 3 or 4?
[03:16] <psyco> 3
[03:16] <psyco> Dont worry, I d/led ksplash
[03:16] <Jucato> it should be part of a default install
[03:17] <psyco> There would happen to be a system settings package with all these parts I didin't get?
[03:17] <psyco> I know.
[03:17] <psyco> XD
[03:17] <Jucato> in fact, you wouldn't have a splash screen without it
[03:17] <psyco> :S
[03:17] <psyco> I never noticed if I did or not.
[03:17] <Jucato> the location might be a bit wrong.. try using the search in System Settings
[03:17] <psyco> I did
[03:17] <smarty> jucato: same problem -- after i exit the terminal, it goes back to being draggable-less
[03:17] <psyco> nothing :P
[03:17] <Jucato> or just use "kcontrol" -> Appearance & Themes -> Splash Screen
[03:18] <psyco> It wasn't there until I installed ksplash
[03:18] <psyco> Sweet.
[03:18] <Jucato> weird
[03:18] <psyco>  All working.
[03:19] <afeijo> my kompiz stoped working
[03:19] <smarty> hmm
[03:20] <afeijo> you guys had problems with that last kernel updated?
[03:20] <psyco> afeijo: alt F2 compiz --replace   ?
[03:20] <afeijo> nops
[03:21] <afeijo> my middle button get back to a popup mouse stuff
[03:21] <tmbg> the kernel updates lately aren't adding entries to my grub menu, so I have the new kernels but haven't booted to one yet
[03:21] <psyco> Is there a Hamachi GUI for KDE with the chat feature? Quamachi doesn't have chat :(
[03:21] <afeijo> its safe to update to kde4?
[03:22] <smarty> i'd say so
[03:22] <Jucato> afeijo: it's safe, because you're not upgrading really
[03:22] <tmbg> !worksforme
[03:22] <Jucato> you're installing KDE 4 side by side with KDE 3. you can switch between the two
[03:22] <psyco> Is kde 4.1 out of beta yet?
[03:22] <afeijo> Jucato: how hard is it? just one command or more?
[03:23] <Jucato> !kde4
[03:23] <afeijo> I can switch? cool
[03:23] <psyco> walls
[03:23] <psyco> balls :P
[03:23] <afeijo> dalls
[03:23] <psyco> I wat 4.1. 4 was epic fail.
[03:23] <psyco> how'd you get that inverted b ??
[03:23] <afeijo> huauhahuahuahu, its call d
[03:23] <psyco> ;)
[03:24] <smarty> haha
[03:24] <psyco> !hamachi
[03:24] <psyco> >.>
[03:24] <smarty> lol
[03:24] <psyco> !quamachi
[03:24] <psyco> *sigh*
[03:24] <afeijo> !windows
[03:24] <afeijo> hahaha
[03:24] <smarty> LOL
[03:25] <afeijo> !DOS
[03:25] <afeijo> !gates
[03:25] <afeijo> !bomb gates
[03:25] <psyco> !afeijo
[03:25] <afeijo> hehe
[03:25] <smarty> haha
[03:25] <psyco> !penis
[03:25] <smarty> o_O
[03:25] <afeijo> !women
[03:25] <smarty> HAHA
[03:25] <psyco> rofl
[03:25] <mr---t-> !botabuse
[03:25] <psyco> wow
[03:25]  * afeijo disfarce
[03:26] <smarty> "Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids." LMAO
[03:26]  * psyco and smarty got owned.
[03:26] <afeijo> jokes are jokes! we need them
[03:26] <smarty> :)
[03:26] <afeijo> so, if I install kde4, how to get back to 3?
[03:26] <psyco> in the login screen
[03:27] <smarty> damn
[03:27] <psyco> session type
[03:27] <smarty> beet me to it
[03:27] <smarty> *beat
[03:27] <psyco> :P
[03:27] <psyco> Speedy fast.
[03:27] <smarty> :)
[03:27] <afeijo> at login? nice
[03:27] <smarty> yep
[03:27] <psyco> yup.
[03:27] <smarty> ALT  T
[03:27] <psyco> Its pretty hanfy.
[03:27] <smarty> Alt + T
[03:27] <afeijo> all current installed app will be on the kde4 menu?
[03:27] <psyco> handy*
[03:27] <psyco> yup
[03:27] <psyco> Plus some kde 4 apps.
[03:28] <psyco> YOu get these mega long menulists though >.>
[03:28] <afeijo> 4.1 beta anyone use?
[03:28] <psyco> I was too lazy  to get.
[03:28] <smarty> lol same
[03:29] <psyco> So... There is no hamachi GUI for KDE that has chat? :'(
[03:29] <afeijo> isnt easier to use adept to install kde4? lol
[03:29] <psyco> yup
[03:29] <afeijo> wow, 72 packages
[03:29] <smarty> :P
[03:30] <afeijo> ah, wth, hiting OK
[03:30] <psyco> heh
[03:30] <psyco> Does anyone know why my sound isn't working.
[03:30] <smarty> drivers maybe?
[03:30] <psyco> It can't initialize xine? or something
[03:30] <afeijo> compiz changed oh kde4?
[03:30] <psyco> it used to work.
[03:30] <smarty> oo
[03:30] <smarty> hmm
[03:31] <afeijo> ooooh, my new webcam didnt work
[03:31] <smarty> i know some updates can actually make hardware stop working
[03:31] <smarty> my CD drive randomly stopped once
[03:31] <smarty> (after an update)
[03:31] <psyco> :S
[03:31] <psyco> ok
[03:31] <afeijo> sad
[03:33] <afeijo> ok, kde4 installed.  I have to start another session?
[03:33] <rozen> Question, Why does my screen freeze when i try to do certin things? Like when i go to open Amarok from the system tray it freezes and only mah mouse works and i got to re-boot.
[03:34] <smarty> afeijo, reboot or logout
[03:34] <smarty> then choose your KDE4
[03:34] <smarty> from the menu optins
[03:34] <smarty> *options
[03:34] <smarty> or Alt + T
[03:39] <Feijo_BR> ok, I'm at kde4
[03:39] <Feijo_BR> but its in english, and the Add Language button dont work haha
[03:39] <smarty> ouch
[03:39] <smarty> brb
[03:43] <Feijo_BR> kde4 its on english only?
[03:45] <Feijo_BR> how to set kde3 as my default xwin?
[03:49] <martijn81> Feijo_BR: just login once from KWM and it will be the default (it will always use the last used session)
[03:49] <martijn81> Feijo_BR: well, no it is not but for some reason i am in the same condition here on kubuntu
[03:50] <martijn81> dunno it is someting with setting the locale
[03:50] <martijn81> every app has this issue here, vlc, firefox, ktorrent, all
[03:50] <martijn81> i am going for a reinstall here after the RC1 release
[03:50] <martijn81> dunno what you should do
[03:52] <Feijo_BR> ok thanks
[03:52] <martijn81> yw
[03:52] <Feijo_BR> when I finished installing kde4 from kde3 adept, it asked if I want to change default xwin to kde4, I did it.  My girl does not know english, hope it didnt changed for her
[03:53] <martijn81> well, KWM is not that hard to understand, but i guess it would be in English yes
[03:54] <Dr_willis__> Feijo_BR,  you sure it dident ask to change the default  'kdm' to be 'kdm4' ? thats just the login screen.
[03:54] <Feijo_BR> Dr_willis__: yeah it did, a big screen with good amount of text, a combobox to change to kde4, I selected that and hit OK
[03:55] <aldo_> what
[03:55] <Dr_willis__> kdm can store the last used session, as a 'default' you can change the session, from the sessions menu from the login screen
[03:55] <Dr_willis__> each user can have their own defaults.
[03:56] <psyco> does linux have a opengl glide wrapper?
[03:57] <martijn81> dunno psyco
[03:57] <martijn81> dunno what glide is
[03:57] <psyco> nvm they dont
[03:58] <Feijo_BR> ops, the kde button went to right, know I cant put it back to the left hahaha
[04:01] <martijn81> Feijo_BR: yeah, that kind of things are still hard to configure on kde4
[04:01] <jtmoney_> okay, i already asked in #compiz to no avail... i'm running kubuntu/ati proprietary, and whenever i try to launch compiz, it's trying to run on top of xgl... anyone know how i can force it to run on aiglx?
[04:01] <martijn81> but you can just delete a configure.rc file for it
[04:01] <Jucato> in a few weeks, it will be easy
[04:02] <Jucato> jtmoney_: I think the channel is #compiz-fusion ?
[04:02] <martijn81> yup ^^
[04:02] <jtmoney_> ahh, thanks
[04:02] <jtmoney_> wait, that's where i asked :)
[04:03] <Jucato> Feijo_BR: if you need to "move" a widget on the panel, remove it first, then from the Add Widgets dialog box, drag it and drop to the exact location you want to put it. don't click on the Add Widget button
[04:03] <martijn81> Jucato: how would a general user know this?
[04:03] <martijn81> lousy introduced feature IMHO
 in a few weeks, it will be easy
[04:04] <martijn81> ah ok :)
[04:04] <jtmoney_> oh whoops, maybe i installed fglrx instead of installing it manually... only the latest version of the binary supports aiglx with this card
[04:04] <martijn81> nothing said then
[04:04] <jtmoney_> :-X
 lousy introduced feature IMHO <-- what feature was introduced? there's no feature. it's still incomplete. that's been said like 1000 times or more
[04:16] <Feijo_BR> Jucato: cant do it, the first on the left is a program, when I drag there, the program come to the foreground
[04:18] <psyco> anyone know if yhe opengl renderer is a driver software thing and can be changed or is what ever your videocard is?
[04:18] <Dr_willis__> opengl can do hardware rendering
[04:20] <psyco> how do I find my Xorg version?
[04:21] <psyco> nvm
[04:22] <psyco> anyone wanna help me install ati drivers?
[04:23] <psyco> How do I run a .run? XD
[04:25] <psyco> nvm XD
[04:27] <Dr_willis__> installing the ati drivers from the downloadable .run files.. is not reccomdended. :) but good luck
[04:27] <Dr_willis__> !ati
[04:27] <plinio> what chanel ubuntu br ?
[04:27] <mr---t-> !br
[04:28] <plinio> THX
[04:28] <mr---t-> np
[04:30] <plinio> what forms extract .pkg arquive?
[04:30] <lnx> what is the name of hte package that have the kde developer tools ?
[04:30] <psyco> Dr_willis: Ty
[04:31] <plinio> pkg of solaris
[04:31] <plinio> extension .pkg
[04:32] <Betus> www.bibliadekubuntu.tk
[04:33] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> hi
[04:33] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> anyone there willing to help a new user?
[04:34] <Feijo_BR> how can plinio unpack files from a pkg file?
[04:34] <Feijo_BR> should he use tar?
[04:34] <psyco> Is it a bad thing that I have fglrx drivers on my 9200, and fglrx is for 9500 and up?
[04:34] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> Feijo, oi
[04:34] <Feijo_BR> oi
[04:34] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> c pode me ajuda?
[04:34] <lnx> what is the name of hte package that have the kde developer tools ?
[04:34] <Feijo_BR> ChotaZ|kUbuntu: I can try (posso tentar)
[04:35] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> i cant install new languages
[04:35] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> when i press Install new language
[04:35] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> nothing happens
[04:35] <Feijo_BR> kde4?
[04:35] <Feijo_BR> same here!!! Just installed kde4
[04:35] <Feijo_BR> probably a bug
[04:35] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> :\
[04:35] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> also
[04:35] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> do u user superkaramba
[04:36] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> ?
[04:36] <Betus> ChotaZ|kUbuntu:
[04:36] <Betus> !br
[04:36] <Feijo_BR> no
[04:37] <Feijo_BR> LinuxHldsUpdateTool_32.pkg
[04:37] <psyco> where is the restricted driver manager?
[04:38] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> feijo
[04:38] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> i just checked my kde version
[04:38] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> its 3.5.9
[04:39] <psyco> Ok guys. If I purge fgrlx and reboot what will happen??
[04:39] <Feijo_BR> ChotaZ|kUbuntu: in my kde 3 I didnt had that problem, dont know how to enforce a new language
[04:39] <Dr_willis> psyco,  in theory X would use the ati driver.
[04:40] <cyberponix> Is there a way to get the "cube" effect in 8.04?
[04:40] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> beryl?
[04:41] <cyberponix> yes
[04:41] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> just do it
[04:41] <Dr_willis> Beryl is dead.
[04:41] <cyberponix> how?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[04:41] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> how do i update my kde version?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[04:41] <psyco> Dr_willis: thanks
[04:42] <cyberponix> I have it installed however I can not figure out how to make my desktop go cube...
[04:42] <Dr_willis> install ccsm, enable cube effect.. check the key combo it needs.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> !cube
[04:43] <Dr_willis> and of course... :)
[04:43] <Dr_willis> !ccsn
[04:43] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:43] <lnx> when kde starts compiz starts also automatic how i can avoid this and return to kwin ?
[04:44] <Dr_willis> !find fusion
[04:44] <Dr_willis> I normally use the 'fusion-icon' program to controll it lnx.  But like the bot said perhaps in ---> from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects
[04:45] <cyberponix> do I need kde 4 for it to work?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> kde4 does NOT NOT NOT use compiz-fusion. :) it has its own eyecandy methods
[04:45] <cyberponix> isn't 8.04 kde 4 anyway?
[04:45] <lnx> Dr_willis its already on "no effects" compiz is running automatic in other way
[04:45] <Dr_willis> 8.04 has kde4 in the repos you can instgall if you wish.
[04:46] <cyberponix> ok so what is the diffrance between kde 4 and 3?
[04:46] <Dr_willis> lnx,  try kwin --replace then.. ?
[04:46] <Dr_willis> cyberponix,  about everthing. :)
[04:46] <cyberponix> good or bad lol
[04:46] <mr---t-> yes
[04:46] <lnx> Dr_willis its works but only for the current run i wany it to be always like this
[04:46] <Dr_willis> kde4 is a radical change from kde3.  Its the way kde will be in the future.
[04:46] <lnx> and not to start compiz on the sartup
[04:47] <psyco> Where is the restricted driver manager in kubuntu?
[04:47] <cyberponix> so if i run the install of that how much will I lose of what is on my comp now?
[04:47] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> !superkaramba
[04:47] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> anyone using superk?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> cyberponix,  if you install the kde4 desktop on your esixting isntall.. you wontlose anything
[04:48] <cyberponix> k sweet! thnx
[04:48] <cyberponix> does it have the beryl effects?
[04:48] <mr---t-> cyberponix: it's not called that in kubuntu it's called hardware drivers manager
[04:49] <cyberponix> I don't follow
[04:49] <mr---t-> sorry that was for psyco
[04:49] <cyberponix> ah lol
[04:50] <psyco> Thanks
[04:50] <mr---t-> np
[04:50] <cyberponix> would the upgrade to kde be able to be done in term? if so would it be sudo apt-get install kde4?
[04:51] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> sorry for this really noob question
[04:51] <lnx> there is aprogram (gui interface ) for digital camera for kde ?
[04:51] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> but how do i have session?
[04:51] <cyberponix> lol I am  linux noob
[04:51] <cyberponix> ^a
[04:52] <Dr_willis> !beryl
[04:53] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> !kubicaramba
[04:53] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> !liquid
[04:53] <psyco> This is confusing. DOes 9200 fit this?
