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richiefrichok why is there no icon to install this OS? i booted into the special graphics00:17
richiefrichcause i have a VIA00:17
richiefrichwhats the script to install it00:17
richiefrichanyone please00:18
richiefrichit is gutsy 7.1000:18
richiefrichi need it for llinuxmce00:18
dr_Willisshould be an icon on the desktop called 'install'00:21
aakash_there should be an icon from the LIve CD -- Named: Install00:22
aakash_Beat me, :(00:22
dr_Willis8.04 is the latest. - but I dont use Linuxmce.  Id hope that Linuxmce has updated to support 8.0400:22
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richiefrichdr_Willis: not there00:22
richiefrichdr_Willis: can mi run it from the termainl00:22
dr_Willislook under the couch. :)00:22
richiefrichdoe you know the name of the script00:22
dr_WillisI normally install with the alternative installer cd.00:22
smartyyou should be able to install without having to need to use the Live CD00:22
smarty*Live portion00:22
smartywhen you boot00:23
smartywhat options to you have00:23
richiefrichinstall / specail graphics00:23
BenPa85hi guys, please can someone help me with updating my kde (4.0.3) version?00:23
richiefrichand some other options00:23
richiefrichbut nothing about installing from command line like gentoo00:23
richiefrichi know ubuntu has a script00:24
richiefrichdoesnt kubuntu have one00:24
smartyim not sure now00:24
richiefrichi see the icon on youtube00:24
richiefrichbut i dont have one00:24
richiefrichone my desktop00:24
smartydid you burn the CD yourself?00:24
richiefrichit took 45 mins to bot00:25
richiefrichi did00:25
smartytry installing another ISO image00:25
richiefrichi burned two00:25
richiefrichthere were no errors00:25
richiefrichi wanted to get linuxmce to install00:25
richiefrichthere are no packages in gentoo for that m00:26
richiefrichor arch00:26
richiefrichthose are what i use normally00:26
richiefrichso no clue?00:26
smartynot from what I can see00:26
smartyIm looking it up though00:27
richiefrich  ok00:27
BenPa85can someone tell me what to do, for update kde?00:29
richiefrichsmarty: ubiquity is what they said in #ubuntu00:30
richiefrichsmarty: might there be a kubiquity00:30
richiefrichor is it still ubiquity00:30
richiefrichcrimsun: ok00:33
BenPa85no one? :(00:36
crimsunBenPa85: for 8.04?00:37
richiefrichBenPa85: sure00:38
richiefrichBenPa85: apt-get00:38
xiaoboyou ren zai bu?00:39
xiaoboshu ru fa ze me ann zhuang?00:40
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crimsunxiaobo: ubuntu-zh00:40
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oscarhola hay alguien ahi?00:59
richiefrichcrimsun: my VIA is so slow00:59
oscaralguien sabe como  buscar mas servidores, soy nuevo aki01:00
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oscarsomebody speak spanish?01:01
BenPa85richiefrich: sry, was afk, which parameters for apt-get?01:04
richiefrichahh you can just apt-get update01:04
BenPa85my kde was broken, I've ran "apt-get install kde4"01:04
richiefrichahh you can just apt-get upgrade01:04
BenPa85k, I'll try01:05
richiefrichthere is  distro-update   or upgrade01:05
richiefrichim not sure01:05
BenPa85both work, but it says there is nothing to update01:06
BenPa85how can I check the kde version?01:06
richiefrichyou caan with like dpkg01:06
richiefrichi forget i think dpkg -i01:06
richiefrichBenPa85: you can -> man dpkg01:08
BenPa85ah k, thx01:08
richiefrichand see what the options are01:08
Bahaamay I ask a technical question ?01:08
chihow to fix my ubuntu?01:08
BenPa85richiefrich: I is for info01:08
richiefrichthere you go01:09
richiefrichinfo on a package01:09
richiefrichchi: why is it going so SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW01:09
richiefrichi love VIA01:09
Bahaacan I download ubuntu then download KDE from its site, to make Kubuntu01:09
chino it is move funny01:09
BenPa85richiefrich: THX :)01:09
richiefrichsure can01:09
richiefrichBenPa85: use apt-get01:10
Bahaais it a download program ?01:10
richiefrichBahaa: apt-get to install kde01:10
chimy ubuntu mous is no work01:10
richiefrichchi: and i hear your install is sllow01:11
chifor plese help to fix ubuntu mouse01:11
Bahaaand how can I make ubuntu support my language01:11
richiefrich /c01:12
BenPa85richiefrich: I've looked into adept-manager which tells me that installed version is 3.3 is this the actual version?01:17
j1luiscomo estan??01:20
BenPa85can someone tell me where firefox is installed from adept?01:22
BenPa85I'm trying to install flash-player but can't find the right directory ...01:22
BenPa85j1luis: hi01:22
richiefrichBenPa85: it would seem so01:23
j1luisfirefox installed for adept01:23
BenPa85richiefrich: thx :)01:23
j1luiswhere installing aplications for konsole??01:23
BenPa85ah sh** sorry guys, i've installed it without adept, now i've found :)01:24
ubuntu_$ sudo apt-get install "aplication"01:24
BenPa85ubuntu_: thx01:25
UberTacohey, for some reason my vanilla Kubuntu 8.04 install doesn't have katapault01:42
UberTacoand I can't just apt-get install it01:42
UberTaconor can I find it in Adept. Has it been removed from the standard repos?01:42
dr_Willis!find katapult01:43
ubottuFound: katapult01:43
dr_Willis!info katapult01:43
ubottukatapult (source: katapult): item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version (hardy), package size 414 kB, installed size 3144 kB01:43
dr_Willisits in main.01:43
UberTacoI spelled it wrong.01:43
UberTacoor rather, right01:43
UberTacothanks anyways01:44
j1luiswhere instaling progran with konsole??01:45
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)01:45
dr_Willissudo apt-get install WHATEVERYOUWANTTOINSTALL01:45
dr_Willisie: --> sudo apt-get install cowsay01:45
j1luisdowunload the program?01:46
j1luisdownoad the program?01:46
dr_Willisdownloading has nothing to do with it...01:46
dr_Willisthe package manager will download/install the proper packages. :)01:46
dr_WillisUnless you want to rephrase the question/clarify what you are trying to do.01:46
j1luisand with apt-get?01:49
dr_WillisWhat about it?01:49
j1luisdr Willis02:03
dr_WillisHowdy martijn8102:03
j1luisfor installing limewire02:03
dr_Willisj1luis,  it dosent do a lot of good to just say someones name in irc. :)02:04
ubottufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire02:04
dr_Willisuse frostwire instead of limewire.02:04
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j1luisSince I install it? For apt-get or adept??02:05
dr_WillisFor installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire02:06
dr_WillisI beluive its in the medibuntu repositorys also.02:06
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afeijowhere can I found volume control on kde4?02:10
mofuxhi, i have hardy running with a radeon 9600 + fglrx driver + xserver-xgl and video / scrolling of internetpages is kinda slow, when i try to remove xserver-xgl all i get is a white screen when i log back in to gnome... i couldn't find anything usefull on the net yet, could you guys maybe point me?02:23
mofuxsame goes for kde402:24
kjetil1001trying to install kububtu on a toshiba satellite. Litte progress. can that be done?02:44
filo1234hello i have installed kpowersave, but at reboot start kpowersave and other battery status icon too02:45
filo1234how is the name of power status battery02:45
filo1234i want only kpowersave active02:46
psycoIs it poissible to defragment my hd in linux?02:55
Agent_bobwhat fs ?02:56
Agent_boband why do you think it needs it ?02:57
* mr---t- though that was not needed inlinux02:57
Agent_bobmr---t- generally it's not.02:57
Agent_bobi have seen ext# fs with as high as 5% noncontiguous   but that is very rare02:58
psycoOh, well I have a diablo 2 error in wine and one of the solutions is to defragment02:59
crimsunI don't think it's terribly rare02:59
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crimsunI have about 6% fragmentation on /, but that's in part due to carrying this over from Debian Potato02:59
Agent_bobcrimsun what i usually see is .3 to .5 %02:59
DamienGI was wondering if it's okay to delete boson_crash reports from my home folder03:00
cinexpsyco: you dont need to03:00
psycoAlright then.03:00
cinexwindows is very sloppy when it saves files. it 'spits them' at the drive. its designed to speed things up03:00
crimsunAgent_bob: I'd say somewhere between 2-3% is not unusual for installs having seen at least three Ubuntu dist-upgrades03:00
cinexbut int he end slows it down. thats why you need to defragment03:00
* mr---t- thats what i thought03:00
Agent_bobcrimsun yeah but 5 is double that ...03:01
cinexlinux stores them properly03:01
psycoAnyone here played diablo and got the erro:03:01
psyco:Diablo 2 Unhandled Exception: Access_violation (c0000005)03:02
tony_hi all03:02
tony_im new to using kubuntu03:03
tony_i need some help please any one up for giving a new guy a hand?03:03
Agent_bobtony_ it's the second door on the left, down the hall there...  ->03:04
Agent_bobtony_ i mean stop asking for help, and explain what the issue is,03:04
mr---t-you scared him03:06
Agent_bobi guess so...03:06
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)03:06
tony_oh ok ill just ask away03:07
tony_im having problems with trying to connect to my wifi03:07
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:07
Agent_bobtony_ first visit that page and see if the answer is already spelled out for you   ^03:08
tony_it can find the wifi but can not connect03:08
Agent_bobif not we'll see if we can find one.03:08
tony_i put in my wep key but it just dont want to connect03:08
Agent_bobmr---t-  do you think he is typing and not reading... ?03:09
tony_oops sorry i did not look at the screen.......my bad03:10
mr---t- :-P03:11
Agent_bobtony_ it's ok.   and welcome to #kubuntu  by the way.03:11
tony_thx agent_bob03:12
tony_its my first day using it :)03:12
mr---t-many common issues have detailed instructions on the link bob provided if that doesn't help someone will still be here03:12
tony_ok mr----t just reading it now :)03:13
mr---t- :-)03:13
asobigot firefox 3, klipper and addons don't work03:14
filo1234wich is the name of power manager on kubuntu hardy kde 3.5??03:14
Agent_bobtony_ not trying to distract your attention, nor discurage you in any way.   but, the best way to learn linux, is to forget every thing you think you know about computers and start from zero.   it saves time and things make much more sense if you don't aproach them from an M$ mentality.03:15
Agent_bobjust a word to the wise.03:16
filo1234wich is the name of power manager battery_status on kubuntu hardy kde 3.5??03:16
mr---t-Agent_bob:  are you on a lappy?03:16
tony_agent_bob i will try my best03:17
martijn81filo1234: kpowersave?03:18
martijn81i am on sidux so i do not know03:19
filo1234martijn81:  nope i want use kpowersave, but at reboot start default power manager too03:19
* mr---t- doesn't use power management, on a desktop03:19
Agent_bobmr---t- yes and no.  why ?03:19
mitsdid anyone install intrepid and get very small default fonts?03:19
filo1234mr---t-:  i have a lap_top03:20
Agent_bobmr---t- i was looking for a kde app with apm or power in it's name but dont see one...03:20
mr---t-I'm desktop only so I don't know about power saving03:20
Agent_bobmits i installed dapper and got very small fonts   default = 803:20
martijn81Agent_bob: why dapper when we have an 8.04 LTS?03:21
Agent_bobmartijn81 cause it was two years ago03:21
mr---t-he he03:21
mitsi just installed intrepid and the default general font is dejavu sans 9... but i think on hardy 9 is the default too...03:22
mitschanged it to 12 on intrepid to get the same size03:22
Agent_bobmits hmm at least they up'd one.   but that's still to small for a default.  imo default fonts should be at least 1103:23
Agent_bobi generally set my fonts to 14  i can zome out if needed03:24
mitsAgent_bob: so maybe on my other installs the fonts look too large for their size number :D03:24
Agent_bobmits that's entirely possable   and would also explain why the defaults get set so low.   perhaps the guy setting them had the same problem with font rendering.   (displaying too large)03:25
di48lowhy is my kde missing menus in kubuntu?03:25
Agent_bobdi48lo kde3 or kde4 ?03:26
mitsprobably... weird though... didn't notice something like that in any previous install (even intrepid alpha 1 i check out some days ago)03:27
Agent_bobdi48lo in kde3 a lot of stuff is hidden in the default kmenu    you can run "kmenuedit" and dehide them.03:27
Agent_bobmits heh i have literally held up a magnifying glass in fernt of the monitor to see how to initially configure things, because the deafult fonts were too small to read.   no joke.03:29
mitshehe same thing on that install :D03:30
* mr---t- uses kmag03:30
Agent_bobmr---t- but how do you find it ?03:30
Agent_bobhave to find it to use it...03:30
mr---t-I pnig it sonar!03:31
Agent_boboh the ole' alt+f2 way...  got it...03:31
mr---t-he he03:32
Agent_bobwoe!  /usr/bin/klaptop_acpi_helper  has a switch "--toshibalcd"   </blinks>03:37
Agent_bobbut no man page :(03:38
Agent_bobwhat is  kpm ?03:43
cinexk package manager (im guessing)03:44
cinexkde package manager (im guessing)03:44
Agent_bobor power manager ?03:44
cinexgoogle it man03:44
cinexsounds good03:44
Agent_bobwould be easier to start it than google it...03:45
cinexDefinition: kpm: Process manager for KDE This is a process manager (top + ps and all) for KDE03:45
cinexwho won ?03:45
Agent_bobprocess manager03:46
Agent_bobwon ?03:46
cinexand my net crawls at seriously low speeds03:46
Agent_bobwon what ?03:46
cinexi did03:46
cinexin finding out what it was03:46
