| Brik | Hey all | 00:12 |
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| Brik | First time Myth guy and I have what hopefully is a simple question for you pros... | 00:13 |
| Brik | Anyone up for taking the question? | 00:13 |
| tgm4883_laptop | !ask | Brik | 00:13 |
| Zinn | Brik: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question. Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it. IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer. | 00:13 |
| Brik | ok - I'll ask away... | 00:14 |
| Brik | Dell laptop, D620, Svideo out from dock... | 00:14 |
| Brik | MythTV GUI looks fine on standard def tv | 00:14 |
| Brik | I used a bittorrent client to DL a video | 00:15 |
| Brik | It played fine on laptop LCD | 00:15 |
| Brik | Now when svideo is connected I get blue screen on TV and 1/2 of picture on laptop screen. | 00:16 |
| Brik | So, where do I go to tweaks video? | 00:16 |
| Brik | make sense? | 00:16 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yep | 00:16 |
| tgm4883_laptop | sounds like your tv isn't getting a resolution that it likes so it is blue, and the laptop is trying to span multiple screens | 00:16 |
| Brik | makes sense | 00:17 |
| Brik | except the mythtv gui looks fine on tv | 00:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what do you play videos with? | 00:17 |
| rhpot1991 | maybe a graphics driver issue? | 00:17 |
| Brik | player has its own resolution settings? | 00:17 |
| Brik | default with latest stable build of mythbuntu | 00:18 |
| rhpot1991 | what is playing the files though, mythvideo? | 00:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | you don't use xine or vlc? | 00:18 |
| rhpot1991 | or vlc or something | 00:18 |
| Brik | not sure which playber mythbuntu uses by default, stand by, i'll check | 00:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | when the frontend gui is on screen, are both the tv and the lcd the same? ie, are they mirror mode? | 00:19 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Brik, it uses internal | 00:19 |
| Brik | yes, mirror mode - mplayer? | 00:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I think I know the problem | 00:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I just got to think of the technical terms, as it's escaping me right now | 00:21 |
| tgm4883_laptop | basically it will only play video on one screen at a time | 00:21 |
| tgm4883_laptop | and your main screen is the LCD | 00:21 |
| tgm4883_laptop | we need to change that to be the TV | 00:21 |
| Brik | Whats weired is before I connected svideo output it played on laptop OK | 00:21 |
| Brik | when I play now I get the left half of the video on the laptop and blue screen on tv | 00:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hmm | 00:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yea that really does sound like a resolution issue though | 00:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what happens when you close the frontend altogether | 00:23 |
| Brik | of course its in a different room than the PC I'm at now :( | 00:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | is the desktop stretched across both displays? | 00:23 |
| Brik | I should have installed IRC on the laptop | 00:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | apt-get install xchat ;) | 00:23 |
| Brik | No, desktop is not stretched.. | 00:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | and the mouse is showing up on both desktops then? | 00:23 |
| Brik | myth GUI looks virtually perfect on laptop and TV at same time | 00:24 |
| Brik | issue comes when I play the video | 00:24 |
| Brik | yes, mouse on both at same time (mirrord as you put it) | 00:24 |
| jimboprobs | I was describing a problem earlier where I had broken my xorg.conf. Well now I've got it back to the (nearly working) state it was in before. | 00:26 |
| jimboprobs | The MythTV GUI is working fine on my standard def PAL TV, but as soon as I click watch TV it rolls so that it's impossible to see. | 00:26 |
| Brik | going to other room to install xchat BRB | 00:26 |
| jimboprobs | As if there's a problem with the resolution or the freq or something | 00:27 |
| brianBrik | Brik here, I,m at laptop now | 00:30 |