[04:53] <psyco> The model of the card is in the 9xxx series, 9500 or higher, or it is in the X series (e.g. X300), or it has TV-Out capability. The 'fglrx' driver does not support cards earlier than the 9500
[04:53] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> !liquid-weather
[04:54] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> !lol
[04:54] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> !rofl
[04:54] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> that bot lacks  humor
[04:54] <cyberponix> lmfao
[04:54] <psyco> omg ya lol
[04:54] <psyco> :P
[04:54] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> i made a joke, great!
[04:54] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> xD
[04:55] <cyberponix> ChotaZ|kUbuntu: just so u know I have been using linux for about 4 months there is a lot to learn sorry about the noob type questions
[04:55] <psyco> !ati
[04:56] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> dude, ive been using linux since yesterday
[04:56] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> xD
[04:56] <cyberponix> yea...
[04:56] <ChotaZ|kUbuntu> no shit
[04:56] <cyberponix> this distro maybe
[04:56] <psyco> OMG THIS IS SO CONTRADICTORY you need 9500+   and I've read you need 9xxx
[05:00] <Jucato> !caps | psyco
[05:00] <Jucato> and doesn't 9xxx also cover 9500+?
[05:01] <lnx> how i can play flv in kaffine ?
[05:01] <psyco> That was my point.
[05:01] <psyco> I am almost crying.
[05:01] <ayram7> :'(
[05:03]  * Dr_willis for one has no clue what psyco  is ranting about...
[05:03] <ayram7>  someone can speak in Spanish?
[05:03] <psyco> The model of the card is in the 9xxx series, 9500 or higher, or it is in the X series (e.g. X300), or it has TV-Out capability. The 'fglrx' driver does not support cards earlier than the 9500
[05:03] <psyco> Does that include 9200 or not?
[05:03] <cyberponix> !spanish
[05:04] <ayram7> tanks! ;)
[05:04] <cyberponix> np
[05:06] <ayram7> Mmm...
[05:11] <ayram7> well ;)
[05:11] <smarty> questoin : is it possible to change your IP somehow?
[05:11] <l123luis> hola
[05:11] <l123luis> hi
[05:11] <smarty> wassup
[05:11] <l123luis> no speak spañish?
[05:12] <smarty> poco
[05:12] <l123luis> dont speak?
[05:12] <l123luis> ah ok
[05:12] <l123luis> what are you from?
[05:12] <smarty> usa
[05:12] <smarty> u
[05:12] <l123luis> Venezuela
[05:12] <l123luis> you have messenger?
[05:12] <smarty> cool
[05:12] <smarty> ya
[05:12] <l123luis> tienes messenger?
[05:13] <smarty> si
[05:13] <smarty> MSN
[05:13] <lionel_> hello everyone
[05:13] <smarty> y Yahoo
[05:13] <Jucato> !es
[05:13] <l123luis> squallleonard@hotmail.com
[05:13] <l123luis> add me
[05:13] <smarty> :)
[05:13] <l123luis> agreguenme
[05:13] <Jucato> !offtopic
[05:13] <l123luis> ok
[05:13] <smarty> lol having fun jucato?
[05:13] <l123luis> i go away!!
[05:13] <l123luis> :S
[05:14] <smarty> added
[05:14] <l123luis> ok
[05:14] <ayram7> Jajajajaja, pense que era el unico en hablar español
[05:14] <l123luis> jajaja
[05:14] <l123luis> nop
[05:14] <l123luis> XD
[05:14] <l123luis> de donde eres?
[05:14] <Feijo_BR> !es
[05:14] <l123luis> estas alli????
[05:15] <smarty> lol ya
[05:15] <smarty> so ya, anyone know how you can change the IP address?
[05:16] <ayram7> sorry
[05:16] <ayram7> me fui a la tiendita de la esquina
[05:16] <ayram7> XD
[05:17] <ayram7> ya regrese!
[05:17] <Jucato> again, this is an English channel. if you're going to stay and converse here, please speak in English. We have two channels for Spanish speaking people
[05:17] <ayram7> sorry
[05:17] <ayram7> i'm feel...
[05:17] <ayram7> hurt!!!
[05:17] <ayram7> XD
[05:18] <Betus> !es
[05:18] <ayram7> ok, tanks
[05:19] <CYREX> hello everyone
[05:19] <moshe> hi, how do i choose which jdk/jre will be used during session?
[05:24] <tsunami> ay algun correo para linux'
[05:24] <CYREX> hello i cant get my smartax mt 882 router adsl to work via usb
[05:24] <CYREX> como asi
[05:24] <tsunami> asy dejo de usar el de hotmail
[05:24] <Jucato> !es
[05:24] <tsunami> bueno grasias
[05:24] <l123luis> holaaa
[05:24] <l123luis> como estan?
[05:24] <tsunami> luis
[05:24] <CYREX> tsunami escribe /join ·ubuntu-es o kubuntu-es para hablar alla en espanol
[05:25] <l123luis> dime?
[05:25] <tsunami> no sabes que correo puedo usar en ves de el de hotmail
[05:25] <l123luis> puedes usaar gmail
[05:25] <Jucato> ugh!
[05:25] <l123luis> o yahoo
[05:25] <tsunami> si ya tengo pero no ay uno de linux'
[05:26] <l123luis> vertale no se
[05:26] <tsunami> uso el navegador opea
[05:26] <l123luis> yo soy novato en linux
[05:26] <tsunami> opera
[05:26] <Jucato> !es | tsunami, l123luis
[05:26] <l123luis> siempre he usado windows
[05:26] <tsunami> y no puedo abrir el correo de hotmail
[05:26] <l123luis> en kopete puedes abrir tu correo
[05:26] <l123luis> koete es un programa
[05:26] <tsunami> y que te parese el linux' luis
[05:26] <l123luis> kopete
[05:27] <lampe> hello
[05:27] <Jucato> ugh!
[05:27] <l123luis> me gusta pero a la vez me da rabia
[05:27] <Jucato> l123luis and tsunami: English please!!!
[05:27] <tsunami> sii ami tambien
[05:27] <l123luis> me da rabia porq no lo se usar muy bien
[05:27] <l123luis>  soy un novato en esto
[05:27] <l123luis> XD
[05:28] <tsunami> bueno da algunos problemas pero con pasiensa todo se puede
[05:28] <rocko_> ﻿hipo ubuntu problem when I try to run hipo I get this problem unable to open the session message bus : Argument cannot be null. parameter name : address Details http://pastebin.com/m174638d4
[05:28] <l123luis> kien tiene myspace???
[05:28] <smarty> !es
[05:28] <l123luis> www.myspace.com/darkfurius
[05:29] <tsunami> ya estoy en el canal español
[05:30] <l123luis> kubuntu.es??
[05:30] <mr---t-> 1ES | tsunami
[05:30] <l123luis> dios!!!
[05:30] <tsunami> si
[05:30] <Jucato> l123luis: #kubunt-es
[05:30] <mr---t-> !es | tsunami
[05:30] <CYREX> jeje no
[05:30] <ayram7> Canal Oficial de Soporte de Ubuntu en Español | Lista de Correo → https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/list...
[05:30] <l123luis> como istalo un programa es linux????
[05:30] <tsunami> es
[05:30] <ayram7> canal en español
[05:30] <CYREX>  escribe /join #kubuntu-es
[05:30] <rocko_> vi estas bela
[05:30] <CYREX> y luego abajo te saldra una etiqueta con eso
[05:30] <l123luis> jaja
[05:30] <tsunami> bueno
[05:30] <l123luis> ok
[05:31] <CYREX> los espero alla
[05:31] <smarty> !es
[05:31] <rocko_> ﻿﻿hipo ubuntu problem when I try to run hipo I get this problem unable to open the session message bus : Argument cannot be null. parameter name : address Details http://pastebin.com/m174638d4
[05:31] <l123luis> vamos a agregarnos en messenger
[05:31] <l123luis> si??
[05:31] <l123luis> que dicen?
[05:31] <tsunami> umm bueno
[05:31] <l123luis> agreguenme si kieren mi msn es squallleonard@hotmail.com
[05:31] <ayram7> there are very much people speak spanish here!!!
[05:32] <Jucato> This is NOT a Spanish channel
[05:32] <ayram7> Canal Oficial de Soporte de Ubuntu en Español | Lista de Correo → https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/list...
[05:32] <tsunami> el_tsunami@hotmail.com
[05:32] <ayram7> i know
[05:32] <tsunami> jucato no se como mierda pasarme al canal español
[05:32] <ayram7> Canal Oficial de Soporte de Ubuntu en Español | Lista de Correo → https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/list...
[05:32] <ayram7> here
[05:32] <Jucato> !es | tsunami
[05:32] <ayram7> you don't be bad
[05:33] <tsunami> a ya esta
[05:33] <l123luis> ok
[05:33] <CYREX> ubottu el esta tratando de pasarse dejame ayudarlo
[05:33] <l123luis> hi
[05:33] <mr---t-> Jucato:  kick them please?
[05:33] <tsunami> chau
[05:33] <l123luis> chao
[05:33] <CYREX> ubottu i love u
[05:33] <Jucato> one last time
[05:33] <l123luis> alguien tiene myspace?
[05:33] <CYREX> ubottu give me a hug
[05:33] <ayram7> this is not a spanish chanel, enter here Canal Oficial de Soporte de Ubuntu en Español | Lista de Correo → https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/list...
[05:33] <Jucato> stop playing with the bot CYREX
[05:33] <l123luis> www.myspace.com/DarkFurius
[05:33] <tsunami> ya lo encontre grasias por la paciensa amigos
[05:33] <CYREX> hehe oki
[05:33] <l123luis> que encontraste?
[05:35] <ayram7> mr. luis enter here, this is a spanish chanel ---> Canal Oficial de Soporte de Ubuntu en Español | Lista de Correo → https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/list...
[05:37] <CYREX> anbody by a small change is using the smartax modem adsl mt882
[05:37] <l123luis> hablen!!!!
[05:39] <l123luis_> lalalalalalala
[05:41] <ayram7> Canal Oficial de Soporte de Ubuntu en Español | Lista de Correo → https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/list...
[05:42] <Jimmmy1> Hey guys im just after a burning program ! im trying to make a mp3 cd but it doesnt work. can any1 recommend anything for me
[05:43] <EnMasse187> guys when someone says
[05:43] <EnMasse187> or asks me
[05:43] <EnMasse187> do i like mudkipz
[05:43] <EnMasse187> wtf am i supposed to say?
[05:43] <Jimmmy1> say yes
[05:43] <CYREX> say wtf is mudkipz
[05:43] <rocko_> ﻿﻿﻿hipo ubuntu problem when I try to run hipo I get this problem unable to open the session message bus : Argument cannot be null. parameter name : address Details http://pastebin.com/m174638d4
[05:43] <CYREX> jk
[05:43] <EnMasse187> i just said
[05:43] <EnMasse187> that cyrex
[05:43] <CYREX> hhahahah
[05:44] <CYREX> oki masse what distro do you use
[05:44] <peixoto> jimmmy1: have you tried k3b ?
[05:44] <Jimmmy1> yeh doesnt work
[05:44] <peixoto> What is the error ?
[05:44] <Jimmmy1> i play them and then select it to burn but it doesnt recodnise it
[05:45] <rocko_> ﻿﻿﻿hipo ubuntu problem when I try to run hipo I get this problem unable to open the session message bus : Argument cannot be null. parameter name : address Details http://pastebin.com/m174638d4
[05:45] <peixoto> How exactly do you "select them to burn" ?
[05:45] <Jimmmy1> umm let me have a look
[05:46] <CYREX> well in k3b you just grab them, drag them, burn them
[05:46] <peixoto> I am just asking because k3b is the best burner I know (ven better than nero IMHO)
[05:46] <CYREX> well you got brasero also
[05:46] <CYREX> no better yet let me give you a list
[05:47] <peixoto> yah, I knew brbasero, but I am an kde guy :-)
[05:48] <Jimmmy1> i slect all the files and then chose make cd then i do the drag and drop and it then says "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:'
[05:48] <peixoto> gotta go sleep, wife is  calling :-) jimmy1, good luck, sorry I cant help you
[05:48] <Jimmmy1> ok ill wait 8 hrs till you get up
[05:48] <Jimmmy1> :)
[05:49] <mr---t-> !restricted formats
[05:49] <rocko_> ﻿﻿﻿hipo ubuntu problem when I try to run hipo I get this problem unable to open the session message bus : Argument cannot be null. parameter name : address Details http://pastebin.com/m174638d4
[05:49] <rocko_> xvid vorbis speex theora flac
[05:50] <rocko_> use gnewsense
[05:53] <psycholic> hello i'm having some problems installing this media vault any one have time to help out
[05:58] <Slurb> whos alive
[05:58] <Slurb> im taking a poll
[05:58] <Slurb> so thats none
[05:59] <mr---t-> !ask
[06:00] <Slurb> !tell
[06:00] <Slurb> lol
[06:00] <mr---t-> !lol
[06:00] <Slurb> !sex
[06:04] <Jucato> Do not play with the bot
[06:04] <mr---t-> me?
[06:05] <cosmo_> hit close window instead of minimize
[06:05] <Jucato> mr---t-: nope. but that goes for everyone
[06:06] <mr---t-> I was just trying to keep things civil
[06:06] <mr---t-> Jucato: thanks
[06:06] <mot_> jesus
[06:06] <mot_> relax
[06:06] <mot_> calm the fuck down
[06:06] <mot_> it's just linux.
[06:07] <Jucato> !language > mot_
[06:07] <mot_> i'm watching my language.
[06:07] <mot_> what's wrong with a big of cursing?
[06:07] <mr---t-> what is going on tonight invasion of the twelve year olds
[06:07] <Jucato> it's wrong in this channel
[06:07] <mot_> s/big/bit
[06:07] <mot_> it's wrong?
[06:07] <mot_> it's wrong, or you don't like it?
[06:08] <mot_> i wouldn't really say it's "wrong" per se, would you?
[06:08] <mot_> mr---t-, twelve year olds? dude, i'm an officer in the navy. please, don't patronize me.
[06:08] <Jucato> "wrong in this channel" means it's not permitted in this channel. I could care less if you think it's wrong per se
[06:08] <mot_> you couldn't* care less.
[06:09] <mot_> if you could care less, then you could actually care less. if you couldn't care less, then that denotes that it's not possible for you to care less. yes?
[06:09] <Jucato> could, couldn't. doesn't really matter to me
[06:09] <mot_> well, that about sums up what's wrong with america today.
[06:09] <Jucato> good. glad I'm not there
[06:09] <mot_> here i am sitting on a boat 4600 miles away
[06:09] <mot_> and you couldn't care less.
[06:10] <p_quarles> can we keep this channel on topic? you know, tech support?
[06:10] <Jucato> yep. enough of that
[06:10] <mr---t-> plz
[06:10] <mot_> oh, i'm sorry. you're in the phillipines.
[06:10] <mot_> another de-facto colony of the US. my bad, i'd almost forgotten.
[06:10] <mot_> yes, let's keep the channel on topic
[06:10] <mot_> i'd hate to state the obvious.
[06:11] <Jucato> whatever
[06:12] <mot_> yessum.
[06:17] <hacksilber> i installed xen for a 64bit version of ubuntu and now my networking is borked
[06:17] <hacksilber> this was done from repos
[06:18] <hacksilber> can someone kindly help me with this
[06:20] <aakash> hey guys, i need a mail client (like balsa or Konttact) for KDE4 and a google talkapp for KDE4
[06:20] <aakash> anyone know any?
