=== sea is now known as sea4ever [00:16] hello [00:17] ok why is there no icon to install this OS? i booted into the special graphics [00:17] cause i have a VIA [00:17] whats the script to install it [00:18] anyone please [00:18] 0o [00:18] it is gutsy 7.10 [00:18] i need it for llinuxmce [00:21] should be an icon on the desktop called 'install' [00:22] there should be an icon from the LIve CD -- Named: Install [00:22] Beat me, :( [00:22] 8.04 is the latest. - but I dont use Linuxmce. Id hope that Linuxmce has updated to support 8.04 === aakash_ is now known as smarty [00:22] dr_Willis: not there [00:22] dr_Willis: can mi run it from the termainl [00:22] look under the couch. :) [00:22] doe you know the name of the script [00:22] I normally install with the alternative installer cd. [00:22] you should be able to install without having to need to use the Live CD [00:22] *Live portion [00:23] how [00:23] when you boot [00:23] what options to you have [00:23] install / specail graphics [00:23] hi guys, please can someone help me with updating my kde (4.0.3) version? [00:23] and some other options [00:23] but nothing about installing from command line like gentoo [00:24] i know ubuntu has a script [00:24] hmm [00:24] doesnt kubuntu have one [00:24] 0o [00:24] im not sure now [00:24] i see the icon on youtube [00:24] but i dont have one [00:24] one my desktop [00:24] on [00:24] did you burn the CD yourself? [00:25] it took 45 mins to bot [00:25] boot [00:25] i did [00:25] try installing another ISO image [00:25] i burned two [00:25] hmm [00:25] there were no errors [00:25] i wanted to get linuxmce to install [00:26] there are no packages in gentoo for that m [00:26] or arch [00:26] those are what i use normally [00:26] so no clue? [00:26] not from what I can see [00:27] Im looking it up though [00:27] ok [00:27] ty [00:27] Np [00:29] can someone tell me what to do, for update kde? [00:30] smarty: ubiquity is what they said in #ubuntu [00:30] smarty: might there be a kubiquity [00:30] or is it still ubiquity [00:32] ubiquity-frontend-kde [00:33] crimsun: ok [00:36] no one? :( [00:37] BenPa85: for 8.04? [00:38] BenPa85: sure [00:38] BenPa85: apt-get [00:38] http://www.kubuntu.org/node/29 [00:39] you ren zai bu? [00:40] shu ru fa ze me ann zhuang? === BARBEESHA is now known as EnMasse187 [00:40] xiaobo: ubuntu-zh === freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t] === kikevm is now known as ENRIQUE_32 === jesus is now known as jesus_ [00:59] hola hay alguien ahi? [00:59] crimsun: my VIA is so slow [01:00] alguien sabe como buscar mas servidores, soy nuevo aki === saint is now known as Sa[i]nT [01:01] somebody speak spanish? [01:04] richiefrich: sry, was afk, which parameters for apt-get? [01:04] ahh you can just apt-get update [01:04] my kde was broken, I've ran "apt-get install kde4" [01:04] ahh you can just apt-get upgrade [01:05] k, I'll try [01:05] there is distro-update or upgrade [01:05] im not sure [01:06] both work, but it says there is nothing to update [01:06] how can I check the kde version? [01:06] you caan with like dpkg [01:06] i forget i think dpkg -i [01:06] :\ [01:08] BenPa85: you can -> man dpkg [01:08] ah k, thx [01:08] and see what the options are [01:08] may I ask a technical question ? [01:08] how to fix my ubuntu? [01:08] 0o\ [01:08] richiefrich: I is for info [01:09] there you go [01:09] info on a package [01:09] chi: why is it going so SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW [01:09] i love VIA [01:09] can I download ubuntu then download KDE from its site, to make Kubuntu [01:09] no it is move funny [01:09] ? [01:09] richiefrich: THX :) [01:09] sure can [01:10] BenPa85: use apt-get [01:10] err [01:10] Bahaa: [01:10] is it a download program ? [01:10] Bahaa: apt-get to install kde [01:10] my ubuntu mous is no work [01:10] aha [01:11] chi: and i hear your install is sllow [01:11] slow [01:11] for plese help to fix ubuntu mouse [01:11] 0o [01:11] and how can I make ubuntu support my language [01:11] ? [01:12] /c [01:17] richiefrich: I've looked into adept-manager which tells me that installed version is 3.3 is this the actual version? [01:20] Hola [01:20] como estan?? [01:22] can someone tell me where firefox is installed from adept? [01:22] hola [01:22] hi [01:22] I'm trying to install flash-player but can't find the right directory ... [01:22] yes [01:22] j1luis: hi [01:23] BenPa85: it would seem so [01:23] firefox installed for adept [01:23] richiefrich: thx :) [01:23] ok [01:23] where installing aplications for konsole?? [01:24] ah sh** sorry guys, i've installed it without adept, now i've found :) [01:24] $ sudo apt-get install "aplication" [01:25] ubuntu_: thx [01:29] :) [01:42] hey, for some reason my vanilla Kubuntu 8.04 install doesn't have katapault [01:42] and I can't just apt-get install it [01:42] nor can I find it in Adept. Has it been removed from the standard