* Agent_bob wonders who won in finding out what it was... seeing that he asked cinex and cinex went to the web for him....03:47
cinexThat's not cricket!03:49
* mr---t- thinks cricket is a noisey bug at night03:50
Agent_bobmr---t- :)03:51
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smartyhi - is there a a way you can adjust the startup programs03:53
cinexin the kde enviroment or server type programs ?03:54
cinexthere is a directory: ~/.kde/Autostart03:54
cinexyou can put shortcuts and scripts in there to run when you log in03:54
cinexit should be documented in the khelp03:55
smartyok, let me check it out03:55
smartyone sec03:55
smartythanks by the way03:55
ubottuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html03:56
tony_Agent_bob I still can not get it working :(03:56
Agent_bobtony_ ok  you'll probably need to pastebin the output of "lspci -nn "   and ask for help with your specific wifi card,   unfortunately i'm no good with wifi / or network in general.  i'm just the cli / disk and file systems guy.03:57
Agent_bobcan someone help tony_ with wifi please.03:58
cinexwhats wrong with the wifi ?03:58
cinexi can set up wifi03:58
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:58
Agent_bobcinex he said that "<tony_> it can find the wifi but can not connect <tony_> i put in my wep key but it just dont want to connect "03:59
smartycinex: when I try to go through Konsole (cd .kde -> sudo gedit Autostart) I get the following mesasge03:59
smartyPlease check that you typed the location correctly and try again03:59
cinex~/.kde4/A <tab>04:00
Agent_bobsmarty don't use sudo for that, use kdesu and you probably don't have gedit  use kedit or kate04:00
cinexkde 4 has .kde4 not .kde04:00
Agent_bobsmarty also you can't edit a dirrectory04:00
smartythat would make sense :)04:00
cinextony_: must you use wep ????04:00
smartysorry, im a noob04:00
cinexI have never got wep to work04:00
cinexbut it might be possible to set it up with the iwconfig command04:01
Agent_bob!kdesu | smarty there are good reasons not to use sudo for gui apps04:01
ubottusmarty there are good reasons not to use sudo for gui apps: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)04:01
cinexwpa2 works well easy.04:01
tony_in knetwork manager it shows my wifi then it asks for my wep passphrase if i type it in here nothing happens04:01
smartyIt says command not found : kdesudo Autostart04:02
White_PelicanI'm interested in installing skype. It's not in the repositories as you know. I am running Hary Heron. There is a deb on the skype web site for version 7.04. Can I still use it?04:02
smartyoh wait04:02
cinexsmarty: do ls ~/.kde4/04:02
Agent_bobsmarty :)04:02
smartycinex: ok04:02
Agent_bobcinex he doesn't want to execute the dir either04:02
Agent_bobcinex "<smarty> It says command not found : kdesudo Autostart " <<< Autostart is not a command. it's a dir  :)04:03
smartynothin in that dir04:04
cinexya. u put shortcuts (like .desktop files)  in it04:04
cinexand scripts04:04
cinexso they run at boot04:04
tony_cinex yeah its my security so no one else can access my wifi04:04
Agent_bobi'll repost the link smarty.   http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html04:04
cinexyeah but tony_ can u change the format to wpa2 ?04:04
cinexor is it wep only04:04
mr---t-wep is not very secure any way04:05
smartytony_ -- what kind of router do you have -- i had the same issue but resolved it04:05
Agent_bobit's like most "locks" it will only keep an honest person honest04:05
White_Pelicanis anyone going to answer my question?04:05
smartyYou may have to change the type of key (in the kmanager) to WEP with 128 Hex or ASCII04:05
mr---t-yes but omly 64 bit04:05
cinexWhite_Pelican: sorry. go to the website04:06
cinexthey have a linux version04:06
tony_no the other option is web 40/104-bit hex.......and if i try to type any thing in there it does not give me the option to connect04:06
tony_smarty its a belkin n104:07
Agent_bobQ if anyone thinks they know...    is it better for the battery in a lappy to keep it fully charged as much as possable,  or to completely discharge / recharge it often ?04:08
tony_smarty is that in the knetwork manager?04:08
mr---t-depends on the type of battery04:08
mr---t-ni-cads ,nimh, li-ion04:09
smartytry both04:10
smartyWEP 40/104-bit hex and ASCII04:10
smartyI see,04:10
mr---t-Agent_bob: what type of battery04:10
tony_smarty i have tryed them both and both dont give me the option to connect04:11
Agent_bobmr---t-   <sheepishly>   " a laptop battery "  </sheepishly>04:11
mr---t-it will say on the battery and sometimes on the charger, ni-cad , nimh, lith-ion ect04:12
mr---t-they behave differently04:12
Agent_bobwithout pulling the battery it says nothing.  i looked before you asked.04:12
Agent_boband i was trying to find something in the manual..   but it would obviously be faster to use linux to identify the batterey04:13
mr---t-well then if it's ni-cad they develope a "memory" so it's best to kill them dead between charges...04:13
mr---t-if it's nimh not so much but they do still tend to develope a shoter life cycle if charged when not needed...04:15
Agent_bobmr---t- lshw says           description: Lithium Ion Battery04:15
tmbglithium ions battery don't develop much of a memory04:16
tmbgso you can keep it topped off if you like.04:16
Agent_bobso do they last longer one way or the other ?04:16
mr---t-ah the best (imo) option , has nearly no memory characteristics but I would still not worry about keeping it charged as they have charging circiuts to prevent over charging04:16
* Agent_bob is more interested in total years than charge cycle timming04:16
mr---t-thats my point if they develope shorter cycles every charge they have a shorter life04:17
mr---t-all batteries have some (even a little) memory problem where as if you charge them before they are dead that becomes the new dead point04:19
* Agent_bob doubts the integrety of that statement. think lead acid04:20
mr---t-batteries are made to be cycled , max life (imo) is to run dead or nearly so between charges04:20
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Agent_bobif you tried to apply that theory to a lead acid battery you would drasticly shorten it's total life04:21
mr---t-Agent_bob: it's not real computer type memory , it's a term used in batteries as in a new remembered dead point at a shorter cycle04:21
Daisuke_LaptopAgent_bob: what did you use with lshw to find out the battery type?  i grep'd for description and got nothing about a battery at all04:22
Agent_bobDaisuke_Laptop use with ?   nothing,  just  lshw as root04:22
mr---t-yes but I don't think lead acid  have been used in lappys04:22
Agent_bobDaisuke_Laptop you could specify   -C battery04:23
Daisuke_Laptopmr---t-: thank you captain obvious.  that was a big problem with NiCad, it's barely a problem anymore if at all with Lithium Ion batteries - 20 years ago, you would have been correct04:23
mr---t-so to max yourbatery life?04:24
Agent_bobmr---t- point noted.    sorry for being technical about "type"    you are right in assuming that it should only apply to laptop batteries.  my bad.04:25
Agent_bobDaisuke_Laptop actually "20 years ago" laptops were not.04:26
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smartyok back-- :) any idea how to isntall BitDefender? I have the tar.bz204:27
mr---t-sorry for trying to answer your question04:27
Agent_bobsmarty what is BitDefender04:27
smartySecurity Software04:27
naduguys i just insatlled kubuntu and i went to a website and it says i need java installed04:28
mr---t-smarty:  no not you04:28
nadushould i install sunjava-j2sdk1.5?04:28
Agent_bob!find bitdefender04:28
ubottuFile bitdefender found in icedove-dispmua, mailscanner, qpsmtpd04:28
smartymr--t: oh ok04:28
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper04:29
Daisuke_LaptopAgent_bob: was talking about rechargable batteries for consumer use (ie. not lead acid)04:29
mr---t-he specifically asked about lead acid read above04:29
Agent_bobDaisuke_Laptop yes yes.  i said sorry for keying on key word "all"  and bringing in l/a04:30
smartyAgent_bob : Sorry for asking such stupid questions... How do I install from the Icedove thing04:30
mr---t-and as i said li-ion the best option04:30
mr---t-so far04:30
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Agent_bobsmarty i was looking for a .deb package for you.   i don't see one.  so if you want to install your tarball package i'll have the bot post you a link you should read about it...   but i'll also have it post you a like as to why you may not need it.  k.04:31
mr---t-nadu: did you see the link for java04:31
Agent_bob!virus | smarty04:31
ubottusmarty: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2104:31
nadui got it sorted out04:31
Agent_bob!b-e | smarty04:32
ubottusmarty: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)04:32
smartyHaaha touche04:32
Agent_bobyou bet.04:32
smarty:) I forgot :P04:32
dragon_hello everyone04:32
dragon_hi smarty04:33
dragon_hi tek04:33
Agent_bobmr---t- now,  if only the rest of my lappy were as good as the battery ...04:34
mr---t-he he yeah the only bad I've heard about them is an explosino or two04:34
Agent_bobah that's no biggy.   as long as it's not over 6m-ton04:35
Agent_bobthis bunker is rated at 6m-ton04:36
mr---t-you can actually make a battery in your mouth if you have a metal filling and a piece of aliminum foil...04:37
mr---t-yeah got it04:38
mr---t-get your buddy to try it feels great04:39
Agent_bobdoes kwikdisk open a window for you ?04:39
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:39
Agent_bobtrying to figure out why kwikdisk is just sitting there doing d'nada04:40
Agent_bobnaught zero nothing zilch04:41
Agent_bobit aint worken'04:41
mr---t-kde 4?04:42
Agent_bobkde 304:42
Agent_bobwell it's a kde 3  app i'm looking at.   kde is not running.04:43
Agent_bobnot as far as kwin kinit is concerned04:43
Agent_boband of course "kdeinit" does start if you call a kde app... so  it should work.   other kde apps work ok.04:44
mr---t-I can't find it on my system04:44
Agent_bobreally ?      did i misspell it ?    "/usr/bin/kwikdisk "04:45
Agent_bobseems to have come from package  "kdf"04:46
Agent_bob!info kdf04:46
ubottukdf (source: kdeutils): disk space utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 336 kB, installed size 976 kB04:46
flaccidhmm Agent_bob keep !enter in mind. but um whats your error sorry?04:46
Agent_bobmaybe it's not supposed to open it's own window ?04:49
flaccidrun it from konsole, do you get any output?04:50
flaccidalso kwikdisk is a system try icon/program04:50
Agent_bobwhat's the kde command for the kde docs ?04:59
Agent_bobi tried kdedoc something  but only get an error message out of that.05:00
flaccidkhelpcenter Agent_bob05:00
Agent_bob/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs does not appear to contain your KDE docs.05:00
flaccidAgent_bob: what says that?05:01
Agent_bobanyone ?05:01
flaccidkdedoc is for viewing kde class documentation05:02
flaccidAgent_bob: yeah i get that too. i can't find a package with it in it05:04
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desmondNo Python OpenGL support05:06
desmondNo Python GTKGLExt support05:06
desmondhow i fix05:06
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Agent_bobdesmond what spit that error out ?05:07
flaccid!info kdelibs4-doc05:07
ubottukdelibs4-doc (source: kdelibs): developer documentation for the KDE core libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7.1 (hardy), package size 24941 kB, installed size 208916 kB05:07
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flaccid^^ Agent_bob05:07
Agent_bob!info python-opengl05:08
ubottupython-opengl (source: pyopengl): Python bindings to OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0~b1-0ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 439 kB, installed size 4964 kB05:08
desmondoh sru05:09
desmondi was trying somthing in 3d05:09
Agent_bob!info python-gtkglext105:09
ubottupython-gtkglext1 (source: python-gtkglext1): GtkGLext python bindings. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.0-3 (hardy), package size 140 kB, installed size 448 kB05:09
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Agent_bobi found it.  it's     khelpcenter   ffr05:16
Agent_bobbut nothing in it on kwikdisk either05:16
flaccid[14:00] <flaccid> khelpcenter Agent_bob  <-- thats what i said?05:17
cinexhave you tried man kwickdisk05:17
flaccidsorry Agent_bob what is your problem?05:17
Agent_bobi'm thinking that several kde things don't work outside of kde like they should.05:17
cinexor konqueror man:kwickdisk05:17
Agent_bobcinex heh.   i'm a cli guy,  yes that was the first thing i checked.  then  --help05:18
* cinex goes back to the corner05:18
flaccidi don't see any problems yet Agent_bob. what is the actual problem sorry?05:18
Agent_bobno no.   i'm just saying,  yes i looked.05:18
Agent_bobi was just wondering why it wouldn't open any kind of window.05:19
Agent_bobso i was also looking for some documentation on that     switch maybe  ;/05:19
flaccid[13:50] <flaccid> also kwikdisk is a system try icon/program  <-- thats why05:19
flaccidyou right click on it in system tray05:20
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Agent_bobmost kde apps seem to work fine when started in any DE  some however dont.05:25
flacciddefine 'don't' ?05:26
tung!info kdeinit05:28
ubottuPackage kdeinit does not exist in hardy05:28
Agent_bobpart of  kdelibs-bin05:28
Agent_bob!info kdelibs-bin05:28
ubottuPackage kdelibs-bin does not exist in hardy05:28
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Agent_bobwell.    </shrugs>05:29