[06:21] <hacksilber> smarty: you use the voice on google talk?
[06:22] <hacksilber> smarty: i just use thunderbird for kde4
[06:22] <Jucato> kmail (KDE 4.1.. in a few weeks though)
[06:22] <Jucato> though not sure Kopete KDE 4 can do Google Talk for now
[06:23] <smarty> my apologizes
[06:23] <smarty> slight error
[06:23] <smarty> okay, regarding Kopete: no gtalk
[06:23] <smarty> and thunderbird
[06:24] <smarty> there is a KDE4 ver?
[06:24] <Jucato> yes. KDE 4.1 has kdepim.
[06:24] <Jucato> but 4.1 won't be released until around the end of July
[06:24] <smarty> ah, ok
[06:32] <bjb_nyj101> Hello?
[07:13] <luis> hellooooooo
[07:13] <luis> I need help
[07:36] <noaXess> !backup
[07:36] <noaXess> !backup
[08:21] <Colonel_Panic> hey can anybody tell me how to upgrade wine to v1.0?
[08:21] <Colonel_Panic> I'm running Hardy
[08:21] <Colonel_Panic> I currently have v 0.9.59
[08:22] <Colonel_Panic> there doesn't seem to be anyone alive in #winehq
[08:23] <ere4si> if the version of wine is not the latest you'll have to d/load it from wine - there'll be install inastructions on the site
[08:24] <SilentDis> hello :)
[08:24] <luca_b> Colonel_Panic: there are *buntu packages on the WINE web page
[08:24] <SilentDis> i'd like to start using KDE4, but filling in all the settings from stuff like kopete, wallet, kppp, etc bugs me.  I've got the packages installed, is there any way to 'port over' the settings?
[08:25] <luca_b> SilentDis: that's for the distros to do I think. Currently I reconfigured everything
[08:25] <icheyne> SilentDis: I just stick with the defaults as far as possible - saves time when reinstalling :)
[08:25] <luca_b> SilentDis: and what version of KDE would you be using?
[08:26] <SilentDis> luca_b: I'm currently on KDE 3.5.9, Kubuntu 8.04.
[08:26] <luca_b> SilentDis: I meant which KDE 4 flavor
[08:27] <luca_b> 4.0.x or the yet-to-be-released 4.1
[08:27] <SilentDis> luca_b: oh!  latest from the ubuntu repos, let me dbl check...
[08:27] <luca_b> SilentDis: that's 4.0.x then
[08:28] <SilentDis> luca_b: aye, 4.0
[08:28] <SilentDis> would it be bad to just ln ~/.kde to ~/.kde4?
[08:28] <luca_b> SilentDis: I never tried it
[08:29] <luca_b> but for sure some desktop settings won't work
[08:29] <luca_b> as kicker and kdesktop are no more
[08:30] <SilentDis> luca_b: alright, i'll try just copying stuff over from ~/.kde to ~/.kde4 for the main programs i use, and see what happens :)
[08:30] <luca_b> SilentDis: don't use kdepim (kmail, etc) from 4.0.x
[08:30] <luca_b> it's horribly broken
[08:30] <SilentDis> ahh, alright, thanks for the warning on that one.
[08:30] <luca_b> kmail and co are ready in 4.1
[08:31] <luca_b> but in 4.0.x they weren't even officially shipped
[08:31] <SilentDis> alright, thanks for the heads up :)
[08:32] <SilentDis> I *think* it's safe to link amarok rather than copy it, as those setting should stay the same.
[08:33] <ayram7> regrese
[08:33] <luca_b> SilentDis: amarok will use .kde
[08:33] <luca_b> SilentDis: the KDE4 version is still in alpha
[08:34] <SilentDis> luca_b: ahh, good.  yeah, i mucked with the nightlies... call me timid, but i rather like how it 'just works'.  I am just not a beta tester lol
[08:35] <luca_b> SilentDis: just to make sure you know what to expect
[08:35] <SilentDis> luca_b: i expect different and def. not the same as KDE3.  I will not judge KDE4 based upon that which i am used to :)
[08:37] <SilentDis> alright, bbiab.  here goes :)
[08:39] <umanet> есть кто живой?
[08:39] <umanet> пуэуэроуэдрокхрокезрк
[08:39] <umanet> унркерко
[08:39] <umanet> енолноу
[08:39] <umanet> еноуен
[08:39] <umanet> о
[08:39] <umanet> eryj
[08:39] <umanet> уно
[08:39] <ere4si> !ru
[08:39] <umanet> ноук
[08:39] <umanet> нр
[08:39] <umanet> ценгнь
[08:39] <umanet> п
[08:39] <umanet> ук
[08:39] <umanet> рцкоен
[08:39] <umanet> ло
[08:39] <umanet> ншлрое
[08:40] <umanet> р
[08:40] <umanet> ке
[08:40] <umanet> о
[08:40] <umanet> нолео
[08:40] <umanet> Привет! Русские есть?
[08:40] <The-Compiler> !ru | umanet
[08:40] <umanet> я уже был там
[08:41] <umanet> не помогли
[08:41] <ere4si> well it's not russian then
[08:42] <The-Compiler> ere4si: it is russian
[08:43] <ere4si> The-Compiler: k
[08:46] <The-Compiler> ere4si: ah, he asked if russians are there, and he said "I was there, nobody could help"
[08:46] <ere4si> The-Compiler: it must be nice to be multilingual :)
[08:47] <The-Compiler> ere4si: google translator xD
[08:47] <ere4si> hehe
[08:48] <kedar> hi, I installed kubuntu 8.04.1 right now using the live cd -- resized my windows partition. it installed fine, but now when I try to boot windows from Grub, it hangs after getting to the login screen. Any pointers ?
[08:48] <kedar> help appreciated
[08:48] <The-Compiler> kedar: after getting to the windows-login-screen?
[08:49] <kedar> The-Compiles: Just before it.
[08:55] <The-Compiler> kedar: okay, thats strange... From the point on, on which Windows is loaded, Ubuntu should nothing have to do with it.
[08:57] <ere4si> kedar: did you defrag the windows install before resizing?
[09:01] <kedar> The-Compiler: I know that is strange. I may have to run a safe boot right now and check the disks
[09:01] <kedar> ere4si: I didn't. Maybe that screwed it up. Let
[09:01] <kedar> *Let's see
[09:02] <ere4si> good luck :)
[09:06] <rozen> Man, Im new to Kubuntu, but holy shit, I love how fast torrents are.
[09:07] <rozen> 140 kb/s in like 2 min.
[09:07] <rozen> <3
[09:09] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[09:09] <U99999>  为什么我的8.04没有演示上那个满屏飞花的效果?
[09:10] <eagles0513875> !ch
[09:10] <eagles0513875> !chinese | U99999
[09:10] <eagles0513875> :)
[09:11] <U99999> eagles0513875:Thank you very much!
[09:11] <eagles0513875> U99999: no prob
[09:17] <SilentDis> hello :)
[09:17] <eagles0513875> hello
[09:17] <SilentDis> I'm working on switching over to KDE4.0 from KDE3.5.9 on Kubuntu 8.04.  I'd like to swap over the login manager, I assume there's some dpkg-reconfigure magic I need to work here, or just a setting i'm missing?
[09:18] <eagles0513875> SilentDis: might want to go into #kubuntu-kde4
[09:18] <SilentDis> okeydokey :)
[09:18] <eagles0513875> in all honesty havent used kde4 that much
[09:19] <SilentDis> nor have i, but it's got a rather nice look, and i'd like to experiment with it :)
[09:19] <eagles0513875> SilentDis: be warned
[09:19] <eagles0513875> there is still some functionality missing
[09:20] <eagles0513875> im not sure if 4.1 beta 1 or 2 what ever they r on has addressed the missing functionality
[09:20] <SilentDis> eagles0513875: I'm aware of that.  I've still got access to my KDE3 apps, of course, and I can always swap back if the mood strikes me :)
[09:20] <eagles0513875> ok lol just making sure
[09:21] <SilentDis> rule number 1: always have an escape route. :D
[09:22] <eagles0513875> lol true that
[09:22] <eagles0513875> ibex is out for alpah testing isnt it
[09:22] <SilentDis> bit of a sound issue going on right now, and i accidently left KPPP3 connected when i logged out (EVDO 'net connection), besides, uptime isn't everything.  gonna reboot right quick, bbiab if I need any other hints and suggestions :)
[09:22] <eagles0513875> SilentDis: there is another way u can try out kde4
[09:25] <Seren__> hi since the bind update, I got an issue with knetwork manager, it doesn't find my LAN until I do "sudo dhclient", any ideas on how to fix that ?
[09:26] <eagles0513875> Seren__: your not using static ips right
[09:27] <Seren__> I am
[09:27] <hola> what can i use in order to see the dvt-b
[09:28] <eagles0513875> Seren__: im guessing youre connected through a router
[09:28] <Seren__> eagle, that's right
[09:28] <Seren__> and the router adress is 192.168.0.254
[09:28] <Seren__> but it used to work out from the box
[09:29] <eagles0513875> Seren__: is bind still configured the way u had it
[09:29] <eagles0513875> prior to the update
[09:30] <Seren__> eagle : I have not changed anything, I probably installed the new defaut configuration
[09:30] <eagles0513875> Seren__: thats probably what happened do you have a backup of the old conf
[09:31] <Seren__> nope but I can have a look and try to find out what changed
[09:31] <Seren__> thanks for the tips
[09:33] <eagles0513875> Seren__: wish i could be of more help
[09:34] <eagles0513875> Seren__: i got a suggestion for ya
[09:34] <eagles0513875> Seren__: might want to keep a backup of the conf that way you have something to go on on what u configured and what not
[09:48] <kalel> !it
[09:48] <orgthingy> Kubuntu is KDE version of Ubuntu, right?
[09:49] <bazhang> orgthingy, kde on kubuntu gnome on ubuntu
[09:50] <orgthingy> ah, I see
[09:50] <orgthingy> thanks
[09:50] <orgthingy> (and what about xfce?)
[09:50] <bazhang> xubuntu orgthingy
[09:50] <orgthingy> ah, i see
[09:56] <eagles0513875> hey all anyone having an issue with ff3 after the update
[09:56] <surais> hi all !
[09:56] <eagles0513875> hi
[09:57] <orgthingy> what issue
[09:57] <orgthingy> details please :)
[09:58] <eagles0513875> orgthingy: i ran sudo apt-get upgrade and there was an upgrade for the flash nonfree plugin
[09:58] <eagles0513875> didnt try anythign flash related after it but i uninstalled ff2
[09:59] <eagles0513875> im not sure if this is related to the pkg upgrade for flash nonfree or to me removing ff2
[09:59] <eagles0513875> ill let u know in a bit here
[09:59] <eagles0513875> *you
[09:59] <orgthingy> hmmm
[09:59] <eagles0513875> still not working
[10:00] <orgthingy> you can ask in firefox channel (forgot what network, google)
[10:00] <eagles0513875> same network btw
[10:01] <eagles0513875> orgthingy: #firefox
[10:02] <orgthingy> well, there's the "official" firefox channel
[10:03] <eagles0513875> thats not the official channel
[10:04] <eagles0513875> orgthingy: found the official channel
[10:05] <orgthingy> :)
[10:05] <eagles0513875> orgthingy: irc.mozilla.org
[10:06] <orgthingy> aha, yes yes
[10:06] <eagles0513875> orgthingy: wish me luck seems rather dead in there
[10:07] <orgthingy> yea
[10:07] <orgthingy> just wait
[10:07] <orgthingy> theyll answer you
[10:07] <eagles0513875> k
[10:16] <lasse> Hi how di i install firefox 3 safely in Kubuntu 8.04 by using adept?
[10:16] <lasse> Wich repository?
[10:16] <eagles0513875> lasse: in command line type sudo apt-get install firefox3
[10:17] <lasse> thx will try give u feed back
[10:17] <eagles0513875> lasse: no prob
[10:18] <lasse> result coud'nt find package firefox 3
[10:19] <lasse> I ve missing something
[10:19] <eagles0513875> lasse: type apt-cache search firefox
[10:19] <ere4si> firefox 3 is just labelled firefox in hardy isn't it?
[10:20] <eagles0513875> nope
[10:20] <eagles0513875> acutally
[10:20] <eagles0513875> wait yes it is
[10:20] <eagles0513875> lasse: he is right type in sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:20] <lasse> oki
[10:20] <eagles0513875> my bad
[10:21] <lasse> no i dont thing u bad reading som output , w8
[10:21] <eagles0513875> lasse: ?
[10:22] <lasse> yep it talks alot of broken dependencys and broken packages
[10:23] <lasse> Some master repository reset possible?
[10:24] <eagles0513875> lasse: try run a sudo apt-get update and see if that helps at all
[10:24] <ere4si> lasse: which mirror are you using?
[10:25] <lasse> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu hardy main
[10:25] <lasse> deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[10:25] <lasse> deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[10:25] <lasse> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[10:25] <lasse> ## distribution.
[10:25] <lasse> deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[10:25] <lasse> deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[10:25] <lasse> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[10:26] <lasse> ## repository.
[10:26] <lasse> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[10:26] <lasse> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[10:26] <lasse> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[10:26] <lasse> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[10:26] <lasse> ## team.
[10:26] <lasse> deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[10:26] <lasse> deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[10:26] <lasse> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[10:26] <lasse> ## repository.
[10:26] <lasse> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[10:26] <lasse> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[10:26] <lasse> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[10:26] <lasse> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[10:26] <lasse> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[10:27] <lasse> # deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:27] <lasse> # deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:27] <lasse> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[10:27] <lasse> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[10:27] <lasse> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[10:27] <lasse> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[10:27] <lasse> oop s
[10:27] <eagles0513875> !pastebin | lasse
[10:28] <ere4si> lasse: where's se?
[10:29] <lasse> sorry didnt know
[10:29] <eagles0513875> its ok
[10:29] <ere4si> lasse: I would edit /etc/apt/sources.list and use the us mirrors as a first shot
[10:31] <lasse> oki tries and returns with info
[10:31] <eagles0513875> im having an issue with flash in hardy and ff3
[10:33] <ere4si> I had thaat many issues with ff3 that I installed ff2...
[10:33] <eagles0513875> i have both ff3 and 2 installed at same time
[10:35] <eagles0513875> ere4si: can you possibly help me remedy the situation
[10:35] <ere4si> eagles0513875: I gave up on ff3 - sorry
[10:36] <ere4si> eagles0513875: there is #firefox...
[10:37] <eagles0513875> already there
[10:40] <eagles0513875> can anoyen help me with ff3 and flash
[10:40] <eagles0513875> im having an issue where any flash videos dont play at all im on hardy 64 bit
[10:41] <ere4si> !flash64 | eagles0513875
[10:41] <eagles0513875> ere4si: thanks
[10:41] <ere4si> np :)
[10:42] <eagles0513875> ere4si: guessing remove the version 10
[10:43] <ere4si> eagles0513875: your guess is better than mine - I don't use 64bit...
[10:45] <lasse> Hi again eagles is it possible to view a png file similar to paste bin?