repos? [01:43] !find katapult [01:43] Found: katapult [01:43] !info katapult [01:43] katapult (source: katapult): item launcher for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2.1-3 (hardy), package size 414 kB, installed size 3144 kB [01:43] its in main. [01:43] nevermind, [01:43] I spelled it wrong. [01:43] or rather, right [01:43] heh [01:44] thanks anyways [01:44] :) [01:44] hi [01:45] where instaling progran with konsole?? [01:45] please [01:45] !apt-get [01:45] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE) [01:45] sudo apt-get install WHATEVERYOUWANTTOINSTALL [01:45] :) [01:45] ok [01:45] ie: --> sudo apt-get install cowsay [01:46] dowunload the program? [01:46] downoad the program? [01:46] dowunload [01:46] downloading has nothing to do with it... [01:46] download [01:46] ok [01:46] the package manager will download/install the proper packages. :) [01:46] Unless you want to rephrase the question/clarify what you are trying to do. [01:48] ok [01:48] thank [01:49] and with apt-get? [01:49] What about it? [01:57] Hi [02:03] dr Willis [02:03] Howdy martijn81 [02:03] for installing limewire [02:04] j1luis, it dosent do a lot of good to just say someones name in irc. :) [02:04] !frostwire [02:04] frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire. For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire [02:04] . [02:04] use frostwire instead of limewire. [02:04] ok === root is now known as Guest10975 [02:05] ok [02:05] Since I install it? For apt-get or adept?? [02:06] For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire [02:06] I beluive its in the medibuntu repositorys also. [02:08] ok === ubuntu_ is now known as Betus [02:10] where can I found volume control on kde4? [02:23] hi, i have hardy running with a radeon 9600 + fglrx driver + xserver-xgl and video / scrolling of internetpages is kinda slow, when i try to remove xserver-xgl all i get is a white screen when i log back in to gnome... i couldn't find anything usefull on the net yet, could you guys maybe point me? [02:24] same goes for kde4 [02:44] trying to install kububtu on a toshiba satellite. Litte progress. can that be done? [02:45] hello i have installed kpowersave, but at reboot start kpowersave and other battery status icon too [02:45] how is the name of power status battery [02:46] i want only kpowersave active [02:55] Is it poissible to defragment my hd in linux? [02:56] what fs ? [02:57] and why do you think it needs it ? [02:57] * mr---t- though that was not needed inlinux [02:57] mr---t- generally it's not. [02:58] i have seen ext# fs with as high as 5% noncontiguous but that is very rare [02:59] Oh, well I have a diablo 2 error in wine and one of the solutions is to defragment [02:59] I don't think it's terribly rare === root is now known as DamienG [02:59] I have about 6% fragmentation on /, but that's in part due to carrying this over from Debian Potato [02:59] Hi [02:59] crimsun what i usually see is .3 to .5 % [03:00] I was wondering if it's okay to delete boson_crash reports from my home folder [03:00] psyco: you dont need to [03:00] Alright then. [03:00] windows is very sloppy when it saves files. it 'spits them' at the drive. its designed to speed things up [03:00] Agent_bob: I'd say somewhere between 2-3% is not unusual for installs having seen at least three Ubuntu dist-upgrades [03:00] but int he end slows it down. thats why you need to defragment [03:00] * mr---t- thats what i thought [03:01] crimsun yeah but 5 is double that ... [03:01] linux stores them properly [03:01] Anyone here played diablo and got the erro: [03:02] :Diablo 2 Unhandled Exception: Access_violation (c0000005) [03:02] hi all [03:03] im new to using kubuntu [03:03] i need some help please any one up for giving a new guy a hand? [03:04] tony_ it's the second door on the left, down the hall there... -> [03:04] tony_ i mean stop asking for help, and explain what the issue is, [03:06] you scared him [03:06] i guess so... [03:06] !ask [03:06] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [03:07] oh ok ill just ask away [03:07] im having problems with trying to connect to my wifi [03:07] !wifi [03:07] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [03:08] tony_ first visit that page and see if the answer is already spelled out for you ^ [03:08] it can find the wifi but can not connect [03:08] if not we'll see if we can find one. [03:08] i put in my wep key but it just dont want to connect [03:09] mr---t- do you think he is typing and not reading... ? [03:09] possibly [03:10] oops sorry i did not look at the screen.......my bad [03:10] :) [03:11] :-P [03:11] tony_ it's ok. and welcome to #kubuntu by the way. [03:12] thx agent_bob [03:12] its my first day using it :) [03:12] many common issues have detailed instructions on the link bob provided if that doesn't help someone will still be here [03:13] ok mr----t just reading it now :) [03:13] :-) [03:14] got firefox 3, klipper and addons don't work [03:14] wich is the name of power manager on kubuntu hardy kde 3.5?? [03:15] tony_ not trying to distract your attention, nor discurage you in any way. but, the best way to learn linux, is to forget every thing you think you know about computers and start from zero. it saves time and things make much more sense if you don't aproach them from an M$ mentality. [03:16] just a word to the wise. [03:16] wich is the name of power manager battery_status on kubuntu hardy kde 3.5?? [03:16] Agent_bob: are you on a lappy? [03:17] agent_bob i will try my best [03:18] filo1234: kpowersave? [03:19] i am on sidux so i do not know [03:19] martijn81: nope i want use kpowersave, but at reboot start default power manager too [03:19] * mr---t- doesn't use power management, on a desktop [03:19] mr---t- yes and no. why ? [03:19] did anyone install intrepid and get very small default fonts? [03:20] h [03:20] mr---t-: i have a lap_top [03:20] mr---t- i was looking for a kde app with apm or power in it's name but dont see one... [03:20] I'm desktop only so I don't know about power saving [03:20] mits i installed dapper and got very small fonts default = 8 [03:21] Agent_bob: why dapper when we have an 8.04 LTS? [03:21] martijn81 cause it was two years ago [03:21] he he [03:22] i just installed intrepid and the default general font is dejavu sans 9... but i think on hardy 9 is the default too... [03:22] changed it to 12 on intrepid to get the same size [03:23] mits hmm at least they up'd one. but that's still to small for a default. imo default fonts should be at least 11 [03:24] i generally set my fonts to 14 i can zome out if needed [03:24] Agent_bob: so maybe on my other installs the fonts look too large for their size number :D [03:25] mits that's entirely possable and would also explain why the defaults get set so low. perhaps the guy setting them had the same problem with font rendering. (displaying too large) [03:25] why is my kde missing menus in kubuntu? [03:26] di48lo kde3 or kde4 ? [03:27] probably... weird though... didn't notice something like that in any previous install (even intrepid alpha 1 i check out some days ago) [03:27] di48lo in kde3 a lot of stuff is hidden in the default kmenu you can run "kmenuedit" and dehide them. [03:29] mits heh i have literally held up a magnifying glass in fernt of the monitor to see how to initially configure things, because the deafult fonts were too small to read. no joke. [03:29] front [03:30] hehe same thing on that install :D [03:30] * mr---t- uses kmag [03:30] mr---t- but how do you find it ? [03:30] have to find it to use it... [03:31] I pnig it sonar! [03:31] ping^ [03:31] oh the ole' alt+f2 way... got it... [03:32] he he [03:37] woe! /usr/bin/klaptop_acpi_helper has a switch "--toshibalcd" [03:38] but no man page :( [03:43] what is kpm ? [03:44] k package manager (im guessing) [03:44] kde package manager (im guessing) [03:44] or power manager ? [03:44] google it man [03:44] ya [03:44] sounds good [03:44] lol [03:45] would be easier to start it than google it... [03:45] Definition: kpm: Process manager for KDE This is a process manager (top + ps and all) for KDE [03:45] who won ? [03:46] process manager [03:46] won ? [03:46] muahahah [03:46] and my net crawls at seriously low speeds [03:46] won what ? [03:46] i did [03:46] in finding out what it was [03:47] * Agent_bob wonders who won in finding out what it was... seeing that he asked cinex and cinex went to the web for him.... [03:48] hmmmmmmm [03:49] That's not cricket! [03:50] * mr---t- thinks cricket is a noisey bug at night [03:51] mr---t- :) [03:51] indeed === aakash is now known as smarty [03:53] hi - is there a a way you can adjust the startup programs [03:53] yep [03:54] in the kde enviroment or server type programs ? [03:54] kde4 [03:54] there is a directory: ~/.kde/Autostart [03:54] erm [03:54] ~/.kde4/Autostart [03:54] you can put shortcuts and scripts in there to run when you log in [03:55] it should be documented in the khelp [03:55] ok, let me check it out [03:55] one sec [03:55] thanks by the way [03:56] !autostart [03:56] To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html [03:56] Agent_bob I still can not get it working :( [03:57] tony_ ok you'll probably need to pastebin the output of "lspci -nn " and ask for help with your specific wifi card, unfortunately i'm no good with wifi / or network in general. i'm just the cli / disk and file systems guy. [03:58] can someone help tony_ with wifi please. [03:58] whats wrong with the wifi ? [03:58] i can set up wifi [03:58] !pastebin [03:58] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [03:59] cinex he said that " it can find the wifi but can not connect i put in my wep key but it just dont want to connect " [03:59] cinex: when I try to go through Konsole (cd .kde -> sudo gedit Autostart) I get the