Agent_bobwas in dapper.    or should i say is in dapper.05:29
Agent_bob!find kdelibs05:30
ubottuFound: kdelibs, kdelibs-data, kdelibs-dbg, kdelibs4-dev, kdelibs4-doc (and 5 others)05:30
Agent_bobmaybe they dropped the -bin ?05:30
flaccidAgent_bob: i still don't understand the problem/know what it is specifically05:30
Agent_bobtung ffr. where i have "*" you can put the full path to any file,   example /usr/bin/kdeinit  >>>>    basename `grep -Rwe "*" /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | cut -d':' -f1` 2>/dev/null   <<<<05:33
Agent_bobshould show where any installed file came from.05:34
* flaccid feels ignored05:35
tungi installed ubuntu first then the kubuntu-desktop package05:43
tungbut when i started kde it show the error comment05:43
tungcould not start kdeinit. check your installation05:44
Agent_bob"which kdeinit"05:44
tungi have googled it but there is no solution05:44
Agent_bobalso "sudo apt-get install -f kubuntu-desktop "  to make sure it's installed and not broken05:45
flaccidyeah its most likely broken05:45
tungReading package lists... Done05:46
tungBuilding dependency tree05:47
tungReading state information... Done05:47
tungkubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.05:47
tung0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:47
flaccid!etner | tung05:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about etner05:47
flaccid!enter | tung05:47
ubottutung: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:47
Agent_bobtung ok.   and you did "which kdeinit" ?05:47
flaccidtung: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop   (try that because it is a meta package)05:47
Agent_bobwho's calling the bot ?05:48
* Agent_bob checks to see if he has anyone on ignore05:48
flaccidyes Agent_bob you have had me on ignore and i've answered all your questions that you have been asking.05:48
Agent_bobflaccid was that you ?05:48
flaccidyes its me05:49
flaccidcan you hear me now? lol you put me on ignore05:49
Agent_bobi don't know why you were on my ignore list.05:49
flaccidprobably because we had argument or something. i actually answered every single one of your questions with solutions that you have been asking...05:49
Agent_bobthe kwikdisk question ?05:50
flaccidyeah and everything else05:50
* Agent_bob asked something else ???05:51
Agent_bobwell at the cost of repeting your self,  why does kwikdisk not open it's own window ?05:52
flaccid[13:50] <flaccid> also kwikdisk is a system try icon/program | [14:00] <flaccid> khelpcenter Agent_bob | [14:02] <flaccid> kdedoc is for viewing kde class documentation | [14:07] <flaccid> !info kdelibs4-doc05:52
flaccid(kwikdisk is a tray icon)05:52
Agent_boboh yeah i remember the kinfocenter question,  hehhe i found it anyway.      and where did kdelibs4-doc come in ???05:54
Agent_bobor were you sujesting that kdelibs4-doc now provides kdeinit ?05:56
* Agent_bob checks his ignore list again....05:57
Agent_bobyou aren't there this time. flaccid :)05:57
flaccidAgent_bob: the doc package means you can do stuff like kdedoc KConfig and you won't get that error from before about missing apidocs05:59
flaccidpays to not ignore flaccid heh :p06:01
* Agent_bob is so much richer now06:02
Agent_boboh not that kind of pay....06:03
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* Agent_bob is starting to wonder how long his lappy can do "cat /dev/urandom" on battery power alone.06:22
Agent_bobah finnly a warning light is flashing on it...06:26
Agent_bobwonder how long it will run like that....06:26
dsmith_Agent_bob: must be really bored06:27
Agent_bobdsmith_ yep.    must be.06:28
Agent_bobabout that long.06:30
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Agent_bobghost__ some names are just too popular ;/06:40
ghost__Agent_bob i see... i need to change that06:41
Agent_bobthat should work06:42
darcyhow do you find a program in the KDE menu editor???06:43
darcysorry - to add it to your menu06:43
darcyanyone, Bueler...06:44
Agent_bobdarcy konsole   which command_name06:45
ubottuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.06:45
darcyI have installed Lightscribe on my computer but cant' run it because I can't find the darn program. I don't know what folder to look for it under. I'm used to Windows where it is under programs...06:47
flacciddarcy: which package did you install?06:48
Agent_bobwhich lightscribe06:48
flaccidi can't find lightscribe in the repos06:49
Agent_bobwhich light<tab>06:49
darcyLightScribe System Software then LaCie LightScribe Labeler for Linux 1.0-r606:49
flaccidwe havnt verified the source of the software or anything yet.06:50
flacciddarcy: how did you install it and where from. it looks 3rd party to me.06:50
darcythe package labels are "lightscribe" and "4l"06:50
flacciddarcy: where are they from?06:50
darcyI installed it through Daemon??06:50
Agent_bob!find lightscribe06:51
flaccidwhat is Daemon ?06:51
darcywww.lightscribe.com and06:51
ubottuPackage/file lightscribe does not exist in hardy06:51
darcyno not Daemon. one sec.06:51
flacciddarcy: oh you should read their documentation and failing that, open the .deb in ark and look at the contents to see what binaries it has06:51
darcyya debian that's it.06:51
flacciddarcy: you might also like to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe06:52
darcyI'm still new to Linux. I don't know what you mean by binaries06:52
flacciddarcy: binaries are the actual program's executable(s). usually install into /usr/bin or something06:52
flaccidstill rule 1 applies here: read the documentation.06:53
darcysounds like I have some reading to do. Thanks flaccid.06:54
Agent_bob"use which to find the executable installed, after you use the tab key to get the exact executable names"  still works wonders.   almost as good as   "reboot will fix anything" in that other os06:54
flaccidno need to do which as its in the path already. you would need to know the binaries name06:55
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flaccidnp darcy06:55
Agent_bobin the mean time    dpkg -L lightscribe | grep bin/06:55
Agent_bobthe question was how to find it's binary/executable    "nothing says it has to be binary though"06:56
flaccidAgent_bob: thats a wicked command!06:58
Agent_bob"<darcy> how do you find a program in the KDE menu editor?  <darcy> sorry - to add it to your menu"  <<<  so i could only assume he wanted the executable's location.06:58
Agent_bobflaccid pays to listen to Agent_bob  :)))06:58
flaccidhaha took you a while but :p06:59
Agent_bobno.  i answered as soon as i saw it.    prolly had a full pipe tho07:00
Agent_bob-:- CTCP PING reply from Agent_bob: 50.160 seconds07:00
flaccidno you suggested which lightscribe07:00
Agent_bobno i sujested using which  and the tab key07:00
Agent_bobthe which lightscribe came much later07:01
flaccidthat was assuming the binary file is named lightscribe ..07:01
Agent_bobyep.  that assumption came after he named the package.07:02
flaccidwhy assume?07:03
Agent_bobdidn't have sufficent information to avoid it07:03
darcyAgent_bob: do I enter in light<tab> in the Konsole??07:03
Agent_bobdarcy the <tab>  means hit the tab key07:04
flacciddarcy: you are better to run [15:55] <Agent_bob> in the mean time    dpkg -L lightscribe | grep bin/  and see the binaries (however the documentation tells all)07:04
Agent_bobto help you find the executables name.07:04
Agent_boband yes after you mentioned that you installed it via dpkg *debian*   i came up with a better answer.07:05
Agent_bobbetter information does yeld better answers07:05
flaccidso does research.07:05
darcyflaccid: I went to the help website and followed it's instructions, but it does not say how to then run the program when you can't find it. I have it installed right but now I have to find the invisible program. It does not show up in my Kmenu.07:06
flacciddarcy: yes which is why agent bob suggested the dpkg command to find the executables07:06
flaccidfar out their website seems to have windows directions despite saying its for linux too07:07
* flaccid goes to install to test07:08
Agent_bobflaccid research?     ok, answer the question "how do i find a program i installed so i can add it to the kmenu?"07:09
flacciddarcy: follow the Links section of the ubuntu wiki page and download the manual for linux: http://www.lacie.com/download/manual/LightScribeLabelerLinux_en.pdf07:09
flaccidAgent_bob: yeah i found the entry on the ubuntu wiki. im looking at the rpm contents now to see what they have. still the research found the manual for linux..07:09
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Agent_bobin 25 words or less you can't genericly answer that question without assumptions or asking me several questions.07:10
Agent_bobreguardless of how much research you do.07:10
flaccidis this a game show now?07:11
Agent_bobno   just saying,   research doesn't help when you don't yet know what they are asking about.07:11
flaccidbut in this case we do know07:12
Agent_bobi might have been asking about   quicktables-2.3.tar.gz07:12
flaccidgoogle is quite handy..07:12
ilkinhi people?07:12
ilkinwhat does it mean -"Mixer cannot be found"?07:12
Agent_bobilkin what program gave that message ?07:13
ilkinI lost sound in Kubuntu)))07:13
ilkincould anybody help me?07:13
flacciddarcy: as per the manual, the base commands are 4L-cli and 4L-gui depending on if you want command line or gui07:13
Agent_bobit obviously means it can't find "Mixer"07:14
flaccidilkin: someone will help if they can07:14
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:15
Agent_bobilkin     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootin07:15
Agent_bobilkin what did you do that caused this ?07:15
Agent_bobi'm wondering if he has been playing in the package manager...07:16
ilkinI have just installed modem driver -linuxant for conexant07:17
ilkinwith alsa enhanced HDA modem support driver07:17
Agent_bobah you have been playing in the packages...  and alsa no less....  wonder why sound is out.07:17
Agent_bobanyway,  try restarting arts.  as per the bot  ^07:18
ilkinand also i have message can not build kernel... while starting Kubuntu07:19
macnoobhello there07:20
Agent_bobsounds like your install of the new stuff borked. ilkin do you have build-essential installed ?07:21
flaccidilkin: thats a weird error to have on boot. what is the exact error as it is printed on the screen?07:21
flaccidnevertheless sounds like you broke something07:22
ilkinno build-essentila is not installed07:22
macnoobdoes anybody know how to create an e+' , or an o+" ?07:22
Agent_boband your kernel source.       ^ installed07:22
Agent_bobilkin for building modules you'll need it.07:22
Agent_bobmacnoob i dont even know what chars you  are asking about  how to create an e+' , or an o+" ?07:23
Agent_boboh  i think i do.   but not what you need to do to type them though07:24
macnooblike accents on top of as letter07:24
Agent_bobyeah i cought on.07:24
Agent_bobbut don't know.07:24
ilkinI can not sya exact error tex however it says that something wrong with buildin kernel07:24
Agent_bob!b-e | ilkin07:24
ubottuilkin: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)07:24
ilkinis it possible to reinstall Kubuntu without formatting?07:27
ilkinis it possible to reinstall Kubuntu without formatting????07:29
Agent_bobubiquity didn't accept that in it's infantcy   i can't say about now,  maybe someone else knows if they have fixed that.07:30
flaccidilkin: don't repeat. if someone can help, they will.07:30
ilkinok sorry i thought message is not sent07:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubiquity07:30
Agent_bob!info ubiquity07:30
ubottuubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.12 (hardy), package size 2355 kB, installed size 8392 kB07:30
Agent_bobin short,   yes it's possable.   this is linux,  even the impossable is possable if you know what you are doing,07:32
ilkinbut how?07:32
flaccidi don't think there is an automatic way to do it but. i don't think ubiquity can do it as its also image-based install. you would have to do it manually in cli i would assume07:33
Agent_bobwill the native installer (ubiquity) allow you to proceed without formating / is your true question.   and i don't know about later modle ubiquity.07:33
ilkinok thanks07:33
Agent_bobtry it and see.   that's my advice.07:33
Agent_bobif it wont allow it,  just bail out07:34
Agent_bobflaccid image based ?07:34
flaccidwell i thought it was image-based. there is this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityPreserveHome but im not sure if its implemented yet07:35
Agent_bobi'm not sure what you mean by "image-based"07:35
Agent_bobif you mean like windows recovery disks,   no.07:36
flaccidit copies an image as opposed to installing from debian packages07:36
Agent_bobno.  i think not.07:36
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flaccidhow does it to do it then considering there are no debian packages on the livecd?07:37
Agent_bobthat would limit the root fs type and size to the image constraints07:37
Agent_bobflaccid sense when are there no .udeb's on the disk ?07:37
flaccidi dont understand07:38
flaccidi don't mean a disk image. how does the ubiquity work then?07:39
Agent_bobit's just a glorified frontend to apt basicly07:40
Agent_boberr dpkg07:40
flaccidhmm what is a .udeb07:40
Agent_boba debian package specally designed for ubiquity.  generally trimmed and tweeked to allow the setup of the base system so that one can then chroot the dpkg commands   if i understand them correctly07:42
Agent_bobi.e. to install libc6 where there is no system you have to use a udeb  cause the deb will fail.07:42