[10:45] <lasse> changed sources.list to us and repopulated but when choosing firefox it is 1.5 and patched
[10:46] <lasse> newly installed 8.0.4
[10:46] <eagles0513875> O_o
[10:46] <lasse> Better to reinstall to 7.10
[10:46] <eagles0513875> lasse: open up adept and under adept there is manage repositories change it from there
[10:47] <lasse> done so paste 26858
[10:50] <eagles0513875> ere4si: is firefox in repos 32bit
[10:50] <lasse> Yes running 32 bit
[10:50] <ere4si> eagles0513875: I think most apps are - that's why I don't do 64bit yet
[10:51] <VipeX> Hi
[10:51] <eagles0513875> hi
[10:52] <ere4si> lasse: after changing the mirror you need to do an   sudo apt-get update
[10:52] <eagles0513875> ere4si: this is the first time im having any issues
[10:53] <ere4si> eagles0513875: there's been a couple of people on #ubuntu with the same issue - it seems the latest flash update isn't so flash...
[10:53] <eagles0513875> great
[10:53] <eagles0513875> is 9 still in repos
[10:54] <ere4si> apt cache search will tell
[10:54] <eagles0513875> ere4si: doesnt tell the version
[10:55] <eagles0513875> ere4si: going to try mozilla-plugin-gnash
[10:55] <ere4si> eagles0513875: good luck
[10:55] <eagles0513875> ere4si: ty
[10:56] <lasse> eagles: done paste 26860 and restarted adept, wise to give up and reinstall 7.10 toget firefox 3 at this time?
[10:56] <ere4si> !tab | lasse
[10:57] <eagles0513875> lasse: :(
[10:57] <lasse> thanks 4 your help
[10:57] <eagles0513875> lasse: did u enable all repos through adept
[10:58] <lasse> yes i did
[10:58] <lasse> no (wierd) just the us ones
[10:58] <lasse> Tierd...
[10:58] <lasse> sorry
[10:58] <dominik> hey. guys :)
[10:59] <dominik> any germans here?
[10:59] <eagles0513875> !de | dominik
[11:00] <eagles0513875> lasse: dont give up on it sometimes problems dont wanna fix themselves today but fix another day
[11:01] <lasse> Yeah i know, but not today 8-(
[11:01] <dominik> #kubuntu-de
[11:01] <eagles0513875> yep
[11:01] <eagles0513875> lasse: this channel is always here for u to get help so go rest and come back some other time
[11:02] <lasse> Thx all
[11:04] <Tyrian> Do i use Adept to install Firefox ?
[11:05] <eagles0513875> u can
[11:05] <eagles0513875> *you
[11:05] <eagles0513875> or sudo apt-get install firefox in command line
[11:07] <eagles0513875> !gnash
[11:07] <Tyrian> Ok , ill try that after Addept updater is done
[11:07] <eagles0513875> that explains the issue
[11:07] <eagles0513875> Tyrian: you can update your machine using command line as well fyi
[11:08] <eagles0513875> Tyrian: if you are interested in konsole type man apt
[11:08] <Tyrian> ok
[11:08] <eagles0513875> and that will tell you everythign about apt
[11:08] <eagles0513875> !flash
[11:08] <eagles0513875> !restricted
[11:15] <eagles0513875> ere4si: fixed the flash issue
[11:15] <ere4si> eagles0513875: well done - what was the trick?
[11:15] <eagles0513875> ere4si: dumped the nonfree for swfdec
[11:15] <kalel> ciao
[11:15] <eagles0513875> !it | kalel
[11:17] <eagles0513875> ere4si: now the problem is no audio or video with it
[11:18] <ere4si> hehe - ff3 is nothing but trouble...
[11:20] <eagles0513875> not true i love it on windows
[11:25] <th1> Hi, I read the announcement from June 28 of Intrepid Alpha 1, and the link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/intrepid/alpha-1/ is broken, where is the image?
[11:26] <jussi01> th1: try asking in #kubuntu-testers or #ubuntu+1
[11:26] <th1> ok
[11:28] <gnomefreak> th1: try alpha 2
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:28] <gnomefreak> it was released yesterday
[11:29] <gnomefreak> still kind of troublesome at this time
[11:32] <knulfine> !de
[11:35] <eagles0513875> anyone having any issues with hal where it wont let you load a pen drive or the local drive it keeps saying that the feature is available in hal and i go see if hal is running and it is
[11:38] <rodrigofireworks> Hi people... somebody can help me? I would like to know how can I erase the "Temporary Internet Files" of the Ubuntu...
[11:42] <Tyrian> !flash
[11:43] <KingOfDos> Why the *** is Amarok not supporting more cores in a CPU? It's only using one core instead of four.
[11:46] <orgthingy> well, there are many media players fhs
[11:46] <orgthingy> get another one
[11:47] <DawnLight> hello
[11:49] <Tyrian> cant seem to get that flash installer for Firefox working :P  what is the trick ?   Sorry if i ask n00b questions :)
[11:50] <Tyrian> But hey..  sometimes have to be the first ;)
[11:51] <jpds> Tyrian: did you instal the flashplugin-nonfree package?
[11:52] <jpds> !flash > Tyrian
[11:53] <rodrigofireworks> hey... where's the "Temorary Internet Files" bag?
[11:55] <jussi01> rodrigofireworks: if you are using firefox i beleive you can clear them through the preferences
[11:55] <rodrigofireworks> thanks jussi01
[11:57] <ere4si> eagles0513875: ping
[11:58] <eagles0513875> ere4si: yo
[11:59] <ere4si> eagles0513875: helping with a flash prob - what was your solution again pls
[11:59] <eagles0513875> ere4si: still no solution
[12:00] <ere4si> eagles0513875: bummer - that you had that nailed - np :)
[12:00] <eagles0513875> ere4si: i did with swfdec but no audio or video displaying
[12:00] <eagles0513875> im trying gnash again
[12:00] <ere4si> k - good luck
[12:00] <eagles0513875> thanks
[12:20] <Tyrian> idownloaded Gnash..  how to start the installer from the commandline ?
[12:21] <lumm> who knows waht gnash is
[12:21] <lumm> how about read the readme?
[12:22] <ere4si> gnash is in the repos isn't it?
[12:23] <eagles0513875> ere4si: it is
[12:23] <eagles0513875> i fixed my issue with gnash i think
[12:24] <ere4si> eagles0513875: yeh - maybe - think?
[12:24] <ere4si> hehe
[12:24] <eagles0513875> ere4si: my browser is lockd up right now
[12:24] <ubuntu__> hi
[12:25] <ere4si> !hi | ubuntu
[12:25] <eagles0513875> hi
[12:25] <eagles0513875> !hi
[12:25] <eagles0513875> lol the bot hates me
[12:25] <ubuntu__aa> i have a question, i am using ubuntu now
[12:25] <ubuntu__aa> with the live CD
[12:26] <ubuntu__aa> and i have to download somethin which is about 480 MB and i have to burn it on a CD, i have 2 DVD brenner at the pc,
[12:26] <eagles0513875> ere4si: brb need a reboot
[12:26] <ubuntu__aa> how can i download it
[12:26] <ubuntu__aa> or where do i have to safe it
[12:27] <ubuntu__aa> i have connectet my extern hdd
[12:27] <Eko_Hermiyanto> why I can not change resolution on KDE 4?
[12:27] <Eko_Hermiyanto> the apply button always gray
[12:27] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I could not puss the button
[12:27] <eagles0513875> Eko_Hermiyanto: try in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:31] <Tyrian> ok..  i give up !  bye
[12:32] <ubuntu__aa> damn i hate windows
[12:32] <venik> Is there a way to start the Kmenu from the keynoard, rather than with the mouse?
[12:33] <ubuntu__aa> lol i love ubuntu, well i am downloading with 3mb/s :D and with win only 1,4....
[12:33] <ubuntu__aa> "only"
[12:37] <Lynx51> hello
[12:37] <Lynx51> I'm testing Kubuntu 8.04. It's very good :)
[12:38] <ere4si> that's the general consensus here
[12:38] <dresnu> hello! does anyone know how I can disable javascript in konqueror for a specific website without disabling it globaly?
[12:39] <venik> imho 8.04 is much buggier than previous versions.  I have been using kubuntu since 6.10, and had much more trouble with 8.04 than with older versions
[12:40] <tictric> venik: I cannot confirm
[12:40] <venik> your milage obviously varies
[12:40] <venik> and kde4 is a joke, at least for now
[12:40] <venik> half baked is more like it
[12:41] <tictric> venik: no
[12:41] <venik> ok, if u say so
[12:41] <venik> it is certainly not finished-- no drag and drop even
[12:41] <tictric> Alt-F1
[12:42] <tictric> you can change it though
[12:42] <dresnu> kubuntu 8.10 will support exclusively kde 4 right?
[12:42] <tictric> Systemsettings -> Keyboard&Mouse -> Shortcuts -> Plasma from dropdown menu
[12:43] <tictric> venik: nobody ever said that it was finished
[12:43] <venik> thanks, that is great
[12:44] <tictric> venik: I even recall a Blog entry that said kde 4.0 will eat your children
[12:45] <dresnu> tictric: it won't certainly kill your wife though, that's another peace os software...
[12:45] <dresnu> :-D
[12:45] <tictric> all this useless accusations are pissing the devs of over the time
[12:45] <tictric> no one wants to react to that crap anymore
[12:46] <venik> ok-- let's all hold hands and sing kumbaya
[12:46] <venik> it might save some poor soul from installing kde4, though
[12:46] <venik> all those useless accusations
[12:48] <venik> can anyone tlel me why my kubuntu boots with 640X480 resolution?  I have an ati video card that can do 1900X1200
[12:48] <venik> I do not want to install the proprietary driver
[12:48] <venik> it used to boot just fine, but in one of the upgrades, something has changed
[12:49] <venik> to fix it I have to reinstall an old copy of xorg.conf
[12:49] <venik> and I have to do it each time I reboot
[12:50] <venik> cntrl-alt backspace does not fix it
[12:50] <venik> can anyone help?
[12:52] <besitzer__> hallo kann mia jemand helfen beim installieren von gaim?
[12:52] <venik> it is called pidgin now
[12:53] <venik> was ist die frage?
[12:53] <ere4si> !de | besitzer
[13:01] <shamoun_> hey all
[13:01] <ere4si> hi shamoun_
[13:02] <shamoun_> if i download the kubuntu iso on the site, will it have all the same packages as the ubuntu iso, just with kde as a desktop?
[13:02] <shamoun_> because the ubuntu site says 8.04.1
[13:02] <ere4si> shamoun_: no - it uses some different apps
[13:02] <shamoun_> will the hardware support be equivalent?
[13:02] <shamoun_> that's my main concern
[13:03] <ere4si> shamoun_:  the core is the same - so same hardware support - it is just what goes on top that is diff
[13:04] <shamoun_> thanks for the info
[13:04] <ere4si> np :)
[13:04] <tictric> shamoun_: 8.04.1 is a bugfix release
[13:04] <shamoun_> ah
[13:04] <shamoun_> thanks for the info
[13:04] <tictric> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde-destop installed
[13:05] <tictric> ubuntu <- gnome desktop
[13:05] <tictric> kubuntu <- kde destop
[13:05] <shamoun_> alrighty
[13:05] <shamoun_> downloading now
[13:06] <shamoun_> just needed to confirm cos i needed to make a usb live distro
[13:06] <shamoun_> and the newest version of ubuntu is one of the few live cds that booted without trouble and with full net support on this laptop
[13:06] <shamoun_> anyway, thanks for all the info, i need to get some sleep
[13:06] <shamoun_> later all
[13:10] <elgokulo> can someone name me one good program to edit pdfs?
[13:12] <etfb> elgokulo: This might be a stupid question, but: do you have access to the documents that produced the PDFs?
[13:15] <etfb> Has the problem with Java and Firefox 3 in Ubuntu been solved?  I have no idea which package will give me Java in Firefox, and the search function in Adept is, of course, broken.
[13:15] <elgokulo> nopes. those are pdfs made from my university prof. probably he made it with word and convertd it to pdf. but i have no access to the word docs
[13:15] <elgokulo> i just wann appent them to each other. so i have one big pdf with
[13:16] <elgokulo> append
[13:16] <hoopoe> My screen resolution changed, and the monitor section of system settings has disappeared.
[13:16] <etfb> elgokulo: Why not "print" them one after the other to a PDF printer driver then?
[13:16] <etfb> elgThere's one in
[13:16]  * etfb pressed Enter too soon
[13:17] <etfb> elgokulo: There's a Windows PDF driver that I use at work, that lets you collect all your output together as a single PDF.  There must be something similar for real operating systems...
[13:18] <etfb> elgokulo: Alternatively, have you tried PDFEdit?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PDFedit
[13:18] <elgokulo> yes. but pdfedit is terrible to use. experiencing really slow downs
[13:19] <etfb> elgokulo: Poo.
[13:19] <etfb> elgokulo: Doesn't Open Office let you edit PDFs?  Or am I misremembering?
[13:20] <elgokulo> hmm let me try
[13:22]  * etfb tries loading a PDF in OOo and gets gibberish.  Curses!
[13:22] <elgokulo> yeah :D
[13:25] <etfb> elgokulo: Deep down, PDF is really just PostScript, or a stunted and warped form of it, kind of how HTML is really XML, or Windows is really CP/M.  So tools that let you edit PS files should, theoretically, be extensible to edit PDFs.  There are plenty of PDF editing tools available on the web, so there's obviously no roadblock other than programmer effort...
[13:25] <elgokulo> hmm looks like i can do it with gs
[13:25] <etfb> elgokulo: Heh!  Snap!
[13:25] <elgokulo> thx :)
[13:25] <etfb> Ugh, flat batteries.  Gotta go.  Good luck with that!
[13:27] <senethril> Bonjour
[13:27] <tictric> bonjour
[13:29] <senethril> Je suis tout nouveau avec kubuntu, pour l'instant je crois avoir tout sous la main je dois terminer de mettre un compresseur pour la radio et ca ira sinon je poste ici :)
[13:29] <tictric> !fr | senethril
[13:29] <senethril> ha
[13:29] <tictric> de rien
[13:29] <senethril> ok excuse me
[14:00] <ilkin> hi people
[14:01] <ilkin> is there anybody here
[14:01] <ilkin> ??
[14:01] <ilkin> aloye
[14:02] <ilkin> i need help with kubuntu
[14:02] <hoopoe> my screen res changed itself and i can't change it back!!!
[14:05] <ilkin> hi
[14:05] <ilkin> people
[14:05] <ilkin> internet is connected but Konqeuror doesnt want to go anyware
[14:05] <ilkin> what is up
[14:05] <ilkin> ?
[14:14] <paines> hi
[14:14] <eagles0513875> !hi | paines
[14:16] <paines> why is firefox 3 in kubuntu such a mess. crashes on startup, some websites won't work, about: shows firefox 1.9, info windows shows 3, 1000s of smal annoying thins. cehckboxes won't update on first clicks etc. under debian firefox3 hasn't as much issues, same for win32.
[14:20] <eagles0513875> paines: i dunno never noticed that problem
[14:20] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: u have any idea on paines issue
[14:20] <klerfayt> paines: it crashes for me also twice or once a day at least :-(
[14:20] <klerfayt> paines: it's basically caused by flash
[14:20] <gnomefreak> dont know didnt see it
[14:21] <gnomefreak> paines: ok first about shows xulrunner-1.9 not firefox the 1.9 is xulrunner
[14:22] <gnomefreak> crashes are can be caused by a lot of things try running it with new profile/user try running it in safe mode to where it crashes disable all extensions and add them back until you find the one that caused the crash
[14:23] <yacc> Any idea what could make KNetworkManager not display the WLANs found?
