[00:12] <Brik> Hey all
[00:13] <Brik> First time Myth guy and I have what hopefully is a simple question for you pros...
[00:13] <Brik> Anyone up for taking the question?
[00:13] <tgm4883_laptop> !ask | Brik
[00:13] <Zinn> Brik: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[00:14] <Brik> ok - I'll ask away...
[00:14] <Brik> Dell laptop, D620, Svideo out from dock...
[00:14] <Brik> MythTV GUI looks fine on standard def tv
[00:15] <Brik> I used a bittorrent client to DL a video
[00:15] <Brik> It played fine on laptop LCD
[00:16] <Brik> Now when svideo is connected I get blue screen on TV and 1/2 of picture on laptop screen.
[00:16] <Brik> So, where do I go to tweaks video?
[00:16] <Brik> make sense?
[00:16] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[00:16] <tgm4883_laptop> sounds like your tv isn't getting a resolution that it likes so it is blue, and the laptop is trying to span multiple screens
[00:17] <Brik> makes sense
[00:17] <Brik> except the mythtv gui looks fine on tv
[00:17] <tgm4883_laptop> what do you play videos with?
[00:17] <rhpot1991> maybe a graphics driver issue?
[00:17] <Brik> player has its own resolution settings?
[00:18] <Brik> default with latest stable build of mythbuntu
[00:18] <rhpot1991> what is playing the files though, mythvideo?
[00:18] <tgm4883_laptop> you don't use xine or vlc?
[00:18] <rhpot1991> or vlc or something
[00:18] <Brik> not sure which playber mythbuntu uses by default, stand by, i'll check
[00:19] <tgm4883_laptop> when the frontend gui is on screen, are both the tv and the lcd the same?  ie, are they mirror mode?
[00:19] <tgm4883_laptop> Brik, it uses internal
[00:20] <Brik> yes, mirror mode - mplayer?
[00:20] <tgm4883_laptop> I think I know the problem
[00:21] <tgm4883_laptop> I just got to think of the technical terms, as it's escaping me right now
[00:21] <tgm4883_laptop> basically it will only play video on one screen at a time
[00:21] <tgm4883_laptop> and your main screen is the LCD
[00:21] <tgm4883_laptop> we need to change that to be the TV
[00:21] <Brik> Whats weired is before I connected svideo output it played on laptop OK
[00:22] <Brik> when I play now I get the left half of the video on the laptop and blue screen on tv
[00:22] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[00:22] <tgm4883_laptop> yea that really does sound like a resolution issue though
[00:23] <tgm4883_laptop> what happens when you close the frontend altogether
[00:23] <Brik> of course its in a different room than the PC I'm at now :(
[00:23] <tgm4883_laptop> is the desktop stretched across both displays?
[00:23] <Brik> I should have installed IRC on the laptop
[00:23] <tgm4883_laptop> apt-get install xchat ;)
[00:23] <Brik> No, desktop is not stretched..
[00:23] <tgm4883_laptop> and the mouse is showing up on both desktops then?
[00:24] <Brik> myth GUI looks virtually perfect on laptop and TV at same time
[00:24] <Brik> issue comes when I play the video
[00:24] <Brik> yes, mouse on both at same time (mirrord as you put it)
[00:26] <jimboprobs> I was describing a problem earlier where I had broken my xorg.conf. Well now I've got it back to the (nearly working) state it was in before.
[00:26] <jimboprobs>  The MythTV GUI is working fine on my standard def PAL TV, but as soon as I click watch TV it rolls so that it's impossible to see.
[00:26] <Brik> going to other room to install xchat BRB
[00:27] <jimboprobs>  As if there's a problem with the resolution or the freq or something
[00:30] <brianBrik> Brik here, I,m at laptop now
[00:32] <tgm4883_laptop> brianBrik, whats your video card?
[00:33] <brianBrik> unsure
[00:33] <tgm4883_laptop> what kind of laptop?
[00:33] <brianBrik> D620 Dell with docking station
[00:34] <tgm4883_laptop> ah thats right
[00:34] <brianBrik> nvid
[00:35] <brianBrik> i think
[00:35] <tgm4883_laptop> it's a strange problem
[00:35] <tgm4883_laptop> lets try another video program
[00:35] <tgm4883_laptop> do you have xine or vlc installed?
[00:35] <brianBrik> was just going there
[00:35] <brianBrik> i have vlc
[00:36] <brianBrik> not sure how to browse file open with a .directory :( sorry basic stuff, I'm new to this
[00:36] <tgm4883_laptop> I'm not sure I understand
[00:36] <tgm4883_laptop> .dir are hidden
[00:36] <tgm4883_laptop> so you could view hidden files and directories in the file explorer
[00:37] <tgm4883_laptop> but i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with that
[00:37] <brianBrik> right, my vid file is on a hidden directory (azarious defaut dir)
[00:37] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[00:37] <brianBrik> yep, stand by
[00:38] <brianBrik> ok, interesting, opposite issue.
[00:39] <brianBrik> in vlc I have a blue window on laptop screen and see video on TV
[00:39] <tgm4883_laptop> interesting
[00:39] <brianBrik> Weird, I make the vid full screen and it swaps, I see it fine on laptop but get blue on TV
[00:42] <jasperbg> anyone know the status of the mythbuntu-trunk-0.22 PPA?
[00:42] <brianBrik> weirder, as I rezize the VLC window I get to a point where the blue window on laptop changes to a picture and the tv changes to blue
[00:49] <brianBrik> Seems like I have some weird extra wide desktop thing going on
[00:50] <brianBrik> So, is there a video config wizzard in mythbuntu?
[00:52] <brianBrik> HEY! XINE works, full screen video looks fine on TV
[00:54] <brianBrik> Funny, I need to watch 1958 "The Blob", long story.