Agent_bobbut i'm not very educated on udeb's either07:43
flaccidso there are .udebs on the livecd and not .debs ?07:43
* Agent_bob reminds flaccid about research.07:43
Agent_bobboth me thinks.07:43
flaccidi am researching, but i aint finding anything sir..07:44
Agent_bobboth .udeb's and .deb's could be found on the dapper live07:44
Agent_bobhave a live CD handy ?07:44
flaccidubiquity has changed a bit since then i'd say07:44
Agent_bobdrop it in and mount + search it07:45
flaccidi don't actually07:45
flaccidim at my g/f's place07:45
Agent_bobi don't have anything newer than dapper07:45
Agent_bobi hope ubiquity has changed some.  it was very limited in dapper07:45
flaccidin my research i do have people calling ubuntu's install, image-based..07:45
Agent_bobflaccid they are probably refering to the squashfs image on the cd07:46
Agent_bobor at least should be.07:47
flaccidyeah im not sure, but you are right i do need t learn how this install works07:47
flaccidi still can't find a workflow for ubiquity installs07:48
* Agent_bob installs ubiquity to look into07:48
flaccidi think people got mixed up about this (including me) when m$ announced vista image-based install07:50
Agent_bobyeah...   that type "image-based" install is an fs image file that's copied to the hdd07:51
Agent_bobaffectively formating the and installing the system in one data transit07:51
flaccidand so the only requirement is to have hard disk space thats at least the size of the install image?07:52
flaccidwell you know what i mean..07:52
Agent_bobbasicly.  i think that they only image the fs and not the partition table   but basicly yes.07:53
Agent_bobkinda like   dd if=/dev/hda1 of=image.file     but with their fs size is not then important as it is with a real fs07:55
Agent_bobthat would not work with ext# for obvious reasons.07:56
flaccidand obviously problems would exist with vista there and hardware drivers because its not like a linux kernel heh07:56
Agent_bobyep   but they get around that with their ole trusty "scan all hardware and update" at each boot07:57
Agent_bobwhich i hate to see linux (ubuntu especally) moving more and more toward.   bloated slower and often buggy systems, simply for the sake of "just works", which often don't work.07:59
Agent_boband then the software buys just say "well you'll have to update your hardware to run it i guess"07:59
Agent_bobwhich really tic's me off.08:00
flaccidbut i didn't think ubuntu does any userland scanning of hardware on boot?08:00
flaccidits all kernel based08:01
Agent_bobthink xorg08:02
Agent_boband knetwork...08:03
flaccidthats different. i think the approach taken there is appropriate08:03
Agent_bobit's just one step in "that" dirrection though.   if it flys everything that can will follow.08:04
flaccidand kdm/X takes hardly anything to detect and get going compared to the boot process with kernel..08:04
flaccidi disagree as 'plug n play' style X is important08:04
Agent_bob"boot process with kernel" ?08:05
Agent_bobthis system will boot from bios to login in less time than it takes xorg to start.   well to start anything usable that is.08:06
flaccidyep. everything including and after init08:06
Agent_bobi can get an x cursor in about the same time08:06
flaccidwtf. i don't think so. my system takes nearly a minute to boot and when kdm is called it takes max 2secs to start08:06
Agent_bobthis system is from bios post to login in about 3 seconds.08:07
flaccidsay you kill kdm/X and then run startx from a tty. X starts up in very little time08:07
flaccid3 seconds wtf08:07
Agent_bobbut you already have everything loaded that way.  test it from scratch and see how long it takes.08:08
Agent_bobboot to cli   and then run startx08:08
flaccidive already tested all of this08:08
Agent_bobi have too. i'll turn my lappy on and you can time it08:09
flaccidits better to be portable which is part of the point of the linux kernel then to have configs and drivers for hardware explicitly defined in userland so that when it boots with different hardware, it cannot. detection rules..08:09
Agent_boblilo prompt now.08:09
Agent_boblogin now08:09
Agent_bobhow long ?08:10
Agent_bobit's better to be free :)08:10
flaccidi don't think time is an important factore here, we are debating what should do what and ubuntu only uses the kernel for hardware detection besides what Xorg does..08:10
Agent_bobthe kernel is the only thing that can be used for hardware detection...     what am i missing ?08:11
chachook i have a problem with an old linux install i did a while back.....08:12
flaccidxorg does some direct probing as well08:12
chachoit was when I first started with this stuff08:13
Agent_bobchacho describe08:13
chachoi installed red hat linux 6.2 and I dont remeber the pass word or the user name08:13
flaccidi dunno you were saying that ubuntu is moving more towards  "scan all hardware and update" at each boot which is userland08:13
flaccidchacho: try single user mode08:13
chachoit boots in lilo08:14
Agent_bobchacho tab key to add options08:14
chachook guys i gonna need a walk thru on this08:14
Agent_bobchacho actually you don't have to tab.   you can just press "1" and "enter" and it should boot to single user mode.08:15
flaccidchacho: goto #fedora for fedora help or google single user mode fedora. its just a kernel boot option..08:15
Agent_bobbut, iirc that will still ask for the root password.08:15
flaccidsome older linux may not require password for single user mode08:15
chachook let me see if they can help08:15
flaccidchacho: just do what Agent_bob said above..08:16
Agent_bobchacho so.  you may need to boot to init=/bin/sh08:16
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chachothats the thing guys I dont know how08:16
flaccidhe just said ow08:17
flaccidchacho: why did you come to #kubuntu for Fedora support?08:17
chachoi didnt know about fedora08:18
Agent_bobat the lilo prompt select the kernel image you want to boot and hit the tab key,  add the keyword "init=/bin/sh"  and boot it.     mount the root fs in rw mode  "mount -no remount,rw /" and set the password, "passwd root"     mount in ro  "mount -no remount,ro /"  and ctrl+alt+del08:19
Agent_bobchacho take notes  ^  that's how.08:19
flaccidnice job08:19
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Agent_bobfedora is a hat.08:20
Agent_bobdisk tracy wore a fedora.08:21
* Agent_bob wonders which is more important, getting the right nick or setting the root password....08:22
Agent_bob-:- chacho is now known as chacho_  -:- chacho_ is now known as helpthisnoobiw  -:- helpthisnoobiw is now known as helpthisnoobie08:23
helpthisnoobiecant talk in fedora w/o registered nick08:23
flaccidhelpthisnoobie: bob already gave you a solution anyway08:23
Agent_bobdon't need to.  they won't have any better trick than i just posted.08:23
helpthisnoobieok my comp is restarting gonna give it a try08:24
Agent_bobyou'll have to tell flaccid how it went,  cause i'm just on my way out.08:25
Agent_boband you're welcome.08:25
flaccidhmm i'lll be off very soon too08:25
helpthisnoobieok i guess i dont have dual boot08:26
helpthisnoobieonly thing i get when i hit tab is "linux"08:27
flaccidyou don't need dual boot.08:27
flaccidhelpthisnoobie: here is directions in a webpage: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-rescuemode-booting-single.html08:28
helpthisnoobieit says 'boot:' i hit tab then shows 'linux'08:28
flaccidand you change it to linux single as per the manual above08:28
flaccidgoogle does wonders for those that use it08:28
helpthisnoobiei was using it and i have seen this manual08:29
helpthisnoobieI cant get it to work08:29
helpthisnoobieplus i dont have grub and I dont know wha grub is08:30
flaccid!doesntwork | helpthisnoobie08:30
ubottuhelpthisnoobie: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.08:30
flaccidhelpthisnoobie: i don't think you actually read the above link! it says: If you are using LILO, specify one of these options at the LILO boot prompt (if you are using the graphical LILO, you must press [Ctrl]-[x] to exit the graphical screen and go to the boot: prompt):08:31
flaccidif you cannot understand this kind of stuff then maybe its too hard for you08:32
helpthisnoobiethanx guys....I thought this was a community that wanted to help each other08:34
helpthisnoobielike i said...I new to this and trying to learn08:34
helpthisnoobiethanx anyway08:34
flaccidwe have helped you08:34
flacciddepsite asking in the wrong place. now thats a pretty good community if you ask me08:35
helpthisnoobieand i appreciate that....08:35
flaccidpretty good for unpaid support isnt it08:36
flaccidhelpthisnoobie: here is the 6.2 manual entry: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-6.2-Manual/ref-guide/s1-sysadmin-boot.html  (says same thing for lilo: linux single)08:44
helpthisnoobieok looks like im in single user mode....i have 'bash#' prompt08:49
flaccidcool. now you can passwd root and set a new passwd08:49
flaccidactually just passwd is fine as you are root already08:50
helpthisnoobielooks like I did it08:51
helpthisnoobiectrl+alt+del now08:51
flaccidno. issue command reboot08:51
holahi guys, when my kubuntu starts, compiz is active but i want it unactive at the start....how can i do?08:51
flaccidhelpthisnoobie: or if you don't have that in that rhl 6.2 you can probably do runlevel 608:52
helpthisnoobieok rebooting now08:52
flaccidhelpthisnoobie: actually hehe the manually says to do shutdown -r now which is probably the same thing heh08:53
flaccidthey say this because: "Although the reboot and halt commands are now "smart" enough to invoke shutdown if run while the system is in runlevels 1-5, it is a bad habit to get into, as not all Linux-like operating systems have this feature."08:53
* flaccid brb08:54
helpthisnoobiethis thing is old and slow....but just using it to leard08:54
helpthisnoobielearn even08:55
emonsis there anyone?08:59
emonsi think i need some help08:59
emonsim not able to open my hard disks08:59
emonsit says permission denied08:59
emonsand it doesn't let me mount them either08:59
emonssomeone can help?08:59
emonshel please09:00
emonshello? can someone help?09:01
willluongo1Did you try it as root?09:02
steve___Hello all.  Greetings from Rock Hill, South Carolina, USA.09:03
emonsim wuite of a newbie in kubuntu09:03
emonsi dunno what that means09:03
Algyz!hi | steve___09:03
ubottusteve___: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:03
willluongo1try mounting it with the command sudo in front09:03
cyberponixdoes anyone know how to get a six sided cube in kde 4 using the advanced desktop settings or is there another way?09:03
flaccid!enter | emons09:03
ubottuemons: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:03
flaccid!kde4 | cyberponix09:04
ubottucyberponix: KDE 4.0.5 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde409:04
steve___I have FINALLY got Kunbutu to be able to connect to the internet.  WAAAA HOOOO!09:04
flaccidemons: try mounting/enabling in system settings -> disk and filesystems, do you get an error?09:04
baudthiefI'm running compiz fusion with twinview, everything is great until I try and play a fullscreen game. The game appears on one screen with half of it cut off09:21
baudthiefis there a way to make it utilise only one monitor?09:22
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fredthemonkeyi am trying to compile gnunet. to get it working the readme says that i must install various packages - libextractor-dev is one of them. But when i try to do so, adept says the package is broken :( Does anyone know what to do now?09:28
stevenyhello:) I can't find my poor little mp3 player now that I upgraded to 8.04 :( http://pastebin.com/d2dba97f509:29
flaccid!info libextractor-dev09:30
ubottulibextractor-dev (source: libextractor): extracts meta-data from files of arbitrary type (development). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.18a-2 (hardy), package size 23 kB, installed size 296 kB09:30
flaccidfredthemonkey: paste/bin the exact/all of the error09:30
fredthemonkeyyou mean when i install it with apt-get? okay wait a sec09:31
stevenyany luck??? http://pastebin.com/d2dba97f5 beforeit was plug and play...now it is plug and charge(no more play:( )09:32
fredthemonkeythe errors are in german, but it says that there is a needed package libextractor1c2a (= 0.5.18a-2) is installed but 0.5.20-2~ppa0 should be installed :?09:34
fredthemonkey*the package is not installed yet i mean09:34
flaccidfredthemonkey: pastebin sudo apt-cache madison libextractor-dev09:34
Algyzfredthemonkey:  try with sudo aptitude09:37
flaccidthat won't help Algyz09:38
fredthemonkeyit says that it will deinstall a package and install a new one09:38
flaccidcool, i guess aptitude does some fuzzy logic then, my bad09:39
Algyzyes ;)09:39
Algyzit is better managing with dependencies09:40
fredthemonkeyi guess i compile it myself. where can i get the source?09:42
stevenyno one can spare a minute:(09:43
flaccidsteveny: people will help you if they can. its not about sparing minutes.09:43
flaccid!info gnunet | fredthemonkey why would you its in the repos09:44
ubottufredthemonkey why would you its in the repos: gnunet (source: gnunet): secure, trust-based peer-to-peer framework (meta). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-2ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 37 kB, installed size 68 kB09:44
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fredthemonkeywell the version from the repos didnt really work, too09:45
fredthemonkeyso i want to compile it myself09:45
flacciddidn't really work ? <== what exactly didn't really work?09:46