[14:24] <gnomefreak> Windows firefox is a totally different build nothing is same so please dont compare to windows unless a page crashes in linux and not windows and that is normall caused by the above things and if you cant view a site its most liley IE only
[14:24] <ilkin_> anybody here
[14:24] <ilkin_> please answer
[14:24] <eagles0513875> !hi | ilkin_
[14:24] <eagles0513875> !patience | ilkin_
[14:24] <ilkin_> hi
[14:24] <eagles0513875> !ask | ilkin_
[14:24] <paines> gnomefreak, thanks. what i tried is moving away plugins/ in home and also complete .mozilla dir, which made it a bit more stable on startup. but most annonying is things like checkboxes, best seen on facebook
[14:24] <ilkin_> thank you
[14:25] <ilkin_> it is my first coming to kubuntu  with first problem
[14:25] <ilkin_> ))
[14:25] <ilkin_> I have intenet connection but browser rejects to open any site
[14:26] <eagles0513875> ilkin_: what kind of internet connection is it
[14:26] <ilkin_> browser is Konqeuror
[14:26] <eagles0513875> have you ever used firefox before
[14:26] <gnomefreak> paines: i dont use facebook so im not sure what you mean. Im assuming its a theme issue so try changing theme back to default
[14:26] <ilkin_> dial up with Conexant driver for winmodems
[14:26] <ilkin_> in Kubuntu  i have only Konqeuror
[14:27] <eagles0513875> ilkin_: good luck getting that setup i have never had to deal with dial up
[14:28] <eagles0513875> i know winmodems are a night mare to find drivers for though
[14:28] <eagles0513875> ilkin_: u able to get on the internet
[14:28] <paines> gnomefreak, sorry I meant myspace not facebook
[14:28] <eagles0513875> paines: im on myspace no problem
[14:28] <ilkin_> but i have already connection
[14:28] <aleboco> hi guiys, can anybody tell me how to load java plugin in konqueror (kde3)
[14:28] <eagles0513875> paines: the checkbox this is also an issue in gmail as well
[14:28] <ilkin_> why does browser open any page
[14:28] <ilkin_> ?
[14:29] <ilkin_> sorry why doesnt browser open any page?
[14:29] <gnomefreak> paines: i havent been to my myspace nor to myspace in gernel i keep forgetting what i was told to do on it
[14:29] <paines> eagles0513875, exactly
[14:29] <eagles0513875> ilkin_: is it set to work in offline mode by mistake
[14:29] <gnomefreak> ilkin_: define browser there are like 20 of them in ubuntu
[14:30] <paines> gnomefreak, gmail e.g. has also the checkbox problem
[14:30] <DexterF> hi
[14:30] <ilkin_> Konqeuror
[14:30] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: hes using konk and 2ndly the issue hes having is that check box issue i was telling u bout in gmail
[14:30] <eagles0513875> !hi | DexterF
[14:30] <gnomefreak> paines: change them to see if it fixes it
[14:30] <paines> gnomefreak, change what ?
[14:30] <gnomefreak> s/them/theme
[14:30] <paines> ohh
[14:30] <paines> okay
[14:30] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: its noticing the pluging but i cannot play anything back
[14:30] <paines> let me check
[14:30] <gnomefreak> paines: firfox theme im thinking you are not using default
[14:31] <DexterF> just did a fresh install of 8.04. X has it all wrong. 1024x768@60, should be rather 1600x1200@85. can't even set that. copied a working xorg.conf from debian, no go either, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, comes up with a weird conf with no values at all
[14:31] <DexterF> wtf?
[14:31] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: you would need to check with asac on that but it could be anything made after 7 gnash may not play or play badly
[14:31] <eagles0513875> whats the channel
[14:31] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: gnash isnt caught up with flash versions
[14:32] <paines> arrrrghh. crashed again
[14:32] <paines> creeping me out
[14:32] <eagles0513875> !patience DexterF
[14:32] <klerfayt> paines: link?
[14:32] <gnomefreak> paines: does it crash with new profile does it crash in safe mode
[14:32] <ilkin_> eagles0513875: how to set offline-online regimes in Konqeuror web browser?
[14:32] <DexterF> eagles0513875: dude, what?
[14:32] <klerfayt> paines: I bet it's flashplayer
[14:32] <gnomefreak> ilkin_: should be a choice in menus or an icon in lower left hand corner
[14:32] <eagles0513875> paines: im having issue with flash nonfree plugin i dumped it for gnash still having some slighty issues
[14:32] <paines> klerfayt, no. I have a fresh install withoutany plugins, besides foxmakrs
[14:33] <eagles0513875> ilkin_: i dont know i use firefox
[14:33] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: it would be libflashsupport more so tahn flash
[14:33] <klerfayt> paines: hmm, that's not normal.
[14:33] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: whats the room that asac would be in
[14:33] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: #ubuntu-mozillateam
[14:33] <eagles0513875> ty
[14:33] <klerfayt> paines: give me the link of website
[14:33] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: i think he left
[14:33] <gnomefreak> no i just gave him a link
[14:33] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhhh
[14:34] <paines> klerfayt, no website. crash on startup
[14:34] <gnomefreak> ilkin_: give me a minute ill look if i can run it
[14:34] <ilkin_> now i will download firefox 3 lets see then what will happen
[14:34] <klerfayt> paines: move $HOME/.mozilla directory to somewhere /backup
[14:35] <paines> klerfayt, i did that before i came in here.
[14:35] <paines> sorry mate
[14:35] <gnomefreak> it seems konq doesnt wan tto open outside of kde it used to :(
[14:35] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: no dont do that
[14:35] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: do what? :-)
[14:35] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: paines make a new user
[14:35] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: never move ~/.mozilla
[14:35] <gnomefreak> just make a new user/profile
[14:35] <paines> ohh
[14:35] <paines> okay
[14:36] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: why not? it's not like you delete it.
[14:36] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: it a very bad habit
[14:36] <gnomefreak> has caused and can cause problems
[14:36] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: like?
[14:37] <gnomefreak> inside the ~/.mozilla you have firefox adn default moving the profile changes the default profile when you start firefox it creates a new one and some people have had issues getting back to old one due to the rename
[14:37] <galathalion> my flashmemorycardslot is suddenly not wokring, pls halp
[14:38] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: it is best to creat new user does same thing only safe
[14:38] <paines> well 4 starups okay, 5 crashed again
[14:38] <paines> didn't even asked about which profile to use
[14:39] <paines> http://pastebin.com/m4a8b0fc7
[14:39] <paines> from .xsession-errors
[14:39] <gnomefreak> paines: did you run firefox from terminal with the profile flasg?
[14:39] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: what's the difference? I move $HOME/.mozilla for example to $HOME/backup. and start fresh. If I want I can overwrite $HOME/.mozilla with old anytime thanks to backup
[14:39] <paines> gnomefreak, first 3-4 runs yes, the crashes one no, started via alt+f2->command
[14:40] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: it can and has caused issues. klerfayt you can do what you like but please dont give advice that can be damaging
[14:40] <gnomefreak> paines: give me a site you crash on
[14:40] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: how is that damaging advice?
[14:40] <galathalion> pls?
[14:40] <paines> gnomefreak, it looks like startings from console are mostly succesfull, starts from alt+f2 or via icon aren't
[14:40] <paines> very strange
[14:40] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: what the hell are you talking about
[14:40] <ilkin__> did you find offline-online options in Konqeuror?
[14:41] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: its unsafe to do it do you not read what i typed?
[14:41] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: because?
[14:42] <klerfayt> you have perfect copy of $HOME/.mozilla. where is the damage?
[14:42] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: when you develop mozilla apps than please tell me but you can do what you like moving ~/.mozilla is bad and can cause damage and your telling someone that really not sure what he is doing and that makes it that much more damaging
[14:42] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: CAN
[14:42] <gnomefreak> not DOES
[14:42] <klerfayt> where is the damage done?
[14:42] <klerfayt> please show me. or stop bs
[14:44] <jhutchins> gnomefreak: I think we're off topic here, but moving .mozilla really can not cause damage.  It puts you in the same position as if you had not run mozilla before, and you have a backup of anything you might need (mostly settings, cookies, passwords, and cache).
[14:44] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: first off im a bit busy fixing something so i can get weekend started. 2nd do what you like 3rd if you tell someone to do it be ready to fix it for them if something goes wrong. but i warned you it can lead to trouble
[14:44] <jhutchins> gnomefreak: Please give an example of a problem it could cause.
[14:44] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: you know what? stop bs about damage if there is none
[14:45] <gnomefreak> jhutchins: klerfayt i didnt say it was bad for firefox i said it was bad habit and can hurt. most mozilla apps are in ~/.mozilla not just firefox
[14:45] <paines> ff3 icon problem: http://www.google.de/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official    there are 3 icons. when you click one it is updated only when you click somewhere else. can this confirm someone ?
[14:45] <paines> please
[14:45] <paines> icon=checkbox
[14:46] <jhutchins> gnomefreak: Again, please either provide an example or stop saying that.
[14:46] <eagles0513875> paines: a bug has been filed in regards to that i told gnomefreak bout it earlier
[14:46] <gnomefreak> jhutchins: i dont have one off top of my head
[14:46] <gnomefreak> i said its BAD HABIT
[14:46] <klerfayt> paines: this is gtk-qt engine bug
[14:46] <paines> eagles0513875, ahh. sorry didn't saw that
[14:46] <eagles0513875> paines: its ok
[14:46] <jhutchins> gnomefreak: In fact, it's a recommended diagnostic technique.
[14:47] <jhutchins> gnomefreak: We recommend strongly against _deleting_ hidden config folders, but do recommend moving them.
[14:47] <paines> klerfayt, damn right, with qt-curve it works
[14:47] <gnomefreak> paines: yeah there is i have it in email folder but dont have email set up yet i have to work on IMAP but i need info freom OPP3
[14:47] <gnomefreak> POP3
[14:47] <jhutchins> (In appropriate cases.)
[14:47] <gnomefreak> jhutchins: i have never seem mozilla say that anywhere
[14:48] <gnomefreak> jhutchins: and do they know what WE store in there?
[14:48] <gnomefreak> since we make the ~/.mozilla directory otherwise thunderbird would go in there
[14:48] <gnomefreak> and notice ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[14:48] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: listen dude. it's not going to "damage" anyone if you have the backup
[14:48] <jhutchins> gnomefreak: I use a real mail client.
[14:49] <galathalion> anybody help me with my sd-card?
[14:49] <gnomefreak> jhutchins: i use 4 mail clients whats your point
[14:49] <jhutchins> klerfayt: I think we should just drop it.
[14:49] <gnomefreak> i have tbird since i have to work on it
[14:50] <bazhang> best to move on
[14:51] <galathalion> hello?
[14:52] <paines> hmmm. maybe the crashes are also releated to gtk-qt engine. now the start ups are working too
[14:52] <eagles0513875> !hi | galathalion
[14:52] <galathalion> yo
[14:53] <klerfayt> paines: what style are you using in kde?
[14:53] <galathalion> my flashcard isnt wokring all of a sudden
[14:53] <eagles0513875> galathalion: ask ur question with specific deatils and wait patiently and someone who knws will help ya out bro
[14:53] <galathalion> eagles0513875: sis*
[14:53] <eagles0513875> ?
[14:53] <galathalion> im a sister
[14:53] <galathalion> seems like it wont mount
[14:54] <paines> gnomefreak eagles0513875 klerfayt thanks for the help / advice
[14:54] <gnomefreak> paines: np
[14:54] <eagles0513875> paines: no prob
[14:54] <galathalion> i guess i have to mount it manually but how do i do that?
[14:54] <eagles0513875> galathalion: sry sister
[14:54] <paines> klerfayt, i use plastik, and have changed gtk to qt-curve
[14:55] <galathalion> eagles0513875: np
[14:55] <galathalion> i even tried through a usb-adapter and still wont work
[14:55] <eagles0513875> galathalion: wish i could help you out but i dont really use memory cards with my machine
[14:55] <galathalion> used to work before
[14:55] <eagles0513875> galathalion: did it work in the previous release of kubuntu
[14:55] <paines> galathalion, insert the card, then to dmesg in a console. you will sdX was recognized. then you can mount it with sudo mount /dev/sdX /mountpoint
[14:55] <galathalion> eagles0513875: yes
[14:57] <galathalion> paines: i dont understand
[14:59] <eagles0513875> galathalion: what he is saying is put in a card in the card reader and then in the command line run dmesg and see if any error messages will come up there
[14:59] <paines> galathalion, insert the sd card in your reader, notebook etc, fire up a terminal like konsole, exec the command dmesg, and you should see that a ne device was recognised
[15:00] <ilkin__> uraaaaaa firefox worked
[15:00] <ilkin__> bye i am going
[15:00] <jhutchins> galathalion: You can also sudo tail -f /var/log/messages, then connect the reader and insert the card, watch what happens.
[15:00] <eagles0513875> ilkin__: so then its an issue with konquerer
[15:00] <galathalion> paines: thats all i have to do? it should work now
[15:00] <galathalion> ?
[15:01] <paines> galathalion, no, it is just an error gussing method
[15:01] <ilkin__> yeah
[15:01] <galathalion> paines: ok.. what do i do next?
[15:01] <paines> galathalion, cause when you don't see that a new device was detected, swomthing is wrong with your setup
[15:02] <paines> galathalion, do you see something like sdX at the end of dmesg
[15:02] <paines> sda, sbd etc
[15:03] <galathalion> paines: yes
[15:03] <paines> nice
[15:04] <galathalion> paines: now what?
[15:04] <paines> galathalion, you can mount it like this: sudo mount /dev/sdX /media/
[15:04] <galathalion> it says sda, should i write that instead?
[15:04] <paines> yep
[15:04] <galathalion> awrite
[15:05] <galathalion> paines: mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /media/ busy
[15:05] <galathalion> :/
[15:05] <paines> oka
[15:05] <paines> y
[15:05] <galathalion> its not working
[15:06] <paines> technically it is, but whats your general problem ?do you wanted that the card is automatically mounted when inserted ?
[15:07] <galathalion> i wanna transfer my pictures!
[15:07] <galathalion> :D
[15:07] <DawnLight> does the installer set up lvm by default?
[15:10] <paines> galathalion, exec the command mount in the console and paste it to pastebin please
[15:10] <paines> pastebin.com
[15:10] <paines> and give us the url
[15:12] <galathalion> paines: http://pastebin.com/d2183c62
[15:13] <paines> galathalion, and please copy paste the few lines from dmesg to pastebin when you insert thecard
[15:15] <galathalion> paines: http://pastebin.com/d4c9a3eea
[15:18] <paines> galathalion, hmm. i don't think that sda is you sd card, cause sda1 is your / dir
[15:18] <paines> galathalion, when you remove the card and exec dmesg, what did you see at the end
[15:21] <ilembitov> Hi, all. I've downloaded and burned the newest Kubuntu KDE4 remix 8.04.1 As I try to load from the install CD, the menu doesn't allow me to actually choose any option - to run LiveCD, to install, or else. Otherwise the menu is fully functional and allows me to boot from hardrive. Has anyone necountered such a problem?
[15:21] <paines> ilembitov, can you navigate through the menu ?