| tgm4883_laptop | brianBrik, whats your video card? | 00:32 |
| brianBrik | unsure | 00:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what kind of laptop? | 00:33 |
| brianBrik | D620 Dell with docking station | 00:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ah thats right | 00:34 |
| brianBrik | nvid | 00:34 |
| brianBrik | i think | 00:35 |
| tgm4883_laptop | it's a strange problem | 00:35 |
| tgm4883_laptop | lets try another video program | 00:35 |
| tgm4883_laptop | do you have xine or vlc installed? | 00:35 |
| brianBrik | was just going there | 00:35 |
| brianBrik | i have vlc | 00:35 |
| brianBrik | not sure how to browse file open with a .directory :( sorry basic stuff, I'm new to this | 00:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I'm not sure I understand | 00:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | .dir are hidden | 00:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | so you could view hidden files and directories in the file explorer | 00:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with that | 00:37 |
| brianBrik | right, my vid file is on a hidden directory (azarious defaut dir) | 00:37 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ah | 00:37 |
| brianBrik | yep, stand by | 00:37 |
| brianBrik | ok, interesting, opposite issue. | 00:38 |
| brianBrik | in vlc I have a blue window on laptop screen and see video on TV | 00:39 |
| tgm4883_laptop | interesting | 00:39 |
| brianBrik | Weird, I make the vid full screen and it swaps, I see it fine on laptop but get blue on TV | 00:39 |
| jasperbg | anyone know the status of the mythbuntu-trunk-0.22 PPA? | 00:42 |
| brianBrik | weirder, as I rezize the VLC window I get to a point where the blue window on laptop changes to a picture and the tv changes to blue | 00:42 |
| brianBrik | Seems like I have some weird extra wide desktop thing going on | 00:49 |
| brianBrik | So, is there a video config wizzard in mythbuntu? | 00:50 |
| brianBrik | HEY! XINE works, full screen video looks fine on TV | 00:52 |
| brianBrik | Funny, I need to watch 1958 "The Blob", long story. | 00:54 |
| brianBrik | BRB | 00:54 |
| jimboprobs | Any ideas why Myth GUI would work fine but the "Watch TV" would cause the picture to instantly scramble, as if the resolution or frequency were off? | 01:01 |
| tgm4883_laptop | jimboprobs, when thats happening, what happens if you go to the guide, is it scrambled too? | 01:03 |
| jimboprobs | As soon as I hit "Watch TV" it scrambles. | 01:05 |
| tgm4883_laptop | jimboprobs, right, but then hit the guide button | 01:05 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what happens? | 01:05 |
| jimboprobs | By "guide" do you mean Manage - Schedule Recordings - Programme Guide? | 01:05 |
| tgm4883_laptop | no | 01:06 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i mean when it is scrambled | 01:06 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Hit M | 01:06 |
| tgm4883_laptop | a little menu should pop up | 01:06 |
| tgm4883_laptop | is that menu scrambled? | 01:06 |
| jimboprobs | Yes, once it' scrambled it stays scrambled until I restart X. So if I press esc to get back to the main menu that's scrambled. I press esc then down then enter to quite MythTV and the desktop is scrambled too. | 01:08 |
| tgm4883_laptop | wow, thats strange | 01:08 |
| hads | Possibly a driver bug | 01:09 |
| jimboprobs | Does MythTV try to change resolution when it goes into Watch TV mode? | 01:09 |
| hads | No | 01:10 |
| jimboprobs | btw, this is only a problem on my TV - if I plug the same box into a monitor it seems to go into "Watch TV" mode OK. But I'd expect the monitor to be able to handle different settings better than my old TV anyway | 01:11 |
| hads | Odd | 01:12 |
| jimboprobs | Don't know if this is relevant, but if I use the Xorg Config tool (launched from the Mythbuntu config) it has the Res at 640x480 and freq at 60Hz. As this is a UK PAL TV I'd expect that to be 50 Hz, and one of the websites I read seemed to suggest 400x300. | 01:17 |
| jimboprobs | But the drop downs don't offer any alternatives | 01:17 |
| kirkland | superm1: ping | 01:51 |