flaccidyou are welcome to google to find the projects home page and source. we shouldn't have to do that for you..09:46
fredthemonkeyyes i found the source, sorry.09:47
fredthemonkeywell the errors were that it didnt seem to work properly, there were some errors and the repo didnt seem to work fine, too (adept always wanted to update another broken package)09:48
flaccidif you give us specific errors/problems we can help with solutions. but a doesn't work description doesn't really help either of us09:49
fredthemonkeythe deamon didnt start automatically when i ran it from the gtk gui. and also i couldnt download any files - i tried a "COPYING" license with only a few kb and it didnt work09:50
fredthemonkeyi mean i started the deamon first before i tried to download that file09:51
flaccidyou can turn on the daemon for auto in system settings - system services09:51
flaccidand if not fails you can check logs/ run manual etc.09:51
fredthemonkeyokay thanks - but i guess i am better off when i compile it myself because the gnunet repo is buggy09:52
flaccidum i don't think so. its not in a 'gnunet repo' and im not sure how the repos is buggy and how you would be better off compiling especially because you could have the same problem with that compiled version etc.09:58
fredthemonkeyfirst the official repo didnt work - so you have to add the gnunet repo which has that bug09:58
flaccidi installed gnunet from the universe repos without problem, and we are here to help with specific errors etc.09:59
fredthemonkeyokay sorry09:59
fredthemonkeywell i tried it yesterday so i dont know the exact error anymore10:00
flaccidfredthemonkey: run sudo aptitude install gnunet and advise any specific errors to get some help..10:00
flaccid(if needed)10:00
fredthemonkeyokay i'll do that10:00
emonshi guyz10:02
emonswhat kate for kde?10:02
emonswhatz the command?10:02
fredthemonkeynow i know it: it wasnt the last version. in the official repos it is 0.7.3, but in the other from gnunet it is 0.8.0 or so10:02
fredthemonkeyemons: type kate in a konsole?10:02
emonsyes im trying to modify fstab10:02
emonsbut kate command seems not to be working10:03
emonskate /etc/fstab10:03
emonshow do i do that?10:03
emonsit isnt kate it seems10:03
flaccidemons: kdesudo kate /etc/fstab (you need root privs)10:03
flaccid!enter emons10:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about enter emons10:03
emonsim in the root10:03
flaccid!enter | emos for the last time please abide by this rule10:03
ubottuemos for the last time please abide by this rule: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:03
fredthemonkeyan okay - now i got the error. gnunet from the official repo is a bit outdated, but seems to work fine. gnunet-gtk doesnt: libgnunetutil.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:03
emonssorry flaccid?10:04
emonswhat happened?10:04
fredthemonkeyemons, dont press enter after each sentence.10:04
emonsah alright im sorry10:05
flaccidfredthemonkey: if you use gnunet-gtk or gnunet-qt from the ubuntu repos you won't get that error..10:05
fredthemonkeyno i just installed it from the ubuntu repo and it gave me that error i posted10:06
flaccidfredthemonkey: what command gave you the error?10:06
fredthemonkeythat error came by just running it10:07
flaccid[19:06] <flaccid> fredthemonkey: what command gave you the error?10:07
flaccid'just running it' is not a command10:08
flaccidand that was installed from the ubuntu repos fredthemonkey?10:09
flaccidfredthemonkey: if it was then its a bug. ie. package maintainer didn't include it in the package and a bug report should be submitted. to get around this i would just use gnunet-qt from the repos.10:10
fredthemonkeyokay i'll fill a bug report. yes it was from the repos. and i'll try gnunet-qt now10:11
flaccidok good luck then10:11
fredthemonkeyhere we go with the next error. i type gnunet-qt, some gui flashes for a sec and the console says Segmentation fault10:14
illusiveanyone know anything similar to daemon tools for ubuntu? :)10:22
fredthemonkeyyou can mount isos by konsole10:24
usamaHello Everyone!10:25
usamaHow can I chanage titlebar color?10:25
maxen_hi everyone10:26
maxen_I would like to know how to update my kubuntu ?10:27
jussi01!mount | illusive10:28
ubottuillusive: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter10:28
usamamaxen_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade10:28
usamamaxen_: np :)10:30
flaccidfredthemonkey: another bug. so you could be right. you might have to compile it.10:33
flaccid!iso | illusive10:33
ubottuillusive: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.10:33
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flaccid!adept | maxen_10:34
ubottumaxen_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto10:34
usamaFrom color management in kcontrol i am tring to change the active titlebar color but its not changing, can anylone tell me that why the color is not changing and how can i change it?10:34
flaccidi gtg10:34
neoneuroneHi all. I've just installed the Kubuntu-kde4 but Ubuntu seems to hang after display the line "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20". Any idea please ?10:34
fredthemonkeywell where can i submit a bugreport for these 2 broken packages?10:39
flaccid!bugs | fredthemonkey10:41
ubottufredthemonkey: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots10:41
flaccidcommunity would much appreciate that10:41
flaccidjust make sure you include that missing file error etc. which is the most important part10:41
fredthemonkeyflaccid: thanks10:41
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vivzyi need headr file conio.h..whch packg shud i install..?any111:13
Takedauhm.. it's an Official  chan ?11:13
vivzycan any1 help me?11:14
jussi01!find conio.h11:26
ubottuFile conio.h found in brickos, elks-libc, mingw32-runtime, wine-dev, z88dk-data11:26
nathan__!find webmin11:26
ubottuFile webmin found in awstats, dahb-html, fail2ban, icedove-dispmua, logcheck-database (and 2 others)11:26
jussi01vivzy: ^^11:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about awstats11:27
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.11:27
ubottuebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox11:27
jussi01!botabuse > nathan__11:27
ubottunathan__, please see my private message11:27
vivzyhw can i get lib fnctions of conio.h???11:28
jussi01vivzy: what is the program wanting it?11:28
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vivzy@<jussi01>:i wanna use the fnctn kbhit and getch..11:29
jussi01!tab vivzy11:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tab vivzy11:29
jussi01!tab |  vivzy11:30
ubottuvivzy: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.11:30
vivzyubottu: thnx man..hehe..11:32
ubottuvivzy: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:32
vivzyjussi01: dint get u?11:32
jussi01vivzy: I was calling the bot for you :)11:33
jussi01ubottu: is a bot11:33
ubottuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.11:33
GTSCan i connect to irc using telnet?11:33
vivzyubottu: wh r bots?o11:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wh r bots?o11:33
jussi01vivzy:  bot is short for robot11:34
vivzyjussi01: yaya got tht..11:34
vivzyubottu: can u  help me...pckg 4 conio.h?11:35
ubottuvivzy: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:35
vivzyjussi01: hw to ask queries to the bot?11:35
jussi01!bot | vivzy11:36
ubottuvivzy: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:36
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ActionParsniphey all11:39
ActionParsnipif i uninstall knetworkmanager will my network interfaces stop working or it merely a config tool?11:39
bazhangActionParsnip, to use wicd or other11:40
vivzyjussi01: can u temme abt this factoids? hw n whn to use them11:41
jussi01vivzy: theyu are useful to call when someone needs information the bot has - it is just a way of saving time on frequently asked questions.11:41
jussi01if you want to play with them, go tot #ubuntu-bots and try them out11:42
ActionParsnipbazhang: im using wifi11:42
ActionParsnipbazhang: but is it just a config tool as i have manually populated /etc/network/interfaces11:43
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bazhangActionParsnip, well to use wicd you need to remove it, so guessing wifi will still function without it11:43
yaccActionParsnip, in my personal experience, KNetworkManager stops working properly if you have something configured in interfaces, but you mileage may vary.11:44
bazhangActionParsnip, ie using ifconfig etc will still function11:44
yaccActionParsnip, but if you are prepared to manage the interfaces manually, you can drop it.11:44
ActionParsnipyacc: awesome, just trying to skim down my system11:44
yaccActionParsnip, And naturally the backend that does the evil config stuff like network-manager11:44
yaccActionParsnip, Well, there is a simple way to skim it down. Drop KDE, Drop Gnome, use something like ion3, and only the apps you need :-P11:45
ActionParsnipyacc: way ahead of you. Im using fluxbox11:45
yaccActionParsnip, checkout ion3, it's clearly even more bare, OTOH, it's useful, it's optimized for non-mouse users :-P11:47
ActionParsnipyacc: Im checking it now11:47
ActionParsnipyacc: wow thats not too different to kde2 :D11:48
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MinnozzHi, I was changing the mount points of several drives in/attached to my pc, so I edited fstab. But now I'm wondering what controls what is displayed in "media:/", because it contains drives I don't want to be able to mount at all12:08
Boinchi all, im thinking of switching to kubuntu but need to be sure it supports my hardware first. Does it support really high spec systems?12:11
bazhangBoinc, what specs12:12
BoincAsus P5 mobo, Intel Quad q6850 extreme processor, Nvidia 8800GTX 768MB , Nvidia 8600GT 512MB, 4gig 1066 RAM, Triple Monitor, 3x Sata2 Drives (2 running raid 1)12:14
Boincbazhang ^^12:16
bazhang!hcl | Boinc check this first12:18
ubottuBoinc check this first: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection12:18
Boincbazhang - in the case of my mobo they dont have the exact same P5 as mine but they have others P5 boards by Asus. Is that a good indication it will work?12:20
jussi01Boinc: why dont you just grab a live cd and see?12:21
Boincbecause i run a business and i cannot spare the time to be formatting, testing, and if it doenst work re-formatting and putting everything back12:21
Boincif it works and makes my system more stable i can spare the time to mess around getting it working12:22
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter12:22
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions12:22
Boincubottu - was that directed at me?12:22
ubottuBoinc: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:22
BoincMinnozz - was that directed at me?12:23
jussi01Boinc: a live cd meand you boot from the cd - the os runs from the cd, so you check it out without installing12:23
MinnozzBoinc: No sorry, I needed the info myself12:23
BoincMinnozz - :)12:23
jussi01Minnozz: please use #ubuntu-bots for that in future12:24
Boincjussi01 - but surely it wont have the drivers for my hardware on there?12:24
jussi01Boinc: except the nividia card drivers, of course it will12:24
jussi01Boinc: most of the drivers are built into the kernel12:24
Boincohhh excellent12:25
Boinceven for my network printer?12:25
jussi01Boinc: you can install stuff onto the "live" area and it installs them in your ram - so you can check out how things work without affecting your normal system at all12:25
jussi01Boinc: which printer?12:25
BoincHO Photosmart C7200 series12:26
jussi01Boinc: 1 moment please12:27
Boincthanks for your help :)12:27
inukahello, i have a partition on my hard drive that's not used by my kubuntu installation (it just stores random stuff), is there a way that i can set this to auto mount when kde starts?12:27
jussi01Boinc: that machine should work perfectly12:30
jussi01(the printer)12:30
Boincohh great12:30
jussi01Boinc: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_C720012:30
bazhangBoinc, have never had any probs with asus hw; have a similar mobo here; though your mileage may vary12:31
bazhangBoinc, ie no guarantees etc12:31
Boincfantastic, which just leaves my nvidia gfx cards12:32
jussi01Boinc: you can install the drivers for them on the live cd to test also12:32
jussi01Boinc: the instrctions for them you can see here:12:32
Boincyeah ive just downloaded a cd thats about 600+mb, is that the live cd?12:32
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:32
jussi01Boinc: whats it called?12:32
jussi01yes, thats the live cd12:33
Boincgreat, thanks12:33
jussi01Boinc: so pop over, load the cd and have a play12:33
jussi01Boinc: just remember - live cd performance... well I dont need to say it do i?12:33
Boincwil be slow cos its running off a cd?12:34
jussi01yes, of course :)12:34
bazhangBoinc, of course the livecd will be slower12:34
Boincohh i have 1 more question if you dont mind.....12:35
jussi01go ahead!12:35
Boinci run a website with a live help system called phplive. This requires something to be installed on my persoanl system to interact with the website for the support requests. This requires MS framework 1.1 to be installed on my system. Is there anyway around getting this to work on linux?12:36
jussi01hrm... /me doesnt know the answer to that one...12:36
Boincis the only way to install an .exe file to install wine?12:37
jussi01Boinc: is it something I can login to to test from here?12:38
Boincgot an email address?12:39
yaccBoinc, no, you can also install Windows as such in a VM (vmware, VirtualBox, ...)12:43