[15:21] <ilembitov> Yes
[15:21] <galathalion> paines: [ 3358.345858] mmc0: card 1234 removed
[15:21] <galathalion> :D
[15:22] <paines> ilembitov, sorry i thought it is a hardware issue, haven't tried the remix cd. maybe someone else can help
[15:23] <paines> galathalion, and it worked before ?
[15:23] <galathalion> paines: yes
[15:25] <galathalion> paines: fixed it
[15:25] <Monnick> can someone do something for me?
[15:25] <galathalion> paines: thanx for your help
[15:25] <paines> good i was running out of ideas. HAHAHA
[15:26] <galathalion> :D
[15:26] <Monnick> terminal -> gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst en paste the bootlines for Kubuntu :)
[15:26] <paines> galathalion, what was it ?
[15:26] <galathalion> paines: i dunno.. something seems to be broken because its supposed to mount automatic
[15:26] <paines> galathalion, strange
[15:26] <paines> neverminf
[15:27] <galathalion> paines: since the upgrade my computer hasnt been the same..
[15:27] <paines> they are never
[15:28] <paines> Monnick, http://pastebin.com/m267706b9
[15:28] <paines> i doiubt there is a diffrence between ubuntu / kubuntu in grub
[15:28] <Monnick> no, there isnt
[15:29] <Monnick> but thanks very much! :)
[15:29] <paines> np
[15:33] <DawnLight> i thought to give kubuntu a try to see if it would be suitable for installation on lots of new desktop computers that will be sold. so i installed it in virtualbox, logged in and saw the adept thing notifying me of upgrades so i went along with it. it made the upgrades, complained about some error occuring, didn't give me a chance to see the error, and before having a chance to close this adept updater thing, it crashed. i'm a debian user. DEBIAN. and i'll
[15:35] <aleboco> ehi, hi everybody, does anyone know a good application to store bookmarks independently from the browser?
[15:35] <elgokulo> DawnLight, your message was truncated. too long
[15:36] <bazhang> DawnLight, was there a question in there?
[15:36] <aleboco> it is because i use firefox and konqueror together, and i would like to share bookmarks
[15:37] <DawnLight> i thought to give kubuntu a try to see if it would be suitable for installation on lots of new desktop computers that will be sold. so i installed it in virtualbox, logged in and saw the adept thing notifying me of upgrades so i went along with it.
[15:37] <DawnLight> it made the upgrades, complained about some error occuring, didn't give me a chance to see the error, and before having a chance to close this adept updater thing, it crashed. i'm a debian user. DEBIAN. and i'll be sticking with it until further notice. thanks
[15:37] <bazhang> DawnLight, no need for support then?
[15:38] <paines> DawnLight, happens mostly if you have to confirm an question, like sun java license agreement etc
[15:38] <paines> very annoying
[15:39] <elgokulo> DawnLight, there is aptitude too
[15:39] <domme_> hi guys... i want to setup vsftpd and need to change a directory's access rights, but "sudo chmod g-w anon" wont do anything
[15:39] <DawnLight> i'm using only aptitude in debian
[15:40] <elgokulo> so you can use it with ubuntu too :)
[15:40] <Slurb> synaptic package manager is good for ubuntu
[15:41] <DawnLight> i won't be using ubuntu. it failed miserably
[15:42] <Slurb> synaptic should work with debian too
[15:42] <bazhang> DawnLight, there is #kubuntu-offtopic for chat, or #debian
[15:43] <anto> salve sono nuovo
[15:43] <bazhang> !it | anto
[15:43] <anto> come faccio non ho mai usato un programma di chat
[15:44] <bazhang> anto, english please
[15:44] <bazhang> anto or /join #ubuntu-it
[15:46] <anto> non so come andare su ubuntu-it mi aiutate
[15:46] <elgokulo> DawnLight, feel free :)
[15:46] <aditya> how do I install compiz desktop effects on kubuntu 64 bit?
[15:47] <aditya> how do I install compiz desktop effects on kubuntu 64 bit?
[15:48] <aditya> cmon plz reply!
[15:48] <bazhang> !ccsm | aditya
[15:48] <Slurb> aditya use synaptic and search for compiz
[15:49] <aditya> i did that,but its not getting installed,says it isnt availble for your comp architecture
[15:49] <domme_> please help, i cant change access rights for directories
[15:50] <klerfayt> domme_: what directories?
[15:50] <aleboco> clicca sul link azzurro #ubuntu-it
[15:50] <aleboco> dovrebbe andare in automatico
[15:50] <domme_> there is a directory called anon and "sudo chmod g-w anon" wont do anything
[15:50] <domme_> i created the directory myself... its not systemcritical, still chmod (and also everything done in properties) will not be saved
[15:50] <klerfayt> domme_: example for you - chown -R kristjan:kristjan /home/kristjan/
[15:51] <klerfayt> "chown -R kristjan:kristjan /home/kristjan/"
[15:51] <klerfayt> "sudo chown -R kristjan:kristjan /home/kristjan/"
[15:51] <klerfayt> but use your name and group! :-D
[15:53] <klerfayt> oh wait. you aren't having problems with ownership ...
[15:53] <domme_> hm, i dont know my group :x
[15:54] <klerfayt> use command "id"
[15:54] <domme_> ah ok, it was just like the username =)
[15:55] <klerfayt> "id -u" for username and "id -g" for group
[15:55] <domme_> thanks, but that still didnt solve my problem
[15:55] <klerfayt> do you don't want to change onwershipt of directory, but access rights?
[15:55] <klerfayt> *so not do
[15:56] <domme_> i want to change a directories access rights to "rwxr-xr-x"
[15:56] <klerfayt> I'm not good with access rights, but I will read man page (I only know ownership commands)
[15:57] <domme_> my plan was to use chmod, but somehow it doesnt do anything
[15:57] <klerfayt> domme_: isn't it simpler to use konqueror for this? ;-)
[15:58] <domme_> you mean rightclicking the directory and changing stuff there?
[15:59] <klerfayt> yeah ;-)
[15:59] <domme_> *in properties
[15:59] <domme_> thats not working either =(
[15:59] <klerfayt> properties --> permissions
[15:59] <klerfayt> did you check option "use it for subfolders"?
[15:59] <domme_> i can change the values as root, but when i close the windows and reopen the values are still the old ones
[15:59] <domme_> there are no subfolders anyway
[16:00] <klerfayt> to whom does the directory belong? not to you?
[16:01] <domme_> root
[16:01] <yacc> Any idea what would make KNetworkManager not show my WLANs?
[16:01] <klerfayt> sorry can't help you with chmod right now
[16:01] <domme_> it says owner root group plugdev
[16:02] <domme_> and i can change it to what i want, it wont be saved
[16:02] <domme_> ok, thanks anyway
[16:02] <klerfayt> domme_: why not give /anon your group and name ownership?
[16:03] <klerfayt> "sudo chown -R kristjan:kristjan /path/to/anon"
[16:03] <domme_> i cant
[16:03] <domme_> all this stuff i did has not been saved
[16:04]  * klerfayt reads chown man page
[16:04] <domme_> i typed "sudo chown -R domme:domme /storage/ftp" (ftp includes anon)
[16:04] <domme_> and when i check it in konqueror it keeps saying root plugdev
[16:05] <klerfayt> oh this is server stuff. can't help with that, thought we are talking about local hard drive
[16:05] <domme_> may it be that those flags work for ext3-filesystem only?
[16:06] <klerfayt> domme_: from man page it says to use "-hR" ... at your own risk though
[16:06] <klerfayt> yacc: any fn keys to toggle wireless in laptop?
[16:07] <yacc> klerfayt, I can use the wlan fine with iwconfig/ifconfig manually.
[16:07] <yacc> klerfayt, and KNetworkManager does not show them even when the WLAN is not configured after booting either.
[16:08] <klerfayt> I wish I could help you with more, sadly I'm not networking expert ;-=
[16:10] <yacc> klerfayt, it claims no active device, when I'm just using my WLAN.
[16:10] <domme_> klerfayt: i solved my problem by moving the directory ftp from /storage/ to /
[16:10] <domme_> it was on a NTFS-partition before and is now on ext3
[16:11] <klerfayt> man. I shouldn't give advice in the area there I'm novice ;-)
[16:11] <chfwiggum> hi all
[16:11]  * klerfayt shuts up
[16:11] <chfwiggum> is there a program like gcfilms for kde?
[16:12] <jhutchins> yacc: So the only problem is knetworkmanager, the wireless is working fine?
[16:12] <chfwiggum> im searching for a moviedatabase
[16:12] <yacc> jhutchins, yep.
[16:12] <domme_> chfwiggum: you mean like a program browsing www.imdb.com ?
[16:12] <jhutchins> yacc: I would tend to classify that as a known problem then.  You can file a bugreport if you want, but the GUI wireless managers are all a bit short of fully functional.
[16:13] <chfwiggum> domme_: kind of. i want to make an archive of my movies
[16:13] <donsdw> I've lost the Minimize, Maximize, Resize buttons at the upper right of all my windows.  I think I changed somethin in System Settings, but I can't figure out what.  Anyone?
[16:13] <donsdw> Hardy Heron, KDE3.
[16:13] <domme_> donsdw: did you try alt+f3 ?
[16:13] <jhutchins> donsdw: not running compiz or anything?
[16:13] <klerfayt> donsdw: appearance & themes --> window decoration --> buttons
[16:14] <donsdw> jhutchins: No, pretty basic.
[16:14] <donsdw> klerfayt: I've been playing around there, but I cannot figure which setting.
[16:15] <jhutchins> donsdw: That's "widgets" or "window decorations", it's a seperate module in compiz but supposed to be integrated with kde.  You've restarted kde?
[16:16] <klerfayt> donsdw: lets try simple way -- do you see the option "use custom titlebar button potitions"?
[16:16] <donsdw> klerfayt: No, I did not restart.  Do I have to.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?
[16:16] <donsdw> jhutchins: Yes.
[16:17] <yacc> jhutchins, hmm, I removed the eth0 (without auto eth0 anyway) from /etc/network/interfaces and viola, NetworkManager decided to kill my wlan connection, but in exchange it shows the WLANs :)
[16:17] <donsdw> klerfayt: Yes I do, it is unchecked.
[16:18] <klerfayt> donsdw: if it is unchecked, then buttons should be in standard positions
[16:19] <klerfayt> donsdw: using crystal window decoration?
[16:19] <donsdw> klerfayt: Do I need to restart KDE?
[16:19] <klerfayt> donsdw: sorry can't give you any reasonable advice. never heard of such problem
[16:20] <donsdw> Okay, thanks anyway.  I will try restarting.
[16:22] <donsdw> Ah, the Window resize buttons are back now.  Had to restart X.
[16:22] <donsdw> Thanks klerfayt and jhutchins.
[16:22] <klerfayt> window resize button??? what deco is that. I've never seen decoration with resize button
[16:23] <CrocoJet> hello
[16:23] <klerfayt> there is sticky, above, below, shade, help. minimize, maximize, close
[16:23] <klerfayt> and menu ... but never have I seen resize button
[16:24] <gh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[16:26] <donsdw> klerfayt: I am just miswording.  The three buttons you see at the upper right of a window, to quit the window, etc.
[16:28] <gh> compiz-fusion has three different types of window decorations, gnome, kde, emerald
[16:28] <gh> http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Decoration
[16:28] <donsdw> Minimize, Maximize and Close.
[16:28] <gh> when you first install, start or stop compiz-fusion you will lose those decorations until you restart kde.
[16:29] <klerfayt> gh: you do?
[16:29] <klerfayt> gh: never happened to me
[16:29] <gh> yes, I went through the exact same thing donsdw has commented on
[16:29] <gh> it also depends on your graphics card / driver
[16:31] <gh> also, if i change between either three decorations I have to restart kde before the changes take effect.
[16:32] <klerfayt> gh: try this --> "kwin --replace"
[16:32] <gh> I don't change my settings on a regular basis
[16:33] <klerfayt> for only decoration change --> "kde-window-decorator --replace"
[16:33] <klerfayt> get emerald back --> "emerald --replace"
[16:33] <gh> it works fine after restarting. I've read the docs and have been using it since 7.04
[16:33] <klerfayt> get compiz back --> "compiz --replace"
[16:33] <gh> yes that what the docs clearly say
[16:35] <SilentDis> !adept
[16:35] <SilentDis> !synaptic
[16:35] <SilentDis> !apt
[16:36] <Makuseru> Hi, I seem to be having a problem, when i create a file, and name it in all caps, it defaults it back to all lowercase, but i need it to be in all caps so i can get something to recoginse it, why is kubuntu doing this?
[16:37] <SilentDis> grrr... something is locking the package manager, and I can't for the life of me remember how to clear it.  I remember there being an !info point for it, but can't remember that either lol.  any suggestions?
[16:37] <klerfayt> Makuseru: works as intended here
[16:37] <klerfayt> SilentDis: try rebootin computer? :-D
[16:38] <SilentDis> klerfayt: that usually doesn't clear it i've found.
[16:38] <KingOfDos> Can someone help with my DVD thing? I'd installed libdvdcss, and set the dvd region with regionset. But still MPlayer, VLC and Xine can't play the DVD propperly. MPlayer does work the best, and then i got something like the following image:
[16:38] <SilentDis> !lock
[16:38] <KingOfDos> http://dev.kingofdos.com/linux-dvd.jpg
[16:38] <klerfayt> !apt
[16:38] <klerfayt> !package manager
[16:39] <KingOfDos> In mplayer i've got "some" audio, but it's laggy while decompiling.
[16:39] <SilentDis> KingOfDos: try this in a prompt `sudo ln /dev/<dvd drive location, such as hdc> /dev/dvd`
[16:40] <SilentDis> KingOfDos: should be able to play in kaffeene or the like then, i found mine didn't auto create either
[16:40] <KingOfDos> i've got a /dev/dvd and a /dev/dvdrw
[16:41] <KingOfDos> it's also located at /cdrom and /media/cdrom0
[16:42] <gh> SilentDis: I had similar issues if I didn't properly close one instance of Adept and opened another. Restarting kde/system would simply restart multiple cases.
[16:43] <KingOfDos> SilentDis, Kaffeine will even crash with a SIGSEGV (11)
[16:47] <KingOfDos> http://dev.kingofdos.com/linux-dvd-kaffeine.txt <- this will happen with Kaffeine
[16:53] <KingOfDos> Now I'd uploaded some more files. When I search for some error's there are people with the same problem, but no solution (so far i'd found).
[16:53] <KingOfDos> http://dev.kingofdos.com/linux-dvd-kaffeine.txt http://dev.kingofdos.com/linux-dvd-vlc.txt http://dev.kingofdos.com/linux-dvd-mplayer.txt http://dev.kingofdos.com/linux-dvd.jpg
[16:53] <KingOfDos> This are some error logs and a picture of it.
[17:10] <mitsarionas> hi...anyone tried to install from the intrepid alpha 2 cd?
[17:11] <ubuntu_> kjlkjl
[17:33] <guape> i need help installing java
[17:34] <guape> when i tried to install it, i got sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package
[17:34] <bazhang> guape, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:37] <Qubex> Hello, how do i delete content on a DVDRW?
[18:01] <ilkin> hello once again
[18:01] <ilkin> is there any package of windows fonts?
[18:01]  * chalcedony smiles
[18:02] <ilkin>  is there any package of windows fonts? for Kubuntu?