[00:54] <brianBrik> BRB
[01:01] <jimboprobs> Any ideas why Myth GUI would work fine but the "Watch TV" would cause the picture to instantly scramble, as if the resolution or frequency were off?
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> jimboprobs, when thats happening, what happens if you go to the guide, is it scrambled too?
[01:05] <jimboprobs> As soon as I hit "Watch TV" it scrambles.
[01:05] <tgm4883_laptop> jimboprobs, right, but then hit the guide button
[01:05] <tgm4883_laptop> what happens?
[01:05] <jimboprobs> By "guide" do you mean Manage - Schedule Recordings - Programme Guide?
[01:06] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[01:06] <tgm4883_laptop> i mean when it is scrambled
[01:06] <tgm4883_laptop> Hit M
[01:06] <tgm4883_laptop> a little menu should pop up
[01:06] <tgm4883_laptop> is that menu scrambled?
[01:08] <jimboprobs> Yes, once it' scrambled it stays scrambled until I restart X. So if I press esc to get back to the main menu that's scrambled. I press esc then down then enter to quite MythTV and the desktop is scrambled too.
[01:08] <tgm4883_laptop> wow, thats strange
[01:09] <hads> Possibly a driver bug
[01:09] <jimboprobs> Does MythTV try to change resolution when it goes into Watch TV mode?
[01:10] <hads> No
[01:11] <jimboprobs> btw, this is only a problem on my TV - if I plug the same box into a monitor it seems to go into "Watch TV" mode OK. But I'd expect the monitor to be able to handle different settings better than my old TV anyway
[01:12] <hads> Odd
[01:17] <jimboprobs> Don't know if this is relevant, but if I use the Xorg Config tool (launched from the Mythbuntu config) it has the Res at 640x480 and freq at 60Hz. As this is a UK PAL TV I'd expect that to be 50 Hz, and one of the websites I read seemed to suggest 400x300.
[01:17] <jimboprobs> But the drop downs don't offer any alternatives
[01:51] <kirkland> superm1: ping
[02:05] <Brik> tgm - Thanks for your willingness to help. I have made some progress but I need to sign out now.
[02:06] <Brik> bye
[06:24] <jasperbg> anyone know anything about when there will be some builds of 0.22 trunk available?
[06:24] <jasperbg> there's a PPA, but nothing in it: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-trunk-0.22/+archive
[10:36] <jimboprobs> Hi, I asked about something that looks to me like a resolution problem a few hours back, which had everyone who was online then foxed. Should I repost the query for any new people online now, or will you be able to scroll back up the logs? (Apologies, don't know the correct etiquette in these situations.)
[10:38] <darthanubis> just repost
[10:38] <darthanubis> its been hours
[10:39] <jimboprobs> OK, thanks
[10:39] <jimboprobs>  The MythTV GUI is working fine on my standard def PAL TV, but as soon as I click watch TV it rolls so that it's impossible to see.
[10:39] <jimboprobs>  As if there's a problem with the resolution or the freq or something
[10:40] <jimboprobs> Once I click "Watch TV" it goes scrambled and stays that way until I restart X
[10:40] <darthanubis> shot in the dark here: Check the tv playback profile settings
[11:15] <jimboprobs> Sorry for that, had to step out for a few minutes. Got a new symptom now - I left the machine in Myth GUI, it went into screen saver, when I woke it up it was in the scrambled state.
[11:17] <jimboprobs> By "TV playback profile settings" did you mean: Utilities/setup - Setup - TV Settings - Playback?
[11:18] <jimboprobs> And now that I've seen the problem without it being on TV mode, I guess that suggests the problem is somewhere else?
[11:20] <jimboprobs> I'm using a PAL TV here (UK), but the Xorg configuration thing says that it's set to 60Hz. I'd expect 50Hz.
 By "TV playback profile settings" did you mean: Utilities/setup - Setup - TV Settings - Playback?
[11:39] <darthanubis> yes
 I'm using a PAL TV here (UK), but the Xorg configuration thing says that it's set to 60Hz. I'd expect 50Hz.
[11:39] <darthanubis> Your xorg.conf refresh rate is just for your desktop
[11:40] <darthanubis> I would double check your mythtv backend settings
[11:40] <darthanubis> Make sure PAl is set everywhere
[11:45] <jimboprobs> OK, I'm looking through backend settings, not spotted anything that looks like it should be PAL that isn't yet. But I have got something that might be another symptom - the scaling is such that I can't see the Next/Cancel buttons at the bottom of the screen.
[12:19] <jimboprobs> I could only find one place in the backend settings where there's an option for PAL - I tried it on both PAL and PAL-I with no effect.
[12:22] <jimboprobs> Through the frontend though, under settings - setup - appearance there's a screen called "Video mode settings" which offers a choice for separate video modes for GUI and TV playback. If I try clicking that the only option is 640x480 at 60Hz for both.
[16:46] <obiter> can some one help me get mythtv running?  I've installed frontend, backend etc, and I think the video card is supported but it won't show tv
[18:59] <weiser> I have a weird failur on my mythsystem, I have a "nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT]" where I use the S-VHS out. some time the image starts to run like only 1 fps. When I restart the X server it runs smooth until next time, does anyone have a idea?
[19:27] <jimboprobs> Hi. I asked a few hours back about a problem I'm having on a Myth setup I'm trying to get running. I'm trying to output to a UK TV - PAL. Myth GUI and the desktop work fine, but when I go to "watch tv" the screen rolls to the point that it's impossible to tell what it is. It stays like that until I restart X
[19:30] <jimboprobs> It looks like a resolution an/or frequency problem to me. Various config screens say 60 Hz and don't give me any options - I would have assumed that a UK TV would have wanted 50 Hz.