Boincyeah but i dont want to run a VM perminatly12:44
inukais there a gui application that works in KDE 4.1 for mounting external drives and setting auto mount properties?12:46
inukai was using kwikdisk before but it doesn't work since i upgraded my kde12:47
jussi01inuka: try asking in #kubuntu-kde412:48
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beafhi together13:05
beafi have a question13:06
beafdoes anybody have see in his netstat -t sth like this wih kubuntu13:06
tchoughhi guys... i just did security updates and after a reboot, any account i graphically log in to is immediately logged out.  only console logins work13:10
tchoughany ideas?13:10
tchoughis there any sort of kde log that could tell me why it's borked up? the kdm log gives absolutely no clue except that it's not an xorg issue13:10
simihi, my alt+ta is not working normaly(it swittches application in  a ring and it do not gibe me back the previous application i used if i have more then 2 windows open)13:13
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xv3_googd morning all13:15
xv3_my audio it's not working! how can i set up it?13:16
jussi01xv3_: what is your audio hardware?13:16
Sir_CorgiCan someone please help me?  I ran gnome-settings-daemon in the terminal in order to have my GTK apps take on the look of my GTK theme in GNOME.  But it turned out ugly and I want to undo it.  I don't know how.13:17
jussi01Sir_Corgi: tried killing gnome-settings-daemon?13:18
Sir_CorgiLet me try that.13:18
Sir_CorgiThank you.13:18
Sir_CorgiIt worked.13:18
xv3_i buy a lap top13:18
Sir_CorgiSorry.  I'm just having trouble making my GTK apps use the Domino style.13:18
xv3_and my hardware it's intel i think, because my video bord it is13:19
jussi01!info gtk-qt-engine13:19
ubottugtk-qt-engine (source: gtk-qt-engine): theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.8-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 100 kB, installed size 476 kB13:19
jussi01!intelhda | xv3_13:19
ubottuxv3_: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto13:19
jussi01Sir_Corgi: install the above mentioned package13:20
xv3_thank you13:20
Sir_Corgijussi01: I already have it installed.13:20
Sir_CorgiI set it to use my KDE theme in GTK apps, but for some reason it doesn't want to display Domino correctly.13:21
Sir_CorgiThe buttons look like Domino buttons but have an odd-looking brown rectangle behind them.13:21
Sir_CorgiScreenshot: http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/SpecKtacle/screenshot11-1.png13:22
jussi01try installing the scrollbar fix... maybe might help...13:23
Sir_CorgiDidn't work.13:24
jussi01Sir_Corgi: Im sorry, I have no answer top that13:25
Sir_CorgiThat's okay.13:25
Sir_CorgiYou at least helped me with the first problem.13:25
Sir_CorgiThey need to develop a more Qt-friendly Firefox.13:26
xv3_maybe it's already installed13:26
jussi01Sir_Corgi: I cant wait for arora to get mature13:26
xv3_doesn't have a comand to set up it?13:27
Sir_CorgiWhat's arora?13:27
* jussi01 reminds Sir_Corgi of this wonderful invention called google :D13:27
* Sir_Corgi glares at jussi01, squinting in disdain.13:28
illusivecould anyone recommend a better movie player than totem? :)13:31
illusiveI feel dumb now13:32
illusivereally must be sunday - i'm not properly braining :P13:32
Sir_CorgiI wasn't trying to make you feel dumb. lol13:32
Sir_CorgiNo problem.13:32
illusiveany idea how I can make an alias for sudo ?13:32
illusiveit would be nice to write "Domo apt-get install" :P13:34
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KRFillusive, alias Domo='sudo'13:45
illusivethanks :)13:46
illusiveawesome :P13:46
drifanyone has knowledge why livecd doesn't work on Asus P5Q-E?13:47
ubuntu__Hi all13:55
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senorpedro!help java14:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about help java14:09
senorpedro! java14:09
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper14:09
senorpedro! java 64bit14:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about java 64bit14:09
senorpedro! java amd6414:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about java amd6414:09
senorpedro! java firefox14:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about java firefox14:10
senorpedro! java plugin14:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about java plugin14:11
senorpedrodoes anybody know how to get the firefox java plugin to work under 8.04 amd64?14:11
jussi01!java64 | senorpedro14:14
ubottusenorpedro: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava14:14
filo1234hi to all i have an eeepc 900 with kubuntu hardy, the info on battery status are wrong, say me wich remaing 10 hours ...now :)14:19
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Nix3rkde4 remix is VERY buggy.. am i right? or am i the only one is having  troubles?14:56
JucatoNix3r: #kubuntuy-kde4 please (and you kinda have to be bit more specific as to how it's buggy :)14:59
Nix3rnone responisve15:00
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darcyflaccid: do you know why when I try to print in LaCie application for Lightscribe that I get an error message "printing requires root privileges"?15:15
darcyflaccid: I've tried researching and reading but I can't seem to find a fix.15:16
h2ioi, how can i get spanish characters in kubuntu?15:17
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sourcemakershould i install -dev and -dbg files?15:35
Dragnslcrsourcemaker- do you need to?15:38
sourcemakerDragnslcr: I am not sure... this files are only required for debugging? so i do not need.. right?15:39
DragnslcrWhat makes you think you need them?15:39
sourcemakerDragnslcr: to receive more informations why a application crashs :-) for example amarok *g*15:40
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DragnslcrIf you know how to use the debugger, go for it. Otherwise you might want to wait for instructions from someone from the Amarok dev team15:42
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Mokollhi, dies anyone know, how i can get my 4 virtual workspaces to work? i just have 2, and it wont apply if i change it to four15:49
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TomikaVan itt magyarul beszélõ?16:01
TomikaCan anyone speak Hungarian?16:02
TomikaCan anyone speak Hungarian?16:03
drmarwathow to set my HP Laserjet 1018 printer on kubuntu?16:03
Tomikasorry I can't help you.16:04
drmarwatthe system settings shows the printer already but it seems not to work still16:04
drmarwatdo i need the firmware for it?16:04
TomikaHave you seen detailed settings?16:05
noaXesshi all16:05
noaXessi have dd'ed my 160gb hd to a 200gb hd.. no i have a free part of 40gb..16:05
noaXessi want no add this free 40gb to my first partition /dev/sda116:05
Tomikaedit the fstab file16:06
noaXesson /dev/sda2 is the extended partition with /dev/sda5 for swap (6gb)16:06
Jucato!ru | toshatosha16:08
ubottutoshatosha: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:08
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noaXesscan i unmount my linux swap partition to move it to the end of my hd?16:11
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donsdlDoes anyone here know what -:0 in the list of processes is?16:14
geir_Yes as long as you (your maschine) dont need it.16:15
geir_Why move it to the end???16:15
jeismahow do i get my min/max/close buttons/toolbar back on my openoffice programs?16:17
donsdljeisma: I just went through that on my system.  I'm not sure if I remember enough to be much help, but...16:19
jasonagowhat could be the major advantage of kubuntu over ubuntu?16:20
donsdlGo to System Settings:Appearance:Window Decorations:16:20
jeismadonsdl its just my open office programs not showing their titlebars16:21
jeismadonsdl ;(16:21
jeismaoops, i meant sad face16:21
donsdljeisma: Have you looked at a KDE window, like Firefox?16:22
donsdljeisma: If firefox is okay, must be a setting in OpenOffice (which I do not use).  Sorry, I cannot help beyond that.16:24
jeismadonsdl thanks anyway16:24
egleHello is here onlx english support or german too?16:26
Jucato!de | egle16:27
ubottuegle: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de16:27
egleubottu: Thans for information so i can leave this ;)16:28
ubottuegle: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:28
emilsedgh!de | egle16:28
ubottuegle: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de16:28
emilsedghhey Jucato :)16:29
Jucatoemilsedgh: echo? :)16:29
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ronr_laptophi, I'm trying to get sound to work on my kubuntu laptop, it works but the volume is extremely low and if I put in earphones i don't hear anything16:50
maltedikronr_laptop: fire up "alsamixer" from konsole. the first entries are the most important, yank up pcm and master16:54
ronr_laptopmaltedik: that helps a bit, but the headphone still doesn't work (I see a headphone entry in alsamixer but I can't increase it)16:56
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maltedikthen try starting "kmix" from alt+f2. there is a tab with options. maybe one of those will help16:57
\bin\tclshexists some way to force to kubuntu tu use more swap instead use so much memory?16:58
maltedikbtw: what application are you playing the soudn with, ronr_laptop? maybe it has a seperate vol-control, like amarok e.g.16:58
KRF\bin\tclsh, whats the benefit? slower programs?16:58
\bin\tclshnot really, i just have all memory used and swap just unused16:59
ronr_laptopmaltedik: kaffeinne, it's set to max. sound; the boxes in the laptop just aren't that loud, that's why I want to use headphones16:59
Jucato!ram | \bin\tclsh17:00
ubottu\bin\tclsh: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html17:00
ronr_laptop\bin\tclsh: that's a good thing17:00
Jucato\bin\tclsh: that's actually the point of RAM17:00
JucatoRAM/memory is lots faster than swap. swap (or as Windows calls it, virtual memory) should only be used as backup when RAM *really* runs out of space17:01
psycoAnyone know how to change this part of kopete http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5822/kopeteqg5.jpg  to a darker colour?17:01
\bin\tclshso swap is only for emergency use17:01
Jucato\bin\tclsh: sort of. see the first link for more info17:02
PiciThe Linux kernel will determine what should be using swap and what should be using RAM17:02
\bin\tclshok thanks17:02
maltedikronr_laptop: hm. at that point my unlimited knowledge seems to be not that unlimited anymore :( ;)17:02
ronr_laptopmaltedik: it amazes me too, the jack output on the laptop should just take over from the internal boxes right, no drivers or anything needed for such an output17:04
elgokuloronr_laptop, often the output is muted. but you should see it quite quickly with i.e. kmix or alsamixer17:05
ronr_laptopelgokulo: the kmix (and alsamix) do show the headphones, not muted, but the volume slider just isn't there17:07
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ronr_laptopI suspect kubuntu think I got something like 5.1 sound and has the outputs confused17:12
neptumВау ахринеть я в ирц =)17:14
Pici!ru | neptum17:15
ubottuneptum: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:15
guillermohola a todos17:20
stevenyhello friendly people...my poor mp3 player is lost in a blackhole :( it worked great with 7.10...but now with 8.04 it is gone http://pastebin.com/m886542517:26
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bradhexRunning kubuntu 8.0.4, need help with this error when running apt-get -f install: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):17:29
psycholichello all i have a problem i cant get my sound card to work and i think its because it need to be swiched to digital17:31
psycholicanyone know how to swich it to digital out put17:32
psycholici have a audigy 2 zs17:32
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »17:33
guillermoALGUIEN SABE ESPAÑOL¿?17:34
Pici!es | guillermo17:34
ubottuguillermo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:34
editingehm i have deleted my files and now to recover them?17:35
psycholicwesley is that for me?17:35
wesleyno for myself17:35
wesleyits a command then the bot gives me the fix17:35
psycholicahh that sounds cool17:36
psycholicis there a room to chat about hardware on this server?17:37
Jucatopsycholic: ##hardware maybe?17:38
psycholici'll give that a go thanks17:38
psycholichot damn you where right thanks Jucato17:39
bradhexwesley: I wouldn't say that apt-get is locked, it's more like a package failure with libc6 and i can't resolve it17:42
wesleydid i say anything about it i just know how to fix it17:44
bradhexi was just trying to be more specific about the issue17:44
augustobom tarde. alguém pode dizer se o konsole suporta conversa em aúdio?17:53
Jsn0327After trying to return my laptop from standby mode, after grub, all i get is the blank screen.  I know that it has at least started to initalize ubuntu because my wifi light is blinking which means that the driver was loaded.  I've had this problem before but it was a while back and I can't remember what I did to fix it.  I think that I had to do something through recovery mode.  I am running gusty.  Can someone please help me out?17:53
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psycholichow do i start the alsa confige menu in term?17:58
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GWillakerspsycholic: do a "apropos alsa" and see if anything there will work for you.18:01
psycholicok i see the problem my onboard sound card is the one thats active18:03
psycholichow can i change that18:03
psycholicahh aconnect18:04