[18:03] <jussi01> ilkin: yes msttcorefonts
[18:04] <ilkin> ok thanks
[18:07] <jussi01> ilkin: thats the only ms fonts package I know of
[18:07] <jussi01> !fonts
[18:07] <jussi01> ilkin: you need to enable multiverse
[18:08] <ilkin> it is enabled
[18:12] <jussi01> ilkin: what is the out put of sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[18:13] <ilkin_> people  i mean Times Areal Tahoma and such kind of Windows fonts
[18:14] <Tann> Hello
[18:14] <jussi01> ilkin: yes, those are in that package
[18:14] <jussi01> hi Tann
[18:16] <LamerMan> guys, i need the libstdc++ source code, it it libstdc++-doc package?
[18:18] <ilkin_> is it possible to install windows fonts to Kubuntu?
[18:18] <ilkin_> from directly fonts folder?
[18:18] <LamerMan> ilkin_ i installed calibri font from windows :)
[18:21] <jussi01> ilkin_: if you read the link from the bot, it tells you how to install fonts
[18:22] <jussi01> ilkin_: but as I mentioned before, the msttcorefonts package has most of the windows fonts in it.
[18:23] <Jado> hello i have a problem with realplayer 11 on firefox 3 with kubuntu. I've installed realplayer thanks to with tutorial http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Installing_Real_Player_11_and_Configuring_Mozilla_Plugin but i can't listen to bbc radio on www.bbc.co.uk
[18:36] <bobJR> .
[18:37] <bobJR> i had to sycognize the time
[18:37] <illusive> Hi everybody! :D
[18:37] <bobJR> it wasnt in the right time zone on router
[18:37] <bobJR> and couldnt tell what it was doin
[18:37] <bobJR> hello how are you
[18:37] <illusive> Fine - but struggling :) You? :)
[18:37] <bobJR> same hear
[18:37] <bobJR> having  fun with router
[18:38] <illusive> :(
[18:38] <bobJR> wife was messin with linux yesterday
[18:38] <illusive> hehehehehe
[18:39] <bobJR> got all things screwed up
[18:39] <bobJR> i got it fixed were im stayin connected
[18:39] <bobJR> instead of having me connect to the main router ip 192.168.0.1
[18:39] <bobJR> she had me connect to 192.168.0.3
[18:39] <bobJR> lmfao
[18:39] <illusive> :P
[18:39] <bobJR> it wasnt doin right atlead to say
[18:39] <ncfi1013_> can anybody tell me a VERY SIMPLE way of getting my ipod to work with amarok?
[18:39] <jussi01> !pod
[18:39] <jussi01> !ipod
[18:39] <bobJR> i havnt tryed  that
[18:40] <jussi01> ncfi1013_: tried that yet?
[18:40] <bobJR> brb bathroom
[18:40] <illusive> my gfx drivers are mocking up - so I'm currently trying to find out how to select a proper driverset and getting a proper resolution. And I'm very, very new to ubuntu.
[18:40] <jussi01> illusive: which gfx card you have?
[18:41] <illusive> NVidia Geforce 7800
[18:41] <illusive> :)
[18:41] <jussi01> illusive: and you have followed the guide?
[18:41] <jussi01> !ati | illusive
[18:42] <illusive> haven't done that yet :) - I'll give that a shot - thanks! :)
[18:42] <jussi01> :)
[18:42] <illusive> this is rather oldschool.. I'm running 640x480 :S
[18:42] <jussi01> heh
[18:43] <jussi01> illusive: go try that guide and let me know how you get on :)
[18:44] <bobJR> i always install envyng core and type envyng -t in konsole
[18:44] <bobJR> and select my card
[18:44] <bobJR> and shes fine
[18:44] <bobJR> brb bathroom
[18:45] <anticreeps> Hello, can anyone help me with my problem i installed Kubuntu-KDE4 and i cant figure out how to setup the internet on it, im using aliant ultra high speed but not sure how to set it up on Kubuntu im newb trying to learn can someone help me out? right now on windows
[18:46] <jussi01> anticreeps: try in #kubuntu-kde4
[18:47] <ubunturos> does 6.06 recognize NTFS partitions (just for ro access?)
[18:47] <anticreeps> ty
[18:47] <illusive> Rebootarrific! brb :)
[18:47] <UberTaco> quick question, folks: I'm in a fresh 8.04 install, and for some reason, all links open in Konqueror rather than Firefox.
[18:47] <UberTaco> I set firefox as the default browser (from within Firefox, that is) but Konqueror still comes up without fail.
[18:49] <tw|st3d> how do i fix dpkg?
[18:49] <jaims> hello
[18:49] <jaims> I have a question
[18:49] <jaims> :)
[18:50] <jaims> I'd like to be able to mount a disk
[18:50] <jaims> but i can't
[18:50] <jaims> fdisk -l shows it as hdb
[18:50] <jaims> but mount fails
[18:51] <UberTaco> nevermind, found the answer
[18:52] <tw|st3d> how do u promote a account?
[18:52] <jaims> The device '/dev/hdb' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[18:52] <jaims> Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
[18:52] <jaims> partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[18:52] <tw|st3d> so he can use wine
[18:53] <jaims> and of course, mount /dev/hdb1 wont work as hdb1 doesn't exist
[18:53] <jaims> any idea anyone?
[18:57] <illusive> didn't really do anything for me - it starts up after the reboot (as before) and says there's been an error and it's running low graphics - and asks me to configure. I try to configure the settings - so they match my hardware exactly - but no go :(
[19:00] <smarty> hey guys, anyone know a good backup utility?
[19:01] <illusive> No, sorry :)
[19:02] <jaims> no, sorry
[19:02] <jaims> rsync
[19:02] <jaims> t:)
[19:03] <jaims> i think there are several tools to backup, that rely on rsync
[19:03] <jaims> rsync itself I've heard is good
[19:03] <smarty> how would you use rsync though
[19:03] <jaims> rsync is cli based
[19:04] <smarty> right
[19:04] <smarty> so
[19:04] <jaims> if you like it, it might be useful for you
[19:04] <jaims> but
[19:04] <jaims> I've never used it
[19:04] <smarty> do  ispecify the location
[19:04] <smarty> oh ok
[19:04] <jaims> :)
[19:04] <smarty> thnx
[19:04] <jaims> np
[19:06] <smarty> nice, someone is using FiOS :D
[19:06] <jaims> nope
[19:06] <illusive> oh dear lord - please let me figure out this gfx error :/
[19:06] <illusive> I'm sick of low resolution
[19:07] <jaims> bb all
[19:07] <_bobJR_> .
[19:07] <illusive> ..
[19:10] <wolfgang_> hallo
[19:10] <illusive> mjelloes
[19:10] <illusive> aww - I even greeted him nicely
[19:10] <illusive> :D
[19:10] <Gr3y__> anyone good with xorg here?
[19:22] <OGame> hola
[19:22] <wayneandleanne> hi
[19:25] <Gr3y__> hello
[19:25] <jussi01> hi Gr3y__
[19:30] <smarty> I cant get 4 desktops
[19:30] <smarty> I try to configure it
[19:30] <smarty> to 4
[19:30] <smarty> but it doesnt change
[19:30] <smarty> any ideas?
[19:33] <yacc> smarty, do you have a desktop switcher on the bottom of your screen?
[19:33] <yacc> smarty, try pressing Ctrl-F1, Ctrl-F2, Ctrl-F3, ...
[19:34] <illusive> mmm coke
[19:37] <Viper550> having installation issues
[19:37] <illusive> elaborate :)
[19:38] <Viper550> basically, I'm booting my Shift Linux disc (okay, it's Kubuntu based, heck it still has the Kubuntu usplash, but anyway), and I'm getting some I/O buffer error on /dev/hdc
[19:38] <domme_> hi, i want to make kubuntu listen to FTP-requests from certain MAC-adresses only, is that possible?
[19:39] <Viper550> oh wait, does Kubuntu Live CD have a seperate install option?
[19:39] <domme_> Viper550: the dvd has
[19:39] <domme_> didnt test the cd, though
[19:40] <Viper550> odd, my CD for Shift does...maybe it was a side-effect of that
[19:41] <Viper550> and oh great, CURSE YOU ATI FOR MY MONITOR NOT WORKING ON UBUNTU
[19:42] <Viper550> how do I force vesa mode with the F4 menu?
[19:43] <kax> hi, i can't move my mouse while a key is pressed and have no clue how to disable that feature. google brought something bout mouseemu up and changing /etc/default/mouseemu, but i dont have it installed
[19:45] <kax> tried installing it and changing typing_block to 0, but that didnt work ;>
[19:46] <Viper550> yay fe have life
[19:49] <afeijo> my kde4 lost bottom toolbar !!! What can I do?
[19:51] <bradhex> Please help, running kubuntu 8.0.4 and tried to "apt-get remove gyachi" which results in this error message: "cannot remove `/.': Invalid argument". apt-get -f install returns this same error, making apt-get broken basically. Any help would be appreciated.
[19:52] <smarty> are u running as root?
[19:53] <smarty> try
[19:53] <smarty> sudo apt-get remove gyachi
[19:53] <bradhex> Yes, i'm the root user when this command is executed
[19:53] <illusive> any suggestions how I can get back to running generic video drivers so I can get a higher resolution again - the Nvidia thing didn't work
[19:56] <afeijo> no one knows how to restore bottom toolbar?
[19:57] <afeijo> ok, I added some widgets, my old toolbar is in one of that, floating around, very small... so wierd
[19:58] <bradhex> rm /home/user_name/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc worked for me afeijo
[19:58] <bradhex> it defaulted to the original setup of plasma
[19:58] <bradhex> assuming you are running kde 4.x
[19:58] <afeijo> realy? remove a file? ok
[19:58] <afeijo> yes, kde 4
[19:58] <bradhex> then kill plasma and run it again
[19:59] <bradhex> it will auto-generate the config file again
[19:59] <afeijo> now to run plasma?
[19:59] <bradhex> yes
[19:59] <afeijo> how? alt f2, type plasma enter?
[19:59] <bradhex> yes
[20:00] <afeijo> did, nothing happen
[20:00] <bradhex> try running it in the shell and see what the error is reported
[20:00] <afeijo> <unknown program name>(9535)/ checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0x80620b8 50331649
[20:00] <afeijo> <unknown program name>(9535)/ checkComposite: Plasma is COMPOSITE-less on 0x805b658
[20:01] <bradhex> try and remove the /home/user_name/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc
[20:01] <bradhex> or
[20:01] <bradhex> you need to force kill plasma
[20:01] <bradhex> try that first
[20:02] <afeijo> forgot how to check a ps id?
[20:02] <bradhex> ps x | grep plasma
[20:02] <bradhex> then kill -9 pid
[20:02] <afeijo> ops, lots of stuff desapear
[20:03] <afeijo> I did kill pid, didnt needed the -9
[20:03] <afeijo> now I alt f2 plasma?
[20:03] <bradhex> well make sure plasma isn't running anymore
[20:03] <afeijo> isnt
[20:03] <bradhex> ok, then try and run plasma
[20:03] <afeijo> yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh, thanks !
[20:03] <BluesKaj> howdy
[20:03] <bradhex> np
[20:03] <illusive> Heya
[20:03] <afeijo> this is a great channel
[20:04] <afeijo> what do you use for irc? konversation/kde3 ?
[20:04] <bradhex> xchat
[20:04] <BluesKaj> afeijo:  sometimes
[20:04] <afeijo> installing
[20:04] <humbolto> for some weird reason compiz is started on my kde4 hardy system each time. does anybody know how to reliably turn that off?
[20:05] <illusive> Anyone got any ideas how I can return to the generic gfx drivers in ubuntu? The Geforce ones seem to be fucking up.
[20:05] <afeijo> changing app, brb
[20:05] <afeijo_BR> cool
[20:06] <afeijo_BR> my firefox font changed in kde4, what font do you guys use?
[20:08] <bradhex> the size or actual font?
[20:08] <afeijo> most size
[20:08] <afeijo> I increase to 15, didnt work
[20:08] <bradhex> i just set all my sizes to 10 i think.
[20:09] <humbolto> How can I disable compiz for kde4?
[20:10] <afeijo> I want to reenable compiz, I use it but since last kernel update mine broke, lol
[20:11] <bradhex> have you tried kwin afeijo
[20:12] <bradhex> it even supporsts the cube effect the compiz is notoriously known for
[20:13] <afeijo> kwin?
[20:13] <bradhex> yes
[20:13] <afeijo> isnt kde kwin? sorry hehe
[20:13] <bradhex> go to your system preferences, go to desktop, and then there should be something about desktop effects
[20:13] <bradhex> i'm sorry, system settings
[20:14] <afeijo> this morning I lost bottom toolbar, and all my screen was gray! no icones, nothing.  I alt f2 kwin, than I got something back
[20:14] <afeijo> ok
[20:14] <bradhex> yes, there is a checkbox for "Enable desktop effects"
[20:14] <bradhex> i'm probably wrong in calling it kwin then
[20:14] <bradhex> but, lack of a better name, i'll stick with it
[20:15] <afeijo> opengl or xrender?
[20:15] <ubunturos> root=UUID=<some_numbers> can be replaced with root=/dev/sdb1 ?
[20:15] <ubunturos> in menu.lst?
[20:16] <humbolto> does anybody know, why kde4 is starting compiz each time it starts up? I have not enable that anywhere and do not find any reference to a startup script anywhere.
[20:17] <afeijo> I enabled effects, enabled some of them too, like Explosion, but isnt working... I will keep trying
[20:17] <bradhex> what kde do you run humbolto?
[20:17] <humbolto> kde4
[20:17] <bradhex> is there anything in your kde4 autostart folder? I don't know much about compiz, but it's worth checking
[20:18] <humbolto> bradhex: no
[20:18] <humbolto> ls  -a .kde4/Autostart/ is empty
[20:19] <humbolto> so is .kde/Autostart/
[20:20] <bradhex> it would be in .kde4 anyways
[20:22] <bradhex> humbolto: are you wanting to stop compiz from auto starting or just remove it altogether?
[20:22] <smarty> anyone use Klik?
[20:22] <smarty> (or ever has)
[20:26] <smarty> anyone?
[20:30] <White_Pelican> hello
[20:31] <humbolto> bradhex: I just don't want it to autostart
[20:31] <blacktest23> WHY is it, when I start x (kde) CTRL+c+v doesnt work anymore?
[20:32] <bradhex> humbolto: do you use kdm to start kde4?
[20:32] <humbolto> no gdm
[20:34] <bradhex> humbolto: try starting kde4 without using a display manager. I'm not saying you'll see any difference, but maybe there might be a script that gdm would run to autostart compiz? it's a shot in the dark of course
[20:40] <humbolto> bradhex: I doubt that gdm is starting compiz, as compiz is not autostarted when I run a gnome session!
[20:43] <bradhex> humbolto: haha, yes, that would be a good assumption
[20:43] <testme> i installed kde4,after reboot im still on kde3, how do i solve this+
[20:45] <humbolto> What I need to know the most to solve this riddle is, if this is the default behaviour for kde4, hence if you are expreiencing this as well.
[20:45] <humbolto> Then at least I can try to remove kde4 completely and reinstall it.
[20:45] <testme> i installed kde4,after reboot im still on kde3, how do i solve this+
[20:46] <th1> humbolto, compiz has some weirdness where it will put itself into some autostart thing in gnome
[20:46] <th1> I can't remember where
[20:46] <th1> but it bypasses the normal startup
[20:46] <bradhex> testme: have you tried #kubuntu-kde4
[20:46] <browncoat2> is there a way to install kubuntu without installing grub?