following mesasge [03:59] Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again [04:00] ~/.kde4/A [04:00] smarty don't use sudo for that, use kdesu and you probably don't have gedit use kedit or kate [04:00] kde 4 has .kde4 not .kde [04:00] smarty also you can't edit a dirrectory [04:00] that would make sense :) [04:00] tony_: must you use wep ???? [04:00] sorry, im a noob [04:00] I have never got wep to work [04:01] but it might be possible to set it up with the iwconfig command [04:01] !kdesu | smarty there are good reasons not to use sudo for gui apps [04:01] smarty there are good reasons not to use sudo for gui apps: In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [04:01] wpa2 works well easy. [04:01] in knetwork manager it shows my wifi then it asks for my wep passphrase if i type it in here nothing happens [04:02] It says command not found : kdesudo Autostart [04:02] I'm interested in installing skype. It's not in the repositories as you know. I am running Hary Heron. There is a deb on the skype web site for version 7.04. Can I still use it? [04:02] oh wait [04:02] smarty: do ls ~/.kde4/ [04:02] smarty :) [04:02] hardy* [04:02] cinex: ok [04:02] cinex he doesn't want to execute the dir either [04:03] cinex " It says command not found : kdesudo Autostart " <<< Autostart is not a command. it's a dir :) [04:03] OH [04:04] nothin in that dir [04:04] ya. u put shortcuts (like .desktop files) in it [04:04] and scripts [04:04] so they run at boot [04:04] cinex yeah its my security so no one else can access my wifi [04:04] i'll repost the link smarty. http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html [04:04] Ok [04:04] yeah but tony_ can u change the format to wpa2 ? [04:04] or is it wep only [04:05] wep is not very secure any way [04:05] tony_ -- what kind of router do you have -- i had the same issue but resolved it [04:05] it's like most "locks" it will only keep an honest person honest [04:05] is anyone going to answer my question? [04:05] You may have to change the type of key (in the kmanager) to WEP with 128 Hex or ASCII [04:05] yes but omly 64 bit [04:06] White_Pelican: sorry. go to the website [04:06] they have a linux version [04:06] no the other option is web 40/104-bit hex.......and if i try to type any thing in there it does not give me the option to connect [04:07] smarty its a belkin n1 [04:08] Q if anyone thinks they know... is it better for the battery in a lappy to keep it fully charged as much as possable, or to completely discharge / recharge it often ? [04:08] smarty is that in the knetwork manager? [04:08] depends on the type of battery [04:09] ni-cads ,nimh, li-ion [04:10] try both [04:10] WEP 40/104-bit hex and ASCII [04:10] I see, [04:10] Agent_bob: what type of battery [04:11] smarty i have tryed them both and both dont give me the option to connect [04:11] mr---t- " a laptop battery " [04:12] it will say on the battery and sometimes on the charger, ni-cad , nimh, lith-ion ect [04:12] they behave differently [04:12] without pulling the battery it says nothing. i looked before you asked. [04:13] and i was trying to find something in the manual.. but it would obviously be faster to use linux to identify the batterey [04:13] well then if it's ni-cad they develope a "memory" so it's best to kill them dead between charges... [04:15] if it's nimh not so much but they do still tend to develope a shoter life cycle if charged when not needed... [04:15] mr---t- lshw says description: Lithium Ion Battery [04:16] lithium ions battery don't develop much of a memory [04:16] so you can keep it topped off if you like. [04:16] so do they last longer one way or the other ? [04:16] ah the best (imo) option , has nearly no memory characteristics but I would still not worry about keeping it charged as they have charging circiuts to prevent over charging [04:16] * Agent_bob is more interested in total years than charge cycle timming [04:17] thats my point if they develope shorter cycles every charge they have a shorter life [04:19] all batteries have some (even a little) memory problem where as if you charge them before they are dead that becomes the new dead point [04:20] * Agent_bob doubts the integrety of that statement. think lead acid [04:20] batteries are made to be cycled , max life (imo) is to run dead or nearly so between charges === pteague_work is now known as pteague_laptop [04:21] if you tried to apply that theory to a lead acid battery you would drasticly shorten it's total life [04:21] Agent_bob: it's not real computer type memory , it's a term used in batteries as in a new remembered dead point at a shorter cycle [04:22] Agent_bob: what did you use with lshw to find out the battery type? i grep'd for description and got nothing about a battery at all [04:22] Daisuke_Laptop use with ? nothing, just lshw as root [04:22] yes but I don't think lead acid have been used in lappys [04:23]