Assurbanipalhey guys, can someone help me through installing oxygen openoffice?18:04
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Assurbanipalhey guys, can someone help me through installing oxygen openoffice?18:12
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Dr_willisNever heard of Oxygen Openoffice...18:15
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rhubarbheya, not the specific place to ask, but I figured someone here would know: its been a long time since I built a PC, what should I buy these days. Or is there a channel for this18:24
jussi01rhubarb: youd probably get a better response fron #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic18:25
rhubarbah kk18:26
Dr_willisYou meaning 'buy' vs 'build your own' ?18:26
rhubarbno build...18:26
rhubarbunless buy is cheaper these days?18:27
rhubarbI'll be in offtopic ubuntu18:27
Dr_willisBuy will proberly be cheaper. (it always has been basicially) but wigh building your own- you get exactly what you want.18:27
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Dr_willisThere are getting to be many sites that sell preinstalled ubuntu systems also. :) worth checking out.18:30
donsdlAnyone know of a write-up on how I can change the colors of the ls command?18:38
jonathan__okay this one should be simple: Try and load warsow but wine trys to load it up instead18:39
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jonathan__its the warsow i386 file18:40
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robignoj amici18:42
Maskahello there, did someone noticed or reported the Kubuntu.org RSS feed issue? (or it just has been canceled or something?) thank you.18:44
pooplumbpieive been stupid and zoomed in with my mouse18:47
pooplumbpiehow do i zoom out?18:47
pooplumbpiecmon help how do i zoom out18:48
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pooplumbpiehow do i zoom out my desktop is all huge :(18:52
pooplumbpiei did it by accident18:52
Maskayou zoom using what?18:52
Maskai mean, what app...18:53
pooplumbpiemouse and rested my hand on my keyboard then suddenly everything super sized18:53
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pooplumbpieno app just the entire desktop18:53
Maskayou mean the screen display or an Magnify effect like Compiz?18:54
pooplumbpiemagnify effect18:54
Maskaok, so i just want to know, with what programme you do that?18:55
Picipooplumbpie: Try holding down the super key (the windows key) and scrolling your mouse wheel18:56
pooplumbpiecould be compiz18:57
Squallcomo estan?18:57
Pici!es | Squall18:57
ubottuSquall: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:57
pooplumbpieah crap the windows key isnt zooming out18:57
vitojejopici #kubuntu-es18:57
Tiaguinho_20It have portuguese?18:57
pooplumbpiei have no idea how my desktop is doing this18:58
PiciTiaguinho_20: no, #ubuntu-br or #ubuntu-pt does though18:58
pooplumbpieah nevermind ill be back in a hour anyways18:58
pooplumbpiethanks anyway18:58
DownixHello everyone19:01
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DownixI just tried a Kubuntu + KDE4 install on a Xeon and it's just not working right.  Can't get it to run WINE for anything19:02
Downixvery odd as I have the normal Kubuntu on my other machine19:03
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Calidahi there, as i am not sure how this works here i am just going to pop my question. I have problems with my raid on my kubuntu machine, and i would need help if anyone is able to help me with it ;)19:12
simulawhat file do i modify to permanently add a path to my include paths?19:14
drmarwatanybody used Remastersys Backup on kubuntu?19:18
Downixit is sad when it looks as if the kubuntu w/ KDE4 is broken19:24
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Calidaanyone who can help me with raids problems?19:30
DownixI'm in much the same boat, so no help19:30
ciaconhi folks - is it possible to install kubuntu on a g4 iBook and what 'hardware-difficulties' should / may I expect?19:30
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ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:38
fabien__ki est partan pour une lan sur urban terror?19:38
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr19:39
krayHi. I'm having trouble with resume on my x61t. I just see a blank screen with a text cursor.19:40
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ciaconhi folks - where can I find kubuntu for ppc??19:50
geniiciacon: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/8.04/release/19:52
geniiciacon: Thats the Ubuntu release but you can install the kde desktop with kubuntu-desktop19:52
ciacongenii: thanks =)19:52
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geniiciacon: np19:53
krayHi. I'm having trouble with resume on my x61t. I just see a blank screen with a text cursor after resuming. I can change virtual terminals but not type anything.20:06
bbeckjoin #kde420:12
geniikray: Perhaps see http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_X61 section regarding suspend/resume fix20:14
raaviHow to set the cpufreq-selector always to performance?20:15
evan__hello, how can i prevent raptormenu from autostarting at login?20:16
aakashHello all! Is there a reason why Shell (Konsole) starts on boot?20:22
k350is there any way I cna remove all kde related things form my machine with apt?20:23
genii!puregnome | k35020:23
ubottuk350: If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>20:23
aakashI love how eeveryone knows all these commands, like !xxx20:23
geniiaakash: Likely because you have session saving on where Konsole has been running. So it loads every time20:23
k350ubottu: thanks a lot!:)20:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks a lot!:)20:24
geniik350: You're welsome20:24
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aakashlol, ok thanks genil20:24
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geniiaakash: np20:25
bopfermanHow do you disable session saving?20:25
geniiSystem Settings...Advanced tab... Session Manager20:26
geniibopferman: You're welcome20:27
pulaskiHi, I'm trying to --purge a deb package I just installed and using the name "bjfiltercups-2.4-1.i386.deb" but I got the following error: "dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in" does anyone know what name I should use?20:28
geniipulaski: To find the name to use, perhaps search the apt database like: apt-cache search bjfiltercups                      then use the name which seems most appropriate in the remove/purge command20:30
pulaskigenii: Thanks for responding, I'll try it.20:31
geniipulaski: Likely the name is just bjfiltercups20:31
pulaskigenii: Bingo! Thanks a lot20:33
pulaskigenii: gotta go, my friend.20:34
geniipulaski: Have fun20:34
lisaAaHi guys, I'm at the end of beta test for my website and looking for feedback from internet savvy people. mind if I post url please?20:42
crimsunkubuntu-offtopic and/or ubuntu-offtopic may be more appropriate20:42
darcydoes anyone know why when I try to print in LaCie Lightscribe softwarein GUI I get an error message "printing requires root privileges"?20:43
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darcyAnyone use Wine before?20:45
darcyI'm tyring to use a program that I installed and it has all the background as black and I can't see the text. Any ideas.20:45
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darcydoes anyone know why when I try to print in LaCie Lightscribe software I get an error message "printing requires root privileges"?20:55
Dragnslcrdarcy- probably because you didn't run it with kdesu20:59
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dave11great...kopete wont shut down21:17
grahamhey any1 using kde 4.1? I got a problem with sound :( i got sound for notifications but VLC and amarok play nothing21:21
aakashusin KDE4, and i also have a problem with sound :(21:22
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MrKennie_graham: checked the mixer?21:25
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mado-kahallo leute ... koennt ihr mir weiterhelfen? ... ich wuerde gerne meine aufloesung aendern aber es klappt nicht21:26
mado-kader computer hat eine "geforce 9500"21:26
MrKennie_graham: I got unusual controls for my hardware in kmix under kde4.1, trial and error got that working properly.21:27
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:27
wesleysieg nach der deutsche hilfe21:27
mado-kasorry wesley :)21:27
wesley#kubuntu-de ?21:27
wesleythats for dictators21:28
mado-kawesley: my problem is ...21:29
mado-kai can't change the screen-resolution ... and i don't know why21:29
sourcemakeris there a software to check the system availability of 5 systems... offline/online... ?21:29
mado-kathere is nothing to download in the restricted-driver-section21:29
mado-kathe computer has a geforce 950021:29
mado-kacan you help me? wesley?21:30
Dr_willissourcemaker,  clarify that problem a bit more.  - You basicially want to see if 5 different machines are up or down?21:30
terran4000Hey, does anyone know how to enable multi-key mode for keyboard shortcuts in kde4?21:30
MrKennie_mado-ka: tried apt-get install nvidia-glx-new ?21:30
Dr_willissourcemaker,  or specific services on those machines. :)21:30
krayHi. I'm having trouble with resume on my x61t in kubuntu. I just see a blank screen with a text cursor after resuming. I can change virtual terminals but not type anything.21:30
MrKennie_mado-ka: although the restricted driver tool should manage that for you.21:30
mado-kaMrKennie_: ... not yet ... i'm a beginner with linux so i don't know what to do :) ... i will try that now MrKennie_21:31
mado-kathe tool you said didn't show me anything21:31
aakashkray: is that after rebooting21:31
sourcemakerDr_willis: I have a about 10 linux servers and I whould like to now... if all systems are running correctly... like a simple html report on a central monitoring system...21:31
MrKennie_mado-ka: hm21:31
mado-kai install nvidia-glx-new now21:31
krayAfter rebooting? No after suspending to ram.21:32
mado-kaand see if something changes21:32
mado-kado i have to reboot the computer after the installation?21:32
aakashtry logging out, mado-ka21:32
Dr_willissourcemaker,  ive used 'sing' (a enhanced ping) to do some scripting that went dowmn the list and told me what machines were up.down. there are heartbeat monitors. I recall also to see if machines are up.21:32
aakashkray: so all you see is a blank screen?21:32
mado-kaok aakash. ... i'll be back21:32
MrKennie_yes, but you will have to configure xorg.conf yourself iirc21:32
sourcemakerDr_willis: ok21:32
krayAt first it displays a text cursor.21:32
Dr_willissourcemaker,  theres some other packages  in the package manager that maybe better suited to your needs also.21:32
mado-kai will log out and come here again21:32
krayThen I can switch virtual terminals. If I switch to the terminal 7 I see a blank screen and cant do anything at all after that.21:33
Dr_willistkping - Perl/Tk app. - Monitor hosts on network21:34
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mado-kaaakash ... i'm back ...21:35
mado-kait didn't help21:35
aakashmado-ka : what did you install?21:35
aakashkray: give me a minute to think21:35
mado-kai still can't change the screen-resolution21:35
aakashmado-ka: how are you trying to change the resolution?21:35
mado-kasystem -> settings -> screen-resolution21:36
aakashand it doesnt let you? or you do it but no change21:36
mado-kano ... thing is ... when i do the thing i told you and look in the pop-up-menu ... there isn't an entry with e.g. "1024 x 768"21:37
mado-kasorry ... not pop-up ... drop-down i mean!21:37
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mado-kado i have to edit a specific file?21:38
aakashWhat are you running? KDE4?21:38
mado-kagnome :)21:38
aakashNot that I know of, you may want to ask Doc here21:38
aakashI see21:39
aakashSo what are you running on right now? (the resoluition)21:39
aakashWow, lol okay21:40
mado-kaerm -> 800 x 600 aakash21:40
aakashAh k21:40
mado-kabut i need at least 1024 x 76821:40
LynoureSuddenly (after upgrades) my FF3 started giving Assertion Failed on search strings and opening an empty window when I want to bookmark tabs :(21:41
krayI've read about people having a totally blank screen with no backligh on my model after resuming but can't seem to find any information about my particular problem.21:41
compilerwriterLadies and Gents I am trying to try out Kubuntu on an Acer 4520 Laptop.  I am having trouble getting into the boot menu to get the machine to boot from its disk drive though.  Any suggestions?21:41
compilerwriters/disk drive/dvd-rom21:42
darcydoes anyone know why when I try to print in LaCie Lightscribe softwarein GUI I get an error message "printing requires root privileges"?21:43
aakashcompilerwriter: you need to change the BIOS settings on the ACER21:43
aakashtoo boot from CD21:43
aakashmado - try updating the system21:43
compilerwriteraakash I know that but am having trouble getting to the bios.21:43
aakashmado: sudo apt-get pudate21:43
darcy I'm tyring to use a program that I installed through Wine and it has all the background as black and I can't see the text. Any ideas.21:43
aakashcompilerwrite: what's the problem? is it password protected or you can't access it in general21:43
mado-kaalready did aakash21:44
aakashmado-ka: if you see Dr_willis around, ask him -- i'm sure he'll find a solution21:44
aakashmado-ka: sorry :(21:44
mado-kaok aakash21:44
mado-kawhere is this Dr_willis now?21:45
aakashHe was here a few minutes ago21:45
darcyDr_willis: any ideas on my question21:46
mado-kauhuu ... well then ... i'll wait21:46