[20:46] <humbolto> bradhex: no, did not know of the existence of this channel
[20:47] <browncoat2> or affecting the existing bootloader in any ay
[20:47] <Nece228> testme: well do u have autologin?
[20:47] <browncoat2> *way
[20:47] <bradhex> no, not for you humbolto, the other guy might find help there in that channel
[20:47] <bradhex> but hell, maybe they'd know, i dk
[20:47] <bradhex> idk
[20:49] <bibek> can i limit the size of the maximized window to leave some space on the border?
[20:50] <bibek> example i want to put widgets on the right side of desktop and make it visible all the time
[20:50] <bibek> so maximized windows dont cover it
[20:50] <bradhex> Has anyone encountered this problem: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[20:50] <bradhex> b/c apt-get is dead unless i can resolve this.
[20:52] <jussi01> bradhex: try sudo apt-get install -f
[20:53] <jaecen> question for anyone who might have experience with this. I'm trying to get a Linksys wireless NIC (WMP54GS). I followed the instructions I could find for using NDISWrapper to make use of the windows driver. Kubuntu recognizes the device but it's not seeing the network. Any thoughts?
[20:53] <peixoto> compiz
[20:53] <bradhex> jussi01: I get the same error
[20:54] <bradhex> jaecen: what does sudo modprobe -l | grep ndiswrapper return?
[20:54] <jaecen> compiz?
[20:54] <jaecen> one sec
[20:54] <peixoto> sorry, I forgot to hit CTRL-F
[20:54] <jaecen> hmm, assuming I entered it right, nada
[20:54] <bradhex> ok
[20:55] <bradhex> do sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper
[20:55] <peixoto> I am trying to autostart compiz, just like humbolto, but I will use it with kde 3.5
[20:55] <bradhex> then "iwconfig wlan0 essid YOUR_ESSID; dhclient wlan0"
[20:55] <humbolto> peixoto: I am trying the opposit.
[20:55] <aakash> peixoto : When you login, hit Alt + T
[20:55] <aakash> and choose KDE4
[20:55] <humbolto> peixoto: put a script in .kde/Autostart
[20:55] <bradhex> or you can let your network manager take care of it after you set up iwconfig with the essid
[20:55] <aakash> O
[20:55] <aakash> Never mind
[20:55] <peixoto> I already installed compiz, and I can start compiz manually, it works OK, but how I autostart it ?
[20:56] <jaecen> wait, wait, I must have done it wrong. I copy+pasted your command and I got :
[20:56] <jaecen> /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[20:56] <jaecen> ssmith@ssmith-desktop:~/wusb54gsdrivers$
[20:56] <bradhex> ok, so ndiswrapper is loaded jaecen, just do the iwconfig part
[20:56] <peixoto> thank you humbolto, I will try it now
[20:57] <jaecen> Gotcha. Ok, question. I opened up the network manager before and updated the wlan entry with the SSID and WEP key, is that the same thing the iwconfig does?
[20:57] <smarty> I'm having an issue that keeps bugging me... What hapens is, when I start up the computer (or login) I always get these 5-6 files on the desktop that are no use (firefox installation files along with flash player) i constantly delete/remove the icons, but when I reboot back up -- it shows up again ... any ideas how to fix this?
[20:58] <bradhex> jaecen: I would imagine
[20:58] <bradhex> jaecen: But if network manager isn't working i would at least manually give iwconfig a shot
[20:58] <jussi01> smarty: kde version?
[20:58] <smarty> 4
[20:59] <smarty> 4.0
[20:59] <jussi01> smarty: ove to #kubuntu-kde4 then :)
[20:59] <jaecen> Alright, I'll give it a try. For some reason the manager keeps either making the key ASCII instead of Hex, or it outright removes the key. THanks for the info bradhex
[20:59] <smarty> :) Okay
[20:59] <bradhex> jaecen: ndiswrapper might still have problems with wep though
[20:59]  * jaecen sighs
[21:00] <bradhex> jaecen: i could be very wrong though
[21:00] <bradhex> jaecen: you should google something like, "ndiswrapper wep support"
[21:00] <jaecen> ah well. I'd rather not run an open network. I'll probably just buy a supported card first, heh
[21:00] <jaecen> alright, I'll do that
[21:00] <bradhex> jaecen: there is no reason to do a open network
[21:00] <bradhex> but
[21:00] <bradhex> wep isn't necessary, you could do it by mac addresses
[21:01] <jaecen> fair enough
[21:01] <jaecen> I had forgotten that, heh
[21:01] <bradhex> yes, it's a pain if you have a friend come over who wants to use your internet, but that's their problem =)
[21:02] <jaecen> right now the pain is 3+ people in the house :P
[21:02] <bradhex> haha
[21:02] <bradhex> yeah, my room mates hate it when i get near the router
[21:02] <bradhex> laptops stop working and people start bitching quick.
[21:03] <jaecen> yeah, I know the feeling :)
[21:03] <bradhex> good luck though
[21:03] <jaecen> Thanks, I appreciate the help
[21:04] <bradhex> anytime
[21:05] <downhillgames> on 64-bit Kubuntu, it seams I have a problem with some plasmoids (I'm using the KDE4 repo posted on kubuntu.com), they show up as "Unknown Plasmoids" any idea what may be wrong?
[21:06] <downhillgames> btw I installed extragear-plasmoids
[21:12] <jaecen> Hmm, I may have found the issue. iwconfig is puking on permissions, even with using sudo -i
[21:16] <aakash> anyone got any idea how to install aircrack?
[21:16] <aakash> i tried the .deb , sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
[21:16] <aakash> it says it worked
[21:16] <aakash> (installed)
[21:16] <aakash> but i dont see it
[21:17] <aakash> unless I'm not looking in the right spot
[21:17] <jussi01> dpkg -L aircrack-ng
[21:17] <jussi01> iirc
[21:18] <smarty> "dpkg -L aircrack-ng" done
[21:18] <downhillgames> nobody? bummer :P
[21:19]  * jaecen is away: battling with his NIC
[21:19] <jussi01> downhillgames: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 perhaps...
[21:19] <downhillgames> oh, whoops
[21:19] <downhillgames> thanks jussi01
[21:19] <jussi01> !away > jaecen_away
[21:19] <downhillgames> !away
[21:19] <downhillgames> hah
[21:20] <wind-rider> hi
[21:21] <wind-rider> are there people with xdmcp experience here?
[21:21] <illusive> hi people :)
[21:21] <smarty> jussi, any idea what now? (after dpkg -L aircrack-ng)
[21:21] <jpant> Any idea why kubuntu install fails to mount cdrom?
[21:21] <jussi01> smarty: that should list all the files - you can then find the executable...
[21:22] <smarty> how to exec? from konsole?
[21:22] <jussi01> smarty: that or alt+f2
[21:22] <jussi01> is aircrack a gui prgram or just cli?
[21:22] <smarty> but doesnt dpkg deinsatll the package?
[21:23] <smarty> i think gui
[21:23] <smarty> nt sure
[21:23]  * jaecen_away is away: Gone away for now.
[21:23]  * jaecen_away is back.
[21:23] <jussi01> no, thats dpkg -r packagename
[21:23] <jaecen> sorry, wrong command, and apologies for mucking up the channel.
[21:23] <jussi01> jaecen: no probs, try not to do it again :)
[21:24] <illusive> I have an Audigy soundcard - got that to work just fine - but sounds from Firefox/flash etc - I have to redirect the stream - via PulseAudio. Any suggestion on how I could avoid this? :)
[21:24] <smarty> oo
[21:24] <smarty> ok
[21:24] <jaecen> anyone have any idea why I would be getting this error: wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801 : when trying to configure my wlan?
[21:24] <wind-rider> i setup a pc to act as xdmcp server, but i can't get opengl working on it
[21:25] <wind-rider> can it be that the screen that is logged into does not support opengl?
[21:25] <jussi01> illusive: asoundconf list then asoundconf set-default-card <cardname>
[21:28] <illusive> jussi01: You're my hero... Marry me
[21:28] <illusive> :p
[21:28]  * jussi01 blushes
[21:28] <jussi01> illusive: you are most welcome
[21:28] <illusive> thanks! :)
[21:29] <illusive> a winamp like player - any idea? :)
[21:30] <jussi01> illusive: audacious
[21:31] <jussi01> !info audacious
[21:33] <illusive> awesome :)
[21:37]  * wind-rider is away: Gone away for now.
[21:44] <jpant> Never mind. I found what's wrong with the install. It just that ubuntu does not like my lite-on optical drive: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=9a94fd80a5d3e42fcb97b2894678d1fa&t=2988
[21:44] <jpant> no problems with opensuse though
[21:53] <dr_Willis> thats weird -
[22:05]  * wind-rider is back.
[22:06] <enzo> hi
[22:06] <illusive> hiya :)
[22:11] <wind-rider> illusive: do you know someone here with xdmcp experience?
[22:12]  * afeijo is away: I'm busy, get out
[22:13] <illusive> wind-rider; sorry - I'm quite new here. Would've loved to help though.
[22:13] <wind-rider> ok, never mind
[22:13] <dr_Willis> !xdmcp
[22:14] <wind-rider> ubottu: i set it up for kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 remix by changing Enable to true in /usr/lib/kde4/etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
[22:14] <wind-rider> oh
[22:15] <dr_Willis> wind-rider,  :)
[22:15] <dr_Willis> enable it in the kdm config, restart kdm. connect from remote box.. is about all ive eer had to do with it.
[22:16] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: i saw the message of ubottu too late :)
[22:16] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: i did that, indeed
[22:16] <wind-rider> but my problem is that i can't get opengl / direct rendering to work on the screen xdmcp uses
[22:17] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: is DRI restricted to :0 ?
[22:17] <dr_Willis> wind-rider,  fancy 3d over xdmcp -  i dont think is going to be a good idea.
[22:18] <wind-rider> too much bandwidth?
[22:18] <dr_Willis> Ive only used it for basic desktop stuff.  In theory i dont see why it would be restricted.. but there may be a bottleneck at the network level
[22:18] <aakash> anyone know of any good wireless crackers?
[22:18] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: i'm using 100 mbit lan
[22:18] <cinex> aakash: airmon-ng
[22:18] <aakash> cui?
[22:18] <cinex> aircrack-ng
[22:18] <cinex> one of the tw
[22:18] <cinex> two
[22:18] <aakash> tried aircrack - didnt work for me :(
[22:19] <aakash> thnx, gonna try airmon-ng
[22:19] <cinex> why did it not work ?
[22:19] <aakash> no clue
[22:19] <cinex> they are the same aakash
[22:19] <aakash> oh
[22:19] <cinex> did u do a packet injection test
[22:19] <cinex> it might be your wifi card not being very goof
[22:19] <cinex> good
[22:19] <aakash> how would that be done :P
[22:19] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: but i get this error: libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted)
[22:20] <cinex> aakash: it is all on the website
[22:20] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
[22:20] <aakash> k
[22:20] <aakash> thanks again
[22:20] <cinex> you should check your wifi card against the hardware list too
[22:20] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: even though i had the DRI section in xorg,conf
[22:20] <dr_Willis> wind-rider,  guess  dri/3d may be an issue. Ive never really tried. I tend to use minimal desktops when i do remote/xdmcp stuff.
[22:20] <aakash> the aircrack site?
[22:20] <cinex> yeah
[22:20] <aakash> k
[22:21] <cinex> also you need to be in monitor mode and silly stuff like that
[22:21] <dr_Willis> wind-rider,  or i use xming on windows. to let me get linux apps on the windows desktop/
[22:21] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: ok, thanks :) do you have a hint on where else to ask?
[22:21] <dr_Willis> wind-rider,  google for the exact error message perhaps.
[22:22] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: i did that, and i got this www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1881
[22:22] <wind-rider> which does not solve it
[22:22] <wind-rider> or did not work for me, at least
[22:22] <dr_Willis> wind-rider,  so most of theapplications work fine on the xdmcp desktop. but a few dont? what dont work?
[22:24] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: everything works fine but i could not get DRI to work
[22:24] <dr_Willis> wind-rider,  sounds to me like you may want to google for 'xdmcp and dri'
[22:24] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: and i could not try it on a local screen at that time, which made me wonder if it actually can be done
[22:24] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: i'll do that :)
[22:25] <dr_Willis> wind-rider,  from my understanding of 'dri' i dont see how it can be done over xdmcp./
[22:25] <dr_Willis> but i could be wrong
[22:26] <Agent_bob> howto find out if a lappy has a built-in mic ?
[22:26] <dr_Willis> look for it? :)
[22:26] <dr_Willis> My laptop has a little bitty pinhole at the top. with a little mic image next to it
[22:26] <Agent_bob> dr_Willis i hope it's hiden  cause i don't see one.
[22:26] <Dragnslcr> Check the manufacturer's website?
[22:27] <dr_Willis> fire up a recorder.. and Yell at the laptop? ;)
[22:27] <dr_Willis> I was amazed that my laptops webcam worked with linux
[22:27] <Agent_bob> Dragnslcr i may have too
[22:28] <Agent_bob> dr_Willis well thing is alsamixer only has "main" "igain"   adjustmenst...
[22:28] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: i read now that just having an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 may be the problem, so i'll look further somewhere else
[22:28] <wind-rider> thanks for your time :)
[22:29] <dr_Willis> wind-rider,  err.. thats a rather rather low low ... end video card in the first place. :)
[22:29] <dr_Willis> My old laptop has  a X200m
[22:29] <dr_Willis> getting dri enabled on some of the ati/fglrx with that card was a problem for me.. its only under  8.04 that i was able to use the fglrx driver
[22:30]  * Agent_bob sits on floor and has low low end
[22:34] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: i know, but i got this mobo for free with cpu and memory
[22:34] <wind-rider> dr_Willis: nice for a home entertainment computer
[22:35] <Agent_bob> wind-rider that's the best kind of hardware  :)
[22:35] <Reformer81> Are there any GUI key loggers for Linux admins?
[22:35] <wind-rider> Agent_bob: i hope it is ;)
[22:36] <Agent_bob> wind-rider it's the only kind i buy
[22:36] <dr_Willis> Its a desktop box? egads. :)
[22:36] <dr_Willis> heh
[22:36] <Agent_bob>        "free"
[22:37] <wind-rider> i must go now
[22:37] <wind-rider> goodbye!
[22:37] <wind-rider> thx for thinking along
[22:39] <Agent_bob> i cant get any recorder to work right
[22:40] <Agent_bob> input device selection is inaxxessable
[22:56] <Agent_bob> advise me.  if you had a houndred pictures on a remote box that you needed to edit,  how would you go about it?   i have thought of copying them to the local box editing and copying back,   also of a remote desktop.   even of useing fish://   ?
[22:57] <Reformer81> Are there any GUI key loggers for Linux admins?
[22:57] <Agent_bob> search the package database Reformer81
[22:57] <Reformer81> Agent_bob: Yeah, there isn't one in the repos.
[22:57] <Agent_bob> in one way i hope there is not.
[23:05] <Agent_bob> woops.  wrong hot key
[23:11] <Agent_bob> wb @ /me
[23:18] <sergio_> ciao
[23:23] <mkargar> how to export messages in kmail?
[23:38] <jal> join #ubuntu
[23:45] <thunder_> ey alguien sabe como hacer llamadas por modem ?