| Brik | tgm - Thanks for your willingness to help. I have made some progress but I need to sign out now. | 02:05 |
| Brik | bye | 02:06 |
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| jasperbg | anyone know anything about when there will be some builds of 0.22 trunk available? | 06:24 |
| jasperbg | there's a PPA, but nothing in it: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-trunk-0.22/+archive | 06:24 |
| jimboprobs | Hi, I asked about something that looks to me like a resolution problem a few hours back, which had everyone who was online then foxed. Should I repost the query for any new people online now, or will you be able to scroll back up the logs? (Apologies, don't know the correct etiquette in these situations.) | 10:36 |
| darthanubis | just repost | 10:38 |
| darthanubis | its been hours | 10:38 |
| jimboprobs | OK, thanks | 10:39 |
| jimboprobs | The MythTV GUI is working fine on my standard def PAL TV, but as soon as I click watch TV it rolls so that it's impossible to see. | 10:39 |
| jimboprobs | As if there's a problem with the resolution or the freq or something | 10:39 |
| jimboprobs | Once I click "Watch TV" it goes scrambled and stays that way until I restart X | 10:40 |
| darthanubis | shot in the dark here: Check the tv playback profile settings | 10:40 |
| jimboprobs | Sorry for that, had to step out for a few minutes. Got a new symptom now - I left the machine in Myth GUI, it went into screen saver, when I woke it up it was in the scrambled state. | 11:15 |
| jimboprobs | By "TV playback profile settings" did you mean: Utilities/setup - Setup - TV Settings - Playback? | 11:17 |
| jimboprobs | And now that I've seen the problem without it being on TV mode, I guess that suggests the problem is somewhere else? | 11:18 |
| jimboprobs | I'm using a PAL TV here (UK), but the Xorg configuration thing says that it's set to 60Hz. I'd expect 50Hz. | 11:20 |
| darthanubis | <jimboprobs> By "TV playback profile settings" did you mean: Utilities/setup - Setup - TV Settings - Playback? | 11:39 |
| darthanubis | yes | 11:39 |
| darthanubis | <jimboprobs> I'm using a PAL TV here (UK), but the Xorg configuration thing says that it's set to 60Hz. I'd expect 50Hz. | 11:39 |
| darthanubis | Your xorg.conf refresh rate is just for your desktop | 11:39 |
| darthanubis | I would double check your mythtv backend settings | 11:40 |
| darthanubis | Make sure PAl is set everywhere | 11:40 |
| jimboprobs | OK, I'm looking through backend settings, not spotted anything that looks like it should be PAL that isn't yet. But I have got something that might be another symptom - the scaling is such that I can't see the Next/Cancel buttons at the bottom of the screen. | 11:45 |
| jimboprobs | I could only find one place in the backend settings where there's an option for PAL - I tried it on both PAL and PAL-I with no effect. | 12:19 |
| jimboprobs | Through the frontend though, under settings - setup - appearance there's a screen called "Video mode settings" which offers a choice for separate video modes for GUI and TV playback. If I try clicking that the only option is 640x480 at 60Hz for both. | 12:22 |
| obiter | can some one help me get mythtv running? I've installed frontend, backend etc, and I think the video card is supported but it won't show tv | 16:46 |
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| weiser | I have a weird failur on my mythsystem, I have a "nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT]" where I use the S-VHS out. some time the image starts to run like only 1 fps. When I restart the X server it runs smooth until next time, does anyone have a idea? | 18:59 |
| jimboprobs | Hi. I asked a few hours back about a problem I'm having on a Myth setup I'm trying to get running. I'm trying to output to a UK TV - PAL. Myth GUI and the desktop work fine, but when I go to "watch tv" the screen rolls to the point that it's impossible to tell what it is. It stays like that until I restart X | 19:27 |
| jimboprobs | It looks like a resolution an/or frequency problem to me. Various config screens say 60 Hz and don't give me any options - I would have assumed that a UK TV would have wanted 50 Hz. | 19:30 |
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