mado-kait looks like he is helping darcy21:46
sourcemakeris strigi already included in kde4?21:47
Dr_willisbusy atm sorry21:48
mado-kaDr_willis: i will wait21:48
jparishy-Hey, installed kubuntu on my external hdd, that is connected to my computer via usb, and for some reason, I guess I did something wrong, when I start my computer without the external hdd plugged in, I can't start up windows that's on the actual HardDrive in the computer. The grub screen comes up and fails with error 2121:53
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CrocoJethi all ! How I can set firefox to start in full screen in kubuntu 8.04 ?22:03
CrocoJetmy resolution is 1280x102422:03
compilerwriteraakash I figured out how to get to the bios finally.  Now how do I configure the blasted wireless connection for internet?22:06
dwidmann_laptopI'm running amarok via ssh (using laptop to run it on my desktop .... kind of like a remote control :) ), but now the collection disappeared, and I can't re-add - as i'm getting some sort of "cannot talk to klauncher" error22:07
Mikeb4Ubuntu is telling me I ran out of space, but a lot of my device is not being used...any answers?22:10
dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: what does "df -h" output?22:11
Mikeb4Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on22:12
Mikeb4                       13G   13G   54M 100% /22:12
Mikeb4varrun                505M  128K  505M   1% /var/run22:12
Mikeb4varlock               505M     0  505M   0% /var/lock22:12
Mikeb4udev                  505M   36K  505M   1% /dev22:12
Mikeb4devshm                505M   84K  505M   1% /dev/shm22:12
Mikeb4overflow              1.0M   56K  968K   6% /tmp22:12
Mikeb4gvfs-fuse-daemon       13G   13G   54M 100% /home/mike/.gvfs22:12
Mikeb4tmpfs                 505M   39M  467M   8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile22:12
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)22:12
dwidmann_laptop(for future reference)22:12
Mikeb4sorry im new22:12
sbatteyMy synaptics touch pad does not work after a suspend to ram, in ubuntu hardy22:13
psycoAnyone know how to change the colour of the kopete message window. http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5822/kopeteqg5.jpg22:13
dwidmann_laptopLooks like your one partition (/host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk) is definitely full, looks like the gvfs thing is full also.22:13
dwidmann_laptopTry emptying the trash?22:13
Mikeb4but its not using all of my 75 gigs22:14
Mikeb4anyway to have it access the whole drive?22:14
dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: looks to me like you have a 13G root partition, and that's the one that is full22:15
dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: try "sudo apt-get autoclean" and that should free up a fair amount of space22:15
dwidmann_laptopIt'll delete cached package files that aren't being used anymore.22:16
Mikeb4it did gimme a bit of space...guess ill just have to start some deleting...thanks tho22:17
dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: after that, install the package "filelight" and use it to see where the disk space hog is.22:17
sbatteyMy synaptics touch pad does not work after a suspend to ram, in ubuntu hardy22:18
jparishyHey, sorry I left so abruptly, if anyone did say anything, I'd appreciate it if you repeat it22:19
oobejparishy, i said somthing22:21
dwidmann_laptop!repeat | sbattey22:21
ubottusbattey: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience22:21
oobewait no i didnt22:21
jparishydwidmann_laptop: I restarted and I wasn't sure if someone had said something and I missed it, I didn't re-ask my question...22:22
oobe!paymore-attention-b4-you-jump-to-conclusions dwidmann_laptop22:23
ubottuoobe: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:23
dwidmann_laptopjparishy: that wasn't directed at you22:24
jparishyoobe: no need to be a jerk about it22:24
jparishydwidmann_laptop: I guess that clears it up :P Sorry22:24
Mikeb4dwidmann_laptop: Thanks the program is neat. What is root.disk & swap.disk? They seem to take up a lot of space. I figure that they are Ubuntu essentials, but is 15GB of space normal?22:25
CrocoJetI made install firefox 3, and I would like that firefox start in full screen, is this possible ?22:26
dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: using 15 GB for root is probably abnormalish22:27
aakashCrocojet: Before you close Firefox, hit F11 (full screen)22:27
CrocoJetoh ok let me test22:27
CrocoJetaakash: thank you !22:28
dwidmann_laptopI'm using 10G myself Mikeb422:28
aakashNo problem22:28
Mikeb4dwidmann_laptop: So would you say I'd need to worry about this?22:29
dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: swap is usually a seperate partition, if you come from the windows world they call it "virtual memory" there, it's where things go when you run out of room in real memory.22:29
dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: being all the way out is probably not good I'd say.22:29
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dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: if you click on the partition in question in filelight, it will give you a folder-by-folder breakdown of where the files that take up a lot of space are located, where is it being used up at?22:31
dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: if you're unfortunate such that it's /usr, you'd only be able to fix by enlarging the partition (unlikely doable), or removing programs you don't use.22:32
Mikeb4dwidmann_laptop: Well I do have Windows and Ubuntu running on my laptop. I usually use Ubuntu for everything, and switch to Windows when necessary. But I notice that on Windows i have so much space, and on Ubuntu i was cut short.22:33
aakashAnyone know of CS3 for Kubuntu?22:34
dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: care to !pastebin (see the channel topic for a link) the output of this command?  sudo parted  /dev/sda print22:35
Mikeb4i can't find !postbin =-(22:43
Mikeb4Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB22:43
Mikeb4Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B22:43
Mikeb4Partition Table: msdos22:43
Mikeb4Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags22:43
Mikeb4 1      32.3kB  78.5GB  78.5GB  primary  ntfs         boot22:43
Mikeb4Information: Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary.22:43
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:43
Mikeb4Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos  Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags  1      32.3kB  78.5GB  78.5GB  primary  ntfs         boot   Information: Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary.22:44
Mikeb4like that?22:44
dave11follow the link above22:44
Mikeb4like that?22:45
Mikeb4dwidmann_laptop:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/27141/plain/22:47
EnMasse187guys i just wanna say one thing22:47
EnMasse187penismonkey, that is all...22:47
dave11feel better?22:48
EnMasse187yes much better22:48
CrocoJetwhat is it ?22:48
EnMasse187i just had to get that off my chest22:48
EnMasse187i got mad22:48
EnMasse187because linux can't run my favorite apps22:48
EnMasse187i do music22:48
CrocoJetmad is not magazine mande in USA ?22:48
EnMasse187and it can't run reason, cubase, or SONAR!22:48
CrocoJetmande = made22:48
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines22:48
EnMasse187i know stfu ubottu22:49
EnMasse187dave11: can i say it again?22:49
EnMasse187getting  mad again22:49
CrocoJetEnMasse187: thing more crazy22:49
dave11i wouldnt22:49
aakashanyone having issues with Wine? I can't install .exe's22:49
Dr_willis  wine /path/to/whatever/installer.exe22:50
Dr_willisand see what error messages ya get.22:50
EnMasse187yes MUCH MORE CRAZY22:50
dave11the techs dont like getting off topic22:50
EnMasse187are you guys ready to hear it?22:50
EnMasse187okay sorry22:50
Mikeb4the volume, play, pause... buttons on my dell laptop stopped working out of nowhere...any ideas?22:51
aakashDangit! thanks doc22:51
CrocoJetMikeb4: if your laptop came with windows ... and others stuffs ... better use22:52
Mikeb4But at first Ubuntu and those bottons were working fine...but now they dont...22:53
bucketheadJust pushed the server to Hardy LTS. Wish me luck!22:54
aakashcommand to create folder?22:58
aakashmk dir?22:58
dwidmann_laptopMikeb4: looks like a WUBI install?23:00
Nyadhi. Is there anything wrong with installing all my apps from source and removing them with make uninstall etc. can it result in one program removing vital files for another program?23:02
dave11wonder when workspot.com will be up?23:02
dave11sry for offtopic question23:03
aakashwhen using wine -- how can you make it root access? (im getting this message: Please check that your disk is not full and that you have access to the destination directory."23:04
dwidmann_laptopNyad: well, smart thing to do would be to have it put its files in /usr/local or /opt instead, so that there shouldn't be any overlap, (even though there shouldn't be overlap to begin with, but you can never be too careful)23:05
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!23:05
Nyaddwidmann_laptop: how do I tell it to do that?23:06
Mikeb4what is a WUBI install?23:06
dwidmann_laptopNyad: ./configure --prefix=/path/where/you/want/toi/install23:06
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.23:07
NyadMikeb4: pure awesome23:07
Nyaddwidmann_laptop: thanks23:08
Mikeb4is WUBI something i need to download or install?23:08
dave11wubi is a installer23:09
Nyadit comes with the CD23:09
dave11for windows systems23:09
dave11website installer23:10
PiciIts on the LiveCDs23:10
Mikeb4so wait its for windows or ubuntu?23:12
Mikeb4ok i see23:13
dave11it puts ubuntu on windows like a program23:13
dave11or other ubuntu distros23:13
NyadMikeb4: basically it allows you to install ubuntu while your in windows, well it does the basic setup and then you restart and it continues. it makes a folder called ubuntu somewhere on your ntfs filesystem which is the size you tell it to be. so you don't even need to partition your drive23:14
Mikeb4yeah i think that's how i installed ubuntu23:14
rodolinuxhi guys,23:15
rodolinuxI needed help with something23:15
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)23:15
rodolinuxthis stupid Hardware Drivers keeps popping up23:16
rodolinuxwith the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver in it, enabled is checked and Status is in use23:16
rodolinuxis there any way to make it stop popping up23:16
grahamany1 here no how to fix sound issues on kde 4.1?23:18
Nyadis kde 4.1 out!!!????23:18
rodolinuxso, can anyone help me with this retarded Hardware drivers popup thing23:19
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines23:19
rodolinuxi am just asking23:19
dave11instant gratification is a bit slow here..:)23:20
rodolinux:P , sorry there, I didnt mean to be pushy23:20
darcyDr_willis: sorry I was away for a bit there. would that help to explain why the background is black?23:20
j978is there a way to do an "apt-get downgrade"?, i just removed the kde4.1 beta repository (ppa.launchpad.net) and would like to roll back the upgrade23:22
dave11sometimes you get your questions answered..sometimes you don't.. it took me awhile to figure that out23:23
rodolinux:P I have been looking on google for ages and I couldnt find an answer.. but now it stopped lol23:24
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craighey all23:24
rodolinuxit was just trying to drive me crazy a little bit23:24
dave11i understand..we all go through it at first23:24
rodolinuxalright, well... if anyone needs any help... I am ready for the task now :)23:26
Nyadrodolinux: it stops asking you after a while.23:27
Nyadmine went away like that23:28
rodolinuxI know, it stopped now, after I started pulling my hairs out!!!23:28
dave11patience and persistence pays off... asking at different times of the day and night works also23:28
rodolinuxit was driving me crazy23:28
rodolinuxbut i am learning to calm down23:29
Nyadanyone else notice the irony that just occured?23:29
Nyadbtw does anyone know how to make middle click stop pasting from the clipboard? I have an unbreakable habit to keep pressing it and it bugs me that it pastes things coz I sometimes accidentally past it on irc23:32
opsi_disable your middle click :-)23:34
NyadI need it for some things23:35
Nyadjust that in text boxes it pastes23:35
apacheloggerdon't press it unless you need it23:35
opsi_yes it was just a good (funny) answer of your question23:35
opsi_another good answer too :-D23:35
apacheloggerwell, that is either a bad habbit you should change or a bad mouse, which should be changed as well23:40
AndrewMohawkwhat dnsd is recommended for kubuntu?23:41
apacheloggerhey AndrewMohawk23:41
apacheloggerglad you stopped by23:41
DragnslcrAndrewMohawk- I assume you mean DNS server? Probably bind23:44
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)23:48
ubottuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview23:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cd23:51
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AndrewMohawkDragnslcr: thanks, i used pdns23:56
bomberI am trying to get grub back as my bootloader after a bimonthly xp install23:56
bomberand im not having any luck23:56
bomberits an sata drive23:57
bomberim running the live cd right now23:58
bomberthe instructions seem to be to run "grub" then do "find /boot/grub/stage1"23:58
bomberthen do "root hd0" or whatever the find line returns23:59

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